lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dapper bridge]

Bc you sure don't lack the dps to push w4

[tacit tulip]

fwiw tab 5 is much easier to unlock than tab 4 - no soul requirements

[dapper bridge]

So i'll probably unlock tab4 and then tab5 in 3 seconds lmao

Already at moltis on some chars

[finite sparrow]

You're on for a hard reality

[tacit tulip]

like it still aint easy but comparatively it's not bad

[fast grail]

Tab 5 probably one of the easiest tab progressions vs stage of the game

[lament jasper]

Waiting for nullos to make it

[tacit tulip]

Most of the stuff -in- tab 5 is easier to make than tab 4 too

[dapper bridge]

hardest is gonna be the salts but thanks

[tacit tulip]

bar the worship/trap stuff

[finite sparrow]

None of my archers is even at fairies and i'm at lampars in w5

My archers are at bees max

[fast grail]

Sounds like alch/stamp neglect

[finite sparrow]

None of my mages are at cubed logs either lmfao

[dapper bridge]

I'll push w4 on the siege breaker to unlock fairies after reaching lv200 on him

[finite sparrow]

I have to make my goal push w4 in all chars next

I'm embarrassed

[tacit tulip]

keep in mind some of us have no life and always have this game open

[dapper bridge]

But my shame is still having a squire lv80

[potent lily]

I have low card chance oof

[tacit tulip]

It's not a race - we can advise on where to improve but don#'t be sad you're not matching us

[dapper bridge]

Don't worry eventually you'll get them

[finite sparrow]

I play mostly afk. I play active ES sometimes when my refinery is all empty and need to farm materials

[potent lily]

Dw i have char lvl 73

[fast grail]

just gotta slowly progress your account, this is what mine is just hopping into this map on bubo with all fightning gear and no skilling card setup/set

[dapper bridge]

I'm stalling way too much on doing a decent round of td on the snowman map bc i'm on mobile until my pc arrives

[tacit tulip]

lol had to filter out quenchie drops or it'll overfill overnight

[potent lily]

Do i put my chars on sigels or alc?

[tacit tulip]

wasn't expecting that in w3

Alc until you at least have all bubbles unlocked

sigil is a trap until then

[lament jasper]

4 ish first sigils takes very few time to unlock tho

[dapper bridge]

All bubbles from cauldrons then sigils

[opaque sun]

unlock all bubbles and 170 the cauldrons, then all into sigil

[dapper bridge]

Someone could tell where is the link of the td sheets?

[potent lily]

Oof look at this

[dapper bridge]

Bro got some messed priorities

[fast grail]

please

[dapper bridge]

Recommend taking them from sigils like NOW

Alc is literally the key from every single point on the game

[potent lily]

In a week i will

[dapper bridge]

Bro in this week you could be at mid w5 if you put them chars in the cauldrons but you decide

[lament jasper]

Thats crazy painful to see

[dapper bridge]

I was hardstuck at w3 2 months ago then i went for a decent alc

[zealous niche]

If you have a decent bubo set-up you could be back on sigils in a week with all bubbles unlocked

[fast grail]

Continuing sigils is straight up trolling

[dapper bridge]

And i'm still behind

[zealous niche]

We’re telling you how to fix that

Sigils are not the path forward

[potent lily]

Im so close to make it

[zealous niche]

They’re what you do when you have nothing left to unlock

[dapper bridge]

But in the end you are the one who decides bro

[lament jasper]

He doesnt decide. I am rapidly approaching.

[potent lily]

Ok ill take it off

[zealous niche]

Unlock all bubbles, get them all to level 5

[dapper bridge]

This one is gonna be good only if you unlock divinity bc of the parallel timeskip that one of them gives

[zealous niche]

Optionally, get all boost to 170

That’s the best way to fix your alchemy

[potent lily]

Can i buy more space for chars on coldren?

[zealous niche]

That’d be a good idea if you can, gem shop sells iirc

[potent lily]

Ill get it to my purple one ? Its my lowest bubble lvl

[zealous niche]

Whichever you feel is helpful

[fast verge]

oh boi

[potent lily]

You got 1 each?

[zealous niche]

If you have the gems all four would be good, but that depends on how much you’ve farmed or how magic your plastic is 💳

[zealous niche]

Can only get one for each

[potent lily]

O ok

I have 500 gems rn

[zealous niche]

The 4/4 is one of each colour

[potent lily]

Im free to play btw

Got the purple one

[zealous niche]

That’s ok, you’ll eventually get it all

[tacit tulip]

You'll get a lot of power once you get into a position to gem farm

takes a little longer as f2p of course

but you'll get there

[zealous niche]

What I meant before about it depends. All of the purchases are just matters of convenience

Sorry, all money purchases are convenience*

The necessary parts of the game can be obtained f2p

[potent lily]

The event got me lots of candys so if i want i can use on the moon guys so i can farm doot

[tacit tulip]

wheyyyy my wife just rolled eldritch fury 🎉 🎉🎉

[potent lily]

All the candys/baloons i got rn

[tacit galleon]

You still have spooky candy?

[potent lily]

Didnt use them ao yea

[hollow osprey]

what's that?

[tacit galleon]

They are a Halloween exclusive candy

[dapper prism]

the candy that looks spooky xD

[hollow osprey]

oh nice, how many hours do they give?

[tacit galleon]

Lava hasn’t done a Halloween event in a long time

20 minutes to 12 hours I think

[hollow osprey]

oh well

[potent lily]

Yea 20min -12 hurs

[hollow osprey]

events in idleon feel pretty nice, liked the summer event

[pearl cedar]

Ugh double archer killroy 🤢

[tacit galleon]

Summer event was okay

Spring event was sick

[hollow osprey]

well it was the first event in idleon for me

[tacit galleon]

Oh

lol

[potent lily]

Lots of candys lol

[tacit galleon]

I really liked the apple event

[hollow osprey]

i just play since june

[pearl cedar]

Easter event was the goat

[hollow osprey]

there will definitely be a christmas event ig?

[tacit galleon]

Yeah I know what you mean

[pearl cedar]

Maybe he went from like not doing events at all to doing a bunch

[tacit galleon]

Hopefully

[hollow osprey]

i want a santa claus beard on my ES

[tacit galleon]

lol

[potent lily]

I liked ester for the bosses capsule

[pearl cedar]

Yeah wish id have saved them for dk 21x dr lol

[indigo vector]

What's the max amount of colosseum tickets you can get per day

Is it 3

[sacred verge]

😛

[opaque sun]

not including tickets from po6, 3 a day

[indigo vector]

What's po6

[opaque sun]

Po box order 6

Its another source of tickets

[potent lily]

Is this leagel?

[cobalt moat]

howcome does my +1000% xp gain maestro get 4 divinity xp per hour while my +200% xp gain rate bucaneer gets like 8?

[fading cape]

skill xp gains don't impact div xp gains I don't think, I think only efficiency does

[fading cape]

or worship method?

[opaque sun]

“All skill exp” doesnt include many skills

[cobalt moat]

uhhh
so you need
efficency that gives u more px bcs ure efficent?

[cobalt moat]

wait fr?

[wary jewel]

What do you guys use your colosseum tickets on? I have around 130 and it seems the rewards aren't worth the 20runs of w4 colo.

[opaque sun]

construct, lab, breed, sail, divinity are not “all skills” due to how their exp is set up

[cobalt moat]

bruh
Didnt know that. Much thank you 🥺
How does one go about icnreasing divinity efficency then? or xp gain for that matter? just set in stone what hte meditation methods are or?

mad confused tbh

[opaque sun]

there are couple sources in w5 that says divinity exp, but else it ignores afk gain and other generic all skill exp %

[cobalt moat]

alright. So is there any reason not to just go divving on ur fighting build?

as far as divinity itself is concerned, ignoring u could still use ur skilling build for anvil and such passively

[opaque sun]

You can just divinity on any preset honestly

Just take off unending prayer as that 10hr limit applies

[cobalt moat]

fair
Howcome does my ES have 10 xp per hour then with the same efficency of 1 tho 👀

[opaque sun]

the mage talent of specialized skill does apply to divinity

[cobalt moat]

ah

alright

i see you

where as maestro's doesnt to those

makes sense, much ty

[opaque sun]

originally it didnt, but lava later added to affect div

[cobalt moat]

[cobalt moat]

so the one of 12 latest talents that dont have specialised

:,)

do other ppl have more xp gain for it if maestro is highest lvld tho?

