lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[signal osprey]

Endgame is really just decision making. You just pick something to improve and then improve it until eventually you're satisfied

[opaque sun]

You can share scarf, but not cape drops

You need to farm 10 capes to get 10 trophies basically

[gritty sierra]

How come my multikill isn't kicking in... mob health is 720m

[mighty coral]

On mage pizza wold 1

[tall horizon]

showing afk screen would be more helpful

[gritty sierra]

Sorry

Ahhh

[tall horizon]

that is lol

[gritty sierra]

Survival

Nvm nvm nvm

[tall horizon]

you have mk though

what this means

[abstract spear]

I just got King Doot before I created my last character, and he is not acknowledging him. Is there any fix to this? Like my last character isn't linked to any divinity

[bold quiver]

iit finaly happened - 666 -

[gritty sierra]

Overlook one small thing...

[tall horizon]

take off that prayer and you likely hit 100% survival

[bold quiver]

im never increasing my laddle gain

[dreamy rapids]

Damn how do you have so much AFK gains

[bold quiver]

doot

[dreamy rapids]

Bruh

[bold quiver]

very strong right

[dreamy rapids]

I am starting to hit a roadblock in Cooking

And than I will have nothing to do with my BB

[bold quiver]

thats how cooking goes, U are all happy about laddle gains etc, then u realize that u start to get capped by other upgrades and not laddle quantity

then u save a few thousand laddles, wait for speed to increase, spend everything, repeat ;[

[dreamy rapids]

Probably gonna have to level up my BB just so I can clear NM Kattle

He is my first...

[glacial venture]

my roadblockatm is vman

still too weak

[bold quiver]

pain

[tawdry steeple]

my minimum upgrade for cooking is 6k ladles, and I have atom maxed at 20/20...so kinda dead to me for a while

[bold quiver]

he is my first also. Luckily BB has a lot of dmg with no pain no gain

[dreamy rapids]

I still needs to get the lava gear for Vman

50M/1 drop rate is stink

[bold quiver]

yeah need to waint until minimum upgrade is 2-5 laddles again

[tall horizon]

vman talent at 245?

[bold quiver]

but tdfamn 6k laddles for minimum, i always stopped at 400 per level

[tawdry steeple]

yup

everything is pretty much lvl 50+ I could have a few 60s but they're like 10k ladles for that last upgrade

[bold quiver]

damn so expensive

[tall horizon]

you're missing something then, you should be able to have a lot at 60 and all 52-53+ at 6k min cost

[bold quiver]

cant imagine myself spending more than 1k laadles for 1 upgrade

[dreamy rapids]

Not worth the struggle but honestly BB has nothing better to do

[tawdry steeple]

ya I feel like I should've been, maybe I'll look over it later again today

[tall horizon]

BB talents maxed to get the most out of usage? Dchef level?

[bold quiver]

to have the minimum upgrade at 6K, last tmie u upgraded something did u actualy spend 5K laddles for 1 upgrade bro?

[tall horizon]

pushing upgrades on all tables as much as possible?

[tawdry steeple]

yup all 245, bubble is 251

[bold quiver]

cuz to get to that point u should have stacked more than 200-300k laddles

or even more

[tall horizon]

raise that bubble, i think the optimal is ~600 range

[tawdry steeple]

ah

[tall horizon]

Check the sheet in tips, i cant recall off the top of my head

[signal osprey]

Definitely a bubble issue. Most people go to about 760 for 80%

[bold quiver]

400 is enough, starts to get whatever after 350ish

[tawdry steeple]

I had 450k ladles when upgraded. at 150k now

[signal osprey]

1050 for 85% is what I did personally

[bold quiver]

holy cow bro

[tall horizon]

need to bump mine now

[bold quiver]

dmn doesnt seem that worth tho, the increment from 300 to 400 on total speed is so small '.'

[tawdry steeple]

I have 2 BBs netting me close to 7k a day(+ the double chance)

[bold quiver]

cant imagine how much worse would it be fro 400 to 1000

[signal osprey]

You have to remember that the bubble is applied 57 times

Its not as small as it looks

[bold quiver]

thats why i checked total speed before upgrading 100 times xDF

and the increment was very bad

so i decided to stop

[signal osprey]

Welcome to endgame

Everything is bad

[tall horizon]

lol

yup

[signal osprey]

But you have to do something

[tall horizon]

increases that all add together for moar

[bold quiver]

yeah il get back to that once all the other usefull stuff are at 95%

no point doing something useless just to do it now

[prisma vigil]

Is it worth it to farm/attempt to gain the 6 rank plants in gaming as soon as you have unlocked plant evo?

[signal osprey]

It depends on your growth cycle time more than anything else

But with most things in idleon if you have to ask you probably aren't ready

[prisma vigil]

Fair :p Currently at 37.6mins per cycle. No idea if squirel is immediately counted into that but he's at 95.1%

[signal osprey]

It is counted

And yeah thats about 10 times slower than you would like it to be

[coral ravine]

Do you have to do all of the onyx quests on each character?

[prisma vigil]

No.

[hardy quarry]

But should you? Yes.

[tall horizon]

need that 100k kachow

[prisma vigil]

Hehe, I'm mostly an afk player, but gaming just feels so slow at the million-billion point scores.

[signal osprey]

Gaming is awful at every point don't worry

[glacial venture]

did someone ever suggest a npc to trade in candies for other candies?

gaming becomes a chore when you get lots of chemical plants...

[tacit tulip]

honestly I'd just slap it on the anvil

[glacial venture]

im on 9 chemical plants atm...

[signal osprey]

Sometimes I just harvest all

[undone nacelle]

With kitsune?

[signal osprey]

Its just not worth it

[glacial venture]

dont want them but just auto collect feels wrong too^^

[tall horizon]

many, MANY times

[signal osprey]

Gaming isn't nearly rewarding enough to subject yourself to 60 minute chem farms

[tall horizon]

Harvest all is best friend

[signal osprey]

Yup

[tall horizon]

Especially considering snail upgrades invalidate any time you spend on chem cycles with 1 upgrade

[signal osprey]

I'll give it like 5 minutes and if I still have chems popping up I just stop

Harvest all and move on with my day

[prisma vigil]

Ah, good point! Completely forgot about the rock due to afking so much :p

[wooden elk]

Just got to green trillion yesterday, still don't have chem

[prisma vigil]

8.4mins with kitsune, so that's a LOT better

[fossil ferry]

my snail went from lvl 4 to 0 and now im depressed

[gentle anchor]

works on sailing?

[wooden elk]

My snail failed at 90% for level 2 and went back to 0, getting that early frustration out of the way... Right?

[gentle anchor]

works on sailing?

[glacial venture]

w1-3 skills

[bold quiver]

too fast

[prisma drift]

Hey me too

[hazy atlas]

ok, so now that I am in world five and just unlocked atom smasher

[prisma drift]

I am stopping at 7

[bold quiver]

i aint ever stopping bro

[prisma drift]

I need to do the rest of my shinies to 6

[bold quiver]

im swapiing this setup once lava releases new pets

[hazy atlas]

I need to work on getting huge stacks of materials. I also need to work on getting huge samples for the 3d printer. I have everyone in the lab and divinity (thanks King Doot) but I'm running around with my BB still pushing 5

[prisma drift]

My anvil is starting to get fast enough to do anvil vials

[bold quiver]

niceee

im trying to finish this, but its so had

[glacial venture]

thats the mistake you do...you push with BB

[prisma drift]

I don’t have the candy to do that

I also didn’t max the arcade bonus

[hazy atlas]

well, I can switch to any other ones. I might as well switch to ES

[prisma drift]

I’ll do forge vials after I max arcade bonus

[bold quiver]

same, i dumped a ton of candies and it didnt get me far

[prisma drift]

Arcade bonus is % so I’m just gonna wait since it rotates in a lot

[bold quiver]

but i have some questions, i leveled tyhe arcade thing 20 times but my max in 1h bar candy didnt change

