#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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Else itll be like 80-100h
What's the highest/best statue rate location for an active like bubo?
Dreadlo I'm getting 1-2k per hour or more haven't really been paying attention
Yeh got around 1.5k+ on vman, but bubo only at 1k
Bubo maybe slimes or sticks. Don't really remember
should i have started mining lustre by w5
which is better snake god or flutterbis for maestro skill farm
On which char?
fresh w5 is the best time to backtack and get stuff done
while everyone is on div, you go active and catch up important stuff
what about div
bubo beans i was getting 70k/hr
dont i need todo that for like 2 weeks
i cant active either
If you are online and can active, it's still best to active on 1 char for important stuff
Some things you could work on: #lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
Ty, guess ill just bean on some, did you candy or active for SB ?
Recommended to get bear/goat on everyone shove everyone that you can afford in lab since you're Prob not 75 in lab. And go focus a few chars at a time to catch up previous worlds
yeh 7k is rough
yea... good if you dont have candies
but even 7k is slow
was honestly more surprised with how fast active bubo got statues at beans @dapper prism
i half joked about doing it yesterday and finished 100k in 90mins
my only issue will be moving the gear and chips around and all that crap -,-
no midas prayer on active es farming?
Also don't know where or what to toss all my alts on to do once i finish these statues
Correct, i'd just never use it on ES unless you candy i guess you could. Else you'll just forget about it 9 out of 10 times xD
i have to get my shrines up so a ton of afk lab
aight thanks!
I'm tempted to move my shrines, either wurms or gmush
think last time i claimed afk hours for shrines my avg shrine building lvl was in the 60s
my avg now is in the 100s...
where in tool can u see em?
the avg?
that ui
oh thats under "account"
ohhh right lol
avg building lvl i just estimated
I need to be more active on con and lvl up lowest buildings
or do a cog roll session... still never done one
Shrines are my favorite part of not having doot
I can finally catch up in shrine levels to everyone ahead of me 
BB trying it's best on shrines without much luck xD
Not when you have 8 characters killing Sluggmas

man...
i had 10 chars on suggmas
^ my BB, alone in W4, cooking, trying to lvl up shrines
and just pure misery
but sluggmas is pretty short term
I moved my shrines to W5 while I farmed keys for almost two months
Might toss all my shrines to gmush, perma bonus, wurms also just feels a bit short term grind for keys, and 90% of them would come from the active DK anyways xD
After I get the recipe I'll switch to W1 probably
Suggmas aren't short term when it takes 650m kills for knucks
650m is pretty short term
Mk has nothing to do with kills
Depends on MK, 650M kills for me is nothing due to my MK
What matters is real kills and DR
It took days of 8 people afking.
lol
is W1 the most ideal now?
Might have been longer, my kph wasn't high at all
its really only what 2 chars afking gmush?
Why only 2? ima toss all down there xD
im still working on 1k skills...
Nothing else to afk on, finished DN, finished Kruk, all that's left for me is recipe
Then I'll put everyone on gmush
and im still doing DN
7/10 capes done
so i have no clue where the ideal shrine location is
DN feels like it could be done pretty "quickly" too tbh
idk about u but i keep my shrines in w4 once i figure out what my non lab chars are gonna do, i usually run 6 or 7 people at a time
if i full focused DN yea
im only really getting DN completion through my SB atm
wat in the world is dn bruh
deathnote
oh im smart xd
i only have 1 red skull per world atm im too lazy to start the real grind D: ive been just workin on damage for MK and trying to get trilobyte rock :v
trade is avalaible for pet ?
Not yet
what dmg range should i start focusing my mushroom kills at? or more specifically how many kph should i be lookin for
when you get your 2nd SB, is time he does gmush
I tossed my SB to gmush ever since i had him unlocked, then in div when i hit w5 for a bit, some levels then right back. Never had an issue with money that way.
after divinity should i get right hand of skilling or grind on dk i feel like right hand takes a long time for me
ive taken a week for chopping but i had to do divinity so they stay there for the next few weeks
i dont see the correlation between right hand, dk and divinity
For me what i had:
2nd DK/ES/SB + BM were on lab, that way i always had the sailing/gaming/div talents active and never had to worry about it. BM just there because he's useless. BB stuck cooking or chow stuff. With that others were pretty much only 1st bubo, dk, es, sb. SB on gmush, bubo/dk/es doing other stuff, rotating whatever i needed
So, sb was pretty much always there, it obviously starts helping more and more the higher your dmg is, but to get there having the money multi is nice.
PS: Remember to switch to him whenever so you forge your Bars cap
@tranquil garden
i feel it, i messed up and made 2 bubos, so i usually have one lab one active, or both lab if i need other guys to lvl up. Rn im going for unlocking Kruk for everyone to do the quests up until the dreaded nightmare mode haha
but other than that im usually doing the same, only thing i dont have is my bb cookin, he was my first character and he's gonna be like the 8th to get to kruk haha
i honestly just dont know what to work for rn, equips obv but rn im salt locked so im trying to rank up my refinery .3.
and i got all bubbles unlocked and im upgrading daily, rn im working on sigils but thats such a slow passive
like you can active on DK while skill leveling on mman afk
im doing div rn
but how maby characters can be out of div at a time about
All those tasks doesnt interfere with each other
10 people working on divinity changed to 8 people working in divinity is not that much of a loss for divinity
oh
I have 4 obols that I've created in the last hour and equiped but aren't showing looted in the slab. What do?
