lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[fast verge]

Where is the best place to farm dice obals?

[viral star]

why would you want to turn them off?

[clear quartz]

doing some old quests, and the multifish thing is screwing me. also the gift buble specifically is obnoxious

[viral star]

ahh true i guess

!merit54

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[granite grove]

sheepie gift bubble is occassional free gems, candies, and kachow statues tho

[clear quartz]

i suppose

[hollow wasp]

does BB get stronger the more he chows? he got like 10m dmg from chowing W1 lol

[granite grove]

zow only, chow has nothing to do with dmg

odds are you just got some unrelated upgrades that increase dmg

[hollow wasp]

what is zow again

[granite grove]

100k kill from barb

[hollow wasp]

oh ye

thats it

i did from 1 kill to 1m kills on my bb

in entire w1

[granite grove]

then its zow that increases dmg, not chow

[hollow wasp]

i see

chowing also good for DNA for pets

[granite grove]

altho would be nice if there is super zow, inb4 lava makes it 1b per monster but increases dmg by 1.01^(monster count)

[hollow wasp]

hmm

i do it for that rn

i hope its worth it

i skipped wood mushrooms. 28k afk/h

[tacit tulip]

super chowing was bad enough thanks 😄

[stiff prairie]

Closest to super zow is eclipse skulls at 1b

[tacit tulip]

with rift done I guess it's time to super chow Dr D

Then just lone nutto? I aint doing doot

[hollow wasp]

chowing W1 and W2 got my BB from 15m dmg to 28m dmg

[tacit tulip]

your gains will slow down as you zow the rest

as you're increasing an existing buff instead of getting a new one

[hollow wasp]

but i need it anyway

dont i

[tacit tulip]

Yup

[hollow wasp]

its not to bad

i used 2h candy in W3 now

to get 100k kills on all mobs

[teal lynx]

Just wait till you need to super chow. 100m kills on every single mob

[hollow wasp]

:<

[teal lynx]

All for cooking speed

[clear quartz]

i need to start doing that

[tacit tulip]

it makes for some nice deathnote gains when you do it tho

[hollow wasp]

getting 100k kills on all W1 W2 and W3 mobs got my BB from 15.5m dmg to 33.5m dmg

[teal lynx]

Might be worth to also upgrade zow via Talent Books. I am not sure what the Threshholds are for +% dmg on that talent tho

[hollow wasp]

have it like that rn

[tacit tulip]

every 33 levels

So next buff at 165

[hollow wasp]

but im confused

im not sure if i had 75laddles/day before chowing

i have 37 now.

maybe it was 35

[teal lynx]

Are u on the right preset?

[hollow wasp]

ye

[teal lynx]

Cooking Shoes, Rings, Cards, Starsigns, Prayers

[hollow wasp]

44laddles day. i might had 35 before

not sure

i dont have prayer for that

also i think i dsont have starsign

[teal lynx]

Green Prayer

[hollow wasp]

oh

i have that

[teal lynx]

Starsigns are just skill afk gain rate

[hollow wasp]

46/d

i think iwas on 35 before

not sure but i think it was this

only got 1cooking ring, should farm a second

[tacit tulip]

the cooking stamp is a massive source of ladles if you've not dumped that yet

[hollow wasp]

i did a bit

[tacit tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[hollow wasp]

xd

[tacit tulip]

I still need to do more

[hollow wasp]

😄

[tacit tulip]

still very sad that the game ate all my 1b stacks

[quasi wind]

Rando island worth or nah?

[old portal]

what class to use for HH? and anyone running?

[old portal]

this gets expensive real fast

[tacit tulip]

DK is the best general use dungeon characer

[clear quartz]

same, need moar

although now im just cash poor, most things arent mats gated at least not at this moment

[pearl cedar]

You turned on collider?

[tacit tulip]

I went on holiday last week

Took my laptop with me

Turns out, collider settings are set per device

So when I logged in on my laptop - ate every 1b stack down to 15m

[winged quartz]

guys, the only foods easy and worth it crafting to green stack are the first two bullets right? I mean, they don't use other foods hard to gs or a massive amount of resource like the w5 bullet. Also, can u green stack Bucket of slush?

[tacit tulip]

you can gstack peanuts too

[winged quartz]

the problem i see with peanuts is that uses hot dog

i mean, 20mi hot dog...

uh

painful to get

[tacit tulip]

You'll be spending a few months with DK at beans at any rate

I did like a week and have 10m

[clear quartz]

gulpin glizzies

[tropic kiln]

I forgot about mob drop hotdogs

Thank god we dont need to gett from the vendor

[winged quartz]

what is the point on playing DK at beans? statues?

[clear quartz]

i should go back to 🅱️eans for a bit after w2, get ES statue quest goin

[tropic kiln]

Y

[pearl cedar]

Statues and peanuts

[winged quartz]

hmm

[tacit tulip]

Bean farms are kinda on hold until onyxing all the statues at any rate

[old portal]

should i use my statues on vman now? i have 20k of beans statues

[dense eagle]

Make them golden peanut

[tacit tulip]

nice thing about the statue farmw as the card gains, forced me to ruby these

[winged quartz]

xd

[clear quartz]

mmmm ruby. still a long time before i can thinka bout getting that unlocked

really hoping today and tomorrow (assuming theres still one for the 28th) set of coolers gets me the rest of the way to blueberry ruby range

[tacit tulip]

If you're not, DK is the path to maxing those cards

Build up orb -> Use shells -> Claim cards

[old portal]

i sturggled with 15b damage

[clear quartz]

i think ill still be short, i only get to like 300 ish orbcount

so like 200 cards maybe for spamming them all at 300 or so and currently at 1k ish

[prisma drift]

15B I’ve heard 60B for the 40’s mega mob rift

[old portal]

iam testing rn with 50b+ damage on my bubo

[tacit tulip]

you need about 120b for the ES portal mission

+good talent levels

I did it with poor talent levels - about 200B damage

[prisma drift]

I wouldn’t know as I just super chowed rift

And now my damage is like 3-500B

So I can’t test

[tacit tulip]

I'm very much enjoying the (20k plunder) in your name x3

[winged quartz]

welp someone not gonna progress on rift for a long time (me :<)

[prisma drift]

Lava made me stop 😦

Now I just active DK

[clear quartz]

i got to the vials thing so i have the construct and ruby so a logn time as well

[tacit tulip]

I'll probably go back to plunder farm once I have all statues onyx

[prisma drift]

I wanna get my w1 statues to 200 at least

[vale wadi]

where drop the most statues per hour?

[clear quartz]

i kinda wanna do it more, but afking sb is enjoyable

[prisma drift]

Beans on DK

[tacit tulip]

w1: Beans
w2: Sandy pots
w3: Bloodbones
w4: Clammies
w5: Wurms

[clear quartz]

think im at 75k or some such

[prisma drift]

Why farm bloodbones?

Does w3 have any special statues?

