lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[paper sail]

Depends on class. DK can't respawn Sandcastles super fast, so they are slower than Sandy Pots for DK specifically

[brazen cliff]

Active ES for 20k statue grinding is yucky. Blows DK out of the water but still gonna take a solid 3 days on each and even with a tiny resized window it chugs frames and pushes my midnight clock a huge amount

[sterile crescent]

Exactly thats what i was unsure about ^^

[static zinc]

how long will this take with 12 dr

[pastel bramble]

101% soon hoping for triple mail

[paper sail]

ES is more about the damage than the DR, but.. a long time.

[static zinc]

pain

[errant sluice]

what are you going for?

[paper sail]

I assumed Bullseye statues. Of note, better to farm those at Wood Shrooms if you're going active ES

[errant sluice]

you should do it with DK not ES

cause its in a drop bag

no?

[static zinc]

no

[errant sluice]

well thank god i havent started bullseye statue yet haha

[surreal oxide]

DK for crystal, ES for regular mob drops right?

[brazen cliff]

I goofed and did active nuttos for bullseye. Took me ~3 days

[paper sail]

Being "inside a bag" isn't the deciding factor. It is whether that "bag" aka loot table is on the Crystal for that world or not.

[errant sluice]

alrighty thx

[static zinc]

my damage is dodo

[wicked cobalt]

Is there anything specific I should do after unlocking rabbit god, or not? Cuz atm I'm basically leaving all characters to divinity and not doing anything else

[brazen cliff]

My dmg is also poo, just have to stay on top of doing the dozen things each day that add that 5%

[clear quartz]

interestingly i seem to be having a decent time farming w3 drops with ES, fully expected with how bullseyes were going id hate w3 but its pretty comparable so far. so like 2 days for each statue, ish

[prisma drift]

I just dropped like 1000 hours in candy

[untold saffron]

on what

[clear quartz]

i havent decided where im gonna use the bulk of my candy. guess im planning on trying to spam it on SB and combo with forge stuff. maybe some light death noting

[untold saffron]

i used my candy to eclipse W4 & 3

and super chow that stupid acorn in the roots

[clear quartz]

oh rofl, i forgot that acorn is its own thing huh

[untold saffron]

I liked using candy on eclipse skulls and super chows because it has a definitive end point compared to like gmush

[brazen cliff]

I think I could burn around 650 hours per box. Very tempting to save a week

[clear quartz]

i should work on superchows here soon, waiting on div reset so i can pull bb away from the lab. at least he will be able to make xp remotely

[prisma drift]

The w3 statues

I was replying to him saying he was active farming them

[clear quartz]

right? plenty to burn too.... hmm

[signal osprey]

Candy is definitely the answer to the W3 statues

Its an infinite resource whereas active farming is limited to 24 hours per day

Anything that can be candied should be candied so you save your precious active time for things that can only be done active

[clear quartz]

then i can go back to doing other things, like farming statues on NOT elemental sucksoror

[brazen cliff]

My ES wrecks my game speed and pretty sure box farming for a week means I'm going to lose 1-3 days of daily reset progress.

[signal osprey]

Even more reason to candy the W3 statues

[clear quartz]

400 statues/hr active vs like.... 9 per candy, ick

[tacit tulip]

If you cloud save once or twice a day you get the lost time as afk gains without messing your daily reset

I've never figured it out exactly but the daily reset losses -seem- to be if you go a long time without cloud saving

Like, hit two daily resets without saving and the second reset becomes your new reset time

[brazen cliff]

I'm 16 per candy. Not as good as I thought. More like 1200 hr of candy

[clear quartz]

im curious if id be better off putting all drop stuff on SB if im just gonna candy, might have some better results that way

[tacit tulip]

If you're gonna candy, doing that with SB or vman would be better due to the higher DR yeah

Respawn, and afk% are essential too

[clear quartz]

gonna test that out real quick, see if either are acceptable

[static zinc]

me to

[mild merlin]

Since I got nobi should I just get my guys off div for now?the next gods seem to outscale how much div points I get by quite alot

[twin token]

So the factors of how fast u can farm statues are dr, attack speed, Crystal chance, move speed, orb level, and whether you can one shot?

[twin token]

Don't get off div untill you get purrmep

Get a couple of div sparkles if u haven't alr and upgrade ur gods

[mild merlin]

I'll probably leave some of my guys there,just gonna take off most of them

And yeah I'm trying to get the first two blessings uo

Oh and yeah I don't have any div sparkles,only thing from w5 gemshop i have rn is sprinker

[twin token]

Yeah try to leave as many ppl on as possible so u can get to purrmepp as fast as possible

[clear quartz]

12/hr on sb so far, havent figured out the best balance between drop and afk stuff

[sand hamlet]

How do i do Kattlecrucks 6th quest, where you kill chaotic K. In under 30 secs. I dont think i do quite enough dmg, so hoq can i boost that up some more?

[spring raptor]

If you're close, you could try boost food. Bullets or the cookie. If you're not, alchemy or stamps might close the gap a bit. Or just levels and upgrade skills.

[rustic garnet]

What's a good amount of statues per hour from mining?

[modern plaza]

what is the longest statue to get?

[iron mesa]

w3 ones

[modern plaza]

dang and there is 3 of them xD

[rustic garnet]

Is this good?

Or crap (this is on an SB)

looking to work on the 100k statue quest

[true obsidian]

other 4 statues really have low drop ratio than first 2 statues...

[spring raptor]

Sure do.

[open lichen]

Hi guys, anyone know why the XP/hr gain on Seasalt Island is lower when using candy compared to what's showing in AFK gains tab?

for fishing

I am only getting 25% of the amount shown

[manic moat]

what is your afk gains rate?

[loud cedar]

If I have the golden sprinkler do I still need this?

[manic moat]

looks like you lack efficiency

I believe those fish are purple

[open lichen]

But shouldn't the XP/hr reflect that?

[manic moat]

try using that prayer to increase eff and see if you get more exp

[eager sedge]

the zone is not accurate even more when u barely have 50k efficiency

[cinder cliff]

yes, helps your golden recharge fasdter

[loud cedar]

Alright ty 😊

[manic moat]

golden sprinkler just gives you a chance to be able to reuse it again. It would benefit you to increase the sprinkler

[loud cedar]

Ty for the info

[open lichen]

OK I got to Yellow and the XP doubled

So looks like its eff related. Thanks!

[eager sedge]

[rough wasp]

finally redoing my prints and got my copper from 4.8 to 25m

[solemn spire]

what's the most efficient way to gain worship levels for my maestro?

[tacit tulip]

Use Crystal cooldown
Stack exp gains
Spam worships on the best exp/charge ratio worship you can

[humble valve]

get the highest waves you can and check idleon efficiency for the best xp per charge and just spam that

[signal osprey]

The fastest way short term is to do ccd and then use balloons. Vman worship is the best use of balloons after cooking

[hollow osprey]

does it matter which offering i go for?

[mild merlin]

A good way to is to spam the left one till you get 50/100% on the right one for a guarantee

Also how/why tf do you have that much div without unlocking first god

[hollow osprey]

i was away for 2 days so i just put all chars on div

[tacit tulip]

technically no - the odds to cost ratio is the same for all offerings

Every time you attemp[t the game rerolls the elft/right slots

Left can be 1/5/10%, right can be 25/50/100%

Most people spam left until they get a 100% on right, at which point they click the right

[hollow osprey]

and this

[hollow osprey]

alright ty

[tacit tulip]

sorry if my typing sucks I just got back from holiday

forgotten how to use my keyboard

[hollow osprey]

npnp i understood without any problems what you mean

unlocked 3 gods

[tacit tulip]

the second god, bear, is probably the most useful to you right now

[hollow osprey]

bear was the one with lab right

[tacit tulip]

yeah

it gives you the benefits of being in lab without restricting you to it

[hollow osprey]

i would say my main pusher nobi, the others bear?

