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Oh good to know!
I don't have any prayers equipped
How often do the things spawn for mutated mush? So far only been 1 so far
On anyone
depends how many u saved up, most efficient is wait for 2, it's 1 week
You can check on IE and IT how long till +1 boss
The time is on the wiki
But usually you kill every 7 days for 2 bosses
I don't doubt it
Ah damn okay, thank you
Queen doot
Queen Baba Yaga
@dapper prism you said you did most of your statue candying on ES?
Does any else have an issue for recycling pets? Mine just says contacting server
I just eclipsed full w3 the other day
Still need to actually grind out some from w3 and stuff ๐ฆ
Last ones:
https://i.imgur.com/677L5ik.png
About 50 class levels on vman in 1 hour and a bit, not bad
Idk if I can reach 250 though
Get GT up first?
feels good man
then just active vman with crystal rate
i thought active ES on W3 statues would be faster

Yeah that is a long term goal though
If it's still low, may be worth getting up, can pretty early on get 1k+ levels a day
The initial few K is what counts
That much? I can never get more than 10 or so per cc
Maybe less
Whats your crystal rate spawn guys?
3.43% or ie 1/29
getting ~1k GT lvls in a day is entirely dependent on how good your avg CC is
Mine 2.25% how much is that
I think I need to buff my liquid cauldrons a bit first
You level liquid cauldron regen rate at all yet?
Not yet, I will do that soon ish
I mean I did a bit
Like 20% on each
Yup
the salt lick is underrated
Not there yet but getting there
And don't forget salt lick + stamps
And if you're active, disconnect lab node for better regen
True gotta max that
yea ive used a few gilded on drippy drop stamp
I kinda miss those early GT leveling days. Really lost its shine after about 5k for me
Mhm
1000 egg statue left, and 10k W5 ones and im done with statue!
I wanna push to 20k someday, but for now I just wanna spend a good while decanting
I passed 11k and its just 4 or 5 levels per CC.. Meh
I have 100 goals I need to work towards only been playing a little over 2 months lol
800...
Sounds about right. Mine is over 600 iirc
Is it normal to be getting 600 keys a day in w5?
Even though my regular bubbles aren't that far behind in water cost...
Does crystal countdown count for every skill or only w1-w3?
Only W1~W3
i was getting much more than that
Would be great if it worked for divinity but I really didn't expect it to
kk, been getting that on my active and he only has 3000m damage seemed kinda high lol
Dmg wont really do much once you 1 shot
More about how high you get your orb
like if you have 225 Eclipse on vman for +20s knights
Been on my Bubu
Ah okay, yeh fine for CC's
I need to get that. Keep forgetting.
damn worse than tier 1 
Just logged into my last alt.. and this luck is nice ๐
Was moving them all 1 by 1 to crabcakes
Was going to candy the rest but gg timing
inb4 rounding doesnt get you eclipse
:)
200k off ๐ฆ
Do you need 20k of same statue or just total to upgrade Random to onyx
Is it worth trying to farm the seasaw statue to 20k? Seems massively slow by comparison to W1-W2
20k stack, pins should have info on that
All W3 are a lot slower, same as w1 tree, because they arnt from crystals
am i missing something here? my last three are linked to goat and in lab
have fun my rates are only a little bit higher than yours and i hate it here
Doesnt show in ui when in lab goat
i miss beans
i fucked up, i used the 20k on other character, and the last mission is asking 100k in total
so i have to refarm with DK and do both LOL
You have to drop 100k on every character
680 egg statue left!!!! ๐
You dont drop 100k
darkness you just have to get 100k from monster
not from monsters
so looting from drop table if you prefer
or yeah in that fact yeah mining is the fastest as long as you got 100% eff at the oer (highest ore give more, just get 100%)
Definetely worth doing that on your BB, BM
candying dreadlo on my BB for 100k was very fast
i was trying to make him understand that its getting it not like drop on floor haha
8300 silver pens... one day i'll use em
wish there was a quick way to use em ๐ข
In stuck on rift 31 getting lava skulls
Heeelppwith some tips? Need to do it 2 characters
Okay boss thank you
lol just realized, ive been active and candying sooo damn much on my ES
Also I can't do that last red ore. What the card set to get the 100k statues on mining
yet i never got the quests from monolith 
Doesnt have to be dreadlo, but higher ores = better (if 100% effy) else just compare
well, not necessarily if you dont have the effy for dreadlo
may need to switch some effy into it
Can't I do a previous ore if I don't have 100% on that one ?
you can, but lower ores are lower statue rate. So as said, test it.
Is the 100k statue quest need to be obtained by the same character or can be given by other char?
Has to be farmed by individual characters
Ah thanks
Quest isnt accountwide, so someone should at least do it
I mean i have done it, but i need to do it on other char right to get 20k kachow
Doubled Doot better than double Bunni?
yeh, 10k kachow per alt that does it
Wha?
Most cases, same with candy w3 vman/archer/es kinda stuff
https://i.imgur.com/0zyINnF.png
This was better than Boop
Either way, before hard-candying smething, i would always just compare it once ๐คท
Ahh yes a real expert answered thanks trickz
hey showdowm
Interesting
how you doing
pretty fine, been cooking a lot but not really time to make it amazing as before, taste wise it was. but mostly for lunch at work haha
packed it in a bowl and thats it didnt made anything too fancy
Taste is what matters 
Also, although Vman > Archer > Es should be best for the afk w3 statue candy stuff. May not always be true for everyone.
