#lategame-chat-w5๐ŸŒ‹-w6๐ŸŒธ

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dapper prism
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Yeh im tempted to active some of these on something for the 100k quickly

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Else itll be like 80-100h

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What's the highest/best statue rate location for an active like bubo?

pearl cedar
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Dreadlo I'm getting 1-2k per hour or more haven't really been paying attention

dapper prism
pearl cedar
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Bubo maybe slimes or sticks. Don't really remember

bleak gust
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should i have started mining lustre by w5

fleet mural
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which is better snake god or flutterbis for maestro skill farm

pearl cedar
bleak gust
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squire

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or dk i guess

pearl cedar
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Probably

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But I really have no idea about early game nowadays

dapper prism
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fresh w5 is the best time to backtack and get stuff done

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while everyone is on div, you go active and catch up important stuff

bleak gust
barren otter
bleak gust
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dont i need todo that for like 2 weeks

bleak gust
dapper prism
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If you are online and can active, it's still best to active on 1 char for important stuff

dapper prism
barren otter
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so i actived one of my SBs and the best i could do was 7k/hr

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so i candied the 2nd

pearl cedar
# bleak gust what about div

Recommended to get bear/goat on everyone shove everyone that you can afford in lab since you're Prob not 75 in lab. And go focus a few chars at a time to catch up previous worlds

dapper prism
barren otter
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yea... good if you dont have candies

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but even 7k is slow

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was honestly more surprised with how fast active bubo got statues at beans @dapper prism

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i half joked about doing it yesterday and finished 100k in 90mins

dapper prism
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my only issue will be moving the gear and chips around and all that crap -,-

weary hinge
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no midas prayer on active es farming?

dapper prism
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Also don't know where or what to toss all my alts on to do once i finish these statues

dapper prism
barren otter
weary hinge
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aight thanks!

dapper prism
barren otter
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think last time i claimed afk hours for shrines my avg shrine building lvl was in the 60s

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my avg now is in the 100s...

dapper prism
barren otter
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the avg?

dapper prism
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that ui

barren otter
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oh thats under "account"

dapper prism
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ohhh right lol

barren otter
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avg building lvl i just estimated

dapper prism
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I need to be more active on con and lvl up lowest buildings

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or do a cog roll session... still never done one

barren otter
signal osprey
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Shrines are my favorite part of not having doot

dapper prism
signal osprey
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I can finally catch up in shrine levels to everyone ahead of me Grumblo_Pray

barren otter
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unironically the worst thing about doot

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lol

dapper prism
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BB trying it's best on shrines without much luck xD

elfin cape
barren otter
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man...

barren otter
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i had 10 chars on suggmas

dapper prism
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^ my BB, alone in W4, cooking, trying to lvl up shrines

barren otter
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and just pure misery

dapper prism
elfin cape
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I moved my shrines to W5 while I farmed keys for almost two months

dapper prism
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Might toss all my shrines to gmush, perma bonus, wurms also just feels a bit short term grind for keys, and 90% of them would come from the active DK anyways xD

elfin cape
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After I get the recipe I'll switch to W1 probably

swift pecan
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Suggmas aren't short term when it takes 650m kills for knucks

signal osprey
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650m is pretty short term

dapper prism
elfin cape
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What matters is real kills and DR

swift pecan
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It took days of 8 people afking.

barren otter
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days...

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it took me weeks

signal osprey
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lol

barren otter
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with all 10 afking

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days is nothing lmfao

barren otter
swift pecan
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Might have been longer, my kph wasn't high at all

barren otter
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its really only what 2 chars afking gmush?

dapper prism
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Why only 2? ima toss all down there xD

barren otter
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im still working on 1k skills...

elfin cape
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Then I'll put everyone on gmush

barren otter
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and im still doing DN

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7/10 capes done

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so i have no clue where the ideal shrine location is

dapper prism
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DN feels like it could be done pretty "quickly" too tbh

tranquil garden
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idk about u but i keep my shrines in w4 once i figure out what my non lab chars are gonna do, i usually run 6 or 7 people at a time

barren otter
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im only really getting DN completion through my SB atm

tranquil garden
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wat in the world is dn bruh

weary hinge
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deathnote

tranquil garden
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oh im smart xd

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i only have 1 red skull per world atm im too lazy to start the real grind D: ive been just workin on damage for MK and trying to get trilobyte rock :v

shut pendant
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trade is avalaible for pet ?

dapper prism
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Not yet

tranquil garden
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what dmg range should i start focusing my mushroom kills at? or more specifically how many kph should i be lookin for

opaque sun
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when you get your 2nd SB, is time he does gmush

dapper prism
bleak gust
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after divinity should i get right hand of skilling or grind on dk i feel like right hand takes a long time for me

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ive taken a week for chopping but i had to do divinity so they stay there for the next few weeks

opaque sun
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i dont see the correlation between right hand, dk and divinity

dapper prism
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For me what i had:
2nd DK/ES/SB + BM were on lab, that way i always had the sailing/gaming/div talents active and never had to worry about it. BM just there because he's useless. BB stuck cooking or chow stuff. With that others were pretty much only 1st bubo, dk, es, sb. SB on gmush, bubo/dk/es doing other stuff, rotating whatever i needed
So, sb was pretty much always there, it obviously starts helping more and more the higher your dmg is, but to get there having the money multi is nice.

PS: Remember to switch to him whenever so you forge your Bars cap
@tranquil garden

tranquil garden
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i feel it, i messed up and made 2 bubos, so i usually have one lab one active, or both lab if i need other guys to lvl up. Rn im going for unlocking Kruk for everyone to do the quests up until the dreaded nightmare mode haha

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but other than that im usually doing the same, only thing i dont have is my bb cookin, he was my first character and he's gonna be like the 8th to get to kruk haha

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i honestly just dont know what to work for rn, equips obv but rn im salt locked so im trying to rank up my refinery .3.

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and i got all bubbles unlocked and im upgrading daily, rn im working on sigils but thats such a slow passive

opaque sun
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like you can active on DK while skill leveling on mman afk

bleak gust
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but how maby characters can be out of div at a time about

opaque sun
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All those tasks doesnt interfere with each other

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10 people working on divinity changed to 8 people working in divinity is not that much of a loss for divinity

bleak gust
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oh

umbral tapir
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I have 4 obols that I've created in the last hour and equiped but aren't showing looted in the slab. What do?

potent gust
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Got 500M instant and was able to grab that Squirel. Feels good

umbral tapir
sharp wind
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Whats the best way to get w3 statue?

