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[mighty galleon]

hey does anyone know what to spend your anvil production points on so i can vial threads and nails "quick" ? (i have max points)

[ancient quail]

it says: beat wave 50 of clash of cans with 3 poison elders at lvl 5 or higher, also you can't sell towers

it feels impossible

[old portal]

what level to make this atomable?

[granite grove]

depends on discount lv bubbles and etc

[old portal]

but on average what is it?

cuz i think its not 150 like others

[green eagle]

it's typically in the 190s

[autumn wasp]

cant u check on the wiki

[old portal]

aight maybe not the time to prioritize it

[rustic garnet]

I think I'm off on my oceanman statues, any tips to increase?

[old portal]

are critters much easier to get now for us to be able to make atomable bubbles with them?

[rustic garnet]

is this max?

[zinc torrent]

Hey can someone link the idleon guide sheet

Or is it pinned?

[green eagle]

think 62/min

[rustic garnet]

ahh ok

[opaque sun]

critters still hard to reach 1b, but its possible if focused on doing so

[old portal]

aight i guess still nblb for critters

how about mob mats?

[signal osprey]

Catching and fishing have no cap

[old portal]

i can only think of production/mob mats/souls/critters/salts as nblb to upgrade

[opaque sun]

using vman printing and/or ES farming mob mats are fairly easy to 1b

[old portal]

does vman give any better bonus to printer of mman?

[opaque sun]

during speed run yes they get major bonus

[old portal]

so i should use printer during speedrun?

[opaque sun]

You sample during speed run

Not print

[old portal]

aight i see

but how about the print skill? did it give anybuff since vman?

[rustic garnet]

This just seems low

It's on my SB

[opaque sun]

printer brr is just printer brr as usual

[old portal]

aight thanks

[rustic garnet]

should I swap to VMAN?

[old portal]

maybe ill just work on resampling for some mob mats aswell

time to look for spreadsheets for sampling mob mats then

[signal osprey]

Are you using food?

[burnt veldt]

Midas minded for hampters farming ?
10,9 DR with it

[rustic garnet]

yes

I'm using mistle and butter food

[tacit tulip]

ES no anyone else yes

[signal osprey]

You can maybe try on vman then because of his feasty effect plus he gets extra DR

[old portal]

anyone have active ES build for farming mob mats

[rustic garnet]

should I be in DR set?

[signal osprey]

Are you trying for statues?

[rustic garnet]

@burnt veldt he wasn't talking to you about hampters

You will 100% not get better hampter drop from VMAN active, that is not accurate, so don't assume that

[tacit tulip]

two different DR conversations happening at once haha

[signal osprey]

Yeah get just enough efficiency for 100% then go afk > DR

[green eagle]

get afk stuff if you want statues, more important is afk % and 100% effi

[rustic garnet]

ok ty

I'll try that now

VMAN better anyway, easier to set him up for that

[green eagle]

i did it with my sb, used the chance to finish rubying my catching cards. i was getting much more statues than 90 for that though

it took me roughly 400 hours worth of candy

[old portal]

how many cards needed for ruby statue?

[left igloo]

Does the duplicate onyx chisels on alts have any use?

[green eagle]

there are no ruby statues

i was making my catching cards ruby

[old portal]

MB talking about ruby cards

how much cards for ruby cards

[green eagle]

depends on the card

[signal osprey]

I haven't even done mine yet so I can't really give any input into how fast you can candy them

[old portal]

aight i see

i cant reach it yet since i only deal 20b damage

[green eagle]

the quest is very important to do at least 2 times though, you'd probably wanna do it on all 10 at some point too, as it gives 10k kachow and skilling exp trophies each time you finish it, so you need 20k each for the onyx and then you can use 80k to level up the statues easily

[green eagle]

reach what?

[old portal]

max rift for the ruby cards

[green eagle]

oh nvm the rift

[old portal]

they said i need 120b damage

i can prolly get 50b damage at max rn

[green eagle]

depends on your character for that as well, but some need at least 120b

ES and bubo (bubo with vial and poison injection build) can do it with the least amount of dmg

[sacred verge]

120b dmg for what?

[old portal]

yeah i need to get w5 armors aswell but no luck with shoe recipe

[green eagle]

rift for ruby cards

[signal osprey]

It needs to be 120b ES because its the wormhole stage

[sacred verge]

i think i did it with less

[signal osprey]

Other pre 46 stages need maybe 80b or so

[sacred verge]

but cant say 100%

[old portal]

aight then ill try doing it

[signal osprey]

It could maybe be done with less now that slug exists for higher attack talent levels

[sacred verge]

i got way over 60 aswell

without a struggle

[signal osprey]

And also onyx gives us huge crit damage too if you farm the kachows

I wouldn't be surprised if like 100b or so would be enough now

[old portal]

well i dont have eldritch fury arti yet since its 0.05% for me

so iam not farming for that

[green eagle]

you need to, that % never goes down

eldritch are not farmed so much as happen

[signal osprey]

Fury is half the reason sailing is even good

[old portal]

ow so it stays at 0.05%

[signal osprey]

Nothing else you're farming is more important

[green eagle]

it took me weeks for Efury, and i'm currently on over 1.5months on my current arti

[old portal]

aight time to farm em up with SB skill

if i claim for every like 5+ hrs should i get sb skill or nah

[rustic garnet]

my DR on my VMAN seems quite low

I do get double the statues at least

[signal osprey]

Thats not a bad rate at all

[rustic garnet]

k

[signal osprey]

Just over 100 hours total

[rustic garnet]

taking this opp to get my catching cards to ruby too

[signal osprey]

All 4 W2 bugs have the same statue drop chance so you can pick any of them for the cards

[rustic garnet]

yeah I noticed that

I'm ru nning out of mistleberries though

so that doesn't make this fun

[opaque sun]

went with fruitflies to fuel into fmj a bit

[rustic garnet]

my FMJ is already 200

[modern plaza]

these world 5 statues are gonna take awhile lol

[opaque sun]

thats only

[signal osprey]

Need probably like 1k fmj or so for max shimmer trial

[rustic garnet]

Is there any food tricks to get the full candy value for only like 1 of the mistleberries?

[rustic garnet]

oh interesting

[green eagle]

you pretty much should never use NELS unless you're gone for days, and even then quantity > quality when it comes to sailing

[rustic garnet]

defense coming up?

[signal osprey]

Just equip 1 of the food at a time and it lasts for the entire candy duration

[opaque sun]

having doot basically makes it impossible to use food

If no doot (sheepie) you can use the food conserve bubble

[rustic garnet]

and don't have any in the bank, right?

as it auto refills?

[green eagle]

stop it with that, mistleberries are much more important for sampling than getting the statues lol

[signal osprey]

I turn off auto refill personally

[rustic garnet]

I hve 400 saved

yeah feeling like auto refills are just garbage

I wish I could lock certain ones

as I like some going

[signal osprey]

Yeah but with sheepie you have 99% non consume on everyone so it doesn't really do much

[rustic garnet]

ah

[opaque sun]

with how statues are so strong, you dont have to worry about running out of mining chopping foods (can cap with one food), but yeah watch out with fish/catch food

[rustic garnet]

except with rare stuff on long candying

[signal osprey]

Even then you barely use some food

[rustic garnet]

sure

[opaque sun]

at a point where even soul gum hardly depletes

[rustic garnet]

the mistles are just noticeable because I have 400 of them

hmm

[signal osprey]

Just equip 1 and use a big candy to get the most value from it

[rustic garnet]

I should probably rubify all my catching

[green eagle]

w4 will laugh in your face

[rustic garnet]

w4 cards too big?

