lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[clever quartz]

ugghhhh im actually itching for doot now, my candy is lvl 4 :/

[lean quartz]

yeah just thinking about doot is frustrating ;p

[placid fox]

just a heads up but the chance for u to get doot before pity is whay lower than u think

[teal lynx]

Doot is good. But I am also doing fine without him ^^

[fading cape]

I still don't even have frog!

[clever quartz]

i got the second best luck pull the other week and got the talent lvl pet, so im reaaaally doing fine, its just doot is crazy compared to him

[placid fox]

i pulled 5 rift slugs no doot

[serene forum]

Im guessing skilling big bubbles are useless if you already have 300 multiore etc. maxed

[teal lynx]

I got everyone up to Sheepie with only free Pulls. I am doing fine for now :D

[clever quartz]

whats your candy lvl at?

[placid fox]

it maxes at 5

75/200 pity

[eager sedge]

Ye

[serene forum]

Thanks. But everytime i go to pins my phone glitches out. Idk why, it makes me unable to leave the screen.

[fading cape]

The account max is 300. You may end up with the full 300 well before getting bubble there.

[clever quartz]

cool thanks for all the help everyone, ill go watch a yt video on divinity to get started on it

[lean quartz]

isn't rising the cap form 100 to 300 the effect of that bubble?

[teal lynx]

No problem. If you need any more help just ask

[fading cape]

Yes. You'll def need the bubble no matter what. But my multi chance on chopping, for instance, was at 300% when the bubble was at 157%. So you don't need to level the bubble all the way to 300% is what I'm saying

[serene forum]

Thanks. Definitely wasted a lot of atoms today for no reason.

[teal lynx]

It is worth to level it tho. Don't let NBLB hit that Bubble

[fathom lagoon]

Daaamn just got to pet arena 146, finally unlocked 6th slot! Time to unlock the last spice and push for round 200 pet arena lol

[fading cape]

I mean... I guess. Idk. I haven't worried about what NBLB is hitting for a while. But I also didn't focus my multiore until after greenstacking. So I may have been out of order

[opaque sun]

worth to level without using atom. But using atom just to avoid nblb is like defeating the whole purpose

[lean quartz]

hmm, I'm a lil lost on how to efficiently rise my damage, seen ppl with damage in 100s of T while im barely at 4B

what is the main source of damage for you guys?

[opaque sun]

like there are 100 things. There isnt really a ‘main source’

This game is more of gathering many 1.1x buffs than finding one big super buff

[serene forum]

Im guessing quick slap

Main source of endgame damage if you already completed all the mechabics like sailing artifacts, boxes, etc.

[pearl cedar]

Dont fall into quickslap endgame trap

[opaque sun]

but not really recommended for early

[pearl cedar]

Quickslap won't take your 4b to 100s of T.

[serene forum]

Its more like early lategame

[signal osprey]

Name I guess gold prints

[opaque sun]

like just investing 100 or so in slap doesnt do much

[pearl cedar]

It will takes your 10s of T to 100s of T though

[serene forum]

It would take you from 4b maybe about to 1T

[pearl cedar]

Doubt

[signal osprey]

To go from 4b to 1T would take a lot of quick slap

Like a LOT of quick slap lol

[serene forum]

I mean outside like the other things. His issue is probably him not finishing timegated mechanics.

[pearl cedar]

Quickslap is good if you have the raw damage multipliers to make it good.

[opaque sun]

It will happen eventually, but if you are still around 4b, im sure there are lot of other things you can do before slapping

[lean quartz]

name i guess seem like a better option still, can at least print decent qualities of gold ores

[frail basalt]

What talents should i lvl for dk damage?

[signal osprey]

Name I guess is definitely the way to go

[serene forum]

Like, its no way to rush sailing, gear, boxes, stamps, rift, chips, etc

[pearl cedar]

Yeah think I was around 50t on my SB before really started focusing quickslap

[opaque sun]

The refinery rank damage talent, and maybe those tab 2 middle rows

[sacred verge]

what lvl should i bring call me bob to?

[signal osprey]

All the levels

[lean quartz]

Well, I'm done with talents basically, there is no way to actually make sailing faster anymore, I'm basically hoping for artifacts, boxes are maxed too, so yeah

[opaque sun]

there is no breakpoint with that thing

As much you can afford

[sacred verge]

but what should the goal be when it first gets into atom range?

[opaque sun]

As much you can afford

[signal osprey]

Getting 1k is a good early goal if you have the atom production for it

[opaque sun]

People even print comb to add on top of atom

[sacred verge]

thanks

[signal osprey]

And then you can sit on that while you do other bubbles before eventually going back to bob forever

[serene forum]

Im guessing that would be around 5 days?

[sacred verge]

im not gonna print comb haha

[pearl cedar]

Likely better to push other sampling bubbles than Bob until Bob becomes cheap

[sacred verge]

better stuff to print for me then, and it does cost max on warrior

[signal osprey]

More like 7 or 8 depending on how many +3 larry procs you get

[opaque sun]

1000 lv is just seems like a good for psychological wholeness, but dont let that stop you there

[sacred verge]

im working on larry atm

[pearl cedar]

If you have 501 larry it will take like 8-9 days depending on when Bob becomes atomable

[signal osprey]

1000 is just the early investment to get you good con gains while you start atoming other bubbles

[sacred verge]

but i do wanto step up the cons game a bit

[signal osprey]

Once other bubbles are done you push bob from 1000 to infinity

[fathom lagoon]

Just got to pet arena 171, still pushin, only got my rattler defender and refiller left, hopefully I can make 200 lol

[sacred verge]

what would be the priorities for atoming bubbles? Larry first then?

[signal osprey]

If you can atom larry then yes definitely do larry first

[opaque sun]

Larry to like 110% or even 115%

[sacred verge]

working on larry everyday

but after that

[pearl cedar]

115 larry not worth the atoms tbh

[opaque sun]

Yeah it is

[pearl cedar]

Takes like a year to make up the atom loss

[signal osprey]

Yeah larry goes to 110% then you wait until you can print it

[opaque sun]

If you aiming to quit in a year then i guess

[pearl cedar]

Not saying not to take larry to 115. Just not worth the atom loss

[sacred verge]

i was planning to aim for 501 larry at first

should i go higher?

[signal osprey]

I would go at least 700

[opaque sun]

115% like just 2100 so its not that bad

[pearl cedar]

Coming from someone who atom'd larry to 2300 lol

[gentle anchor]

are hapters worh to grind?

[signal osprey]

You dont really have a choice. You need them

[pearl cedar]

Larry is a bubble you should almost always hourly click. Once you can afford

[opaque sun]

and you get them anyway

[gentle anchor]

should i grind them before i do kattlekruk

i got 14 i need 1OO for my mage staff

[wide bolt]

best team?

[gentle anchor]

idk if i should grind them now or later

[opaque sun]

being an ore, larry is relatively easy to add in the hourly click gang

[sacred verge]

i can print about 5.5 mill dementia, should i put it on and try getting a few lvls that way?

[tidal sky]

how much atoms/h is necessary to spend all daily atom chances on larry? is the max atom per day 50?

[pearl cedar]

It wont hurt,

[sacred verge]

5.5 mill x2 prints and then x6 for lab and harriep

would mean less atoms tho

so it might end up hurting me

[pearl cedar]

It wont hurt

Lol

[opaque sun]

particles isnt much an issue to be honest

[sacred verge]

need to be able to sustain the daily larry aswell

[signal osprey]

Yeah it caps at 50 per day and assuming you have all 50 that makes larry about 70k atoms per day to use all the clicks

[paper sail]

You don't have 50 unlocked with those numbers though

[sacred verge]

me?

