#lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ
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Yeah I need to push mine. It's only level 2. Need something new to focus on
I actually just finally unlocked chemical a few hours ago
I'm thinking the next major things I look to push are actually fishing and catching prints
clean 100% 
They've been kinda written off as a meme for awhile because chopping and mining do a lot more for atoms but some of the early resources are already within hourly click range
With some decent investment the meme isnt actually really a meme anymore
Yeah and atoms arent worth too much anymore. So secondary prints are going to be the new thing
My goal for now will be to get gold fish down to single slot hourly and sentient cereal to at least 2 slot hourly if 1 slot isnt feasible
like i would still use excess particles for cook atom, but not that in a hurry as meals are still becoming lv60 as of now
yup gotta hourly click bug^2
Purple 7 uses cereal
no u
I would click it a few hundred levels at least to get it off nblb
bug^2 to like 500 or something and then swap to chopping clicks
whats the max level for the color cauldron upgrades
170
any tips to boost new bubble chances besides boost or bubble breakthrough?
farm on bubo and click it 100x
4% not bad. Just active bubo
start doing CC with bubo to acumulate thousands of clicks and then go ham with it
so what do you guys think the w6 bubbles chance will be down to??? like 0.1% xDDD or less?
i love this

you can already unlock them
i know but im to lzy to attempt them xDDD
There's a chart in #1084911530417606656 that shows which bubble you're on based on the bar value
just fyi
oh yeah, forgot evan had put that up
yeah, im to the first w7 on each cauldron so far
What"ΒΏ
why you level 45000
yes DK on beans
took me about 15k keys to get that strung tooth its rare to me π
i still dont have chiz wings π¦
and I cant kill nightmare kattle on my mman .. how dafuq , i need like 100M damage im guessing
took me like 10 mins with 60b dmg on vman
im barey pushing 30b atm
100m is really low damage for Nightmare kattle
haha yea that would be better, but its doable on around 30-40B
kachow helps now that you can actually level it
only put in 10k and got to lvl 97 from 18 and it gives me 286% on vman
only just logged in first time 14 days , farming 20k power statues now
whats next stage of quest ..?
collect 100k statues
any statue ?
yes
yea
sweet
on that character with the quest
pretty quick to do both DKs and I did my 3rd on ES farming w3 statues
if you do the quest on all of characters you can get 100k kachow statues
if you have candies, its pretty easy to get 100k from dreadlo
dreadlo has best DR but forest fibers work
Well, that was easy
nice
i got recipe from afk too XD
all those noobs who spent a week there active on ES hehehe
Basically done with vial as well
Is there a bug with beast master and Kruk?
Whatβs the best map to do Crystal Cooldown on?
Wurms
Thank you.
ahhh magma knuckles xDDD i can only think what the next iteration will be... a 1 in 50B recipe for w6?? xDDD
Not that Iβm aware of, I had trouble because my BM kept on kicking the boars
I figured it out. The moles heal on a timer. Not based on distance. So using "Stop right there" keeps them back, and they are out of range and die and heal
i think drop rate will probably be nerfed from 1 in 50m after new world comes out
did previous recipes DR got nerfed when w5 came out???
Troll helmet got nerfed from 10 to 3 spools
Oh, the only droppable recipe was W4 splicer, and don't think so
not sure about drop rates tbh, but I could see it being 1 in 50m to slow down progression while w6 is in the works
well crafting recipes yeah but i mean the actual recipe drop, tough i think it was only the splicers at that point so we have no point of reference
the crafts required a lot less of the rare resources. And some items had nerfed drop rates. But they weren't from W4, they were like W2 quest items like ghost
hopefully the DR will get better once w6 comes out if only just to give players an easer wa t get the next weapons
Ghosts didn't change for recipes. 10x cost but 10x more common
1 in 50m is kinda ridiculous to be new standard but not like it is really that bad of a grind
yeah ghost drops got better DR but more cost on recipes
It was due people spending a week for the effaunt quest
I didn't say they changed in recipes. Said drop rate was nerfed. The pearler shells recipes were greatly lowered
we shall see in a few months when w6 is ready
yeah we have had lots of instances where crafting materials needed for many recipes have been tones down massively
does dk orb multiply card drops?
cards are effected by anything that increases drop rate. So yeah
dk orb effectively increases the base kills to determine drops so yeah
When w6 comes out will alchemy boost caps also increase?