[tacit tulip]

you don't really need to rn

but that's the best map for it technically 😛

[vale wadi]

Got quest for 100k statues now so Got something to do:P

[tacit tulip]

the w3 statues are mob specific

[prisma drift]

Oh okay I was just making sure because I’m only missing world 3 and bullseye onyx

[tacit tulip]

You generally do bloodbones to greenstack and get pens

[prisma drift]

Been working on bullseye

[prisma drift]

Es focus if you don’t wanna candy

Im candying w3 statues

Only doing es on bullseye for the circles

I’ll never have to grind them again for minibosses

[clear quartz]

i ought to spend my biggie spawns

[tacit tulip]

honestly surprised at how fast deathnote has gone up farming these

started at 0

[prisma drift]

I already eclipsed w1

[clear quartz]

unsure why i hoard them

[prisma drift]

So no gains for me there

[tacit tulip]

mmhm I only have 4 eclipse rn

It's on my list of things to do after super chow

(Gmush, beans, frogs, Wurms)

[prisma drift]

I should super chow

I have rift done but only 5 total

And 3 of them are from w5

[old portal]

best char to farm ntroll cards?

[prisma drift]

Vman

All boss cards are vman

[clear quartz]

i should do someof those too at some point, bossu cards are kinda neglected

[fallow aurora]

is there a best to get?

[winged quartz]

in this bit of time i saw u guys talking i started to get crazy with so many things i have to do rn

[tacit tulip]

glad we could assist with an existential crisis

[little harbor]

what do you do with garbage key chains? cant vendor, wondering uif they do somehting

[old portal]

does prayer effect rift mobs hp?

[winged quartz]

does these have a max level like the p2w tab upgrades?

[fallow aurora]

I just throw them on the ground, but I know theres 1 keychain used to craft something

[little harbor]

also, why cant i buy keychains? been like this for a few weeks?

[weary hinge]

consume em

click n hold

[woeful lantern]

you need to click and hold the things

[rustic garnet]

not bad

[winged quartz]

bobgoldpickle ones, used to craft dawn stopwatch

[unreal fox]

i think lava should increase chance for this book

[clear quartz]

since my orb count is so low, should i jsut hoard my coolers i guess and do those when im getting like 500+ orb on the regular?

errr i guess the shells not the coolers, but yeah

[errant sluice]

does aynone know a video of vman vs kattlecruk? i just wanna see it once before i do it

[tacit tulip]

there's definitely at least one posted but I dunno where it is

[vale wadi]

do you guys have maxed your sigils?

[sick sentinel]

It was by trickz i can find it

[vale wadi]

i m in last row, but not all gold yet, goes so slow

[errant sluice]

thank you 🙂

[sick sentinel]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[surreal oxide]

whats best way to farm power statues for the new quest?

[placid mural]

finally atomized!

[surreal oxide]

if i dont have 12+ DR should i just go ES on beans or something?

[tacit tulip]

nah DK will still be best

[surreal oxide]

ah ok ty

[gilded salmon]

Where is the best map to active ES for the w3 statues?

[winged quartz]

btw, those statues are better farmed with ES right?

[tacit tulip]

the w3 ones are yeah

and the one in w1 tree

[errant sluice]

damn 88b i gotta do it with 60

[tacit tulip]

it's fine - just takes longer. Did mine with 50

[weary hinge]

isnt nuttos better

[signal osprey]

Nuttos is better if using candy

[sick sentinel]

Might take slightly longer but not too bad, if u can, max book your multi punch talents

[weary hinge]

oh

[clear quartz]

guess thats why things are taking so long lol, sub 12 dr and 71 crystal chance, woops

[signal osprey]

Also helps to think that statue farming is endgame anyway so you gotta do it sooner or later

[winged quartz]

better than me farming with shaman 9.5dr xd

[signal osprey]

Like end gamers do DK at beans all day even before the update

[surreal oxide]

where can i see my crystal chance

[winged quartz]

idleonefficiency?

[clear quartz]

on the player tab on ie under random stats, specifically

[misty leaf]

where best for bubo to farm statues?

clammies have low statue rate tho, was thinking somewhere w1 would be better

[winged quartz]

I was farming at nuttos/sand Castle/didn't farm w3 yet/flomb

with my bubo

[misty leaf]

yes, but w1 crystals drop more statues than w4... is nuttos best density?

[signal osprey]

On bubo the OG statue map was sticks

[errant sluice]

pushed to 76b rn ill try

[winged quartz]

welp, nuttos only have 3 platforms and high mob density, so i farmed the 20k pretty fast

[signal osprey]

But DK beans is about a million times better

[misty leaf]

already did DK, now getting for pow

[misty leaf]

ill try this out

[winged quartz]

I used bubo cus my dk kinda sucks with skill levels and other stuffs

i don't see a reason not to use dk if your are well builded

[misty leaf]

completing this on all chars for statue rewards

[tacit tulip]

on the note of the kachow statues

you're meant to deposit slowly in such a way that you don't lose the bonus progress for each tier right?

[winged quartz]

and only use kachow when u have everything unlocked

[bleak gust]

after i hit w5 should i immediately yeet my characters out of lab and into divinity

[tacit tulip]

in this case, does the bonus statues from onyx apply before or after the statue doubler from vials? 😄

that's what I mean - my question came after haha

[bleak gust]

does this include my pusher and my mman

mman is skilling for right hand

[grizzled elk]

got doot?

[bleak gust]

no

so should i put pusher and mman in div?

[grizzled elk]

yeah until you unlock bear god I think

[bleak gust]

alright

[tacit tulip]

guess I need to finish a few more vials before depositing my kachow

Vman off to lab jail

[errant sluice]

well only took 6 minutes

idk why it took him 14 minutes with more dmg

[clear quartz]

did a sampling run with vman earlier, forgot something it seems when grabbing some samples unless it is to be expected that coconuts would sample that much better than snek

i would think snake would sample better for several reasons, but alas.oh wait, i bet i did that before i got the respawn buff

[grizzled elk]

make sure you take your sample when the multikill talent is on

second vman talent

[clear quartz]

yeah, did that. i think i did the sanke one before killing any bosses, all i can figure. coconut was a few days ago too, so very possible i forgot to equip something i suppose

[amber dagger]

How do you check your giant mush cycle

[grizzled elk]

IT/IE

dashboard on either

[amber dagger]

Wym

[grizzled elk]

https://idleontoolbox.com/dashboard

[exotic juniper]

is snelbie best for w2 statue farming?

[stuck pasture]

I’m at sand castles, but would like to know too. And is it worth staying here or jumping to somewhere in W3 such as Bbones?