[eager sedge]

U want goat on every1 else after but yeah

[tacit tulip]

ye eventually goat to level lab/div at the same time

[eager sedge]

[hollow osprey]

alright ty, i'll stick with that until i unlock goat then

when should i go for unlocking vman? have to level up my mman still

[eager sedge]

Depends is ur k/h in w3 good enough to get 1M kills relative fast?

[hollow osprey]

on my mman or my main?

[eager sedge]

Main(berseker if u can)

[hollow osprey]

have to check it give me 2 min, my main is currently ES, k/h on my bb is way lower

[eager sedge]

i see

U want to do the kills with zerker since they will count as chows which help a lot with cooking

[hollow osprey]

oh well

on my ES it's like 15-20k for w3

[eager sedge]

Hmm i see

15k at bloodbones?

[hollow osprey]

bloodbones?

[eager sedge]

u need to kill those too

[hollow osprey]

which portal are they? i'm not sure if i hhave them unlocked

[eager sedge]

At staches

The 100k portal is rams

Next one is bloodbones

[hollow osprey]

oh well have to unlock them then

[eager sedge]

Yeah u do

[hollow osprey]

so well what should i do rn?

[fervent brook]

Only Two more ES statues to onyx.

[eager sedge]

so close

[eager sedge]

I would say chill for a bit do some gaming,sailing get some bonuses increase ur damage

[hollow osprey]

so no divinity for now?

[eager sedge]

Divinity is just afk

[vagrant mountain]

the answer is usually alchemy and stamps

[eager sedge]

U let the characters in altar unlock goat move them to lab

also for sailing

The sb has a skill that turns chests when ur pile is full

Don t use that

0 points in that

don t even look at it

and u want captains with speed

[hollow osprey]

alright

[eager sedge]

lots of speed

[hollow osprey]

so divinity until i have goat, then lab, and when should i start with sailing?

[eager sedge]

sailing is afk too

Just put boats in first island

[fervent brook]

Only do it if you have doot/sheep and are gone for more than a day lol. Otherwise that SB skill is bad

[eager sedge]

upgrade ur boats sail to other islands get artifacts and so on

[hollow osprey]

i'm a bit lost rn, should i put some characters in div and some in sailing or focus on div for now?

[vagrant mountain]

you don't put characters in sailing

?

[hollow osprey]

oh well

[eager sedge]

U dont put characters in sailing just assign boats to islands

search a youtube vid that explains sailing i recomend nocturn gaming

Look for every skill in w5 sailing,gaming,divinity

[hollow osprey]

alright i will ty

[eager sedge]

he explains very well

[vagrant mountain]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

will help you learn basics of w5 skills

lots of good pins too in this chat

[true obsidian]

Behold! The RNG God!!!!!!

[little pagoda]

Oh wow 10 rounds, does the game end or can you go infinitely?

[thorn marsh]

does DK's bits bonus stack?

[little pagoda]

Nah those kind of account wide bonuses from talents never stack

[thorn marsh]

ah, gotcha

cheers

[cinder cliff]

jesus, i just got it a week or 2 ago and still havent gotten past round 3

[hollow osprey]

ty

so i shouldn't go for vman now?

[little pagoda]

If you pay attention to where the skulls are before you have to choose, it's fairly easy to get to 4 or 5, after that you just have to hope for the best

As long as you click away from any carda adjacent to skulls in the first rounds, you should be fine

[signal osprey]

Even if you dont pay attention to the skulls it doesnt matter because the skulls are an illusion

[little pagoda]

They're definitely not an illusion

[signal osprey]

Its just a % chance to succeed or fail regardless of the card you click

Its literally coded as an rng check

THe minigame aspect is fluff

[little pagoda]

Ok where's the code?

it's not an illusion of choice scenario

The skulls move my 1 (or don't move) every step of the way

If you click away from skulls in the first rounds you always flip a star

[signal osprey]

Yeah thats because the first rounds just have a high success chance regardless

I click the same card every time without moving the mous

And I get multiple successes every time

[little pagoda]

But after there's like 3 or 4 skulls almost all places can have a skull

[signal osprey]

Thats because the skulls dont matter

[lavish quiver]

The skulls that show when spinning definitely are not where they actually are

[little pagoda]

Because they move 1 more time before you get to choose

But they can't move to any place

[hollow osprey]

when should i start going for vman guys?

[little pagoda]

As soon as it's feasible

[hollow osprey]

well my k/h on mman are quite low

[signal osprey]

Its literally just rng. You can turn off your monitor and your average log will be the same as if you try to intentionally game the system

[little pagoda]

If you can feasibly get 1m kills on every w1-w3 mob then do it

[little pagoda]

Disagree but ok

[lavish quiver]

If they move one more time after spinning then watching them still would be pointless

[little pagoda]

No because they can only move by 1

[hollow osprey]

hm i'm not sure about that, my ES is on like 15-20k on w3 mobs

[signal osprey]

Theres nothing to even disagree on

Its not a matter of opinion

It was literally made that way by lava

[vagrant mountain]

I only ever click the bottom left card and I have gotten 2 days from it

[lavish quiver]

How do you know this then over Contract knowing what he said? do you have code?

[signal osprey]

Its an illusion of choice

And you're hallucinating hard my guy

[vagrant mountain]

the log cards are not real

[hasty harness]

wait, what is that?

[little pagoda]

Nope, I have the same evidence as anyone else which is just a few dozen plays

I have never flipped a skull when I clicked away from all skulls

[lavish quiver]

Extremely small sample size

[little pagoda]

Every time I flip a skull it's a card that was adjacent to a skull

[vagrant mountain]

if you intentionally click on cards with skulls, you won't hit them

[signal osprey]

Nobody else is saying its rng based on just playing it

[little pagoda]

Exactly

[signal osprey]

There are people who dig through lavas code like its their job

[hollow osprey]

that's not enough ig? @little pagoda

[signal osprey]

And the assertion that its rng is based on that

[little pagoda]

Unless there are 2 adjacent skulls, then you might

[signal osprey]

Sample size is irrelevant

[lavish quiver]

Meaning i wouldnt be so confident in what you tell people off a small sample size that you have

[little pagoda]

Yeah it's pretty slow, focus on getting a bit higher damage/multikill/afk gains

[hollow osprey]

alright

[rustic garnet]

I don't disagree that you think this and maybe even truly experienced it. It's simply not true though, as I've done the same thing and clicked on a skull numerous times

[vagrant mountain]

it literally doesn't matter what card you click on, the minigame is a lie

[little pagoda]

Yeah I agree, I don't have evidence lol, but until I see evidence of the contrary I will keep doing what is working for me

[little pagoda]

Well I don't think so but ok

[rustic garnet]

everyone here is providing you a very strong position against your point, but you can do what you want

[vagrant mountain]

ok we can just agree to disagree, it doesn't really affect me what you do

[signal osprey]

Why do you think that your opinion is even relevant when this is something based in facts

Like this isnt some moral dilemma its literally computer code

Theres no place for opinions

[rustic garnet]

just a caveat for everyone else reading, Orlando has no basis for that, and everyone else is in agreement that it is entirely random and has no bearing

[little pagoda]

Bro I know it's either it's true or it's not true, I'm not saying it's a matter of opinion, I'm just saying looking at how it works, it doesn't seem to be an illusion of choice thing

[rustic garnet]

I just did the minigame and clicked on the top right card, not next to a skull, and got a skull

[signal osprey]