E.g. my ES can wear 450 kattle trophy, vman cant. big difference making my vman worse
I'll test this when I finish my 100Ks
Guys, my cat is snoring LMAO
Typically, all speed
Speed
You can reset anvil pts when you try and power level your smithing
Ye i just reset, im level 68 smithing
Just be sure to buy daily whetstone in w3 store. Also dont have the stack on you when you click it, it consumes full stack
Yeah, be careful, using a 50 stack is not fun 
who you think is better for cards, DK or ES?
Yup, happened to me ๐ฆ
ES
ES
BM
then im going to upgrade the crystal mob cards first, before getting more statues lol
Also, vman for skilling cards, bb for fishing cards
Does anyone try to green stack frisbee
yeh you can 3d print them
2 early, didnt min max it properly
Maybe should try vman
should i keep farming crystal mobs by dk even if i get only 105 power statues per day
No.. does it sound like it would be worth doing the same thing for 200 days?
like its not like doing something else gets more power statues
But 100 a day is missing something big
Well.. setting up the account properly would help xD
im only 180 on dk
Even without chocochip it should get more than that
Level is irrelevant in this game like 99% of the time
maybe your dr is like 3x, and crystal chance is like 1/200?
maybe
even at 3x with DK it should be much higher
Orb talent level 20 maybe
1hr ish of farming with 11dr i guess not bad
how do I pump up my dr to overcome no choc chip
you dont lol
i rather have 1 dr than not have choco chip
rip me
You'd need to triple your crystal chance
180 statue left... haaaaaa so closeee
idk why am i active farming onyx statues when i missed alot of update since rift is there anything i should afk other than statues?
greenstacks, gmush kills, eclipse skulls
Nothing really came since rift that i can recall
idk if i have eclipse skull since i only got rift 38
you do
how many kills is that
1b
YESS
Gz, now pray for Chems! xD
its pretty bad
this bug on IE?
yea. ie just doesn't have the eclipse skull icon
Either way, toolbox way better for dn ๐
Bro I got this on mobile, when i switched back to PC, my account got rolled back and i lost it
๐ญ
To pump up dr to overcome chocochip, you need like 50x dr or something
So you didnt cloudsave?
i havent tried grinding for 1b kill since my KPH is low
i havent improved anything yet since rift
everything is working out pretty well in the past few days, got the cooking up, pet breeding up to wave 40, unlocked evergreen, got red salt lvl 14, sailing to island 11, all bubbles unlocked, 1B damage and pushing for worms
Nope, i had my PC open active grinding
probably a waste of time then
and then I forgot about it
just uh need the choco chip now
ill just find overall improvements first thenill get better KPH?
whats the average KPH for w5 now?
farm normal bosses and use blue gems for chip at shop
Its much faster than waiting for christmas
i got that like in half day lol, how you get so much?
good crystal chance and 11dr choco chip
i get 200k with bubo no multi kill active
if afk then only around 30-40k lol
so doing 1b kills is now good with active bubo?
can i see ur stats for bubo
where in w5 are you asking for? wurms?
im on one map before wurms
crawlers atm pushing for wurms
well iam looking for decent KPH considering i killed all w5 mobs
https://gladdon.idleonefficiency.com
here you can have my goofy IE
idk which KPH should i aim for
Kph as in base kills, or just pure kills w/ multikill?
i forgot what is the one in the AFK info?
30 statue left. lets go lets go
cuz i think i should start aiming for it for the eclipse skull
i mean you should aim for getting to your goal without taking longer then 2days
if then you need better stuf and stats
whats your SB highest dmg? or ES?
eclipse skull wont take 2days pretty sure
start w1, if you're in the Million's of kills per hour across the board it's not too hard
how have you reached the 5 stars ? or you have buy them from gems?
considering i left the game with gmush kill barely getting 1m/hr
oh its just
Keep in mind the eclipse skulls give you good damage upgrades which helps get multi-kill
oh i see
Could eclipse gmush
its easy to get 1m kills on w1 but is that good to get eclipse skull
You need the rift unlock if you're getting them without gems
when you can get like 5m on gmush is the time to do eclipse
and i was in better power
1M kills per hour = 1000 hours of afk, across 10 chars, 4 days
and thats per skull so still bad
Higher kill, less time
is the crystal mob exp additive or multiplied by existing class exp?
this is my SB without any setup so i guess i can get better kills
have you got lava skulls on all w1 first?
the 100m one
That's definitely needed before doing eclipse
You'll get a lot of multi-kill from that
tbf pre update i only have 500kph at best
ill set this up later my kph is looking good with just talents alone
You could get roughly 2 mobs to lava skull per day
does the star signs get double effect if i equip it when its already infinite?
if using chip yes
Only equipped get doubled, the infinites aren't affected by the chip
if not using chip, it does nothing
what star sign to use with chips on kph i forgot
Should I be farming wurms with DK or Bubo
I heard Dk is better for keys and that bubo is better for money, but that bubo also helps out a lot with alchemy gains so I'm leaning towards bubo
What char is best to farm dn ? All of them at once ?
forsaken, fight afk 4%, respawn
where was the image on all the things that affect cystal spawn chance?
will that be up to date?
i am kidding i dont know where it is haha, i never looked it
oh hey one maxed vial
scuff fixing ill redo this some other time lol
2 big nugget 9.7k 14.3k dangit. i need 27k+
Impressive
feels like my damage is way too low for an SB when my bubo has 20b damage
you are wearing skilling equipment.