[tacit tulip]

w3 doesn't have any statues that are unique to crystals so if the onyxes are your goal, don't go w3

[signal osprey]

Sand pots is the go to for W2 crystals

[stuck pasture]

So stay here for a while? I don’t seem to be making much progress on any I’m missing

[signal osprey]

Its only gonna get worse in later worlds though

[stuck pasture]

Yeah thought so

[signal osprey]

And you gotta finish all onyx sooner or later

Might as well stick it out

[tacit tulip]

those are the ones you'll get in w2

[warped grail]

im doing the same, getting the 20k of health

before going w2

[signal osprey]

Yeah W5 is a slow one for sure

[empty oracle]

Heya peeps

[brisk bane]

Nothing is worse than W3 tho

[empty oracle]

Sorry to interrupt but
Was wondering if ranking up salts is a good thing

[brisk bane]

Red and green should always rank up

The other ones there is a chart somewhere that shows what level you should get them

[empty oracle]

Mhm
But each rank gives worse rates correct?

[grizzled elk]

"worse" cost ratio, faster gain

[tacit tulip]

technically yes, but time is an important statistic to account for

you also get better means to earn more resources over time

[stuck pasture]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

Oops sorry meant for the image

Always go for highest red or green when you hit a new milestone level up the rest

[empty oracle]

Ohh
Right
You get more salt per rotation

Didn't think about that sorry 😅

Thanks a lot for pointing that out

Also thanks a lot for the pic ❤️

[grizzled elk]

once you hit the power cap, time to rank up starts going down right?

[signal osprey]

Yeah. Power caps at 1m but salt per cycle never caps

[stuck pasture]

My green is lagging way behind compared to red, no idea why 😅

[signal osprey]

The furthest endgamers currently get a red salt rank every day even without omni procs

[tacit tulip]

The first three salts have a faster rotation than the second three

[grizzled elk]

I fucked up and my blue is wayyy ahead of production lol

[signal osprey]

You really can't fuck up though because that sheet isn't efficiency its just QoL

No one in endgame even uses it

You just level all salts all the time

[amber dagger]

Who spawns the most power statues

What mob

[grizzled elk]

thats what I was doing forever pretty much, working on getting it sustainable now

[signal osprey]

DK beans

[stuck pasture]

So just keep everything at 0 auto and level everything regardless of the ratio?
Because I’m at 28 red but only like 16 green

[signal osprey]

Yeah there really isn't any benefit to that sheet later on. Its nice early because you can't really run out of salts to craft with but thats not an issue later

[tacit tulip]

I tend to do it in pairs

I set my pink/black based on my green

[signal osprey]

I just rank everything up

[tacit tulip]

yeah it's not like I need green/pink for anything now

[signal osprey]

Only thing to be careful with is pushing nullo to like 20 and then being held hostage by void bars

Other than that just rank up everything

[stuck pasture]

Aight leveling everything mode engaged 😅

[tacit tulip]

at 20 nullo you should more or less have everything you need from that salt anywa

[grizzled elk]

psh.. who would do something like that? not me... definitely not me..

[tacit tulip]

Guess who forgot to use nobisect for his vman sampling run

[signal osprey]

Well ideally you wouldn't use him because nobi doesn't affect samples

[tacit tulip]

yeah, but I ran out of time as I killed chizoar

which is worse 😄

[signal osprey]

Oof

Yeah in that case he's definitely nice

[stuck pasture]

Where are you guys getting to on good runs?

[tacit tulip]

I haven't done a portal run since the week vman came out

[signal osprey]

I don't speed run

[tacit tulip]

but I hit 52 the last time I ran

[signal osprey]

Maybe I'll do it again soon but I haven't really had a big issue with talents so never bothered

[stuck pasture]

Nice! Think I need to smash out another full run to get some more skill points

It’s a lot of micromanaging with the jumps back and fwd though

[undone lily]

is there a card website for best combinations?

[signal osprey]

Grab the W3 ring from the gem shop if you haven't. Those rings are big for speedruns

[stuck pasture]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1090072110879219803

Yeah I’ve got a full set up to w3, another thing I have to micromanage lol

[signal osprey]

I never grabbed the rings when they first came out

I only have a single W3 and W4 ring

I might speed run again when I eventually get 2 of each world

[solid epoch]

wonder if hes gonna make some w5 rings on w6 release

[signal osprey]

Maybe not on release but I'm sure they'll happen eventually

[untold lintel]

is there a DR sheet

[solid epoch]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1141880730411094106

[hallow hatch]

Should I just be researching after every harvest with < 1% or is there a percent I should wait to do it at, like 1% or 2%.

[solid epoch]

click the button as frequently as possible

soon as u hit 0.1% chance just click it

it has diminishing returns

[hallow hatch]

Okay thank you. Before getting Evergreen I was trying to save to get higher percentage, but could only get to 2% in a month

I couldn't find anywhere online where they said just roll it every chance

[pure ember]

It is said everywhere in the discord

For evergreen its around .5 or 1% iirc

[glad crow]

how many level 13 vials do i need to get snake vial to 100%?

[hexed crescent]

Am I missing some huge way of boosting bar production? My void salt is only lvl 3 and I still can't make enough void bars for it..

[bleak gust]

are there any gaming guides or is it pretty self explanatory

[signal osprey]

Either 27 or 28 I forget which one

[signal osprey]

Forge production comes entirely from the archer talent that gives progress on kills

[glad crow]

tyvm

[untold lintel]

now that im pushing divinity and on the 5th god im understanding how fucking OP doot is

like im imagining all these boosts on ALL my characters together just is so crazy overpowered

[hexed crescent]

Right, totally forgot about that, I'm guessing it doesn't work offline?

[pure ember]

It really pops when elephant is on + everyone before

[pure ember]

Afk kills count

[signal osprey]

Its actually better while afk

[hexed crescent]

oh really

What about MK?

[signal osprey]

Active kills don't count your multikill for that talent

Afk does

[pure ember]

But with lower tier ores it is 2 min claims.....

[hexed crescent]

So I should leave all my archers at beans?

[signal osprey]

Not much point in beans. If you're in W1 do gmush for money gains

[hexed crescent]

Probably boost the max lvl of the talent past lvl 100 too lol

[signal osprey]

Keep in mind the talent is more effective the more often you check your Archers

The optimal way would be every 2 minutes lol

[hexed crescent]

Yeah, probably gonna be more like every 2 days

I still need the bean vial, and 1b kills on them, so there is a point in farming them

[pure ember]

For monster vials it is better to sample on vman speed runs

[signal osprey]

I did the bean vial on active DK

DK beans is just the best farm in the game anyway so might as well

[hexed crescent]

Plus samping would reset the artifact bonus thing

Anyway, I guess I was missing something major, thanks

[pure ember]

It's better to sample every...2 weeks?

[bleak gust]

should i resample after hitting w5

or should i do it after a little when ive actually done some of the skills

[hexed crescent]

I do it yearly, I imagine next time will be when I get freebie Doot

[signal osprey]

For most people yeah if you're playing reasonably optimally you should be able to get a good resample in 2 weeks

The gold relic is for endgame

[hexed crescent]

How much of an increase do you really see though? I mean, compared to the relic and factoring in what a pain it is to sample..