[opaque sun]

no the hands apply to “all skill”

[cobalt moat]

danggg

[opaque sun]

So it doesnt affect div exp unfortunately

[cobalt moat]

Unlucky, gotcha though tysm for the info

[sharp igloo]

Does nkruk have a really low card drop rate or am I just unlucky lol? Ive gotten 2 teeth necklaces, and not a single card lol

[opaque sun]

kattle in general has low base card chance yeah

Troll cards are 1/250 while kattle cards are 1/1250

[potent lily]

When id happy hour?

[sharp igloo]

Hm okay, Ill go back to it after I finish the crawler quest on my DK. I thought i had it done, but I didnt. Glad I didnt get a cape lol

[signal osprey]

The pendant is also 1/2500 for NKruk which is only twice as rare as the card

[opaque sun]

you happy hour when you can, and also have enough booster tickets for a full usage

[signal osprey]

So getting 2 pendants and no cards is kinda unlucky but certainly feasible

[sharp igloo]

Thats kinda nuts lol. How many cards do you need to get to 3 star?

[opaque sun]

you have card drop chance stat so its better than straight 1/1250 tho

[potent lily]

Like how long is it till happy hour?

[signal osprey]

Well its not as bad if you run card drop chance

[opaque sun]

depends. Its not a readily available info

[signal osprey]

Its on both IE and IT and you can also just go to a dungeon lobby to check as well

[opaque sun]

game does a poor job to telling the happy hour shcedule, so its mostly from external sources

[signal osprey]

Game is usually accurate provided you aren't desynced

[potent lily]

24 min i chacked

[untold saffron]

Am I right its a waste to level the class xp shiny pets?

[potent lily]

will anyome wanna help me with it my 20x run

[untold saffron]

I'd come

[potent lily]

Ok

[sharp igloo]

Is it happy hour?

[rough wasp]

I have so many tickets from not running dungeons for a while lmao

[stuck elbow]

4th times the charm?

[vagrant mountain]

x1050K

[olive sphinx]

Does king doot works with link bonuses ?

The minor ones

[lament jasper]

Oml thats painful to watch

[hollow osprey]

could anyone explain me the maneki kat artifact?

[stuck elbow]

im crying

on the bright side i might get triple mail sometimes

[crisp silo]

The gamba was too strong in this one

[untold saffron]

how so?

https://i.gyazo.com/69933da848a1166876bf541af1a70f99.png

if you just unlocked it and haven't swapped maps it'll say 0

[hollow osprey]

ohh well that's what i was confused about, what is meaned by monsters? so basically how can i increase the bonus?

[signal osprey]

Monsters drop coins

This increases how much

Based on your highest character level

[hollow osprey]

ohh well ty

oh bruh sorry i was literally lost af.. xD

[signal osprey]

I'm always lost

[hollow osprey]

i'm a bit sick can't think really good rn

somehow i thought about the sailing gold when reading coins..

[noble sable]

Congrats

[modern plaza]

you forgot to do the cross of jesus before you tapped. next time for sure

[signal osprey]

Everyone knows for maximum luck you only attempt snails upgrades after spending atoms on bob

[barren otter]

whats the best way to ruby this and the other one?

[lament jasper]

Just smelt copper and candy gmush sb

[untold saffron]

should I be getting slush or skilling hex obols to sample?

[lament jasper]

Slush better for most iir

[untold saffron]

well thats handy, sick

[barren otter]

you candy gmush and go back to pick up like a handful of cards...

[hollow osprey]

how to ruby cards?

[lament jasper]

I mean i get lots of them tbh

[modern plaza]

jusst buy it

[lament jasper]

Ewww gem wasting

[barren otter]

im out of cardifiers

lol

[lament jasper]

Unlock in rift

[modern plaza]

oh, it's the best way tho

[barren otter]

that is true

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/bf2a155fcee8be513ee6e442b0b26755.mp4

this just some visual glitch?

[barren otter]

guess i wait till next refresh of it

[muted bramble]

if you do lab and use candy does that count for the divinity too ?

[peak pendant]

not as bad as if it was pre change

back when it would ALL go

[opaque sun]

If you somehow found a way to use candy in lab, sure

[signal osprey]

Tbh reseting to 0 and reseting to 15 are basically the same

Either way gaming is just a useless skill

[peak pendant]

😔

its fun

[signal osprey]

Thats a weird way to spell rng

[pearl cedar]

Gambling addicts be like

[signal osprey]

Its literally just a slot machine. You pull the lever and win or lose

[muted bramble]

my brain wasnt braining

[signal osprey]

Only the fun part with gaming is even if you win you still don't win

[opaque sun]

15 > 10 (15 mails) and 15 > 0 (45 mails) is a noticeable difference, but yeah if you look at it that way

[signal osprey]

Because the skill doesn't do anything

[peak pendant]

remember though, all gamblers quit right before their big win

[muted bramble]

thats why i spend more

[signal osprey]

Thats actually very true for gaming

[opaque sun]

sounds like some serious sour grape

[signal osprey]

Because the big win would be the last superbit

[pearl cedar]

Yeah but if you get 1billion times current max multi you get more atoms

[peak pendant]

yep

[vagrant mountain]

half of those quitters quit because there's nothing left to sell

[signal osprey]

But thats impossible to reach no matter what you do

[peak pendant]

what IS the last bit

i havent seen it yet

[opaque sun]

more atom max lvls

[signal osprey]

+10 to all max atom levels

[peak pendant]

for how much?

[signal osprey]

90Q red bits lol

[opaque sun]

not reachable yet, but will when lava adds some more multipliers

[peak pendant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1035428860520570880.webp?size=512&name=despair~1&quality=lossless

[signal osprey]

When there are people with 200k nuggets and a 25 snail in the billions of red bits

[peak pendant]

surely he unlocks that last gaming tab soon

[signal osprey]

No matter what you do it isn't reachable

[opaque sun]

for now

But being prepared helps

[signal osprey]

Sad thing is that even if it was reachable it still wouldn't make gaming better it would just move the goal post for uselessness

[potent lily]

My 1st time getting the lest boss 🙂

[peak pendant]

also he'll prolly add more bits later

superbits

[signal osprey]

Instead of becoming useless at 2 red bits it becomes useless at 90Q red bits

[opaque sun]

Few more atom per day is nice tho

[dapper meadow]

I mean I assume the purple bits would be added sooner or later

[peak pendant]

wait so purple bits are after red bits

?

[signal osprey]

Yeah and there's even blue bits after that

[opaque sun]

Yes. Purple is after red

[peak pendant]

ok so then, yea, itll be reachable, and yea therell be more stuff in gaming, likely some scaling stuff

[signal osprey]

Assuming lava gets around to it

Never forget boons

[peak pendant]

he has 3 worlds to go

[north juniper]

I've just been donating the spiders around my house for that 250k nugget

Not sure how many more I need

[opaque sun]

Until he makes w1+

[signal osprey]

Even new game plus W1 still won't fix the forge

[north juniper]

Finally got that last stupid eldritch from the toxic island. Can finally throw all my boats to the last 2 now.

Happy days

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-depp-pirate-pirate-salute-salute-intergalactic-pirates-of-the-caribbean-gif-25016099

[void pulsar]

anyone have the farming list for all the statues?