Nvm, in game slab is good. Ie slab lagging.
or candy them
candy is less irl hours spent, active ES is the best for โper hourโ efficiency
How much candy needed roughly?
A ton
If candy, theoretical best is vman, but its just difference of dr from talent so doesnt matter much what class you do on
Like 200-300 hrs per statues
The pic might have the rates, i was getting like 50-80 statues/h if candy (w3)
more or less depending on your afk gain
Any recommended cards?
Alright
Damage also helps a tiny bit in active ES for drops
like try 1hr and check the statue you get
Then multiply that with how much you need
Had to make pic from spreadsheet xD
The rate you get statues in afk is pretty much not dependent on rng
tips for nightmare kruuk on zerker?
have enough damage so that it doesnt take like a day. 20b ish should be enough
Like combustion or use wasd+r keys to manual
It can also just auto and eventually kill the moles
Just punch or kick them, their range is small
They have tiny arms and legs

such an unbeleivable hassle
I had 100B and it wasn't enough for just combustion to work
I ran around but it was incredibly annoying. Up to 200B and trying again when I farm keys
why isn't serrated swipe repeating anymore?
Are there recommended obal setups for each toon? The drop rate ones are obvious but not sure about some of the others.
I just slap their skilling obols on each one
2 tries on 0,5% chemical , idk how people get stuck on this
u just click and get it '.'
right?
I see. My mistake was doing 0.1% claims for it 
.01 best claim
those crazy people getting ciz 0% showing there kkkkkk
how many plants do u need minimum to click it?
I dunno
Is there a short beginner post for sailing? Just looking on how to spec my SB in order of importance
The usual, IdleOn Guide sheet has it
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#
Can someone help me with the snake quest? Pizza 1
Shiny speed and meal effect
till what level you put your shiny speed back
I initially did shiny speed 6 > most good bonuses 5 > meal effect 8
Now I'm doing shiny speed to 8 as well
Might even go to 9 tbh
Ty
Did you just rush unlocks with kitsune or something? At one point we both have 5 and I still have 5 now lol
Doesn't even feel like I've had many good attempts at the 6th either. Maybe a few 7%s
Maxed Zerg prayer gives 14.5 or 15
not rly, i was just lucky
the odds arent that low for those evolutions
Me too!! Almost done with beans lol
I just was able to max my boxs for everyone with all the pens from statue farming
Took so long to click those damn pens
Done with beans 
so close to being done with the 1mil statues
Done with beans 
What exactly does done with beans even mean?
200k power is a warmup at beans 
haha ๐ facts
vman make sure to candy all the easy cards
Check pins
Active ES btw or candy?
rofl
I feel that 
Where you active ES?
yup
I candied all the onyx and that trapping statue was kind of a prick ngl
Still gotta do my 100k on everyone too at some point
Where not if ๐
i did wood mushrooms for active ES 100k statues
Yeah i didnt candy that one, just threw everyone on dreadlo
That sounds rough ๐ฎ
definitely wasnt fast yea
I plan to do the same but I need more power statues first
also i did like 140k worth of power statues at the start
Just got back from my trip last night and I was just on clammies the whole time I was out of town
and had 6 chars afking fishing
Still trying to get things caught back up
yea trying to do all this when you have little to no candies is pain
have to active a ton of it
Kinda looking forward to doing 100k on dreadlo so I finally have an excuse to do 1k mining
I think once I get all the power statues I need for everyone I'll swap a bunch of people to goat and just candy every skill to 1k while I get the 100k statues
Might do some gmush while I'm at it
2 more doable skills until skill mastery is done
You can do 1k breeding just farm more colo tickets 
Would be more clicking than myriad 
I mean 100 breeding might be possible, hard to tell. Would require hella tickets though
i prefer watching the eggs turn diff colors
Now I kinda want to try actually pushing for that and see what happens ๐ค
I mean I don't know if it is feasible. I have a decent exp multi and I only get .06% per egg at lvl 77.
So probably like 6000 eggs for lvl 80
.06...
Sounds like I need to stop being lazy with my ticket rolling 
im going to 75 aint no way im doing 100
Dunno how many eggs I get per run though
I might as well do a bunch of W4 colo anyway to get all my keys for 100 troll runs on everyone
True true
I'm gonna have to discount push the breeding exp stamp 

whats your breeding xp multi buddha?
Fck I have to do quests before I sample
What's your stamp lvl?
210
Hmm same as mine, wonder what Im missing
Did you max the BM talent?
Hello people who are good at cooking
I rebooked it recently
What is that sand giant
Doot shroom
Yeah my bm lvl is low
Nope but it can be done and so there it is
I donโt even wanna know how long Iโd have to active afk it
Couple of weeks
Taunting me to finish it
Maybe a month or two if you have bad damage and not enough respawn gear
I'll get around to doing doot shroom sooner or later
Not in any rush though. Still have plenty of goals to push before that
Once I'm done with statues I think I'll get back to it
i love how money just starts to roll in later on
Dunno though cause I want to hit 5k total
Yeah I want 5k as well. Also plan on pushing pearler vial to 10 soon too
WTF!?
