lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dreamy spruce]

flutterbis only works on skills above lvl 50, maybe thats why you havent gotten nay div pearls?

I know it worked for me before I unlocked him

[upbeat falcon]

I can test this real quick with my voidwalker I think you may be right on why I haven't noticed them

Confirmed now that Flutterbis is in effect before unlocking, and I would assume so was Purrmew before unlocking or linking

[sick orchid]

Is there a good map to farm w bubo on w2?

[dreamy spruce]

why in w2 if you dont mind me asking?

but maybe steaks?

[sick orchid]

I'm just testing it, so far ive done w1 beans with bubo, 10x dr it looks like I'm getting more power statues than with my DK

Just the amount of crystals it spawns is crazy

[dreamy spruce]

does your dk have same dr?

and decent orb talent lvl? since its supposed to be better

but I'd try steaks and snelbies

[sick sentinel]

Orb level/crystal chance to get higher orb is big for dk to seperate itself

[upbeat falcon]

I think crystal monsters scale with mob health

[dreamy spruce]

they do

[sick orchid]

Orb is 250

Same dr i transfer gear when i do stuff

Idk i just enjoy playing bubo more

[sick sentinel]

Bubo alch gains are good too

[sick orchid]

I know its not the most efficient when it comes to statues i just like it

[dreamy spruce]

dk farms on pots but dont think theres enough density for bubo

[sick sentinel]

Do what your heart tells you to do

Mimics or sandcastles should be ok for bubo

[upbeat falcon]

Eventually you gotta get 1m kills from ES, DK, and SB abilities

[dreamy spruce]

you can skip sb

[sick orchid]

Ooookay, going to spend my evening writing goodbye letters

[dreamy spruce]

and dk goes pretty fast

[upbeat falcon]

SB takes the better part of a year active fight

Eventually it might become easier

[dreamy spruce]

citringes is already a good map

unless he changes how it works I doubt it'll get a lot easier

[upbeat falcon]

I was thinking he might rework how plunderous mobs spawn

[sacred verge]

not too far since plunderous got a boost

[dreamy spruce]

maybe with next tier of classes

[sacred verge]

its not too too bad now compared to how it was

[zealous niche]

It’s much better with vman, but still nasty

[sacred verge]

yeah but now 100k is fairly doable

[upbeat falcon]

Eclipse talent?

[zealous niche]

1M is the goal though

[sacred verge]

1M i think is not worth it

100k is fine

[fading cape]

Yeah I will be very far along and very much out of stuff to do before I 1M SB

[sacred verge]

the grind for 1 mill is not worth the gain

[zealous niche]

That’s the achievement though: 1M

[upbeat falcon]

Grind for 100k ten times

simple

[sacred verge]

its not that its not simple, its just not worth it

[zealous niche]

If you’re having trouble with that, grind 10k one hundred times

[sacred verge]

i think you guys are missing the point

the gains is not worth the investment

[dreamy spruce]

I think youre missing the joke

[upbeat falcon]

I agree with this I'd rather do ES and DK first because they have good gains on overnight active fighting.

[zealous niche]

The point for me is, there’s an achievement, it must be completed at some point

[sacred verge]

even so, clarifying it for those who dont know

[upbeat falcon]

But the tab 4 points.... 😢

[zealous niche]

Multiplicative drop rate

[sacred verge]

its not even close to worth it, even for end end game players

much better to spend the time on DK

[dreamy spruce]

but then you dont get achievement :/

[sacred verge]

its not important

[zealous niche]

The plunderous kills bonus comes close to giving what a paid pack does

[sacred verge]

work on other achievements

[zealous niche]

to you*

[upbeat falcon]

I wouldn't go well over a million orb kills on DK before I tried to complete the other two

[sacred verge]

well over 10 mill aswell

[dreamy spruce]

I had ES first

[zealous niche]

Haven’t gotten any yet 😦

[upbeat falcon]

My ES has outpaced my DK's progress but I haven't gotten them

[dapper prism]

But having both.. is better

[sacred verge]

if you dont go far far over 1 mill orb kills before you do 1 mill plunder you lose out man

[dreamy spruce]

are those 2 multiplicative with each other? or additive?

[sacred verge]

also what you need to understand is that it works in log system

which means 1k-10k is worth the same as 100k-1mill

[dapper prism]

additive, Base DR x (SB + 20bundle)

[zealous niche]

Multiplicative with each other

[dreamy spruce]

Trickz is cooler sorry Aj

[dapper prism]

[zealous niche]

Daln, the main draw for most people is that there’s an achievement and they want it finished

[sacred verge]

sure go for it

[zealous niche]

Irrelevant of everything else, that has weight for people

[sacred verge]

after all its not a competition or anything, its single player

[upbeat falcon]

For the talent level I understand at 1 million kills I'd have 10^6 bonus I wouldn't want to go out of my way to increase that to ten million either

[dapper prism]

NEED HELP:

Does anyone have any alts that are:
Div levels needed: 24, 38, 44, 46, 48, 54, 97, 103, 112, 120, 121, and anything after 125

Need the full xp bar XP required! to next level

[zealous niche]

Shock!

[sacred verge]

im just giving my opinion and tips 🙂 nothing more nothing less

?

[upbeat falcon]

I have some a day or so away from those levels

[upbeat falcon]

Are you trying to make something like a video?

[misty spindle]

I can give you for level 24 in a few days

Is ES best for farming yellow snowflake?

[zealous niche]

@dapper prism I have one less than an hour away from 97

Cooking on the altar now for you

[dapper prism]

If you want you can toss me any of the levels really, mainly because IE only shows stuff rounded, making the calculator less accurate

[lost depot]

The current tower defence meta is so silly

[dapper prism]

"spam kraken, wait for poison to kill it for 2h" ?

[lost depot]

I know it's called Legends of IDLEon but why tf are we staring at bosses for 20 minutes

[dapper prism]

20mins

[fallow aurora]

kraken pushing mobs out of poison range

[dreamy spruce]

@dapper prism

[lost depot]

I hope lava manages to rework tower defence because this mechanic is just awful atm

Like nerf Krakens but also reduce boss hp by like 80%

[fossil urchin]

i hate TD 'cus the poison causes my game to freeze
crashed at 110 of w4 after it was going for like an hour and i was soooo close to beating the boss

[lost depot]

My game also tends to crash sometimes

I think it can be caused by a lot of lag/desync from active farming

[lost depot]

Like if you've been farming crystals and then do a tower defence I think that might make it more likely to crash

[fossil urchin]

i know active bubo on single platform maps causes my game to crash 'cus of the poison, so i figure the poison going on in the same area in TD for hours does the same

[mighty galleon]

does annybody know at which lvl you can atom the carpender bubble?

[fast grail]

196-200 iirc

[mighty galleon]

ty

[fallow aurora]

that will take a lot of bargain tags

[mighty galleon]

thats at least going to take a month of waiting for nblb

nah im not using bargain tags

dont want to waste what little salt i have

[dreamy spruce]

why not

ah

[fallow aurora]

I don't want to wait like 2 months for nblb

[mighty galleon]

you are either going to wait for nblb or for refinery

either way progress is slow af

[fallow aurora]

true

[dapper prism]

Tyvm

[gentle anchor]

why does my cooking eff decrease when i equip an all stat % card

i dont even replace a card for it

[dapper prism]

Cause cooking is weird, sometimes more str is more effy, sometimes it's less

[gentle anchor]

ow

[dapper prism]

We found that out a while ago while removing gear 🤷

[fallow aurora]

In conclusion just 🍝 code

[dapper prism]

Its usually not worth testing/playing around with, since overall it should be more effy.
However, if you're like very very close to the next multiplier. then you can try and tune it

[gentle anchor]

ow ye i get more eff when i have less strenght

[dapper prism]

It may have to just do with snapshotting or something maybe, idk, no clue.