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Use ES?

opaque sun
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or candy them

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candy is less irl hours spent, active ES is the best for โ€œper hourโ€ efficiency

sharp wind
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How much candy needed roughly?

dapper prism
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A ton

opaque sun
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If candy, theoretical best is vman, but its just difference of dr from talent so doesnt matter much what class you do on

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Like 200-300 hrs per statues

dapper prism
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The pic might have the rates, i was getting like 50-80 statues/h if candy (w3)

opaque sun
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more or less depending on your afk gain

sharp wind
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Any recommended cards?

opaque sun
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afk gain and dr if candy

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Dr if active

sharp wind
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Alright

opaque sun
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Damage also helps a tiny bit in active ES for drops

sharp wind
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Ill try

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Candy

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ES seems crazy to do

dapper prism
opaque sun
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like try 1hr and check the statue you get

opaque sun
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Then multiply that with how much you need

dapper prism
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Had to make pic from spreadsheet xD

opaque sun
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The rate you get statues in afk is pretty much not dependent on rng

iron nymph
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tips for nightmare kruuk on zerker?

opaque sun
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have enough damage so that it doesnt take like a day. 20b ish should be enough

iron nymph
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I have 40b

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How do you hit the miners?

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this class has like no aoe

opaque sun
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Like combustion or use wasd+r keys to manual

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It can also just auto and eventually kill the moles

elfin cape
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They have tiny arms and legs

iron nymph
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such an unbeleivable hassle

fading cape
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I had 100B and it wasn't enough for just combustion to work

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I ran around but it was incredibly annoying. Up to 200B and trying again when I farm keys

iron nymph
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why isn't serrated swipe repeating anymore?

visual lava
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That was changed like a year ago

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The damage scaling was infinite

sacred monolith
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Are there recommended obal setups for each toon? The drop rate ones are obvious but not sure about some of the others.

sick sentinel
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I just slap their skilling obols on each one

bold quiver
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2 tries on 0,5% chemical , idk how people get stuck on this

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u just click and get it '.'

sick sentinel
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Silly people getting stuck on rng

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Like just get it wth

bold quiver
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right?

rotund smelt
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I see. My mistake was doing 0.1% claims for it GuyMontag

sick sentinel
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.01 best claim

bold quiver
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those crazy people getting ciz 0% showing there kkkkkk

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how many plants do u need minimum to click it?

sick sentinel
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I dunno

dapper prism
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basically none

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but like 40ish dna is 0.3% or 0.4%

valid hull
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Is there a short beginner post for sailing? Just looking on how to spec my SB in order of importance

vapid epoch
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Can someone help me with the snake quest? Pizza 1

heavy moth
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what shiny should i put there and forget exist once all lvl 6

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5***

signal osprey
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Shiny speed and meal effect

heavy moth
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till what level you put your shiny speed back

signal osprey
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I initially did shiny speed 6 > most good bonuses 5 > meal effect 8

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Now I'm doing shiny speed to 8 as well

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Might even go to 9 tbh

heavy moth
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sounds like a good plan

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already got the w6 ones to 5 so ill jsut let them rot there

worldly bane
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Doesn't even feel like I've had many good attempts at the 6th either. Maybe a few 7%s

barren otter
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1 more char

iron mesa
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Maxed Zerg prayer gives 14.5 or 15

bold quiver
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the odds arent that low for those evolutions

coral goblet
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I just was able to max my boxs for everyone with all the pens from statue farming

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Took so long to click those damn pens

pearl cedar
barren otter
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so close to being done with the 1mil statues

elfin cape
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Done with beans hahaha

signal osprey
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What exactly does done with beans even mean?

bold quiver
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finished 200k power statues probably

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some people are not DK worshipers!

coral goblet
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lol I meant for 200k power ya

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I know itโ€™s not done but for onyx atleast

signal osprey
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200k power is a warmup at beans Grumblo_Pray

potent lily
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How do i get 20k power statues ?

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Ill buy 4 per day so 5000 days to go

modern plaza
dapper prism
dapper prism
dapper prism
barren otter
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thats where my candy would go

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if i had any

dapper prism
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rofl

signal osprey
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I feel that Grumblo_Pensive

barren otter
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i only candied the 100k on 3 chars

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i active'd the rest

dapper prism
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Where you active ES?

barren otter
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yup

signal osprey
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I candied all the onyx and that trapping statue was kind of a prick ngl

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Still gotta do my 100k on everyone too at some point

dapper prism
barren otter
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i did wood mushrooms for active ES 100k statues

pearl cedar
dapper prism
barren otter
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definitely wasnt fast yea

signal osprey
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I plan to do the same but I need more power statues first

barren otter
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also i did like 140k worth of power statues at the start

signal osprey
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Just got back from my trip last night and I was just on clammies the whole time I was out of town

barren otter
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and had 6 chars afking fishing

signal osprey
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Still trying to get things caught back up

barren otter
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yea trying to do all this when you have little to no candies is pain

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have to active a ton of it

signal osprey
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Kinda looking forward to doing 100k on dreadlo so I finally have an excuse to do 1k mining

barren otter
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yea i got my mining to 914

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need to go back

signal osprey
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I think once I get all the power statues I need for everyone I'll swap a bunch of people to goat and just candy every skill to 1k while I get the 100k statues

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Might do some gmush while I'm at it

pearl cedar
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2 more doable skills until skill mastery is done

signal osprey
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You can do 1k breeding just farm more colo tickets grumblo_steal

pearl cedar
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I mean 100 breeding might be possible, hard to tell. Would require hella tickets though

barren otter
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i prefer watching the eggs turn diff colors

signal osprey
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Now I kinda want to try actually pushing for that and see what happens ๐Ÿค”

pearl cedar
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I mean I don't know if it is feasible. I have a decent exp multi and I only get .06% per egg at lvl 77.