But it is an illusion

You saying it doesnt seem like one is literally the illusion

You're seeing something that isnt true

Thats the definition of an illusion

[little pagoda]

Ok I will pay closer attention and see, it's ok if I'm wrong lol

[vagrant mountain]

I forgot who it was, but someone recorded the cards and replayed frame by frame to guarantee he chose non skull cards and still got skull cards

[little pagoda]

But it really doesn't seem like the skulls can be anywhere, the last position, at least so far, seems to matter

[rustic garnet]

nope

[lavish quiver]

Right and if i click the handle of the shovel in gaming i get a bigger nugget ... kinda what this sounds like

[little pagoda]

Yes, the position shifts before you get to choose, that I agree, but I don't think it shifts to any position, I think there is a set ammount of ways it can shift

[rustic garnet]

that's the illusion

each position of skulls are entirely random

[rough wasp]

Finally finished with my prints

[little pagoda]

Hold B when throwing the pokeball to increase chance of catching a pokemon lol

[vagrant mountain]

I think the card flipping animation is just an animation and it rolls the card when you pick one

[rustic garnet]

The only change with each level is you get an extra skull added

[hollow osprey]

@little pagoda how high should my k/h be for vman and which class should i use for farming the dn kills

[rustic garnet]

and each flip over of the cards shows 1, 2, 3, 4... etc number of skulls, up to a max of all but 1 being a skull

[little pagoda]

ES for farming death note, with the multikill talent maxed, for maestro kills it depends on how much time/candy you're wiling to spend

[hollow osprey]

alright ty, how high should k/h be on my ES and how can i push it a bit faster?

[little pagoda]

I don't disagree that might be the case, but I think the shuffle is not a true shuffle, it's just switching cards with other adjacent cards. I will pay more attention and see if I'm wrong

[true obsidian]

iirc, chance to fail = round, round 1 = 10%, round 5 = 50% so round 10 = 100% chance to fail

[little pagoda]

If you can get clammie and sugma cards for more multikill and damage cards for more damage that helps, also farm fighting afk gain cards and book all talents as high as you can

[little pagoda]

Huh

Those chances seem low tbh

But if it's 1 more skull every round, then yeah

Assuming it really is truly random

[signal osprey]

That would imply that the existence of the skull is relevant though

If its just a % fail chance then there could be no skulls

Like you're fixated on the skulls when they dont actually matter

You click a card and the game rolls a % chance to win or lose

And you're given a silly little card animation based on the outcome of that roll

[little pagoda]

Well I do think at LEAST the card is rolled before you click lol

But if the shuffle is random every single time then it might as well roll after you pick a card since you have no information (I still think you do have some information but agree to disagree)

[hollow wasp]

do i get a bonus from this already when i discover it?

how long does it take to convert 10m resources to 1 particle?

[manic moat]

once you get 10m above your set cap

[little pagoda]

It's instant after it goes over cap

[hollow wasp]

i have 1 greenstack, i cant even find it

i wanna know what and if its over 15m

[manic moat]

you get to set it

[hollow wasp]

have it like this

idk if i have any resource to 15m

[vagrant mountain]

probably shouldn't worry about atoms yet

[manic moat]

so once you have it at 25m it will make 1 particle

[hollow wasp]

the first one is 1 atom, isnt it worth?

[manic moat]

it's still ok to learn how it works

[vagrant mountain]

it gives you 1% stamp discount per day for 1 atom

[hollow wasp]

oh

[vagrant mountain]

it will make more sense when you're able to print more than 10m an hour

[fervent brook]

I assume you should only put contruction obols on active DK correct? And you should only check contructuon on DK as well?

[vagrant mountain]

drop rate obols on DK

construction obols on your other DK/BB and then snapshot

[fervent brook]

Don't the contruction obols only work actively (just need to snapshot)

[elfin flicker]

oh fuck no. I just discovered that you can scroll the boats and buy more than 5. wasted weeks jesus christ

[sick sentinel]

Can snap on afk warrior if you hqve obols on them, check cons cogs pqge for it to update, then swap to active dk. As long as you dont refresh map or look at cogs page you hqve the boost from obols

[errant sluice]

does anyone know the money dr breakpoints?

[eager sedge]

Every odd number

5-7-9

And so on

[vagrant mountain]

money is 1/2 drop

[vestal delta]

is 50m the max boat speed you'll need to hit minimum time for the final island? or is it 100m?

[dapper prism]

Money DR Breakpoints
https://i.imgur.com/VzDfcPg.png

[dapper prism]

50m

[vestal delta]

thanks!

[grizzled elk]

after adjusting for minimum sailing time, I thought it was around 60m?

[dapper prism]

Ah right, although a bit late when u get to sub 100min time, I guess that's true

[hollow osprey]

when should i use gaming fertilizer/bottled wind?

[clear quartz]

ive saved bottled wind for when im working on island unlocks, but fartilizer i use whenever i have more than an 8 hour stretch to next game play segment

[hollow osprey]

well i'm new to w5 so i think i should safe them for later on?

[clear quartz]

probably yes

[dapper prism]

Yes

[hollow osprey]

alright ty

[dapper prism]

Else your lootpile will be too small to really bring as much benefit imo

[plain sentinel]

someone school me on sailing
so even if you have a bunch of boats you should only use a few that are your best, right?
because the bad boats would waste loot pile slots?

[dapper prism]

No, you usually use all your boats

But you can plan out their destination, you want your fastest boats going to the high(er) islands
And slow boats to low islands

[hollow osprey]

how can i push k/h fast? want to start working on unlocking vman then but k/h is way too low would take long

[dapper prism]

You don't want to work your way from left to right or you will bottleneck yourself

Also depending how long youre gone, REMOVE SB Tab 4 talent 11. If you check sailing multiple times a day. If only once, then keep that talent

[twin token]

Wait does it negatively affect sailing if u have it on?

[hollow osprey]

anyone can help?

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[twin token]

Oh I don't reach cap ever tho

[dapper prism]

Usually always the same. Alchemy, stamps.
Other things would be stuff like Eclipse

[plain sentinel]

won't the bad boats busy up a loot pile slot? I must be misunderstanding something here
my best boat is 325k/1.8mil, so I am now going back to get ancient/eldritch arti while waiting on speed to boost boat 1 to last 4 islands
I check probably every 6-10 hours but even then when I proc sailing on other players my loot pile completely fills up

[twin token]

Eclipse for unlocking vman? Lol

[dapper prism]

For damage

[hollow osprey]

which stamps/alchemy bubbles should i focus on for pushing k/h

[twin token]

How are they gonna use eclipse if they don't have vman tho lol

[dapper prism]

My main thought initially was just getting MK higher

like get everything to 5m kills etc. Then my brain went to eclipse (for dmg too) xD

[twin token]

Lol

[dapper prism]

You're refering to the 12m Gmush vman quest, right?

[hollow osprey]

the 1m w1-w3 and the 12m gmush, both tbh

[misty spindle]

Do death note bonuses from one world count for all the others?

[dapper prism]

Eclipse dmg does, not MK/tier as those are based on worlds

You can also see your % on toolbox

[stuck pasture]

Well that’s my highest log score so far, bottom right club ftw 😂

[dapper prism]

If you're struggling on the 1m kill stuff then a lot of everything.
I assume you don't have w5 bubbles unlocked yet either?

[hollow osprey]

w1/w2 shouldnt be a problem on the 1m kill thing but at w3 my k/h is around 15-20k

[misty spindle]

very expensive, cant get it too high

[hollow osprey]

and nop i don't have the w5 bubbles, quite unlucky on new bubbles

[dapper prism]

Do you ever use your bubo for CC?

