lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[feral whale]

I think it’s more likely that fierce endgamers are sitting here, because I remember trying to ask questions in other chats, and not answers at all

[iron mesa]

This question is already fuckin annoying

[short fulcrum]

mad huh

hahahaha

[iron mesa]

Nah

[short fulcrum]

you guys got nothing better to do anyway

[viral snow]

Touch some grass

[short fulcrum]

yeah, you should

[iron mesa]

Don't shake

[short fulcrum]

you have to be a very sad human being if you know how many times a question has been said in a discord chat in an idle game and then think it's a good argument

[thin rose]

W5 chat in a nutshell

[thin rose]

Endgamers are in #endgame-gen-chat none of them disgrace themselves by talking here

[iron mesa]

You have to be a very sad human being if your gettin salty cuz of check pins msg

[short fulcrum]

I don't think so

you just tried to say a comeback

but it sounds weak

like you

[iron mesa]

Ok, cool guy

[short fulcrum]

aight

[thin rose]

[barren otter]

[vagrant mountain]

just realized this event ended, time to open

[feral whale]

i dont have this shell hat(

[still comet]

Hey i know alot of people grind world 5 with bubonic conjurer, is it fine for me to do it with my old friend ES?

[floral raven]

Yes

[still comet]

Ok then, now i will throw my bubo to lab while DK and ES fight world 5

[floral raven]

Throw beast guy in lab and bubo still in world 5

[still comet]

The problem is, I'm having trouble with length of the line in lab so I can't really do that

[floral raven]

Ok ok

[still comet]

So basically I'm having ES,DK,and BC in one world?

[floral raven]

If you wanna push it with more characters

If not do skilling a bit

[still comet]

Ok then, what skilling tho, my only priority is the line length thing

[floral raven]

Ok go for lab

And make your tools of boid if you can or if you didnt did them

Void*

[still comet]

...ok, so just throw them all in or?

[floral raven]

Not all

Dk and Es to push

[still comet]

I'll just keep ES in world 5

Ok then

[floral raven]

And the others idk

Some to divinity

Some to lab

And the rest idk

[still comet]

OH YEAH I HAVE BERSERKER FOR FISHING, time to make him sleep in a test tube

[floral raven]

Man

You need to get didvinity

[tall notch]

Damn i need 2.8k atoms for +10 skill max. Thats gonna take a while

[still comet]

So put some into a religion and experiment on the rest...
Ok then

[floral raven]

You need to get the 5th god

The goat

[still comet]

You mean G.O.A.T or just a straight up goat god

[floral raven]

Straight uo a goat

Up*

[still comet]

Damn lava straight up put the best god the real GOAT

[floral raven]

The goat God perks is if your in the lab progress will count for lab and divinity

And damage as the second perk

[unkempt pasture]

best way to farm w3 statues?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/OuZAKe9.png

[thick warren]

Is it more efficient to level up statues 1 level at a time to take advantage of 'Startue Exp' bubble?

[glad crow]

just lost around .63 dr.... any ideas?

[vagrant mountain]

cards or obols?

[vale wadi]

trash Island is sooooo slow:P

[vagrant mountain]

maybe a chip doubler?

[glad crow]

gear, chips, cards, cardset, obols and preset is all the same

i also have the prayer

[vagrant mountain]

maybe you changed your SB talents?

[glad crow]

never mind, i thought chips was correct, but i used the pendant doubler instead of trophy doubler....

🤦‍♂️

[vagrant mountain]

its always a chip i swear

[glad crow]

getting closer

btw what tower levels is needed to unlovk beefy prayer?

[vagrant mountain]

i think its something like level 47 poisonic with 20% atom

nvm im thinking of zerg

[tropic kiln]

What should I get with 2k gems I have all cauldron upgrades 4 furnace 3d printer and anvil

Oh and 4/8 cogs

Or is there like a gemshop tier list

[kindred dagger]

Leveling aside, am I understanding this right - shrine world tour only works per world, but moai head works for ALL worlds at the same time?

[vagrant mountain]

storage slots

[tropic kiln]

I dont need some currently

[vagrant mountain]

i like to buy green lab chips from shop

[glad crow]

btw how many green bits is 1 red bit?

[vagrant mountain]

1000Q i think

[split canopy]

My boats stopped continuously traveling for better chests, I don't remember which upgrade should cause that

[glad crow]

sb 11 skill

[split canopy]

ohh thanks, must have switched preset

[tacit tulip]

though it's generally better to not use the talent

[split canopy]

there are less chests, but the quality is better if afk for couple of hours?

interesting trade off

[fast verge]

lets FuckING GOOOO

(hamter)

[tacit tulip]

gzz on th e hammy boys

[untold lintel]

main tip for div starting is get all your characters in divinity until you get the 5th god, goat god, and then you can put all your characters in lab AND divinity at the same time AND get xp for both

[still comet]

And how long is that?

[glad crow]

[untold lintel]

i think it took me about a week maybe two to get the 5th god

[glad crow]

i should really begin focusing on getting damage up

[untold lintel]

but its really needed genuinenly, its just afk simulator for about a month once u get in w5

[still comet]

... you know what, i have nothing better to do

Why not

[untold lintel]

its worth it and you gotta do it eventually anyway, youll also get useful gods and boost youd need anyway, but the 5th god gives u divinity and lab farming at the same time which you can do till u get where u can run the whole lab with like 5 characters

[still comet]

I have school so that might district me for some time, it did for 100 day consistently and i forgot that i have idleon downloaded

[glad crow]

schools usesless.... just get top grades in exams and you are golden

[untold lintel]

thats what I did lol

[vale wadi]

why do we need so much hampters:P

[sacred verge]

crafting, vial

magma weps and material bag

[still comet]

One more thing,
Do i need to put ES AND DK to?

[vale wadi]

yeah, They dont fall a lot... just got anvil 5 so now try for the bags wich involves hampters

its hard:P

[fast verge]

BANG

[sacred verge]

lol

thats a waste

[frigid acorn]

why town ?

[sacred verge]

literally the worst use of those

[fast verge]

bro vman got capped 💀

his ass is not killing

this looks very nice however

[last quiver]

oof overnight forgot to click auto on

[neat sentinel]

yo guys is there a special channel for idleon efficiency reviews?

[frigid acorn]

if you wanna get roast i suggest #endgame-gen-chat

[pearl quail]

how do u unlock that

[neat sentinel]

dont have access

[frigid acorn]

id:customize

[crystal raven]

1hr 242 statues

[fast verge]

where is the best place to farm dice obal?

[frigid acorn]

dk on pot

[fast verge]

mk

[bold quiver]

slowly but steady, grabbing 1 or 2 clicks here everyday

[steady beacon]

I don't have access to this channel either, but I already selected "show me everything" in the channels and roles. what am i missing?

[frigid acorn]

browse channel

[thin rose]

How many keys a day do y'all get from active DK at wurms?

I feel like I'm lacking

[steady beacon]

I have all 26 channels ticked. Are there additional hidden channels ?

[thin rose]

That's endgame talk he linked

[bold quiver]

around 100 per hour

[thin rose]

I wish

[bold quiver]

how many do u get per hour?

[frigid acorn]

there's all 28 which guild-recruit and endgame-talk ,you're lacking i think

[thin rose]

Maybe 30-40?

[bold quiver]

thats a good number

[thin rose]

14 DR 700+ orb

Feels kinda shit tbh

[bold quiver]

its a 10k drop rate, 30-40 is great

[steady beacon]

Alright. So how do i access the endgame-talk?

is there a status i need to enable somewhere?

[bold quiver]

when i was farming keys i placed everyone on that map kkkkkkkkk

[thin rose]

Yeah but active it feels low

Like I woke up to 600 keys this morning

[bold quiver]

u could try dropping with bubo, maybe its better for u

[thin rose]

I'd like to get more honestly

[bold quiver]

just need to get stronger

why are u missing so much DR then

[thin rose]

I have 440bil DMG with my DR setup

[bold quiver]

is your DR prayer maxed? all cards with DR at 5*?