[gentle anchor]

i got 294k i need 295k for next tier

[dapper prism]

Yeh, then 100% play around

Could also try and go a lot more str and see if u get through the decrease to the next increase

[gentle anchor]

alright im next tier i de equiped pickaxe

[sacred verge]

which classes was best for the lava skull ?

[dapper prism]

es, sb
DK and bubo are risky to clear map and reset stuff

[sacred verge]

tyty

[dreamy spruce]

got chem :>

[lyric sequoia]

I've got those levels if they are close enough to the ones you want

[dapper prism]

To get rid of the IE rounding i could use these please 🙂
90, 81, 105, --, 96, --, --, 92, --, 95

[lyric sequoia]

I assume you mean you don't want the rounded numbers that I can just screengrab from IE and you want me to log into each and get the bar value?

[gentle anchor]

whats that

[dapper prism]

Correct, I have nearly all the levels except for the ones from here: #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

But since they are rounded to nearest 100 on IE, it isn't as accurate as the actual altar.

[dapper prism]

Rift quest

[lyric sequoia]

ok gimme a sec, need to log into a DK first to get the best cons exp from afk time

[dapper prism]

Main issue is there's no public formula for divinity, so i've been trying to setup this calculator better 😄

[tight ridge]

is the new summer nametag the best one? it seems better than the riftwalker one

[iron mesa]

For xp?

[pearl cedar]

So what we thinking for future content blog

[dapper prism]

New companions lets goooo! xD

Probably some W6 npc's?

[pearl cedar]

Prob w6 as a whole, just full release

[dapper prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/438216759120756737/1144749178908577862/mob_w6lanternwalk.gif

[lyric sequoia]

@dapper prism (taking a hot sec to get them, doing afk collection at the same time and sailling)

[dapper prism]

You don't want this QTpie to follow you?

[pearl cedar]

Wiki guy knows 👀

[lyric sequoia]

@dapper prism That's the other 3, a few of them levelled from the afk gains unfortinately

[dapper prism]

Thank you very much 🙂

[iron mesa]

Aight I got one for you, if you still need

[dapper prism]

Yup

[elfin cape]

Hey Trickz, still need help?

[iron mesa]

(DivinityStyleXp * (1 + DivinitySparkieGemShop / 4) * Math.max(1, 1 + Purrmep) * (1 + SharedBeliefsTalent / 100) * (1 + (10 * Math.max(0, DivinityLvl) - 10) + (DivinePO) + (DivSpiralSigil) + (6 * StiltMoleCardLvl) + (DivineStamp) + (PiousAtHeartBubble) + (SpiralStatue) + (CottonCandyMeal) + (MapleSyrupVial) + (InnerPeaceTalent) + (10 * W5MeritShop) + (25 * DivinitySkillMastery150lv) / 100))

Have fun

[dapper prism]

Wow, well, for starters, where is this from? 😄
Secondly, that's to calculate your xp rate not the XP per level needed 😦

[iron mesa]

Uh, needed for level up

[dapper prism]

But isn't that the formula to just see whats on your EXP/h in afk info?

Or does that exclude stuff and not show the proper value?

[iron mesa]

Thats for exp/h, right

[exotic juniper]

rip 10 hours active looking for power statues without choco chip on lol

[zealous niche]

Trickz is calculating for this level it needs this exp

[lyric sequoia]

He wants the calc for how much exp you need to get from llvl 80 to 81 for example, not the player's exp per hour

[zealous niche]

Couldn’t you plot the ones you have and do a line of best fit?

[fast grail]

Id assume that is what he is doing

[zealous niche]

Probably

I only just started thinking on how to do it

[lyric sequoia]

That's why the ask for as many exp needed for levels as possible. The more hhe has the more accurate the graph

[dapper prism]

I did that, the levels missing are the only ones left that were plotted, and i'd rather have them precise. But even then the rest from IE was rounded

[zealous niche]

Does your formula hold?

[lyric sequoia]

Onlly waiting on 3 shinies then I have all of them at least lvl 5 except for the worlld 6 ones, finally

Time to put the world 6 ones up to level 5 too so they are ready

[dapper prism]

Was a while ago with a lot less data, that's why im just trying to fill in the last few since i did get a ton of IE
Div levels needed: 24, 38, 44, 46, 48, 54, 103, 112, 120, 121, and anything after 125

And technically anything in the 10k+ xp requirement due to the 100's rounding on IE to be more precise.

[iron mesa]

Do you have pictures of like 99 and 100, 10 and 11?

[languid topaz]

last time I actived on DK I didn't have enough points for optimal orb, how many talent points is optimal for it?

[opaque sun]

decent major, but studied some useless minor purple captain

[lyric sequoia]

Screenshot of the bar so the exp isn't rounded

[glacial venture]

the last rift with a bonus is 46 atm, right?

[zealous niche]

Jump on the altar then grab the full value

[opaque sun]

267 with mana box for no overlap, 300 with no mana box for most optimal

[languid topaz]

Thank you!

[opaque sun]

If you can, 310+ with mana box is slightly better than 267

[glacial venture]

ok..just beat 60 wh on es...onmy way to 46 then^^

[languid topaz]

why 310+? I can reach 308

[opaque sun]

308 should be good enough

[zealous niche]

@dapper prism tagging so you can find later

[dapper prism]

srry had to afk quickly, back and added it

[opaque sun]

Around past 300 is where it still overlaps (loses like 10 sec worth), but the duration is also long enough that you get more effective time than 267

When book max level goes into 350, people wont bother with overlap

[languid topaz]

Ooooh gotcha, that makes sense. yeah my duration is 153 atm, so that's probably worth

[glacial venture]

if it overlapse you lose counter 2 times

[languid topaz]

ooh yeah it went to 0 both when I summoned it and when the old orb disappeared

[opaque sun]

270-290 is the weird no-no range where the time loss from overlap is greater than the total duration added from the talent levels

[dapper prism]

Higher Levels, **bold **= checked through screenshot.
Had to remove a blank since it felt way off.

XP is From that Level, to the next. E.g. 1 to 2 = 15. 10 to 11 is 130.
Ignore Column ABC

https://i.imgur.com/EGFwAA1.png
https://i.imgur.com/pEB7lKQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/6xRy98O.png

[hazy hinge]

what does the crystal custard card do?

[glacial venture]

are those new pets that lava posts in future content?

[dapper prism]

Nobody knows, but probably some NPC's

Theme for W6 felt different to me than those though

[opaque sun]

the image file says mob, but mobs usually have the black beady eyes so seems more like npc

[dapper prism]

W5 quest to unlock that missing Gaming tab

With.. 100x Sigil speed in it

[opaque sun]

but there is no point of making a walking animation of npc, so maybe lava changed his mind of black beady eyes mobs

[languid topaz]

eh, I'm halfway to unlocking the w6 sigil, I'm not too worried about them tbh

unless he adds more

[exotic juniper]

i got the hotdog hero hat lol

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-dominion-65million-years-later-many-years-later-jurassic-world-jurassic-world3-gif-23905460

[languid topaz]

TRUE LOL

[opaque sun]

lava will probably add more tiers past gold sigils

[glacial venture]

wtf?

[vocal ibex]

How to get fastest statues 100k on non dk character?

[opaque sun]

Slightly doubtful of if he is willing to make an UI for more sigils tho

[glacial venture]

we need faster ways for sigils first...

[opaque sun]

candy at dreadlo

[languid topaz]

checks IE this is fine 🙂

[dapper prism]

Can't wait for void sigil, godshard sigil, eldritch sigil.