[tall horizon]

its only a couple days of 2 minute claims

[bold quiver]

true i need to set up to do it

[tall horizon]

just hoard candy 😛

[bold quiver]

i spent 2k candies a few days ago

[tall horizon]

I got mine from gmush farming, because im not insane enough to do 2 minute claims that much

[prisma drift]

I’ll just pull a Zelb and farm w2 Colo 1000 times

[bold quiver]

got me to 100B gmush at least

i finished the copper one and got that one to that

need to run colo3 to farm candies again D:

300 tickets would guarantee 100 1h and 100 2h so not much

[prisma drift]

Could guarantee 150 1 and 2 hour if you run w2 Colo

[bold quiver]

but doing w2 is a pain in the ass

[prisma drift]

But golden kebabs

[bold quiver]

:{

[prisma drift]

I hate standing around in w2 Colo

Very boring

[bold quiver]

horrible

i'd rather get less candy

[glacial venture]

then disable midas

[bold quiver]

at least at w3 u can do 2 runs easily

[bold quiver]

thats without midas

ops,

[prisma drift]

You can do 2 runs on w2

[bold quiver]

got both a wing and a necklace (which was what i wanted) single run

[bold quiver]

tight on time

or u have to overlevel your orb

[prisma drift]

Reset P.O. Box and don’t level mana box

Better gains overall with longer orb

[bold quiver]

smmart how many extra seconds can i level

[prisma drift]

Gets you another 13 seconds I think

[bold quiver]

oh rly? thats huge

[prisma drift]

137 to 150 I think

[bold quiver]

and i wouldnt rly be missing cooldown on other skils for farming

wouldnt be able to place 3 statues ;[

[prisma drift]

You lose a little mining sample

Because big pick I think

[bold quiver]

😮

[prisma drift]

But atoms from logs anyways imo

[bold quiver]

need to respect ore sample bro

[signal osprey]

Shouldn't matter for you if you have doot

[prisma drift]

Right so you’ll lose a fraction of what you gain total

[bold quiver]

i will reset, better to have a longer orb even for statue farming 😮

[signal osprey]

With slug and arctis you can already get over 300+ talent lev pretty easily

[bold quiver]

yes my talents are at 307

[prisma drift]

I think doot enjoyer thought of it

[signal osprey]

At that point orb starts to be worth it again even with the reset interaction

Its between 267-305 that its bad

[dapper prism]

dont u keep orb at 300 after the 267?

[bold quiver]

i never tested what happens if u place 2 orb

[signal osprey]

After that you can just max it

No need to undo mana box

[bold quiver]

oh rly? so 307 is safe

[dapper prism]

But why? without PO 300-301 is the sweet spot, anything higher would reset it again and would seem worse?

[signal osprey]

Yeah you still get a reset but the way the reset timer works its still a net positive overall

[dapper prism]

First orb stacks
2nd orb spawns and resets stacks.
they both stack a bit
when first orb despawns it resets stacks again

[bold quiver]

hmm

[signal osprey]

The way the reset works isn't actually dropping on cd but rather dropping on cd as long as current orb has like 10-15 seconds or less

[bold quiver]

i think i dropped 2 wings

wtf

[signal osprey]

Once you get talent high enough its possible to get so much duration that you can exceed that 10-15 seconds so you get a longer total orb duration even though you still reset

[bold quiver]

but the multiplier on top of the orb isnt the most important factor?

so wouldnt seeing a reset on a 800 stack orb be bad?

[signal osprey]

It is but you get a higher orb count even with the reset

[bold quiver]

ohhh so it resets but the count technicaly keeps going?

[dapper prism]

idk the math doesnt math for me

im confused

[signal osprey]

I'm bad at explaining it i guess lol

[bold quiver]

idk we might just be dumb

[signal osprey]

I promise 305+ is good though

[dapper prism]

Since 300 is the perfect cycle with barely a fraction of a second ovderlap
and 307 would be +2.8 seconds. meaning 2.8s of overlap?

[signal osprey]

No need to reset PO

[dapper prism]

oh you mean without resetting po

yeh if u dont reset it its fine, probabyl still not as good as resetting it

just comes down to gems then

[bold quiver]

would be good if lava had coded those skills to also only be used oncooldown, like w1-w3 skills

my vman is (almost) complete, finaly got him his neckie

lvl 444 so he cant use the divine trophy yet

[dapper prism]

Mine is still stuck on 426 xD

You doing active vman?

[bold quiver]

i not gona lie, idont know how mine is leveling

[quartz moat]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[bold quiver]

probably from doing ccd every few days '.'

[dapper prism]

How high is your GT ?

[bold quiver]

its 7500 now

[dapper prism]

Dont make lustre, stay in chiz until you can go into troll -> Magma

[little harbor]

I need 200 ghosts. who is best to candy on? Void?

[dapper prism]

Usually, yes, but also depends if u cant wear something with him but can with others. Like trophy

Yeh, but then you're essentially making the boots, not focusing on actually using lustre for combat

[quartz moat]

I was thinking what i should make after lustre since i didnt really know what armor to aim for. Ill try to go for troll later in the future , thank you, ill keep that in mind for my other characters

[green eagle]

Well i got one higher than my current nugget, but just by 5k

[jolly talon]

is there a way to get third preset?

[dapper prism]

Just by 5k...
Mine went 10k, 13k, 15, 17k recently 18

[sacred monolith]

Gaming really does need a balance to the weighting of the nugget rolls

[prisma vigil]

Is construction speed giving us anything aside from it's immediate effect? I've seen talk about maximizing build over EXP on cogs but have no idea why (aside from high level tower production)

[edgy osprey]

Lol, twice in the same 50... What's the chance again?

[dapper prism]

EXP > BR, always

[bold quiver]

is this trapp eff too low

[scenic bluff]

does anyone know if leveling up Sailing over 50 drops divinity pearl cause i got flutterbis on my character but no pearl

[gray thicket]

I was looking for this, thanks

[green eagle]

mine is the fact that i have two barbarians, just one is a BB. i've been keeping my 2nd barb at barb on the off chance that BB upgrade is fantastic, or if he actually splits the elites at some point. my 2nd barb is dreadfully weak due to no elite class bonus skills

[dapper prism]

That sounds like a little shot in the leg o.o

[green eagle]

finally got nobi all the way to 100

[glacial venture]

reason for it?

[dawn pelican]

if the BB upgrade does end up being good, why would you want to hold back your barb in the meantime? you arent benefiting from doing it at all whether it gets the upgrade or not. and besides, he wont split the classes now that everybody has made all their characters, and he has told us what classes are to come. even if he does, which is unlikely, just use an elite swap token

[little pagoda]

Why not use class swap and go DK? Sounds better than expecting for something that might never happen

It is true BB class advancement might make it worth having 2, but then you can just class swap it again

[daring ravine]

Im sure theres gonna be a npc in w6 that gives you a free subclas changer for the new classes

[green eagle]

there are going to be more classes in the future, that is confirmed. the point of "already making them" doesn't matter much as he will add new slots either way

[little pagoda]

Doubt it, but getting the gems for it isn't the end of the world, I'm sure it will be in limited shop around that time

[glacial venture]

just give us more char slots

[dawn pelican]

we arent getting new classes in w6 according to lavas roadmap (i think)

[daring ravine]

No 3 new skills then

[dapper prism]

He's apparently on stream said he wants other ways to switch them

[daring ravine]

Which makes w6 dry

[dawn pelican]

yh if he did for whatever reason split the classes, he would give us swap tokens for free

[last quiver]

How big are your guys oak samples?