[thin rose]

I think 3 have 5*?

[bold quiver]

Boss cardset at 4* at least

[thin rose]

Prayer is maxed

Boss cardset is 4*

[bold quiver]

get all cards to 5*, why are u missing that

[thin rose]

I can't buy anymore modifiers lmao

[bold quiver]

complaining about low drop when u havent even finished farming DR

need to unlock rift 46

[thin rose]

I'm at my 10/10

Yeah you're right

[bold quiver]

missing a bunch of stuff there

[thin rose]

I don't think I can with my damage tho probably

Probably should wait till I have a trillion on 2 characters no?

[bold quiver]

440B with a drop rate setup on DK is enough to get rift 46

[green eagle]

440b should easily get it

[frigid acorn]

idk then , 👐

[thin rose]

Hmm, aight

[green eagle]

i had less than that when i did it

[bold quiver]

yeah ofc, rift requirement is only 100B on ES for 45

[green eagle]

you just have to play differently than "push auto, do something else"

[last quiver]

100b I only have 200x dmg to go :(

[bold quiver]

yeah i remember having to cheese the clear all monsters map before timer runs out to reach 44 kkkkkkkk

[thin rose]

How do you cheese that?

[frigid acorn]

cant wait rift 51 req of few Ts to clear

[thin rose]

I know you can cheese afk kills but that's about it

[bold quiver]

company secret!

its pretty obvious to be honest

[thin rose]

Sczammed

[viral badger]

Guys is it possible to pass rift 1 with a BB or i'm just wasting my time

[last quiver]

no idea

200m can get you to like R36 though

[pearl cedar]

What is rift1

[teal lynx]

Just use ES, DK or Bubo for most rifts. And never play BB active

500 kills in 5 min. I just checked

[pearl cedar]

Oh lol why would you use bb for that.

[teal lynx]

I guess BB got most dmg for them or they just like playing BB (like me before DK and ES were released)

[last quiver]

@pearl cedar world 4 special area

[stiff kayak]

should i start spending points on what?

[opaque sun]

while at it, might as well super chow at rift 1

[last quiver]

you can super chow rifts?

[pearl cedar]

Lol I just meant what is the Challenge for rift 1. Been like 6 months since I've done it

[last quiver]

so if you miss rifts you're just scrwed?

[teal lynx]

No

[last quiver]

rip

[teal lynx]

All rifts count for 1 Super Chow stack

Doesnt matter when u super chow rift

[viral badger]

Idk i just like the name but his talents are crap

[teal lynx]

It is just easier in early rifts, since u can mk them

[last quiver]

wish I had known

[viral badger]

Thanks man

[teal lynx]

Currently super chowing at Rift 41. 140k kills an hour. It is misserable

[viral badger]

Mk them ?

[last quiver]

yeah just checked i'm 111k kph

[teal lynx]

Multi Kill. Getting more afk kills, because your dmg is high enough

[wary girder]

best place to active my dk for statues?

8x drop

[viral badger]

Oh yeah

[opaque sun]

if possible, its easier to finish rift super chow on earlier waves, but its not worth delaying rift progress just for that

[teal lynx]

Depends on Statue. Beans, Pots, Wurms (Pins have all the locations)

[wary girder]

ty sir

[old portal]

is 0.02% decent chance to get efury?

[teal lynx]

Btw you can check your Progress on Idleon Toolbox. There are a few locations u might have missed. Like the Poops at Dr Defecaus or the second nuttos

[green eagle]

at gigas or sandy pots, to work on your DR

[last quiver]

I'm only at like 14 superchows, about 1m kph in most places

[green eagle]

close to 1500, then those shrines get to restart

[old portal]

should i get my first few onyx on vman now? just to get some bonuses up and running

[faint acorn]

Do the poops in the office count as a separate zow stack? Toolbox seems to think so, same with the nutto in the roots ect

[granite grove]

iirc yes

[faint acorn]

Thanks!

[tacit tulip]

The invisible gmush in doot map counts too, but as you can't afk that map it's typically not worth it

[tidal sky]

which cards do you guys use to maximize class exp? the best ones are the active ones right?

[opaque sun]

moonmoon is usually enough. Flies are okay too

Other flat exp is negligible as it is additive

[rustic garnet]

Why onyx on vman?

[sacred verge]

moonmoon multiplicative?

i thought every exp card was additive

[rustic garnet]

moonmooon is on a different mulitplier

it's on 'active exp'

[sacred verge]

now how does that work?

[tidal sky]

currently my cards are like this, i think i could improve if i changed the crystal cattle to chaotic kattle

[rustic garnet]

what are you trying to do?

sorry meant to reply to chillo

yes, 69 is the 'normal' max

[green eagle]

all those additive exp cards are kinda meh

[granite grove]

wait there is,oof didnt saw

[tidal sky]

want to get everyone to 450

[tidal sky]

hmm but what could be better? i dont need dmg i think coin?

[rustic garnet]

ok, active exp is grand, rest sorta DR's if you have Grind Time at a good level

are you one shotting everything?

if so, it doesn't really matter

[tidal sky]

hmm we have those DR exp breakpoints right, do we have that table pinned here?

[rustic garnet]

DR exp?

Isn't it just for coins?

I didn't realize there was an exp breakpoint too?

[tidal sky]

maybe it is just coins , I'm just mistaking things

[fast verge]

i hit double digit dr

[opaque sun]

Single poop card is better than all those flat exp cards combined

flat exp is like whatever

[tidal sky]

then it is just better to add coin% or up my dr to a breakpoint if not yet on it, do we have that breakpoint table?

[exotic saffron]

hey guys is 1 in 34 crystal chance good or can it be way better?

[tidal sky]

it can be better, but it is good

[opaque sun]

its good for a non vman

[true obsidian]

this need lv 501 to be 100% right?

[rustic garnet]

Can this eyeball be chowed? and where is it?

[granite grove]

whats the known highest crystal chance for non vman rn?

[opaque sun]

the 999 is likely chiz spiky balls that is static 999

[rustic garnet]

nin, I recall 1/9 for some reason?

it's something low like that

[exotic saffron]

ye its for my dk

[rustic garnet]

1/8, 1/9

[tidal sky]

idk maybe the text here is not 100% accurate

[granite grove]

at least ones reached by players

1/9 non vman? oh wow

[rustic garnet]

oh NON vman

1/27

I read on vman 😄

[opaque sun]

If Larry is at exact 500, due to lava formula it procs 0% chance

[granite grove]

oh ok ty, so need too push stamps bit more

[signal osprey]

Non vman can get 1 in 26 almost 1 in 25

[opaque sun]

Lava oversight of fomula changes at 500 but forgot to include 500

[true obsidian]

so...i should stop at 497?

[rustic garnet]

is that with near max inventory ?

[granite grove]

501+

[tidal sky]

go to 1000

[rustic garnet]

Sounds like you should go to 501

[opaque sun]

Like get it 501+

[signal osprey]

At 250 crystalin with 21 shrine its like 3.9% which is just shy of the 4% for 1 in 25 spawn

[opaque sun]

There is no reason to stop at 100% btw

[rustic garnet]

you can get a +3

[opaque sun]

Its worth getting to 110% or even 115%

[tidal sky]

I stoped at 100% because i need to up other bubbles I'm not getting enough atoms a day to dump 40 bubble levels there yet

[rustic garnet]

I think aiming for 1/26 is a good stop point till you land srhine 22?