170 has been 170 regardless of worlds
any tips for boosting voidwalker dmg? my other characters' max dmg is 10B-60B while his is only 500m
The reason lava chose 170 was back then its wasnt capped. But the average end gamer had around 150 at the time (only few legit players had 170+, and exploiters had 20000000)
exploiter was able to get infinite cost reduction by overflowing the cauldron rate on mobile
To stop people from exploiting, lava added a cap and chose 170 as it seemed like the effective max that people can reach at the time
Any there is not much reason to further boost the cost buff now that materials cap at 1b anyway
w5 statues done!! only 1 in W3 and 1 in W1
His biggest dmg boost comes from the maestro skill, where it increases dmg per his lowest skill lvl (like fishing). Should give you a bigger boost
Wait do we get the 10k kachow statues on every character?
is it too late to get the summer bonus even though I have the coolers in storage?
Pretty sure it's too late as there's no more popup that shows your progress
damn lol
W5 alchemy bubbles and maybe green slapstick
Yup, so 100k in total, 20k go to unlock the onyx, the other 80k i would recommend slow depositing to get the most out of your Yellow bubble 3 (statue progress)
Bad example vid here: #lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
Finished dumping all my statues earlier:
We're pretty close on a lot of it, although your middle row is nicer π
https://i.imgur.com/rylCqMg.png

also damn thats a big kapow level
You get it from doing the 10/10 monolith quest
did you just deposit 1k at a time ?
You dont do all that small, you just need to make sure you only get 1 level up at a time. gets easier over time
depends on the class like 5.5x or something
Thats insane 
I really need to sample sometime soon :/
me too heh
XD
im torn between just sampling or getting my characters to 425 for divine scarf
which is like 6/10
Class xp multi x ?
i can get 22-23x
π
took about 12 hrs on my SB from 389
Active?
Ive got too much to do
my whole plan the past week was rush divine scarf so i can sample
but i didnt realize the level requirement on it
Might just give my alts more kattle gear sets and finish my last 3-4 worship skulls
I should/could maybe get more of those scarfs so i dont have to move things around :/
well if you lucky like me... you will get like 2-3 wings but no scarfs ><
I got 4 necks within 10 kills once already 
shiiiit
my last sesh i got 2 scarfs and 1 wing from 7k keys
i now have 2 wings and 1 trophy cuz im a dumbass and didnt do the quest first time
definitely get to 425...
I setup quest on everyone right away xD
and it's the only active quest i have disabled, so everyone sees it
XD
I should also do the same with w4 worm quest (mush)
just to be good if i fk up my mush kills
welcome to the snail... i have 55.4% chance to lvl up... but it will not happen for you.. for the 4th time in a row ><
Ffs full worship charges too.. and wanted to do TD first, but thats so slow :/
Good luck !!!
Maybe if you were Good bacon and not evil bacon π¦
damn boi XD
It's so damn time consuming :/
Last thing i wanna do is 5x TD's
ye :/ as a idle game.. it take a lots of time XD
im 1 char off of 450 all
TD needs hp nerf by 90% on bosses or something
and its the worst one
how does shiny pet levels work?
Gg the BB
its not even my BB... lol
BM actually the worst
You click the shiny button on the usual pet ui to spawn shiny, then toss them into fence.
Nawh, i did 450 all except BB and Vman.
maybe i just hate my BM
BM was a bunch faster imo compared to BB
I had to give up on my BB for now xD
I saw the sheet, but how do the levels of shiny pet help? Does it increase the effect stated on the wiki?
my BM XD
mushroom gives +3% shiny pet level rate according to the wiki
Yes, the higher the level, the more bonus.
Always stop at level 5, except for 1x Level 6 on infinite stars
sweet
Start with shiny pet rate and get them all to lvl 5
Toolbox has a great display for shiny and how long it takes
do they have to be in the fence for the bonus to apply or only for leveling them up?
Nope, it's a passive. So if what you can do is make 1 shiny of most pets, toss them into fence to unlock the level 1 bonus, then trash the randoms kinda thing
so you don't even need to keep 1?
Yeh but you wouldnt be using 1 shiny, you stack them
just put 1 of each shiny into fenceyard and never look at it again ez
correct, once you unlock the bonus, it's passive and you have it
sweet, thanks for the info
So i would for example, make 1 shiny of this, toss it into fenceyard briefly, then remove it, easy passive 2 str. pet can be deleted. while i work on setting up the more important shiny stuff:
https://i.imgur.com/VrCvPPO.png
Yeh just overall, level 5 is the max you should really worry about for now
so i should get 5 of each of the +shiny level rate first then right
im gonna active my BM overnight
yeah i meant 5 shinys in the fence per mob

That i don't think actually matters itself. as its just time divided by number of pets afaik.
Since you have 27 fenceyard slots if you own all, i like to have 3 different types of pets, 9 of each. so they all finish in i think 5 days or 7 days forgot.