If you want keys to start rolling for the boss rare drops then DK. If you're not well progressed in money and have stamps to focus on, as well as a low Grind time bubble level, I'd go Bubo
Trust me my bb is 1b while the rest of the chars are 800M
Aight ty
that ratio is much better than mine and we are talking about an SB
i guess i should start farming Nightmare Kattle, i have so many keys... 5.8k
Yeah
About how much catching exp were you guys getting on dust motes on warriors/mages? Looking like it might take a bit to get to 100
why you need catching levels on them?
Mastery skill
Try to atleast hit scarab on all chars and used mman to help with it
Did w4 Colo always only drop 1 key from chests 
But I really want to know how do you get that many gmush kills on SB
your skilling equip reminded me i forgot to equip mine on my SB to farm statue @old portal
Whats the god setup for once I have 1k account lvls in lab, is it still goat? Or should I swap them to Bear & Afk farm or Elephant in lab/divinity?
welp lol
I understand that, I already can get over 2x breakpoint on warriors/wages on dust motes, was just wanting to know how much exp others were getting to see if i was missing stuff
Ok
Same lol
Well my account was decent pre rift so maybe thats it
Ah welp fair enough
For starters, do simple things like make sure full W1 is 5m+ DN
(or better, 100m or 1b)
ok so im now 1 in 74 for crystal, i guess the rest is from stamps?
Heres my IE if you want
That's what I'm aimed for
This is still way too high
actually +170% statues point from onyx statue. its hard not to turn in all the quantity i have
Trickz, did you do 100 catching on all chars yet?
Lowest was 1/9
how do u get it lower if not from stamps?
Should easily get down to 1/45ish with cards, card doublers. star talent and all the stuff
What is needed to get the highest library checkout? I have gold fury relic
Ah
salt lick gives a few levels i think
It does
Eldritch fury doesnโt increase checkout though right? Just adds levels directly
Man farming statue is pretty good for now
?
it increases max by 25..
Sluggma just adds to your max, but you still need eldritch for the 245 checkouts
Then you get to 300-310 with all those other passive things
Ohh eldritch is third tier for the artifacts
Except for vman
Yes but you need rift
In order to get it
Yea, I havenโt reached that rift yet.
Thatโs why I was confused
Thank you everyone
what do your characters look like? getting to rift 31 wasn't anything too crazy
thats Decent
Probably good enough to get to rift 31, equipment isnโt highest tiers or anything. I just got the second tier of fury.
but you can pump it lot higher, specially using maestro
Been slacking on collider too
How big is mr massacre and kpk for speedrun? Thinking of bringing both to 90%
I feel like im going to cry getting Bulleyes statue
1 in 36 now!
Man I really need that chip doubler card but the rotation is based on the date so shit
on a class that isn't Vman what should the crystal spawn be?
i mean you doesnt seem to be quite in endgame sooo 1:36 is quite okay
got 140 on crystalin
and special talent is maxed
i think ill just leave it, seems to be good enough
with everything boosted well, i have 1:28 on my DK
vman is like 1:6
108 at 3:00 am
feel like its gonna be a long time to greenstack the dang leaves, even with dk going ham on drops. hmm
lets see how much bulleyes statue i get
poggers
i,ll go watch a movie or something
Mr massacre is sort of noticeable despite we have much more mk per tier sources now. Kpk bubble hardly does anything for speed run as its only applied to base kills
Getting 0.5 more kills per punch doesnr affect how fast you go through speed run
wrong place im afk LOL
if active, wood mushroom gives slight more base drop chance
i mean active Es is WM not Nutto xD*
If afk, nutto
brain is fuzzy tonight might just go back to DK W5 and finish this first active
3:06 133 statue. lets see
Nutto/wm are both 1:20, but nutto map makes it that your char runs around too much to stack high score portal
Did most end gamers quit? I only see topbird now lol
behavior makes a huge diff though ๐ 13 in 1 minute, wich on nutto it was 14 in 2 minute (statue)
some got banned over a certain matter i think in the discord
doot controversy took out a lot of endgamers
gn everyone muc love
You shouldnt active Nutto, you ES wood mushrooms.
1h DK Beans, 1/29 crystal, 18.5x DR:
https://i.imgur.com/aBQTxhD.png
ES active ignores bad mob layout, so woodmush better since it has higher drop chance
I need that double card top left one to reach that
i know i realized it 5 minute after i was in nutto map i was like 'wait. something wrong'
You gotta be nuts to active that map
hmmm yeah woodshrooms and the w3 maps i guess will give me a reason to pop ES back out again
or just brute force with candy
How do you get to 18 drop rate?
depends what you are missing but like maybe divine trophy
and buying the gem bundle 1.2x account bonus
Wait what?