[green eagle]

i had that same idea and w4 still sucks

[opaque sun]

Its kind of scary imagining you ate something and it filled your stomach, but you havent lost anything

[green eagle]

no it's just that for some reason w4 cards are miserable

[signal osprey]

Bees are fairly easy but fairies take a bit of effort

[green eagle]

alien logs and fairies are terrible drop rates

the bees and cube logs are much easier

[opaque sun]

alien log specifically bugged drop of adding an extra digit

[green eagle]

"should i fix my code? nah i'll just add in gem items that they can purchase to do the cards for them"

[rustic garnet]

can I drop onyx 20k stacks from any char?

or just onces with powerman unlocked?

[green eagle]

once onyx is unlocked it doesn't matter who drops them

[signal osprey]

Tbf we don't actually know if its a bug. It could just be a really bad decision lol

[green eagle]

my bubo is jealous, my DK has stolen the show the last week+ due to statue farming lol

[green eagle]

true, could be a prolonged sick joke that tickles his joebob

[signal osprey]

I'm just looking forward to 6* cards so I can max alien logs again 🗿

[trail siren]

Does anyone name start with a P

I need help doing a cattleprod quest

[green eagle]

can't wait to buy the gem item for that too!

[green eagle]

where ya at

[signal osprey]

I actually candied mine

[trail siren]

Cookie 9

In the world 1 Main place

My name is archer kit

[green eagle]

w1 town cookie 9, thanks

[signal osprey]

It was surprisingly not as bad as I expected but definitely still kinda bad lol

[trail siren]

Your a life saving

[last quiver]

I used almost 300 ladles to unlock all of the w5 recipes

[rustic garnet]

not bad

[green eagle]

the alien logs?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[green eagle]

i'm sorry for the candy that was slaughtered on that day

[signal osprey]

It was probably around the same amount used for 20k of the W3 statues

Maybe a little more

[green eagle]

it's funny how i used to hoard candy, and now i can't get rid of it fast enough

not having to manage bubbles anymore makes giant farming each week not even a bother

[signal osprey]

I was expecting like 800 hours or something though so I was pretty happy with what I got lol

[hidden sphinx]

You finished all the quests that require a giant mob kill

[green eagle]

that's nice. who were the easiest to farm that statues on? i'm doing w3 after i finish w2

[green eagle]

yes i've done them all twice

[hidden sphinx]

Why’d you candy w3 statues and not ES?

[green eagle]

why?

[signal osprey]

Vman should be fastest i assume but I don't think it will be a large margin

[hidden sphinx]

Just cause I’m getting to the point not that im planning on doing every quest on every char

I leave giant spawn on

So by the time I get round to needing to do the quests that require a giant mob kill its like a 1/500k spawn rate

Then forget to turn it off before week reset

[green eagle]

it's a good feat to do, i know i need to. just don't feel like it yet

[glacial venture]

are you me@hidden sphinx?^^

[hidden sphinx]

W3 is the worst imo

[signal osprey]

Because DK is a significantly more valuable use of active time than ES so I avoid wasting time on ES as much as I can

[hidden sphinx]

Just a lot of finicky thing to do

[signal osprey]

Candy is an infinite resource. Active time is limited to 24 hours per day

[glacial venture]

if i candy on dk...does it affect building too?

[hidden sphinx]

I can’t imagine ES takes long on w3 statues tho

[signal osprey]

Its close to a day per statue

[hidden sphinx]

But I do get that

Ooof

[signal osprey]

Yeah ill gladly burn candy to avoid half a week of ES

[glacial venture]

soon i have done the dreadful w5 statues...

[hidden sphinx]

I’ve been using up my candies as I get them

[green eagle]

it would be nice, but no

[hidden sphinx]

Finally got all the starfire and dreadlo bars for full magma sets

[glacial venture]

thats easy

[green eagle]

w5 isn't terrible per se with dk at wurms at least! lol

[hidden sphinx]

Woulda been cheaper if I got my mush kills over 2.36 mill/hr

[glacial venture]

just candy on sb

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah I just probs shoulda waited to increase kills/hr. Would get like 3/4k starfire bars per candy

[glacial venture]

i get around 700-800 orbs with a dr of 14...still feels bad..especially the sailing statues lack behind

[hidden sphinx]

I’m glad I saw that candying with the talent only counts as 1hour worth of gains no matter the candy

[green eagle]

i will probably get the first two to ruby before i get the last to plat lmao

[hidden sphinx]

Sucks that my dk still gotta kill 7mill crawlers to get to wurms

[glacial venture]

its more the point that it wont refill till you claim

you have other chars at wurms?

otherwise...wurms are a big stepup to crawlers

[hidden sphinx]

Not sure what would be better, farm all the w5 statues on citrines or kill crawlers and the farm at wurms

[hidden sphinx]

Only bubo and es

And vman

So none that statue farming would be smart on

[umbral tapir]

Do I have to complete the power statues quest on every char?

[hidden sphinx]

I just wanna get full onyx and finish the vials so I can get snake skin over 100% so I can finally just deposit all statues again

[hidden sphinx]

Only if you’re going for 100% quest completion

[glacial venture]

most important part is having good genie and poop cards and choco chip

[hidden sphinx]

Do it on 2 chars at least tho

[signal osprey]

Depends how quickly you can do crawlers but if its more than a few hours it would be faster to just do OJ

[umbral tapir]

Why?

[glacial venture]

for kachow and skill exp onyxing

[signal osprey]

That being said I'd still personally say pushing to wurms and doing it there is better even if it is slower

[hidden sphinx]

If you finish the monolith quest line you get 10k Kachow statues

[umbral tapir]

I ask because I'm doing 1k statues an hour. 😦

[umbral tapir]

Ah

[glacial venture]

the last quest part gives 10k of them

[signal osprey]

A lot more money, exp, and you get keys

[hidden sphinx]

I’m chill on keys for now, don’t have the damage to farm nightmare, and still need to get all chars to the map so I can start unlocking the recipes after kattlekruk boots

[glacial venture]

nightmare is easy on dk

[signal osprey]

Doesn't hurt to save up in advance. You're gonna need a lot of keys

[glacial venture]

press auto and do otherstuff^^

[hidden sphinx]

Unfortunately I don’t have both card doubler chips, only one so even tho both crystal cards are ruby im missing a fair amount of crystal spawn chance

[glacial venture]

stamp?

star talent?

[hidden sphinx]

True, 1.8k keys isn’t enough to even 3/4 star chaotic

[umbral tapir]

My crystal spawn rate is 1 in 40 on my DK...how else can I improve getting statues on beans? (Red star genie, blue star poop, choco equipped, card doubler on red genie, maxed star talents and stamp at 110)

Stamp the only way to improve now?