To 10?
5k?
Lol
My bad
oh
holy shit i was about to take out my notebook
I should probably take mine past lvl 2 one day
im here at 12x, end gamers at 20x, and this guy at 3000x
Just find the bonuses ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Oh I miss dot
gotta start aiming for lv13 pearl vial at some point
Best bonus finder
Bobjoe pickle vial is where its at
Well w5 made normal vials doable, maybe w6 will make rare vials doable
Yeah I was just thinking that
W5 was such insane power creep that I wouldnt be surprised if level 10 pearler becomes possible
i'd hope w8 would be when rare shit takes off, but would be sick in w6 true
Also going to need a viable way to get 100k hours of candy
In theory our pearler rates are going to just keep scaling with ES over time
Only thing that will hold it back is portal length unfortunately
Surely we get another 100 talent levels for no good reason in W6
Eventually we will have enough damage to use all the hp prayers and still outkill portal
oh lit, just add like 100 more levels on the atom collider lvls
I hope it is just a flat bonus though. Tired of books
I kinda of agree that books can be tedious but at the same time theyre also so fast now that even if it was book level it wont take long to get most of the important stuff up
I just book random shit at this point
Thats true, how fast are your books now?
ES is going to be meh in future worlds, but going to be important to vial the rare mats
You hourly click bubble?
By that time heโs gonna be rockin 50x base dr and getting like 1b mob mats per 5 min or something
I only went to like 300 on the bubble because it doesnt do anything
i hourly clicked that bubble to 90% checkout speed
There was a book timer calc sheet and from 300 to 6000 would shave off like 90 seconds or something from my timer
getting places. just got the trilobite artifact, seems to have done a decent dent
Its actually such a bad bubble lol
My tower is at 121
MK prayer ?
Dang mines 125
uh, which one was that?
I guess my meal is just shit
Its easy to print, and also gets off of nblb theeshold so hourly clicking library bubble was worth for me at least
Stamp?
W4 donโt know name
let me go look
44 but its additive with bubble so it shouldnt do much
Wait I forgot to level the atom collider up lol
Oh my stamp os at 52 and bubble at 1100
Thats probably it
Oh yeah atom collider too
Oh yeah i got it. just one of those extra things i keep forgetting about i guess
Oh mines only at 17/20
Yeah mines just 10
Basically another trilo
Let me go max it and see how fast it gets
I don't even think I have enough to max it
How many atoms do yโall have 
particles or atom levels?
Particles
Particle wise like 3-4m, but i keep using them
I currently have 1.2m but I just got level 20 fluoride a couple days ago and that was like 7.5m

Not much anymore cost me 3.5m to max it
602k remaining
I click too much though so my atom production is kinda bad
never bothered to count but making like million particles a day or so
I can only get like 150-200k a day with doot 
Not really in a rush though because once you max collider bonuses then atoms dont really do anything
Ah man only got my library time down to 4h 21 minutes
ooh more improvement, thanks!
Need to push tower to get sub 4
Whats your meal level?
A soft cap is still a cap
I'm not gonna go full atom mode for a bonus that I cant get anyway
You could hit it 
56 fortune cookie
Just let your grandkids take over if it takes too long 
So only 1 level ahead of me. Yeah I guess it is that atom collider thats holding me back mostly
Though will be 57 soonish
compared to BM sure
Yeah I should do some ladling soon too now that fluoride is done and I did a little more dchef
Also got like 3 more upgrades in the stamp
whats the best way to farm obal frags?
farm obol frags in w2 from crystals usually sandy pots
Hmm what's optimal chef level
but no chip ๐
you can farm efaunt for frags on vman
i see
I think most people stop around 760 but thats only 80% so you can squeeze some more out of it if you want
I recently did 1050 for 85%
Think its like 1600 or something for 90% so not sure I wanna do that
Ah shit mine is seriously underleveled
Only lvl 387 lmao
Honestly thats probably enough to do most of what can be done with cooking really
My 700 levels over you isn't going to amount to a whole lot unfortunately lol
Lol DK is just ridiculous
Probably I've done first page of 60, most Peeps haven't gone too much further than canoli for lvl 60
I stopped at cannoli last time but I should be able to get further now
If I can at least get to riceball I'll be happy to call cooking "done" until lava gives us something else to work with
๐ I literally just did that, I had like 12 extras
What are your current ladle cost?