[north juniper]

In the pins

[void pulsar]

tyty

[north juniper]

It's a nice list. You can even say it's pin-tastic.....

https://tenor.com/view/see-myself-out-gif-21716927

[manic moat]

Has anyone been on the atom collider page and clicked to remove the happy hour link and switch you atoms from 1b to 10m and all your items go down to 10m.... That sucks

back to the grind I guess

[thin rose]

We only pin trickz

[dapper prism]

The coincidance of literally just sitting down at my PC and seeing my name 👀

[thin rose]

I seen you sit down from the camera on your left monitor

[dapper prism]

Damn, to bad my camera is on my right monitor

[north juniper]

I might be partially to blame for that. I pushed that div list initially that made him edit it

[thin rose]

I lost the 50/50

[opaque sun]

always keep atom on 1050m and off for double measures

[dapper prism]

I need to change something?

[north juniper]

No I had rash pin that list and then you said "Well now I need to edit it to make it look nicer" or something like that lol

[heavy moth]

finally

[north juniper]

As long as we pin it, it's guaranteed to be tidied up

[dapper prism]

Oh right, making it even nicer atm but been a bit distracted 👀

[thin rose]

Quad speed pots?

[north juniper]

Hey it;s labor day weekend

[dapper prism]

Work in progress:
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[heavy moth]

yea but only got small one as forth lost my choco one

[north juniper]

Just have a beer and kick back. Or root beer for you young ones.

[north juniper]

It's bootiful

[thin rose]

It's Monday tho

[north juniper]

Still Sunday here

Plus I'm off tomorrow anyhow

[thin rose]

Also what's root beer

[north juniper]

That's a question that dictates age

[thin rose]

I'm in my 20's

[dapper prism]

Was working on this today, not sure which version i prefer atm.
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[north juniper]

Yup sounds about right LOL

[thin rose]

Also I'm from Europe, don't think we have that here

Just normal beer

[north juniper]

I have always wanted something like that

[dapper prism]

Me too xD

[thin rose]

Don't we have an alchemy list?

[opaque sun]

its not an alcohol beverage despite it says beer

[thin rose]

Interesting

[dapper prism]

Hate remembering what bubbled needed what material xD

[north juniper]

Visual guide for the materials is OP

[dapper prism]

we have the bubble effy one. Which this is based on, but this is to see what materials are used where

[thin rose]

Beer that's not beer

[vagrant mountain]

like ginger beer

[thin rose]

Never heard of that either

[north juniper]

When do you anticipate finishing it? Can a man get an early copy?

[opaque sun]

if you ever drank Dr Pepper, think as something similar to that

[thin rose]

Ah I see

I was thinking it would be something similar to cidona

[signal osprey]

You forgot to add the color coding for bob that emphasizes that its better than everything else

[thin rose]

Smells and tastes like beer, but isn't

[opaque sun]

its more of a sweet soda american beverage than a beer

[vagrant mountain]

they're just sodas but there is a little bit of fermentation in the process so they are called root beer, ginger beer, ginger ale, etc

[signal osprey]

Nah root beer is very much a soda that has nothing in common with any beer I've ever encountered

[dapper prism]

Yeh, ill try and remember 😄
Working on a full spreadsheet atm, still needs a bunch of work

[north juniper]

Root beer is exclusively for mixing

That's fine. Whenever you get around to it. I'll be happy to QA that sucker.

[thin rose]

I see, I'm from Ireland so alcohol is included in mostly everything

[dapper prism]

You know the similarity between US beer and Canoeing?

[thin rose]

Both suck?

[dapper prism]

They are both damn near close to water.

[thin rose]

Yikes

[opaque sun]

being from ireland, i guess people would riot drinking something called beer with no alcohol

[thin rose]

Probably so

Don't you guys drink most alcohol from a can or bottle too?

Like can you order pints at most places

I still think it's absolutely illegal that you guys made a drink called an Irish car bomb

[opaque sun]

also root beer bottles and cans looks like a typical beer. And also often served in beer mugs if ordered at a store

[signal osprey]

It wouldnt be american if you cant trace its roots to something racist or stereotypical

[thin rose]

And it's a mix of baileys and Guinness

[opaque sun]

Naming every food “French -“ just because

[swift pecan]

Thought it was Jager and guinness

[signal osprey]

As an american I can confirm that when you think of ireland those two things come to mind. My previous statement holds true

[dapper prism]

Any country.
They will lable everything "Swiss Cheese" or "French Bread" even though it has nothing to do with those countries.

[north juniper]

The best combination is black currant and Guinness

[opaque sun]

Only thing that named a country that comes from that country i can think of is american cheese

[north juniper]

I'll die on this hill

Had that in England at someones recommendation and it was like being born for a second time

[thin rose]

I've met quite a few American tourists, for some reason you guys like coming here

[vagrant mountain]

as a Canadian, I'm disgusted by all the light beer in America, like wtf just drink seltzers

our equivalent of light beer in Canada is Pabst Blue Ribbon cuz it's only 4.5%

[signal osprey]

Thats because a lot of us would rather be anywhere but here

[vagrant mountain]

go to any house party in Canada and there will always be PBR cans

[thin rose]

Tbf I could never live in America

Too many people

I hate cities

[vagrant mountain]

I like big cities tbh I could see myself moving to America

I just think that it's stupid everyone has a gun in America

[signal osprey]

The big cities in america are ass though I wouldnt recommend it

[thin rose]

Every city is a big city

[vagrant mountain]

just takes one mentally ill Karen to fucking shoot me in the back of the head for no reason

[thin rose]

I live in a city of 20k people

[opaque sun]

mentally ill but a crackshot

[signal osprey]

Two of the three biggest cities in the US are chicago and LA and those also happen to be home to the two airports I have frequented the most because for some reason I travel to those places

Speaking from experience big cities are absolute dogshit

[vagrant mountain]

nah, she'll be shooting at a car and she'll miss as I'm walking by

[signal osprey]

LA might be my least favorite place on earth

[opaque sun]

guess need to learn to love dog shits

[sacred monolith]

Also flown between Ohare and LAX. Can confirm

[signal osprey]

Yeah even the airport sucks. LAX is a mess

Although Ohare is actually not a bad airport so I guess Chicago gets a point for that

[vagrant mountain]

I landed in LAX 2 days ago I can confirm

flight delayed by 6 hrs

[sacred monolith]

I've played that game

[vagrant mountain]

took them 1hr to get the fking airport tunnel to the plane

I stayed in Chicago for a bit and yeah its kinda messy

[thin rose]

I love tunnels

We don't have many here except around dublin

Driving through a tunnel is pure serotonin

[vagrant mountain]

weirdge

driving through a tunnel is fine I admit

[rotund rivet]

what map gives more power statues? I'm planning to use candy

[vagrant mountain]

something about the echoes

[thin rose]

That's what I like

Especially hearing loud cars

[thin rose]

Beans

Also don't you dare candy power statues

[vagrant mountain]

a lot of tunnels around where I live in Canada because of the mountains

[thin rose]

Just active beans on DK

[rotund rivet]

No other choice, I don't have time to active farming. Thanks by the way.

[opaque sun]

if you really must candy, its not beans

[full plover]

someone has the gem shop tierlist updated?

[vagrant mountain]

not sure which mob has the bag for power statues

[thin rose]

I have Tony's gem shop tier list, about it

[opaque sun]

If candy, carrot man as beans them selves dont drop power statues

[opaque sun]

But its like 1/1390 for a power statue, so good luck with 20k via candy

[signal osprey]

Its like 1/3k for the W3 statues that a lot of us candied instead of using ES

20k power shouldnt be too awful to candy

[thin rose]

Serious waste candying them

[signal osprey]

Agreed but if you never active farm then you dont have much choice I guess

[thin rose]

You can get like 40-50k overnight active :v

Just leave your PC on y'know

[signal osprey]

Apparently not everyone has one

[thin rose]

Can just leave your phone running when you sleep tbf

[opaque sun]

also pretty much rip knowing he not doing active for other things

[thin rose]

Surprised he has enough candy to even think about doing that for power statues

[hidden grove]

hmmm something tells me I won't be able to get this slab done lmao

[thin rose]

Most of my candy comes from w2 col

[signal osprey]

1/1390 shouldnt take much candy

The W3 statues are nearly 3 times as rare and those were like 200-300 hours

[opaque sun]

Used up the iPhone box before registering on slab?