[glacial venture]

i got 18.6k keys and feels low

[hidden sphinx]

Always max star talent on the char I active, stamp gives 83.81%

[hidden sphinx]

Mines 2.71% on dk, cba to convert to a fraction I just know it’s lower spawn rate than yours

[hidden sphinx]

Max dr as much as you can as well

[glacial venture]

so...stamp is 160...like mine

[hidden sphinx]

I hard focused the stamp for a while

[umbral tapir]

Dr is at 9 right now. :/

[hidden sphinx]

Then realised there’s a few other misc stamps I should be using the atom and gilded stamps on

[hidden sphinx]

That’s hella low icl, make sure your dr cards are at least 4 star and that you have full dr obols on family and personal

[umbral tapir]

Yeah. M DK is lacking a personal dr set at the moment.

[hidden sphinx]

I got 14.17 dr if I include the prayer which gives me .84 dr atm

[hidden sphinx]

Definitely finish the personal dr set before you focus on statues

[glacial venture]

hm..im at 14.19 but without prayer

[hidden sphinx]

The difference will be great

[sacred verge]

hmm im at 15.5

[glacial venture]

might activate the prayer...hm...

[hidden sphinx]

I only have kattlekruk boots, the bubble gives .29 and don’t have the stamp atm

[sacred verge]

which stamp?

[hidden sphinx]

New stamp from trash island

[glacial venture]

but then my dk "only" has magma gear on

[modern plaza]

wow about 1% of progression on w5 statues per hour. this is gonna take a minute

[sacred verge]

does any1 have the description of the stamps?

i couldnt find the new ones

[hidden sphinx]

I only brought up kattlekruk boots cause they give 15% dr

[glacial venture]

speaking of stamps...why can i buy the new stamps more than once?

should say sold out once i buy them

[sacred verge]

why would u buy it many times

ohh

nvm

[hidden sphinx]

+dr, + all stats, +fishing eff per fishing lvl

[glacial venture]

you know...forgetful people?^^

[hidden sphinx]

It’s weird that you can buy multiple

I guess incase you forgot to drop and pick it up

[sacred verge]

i wish they stacked

[grand karma]

yo guys, do you know aproximatelly how much will a 30b dmg vman kattle fight take?

[sacred verge]

so we could greenstack them

[hidden sphinx]

Doesn’t it go straight into inv

Stamps only stop being droppable if they drop onto the floor rather than straight into inv, or they’re a quest reward

[glacial venture]

is there a way to see your current attackspeed?

[hidden sphinx]

Don’t think so

[glacial venture]

dont see that in ie

[hidden sphinx]

Toolbox doesn’t have it either

Isn’t there only one way to increase attack speed for the account though?

Then there’s specific class talents

And weapon

[glacial venture]

bubble

[hidden sphinx]

Isn’t there only one way to increase attack speed for the account though?

Lol

[autumn wasp]

chip

[twin aurora]

cooking ?

[hidden sphinx]

Oooh forgot chip and cooking

[sacred verge]

wep

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah but weap is the base attack speed for the char I’m pretty sure

[sacred verge]

still is a way to increase it

[hidden sphinx]

So the fact that weapon attack speed doesn’t have a number means it’s annoying to calculate

[sacred verge]

it does have a number

[hidden sphinx]

Ohh I never noticed that

[glacial venture]

where to see it?

[sacred verge]

8 as you can see

[rustic garnet]

Now that we get like 250% extra statue deposits... it may be more worth farming statues

[glacial venture]

with number we dont mean number on weapon

[hidden sphinx]

Worth having someone farm fishing statues indefinitely for sure

[glacial venture]

since attackspeed has a limit..we wabt to know if we reached it or not

[hidden sphinx]

Or just candy them all the time

[rustic garnet]

why fishing?

[hidden sphinx]

It does?

[hidden sphinx]

Most annoying skill statue to farm

Have to catch on w2 mobs only

[rustic garnet]

right, but why would you do that?

[glacial venture]

i heard it has a max...but no clue where i heard it

[hidden sphinx]

Greenstack butter bars

Get insane fishing eff cause it’s such an annoying skill to increase eff for

[hidden sphinx]

Endgame talk might know?

[rustic garnet]

butter bars? are you talking bout the consumable?

[sacred verge]

golden food

[hidden sphinx]

Butter bars are golden food

[rustic garnet]

ok, why would you specifically want to do that ES farm though?

[hidden sphinx]

I never said es farm lol

[sacred verge]

dont use ES for catching

[crude pier]

We just have to convert to Onyx once per statue, right? Then there's no reason to keep hoarding statues and we can continue depositing them?

[autumn wasp]

i just realized why power statues were taking so long 🤦‍♂️

[rustic garnet]

oh you'd leave someone AFK catching?

that seems weird

[hidden sphinx]

That or catching

I have doot so I don’t need 6 people in lab

[rustic garnet]

what did you mean first time?

[hidden sphinx]

Just leave someone catching or mainly use candy for catching

[rustic garnet]

right, seems low in value I guess

with the only goal higher fishing?

what's the purpose of raising your fishing Eff?

[hidden sphinx]

That and an extra greenstack

[rustic garnet]

(fun is fine)

[hidden sphinx]

Better samples for fishing

[rustic garnet]

greenstack, ok, sure, if you're onto golden food greenstacking

but sampling to what end?

[hidden sphinx]

I’m into greenstacking

[rustic garnet]

ok fine, but what's the goal with fishing sampling?

I mostly: Don't bother with fishing sampling outside of the initial 1 bill stack for any bubble

[signal osprey]

Upgrading bubbles

[hidden sphinx]

Get 1050 mil gold fish print an hr 😂

[rustic garnet]

yeah that's fine, is it feasible to print 1050 gold fish?

[hidden sphinx]

Nope

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[sacred verge]

the question still remains if its the best time spent tho

[rustic garnet]

and that too

[sacred verge]

besides getting the 20k and maybe a few easy lvls

[signal osprey]

Hourly catching and fishing prints aren't a meme like they used to be

[signal osprey]

They are very feasible

[hidden sphinx]

Not at the moment it’s not worth time for me

[rustic garnet]

any other fish hourly bubble?

Because this fish one is pretty hard capped, right?

[hidden sphinx]

There’s a few

Atom upgrades

[rustic garnet]

?>

[hidden sphinx]

Where’s your atom upgrade for bubbles

You not built atom collider?

[rustic garnet]

Which bubble are you referring to?

[signal osprey]

What does the atom collider have to do with upgrading fish bubbles lol

[rustic garnet]

yeah I am very confused

[hidden sphinx]

Unless I’m printing over 1B of a fish an hr I’m gunna use atom upgrades for the bubble

[rustic garnet]

right, that's just not quite right though

so the question I had was: What other fish bubbles would fit the hourly click

as the one I listed is pointless

as it hard caps fast

i.e. you could do it, but the end result is less than 1% DR

[hidden sphinx]

There’s 6 bubbles that use fish

[signal osprey]

Besides stats and hammer all hourly clicks cap fast

You do them anyway because hourly clicks are basically free

[hidden sphinx]

Nah hard cap is lvl 5634 or something like that

[rustic garnet]

Match, yes, but 95% cap is way less, and that's less than 1% DR difference

[paper sail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738868424813445172/1082675274593869834/AS_Cap.png Good luck

[hidden sphinx]

Difference between hard cap and soft cap

[rustic garnet]

so all of the fish bubbles are pretty much low value

is my point

like SUPER low ROI

[hidden sphinx]

My goal is to hard cap all bubbles and stamps with a hard cap

[rustic garnet]

ok, neat

[hidden sphinx]

Some will be impossible to hard cap

[signal osprey]

Low value is better than no value

[rustic garnet]

terrible result from that

[signal osprey]

Most hourly clicks are low value

[little harbor]

Is this saying i can already evolve a 5th level? Looks like i have never gotten one. Am i harvesting too soon?