For like whatever your next meal level up is on time?
they just crawl out of the woodwork 
i got one on my ES today even though i had it filtered
Fek itโs like a clover tidal wave
Lowest level up time is 86 ladles
Oh hmm mines like 4k but I just go in order of what IT says
just if lucky lads can be crafted to some form of stackable lucky lad tokens
the luckiest lads, and its like.. wierdly glued together on popsicle sticks
I'll see how far I can make these ladles go but I definitely need a bit more before I get to rice ball
Might max the cooking stamp after multitool
Yeah I've got that to do and crystal stamp
Then I think I can get 140 cans TD for MSA cooking as well
Also I finish orange soul on my next worship day and I almost have another dreadlo bar vial level too so a bit of speed there too
Oh I always forget about TD I ignore td
I dont do it often but I'm almost caught up to pancake levels
I think 140 cans should be pretty doable and if it is then I'm only missing 160 waka but that shit isnt happening for awhile lol
I still haven't unlocked the final frosty prayer 
Yeah pancake is just built different
He has almost 200% more atom damage than I do
oh active vman for 100k statues is pretty dec
damn
and I'm at 374% lol
thats wild
Best mob for ES? Statue farminf
check pins
ES doesnt really care about mobs the way DK does so if you want 100k statues just anything in W1 will be fine
Pick a vial you're missing or something
Well he does get like 4 times as many crystals as sb, so should be like 20-25k an hr
Im trying to do statue on ES not DK
yea thats roughly what my hourly is looking like right now
I know. ES doesnt really care about maps
If statue w1 on ES, might as well do on woodshrooms for the added bullseye
Oh okay
Its a bad crystal statue farmer anyway
Also is midias touch good? The 1k max HP seems bad for wormholeโs
bad for es
Basically trying to double up kapow stamp through quests
the average dr drop from using that is more than 118% dr that midas gives
Okay thanks
double up thing sometimes makes it like 1/3 efficient in tasks
Can someone explain this math to me? 0.66% per meal level at 531 meal levels should be 350%, not 32%
What's going on here?
0.066 to 531 power, and it applies a percent (x0.01) again due to some lava methods
Its applying percentage twice
Well 0.66^531 gives an astronomically small number, so that can't be it. And 1.66^531 gives an astronomically large number so that can't be it either
1.0066 ^ 531 to be more precise
+0.66% multiplicative bonus per meal level, to determine the percent bonus
I see
But yeah that seems like it should give 3200%
As the math comes out to 32x then
this is the answer
So there's just a random factor of 100 tossed in lol
He is applying percent twice despite it started as a pecent already
This seems like it scales unbelievably quickly though if this is being applied multiplicatively on every level
Its like few T% on mine
Lol
goes hard on really high dish level, but meh if not much
Is this the top priority talent for vman?
3090 levels, 578T%
one of the top yes
Vman maybe a bad cook, but is the best cooking advisor
or you can just do 2nd talent for it and switch it off if not doing BB ladle cooking
I don't get what you mean
if you are low on void talent points
You only need to switch vman talent when using ladles like purple jewel
Just unlocked vman today so just kind of figuring out what's what
But honestly its good qol to keep all bottom row talents on
Decent speed run is enough to max the relevant bottom row ones
(Except the exp one. That one is ass)
My first speed run was 17 portals
been pumping the encourage on this so hard... but the returns are getting kinda bad. last encourage only gave +.2 increase and -.2 decrease zzz
Just man up and press gamba at that point
XD im busy playing poe recently so i am ok waiting some more days on this.. maybe at 25%
Whats worse than resetting is resetting after spending 100 encouragements
nahhhh i can see your point, but for me, i would regret not having spent that encouragement
just choose the option that is least damaging to your mental health
what happens to encouragements if u fail but dont reset? do u lose encouragement or keep it?
it keeps until you succeed or reset on that tier
oh ok thanks
Not entirely sure what happens if you reset and come back to the same one again
im half way to snail a couple more days..
if it kept the encouragement after deleveling thatd be too op hahaha
Since encouragement is not permanent buffs, makes it less viable sadly
It would be more strategic decision if it was permanent
Iโd assume the opposite
As of now its like choose the poison that you want to die in
oh why do u think so?
ES's polytheism at lv0 doesn't do anything right
should i save up for the 100% or risk the low % chances?
Damn then I need to dedicate 10 more points just to afk overnight
Any good tips to get my void walker able to kill katlekruk
if the 100 shows i leave it personally.. even if i know itll take a minute
Save if you can get nearly 10mil in what you consider a reasonable amount of time.
Gamble if you believe you can get it on the lower percentages ( and if you have a decent bubble so you donโt lose points)
doesnt matter much with the expected cost for doing either way
its more of a choice what doesnt hurt your feeling
Iโd say alchemy and mega crits but Iโm sure those further ahead of me will say otherwise
Random note but dont buy more of those rings, always go for the emp opal ones
If you're dmg is that low, you will get more dmg once u get your W5 alchemy unlocked
Yeha they are old
I just unlocked 6th god with 5%
I have avg 300-600m on everyone else just void walker is a bitch
being able to port vman to farthest level is just amazing.. my little Vman is about to pull some huge xp from moles lol
Its normal for vman to be a bunch less, also keep in mind he does like 4x Autoattacks at once.
But still, itll come from w5 bubbles
If anything my Vman is maxing 25 mil and is just unable to out damage the heals he gets
Sucks that I'm gated cause he is my 6th character and I was able to make the boots for most people but anything else I need him to kill katlekruk
Rushing divine gear itself is a bit meh imo
Other priorities that can let you do that easier
And divine gear isnt always better than magma
Farming statues was great..
yup, got ~8k on my first day alone while active DK with bronze ones filtered out xD
unlocking eldirtch with about 24 more hours of afk...