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So probably like 6000 eggs for lvl 80

barren otter
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.06...

signal osprey
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Sounds like I need to stop being lazy with my ticket rolling hahaha

barren otter
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im going to 75 aint no way im doing 100

pearl cedar
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Dunno how many eggs I get per run though

signal osprey
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I might as well do a bunch of W4 colo anyway to get all my keys for 100 troll runs on everyone

pearl cedar
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True true

signal osprey
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I'm gonna have to discount push the breeding exp stamp Grumblo_scared

pearl cedar
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240 is doable

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Kinda pricey though. More expensive than 70 refinery

signal osprey
barren otter
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whats your breeding xp multi buddha?

pearl cedar
signal osprey
barren otter
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hmm

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75 might not be that fast for me then

pearl cedar
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Fck I have to do quests before I sample

pearl cedar
signal osprey
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210

pearl cedar
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Hmm same as mine, wonder what Im missing

signal osprey
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Did you max the BM talent?

prisma drift
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Hello people who are good at cooking

signal osprey
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I rebooked it recently

prisma drift
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What is that sand giant

signal osprey
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Doot shroom

pearl cedar
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Yeah my bm lvl is low

prisma drift
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I was afraid of that

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You canโ€™t even candy it Eyes

signal osprey
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Nope but it can be done and so there it is

prisma drift
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I donโ€™t even wanna know how long Iโ€™d have to active afk it

signal osprey
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Couple of weeks

pearl cedar
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Taunting me to finish it

signal osprey
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Maybe a month or two if you have bad damage and not enough respawn gear

barren otter
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i am gladly leaving mine at 70/69

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not going out of my way for the rest

signal osprey
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I'll get around to doing doot shroom sooner or later

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Not in any rush though. Still have plenty of goals to push before that

pearl cedar
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Once I'm done with statues I think I'll get back to it

modern plaza
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i love how money just starts to roll in later on

pearl cedar
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Dunno though cause I want to hit 5k total

signal osprey
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Yeah I want 5k as well. Also plan on pushing pearler vial to 10 soon too

pearl cedar
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To 10?

barren otter
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5k?

signal osprey
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Meant 10k

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As in 5

pearl cedar
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Lol

signal osprey
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My bad

barren otter
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oh

modern plaza
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holy shit i was about to take out my notebook

pearl cedar
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I should probably take mine past lvl 2 one day

modern plaza
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im here at 12x, end gamers at 20x, and this guy at 3000x

signal osprey
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Just find the bonuses ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

pearl cedar
opaque sun
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gotta start aiming for lv13 pearl vial at some point

pearl cedar
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Best bonus finder

sacred monolith
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Bobjoe pickle vial is where its at

pearl cedar
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Well w5 made normal vials doable, maybe w6 will make rare vials doable

signal osprey
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Yeah I was just thinking that

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W5 was such insane power creep that I wouldnt be surprised if level 10 pearler becomes possible

modern plaza
pearl cedar
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Also going to need a viable way to get 100k hours of candy

signal osprey
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In theory our pearler rates are going to just keep scaling with ES over time

pearl cedar
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Only thing that will hold it back is portal length unfortunately

signal osprey
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Surely we get another 100 talent levels for no good reason in W6

pearl cedar
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Eventually we will have enough damage to use all the hp prayers and still outkill portal

modern plaza
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oh lit, just add like 100 more levels on the atom collider lvls

pearl cedar
signal osprey
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I kinda of agree that books can be tedious but at the same time theyre also so fast now that even if it was book level it wont take long to get most of the important stuff up

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I just book random shit at this point

pearl cedar
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Thats true, how fast are your books now?

opaque sun
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ES is going to be meh in future worlds, but going to be important to vial the rare mats

signal osprey
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Mines slow wtf

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Whats your building up to?

pearl cedar
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You hourly click bubble?

opaque sun
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By that time heโ€™s gonna be rockin 50x base dr and getting like 1b mob mats per 5 min or something

signal osprey
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I only went to like 300 on the bubble because it doesnt do anything

opaque sun
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i hourly clicked that bubble to 90% checkout speed

signal osprey
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There was a book timer calc sheet and from 300 to 6000 would shave off like 90 seconds or something from my timer

lapis mesa
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getting places. just got the trilobite artifact, seems to have done a decent dent

signal osprey
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Its actually such a bad bubble lol

pearl cedar
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My tower is at 121

signal osprey
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Dang mines 125

lapis mesa
signal osprey
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I guess my meal is just shit

opaque sun
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Its easy to print, and also gets off of nblb theeshold so hourly clicking library bubble was worth for me at least

pearl cedar
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Stamp?

prisma drift
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W4 donโ€™t know name

lapis mesa
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let me go look

signal osprey
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44 but its additive with bubble so it shouldnt do much

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Wait I forgot to level the atom collider up lol

pearl cedar
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Oh my stamp os at 52 and bubble at 1100

signal osprey
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Thats probably it

pearl cedar
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Oh yeah atom collider too

lapis mesa
pearl cedar
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Oh mines only at 17/20

signal osprey
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Yeah mines just 10

pearl cedar
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Let me go max it and see how fast it gets

signal osprey
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I don't even think I have enough to max it

prisma drift
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How many atoms do yโ€™all have IdleHMMMM

opaque sun
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particles or atom levels?

prisma drift
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Particles

opaque sun
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Particle wise like 3-4m, but i keep using them

signal osprey
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I currently have 1.2m but I just got level 20 fluoride a couple days ago and that was like 7.5m

prisma drift
pearl cedar
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602k remaining

signal osprey
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I click too much though so my atom production is kinda bad

opaque sun
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never bothered to count but making like million particles a day or so

prisma drift
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I can only get like 150-200k a day with doot EmojiSuperSad

signal osprey
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Not really in a rush though because once you max collider bonuses then atoms dont really do anything

pearl cedar
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Ah man only got my library time down to 4h 21 minutes

pearl cedar
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Need to push tower to get sub 4

signal osprey
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Whats your meal level?

prisma drift
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Max all atom bonuses GuyMontag

signal osprey
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A soft cap is still a cap

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I'm not gonna go full atom mode for a bonus that I cant get anyway

prisma drift
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You could hit it Grumblo_Pray

pearl cedar
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56 fortune cookie

prisma drift
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Just let your grandkids take over if it takes too long happy

signal osprey
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So only 1 level ahead of me. Yeah I guess it is that atom collider thats holding me back mostly

barren otter
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surely active vman farms mad statues/hour????

pearl cedar
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Though will be 57 soonish

vagrant mountain
signal osprey
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Yeah I should do some ladling soon too now that fluoride is done and I did a little more dchef