[rustic garnet]

sure, but my point is: Surely there is higher value elsewhere still

I can believe there is value to a fishing push

but it's not dropping loads

[signal osprey]

There isn't because almost all bubbles cap

Like yeah there's other fishing bubbles but they cap too

[hidden sphinx]

Once I’ve finish getting all skills to lvl 100 then besides afk mob kills there’s nothing for all 10 chars to do that gives great value

[signal osprey]

Thats just how bubbles work

Hourly clicks are the end grind. You push 1000 levels for a 1% boost. Thats just how it works

[rustic garnet]

ok sure

[signal osprey]

Aside from stat bubbles which are always good

[rustic garnet]

hourly b ubbles that are just straight fire exist though

and that's the problem

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah but am I gunna be getting that hourly click from the single char that would be catching?

Probs not

[signal osprey]

Thats why you do both

All my printer slots are clicks

[hidden sphinx]

It’s not like I said 9 players catching for statue and butter bar lol

[rustic garnet]

no, but everything is viewed in the same lens

if something has value for 1 char, afk, it likely has same value elsewhere

[dire oriole]

is there a trick to doing the worship tower defense

[rustic garnet]

just considering the value

[hidden sphinx]

Check YouTube videos

[rustic garnet]

doing something because you want to is 100% valid

what is your greenstack up to Match?

[paper sail]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[hidden sphinx]

116 but I’m missing some w5 mob green stacks cause I’ve been using them for crafting

[rustic garnet]

ok

so gonna just flat say this

[hidden sphinx]

Gunna get all farmable food

[rustic garnet]

you are talking butter things for green stack

and that's ludicrous

[hidden sphinx]

Gunna get all skill food crafting

[rustic garnet]

I'm not doing anything that silly and I have 152

[hidden sphinx]

And then quests

[rustic garnet]

like, you got some WAY LOWER hanging fruit

[fathom lagoon]

What’s a guy gotta do for a cat hat

[hidden sphinx]

Dude I’m not saying I’m gunna do it now

[fathom lagoon]

Already got 3 wiener hats smh

[rustic garnet]

ok fine

but like legit you have so many easy options

[hidden sphinx]

I literally said I got other stuff to do first lol

[rustic garnet]

getting into 140s is like 'normal stuff'

moving past 150 is super hard

[paper sail]

Is it?

[rustic garnet]

and going into the crazy land of green stacking golden foods is... well super end game and cool

Scoli, yeah

you've done some hard ones surely

[acoustic zenith]

Yo anyone know how to beat the crypt with 4k power petsbut no w3 pets? Also a little w2

[glacial venture]

let me guess...you greenstacked 7 figures quest stuff too?

[signal osprey]

150 is relatively doable for most people with a bit of time. 160+ is where it gets tough

[hidden sphinx]

Who hasn’t?

[rustic garnet]

7 figures is super easy

only 1 of them takes a little effort

[rustic garnet]

the other 2 are 'freebies'

[quartz moat]

Wheres that guide?

[glacial venture]

i didnt...was bored after i finished the quest^^

[signal osprey]

Even that one is easy if you just go to bloodbones with DK

[rustic garnet]

if you are smart, you'd have gs'd this one I think with ES?

or is i thti sone

[fathom lagoon]

If he’s at the crypts no way he has 6 pet slots lol

[rustic garnet]

?

[sharp wind]

clammie w4 highest for statue farming?

[rustic garnet]

one of those 2 is GS'able by ES who hasn't finished the quest yet

[autumn wasp]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[quartz moat]

Thank you so much

[hidden sphinx]

This one is gs able, job application isn’t atm

[rustic garnet]

I think these are my biggest 'low bar' for GS right now

[hidden sphinx]

Greenstack all quest (only) mob drops

[hidden sphinx]

Like paintings, dog bones, time pieces etc

[paper sail]

I haven't done any of that nonsense lol

[last quiver]

yeah I did the clouds

[signal osprey]

I have most quests done so I'm just locked out of them

[hidden sphinx]

I have to wait for new toons to release to GS dog bones

[fathom lagoon]

This was yesterday morning. Now I’m pushing 1T holy shit marrow is GOATED

[signal osprey]

Not that I would bother doing most of them anyway

They require you to use ES and provide a small damage bonus in return

[paper sail]

Greenstack damage is just too low to put that much investment in

[signal osprey]

Complete waste of time

[hidden sphinx]

Completion %

[signal osprey]

Id rather lose green stacks than farm on ES

[hollow wasp]

I unlocked this tab now. How do I unlock the others?

[hidden sphinx]

Poor ES

[paper sail]

🥲

[twin token]

Buy the ones u can

[balmy badger]

I'm at 3k+ royal urns, I'm convinced this recipe doesn't exist

[fathom lagoon]

Each purchase unlocks whatever is to the right and to the bottom of the purchased slot

[twin token]

It'll unlock the ones to the sides

[last quiver]

I really want to get to 5-6m kph on my bb

[hidden sphinx]

Buy one it unlocks the adjacent ones

[hollow wasp]

Ohhh, understand thanks
I get like 3b each harvest so I should be fine

X21 sounds amazing

[hidden sphinx]

There was like 2 posts a day about that on Reddit for like 1 month after w5 release

[hollow wasp]

Is it x100 X21 then or is it x121?

[signal osprey]

Anything that can't be farmed on DK gets candied

ES can go afk somewhere

[hidden sphinx]

UnlovedMage

[last quiver]

Did you do the target statues contract?

[balmy badger]

I'm not surprised haha
This is incredibly frustrating

[last quiver]

bullseye

[signal osprey]

Not yet because I'm out of town atm

[hidden sphinx]

I’ve just been waiting until I’ve gotten higher dr

[hollow wasp]

Btw onyxing statues. Is it 20k per statue or do we just need any statue 20k and all is onyx?

[signal osprey]

But when I get home I'm candying them

[hidden sphinx]

20k pet statue

[paper sail]

I should be finished when I can check my other characters

[hidden sphinx]

Only onyx the one you drop the 20k stack with

[hollow wasp]

So every statue has to be onyxed

[hidden sphinx]

Yup

Need 20k of each statue

[rustic garnet]

here's a conundrum

[opaque sun]

that is why people farming statues

[rustic garnet]

do you green stack statues

[signal osprey]

Never

[hidden sphinx]

No

[hollow wasp]

I see. Best statue farming is dk with choco right

[balmy badger]

Same, I had one guy parked there just to get some xp, but now that I'm actively trying to farm it with higher DR, it's still been a big oof

[signal osprey]

Green stacks are kinda useless later on

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah

[signal osprey]

Statues are not useless

[opaque sun]

Like if 20k power onyxed all, we wouldnt have people asking where to farm each

[paper sail]

Statues can't even be GS'd from what I've heard

[signal osprey]

They can

Just not worth it

[hidden sphinx]

onyx statues for a single 20k drop would have been unbalanced as hell

[twin token]

Mutton statue maybe?