[dapper prism]

1b

[little pagoda]

Yeah maybe that could happen if switching classes becomes important

[dawn pelican]

idk im pretty sure thats what it said. but im sure hell balance it around that, and have like classless skills or smth

[little pagoda]

Splitting classes could happen but only if we get 2 more character slots, so we can have 3 of each at least

Uh, 4 of each

So 3 more slots

[green eagle]

you assume way too much with that. he didn't even have swap tokens until recently

[dawn pelican]

and another for vman

[little pagoda]

Yeah, I would like to see vman split between skilling and fighting

[green eagle]

you mean like this

[dawn pelican]

well he wouldnt split the classes cause thats stupid, but if he did it really wouldnt be out of reason to give away swap tokens. besides, hes not making a class split anytime soon, if he does, which he wont

[little pagoda]

Nah, I mean a vman subclass that can actually kill stuff effectively

So you can make better use of all his drops multipliers

[green eagle]

he already does kill stuff effectively

[little pagoda]

No because he can't respawn stuff pluss his damage is weak compared to others

[dawn pelican]

if you do afk respawn abilities dont matter

[little pagoda]

Yes, but I mean active

[green eagle]

his dmg bar sure, but he has some of the highest single target dmg in the game atm

[little pagoda]

You never crystal farm on a vman despite his amazing crystal spawn rate

[green eagle]

you actually do, if you don't that is on you

you need to for his ccd skill

[little pagoda]

Only for levels on him, not for drops

[green eagle]

skill levels on him = dmg

[little pagoda]

But if you think crystal farming on vman is better than DK go ahead lol

[green eagle]

i'm not saying he is who you use to crystal farm, i'm saying you have to

[little pagoda]

Yes, for leels

levels

[dawn pelican]

even with damage out the window (cause obviously there comes a point with damage that you dont need it), the lack of respawn ability makes it a lot harder, which is why other classes are usually favoured. but im sure you could still easily pull it off

[dapper prism]

There's essentially 3 options i can think of:

• A) 3 new subclasses for w6 (not on roadmap but a suprise) with that there's 6 elites, 3 for W7, 3 for W8. So each world has 3 alts for the skills as it currently "is"

• B) No talent benefits for W6 or maybe some tweaks on current classes, with 6 elites. that would be 1 elite on the side of each subclass. So a barb would go into BB or 2nd option etc.

• C) No talent benefits for W6 or maybe some tweaks on current classes, with what i'll just call MasterElites (promotions ontop of elites), keeping it linear like Barb into BB into new class.

Either way with the apparent mentions of there being 13 slots at the end. We'd have wither A), 1 of everyone. B) still 1) of everyone, C) 2x of 6 MasterElites + vman+)

Whatever option, everything has a pro and con, and either way there will either need to be subclass or elite rerolls so people can fix things up.

[little pagoda]

If there was no DK, bubo would still be better than him, but if there was no DK and bubo, maybe vman would win

[dawn pelican]

ill be honest im talking theory here ive never crystal farmed and have no vman

[little pagoda]

My crystal spawn chance on vman is 1 in 12 but it's still wrose than bubo and dk because he's much slower at killing

Only single target and his aoe talent has a long cooldown, plus no respawn really makes it not worth

[young burrow]

is there any way to check which skill was affected by mman crystal countdown?

[dapper prism]

both on IE and Toolbox

[little pagoda]

You only kill crystals on him for massive xp and for crystal countdown if you want to push skills

I'm saying a vman specialized in fighting with some sort of respawn mechanic would be crazy and I would like to see it

[dawn pelican]

or maybe there is possibility of there just being no classes for them. i dont know if that alone would work, but if he tailored the skills and progression to it well enough i reckon he could pull it off

[little pagoda]

But also vman is mostly skilling so he would need a class advancement for that too

[green eagle]

why are you arguing the same thing? i'm well aware that other classes farm crystals better. vman HAS TO farm crystals, if you don't do it on him you are wasting his only potential as well as making skilling on him harder than it has to

[dapper prism]

-80% xp per level can be pretty nice

[green eagle]

you do have an mman i assume though, correct?

[dawn pelican]

yeah vman is more the family guy, the 'support class' maybe. i dont think it needs to change cause it operates. but to see a split in vman's classes to a fighter or a class simmilar to vman would be cool

[dawn pelican]

yh

[green eagle]

at one point in time a long time ago lava has said that beginner line will be the strongest class line in the game, both for skilling and dmg. that remains to be seen however.

[acoustic karma]

Hey, does anyone know why my kills per hour on my bowman suck so much even though my damage isnt lower than on my other chars?

[dawn pelican]

yeah that makes sense, didnt know you meant that. again as i said im just talking theory, which i do know, but havent experienced in game yet

[little pagoda]

Might happen at some point lol

[green eagle]

you should be utilizing CCD then to make his skill levels easier to get

[dawn pelican]

is it bowman or seige breaker

[acoustic karma]

siege breaker*

[dawn pelican]

as i said i havent started crystal farming and i dont have the stuff to start

[green eagle]

afk % probably

or you don't have skills equipped maybe

[vale wadi]

get your highest dps on a beginner, why does a voidwalker not count?

[green eagle]

we'll see. he said that when he introduced mman lol

[dawn pelican]

yeah its effected by a lot of stats, check all your other stats are on par with your other characters

i have the guaranteed spawns, but not the island for a while and only 1 star poop and genie

[oak hemlock]

Choose prayers for multi or deathnote,chips in lab for resp, cards for afk gain

[dawn pelican]

maybe, ive got a lot more on my plate, ive essentially just started w5

[dapper prism]

Anyone else constantly accidentally delete a good obol?
Clicking anywhere to the right of this line wil scroll you down, meaning if you double click or click fast, you delete your good obols
https://i.imgur.com/1kqjKn0.png

[acoustic karma]

hmm even after i swapped some gear around he still has 1 third of the kills from my es

[dapper prism]

I deleted another mining one 😦

[little pagoda]

I never have good obols on inventory, always equipped on someone

[dapper prism]

Not camping my skilling obols, that would seem a bit inefficient :/

[little pagoda]

I mean if you are at a point where you have fighting obols for every single characters it's kinda unavoidable

[dapper prism]

Yup, only one(s) i camp is bm trap. dk2 con xp, and es2 worship. wouldn't want my skill obols on 2nd page anyways

[little pagoda]

And I guess mining is a problem since Dk will usually have construction equipped

[cyan pond]

What crstal spawn chance should i be getting before farming statues?

[little pagoda]

4 star poop, 4 star genie and maxes PO box, at least

[dapper prism]

Choco chip is more important.
But you should easily get better than 1/50

[little pagoda]

And maxed crystal 4 days star talent

[cyan pond]

ok ty 🙂

[dapper prism]

My dk is on DR with ES

won't be switching DR back and forth

[little pagoda]

Stamp helps a bit too if you can push that

[heavy moth]

feeels good to one shot even on sb

[little pagoda]

I switch lol

Obol swapping between character would be goated

[dapper prism]

My Obol setup atm
https://i.imgur.com/KDcAKub.png
https://i.imgur.com/1mDUiih.png

Usually i'd be using more DR Sparkle (star) obols, but with all the candy and switching around for statues and having all alts on eclipse/statue grind, im keeping it on kattle atm

[barren otter]

poor trickz siege neglected

[dapper prism]

Tempted to properly finish first SB before touching that last one

[bold quiver]

did u finish rerolling the stats obols?

[placid mural]

i wonder if my other liquids will ever catch up to trench. . .

[dapper prism]

Most of them, ran out of frags after rerolling all kattle and effy ones

[barren otter]

i was very lazy with my setup

[dapper prism]

But most will look something like this: (instead of 7 stat)
https://i.imgur.com/BiB6vRl.png

[glad crow]

Whats the rate on that?

[barren otter]

i did reroll all of em though

[dapper prism]

they wont 😦

[placid mural]

45/hr if i take off the lab node

[tranquil sedge]

What's the range on re-rolling obol's?