Only 500x longer for each step

[languid topaz]

actually less than a month for the w6 one tho, not bad

[glacial venture]

28d left

[opaque sun]

There are only few that is worth to say sigil past gold anyways

[glacial venture]

not 28d to unlock

[vocal ibex]

@opaque sun @opaque sun what's dreadlo

[languid topaz]

I know

[dapper prism]

Slow is fine.. but by the time you hit anything at all on sigil you're already end game

[opaque sun]

Mining ore

[dapper prism]

Nope

[glacial venture]

if he adds another tier...you are pensioneer when it unlocks^^

[languid topaz]

only characters on the sigil and that one gem shop upgrade afaik affect sigil speed

[dapper prism]

You can let your grandkids finish it xD

[opaque sun]

w1 mining ore rare bag drop scales higher the ore tier, so if done decently you can farm like 1000-2000 statues from dreadlo ore per hour with a candy

[dapper prism]

A sigil that affects sigil speed midway including artifact for sigil multiplier

[languid topaz]

right

[vocal ibex]

I have les than 200k hour candies I'm newish

[dapper prism]

200k o.o

[vocal ibex]

I'll go dreadlo and mine til they get it

[opaque sun]

200k hours is like more than enough

[vocal ibex]

Yeah but I wanna save for other stuff

Ya have thousands maybe millions of candies

[opaque sun]

What other stuff, you saved candies exactly for this kind of occasion

[glacial venture]

we greenstackcandies

[opaque sun]

You are speaking like those people who hoard mega exliers and never uses in battle

[dapper prism]

Like my greenstack gems? someday

[languid topaz]

Greenstack candies

[opaque sun]

50-100 hr candies to save like week of farming is welll worth the trade

[vocal ibex]

That all my candies

I'll be candyless

I only have like 150 hours not k lmao I messed up

[glacial venture]

if you got the pet that gives you big bubble effects getting candy is easy

[vocal ibex]

How

I am noob

[paper sail]

I keep gaining faster than I use

[glacial venture]

big game hunter bubble

[opaque sun]

well, if there is an occasion to use candies, use them is the advice for noobs

[vocal ibex]

Lmao true 🤣

[opaque sun]

later in the progress is you struggle to use the accumulating candies

[glacial venture]

still 7 statues to onyx....

[paper sail]

Wow, what a total n00b

[glacial venture]

the hardest part of using candy is not getting bored^^

[opaque sun]

Every irl hrs you saved by using candies means you get to work on other stuff earlier

[glacial venture]

i know @paper sail

[paper sail]

If you don't have at least 20, you can't talk to me

[opaque sun]

Getting that up really boosts the candy income

[vocal ibex]

I shall now increase it

[glacial venture]

in combi with the pet even better

im at 49% atm

[vocal ibex]

?

What pet what for

[languid topaz]

I'm about to just remove all the bronze obols from the drop table lol I can't keep up w/ this

[glacial venture]

might atom it tmw if i dont forget it^^

[paper sail]

Oh hell yeah 🥳

[glacial venture]

if i farm for statues i basicly put every other drop on filter

gz

[dapper prism]

Gz, idk why but i expected you to have that already 👀

[paper sail]

Only a couple left

[dapper prism]

Oh damn

[languid topaz]

nice, I'm just missing eye and cloudbook

Looking forward to having to do catching to get the 20k fishing statues roflmao

[glacial venture]

it was a shit show for me^^

[languid topaz]

probably gonna spend all my candies on nothing... or 13-ing silver bars

[glacial venture]

but dr was a BIG part of statues

[paper sail]

Catching wasn't too bad. 3 or 4 days on Vman and I 5* all the cards at the same time

[dapper prism]

I got all alts from 40-50 (all skills including catching) to 90-100. Finished like 2ish days before the update.
Sadly depo'd all statues along the way :/

[sacred verge]

only w2 catching gives statues tho

dosent it?

[dapper prism]

For fishing true i guess

[paper sail]

I know this feeling

[languid topaz]

checks cards looks like it

[vocal ibex]

Being vman reduces the amount of bubble materials or is that an exception?

[glacial venture]

best part of onyx statues was getting to 350 movespeed without pots

[vocal ibex]

Ty

[languid topaz]

tbh I should stop afking wurms and switch to skills but like... I wanna hit 5k for the 4th sparkle

[dapper prism]

Main thing would have been the 100k statue quest, would have been a freebie along the line

[exotic juniper]

do i have to do 20k statues on each character?

[languid topaz]

only for power statues

[dapper prism]

Nope, pins has a lot of the info you need.

[languid topaz]

cuz of the quest

[dapper prism]

Don't "need" the quest on alts for the onyx benefit though

[languid topaz]

true, but I'm gonna do it anyways lol

gotta get that luck and skill eff lol

[dapper prism]

Yeh, then you should do the 100k too for kachow 😄

[languid topaz]

Definitely (not) looking forward to onyx-ing w3 statues!

[exotic juniper]

so whats the point of doing the quest on multiple chars?

[dapper prism]

Stamps that scale things based on quest completed

[languid topaz]

quest after gives 10k kachow and skillehexp

[dapper prism]

And then the 100k quest ^

[exotic juniper]

ah

[languid topaz]

doing it twice is necessary for onyx kachow

[dapper prism]

Kachow statue is crit dmg. You could technically only get 10x 3 statues a day from doing picnic quest on every alt every day.
Yet the current Monolith quest will get you 10k per alt that does that quest. That's a lot 😄

[exotic juniper]

so do it alteast twice, maybe more if you hate yourself?

[glacial venture]

feasty?

you mean skill exp statue

[languid topaz]

not doing the picnic on everyone every day for 667 days lol, that sounds even worse

[exotic juniper]

1500 more power til 20k

i was active 10 hours today without choco chip on lol would of had it by now

[dapper prism]

Why feasty?

Ah, praxy typo, thought it was refering to my message

[languid topaz]

oh my bad

fixed

(feasty would be better imo)

[runic girder]

Feasty is an easy one to onyx

[glacial venture]

feasty is easy to get 10k or 20k

[paper sail]

10k feasty aint much, though skill exp sucks

[glacial venture]

you dont onyx every statue for statue effect itself

[paper sail]

Can't wait to turn in

[zealous niche]

Rude, the statues are doing their best

[glacial venture]

press it press it

[languid topaz]

I'd rather feasty cuz more food effect is stronger than more skill exp effect imo

[autumn wasp]

just never turn it in

infinite gains as new statues come out

[glacial venture]

imnot sure...but wasnt it said if you turn in with the turn in option you wont get the bonus statue exp effect?

[languid topaz]

manual turnins are ass, only bothering with that for onyx then clicking the button lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah you do end up losing statues if you do multiple levels at once

[dapper prism]

Just do it for kochow

even if lazy and stacks of 100's initially or something is better than "depo all"

[paper sail]

Does the turn in method matter, or only quantity?

[runic girder]

So you have to go level for level?

[signal osprey]

For max gains yeah one level at a time

[paper sail]

I tried to math out a guildee's example but couldn't see an issue

[runic girder]

Ffff

[signal osprey]

And I don't think the method makes a difference

[runic girder]

Add that to the nuisance list

[signal osprey]

Yeah I have like 10m statues waiting to be turned in when I get home in a few days

Not looking forward to doing those 1 level at a time

[exotic juniper]

is there a point in keeping some of these random ones i never use?

[signal osprey]

But I know I will

[glacial venture]

the mystery lvl 1s

[signal osprey]

Keep the misc stones for stamps

[sleek tree]

Divine knight or bulbo for statue drop?

[dapper prism]

See pins

[signal osprey]

Dk

[tough tusk]

bulbo xd it is dk tho

[exotic juniper]

so no need to keep summer or easter ones? @signal osprey ?