[opaque sun]

your inventory slots cant hold 10m in one slot, but inventory can

[glacial venture]

there is a limit in inventory but that doesnt affect warehouse

[hidden sphinx]

They can, they stack over 999999 in chest

[opaque sun]

Issue with 10m statues is that that pretty much disables the deposit all feature

[paper sail]

Neat

[hidden sphinx]

It’s just never been worth it, even before onyx

[rustic garnet]

I honestly imagine speed and crit would be easy to GS

[twin token]

Yeah you could just farm a bunch of accuracy statues or statues from skilling and easily get all onyx

[signal osprey]

Its not a matter of difficulty its a matter of rewards

[hollow wasp]

Btw how exactly does this work? Do I need to have the ingredients in my inventory? "craft from storage" doesn't work

[glacial venture]

i wish we could lock in warehouse too

[signal osprey]

You get more value depositing 10m statues than you do from a GS

[hidden sphinx]

Speed, hatchet, pick axe, crit, food and health would be easy af

[twin token]

What value do u get from Mutton statue

[opaque sun]

That task is basically a check of your inventory space

[paper sail]

All items in inventory. Leave town, come back in craft, accept reward before opening chest

[hidden sphinx]

You need in inventory

[signal osprey]

You're never even stacking mutton

That one would be so slow

[rustic garnet]

mutton isn't easy

[twin token]

Rip

[opaque sun]

Meaning its a check if you can hold all the ingredient of making those craft at once

[signal osprey]

Plus tbh id rather turn it in anyway

[rustic garnet]

sure

[hidden sphinx]

Mutton is pretty much same speed as power

[hollow wasp]

Mhh OK. Seems painful

[rustic garnet]

10 million statues is crazy

[hollow wasp]

Lol

[signal osprey]

Id rather slowly work towards 750 cooking than get useless damage

[rustic garnet]

Mutton isn't

[glacial venture]

just as info...you dont ned all task to buy all in meritt shop

[twin token]

What abt trapping and worship

I heard trapping and worship power is horrible for the skills

[signal osprey]

Those are worse than mutton

[edgy osprey]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[twin token]

For farming?

[hidden sphinx]

It’s easy to get to 24 but becomes annoying after that. Unfortunately I don’t think there’s a guide for it anymore

[opaque sun]

There are way more than enough w1 merit points to max everything so i just ignored that craft merit

[twin token]

Oh didn't know

[signal osprey]

Worst 2 in the game for farming along with the con statue

[hidden sphinx]

Still no point farming them for gs

[twin token]

I don't have chocolate chip so I haven't farmed statues yet

[signal osprey]

You can start the W3

[rustic garnet]

I'm really not enjoying the W3 statues

[clear quartz]

fishing statue farm is gonna suck....

[signal osprey]

They don't drop from crystals so choco doesn't help

[glacial venture]

if you do half of the tasks you are nearly done with meritt shop

[twin token]

Oh ok

[paper sail]

Least obnoxious of the 6 non-crystal statues

[hidden sphinx]

Honestly I’d start farming even tho you don’t have it, waiting till December 27th will massively impact your account

[rustic garnet]

tiger -- oceanman?

[twin token]

Well I have better stuff I can do on es

[rustic garnet]

oceanman is just candy on VMAN

[opaque sun]

Efficiency apply to worship and trapping on a “bonus on this map” system that scales real bad

[hidden sphinx]

Candy your catching

[twin aurora]

well the next choco chip it's december ( on the W4 shop )

[clear quartz]

oh right, candy lol

[rustic garnet]

I got mine in under 100 hours

[twin token]

Like getting some mob mats for anvil farming money aswell as cards

[edgy osprey]

Can someone tell me where I can find the TD setups?

[rustic garnet]

the active ES versus 400 hours candy is a real pain though

[clear quartz]

the w3 mob specific ones are the real suckfest then im guessing

[rustic garnet]

look up a bit

[edgy osprey]

I literally can't find it in there... Great

[rustic garnet]

they are about 20 hours of active ES farming

[opaque sun]

Its a good opportunity to use candies

[paper sail]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[edgy osprey]

Thank you

[hollow wasp]

24 items is an achievement? K I see what I can do

[paper sail]

The statue per candy I was getting for w3 was such shit.. like 40 statues per hour x.x

[rustic garnet]

check the other guide then

[signal osprey]

Thats based on really solid players too. Realistically its over a day for a lot of people

[rustic garnet]

yeah

20 active ES on 'end game ES'

[paper sail]

My ~18DR, ~2T max damage ES is gonna take 31 hours per statue for reference

[opaque sun]

i used candy not because i wanted to save time. It was because i did not want to gear up Es again for active farming

[signal osprey]

ES is an afk farmer

[last quiver]

yeah, if you're average account like mine you looking at 3-4 days for harder statues

[clear quartz]

aside from doing statue stuff for the next couple of weeks probably, im thinking i should work on figuring out atom collider stuff, debating unlocking more atoms before i try to max out boron, which i think is technically the highest priority thing to do

[rustic garnet]

I've found the 'max damage' part is more important than DR btw

like, get DR

but don't use the worship power

[opaque sun]

Moving the pop obols between characters and moving those dr gears was what made me “im gonna candy it”

[paper sail]

Really? Was like 30 seconds of effort lmao

But I get it. Some days be like that

[opaque sun]

After you done farming, you have to return it back too

[last quiver]

yeah i want a gear swapping interface like the obol

[paper sail]

30 more seconds 😲

[clear quartz]

the chips portion were more obnoxious for me, but to be fair i do have the remote access from anywhere storage pet so that is huge. have to run to w4 like a goblin to change out chips :c

[opaque sun]

And its way more than 30 sec for me

[last quiver]

yeah why no chip interface yet, sadge

[opaque sun]

Guys with dr obols are on different page as my ES

[rustic garnet]

moving obols is a TERRIBLE gameplay thing

QoL needed there

[paper sail]

What if I told you I had POPs on both pages

[rustic garnet]

honestly -- I think we should be able to share all UNIQUE obol sets

like, the goal of obols is to have one of each type of obol set on a unique char

and you got the 'best' obol set from any char

[clear quartz]

yeah i popped both dk and es, i just move the squares+

[rustic garnet]

it doesn't break the game at all

[opaque sun]

And taking off the fomo keychains, magma cape, and pirate hat

[paper sail]

I have 3 full DR sets of obols lol

[hidden sphinx]

Make 3 sets of dr obols, and multiple gear

[opaque sun]

Its more than 30 sec for me at least

[last quiver]

@rustic garnet yeah honestly obol storage should be bigger and allow us to save 'pages' rather than indivual then equip the pages. Same for cards, why can't we presave sets of named cards for fast equiping

[hidden sphinx]

Same, vman, ES and DK

[rustic garnet]

I don't even want an obol save feature

I want obols to stop being a thing you need to swap

[hidden sphinx]

I want an obol auto frag feature

[clear quartz]

"almost" done with filling out slab obol stuff, then ill consider trying to make other skilling obol sets so i have something else to whine about when im trying to get skill samples

[rustic garnet]

they should be 'whatever bonus your BEST char has, all chars get'

[hollow wasp]

That achievement is Hella annoying on mobile. I check Anvil the recipe, grab stuff out my chest. Item by item

[rustic garnet]

iLogix, there is a guide somewhere

on what to do for it

[hollow wasp]

I arrived at copper chest now

Hmm

Somewhere

[hidden sphinx]

I don’t think there is anymore

[hollow wasp]

[rustic garnet]

why not match?