[misty spindle]

if youre using ES you can do even W3 in a week max

[hollow osprey]

heard i shouldn't use him until my cloud 1hits

[hollow osprey]

i'm on ES

[dapper prism]

You should still do daily CC's

[hollow osprey]

alright i will

[dapper prism]

Even if your CC only hits 30-40k seconds that would still be a 10h skip in alchemy brewing

[misty spindle]

for me its like 2k, 9k max when I used event items for spawning

[hollow osprey]

alright i'll do a bit cc then ty

[dapper prism]

or 10k seconds a 3h skip 😄
An extra 3h a day is still "something" and if it's anything really less than you havn't focused on anything that helps your CC

[hollow osprey]

i'll check my cc in 5 min

[tall horizon]

technically more, since everyone has some min reduction

[hollow osprey]

well my bubo is just lvl 95

[tall horizon]

lmao, should of read more. That was mentioned, ignore me

My discord just stopped on that message and I was lazy

[dapper prism]

No worries, i do the same thing sometimes, when disc doesnt scroll down xD

Suddenly one ends up replying to a message from 4h ago that's gotten replies left and right

[tall horizon]

Yup lol. No idea why, but my discord has started returning to my most recent ping, no matter how old it is or if i've already read it. Very annoying

[hollow osprey]

how can i check how much progress my CC did?

[tall horizon]

It shows over your characters head when it ends

[hollow osprey]

does it matter at which w i use it?

[dapper prism]

Some basic info
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[hollow osprey]

ty

[bold quiver]

how can iget this cap?

ops its 416M only

my max is 279M, no idea how to almost double it

[glacial venture]

i see 4160m

[bold quiver]

yes but its 416M that i wanna know

so i need to get my mason jars to lvl 200?

[hollow osprey]

1,8k seconds alchemy progress bruh

[bold quiver]

dear lord

[dapper prism]

What location?
Now it also comes down to setting everything up right

[glacial venture]

1.8k seconds is 30 minutes

[bold quiver]

mason jar to 200 is gonna take so long

[hollow osprey]

staches

[bold quiver]

and that will only allow my 1 upgrade on that talent, cuz then its gonna get worse than 400M

will probably go to 600M

[dapper prism]

Here some basic how to get it a bit better. #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1125251335164534804/bubosetup.png

[tacit tulip]

Extra note: Setup your map before equipping CC

if you're only doing it once a day you want things "going" before you use it

[dapper prism]

^ or just manually first (until gas is everywhere)

[hybrid halo]

Rez first gives me more CC progress on tremor wurms

[hollow osprey]

ty

[tacit tulip]

otherwise you lose out a bunch when setting up

[hollow osprey]

how often can i use CC per day?

[hybrid halo]

No limit

[dapper prism]

Depends, if you're just doing it daily or not, and tente level etc.

Later on 1 full CC cycle with removing the 65k+ second cooldown will only take less than 14-15 minutes

Thats 4 times an hour

Not a day xD

yes

Later on you get 100+ hour (360k second) skips, every 15 minutes.

[hollow osprey]

what should i focus on for getting higher progress on CC?

[hybrid halo]

Yup, cooldown is around 20K at the end of CC

[bold quiver]

soon

[hybrid halo]

Yes

[dapper prism]

Also important is crystal rate and choco chip btw

[hybrid halo]

This bubble

[bold quiver]

strong

[hollow osprey]

damn those levels

mine is on lvl 12..

[bold quiver]

that is an easy one tho, u can hourly click it. very easy to produce 1000M toilet papers

[hybrid halo]

What's the most you've gotten in seconds?

[dapper prism]

Yeh, as said from the beginning, really need to focus your alchemy and stuff like stamps

[bold quiver]

i think 415 probably, around that

but on average its 405

my rate is only 100 so not that high

[hollow osprey]

i'll resample now, what would be the most important to sample for bubbles? can send my IE if needed

[hybrid halo]

It fluctuates, think for me it's 420K

[bold quiver]

decent enough. what is your alchemy lvl? im at 129

[hybrid halo]

151

[bold quiver]

goode nough

its not like high cc has any meaning anyway after a point lol

its just for fun

[hybrid halo]

Got to level GT bubble lol

[bold quiver]

no way kkkkkkkkk time wasted trying to get charactres to family 5000 AFTER leveling GT over 15K is horrendous

i will wait for W6 exp increase kkkkkkk

[hybrid halo]

I'm on 4902 family level, I should push for it but It's so slow on BB and BM

[bold quiver]

oh yeah, its horrible

[hollow osprey]

@dapper prism lmk if you need my IE

[bold quiver]

if it wasnt so bad getting BB and BM and Vman to over 480 i would do it

this happened yay

[hybrid halo]

Want to get 22.01 DR tho

[bold quiver]

w6 soon

[rough wasp]

22 DR 👀

[bold quiver]

cuz when u are only going for 480 on those 3 its already because u overpushed everyone else

[hybrid halo]

Almost

[rough wasp]

Where do you get all that DR

[bold quiver]

SB 1M stacks?

[rough wasp]

I cant post pictures yet still :^(

[red crescent]

Does the 4th form of the bonsai exist? I've had a 3rd form bonsai in my garden for a few days now and it hasn't evolved...

[bold quiver]

money power

[tall horizon]

yes you can

[hybrid halo]

140K

[bold quiver]

oh just increase that and u get 22 then, way faster than leveling anyone lol

[hybrid halo]

I’ll probably do that, working on some shiny levels as well

[hollow osprey]

could anyone help me with samples? idk what i should sample, want to focus on getting my alch bubbles higher

[rough wasp]

o

[bold quiver]

true, each lvl is 1% isnt it? huge

[bold quiver]

then sample what u need for those bubbles haha

[hollow osprey]

idk which ones i should focus on that's the problem

[bold quiver]

Skiling stuff is devided mostly between, alchemy, crafting, stamps

only a few overlap

[bold quiver]

Skilling and dmg bubbles

[hollow osprey]

alright

ty

[bold quiver]

flat stats is good, the multipliers are good

[coral goblet]

Make sure no bubble left behind isn’t leveling easy bubbles

Make sure your multi ore / log / bug etc is at 300%

[hybrid halo]

I think so, currently getting 0.17 from them. Haven’t levelled the DR shynies much

[bold quiver]

oh sweet, do that then!

mine are already lvl 6

[tacit tulip]

this imo is one of the most important points. You don't want NBLB hitting stuff like logs - you want it to hit the harder stuff like salt, spice, critters, or worship

[bold quiver]

i did a setup there with all important shiny pets, so its just leveling forever

[plain sentinel]

til "show identity" also shows identity on the pier
it took me this long to realize this and I just thought selecting captains/boats was an unnecessarily difficult task of deduction

[signal osprey]

You also level the catching bag stamp and your vmans catching level. Most 210 multitool owners have 116 or 120 mason jar

[coral goblet]

Facts. Mine has been proccing the hard to level ones and been boosting me big time keeping it off any easy bubble

[bold quiver]

im missing jar then, my catching is already close to 130

[hybrid halo]

Did any of you get the highest DPS on beginner shimmer trial?

[signal osprey]

130 is like bare minimum

[bold quiver]

my jar is 100, so gonna focus on getting it to 120-130

[signal osprey]

Most are closer to 140

[bold quiver]

yeah not much to do tho, its mostly waiting while it catches w5 stuff

[signal osprey]

With 192 catchign bag stamp

[tacit tulip]

if I'm not planning on afk-ing fractal any time soon I should do rando first right?

[bold quiver]

damn its so hard getting cap !