[signal osprey]

The thing with crystal spawn is the more of it you have the better it gets so there's no reason to not push the stamp regardless of shrine level

[rustic garnet]

ah

[signal osprey]

Also the game uses the % value not the 1 in X value

[true obsidian]

sad that this is 2 times larger than my atom/day :<

and i don't believe in my Vman

[tidal sky]

u get more atoms a day than me and don't have it at 501 yet

[true obsidian]

he give me x1 5 days in a row :<

[true obsidian]

i don't even start grind for 3d print yet

[tidal sky]

How high are u guys upgrades on this, just so i know how much should be improved

[last quiver]

you're way above me i'm 50s

[tidal sky]

howw

[true obsidian]

i fck up a little bit, playing without know what to do

[last quiver]

also how are you at 23 water an hour? i'm 10 w/ 50speed

[tidal sky]

u have 4x my bubble there

[tidal sky]

hmm maybe rats critter?

[signal osprey]

More wisdom is always a good thing. Thats not a fuck up

[tidal sky]

also 3 chars there

[true obsidian]

but i don't spend anything for other bubbles like dmg and skill eff

[signal osprey]

For liquid speed most of it comes from decanting but the salt lick bonus and stamp are both very good too

[true obsidian]

my Vman now stuck at 1000M dmg, can't even tickle the boss for trophy

[signal osprey]

Then start on those now.

The 4k wisdom will always be good to have. Just switch focus to other bubbles now

[true obsidian]

upgrade Quickslap for vman dmg right?

other said best dmg bubble is last 3 bubble, but it cost so much atom

[signal osprey]

Quick slap will scale better than those 3 eventually

[tidal sky]

what i though this bubble was trash

[signal osprey]

Its the single best source of damage in the entire game

[true obsidian]

one more reason why my dmg is trash...

[signal osprey]

But it takes some time to get there. All 3 base damage bubbles are quadratic scaling so they get stronger as you level them more

[true obsidian]

it been 3 weeks since my last artifact upgrade

[tidal sky]

are you kidding me
I was sure base dmg bubbles were not good

[paper sail]

How high is your Larry?

[true obsidian]

i thought HP/MP scale like 10,100,1000 so it not as good as speed, bc speed scale different?

[old portal]

can larry get past +2 now?

[signal osprey]

I have to stress that it takes quite bit of levels for it to really shine but yeah its the best. And by quite a bit I mean thousands

[signal osprey]

1573

[old portal]

whats the next break point for larry?

iam at 501 tot its max

or hard cap

[tidal sky]

the wording here is unclear, like it does not specify how it will calculate the dmg above 110 ms

[signal osprey]

All 3 are quadratic so they scale very well but the quick slap formula scales even better than the hp/mp ones which is why its the best option

[tidal sky]

what is your IE?

[signal osprey]

https://weebgasm.idleonefficiency.com/

[true obsidian]

what i suppose to do with these chemical?

[paper sail]

Larry Hard cap is 120%

90% bubble effect is at 109%, level 991

But beware. It'll ruin all the dopamine of clean numbers 😭

[signal osprey]

At least with bob having a clean number isnt a huge deal because you never stop leveling it anyway

[paper sail]

Hollow victory

[signal osprey]

This on the other hand

Has been haunting me for months

[icy jewel]

its crazy how much further you end gamers actually are

[bold quiver]

1 more day! does anyone know if that bribe is worth it?

[icy jewel]

dang

[bold quiver]

bribe sry

[gleaming belfry]

i feel like i am making no progress in gaming

idk when i got a 7k nuggest but i haven't seen anything over 500 since

[icy jewel]

this game is weird... it seems like you make a huge jump in gaming/ sailing etc. then it slows down hardcore

[paper sail]

You're looking at our highlights though

[signal osprey]

Theres a bribe that helps you get more trash gain but other than that nothing crazy

[bold quiver]

kinda? to me it was more of a snowball

as soon as i got to w5 and farmed my drop rate stuff i just snowbaled the game

[icy jewel]

eh im only a month or so into w5, couldnt do much with it since i rushed straight here and hi9ghest alchemy bubble was like 20 at the time

so ive been back tracking all month catching up on mechanics i ignored completely

[bold quiver]

ohhhhhhh definetly, there is a HUGE wall because u have enough materials for a ton of alchemy but u dont have liquid for it also

[icy jewel]

yep

[bold quiver]

after u unlock bubo gameplay your progression will start skyrocketing tremendously

[icy jewel]

i dont even know where my damage is coming from anymore

[kindred dagger]

How much damage do you typically have when you start farming W5? Here's my bubo as an example.

[icy jewel]

started w5 with like 7 mil a month later im around 100

i dont even know anymore

[bold quiver]

active u need over 10M to active at w5 at a barely decent pace

[gleaming belfry]

i'd share my idleoneff but its embarrassing

[bold quiver]

yeah it just keeps coming kkkkkkkk

[gleaming belfry]

im wildly afk and theres so much on my list i need to do still

[icy jewel]

yeah it just rises and im like ..... ok lol

[paper sail]

The usual recommendation for "efficient" play is to wait until you can multikill the enemy before farming them. It isn't a must, but certainly faster

[signal osprey]

In this case its kind of a must. Those stats will die to crystals

[kindred dagger]

I'm just farming for exp right now. It's the highest exp per map for me. So is this the right place to be?

[gleaming belfry]

depends on kph as well i think?

if a lower map = more kills

[bold quiver]

multikill is whatever for w5

[humble cargo]

Its not really a question about world 5 itself but I just lost my 4th god due to the desync between phone and pc.
I cant do anything about that right?

Like I got the 50% on my phone went like half an hour later on my pc and noticed it isnt there. Quickly checked phone and the progress is also set back.
now I lost the 50% this time...

[bold quiver]

it would be very very inneficient to wait for multikill before pushing at least to lampars map

cuz that map has a very important stamp and rewards

u can get to it with around 5 to 10M max dmg with pure afk gains, not hard.

u wont be able to kill enemies active tho, but still, 100% efficient

[gleaming belfry]

what stamp? are you talking about the pig rewards for div?

[kindred dagger]

Here's my BB, and top two maps for exp. If I'm going for exp, then the only thing that matters is exp, and not kph, right?

[paper sail]

If you're playing offline, yeah

[kindred dagger]

Thanks. Just getting a little frustrated here. I've read a lot about people saying W5 is so great for exp. "I went from 200 to 320 in ten hours". Just not seeing how.

[icy jewel]

in 22 hours ill have my doot!

(most likely a 5th slime)

[paper sail]

The big culprit is going to be the Grind Time bubble. Active playing with Bubo will generate many hours worth of liquid, allowing you to pump this bubble up

[weak vector]

which map is better for dk nuttos? the roots or the base of the bark?

[icy jewel]

you also need way more damage

[paper sail]

The second part is Crystal Enemies. They give drastically more exp than base monsters, but only spawn during active play.

[icy jewel]

2.5 mil is pretty poopy for w5

my blood berserker is level 140 rn, and is 19mil

[fallow aurora]

how would this work with "tachion of the titans" prayer? would it just be impossible for a giant mob to spawn?

[kindred dagger]

So right now, I need to find the best map I can stay alive active with my bubo, keep levelling CC to supplement alchemy progress? Sound like the best thing to focus on?

[icy jewel]

alchemy is king man

when i rushed to w5, i had the same questions. i ignored so many mechs from other worlds.

[paper sail]

That's a good place to start, yes. Try W4 Cans, or W3 Bloodbones, W3 Dedo Ram, W3 Sir Stache

[potent lily]

Who do i need pop obdols for?

[paper sail]

At least 1 set for your Active farming character

[potent lily]

Dk ?

[true obsidian]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

pain

[paper sail]

Any active character, doesn't matter.

[potent lily]

Ok

[true obsidian]

but surely Dk active is the best right now, because of Onyx Statues

[visual lava]

Not best

Very good? Yes. Incredible? Also yes.

[paper sail]

That wasn't the question..