[dapper prism]

I am dying inside, please on herusx3 switch the places of the multi and fire 👀
Or put them all in 1 row xD

[barren otter]

oh sorry here you go

[dapper prism]

Wiki: https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Obols
https://i.imgur.com/wT3cjND.png

[tranquil sedge]

ty

[dapper prism]

Essentially, blue would be 4, purple is 5 (stats)

[placid mural]

holy shit! i wasnt even farming for it

[harsh flume]

for blueprints is it better to farm online or offline

[dapper prism]

Usually everything is better online than offline, except like skilling cards

maybe something else but can barely think of anything else xD

[harsh flume]

ok thanks

[dapper prism]

Alternativ is to do the guaranteed spawn on a drop though

[harsh flume]

what do u mean guaranteed spawn on drop i take it must be part of a quest

[dapper prism]

You can guarantee rare drops, there's a sheet in #1084911530417606656
Not sure what you mean about the quest

[weary hinge]

iirc you calculate the exact afk time you can guarantee the item. its a spreadsheet somewhere

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure the broken axe is a treasure hunt reward not the tutorial axe

[dapper prism]

Yeh, thats TH

[vale wadi]

is there a shiny of every pet?

and what do they?

[zinc torrent]

https://instinctx.idleonefficiency.com/

How should I progress my sailing, I feel like Im doing it wrong

[tight ridge]

how many total mobs are in this game for apocalypse

[little pagoda]

Is it even worth chowing if I don't need ladled right now? I only produce like 200/day but I have 2k to spare and i have a lot of my plates maxed

[barren otter]

yes

[little pagoda]

Need that artifact for jade plates

[barren otter]

i starting superchowing/chowing at 500/day

by the time i finished i shot up to 2150/day

with all the extra skill eff bonuses that i got over that time

[little pagoda]

Superchows would let me max out harder plates but without the artifact I couldn't do much else, plus superchowing isn't feasible for me yet

I think I need to work more on damage and multikill

[barren otter]

fair enough yea

i started both when i had jade and enough dmg

kinda ignored it up until then

got kattle gear/obols too before i started

[little pagoda]

Yeah so probably more of a late game thing

[barren otter]

well tbh i overly neglected it

definitely can start working on it earlier

[little pagoda]

The thing I really want for cooking bonuses is the jewels, pushing plate levels baaarely help since they're all at around level 20

And some at 30

[little pagoda]

Yeah I did a few chows, enough to push my efficiency a bit

I can go and try to do w1, depends how his kills per hour is, I'll check later

[untold saffron]

One Eclipse Skull per day is a reasonable pace to go around doing them in right?

Trying to avoid burning all my candy

[upbeat falcon]

That's good pace IMO

[little pagoda]

From a mid game perspective, is crystal island decenrt for candy? How many hrs of candy do people get there per day?

[upbeat falcon]

you have 9 other characters you can work on in that time

AFAIK it's only worth late game, and as your last unlock

[little pagoda]

idk, I think shimmer is even less useful for me

A little bit of skill efficiency and that's it

[upbeat falcon]

Shimmer is going to take time to upgrade, but it's better to get started soon

[barren otter]

shimmer has been dogshit for me

[signal osprey]

Shimmer is a lot more valuable over time

[upbeat falcon]

^^^

[barren otter]

but its not like crystal wouldve been anymore useful

so even if you got shit shimmer trials it would still be better than crystal

[little pagoda]

Ok but how many candies? 10hrs per day? I would consider that worth

[untold saffron]

I didn't think there was any debate on island order at this point, it seems pretty clear cut

[upbeat falcon]

I don't have that island because Lava advised to go for it last

[little pagoda]

I just think people don't care about crystal because they have thousands of candies

[signal osprey]

No its because its just not worth it lol

I use all my candy regularly I'm broke af

[barren otter]

its more so the fact that you can get the candies in so many other areas

[untold saffron]

It's more the benefit of starting time gated activities ASAP and candy being plentiful from other areas

[signal osprey]

Doesn't make crystal not worse than other options though

[barren otter]

idr what candy rates looked like at mid game

but im almost positive the amount of giants you kill in a week matches crystal no?

lmao

[signal osprey]

Probably more

Crystal island seemed kinda underwhelming

[untold saffron]

People waste a lot of candy in the mid game imo so it doesn't stretch as far in terms of gains per candy

[upbeat falcon]

I unlocked rando island before trash

Because I opened up my game to see the update before looking at anything else

"Why would I want trash"

[signal osprey]

Even then why would you want random events lol

[little pagoda]

That's what i'm thinking, that still means I could double candy gain excluding summer event

[untold saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-trash-man-im-the-trash-man-iasip-danny-devito-gif-15616885

[upbeat falcon]

It makes me sad, I am trying to unlock the random event w/ trash bribe

I've been saving up about a week of trash for it

[barren otter]

you also have weekly biggie/doot for candies

colo

so many other various sources of candy

makes crystal island so bad in comparison

[little pagoda]

I usually don't do candies because the bags don't stack lol

[pearl cedar]

Yeah candy is cheap

[little pagoda]

I mean I don't do biggie

[untold saffron]

I'm about 4 days from unlocking fractal

Still haven't seen much about it

[barren otter]

yea i mean if you want candy

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure fractal is still bugged

[upbeat falcon]

You should buy the silver antique every day

[barren otter]

you shouldnt ignore the easy candy sources

[little pagoda]

That one I do

[signal osprey]

And even if its not bugged its still just shitty rewards

[little pagoda]

I buy antique but not bag, maybe should buy bag and stockpile on an alt

[upbeat falcon]

Biggie is harder, because they don't stack and if you don't have plentiful woodular circles you cant make the spawn right away

[untold saffron]

Oh? I have 3 already from winning bottles in a giveaway so it'd definitely fractal next but what's wrong with it

[pearl cedar]

But you can just craft the bags immediately into eyes

[barren otter]

uh

it takes like 30 mins to get a months worth of woodulars for me?

[little pagoda]

Woodular is just a matter of farming on ES but still kinda annoying

[signal osprey]

When you candy it you get fishing afk gains

[untold saffron]

Kek

[pearl cedar]

Does afk in town give gains or nah?

[signal osprey]

Not sure but can't candy in town

[pearl cedar]

Someone posted the trophy though right?

[signal osprey]

Anyone with a trophy already is a cheater lol

[pearl cedar]

#achievement-pics message

Well yeah obv

[upbeat falcon]

Wow that's very good

[signal osprey]

He burnt through his candy reserves when it candies fishing kek

Good meme

[pearl cedar]

2 min claims in town new meta

[signal osprey]

Fractal is unfortunately just dead content atm

Even crystal should be picked before it

[untold saffron]

Not many people can be there yet at least

[pearl cedar]

I mean even if it worked pretty much dead content

[signal osprey]

Yeah the non trophy rewards are useless

And the trophy isn't achievable

Most players don't have 20% of the candy required for a trophy lol

[untold saffron]

I thought the trophy was a chance per hour of afk time for some reason

[signal osprey]

Yeah 1 in 100k

Ignoring DR

So 100k hours on average

[barren otter]

ill get it on my 1st hour dont worry

[signal osprey]

Nobody has that much candy. Its a lottery island

Get lucky or get nothing

[upbeat falcon]

It takes ages to get all the bottles

[glad nymph]

what are divinity god ranks

[untold saffron]

Just pretend they don't exist

[dapper prism]

ES talent, +Dmg per god rank. It's a bit whatever apparently. i still noticed a difference early on

[glad nymph]

not a good contributor to damage?

[edgy osprey]

What's the best map to farm statues with bubo? Purely in numbers

[hardy quarry]

Maybe if you have 1bil of every mat, 13'd all of your vials and literally ran out of stuff to do

[hardy quarry]

Depends on the statues you're after. If you're just doing the 100k, probably beans for the elevated multikill

[dapper prism]

Bubo is a rough question.
But overall the info for best and who it's best on is on Pins

Easiest way to get 100k afaik is to candy mining, highest ore that's 100% effy

[edgy osprey]

Thanks, I'll see about that

[hardy quarry]

That makes more sense.