[fathom lagoon]

You can unlock almost all spices w that setup @wide bolt

I haven’t had any luck getting the last spice w that 5 slot setup, just unlocked 6th slot so going to try w that

[signal osprey]

No just in general. If 70k per day is hard to sustain then you almost certainly wont have boron maxed

[sacred verge]

im at 30, tho i can probably get it a bit higher

[pearl cedar]

Oh I forgot the grind for maxing Boron

[paper sail]

I just joined the 1b sample gang and am still missing the last Boron lol

[pearl cedar]

Better than my samples

[tidal sky]

its a far reality then my current particle production is 19k a day only, can only afford 13 upgrades a day

[paper sail]

Maybe one day, Printer will indeed go brrr

[sacred verge]

i can probably get a 200 mill chopping sample

[signal osprey]

13 is better than 0

[tidal sky]

true, but i wonder if it would not be better spent on maximing sampling bubbles? like base wis and the other, and then come back to larry 110% later?

[pearl cedar]

Larry 100.01 is good enough until you can afford better

[signal osprey]

Yeah getting the first 501 is really impactful. If you cant do full daily clicks into larry then do a mix of larry and bubble 1 or 2 for a cheap boost to samples

[paper sail]

I just got my Larry to 110%

[tidal sky]

sure, the biggest increase on samples is the first and second wis bubble right? since the other ones are already at 80% of the hard cap

[paper sail]

Dementia is still every 2 or 3 hours to click for me

[signal osprey]

3 and 7 are pretty important for samples too

[paper sail]

The tool scaling is pretty stronk

[tidal sky]

my 3 is pretty much not lvled since i never snapshot mp, but the 7 one i could get to 90% possibly

[signal osprey]

You dont need to snapshot mp to make 3 useful

You still have mana in a normal setup without a snapshot lol

[paper sail]

Yarp

Snapahotting is very min-max for minor gains

[tidal sky]

well but the increase would be very minimal won't it? like idk few % only

[signal osprey]

Its one of the best increases you're gonna get

Especially for how cheap it is

[fathom lagoon]

Is there any point going past pet arena 200 btw?

[green eagle]

the little barbarian that could DID

[paper sail]

Like HP snapshotting bumped my copper sample from 644 -> 646m lol. I don't bother with it

[fathom lagoon]

Thanks contract

[green eagle]

idk why i tagged you in that @crimson thistle lmao

[crimson thistle]

godbless hatnk you for the reply

xddd

[tidal sky]

well then definitely will focus on this since it is currently at lvl 141 and to 90% is lvl 900, it will make a big difference hopefuly

[crimson thistle]

guys, how does one go from non chad 4k base stat to these huge numbers i see

[paper sail]

It's just jungle logs too, so ends up being first 5 bubbles you can manage to hourly click

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/saigeryan-notsaige-twitch-gif-23829081

[signal osprey]

Stat scaling will mostly come from pushing your bubble 1's forever

[crimson thistle]

ah shame, im a ways of that lmao

[green eagle]

start today

bubo will lead the way

[crimson thistle]

i mean i cant

i dont have tent 200

[green eagle]

you can and you will

[signal osprey]

Bubo works without 200 tent

[green eagle]

tent 200 is NOT a requirement

[crimson thistle]

its rather slow

without

[green eagle]

how do you think we did bubo in w4 without w5 goodies

[signal osprey]

Back in my day books capped at 160

Nobody had 200 tent

[crimson thistle]

i just want my 200 tent damnit 😢

[signal osprey]

And we still bubo'd all day long

[green eagle]

👴 i 'member

[crimson thistle]

im doing my onyx statue farm at the mo

oh also, what do i make my last 2 chars, i have the base 6, extra dk and vman

[paper sail]

Gotta shift your whole focus to Samples.

[tidal sky]

the biggest requirement to get big numbers is not have a girlfriend so you spend more time playing

[paper sail]

Baby ruins it way more

[signal osprey]

Or get a girlfriend that also plays so she can click bubbles for you when you cant do it yourself 🧠

[sleek fulcrum]

Only until they are old enough to farm for you!

[tidal sky]

its an investment i see

[paper sail]

Yup

[green eagle]

wife and kids checking in, it's hard out here to play anything other than idle games

[paper sail]

W5 is 8months old, my daughter is 6months old.

[signal osprey]

My baby will know how to click bubbles before he knows how to walk 🗿

[tidal sky]

wow crazy to think that, and congrats!

[green eagle]

train 'em young, they will know the holy trinity of Alchemy, Stamps, & Cooking and show the way for future generations to come

[paper sail]

Maybe sometime in w6, she'll be clicking bubbles and Deposit All for me lol

[signal osprey]

Forget mom and dad. If his first word isnt alchemy then I failed as a father

[paper sail]

Brb committing sudoku for I have failed

Thank god my little brother is around to help with some clicks

[green eagle]

"every hour we click these bubbles, and we DON'T move our active player"

[paper sail]

And we don't leave the map because it ruins the Construction obol snapshot

[green eagle]

🪚

[signal osprey]

All hail the con snapshot

[paper sail]

My build rate is still so 💩 even with it

Gotta get these Drone levels faster

[signal osprey]

I'm almost endgame now

[paper sail]

Damn

I get around 550m with snapshot on active DK

[frail basalt]

wtf

[paper sail]

Think my labrat dk is around 600 cons level?

[signal osprey]

BR starts to scale pretty hard as you get the levels higher

[paper sail]

629 looks like

Yeah. I wanted Larry to 110 before I went back to Bob atoming

[gentle anchor]

do you get something from kattlekruk that is good?

[paper sail]

I just resampled over the last 2 days. Feels like time for Bob 2k

[signal osprey]

I'm finally atoming bob again as well after pushing a bunch of sampling bubbles to 95%

[sharp wind]

Kind of a noob question, how do u snapshot cons obol?

[signal osprey]

I think it might be nothing but bob until W6 from this point onwards

Not much reason to atom anything else

[tidal sky]

and carpenter, how high u guys leave it?

[signal osprey]

Mine is 450

[paper sail]

I'll let someone not typing with their offhand on mobile explain

[tidal sky]

how do u even reach the point of atom it 😭

[signal osprey]

Put your active farmer in a map and then swap to a character with con obols equipped and then just swap back to the active farmer

[paper sail]

Keep it on your NBLB list every day. If it isn't there, work on getting other bubbles off the list to make it

[signal osprey]

As long as you dont open your cog board or leave the map they will have the benefit of the con obols without needing them equipped so you can still use DR obols

If you look at cogs or leave the map it breaks the snap and you need to do it again

[tidal sky]

this is too much work god damn

[sharp wind]

Thanks

[paper sail]

Usually just 3 or 4 stray atom levels each day is all you need to maintain it

[signal osprey]

Yeah its just nblb. It'll get there on its own eventually but you can help speed it along if you level as many bubbles as you can

I didnt even use atoms for it as it felt wasteful

[sharp wind]

Its there any recommended class that should use the cons obol as sacrifice?

[signal osprey]

Anyone thats in div/lab or a BB thats cooking

[paper sail]

The DK you don't Active with is what I use

[sharp wind]

Alright then thanks guys

Eh 1 more question haha

[paper sail]

Bb holds my fishing obols

[sharp wind]

Does this work on all classes?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[sharp wind]

[teal lynx]

More Cons Speed also means more XP right?

[signal osprey]

DK is the best for con gains as bubble 2 boosts the carpenter bubble but you can run the snap shot on bubo or ES as well

And yeah speed gives build rate and con exp

[willow drum]

onyx the con statue seems to do nothing 😦

[tidal sky]

the best way to sample on vman is do the speedrun killing all bosses up to w3 and then sample correct?

[signal osprey]

Thats because the con statue is just awful in general

It does very little for your exp

[willow drum]

I was hoping for a small gain

but yeah wasn't worth the grind tbh

[opaque sun]

press the sample button when void radius buff is on yes for mob sampling

[signal osprey]

Still worth it because every onyx you have increases the amount of statues you gain from deposits

[tidal sky]

ok is with vman that u guys managed to get 1b mob mats? or with ES? because with ES it still takes very long

[willow drum]

ES

[opaque sun]

both

[green eagle]

all 4 of them since the shop never gives me any?