[coral goblet]

I grabbed crystal with bo regrets

As 4th

[signal osprey]

Yeah 210 multitool is a grind

[bold quiver]

i'd do random

[coral goblet]

Exp and candies kinda nice fr

[signal osprey]

I needed 131 catching, 192 bag, and 124 jar

[bold quiver]

damn

yeah i can imagine that requirement, strongest will be jar

[pearl cedar]

139 catching, 116 jar, and 192 bag here

[hybrid halo]

Getting the bribe upgrade from trash island soon, helps with rando island

[pearl cedar]

Rando 🤢

[sacred verge]

where should trash be spent when bribes are unlocked ?

[coral goblet]

Is the bribe only the trash or do you get any others?

[sacred verge]

more trash or stamps?

[tacit tulip]

I generally just buy what's cheapest

[hybrid halo]

Stamps?

[pearl cedar]

Like a 3% gain in trash per week

[tall horizon]

stamps

[keen talon]

how does slab work with dungeon weapons? do u have to be each of the classes to pick one the weapons or can u just do it with one and itll count for the rest?

[sacred verge]

all of them? also what order?

[pearl cedar]

Take trash% to 10

[tall horizon]

no idea, I just like stamps lol.

Not even sure its the most efficient, but stamps.

[hybrid halo]

The first stamp is

[pearl cedar]

Though if you're not worried about nametag then can probably skip more trash tbh

[sacred verge]

the sample one seems like a waste? isnt it waste if you have 90% allrdy?

[tacit tulip]

yeah but it gets you closer to a future where royal isn't needed

[pearl cedar]

Can maybe take off royal sampler on dk lol

[sacred verge]

true

royal isnt much of a problem tho, but yeah

[pearl cedar]

But the gains from that is so minimal

[tall horizon]

some endgamer you are 😛 those minimal gains are all that matter

[tacit tulip]

5.2 even at my low stamp level is pretty sweet

[glacial venture]

isnt the shown value already including vial?

[tacit tulip]

nope

[pearl cedar]

That's true, but only char I care about skill exp on is vman and I dont have royal sampler on him anyways

[hollow osprey]

resampling pretty annoying

[pearl cedar]

Speaking of someone remind me to sample gigafrogs next time I sample. I forgot last time and have to keep getting on ES

[tacit tulip]

I'm really suffering since I went on holiday and lost my materials

[glacial venture]

do it with vman

[tacit tulip]

need to resample everything up to 1b again

[pearl cedar]

Thanks

[glacial venture]

sample with vman while on speedrun

[pearl cedar]

Yes obv

[glacial venture]

or how it was called^^

[pearl cedar]

I just forgot to last time and im not breaking my 80 day streak to sample giga frog horns when i can active there for an hour and have enough for like 3 weeks

[hollow osprey]

i hate that i forget every time to equip sample prayer

[steep cipher]

I’ve had one of my Seige Breakers at suggmas for an entire month. Assuming atleast 7x drop, how likely am I for the knuckle recipe to drop

[pearl cedar]

Have you logged on at all or no?

[steep cipher]

On other chars yes?

[pearl cedar]

No on the SB

[steep cipher]

No, it’s been afk the entire time

[barren otter]

im excited post the results

[hollow osprey]

what should i sample on mman?

[pearl cedar]

Oh um it is hard to say. If you recorded your mk and kph you could have calced it using dr calc

[bold quiver]

grinding the quest

[sacred verge]

mob drops, vial mob drops is nice

[hollow osprey]

alright ty

[tall horizon]

frisbees

[barren otter]

ngl even with an entire month 7x DR is pretty low

so i wouldnt get your hopes up

[sacred verge]

why frisbees? and is that possible?

[bold quiver]

so are u saying 7DR is small?

[pearl cedar]

Frisbees, vials, refinery mats. Maybe coconuts or combs

[tall horizon]

bragging rights

[coral goblet]

Yeah 7 is low

[hollow osprey]

it's possible to sample frisbees?

[sacred verge]

lol

how many frisbees an hour?

did u get

[bold quiver]

done gg

[dapper prism]

Took me a single day to get suggma recipe, which was 900+ of their 1/50k drops. It's not necessarily just time but in relation to how many of their 1/50k drops you get for the average

[pearl cedar]

7 is about 1/3rd of current max DR

[bold quiver]

seems like a lot

[bold quiver]

if i got a 33% discount i would be glad

[hollow osprey]

damn i didn't even know you can sample frisbees

[lavish grotto]

does loot value just increase the amount of gold bars or resource you get from chests

[barren otter]

post the 1 month afk claim

[dapper prism]

Yeh, its a main dro (first item on the card)

[pearl cedar]

⬜

[bold quiver]

is this the best in slot fishing stuff now?

[steep cipher]

So what, I should just active on DK til I get it?

[sacred verge]

ES

[steep cipher]

If its unlikely I’mma get with 1 month claim, why not wait longer

[barren otter]

thats up to you

but you cant tease us with a 1 month claim and not post it

[violet bridge]

which is better for 10th, second bb or second sb

[vagrant mountain]

I literally put 6 chars afk on suggmas and I got it within a week

[bold quiver]

sb

no reason for 2 bb

[violet bridge]

thanks

[bold quiver]

unless u are doing some crazy speedrun stratetegy to swap it for dk later

[dapper prism]

For starters you should know/learn the difference on when to use ES and DK. Here some basics:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[glass quail]

after 2nd dk and es what is the last 2nd elite?

[sacred verge]

SB

[hollow osprey]

do i have to delete my samples to unequip royal sampler?

[glass quail]

some say bb some say sb

[sacred verge]

3 warriors, 3 mages, 3 archers and 1 vman

2DK, 1BB, 2 ES, 1 bubo, 2 SB, 1 BM

[hollow osprey]

i fckin hate my life

resampled everything rn but used royal sampler without knowing that i would have to delete the samples for unequipping..

[tacit tulip]

just keep the sampler on

[sacred verge]

just keep it on

worth it

[tacit tulip]

there's never a good reason to remove it

[hollow osprey]

oh well

50mil exp/h less on my ES rip

[tacit tulip]

exp is an illusion

only printing matters

woo 50 poison tower 😄

[jolly talon]

why does the damage increase by 3 times, when the food only gives 0.48% stat boost?

[keen rapids]

Woah damn bro O_o

[wind umbra]

probs gave you enough wis to hit 1.5x acc so ur dk damage applied

[tacit tulip]

you're hitting hte acc threshold for DK

[jolly talon]

whats that?

[jolly talon]

ah, thx

[granite condor]

Any good guides for money farming?

[sick sentinel]

Kill hella gmush for the money lab node, farm a good map on bubo, profit

[granite condor]

Why is bubo better than ES?

[tacit tulip]

slowly getting close to maxing out tab 4

[tacit tulip]

Bubo: Total number of kills -> Total number of cystal mobs -> Money gain, also alchemy
ES: Portal kills (do not spawn crystals, though do spawn more mobs), buff only applies to mobs -> Mob drops
DK: Orb multiplier (so 100 is 2x drop rate) -> Crystals drop loads -> Crystal drops, also construction

[sick sentinel]

Had it on deck nice

[tacit tulip]

heheh

[dapper prism]

Technically best money would be Bubo, but I'd still recommend DK now that worms drop keys and DK seems to be better if your orb gets to 700-800+

[granite condor]

700 orb score? I’m far from that

Thx tho

[keen rapids]

Anyone got sailing guides?

Or is it just pure rng for artifacts?

[dapper prism]

Working on a Sheet to make alchemy more visual, mainly for the 3D print hourly click stuff. Will be color-coding the cells based on source. PS: yes, i took the bubble effy doc as a template xD
https://i.imgur.com/WcTgNHB.png

[dapper prism]

How/why do you need a guide if you're that far already?