I dont like mixing and matching too much, did that at the start and it gets really tedious with their timers.
sweet, thanks a lot for the help, will make this easier
π
That quenchie looks a bit fed up
he stays there til 7
That looks so inefficient xD
eh i just think of it as sigils now
set and forget
not like 2 of the same shiny gives more total speed than 2 different shinies
so overall speed is same just less maintenance
and you get all your bonuses on the same day all at once XD
but.. you wont be getting the bonus for that whole month
worth
lost here, multiple of the same shiny lvls its bonus faster?..
yes..
xD
and for infinite star sign pets, lvl 5 their max right
i think 6 for all of them
5, and 6 for one. unless you want to prep for the unreleased red ones, then 6 on all. (or technically higher if we get another page)
you laugh at my active BM, but i have 52x class xp
itll be fast trust
ughhhhhh and to think i got down this rabbit hole cause i used Idle toolbox to plan for magma gear on all chars
dang i didnt know you were a GT gamer
my base is 30x ish?
For that bit, does that mean if you have 2x at 425, rest 450+ you would have to switch them out every other level? xD
sounds like something trickz would do 
Me? i dont even do hourly nor daily clicks π
yeah good point lol
any of em
well technically tremor wurms i guess but its not like you have any respawn mechanics on vman
you usually just go to the highest map you can for exp
If your crystal rate is high enough you have enough to kill without real downtime
especially if you toss on some mob respawn chips, could time it with aoe cd
Haha np, also else you could always try stuff with lower respawn times. if you dont care about xp
Also remember to only do it every 2nd level, as you can finish 1 level and setup the next on your same run.
Not sure if these W1-w5 spreadsheets are outdated on respawn time etc. but if not may be a good reference point
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1097026665118449785/image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1104314402850742303/image.png
Frog is 40s, 34 mobs
Wurms is 47s, 35 mobs.
wtf i had no idea they had different respawn times
Not sure, as said not sure how outdated it is π€·
it's time to level up the best shrine in the game
3rd shrine is best π
3rd shrine best but crystal shrine my favourite
Crystal is 3rd π (by name)
But if you mean crystal rate thats crescent, not primorial π
yeah i meant crescent
Either way, always be leveling both crystal + crescent, with a poison in the 3 trims
for me at least*
need to unlock lvl 100+ shrines
Thats not a lot of hampters... Should i focus more on dr while afk and not kills/h for more hampters?
You dont grind hampters afk
But i guess you could, xD
but ES Active ftw
And if you have ways to get more DR, then always go for that
But overall is this a good card setup?
MK does nothing for drops
Same as damage at a certain point
But works on getting eclipse
So it comes down to your purpose
if you going for hampter then go for DR
Ok i see
MK if your aim is eclipse skull
Is it better with midas at afk or midas is purely best active?
ahh yeah no active midas on ES or you will make the portal mobs insanely strong too fast
Btw guys on what gods did you put your chars with doot because i feel like im losing some bonuses with my old gods setup
i wouldnt mind a delay if it meant that it would be more polished though
is there a spreadsheet or source for alchemy for optimum levels?
getting a bonus to 90% is good enough
I'm curious, the Pong controller can be upgraded by the imports tab but it says it is all skill.. knowing lava i'm not sure if this is realy true. anyone knows of the lvl ofthe pong controller has effects on the game?
should i keep focusing on the more bit gain?
i got 52 for 3.5 days of afk lol
yeah base value is real important, and pushing to reach the extra sprout storage when possible
do i send it
aight then
gamba
id just do the 5% till u get a 100% odds but if u wanna yolo go for it
waiting game
well at least u found it lol
@weebgasm thank you
There is a known behavior that even with doot, purrmepβs minor link bonus doesnt activate unless someone is linked to purrmep (main effect applies always tho if you have doot)
Else i just put the rest on badgur and kattlekruk just in case they become some god effect that doesnt allow having dupes
There are 4 new fish at the island, yeah?
Hm, can't seem to get the last one then
Oh, nvm, I'm dumb, didn't realize it had 30m eff to get it. Haven't seen that icon since I started lol
the event ended??
Yes, Aug 28th.
is there going to be post box upgrades for W5 skills later?
there are already boxes for sailing, gaming, and divinity 
just gotta unlock them
with Silver Ankh and Billcye Tri Artifacts, is the +1 extra box chance 100% or 50% 50%?
sounds like you get more than +1 extra keys then.
i get a chance to not use keys from something
you also get bonus boxes on streaks
yea, ok so theres no point in getting the urn relic if im capped at 100% =\ would have been great to have 3 50% chances to get +1 each.
Nah, it maxes at 100% for +1
do u have 2 ES ?
yeah
I can't open the 4th one every time it's failed
is it better than 2 bubo?