[hollow wasp]

I just do it like this

24 isn't the last?

[sacred monolith]

It was Idleon Companion

[rustic garnet]

tell you what

[opaque sun]

And as i said, its not about the time saved, its more of the tedious clicking required

[last quiver]

I'm just pissed I deleted my old defender pets

[clear quartz]

rip companion

[rustic garnet]

I'm gonna do a simpel google and if I find it, I will NOT share it

[hidden sphinx]

Idleon companion had it, but that’s been taken down

[barren cedar]

Hey guys, you know if when I go to onyx my statues if they are consumed on turning onyx?

I'm up to 17k power statues and I'm struggling to find the answer online

[hidden sphinx]

Idk if anyone cared enough to save it

[clear quartz]

they are consoomed

[last quiver]

yes flint yes

[paper sail]

https://replit.com/@pabhd3/craft-pack-mule#README.md

[last quiver]

FIrst quest yes, 2nd quest no

[paper sail]

That might still work

[sacred monolith]

I found it https://idleon-companion.github.io/IdleonCompanion/characters

[hidden sphinx]

Nope 24 is the 4th one, I think it 7th one was where it got impossible?

[rustic garnet]

yeah

it's trivial to find

I found it too

[last quiver]

I also want an auto-trash obols that are filtered

[hollow wasp]

I am on 20 items rn

[rustic garnet]

one google of the achievement gives you all you need and then some

[last quiver]

why isn't that a thing

[rustic garnet]

Daenerys, that would be too much fragments

[barren cedar]

I mean like do you have to upgrade them all separately?

Or will completing the quest upgrade all of them

[rustic garnet]

honestly, if I could do that, I'd have a million+fragments

[pure ember]

Separately

And there are 25

[rustic garnet]

I just filter the obol drops

[last quiver]

shrug, the frags don't matter at that point anyway, why make it a chore

[clear quartz]

autotrash filtered would be awesome, id feel less terrible afking dk overnight at least

[hidden sphinx]

70 items is “impossible”. You’d have to work it out yourself from there

[rustic garnet]

you could just offer a different obol reroll/combine system

[sacred monolith]

I'm to the point where I am filtering most obols just so I don't have to frag them

[rustic garnet]

I don't think 70 items is impossibble

[paper sail]

Obols are just a worse Card system

[rustic garnet]

I've filtered all but gold luck ones

[pure ember]

Make lucky lads a scaling sell, the more you sell the more you get per sold lucky lad

[rustic garnet]

Obols are 100% a worse card system

[left fossil]

How high should towers be for Frozen TD 130?

[rustic garnet]

Koekienator, such a hard to answer question

[barren cedar]

@pure ember ok thanks, does upgrading them with the 20k stack automatically consume them or can I still put use them for upgrades?

My levels are pretty low for a few of the statues and it's a big price tag

[rustic garnet]

most people who do it are way ahead

[hollow wasp]

70 items is max achievement? Ouch

[rustic garnet]

and just say 'at least mine'

[hidden sphinx]

It’s definitely not, pretty sure we can do all of pack mule crafter. Idleon companion is so old tho that it’s only worked out for anvil tab 3 so you’d have to work it out yourself for 70plus items

[hollow wasp]

Im on 24 items now

[opaque sun]

20k statues is a cost

[rustic garnet]

which offers no info

[opaque sun]

Its well worth the cost tho

[paper sail]

60+ and like 200% from atom should get you there?

[rustic garnet]

fair

[hidden sphinx]

Final achievement is 115 items, but you have to work out yourself how to craft 70 items onwards

[left fossil]

Seeing how long wave 120 lastst atm 60+ and 200% ain't enough to kill wave 130 within 2hrs

[rustic garnet]

115 may be undoable?

do we have 115 slots?

[hidden sphinx]

I started tryna do it on a spreadsheet but too much effort

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure those numbers could get 140 frosty. Or at least close

[fossil ferry]

huh my sample isnt purple anymore even though i have 6x bonus? lab+divinity active and its yellow

[hollow wasp]

45 items seems to much, I. Think I go 34 items only

[hidden sphinx]

We only have 64 slots

[rustic garnet]

90

[signal osprey]

130 is like low 50's poison

[opaque sun]

DK active updating the printer sometimes bugs out the visual

[rustic garnet]

80?

[hidden sphinx]

Wait 80 slots I can’t count

[signal osprey]

Not sure on atom % but don't think you need 200

[hidden sphinx]

4x4x5 lol

[opaque sun]

Its just visual and sticks to that color for awhile

[fossil ferry]

oh i went on my DK and checked and its purple

[rustic garnet]

getting here soon 😄

[paper sail]

I did it 🤷

[opaque sun]

Every orb kill buffs his orb kill printer bonus, and if you like quit exactly at the moment it changes color, it visually bugs

[hidden sphinx]

Can’t wait till my atom production is good enough that I can atom upgrade every non printable bubble, even if it’s useless

[coral goblet]

anyone candy the 100k statue quest?

[rustic garnet]

milk, of course they have

[hidden sphinx]

Candy a skilling node

[rustic garnet]

you do it on copper

[signal osprey]

Not copper

[rustic garnet]

not copper?

[coral goblet]

swear with 1 hr candy i get more on better than copper

[rustic garnet]

is there a better one?

[signal osprey]

The drop chance goes up with each ore

[hidden sphinx]

As long as you have 100% eff node doesn’t matter

[opaque sun]

dreadlo got better base drop chance

[coral goblet]

candy the best ore then?

[signal osprey]

Copper is the worst lol

[coral goblet]

dope

[rustic garnet]

oh ok

so go for the big one

biggest 100% eff

[opaque sun]

W1 ore scales rare drop on tier

While catching nodes are all the same

[rustic garnet]

someone said copper the other day

just assumed it was fine

[opaque sun]

Ask lava why the inconsistencies

[signal osprey]

If you can't 100% dreadlo, toilet tree is slightly worse so thats a chopping option

[pure ember]

I would candy w3 statues first imo

[hidden sphinx]

I thought all nodes only had 1 roll for rare drops once you hit 100% eff

[opaque sun]

Look at card info

[paper sail]

The rare bags are different rates on some nodes

[rustic garnet]

anyway, it should be fairly trivial to 100k

[hidden sphinx]

Ohh I thought you meant tier as in 1x drop 2x drop 3x drop not ore you’re mining lol

[coral goblet]

197 for red ore candy

1 hr on toilet

yeah like 40 more on best ores

[signal osprey]

Yezh dreadlo is best with 100% efficiency

[paper sail]

As was already stated, yes lol

[hidden sphinx]

I need to farm some more candy then

[signal osprey]

Toilet tree is just an option for people with bad mining efficiency

[opaque sun]

too bad non w1 trees dont drop statues cuz its not w1

[hidden sphinx]

Used all of it for finishing skill mastery

[rustic garnet]

is there a hard cap on startue exp?