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Also got like 3 more upgrades in the stamp

fast verge
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whats the best way to farm obal frags?

vagrant mountain
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farm obol frags in w2 from crystals usually sandy pots

pearl cedar
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Hmm what's optimal chef level

fast verge
vagrant mountain
fast verge
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i see

signal osprey
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I think most people stop around 760 but thats only 80% so you can squeeze some more out of it if you want

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I recently did 1050 for 85%

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Think its like 1600 or something for 90% so not sure I wanna do that

pearl cedar
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Ah shit mine is seriously underleveled

fast verge
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bro i forgot this is a thing

pearl cedar
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Only lvl 387 lmao

signal osprey
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Honestly thats probably enough to do most of what can be done with cooking really

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My 700 levels over you isn't going to amount to a whole lot unfortunately lol

stuck pasture
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Lol DK is just ridiculous

pearl cedar
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Probably I've done first page of 60, most Peeps haven't gone too much further than canoli for lvl 60

signal osprey
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I stopped at cannoli last time but I should be able to get further now

vagrant mountain
signal osprey
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If I can at least get to riceball I'll be happy to call cooking "done" until lava gives us something else to work with

stuck pasture
pearl cedar
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For like whatever your next meal level up is on time?

vagrant mountain
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i got one on my ES today even though i had it filtered

stuck pasture
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Fek itโ€™s like a clover tidal wave

signal osprey
pearl cedar
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Oh hmm mines like 4k but I just go in order of what IT says

granite grove
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just if lucky lads can be crafted to some form of stackable lucky lad tokens

lapis mesa
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the luckiest lads, and its like.. wierdly glued together on popsicle sticks

signal osprey
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I'll see how far I can make these ladles go but I definitely need a bit more before I get to rice ball

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Might max the cooking stamp after multitool

pearl cedar
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Yeah I've got that to do and crystal stamp

signal osprey
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Then I think I can get 140 cans TD for MSA cooking as well

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Also I finish orange soul on my next worship day and I almost have another dreadlo bar vial level too so a bit of speed there too

pearl cedar
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Oh I always forget about TD I ignore td

signal osprey
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I dont do it often but I'm almost caught up to pancake levels

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I think 140 cans should be pretty doable and if it is then I'm only missing 160 waka but that shit isnt happening for awhile lol

pearl cedar
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I still haven't unlocked the final frosty prayer hahaha

vagrant mountain
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wtf 160 waka

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kek

signal osprey
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Yeah pancake is just built different

vagrant mountain
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i havent done TD in like a month

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every time its like 3 hrs

signal osprey
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He has almost 200% more atom damage than I do

barren otter
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oh active vman for 100k statues is pretty dec

vagrant mountain
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damn

signal osprey
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and I'm at 374% lol

vagrant mountain
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thats wild

serene forum
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Best mob for ES? Statue farminf

vagrant mountain
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check pins

signal osprey
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ES doesnt really care about mobs the way DK does so if you want 100k statues just anything in W1 will be fine

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Pick a vial you're missing or something

pearl cedar
barren otter
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woodmushrooms for added statue drop

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if you're purely going for statues/hr

serene forum
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Im trying to do statue on ES not DK

barren otter
signal osprey
opaque sun
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If statue w1 on ES, might as well do on woodshrooms for the added bullseye

vagrant mountain
opaque sun
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Its a bad crystal statue farmer anyway

serene forum
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Also is midias touch good? The 1k max HP seems bad for wormholeโ€™s

opaque sun
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bad for es

serene forum
opaque sun
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the average dr drop from using that is more than 118% dr that midas gives

opaque sun
#

double up thing sometimes makes it like 1/3 efficient in tasks

scenic locust
#

Can someone explain this math to me? 0.66% per meal level at 531 meal levels should be 350%, not 32%

What's going on here?

opaque sun
#

0.066 to 531 power, and it applies a percent (x0.01) again due to some lava methods

#

Its applying percentage twice

scenic locust
#

Well 0.66^531 gives an astronomically small number, so that can't be it. And 1.66^531 gives an astronomically large number so that can't be it either

opaque sun
#

1.0066 ^ 531 to be more precise

#

+0.66% multiplicative bonus per meal level, to determine the percent bonus

scenic locust
#

I see

#

But yeah that seems like it should give 3200%

#

As the math comes out to 32x then

opaque sun
#

And as i said, lava makes that into a % at the end

#

So 32.887%

frigid acorn
#

this is the answer

scenic locust
#

So there's just a random factor of 100 tossed in lol

opaque sun
#

He is applying percent twice despite it started as a pecent already

scenic locust
#

This seems like it scales unbelievably quickly though if this is being applied multiplicatively on every level

opaque sun
#

Its like few T% on mine

scenic locust
#

Lol

granite grove
#

goes hard on really high dish level, but meh if not much

scenic locust
#

Is this the top priority talent for vman?

opaque sun
#

3090 levels, 578T%

granite grove
#

one of the top yes

opaque sun
#

Vman maybe a bad cook, but is the best cooking advisor

granite grove
#

or you can just do 2nd talent for it and switch it off if not doing BB ladle cooking

scenic locust
#

I don't get what you mean

opaque sun
#

if you are low on void talent points

scenic locust
#

Oh, talent presets

#

Got it

opaque sun
#

You only need to switch vman talent when using ladles like purple jewel

scenic locust
#

Just unlocked vman today so just kind of figuring out what's what

opaque sun
#

But honestly its good qol to keep all bottom row talents on

#

Decent speed run is enough to max the relevant bottom row ones

#

(Except the exp one. That one is ass)

scenic locust
#

My first speed run was 17 portals

stuck elbow
#

been pumping the encourage on this so hard... but the returns are getting kinda bad. last encourage only gave +.2 increase and -.2 decrease zzz

opaque sun
#

Just man up and press gamba at that point

stuck elbow
#

XD im busy playing poe recently so i am ok waiting some more days on this.. maybe at 25%

opaque sun
#

Whats worse than resetting is resetting after spending 100 encouragements

stuck elbow
#

nahhhh i can see your point, but for me, i would regret not having spent that encouragement

opaque sun
#

just choose the option that is least damaging to your mental health

wind umbra
#

what happens to encouragements if u fail but dont reset? do u lose encouragement or keep it?