That's so p2w lmao
Any reason to not just use these? They are no good for sampling or anything else right?
nothing compared to doot
+0.25x exp doesnt do much anyway
Same reason you dont bother much with exp potions
anyone have cooking equipment build
how to increase crystal rate ~~
stamp, star talent, shrines, cards (with chip doublers)
post office as well
??? I love xp potions
Soo... just use them then? ๐คทโโ๏ธ
k deal
Me too, but the key thing is crystal rate and ACTIVE xp
yeaaa but i don
Something like this:
https://i.imgur.com/xg6xXkd.png
1, 8 = crystal
4, 6, 7, = active xp
don't active much. idle life ftw
issue is food bonus doesnt affect exp potions and that thing. You reach a point where the small additive bonus if exp pots is not worth taking up food slot
When you got like 50x exp from grind time, 0.25 doesnt do much
But on DK there's nothing really else that would be much beneficial?
ok so what would y'all do just sell it?
Do what ever you want
Still want them as greenstack
lol rip
How hard is it to unlock t5 card with rift
There is no reason not to use it, but also not much reason to use it
around 310-314ish
Talent levels goes to like 314 including buffs
lol i just don't want to use it if it's 'good' for something like the other perals are for sampling. but i like xp foods so i'll use it
Hey guys in terms of damage which set is better? The divine or the magma?
but think 314 is only on es, right?
Magma
But for afk gain, divine top+legs
on es with family guy bonus yes
also if for dr, divine helm+boots
just to add for extra info above
but yeah, magma still best for damage (and skilling too)
With that, also full Magma for sampling (effy boots though)
YO LETYS FUCKING GOOO
game is starting
gotta get eldritch first haha
Just remember to do your book checkouts a lot!
Is there any way to make tower defense perform better ? The main barrier to higher levels seem to be unbearable lag and crashes
Singles all the time, often, till you get the 1k achievement
Crashes? only seen the lag on those 115-118ish waves, usually 1-2x bm roots helps until the clutter mobs die off from poison
Past 110 it's usually lagging so much that I can't use BM root, that's if it hasn't locked up entirely
do you guys just bin your lucky lads when you get to many of them?****
yea
Filter them
Else your inv starts looking like this 
https://i.imgur.com/V8J37i5.png
i figured i should stop collecting now haha
Why even storage them
i havent made a divine scarf for all my characters yet so most are for that, and some spares just cause i got the space for now
You toss one on every alt that doesnt have a trophy, and then keep like 6-10ish incase a lucky streak on pendants or max the 20 on an alt for the divine scarfs.
the last 2 1/2 storage pages are empty so i figured i can fill 1 with those for shits and giggles
The strung tooth is going to be the main limiter anyway, even if you only unfilter lucky lad each time you get one to drop, it's unlikely to be much of a delay
if i need the space i will just throw them out but otherwise it doesnt bother me
Then you get 4 within 10 kills like me 
Hence why i said hold on to 6-10ish lads, but either way, few hours of active DK statue grind and gg
2lads in 3 hours
i only need 20k statues of each on beans map right? nothing else? cuz i dont understand the onyx statue yet
is it wurf to stuff all my candys into fractal island?
i just need 10k more health statues and iam done with 20k on beans
Only some as some overlap with w2 drop tables, most important is Power.
Check pins for a lot of info
You probably want 200k power statues so you can do the onyx quest on all your characters
just filter them lucky lads
Also if your rate is actually decent, best just do the 200k power stuff on all alts, so that every alt is on the "gather 100k statue quest" and can slowly benefit/chip away on that
aight idk if i should focus getting statues rn or anything else active tho
200k power is quite fast
idk if 11 dr is good
Crystal rate and choco chip will have a way bigger affect
anyone have the Dr rate chart?
Also until you finish that 200k power, your all deposit button is basically locked in a way
my crystal is in 1/31 with both cards getting doubled 4s poop 5s genie
Never auto deposit, there's a bug that when you deposit statues and get more multiple levels, the bubble that keeps a % on the next level doesn't work
with lvl 19 shrine idk what else to improve on crystal chance
So you end up losing statues
Shrine and stamps are the only things
Level shrine on cons and use discounts for stamps
yeah my stamp is only 140
how many hampters i need to get everything crafted other than vial
10x 200 for bag
9x 100 for weapons
1x 500 for vman weapon
from what i recall, meaning 3.4k?
Make it 3.5k because getting an extra 100 hampters for lvl 2 vial isnt that bad ๐
guyswhich best area for farming statues in w2?
check pins
What you consider as DR Chart? Growtopian fellow
I could make quick look tab with all dr sources
how to get 250+lvl
104 max.
just looking for the chart that give all DR possible cuz the new tips n tricks threads is so bad for me
Theres literally images for stuff and boost to them
Otherwise, try Insight with correct regex
how to get 104?)
Is there an easy way to increase carry cap?
Luck
I have the next to last bag, I got 30% from the mason jar stamp, the stamp for maxing materials is maxed to my inventory capacity
and I'm still only at 180k
Prayer
gem shop
i got 6 of the gem shop, which prayer?
Something like Rucksack
found it on the wiki, 110 at acorn assault lol
lava posted this lvl
He's Lava, yk
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Is the 1 extra frame of flipping cards in the gaming log minigame a bug or is it intended?