[hexed crescent]

All seasalt island is, is 4 slab items and better fishing xp?

[opaque sun]

ES active worked on later world mobs that vman cant reach during speed runs, while printing off samples that vman took from early mobs

[daring ravine]

And you dont have to wait fishing for w6

[signal osprey]

I have BM print the later mats vman cant reach because I dont feel like wasting my active time using ES

[tidal sky]

sure, and how long would you say it took to max tremur wurm vial with ES? since you have to keep emptying his inv very often

[signal osprey]

Dont do wurms on ES as you gotta farm wurms on bubo anyway

[opaque sun]

you farm wurm alot anyway with DK and bubo

[green eagle]

don't talk down about our sacred training lands

[tidal sky]

but damn, to get 1b its a looot

[opaque sun]

by the time it takes ES to 1b 2 vials, vman print also finishes a vial

[willow drum]

whats your vman samples

[opaque sun]

ive probably farmed like 30b wurm meats in total on DK now

[signal osprey]

Yeah seasalt isnt crazy or anything but none of the islands are. Each island individually is a relatively small bonus to your account

[opaque sun]

So no real need to spend specifically with a ES to 1b vial wurm

[tidal sky]

seasalt was a gamechanger so i could get everyone 75

[hexed crescent]

It's like 40x fishing xp/h, so pretty crazy lol

[lean quartz]

trash island seem to be pretty powerful too, with the new stamps

[opaque sun]

seems to be? It is crucial

Its like rip if you dont choose trash island first

[tidal sky]

are u guys saving for 135 bribe? i got 2 stamps now im saving

[lean quartz]

got only the 1st stamp and I'm putting everything into garbage amount 😄

[tidal sky]

i wil save cus i believe this new bribe let us get more trash

[signal osprey]

6 garbage % > bribes > 9 garbage % > stamps/book/nametag

Thats the optimal path to unlock every bonus in the shortest amount of time

[tidal sky]

why it is not pinned then?

[uncut hull]

is that 9 garbage % 9 additional to the first 6 or just 9 total lvls?

[signal osprey]

9 total

[uncut hull]

dope

[hexed crescent]

Why is none of ya'll getting more bottles

[signal osprey]

You can get the % increased bottles in the stamp/book/nametag group if you want

But its not really worth it

Even without the bottle upgrade you will still unlock all islands before you get enough garbage to finish trash island

[fathom lagoon]

I don’t think bottle increase will really save that many days for island unlocking

Plus once you finish all island unlocks, bottles are useless no?

[signal osprey]

Plus fractal island is kinda pointless so unlocking that sooner doesnt even really matter much

[signal osprey]

No you can use bottles to buy upgrades on rando island

[fathom lagoon]

I’m on round 196 of pet arena, each round taking like 10 mins now

[fathom lagoon]

Ah ok don’t have that island unlocked yet

[hexed crescent]

I did get it so I could for example unlock seasalt quicker, 10% is 10%

[signal osprey]

But assuming you buy none of the bottle upgrades on trash island it takes roughly 6 months to unlock all islands and like 8 months to buy everything on trash island

[hexed crescent]

I'm sure some of the other islands will take a lot of time/infinite time to max, so getting them asap is ideal

[signal osprey]

None of them do lol

Trash is the most time gated island

Buying trash island bottles does more harm than good

[hexed crescent]

What about Shimmer?

I don't really know what the ones I haven't unlocked does

[signal osprey]

Shimmer is kind of time gated but not like trash island

[fathom lagoon]

Can you max shimmer anyway? Or is it just endless upgrades for more fairy count

[signal osprey]

And fractal is also a time gate but its also pretty useless too so not really relevant

[fathom lagoon]

Btw I have to actually beat round 200 in pet arena right? Or just get to it

Quit at 201?

[signal osprey]

Beat it

Get to 201

[fathom lagoon]

Ok and then just turn off auto and let them kill me?

Or can I hit exit

[signal osprey]

I dont think it makes a difference but honestly not sure

[fathom lagoon]

I’ll let them kill me to be safe lol

[opaque sun]

can always catch up fractal to same progress as someone who unlocked earlier

as a matter of fact, a guy who unlocked crystal first actually will progress fractal further due to them having more candies

[primal bison]

Which island should I purchase next?

[opaque sun]

probably seasalt

Bottle upgrade (omar final quest), easy fish leveling for masteries, fish cards, and few more 10m items

[primal bison]

Haven’t finished final quest, it gives an upgrade worth finishing the quest line for?

[opaque sun]

Nothing super amazing, but 10% isnt something to sleep on

[serene forum]

Fractal is janked. Crystal is also trash. New island for easy levels for mastery, green stacks, new fishing cards, final quest. No brainer

[opaque sun]

fractal is bugged for some people to act as a fish afk. But I would not say its janked. Just that it can always wait as fractal is not tied to anything time gated to progress

Crystal island doesnt offer anything flashy new, but effective free 14-21 giants per week isnt that weak

[gentle anchor]

how much dmg do i need to beat kattlekruk

[opaque sun]

Normal? Dunno like few hundred million would do i suppose

Its just a punching bag that doesnt hurt you so just go and try it

[fathom lagoon]

199 let’s goooo

Only 2 left

Then I never have to do pet arena again

[opaque sun]

Until lava adds 225 bonuses

[fathom lagoon]

As long as it’s not “equip 4th big bubble”

[signal osprey]

300 or bust

[fathom lagoon]

#sheepiegang

[opaque sun]

“Doubles effect of big game hunter bubble”

[signal osprey]

Lava likes to introduce some broken mechanics but I think that might be a little too dumb even for his standards

[opaque sun]

he might do that for the next doot tier companion

like he already did doot, double big game hunter is just barely comparable to doot

[green eagle]

not as high as others, but 1000% MS

[signal osprey]

Double big game hunter would reach 100% chance

At a base chance of 1 in 30 for a giant you would get thousands of hours of candy per day on a bubo

[opaque sun]

infinite candy, essentially making all w1-w4 irrelevant like how doot made divinity irrelevant

[green eagle]

ye i just got 1 level of that. over a 10 day period i'll have 80 bottles vs 70. for the small investment it seems "worth it"

[opaque sun]

But also something like an requirement to make fractal doable

Looking at fractal’s later requirement, im smelling 100% big game hunter is kind of a possibility

[signal osprey]

Crystal island was lavas solution to fractal island

[exotic juniper]

finally hit 10 DR 🙂 Obols help a lot been farming w2 statues. got all the gold, blue, and purple obols for drop rate on family and personal tree

[opaque sun]

lava might be preparing a lambo turkey for this coming christmas

And needs to sell green gems for that

[serene forum]

Tbey need to have a chance to drop the infinity candys. The ones that give like 7-500hours

[fathom lagoon]

Round 200 let’s gooooo, should be done in 25 mins lol

[exotic juniper]

last 4 of those ive used gave < 10 hours 😦

[astral vapor]

is there an overview which area/world drops which statues?

[opaque sun]

Pins

[green eagle]

got rando in preparation for trash bribes

didn't realize that the other islands would go up by 100, that's pretty significant lol

[sacred verge]

last island is over 500

[green eagle]

is fractal island fixed on steam? or is it still broken

because if it is still broken i'll just get crystal for even more candy in the long run in prep for fractal

[signal osprey]

Even if it works crystal first is better anyway as the fractal bonuses are mediocre and the trophy isnt feasible

[green eagle]

this island should literally be just that little dude's perch lol nothing else is here

[signal osprey]

Plus fractal isnt time gated so assuming you have the candy for it you can complete the island instantly whenever you do finally unlock it

[serene forum]

Rando was a bad choice

[formal minnow]

How are yall getting so many power statues? I've got the crystal chance and dr on my dk at Beans but I'm only getting like 40 an hour

[green eagle]

not according to those that have the trash bribe

[green eagle]

it means you have something seriously wrong

my dk gets about 5k/hr and there are others with much more

[pearl cedar]

Was trying to figure out how people already have 4th island. Forgot I left area with 2 bottles in water

[sacred verge]

same .... lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah I got cheated out of the first day of bottles

[green eagle]

i've done that three times, it hurts each time

[formal minnow]

I know I need choco, but damn, how am I only getting that many

[sacred verge]

finally unlocking bribes tomorrow

[pearl cedar]

Sounds like you arent using chocco chip and orb

Think I have like 2 days left until bribe

[exotic juniper]

Choco chip?