[signal osprey]

Through early and midgame you can easily get 50%+ every 2 weeks

More often than not I was doubling my samples

That was sustainable easily up to like 300m samples although that was months ago too so that number would be a lot higher now

[hexed crescent]

I one time did 800x increase on a sample lol

[solid epoch]

vman?

[lapis mesa]

WooT! im cool now right

[signal osprey]

I feel like 600m-700m oak is probably around when it might slow down a bit. Before that 2 weeks should be easy if you're actually working on samples

[hexed crescent]

It was oak trees on bubo after the atom thing came

[little harbor]

i used to have 3 slots upgraded. what did i do to lose one? cant remember where those come from

[signal osprey]

Missing a blue lab jewel

[solid epoch]

yeah it took me like over a month to go from 700M to 1100M. most of that was due to this update bonus too

[little harbor]

thanks!

Is this saying i should be able to get to a 5th evolution already? never gotten one

[cinder cliff]

you unlock 5th evo in the superbits, its just rare

i havent gotten one yet either :/

[little harbor]

so i shouldnt be harvesting until i get one then?

[wicked trout]

does the afk time proc for breeding from elephant god affect the shiny pet leveling timers?

[dry sluice]

Is 9e15 damage past the interger limit

Cause if I'm matching right, I can hit it

[signal osprey]

Depends on speed and evo chance really. If those aren't very high it might be hard to get them

[jolly talon]

i have my ES connected to arctis, and also goharut, so i should count as in the lab, but I am not getting div. exp... does it not work like this?

[little harbor]

41 minutes, 18.9%. I could turn the cat thing on i suppose.

[twin token]

Ok so I only need to get 20k power statues once to unlock onyx on everyone right?

[signal osprey]

Goat requires you to be in lab physically

[signal osprey]

Definitely turn it on

[rustic garnet]

ok, 5k keys -- Kattlekruck, what are the odds I get a cape?

[dry sluice]

High.

[solid epoch]

50:50

[little harbor]

ok, 8.7 minutes.... will see how htis goes

[solid epoch]

either u get it or u dont

[rustic garnet]

this will be 15k keys at 18.5 DR

[dry sluice]

15K?

It has to be like, damn near gaurenteed

[solid epoch]

maybe ill give some NM kattle a go again

[rustic garnet]

yeah, I'm on an incredible capeless streak at this point

[signal osprey]

Never forget the 27k streak

[rustic garnet]

I did get a premium cat hat at least

27k, did you have one before that started though?

[dry sluice]

Yoo

[signal osprey]

No

[rustic garnet]

dang

[signal osprey]

That was for first cape lol

[solid epoch]

im gonna run my 6.51k kattle keys on Vman

[rustic garnet]

what is your VMAN damage?

[solid epoch]

1 sec gotta check

[rustic garnet]

over 100 billion?

[serene solstice]

OMG FINALY

[solid epoch]

over 1T

[serene solstice]

I have every pet now

[rustic garnet]

ah nice

what's driving your damage up so high?

[solid epoch]

slap

[rustic garnet]

what level is it?

[solid epoch]

3826

[rustic garnet]

dang nice

do you spend all of your atoms?

[solid epoch]

hmm maybe ill use my daily atoms on it first

[rustic garnet]

or are you hourly printing?

[solid epoch]

both

[sharp ruin]

Anyone down to help me with the p / s player saying 1 star game sucks

[rustic garnet]

I'm going to 4 star this before I get a cape

[mint remnant]

if i have like 4.4k leftover gems do i just 5star my dr cards or gamble on some chips

[rustic garnet]

if you have nothing else to buy, sure

did you buy a lot of gems?

[mint remnant]

na i just bought the dr pack and idk what to do with the gems

[rustic garnet]

right there is a guide for order/rank of the upgrades

there are a lot of upgrades

[mint remnant]

i have most of the ones i needed

[sharp ruin]

W6 getting closer on roadmap, would start saving gems

[iron mesa]

[torn thorn]

How close you think W6 is?

[winged quartz]

kekw

[rustic garnet]

nice

[torn thorn]

lol

[winged quartz]

the only thing i got lucky was this boss, i don't have any of the other bosses capes xd

[torn thorn]

No necklace.. But a cape? xD

[obsidian nacelle]

by lava standards, late nov or early dec.
in actuality, not until next feb

[rustic garnet]

I've got like 8 necks

[torn thorn]

bet, Ill keep on the saving train then.

thats toxic, xD I cant even get 1 to drop

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/E9ikYqt.png

might test and see how fast it takes to kill and if it dies fast ill try using looty

NM kattle dies in 8 hits on this setup, ill prob just keep it as is

[tacit tulip]

looty does very little to your overall damage

it's additive with something else so it's not a flat -90% like it looks

[solid epoch]

ill try goin full DR + looty

ah yeah that still works, the moles barely get halfway

[noble cradle]

dumb question but how tf do you get these insane amounts of DR and movementspeed??

[tacit tulip]

Movement speed is largely from statues

(food ones not the movespeed ones)

DR is a bit more complicated

[noble cradle]

food statue?

why food statue?

[signal osprey]

Speed pots

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/WFEgJXp.png

[noble cradle]

ohhhh

makes sense

thanks

[red slate]

best way to reach the 20k power statues? crystal farming or carrot farming? active DK or active ES?

[tacit tulip]

Active DK, on beans

[noble cradle]

pinned comment

[tacit tulip]

(crystal farming)

[solid epoch]

just unequipping and re-equipping the speed pots changes from 200B to 800B dmg lol

[tacit tulip]

that bit is quick slap no? 😄

[solid epoch]

its all quick slap ye

[iron mesa]

Kebabs

[sacred verge]

what lvl ? lol

[iron mesa]

Nice one

[sacred verge]

damn

[narrow torrent]

Is the DR pet additive or multiplicative?

[signal osprey]

Additive

[rustic garnet]

No cape 😕

32 cards

[old portal]

how to increase this more? what cards/gears do i need to use for it? (this my eff without axe forgot to put 1

[rustic garnet]

This farm is so slow...

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/LLE4X0g.png

just got it lol

[rustic garnet]

nice

[solid epoch]

~1600 keys

[sacred verge]

got one after 140 keys 😄 lol

[hot dove]

I'm really struggling with bits I've had w 5 since it came out and I don't even have the snail yet, I have both sailing bit bonuses, one of them a artifact, I'm not entirely sure what to do

Any advice to boost bit gain?

[rustic garnet]

keep grinding them

if you got all the god boosts

and sailing boosts

and vman

sorry not vman

dk

all those boosts, then just grind it

[hot dove]

Ok ya, confused me there

Darn, alright will do ig

[little harbor]

what broke with my cooking? I am 0.1% of what i was. lab still full

[rustic garnet]

I mean, you checked all the boosts right?

[hot dove]

Pretty sure

[rustic garnet]

zmakqo, check your vman

[hot dove]

Is there a list of them?