I would say yes, ES gets better afk kills for shroom farming and stuff
I got two bubo in lap but I feel bad for not opening animals in w5 (I know they not called animals) how can I know every animals in the game do u have wiki link for that?
!divinity
CsΓΆΓΆ them monsters bro ur insulting them
2 ES were useless when you have 
What kind of animal is Magma
yeah this too lol
What is tow bubbos good for
my luck is so bad I think I will never have this 
but if ur making classes looking ahead 3 of each then double ES better than double bubo imo
good at nothing , you can turn them elites at w7οΈβ£
it honestly doesnt really matter
Why
lab and farming money and open portals
those last 3 classes are kinda useless lmao
U can use one
theyre just extra prints
Why tow
cuz u can link two gods with ES so bigger prints
yes and 2 in lab
and they get better gmush afk
different if u have doot ofcourse
cuz then it dont matter
use the bear in w5 u can use bubo and he will stay active in lab at the same time and 2 bubos can increase line width 2 times for characters in lap
these things become irrelevant overtime
with all the different lab width buffs you can get
but I think when my characters in lab reach lvl 75 I will switch one bubo to ES
the problem when I opened w4 I skipped the lab because I didn't have time due to studying and after 4 months when the Semester ended I start levling in lab π
so my best width is 200

I feel like there is something i dont understand with post office. How do you get so many boxes?
its okay unfortunately the lab just takes time theres not much you can do about that
just farm silver pens and reset orders
reset orders is basically free orders to be filled
but dont neglect your other skills like cooking there are some meals that give line width also
So can you turn in an order, reset it and turn it in again?
yes
Jeeeeeeeeeeesus... i have been neglecting xD
and reset once you filled the 101th order if you want to conserve resources as reward and cost stop scaling beyond that point
you can burn through pens if you been crystal farming
i dont have the time to bother getting the myriad crate done
like, fill 101th order, reset again but not fill 102th order, then break order streak so you can have the next order start at 0 again so its cheap
I honestly thought, post office was just the biggest waiting mechanic. Cause i have been handing in once a day
do you have DK and at least 10 DR?
Close to atleast, been working on other stuff. But I could finish up my obol farm and get beyond 10 dr
maybe DR 8-9 still should be enough for pen farming if left active overnight
without any realmoney spend based i can go above 15DR
18~19 if 1.2xmulti bundle was purchased
idk just click
Well I definately know what I am working on once I get home again..
pay attention to this tho if you want to farm 100 boxes every day instead of every 2 days
important to leave the last order of the day unfilled without streak protection
Definately, thanks a bunch. Still so many things to learn in this game π€£
am I the only one progressing through w5 with like 11k/h? :p
If you click on a pen, you can reset a completed order.
so complete an order, use a pen on it, complete an order, repeat
Thereβs also the atom that auto converts pens to boxes at a much lower efficiency, but no effort
Yeah I get it now TIL
i'll just spam
lol i woulda ran outta gold bars by 5k
I've seen lower 
its not about the journey, its about the destination 

The destination is beans 
how did you know where i was? 
always was
All my homies farm beans 
active?
yea
remember to filter obols or your shit's gonna crash 
way ahead of you 
pro gamer right there
If I place shrines in w4 town (Lab upgrade) do they affect w5 areas or only w4 specifically?
or ask bro to delete 1st obol slot for hours
with 1st artifact , yes
1st artifact has its bonus to affect all world
right it has been awhile since getting that i forgot about it. Cheers
but in term to level them has to be at the same map/world
So there is no point having Shrine World Tour in Lab if you have the sailing artifact
well, the shrine exp mechanic uses world tour
Moai doesnt affect the shrine exp part
And its not like avoiding world tour lab node will get you to a better lab position anyway
filter the food too
if you're actually going away for that long
Filtering hotdogs is painful but yeah you'll have to I guess
The hotdogs are saved 
hmm now that I'm thinking about it do statues follow material cap size?
can never filter the glizzies
or do they just not have one in player inventory
Statues cap at 999999 in player inventory
ah that's still pretty good
less than my mat cap
but not like i farm 1m statues a day so
i wish i could active on my bubo as well
so i wouldnt have to get off my DK to get liquid
or better yet give me orb on bubo 
It wouldn't even work unfortunately
Orb likes to recast on cd and with 3 sec tent and raise dead you would just be spamming it
fk
Would never get it stacked up
can never have cc and orb together 
The real big brain play is printer go brr on bubo 

1 brr per CC woo
like garaunteed 5 clicks an hr
ES portal on bubo 
would probably crash the game
Portal with tent gets buggy too like the orb
oh right it's a buff
That happened when lava first added elite swaps
Just have multiple portals open 
Some players swapped bubo to ES and somehow kept tent
So they kept spawning portals
damn
it's sad to think that if you combined all of BM and BB's skills together, it would still suck
tent wont break orb as it recasts at certain point of the remaining duration, not βas soon as recast is availableβ
If whale enhancement was added to bubo, eggs would actually change rarity at noticeable speed
Even when doing active BM to get his class levels for family lv5000, egg rarity went very fast during those days
Hey, where I can find all constalation locations?