[signal osprey]

DK scales very well with talent levels so you're probably lacking some book levels

Other than that just more crystal chance and more DR

[pearl cedar]

Literally a skill issue

[signal osprey]

[green eagle]

i love how his selling point for islands was "don't worry about collecting, they will stack up infinitely i just won't keep them safe with someone you have to click, so leaving means bye bye floating bottles

[formal minnow]

I don't have choco chip, but my orb is lvl 202 I think

[sacred verge]

choco is a must have

[pearl cedar]

They stack up infinitely if you never go to third dock

[green eagle]

honestly until you click the bottles floating in the water they should stay there. i understand picking up LOOT that is on the ground, but to make a new mechanic like that that is counterintuitive to the rest of the games drops

[green eagle]

if you don't have choco you might as well do it on vman

he will have better access to crystals and loot tables than choco-less DK

[signal osprey]

DK will still outperform vman by a lot assuming hes set up well

[sacred verge]

might aswell farm gems and go for gemshop gamba

[signal osprey]

No choco just makes DK go from being infinitely better than vman to being like 5x better than vman lol

[paper sail]

👌 Some good dopamine, thank you Alchemy

[pearl cedar]

I dunno cause with a meh orb you might get like 400 score, and vman has like 3-4x more crystal chance and always 2x loot with gimmie gimmie

[signal osprey]

All my homies pump their alchemy

[formal minnow]

So is Beans still the map I wanna be using for crystals if I switch to vman?

[tropic kiln]

all droprate ?

[clear shoal]

Has anyone had a hard time getting the drop for the gauntlets/gloves for the maestro? I have killed like 150 million of those creatures trying to get them and they have a drop rate of 1/50 mil.

The lava world 5 ones sorry I wasn't specific

[lost depot]

idk how the trapping critters bonus scales but it should also be very good

[serene forum]

This seems op tbh

But it would be a hard choice to do this, mainstat, or quickslap

Bob also

[viral snow]

Most of the people do

[gentle anchor]

is 15Om max dmg enough for kattlekruk?

[signal osprey]

Your 150m includes multikill and the 2x kills from lab but neither of those bonuses count towards drops so you're actually way below 150m for the purpose of the recipe

[paper sail]

Not really a hard choice. Tundra Logs are decently easy to click every few hours

[bold quiver]

i was checking the refinery ranks.. how does this part work? there are 2 11-6-3 , with different green pink nullo values, which doesnt make sense

[signal osprey]

The sheet is read right to left not left to right

To sustain rank 1 null you need 3 purple and 6 green

[clear shoal]

Ok I was just concerned if I don't something to glitch it by accident.

[signal osprey]

Rank 2 needs 4 and 8

Both of which can be sustained with 3 blue 6 orange and 11 red

[bold quiver]

still doenst make sense, why are tehre 2 11

11 red

[lost depot]

Just the way the graph was made

dont overthink it

[bold quiver]

i doubt a lvl 3 blue can sustain a lvl 8 green tho

[fading cape]

Because supporting rank 1 nullo and rank 2 nullo is the same red/orange/blue but different green

[signal osprey]

The first 3 salts produce 4 times faster than the last 3

So yeah it can

[bold quiver]

hmm ok i'll check it out then

[serene forum]

I mean atom only. No idea how someone can click hour to hour. Thats only like what, 10 clicks a day? Not worth it

[bold quiver]

omniphau procs

[granite grove]

2nd refinery tab is 4 times slower than 1st tab sooo

[serene forum]

Wym?

[signal osprey]

Omni can give printer progress

[bold quiver]

a lvl 2 blue couldnt sustain a lvl 5 green tho

[signal osprey]

If you check every hour you can do your clicks and then check all your omni characters. Every one that hits 3D printer gives another click

[granite grove]

do frequent 1hr afk claims for chance to get omniphau print claims

[signal osprey]

You can do multiple hourly clicks per hour

[serene forum]

Still lowkey not worth it unless all characters are out, no? At most it seems like 2 or 3 extra clicks

I guess its an extra atom day

[bold quiver]

do the math

[fading cape]

yeah I can't wait to get everyone to 425 for scarf so I can go back to omni

[granite grove]

then lv blue to 3, the chart is just for each increasing blue then nullo salt ranks

[bold quiver]

u will have 4 procs of omniphau per day with each character on average

[signal osprey]

Even without omni you still get more total alch levels per day from hourly clicks than you do from atoms

[bold quiver]

so x10 thats 40 extra clicks per day

[signal osprey]

The only reason not to click is if you cant play the game that often or just dont want to

Its objectively the best way to play

[serene forum]

Id only have 2 free characters realistically. 10 hours at 100% larry. 20 levels. Lets say i proc at a rate of 50% thats about what, 30 levels? Or 15 clicks.

Its best way to level but it sounds bad and diminishing.

[paper sail]

Your playstyle is your own

The most efficient playstyle is less debatable

[placid mural]

At this point, star talents are the only Thing preventing me from having a one size fits all class skill set for both combat and skilling

[bold quiver]

what u can do doesnt change facts

everyday u will get 4 hour of 3d print per character using omniphau (on average)

[signal osprey]

Even with no omni at all you still just get more alch progress by doing normal clicks

Omni just adds to it

[bold quiver]

so if claim everyhour daily u get 40 extra clicks + 24 clicks from yourself

[serene forum]

True. But it seems min maxing. Meta yea, but not as efficient time wise

[signal osprey]

Maybe for you

[bold quiver]

it is the most efficient time wise

[signal osprey]

Some people work from home so its not an inconvenience

I can already be at my computer every hour anyway

[bold quiver]

there is no other way to get realisticaly stronger besides hourly clicks withomniphau at endgme

[signal osprey]

Hourly clicks arent inconvenient at all

[bold quiver]

its not like it will take minutes to level up a bubble '.'

it takes 5 seconds at most, o open screen, click bubble and minimize

[fading cape]

same. I'm a slave to my pet traps

[signal osprey]

I do think hourly clicks are bad for the game from a balance perspective

[bold quiver]

yes its a very dumb mechanic to exist

[signal osprey]

But whether or not something is balanced and whether or not its inconvenient are not the same thing

[bold quiver]

we should just be able to print and stock as much material we are printing

[visual thistle]

For gaming, is it possible to evolve a plant 5 times? The mutation screen says 5 but... I've got a bunch of plants at four and that's all the guides seem to be saying is the top.

[bold quiver]

i have absolutely no idea why lava hasnt changed that for the sake of everyplayer

he must not know how awful it is cuz he doesnt play the game,so he thinks its somethig cool to have

[serene forum]

Hourly is definitely not convenient. On the other hand addressing this gamestyle would make for good content.

[signal osprey]

The thing is most players dont do it so its not a huge issue

[fading cape]

The time becomes extremely unlikely after like 4/5. You need to get your cycle time way way down and evolve chance way up. Honestly I don't think it's worth chasing anything more than 4 (outside of getting from luck) until after you have chemical. And even then, I wouldn't chase anything past 5

[signal osprey]

Speak for yourself. I can be at my computer every hour anyway and it takes like 30 seconds to click all the bubbles

[bold quiver]

thats why its so bad.