[visual lava]

But every situation is different and DK is not always the answer

[fathom lagoon]

[signal osprey]

DK is kind of the best

[visual lava]

No

[signal osprey]

In an end game setup none of the non DK situations are relevant

[visual lava]

Yes

[signal osprey]

You use bubo as needed to sustain cauldrons and then farm on DK

[visual lava]

But not everyone is endgame yet

[gleaming belfry]

whats the best way to farm the 200k or whatever power statues?

[tidal sky]

what about my man ES for rare drops

[gleaming belfry]

i feel like i am probably a long way away from achieving that

[signal osprey]

Rare drops dont really matter end game

[visual lava]

You said it again

Endgame

[paper sail]

All roads eventually end in DK being the character you spend the most time active farming on. Some of those roads can be traversed fastest with other classes (if time candy is not available)

[signal osprey]

Well yeah I said DK is all that matters in an end game setup and then Chiilo asked about rare drops

So I answered about rare drops in end game. Sure before that you'll need some rare drops at some point

[vivid garnet]

DK best overall. Has the most use, and then bubo is the best for most people because most people need to be working on their alchemy

[oak hemlock]

@signal osprey dude how much statues on ES u dropped per hour in w3-4??

[signal osprey]

W4 statues are farmed on DK not ES

And the W3 ES statues I candied

Because I dont want to use ES lol

But I think I heard some people saying about 20 hours or so per W3 statue on a pretty strong ES

[oak hemlock]

How much candies u lost?

[paper sail]

Took me ~30 hours PER STATUE with 19DR, 2T max sheet damage, 281 Wormhole on active ES

[oak hemlock]

Oh...

[signal osprey]

It was like 200-300 hours of candy on average I think

Kinda varied a bit for each statue

Like the bullseye statue was nearly 3x more per hour than the trap box statue

[signal osprey]

Yeah I was basing that 20 hours off of serimo

[oak hemlock]

Which char u used for candies?@signal osprey

[signal osprey]

Vman

[oak hemlock]

Kk

Thanks

[paper sail]

Yeah that's fair. Just wanted to give others reading a point of reference including DR and damage 👍

[signal osprey]

Most players should expect 30-40 hours if not more

At least for W3. Bullseye should be easier

[paper sail]

I had 4 characters (Bubo, SB, ES, and BM) AFK farming bullseye, got about ~190 per hour total.

SB: 13:42, 277% AFK, 14.6x DR = 847 Bullseye statues.
BM: 13:46, 262% AFK, 14.9x DR = 647 statues.
Bubo: 13:36, 262% AFK, 15.4x DR = 631 statues.
ES: 13:40, 252% AFK, 13.5x DR = 535 statues.

Respawn makes a big difference there, but not easy to see in game

[signal osprey]

Yeah respawn helps a lot for the statues

I was using both 20% chains when I candied

[paper sail]

Yeah my SB had the 20% chains and that's why they picked up so many more

As well as having the highest AFK

[fading cape]

Any idea how any level 13 vials needed for snake vial to give 200%?

[signal osprey]

Not possible to hit

[fading cape]

My math says 27 but not sure that's right.

oh snap. 100%. bad typo

[signal osprey]

Yeah 27 for 100%

[fading cape]

pretty sure I'll be there about the same time I'm done farming all onyx

6 to go

[fallen torrent]

4k statue left sailing/divinity in W5 and statue are done

just missing Seesaw/bulleyes

[golden cipher]

sniff, one less

[solid hollow]

is it worth to use it if try to catch up? (its lvl 12 so -63% all xp seems a bit heavy), came back after near 2 years and just reached W4 😛

[dreamy spruce]

use it!

its the best prayer

[solid hollow]

oki

[dreamy spruce]

the -63% is additive, so if you have 3x exp it goes down to 2,4 not 2

only on maestro is it worth considering not using

[solid hollow]

ohhhh

yeah big deal changer than^^

thx! 🙂

[thin kernel]

that moment when you farming status for quest on all you sticker man.. and saving up all the Kachow.. so you can get a "big" boost to it when all is done 😄

[proud pumice]

when do you start working on atom collider? i currently have 12M log print with the x6 bonus, but i feel like leveling up alchemy bubbles with logs are better than using them for some atoms, since i won't be getting many atoms anyway

[thin kernel]

is a bit slow at the start.. but when you get better 3d print.. it will come

plus if you luck on timer.. you can get +hours for 3d printer 😄

if you pick the right god ofc

[proud pumice]

yeah, i guess i'll wait for better prints to start on atom collider

[thin kernel]

you can use the one you have now... and get a litte... is better then nothing 🙂

[thin adder]

Do you get more Dead DNA from trashing pets than from rolling on shiny pets? Trying to maximize my dead dna gains

[thin kernel]

i think is the same

but idk

[muted bramble]

is vman best to farm W3 boss scarf ?

[humble valve]

it depends on how much you play for me i play once a day and its better for me to use atoms as I have 12 bubble upgrades per day and i get more atoms per day than i use for upgrading bubbles

i should also say i too have 12m log prints

and ive been using atoms since around 8m prints

[tacit tulip]

an extra note is that your damage is quite low for the situation. You're getting more EXP/H despite having less kills/Hr - because the suggmas are worth more exp per kill

Suggmas have 25m hp but your damage range is only 2.5 mil - 10% of their health

You'll probably find that as you get stronger, your EXP/Hr will greatly increase as you'll be killing faster afk

[thorn marsh]

is DK or ES best for regular drops?

[muted bramble]

ES

[thorn marsh]

so what IS DK best for? I see contract swearing to it all the time :p

[muted bramble]

its best for rare farming

or crystal farming

[proud pumice]

drops inside bags

[tacit tulip]

Crystal mob drops

[thorn marsh]

crystals only?

[tacit tulip]

and also wurm keys

[signal osprey]

[tacit tulip]

but otherwise, yes

[thorn marsh]

@signal osprey you have been summoned

[muted bramble]

so basically when you go on your cards, if the you click on a monster and the things you see on the first page is for ES, then bags/crystal monster is for DK

[thorn marsh]

bags/crystals. gotcha

[muted bramble]

just to make sure the "bags" are the ones you see on the monster cards

[thorn marsh]

yaya, ofc

[muted bramble]

not actual bags for inventory upgrade

[thorn marsh]

😄

[muted bramble]

alright

[signal osprey]

Yeah basically anything that can drop from a crystal will be best farmed from crystals even if it also drops from normal mobs too

[muted bramble]

im just waking up and my brain is lagging

[tacit tulip]

ES portal buff only impacts normal mobs - making him best for normal drops
Bubo kills the most total mobs, but ha no buff. This makes his best for total crystal kills, and thus money. Also alchemy.
DK buff applies to the whole map, which means he gets the most drops from crystal mobs - but not more than ES for normal mobs. Also construction

[signal osprey]

And DK orb affects crystals whereas ES portal does not

[thorn marsh]

never could figure them out, I just mained ES cause everything went brrr

[signal osprey]

Not con though. DK makes the con go brrr

[thorn marsh]

true!

but he doesn't have to be active for that, no?

[signal osprey]

You do need to be active.

[thorn marsh]

oooooh

[signal osprey]

Bubble 2 in the orange cauldron only applies to the carpenter bubble while actively on a warrior

[thorn marsh]

I did not realise that

[tacit tulip]

(really needs to change the wording on bubble 2 those are garbage)

[fading cape]

man. I haven't paid attention to my gold improvements over time. Went to farming worms for the first time in a long time on DK. I recently got my first ever godshard and now I'm just blowing through them. lol. Where did all this money % gain come from?

[signal osprey]

Alch is probably responsible for most of it assuming you haven't been doing gmush

[muted bramble]

while we on the subject of drops rate and farming, ill just ask my questions again: Who is best to farm W3 boss for scarf ?

[fading cape]

I eclipsed Gmush. So that's probably a huge one too. But yeah, innate alchemy gains probably account for a lot. My star talents for cooking and multikill are the same..