[dapper prism]

Most importantly will be, 100%+ effy, and Mining speed, try and get it to the cap of 62. Then also AFK gains.

[last quiver]

I can't break into 2m kph on gmush :(

[barren otter]

im gonna active bubo W1 for the 100k

is that dumb? lol

[last quiver]

bb feels bad to lvl

I think bb is probably the worst active rn

not sure you gain any benefit from activing it

you probably do better afk if you have high afk gains

[little pagoda]

Might still be worth for early levels but after a while it's just a waste of time

Vman was my lowest level, left if overnight killing crystals and it's now my highest level, now BB is my lowest but idk if I can pull off the same thing with him lol

[clear quartz]

highest level vman? impressive

[gloomy bobcat]

Yall. I accidentally used my stack of 22 gold twines

[prisma drift]

This is why I never stacked them

I used a stack of 6 and decided I’d craft one helmet at a time

[little pagoda]

Yeah, but in fairness I haven't grinded levels in anyone in 2 weeks, made lots of progress since then

[clear quartz]

ahh fair

[little pagoda]

When I push DK to oranges it will be not even close, he's 1 map away but i've been grinding statues

[clear quartz]

im trying to get everyone to 400 ish, gonna be tough to get this last obol slot 😦

[little pagoda]

I have 3 slots to unlock still, 2500 is probably only a few levels awat, but 4000 seems annoying

[prisma drift]

Honestly 475-500 is a slog

[little pagoda]

Uh 5000, even worse

[thin kernel]

when you feel like unlucky at the snail... have like 51% chance to upgrate it... it fails for the 4 time today ( have saved up and try ) well time to spend like a week or so.. to get mail for it :/

[pearl cedar]

Slows down pretty hard around 4800

[prisma drift]

Hey that’s only 830 white pearls

[little pagoda]

Yeahh that's not something I'm gonna try to do for now, I'm happy with stopping at 3000 as soon as I'm done with statues

[clear quartz]

:kekw:

[little pagoda]

To be fair by the time I go for 5000 total is probablt when w6 releases

[clear quartz]

yeah im probably gonna pause on statues "soon", i think i need more drop stuff to get where i want

[little pagoda]

I'm not going for w3+ statues yet I think

Definitely unlock 2 more obols slots first, and then maybe other goals before that

[clear quartz]

yeah, i think ill get the easy w2 ones, and skip out on fishing unless i can figure out why my statue rate is so bad

[little pagoda]

I would say juice up feasty statue and drop rate as much as possible

But that's kinda obvious so idk

[clear quartz]

11.22 drop rate here, but im guessing thats low

[little pagoda]

feasty is the easiest statue to farm anyway so I'm gonna deposit it after w2 are onyxed

[little pagoda]

On vman?

[clear quartz]

oh on dk. vman is only like 6 somethin

[little pagoda]

He can probably reach higher, and also more fishing speed from feasty

max rare drop table talent, drop rate talent and skilliest statue talent, and see what the rate is

[terse furnace]

Is chizoar better for Vman than member hoodie and mark of member?

[acoustic karma]

how do i have negative post boxes??

[prisma drift]

Disconnected your lab

[acoustic karma]

oh damn

[prisma drift]

Vial doubler gives PO Boxes

[acoustic karma]

forgot to equip arktis

[prisma drift]

Gotta do more orders

Need them boxes

[acoustic karma]

yeah im already farming with my dk for also pop obols and power statues

[pearl cedar]

Pops use es

[tacit tulip]

zzzzz

[hidden sphinx]

How long afk?

And es or dk?

[hidden sphinx]

Depending on your current dr you could use dk for pop if you’re mainly farming statues

[pearl cedar]

That ES lookin with the circles

[hidden sphinx]

Could be like 20 hour dk

Sexy amount of wood circles tho

[twin token]

Fr can rest easy on Biggie hours

[tacit tulip]

ES, been there about a day

[twin token]

What should I be upgrading on atoms just starting? Not sure which bonuses are most useful

I've kinda just been saving for +10 library and spending points on cheap he atom

[potent gust]

I had to took a few days with low activity but I was able to get the shovel yay

[twin token]

Nice

4x bits

[potent gust]

I just started with it (I had a few boosters under the hands to see how it works) and I can already feel the difference

[zealous niche]

Nug size is one of the biggest limiters in gaming

Roll the shovel whenever it’s available, 1hr from the last click is when the first nug appears

[potent gust]

Yep i'll try to make this one bigger since it's game changer

Let's hope I can get some big numbers soon enough (already upgraded once the shovel)

[autumn wasp]

why do you active ES for bullseye statue? isnt it rare drop table

[bronze nova]

Any tips against lag in the Pong game?

[pure ember]

Because it's not crystals

[pure ember]

Good luck, play more etc

[bold quiver]

wow my highest score ever. on greenmushrom map with warrior

[steady ibex]

How do people get 1b damage etc, I've been stuck at 100m average and 300m highest for weeks now

[bold quiver]

sailing

last sailing artifacts + last bubbles

[steady ibex]

I need to work on sailing if am honest, I have neglected it and not been levelling up my boats

[orchid epoch]

How does the Nothing afk work? I unlocked the island but the dude still says 0 hours but i claimed at least 20h nothing afk

[fathom grove]

People are getting 1b damage?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/C8QI2Zl.png

[prisma drift]

That man clicks bubbles

[solid epoch]

what r u at zelb? 60Q?

[fathom grove]

I forgot to check

[clear quartz]

yay 20k fish statues

[autumn wasp]

i thought it was always dk for rare drop table and es for rare drops

[clear quartz]

took probably more 12hr candies than i would have liked, but eh

[tacit tulip]

typically because what you want is in the rare drop tables for crystals

there's a few exceptions

both ways

[pearl cedar]

He's definitely higher than 60q

[solid epoch]

yeah prob

[fathom grove]

I didn’t check. But this was earlier.

[prisma drift]

Wow that’s a lot of damage

[pearl cedar]

Like that wis

[solid epoch]

prob got what like 12k on all ur stat bubbles now or somethin?

[fathom grove]

It’s getting up there now. If I keep going like this I might have to stop soon. 100k is shadow ban

[solid epoch]

100k wis?

[steady ibex]

What's that number in real terms?

[fathom grove]

Any stat

[solid epoch]

is there a dmg cap for shadowban?

[fathom grove]

Don’t think there’s a damage one

[prisma drift]

1.4 Quadrillion

[steady ibex]

Nice

[solid epoch]

ok pog

[olive sphinx]

Jesus christ that damage

[solid epoch]

can keep grinding quick slap then

[prisma drift]

Was that photo before onyx statues?

[fathom grove]

Mine is all wis bubble and name I guess

It’s from today

[solid epoch]

how much base dmg does name I guess give at ur lvl?

i know u were like lvl 7400 nameiguess a couple weeks ago

[fathom grove]

Not nearly as much as quick slap

[autumn wasp]

if i need bullseye and power isnt dk at sticks faster than doing both seperately?

[pearl cedar]

Imagine 8k quickslap bonus lol

[solid epoch]

prob would be like +30M base dmg or somethin

[fathom grove]

Quick slap would be much more

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/zU4qfEJ.png

yeah

this on vman tho with the big movespeed boost

on other classes i get a little under 4m

[clear quartz]

sheeesh

[solid epoch]

I got no base stats to back it up though so dmg still way lower

[acoustic karma]

does %all stat give drop rate?

[lost topaz]

I find it very telling that even you haven't bothered doing the third snake achievement in w2 dungeon

Really wish that wasn't such a pain in the butt

[lost topaz]

technically a very slight amount from luck gains, but not directly no.

like, completely negligible amount

[acoustic karma]

ok thanks

[bold quiver]

thas a lot dude

how do u survive doing so many hourly clicks

[clear quartz]

the obols chart thing, is the skilling sparkle still the BIS even with the kruk obol? i would imagine the afk gains would trump the skill power and skill eff bonii but maybe not

[fathom grove]

Lol. Yeah. I haven’t touched any dungeons in forever. Especially w2:. So painful.