[rustic garnet]

and check you are connected right in the lab

[old portal]

why do i feel like this is too low.. any tips what to improve

[iron mesa]

Alchemy

[rustic garnet]

pump alchemy

[solid epoch]

• get doot real quick

[quasi wind]

Rando island or crystal

[old portal]

all my alchemy is 150+

[spark mortar]

Wtf that’s so over powered

[solid epoch]

get them all to 500+ on all chopping related bubbles

[rustic garnet]

its' fine

[old portal]

i resampled now but i only got like from 125m to 150m

[solid epoch]

bubble 2 pumping to 500 is a good start with atoms

since its cheap

[old portal]

how about gods what to link?

i comepletly forgot gods

[little harbor]

yep, forgot i speccd vman different. Thanks. i wish you could save profiles of everything instead of needed to log into 10 chars and make 100 changes for each new activity.

[granite grove]

snake god best for sampling iirc

[old portal]

iam using rabbit + arctic

[rustic garnet]

snake but then switch back to harriep

[old portal]

changed to hari+ snake got 160m now

[unborn relic]

Is there something in game that limits drop rarity because I'm putting cards and star signs on and my drop rarity isn't increasing from x5.07

[old portal]

chips

[iron mesa]

Lab chip

[unborn relic]

??

[iron mesa]

Lab chip

[unborn relic]

Do I need to get a lab chip?

[iron mesa]

Unequip it

[old portal]

remove lab chip

[quartz turtle]

u need to remove yours

[unborn relic]

Oh

Haha thanks I completely forgot about that

[little pagoda]

Removing the chip won't help but it will show your "true" DR

[old portal]

anyone here have 1b_ oak samples? can i see ur IE

[solid epoch]

https://xewulf.idleonefficiency.com

just sampled 1B today

[old portal]

aight thanks alot

[solid epoch]

one bubble i need to increase is tree sleeper, could get like 8% more afk gain if i atom it a bit

[old portal]

what foods should i put?

[solid epoch]

for choppin? I just did those 2 boost foods that increase tool speed, cap is 62/Min

[old portal]

also whats the best chip sets aswell?

[old portal]

iam only at 59/min

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/UxxPTfg.png

i did this

[iron mesa]

doublers, afk skilling and base eff?

[solid epoch]

but u could take out some of those orange chips if needed for the eff ones

[old portal]

i dont have key chain doubler what should i change it

yeah ill check which better the total or the base one

total skilling better for me aight

what cards to replace?

[solid epoch]

i used the exact same card setup

[old portal]

and should i 5sar both first and last cards?

[solid epoch]

also had a mana setup that i snapshotted

yes

[old portal]

nah iam using rough setup since i dont even try to to this with gods

[solid epoch]

how is ur multitool stamp? that is a big one

[rapid shale]

Is it normal for ES to have like 5x the damage from my other classes

[old portal]

this low

[solid epoch]

yeah little low, try to eventually reach 200

[old portal]

iam money gatted with this

[solid epoch]

its extremely important for prints

[old portal]

i have 282m mats but no money

[solid epoch]

its not usually a money gate stamp. most people have a hard time holding enough mats in the inventory

[old portal]

yeah ik but rn iam mone gatted

[solid epoch]

if u do a little bit of gmush candying u will be fine for money

[old portal]

i can carry alot of mats but iam not trying to since i havent active my bubo since

[solid epoch]

like im only at 2B gmush and still havent had a need for more money yet

[old portal]

iam at 1.1b

1.7b i mean

i havent setup anything yet since i just returned from a break

just trying to get better oak gains without any god setup

[solid epoch]

u should get pretty decent cash if u active bubo on tremor wurms

[old portal]

yeah but i havent active much yet

aight from 125m to 215m without god setup not bad i guess

[solid epoch]

nice

thats a start

[old portal]

also about gears xD what best to use

[torn thorn]

hell im sitting here wondering when to redo my oak logs. >.> have a 2.3x multiplier at 420m on 3 guys but its up to 670m atm?

been neeeding to redo monster samples on maestro to do alchemy mastery stuff but dreading the resample..

[solid epoch]

i was running that same hat as you with magma armor/pants, and fiberous boots

[old portal]

what fiberous boots

[solid epoch]

also I was using the divine scarf instead of persephone

[stiff kayak]

i fr just got the hipo artifact and its ancient form in the same 13 chest

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/8xjS7Ue.png

[stiff kayak]

and they were all bad

[old portal]

nvm i have the boots all this time

[solid epoch]

u got a divine scarf anywhere?

or not there yet

[old portal]

idk what that is lol

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/8R7bFv7.png

[old portal]

i just returned like 3 days ago from taking a break pre rift update

yeah i dont have that

damn that stat is broken

[gentle furnace]

Need to kill nkruk with 10 chars

[old portal]

wont happen anytime soon since neglected last 3 chars

my last 3 chars are just lab slaves until now

[ember abyss]

Is there a guide for DR? I'm seeing all these people with 20+ and I'm barely above 7.5.

[mystic cradle]

Best class to use for rift 42? I've done one on sb but can't seem to get another

[untold lintel]

anyone got the bone marrow chart? explaining the math breakdowns of when it gets good

[true obsidian]

well, no one perfect

[torn thorn]

thats the kattlekruk neck? jeez better then the skilling neck LOL

[gentle furnace]

After 500 plate levels the number skyrockets

[summer pagoda]

Hey guys, what's the bonus that boosts the bottom right card (i think ?) ?

[gentle furnace]

Chip

[summer pagoda]

oh thank you !

[fallow aurora]

does multikill increase genes you get from splicing?

[sick sentinel]

something like that

[gentle furnace]

Yes, splicing is based on your kph

[fallow aurora]

ty

[tawdry steeple]

is there a setup for candying two-soul and construction statues? cause I can only get 44 an hour

[sick sentinel]

i assume all drop rate and doubled afk gains stuff, but i need to do that later too

[rapid shale]

is it normal for elemental sorcer to have the best damage by like 3 timesish

[sick sentinel]

thats how it was for me for a while

other characters catch up

[solid epoch]

usually siegebreaker is highest dmg

[rapid shale]

siegebreakers my lowest :p

[solid epoch]

sounds like u havent been leveling any green bubbles lol

[sick sentinel]

sb takes a bit of investment, ele sorc is easier to find dmg for at the start

[heavy moth]

but once the investment starts to pay off the dmg skyrocket

[old portal]

how to lower exp multi? its stil ltooo high

[rapid shale]

maybe, Ive been leveling green as much as I can but, only been playiing like a month and a half so still working on alchemy

[sick sentinel]

movespeed and anvil lvls are big for sb dmg

[rapid shale]

just got bubble 16 for green today

[sick sentinel]

those take a little time too

[rapid shale]

ye my sb is just at like 3.5mil max damage while my Es is at 11.5 mil max

both level 150ish

[solid epoch]

does ur SB have full speed pots equipped?

thats where all the dmg comes from

[rapid shale]

he stuck at 175% movement

[old portal]

yeah ur bonus is too small yet

[sick sentinel]

with 4 speed pots?