Oh crap, the one star talent involves multikill and do I have a lot of onyx statues now too. So that's probably a huge boost

[signal osprey]

Vman

[muted bramble]

appreciate it and is it any difficulty or nightmare ?

[fading cape]

Yup. Vman is a banger for boss drops

[tacit tulip]

it's actually a quite disappointing boost

[signal osprey]

I think normal is technically the highest chance of getting a scarf per key but that also means farming the boss a lot more

[clear topaz]

about gaming, it says on the second fertilizer skill that sporuts grow back every something Hr, and that this time is also 1 growth cycle, does that mean if I keep them without harvesting, they will grow beyond that and yield even more, if i wait another cycle?

[tacit tulip]

4% increase to kills in w3 mobs

[fading cape]

I don't know, 450% at max still feels ok on W5 stuff if you're at a certain point. I'm only at 250b damage on my DK. So 400% is like...10% for me

[signal osprey]

That talent wouldn't effect money anyway. The star talent for money is based on multikill tiers not multikill %

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's main benefit is for current end maps

[fading cape]

but yeah. on you. Def less impactful

[tacit tulip]

it'll probably be quite tasty the day w6 comes out

[fading cape]

oh boo to me and my reading skills

[tacit tulip]

flat 450% bonus to MK

[muted bramble]

anyone got a card set for DR they can link rly quick ?

[fading cape]

yeah. Especially getting forward without being able to candy.

Unless lava takes it into account. haha

[glad crow]

boss set?

[muted bramble]

yeah or whatever card set i should run for W3 scarf farming

[thorn marsh]

think he means setup

[fading cape]

This is my DK statue farming build

[glad crow]

replace genie with doot here

you want doot and mr. brightside to be doubled

[fading cape]

Replace the xp and crystal cards with card drop rates or other drop rate cards.

[glad crow]

also wouldnt this be better for you?

[fading cape]

and yes, like Kralan said. You'll want your top left and top right to be Doot and thermo if you have console chips

[fading cape]

I don't have top left chip. And my christmas box is copper

[glad crow]

where are you statue farming?

[fading cape]

W5 mongo worms

But you were right about blueberry. My blueberry is red. So +1 droprate over boom box

[muted bramble]

so that is best set up for W3 drop farming ?

w3 boss*

[signal osprey]

Unless you can't 1 shot without it I would still drop Dr D for another DR card

[fading cape]

well, like Kralan and I mentioned, you'll need to adjust based on your current setup and console chips. Like replacing crystl drops with other drop rate cards. And realigning for your console chips

[glad crow]

do you need the extra damage from dr d? else that could be even more dr

[fading cape]

Great advise. At the moment it's putting me at next damage tier and I'm farming slices also to get vial up a level for stamp costs

[muted bramble]

brain cant compute ill just go with x10.2 DR

[glad crow]

here my fren

[fading cape]

You have the card console chips in W4 for card doubling??

[muted bramble]

i do

somewhere

[fading cape]

You'll want to make sure they're equipped on the vman and that your cards are in the same order as Kralan shows above. So you're getting doubles on DOOT and Brightside

[fading cape]

Not to assume your knowledge, only saying because above you said, "does not computer" so don't want to talk over your head either

[muted bramble]

nah you're good, i just cant understand past a certain point

and i also just woke up not sure what im doing rly xD

[fading cape]

fair

[muted bramble]

well got 1 scarf for now

make that 5 xD

[spare cipher]

what are my options to reasonbly farm power statues for the onyx statue unlock?

[glad crow]

BEANS

[spare cipher]

ok beans it is, class suggestions?

[glad crow]

Dk

[spare cipher]

class suggestions for sombody whos DK isnt level 500 and hits the whole map with a boomerang?

still DK (assumeing divine knight)?

[signal osprey]

Your DK would have to be very bad to not get more statues than every other class

[spare cipher]

understood

[signal osprey]

Like never even gotten a library book bad

[cinder cliff]

Yea my dk isn't even that high and it farms statues fairly well

[spare cipher]

aight noted, mines about 140 levels lower then that

time to get his ass off skilling and to leveling me thinks, then do the statue grind XD will probs be quicker

[cinder cliff]

i think it only took like 3 days or so active at oranges in w5

i have a low Grind time bubble though, like 270

[signal osprey]

Yeah DK is the fastest leveler in the game

He'll catch up quickly

[spare cipher]

aight, ty all for the info

might aswell throw everybody down to grind exp up to match my main whilst im at it XD

[rustic garnet]

The ES statue farm is painful

alchemy should be your 'main' and all 10 chars are alts to it

[signal osprey]

Yeah I dont regret candying those statues at all

[rustic garnet]

I have a good count still, but I may hold off

[cinder cliff]

whats the best non-w5 map for alch?

[rustic garnet]

I think this is one of the rare times where using 10x statues isn't worth it

If I were to use these, I'd be doing 1 billion farms I think

[dapper prism]

Small random note, put 1 talent pt into talents 7 and 8. Also if you are lacking talent points, maxing talent 3 isn't as important.

[signal osprey]

Flombs

[dapper prism]

Something along these lines, don't fully remember:
Stache -> TV -> Cans -> Floms -> Citringe -> wurms afaik

[rustic garnet]

I'd also imagine KPH is better than weapon damage

[light junco]

Is there a max level for the liquid cauldron upgrades? Cap and rate

[rustic garnet]

yeah, it's almost entirely based on total density, and staches are super dense

YOu may get a lot of action on poop or slimes too

[rustic garnet]

probably some integer overflow

[light junco]

No known limit though? Trying to decide when to stop leveling those and start bubbles again

[dapper prism]

Wouldnt frogs be a bunch better than slime?

[rustic garnet]

maybe

it's all about the total mobs on the map

[full plover]

cant we use candies on w5?

[rustic garnet]

if you can't fully aura the entire map, of course

[dapper prism]

Not afaik, I just did around 30-75 cap-rate then did 50-100. Then started bringing up cap a little over time.

[mighty galleon]

hi there is there a fast way to farm the world 3 skill statues? im barely making any progress

[dapper prism]

Pins

[rustic garnet]

It's just not that great of return, tbh

[dapper prism]

I'd always let Rate lead by a bunch, since cap does nearly nothing for you

[mighty galleon]

pins?

[rustic garnet]

lucky 10,000

look at the top right, there is a pin

click it

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/IOrSRWX.png

[mighty galleon]

oh ty

im blind 😄

[rustic garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/illidan-bah-gif-10891728

[dapper prism]

Need to update my pins soon, maybe today

[signal osprey]

Cap is my favorite stat because it means I can do more of my bubo farming at once

Also I'll be able to afford this one day

[dapper prism]

Only need like 5k or so for that one 😄

unless you can hit 15.7k

My issue is the the gain for cap vs its cost is like, brutal. Think i was paying like 6k+ water to get an extra 8-12 cap

Would have to hit max like 500x for it to be worth it

[fast grail]

I do cap because i forget to check idleon and always end up with liquids max

[signal osprey]

I should do more bubo and actual push my decants more

I wanna get my rates to at least 50/hr

[fading cape]

How many gems is it per day to buy it that high?

[dapper prism]

Like 8 or 10

[signal osprey]

Thats 10 gems

[dapper prism]

You got the dragon cauldron stuff then?

or is your cap just that damn huge without having 50 rate?

[fading cape]

If I make this premium will it remove the class req?

[signal osprey]

I wish I had the draconic cauldrons

[full plover]

guys where can I check my account skill level/

[digital stream]

Imagine not being able to wear it 😎

[fast grail]

No draconic for that one yet, only first 2

[last quiver]

anyone have time to group with me while I do random achievs?

[signal osprey]

I have 0 of them

[dapper prism]

Items - > then top left skills info ?

[fading cape]

You mean the total level of mining across all? If you have the skill mastery for Rift you can check at rift.