[clear quartz]

i think im just gonna do mono on es and dk for now, maybe do the others later

feel like my drop is too low since its taken me way longer than the rest of yall

[pearl cedar]

Hmm I got like 20kish for 12 hrs. Would not candy for 200/h

[opaque sun]

Startue exp hard caps at like 25% or something

[hidden sphinx]

If the wiki calculates the affect based on lvl then you can easy check where the hard cap is

[coral goblet]

on just mining?

[gentle dune]

So startue is the only statue which has a cap?

[rustic garnet]

ta

[opaque sun]

most bubble has hardcap

[rustic garnet]

was jus ta yes/no request btw 😉

[hidden sphinx]

The others might, have a hard cap, depends if it’s linear increase per level

[opaque sun]

Only few are linear infinite growing, and very very few are infinite exponential growing

[hidden sphinx]

My goal is to reach hard cap

As pointless and waste of time and atoms as it is

[opaque sun]

See tips and tricks for a chart of bubble hard caps

[hollow wasp]

Ow I have to claim every step in between and craft new? I crafted 34 items

[last quiver]

you enjoy a good hard cap?

[opaque sun]

Its not practical to reach 100% of the hardcap, but people aim around 80-90% of the hardcap

[hollow wasp]

I claimed the 3 items and it's 0 now

[gentle dune]

Yes, every time

[last quiver]

11.5k/100k

[opaque sun]

Bubbles reach 90% effectivily roughly around 500-1500 levels (depends on bubbles)

[dusty garden]

Which captains are the best for sailing and finding artifacts? Speed & loot? Or Speed & artifact? Or Speed & rare?

[hollow wasp]

Crap
Kk

[opaque sun]

Technically artifact + artifact if ship speed alone is enough for minimum sailing

[dusty garden]

And if not?

[hidden sphinx]

Not practical but completion% yk

[opaque sun]

But in general loot captains is overall good

[hidden sphinx]

Rare is awful, speed is only needed if you can’t reach the island in under 2 hours on that boat

[glacial venture]

new orb record at wurms for me...963

[opaque sun]

Enjoy leveling 1000000 levels on each bubble for your completionism 100%

[dusty garden]

So best captain which has artifact & loot? Or artifact & artifact?

[opaque sun]

for pure artifact finding ueah

But issue is usually you want to focus loot for most part of sailing

artifacr captains usually you search for when you are done with sailing and preparing for the next batch of update with new artifacts

[pearl cedar]

Would recommend 90% for pretty much everything, then go back and take important bubbles to 95%. Then just print bubbles that you can print and atom bob most likely

[opaque sun]

assuming you are not at end of sailing, its loot + loot or loot + speed. I just said arti captain as your original question mentioned about arrifacts

[hidden sphinx]

It’s not that high for vast vast majority of them, most around around 5.6k-10k

[opaque sun]

100% costs way more

[hidden sphinx]

Atom costs cap at 1k per upgrade

[opaque sun]

90% effectivity and 100% is huge gap

[tough horizon]

are there new sampling guides yet?

[opaque sun]

Costs meaning levels

[paper sail]

6.41k on final bubble

[hidden sphinx]

Oh yeah ik that, I’ve check on wiki for when the rounding hits the hard cap for quite a few of them

[opaque sun]

100% effectivity needs like millions of levels which is not practical in terms of life span

If you mean like 95% effectivity then yeah doable

[hidden sphinx]

Oh, i swear on printable mats at least the atom cost caps at 1k

[hidden sphinx]

True the main cost issue is time rather than acc cost

[paper sail]

Define printable?

[opaque sun]

time (levels)

[hidden sphinx]

3d printer

[pearl cedar]

Define 1k

[hidden sphinx]

Oh I saw someone say that they cap at 1k atom, is that only for pre w5 bubbles?

[paper sail]

W2 already passes 1k

[hidden sphinx]

I’ve been lied to

[opaque sun]

Atom cost isnt much an issue tho

[glacial venture]

my highest is 6.41k

[hidden sphinx]

It will be if I’m tryna get the last 5%

[opaque sun]

Eventually will be making million particles a day

[hidden sphinx]

Especially that last 1%

[opaque sun]

last 5% isnt issue of particles

water will be more of an issue than particles

[hidden sphinx]

Ig we’ll see in like 3 months when I’ve gotten to 95% on all bubbles

Maybe 6 months

[paper sail]

Limited number of atom upgrades per day is surely the biggest issue

[hidden sphinx]

I might be underestimating how long it takes

[hidden sphinx]

Yeah forgot that

What’s the cap for atom upgrades per day?

[opaque sun]

not practical life span and daily upgrades uses to get 100%

[paper sail]

50 I think?

[opaque sun]

disregarding the the super bit for more atom levels

[hidden sphinx]

So that’s about 70-90 lvls per day

[paper sail]

50 until we can afford the very final Superbit yeah

[fading cape]

I think it's 40 from the main and then 10 from whatever other bonus gives you a percent extra

[opaque sun]

As theoretically you can get more than 50, its not realistic to get that super bit yet

[paper sail]

It's 100 - 150 levels. Getting Larry to 100% is pretty easy

[hidden sphinx]

Ah mines only 77% atm hadn’t acc check where it caps

[paper sail]

Level 501 gives you 100% chance

Hard cap is.. 120? 125?

[hidden sphinx]

Oh that’s very doable then

The 100% not the hard cap

Damn if just been hit my real life

Looks like I’m not hard capping bubbles

[fading cape]

hourly click that dementia. forever and ever

[hidden sphinx]

😦

[opaque sun]

120% cap for larry

[bold quiver]

finaly done

[opaque sun]

Might as well aim for 110% or even 115% for larry

[fading cape]

Now you can go deposit

[bold quiver]

now am i getting 250% extra statues when i deposit?

[fading cape]

Got that 100% snake vial?

[glacial venture]

gz

[opaque sun]

There isnt real reason to stop larry at 100% as it gives +3 if it procs over 100

[paper sail]

My understanding is 7 points total with snakevial per statue

[bold quiver]

would this quadruple thestatues i am depositng then?

[fading cape]

my guess is quadruple

[bold quiver]

cuz i get DOUBLE for depositing a statue that is being already boosted by 250%

so its 500%

[paper sail]

100 base + 250 = 350% x2 = 700% = 7 points per statue

[bold quiver]

il test it out!

[opaque sun]

It should be 7 per deposit

[rustic garnet]

Hsa someone got higher than this?

[signal osprey]

Tony had like 1.8m

[fading cape]

multiplier or total score?

[bold quiver]

juicy

[rustic garnet]

did he say what tricks he used?

total score ElJay

[signal osprey]

I never asked

[opaque sun]

its just dk and should get there

[rustic garnet]

why DK though?

[opaque sun]

Remember to use those skill nodes inbetween

[rustic garnet]

it's all about the nodes

do you get a bigger score if you kill them faster?

[paper sail]

The real question is why anyone would care?

[bold quiver]

i would beat it with bubo and do nodes

[rustic garnet]

just fun

[opaque sun]

Like why would you colo on any other class anyway

[signal osprey]

High score would be bubo not DK

[rustic garnet]

wondering how either win over ES

as you don't need to stop noding

[bold quiver]

no one is fastest than bubo for coloseum

[rustic garnet]

sure, but w2 is unique

[opaque sun]

if highscore just for fun, yeah bubo

[rustic garnet]

as the slow down is the node despawn

[fading cape]

You do the monolith quest on all 10 toons to deposit 80k Kapow!! statues?