Log game itself is absolute rng, no matter if Skull card appeared or not
Yeah but there is like 1 frame where it's a extra flip, and when i press a star card it now is a skull card, i think the log minigame is more rigged than a casino
Ye happens for me too, visual bug maybe
that is because the card flip has nothing to do with final reasult
the visual animation where it shuffles and the rng when you pick is independent. Just illusion of choice
6 at most, though you will lose just few jewels but thats best value for minimum players linked
aight thanks
To hit all but one you need 7 and to hit all you need 8
The last two that only link to one gem each isnโt worth it
you miss out cook purple jewel which only needs to be turned on when using ladles, and you also miss orange damage jewel which is just additive to a big source so only affects like 3% of your damage
s1 got a updated pet forage setup, since the google sheet is down, aswell as the bot command?
if that orange jewel is actually multiplicative, maybe it would be sth to miss out
but additive, yeah, not even worth considering unless early w4 player
BB placed near the purple jewel can always turn on the purple jewel himself easily
https://zockie.idleonefficiency.com
i still lack alot of bonuses idk which to work on rn cuz meal is just passively adding up also shiny pets. Anytips which should i focus next?
iam behind by soo much idk where to start
i dont want to reprint rn since theres alot more bonuses before reprinting
when in doubt, work on alchemy
i alwayd do work for alchemy just too poor to buy tags
When you work on a bubble, you will figure out what you can do to support raising that bubble
Too poor to buy tags > meaning low liquid income > maybe work on cranium cooking bubble and bubo
aight i guess ill do that other han statue farming
best spot to farm? can one shot anymobs
still wurms?
you always should go back to alchemy, and when you face issue raising that bubble, you get to figure out what you can do to fix that
i guess so bad i guess theres so much more other than alchemy since i didnt do anything since rift update
For cranium cooking? Yes tremor wurms
Many issue with mid gamer is when a new update comes, they drop everything they were doing and focus too much in the new stuff (eg statues) which might be out of their league
thing is idk which stage iam rn and what new that much since when i quit the game pre rift update i think i can confidently say i was near end game (late-mid game)
when you speak in class levels, you are early game. when you speak in damage, you are mid game. when you speak in sample size, you are late game. When you speak in some arbitrary stats that no one else cares to raise except for flex, you are end game.
Hahahahaha
my account was pretty balanced at that time but now idk lol
wurm soon ๐
also weekly reset soon for chip gamba
please choco ๐
might just die inside if no choco
I would advise you should use melee weapon on that bubo
i tryed both
the damage from wand is better
Melee weapon triggers aura more often, which deals more damage in total
maybe he needs the damage to 1 shot
by about 4000 kills an hour
The actual damage dealt across mobs is greater on melee
yeah the extra damage from poison is better then melee for aura
i did some 30minute kill rate test for that
not by much tho
so i guess it doesnt really matter
did the poison tick matter tho? did you get less tick atleast?
it matters alot at wurms map
ye when i hit it ofc ill switch
Guess im endgame now 
Banned
Doot and just overtime
What useless stat you are going after?
i remember someone going for max luck bubble with thread productions lol
I was first one to 1m defense that I know of (was even before shimmer trials)
Ah Salz the Original Def God had a disciple
Yea, definitely end gamer
RIP low level eye
as long its 200+, its not going to affect in noticeable level
is it possiible to get 4secs now?
400? No
ow tot 4secs is in 300 ish
talent levels can get to like 314 at max now, but tenteye break points are in 200s
How many kills an hour can u kill?
Nice
i might delay it if i get choco chip
from this weekly reset
then i can get 20k statu over night

still so manythings to work on
after a month of playing i feel like i finally reaching a point where i can do just about anything in the game
well
not quite but close enough
is maybe time to choose a meme stat to raise for end game
Nice bro, i can only kill 17k/hour on mole map 
Gem received ๐
Prob still tons to do based upon you just now reaching wurms, rift is probably the biggest obstacle for you now
i got like atleast 5 goals atfer wurm haha
the path to late game is clear
Biggest hurdle for people is the 130b damage needed to reach rift 26, ~800b on chars to 50
you mean 46 right? you need wayt less than 130b for 26 ^^
how high do I need for rift 41?
is there a way to trigger telekinetic storage on auto?
Is it worth it to double kapow stamp?
why double? do you mean the lab double stamp link bonus or what?
When should I try to farm plunderous kills?
oj or wurms
oj iirc maximizes skill hits, but wurms is almost as good for that and also drops keys if you want extra
Oops i meant statue
yeah but when, as soon as I get the elite class?
yes, worth doubling, i mean better double it with the quest reward, as the only sustainable/reliable source is daily picnic quest which gives 3 per char per day
as soon as you reach oj map then could consider to farm plunder stacks
what do I max in talents? the flag or coins?
there a way for me to deactivate this?
1 point for coin, x for flags if you can 1-2 shot based on hp multi
shouldnt I put alot of points in coin so I have more time
!merit5
IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms
- loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
- w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
- respawn. portals get huge in w5
- boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
- tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor
!merit4
No bubble left behind - As soon as you reach nblb in lab, drop all other merits and start buying this one. Until then, pretend it doesn't exist.