[dapper prism]

I can, cookie 20, meet w1 city

[dapper prism]

Oh if u mean rift family stuff like Jay, yeh either rift or easily check on IE and toolbox.

[full plover]

hmmm yes, it's for the rift I was wondering what is my level to know if worth I spend time to complete the tasks

[last quiver]

I'm here trick

[dapper prism]

Im on the house Daenerys

[fast grail]

rip

[fading cape]

outside of using IE or Toolbox and adding it up, you can't see it in game until you actually get the rift

[fading cape]

But if you have toolbox and go to rift it shows you what you would get in the skill mastery tab even if you don't have it unlocked

[signal osprey]

Got all my cauldrons up to like 11k cap without any draconic. If we ever get that back in the shop it would be amazing

Lava hear my prayers

[dapper prism]

Can you toggle it?

Lava I will also buy those draconics. Get out monies and hear us 💰

[signal osprey]

Toggle the cauldron? No idea

[dapper prism]

Yeh, incase like very active, since it reduces the rate afaik 🤷

[stoic cypress]

@dapper prism https://i.imgur.com/3raitwb.png https://i.imgur.com/fBd73FZ.png

[signal osprey]

Draconic shouldnt reduce rate thats just the lab node

[broken plaza]

Rift drops are annoying lol

[dapper prism]

oh idk, someone told me it did 🤷

[dapper prism]

Wow i hate rounding in this game..

[signal osprey]

I honestly wouldnt care if it did lower rate

I would be okay with that

[fading cape]

FYI it does keep the class req
I did it for science

[dapper prism]

@iron mesa See message above or: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
Rounding in this game sure is weird on different UI's
https://i.imgur.com/QpiUULf.png

Another one here:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[dapper prism]

Lol, thank you, i was actually really curious about the outcome xD

[fading cape]

Sating my curiosity was worth haha

[dapper prism]

Now what if you move the stats from one hat to that hat? 😄

[fading cape]

I'm about to actually. So we'll find out

[lavish cloak]

anyone have a list of what dictates max worship charge? i'm slacking on my blood berserker

[stoic cypress]

if you need any other levels just lmk. Got level 2 aswell if that's of intrest

[paper sail]

Big bubble, likely

[dapper prism]

Sure, also if you want you can DM me directly. Level 2 should be 21xp? if not, feel free to tell me 😄

[lavish cloak]

i got sheep. all bubbles active.

[paper sail]

IE doesn't calculate unless you are wearing it.

[stoic cypress]

22 and alright will keep that in mind! 🙂

[lavish cloak]

mmmm

[fading cape]

Nope. Stays class req

[dapper prism]

Wait really? xD can you screenshot those plz x3

[stoic cypress]

or we are both correct https://i.imgur.com/hfLIZHS.png

[lavish cloak]

thanks. i'll have him wear that to make the ie calcs proper

[signal osprey]

IE should have an option to toggle companions

[paper sail]

Does not address this bug

[dapper prism]

This is killing me xD
I'll dm you btw to have it all in 1 place

[stoic cypress]

hahaha yeah you must have nightmares of all these numbers. Sure thing!

is there any difference between yellow and pink 10M+ crits?

[sacred verge]

megacrit and not

[paper sail]

Megacrit I believe

[sacred verge]

megacrits are pink

[stoic cypress]

ooh I see, thought it was only at 100%+ crit chance (30% chance atm)

[sacred verge]

you need over 100% crit to deal MC yes

[paper sail]

Oh.. just straight up crit vs not then lmao

[sacred verge]

im pretty sure only MC turns pink but i might be wrong, been some time since i didnt only megacrit

[paper sail]

Megacrit is green I think, but any crit overwritten if 10m+ to pink?

[sacred verge]

maybe

[stoic cypress]

Thanks

[last quiver]

bullseye feel so bad 20k power statues > 800 bullseye

100-200 = megacrit, is 200-300 anything?

[sacred verge]

no

[last quiver]

I need to sample but I don't wanna :(

[sacred verge]

same

[obsidian nacelle]

Same

[cinder cliff]

i have to sample and set traps :/

[last quiver]

ohhh yeah gotta do newtraps too

fk

I feel like I should do some cooking before sampling

290k ladles left could push my skillprow a bit

[dapper prism]

lol damn, how long were you gone? 👀

[last quiver]

270d

then doubled

[dapper prism]

Nice 😄

[last quiver]

was getting good ladles per hour a tthe time, now you can probably get 300k ladles in a couple weeks

[feral wedge]

I’m kinda struggling with boosting my crit chance for mega crit anyone got any tips?

[green eagle]

that cloud discover could've been anything else

[last quiver]

dungeons got crit

[dapper prism]

2.5-3k per day +/-

[green eagle]

statues, alchemy, star talents, cooking

[last quiver]

so 6k with double, so 2 mo, guess its decent still

[feral wedge]

which spices for recipe unlocks?

[last quiver]

Think I should push the prowess ladle trick?

[signal osprey]

Theres a good chance you're already capped on prowess

[dapper prism]

For? Just remember prowess caps at 2x

There's an easy yellow alch bubble for that too

[humble valve]

hey guys is citringes the best place to farm statues in w5 with DK?

[dapper prism]

Use IE to show you best stuff

[dapper prism]

No, wurms is

[last quiver]

how do I know contrafct?

I'm only 31Leek

[signal osprey]

Whats your prowess bubble giving?

[humble valve]

if i dont have wurms unlocked is it better to do crawlers to unlock wurms then citringes? currently would take me around 15-20 days to unlock @dapper prism

[last quiver]

1.93x

[dapper prism]

If it takes you that long, you should have some other big priorities o.o

[last quiver]

its onl 98

[signal osprey]

Yeah you're already gonna be capped

[obsidian nacelle]

Trickz, becoming famous in the W5 chat lol

[signal osprey]

It caps at 2x total between the bubble and the meal

[dapper prism]

lol why? xD

[hollow ledge]

prob because of the spreadsheet

[obsidian nacelle]

Been seeing your advice to someone almost everytime I swing around

[dapper prism]

Helps my sanity while depositing these Kachows xD
https://i.imgur.com/ckct9XX.png

[signal osprey]

[hollow ledge]

5 stacks... are you using round-up bonuses?

[dapper prism]

I setup my statues in different stack amounts based on inventory tab

Example here: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

That was technicalyl a bad vid, since i wasnt really organized on that one xD

[hollow ledge]

ahh i see

maximizing yellow

[signal osprey]

Not looking forward to doing those statues

[dapper prism]

Yeh, just cause they are hard-impossible to get besides this quest, may was well

[humble valve]

its that slow due to afk equipment being on other characters and limited by salts for gear, alchemy is being worked on passively through atoms and daily levels and so is post office. I am currently trying to get the final 3 sailing artifacts but my luck is terrible. any tips to increase dmg for more multikill?

[true obsidian]

20+ try...never felt i'm such a failure like this...something not right

[humble valve]

also thats afk and my character is setup for active if i active it i would have in done in probably 5 days which is still pretty slow.

[obsidian nacelle]

And that’s the bonus from onxy statues making 5 counts as like 20 right?

[little pagoda]

Did you max the new multikill talent and multikill bonuses? That might help

[dapper prism]

1 = 7 from having all onyx + vial snakeskin for 100%

[dapper prism]

Active is fine then for a few days, just seemed excessive when you mentioned 2-3 weeks for a single portal

[humble valve]

dont have the new talent sadly still trying to get statues and all my multikill per tier bonuses are maxed afaik

[humble valve]

i mean it is the final portal so far with 10m kills req for it

[little pagoda]

Statues should help with damage and the multikill is nice even if it's base multikill, you can easily get +400% or so

[humble valve]

thats also without nobi

[humble valve]

ok ty 🙂

[dapper prism]

True, either way it's good to have wurms unlocked, so i definetely say go for it. Since the main 2 chars you want there are DK and Bubo.