[signal osprey]

No

[glacial venture]

keep the armor upgrade stone c

need that for a recipe...but dont remember for what

[paper sail]

Maybe you can find where I missed up.

Start: 153/539 on Thicc Skin.
Depositing: 600 statues
Onyx count: 9 onyx
Snakeskin: Guaranteed
Startue Exp: is at exactly 20%
End result: 4 levels and 568/660 to the next level

I looked up values and Wiki and tried my best.

(600 + 540 from Onyx) *2 from Snakeskin = 2280 points.

386 toward that first level (54->55)
20 % discount applied, 454 points needed (55->56)
With no discount, 597 points (56->57)
again no discount, 628 points (57->58)
again no discount, 568 points remaining as stated toward 58->59

Assuming the bug works as I understand it, they would have earned 2633 points which is above what I expected.

If they got the full 20% discount each time, they'd only have needed.. 386+454+478+503+436 which totals 2257 points which is closer to the range of expected values? Rounding on Statue bubble could explain that

[fast grail]

They are BIS stones for defense on weapons iirc

[zealous niche]

I keep them to save on space in my filter list and still be able to just mash deposit all

[barren otter]

whats a good endgame laddles per day?

[primal bison]

Dk best class for crystals?

[exotic juniper]

who needs def on weapons?

[zealous niche]

The orb affects crystal drops

[paper sail]

I'm over 2100 and not that much ahead of you I don't think

[zealous niche]

If you just need crystals spawned or card drops vman

[barren otter]

uh yea 2050

[paper sail]

Well, then, seconded. Let's find out what the stronk lads get

[barren otter]

how do you even get 2500+ lol

[exotic juniper]

lol i have 120 per day

[dapper prism]

Im 2.5k+ without afk keychains afaik

currently 2255/day without even the afk cape or divine scarf

[paper sail]

Some nerd just put out a new AFK gains chart: https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1144747572280438874

That's somewhere to start. I sure don't have 400%

[dapper prism]

Huh, u cant double passive cards though?

[barren otter]

@paper sail thats with doot...

[dapper prism]

So, that's taking into account you didnt get 300 fam lvl at rift 16? xD

[signal osprey]

I don't think that's quite how the statue bubble bug works

[paper sail]

Please explain :c

[signal osprey]

I'm not a code digger so I could be wrong but its my understanding that you do get the bonus each level but that the bonus snap shots to whatever the first level gave rather than adjusting to the new value

[paper sail]

I think they're only counting 3.9% from Goat but could be reading incorrectly

[signal osprey]

So like if you have 20 bubble and 1k statues required that would be a 200 statue discount

[exotic juniper]

this looks pretty good, yea?

[signal osprey]

And if you did 10 levels at once you get 200 for all 10

Whereas if you do each level one at a time you get 20% of the new value for each levels

[barren otter]

doot is giving me 40% afk gain from goat vs a non doot

[paper sail]

So still a "20%" discount, just the same 20% as the very first level instead of updating

[signal osprey]

Yeah so you still lose statues just not as much as you think

[paper sail]

Sounds like you should be above that chart then, yeah?

[signal osprey]

At least thats what I was told. I can't confirm it myself so I may be wrong

[dapper prism]

I'm confused

What's the bug? or what do i need to watch out for in simple words?

Is it as simple as "check number of statues needed, divide by 7 and depo.

[paper sail]

Depositing multiple levels worth of statues at once doesn't account for yellow Statue bubble correctly.. somehow

[signal osprey]

Doing multiple levels in a single statue turn in makes the statue exp bubble less effective

So ideally you split stacks and level statues one level at a time for max gains

[dapper prism]

Oh i thought it doesnt even affect those levels either way?

[zealous niche]

If you’re at level 100 statue, it will apply the bonus level start as if all the levels you gain in that amount are 101

[dapper prism]

But it does affect it just weirdly?

[zealous niche]

So, if you gain 5 levels, you’ve lost statues from 4 of those

Since 20% of 102 is more than 20% of 101

As an example

[barren otter]

im actually so dumb

i have almost none of my cooking stuff booked

other than superchow

[iron mesa]

@dapper prism Did you figure out Exp for level up?

[hollow sandal]

Whats the best place in each world to farm the statues? ik its beans for w1 but what about the rest?

[junior arrow]

📌

[hollow sandal]

I shoulda checked that my bad and thanks

[paper sail]

I still love you, don't worry

[barren otter]

[signal osprey]

We're all dumb here

Thats why we play idleon

[dapper prism]

Oh havn't been touching it yet

Doing other stuff atm

[sleek tree]

Rift 51 do something?

[dapper prism]

We used to be young and dumb, now we're older and dumber 🙂

[signal osprey]

Nope

[junior arrow]

We stop at rift 50

[iron mesa]

Check if this will work for you
(9 + (Math.pow(Level, 1.4) + 3 * 106)) * Math.pow(1.1 - (0.08 * Level) / (Level+20), Level)

According to your results

[dapper prism]

Looks pretty good, how do you add it into the sheet, I would have assumed Level = Coloum/row name if you added a row with levels like your first image. But getting a Parse error for:
=(9 + (Math.pow(E100 Level, 1.4) + 3 * 106)) * Math.pow(1.1 - (0.08 * E100 Level) / (E100 Level+20), E100 Level)

oh i see the issue lol

[iron mesa]

Depends on what ur using, there might be no math.power function

Oh wait

I forgot

(9 + (Math.pow(Level, 1.4) + 3 * Level)) * Math.pow(1.1 - (0.08 * Level) / (Level+20), Level)

Theres level too, instead of 106

=(9 + (Math.pow(E100, 1.4) + 3 * E100)) * Math.pow(1.1 - (0.08 * E100) / (E100+20), E100)
Or
=(9 + (pow(E100, 1.4) + 3 * E100)) * pow(1.1 - (0.08 * E100) / (E100+20), E100)

[dapper prism]

It looks very good, but the rounding either on IE, ingame or in the formula is what's a mess, sometimes rounding up, sometimes down

For google sheets:
=(9 + (E100 ^ 1.4 + 3 * E100)) * (1.1 - (0.08 * E100) / (E100 + 20)) ^ E100

[iron mesa]

Google has power function

[dapper prism]

Also, we should move to #off-topic-chat for this chat btw

[iron mesa]

No, thanks. I guess you'll handle it

[dapper prism]

All good, tyvm, saving me some time with this 😉

[sharp vine]

Some decent gains today after finishing my w2 statue grind. Shoulda read Trickz' pin beforehand though, didn't realize I should do full deposit til later but oh well got 3 more worlds to do and save up for

[iron mesa]

Lastly, game basically uses Math.round for everything

[primal bison]

What’s the best way to grind crystals on dk? I have post office box maxed, cookie, and stamp upgraded. What else?

[zealous niche]

Cards doubled?

[dapper prism]

Star talent is big

[primal bison]

Yeah

[primal bison]

Forgot about this one thanks

[dapper prism]

You can also use insight to find everything of a specific topic that may help:
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=crystal

Although it wouldnt tell you about chip card doublers etc.

[solemn rampart]

Can you get more than 40 shimmer from the accuracy trial?

[primal bison]

Feel like I’m the only player who doesn’t use this lol, don’t trust giving out my login

[iron mesa]

Capped at 40

[solemn rampart]

Alright, I'll just claim it then.

Didn't get the star book sad.

[dapper prism]

You don't need to login for insight? thats IE and IT. and even then google login through code would be fine

[primal bison]

Didn’t know this thanks🙌

[iron mesa]

Both IT and Insight are open-sourced. Feel free to check byself

[sullen scaffold]

Mates, you think i should farm pop obols on DK or ES

5.48 droprate

[iron mesa]

Es, then Dice Obols on Dk

[sullen scaffold]

Gotcha so ES on pops, ty

[tender pine]

is there a chance this beats kattlekruk?