Wiki
IE definitely has them
Indeed but sadly I still cannot find them on map xD
Low money multi sighted
Yeah. I randomly clicked on that
And do you know where is constalation in town?
I believe at the end of the Artifacts platform
Only 11 Dr and 1.1 B Gmush :(
Gotta get those numbers up, not allowed to see void coins in w5 
One day I'll drop godshard from wurms 
I'm at about 20k/h in the late w5 maps, and when you're looking at 2m+ kills, it's starting to feel very uphill! I've decided to work on other things instead, like skilling, while I wait for my damage to catch up.
Yes

What money multi would even be required for that? 500mx-1000mx?
I have no idea tbh. Also depends on if you're using IE or IT
ah, refering to IE
IE leaves a lot of stuff out for money so multis are lower
yeah, no dr, no arti i know for sure
Also no harriep
after the doot incident sludger kind of not updating IE as much i guess
still got a long way to go if i want money
my gmush is still relatively
so gotta work on that, but everyone skilling rn
My 10th char SB probably killed more things than the whole family combined
anyone know what mob im missing for super chow i am at 69 so excluding doot gmush i am still missing one, i got the nutto and the extra poops and rift
69 sounds like fine
69 is the current realistic max on super chows
Its just doot gmush and boop
ah ok thank you missed the boop :)
you can zow and normal chow boop, but not realistic to super chow that
Sidebird and Underbird, maybe
I can be the bottombird
Iβm finally cooking π§βπ³
does the speed and/or damage bonus from party starter cap?
Speed u want 300% usually
Thats the cap but its not rlly a cap
Got elderich steak before fury lol,
no cap iirc, just that cost itself is the effective cap at some point
Steak is better damage wise though. For sure
best map to farm 100k statues active on bubo?
Is cooking worth lvling up on voidwalker or should i just be doing my bb?
U can easily get every1 to lvl 20 with some bloons
also u need 3 to lvl 20 for a constelation
Or 4 i don t remember
But if u wanna lvl don t let afk just use bloons
ok ty π
np
should i go for more garbage or wait it out till the new bribes? already got the first stamp
Bribes

im also going for bribes, as i already have 6 20% upgrades.... after i get bribes i would probably do 3 more 20%'s and the begin with the stamps
Alchemy
π
Alchemy is always the answer.
Nonono
I mean
Should I get all to elite
Or keep them lab trapped while my es pushes on 2x portal kills
Idk if alchemy can help
Wait kpk Nevermind..
get all to elite
then put them in lab
not the other way lol
push with 1 char and the rest on lab assuming if w4 as you dont have all elite yet
and also alchemy
I made my 8th and 9th literally just for lab and traps, 7th js mman canβt rly get elite on him yet when my es isnβt even 130 yet
Dang I had 7 chars entering W4, and got all 10 so I could fill lab faster.. and I thought that was pushing fast π€£
So what woukd you say is the best class for dungeons?
Prob dk still
es dk vman
Alright sounds good...only got 687 more tickets to use
what bubbles are highest priority for atoming?
larry to begin with
to what lvl
Like 1000-1500 id say. If impatient like 501+ for 100%
got a lvl 182 larry (77%)
my main problem honestly is i cant bother doing samples so im generating a bit few atoms
Earlier you get larry to high level means more levels of other bubbles in the long run
did you invest trash into more bottles? i heard that rando is useful once you have bribes
I currently have tier 6 trash production and 80 trash towards bribes
bruh how do you have so many more bottles than me? hahah
Gemshop ?
i bought them aswell
i won 80 bottles on day 1 from the giveaway thing
then it checks out hahah
Anyone have a picture of the fishing bait chart?
tyyyy
Np
tot(al construction) lv over 750
i was talking about the library one but yeah i get it now
finally got my 20k power stautes....now, is ES the best to get 100k statues?
Tot(al) Con(struction) Lv(el)
whats the best char to deposit my first statues?
Ofc best would be dk, but you don't have 10 dk
so still use dk for statues?
don't really need crystal kills anymore right?
since it can be from any statue and not just one in particlar
you get statues from crystals tho
What is this from
DK still best for 100k any ststues
rift
And you cant really choose what class to do 100k quest anyway
Oh, to the building not talent
ah, haha good point
Non-dk usually faster to just candy mine on dreadlo for 100k statue
back on the shrine grind to get to 200
whichever class doesn't have 100% dreadlo efficiency to candy your statues
Active yes. Afk no. BB gets better statue rates at dreadlo than non warriors do and dreadlo is the best afk statue farming method
Dreadlo node ?