[bold quiver]

yes its a horrible mechanic to exist, very selective. Its like " if u can check your game every 1h u will be rewarded immense benefits" and if u cant u will progress wth only 100 or a little more upgrades per day

very selective mechanic

[signal osprey]

Well yeah lava has never been good at balancing his game

[visual thistle]

@fading cape Thank you!

[fading cape]

He just says, "Oh you think that's bad? You should see what's in the next world"

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkk

[signal osprey]

Unironically yes

W5 was ridiculous compared to W4

[bold quiver]

i stopped hourly clicking bubbles for a week already or more

cant bring myself to do it anymore kkkkkkk

[fading cape]

I do it when I randomly remember. But I took the timer off my laptop.

[bold quiver]

i got a feel good levels on evreything so it was good while it lasted

[signal osprey]

If you showed me what my current account progress is back in W4 I would assume that I was in W7 by now

Absolutely insane how much power creep W5 has

[fading cape]

I was thinking about that yesterday. Before world 5 the damage tiers and gains were like nothing compared to now.

I saw someone casually at 5T damage yesterday like, "Still working on xxx". When W4 popped that would have been an impossible thought

[bold quiver]

true

and whle w4 w3 its a slow grind to get power up, W5 is just RNG locked and moonshoots everything

[signal osprey]

A good endgame oak print in W4 was like 80m

Just think about that lol

[fading cape]

yeah. I'm not even close to comfortable on mine and I'm at 400m. That's crazy.

[fading cape]

and yeah. on oak sampling, getting good luck and getting the skilling efficiency artifact from nothing to eldritch will just straight moonshoot your account

but hey! We have decent fishing now. haha

[stiff kayak]

yo

now that i have the goat divinity i switch from bear to goat right and put them all in the lab?

[placid mural]

I want more class specific skillinger

Skilling gear

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[fading cape]

If you want to keep basically the same setup. Yes. You put them all on goat, and then leave them in Lab instead of on altar

[fading cape]

Just remember that once they hit level milestones for different types of praying, you need to go back to altar to change it.

[oak hemlock]

Guys is it good? Or +cap better?

[stiff kayak]

ik im just gona put them in vital for a long while

[signal osprey]

Its not really that important

Its additive with all the % increases from omar quests and plus unlocking all islands quickly isnt even a big deal as fractal is currently dead content for most players anyway

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/5e6d67705f830287e04d6dcc9d205fd9.png

another one down

thats 39, they're getting hard now

[opaque sun]

bottle is later used to upgrade rando island stuff, but its slight lower priority than say garbage

But its nice to raise it after a certain point

[fading cape]

What's the book on trash island do?

That's not the all stat % is it?

[signal osprey]

Trash island is just a damage talent

[opaque sun]

every power of 10 garbage you have, so not something to do early

Like as of now you would only get 2 tiers bonus at best

[glad crow]

BEANS god, am i making you proud? @signal osprey

[signal osprey]

A day at beans is always a good day

[opaque sun]

bean god is probably upset for you killing all of its kins

[glad crow]

Thank you for the blessed words, my savior

[signal osprey]

The killing of beans is a necessary sacrifice. Surely the kin will understand

[glad crow]

they must kinda like it, because they keep respawning

[signal osprey]

[little pagoda]

What's the god setup for sampling? Everyone on snake and someone on goharut? Anything else?

[glad crow]

the chars thats sampling on sanke rest on goat

[little pagoda]

Does goat stack with multiple characters?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[little pagoda]

Oh nice

Then probaby 2 ES and vman on goat if I'm sampling everyone I guess

[signal osprey]

Optimal way to do it is on a weekly reset so you get 4 div resets to maximize goats

[little pagoda]

I had zero unlinks from last week but I can't really afford to wait next week to sample lol

I'm just thinking I might have to drop goat on vman because I kinda wanna do speedrun with him first

[slim mirage]

my dk at beans is super slow on statues 😦
is there some kind of comprehensive guide to necessary loadout / stats / etc for beans statue farming?

[signal osprey]

Week 1 reset 1: 3 mages 7 goats
Week 1 reset 2: 3 warriors 7 goats
Week 2 reset 1: 2 SB, vman, 7 goats
Week 2 reset 2: Swap back to normal god setup

[little pagoda]

Crystal cards at maximum level you can get and being double by chip, and most importantly chocolate chip

[signal osprey]

Look at what we do to mimic a fraction of doots power

[little pagoda]

Very true lol

[slim mirage]

yea i dont have choc chip and I dont think it comes aroudn until dec

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/e1784d7777bcfabf299ad6d69f78c9a2.png

finally done resampling

[little pagoda]

I got mine from gem shop but it's RNG

[slim mirage]

ah

I have 1600 gems but I was kinda sitting on them for w6 stuff

[little pagoda]

I'm saving gems to maybe buy all jewels at some point but idk, I just noticed I didn't buy my 2 purchases last week lol

For vman speedrun nobisect is best right?

[signal osprey]

If trying for portals yes

For samples you would want snake assuming you can still kill 3 bosses with enough time left to sample

[little pagoda]

I think I might be able to kill 3 now but I won't be focusing sample now anyways

I really should try to do that later though, my monster mats print on him is already useless to me

[native onyx]

What's the quickest way to get the 17 unique statues for Monolith?

Was thinking of just running through the quest on all my characters

[little pagoda]

Kill crystals from w1, w2, w4

And 5

[native onyx]

I figured it would be crystals, cheers

[lapis mesa]

you can use the wiki and just go down the list, some of them have multiple drop spots, i wanna say it took 10 minutes? and i have lame DR

[tidal sky]

for farming mats with ES only MK, dmg and Dr are important right?

[little pagoda]

Yeah and probably don't use midas prayer

Or any prayer that increases monster HP

[tidal sky]

sure, also this is optimal chip for it?

[little pagoda]

I'll let someone else answer that one but seems good to me

[tidal sky]

no prob, when u farm for mats do you prefer going for full dmg cards or dr idk how much of an impact it makes

[teal lynx]

Does dmg give u another mk tier?

[little pagoda]

I think damage is a bit more important than DR on ES

Helps get to higher wormhole count

[tidal sky]

give me one more mk tier

[little pagoda]

And if I understand how they interact, wormhole DR should be much higher than natural DR. But I might be wrong

[teal lynx]

Then test 1 portal with dmg cards and one with dr cards. Or half dmg half dr. I can not give you the correct answer. But you can just test 5 min and know for sure

[tidal sky]

makes sense, thanks will test it

also does ES skill hotbar makes any difference like with bubo or it is fine just spamming everything?

[prisma drift]

Don’t use ice shards or page one light beam

Other than that it’s fine to use anything

[tidal sky]

then it is fine, i already do not use those ty

[prisma drift]

Those last two are bad

They will make your es not use other attacks

[ashen marsh]

this one isnt good right

[tidal sky]

it is bad

[dreamy merlin]

Just take them off, it makes es weaker

[oak hemlock]

How to get this statue?

[teal lynx]

Catching

[eager sedge]

Catch flies in w2

With vman

[oak hemlock]

Ty@eager sedge

[eager sedge]

No worries

[tidal sky]

only 100% eff, more afk% and dr matter for statues drop?

[eager sedge]

Ye

if u have 100% eff run as much dr as u can

[oak hemlock]

Thanks for answering

[sick sentinel]

speed might play a factor too

[eager sedge]

Imagine not having passive cards tho

[tidal sky]

true, thankfully speed can be maxed easily

[sick sentinel]

ye not much of an issue anymore

[eager sedge]

Haha yeah

120K more and done with this shitty quest

[sick sentinel]

what you goin for?