[solid epoch]

i get around 5x dmg from equipping my speed pots on my SB

its real important

[rapid shale]

okay didnt know about speed potions

[sick sentinel]

ye they are huge

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/XkXiSLw.png

2600% dmg

[tiny citrus]

hyper total damage obols keep them or trash it ??

[rapid shale]

guess I need better boost food bonuses too

the pots brought me from 175 to 188

[solid epoch]

yeah that helps, the onyx feasty is so strong

[sick sentinel]

i dont think you can trash em can you? just use them as fill when you need a bit more dmg

[solid epoch]

do u have the minto choco boost food? its better than a small speed pot

[heavy moth]

why do i have more MS 😮 im missing choco one as well

[solid epoch]

whats ur feasty?

[tiny citrus]

i dont need the damage XDXD

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/ImUq3IL.png

im just using 4 pots rn

[heavy moth]

same 4 pot but instead of choco its small one and feasty at 865%

[violet ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1jujutsu-speed-gif-19242043

[rapid shale]

i have no access to mintochoco

[solid epoch]

hmm my feasty is at 890%

[bold quiver]

can i progress after this guy being a beginner?

[solid epoch]

speed statue lvl?

[bold quiver]

and pick a class later? ( im not a journeyman

[heavy moth]

lvl 220

[solid epoch]

im also 220

weird

[heavy moth]

thats weird XD you got better pots, higher feasty and same speed statue

[warped grail]

no

[solid epoch]

maybe its the stamp

[bold quiver]

ok gonna pick archer then

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/jiLvAzg.png

i need to upgrade it more

[tall horizon]

Use a tp to move to next map

[bold quiver]

oh true lol - like cheese to mimic hole

[heavy moth]

even that

[solid epoch]

wth

[gentle furnace]

Strafe and feather talent level?

[heavy moth]

how much agi you got

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/PYzyksu.png

[solid epoch]

guess its the 3k agi

[heavy moth]

with the percent ahah not a huge dif

[true obsidian]

does anyone know which set up rod is the best for grinding fishing exp for Vman?

[gentle furnace]

Seasalt unlocked?

[true obsidian]

yes

just unlock today

[gentle furnace]

I use w5 ones

[signal osprey]

Should be valve circles and platinum twine for exp

Also use the new rings. Purple and red depth

[true obsidian]

3 spot is the same or different like other spot?

[gentle furnace]

Use both?

[solid epoch]

oh did u have strafe active?

it wasnt active for me

[heavy moth]

whats starfe XD

[signal osprey]

Definitely use purple and I would assume red too but I guess you can test with and without

[signal osprey]

Keep in mind the exp they give won't show on afk screen

You need to use a candy and see how much you get

[true obsidian]

only got yellow and red now

[signal osprey]

Then at least use red

[gentle furnace]

Yeah i realized that, the afk info shows 500m/hr but actually gave me 1b/hr

[heavy moth]

oh yea thats probably it

[signal osprey]

Fishing afk shows the exp earned from only the smallest fish

But bigger fish do give more exp

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/AU936NP.png

heres with it active

[signal osprey]

So depth is important

[heavy moth]

now life makes sens ahahha

[solid epoch]

yeah lmao

[quaint crypt]

Hi guys, just rushed to w5 2 days ago, is the best course of action now to just afk on divnity on all chars to unlock gods?

[gray pagoda]

Apparently this is the best thing to do for DK crystal farming. What's the best thing to use in place of the giftmas blobulyte? I'm using mimic, but I just want to make sure there isn't something better. I have all the other cards.

[signal osprey]

Its mimic

Thats the only other DR card

[gray pagoda]

Alright, thank you. I missed out on most of the giftmas event, so I only have the blobulyte to 1 star 😅

Oh, ok. Thanks.

[solid epoch]

ayy i got another cape on a different character, only took 500 more keys

3/10 trophies now

[flat wraith]

I'm so sorry if this has been asked a thousand times, I have googled but all the results just give answers "I think there's 4" or "I think there's 5"

What is the current max evolutions per plant in gaming/gardening?

[hexed crescent]

6 or maybe 7

[flat wraith]

Well, I can't seem to get them past 4

[hexed crescent]

Look at what it says, you buy additional evolutions

[flat wraith]

yeah mine says 5, but the plants don't go past 4

[hexed crescent]

It's just slow

[wind umbra]

there are 7 evos

[flat wraith]

Been a week life week now 😦

[wind umbra]

u unlock them at superbits

[flat wraith]

Aha!

[signal osprey]

Gotta boost your speed and evo chance

[hexed crescent]

Probably shouldn't have went for 5 yet if you haven't gotten any after a whole week

[flat wraith]

Is this true?

[flat wraith]

Why? I definitely wouldn't get the 5th evolution if I'm limited to 4

[waxen shard]

yes?

[wind umbra]

ye

[waxen shard]

u've got to buy plant evo superbits upgrade

[wind umbra]

there are 3 of these in super bits

[hexed crescent]

Idk what you're asking

[flat wraith]

That's exactly what I'm missing thank you so much

[waxen shard]

first one is hella cheap and u should get it pretty fast, second and third are gonna be wayyyy later

[flat wraith]

I thought just upgrading the mutation chance, when in changed from "plants can evolve up to 4 times" to "plants can evolve up to 5 times" was all I had to do

I didn't realise I needed to also purchase the plant ugprade in superbits

[flat wraith]

I think we were getting our wires crossed/talking about something different - it doesn't matter now, I've seen the error of my ways hahahah

[pale jay]

Be aware the odds for superbit evos popping are worse as stated on the superbit description

[obsidian nacelle]

so how do gilded stamps work? am i using it the moment i upgrade a stamp or only when i have to use mats to get more levels out of the stamp

[glad crow]

mats

[obsidian nacelle]

ty ty needed that clarification

also, why do my talents just randomly reset out of nowhere

[weary hinge]

do you often swap playing on devices

[hexed crescent]

Cause you play on different devices

[obsidian nacelle]

i do but ive played exclusively on my pc for the past month

[weary hinge]

still the case.

[paper sail]

Did you log out completely?

[hexed crescent]

Seems like the current talent build is saved externally, while the saved presets are saved locally

[obsidian nacelle]

i did have to log back in after waking up to a white screen

recently

[hexed crescent]

Ah, I got it, clearly your account has been hacked

That was supposed to be a joke btw..

[obsidian nacelle]

: o not poor ole me

[paper sail]

As mentioned, only current selected preset gets cloudsaved. Anything else is local only and gets wiped on logout

[obsidian nacelle]

wonder if they found my 0.02 in my acc XD

but damn, that kinda stupid

[hexed crescent]

No, this game was made by a genius and is absolutely perfect in every single way

[prisma furnace]

What divinity lvl do you need to get max bonus?