So not much point spending time at citringes unless you need some early OJ bubble levels i guess?

[humble valve]

actually multikill isnt even a possibility for me rn as my dmg isnt good enough for it to take effect

[little pagoda]

How far are you from the first multikill tier? That alone should let you easily x5 the number of kills, maybe more

[humble valve]

luckily bubo already has wurms unlocked 😄

[little pagoda]

Base multikill is good in this case lol

[dapper prism]

Only if they get to 2.4b dmg

[humble valve]

far away

[little pagoda]

That damage is low, I'm not even at oranges and my DK has higher damage, so you can either brute force to wurms or work on other stuff

[dapper prism]

dmg skyrockets around that range with the right artifacts and stuff

[humble valve]

yeah sadly been shafted with luck in that department

[humble valve]

its normally at 350m+ not sure why its so low on this map

[little pagoda]

Accuracy

Dk needs 2x so might be that

Or is it 1.5, idk

[manic moat]

What would be the first 3 to get to max level?

[humble valve]

im at 2m accuracy with the req for this mob being 67.5k so not that

[dapper prism]

Depends on where you are, what you need. If you're talking about 245s?

[manic moat]

I think my max is 220 atm

[little pagoda]

Yeah idk why damage would be lower in this max specifically then

[dapper prism]

If its 220, you got the book achievement and atom and just waiting for Eldritch fury?

[manic moat]

yep

[humble valve]

OH its the deathnote prayer

[dapper prism]

Then I would probably not even necessarily max your main talents, since you would want those at 245 and would have to redo them later

[humble valve]

prob would be worth getting rid of once my dmg is higher for multikill

[dapper prism]

These were my own notes for 245 books:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

So i'd honestly NOT focus any of those. Maybe level everything that's on a secondary importance level. so you can 245 these other things later on without it being wasted

[manic moat]

if you had to pick though? I'm getting 20 books every 1.5 days

[dapper prism]

I'd probably not even do a 20 book checkout yet then, id use single books and just try and get good stuff throughout most talent things that arnt the biggest priority

[manic moat]

would the secondary be like weapon moves?

[tidal sky]

to get 1b mob mats with ES still seems very slow, how do you guys do it, just print with everyone and vman?

[barren otter]

@dapper prism

hope i never have to grind out lvls on it again

[tidal sky]

how high was your GT?

[barren otter]

like 5kish

[tidal sky]

mine is at 2k will prob leave at 3k and try to get 425 on everyone

[dapper prism]

To me secondary stuff that isnt of big importance for 245 right away but like, further down the line, so still good to get single book checkouts until you unlock your 245 are:

Tab 1: 5, 10, 14, 15
Tab 2: Most stuff depends on class, but NOT 6, 7, 8
Tab 3: ^ but NOT, 9
Tab 4: Active Talents depends on class, NOT, 9, 15 and few variable stuff since classes are very different.

This is only on a quick glance, different characters may be very different. Some things you could toss a few books in due to RNG of Eldritch would still be some of the main books that help like 3D print, Refinery if you need?, CC if you're planning on doing bubo stuff. It also comes down to their current books. But if it takes 1.5 days for 1x 20 book. I'd definitely do solo books.

Combine that to my 1st choice 245 talent books:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
^ if anything here is still like level 100, could do a solo book for some benefit for now

[bold quiver]

soon and ill be done with atoms

[grim fossil]

what class should i use to kill green mushroom faster ?

[bold quiver]

also, soon this badboy will be able to use divine trophy

[bold quiver]

ES

[grim fossil]

ok

ty

[bold quiver]

you are welcome

[grim fossil]

[bold quiver]

[dapper prism]

Although a lot of people use SB because of the smithing talent for bars for your alch vials, along with best anvil progress if candying for those time gated supplies. (Remember Bars produces is capped by Forge Ore Capacity)
ES does have the highest gmush rate, and it's benefit would be worship charge as it also fills up while candying.

[dawn moon]

looks like farming bullseye statues is going to be painful

[dapper prism]

Halfways through depositing these Kachows -,-
https://i.imgur.com/q0MrUvn.png

at least its getting faster and faster

[dawn moon]

are any of the other statues worse than bullseye? i might go hit w3 statues and then come back

[hollow wasp]

i finally unlocked this, where do i find it now?

[dapper prism]

Right above you in the village of w3

[hollow wasp]

oh i see

10m resources 1 particle

[dapper prism]

Best thing to do is set the setting on the left to 1050m and then also turn off the atom collider

[hollow wasp]

10m is 1 green stack right?

[dawn moon]

yep

[hollow wasp]

i dont even have any single green stack

of anything

i have a green gold coin

xd

[dawn moon]

time to start working on your samples

[dapper prism]

most people who go for atom, unlock it too early

[hollow wasp]

i see ye

[bold quiver]

dont u just have to drop all of them?

[dapper prism]

Drop all?

[pearl cedar]

Big proponent of natural progression of atoms

[bold quiver]

yeah u click hold and drop there to deposit

[pearl cedar]

Not if you want to max out the gains

[dapper prism]

Still not sure what you mean?

[bold quiver]

wdym?

[dapper prism]

Unless you mean deposit all

[dapper prism]

Yellow bubble 3

The xp skip only works per level.

[edgy pine]

Should I upgrade magma boots ?

[dapper prism]

If you skip levels, it doesnt work for the levels skipped

[bold quiver]

rly?

[pearl cedar]

Bubble doesn't work correctly if deposit all on multiple levels

[bold quiver]

wow had i known that i wouldnt have leveled the bubble

[wind umbra]

didnt that bug get fixed? dont remember who said it got fixed

[pearl cedar]

Is a great bubble

[bold quiver]

no way im deposit level per lvl

[dapper prism]

idk but they were testing some stuff the other day and pretty sure the conclusion was it doesnt work

[edgy pine]

Should I upgrade magma boots on bubo

[wind umbra]

hmm ok thanks

tahnk god i havent deposited yet

[bold quiver]

imagine doing that for all statues, i have over 3M of them

[dapper prism]

You could just deposit 1k or so statues initially to skip a bunch of early stuff, then do it on the higher ones

[bold quiver]

and i dont even farms tatues properly

[dapper prism]

You only care about kachow, since only real source is the quest

[bold quiver]

hmmm fair enough

[pearl cedar]

Just not great for multiple levels

[dapper prism]

10x 3 a day if u do picnic quest on everyone daily.. vs 80k

[bold quiver]

god forbid doing picnic quest

thats for mad people

i did that quest 30 times for trophy and never clicked it again

[dapper prism]

still havnt ever done it again except that first time xD

[pearl cedar]

KoF still worth it though

[bold quiver]

trophy is too good for soul gain

[willow drum]

it prints kebabs tho

[bold quiver]

is brutal

[pearl cedar]

So does colo2

[willow drum]

I prefer colo3 for candy

[bold quiver]

yeah its not worth for the kebabs (maybe early on, a few kebabs are nice if u want the extra

[bold quiver]

does it drop more candy?

[willow drum]

plus I have to use tickets on w4 to get trophy in w4

[edgy pine]

Should I upgrade magma boots on bubo

[bold quiver]

oh true, at least we can do 3-4 runs on w4 colo in a single DK orb

[dapper prism]

Some day, not even sure where would u use that trophy?