Pricey statues
https://i.imgur.com/jlcFrGA.png
I should really do Lustr and Starfire cards.. less statues but to i guess get it 5*
oh yea w3 statues is miserable
Oh thats Mining to get alts to 100k
BB getting nearly twice the amount xD
https://i.imgur.com/DDvnUbu.png
big pick works on statues due to being effective tool swing increase modifier
Ah nice
Does that also affect the card rate at all?
should too, that is why you got more cards for your bb
oh sorry, bb one was on starfire
During active big pick is just a single swing per use. But for afk lava translates that to number of swing times i suppose
yeah it makes it so cooking still takes a bit to ramp up intially, but it's so nice later on bc you get 3 lvls on a meal a day basically
What do you mean get them to 100k, you meant level maybe?
Btw guys whats your crystal chance?
he means 100k statues
Mine is 1 in27
But why? Doesnt he only need 20k for opal and thats it?
there is quest after to collect 100k statues
But the second quest needs power statues not lumberbob right?
dayum rich boy throwing around 24hrs
Whatโre some of the first things you do when entering w5 as a doot owner? Almost there and just wanna rough guide to follow! Tia
Oh i see thanks ๐
100k for if you want the kachow statues
If you only care for the onyx, dont have to worry too much
My plan is to get every char onto the 100k then let them complete it in the background over however long it takes
but the crit damage gains
did any1 deposit kachow yet? if so how much gains did u get?
well it dubble my crit damge
but my kachow status lvl is relly low :/ working on getting status from the rest of my amy XD
finally, a certifed "pretty good" captain
DR and crystal spawn are about the only thing you can do besides orb levels
well my lvl of it.. is 22 so from around 16% to around 35% XD
thats not very much
go to gelatinous cubes, done bother farming for the pearls AND statues at the same time
probably faster to DK at cubes, then ES at clammies than it is to just DK clammies, if u want both pearls and statues

That sounds like no choc chip
but the big brain smart move is not deposit kachows yet, but wait for another diamond statue update that further increases the deposit bonus 

What's the best map for cranium cooking?
like in w7-w8, very possible
Its only been few months since the previous statue related upgrade via vman
so close yet so far
honestly, getting us to grrind out all the statues is already really good for our account progression
time for ES on that CON

1mil done
i candied nuttos and walking sticks for eclipse
not enough
gonna finish rest on ES
need divine scarf before i hard commit to candies
I'm coming for you >:)
https://i.imgur.com/GyWOsGk.png

Whats ur statue alch bubble at?
i left it at 250
also mind screeny all your toolbox statue lvls?
ill probably farm out some more cons statues
but trapping/worship statues arent worth it imo
even con would be pretty hard
400 crit dmg is like double megacrit ehh?
yea its not easy but at the current conversions i can at least get it up to 75-100ish without much farming
no clue ngl
Setting up these alts is the most annoying part about candy..
3 card sets to create :/
yup...
I just used more candy in place of less setup
time to get vman to 450 so i can finally wear the trophy on it
Need to do the same ๐ฎ
426 
You going to active him?
It's so damn slow
bb was actually worse getting him to 450 than vman
Mhmm, think i should really active bubo for like a week and get that xD
With 50x class exp, you can even aim for family lv5000
Killroy reset gem cost is like nothing since now we can farm gems even more easy with boss keys
Once you got the full gem shop and backups for w6 and the next update thatll give a new gem rota since it's been a hot minute. yup ๐
i got pretty lucky with killroy this week
2x mage stages and bubo got 1k+ kills on both
idk if thats even that high or not
2 Mages ๐ฎ
I got my first 1k on DK (non mage) recently
https://i.imgur.com/jqQzzcp.png
Was pots xD
I hate when killroy is in a map with catching bugs, they be like โbut I must catch themโ
Not pots, gmush* woups
oh man DK on gmush sounds nice
Not sure who you mean, but mine is only 76
not high enough
I havnt touched my stamps in a bit.. xD
So much green ๐
Need to make space on my vman, as soon as im done with these statues
At least im at 87% gilded already
But could definetely get that higher pretty easily
need more gilded...
What's gilded
Rift unlock, for every 100 stamp levels (top left) you have 1% chance to get a gilded a day. Which is a 95% discount token
Ohhh okay
So Herus at 9600 stamp level has a 96% a day to get a 95% discount
And it works with the Atom discount that caps at 90%,
need another 90% multiplicative discount
oh lvling my vman might not be that bad
actual cost is only a few k though?
well yeh but thats without discounts..
But that's how you do it, with gilded stamp and atom if you cant multitool anymore?
Alternatively golden food stamp ig
Confused, where/what is this ? ๐ฎ
Oh just saw it, ive just done it with my calcs xD
i didnt have any exp cards on
Which island next?
How so?
Comes down to needs
Because none of the rewards on fractral would affect me really?
Ight imma do fishing thanks!
active cards are multi and huge
Just comes down to also needs/helpfulness
got snelbie?
thats some high af power
Is your kitchen underleveled or something?