[solid epoch]

same, i really need to get those achievements done, my gaming is suffering

still dont have the w1 or w2 achievements to say Hi to a ton of people

seems pretty hard to complete without a livestream or something

[clear quartz]

same

[tacit tulip]

you can get them done during happy hour too

bit harder tho

[solid epoch]

sometimes during happy hour im the only person there lol

swapping through 20 channels and nobody

maybe its the time of day idk

[tacit tulip]

for the "don't change servers" one you can go pizza 1 and just say hi to everyone

there's usually enough to get it in one run

[solid epoch]

hmm ok ill try that

[tacit tulip]

obviously just make sure you're on a character that has every map haha

[solid epoch]

guess if desperate could ask discord to have a party at pizza 1 to get the extra names

[gray thicket]

[prisma drift]

[obsidian nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[prisma drift]

I already have it

[obsidian nacelle]

@prisma drift

[prisma drift]

Don’t even need to do it

[obsidian nacelle]

No, finish out w5 DN

[prisma drift]

Oh yeah I am now

I was 8 characters afk at stilt

But I finished all my bags weapons and got hampster vial to 4

[solid epoch]

just got that one complete, went pizza 1 through every w5 and w4 map, as soon as I said Hi in w3 town it completed lol

guess ill go for the w1 now since i just need 150 more

[prisma drift]

I guess true end gamers ignore achievements

No wonder im stuck at Sandy pots

[modern plaza]

oh snap, having lower cooldown on dk is actually worse for orb when you get to that super high level…

[chrome tiger]

I think the second orb doesn't reset the count?

[prisma drift]

It does

It also resets when the first one disappears

I personally reset my mana box so orb lasts 150 seconds

[fathom lagoon]

Btw does a star need to be unlocked for the infinity starsign to work?

Cause it’s hitting some locked stars for me

Wow so I don’t have to bother unlocking those stars?

[tacit tulip]

correct

but if you ever wanna double them you'd need to unlock them to equip them

[fathom lagoon]

Sweet lol

Oh shit you can double star signs?!

Like equipping one that is infinity already?

[tacit tulip]

there's a lab chip that doubles equippped sign

[solid epoch]

ayy got the w1 Hi achieve too, ok that wasnt so bad

[orchid epoch]

Fractal Island doesnt work for me :c cant use Candy and i get no progress from nothing afk

[fathom lagoon]

Ah ok nvm

Thanks brodie

[junior arrow]

the achievement is tied to the amount of multikill bonus, so your eclipse skulls pushed you over the line

[solid epoch]

so for this seriousleaf-ast achievement I just have to wait 30 minutes per attempt?

[little pagoda]

So equipping infinity stars does nothing unless you have double chip?

[opaque sun]

on certain device, game seems to be bugged to act as fishing on fractal it seems

Its fine on some though

[opaque sun]

does nothing if not wearing 2x chip

[little pagoda]

Ok, thanks, good to know

[foggy apex]

is it possibble to get rift 26 yet?

[solid epoch]

u can go to rift 46 for all bonuses

[tacit tulip]

50 is max - with the last upgrade currently at 46

[foggy apex]

ok cool

[barren gulch]

Guys is the easter pack good value?
10 euro for a lot of egg capsules and a 10% dmg cape?

I'm in W5 so the cape doesn't feel crazy.. however I'm hoping for candies from the egg capsules so that I can finally powerlevel my maestro to lv 150

[prisma drift]

That was one of the best packs but I’d say save the eggs tbh

The eggs work with DK orb and will give a TON of candy and stuff

[barren gulch]

Thank you for the reply 🙂

Been having trouble leveling my maestro in W5.. he gets more xp/hr from W4 mobs.
Got any tips on how to rush maestro to lv 150 ?

[copper mantle]

is there a guide for cans? trying for 55 for that quest is rough

[serene solstice]

you need to wait on the island like for 30 seconds or more and then you see in your character menu that it switchs from fishing to nothing then you can candy and afking in city does work but it only counts clean 1h akf time like 1h and 26 minutes would be still only 1h

[hazy atlas]

so divinity, I feel like I want to be on Vitalic, but everyone says Mantra

I have 10 characters, so if I have all 10 in there, they all get 10 a hour?

[visual pier]

does anybody have lv 120 alchemy?

[bold quiver]

the trick for hich alchemy is leveling vman, not shaman

[visual pier]

so is there actually a new liquid unlocked at 120?

[opaque sun]

You can upgrade it at p2w shop, but no actual liquid

[visual pier]

🪦

[mild relic]

If you use a recipe before you have the anvil tab unlocked, do you still lose the recipe?

[burnt parcel]

not currently but it does unlock at 120

[vocal ibex]

Yo I just used all the statues kachow inserted not the drop 20k.. ..

[burnt parcel]

rip big gains

[vocal ibex]

I'm go cry in corner

Be careful

[dapper prism]

@iron mesa Are you sure that both SB Talent and Gem bundle DR Multi, arn't additive together?

[dapper prism]

You get the recipe, it gets unlocked, but you can only use/see it on anvil once anvil tab is unlocked

[mild relic]

Awesome! Thanks

[dapper prism]

Neither... Focus all the way. Read my pin

[stiff kayak]

is it worth to buy all the 4 ?

[sacred monolith]

Eventually

[stiff kayak]

cuz i need to progres in alch

[sacred monolith]

I'd probably rely on the gem shop priority list for that decision though

[dapper prism]

Eh, not really imo. Especially in W5, once you have 200+ tente you get brew pretty quick.
Liquid is probably more helpful than those.

Since you always need liquid, but brew ends very early and becomes "useless"

[stiff kayak]

im on w5

i rly dont know what to do with these gems

[dapper prism]

I know, that's why i say especially now, you should be close enough to being finished with bubble as soon as you get fury artifact (or 200+ tente)

[stiff kayak]

my alch is prety popo

[sacred monolith]

Start active Bubo

Pump up your liquids

[dapper prism]

Thing is, once you active bubo with 200 tente and get good, you get an easy 50h+ skip every 30ish minutes or later on 100h+ skip every 15 minutes.

Those bubbles will be unlocked quick af and the gem unlock will become useless

You want stuff that gives you either an early bonus that helps a ton. or something ongoing that will always benefit you

Things like 2nd row in 3D print = 100% must have, permanent bonus for example

[dapper prism]

Low levels is due to lack of setting up your 3D prints properly and not doing daily CC's

[stiff kayak]

yeah but my gmush print is not that big

• im doing salt

[dapper prism]

Once you have vman, mob prints are the least of your worry

That cauldron gem stuff won't make your bubble levels any higher.. just unlocking the next ones sooner which youll have pretty soon

[stiff kayak]

im trying

its to hard to lvl up mman

so lilt dmg

[fallow aurora]

what does cc mean?

[stiff kayak]

1k afk kills

[dapper prism]

Cranium cooking

[fallow aurora]

ty

[stiff kayak]

is there any method to speed up my lvling with mman besides candy?

[dapper prism]

Active XP is strong

or.. dont overlevel and push lowis if you dont have GT in bubbles leveled

As Trav said, start active bubo..

[wispy sapphire]

i got excited for a moment

[pulsar cliff]

Moonmen, fly card, and I think one of the event cards has active EXP. Always a good idea

[fallow aurora]

778 works

[dapper prism]

its flipped

[wispy sapphire]

nono it has to be the gold bar amount

[dapper prism]

yeh, i do this, can switch out cards, 2, 3, 5
https://i.imgur.com/fsxadCC.png

[fallow aurora]

oh..........

[foggy apex]

i just used a 12h candy and my royal squire guy still doesnt have it whats up here?