[paper sail]

There is no max bonus

[tacit tulip]

My lazy-ass just determines 100 div as "complete" 😄

[glad crow]

there is.... for example for arctis its +15

[paper sail]

That is from Div levels only. Big P goes above that

[glad crow]

no big p doesnt increse the max

[lean niche]

finally 210 multitool stamp now to stop grinding glass shards

[noble cradle]

210 the max level?

is tehre even a max level for stamps?

[iron mesa]

Depends on your capacity

[noble cradle]

ahhh okay but 210 for thsi stamp a sweet spot or what? ^^'

[iron mesa]

Cap cuz of capacity

[noble cradle]

aight

since i somewhat ignored stamps until now any god tier stamps i should "max" asap?

[signal osprey]

You're both partly right

[glad crow]

wait wut?

[signal osprey]

Lava designed a max bonus for each god and in order to reach it you need a combination of div levels and big p. Its not possible to cap without big p

The thing is the math formula is only a soft cap

With enough div and big p you can go over it

[glad crow]

jar, food effect, crystal chance, carry cap, refinery, multitool, all the non-stack mat stamps up til 80+ cost

[signal osprey]

And yes it gives bonuses

[noble cradle]

thanks

[glad crow]

so whats needed for + 16 levels?

[signal osprey]

The exact numbers will vary based on big p but its a decent investment

Like 120+ div with 95% big p

[clear quartz]

after i get eldritch fury i think i may go back and spam send boats to work on big p for awhile

maybe not a great idea but maybe 1 day spent on that is solid

[signal osprey]

I would but I won't be home for a few more hours

[dapper prism]

No worries, guess ill leave xD

[vocal flower]

Finally a girthy nug

[cyan pond]

Hi, what are these stamps cant seem to see anything about them on ie? https://gyazo.com/29e5a60c1d7ddbe52a4170b91285f98e

[dapper prism]

They arnt a thing

Can also use toolbox, they are labled as "blank"

[cyan pond]

ah ok ty!

[paper sail]

The new stamps from Trash Island may not be listed correctly yet

[sour oasis]

Satisfying damage numbers

[signal osprey]

The new stamps are all accounted for on both tools I think

[twin token]

So breakpoints for dr will give me a lot of extra materials compared to just normally increasing f
Dr?

[signal osprey]

Well yes and no. For starters you reach breakpoints by normally increasing DR

But also every item that has a break point will be based on its drop chance so you can't really optimize DR around some universal break point. Its different for everything

Just get as much DR as you realistically can

[twin token]

Breakpoint for statues is .51 correct?

So I think I could squeeze out some extra dr to hit that breakpoint

[signal osprey]

For W1-W3 statues yes

[twin token]

Alr thx

Oh also how big of a boost do I get

Is it dependant on how much dr I have beforehand?

[signal osprey]

Reaching new breakpoints adds an extra drop when looting the item

So when you pick up a statue it actually gives more than one of that statue

[paper sail]

Is that only for crystals because of their 1 in 2 bag chance?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[twin token]

Ohh ok

[signal osprey]

And even then it depends on a lot of other stuff with orb too

[iron citrus]

Struggling with rift 44, wormhole 60, can only get 35, and I'm like 33bil-70bil damage

[signal osprey]

Realistically break points aren't very practical to base gameplay around in most situations

[iron citrus]

Any advice (apart from gey strong lmao)

[twin token]

Orb gives 1% for extra drop per kill right?

[paper sail]

You are going to need 100b minimim. Best place is a tiny platform in the far left side

Depending on your book levels, you might need up to 130b

[iron citrus]

Thanks, I'll give it a rest for the moment then and work on alchemy

[signal osprey]

Its a 1% chance for that kill to count as a second kill

[twin token]

Ohh ok

[signal osprey]

Past 100% it gives a chance to count as a third kill and so on

[twin token]

I heard some ppl telling me it was just .01 dr every kill and I was like there's no way that's it

[signal osprey]

Its not lol

If it was that them bubo would probably farm statues better

[twin token]

Yeah

I was thinking like no way I'm getting so many more chiz keys from Slush by having an extra 2 dr

[paper sail]

350 stacks in Colo when Slush dies means you're rolling loot as if you killed 4 Slush, possibly 5

[lavish cloak]

Alchemy allows for infinite talent points (assuming 50 upgrades a day with sufficient atom production) for all but star talents. Is there a comparable increaser to star talents?

[paper sail]

Same for the chests too

[upbeat falcon]

What's the chances these are the final concept for w6/w7 elite classes?

[vocal ibex]

can i get a link to max obol reroll

i am trying to get better trapping ones

[paper sail]

Those only reroll stats.

[little pagoda]

You don't have a level 200 royal guard yet? smh

[vocal ibex]

u have a link to what obols actually reroll ? just spent like 500 on trying to re roll it lmao

[paper sail]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Obols#Obol_Rerolling

[vocal ibex]

looks like only the yellow trap is the one we can get

[paper sail]

Bronze

[upbeat falcon]

Converting from those, DK-> Royal Guardian?, ES ->Arcane (blank), Siege Breaker-> Wind Walker, BC-> Death B(blank), BB-> Mayheim, Beast Master-> Spiritual (blank)

[upbeat falcon]

Huh

thanks for that

[paper sail]

Been on the wiki forever

[vocal ibex]

i meant we can upgrade only to yellow

wish we could buy more obol space...

[paper sail]

You can merge all the way to sparkle

[vocal ibex]

dope okay

[vocal ibex]

ooooo

[paper sail]

You just can't get a hex or sparkle naturally- merge only

[vocal ibex]

how do you juggle all the square obols

i only have 6 spots avaialable left.. i bought all space

[paper sail]

Why are you keeping so many..?

[vocal ibex]

i have like 5 or so for all other skills

[gray pagoda]

What world are you in?

[vocal ibex]

5

[paper sail]

Just wear them lol

[vocal ibex]

yeah i have all my obols wrong then

i placed mostly stat obols on characters until i go do their designated task like mining worship etc

[gray pagoda]

Ngl, obols are one of my least favorite, very essential things to do lol

[vocal ibex]

so they all have dr wis or agility etc

[gray pagoda]

Especially when it comes to the dr obols... Those things are a nightmare

[tacit tulip]

I'm waiting for the day rift 51 makes personal obols global and everyone goes "oh shit"

[ancient vine]

I Didn't know that was the last class of voidwalker

[paper sail]

Voidwalker used to be called Virtuoso forever, so they may get tweaks still

[ancient vine]

I see

Now we Will have to wait months to see those classes

🥹

[prisma drift]

I think lava said w7 so like a year probably

[ancient vine]

[gray pagoda]

I completely misunderstood Lava's new road map. It has W6, and then it says "Three Elite classes, W7, Three Elite Classes, W8" and thought he meant that we weren't getting new elite classes until W7. He just meant that after W6 we'll get new elites smh.

[vocal ibex]

@paper sail arent your characters all fighting something or farming something? is it best to keep their skilling obols always on

[prisma drift]

3 classes in world 7 and 3 in 8

[paper sail]

I just move them around before claiming afk gains

[tacit tulip]

the weird part is gonna be: what happens with w6 skills?