[lone galleon]

i am seriously slacking on my active time

[hidden grove]

yep

[thin rose]

I'm only at 300-310 past 2

[lone galleon]

my computer blue screened overnight twice

gains destroyed

[opaque sun]

The iphone box may make a return in some seasonal event

[signal osprey]

I'm at 311 and I dont know how

I havent stopped in the past 2 weeks and I never had any crashes or anything either

Steam cant count

[opaque sun]

Bluesceen sounds like more of pc issue than the app

[lone galleon]

ya it is

[blazing sand]

Can the plants in gaming actually grow past stage 5 atm? Or can we just unlock them but they not ingame yet, or just stupid rare. 200 + hours with these plants and nothing yet.

[barren otter]

slacking

[signal osprey]

But my total is higher

[barren otter]

we can ignore that part

[signal osprey]

[barren otter]

[sick sentinel]

Can, just takes a long time

[barren otter]

337.3 hrs is slightly more than 2 weeks wonder how that works

[signal osprey]

Steam cant count. I definitely should have more than 311

Maybe I missed an hour or two for some reason but I dont close my game so it shouldnt be much more than that

[barren otter]

yea I don't actually ever close my game

[thin rose]

Might've had 2 things open at once

[sick sentinel]

#1106590058947035247 message
If u want to play around with this, have fun

[thin rose]

Or is it strictly under idleon

[signal osprey]

True your profile keeps track of total playtime so if you have two games running you can get two hours per hour

[barren otter]

oh yea I usually do have a 2nd steam game open but thats just from idleon

or is it? I'm not sure

[thin rose]

I normally play RL when idleon is running

[signal osprey]

I've had my profile go over 400 before because I played other games while having idleon running 24/7

[barren otter]

well if it counts another game then I'd have way more than 337

[blazing sand]

Didn't realize that we had a cacl for that thanks

[shy flame]

What do I need to know about shiny pets to make my account less trash for end game content

[leaden karma]

how do i finish rift 17 ?

[pearl cedar]

Beat me

[leaden karma]

i don't know how to spread skulls

[patent hatch]

Really puts in perspective the accounts with 12k hours plus

[cedar meadow]

got a second captain slot, but no captain? how do i get more?

[opaque sun]

it refreshes daily at the slave market at far right of docks

[cedar meadow]

thanks

totally forgot about that. just went and bought a second one

[patent hatch]

I think I have 4.8k has slowed down since I’ve started leaving my pc off past six months

[barren otter]

still got you beat on 2 weeks time

[pearl cedar]

I played on mobile for a little but

[barren otter]

7.7k hours is still wild

only game i played higher than that is wow

[patent hatch]

10k plus for league

Unfortunately

[pearl cedar]

But you have to actually play wow

I just leave idleon on

[barren otter]

yea... and i had over 1000 days playtime on wow before i quit

[signal osprey]

Curious what my actual idleon playtime is

[pearl cedar]

Yeah I have a not insignificant amount of time on mobile

[signal osprey]

My mobile time isnt too high I just want to know how much time I actually am playing the game and how much is just auto farming while I'm not even home

[pearl cedar]

Oh gotcha, yeah maybe like 5-10% lol

[signal osprey]

#achievement-pics message

[barren otter]

takes me like 5ish mins every 1-2 hr claim

and barely anything else aside from that unless it's a sample day

so yea not a lot of actual input

[signal osprey]

I wish I could say the same but I'm finally forcing myself to do decants and GT so I'm actually paying attention to a bubo now

[barren otter]

oh right

[signal osprey]

Dk so much better though

[barren otter]

depending on omni procs I do have to play my bubo quite a bit...

hate that for us

[opaque sun]

The time when vman proc brr multiple times when your remaining liquid is like 1k

[signal osprey]

Printer go brr is a blessing and a curse

Some days I spend a few hours using it because I keep needing to get more liquid in between procs

[leaden karma]

how do i spread these skulls?

rift 17

[signal osprey]

When you kill a skull it has a chance to upgrade and spread to another random mob

Its basically just rng

[opaque sun]

Just auto on sb, es or bubo and it will be done

[leaden karma]

ok tnx

[opaque sun]

Remove attacks that kills everything on map if you seem to be killing everything before respawn

[barren otter]

ive used printer go brr without checking my liquids

only to swap to bubo and get a printer proc

[signal osprey]

Only need 17 more cap levels in cauldron 1 and then every bonus on all cauldrons is at least 200

[barren otter]

im gonna go back to that when i get the liquid sigil

in 65 days

[exotic juniper]

the worst feeling 😦

[signal osprey]

I finish lab exp in 7 days and then I can finally start the liquid sigil

[barren otter]

i dont actually know how long this will take

i just know its not anytime soon

[signal osprey]

Assuming you have the same number of people on each one as you unlock them and you dont get any more speed boosts it should be roughly 90 days to finish tier 1 of liquid sigil

Thats 90 days total for all the ones you need not 90 just for liquid alone

[barren otter]

i do have all of the gem shop sigil stuff bought out

and yea im leaving 4 in per new sigil at a time

hmm so 60ish days is a fairly realistic timeframe for me to finish the liquid sigil then

[uncut hull]

does arctis and goat work on ES?

[opaque sun]

goat needs physical presence in lab, arctis’s proxy does not count as physical presence in lab

[uncut hull]

fuuuck

okay thanks

does it work with harriep?

[exotic juniper]

sooo can i play the game now?

[pearl cedar]

Is really not worth if you don't have rift slug too might as well quit

[opaque sun]

Hare and arctis gives 6x printing even outside yes

Do note, minor link bonuses that affect all characters does not trigger if worn as 2nd god (as talent)

[untold lintel]

is this worth activating if Im able to check plants like 3 times a day

[opaque sun]

If you have like 2 min cycle, probably not

[untold lintel]

i got 2 hour cycle lol

im early gaming

just unlocked it

[opaque sun]

If like 2hrs, turning on kitsune should be beneficial

[untold lintel]

i assume so, I need more plants for more mutation shard things

and more evolutions to level shell, etc, just wanted a professional opinion

[visual tangle]

what does this mean? are you referring to the ES talent?

[opaque sun]

Yes es talent

When game checks for those “all characters” minor link bonuses, it ignores those gods worn via the ES talent

[visual tangle]

so I should be good then right?

[opaque sun]

So if possible, its better to have hare as main god, arctis via talent

0 does nothing if i rememer correctly

So should get lv10

[pearl cedar]

Why vman so slow at killing nkruk?

[opaque sun]

Or whatever number you want for the god

[fast grail]

jeez, what quick slap at now?

[pearl cedar]

Only 3650

[barren otter]

lmao

[pearl cedar]

Had to stop to push big p and shimmeron and diamond chef

[barren otter]

i was glad my vman was finally hitting 10Ts

and youre here 1 tapping him

[pearl cedar]

Tbf it is 4 jabs in one

[barren otter]

still a 1 tap in my mind

[zenith cape]

I barely get 12m in crits you guys are crazy in my eyes. 1000T? Jesus

[shy flame]

what do I need to know about shiny pets for end game progression?

[magic oyster]

That lots of them aren't worth it ? ;p

Does vman card drop talent work for dungeons btw ?