Never thought about that
I thought I was gonna go on beans for 300 hours
DK and bubo can farm their own statues pretty easily. Everyone else its faster to just candy dreadlo
AFK while farming eclipse works great for me aswell
its not the fastest but still is passive income
What influences div exp? Wis stat only ?
SB or Vman for oceanman's?
So why I have different exp her hour on each character
i dont know i finished divinity 6 months ago
box (office ) maybe ?
classes
Tab 2 specialized exp talent for mages affects div
Oh yeah
any recomendation for dealing with nightmare katle on vman? i got 8.5b dmg "wich i would say it's low but idk how to upgrade it more" but still the adds give me alot of problems
8.5b would be a struggle, but all you can do is run around punching moles until your pentagram is up to give you some boss time
i did 80b dmg with 6 minutes
so dont do it lol
i literally spent 1h with bb so yeah if it only was 1h of work i would do it
yeah bb took longer for me than vman aswell lol
ive heard ppl doing N kattle with 30 b
how much dmg was that? lol
15b but then i got tired and swap gear and made it 60b
15b 1h was half hp
auto?
manual
damn
i had to go bathroom
thats rought
someone section this man until the mental health act
60b didnt take too too long tho i guess?
20min
still pain
yeah, if i can clear it with vman i can clear it with the rest
uppdate me on how it goes lol
dont do it lol
im sure there is plenty of other stuff for you to do
im kinda interested to see how it plays out lol
the scarf and trophy is a great reward for the pain
true
i can
haha thats also a thing
so dk is the only person that can equip anyhting
yeah i forgot about that lol
yeah and i want it for it, trophy+scarf
you must lack something big idk how your vman has that lil dmg
if u want i can share my screen
you can send ie if you want
do you have dmg chips and card doubler chips?
is bullseye statue super slow to grind or is it me doing sth wrong? it feels slower than w4 ones
i have both, ima change them
your vman has better tools than mine haha, but all my chars have shitty tools especially skulls and traps
should i use candy for these 2?
impressive the fact that you have 3x the wood mush kills that you have red
i focused quite hard on my vman xd
do you have doot?
nop* i did have it equipped
because i'm let them afk at wood right now, but it took 100M kill/day so...i'm lazy
try and activate the dmg jewel when you fight somehow
just got to 4 days off log game lol most i've gotten was 3 days before
i do have them active
greenstack luste ore, all woods and all fish
I'm curious, the Pong controller can be upgraded by the imports tab but it says it is all skill.. knowing lava i'm not sure if this is realy true. anyone knows of the lvl ofthe pong controller has effects on the game?
The third monolith quest consumes the 100k doesn't it?
idk i never felt like greenstacking give me that much dmg
do it
nope just 20k power for the 1st one, the other is just collecting 100k
just checked ,
do you know how many greenstacks that is
can i have that for 2min?
get more urns so you can upgrade the luck stamp
i used to having 60b~ when doing nm kattle
it gives plenty of dmg
i got it today the stamp
quick slap is a good way to build vman dmg
and i hope you leveld the cooking talent on one of your vman presets
It does nothing
get them cooking lvls
k thnx
is cooking 28 but isn't bubo better for cash anywhay?
?
dont level him in cooking, the vman talent gives absurd cooking speed
also you have a bunch of easy slab items to get
like shirts and weapons
ah yeah that's maxed
Soon, Soon-ish, and π΄
just half of a year π·
sigils grind :S
i guess ill just greenstack for the time being
Yeah, I did w1-4 in like 3 days at 200b dmg and 13.5 DR
at his stage he should be able to greenstack all worlds without any trouble
yeah i can greenstack w4-w5
remember to dont filter out food so you can work on greenstacking them aswell
my main isue with greenstack is that then i use them for stamps/alchemy and lose them again xd
your ES isnt even at the end of w5
i made the mistake of filtering out food for soo long
thats why i did like 13m instead of 10m of everything lol
i alr have
is your ie not updated?
on IdleonToolbox you can subtract green stacks and it will tell you which stamps you can level to not lose greenstacks
ES is doing moles it tells me
oh ok
i guess i should use toolbox again
Let's goo I'm here now
is this t6 plants? bottom left upgrade
ok ty, guess i'm just unlucky 
i personally didn't obtain a single tier 6 yet and i left it there for like a week
been like 2-3 weeks kitsune active, still no t6
and have a decent plant/min
this is my first day active, and i got berribush right now π
well... it's decent ish, but still, 2-3 weeks w/o a plant evo (no gaming gains :c)
lol, 1b stack on the path to 20k statues π
damn
Is there any guidance on what to buy on shimmer island?