[eager sedge]

The corporatube ones

I have the rest

[sick sentinel]

nice its good to be done with this quest

[eager sedge]

Yeah

[sacred verge]

then its just greenstacking them 😄

[sick sentinel]

imo turn it in on someone who isnt going to farm them tho

[eager sedge]

[sick sentinel]

ye so you can greenstack em later

[eager sedge]

Vman

[sacred verge]

yeah 100% dont turn in on ES

[eager sedge]

That s who i will turn em on

[sick sentinel]

🫡

[sacred verge]

i think i did BB

[eager sedge]

Why is cooking so easy now and so hard early on😭

[sick sentinel]

vman nuts

[sacred verge]

vman made it easy

before vman cooking was totally something else

also superchow helps

[eager sedge]

I had 60B yesterday on first kitchen today 156T

[sacred verge]

but even without BB cooking its easy

Vman talent gives speed per meal lvl

[eager sedge]

yeah

[sacred verge]

believe me it was waaay harder before

[eager sedge]

Still need lots of work

[sacred verge]

yeah, it will become waaaay better

and the further you go the crazyer it gets

[eager sedge]

I should prolly book it to 180

[sacred verge]

just discovered ive been farming with DK on skilling preset and cards for a few hours... lol

[sacred verge]

book it to 245 asap

[eager sedge]

My sailing sucks i barely got normal fury 2 days ago

But yeah it will be one of the first talents i get to max

First will be tentacleye

[sacred verge]

yeah sounds good

work on eldrich fury

need that asap 😛 soo good

[eager sedge]

Yeah def

first lemme get ancient tho haha

[sacred verge]

go for it

[eager sedge]

Curently working on getting all boats to a higher speed so i can get to islands in 2h

but starting tommorow i should be able to sail with 90% on fungy

[sacred verge]

sweet

[green eagle]

guess that's quite a lot of talent points to get back for my bm

368% crit on him, resetting his talents to gain back a bunch

[oak hemlock]

30 per hour.....

[eager sedge]

Use food

[teal lynx]

Finally a good Increase

[lavish grotto]

Is this good to push to level 150 or could it be better for my maestro

[green eagle]

that motivates me to do some samplin' too

[teal lynx]

Just got my Weekly Reset. Had another Reset from last week. So finally some new Chop and Ore Prints

[green eagle]

my last sample, taken 53 days ago. need to hop on it again

[teal lynx]

Yeah. I also went a month without Sampling

[green eagle]

clickin bubbles all the way

just realized i could get the final level of this with atoms to spare

[rough wasp]

Is 245 max?

[sacred verge]

max book lvl yes

but you can get higher talent lvls

[rough wasp]

I need 25 more

[sacred verge]

with slug and the elite talent you can go over 300

[uncut condor]

Does God rank do anything other than boost damage through the es talent?

[sacred verge]

gives more divinity points

[uncut condor]

For more God rank? Lol

[sacred verge]

oh

sorry

i totally misread your question lol

it does increase div exp tho

[uncut condor]

I recently got last God and I'm just wondering if I can free everyone from lab/divinity now

[green eagle]

if you do anything with god rank just go to rank 2

rank 3 if you are sadistic or have people in lab still (you probably don't have doot)

[sacred verge]

from what ive heard rank 3 is the most you will get realistically

[rough wasp]

I needa push my divinity again lmao

[green eagle]

don't bother with anything higher

rank 3 is what i have

to get 100% i need like 42b divinity points

[rare grove]

which chararcter will get recipe from suggmas the fastest: DK or ES? (let's say both are equally lucky)

[green eagle]

es

[uncut condor]

I got sooooo lucky unlocking gods. I 1 or 2 tapped 25-50% on most of them so my divinity is still only 70ish across account

I guess skill mastery would still be good goal for divinity. God rank seems huge investment for the returns

[green eagle]

at least get everyone to 75 for printer output

[uncut hull]

where do you see your sample rate?

[sacred verge]

lol

[gentle furnace]

skill info>cons

[granite condor]

My pet arena lags out every time ~rd115. any tips?

[rare grove]

bruh, really?

[granite condor]

I want high performance on? Thought that would be equivalent to turning graphics to High mode which would be even worse

[rare grove]

you want high performance on

[granite condor]

Well there ya have it, thx

[rare grove]

so game generates less things in pet arena

and it gives you, well, high performance

without high performance getting to round 200 required a lot of preparations and I don't mean pets

turning off kitchens, getting to abandoned world without players

praying to gods so game won't crash @ round 199

using specific pet combo which produced less lag

[fast grail]

Dont forget that at that point, we didnt even have auto-use abilities, had to stop ba-dum at a certain point or you would crash more easily

pray looter didnt spawn too many amplifier's

average wave 200 run was anywhere from 6-10 hours long

[coral goblet]

made it to 300

[sinful yew]

Yo does the 🗿 head make the shrine world tour thing in the lab useless?

[balmy kiln]

Hey guys, how do you 1 click to get the max amount of items in a shop?

[candid latch]

Is the any trapping guide? Like for shiny critter gain, etc?

[candid latch]

From what ik you still gotta select how many you want and then click the quick button below in shop, from there you can buy with your click

[balmy kiln]

thats i! Thanks man!

quick button -> click the + on each item

[candid latch]

Most welcome and I think you helped me there too so thank you as well lmao

[signal lava]

hit 20m finally

[signal osprey]

Now do 100m

[signal lava]

one day it'll happen

[kindred dagger]

I not even at 1m

[gray thicket]

Is this rare?

[sacred verge]

.. literally 17 chems

give me peace

[signal osprey]

Harvest all

[sacred verge]

such a waste tho..

[signal osprey]

Gaming is the real waste

[sacred verge]

true

[signal osprey]

After you get the super bit for 1 red bit youre basically done

The skill does nothing for your account anymore

[chrome tiger]

one bubble upgrade yo

only takes 100 years to get

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure it doesnt even work

And even if it does its not a big deal

[sacred verge]

need to work on 1 red bit

[signal lava]

not really. they're on the drop table from every fish basically

[gentle anchor]

any breeding fighting guide?

ples

[gray zodiac]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084967526955499600

[edgy osprey]

And as soon as you get doot, divinity is useless, too

Only 1 to go

[indigo vector]

Finally unlocked berry bush after like 100 3% rolls

[edgy osprey]

I'm finally done with this shit

[nimble yarrow]

What is best dungeon card setup?

[green eagle]

Breeding, another on the pile of content DOA of another world

[solid epoch]

now get all of those shinies leveled

[green eagle]

Whatever you need, not really a “best” for cards

[edgy osprey]

Oh....right....

I'm still not used to those actually working

[green eagle]

Don’t worry, there’s only like 50 of them to do 🤣

They’ve been working for months now, you’re behind!

[gentle anchor]

i need to get to wave 5O in arena i cant get to it anyone have tips? im breeding 32

[edgy osprey]

Eh, won't take that long, most of them I probably won't care about anyways

[gentle anchor]

i dont understand this

[solid epoch]

i started by evenly putting all the infinite starsign shinies in the breeding area

[gentle anchor]

is that for me?

[solid epoch]

nah for raidon

[green eagle]

All of them are good incremental bonuses, and you want them all to be at least level 5

With star signs and a few others a few levels higher

[golden cipher]

Is it possible to check deathnote in idleon toolbox?

[edgy osprey]

Oh, now I remember! I leveled the infinite star sign ones!

[gentle anchor]

anyone?

[signal lava]

account ->w3->DN

[edgy osprey]

And a bit of other stuff.... Whatevs, let's see

[solid epoch]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1134957219889303552

go here and then go to the pets section

[edgy osprey]

Alright, new setup done....