opaque sun
#

it keeps until you succeed or reset on that tier

wind umbra
#

oh ok thanks

opaque sun
#

Not entirely sure what happens if you reset and come back to the same one again

exotic juniper
#

im half way to snail a couple more days..

wind umbra
#

oh id assume u dont have encourage

#

but u never know

stuck elbow
#

if it kept the encouragement after deleveling thatd be too op hahaha

opaque sun
#

Since encouragement is not permanent buffs, makes it less viable sadly

#

It would be more strategic decision if it was permanent

zealous niche
opaque sun
#

As of now its like choose the poison that you want to die in

wind umbra
amber dragon
#

ES's polytheism at lv0 doesn't do anything right

exotic juniper
#

should i save up for the 100% or risk the low % chances?

amber dragon
slow olive
#

Any good tips to get my void walker able to kill katlekruk

lapis mesa
obsidian nacelle
opaque sun
#

doesnt matter much with the expected cost for doing either way

#

its more of a choice what doesnt hurt your feeling

obsidian nacelle
dapper prism
#

If you're dmg is that low, you will get more dmg once u get your W5 alchemy unlocked

amber dragon
#

I just unlocked 6th god with 5%

slow olive
lapis mesa
#

being able to port vman to farthest level is just amazing.. my little Vman is about to pull some huge xp from moles lol

dapper prism
obsidian nacelle
#

If anything my Vman is maxing 25 mil and is just unable to out damage the heals he gets

slow olive
#

Sucks that I'm gated cause he is my 6th character and I was able to make the boots for most people but anything else I need him to kill katlekruk

dapper prism
#

Rushing divine gear itself is a bit meh imo

#

Other priorities that can let you do that easier

#

And divine gear isnt always better than magma

hexed crescent
#

Farming statues was great..

dapper prism
#

yup, got ~8k on my first day alone while active DK with bronze ones filtered out xD

exotic juniper
#

unlocking eldirtch with about 24 more hours of afk...

dapper prism
#

I should really do Lustr and Starfire cards.. less statues but to i guess get it 5*

clear quartz
#

oh yea w3 statues is miserable

dapper prism
#

Oh thats Mining to get alts to 100k

opaque sun
#

big pick works on statues due to being effective tool swing increase modifier

dapper prism
#

Ah nice

dapper prism
opaque sun
#

oh sorry, bb one was on starfire

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During active big pick is just a single swing per use. But for afk lava translates that to number of swing times i suppose

modern plaza
feral hemlock
#

Btw guys whats your crystal chance?

wind umbra
#

he means 100k statues

feral hemlock
#

Mine is 1 in27

feral hemlock
wind umbra
#

there is quest after to collect 100k statues

feral hemlock
#

But the second quest needs power statues not lumberbob right?

last quiver
#

@exotic juniper I'd go for 100

#

you already have the roll

barren otter
marsh cliff
#

Whatโ€™re some of the first things you do when entering w5 as a doot owner? Almost there and just wanna rough guide to follow! Tia

feral hemlock
#

Oh i see thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

opaque sun
#

100k for if you want the kachow statues

#

If you only care for the onyx, dont have to worry too much

zealous niche
#

My plan is to get every char onto the 100k then let them complete it in the background over however long it takes

barren otter
#

but the crit damage gains

sacred verge
#

did any1 deposit kachow yet? if so how much gains did u get?

thin kernel
#

well it dubble my crit damge

#

but my kachow status lvl is relly low :/ working on getting status from the rest of my amy XD

bright current
#

finally, a certifed "pretty good" captain

sacred verge
#

doubled sheet crit dmg=

#

?

bright current
#

DR and crystal spawn are about the only thing you can do besides orb levels

thin kernel
sacred verge
#

thats not very much

bright current
#

go to gelatinous cubes, done bother farming for the pearls AND statues at the same time

sacred verge
#

but you havent deposited yet then

#

you just made it onyx

bright current
#

probably faster to DK at cubes, then ES at clammies than it is to just DK clammies, if u want both pearls and statues

zealous niche
#

That sounds like no choc chip

opaque sun
light junco
#

What's the best map for cranium cooking?

opaque sun
#

like in w7-w8, very possible

#

Its only been few months since the previous statue related upgrade via vman

modern plaza
#

by diamond statue we'll already have farmable kachows

#

i'd hope lol...

vagrant mountain
#

so close yet so far

modern plaza
#

honestly, getting us to grrind out all the statues is already really good for our account progression

modern plaza
vagrant mountain
barren otter
#

1mil done

vagrant mountain
#

i candied nuttos and walking sticks for eclipse

#

not enough

#

gonna finish rest on ES

#

need divine scarf before i hard commit to candies

dapper prism
barren otter
#

pretty solid

vagrant mountain
dapper prism
barren otter
#

i left it at 250

dapper prism
#

also mind screeny all your toolbox statue lvls?

barren otter
#

some are clearly neglected

dapper prism
#

W3 xD

#

Mainly just so i can see how im doing, going to candy these 4 last chars now

barren otter
#

ill probably farm out some more cons statues

#

but trapping/worship statues arent worth it imo

dapper prism
#

even con would be pretty hard

modern plaza
barren otter
barren otter
dapper prism
#

Setting up these alts is the most annoying part about candy..

#

3 card sets to create :/

barren otter
#

yup...

opaque sun
#

I just used more candy in place of less setuphahaha

barren otter
#

time to get vman to 450 so i can finally wear the trophy on it

dapper prism
#

426 sigh

#

You going to active him?

barren otter
#

yea

#

im 434

dapper prism
#

It's so damn slow

opaque sun
#

bb was actually worse getting him to 450 than vman

barren otter
#

surely it wont take long

dapper prism
#

Mhmm, think i should really active bubo for like a week and get that xD

opaque sun
#

With 50x class exp, you can even aim for family lv5000

barren otter
#

got a few lined up

opaque sun
#

Killroy reset gem cost is like nothing since now we can farm gems even more easy with boss keys

dapper prism
#

Once you got the full gem shop and backups for w6 and the next update thatll give a new gem rota since it's been a hot minute. yup ๐Ÿ˜„

barren otter
#

i got pretty lucky with killroy this week

#

2x mage stages and bubo got 1k+ kills on both

#

idk if thats even that high or not

dapper prism
#

2 Mages ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

#

Was pots xD

barren otter
#

i cry when it shows archer

#

cause i know itll be low...