[dapper prism]

Normal mode i hope?

He has 100b hp*, not sure how high your hits are

[fast grail]

With that damage AND gear, i dont think there is much benefit for you fighting kattlekruk, no?

[sick zenith]

It'll take forever not worth it

[fast grail]

Even if it takes forever, what do they gain out of it? They dont have w5 weapon, no magma gear, low dr.

[dapper prism]

Yeh, people constantly trying to rush Kattle for 0 purpose

[autumn wasp]

u telling me i shouldnt have spent an hr killing nightmare kruk on my dk

[dapper prism]

Idk but i hope you dont have 3x DR in w5

[signal osprey]

How do you even get to kruk with those stats

[dapper prism]

Their name is Slowwyyy

[fast grail]

If you spent an hour on Dk, sounds like you dont have any reason to be killing nm

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/sloth-zootopia-slow-tag-stamp-gif-5368335

[autumn wasp]

but i gotta get that achievement bro

[signal osprey]

In the weeks it would take to clear the maps I feel like you would accidentally level up some mechanics and maybe get some better stats

[elfin cape]

What level should I get MK bubble to? 450?

[signal osprey]

Those levels could go into bob instead though

[exotic juniper]

these 4 idiots taking me forever

[fast grail]

Or FMJ

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure my massacre is actually 450

[elfin cape]

There are other bubbles I'd rather level, but MK sounds way too juicy

Especially if I only get to 450, 3¹/² days

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/SlP5Hlj.png

gettin those oceanman statues aint too bad

https://i.imgur.com/Icj49af.png

forgot starsigns and chips, lil bit better

[fast grail]

Oh wow that isnt too bad. Need to actually do it myself at some point

[solid epoch]

yeah only need like 5 12-hr candies

[dapper prism]

remember to do it on the 100k quest

[solid epoch]

using Vman with 393% afk gain, 60/min tool speed, and 17.08x DR

o shiet true

i havent accepted it yet

oh well im gonna farm a bunch of lumber statues anyway on all chars with some candy

[livid raft]

Why is it such a pain to get obols to populate on the slab?

[tall horizon]

Reroll them

[exotic juniper]

i just got vman... didnt bothe rearlier. any tips for speedrun?

[livid raft]

Is that the trick to make it populate faster/better?

[tall horizon]

Makes it work everytime (did for me atleast)

[livid raft]

Yep that did the trick thank you master.

Now at 1161/1449... slowly but surely lol

[solid epoch]

now i just need bullseye, box, twosoul, and seesaw for onyx. might just candy them all

[livid raft]

and just 10 more star signs to unlock via pets.. and all those are done as well.

[unreal fox]

hi guys where is best place to farm construction and mine obols?

[fast grail]

Mining obols only from alchemy, cons is just w3 crystals

[unreal fox]

okay tks bro

[tender pine]

then what mechanics should I purposefully level up to get better stats?

[fast grail]

With that damage, you are prob missing a large amount of sources. Alchemy, Cooking, Lab, Stamps, Better gear, talent levels, some sailing.

[lime imp]

does the bear good not work on the voidwalker skills?

[livid raft]

I need someone to come level up all my alchemy plx n thank you.

[tender pine]

what do I upgrade in alchemy, what do I upgrade in cooking, I've been doing lab on 8 characters for the past 3 weeks, I've used most of my resources on damage stamps, I have none of the resources to upgrade my gear, mostly all of the good talents are at max, and I haven't got an artifact in sailing for about a month.

[wispy sapphire]

are there specific breakpoints for ES's Family Skill?

[dapper prism]

Yes, depends on the ES's level, use wiki ES tab

[wispy sapphire]

ah that makes sense thanks

[zealous niche]

No +current level buffs work on vman’s tab 4

Is it viable to use colo + orb to get troll keys?

[gloomy bobcat]

How get DR higher?

[zealous niche]

Rather than farming them through the hammers

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/A2QOPXT.png

~19 12 hr candies

[elfin cape]

Yeah, at 20x DR it took me 90 colo runs for 4k keys

[fast grail]

You have to upgrade almost everything in alchemy, minimum bubbles are important, alchemy increases samples/damage, which increase alchemy, loop, in cooking you pretty much need all meals, every single meal increases cooking speed with vman talent, if you are using most of resources on damage and none to upgrade gear, sounds like you need to sample more often, increease max level of talents using book shelf. What artifacts do you currnelty have? Most of the time when people are 1+ month dry it is trying to later ancients or eldricths

[elfin cape]

45 per entry

I had 2k saved

[tender pine]

and for talents, I meant most of them are at max book level

[fast grail]

go back to island 1 immedietly

you are missing the artifact that gives +artifact find chance

[ebon thunder]

What's a good way/place to farm the power statue for the new monolith quest?

[tender pine]

i've had 2 boats there the entire time

[fast grail]

What are your boats speed/loot? just dump all boats on island, you are shooting yourself in the foot by not having it

[dapper prism]

...

[zealous niche]

In pins

[tender pine]

some are at 1,000 but most are at around 500 for speed, and loot, most are 500~600
(someone asked me before why I had all my boats at island 1, so I just assumed I shouldn't do that.)

[fast grail]

Wait, on average, how long are your boats taking to get to an island?

[dapper prism]

Honestly, at this point i'd at least open the wiki and read all the w5 skill stuff

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/Qr8eBEt.png

man this is taking a lot of candy

2 more to go

[exotic juniper]

Beans with DK

[sacred verge]

how many ?

[tender pine]

I just sent most of them there and they say 2 hours

[solid epoch]

that one was about 250 hrs ish worth

the next two are gonna be worse

twosoul and box

[dapper prism]

Should check pins for all the info

[fast grail]

For island 1 they would be 2hrs, but i hope beofre you werent sending boats that would take anything more than 4 hours or so

[sacred verge]

i cant decide if im gonna bother with it or hold off

[solid epoch]

its probably not worth it but i cant wait

[sacred verge]

yeah thats the problem lol

also probably gonna be easier in the future

[tender pine]

they all said 2 hours, no matter what island I put them to

[sacred verge]

might not be too too far into the future before he makes w3 statues easier so the noobies can get onyx aswell lol

[crisp silo]

3 hats baby

[opaque sun]

its just few hundred candies and there are lot of free candy sources, so w3 statues already easy enough

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/agZaSZO.png

yeah we gettin there

[elfin flicker]

when you can't kill plunderous in a couple of hits and it just stacked up lol

[opaque sun]

just dont max the flag talent

The duration doesnt change on that thing anyway

[elfin flicker]

its fine, still good tbh

[tender pine]

I know how they all work, the problem is being efficient.

[unreal fox]

i only put 1 points on flag talent @@! if u dont want a boss on map

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/q8BxOeb.png

on the last one but this gonna be the worst one

[dapper prism]

Not at all really

Even worse on some other maps, but Hits get blocked on those tanks, meaning less other mob kills for insta respawns etc.

[exotic juniper]

wtf i didnt know this was a talent lol just got it..... would of been nice before reaching lvl 410

[glacial venture]

lol....

[exotic juniper]

haha

also would of been nice before getting 19,000 power statues

anything else im missing for crystal spawn chance haha

[signal osprey]

More stamp

[rugged thistle]

this enough dmg to kill W5 nightmare boss?

[solid epoch]

itll take a while but yeh

[glacial venture]

hm..11b...you will run around a lot

is that with npng?