[solid epoch]

i just started doing base critters per trap for my shinies. boy have i been missing out

base critters are super op

[edgy osprey]

I've got one each of the many of those I haven't leveled yet

[solid epoch]

thats a good idea too

[edgy osprey]

Imma just go through it left to right

[solid epoch]

i went ahead and just used a bunch of eggs for like 2 seconds to get every shiny bonus at the start. then decided from there

[edgy osprey]

I wanted to get the star signs first and then, when that shit with he who we don't speak of happened, I just lost interest in the game for a relatively long while and didn't give a shit

[twin token]

How much feasty effect do i need for 62 chopping speed with lgs

[solid epoch]

well i get 56 speed on my bubo with lvl 220 feasty for the logs. vman gets 62/hr since he gets double feasty effect

[twin token]

Why does he get double feasty effect

[solid epoch]

his statue talent

[twin token]

That works for everyone thi

All his bottom skills are account wide

[solid epoch]

not that one

the other tab

his personal statue one

[twin token]

Ohhh

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/AwCOwoK.png

[tall horizon]

Personal, like every class has

[solid epoch]

if i had to guess u would prob need like 1100-1200% food effect or somethin

[tall horizon]

Stupid message wouldn't send, now it's late and irrelevant

[twin token]

I forgot it effected feasty lol

[solid epoch]

its why Vman gets giga speed

more than any other character

from those speed pots lol

[signal osprey]

It also affects kapow so this update was a huge buff to vman kruk farming

[twin token]

Yeah makes sense now

[untold saffron]

Do we have any clues what all the new NPC models are for?

[twin token]

Kapil is crit dmg right?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[tall horizon]

The future

[twin token]

W5 update or w6 most likely

[sacred verge]

im guessing there will be a w5 colo

[signal osprey]

Its W6

[twin token]

Oh right one of the red ones was named w6

[signal osprey]

One of the gifs had W6 in the name of the file

[untold saffron]

Ah

[sacred verge]

when can we expect w6?

[fathom lagoon]

Sheesh finally unlocked the last spice!! Can barely get enough atk power to actually start foraging it lol, gonna take me 48 hours to get 1 spice 😭 but that’s all I need for them meals

[twin token]

Later this year maybe

[signal osprey]

Probably December at the soonest if I had to guess

[twin token]

Or early 2024

[sacred verge]

thats a long tease lol

[twin token]

Yeah lol

[signal osprey]

Well when he starts on a new world thats what most of his dev time goes to so we won't get many updates to the game

So if he still wants to post in future content it has to be W6 related

[tame raptor]

Hi everyone, i have a question. Do someone here know if I still can get the DR gem pack and if yes, how ?
Asked in gen chat but it seems more active here

[untold saffron]

Packs cycle occasionally or swap once you buy one

[fathom lagoon]

Yea it’s random I think

[tame raptor]

no trick to buy a specific one ? Thought so

[fathom lagoon]

And not uniform across all accounts if I’m not mistaken

[tame raptor]

Well it's sad that I missed it, but thank you for answering

[fathom lagoon]

NP it should come back for you eventually

[tame raptor]

hope so

[fathom lagoon]

3 days ago. From 100T to 21Q cooking speed sweet baby Doot

[teal lynx]

Time to gamble W4 Chips. Wish me luck

[fathom lagoon]

Good luck friend

[teal lynx]

Bottom Card Doubler, Multikill, Starsigns, And Skill Efficiency Chips. Could have been worse

[granite condor]

Why is DK better for rare drop tables?

[fathom lagoon]

I just rolled 2 for my first time ever, both were the same lol 15% afk fighting rate

Those are pretty good assume? I want chocolatey chip bad

[sacred verge]

never got a 15% afk fighting 😦

also no trophy doubler

guess i need to gamble a bit aswell

[fathom lagoon]

I barely have any chips lol this the first time I rolled them tho!

[tame raptor]

first time i bought chip i got chocolate chip

[teal lynx]

Last week I started rolling (Finally did some Gem Farming)
And got Choco + Top Card Doubler in my first 2 Rolls

[fathom lagoon]

Sheesh I want me a choco

Card doubler sounds sick too wtf

[sacred verge]

those are must have

card doubler and choco is soo important

[fathom lagoon]

Double ruby blitzkrieg troll sounds nasty

[sinful yew]

Yo does the 🗿 head make the shrine world tour thing in the lab useless? I still haven’t been awnsered of this question

[fathom lagoon]

No it doesn’t make it worthless, it expands it, basically let’s you be affected by shrines on all worlds instead of just the world that has the shrines in town

But to lvl up the shrines you still need to play in the world the shrines are in

[teal lynx]

I bought both Bottom Card Doublers in the last Month. Trophy and Necklace are coming November and Choco in December. So start farming if you need that much time

[signal osprey]

Almost all rare drop tables are available on crystal mobs at higher rates than on normal mobs and the DK orb affects crystals

[fathom lagoon]

There are few things in this game that are useless & the ones that are were mostly made useless by companions tbh

[sinful yew]

Uh so I would only need it to level them up?

[teal lynx]

I believe with Head and World Tour active you can level them in each map of the World they are in. So hopefully in W4

(Unless you got Doot) (Doot Abusers)

[signal osprey]

Just be a chad alchemy abuser

[barren otter]

need to buff up your food effects

[solid epoch]

ye i know

havent done the BEANS long enough

[barren otter]

with 220 feasty

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/poHXENa.png

[barren otter]

lmao

mines way lower than that

[signal osprey]

I should probably level that up some more too

[barren otter]

wait dude how am i higher chopping speed with a lower stamp

are you sure yours is 56?

[signal osprey]

Either higher feasty or better chopping speed cards

[true obsidian]

yayyyyy

[solid epoch]

yeah its 56/hr, its probably my cards

[barren otter]

ah its the cards yea

[viral star]

loooks great

[barren otter]

our feasty is the same

[solid epoch]

i havent maxed the chopping speed ones especially since i get 62/hr from the other boost food

[barren otter]

yea im kind of almost already done with rubying chopping cards

[solid epoch]

im at 4* wispy lumber and 2* dandioli tree

[barren otter]

2* dandi

[solid epoch]

yep i know lul

[barren otter]

oh i can get to 61 speed in my sample card set

need to up feasty a bit more

[signal osprey]

I need to finish my dandilogs at some point too

[clear quartz]

just had my first afk claim since testing out elephant, now i wish i had doot for moar of that

[signal osprey]

Doot is a crutch

[dapper prism]

Get lustre and yellow one while getting statues for 100k on something like vman, ezpz

[barren otter]

finished that a long time ago lol

imma go back and do those cards once i get 1k skill lvls

[vestal delta]

i just got doot so I'm thinking of moving everyone off of div/lab and into gmush

1. I'm wondering if it's worth it to pursue god rank? I'm only at godrank 2
2. I feel like it's probably going to be inconvenient shrine leveling to have shrines at gmush

any thoughts?

[sacred verge]

god rank is not worth it

shrines w4 town

[dapper prism]

Dont need god ranks.
Move shrines to W1 city, not gmush itself Alternative is W5 city if you need to do a lot of progress and key farm

[humble valve]

hey guys whats the best map in w4 to splice?

[signal osprey]

Cans

[sacred verge]

from what ive heard w4 town is better than w1. do you believe w1 is best?

[vestal delta]

well if I'm moving all my chars to gmush, then w1 town is probably the play right

since only BB will be left in w4 for cooking

[signal lava]

w4 is good when you had permalab people

[sacred verge]

not if you lose alot of hours

also why put everyone on gmush?

[signal osprey]

It really depends on how far your current shrine progress is

[glacial venture]

w1 town wont lvl shrines if all on gmush

[signal osprey]

If theyre close to leveling you'll lose more than you gain

[glacial venture]

shrines must be on gmushmap

[gentle anchor]

whats the fourth liquid in alchemy?

[vestal delta]

my guy

[glacial venture]

shrines only lvl if on same map as chars

[signal osprey]

No

That bonus makes them level in the entire world

[glacial venture]

you get effect on all maps of a world

[signal osprey]

They level in all maps too

[glacial venture]

really?