[pulsar cliff]

That looks familiar lol. Basically my load out

[dapper prism]

You click the cosntellation?

[pulsar cliff]

Do you have unending on?

[foggy apex]

yup

[foggy apex]

unending?

[dapper prism]

prayer that caps afk time at 10h

[foggy apex]

nope

[opaque sun]

it must be done already then

also if you happen to use any of the asian languages, there is a known issue of many of the count related quest breaks due to game not recognizing 2-byte numbers

[acoustic iris]

My bubo sucks any tips

[clear quartz]

without a comma, that sounds like a solid business idea

[acoustic iris]

Bruh

[clear quartz]

mine still kinda sucks, but i think it all came down to getting dmg high and >200 in tenteyecle

[acoustic iris]

Yeah I am having trouble getting over 200

On 149 currently

[dapper prism]

Fury artifact

[acoustic iris]

Can’t get that it’s way too far

Island 9 or smth

[dapper prism]

Stop cheating for starters...

[fathom lagoon]

Anyone know what the lowest dmg I can be to try cruk?

[clear quartz]

yeah, fury is what i had to wait for, its night and day for the class since before that point even if you onetick poison kill you often have dead time since not enough likelihood to get the respawn ticked down

[dapper prism]

Depends on the mode

[fathom lagoon]

Normal

[wind umbra]

lmao u have 4696 72hr candy

[dapper prism]

5k 72x hour candies.. looks very legit with those stats

[fathom lagoon]

Lmao he deleted the pic

[fast grail]

Also actually having more luk than wis/str/agi? Lmaoo

[dapper prism]

It was a vman, isnt that normal?

[clear quartz]

sus

[fathom lagoon]

Trickz, tryna do normal kattle, whatchu think the dmg thrreshold is?

[dapper prism]

PS: Deleting your image won't do anything... Discord servers usually have a channel that shows every deleted and edited message for that reason xD

[dapper prism]

Normal is only 100b hp, so just check how much you hit on mobs atm

[fathom lagoon]

Oh not bad, my max is 200m

Prob will just take a while

I’ll have to check how much I’m hitting mobs for

[fast grail]

Maybe, actually let me check my vman

[dapper prism]

That shouldn't be bad at all then, 100b/200m is like 500?

Main thing you need to ask yourself is "why am i doing this" if there's really a purpose or just for fun

[acoustic iris]

Just wanna know but what is your kills per hour when you unlocked the vman

[fathom lagoon]

Just for fun/to try out haha

Haven’t vsed him yet and finally got some keys

[acoustic iris]

My g mush kills per hour rn with mman is only 50 k

Need 12 mil for the quest

[dapper prism]

Yeh then it just comes down to class. using something like DK will make it very easy to due moles never reaching anything. ES should be a lot easier too. Just dont do BB or vman xD

[acoustic iris]

I also haven’t completed the first quest yet almost finished with world 3 tho

[dapper prism]

167k kph if you want to use the 72h and be done

[acoustic iris]

Don’t have any 72 hour candies

I am broke

[dapper prism]

The quest before it should have given you that, no?

[acoustic iris]

Lol

[dapper prism]

Yup, shoulda gotten one, unless you used/wasted it 👀

Quest row+rewards:
||https://i.imgur.com/Eg2mdDl.png||

I used my wrong card set on dk overnight 😦

[acoustic iris]

No I haven’t done the first quest yet

[dapper prism]

Ohh sorry, thought you meant you were on the 12m kill when you mentioned it.
You don't do the 1m kill w1-3 on mman, you do that preferably on BB for superchow. Or else on something like ES

[acoustic iris]

I am using bb dk and mman rn

The others are in divinity

[dapper prism]

just remember, mman kills on DN will get reset later on

[acoustic iris]

Es is hard carrying divinity

[acoustic iris]

Wait what

[dapper prism]

also mman would be terrible for kph compared to es

[acoustic iris]

Yeah

[dapper prism]

Think it only falls down to 1m luckily now

[fallow aurora]

2m*

[fast verge]

with 1/47 crystal chance dk on beans i got 2k power over night 😔

[dapper prism]

oh nice

[acoustic iris]

Does the quest erase it

[fast verge]

the farming aint going too well

[fallow aurora]

it replaces everything with 2m kills

[acoustic iris]

Bruh

[abstract geyser]

What specifically should I be aiming for as a person new to sailing, ive got the first like 2 other islands unlocked but idk what i should be going for atm i got 3 caps and boats atm

[dapper prism]

More boats/captains asap helps

[fast grail]

Yeah actually luk is the lowest stat on my vman, my luk bubble is kind of low though

[dapper prism]

island 1, tusk artifact

[bright current]

actually fkn hate that you can get this

[acoustic iris]

Wth

[dapper prism]

Cause your base bubbles must be high? this is my vman
https://i.imgur.com/GONKhMP.png

[abstract geyser]

got all artifacts from 1, need ahnk from 2, and 1 from 3

[acoustic iris]

Crit chance beyond 200 is useless rn right

Imagine ULTRACRIT

[fast verge]

is it just all choco chip?
or i need to work on something else

[dapper prism]

Ancient tusk?

[dapper prism]

except for shimmer quest?

[fast grail]

not insane, but decent

[dapper prism]

Choco chip helps, but must be slacking on DR and stuff

[fast verge]

i thought only orb affect crystal's droprate

guess not

[dapper prism]

It doesn't "actually" affect drop rate itself, but more rolls on loot

[fast verge]

ah

[abstract geyser]

yeah

[dapper prism]

Bad wording on talent itself

[fast verge]

ok i guess the main way to get droprate will be erm

pop obals right

[dapper prism]

Getting boats with speed and/or loot value will help, especially speed early on. Having 1 captain with speed+cloudvalue can be decent to unlock the highest islands faster

[fast verge]

cus my cards are pretty good

[opaque sun]

its a gimmie gimmie effect that multiplies the kills for drops

[dapper prism]

Show stats 😄

[fast verge]

[junior arrow]

at least get a 2nd ring if nothing else haha

[acoustic iris]

What is that

I am so confused

[dapper prism]

This was a little painful

[fast verge]

yeah no

[acoustic iris]

Why you have ruby cards but not easy resources

[dapper prism]

Go.. work on samples and stuff, easy 3d prints = easy better gear = easy stats

[fast verge]

[dapper prism]

cardifiers

[fast verge]

i mean i dont really need to stats him up
all i want is dr

[acoustic iris]

Ah p2w kinda

[fast verge]

cus if i want i can 10x his damage in around a day or 2

[dapper prism]

True too

But, divine hat+feet and stuff like that have DR on it

[heavy moth]

not really p2w cause blue gem are free you can get easily 700 per week

[dapper prism]

Greenstack gems! (some day)
https://i.imgur.com/yPMbVTu.png

[junior arrow]

i mean the divine trophy has 42% drop rate so you going to want that, which you need lvl450 for so yea more damage means faster levels means faster DR

[heavy moth]

so many guild gift ahha

im to much a gamble addicted to stack gemahha

[fast verge]

ok thats a bit far💀

im less then 2 month in

[bright current]

i have the trophy, now i just like seeing the pile gorw

[dapper prism]

I dont even know how/when i get these xD
https://i.imgur.com/tcOVqIi.png

[patent hatch]

are power statues meant to take longer than speed and axe at beans?

i get 3 axe to every 1 power

[heavy moth]

nice 😮 almost 3 years playing and still no trohpy ahahah fml

[bright current]

always delightful when that kinda stuff happens

[fallow aurora]

trying to greenstack this

[acoustic iris]

Anyone have any info on the elite classes that are not in the game yet

[dapper prism]

you dont want to see my stack xD

[empty berry]

power statue 1/9 and axe is 1/4

[acoustic iris]

Like infinityle

[fast grail]

@dapper prism You do 100 catching yet on all chars?

[lost depot]

If there was info it would be on the wiki

[dapper prism]

close to, some 90 some 100

[fast grail]

About how much exp were you getting on warriors/mages?