Any priority for the star talent book?
Look at my gear πππ (Iβm level 237)
no excuse for that
make rings....
i have 2 W3 and 1 W1 to do
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t7tj1KOwpVAAWgiucgs8oJ2B3iqp0KHT/edit#gid=1742532979
put in your info in the spreadsheet and see how many days/months it will take you on average
But getting stuff for gear is so much work.
it's like this much work 
literally 600 iron bars for steel ring....
i feel like turning in my statue already, even if im missing total of 3
for the stamp mastery rift reward, is that "gilded stamp" permenant or for just one upgrade? 95% cost reduction permenantly would be so OP
ty
it can go up to that but everytime you upgrade 1 stamp, it turns back to 0
They are consumed. You can earn 1 per day though and can hold a seemingly infinite number
is just for "one" upgrate of mats. not the one who cost cash
oh, so just one upgrade though on that stamp? The mats arent reduced permenantly?
no π it like a one time "use" on mats π
Correct. One upgrade is all you get.
dang that kind of sucks
wtf my free pet chance today, it just straight to molti first.
+100% drop/exp rate nice!
but you can saved idk as manny you like ( if you lucky and get one ea day) and "stack them that way π
missing doot and the one after the crystal
You can hold multiple Gilded Stamp discounts, but you can only use 1 per stamp increase.
Level 5 treat? I think the white tier pets drop to 0% so would make sense if they got skipped
Though Bored Bean should have been before Molti I thought
definitely opals for the all stat%, why rex tho
@scoli the hard candy (jaw breaker) one at 3x chance
Use rex for skill % efficiency if base stats are low - opal if your base stats are high enough to outweigh efficiency from rex
time to W1 ES active
I'm not sure at what point opals would give more efficiency than rex rings but that point is definitely very high lol
Do you guys know the GriffyBit efficiency link ?
Which kattlekruk gears are worth making?
He's made a pretty big deal about never making his IE profile public
maybe cause he has stuff to hide lol
We all have our ways of playing the game ig
all of the souls i'm leaving on the table π
i share bits of my ie here and there, but i don't share my link or make it public. i don't like people digging through my profile telling me what i'm doing wrong. i find out for myself 
i mean you can share it for people to see to showoff, dont have to listen to them haha
Sometimes whales don't want to share how much they've spent either lol
Idk, efficiency in this game is skewed depending on how much money you put in
Although Brave sped-run getting to W5 in 10 days?
Or if you're smart
does the log give progress to the snail in gamming ?
I wish
Yea i want the link of griffy just for compare my account whit him and to see where i make bad decizion
O did a Jr. Chat Mod just get fired? - Saw it go from 3 to 2
You're right, I'm a bad discorder
Nothing speeds up Snail currently, no.
I wish something sped up progress on nuggets
I got banned from the Player Feedback channel, so idk what's going on with my gold nuggets or rework chips post atm
I mean technically chem plants, logs, and fertilizers all speed up shovel for more attempts
The chances for a big nuggie are so abysmal though π
So much effort for potentially so little
when is it more worth to level sigils than cauldrons?
Never. Max cauldrons entirely first before starting Sigils
aight how do I best distribute my 10 peeps?
Does the xp penalty on the printing prayer apply to everything? Ie divinity lab etc
I believe only main exp
Yea, nin's right, just do sigils until you're ready to cranium cook, then put everryone on cauldron
Assuming that you have bubo going
Not everything because several skills use their own unique XP system and ignore generic "Skill EXP"
Best prayer, hands down
But once you're at W5, you'll get exp bonuses everywhere
Lol damn it. I haven't been using it due to fear of that. Then read how good the prayer was
I mean
Definitely worth it to maximize prints to upgrade skilling/stats in alchemy to get higher prints
Grind Time is Class EXP only. Their question was around Skill EXP.
Hey guys who want to give me proficiency link to see what i make bad ? I want to print more staf like wood , staf from mining so one
Once you get higher levels though, skill exp is kinda useless unless you're trying to get skill mastery
Don't wannt outlevel ur vman
Guess I'll reprint this week with the prayer. Should be nutty prints
Remember that 90% printer sample rate is cap
Rift's exp boosts are all additive and pretty small honestly (e.g if it says 25% boost, it just means +0.25)
750 for printer output is great though π
Don't forget snake god
I've got everyone at about 50-60 on everything mostly due to divinity pearls and balloons
I need to finish balloon / pearling cooking one day 
Thanks for advice everyone
Cmon scoli, its only a million balloons π
Not that bad lol
balloon exp rates are so bad
~2-3k small balloons per character from 1 - 50, assuming you use 0 pearls
I'm going to try and get all the quests done on my mages and warriors before I resample
Going to be a bit lol
What is considered an end game oak sample now?