opaque sun
#

I hate when killroy is in a map with catching bugs, they be like โ€œbut I must catch themโ€

dapper prism
#

Not pots, gmush* woups

barren otter
#

oh man DK on gmush sounds nice

dapper prism
#

Not sure who you mean, but mine is only 76

barren otter
#

not high enough

dapper prism
#

I havnt touched my stamps in a bit.. xD

#

So much green ๐Ÿ‘€

#

Need to make space on my vman, as soon as im done with these statues

#

At least im at 87% gilded already

barren otter
dapper prism
#

But could definetely get that higher pretty easily

barren otter
#

need more gilded...

hollow wasp
dapper prism
#

Rift unlock, for every 100 stamp levels (top left) you have 1% chance to get a gilded a day. Which is a 95% discount token

hollow wasp
#

Ohhh okay

dapper prism
#

So Herus at 9600 stamp level has a 96% a day to get a 95% discount

#

And it works with the Atom discount that caps at 90%,

granite grove
#

need another 90% multiplicative discount

barren otter
#

oh lvling my vman might not be that bad

dapper prism
#

actual cost is only a few k though?

#

well yeh but thats without discounts..

#

But that's how you do it, with gilded stamp and atom if you cant multitool anymore?

#

Alternatively golden food stamp ig

barren otter
#

seems good

dapper prism
barren otter
#

toolbox has a active exp calc

#

omg...

dapper prism
barren otter
#

i didnt have any exp cards on

amber dagger
#

Which island next?

dapper prism
#

Although i disagree a bit with fractal ๐Ÿคท

amber dagger
#

How so?

dapper prism
#

Comes down to needs

dapper prism
amber dagger
#

So its not really worth it for you

#

Should I just go for the new fishing spot?

barren otter
#

ok cards made a big diff

amber dagger
#

Ight imma do fishing thanks!

dapper prism
#

active cards are multi and huge

barren otter
#

yea

#

dont have moon rubied unfortunately

dapper prism
#

got snelbie?

#

thats some high af power

#

Is your kitchen underleveled or something?

#

For pet chance unlocks

#

Or even the carrot/cake meta should help?

#

Just as usual, use the guide sheet

#

but with that power, you're already on the higher end of power for arena

viral snow
#

If you got mimic you can easily reach 75 or even 100 if youre lucky

dapper prism
#

always gotta sort the food by time, btw, else it wont really give as much info in perspective

#

Use the guide sheet above..

viral snow
#

Yeh just use the rng combo in the guide
I made it to 120 with 4 slots and that combo
And even lower power

#

You dont need snelbie

dapper prism
#

No, there's the non snelbie teams too

#

the carrot, cake slime mimic stuff

vagrant mountain
#

i gave in and candied the rest of my statues grumblo_thumbsup

viral snow
#

Snelbie just makes it super easy

opaque sun
#

in exchange for time

vagrant mountain
#

nice

clear quartz
#

nice

dapper prism
#

at least i think have to check xD

#

ffs forgot to check anvils again

#

got distracted with the pet chat

clear quartz
#

i think i need way more drop to do the ES ones, i think im making like 100/hr on the accuracy ones right now

dapper prism
#

100ish/h is normal for bullseye sadly

clear quartz
#

oof

dapper prism
#

you doing nuttos, right?

clear quartz
#

i thought the note about nuttos was for candy, is it bettter for active?

dapper prism
#

I was getting around 10x candy

#

You active at wood mush

clear quartz
#

yeah thats what im doin, active at wmush and doing 100 ish/hr active

#

that im guessing is low then if 100hr is what people think is their candy rate

dapper prism
#

yup. 100/h active on es is low

clear quartz
#

what kind of drop rate do yall have generally?

dapper prism
#

18.5x or something

clear quartz
#

10.1 is kinda ouch, but think im only at like 11.75 with dk having midas on

#

oh yeah, im way early then

dapper prism
#

yeh was 18.5x DR with 2.6t dmg, wormhole going to 170s

clear quartz
#

hmmm. i get to 160 ish on my wormhole, but yeah, my drop is abysmal

modern plaza
#

wow iโ€™m not looking forward to that farm

#

gonna afk my whole platoon there for a while

clear quartz
#

i need a boatload more dmg i think too, but yeah, drop ill have to figure out

modern plaza
#

no worries. gotta start the grind some where, like with doot

clear quartz
#

think the closest thing i can get will be the divine stuff with drop%, otherwise just have to wait i think

dapper prism
#

wow wtf...

#

i accidentally put woodular circles on filter

#

guess all those statues, rip no circles xD

zinc torrent
#

With maoi head do i need world shrines from the lab?

dapper prism
#

Yes, they do different things

stuck pasture
clear quartz
#

need to spike my sampling i think, i cant remotely spend my collider atoms per day before reset, but unsure thats as much of a priority as other things

opaque sun
dapper prism
opaque sun
#

And its not like avoiding world tour gets you a better lab position

vagrant mountain
#

going for nm kruk hope it doesnt take 5ever XD

zinc torrent
#

I mean they're chilling near the divinty shrine, just curious if the node was still needed with the artifact

barren otter
opaque sun
#

without world tour, shine exp only counts for afk of that map

dapper prism
#

Longer

#

88b was 12min for me

opaque sun
#

With lab, it counts any afk of same world

#

Moai only applies to the bonus effect of the shrine

vagrant mountain
#

i do got 286% kachow now

zenith cape
#

Just made it to w5 how many days should I leave everyone on divinity?

barren otter
#

yea hes got that juiced cdmg now

dapper prism
#

wow, snapshotting card chance made 1h candy go from 110 cards to 163 xD

zenith cape
#

So like 2 weeks?

dapper prism
#

Check pin pins for some info

dapper prism
dapper prism
#

There's probably a lot more, but just to give some basic ideas

zenith cape
#

Oh I see I see

#

I'll check on them in a day or two I'm close to getting vman so I also wanna do that

dapper prism
#

Main helpful thing with divinity early on will be 2nd god, bear, as you can link all your alts to it so your active will benefit from lab bonuses while out.

zenith cape
#

Speaking of lab I really gotta do lab. I only unlocked the first slot for all of em except for one and then never touched it again

dapper prism
clear quartz
#

lab/div i need to fix for sure, same

#

very much looking forward to doot trivilizing some of that, but alas

granite grove
#

goat still need actual ppl in lab to work

opaque sun
#

W6 will probably add a hub in town that acts as lab/div/new skill

clear quartz
#

need to also remember to burn all my water before swapping god stuff, sigh, just lost like 1k of all my waters because of diconnect

opaque sun
#

But considering goat god exists, w4 may still continue to be the hub town

serene kiln
#

What is the optimal lvl for the divine orb

opaque sun
#

267, 300, 310

serene kiln
#

Thank you

granite grove
#

267 if with mana PO box maxed, 300 if without

not sure about 310

opaque sun
#

267 for most people who cant get to 310+.
300 if you can remove mana box.