For pet chance unlocks
Or even the carrot/cake meta should help?
Just as usual, use the guide sheet
but with that power, you're already on the higher end of power for arena
If you got mimic you can easily reach 75 or even 100 if youre lucky
always gotta sort the food by time, btw, else it wont really give as much info in perspective
Use the guide sheet above..
Yeh just use the rng combo in the guide
I made it to 120 with 4 slots and that combo
And even lower power
You dont need snelbie
i gave in and candied the rest of my statues 
Snelbie just makes it super easy
in exchange for time
Just finished my last candy for these ๐
https://i.imgur.com/dil39bz.png
nice
nice
at least i think have to check xD
ffs forgot to check anvils again
got distracted with the pet chat
i think i need way more drop to do the ES ones, i think im making like 100/hr on the accuracy ones right now
100ish/h is normal for bullseye sadly
oof
you doing nuttos, right?
i thought the note about nuttos was for candy, is it bettter for active?
Active is often around 8-12x better +/- variables
I was getting around 10x candy
You active at wood mush
yeah thats what im doin, active at wmush and doing 100 ish/hr active
that im guessing is low then if 100hr is what people think is their candy rate
yup. 100/h active on es is low
what kind of drop rate do yall have generally?
18.5x or something
10.1 is kinda ouch, but think im only at like 11.75 with dk having midas on
oh yeah, im way early then
yeh was 18.5x DR with 2.6t dmg, wormhole going to 170s
hmmm. i get to 160 ish on my wormhole, but yeah, my drop is abysmal
wow iโm not looking forward to that farm
gonna afk my whole platoon there for a while
i need a boatload more dmg i think too, but yeah, drop ill have to figure out
no worries. gotta start the grind some where, like with doot
think the closest thing i can get will be the divine stuff with drop%, otherwise just have to wait i think
wow wtf...
i accidentally put woodular circles on filter
guess all those statues, rip no circles xD
With maoi head do i need world shrines from the lab?
Yes, they do different things
Oops overshot the mark ๐
need to spike my sampling i think, i cant remotely spend my collider atoms per day before reset, but unsure thats as much of a priority as other things
You get the bonus from shrines anywhere, but shrine exp still needs to be in same world (if using lab node)
If your active grinding w1-2, 4-5 on dk thats normal ๐
And its not like avoiding world tour gets you a better lab position
going for nm kruk hope it doesnt take 5ever XD
I mean they're chilling near the divinty shrine, just curious if the node was still needed with the artifact
see you in 30 mins
without world tour, shine exp only counts for afk of that map
With lab, it counts any afk of same world
Moai only applies to the bonus effect of the shrine
i do got 286% kachow now
Just made it to w5 how many days should I leave everyone on divinity?
yea hes got that juiced cdmg now
Thnx
wow, snapshotting card chance made 1h candy go from 110 cards to 163 xD
So like 2 weeks?
Main goal is unlocking goat god. God 5.
That way you get both lab + div progress.
Check pin
for some info
Oh there's a pin? Thanks
The main thing is, stick all on lab except rotate out whomever you active with a purpose. perfect time to backtrack stuff
Just wrote some backtrack stuff here:
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message
There's probably a lot more, but just to give some basic ideas
Oh I see I see
I'll check on them in a day or two I'm close to getting vman so I also wanna do that
Thats fine, main thing to remember for early div as well is that if you are getting 1xp/h that means, do not login at 58 or 59min else the whole hour is wasted kinda thing
Main helpful thing with divinity early on will be 2nd god, bear, as you can link all your alts to it so your active will benefit from lab bonuses while out.
Speaking of lab I really gotta do lab. I only unlocked the first slot for all of em except for one and then never touched it again
Yeh so that'll be ideal when you get god 5, goat. it will allow you to be inside lab for xp while at the same time being active on divinity and getting div xp/pts
lab/div i need to fix for sure, same
very much looking forward to doot trivilizing some of that, but alas
goat still need actual ppl in lab to work
W6 will probably add a hub in town that acts as lab/div/new skill
need to also remember to burn all my water before swapping god stuff, sigh, just lost like 1k of all my waters because of diconnect
But considering goat god exists, w4 may still continue to be the hub town
What is the optimal lvl for the divine orb
267, 300, 310
Thank you
267 if with mana PO box maxed, 300 if without
not sure about 310
267 for most people who cant get to 310+.
300 if you can remove mana box.
310+ is for โjust get long enough duration to offset the time loss from overlapโ
Once more book levels are added like say 350, its just max it
Oh ok nice
250 gems to remove mana PO box btw from gemshop purchase
Why would you remove mana box?
for longer orb duration
longer orb duration without CD overlap
Longer recast so game cant recast on its own to overlap
CD effectively caps your duration in a sense
the game is like made to recast โwhen current orb duration is like 5 sec or lessโ
ffs using 100x+ 1h candy per eclipse is annoying af xD
How many kph are you at?