(1) One purchase into Spice Pillage so you don't feel as forced to manually collect spices.
- Max out the eggs so you don't have to log on as often to use them.
- Get Mob Respawn maxed out to allow you to push the maps faster.
- Connection range merit doesn't give much, but it will make it alot easier to find good spots for your characters to be in lab.
(Note: Connection Range is the range from characters to nodes/jewels. Line Width is only between character to character.) - Troll armor is miles better than Diabolical armor. If you do not have enough nullo salt production, you can get spice pillage maxed instead.
- Max out Spice Pillage. Having the talent at level 100 gives it 100% chance to proc.
- Since three crystals daily is next to nothing, get this one last.
better just try push vman enhancement to increase plunder spawn rate, coin duration doesnt offer much returns
Can VM even get the final quest in W4? Seeing that he cant actually finish the elite class one?
well you see I dont even have vman so I probably shouldnt even go for plunder kills
3th island is Seasalt?
you are too early for plunderous farming
or random
maybe if you really want to, get to molti map w5 and push for 10k plunder kills, but any before that id advise against it
random best for 5th or 6th
nah no way, I cant even enter W5 with my SB
then dont farm plunder yet, too early for that
how much DR do you even have to consider for plunder dr multi?
i doubt its that high to make value with multi anyway-
yeah too early for plunder dr multi buff
Reccended damage?
imo best to do wormhole to farm resources to push alch bubbles/vials at w4 to pre-citringe w5 stage
I am farming wormhole currently simply for yellow snowflakes
wdum by "Reccended"?
what speัial in sะตasalt island? is gives only legendary fishes
massive fishing exp for fishing mastery and vman skillage, and fishing cards to push samples
or may be i dont understand
its also the island to boost vman dmg unintentionally since fishing is most often skillage damage bottleneck
@granite grovethanks dude)
Recommend
what is essential for crystal farming on dk except choco chip
genie and poop cards
theres no exactly recommended damage point for plunder mob farming, i dont even pay attention for dmg needed but you just need to have high enough to 1-3 shot mobs for oj/wurms
Crystal spawn and drop rate
at least with my sb, as soon as i can reach oj (with relatively less resource invested), my suppression fire talent can 1-2 shot ojs
well then thats the recomended dmg point, when youre able to 1-3 shot wurms
i dont even try to remember the damage point needed, lets just say try with current dmg, if cant then leave for later
@dry crypt crystal cookie is required
i know i just needed to know what else is needed
you get like 4x more crystals with it
high DR, and yeah if without choc chip, you are basically farming at 25% of optimal rate
lava should at least make choc chip behind w4 npc quest, like maybe redeem 1k gem quest if he wants to give it a cost
He needs to do that or implement pity on it
like choc chip is so essential for active grinding beyond a point
6 months waiting for new players kinda *d
its called โfarm normal bosses and go gem shopโ
doesn't work topbird bc its rare from shop too
๐ฅLock guranteed choco chip behind green gems๐ฅ
evil
He should add a 7 pack of chips with 1 guaranteed of your pick
Doot 2.0
Its much reliable than waiting for christmas
Gamba is always reliable
But anyway, its still something you can do than wait until next rotation
Rmb gamers 90% of ppl quit gamba before they make it big
like just need 385 gems and a tiny pinch of luck
Either u get it or get it on next
Truly a 50% odds
You could just be the unlucky one that got 0.01% chance for a lot of rolls
just sitting for next christmas rotation is 0%, so i think its worth to farm blue gems and gamble chips
I mean choco is not the only thing you want from it, so its not a bad gamba
How op is plunder mob farming btw
Not really
its meh, the only reason to it is for dr/exp multi
Its ok i guess
Should I use mantis on my BB to get super chows or it doesn't help with DN?
For sure mantis
is it possible to switch my bubo to elemental sorcerer?
ppl dont farm plunder for plunder drops itself
Thanks ๐
Yes using elite class swap token
the account wide bonus is nice, but plunder themselves doest drop enough to make it viable farming
wheres that?
Limted gemshop rotaion
if plunder drop multi is twice as high as current, maybe ppl could consinder it
limited time shop bot available now
if plunder applies to crystals, then sb will become gamba farmer
or quadruple it since plunder mob count is low compared to net DR multi from high DK orbs
I love gamba
is there a predetermined rotation i can see?
no, only lava knows it and he wont be leaking it
plunder applying on crystals and giants would have been a nice way to make sb viable and differentiate from others
Unfortunately, it depends on lava's mood
. Usually rotates every update
Like you would spend early of the week on sb to maximize giant drops for a potential plunder
500 <1000 i think
No way its more than 1000
But unfortunately plunder is just a worse mechanic of ES wormhole
oh wait, elite class swap, yeah, was thinking of other item
For now right? Cause eventually mob hp goes a lil too crazy
just quadruple current DR/exp multi given by plunder mobs and make it applicable for plunder crystal mob
well more talent level isnt going to make plunder better
Only thing that gets better is DK orb
Not really sure man, most likely less than 1k
ES will keep falling in farming power in later worlds, but will be crazy good in โearly world farmerโ
In w8, i imagine ES sucks at w8, but can farm 1b w1 mats in 5 min
My bags
By that time, we be able to carry more than inventory
maybe if lava rework/SB to be able to farm well when mob HP goes too high and/or mob count too low, then SB could have some use in the future
Oh god how we gonna farm them rares for bag
like 10b per slot in inventory while storage is limited to 1b
1m rares with 1/1m drop rate for sure
ES being the Glass shard man

Guys for onyx fishing statues what should i do dr and farm w2 nods ?