[dapper prism]

Cant discuss specifics like that, rule 3c. unless off topic chat. Just mainly speculation stuff

[dapper prism]

100-150m ig.

afk

[bright current]

even then, its possible its completely wrong, Vman was totally different in art and skills from what got data mined

[iron mesa]

TotalDR * SbTalent
1.2 * (TotalDR * SbTalent)

[fast grail]

Damn, guess im missing stuff then. most of warriors/mages are sitting at like 75-80m

[feral hemlock]

I cant seem to speed up my vman trapping stuck on 84 for a while lol. Have bloats on 8/10hour trap. Natural gives the most exp?

[fast grail]

Re-place traps, make sure all natural traps on blobs

[iron mesa]

I actually didnt get what you mean

[fast grail]

%more critters and base critters also give more exp

[feral hemlock]

Yes

[fast grail]

Vial, shiny pets as well

[fallow aurora]

are u using maestro transfusion when placing traps?

[feral hemlock]

Yes

[dapper prism]

thought it was DR * (SbTalent+Gemshop)

[patent hatch]

when is it better to have the chest of the divine over the magma chest?

[fast grail]

When afk

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/yNQrLnU.png

realized im gonna lose 2B kills if i do vman speedrun now lol

[iron mesa]

All dr sources are additive, then gets multiplied by sb and then multiplied by bundle

[fast verge]

NICE

[glacial venture]

you killed 2b mobs on vman@solid epoch?

[solid epoch]

yeah lol

[glacial venture]

wtf

[solid epoch]

from candying the statues

funnily enough those nuttos, penguins, quenchies, and cryosnakes are higher kills than my Gmush lul

[glacial venture]

who candies statues on mobs?

[sick sentinel]

For w3 skill statues

Es take long time

[solid epoch]

its an option for people with enough candy and dont want to wait

[abstract geyser]

currently have over 500hrs in candy, imma use it somewhere damnit lol

[signal osprey]

Its objectively the best option if you can afford it

[glacial venture]

i got enough candy too...but my vman suxs ^^

500h in candy is nothing

i think i used more today on bb^^

[signal osprey]

Your active time is very valuable and limited to 24 hours per day so its important to use it wisely whereas candy is an infinite resource

[solid epoch]

prob not enough to do those 4 mobs but its a start

[abstract geyser]

yeah prob lmao

[solid epoch]

esp if u have lower dr or afk gain

[prisma drift]

How many hours of candy are the w3 statues?

[signal osprey]

I think about 200-300 each at the high end

[solid epoch]

i was getting like 80/hr at cryo and quenchie and ~55/hr at penguin

[signal osprey]

Most players would probably be like 400 or something

[solid epoch]

so I spent around 863 hrs on w3 alone

[prisma drift]

My vman can’t use divine trophy or scarf would es be better?

[solid epoch]

probably yeh

[autumn wasp]

can u just do the worm quest for the worship statues?

[solid epoch]

also if u dont have full eclipse itll let u eclipse those mobs

[opaque sun]

For afk only differences between classes are just their dr

[patent hatch]

i am prepared for the grind!

[solid epoch]

if u do on vman ur gonna lose the kills

[prisma drift]

5000 personal damage on 8 characters

[solid epoch]

i kinda wish i did it on a diff character now since im losing like a combined 8B kills across the mobs, u never know if he will add a 10B skull lol

[prisma drift]

Why do 10B when he can do 1T

[feral hemlock]

I dont spend candies just occasionally

Prolly bad 🙂

[solid epoch]

if it went straight to a 1T skull id be less mad yeah, a few Billion lost kills wont make much a difference then

[patent hatch]

i dont use mine often either lol

[prisma drift]

I still need to eclipse world 2-4 so I spend candy when I get a lot

[signal osprey]

No because the quest that gives the statues is after the one that requires the miniboss kills which takes 3 weeks per character

So you can wait if you want but not worth it

[solid epoch]

yeah then definitely dont use vman if ur gonna candy those statues. u can get a few eclipse skulls on the 3 w3 mobs

[willow beacon]

Do you still need to be in altar to gain divinity points with doot?

[solid epoch]

yes either the altar or lab

[willow beacon]

oh ty!

[solid epoch]

if u sit in lab itll count for both

[rapid talon]

Is there any use in fighting in the pet arena after beating level 200?

[feral hemlock]

I couldnt get god rank 3 either way so i think u should stop at 1-2

[feral hemlock]

Not currently

[solid epoch]

or if all u want is exp u could equip the Tranqi style too

[feral hemlock]

Does chars get passive exp in other than tranqi( the 0div pts style), with doot? I mean when they are not in lab/altar

[solid epoch]

just tranqi

[acoustic iris]

How does the vman kills get erased

[feral hemlock]

Fk 😄 didnt know this thanks!

[feral hemlock]

During void run

[solid epoch]

if u do a speedrun it resets ur kills to 2M across the board on all mobs

so if u candy those statues and kill like 2B mobs, itll go straight back to 2M from the speedrun

[acoustic iris]

Why

Is it a glitch

[sacred monolith]

Basicly never use Vman for deathnote progress

[acoustic iris]

Or intentional

Bro why

Why did lava do this

[fast grail]

Losing vman kills is by lava's design

[acoustic iris]

For what reason tho

[heavy moth]

lazzy resample but still gainz

[fast grail]

#patch-notes📝 message

[solid epoch]

because it was easier for lava to set the kills to 2m than to fix the issue

[acoustic iris]

Classic lava

[rotund rivet]

for crystal spawn dk
-box
-cards
-star talent

what else? my crystal spawn chance is so small

[sacred monolith]

Choco chip most important

[rotund rivet]

oww yaah, the lab

thanks, anything else?

[sacred monolith]

Well it doesn't affect spawn chance

[fast grail]

double the cards

[rotund rivet]

you mean the w1 and w4 card?

[sacred monolith]

Demon genie and poop, double those if you can

Also don't forget the shrine

[rotund rivet]

Doesn't the shrine affect any map now?

[sacred monolith]

If you have that rift ability

[glacial venture]

and...talent...like so many forgot it seems^^

[hollow ledge]

Also stamp

[rotund rivet]

owww so i still need to put the shrine, i thought its worldwide now but it doesn't level up

[acoustic iris]

What class should I make my tenth character

[fading cape]

!class

hmm

[acoustic iris]

I have 2 bb

[fading cape]

!classes

[obtuse orbit]

One of each subclass for the six first characters, JourneyMan can be slot 7, 8 or 9. For three others characters you can do Wizard / Bowman / Barbarian / Squire.

Finals Objectives :

• 3 Warriors - 3 Archers - 3 Mages - 1 Secret Class (balanced)

⚠️⬇️Warning ⬇️⚠️

• NEVER do 3 of the same elite class, or you'll be unable to have all classes

[acoustic iris]

Wait how do you even get 3 of the same elite classes

[fading cape]

Ideally It's usually 2 ES, 2 SB, and 2 DK. But if you have 2 BB than you'd have 2 ES, 2 SB, and 1 DK

[acoustic iris]

I really don’t get why sb is that good

[fading cape]

It isn't

[solid epoch]

it farms afk kills the fastest

[fading cape]

But it has a passive skill that you can keep one SB on, while the other active farms

[acoustic iris]

Which skill

[fading cape]

The same one that ES and SB have. The one that gives Drop Rate and XP based on number of plunderous kills

[acoustic iris]

Oh right

You have to farm for that active tho

[fading cape]

shrug The alternative is significantly worse in every facet

[acoustic iris]

Explain

[signal osprey]

Assuming you get 3 archers sure

You could just get a 4th mage or warrior though

[heavy moth]

neglected

[fading cape]

Beastmaster is awful. No active abilities, bad damage scaling compared to SB, no valuable skills that require doing anything other than owning one (breeding skills are account wide benefits)