[gray pagoda]

No, if you look at the old road map, it has W4 and then 3 elite classes

We're still getting elites in W6

See?

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure the road map is just formatted weird and its supposed to read as 3 elite classes > W7

[old portal]

is it world 6 next update or the more 4/5 npcs?

[signal osprey]

As in we get them after W6 but before W7

[tacit tulip]

ah you're absolutely right

Completely missed that

[paper sail]

w5 npcs if he sticks to his word and completion trophy

[gray pagoda]

Should be W5 completion next, along with the last part of W4 completion

[old portal]

the "newer" npcs are not enough?

hmmm i see

[gray pagoda]

Yeah, that's what it means. I was thinking way different at first lol.

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure completion is done? We got our world trophies now

[barren otter]

wait what else is missing from w4 completion?

[gray pagoda]

He only added in 2, and there's a confirmed 3rd one in the seeker map.

[paper sail]

So then.. what about w8 skills?

[signal osprey]

Plus those sprites hes been posting are definitely W6 assets

[tacit tulip]

w4 is still missing a spice, 3 meals, and some lab nodes/gems

[gray pagoda]

Not yet, we still need that last npc in W4

[barren otter]

[old portal]

yeah unlocking all lab bonuses shouldnt be gated with doot pet

[gray pagoda]

Those are for esoteric classes. The math gets messy there, with there being 12 main esoteric classes plus the Ilyte, so there would be 13 new classes in one world, but I'm sure Lava will figure it out.

If not, we'll get until like W11

[tacit tulip]

in theory it'll be like tab 1

heavy shared talents, with some uniques

[paper sail]

Do we have Lava actually saying that, or just guessing?

[gray pagoda]

Just guessing. That's the way the math works out though.

W8 -> 4 esoteric classes (cause of Ilyte)
W9 -> 3 esoteric classes
W10 -> 3 esoteric classes
W11 -> 3 esoteric classes

And that gives you your 13 esoteric classes

[paper sail]

Lava has already said W8 is the end many times

[gray pagoda]

Which means to get every final class, we'll need at least 13 characters, but it wouldn't surprise me if we got 18, just to get 3 full pages

Yeah, I figured, but that would mean W8 is going to be hell, with 13 new classes, and possibly skills

Plus, those classes would have a completely new way to unlock them, with a new npc, so we can't just rush through (sort of)

[untold saffron]

how many twosoul statues you guys getting per hour going for 20k?

[gray pagoda]

0... Still haven't gotten the power statues needed for the tool 😅

I'm focusing on those rn

[untold saffron]

unless I'm doing something wrong they seem proper slow

[tacit tulip]

yeah the w3 ones and the tree one will be slowest

[paper sail]

650ish with active ES, 18.8x Dr, 2t damage

[tacit tulip]

almost done with tree now

[gray pagoda]

I just went to Crystal Island, killed a giant crystal carrot, and didn't get a SINGLE STATUE

I got statues from the cattle, but that doesn't count

The way this is going I'll unlock onyx statues when I get the Choco chip 😓

[untold saffron]

unless you're super end game i'd maybe even suggest not bother until you have a choco chip

[gray pagoda]

I can't stop now. I'm in too deep.

[vocal ibex]

question about obols the link i was provided doesnt say anything about rerolling construction to 2 percent but i tried it and it worked

scoli

[gray pagoda]

If I stop, I'm going to deposit them eventually

[timid delta]

build speed is not the same as a tool power. for some reason

[vocal ibex]

so what are the ones i can acutally reroll

[timid delta]

obols are weird, why does money obol not upgrade past gold

every skilling one, once its hexa

[paper sail]

It says you can reroll Misc, which is what you did

[lone galleon]

i'm getting like 300 statues/hr without choco chip and it's bad but just possible enough where i'm going to spend the next 3 days getting them

[vocal ibex]

oh okay is my first time on there i must of read to fast. understanding all the aspects is a bit

thank you for that misc info

[paper sail]

Same for drop rate on pop and dice. Listed as Misc so can be rerolled

[gray pagoda]

Be careful though, because it can go down too. The base is what you get it at. From there, rerolling can give you either +/- 1% on the misc.

For example, a silver pop obol will give you 2% dr. If you reroll, you could get lucky and land on 3%, or get unlucky and land on 1%. It also has a chance to just not change the misc at all. But, you reroll obols infinitely, it's just pricey (with the fragments, not coins).

[paper sail]

Not a huge deal. Just reroll over it again if that happens, or use it as a right-side obol during a merge 🤷

[vocal ibex]

when upgrading to every different shape it only gains +1 right?

[pure ember]

I think they are w4/w5 dungeon

[hidden sphinx]

He’s adding new dungeon?

[vocal ibex]

those obols are max?

look dope

[tacit tulip]

max % yeah

[gray pagoda]

Not likely. I think he's posting things for W6, like TheContract said.

[pure ember]

He said completion... dungeons would be part of that

[tacit tulip]

I'd love to see a w4/5 colo npc to fuel my colo ticket addiction

[pure ember]

This is why I think that

[gray pagoda]

Yes. We need that. I'm so sick of having to wait so long to get tickets for the W4 colo

[paper sail]

I wouldn't mind Colo quests, but please no w4 or w5 dungeon

[tacit tulip]

My concern is w2 haha - need them candies

[pale basin]

Tips for div?

[gray pagoda]

Fair enough

[pure ember]

Thing is.... w3 dungeon is the worst one

[pale basin]

@tacit tulip that doesn't tell me much

[hidden sphinx]

Too many dungeons atm and only w1 acc is worth doing for any reason besides cards

[tacit tulip]

just being obtuse because I can. The most important thing for div is time

[pure ember]

Put everyone on it and wait

[pale basin]

Ok

[tacit tulip]

Rolling low regularly to try and unlock the 100% chance isn't a bad idea either

[vocal ibex]

sokori i just got 12 on the blue obol consturction

[thorn marsh]

divinity until bear then back to labs (:

[pure ember]

You want everyone to get to lvl 40

[stable kayak]

Good afternoon, If I Created my last character and threw the hat on the floor and pick it up and then threw it, but the slab did not count it ( Starter hat ) is there any way to get it back?

[signal osprey]

The latest post he uploaded was titled W6lanternwalk.gif

[tacit tulip]

no, but each hat type is dropped by a specific mob now

[stable kayak]

Thanks!! that works for me

[paper sail]

All starter hats drop from a specific enemy in each world, very rarely

[thorn marsh]

1:6.666.666 tho

but glhf

[stable kayak]

OFC Mine had to be from W5 HAHA

[pale basin]

Cone hat from w5

[tacit tulip]

I got several accidentally while farming super chow

haha

[stable kayak]

Also, does anyone have any advice to kill the oranges the 1 million? I only kill 6K per hour with my BB, not sure what I need to min-max