#

310+ is for โ€œjust get long enough duration to offset the time loss from overlapโ€

#

Once more book levels are added like say 350, its just max it

serene kiln
#

Oh ok nice

dapper prism
#

250 gems to remove mana PO box btw from gemshop purchase

serene kiln
#

Why would you remove mana box?

dapper prism
#

for longer orb duration

granite grove
#

longer orb duration without CD overlap

opaque sun
#

Longer recast so game cant recast on its own to overlap

granite grove
#

CD effectively caps your duration in a sense

opaque sun
#

the game is like made to recast โ€œwhen current orb duration is like 5 sec or lessโ€

dapper prism
#

ffs using 100x+ 1h candy per eclipse is annoying af xD

serene kiln
#

How many kph are you at?

opaque sun
#

270-290 is like the danger zone where the overlap time loss is greater than the seconds earned for raising talent levels

dapper prism
#

Getting to the slower maps on w2 at, 9.3m (moonmoon)

serene kiln
#

Oh ok sheesh thatโ€™s still Amazing

magic oyster
#

Eesh, TD bosses could really do with a 90% nerf to total hp

dapper prism
#

In other words, thats a 17.4m gmush rate

opaque sun
#

Then at talent level 300 it kind of evens out the time loss and time gained, and around 310+ it starts to become net positive again

dapper prism
clear quartz
#

i need to work on TD something fierce ....

vagrant mountain
clear quartz
#

lol rip

errant sluice
#

is sandcastle still the go to w2 crystal farm spot?

opaque sun
#

Hasnt been the go 2 for a long time

clear quartz
#

so 13 days to get trimmed construction unlocked, so not really a worthwhile goal atm, need.... an unknown amount of time to get proper tower lvls to survive w121 for rushogen, which i think is my next big thing to help me with sampling

opaque sun
#

Like that was pre DK/ES era

clear quartz
#

trying to think of what other goal makes sense right now

opaque sun
#

Snelbies are misinformation too

vagrant mountain
errant sluice
#

pots?

dapper prism
#

ffs just made 4 purple luck obols and realized they dont go to hexagon after kekW

opaque sun
#

They are actually weaker than sand pots even for statues/obols

clear quartz
#

sand pots and tysons or some such yeah?

opaque sun
#

Tysons for statues/obols, sand pots for total value including glass shards

errant sluice
opaque sun
#

The wide map layout of snelbies wastes time potentially running left and right, causing very inconsistent orb kills, resulting in a worse average than sand pots

crystal ginkgo
#

What's is the need for glass shards?

clear quartz
#

stamp

errant sluice
crystal ginkgo
#

Gotcha

opaque sun
#

Glass shards effectively are โ€œmax stamp levelsโ€

#

And you cant have enough of them unless you found a way to 1050m stack them in a day

unreal fox
#

XD nice captain

sour flare
#

Did you guys deposit your 10k Kachow statues, or save?

rotund sand
#

What happened to tips and tricks section?

junior arrow
#

and if you can get 100% bonus on the vial as well then do that as well first, then your statues are worth x7 as much

vagrant mountain
#

my hunter taking longer to kill kruk than my vman Soulface

opaque sun
#

Deposit kapows in small batches of 1 lv per deposit to maximize the application of startue exp bubble

#

When statues level up multiple levels at once, it skips applying startue exp for those in-between levels

dapper prism
magic oyster
opaque sun
#

Just dont deposit all at once

#

For practicality of typing numbers, i just went like 11, 22, 33 โ€ฆ.. 1111, 2222, 3333 and so on

dapper prism
stoic cypress
outer sage
#

How do I get the Slab to recognize all the things I already own... like Storage chests, bags, etc.?

dapper prism
#

unless its an item in storage/inventory that u can drop and pickup

#

but certain quest rewards, if u did it on all 10 classes = rip and wait for 11th class

outer sage
#

Yeah I was already past all that on all chars when Slab came out

#

Been trying to get it to see my stuff since

#

Wish we could delete a char and start over

#

This is the only game like this where once you start a char it is locked for life... no restarts

dapper prism
#

I mean, new google account ig

outer sage
#

I have been playing since this game came out... if I had to start over I would just delete it. Lol

dapper prism
#

The slab system could surely be better

#

It should be introduced early into the game properly

potent maple
#

there are ways to farm the old stuff, just not enough was "fixed" when they said they fixed it

faint acorn
potent maple
#

i can see if the code wasn't there in the first place, it'd be hard to fix it, though on premise i agree totally

#

like, it just didn't know to record it in the past

faint acorn
#

But I think quest items got added to slab retroactively?

potent maple
#

and other stuff

dapper prism
#

Were the all?

potent maple
#

such as: the hat you start out with got deleted by a lot of players before slab came out, now it's on the slab and we deleted it already and have no new character slots to get a new hat

dapper prism
#

So some stuff still missing

potent maple
#

yes you can farm the hat but like 1 in a gazillion or whatever for 1 slab item that everone gets for free now

dapper prism
#

Had is easy to grind

#

Just did eclipse and got like 9-12ish of those (e.g. red cap one, not the arcade in that pic)

steady beacon
#

is the only reason that people are doing the onyx statues quest on all their characters for the kachow statues from the reward? Or are there other bonuses to doing it multiple times that justify doing it ASAP, before turning in other statues?