[opaque sun]

on a bb? gonna be long

[signal osprey]

Especially with 160% speed and 120% crit

[opaque sun]

other classes like bubo and es will take long, but at least you can leave it alone on auto

also the mk pendant kind of cringe

[glacial venture]

if you already killed boss some times...get better weapon

but id suggest....go farm some statues first

bulls eye, feasty and movespeed

those are easy

[wispy sapphire]

12m maestro kills on gmush, any big things to look for to increase my kills/her other than just increase my damage?

[glacial venture]

fight afk gain

[opaque sun]

lab node and nobisect

[glacial venture]

star signs

[wispy sapphire]

oh yeah nobi good call

[opaque sun]

damage is actually like the 3rd or 4th priority stat in terms of killing actually

[glacial venture]

movespeed might influence kph too i think

[opaque sun]

Afk gain, respawn, multikill per tier is the big 3. Damage is just a subsidiary stat of multikill

[rugged thistle]

whats a better neck?

[opaque sun]

Like anything respawn related. Deathly cluster, chiz scarf, divine scarf

Especially for bb, respawn will help even for active than flat mk from pendant

[glacial venture]

i really hope next class for bb will be good

otherwise its a dead end

[dapper prism]

Sounds like new full classes, not actual promotions on elite

[opaque sun]

i kind of wish bb goes further into non-combat supporter role

I would have guessed Blood Berserker is a class that is most non-combat oriented support class in idleon

[glacial venture]

bb needs to get some kill love...or its support is really bad

in what world is a berzerker a supporter?

[opaque sun]

because of him, you are getting all those meal bonuses

[glacial venture]

not in the idleon world sense

[opaque sun]

And also without him, fishing would have sucked

And technically he is the best construction assistant due to how construction is made

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/12pMQBy.png

its time

[opaque sun]

you take lot of buffs for granted, but try running a game without bb and it will be heavily gimped

[glacial venture]

low

its the name that dont fit him

[opaque sun]

while bubonic conjurer is like a striker killing class that goes frontline melee

[glacial venture]

who would outside of idleon think of a cook when he reads blood berzerker

the name suggest someone who gets on a blood drenched rampage

[opaque sun]

Berserker is the most domesticated househusband that tends the house

[rugged thistle]

i love my bb sadly other 1 outshine him T.T

prob have hindered my self because he is my main and i focus him over others

[opaque sun]

Being a family is not all about who gets the most salary

[heavy moth]

does quick deposit depose your chest inventory as well for statue

[zealous niche]

Yes

[heavy moth]

fml jsut deposed my 18K two soul....

[foggy apex]

just found out that beast master can kick his own boar lmao!!

[exotic juniper]

my gf makes more $ than me. its the good life

BB has it good

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/9Ohudcj.png

[tall horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/rashaken-idleon-nacho-kick-food-gif-7135153184301381884

[solid epoch]

done depositing, except for 8 kapow quests

now i gotta farm beans for a year brb

[crisp silo]

huh

cool

[zealous niche]

You can also kick pets in the fenceyard

[foggy apex]

LOL

[opaque sun]

Since nacho spawns near bm, he is often kicked around during active farming

[valid ledge]

what kinda active farming would you be doing with BM
lol

[tall horizon]

Bad kind

[opaque sun]

class levels

[sharp vine]

Tbh I did it both for levels and to finish up my breeding in just a few days

[heavy moth]

is it worth resampling since onyx

[zealous niche]

Always worth resampling

[fast grail]

The new star talent where you get eff from doing quests makes it worth imo

[heavy moth]

ohh yea that too so new chopping power and mpore eff

yea ill probably hit the bil this time

[tall horizon]

Thanks for reminding me I need to do that. Another reason to put off resampling

[heavy moth]

only 166 quest done tho

[fast grail]

Any reason to put off sampling is a good reason

[opaque sun]

Onyx statues roughly gets around 20% more samples

[heavy moth]

soooo around 200 mil more ? ahha

[opaque sun]

If you were at 1b oak, yeah should be around 200m more oak

[heavy moth]

seems really worth it

[opaque sun]

resetting the printer bonus of 2x+ may hurt for a while, but long term its worth

[heavy moth]

had to reset to finish monster mat on vman anyway but yea it always hurts ahha

even skullroy was suprise

[valid ledge]

what happed to

that map
lol

[heavy moth]

lol no clue XD

fixed itself right after

[pine slate]

Bro a lvl 1 just invited me for happy hour, and then entered just me and him, left, and by doing so wasted my x20, then right after that I got my first last phase kill I'm so pissed

[umbral tapir]

Just got my evergreen evolution on a 2.3% whim click.... Is good yes?

[zealous niche]

Well it's unlocked, so yes definitely good

[lusty wedge]

I hate this, i wish if you forfeited you didn't use your tickets

[zealous niche]

You sure it used all your tickets? need a three person team

[solid epoch]

im down

where we droppin

[pine slate]

Yeah there another guy, didn’t mention him tho since he was the same as the other dude

[cold jackal]

damn damn 100 and a bit hours for the next map

[pine slate]

Yeah it’s nuts

[fast grail]

Sounds like an alch issue

[junior arrow]

last map is 10m so enjoy that haha

[fast verge]

on it rn

with no multi kill

active bubo will save the day

50 hours and i get worms

[fast grail]

Prepare to be one shot by crystals

[junior arrow]

just a casual 60-80k damage nothing too extreme haha

[pure ember]

I kinda want huge dmg dealers in w6.....

[junior arrow]

i dont even remember what they hit when you are fresh there, they might hit more

[pure ember]

Things don't really get through 10k def

[fast grail]

This what I want, and I am ready

[pure ember]

Or 1M hp

[lapis mesa]

80k huh? fun.. good thing my DK is the one getting there first lol, he can survive a couple shots

[junior arrow]

what you mean 1m hp, wurms have 1.5b health already

oh you mean you having 1m health?

[fast grail]

I already dont take any damage from the wurms themselves on my bubo

[junior arrow]

damn why so much defence haha, is that mostly through FMJ?

[fast grail]

FMJ carries hard

[vapid cove]

is that even possible what level is your bubble freaking 40k xD

[junior arrow]

what level is yours, mine is 205 but i only have 3600 defence

[fast grail]

Almost 3500 rn

[vapid cove]

yeah i dont think thats possible wth

[fast grail]

atomed to little over 3k and now i just click it every 5 hours or so with printed fruit flies

[vapid cove]

well darn I just did it a few times and my def went from 3k to 4.2k

must be multiplicative

[fast grail]

It muliplies tjhe defense of your armor. Only other same source is from cards

[eager wraith]

Is miracle chest good I wanna fuel my gambling addiction faster but jewels are already bought out

[vapid cove]

yeah so totally doable since i just went up 1.2k with like 20 fmj level ups

maybe a bit more

also it seems to be fixed scaling so wont drop off like a lot of the other things

[fast grail]

Correct, it is linear, never ending increase

You need about 330k defense for 40 shimmers on the defense trail, which is about 900-1000 fmj

[cold jackal]

holy heck if that's true i gotta go sample fruit flies

[fast grail]

Most people stop there

[vapid cove]

well do fmj and shaquracy

[tacit kelp]

When do the new round of companions come out?

[fast grail]

But linear, so no reason to stop

[tacit kelp]

Today is week 10 since companion update right?