[bold quiver]

yes, great to help reaching gold breakpoint

[bold quiver]

souls dude, souls

[dapper prism]

ah right, i always forget

[edgy pine]

Ok thanks

Wait what is gold breakpoint

[bold quiver]

every odd drop rate number u get gold multi

[willow drum]

biggie vs slush

[edgy pine]

Ahh ok

[bold quiver]

to 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21

[edgy pine]

Very well thanks

[bold quiver]

ohh mmuch better than biggie. But what about the 50% extra cost

[edgy pine]

Right now my bubo is my best so I’m upgrading him first

[bold quiver]

u can get 150 1h and 150 2h candies guaranteed doing W2 vs 100 and 100 at w3

[signal osprey]

W2 colo is definitely more candy overall because of the cost

But it takes a lot longer to use your tickets that way as well so W3 is better for sanity

[willow drum]

can't use prayer for w2 colo either

so less dr

[signal osprey]

Doesn't matter

[bold quiver]

but the candy drop is only 1

[signal osprey]

Its still more candy

[bold quiver]

u cant get 2-3 same candies per boss kill

and i doubt that droprate would be enough to be better than 50% more 1h 2h candy

[last quiver]

wouldn't coll tickets be better used on eggs anyway?

[fading dust]

Is it really necessary to push for W4 pets in breeding? Feels kinda unnecessary to use Fenceyard space for breedability, especially when I can still level up my shiny pets

Currently stocking up on shiny pet level speed pets like mushroom, wode board, and crescent beans

[little pagoda]

I mean it increases damage from lab node a bit, and unlocks a bit more shiny bonuses, but that's it

[fading dust]

true, sounds kinda underwhelming - I'll just focus on shiny pets then

[fast grail]

I just keep a single breedability pet in yard, slowly progress w4 pets

[fading dust]

Good idea, I'll do that once I fill up my fenceyard

[tacit tulip]

the w3 statues are comparable to bullseye

[little pagoda]

I skipped bullseye and w3, I'm doing w4 and it seems way more reasonable

w5 is gonna take a while too so I'll probably stop after this]

[rustic garnet]

w3 are longer, for me

[tacit tulip]

yeah, do w4/5 before bullseye and 3 if you care about total

[fast grail]

Anyone happen to know amount of claims for copper/iron vial?

[tacit tulip]

those 4 are done last

[versed cypress]

its also the fact that w3 and bullseye statues are farmed with ES, while all the other statues are mostly farmed with DK so its a completely different way to farm them

[little pagoda]

I'm kinda tired of statue farming so after this I think I'll deposit all I got and leave the rest to farm when it's easier

[magic estuary]

Can I do tower defense stuff on web while my DK is actively farming statues on steam ? 😄

[little pagoda]

I don't think you can cloudsave both, one will overwrite the other

[thorn marsh]

you can find another game and play tower defense, yes. 😉

[fast grail]

Thats prime de-sync

[thorn marsh]

may I suggest wc3?

[tacit tulip]

BG3 pretty popular right now

[thorn marsh]

not much tower defense tho

[zealous niche]

Could try the ultimate tower, that’s a decent TD

[little pagoda]

ngl if you could pay to have +1 active character slot everybody would be all over that shit

[abstract geyser]

hnnng wish i was better at fishing minigame lmao

[sharp vine]

Shimmer island question that's probably been asked already: How is it I have 138b mining efficiency but it's only counting 8 digits for the "challenge?"

[little pagoda]

Probably just a visual bug

[abstract geyser]

shits pants did you say 138 BILLION efficiency in mining?

thought i was doing well with 1.5m in mining

[little pagoda]

Depends where you are in the game

I'm not in endgame and I just checked, in my fighting preset I'm at 20m mining efficiency

On skilling preset probably a few hundred million

[abstract geyser]

haha, just hit w5 last week, got up to Nobi and pushed a few maps but, now iom catching up on mats since i was holding off mining and shit for lvls so my Mman wouldnt struggle to get ahead of them all

[little pagoda]

Yeah you will see, bonuses start to stack up. For me a huge increase was cooking bonuses

[abstract geyser]

just got mman this morning so im getting him right with skills first

Yeah im trying to get cooking right but damn lol. will be better when my BB can leave the Div alter again

[little pagoda]

That is good too, focus on getting your account stronger so he's able to get a good speedrun score, his bonuses are great

[little pagoda]

Try to get high level blood marrow before you cook next, it starts to add up after you start levelling up meals

Why are eclipse skulls so early in the rift if they're pretty much impossible to do at that point lol

[sharp vine]

In what regard?

[little pagoda]

1 billions kills is kinda crazy for me right now and I could easily unlock them

[thorn marsh]

hng

[zealous niche]

Is the arrow right at the end? The shimmer trials max out

[zealous niche]

It’s half eaten, throw it back

[little pagoda]

I mean it's likely the game is counting the whole efficiency, but it only shows as many characters as there is space for it. Similar to how money works

[fast grail]

It might be digits -1

let me check mining one, 1 sec

[dapper prism]

Lava, are you proud of me?
https://i.imgur.com/PGFoMo7.png

[last quiver]

wtf wrapping up W3 quests and got 2 chiz blankets

farmed them for ages and took forever to get 1

[fast grail]

Actually not sure, but i think if you are gettng 8 at 130b, its digits -1

[sharp vine]

100b is 100 000 000 000 though, 12 digits long?

[dapper prism]

Isn't it just:
K 3
M 6
B 9
T 12
Q 15

[fathom lagoon]

.11% too high

[sharp vine]

That still wouldn't explain why I got 8, or why it's skipping the power of 10's between stuff like M-B-T

[upbeat trout]

i just got tab 5 in crafting and omg you need shiet ton of

[last quiver]

does spear not do aoe anymore?

[misty spindle]

@dapper prism Could you please tell me how long would it take to go from lvl 130 to 150 with 234 041 948 xp per hour?

[dapper prism]

3d 5h 22m 16s

[misty spindle]

Thank you

[little pagoda]

On non warrior characters

[last quiver]

:(

trying to do maestro coll quest

[misty spindle]

sorry to bother again, what about the same level range but with 358 million xp per hour

[dreamy spruce]

how many twosouls are you guys getting per hour?

[last quiver]

divid 358 by 234 and multiply the previous time of 185 minutes

err other way around

[misty spindle]

dont have the info about previous 185 minutes

[serene solstice]

does laaaaarry bubble give chance for +3 when over 100%?

[errant rain]

yooo what class do you guys have your 10th character? i already have one of each class, including Vman

[dusky grail]

So I am rather new to World 5, I have now set up 8 chars to Divinity (1 Exp for everyone), 1 active farmer and 1 on Cooking.
All 8 Chars are in the Lab farming Divinity Exp.
Does this sound like a plan or should I be doing something else early W5?

[serene solstice]

ty kirk

[last quiver]

@misty spindle Your previous time was about 180minutes, if you increase your xp by 234/358 you can multiply the 180 x .653 and get your new levelup time of roughly 120minutes

don't need his calculator for that

if you double your exp/hour you can halve time taken. You got the baseline of exp required even if he didn't explicitly state it. 234m/hr

[misty spindle]

my previous time was 3days and 5 hours not 180 minutes

or am I wrong?

[full plover]

guys still dont get one thing.
when placing traps I should focus only in Skill Eff right?
then when collecting, drop rate/shiny critters and exp?!

[misty spindle]

It would be around 50 hours right?

[dapper prism]

2d 2h 34m 53s

[acoustic karma]

yo does anyone know if i can still get those or where they limited and you cant get them anymore?

[pure ember]

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[obsidian nacelle]

Curse you for playing with my need to pop all of them 😂😂😂

[pure ember]

But it's fun

[obsidian nacelle]

Until you hit that one pop😂😂 just the distraction I needed from work

[pure ember]

We're no strangers to mind games here

[patent hatch]

what mobs to farm on BC for the 100k statues?

[dapper prism]

active something like frogs or beans,

[patent hatch]

thanks

[dapper prism]

think slime is one too. i did beans for more powers and stuff

[patent hatch]

pots in w2 work too?

[zealous niche]

iOS key I think isn’t available anymore. Apparently the others just come through dice rolls from dungeon

[fast grail]

I hate the IOS keychains

[pure ember]

Idleskilling event?

[acoustic karma]

damn they must be very low cuz i didnt ever got one