#

Basically, once I've done it on one character, am I good? Can I just come back and do the kachow statues at a later date?

dapper prism
#

for each onyx statue unlocked, each statue deposited is worth a lot more

steady beacon
#

Yeah, so you give 20k of each statue once.

dapper prism
#

(1 statue = 7 statues when having 100% snakeskin vial and all onyx)

steady beacon
#

But people are farming 200k power statues. that's only for the kachow stamps, right? I can do that later?

dapper prism
#

Yeh

#

Get 20k kachow to unlock onyx

#

then you can do the other 8 alts whenever

steady beacon
#

ah, got it. so need a minimum of 40k power statues.

#

the rest I can do when I have higher drop rates.

dapper prism
#

And then for Kachow, you do slow deposits.

#

To maximize your gain from the yellow bubble for onyx

steady beacon
#

It's going to take me a week of active farming to hit the 20k, because my DR is capped at 5.00 at the moment. So I'd rather leave that for later

#

and you only deposit one level at a time, I heard.

dapper prism
#

Here's a rough example Vid on how you deposit the Kachow Statues:
Usually I would do the amounts per tab. Amounts will change the higher the level.
But you try and maximize your gain from yellow alch bubble that gives % onto next level, if you deposit multiple levels at once, e.g. 10 levels, the levels in between won't get the benefit of that statue progress skip each level.

Vid for deposit starts at 25 seconds.

dapper prism
#

Especially if your DR is 5x now, that means you're lacking on other content, like obols probably

junior arrow
junior arrow
#

at least at first, will pick up pace a lot later

dapper prism
#

First inventory stacks for me were 5's, then 22's now 44s, already at 88s now

#

I do double/triple digits so i can spam the same key on numbpad easier like 9 9 enter mouseclick

junior arrow
#

i didnt know the yellow bubble effect didnt take place if you skip levels though, i feel like i wasted a lot of levels not doing it

dapper prism
steady beacon
dapper prism
#

woups, wrong click btw

junior arrow
#

what level did you get your yellow bubble to before starting. i am at 246 atm. not sure if i should bother more or just go for it, since i will be done with onyx statues soon

dapper prism
#

In 1 hour, so, you get some of that stuff pretty fast later on

steady beacon
#

that's crazy

dapper prism
steady beacon
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I'm still relying a lot on the <5.00 chips at the moment.

dapper prism
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Do you even have 4* crystal chance cards?

steady beacon
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I have a full set of pop obols, half of which are at silver.

dapper prism
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Let alone drop rate cards, or obols

junior arrow
steady beacon
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yeah, should probably work on the cards first...

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i have genies at 3 stars, and poop at 2.

dapper prism
steady beacon
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but I do have the chocolate chip

dapper prism
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Seriously, don't focus on onyx and stuff yet. Go focus on getting DR and stuff

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Pop obols, dice obols, cards. all that kinda stuff

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Just think, waste 1 week on powers, and then what? what did it do for you really? barely anything yet.

steady beacon
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Because adding a few % of drop rate by going from bronze to silver doesn't feel like it's going to boost me much.

dapper prism
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Obols are a bit over 3x in total

steady beacon
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And I've already maxed the drop rate post office box.

dapper prism
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Cards with doublers is another ~3x or something

dapper prism
steady beacon
steady beacon
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I'm actually getting the other statues from crystals at double the rate. Power statues just drop slow.

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But yeah, still a lot of active time.

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I'll focus on other stuff for now then.

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Thanks!

dapper prism
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true too, youd have 7 statues once u have the powers

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But a week is just not worth it ๐Ÿ˜„

thin kernel
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best map for status farming? is it a flat one and then max crystal ?

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on other then es and dk XD

zinc torrent
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I got this first try i just want to know if everyone gets it at there first time

prisma lance
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Small adjustment

zealous niche
zinc torrent
solid epoch
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yeah the trophy is huge tho

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though that would suck for him if he got that cape before accepting the quest

vagrant mountain
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fuck lol

iron mesa
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Tell me your Big P level guys

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Anyone?

somber sparrow
iron mesa
somber sparrow
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1,35

iron mesa
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Hm

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Anyone with 1.4?

somber sparrow
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what do u need to know? XD

somber sparrow
iron mesa
iron mesa
misty spindle
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If I align my ES with goat god and bear god with talent, am I going to still get div xp as if I was in the lab?

dreamy spruce
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no

vagrant mountain
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why cant i start the next round

late ridge
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107

sharp wind
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What class best for candying w3 for statues?

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SB?

sharp wind
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That makes u need to wait for the ores and fishing longer

vagrant mountain
sharp wind
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Only w2

vagrant mountain
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ok ill try without midas

open lichen
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I noticed the Seasalt island fishing AFK XP/HR showing higher that what you actually get when using time candy. Anyone else experience this?

vagrant mountain
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still not working without midas

sharp wind
tacit tulip
vagrant mountain
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oh ok

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nvm

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working now

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so dumb

tacit tulip
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bascally the gathering nodes count as mobs

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the next wave won't appear until they despawn

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to despawn, they have slowly ticking down invisible health

pearl quail
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!merit5

obtuse orbitBOT
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IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

  1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
  2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
  3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
  4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
  5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
tacit tulip
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Midas increases that health - thus your issue

barren otter
sharp wind
barren otter
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trickz wrote something about that in pins

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but tldr divine trophy heavily skews which one is better for you

sharp wind
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Ill check it thanks

short fulcrum
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hey guys what's the fastest way to collect power statues?

tacit tulip
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DK built for crystals/DR at beans

pearl quail
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How to unlock the green bits

wooden dust
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Grab a tom of bits

feral whale
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pet damage even make sence after i close 200 round arena, and i know that im easy open all spice places?

wooden dust
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Faster spice generation

viral snow
wooden dust
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Other than that. The first storage alot for the beastmastee talent

feral whale
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? i thought that for collect spice need high power lvl on pet not it actual damage

sharp wind
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Does any catching drop the same rate of oceanman statue in w2? Cause in the pins, it said any catching

short fulcrum
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yeah right buddy

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excuse me

viral snow
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Its like the 10th time today
Did you even check the pins before you wrote your question ?

short fulcrum
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I checked your mom

viral snow
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How original

iron mesa
short fulcrum
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Always

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it's as if you are OBLIGED to answer the same question 10 20 30 times

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or respond to it in any way

iron mesa
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Its pinned in w4 chat too tho

short fulcrum
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ah ok then here's a similar question then

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what's the fastest way to farm health statue?

iron mesa
short fulcrum
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is this question pinned?