[cold jackal]

right before you get doot

[vocal ibex]

Question how many statues ya getting ? I beenall day on beans active not hit 20k statues yet

[vapid cove]

im barely getting into atom stuff its really harsh

for the moment im just getting everyone lab 75 and throw everyone into the bear god

for now goat

yeah its not gonna change for a long time im barely hitting 6.5 on drop rate

statue farming is gonna take a long time

[fast grail]

Make sure to re-sample often and level alch bubbles, it ramps very quickly at the begining

[stark urchin]

You could easily get like 13 dr at that level

[vapid cove]

yeah i probably could im just too everywhere at the moment

[opaque sun]

miracle chest is good in a way that its doesnt give anything, to a point it will subdue your gambling addiction

[vapid cove]

I did catch up to world 5 so will be a nice change to be on content when it drops

[analog cave]

what are the generally good tier 3 keychains? like top 3

[opaque sun]

afk gain. period

[sacred monolith]

Drop rate for active, afk for others

[slender vale]

say for es and divine knight if i use orb or wormhole then use time candy would i get the extra droprate from those

[vapid cove]

nope but bigger number is bigger gains

just try to have the largest gain from orb/ wormhole

[slender vale]

alrt and thx prob should of guessed that would of been to op

[opaque sun]

DK orb technically buffs gimmie gimmie stat (effective kills made per kill) which is not an afk stat. Wormhole is applied to wormhole mobs only, which cant be killed via afk. So both doesnt affect candy results

[eager wraith]

I will never stop my addiction

[opaque sun]

miracle chest doesnt give any positive feedback, there isnt anything to release dopamine

[shy flame]

how to farm power statues if no chocolate chip

[vagrant mountain]

need to do W3 statues but i dont want to leave beans

[opaque sun]

Then just farm like 3 times more without chocochip

[eager wraith]

I will do chip and get a movement speed

[shy flame]

will do 10 minutes carrots then show progress

[old portal]

whats a good NBLB min now?

[fast grail]

250-300+

[old portal]

is it fairly easy to get 250+ now??

[fast grail]

No, not really easy but 250+ is good.

For normal late-game, I would say like 200+ is good

[pure ember]

W2 is pretty quick

[old portal]

isnt it going to be easy to get 200+ since we have atomable at 150?

[little pagoda]

I would say so

OOh nvm

[shy flame]

in 10ish minutes of pretty casual farming on carrots I think I got 1 power statue

how to get choc chip

[signal lava]

gamble

[old portal]

statue farming without choco chip is just meh

[shy flame]

what I'm hearing is onyx statues are a myth, magma core gear is my new best friend

[vagrant mountain]

dementia forever

[shy flame]

Still better than my old ES gear

[little pagoda]

I hhonestly have found zero need to upgrading gear so far

[elfin cape]

[little harbor]

finally unlocked pong controller! Does the score add a multiplier? Not seeing what benefit this actually gives

[little pagoda]

Only thing that maybe will make me do that is drop rate from kattlekruk shoes and helmet

[bold quiver]

where to farm bullseye and fisherman statue? iim only missing those 2 to onyx

[elfin cape]

Bullseye W1 tree mobs, oceanman from catching W2

[little pagoda]

Giant tree mobs for bullseyes, probably walking sticks or mushrooms for a bit higher chance

[bold quiver]

any better catching spot or anything?

[vagrant mountain]

fruitflies have best drop rate

[bold quiver]

gotcha thanks

[elfin cape]

Don't think it matters, pretty sure all have same chance

1/67 for the bag and 1/12 for the statue

[little pagoda]

Finally decided to level up vman a bit and killing crystals in w5 is god tier for xp

[vagrant mountain]

ye nvm they do all haave same chance

[elfin cape]

Stack AFK gains and DR, then candy on Vman

[normal sandal]

where is this pic from?

[elfin cape]

Also catching speed

[bold quiver]

hm

[elfin cape]

!IT

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[vagrant mountain]

toolbox

[normal sandal]

ah toolbox

ty

[bold quiver]

do u know how many statues should be getting on average?

like 100 per 1h?

[elfin cape]

I can't remember, but it didn't take too long, lemme see if I can find a screenshot

[vagrant mountain]

you should be able to get 200+ with catching foods and decent DR

100% eff > speed > afk > DR

[bold quiver]

hm

[vagrant mountain]

i have my vman on oceanman rn unoptimized getting 120~/hr with crafted food and 11x DR

can get to 200 with event food and 15x DR i believe

i get 1300% food effect on my vman

[elfin cape]

Couldn't find one, but I had 20x DR and 350 something AFK gains, IIRC

[bold quiver]

hm

high

[little pagoda]

Is active SB good for forge progress?

All I need is more bars to max post office

[vagrant mountain]

forge only refills on afk claims

[little pagoda]

meh, don't know if I wanna spend candies for that

But maybe splicing with him then

[vagrant mountain]

fastest forge progress is throwing all your archers on frogs on checking every 2 mins

[little pagoda]

Yeah that could work

[bold quiver]

why not gmush

its capped anyway

[little pagoda]

Frogs has higher mob count

Capped in 2 minutes?

[vagrant mountain]

depends on your forge talent level i think

[bold quiver]

yea

[little pagoda]

Multikill counts right? Idk if I have enough multikill to cap it that fast

[bold quiver]

cuz there is a limit to how much progress u can get

[elfin cape]

Found it @bold quiver

[little pagoda]

I can only reach around 3500 multikill

[elfin cape]

Vman, 20x DR and 350 something AFK gains

[vagrant mountain]

do you remember catching speed?

[elfin cape]

No, but probably a lot, maybe capped

[vagrant mountain]

catching is uncapped

[elfin cape]

Oh, so no idea

[vagrant mountain]

whats your feasty?

[elfin cape]

It was 220 then, I think

[vagrant mountain]

ah ok

[elfin cape]

Already Onyxed

[bold quiver]

damn no way i can get 300 statues per claim

[vagrant mountain]

so like 1700% food effect?

[bold quiver]

even with 19DR and 390% afk gains im only getting 170

[vagrant mountain]

dang

[bold quiver]

oh i forgot 1 food maybe it helps but i doub

[vagrant mountain]

food helps a lot

[elfin cape]

Careful to not use all your event food

[vagrant mountain]

especially now that feasty is cracked

[bold quiver]

wow 245

[vagrant mountain]

there u go big boy

[bold quiver]

meh its fine, i never have autoarm active

[vagrant mountain]

same autoarm is a trap

i got 99% non-consume on all my characters anyways

[bold quiver]

ever since i got autoarm i've only turned it on 1 week to push everyone on W5 to lampars, after that i turned t off again

[elfin cape]

Big, how many hours?

[old portal]

whats the cooldown for vman speedrun skill?

[elfin cape]

20~24h, I think?

Something like that

[old portal]

aight RIP tot i can farmit again after failing my run

[bold quiver]

81

better than W3, i was onlyy getting 80 statues thre

[elfin cape]

In total?

Very nice

[bold quiver]

20k/245

[elfin cape]

Yeah, W3 is pain

Poor candies

[bold quiver]

let me check the accuracyone

[bold quiver]

yeah =/

250h per statue, pain

not that much tho, could be higher

[elfin cape]

Acc one is bad too

[bold quiver]

oh well, at least this is my last and gg

i farmed everything else with dk, pretty chill

w5 was theonly slow one (compard to others)

[old portal]

should i get eldtrich on other first or just try completing it? only few boats can make to last island

[bold quiver]

wait, accuracy statue is inside a rare loot bag, cant i just farm it with DK then? '.'

[bold quiver]

whatever u prefer

[old portal]

nvm on fury eldtritch ists on 0.02% for me

[little pagoda]

ES is better since it's from main mob not crystal

[proud pumice]

the crystal doesn't have that bag, so es is better

[little pagoda]

I really wish vman was good at fighting so he would be useful for farming this kinda stuff]

[bold quiver]

but the normal monster has '.'

[little pagoda]

He has so many talents to help with that but he's so bad at killing

[proud pumice]

i think the only reason why dk is better than es at farming rare loot bag materials is because his orb counts for crystals

if there were no crystals es would be better at it

[bold quiver]

his orbs counts for any guaranteed loot '.'

it multipies it

[proud pumice]

yeah, but doesnt es wurmhole counts for main mob rare bag too?