RNG, dont go from left to right. Always keep fastest boats on highest islands to not bottleneck yourself.
SB tab 4 talent 11. Dont use if it you check sailing more than once a day. only use it if you do a daily checkin kinda thing

[keen rapids]

Well i've done sailing since the day it came out

[unreal fox]

Saved

[keen rapids]

And i've just yet to really feel any progress with it

[dapper prism]

Huh, it's not even finished? or what do you mean

[dapper prism]

You setup gold hampters on all alts? Sailing bubble, PO box. Omni gods help too but are more situational

[keen rapids]

Yh of course.

But im still missing artifacts :/ is there nothing else to it other than rng really?

[river sentinel]

Is there someway to use up pens faster? I'm currently sitting at 3678 pens and I have no desire to go through all that manually

[wind umbra]

how often u claiming sailing?

[dapper prism]

Depends on how active you are. claim frequency, and if u use sb talent or not

[keen rapids]

On everything single character, every single day. so 10 times in total per day

[unreal fox]

Ah i just save it to my phone

[wind umbra]

get a little brother to do them

[dapper prism]

People recommend phone/tablet (touchscreen) since it's easier to spam with 2 fingers without having to move a mouse back and forth.

[wind umbra]

u should be claiming way more often

[dapper prism]

Claiming sailing on every alt? are we playing the same game? xD

[river sentinel]

I'll live with it until lava has a way to deal with them

[lost depot]

Best progress in sailing is checking at least every 2 hours

[tall horizon]

Nope, you're an endgamer

[lost depot]

But obv not possible if you have certain jobs

[dapper prism]

Cant be an endgamer if i dont do hourly clicks 👀
https://i.imgur.com/CBx0Ret.png

[dapper prism]

Even 4h should be enough without hitting cap

[tall horizon]

Sure ya can, just not hyper endgamer

[lost depot]

Tru

[keen rapids]

Alright well, that just isn't realistic for me sadly so letting the chests upgrade isn't good?

[lost depot]

That strat has massively diminishing returns

[keen rapids]

That probably explains my horrible progress xD

[lost depot]

The more often you check, the better unfortunately

I hope W6 has more proper Idle mechanics because I'm not a fan of checking every 1-2 hours being the most efficient playstyle

[keen rapids]

Any strat for gaming plants*, still haven't had any luck getting that final plant :/

[lost depot]

Sacrifice a goat

[keen rapids]

To which?

[lost depot]

Any chosen deity, doesn't matter rly

[keen rapids]

Lvl 136 gaming, and yet to get that plant man 😦

[lost depot]

If you mean this upgrade then click every time you get 0.5%

That's the strat

[dapper prism]

Not even

[keen rapids]

So 0.5% is the magic number?

[dapper prism]

Earlier than 0.5

Just, spam that button

[sacred verge]

took me months from evergreen to chem

[dapper prism]

What % are you clicking it?

[keen rapids]

Whenever I remember there is no % i go for.

[lost depot]

Perhaps the 0.5% value is just to save your wrist from RSI

Gaming can require an absurd amount of clicks

[sacred verge]

sailing aswell

[keen rapids]

kk, what's the strat for nuggets then?

[lost depot]

Yeah

[keen rapids]

Only got a 10k nugget :/

[lost depot]

Crazy that sailing has been out for months and we still don't have an "open all" button

Lava has never had respect for RSI enducing mechanics

No strat for nuggets except sacrificing another goat if you have one

[keen rapids]

:/

[lost depot]

The more goats the better

[keen rapids]

Great, so basically come on every 2 hours for an idle game,

[lost depot]

YEP

[pearl cedar]

This is activeon

[lost depot]

Idleon is best played alongside a session-based game like esports because you can play 1-2 matches and then claim everything

[keen rapids]

I wouldn't have an issue with sailing or nuggets but there's no real pity system :/

[lost depot]

I wouldn't worry about nuggets, 10k is fine

Getting higher than 10k is extremely lucky

[keen rapids]

I've been at 10k nuggets since more or less w5 release :/

[lost depot]

So has everyone else

[dapper prism]

Not too extremeley. like a 1/500ish chance

[keen rapids]

For a game all about passive progress, it ain't so passive.

[dapper prism]

Yeh, nuggets should have been nerfed by like 20x less but then become additive or something ontop of your nugget pile

[lost depot]

Considering some people will click the shovel 1-2 times per day you could easily go years without getting higher than 10k

[dapper prism]

But don't worry, we'll get a companion that'll do that xD

[dapper prism]

Forgetting chem/log skips with that though

[lost depot]

True

[viral star]

nice

[lost depot]

Honestly I hope a lot of gaming becomes automated because advanced Gaming can take hundreds of clicks per day

[viral star]

my biggest sample evr..

[keen rapids]

That's probably be the best way to do it

[sacred verge]

after all does it really matter getting a insane nuget? most bonuses should be obtainable without one

[dapper prism]

Rule 4 * #server-rules

[keen rapids]

Tf is rule 3C?

This game has rules??

[lost depot]

Don't mention that, its a server rule

Just delete ur comment to be safe

[keen rapids]

Doesn't take a genius to think that xD

[lost depot]

Obviously, but dont type it out loud

[dapper prism]

That's why people have younger brothers

[tacit tulip]

[lost depot]

A lucky nugget is just a nice boost

[dapper prism]

Oh he has?

[tacit tulip]

just one statue left

[lost depot]

I like the direction with island expeditions, it's back to proper idle mechanics

[pearl cedar]

No he meant he the rng has less odds

[lost depot]

I really like that expeditions progress even if you don't check in

W5 mechanics are fun to engage with but lacking automation once you progress far enough

[dapper prism]

Yup, and things stacking up

And technically you do lose "progress" if you dont check in frequently but it's not as bad

[lost depot]

Really, new skills should have automation built-in that you naturally unlock as you progress

[shy flame]

hollowed tail pendant or chizoar scarf for vman speedruns?

[pearl cedar]

Town skills anyways

[lost depot]

Every high-engagement skill should eventually become trapping where it's a once-per-day collection once it's set up

Otherwise feature-creep will become insane

[keen rapids]

Rift trapping preferably.

[lost depot]

NBLB is also really nice

[pearl cedar]

But gotta check in a lot for all red boats

[lost depot]

How so?

[dapper prism]

If you check trash often, you can upgrade the bonus that gives +20% trash more frequently. making following days give you more.

If you only checked in like a week or whatever how long they stack. You'd still be at base multi

[lost depot]

Oh yeah

[fast verge]

WOOOOAAAA

[dapper prism]

Also, do we know how long bottles/trash stacks?

[fast verge]

5% RNG

[lost depot]

That's normal idle game stuff though it's fine

[pearl cedar]

Optimal 2 minute claims on everyone with doot to make refinery go brr

[tacit tulip]

near indefinitely I think - someone opened theirs the other day and had like 14 bottles waiting

It was however many days since it opened

[dapper prism]

Pretty sure you're just joking, as that's not how it works. Yet too many people always thing you could do that

[dapper prism]

Well, 14 bottles would only be 2-3 days 👀

[tacit tulip]

you know damn well what I mean 😛

operation "245 all tab 4 skills" is slowly getting there

[dapper prism]

Honestly not sure because this was like 3 days of not checking:
https://i.imgur.com/rlog1xe.png

[pearl cedar]

Technically is right for the same reason you should check trash everyday

[tacit tulip]

I mean they had 14+ individual bottles floating int he water at once

[dapper prism]

Oh in the water

[pearl cedar]

You get a 10hr refinery proc and only need 8 hrs you're losing out on 2 hrs of progress

[dapper prism]

Forgot they have different piles in the water xD

[gentle anchor]

should i grind skill mastry?