Wait what max vial rare matts thatโs impossible
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Talking about in w8 era
Hi guys - any chance someone can help me with the Epic Gaming quest? Need someone whose char name starts with P or S
By that time, ES would be farming rare mats like a normal mat
w8 might be possible to invcap wood circles within 1 woodmush portal proc
Thatโs wild assumption
back in w2, its hard to farm mob resources, w3 already farm like 10k an hour, w4 now in 100k an hour
and now w5 with vman printing, casual 100k minimum mob samples
You can try party finder
Like a year ago farming 1b mats were considered impossible. Look at us now
I cant wait for 100x dr
cooking lv40 was like โthats impossibleโ, but now we going lv60 just with vman talent addition
By w8, 1b pearls should be like something you do on daily basis
anyone mind looking at my idleon efficiency? i feel a bit lost now im w5 and have my first few divinity gods
I am never gonna need woodulars again lmao
If we still need pearls by w8, I'm gonna quit. Horrible joke :'(
Look at the ie review checklist before posting
where does one find this?
i mean you still need pearls for vials and i never seeing myself maxing it so we would need pearls at w8 i think atleast
Amyways, claim all keys, buy all amvil points
pretty sure ieREview guy removed the site over the doot stuff
Oh it still exosts
oh neat still have a few things to focus more on
Dont do some of these and reviewers will roast u
Ah yeah you're right. I forgot about the vial
my first two month of game i was on holiday so was afk playing, played catch up this month and skyrocketed to w5 after strugging for ages lmao
Yea all g, ie dosent really show when u started so cant get roasted for that
Is candy use affected by having a high value orb up when you use the candy?
Nope. Nvm. Just reread the tooltip.
what are the highest waves reached for each tower defense?
On that note: is it just me, or is the knightly disciple bad to use when crystal farming? I don't find it triggers a new crystal mob on kill...
I've never noticed anything like that. Might just be in ur head
iirc 130 for the later ones and 150-160 for the "easy" ones
150 goddamn, that probably takes a long time
MS is caped at something like 300% right?
350% for character sprite move speed, tho it starts to bug out again at ~1200% as there are known case where you go to new map before the character sprite even reach the portal
What is the highest possible Nugget?
above visual cap is just for stat calc like quick slap bubble, bowman speedna, and map-mob kill cap
There's no upper cap.
The highest you can personally get is about 1500x the % on your shovel
so in my case this'd be 266.5 x 1500 ~400k
jesus, so my 177% x1500 would mean i can get up to 265k?
Yup
and i thought my 35k i just got was nice 
Obviously the odds of getting that are akin to winning the lottery
tbh a 35k roll is still pretty good, I'm using 15k
Hmmmm, then im happy i guess ๐
Boosts me nicely for now
I think it's something like 1498 instead of 1500, but it's easier to remember 1500
https://i.gyazo.com/472ffe2c8ff3019f7e61976a5e1095a3.png
Finally got a hat 
soooon
winning the lotto twice is more likely than getting max rolled gold nugget
I didn't wanna ruin their day
just looked at the shimmer island calculator...how tf can you get 9600 gp in a week?
or 8000% movespeed....
or giants
giants could be possible...if it didnt stop at 50
Most were not designed to cap 40 yet, but some lavaโs oversight on stats like accuracy
Giants not really possible as it doesnt count big giant bubble proc (meaning, its giants odds tier)
ok...that makes it wayyyyyyy harder^^
One of the few trials that better your account, it gets harder
imagine people trashing sheepie just for that
i wouldnt dare
100% not worth it
anyway, i think lava designed it to only reach 8-10 at current state, but misjudge on some stats like accuracy
yes he forgot the endgamers^^
and also overlooked endgamers with the bs giant challenge
even tho dont need to be endgamer for high giant kills
running a full DR build on ES while farming the ES statues. Is there anything better than chizoar for slot 8?
600 non-bubble-proc giants to max it
Could go pure damage for the portal level
does this keep changing colors as you get higher or is it a 1 time thing?
damage card probably adds more damage than total stat
yeah, I'd done all stat as it increases my luk enough for more DR
but it's only 0.01
Better damage probably a better choice
Other dr should probably stay as dr cards
What is the best setup to farm out chemical in gaming. Cat on and just constantly roll the dice?
Where do I find my crystal spawn chance?
in ie
Got it. Thanks!
Mine is at 1 in 59 on my DK....bad? Good?