[signal osprey]

I leveled my DR shrine when I candied W4 eclipse skulls

[glacial venture]

hm...seems im wrong

[signal lava]

world tour let's you level from that world. artifact only you still have to be on the same map even though bonuses apply everywhere

[sharp ruin]

How do people get max stack on smithing items? Feels especially slow for me but trying to get those maxed vials

[white cipher]

max stack like 10mil?

[sharp ruin]

1050m

[signal lava]

level your smithing bubble

[white cipher]

i recently redid all my smithing items the best advice I would give is make sure the speed is at the max that it never exeeds the 24 hour limit from the skill

that way you get max gains and never have to check

[sharp ruin]

Smithing bubble is 203, don’t think that’s holding me back too much. Have automation so there shouldn’t be downtime like you’re saying sho

[signal osprey]

The hammer bubble will give you more speed than you can ever need

Level it forever

[white cipher]

i thought automation only did every 24 hours

your gains can exeed 24 hours and then its not producing

[signal lava]

it does

[sharp ruin]

Ah, that’s probably doing it. Makes a lot more sense now 😂

[signal osprey]

Yeah the auto arm for smithing is trash

Pretend it doesnt exist

[white cipher]

yeah you might just have to check in more frequently

[sacred verge]

best get the habit of collecting every time you log on a char

[glacial venture]

sadly its trash...hope lava changes it sometime

dont forget to collect when candying on an archer char

[sharp ruin]

Man, RIP like 6 mo of gains

[signal lava]

should have just made it work like the furnace ore thing

[vocal ibex]

It's been like 3 days 15 drop rate for sugma. Any suggestions ? I've done afk and active over night

[sacred verge]

is it only w2 colo that breaks from Midas?

[dapper prism]

Idk, took me a day to get 900x and the recipe

[white cipher]

i just set mine to all only hit max cap under 24 hours but they aren't wrong. it only really effects anyone doing the first three items bc they are so fast. like you will never have to worry about thingamabobs or whatever

[signal osprey]

The furnace one is pretty trash too unfortunately

[sharp ruin]

Yeah, getting a billions thread is going to hurt

[vocal ibex]

900x?

[signal lava]

is it? never had any issues with it depositing ore

[vocal ibex]

I'm still kinda new idk wat that means

[dapper prism]

of the 1/50k drop

https://i.imgur.com/vKJJpXX.png

[signal osprey]

You get like less than 1% of the bars you realistically should be from the archer talent

[vocal ibex]

Ahhhh okay

[dapper prism]

Average on recipe would be 1k of those green ones

so it's kinda around what you're getting for that too

[signal osprey]

Its simultaneously the best and worst part of the forge

[vocal ibex]

Ahhhhhhh awesome I see some light at the end of the tunnel now thank you truckz

[thin rose]

@dapper prism Appreciate your Vman nightmare kruk video, helped ALOT

[vocal ibex]

Trickz*

[sharp ruin]

Checking this out rn!

[glacial venture]

problem with furnace is that you need so many ores for a bar but it seemingly only refills when changing chars

[vocal ibex]

Like how you had the ss ready

[dapper prism]

How many are you on? 🙂
Just got it the other day xD (was only like 5-6 screenshots back)

[signal osprey]

It refills on afk claim

[glacial venture]

like i said...change chars^^

[signal osprey]

So if you kill enough mobs to empty your furnace 100 times on your archer it will empty it once and then refill it once on claim

2 minutes and 2 weeks = the same bars

[vocal ibex]

Going to be a while

I'm let it afk though

Gonna active bubbo or something

[dapper prism]

You're on ES, right?
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[vocal ibex]

Yes ES

[dapper prism]

^ my stats, time

cant imagine how it takes you 3 days for 100 greens

[somber sparrow]

does the all for kill bubble "attack talents give offline gains" also work for skilling talents like logs on logs?

[vocal ibex]

I deposited them also paused

[glacial venture]

i hate to kill nm troll 100x.....

[dapper prism]

Ah, so thats not all of them?

[vocal ibex]

So I gotta start all over with the afk time I'm start right now check it tomorrow same time today

[glacial venture]

key drops are so bad.....

[dapper prism]

idk i don't afk, that sounds like little to no point

[signal osprey]

I believe it does but logs on logs doesnt count. The fishing and mining talents are affected though

[glacial venture]

logs on logs is a buff

[vocal ibex]

Alright I'll let it run active. Was trying to be productive. 1 thing at a time though

[dapper prism]

You're welcome 🙂
Btw, do you or did you have any suggestions to the pin, any changes needed?

[glacial venture]

fishing and mining must be cast to get effect

[somber sparrow]

aaah that makes sense, thanks!

so its still worth for copper samples

[vestal delta]

does pet breeding procs apply time to shiny pets too?

[dapper prism]

Nothing affects shiny time except if it says "shiny time" like some of the shinies

[thin rose]

The post itself is perfect!

[dapper prism]

Also, do you know how much dmg you had and how long it took?

[sacred verge]

can i do multiple colo runs on the same DK orb?

does it still count when i leave and come back in

[wind umbra]

yea u can if ur orb duration lasts long enough,but each time u change map the orb count resets

[sacred verge]

ah alright

[prisma drift]

Wings #2 down

[sacred verge]

but it dosent show?

[wind umbra]

yeah orb is just cosmetic as long buff is there u good

[signal osprey]

The buff in the top right corner is what matters

The physical orb is irrelevant

[thin rose]

about 30bil and over an hour easily

[sacred verge]

got it, thanks

[dapper prism]

That sounds rough

[thin rose]

it took me a while to get used to it

[dapper prism]

Oh wow. so map changing with orb buff works, does this mean it will still increase with each run?

[signal osprey]

No the count resets on map change

But assuming you have the buff up you will be able to stack it again during the 2nd colo

[dapper prism]

Oh okay, so reset count, but count goes up from fresh

Never tried b2b runs (also havnt really done w2 colo), how easy are they to go b2b and how many do you usually manage, only 2 or even 3?

[signal osprey]

W2 colo is a little weird because you have to actually spawn in all the first waves and wait out the skilling nodes before you even drop the orb if you want enough time to do 2 runs

W3 can pretty comfortably do 2 runs and W4 can do 3 runs

[barren otter]

whats the expected amount of W4 keys you should get from colo?

[dapper prism]

Think someone said 40 or 60 the other day, but no clue 🤷

[barren otter]

ok yea thats roughly what i was getting

[wind umbra]

iirc i was getting ~200 per run with dk but its been a while

[barren otter]

200 per???

[dapper prism]

ill try a run quickly

[signal osprey]

Definitely not 200 keys per run

[wind umbra]

maybe misremembering

[dapper prism]

did 1 run:
https://i.imgur.com/ISWiykf.png

[signal osprey]

You might be thinking of ladles or something. I could maybe see that being 200

[wind umbra]

oh maybe

i remember the number 200 lol

[barren otter]

ok cool

[dapper prism]

Good candy 🤤

[barren otter]

yea depending on chest rng

i was getting 40-50ish

[dapper prism]

Thank you for getting me an easy 24h candy xD

[barren otter]

:)

[vestal delta]

oh my god I finally got it

[quasi galleon]

We really need to make Trickzbunny an index pinned post, his messages are so damn long you'll forget what you were trying to find by the time you finish scrolling past his posts lol

[signal osprey]

Be the change you want to see

[quasi galleon]

Something like:

Links to various guides and helpful posts

**New To W5: Divinity - #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
W4: Onyx Statue Quest + Tips - #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
Vman Nightmare Kattlecruk Strategy (With video!) - #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message **

[signal lava]

the onyx quest post is also pinned in w4 chat. probably doesn't need pinned in both

[quasi galleon]

Very true

It is W4 content after all

[pearl cedar]

Just make !trickzbunny a command that pulls all the tips

[quasi galleon]

But then I'd have to update it everytime he has a new one

If he had an index post, he could add to it freely

[dapper prism]

Thank you for summoning me, how may I help you?

[pearl cedar]

Good bot

Broke less often than Dyno