270-290 is like the danger zone where the overlap time loss is greater than the seconds earned for raising talent levels
Getting to the slower maps on w2 at, 9.3m (moonmoon)
Oh ok sheesh thatโs still Amazing
Eesh, TD bosses could really do with a 90% nerf to total hp
In other words, thats a 17.4m gmush rate
Then at talent level 300 it kind of evens out the time loss and time gained, and around 310+ it starts to become net positive again
For real, the bosses arnt even the hard thing.. just a stupid time gate to make you wait 1-2h..
i need to work on TD something fierce ....
bruh i got it to 25% and i realized i didnt ahve the achievement finished to the right spot
lol rip
is sandcastle still the go to w2 crystal farm spot?
Hasnt been the go 2 for a long time
so 13 days to get trimmed construction unlocked, so not really a worthwhile goal atm, need.... an unknown amount of time to get proper tower lvls to survive w121 for rushogen, which i think is my next big thing to help me with sampling
Like that was pre DK/ES era
trying to think of what other goal makes sense right now
Snelbies are misinformation too
i also totally didnt set up my cards or starsigns or chips
ffs just made 4 purple luck obols and realized they dont go to hexagon after 
They are actually weaker than sand pots even for statues/obols
sand pots and tysons or some such yeah?
Tysons for statues/obols, sand pots for total value including glass shards
with 70b it took me like 7 minutes
The wide map layout of snelbies wastes time potentially running left and right, causing very inconsistent orb kills, resulting in a worse average than sand pots
What's is the need for glass shards?
im doing tysons now
stamp
carry cap stamp
Gotcha
Glass shards effectively are โmax stamp levelsโ
And you cant have enough of them unless you found a way to 1050m stack them in a day
Did you guys deposit your 10k Kachow statues, or save?
What happened to tips and tricks section?
save till you got all at onyx first
and if you can get 100% bonus on the vial as well then do that as well first, then your statues are worth x7 as much
my hunter taking longer to kill kruk than my vman 
Deposit kapows in small batches of 1 lv per deposit to maximize the application of startue exp bubble
When statues level up multiple levels at once, it skips applying startue exp for those in-between levels
Nothing, still there
This is easier said than done unless you break out a spreadsheet !
Just dont deposit all at once
For practicality of typing numbers, i just went like 11, 22, 33 โฆ.. 1111, 2222, 3333 and so on
Time to deposit ^
https://i.imgur.com/1gKp73T.png
Checking if im divinity 3 yet in about 2h ๐
How do I get the Slab to recognize all the things I already own... like Storage chests, bags, etc.?
Cant 
unless its an item in storage/inventory that u can drop and pickup
but certain quest rewards, if u did it on all 10 classes = rip and wait for 11th class
Yeah I was already past all that on all chars when Slab came out
Been trying to get it to see my stuff since
Wish we could delete a char and start over
This is the only game like this where once you start a char it is locked for life... no restarts
I mean, new google account ig
I have been playing since this game came out... if I had to start over I would just delete it. Lol
The slab system could surely be better
It should be introduced early into the game properly
there are ways to farm the old stuff, just not enough was "fixed" when they said they fixed it
The issue with needing to drop/pick up and item to have it recognised needs to be fixed 100%
i can see if the code wasn't there in the first place, it'd be hard to fix it, though on premise i agree totally
like, it just didn't know to record it in the past
But I think quest items got added to slab retroactively?
and other stuff
such as: the hat you start out with got deleted by a lot of players before slab came out, now it's on the slab and we deleted it already and have no new character slots to get a new hat
So some stuff still missing
yes you can farm the hat but like 1 in a gazillion or whatever for 1 slab item that everone gets for free now
Had is easy to grind
Just did eclipse and got like 9-12ish of those (e.g. red cap one, not the arcade in that pic)
is the only reason that people are doing the onyx statues quest on all their characters for the kachow statues from the reward? Or are there other bonuses to doing it multiple times that justify doing it ASAP, before turning in other statues?
Basically, once I've done it on one character, am I good? Can I just come back and do the kachow statues at a later date?
You want all onyx for the stacking multiplier
for each onyx statue unlocked, each statue deposited is worth a lot more
Yeah, so you give 20k of each statue once.
(1 statue = 7 statues when having 100% snakeskin vial and all onyx)
But people are farming 200k power statues. that's only for the kachow stamps, right? I can do that later?
ah, got it. so need a minimum of 40k power statues.
the rest I can do when I have higher drop rates.
Thing is you hoard all those statues before depositing them (wait until all onyx) to maximize gain
https://i.imgur.com/wGZ7ZWk.png
And then for Kachow, you do slow deposits.
To maximize your gain from the yellow bubble for onyx
It's going to take me a week of active farming to hit the 20k, because my DR is capped at 5.00 at the moment. So I'd rather leave that for later
and you only deposit one level at a time, I heard.
Here's a rough example Vid on how you deposit the Kachow Statues:
Usually I would do the amounts per tab. Amounts will change the higher the level.
But you try and maximize your gain from yellow alch bubble that gives % onto next level, if you deposit multiple levels at once, e.g. 10 levels, the levels in between won't get the benefit of that statue progress skip each level.
Vid for deposit starts at 25 seconds.
If it takes you a week for 20k, it's probably barely worth doing..