[lost depot]

Mastery bonuses generally have diminishing returns so don't over-invest in it

[gentle anchor]

ok ill ignore it for a bit

[tacit tulip]

they're another thing that gets easier the stronger your account is

[lost depot]

Once you notice it slowing down you can chill on it

[tacit tulip]

one day you'll just decided "i want everyone at 100 fishing" and it'll take like a day

[potent lily]

When is next huppy hour?

[tacit tulip]

3 and a bit hours

like,3 hours 5 mins I think?

pretty sure the game tells you if you go in the map too

[lost depot]

Most of the best bonuses are lv300-500 so you can focus on those, but don't rush lv1000 unless it's easily within reach with a few candies

[dapper prism]

Did that for all skills on all alts few days before onyx release xD

some still stuck at like 90 catching though

[gentle anchor]

dont got any lvl 5OO

[tacit tulip]

long term goal is red tools on everyone - but don't overfocus it early as salt will slow you down

[gentle anchor]

dont got any red tools

i like green tools more tbh

they look better

[tacit tulip]

they do, but not the point 😄

At least consider red tools on your main skillers

[gentle anchor]

nah

[lost depot]

Skill mastery gets much easier once you hit lv1000 on your town skills like construction, lab, divinity, gaming because you get big EXP boosts from those

[gentle anchor]

green is my favourite color

[tacit tulip]

oh god, just realised it's almost time to level alien logs 😦

[gentle anchor]

are those hard to lvl?

[sacred verge]

5*ing cards is pain

[tacit tulip]

lava typo'd alien logs on release

they're 1/100k card chance instead of 1/10k

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

[barren otter]

cardifier it...

[gentle anchor]

whats youre guys fav tool?

[lost depot]

poop tools ofc

[gentle anchor]

i have 1OO eff on most of the things so there isnt rlly a point

[sacred verge]

is king doot hard to 5* ? about how many keys would one need?

[gentle anchor]

7k-9K prob

[lost depot]

A shitload

[sacred verge]

not even close to that, lol

[gentle anchor]

i got king doot card

[sacred verge]

same

[lost depot]

King doot card is such a banger

carries you hard in early game

[tacit tulip]

More eff = bigger prints

[hollow osprey]

how do people get like millions of prints?

[sacred verge]

millions is not that hard

[tacit tulip]

Lots of eff
Lots of skilling speed
lots of afk%

Eff is the main driver really

[hollow osprey]

[sacred verge]

are you in w5 with those prints?

[hollow osprey]

yeah new to w5 tho

[sacred verge]

wow

[tacit tulip]

you basically level up alchemy a bunch, and that one stamp from w5 (multitool), which gives you a butt load of eff

[hollow osprey]

where can i get the stamp?

[tacit tulip]

it's quite far in - stamp piggy at lamps

needs high div level

[hollow osprey]

oh well ty

i'm still at sugmas

[tacit tulip]

Your prints get bigger due to the increased eff - which helps level your bubbles more, which in turn gives you more eff... repeat to silly prints

my prints aren't even that ridiculous these days

[hollow osprey]

i'm focussing on level up my skill bubbles atm

[hollow osprey]

damn

[tacit tulip]

Yep, that's the way to approach things

[hollow osprey]

how can i farm much money in w5?

[tacit tulip]

Basically just kill the mobs furthest in

as fast as you can

[lost depot]

Active farming the last map

[tacit tulip]

obviously gets easier the stronger you are

[hollow osprey]

have to progress further then

[shy flame]

the farthest in mobs you can kill give the best money and the best exp

[hollow osprey]

have to get better gear etc

[shy flame]

it's free real estate all the way to the end unless your armor or accuracy are meh

[tacit tulip]

alchemy definitely gonna be your friend going forwards - cooking too

[hollow osprey]

yeah i really have to focus more on alch and cooking

[tacit tulip]

Troll really is a huge milestone, but the first set feels insurmountable

[zinc torrent]

how did i miss that this was added?

[shy flame]

better than the w5 gear my ES used to use

[feral whale]

its maybe stupid question but if i want maximize 3d sample buy my vman speedrun i need to be connected to Harriep god(bunny)

[tacit tulip]

unfortunately it's not per tier so pretty bad 😦

[zinc torrent]

but its only total MK right?

rip

[hollow osprey]

btw which star talents should i definitely get? havent got much

[tacit tulip]

Bunny multiplies your existing prints. You either want snek (+30% afk for samples) or nobisect (can push faster to setup your prints)

then swap to bunny after to 3x the prints

[sacred verge]

might be usefull when you got low tiers, example w6

[hollow osprey]

just have got those

[tacit tulip]

yeah, that'll be where it shines. You won't have deathnote bonuses in w6 immediately either

[broken oar]

Hey someone can help me get more cards

[tacit tulip]

there's worse things to spend your poitns on tbf

[feral whale]

i think i just use Nobi to go as far as i can, then sample with snake, and then bunny, thanks for info

[tacit tulip]

Use ES for monster cards - Vman with 100% eff for skilling cards

[broken oar]

What do you mean with 100% eff?

[sacred verge]

did u farm the w5 5* cards?

[pearl quail]

I need to work on my gear aswl

[tacit tulip]

enough efficiency to get at least 1 of the skilling item every swing

[broken oar]

A ok

[tacit tulip]

The card rate is based on hitting that, so if you're on 50% chance, you get 50% cards

[hollow osprey]

which star talents should i get?

[tacit tulip]

I've done a few

[pearl quail]

The hour glass

[sacred verge]

how long did MR. brightside take you?

[tacit tulip]

a few days iirc, snapshotted card rate on ES then used DR build (no midas)

[gentle anchor]

sakori

[tacit tulip]

he never admitted to it being a mistake as far as I'm aware but it absolutely is lmao

[sacred verge]

yeah i strated on it but felt like it was soo slow

how about king doot card, did u 5* it?

[tacit tulip]

I used a cardifier for doot

[sacred verge]

yeah

alright

[runic girder]

Ive been wondering how are lustre and copper coins dropping at the same time

[sick sentinel]

doot wasnt so bad if u rememebered to buy your daily trinket from the jungle shop

was getting 5 or so cards a run

[sacred verge]

about how many is needed?

[tacit tulip]

whispy lumber: 1:10k
Alien logs: 1:100k
cubed logs: 1:25k

[runic girder]

Why is alien even so rare

[tacit tulip]

Assumed a typo. See: Magma legs pre-nerf being 10m each

[runic girder]

Well i hope he fixes that typo soon

And multiplies all alien log card counts by 10x

[sick sentinel]

prob somewhere around 130 idk, its been a while

coulda been less or more

[sacred verge]

alright, assuming you used vman?

[sick sentinel]

yup

[tacit tulip]

Maple logs are 1:100k and dandie is 1:200k for further reference

but those feel more appropriate as a w5 sourced item

I'm still astounded suggma recipe stayed at 50m

[viral star]

if i get a worse sample does it switch my better sample for the worse one?

[tacit tulip]

Nop, keeps the highest

means you can do fishing samples without worry

[viral star]

im doing this rn and was thinking will idie inside while do ing it

[dapper prism]

If you need sample help/guidance:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[viral star]

thats usefull thx

[sour oasis]

Any tips on if i have 2,000 pens i want to spend and want to save my fingers from arthritis

[vagrant mountain]

go mobile

[sour oasis]

is that possible if im a steam player

[white cipher]

yes

[zealous niche]

Also do them in small batches

[white cipher]

i play on both you just have to link and always when you log out go back to the player screen

[zealous niche]

Like, do 100, take a break repeat

[vagrant mountain]

I do 2k at a time

[zealous niche]

Oh yes, definitely don’t be logged in across both platforms

[zealous niche]

What are your tendons made of

[white cipher]

yeah only one at a time

[lament jasper]

100 takes like 5mins to do its fine imo

[modern plaza]

bug lava to implement a QOL for pens

[lament jasper]

Less even

[zealous niche]

There is already: the atom

[prisma drift]

Honestly I did 1500 pens on mobile and it wasn’t terrible

[vagrant mountain]

just go mobile and you don't even have to look

[white cipher]

well u have to spend some for the achievment

[prisma drift]

I wasted a lot of pens but it’s whatever

[zealous niche]

I do, and my joints and muscles get sore

[vagrant mountain]

ok boomer

[zealous niche]

Small repetitive motions aren’t good for you

[lament jasper]

Old issue

[zealous niche]

[white cipher]

i only have 200 😦 but I did just unlock the atom thing

i def need more boxes

[prisma drift]

Atom bonus for pens is doodoo

[zealous niche]

All this time I thought I was millennial but I’m a boomer!