[bold quiver]

the guy places an aura of death whole floor and stays on top of node

[bold quiver]

u can try using HP prayer so nodes stay longer?

[rustic garnet]

see this is the thing

[hidden sphinx]

Larry lvl hard cap is 2399900

[rustic garnet]

I'm wonder if the high score is actually keeping the nodes longer

[bold quiver]

i will do that yes, gonna start working on it "

[rustic garnet]

pumping speed

[opaque sun]

I just did the 20k power on all 10, but leave the 100k to progress naturally as i dont need all that kapow now

[rustic garnet]

because I don't see much more improvement over what I'm doing: Which is near 100% uptime on nodes

clicking on meteor+bolt

[bold quiver]

are u using bubo?

[rustic garnet]

no

using ES

[bold quiver]

there u go

es sucks

[opaque sun]

3 guys doing 100k is enough imo

[rustic garnet]

again -- see my point about uptime on nodes

[green eagle]

so close. finally getting around to getting this bubble to atom range lol

[fading cape]

I'm doing the 100k on my second DK while building up just cause. Then after that this will be my strat

[bold quiver]

what about nodes, bubo stay on node while everything dies

in 5 seconds

[rustic garnet]

would be curious, try your best bubo

[signal osprey]

Bubo has just as much uptime as ES though the difference is that you have a decay on your multi while mobs are alive and poison will wipe the screen faster than meteor

[rustic garnet]

ahhhh ok

[bold quiver]

this is my highscore on this coloseum, i hate it, even tho its only 10 seconds slower

[rustic garnet]

that checks out

[signal osprey]

Its not just about node uptime but also having mobs die as fast as possible

[bold quiver]

ofc lol, meteor has a monster limit to hit

[signal osprey]

And bubo does both

[bold quiver]

aura + poison dmg doesnt lol

[modern plaza]

that’s gonna break your vman

[paper sail]

Idk about break, but it helps 🤷

[glacial venture]

not really...but helps vman

mine is 1942 atm

[modern plaza]

wait the lotto chances still didn’t hit 0.1% yet

[bold quiver]

huge

[paper sail]

I atom it on low-atom days just to spend my upgrades but it really doesn't do much

[bold quiver]

i know, its luck stats ;[

[glacial venture]

when i cant atom thrithree anymore i atom that

[bold quiver]

im almost done with atom production, only need 2 more upgrades on cooking speed

[paper sail]

I've been working on the Slab eff/stat bubbles to prep for sampling

[green eagle]

inhales F I N A L L Y

this is a sick joke.

that book took me over a month and a half

[modern plaza]

yeah i got some back to back after such a stall xD

[green eagle]

MK one claim with these

[paper sail]

Don't leave your house today. Nothing good can come of it

[green eagle]

i guess i'll do the cooking one and the jade divinity one next, lmao

[opaque sun]

my giant eye eldritch to complete the whole set took like 2 months

[glacial venture]

dont most accidents happen at home?

[green eagle]

i don't even care if i get that one lmao unless the next round of artis make the bonus of that change or gives something else idk if i'll ever get it

[modern plaza]

yes! the more you are somewhere, the more likely something will happen to you there

[opaque sun]

never know when lava adds bonuses of “for each eldritch you have”

[amber dagger]

Does upgrading gaming pong controller do anything fr or no

[modern plaza]

star talent 😄

[glacial venture]

power of 10 of eldritches^^

[opaque sun]

Poing upgrade does nothing for now

[amber dagger]

I figured but I wanted to ask anyway

[opaque sun]

Maybe later affect gaming import masteries

[modern plaza]

guesses for rift 51 bonus?

[signal osprey]

T4 artifact when 🤔

[opaque sun]

I still use like 1% of my current bit on poing upgrade

[clear quartz]

hmmm, guessing drop% isnt the most important part of trying to get fish statues

[glacial venture]

it is

[clear quartz]

88 statues/12hr candy on dk vs 120 somethin from vman 12hr candy

[opaque sun]

Along with tool speed

[clear quartz]

and dk has double the drop

well i guess vman has those talents that do drops more often, unsure if that stuff shows up on the drop% menu

[paper sail]

You still waiting on the Idle Skilling vending machine to have usable codes too?

[opaque sun]

vman got more dr naturally

[paper sail]

Only 1 of the 2 show up as true DR on your character sheet

[opaque sun]

Probably just not comparing their afk gain and tool speed into consideration

[clear quartz]

i miss ngu, seems every game since has had a garbage stat brekdown heh

[gritty sierra]

Hmmm anyone having issues logging

[untold saffron]

what level is it worth pushing bob to?

[signal osprey]

No reason to ever stop

[opaque sun]

its linear growing bubble so no real break point

[untold saffron]

well, to start with then until I go and atom other things for awhile

I'm at 800

[signal osprey]

I did like 2k at first

[opaque sun]

Maybe like up to 10k where liquid cost gets kind of high

[signal osprey]

Then did other stuff for a bit

But now I'm back on bob probably until W6

[opaque sun]

Mostly people are divided in 2 factions for end game atom. Bob or Slap

[untold saffron]

quick slap?

[opaque sun]

Im a heretic that spends 25 in bob and 25 in slap daily

[untold saffron]

may i see where you stopped pushing the rest of your bubbles?

[opaque sun]

Like 80-90% effectivity of hard cap bubbles

Thats like 500-1500 levels in most

Of course ignoring bubbles that has no point getting near hard cap (eg. Multi ore bubbles)

[clear quartz]

hmmm, 130/12hr candy, still seems low, or is that about to be expected?

[opaque sun]

seems like at least 10 times slower than when you should be using candies on it

[clear quartz]

hmmm gotcha. so either im super weak or im doing something wrong

[opaque sun]

afk gain 300%, dr 15x+, using tool speed food is like the minimum in a way

[clear quartz]

oh right the food

and yeah my afk gains is super low

[little pagoda]

How high can species epoch get? Mine is less than 200% I think

[opaque sun]

because construction has more application than damage

Damage is a mid-low priority stat end game

Also construction exp doesnt take effect immediately just by raising it

If say you had choices to raise constriction exp first and damage later, its better to get the construction exp first to buy more time to actually level it

[opal vale]

Anyone know how to finish divine endevor quest. I have cape from boss and made my scarf and quest doesnt get 1/1 stays 0/1 on both even if I wear them or drop them on ground and pick up again, same with store.

[signal osprey]

Theres no cap. Haven't checked recently but I'm over 800%

[tall horizon]

Equip and go to the mole map

[opaque sun]

Cape needs to drop from boss on that character

[tall horizon]

If you're already on mole map, reload map

[little pagoda]

Guess I need to work on vman trapping and worship a bit

[opaque sun]

Cant cheese by dropping cape yourself

[signal osprey]

That and the base damage bubbles are basically infinite so they're gonna get nerfed sooner or later

[opal vale]

Only scarf goest to 1/1 and cape stays 0/1

[tall horizon]

Top explained cape

[opaque sun]

It means cape didnt drop from boss on that character

Also doesnt count if cape dropped before taking on quest

You dont have to wear scarf when getting cape as those objectives are independent

[opal vale]

Well I think I had that 1/1 before for cape to all charcters now when I have scarf it goes away.