Especially if your DR is 5x now, that means you're lacking on other content, like obols probably
but we going to have 80k to deposit.... its going to be so slow haha
Nawh, it goes fast
at least at first, will pick up pace a lot later
First inventory stacks for me were 5's, then 22's now 44s, already at 88s now
I do double/triple digits so i can spam the same key on numbpad easier like 9 9 enter mouseclick
i didnt know the yellow bubble effect didnt take place if you skip levels though, i feel like i wasted a lot of levels not doing it
Thats the whole point of slow deposit especially for limited obtainable statue kachow
so should I just continue to hoard all the statues until some time in the future?
woups, wrong click btw
what level did you get your yellow bubble to before starting. i am at 246 atm. not sure if i should bother more or just go for it, since i will be done with onyx statues soon
Idk, if it takes you 1 week for 20k powers, you probably arnt getting much at all anywhere anyways xD
certain random things that are very specific like bullseye in w1 tree, fishing from w2 catching or w3 statues those are all the slowest and most annoying, could definetely hoard those
But this:
1h DK Beans, 1/29 crystal, 18.5x DR:
https://i.imgur.com/aBQTxhD.png
In 1 hour, so, you get some of that stuff pretty fast later on
that's crazy
around 530ish or whatever 22.5% is, 25% is like 900+ way too high
I'm still relying a lot on the <5.00 chips at the moment.
Yeh, so your focus is all wrong
Do you even have 4* crystal chance cards?
I have a full set of pop obols, half of which are at silver.
Let alone drop rate cards, or obols
oh yea, at 246 i am getting 20.1% im not going to more then double my bubble just for 2.4% haha
yeah, should probably work on the cards first...
i have genies at 3 stars, and poop at 2.
yeh, 20% is a good stopping point
but I do have the chocolate chip
Even worse if you have choco chip and it would take you a whole week for 20k powers ๐
Seriously, don't focus on onyx and stuff yet. Go focus on getting DR and stuff
Pop obols, dice obols, cards. all that kinda stuff
Just think, waste 1 week on powers, and then what? what did it do for you really? barely anything yet.
I'll do that! Thanks for the advice. Where does most of the DR come from though? Is it chip/card doublers?
Because adding a few % of drop rate by going from bronze to silver doesn't feel like it's going to boost me much.
Obols are a bit over 3x in total
And I've already maxed the drop rate post office box.
Cards with doublers is another ~3x or something
Completion. ๐
1 statue of 25?ish isnt really completion
they're not on the calendar for a while though. /sadface.
True!
I'm actually getting the other statues from crystals at double the rate. Power statues just drop slow.
But yeah, still a lot of active time.
I'll focus on other stuff for now then.
Thanks!
true too, youd have 7 statues once u have the powers
But a week is just not worth it ๐
best map for status farming? is it a flat one and then max crystal ?
on other then es and dk XD
check the pins
I got this first try i just want to know if everyone gets it at there first time
Small adjustment
The magical fruit
No youโre lucky
Ohh okay but it's not that it's that good of a Cape
yeah the trophy is huge tho
though that would suck for him if he got that cape before accepting the quest
fuck lol
139
And bonus?
1,35
what do u need to know? XD
if u want to know the level for 1.4 its roughly 240
Highest bonus from Big P in this chat
Aight, what about your divinity lvl
If I align my ES with goat god and bear god with talent, am I going to still get div xp as if I was in the lab?
no
why cant i start the next round
107
Its because you use midas probably
That makes u need to wait for the ores and fishing longer
really? but i just did w3 and w4 no problem
Only w2
ok ill try without midas
I noticed the Seasalt island fishing AFK XP/HR showing higher that what you actually get when using time candy. Anyone else experience this?
still not working without midas
U will still need to wait for about 2-4 seconds so you can press next round even without midas
there's still some slowness without midas, but it's not as bad
bascally the gathering nodes count as mobs
the next wave won't appear until they despawn
to despawn, they have slowly ticking down invisible health
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
Midas increases that health - thus your issue
This right?
if your orb is 300 you can still fit in 2 runs per orb
Anyone have recommend?
trickz wrote something about that in pins
but tldr divine trophy heavily skews which one is better for you
Ill check it thanks
hey guys what's the fastest way to collect power statues?
DK built for crystals/DR at beans
How to unlock the green bits
Grab a tom of bits
pet damage even make sence after i close 200 round arena, and i know that im easy open all spice places?
Faster spice generation
๐ like always
Other than that. The first storage alot for the beastmastee talent
? i thought that for collect spice need high power lvl on pet not it actual damage
Does any catching drop the same rate of oceanman statue in w2? Cause in the pins, it said any catching
oh yeah like always it's a W4 quest but it's pinned in w5 chat and like always every single question always it's in the pins
yeah right buddy
excuse me
Its like the 10th time today
Did you even check the pins before you wrote your question ?
I checked your mom
How original
Mad huh
Always
it's as if you are OBLIGED to answer the same question 10 20 30 times
or respond to it in any way
Its pinned in w4 chat too tho
ah ok then here's a similar question then
what's the fastest way to farm health statue?
Where to farm power statues
is this question pinned?