I've seen over 2b
I'm still trying to get to 1b lol. Haven't resampled in a second
Statues and quest eff talent make a big difference lol
Anyone got a comprehensive "best place to farm x statue" list or guide yet? some seem to be average pacing and others are such a pain
It's pinned
Pins
when converting materials to atoms what happens to the extra materials? For example converting 11m materials, to 1 atom what happens to the 1m materials? Is it just wasted?
for all of them...?
Yes
Why ping me back instead of just looking.. Yes, the list is every single statue.
I'm loving the character designs for world six so far
Should be no waste. Only multiples of 10m are converted
ok, i didn't know that. thanks
iirc there is a thing with decimal atoms, like with those excess 1m but it wont be usable until you got enough of a full atom again? need confirmation
ty
getting close to next island should I get fractal or rando? Saving Crystal for last
Trash-->shimmer-->seasalt-->fractal-->rando-->crystal I think
probably W6-7 elite classes
Perhaps
I think new classes start w7
In roadmap it said that at least
Wonder what w6 skills will be if no class
The new classes will be in W6 and 7, it's just poorly worded. That's the order they'll come in.
troll helm better than chiz helm?
it clearly says that its specific worlds tho?
not even a comparison
so it is?
The way itβs color coded makes me think classes will be with w7 and 8
doubt w6 as the classes are color coded with the worlds they are on top of
so why would it be right beside it then?
But of course lava isnt a marketing guy so probably doesnβt actually mean anything
Not sure what this means
gg
close together i mean
I mean technically I see both ways
The classes are above the worlds which means they could come before
But they are also colored the same as the new worlds
No, it's saying that we'll get W6, then 3 elites, then W7. The old roadmap was like that too.
So it could mean either tbh
Yeah the line breaks support w7,8 class releases
Are we gonna ignore player housing tho?
That old road map donβt mean too much 
what is player housing supposed to be tho
Probably like any other game where you can buy/ get furniture drops
Then decorate a house
what do even do in a house
decorate it with the insides of the mobs we have killed til now?
Just how I like it 
the green spores will be a cap of pride to wear ig
would be cooler if we could decorate say w6 town instead
maybe
but we kinda decorate the town with the stuff we unlock anwaysy
Having read the island description again. I might do rando last. You need bottles to upgrade stuff there and you should be saving up for all the islands first.
like w5 is artifacts and gods
atleast make NPC available in "house"
w3 is the construction stuff we do
w4 is all the meals and the sentient players we have in a floating tube
He does streams showing off new stuff I havenβt seen any of him drawing or anything like that lately
Anyone else have terrible luck getting the molten core knuckles drop? I have over 3k of the royal urns but I can not get this recipe to drop lol
Yeah
Took me like 4k urns
oh god
well hopefully im close
my friend was like oh it so easy, I got it in like 3 hours and he only had 400 royal urns
already said that in a couple messages befroe
lol
400 urns in 3 hours 
but yea
cool way of putting it
are the fractal bonuses working and are they even that good?
I have been farming it for weeks lol
I think he never even active farmed it either, is there merit to that or did he just get lucky?
I have been active farming it on ES with about a 12 drop rate
The bonuses work but they kinda suck. Also theres a bug where fractal afk gains give fishing progress instead of nothing progress making it so you cant candy the bonuses
Basically its the last island to get. Even crystal is better until the bug is fixed
Thanks. Rando and Fractral dont seem that much better compared to Crystal at this point.
I dont have enough candy to get all bonuses at this point anyway
Which part of the lab makes bubbles cheaper?
Vial doubler
how many atoms to upg it?
one set of atoms:
i only just got to 3.3
how much was that 1 set?
5.5% boost to my construction
42 atoms Balgeroth
42 clicks
my Larry is at 97% so I missed once I think
97% Larry???
any tipps for nightmare kattlecruk on vman? I have 16 bil dmg and i see progress when hitting the boss but i cant kill the mobs fast enough
Actually even better than just 5.5% because the real value in build speed is that it also gives con exp too
So you'll be leveling faster now as well
Larry belongs at 110% 
10% +3
sure... but why not 11%?
Makes me happy seeing +3
lol
You can do it but it'll take a long time to pay itself off
Fuck it might get Crystal Next instead of last. I dont have enough candy for Fractal and I don't really want to spend bottles on Rando upgrades. Not sure if Trash gains are that much with Rando either.
rando uses bottles?
Trash gives bottles % too 
It uses bottles for the random event upgrades
Iβm gonna hit an event every day when I get the bribes