[shy flame]

lol, are there some that are? I have no idea how they work at all but I figure if there's side stuff I can work on other than alchemy I should probably work at that too

[visual tangle]

put them in the fence then forget they exist

[magic oyster]

Shiny bugs me a bit in that you get far more of them can fit in the fence, and having them there is a big drag on unlocking new pets because your breeding space is limited. I figure the 'increase shiny level up speed' ones get a permanent slot and the rest kind of cycle around a bit

[placid mural]

With the exception of star signs, I waited to do shiny isn't like had every pet

Waited to do shiny until I had every pet

[visual tangle]

I honestly forgot shinnies were a thing until recently so I prob shouldn't be talking about them lol

[uncut imp]

What class goes to divine knight

[sharp vine]

Look at that rounding

[magic oyster]

Yeah, that's tempting too, but it's really wasteful of the shiny chance stacking ability

[shy flame]

squire

[placid mural]

Dude every single shiny is a one hundred percent chance to hatch for me

[uncut imp]

Thx

[shy flame]

I haven't started on shinies really but I'm trying to get all the bonuses I can, even the ones that aren't alchemy

my min bubble is only 65 so I'm playing catchup to most players frequently in this chat

[rotund rivet]

Is this ring good?

[opaque sun]

neutral

Its just as good as the original stopwatch as 3% atk speed hardly adds anything

And few wp and stats is like something, but nothing to write home about

[shy flame]

it's decent if you can't buy the 10k flurbo dungeon rings

[opaque sun]

its more the opposite, you buy the opal for those who dont get the stopwatch

You never use the stopwatch for active

[shy flame]

I'm so bad at idleon for someone who has killed kattlekruk

[sweet mountain]

finally over. Any strategies on shiny? Thinking on focusing on shiny lvl up speed until lvl 10 for each pet and then moving on.

[crystal tulip]

Is this true with Doot too? Or do you get all the minor bonuses?

[opaque sun]

Afk guys use opal just because there isnt a way to get 20 stopwatches

[opaque sun]

For doot its fine

[crystal tulip]

Shiney lvl up speed and star signs are priority.

[opaque sun]

Its just specific to ES talent ignores applying “all characters” effect to others

ES himself gets the money bonus on himself tho

[shy flame]

so get all the stopwatches I can and give them to my most AFK characters?

[opaque sun]

basically yes

[shy flame]

that bubo I have locked in a tube full time is in for a treat, unless the lab rings are better for that

[opaque sun]

You can make one of the stop watch to the skill afk just for slab purpose (optional. Irreversible)

[tall horizon]

I made two, they are useful at times for cooking and vman skilling 🤷

[opaque sun]

cooking is kind of dubious, but yeah for skilling that doesnt care efficiency its okay

[shy flame]

cooking honestly feels like the most time consuming skill to level up, to me at least

[opaque sun]

Not like level does anything

[tall horizon]

It's usually only useful in cooking when I'm really close to a new threshold but can't get it lol

[opaque sun]

And it is the slowest to level atm

[tall horizon]

But basically always use both for vman

[opaque sun]

Also for skilling one, its hard to get 2 gold pickle

[tall horizon]

Midnight are still probably preferably though

Or silver if it rolls +%

[opaque sun]

midnight commits to a craft path, but not much different from original

[shy flame]

Cooking levels do one small thing I probably need to improve on

[tall horizon]

Ya,I kept most of mine as silvers

[opaque sun]

midnight is more of a way to reset a bricked silver of failed mystery

[shy flame]

I probably should try to get at least the 100 cooking bonus for skill mastery

[opaque sun]

300-500 isnt too bad with balloons

[shy flame]

I have 261 small balloons and 26 medium

[vestal delta]

do you have to have the starsign unlocked for an infinite starsign to apply?

[opaque sun]

No

Theoretically you can do 0 starsigns and still get all starsign bonuses just through infinite starsigns

[shy flame]

I kind of never looked into mechanics or optimization until after I killed kattlekruk so I'm probably way behind a lot of folk in here

[astral vapor]

Welcome to the club.

[amber dragon]

As I finally reach w5 boss with my main, I wonder what is the cheapest gear for alts to push levels? (they are lvl100 ish)

[modern plaza]

what do you mean? you just finished the game 😄

[shy flame]

Honestly probably whatever it takes to get them to afking world 5 mobs. The EXP is more important than the cost @amber dragon , and like, yeah, getting people 300+ fast is great

[sweet mountain]

for statue farm, which card is better to double? DR or 60% crystal chance (Already have the 90% doubled with the other chip)?

[visual tangle]

up to level 10? I'm struggling to get to 5

[amber dragon]

If my main is only lvl350, should I push alts now or later.

My alts are sitting labs now

[shy flame]

Have you done much divinity yet?

[amber dragon]

6th god

[sweet mountain]

It gets easier over time, specially if you have all fence slots unlocked

[visual tangle]

fair enough, just feels like another sigil type of waiting game

[feral hemlock]

So infinite starsigns means those are always active?

[shy flame]

I'm not the most well optimized player or the most knowledgeable, but my first character is lvl358, the next 5 are all 300+, and the last 4 are vmen and dedicated skillers. Personally, I'm mostly using the god that lets you be active in lab even if you aren't loaded in to the mainframe to keep lab going

Probably not the most efficient, but my account wide lab level is about 500 and I just have one poor bubo sitting in a tube

[pearl cedar]

Nobody should be a dedicated skiller

[shy flame]

I need 90 fishing on someone and I can't get fishing xp from samples

[crisp silo]

Candy

[muted bramble]

recommendation ?

[crisp silo]

Ballons

[dire apex]

Crystal island

[grizzled elk]

90 fishing isn't too bad once you get seasalt island

[thin rose]

90 fishing is freelo

[shy flame]

Don't have the candy or fishing to get to 90 fishing, currently have a vman on seasalt island

also fishing candy seems bugged as hell

[thin rose]

[modern plaza]

honestly depends how far you are in.... then crystals or rando (unless you really car about trash high key)... unless you are so bored and finished all progression basically, then fractal

[shy flame]

I mean, it literally is just bugged. I got 1hr worth of fishing exp based on afk info using a 4hr time candy, that doesn't exactly seem like the best use time candy

[thin rose]

Never had that issue

[shy flame]

I got receipts

The game is a grind, I'm okay with that, but some people aren't as far into the grind as you

[thin rose]

Jesus your fishing stats are garbage

[fallen torrent]

getting doot doenst make all your char be automaticly in lab?

[sick sentinel]

the afk menu on seasalt shows the exp assuming you can catch 100% efficiency

[fallen torrent]

or do i put 1 on purrmep rest on arctis??

[shy flame]

Yeah, this was the best explanation I got

[fallen torrent]

whatcha mean by that @thin rose im confused

[thin rose]

The fact that you're not even using dimwit hurts my soul

[fallen torrent]

Do you have 1 on purrmep and rest on arctis??

[shy flame]

either the game isn't a grind or it is, if it is a grind, is it okay that I'm still working on making my account better and that it will take time 💀 💀 💀

[modern plaza]

it will take forever regardless any route you go, as long as you enjoy the journey

[shy flame]

Also have receipts for dimwit usage, 1.7 hr afk exp for a 4hr candy

[modern plaza]

the fishing exp value only holds true if you can catch all the fish i think

[vagrant mountain]

[opaque sun]

yeah always active.

[shy flame]

yeah, another person mentioned that earlier, and like, that is honestly the most likely reason, I've said so before

[grizzled elk]

I'll test for you, 1 sec

[fallen torrent]

with doot pet. do i need to put 1 on purrmep and rest on artis to really get all effect correctly??

[vagrant mountain]

the fishing exp value in afk info assumes you receive 100% green depth fish but if you had enough efficiency for purple depth youd be getting closer to 100m an hr

[modern plaza]

just 1 on ttiger and you gucci

[modern plaza]

lol u got more than 4x

[shy flame]

I just don't really enjoy when the answer is, "balloon or candy" and I'm like "alright here's the results of that" and the response is "lol you're trash, you need more fishing eff" like, yeah, I definitely do, I can't just quintuple my fishing efficiency immediately

[modern plaza]

double exp proc?