[zealous niche]

Definitely, it is passive

[white cipher]

i just got one my atom making rate is horrible

[zealous niche]

In a few years you’ll max myriad

[bright current]

Whats it like to own property

[white cipher]

lol

[zealous niche]

Nice actually, glad we bought cheaper than our limit because the rate rises through covid were (and still) are madness

[bright current]

[zealous niche]

Only have a tiny townhouse, definitely nothing too impressive

[sour oasis]

Trying to figure out mobile linkin with steam, i only have option to sign in with email or google?

[modern plaza]

dont worry we'll get player housing in idleon

[sour oasis]

Never mind disregard my last statement

[old coyote]

just got to w5, is an ES pusher still fine?

[tacit tulip]

yeah, you'll wall out pretty hard until you get stronger tho

Mob HP scales high as does portal reqs - you'll quickly need to look back at w1-4 specifically to get stronger

Primarily this is alchemy but now's a good time to reconsider everything so far and improve everythiong

[dapper prism]

More important is Divinity and backtracking tbh

Check pin about divinity. Also some things you can active backtrack to:
https://i.imgur.com/lBhYK5z.png

[old coyote]

What class is best for grinding cards?

[tacit tulip]

ooh there's a little infographic

[tight saddle]

waaaaaaaaaaaaait are these highest level coins? I just put 73 in bank where I already had 30 or so and I think they overflowed back to 11 lol

[tacit tulip]

ES for mob cards, M/Vman for skilling cards

[tacit tulip]

the rest are there it just doesn't display correctly

[opaque sun]

the game has ui limitations of calling the 2 highest digit as godshard

[tacit tulip]

100 godshard coins show as 10

[opaque sun]

You still have them

[tacit tulip]

1000 also shows as 10 😄

basically just use IE/IT to see how much you truly have

[opaque sun]

In your case, 110 godshard is just being shown as 11 godshard just visually

[tight saddle]

ahhhh now I get it, was wondering why I could also only withdraw 11 of them if there is more

thanks guys :)

[tacit tulip]

Assuming we get more ore types (should do - IS had them) money would probably be updated to match

otherwise lava will probably do something along the lines of green money, like in gaming bits

[potent lily]

What tire is the ballon dog key chsin?

[tight saddle]

I hope so D: I did some upgrades and now my bubo is farming around 100 godshards / day

first time of them overflowing like this

[potent lily]

What are god shard?

[tight saddle]

apparently the name of the tier of those coins

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[potent lily]

Ho

[tacit tulip]

Lustre -> Starfire -> Dreadlo -> Godshard

Next mining ore we get will be godshard too

[potent lily]

Going to be fun

[opaque sun]

the name from idle skilling i think

[tight saddle]

fingers crossed for dogshard after that

[tacit tulip]

yeah, a large portion of the game has overlap with IS

Godshard is currently the last thing in the data but there was more in IS, so probably just get those added later

[potent lily]

Where do you think will be the portal to the god shard

[dapper prism]

Although in IS the order is very different (or at least, a lot more options in between)

[tacit tulip]

probs just after dreadlo. There's two other branching maps too that are unused

but it'd be weird to use 'em for that

[potent lily]

There is in the silver mine the portal its still useless

[tacit tulip]

yup, this portal isn't used either

but realistically it'll be this one to keep the linear order. The other portals should probably have an alternate use

[potent lily]

Yep

Im lvl 69 and i need lvl 70 to make the dorado pick

[tight saddle]

Would be funny if lava ninja patched the one that takes you back to mushrooms

And it would still take you back to mushrooms

But basically it would be alternative reality

[tacit tulip]

I was kinda sad he fixed that

[tight saddle]

Things getting weirder and weirder as you go further

[potent lily]

Yea i liked it

[tacit tulip]

at least he gave us near infinite teleports

as a noob I used to use spike minigame to cheese going back to town

[finite sparrow]

Is diabolical armor better than chizoar armor?

[fast grail]

Dont make diabolical for anything aside from slab

[tacit tulip]

No - It's also a dead-end line. Make troll instead once you can afford it

[finite sparrow]

Is troll at the end of w5?

[tacit tulip]

endf of w4

and it then upgrades into w5

[finite sparrow]

How come i'm on lampars in w5 and i didn't know that

[tacit tulip]

like all boss armour you gotta buy the merit unlocks after doing the challenges

[potent lily]

Im trying to get the recipy for the troll armor taking me long to get to the end of w4 with every char

[finite sparrow]

Is it much harder to get than chizoar?

[tacit tulip]

salt is a big wall for it

[fast grail]

Sounds like alch neglect

[gentle anchor]

why do i only get 11m xp if i use a 1hr time candy?

[finite sparrow]

I have 2000 nullo salt

[opaque sun]

if you are on w5, you already killed troll

[tacit tulip]

10k salt for the full set

[finite sparrow]

He probably died so fast i didn't notice it

[tacit tulip]

helmet is most expensive

[potent lily]

Oof

[finite sparrow]

Damn i don't have starfire bars yet

[fast grail]

becasue you dont have enough eff, that number assumes you can catch final fish

[finite sparrow]

Troll armor sounds like hell

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

[tacit tulip]

It is, but it's a worthwhile hell

[finite sparrow]

Are stats more dmg?

[tacit tulip]

w5 armour is much easier to get, but it needs troll first

It's allstats% which has a bigger impact on damage

[finite sparrow]

8 slots too

[dusty briar]

is the mail from the snail not influenced by effects that give time in gaming?

[tacit tulip]

Correct, it collects 1 or 2 mails at your daily reset

[potent lily]

I never made chizor armor lol

[tacit tulip]

(dunno if it can do 3 at 100%+)

[dusty briar]

alr thats what i thought thanks

[opaque sun]

total damage on gear is additive with other total damage sources, so may feel lackluster

[finite sparrow]

I have chizoar scarf, no armor. Was thinking between crafting chizoar or diabolical but i already found the answer here

[potent lily]

I only got 1 scarf

[finite sparrow]

I run the famous green mushroom pants, amarok shoes with everything else dementia and then chaotic chizoar scarf and lustre weapon

[rotund sand]

Any suggestions for 100k statues for vman?

[tacit tulip]

Either get it skilling (Dreadlo good for this) or just active on a big map with max DR/Crystal chance

[rotund sand]

ty

[fast grail]

What damage did you even have to reach w5?

[finite sparrow]

Less than i want to admit

But I'm doing pretty good now

[fast grail]

What is that "pretty good now" damage then?

[potent lily]

My dk is lacking

What tire is the baloon dog keychain?

[finite sparrow]

24m on ES

[dapper bridge]

I haven't unlocked even tab 4 at w5 and mf is at tab5

[dapper bridge]

I got flexed on lol

[sick sentinel]

[dapper bridge]

Frigid souls are hard to me

[potent lily]

Im one of the lowest dps here i think

[dapper bridge]

But has more advanced gear avaliable