[little pagoda]

Yes but ES gets a higher DR from wormhole mobs

And I think it's not even close

[bold quiver]

'.'

[proud pumice]

what i meant to say is that wormhole multiplies all main mob drops, but dk multiplies both main mob drop and crystal drop, so dk is better when crystal can help, otherwise es is better

[bold quiver]

DK is better for any loot inside a rare loot bag

because those inside are "guaranteed loot" so u multiply that drop by hit orb value

[proud pumice]

isnt that only because he multiplies crystals and crystals have a lot higher drop rate for bags?

[bold quiver]

what does he has to do with crystals

[little pagoda]

Rare drops are only guaranteed from crystals

[bold quiver]

he only multiplies loot, doesnt matter if its crystal or not lol

[little pagoda]

For normal mobs they have a low-ish drop rate

[bold quiver]

thats why DK can get an insane amount of keys on tremor wurms compared to ES

[little pagoda]

I think that's because wurms are too strong for wormhole

[bold quiver]

even tho portal monsters have boosted DR

[little pagoda]

But walking sticks have tiny hp

[proud pumice]

even if you have high wormhole kills in wurms?

if that's the case then you're right, i thought dk was better because he multiplies dr for crystals too, and crystals have like x50 chance to drop rare loot bags compared to normal mobs

[little pagoda]

At this point this is a crysral capybara map

[ocean fox]

Should I be prioritizing hourly click over atom production?

[bold quiver]

idk my wormhole on wurms can only rach 170ish iirc

and my DK gets 3x more keys

even SB drops more keys than ES lol

[little pagoda]

This is why ES isn't so good there, not because orb is better

[bold quiver]

i wouldnt

[little pagoda]

orb is better for crystals, but if wormhole could spawn crystals it could be better

[proud pumice]

idk then, if you think dk is better do it with him, you know more about the game then me

[bold quiver]

im just candying on SB cuz i need bars to finish iron vial '.'

[wind umbra]

hourly click better than atom production, Atom usage is limited, hourly clicks are not

[old portal]

what is hourly clicks?

[proud pumice]

when you can print 1b mats per hour you can hourly click the alchemy bubbles that cost 1b mats

[elfin cape]

Resource stacks cap at 1050m, and bubble cost at 1000M, so every hour when printer procs, you can get a bubble level

[old portal]

ow okay forgot printers can reach billions now

[ocean fox]

Hmmm ok

[elfin cape]

If you have the patience for it, hourly clicks are really strong

[bright rock]

yo, is there a reason my last four characters are greyed out in the divinity tab on ie? or just visual bug of some sorts

[elfin cape]

They are not on div altar

[manic moat]

I think it means they aren't gaining div

[old portal]

its ur chars on div

[manic moat]

Also, why isn't it showing any gods?

[bright rock]

weird, 2nd bubo is in lab with goharut like most my other dudes n is the only one not appearing active

doot > _ <

[manic moat]

...

[wind umbra]

yeah but 2nd bubo technically isnt on the altar

thats why its greyed out

[bright rock]

first isnt either

[manic moat]

not true, I have no one on the alter and I have some highlighted

[bright rock]

makes sense for the tranqi ones i got doing active stuff but idek

[bold quiver]

done amem

[wind umbra]

no clue then mine are all greyed out while not on altar

[bold quiver]

now just need another 10k kpow to finish!

[lone galleon]

inb4 you deposit them

[manic moat]

haha I'm halfway to 20k power still lol

I'm on day 4 of 24hour active

[old portal]

wait why is it hard for you to get pow statues?

[pure ember]

For individual hit shimmer challenge I am guessing seige breaker is the best one for that challenege?

[elfin cape]

Yeah, unless your ES isn't too far behind in damage

[wind umbra]

i havent gotten the trial so havent tested but i think it might be a tossup between sb and bubo

[little pagoda]

It's hard for everyone, only reasonable way is to complete the new quest with multiple characters

[elfin cape]

Wait, it's damage on a single hit, right? Haven't gotten that one

[wind umbra]

i think its multi hit

[old portal]

ow okay i guess didnt know it hrad i just afk for an hour and got 1k ish statues on beans? idk if its from prev afk session pre onyx

[little pagoda]

Not power statues, kachow statues

[old portal]

ow nvm

yeah kachow understandable

[little pagoda]

people call it kapow but I'm pretty sure it's called kachow lol

[wind umbra]

the guy said power tho

[bold quiver]

its kachow

https://tenor.com/view/kachow-cars-lightning-mc-queen-pixar-disney-gif-5931942

[elfin cape]

It's POW but named Kachow

[potent lily]

What statues do i get for the 17 types quest?

[bold quiver]

any 17 u can find

[elfin cape]

Any 17, doesn't amtter

[zinc torrent]

What should my second siege breaker specialize into?

[elfin cape]

Murder

[potent lily]

Yea but what are the easyst

[little pagoda]

The easiest statues seems to be either feasty or speed, I know I will deposit hundreds of thousands of feasties when I'm satisfied with my onyxes

I don't think I'll onyx every single statue either, not until later

[elfin cape]

Kill a couple crystals from W1/2/4/5 and you'll have enough

[potent lily]

K ty

[foggy apex]

whats this?

[wind umbra]

rare sailing mat

[foggy apex]

ah k

[placid mural]

i did a thing! lol

[elfin cape]

I did mine yesterday too! It's such a pain lmao

[placid mural]

it really is lol

[little pagoda]

That doesn't even look worth it tbh lol

[placid mural]

333 base stat is actually quite a lot

as is the 833 base all eff

[elfin cape]

Free stats and efficiency, you'll wanna spend pens anyway, no reason not to

[little pagoda]

Yeah the base stats is the best thing there

[placid mural]

i wouldnt turn your nose up on the efficiency either

everything to increase your printgs

[little pagoda]

But it does take hours of endless clicking so who knows

[elfin cape]

The eff is decent, but every bit of efficiency is valuable

[little pagoda]

idk how much base efficiency you can get from other sources but probably a lot more than 800 right?

[placid mural]

multitool is a big one

[elfin cape]

Yeah, but it's not negligible

[placid mural]

most of the increases are % efficiency increases which builds on your base eff

[feral hemlock]

This one is worth it?

[placid mural]

so it actually makes more of a difference than you might expect

[feral hemlock]

To max

[placid mural]

VERY

MUCH

YES

[feral hemlock]

Cool

[elfin cape]

Yeah, it's OP

[placid mural]

im going to be working on completing 100% quests for all mages/warriors over the next few weeks to max that out

[elfin cape]

Not max, as much as you need to reach the cap

[elfin cape]

Same, but I'm debating on ignoring Yondergreen

Fuck Yondergreen

[feral hemlock]

Lol just dumped 150 cause had excess points

[barren otter]

100% quest completion on everyone... wooo!

[placid mural]

yeah yondergreen is the main one im debating if i have the patience to do

[elfin cape]

Also, don't forget to do picnic daily on the resample day

[placid mural]

does each completion of that count as 1? or does it just not count at the start of each day?

[barren otter]

better min max now while you have the summer event quest available

[elfin cape]

Reset each day

[barren otter]

should be 9? additional quests completed for the skill iirc

[dapper prism]

Quick Ref PO Box when? xD

[barren otter]

quick ref prayers when...

[dapper prism]

At least PO so i can use these pens while active grinding

instead of being stuck

[dapper prism]

No need for quick ref prayer when next pet will be All prayers, no negatives

[elfin cape]

Just use this

[barren otter]

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/pipa-cat-pipa-cat-sazabio-pipa-cat-sazabio-gif-21107905

Is that... a joke?