[grizzled elk]

more than 4x so the numbetr is still wonky

[fallen torrent]

okay so doot just give free arctis, i was confused cause all my char wasnt in lab..

[modern plaza]

cloud save

[vagrant mountain]

would be more than 4x if you equip max purp depth gear

[grizzled elk]

I did proc double xp, but that doesn't show up on that menu

[modern plaza]

all your characters have ever god on

[modern plaza]

then it is 4x 2x so it right

[grizzled elk]

double xp doesn't show up on the xp claim menu

I got double that 1.324

[grizzled elk]

I didn't know that, although it makes sense

[shy flame]

This chat is for questions about w5/end game content, I know I have a lot to improve on, but it also feels increasingly common that like people with minimum bubble 500 and who can sample 500m maple logs are just like, "well problem is you suck idk, can't help you there"

[vagrant mountain]

common misconception is that you want to equip bait and tackle with skill exp but really you just want to maximize purple depth because those fish are the majority of your exp

[grizzled elk]

I hope I wasn't coming off this way, I'm a long way away from some of those crazy endgamers

[shy flame]

Nah, a lot of people here give really good advice that I really appreciate, that's why I started actually like asking questions, because I do want to improve and all

[vagrant mountain]

Not really sure about the context, but it helps if you ask specific/targeted questions.
"Which bubbles should I focus my atoms on",
as opposed to
"How do I improve my alchemy"

[cyan bone]

Is it even possible to improve cooking past level 50? Or worth it?

[vagrant mountain]

yes I've seen maxed meals

[grizzled elk]

I think he means the cooking skill, not meals

[cyan bone]

Cooking skill, yes

[grizzled elk]

slightly better ladle gains on your BB, and skill mastery shit from the rift is all I can think of

[cyan bone]

So not really worth it

[grizzled elk]

and cash multi from star talent

I'll bump my cooking level up one and see what happens lol

nothing changed from 52 to 53, but lower levels might have more significant changes idk

[cyan bone]

Hmm. Not going to devote time to leveling it now then

[vagrant mountain]

oh the cooking skill

it is only worth leveling for more coins from star talent

about 5k balloons I believe from 50 to 70

[fallen torrent]

wait

5k pêrson dmg from the royal worm quest on waves

what does it mean? 5k basic attacks??

bruhhhh thats longg

[grizzled elk]

star talent gives cash bonus per mk tier, doesn't give me much a huge coin bonus on wurms since I'm running midas and jawbreaker too, or maybe I'm just a bitch

[vagrant mountain]

the cooking star talent does not scale off Mk

[opaque sun]

the jawbreaker multiplicative is more important than the charon star talent additive

[grizzled elk]

read the wrong one lol my bad

its late and I've had too much nyquil

[grizzled elk]

yeah thats what I thought too

[vagrant mountain]

it's either use your balloons on cooking or worship lol

[grizzled elk]

or just save all your candy and balloons until you reeeeeally need them

[modern plaza]

cooking is where to put it rn

[grizzled elk]

and just end up with a stockpile

[modern plaza]

hudl

[vagrant mountain]

hodl*

[modern plaza]

u right

[vagrant mountain]

hold on don't let go

wagmi

[grizzled elk]

I really wonder how much I'm stunting my progress with my unhealthy hoarding habit

[shy flame]

Yeah, I try to do that, although I'm not at a point yet where I up alchemy through atoms, I just kinda know it's important and a huge part of what I need to work on. Context was just me being mildly incensed when I was trying to give advice to the best of my ability to someone whose main character is 350 but everyone else on their account was in like the 100s living in lab

[modern plaza]

one can not stunt that which is infinite

[vagrant mountain]

well technically...
stunt means to slow or hinder

[grizzled elk]

if you can at least atom the first one or two purple bubbles then focus on those, they roll into higher choppin samples which roll into higher atom gains, and so on

[grizzled elk]

I think you underestimate me

[shy flame]

I think I haven't unlocked atoming bubbles yet; I set the limit a lot higher to improve the vials that increase brewing speed

[modern plaza]

yes why are you saving the 95 weapon enchants, that could be a whole nother bank slot

[grizzled elk]

they just snuck their way in there, I have spare bank slots anyways

[viral snow]

U unlock them in the collider
And theyre atomable as soon as the required upgrade cost exceeds 100m

[modern plaza]

yes, 0.00000001*inf = inf

[shy flame]

oh that's neat, I have a ways to go for that but good to know

[placid mural]

Will the snail go past level one hundred for a chance at three letters a day?

[opaque sun]

for now, its just at 25 cap

[vagrant mountain]

that would only make sense if his progress speed was infinite

[placid mural]

Top bird reread my comment

[modern plaza]

u’r not already getting 4 a day!

[opaque sun]

You mean 101%+ does somthing? No

[placid mural]

So point leveling past 100

[opaque sun]

unless lava adds some import masteries

[grizzled elk]

well that sucks, I assumed it worked like larry does, 110% means 2 mail all the time and 10% chance at 3

[opaque sun]

lava kind of whimsical on those type of bonuses

More like larry is the only exception

[grizzled elk]

yeah none of his shit is consistent lol

[opaque sun]

May not be wise to talk too much about it or he’ll “made larry like the gild stamps and snails”

[stuck elbow]

havent gotten +3 yet, but ive only been over 100% for 2 days.

[grizzled elk]

I'm not quite over 100% yet, got reset too many times before the atom upgrade

[stuck elbow]

i reset from 19 to 15 today 😦

[grizzled elk]

awww

I've been at 14 for like a week

failing, thankfully without reset

[opaque sun]

I might just hoard like 100 mails and then spam click gamble so that i wont have to witness so many resets during the click spam

[modern plaza]

close your eyes and see where you land, like it

[opaque sun]

Open you eyes, just to see mouse moved a little and encouraged 100 times

[pearl cedar]

Will be the same difference open your eyes and you'll still be on 15

[opaque sun]

Snail gambling is more about how to mitigate psychological damage than mathematical efficiency

[opaque sun]

Still, thats just one failed psych damage than multiple psych damage

someone recently raged quit for a reset because he didnt instill proper damage control

[modern plaza]

yeah when you are on a far push, better to maintain it with certainty for awhile then to potentially risk it

[fast grail]

Fuck snail, have gotten reset 3 times from 14->15 upgrade thus far. Also fuck gaming in general.

[opaque sun]

If you do the hail mary 100-200 mails at once, at least your brain will remember that as one failure than 3-4 failures

[modern plaza]

big brain

[modern plaza]

that’s exactly why i always gamble with everything like my house and family

[opaque sun]

If you gamble for 5 years straight, its an addiction. If you gamble one time with 5 yrs worth of money, its “just one time”

[little abyss]

what to invest in first?

[fast grail]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[little abyss]

ty

[buoyant mural]

I upgraded Voidinator to lvl2 but his stats didn't change?