Better than mine atleast 
Hey !
is devious armor (kattlekruck) really better than magma core armor (for damage purposes) ? i only have devious boots unlocked atm but i'm not really sure it's better seeing the %stats is replaced by drop chance
I'm starting to work on my stamp, but debating red starting genie and poop
yes
Ugg, only 3k statues from penguins over night because of ground clutter
set for highest dmg (not much dif tho)
I feel that pain, I forgot to add normal mat to drop filter before going to bed
so, only chest then ? i don't have quite the level to equip the scarf yet, i'm 419 atm
cool u gonna get it soon
For max damage, % stats generally wins, but the mob respawn and drop rate is the actual thing you want for most things
Yeah i have no idea why but with armor your dmg is higher
first try i tried it it tooks 15 hours, still think it wasn't worth the stay ๐คฃ
Am I able to share my account with the idleon efficiency website?
was on auto though, ES is good
was that with vman?
no no no i'm not that insane
15 hours of eltting it heal to full?
savage
autoed on ES so i killed it but well, i should've kept killing wurms
whats the lowest vman dmg you can actually kill N kattle with?
you mean in a reasonable time, right ? :))
maybe few million if you can manage fighting for a year
15 hours? for w5 boss?
nah you gotta kill the moles and they have 900 million, you wouldn't be able to damage the boss
is it auto able with vman tho?
200b for auto and forget fight
that seems reasonnable
200b sheet dmg?
200 million with quad punch and stuff is maybe like the minimum to kill the moles
And like a month long fight
funny but don't do that, it's definitely not worth the time
month long manual control that is
yeah
i dont think id even do a 1h manual control tbh
200b is char sheet max damage
does this mean that i can level up a shrine that is placed in town even tho im not in town? '.'
As long its in the same world
thats cool didnt know that ๐ฎ
The moai artifact applies the shrine effect on every world, but still needs that world tour to level the shrine
to give you an idea about how much damage i had, it's been a week and i now have 1b max damage, ES tough. i now take a whole minute of full auto to kill chaos Kattlekruck
thats fast, 1B 1 minute wow
ES good
1b on ES and 1b on vman are totally different things sadly
Ok, red starred my genie and equipped card doubler chip.
Down to 1 in 40 crystal spawn now on DK. Yahoo!
yeah lol
is 1bil 100.000 M or 1.000.000 mil?
yeah, that's why i think 200b should be good for vman
by the time you have 1 billion vman dmg youre probably easy have 100b es
1000M
200b comes from actual experience so its not like an estimate
Why you gotta flex on a poor plebian who hasnt even reached that far into rift 
https://heyoalex.idleonefficiency.com/
Not sure how to progress my account, can anyone help me out?
Every 4 digits is new notation
1000 mil is a billion
Trust me when I say you probably have my ass other places. My account is an example of poorly applied hyper focuses
same ๐คฃ
idk about that past like 3 months ive just been sat afk on my ES 
Same for me lol

This and the fact i havent really done much cooking or breeding im trying to catch up for all that stuff still
first time ive seen lustre equipped lol
cooking uped my damage by a ton once i had cooking speed artifacts
i have all toons on lustre ๐คฃ
lustre sucks
Luster boots can be used for skill boots but else thats going to a dead end gear
get chiz, then troll-magma
ES is magma core but it's so expensive to me
Im hardcapped by breeding i cannot for the life of me do frosty peaks 
same, don't worry, just keep sailing to get the artifacts and then your cooking will be insane
Cant be insane when i cant get all the good recipes 
somehow has more damage
I can send my IE so you can cry if you want 
because my account is so bad i mean btw 
can i get a w5 boss card in a w1 card boss card pack?
y have all above eggplant lvl 20+, all under lvl 15+. just get to the Triangulon artifact (storm island, the north one). get the gaming upgrade MSA Mealing too and you'll be good to cook
How do u actually get atoms. Im only 1 m build time away from my atom thingy
Where's that image of the best cog set up?
i don't think w5 boss are in w1 boss pack
i see thanks
Got them both already except eggplant
it's automatically reducing your stack size so you do'nt have to do anything, just keep farming the mats you use
My print game sucks hard so maybe i should resample
I can't figure it out: How Statues are affected by Droprate?
they have a drop ratio, and u have a drop rate, do the math
Oh, ok, just the simple math... Ty
nop
If I understand it correctly every +100% rolls the table again. So 8x DR=8x rewards
get a lot of turkeys then. Do you have the Rhinestone gem in lab ? it's the round purple one to the left
I do Problem is turkey now takes multiple days even with BB to get gains
you might have to afk a bit to get laddles and upgrade the cabbage
What is the best way to grind 20k power statues?
Ive been grinding for 2 hrs and only gotten 200
on DK
keep leveling, cooking is done only with laddles after a point
dk active on beans it seems
vbeans
Cabbage isnt super high but yeah
thatss what i been doing tho
I think i need to find a way to actually do frosty peaks to get access to the other dmg recipes 
so u are just too weak to farm faster

nah, you need stamps or alchemy at this point
my dr=8.1x so maybe thats it?
its more dr and orb level than how strong you are
well, maybe ';'

Make sure you have as much crystal spawn chance as possible and cookie chip
I have 8.03 DR and it takes me 3*6 hours for ~20k
what level is ur orb shadow?
Too high
https://gyazo.com/52c7fc4cceaef1b70826916101bfd2f4 some of these statues take forever to farm
why do i feel like a bigger nugget is like winning lottery, no chance
for the soda poisoning achievement, can you only have 3 poison towers? Or also others?