[opaque sun]

voidnator grows real slow per level

Like it doesnt reach the cost reduction cap like other towers even around lv50

[modern plaza]

my therapist tells me this all the time

[ebon bridge]

!gems

!gemshop

[ebon bridge]

uhh wait thats not the updated one

[dapper prism]

just use the guide sheet #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[little pagoda]

This is what happens when you are too lazy to do sample for 3 weeks

x30 samples is crazy

[noble nymph]

I need to resample but I'm just lazy, will probably do it after finishing onyx statues

[little pagoda]

I haven't fully finished onyx statues yet, skipped oceanman, w3 and w5

But after this sampling today account is gonna get so much better it will eventually be much easier to do that

Just gotta get through sampling on all characters first lol

[pearl cedar]

Be lazy

[little pagoda]

Even at max multiplier it would never be better than resampling for me lol, but I think at some point your samples are so hard to increase it's better to just let relic bonus go up

[pearl cedar]

I could resample now for probably about 4x so it's worth it for me, but meh

[prisma drift]

Is it worth the hours of time it will take

[pearl cedar]

Doesnt take hours if you dont worry about snapping

[prisma drift]

Gotta snap to barely scrape an hourly click

Or worse an every other hour click

[pearl cedar]

It is like a 1% bigger sample, there's 1% somewhere else you can get without snapping

[prisma drift]

My poor stamps

[pearl cedar]

Just do 1 more day of beans

[little pagoda]

For me it's easily taking 1 hour per character lol

Because I have just neglected doing lots of things that I'm just doing now before I sample

[pearl cedar]

Well that's why lol

[little pagoda]

Yeah but that was the plan anyway

Why do things when you can do them last minute

[pearl cedar]

Then next time it won't take as long maybe

[little pagoda]

Yeah I'm hoping so lol

[pearl cedar]

Only thing I really need to do before next sample is make new tools

[dapper prism]

Ohhh i just hit over 100k Godshards for the first time today 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/lzKjZho.png

[little pagoda]

Yeah I made new boots, new tools, did some post office levelling, levelled up skills with candies as needed, etc, just a slow process

[pearl cedar]

Requires so many pearls to get perfect rolled extra slot tool

[little pagoda]

That's the type of optimization I'm glad I don't need to worry about yet lol

[fast grail]

Simply just need to hit +12 goldly creation, +1 slot, and all of the kruk tool stones

[pearl cedar]

I'm not super worried about the +12 stats as it wouldnt add a ton to the sample

[fast grail]

Honestly that type of tool will be unholy to hit, it was pain enough getting the perfect gloves for bubo

Yeah, +1 slot would give more than the +12 stats anyways

[lavish grotto]

In divinity, should I go all mantra for all of my characters or do I put some on focus to get divinity points for bunny god

[zealous niche]

Depends on your goal, mantra to get to level 40 for tranqi is useful, but deity unlocks you’ll need a combo

[hollow wasp]

Can we still do this idle skilling crossover thingy?

[keen jewel]

Yep, I just finished mine today. Just enter the codes in w1 town chat

[hollow wasp]

How long does it took?

[opaque sun]

IS crossover is doable. You wont see the NPC in w1 town, but just type in the code at w1 town

[hollow wasp]

I have thousands of hours on phone, sadly has to restart on PC

[keen jewel]

It takes a bit of time but it's very worth it

[hollow wasp]

I had the game open once on steam I think, so I should have some few hundred hours idle progress it should speed it up a little

[opaque sun]

The real time gate is the hard day gated limit to enter code

[hollow wasp]

• I know how the game works

[opaque sun]

you usually finish IS side before the time gate to enter code

[hollow wasp]

What time gate

[keen jewel]

Takes days between code entries

[opaque sun]

Say after you enter the first code, idleon side says to wait X days to enter next code

[tough plaza]

which one in the w5 merit shop should i prioritize?

[opaque sun]

Same goes for each code step

To get the final reward on idleon, it takes lot of waiting on idleon side

IS side you can cough make your little brother use your computer and change time zones when he plays his game cough but idleon is strict time gated

[sacred verge]

lol

almost dont with IS, cant wait

[raven vale]

Is full Kat armour BIS for vman damage?

[opaque sun]

for damage? Magma wins for most things

Divine Helm, maybe depending on your other sources of total damage

[raven vale]

mhm, i have the mats to make it but torn between the all stats and DR etc

[opaque sun]

Full kattle is generally weaker than magma, but as a trade-off has unique utility misc stats

[raven vale]

mm

[opaque sun]

If you dont care utility, magma tends to have more pure power

Kattle is a sidegrade, not an upgrade

usually you use vman for its DR, not damage

[raven vale]

i'm doing speedrun again, was leaning towards the damage but yeah the stats for efficency is always good

[opaque sun]

Liek 5-10% more damage during a speed run isnt really going to get you another portal

[raven vale]

need some mad prints

true that, probs better to level some meals instead

i also have to clear Nightmare kruk on him so ugh

[opaque sun]

Speed run score is mostly dependent on talent levels (run duration) and multikill %

[raven vale]

i can't get much better without divinity levels

[opaque sun]

damage and respawn isnt really tied to the score as much unless you like using curse of looty

[raven vale]

nah, no looty, enough DR without tbh

[near timber]

My VMAN has waaaaaay less damage than my other characters and I don’t get why…

[opaque sun]

Like thats normal

He should be roughly 1/10 of other classes due to not getting any color bonuses from bubbles and few class specific bubbles not applying the beginner class

Beginner secret class is designed to be weaker in pure power, but traded that for more family wide utility/support

If its 1/1000 weaker than others, then yeah maybe an issue

[dapper prism]

Any non-dooters. How does unlinking div work now with 2 unlinks? is it essentially just the exact same as it used to be with 1 link but now just, twice?

• Both cooldowns reset on weekly?
• Both cooldowns reset on new god unlink?

Ty

[raven vale]

IIRC yes its the same just 2 unlinks. Weekly reset

[fast grail]

Not sure how it was for unlocking gods/god rank, but both reset on weekly reset

[opaque sun]

weekly resets gives 2 reset charges. New god also gives 2 reset charges. Cant carry more than 2 charges

[mild merlin]

Still no fauxory tusk 😔

[dapper prism]

Tyvm all 🙂

[zenith cape]

Is there a vman point distribution thing? I just got vman

[uneven violet]

Watch YouTube tutorial

[opaque sun]

Max top row for speed runs, max bottom row for normal usage. By the time you have points to spare into middle row you should know how stuff works

[dapper prism]

Also get checkmate in maestro tab for more talent points.

[opaque sun]

The top right vman talent is an exception that effectively counts like a bottom row talents

[zenith cape]

Thanks for the help guys

[raven vale]

Do we have a Lab chips tier list/suggested layouts for skilling/fighting

[smoky sorrel]

hey

Can someone tell me what the best thing to buy at the gem shop

in w4 , w5

[dapper prism]

Following the guide sheet recommendation is pretty decent
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[worthy shoal]

Not updated

[worthy shoal]

Here is the updated one

[frigid acorn]

this thing gonna take 2more weeks to see

[raven vale]

level 8 is impressive lol

Still trying to unlock last W3 pet and half of W4

[dapper prism]

Here's the higher quality updated # Gemshop Tierlist tier Pic
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738868424813445172/1103690013125902336/tonysgemshoptierlistv4.png

[smoky sorrel]

Thanks guys

[worthy shoal]

Nice, didn't know this better quality existed

[spring yarrow]

oh my godddd

[fast grail]

An archer? Not critting? huh? Also seems like a damage issue.

[dapper prism]

Looks like you overleveled your plunderous talent. Not efficienty at all, if you're struggling like that, place a max of 1 point into it tbh

[cyan pond]

What kind of damage is needed for nighmare kruk?

[eager sedge]

50B~ on sheet

[dapper prism]

Depends on class, but 20-50b

20 would be like the bare minimum and will take some time. although not really hard on someone like DK as he can fully afk.
Whereas on other classes like vman/bb even 50b is annoying and "slow"

[spring yarrow]

pirate flag or plunder ye deceased?

[dapper prism]

the talent that says more hp

[raven vale]

the one the increases the HP

[spring yarrow]

Ah okay, let me respec

[opaque sun]

Archer has a long time bug of bow normal attacks cant mega crit

[granite grove]

and odds are he might overlook that bug when w6 comes out

[clear quartz]

i have a semi smooth brain idea of how i wanna handle these w3 statues. gonna have ES active and my 2 sbs afk on them, probably inefficient use of characters but sb seems to afk farm rares pretty well. second wont be nearly as good as first but yeah. otherwise theyll be working on just gmush or lab/div stuff i guess

[opaque sun]

since everyone does 10m damage, the mega not-critting bow bug is less apparent

Only way for people to see it is probably against random event bosses of pink numbers

[lost depot]

Even farming the basic kattleruk cards takes so long wtf

[opaque sun]

Kattle has 1/1250 base card chance, while troll got 1/250

[lost depot]

This is going to take hours

[opaque sun]

Its just bad base rate

[timber glacier]

Whats your full build? My VW is so far off what you have 😓

[raven vale]

talents?

[timber glacier]

Yeah

[raven vale]

Almost everything is max at 245
i follow this usually but i've boosted the talent points from alchemy quite a bit so i almost max it all

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

[dapper prism]

There's really not much to vman.

Like, he's easy to max all tab 4 talents besides stats which you dont need to max

[raven vale]

pretty much

[dapper prism]

Like, you max str/wis/agi, then level the stuff on your other alts. then back to vman and reset those again

just best to make sure your alts have 245's in tab 3/4 on the mainstat books so you never need to worry about it again

[raven vale]

true that, still WIP

[timber glacier]

Yeah I've deffo got some ways to go 😅 - Ty

[dapper prism]

I also usually dont like that guide as it's very rough when it just says "max X>Y>Z as would that mean you get 0 points in it before or not. a bunch feels a bit ehh

Good basic on priority i guess but besides that its a little rough

[safe tangle]

How many fish statues do you guys get per hour?

[raven vale]

yeah, its not great if you're already W5 or have deceny Symbols etc

[raven vale]

just shy of 2H

thats Vman, not SB

[safe tangle]

What drop rate you got?

[raven vale]

10x

[safe tangle]

Only getting 50 ph on vman with 10x

[raven vale]

SB

9.82x

[opaque sun]

its mostly tool swing speed, afk gain and dr

so class doesnt matter much for catching when farming statues

[safe tangle]

Gonna take forever to get the 20k

[lost depot]

Some people candied it

If you can candy it in like 500 hours its probably worth it

But clicking 500 hours of candy is pain so..

[dapper prism]

500h ?!

wtf

As topbird said.. have you checked your toolspeed?

[magic oyster]

Speaking of clicking things and pain - what to do with exp balloons ? 8)

[dapper prism]

Lvl 50 cooking on all (early on fishing levels on alts to get to 30ish easier*)

[lost depot]

Don't they also work on trapping?

[opaque sun]

you can if you really behind on it

[jagged finch]

Is full kruk armor best or should I mix it with magma, I mean only helmet seems like dmg boost, overall all stats should be better, right? or anything else should I upgrade to kruk?

[dapper prism]

Moved my vman away from mining quickly to check.. definetely gotta setup more stuff:
https://i.imgur.com/iybWK1C.png

its like 180ish if i dont have an event piece on me.

[bronze steppe]

Hello, can anyone tell me how to use the world's 5 time-accelerating candies?

[dapper prism]

You cant use candy in w5

[opaque sun]

if the misc stat applies to the task of the character, kattle. Else magma

[lost depot]

Not sure tbh, I think they're best used right at the start to get early bonuses

[bronze steppe]

There is no way ?

[lost depot]

Like unlocking islands etc

[opaque sun]

Kattle is overall weaker than magma, but some tasks you dont care damage (more specifically excessive damage) and even a single dr wins over in those cases

[finite sparrow]

What is better for mining samples? Going from like 10k hp to 25k or gaining 100 str?

[dapper prism]

No, that's what "you can't" means 👀
Highest worlds cant be candied until the next world comes. So once W6 will be released (no clue yet when) then we will most likely be able to candy w5, but not w6

[dapper prism]

Why not quickly try them both?

[opaque sun]

Its intentional cuz lava hates when people finish his new content in 10 min using candies

[finite sparrow]

I'm not mentally capable of such task

[opaque sun]

Like why not have both HP and str

[lost depot]

If those are hp/STR totals then not much difference from either

[opaque sun]

Like you can have both worlds, why worry

[finite sparrow]

You can't when you're level 128

[bronze steppe]

ok, thank you, I only asked because I saw a paid site before where it was supposed to be unlocked by paying! in addition, all package offers could be purchased, even in-game money and other things, and I was surprised that I can't find it anywhere, and it would have made it easier to kill 3-6 M MOBs

[opaque sun]

you mean wondering which talent to invest in?

[bronze steppe]

but thanks for the answers then I'll wait for the time to pass

[viral snow]

Its scam

[lost depot]

Don't buy stuff from anywhere except ingame

It's fake

[bronze steppe]

👍

[finite sparrow]

I wouldn't be saying that here either lol

[opaque sun]

What kind of scam you fall into

[solid epoch]

only way to speed up w5 is through the gaming fertilizer for gaming, or bottle of wind for sailing. i wouldnt recommend buying either of those from the gem shop tho

[opaque sun]

im surprised someone tries to scam money saying “i can make you use candies in w5”, like such a niche product

[paper mist]

im currently looking at nearly 10 days to unlock the next map from Lampars, am i doing something wrong or are the portal kill requirements just that insane in the second half of W5?

[opaque sun]

just overall low damage (stat) due to not back tracking w1-w4 stuff

[prisma drift]

I didn’t push w5 till I was multikilling

[opaque sun]

common symptom of those who just rushed to w5 and continued on

[timber glacier]

How do you break the movement speed cap?

[prisma drift]

I rushed w5 in a month but stopped as soon as I hit the town

Spent a month back tracking lol

[opaque sun]

There isnt really cap for move speed

[timber glacier]

175% seems to be a cap, no?
I see a lot of my characetrs on it

[opaque sun]

If you mean the move speed chip, you just dont have enough move speed to graduate from the chip

[tacit tulip]

Statues and movement speed food, primarily

Speed caps at 350% because the game breaks if you go higher. Speed themed bonuses continue past 350

[tacit tulip]

A lot of buffs, but not all, cap at 175. You need to break past 175 using other buffs

[opaque sun]

you just have low natural move speed and need to rely in the speed chip

Statue farming is a major source of speed

And also use speed potions

[tacit tulip]

food with buffs to food is the primary way to go zoom

[finite sparrow]

How do you even have that high damage at lampars?

[prisma drift]

I want the mint choco

[finite sparrow]

I have less than half of your dmg and i'm at lampars

[opaque sun]

high…? Rushers these days

[finite sparrow]

His lowest damage is higher than my max damage

[eager sedge]

im at lampars too

[timber glacier]

Even with food in slot I don't break 175%

[prisma drift]

Good dmg

[opaque sun]

When its not doing multikill, 1/2 damage isnt really a big difference

[timber glacier]

Like I'm at 175% just kinda naturally, but that's it

[eager sedge]

Ty working on getting to 1B on bubo rn

[tacit tulip]

I bring this up a lot but this is a problem with the community not the individual

All the way through w 1,2,3,4 the questions channels will tell you to rush next world asap as it's the best way to get stronger.

They are, of course, correct. it IS the best way to get stronger.

The issue is that noone tells the user to stop pushing when they get here, so the newbs wall hard at #currentworld and then it's our job to set them straight

[timber glacier]

And then this guy is at 377% 😓

[eager sedge]

and unlocking the last bubbles

[paper mist]

wait thats high??? i thought it was low????

[finite sparrow]

So how do i get good

[opaque sun]

Goes to w5, havent learned how to upgrade w1-w4 skills so continues on to push through w5

[eager sedge]

Alchemy

[finite sparrow]

Next alchemy bubble is too expensive

[tacit tulip]

Printing (to raise alchemy) primarily

[paper mist]

any recommendations? ive been focusing on the XP bubble for a few weeks

[tacit tulip]

Pick easy things to print, level the bubble, use discounts

Nblb will upgrade harder bubbles

Like salt and soups

...souls

[eager sedge]

Get ur mining,chopping,fishing,catching to 300% multi

[raven vale]

i love my soup bubbles

[dapper prism]

Do your daily CC's

[eager sedge]

Every half hour ccs

[finite sparrow]

Can only use it once a day right

[eager sedge]