lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[sharp wind]

did you know how many do i need to reach 100?

[opaque sun]

Like around 30k on a warrior

[dapper prism]

Depends on stamp too

[gentle anchor]

this is the max %cooking speed from blood marrow 34.737.09O.OOO.OOO% or 34.7T%

[opaque sun]

On non wars they need like roughly 10x as in around 300k

[dapper prism]

40k => 74% with Warri talent 267
40k => 74.3% with warri talent 307

(Stamp at 72 atm)

[placid fox]

alr wrong look up there's a 222t%

[gentle anchor]

bruh

i did a miss calculation

[placid fox]

as some may say... WORTH

[opaque sun]

sigil and yarn eldritch is a big factor to gold food

[dapper prism]

Mhmm beautiful... did full W3 eclipse and realized i forgot to lvl that new MK star talent

[tall horizon]

meh

very minimal impact

[dapper prism]

Some day...
https://i.imgur.com/mG3CrRO.png

[opaque sun]

bubo also scales gold food on himself slightly good via his family guy

[placid fox]

in 29d for me

[dapper prism]

Idk, feel like +500% ontop of 10k is still a 5% increase in MK 🤷

[tall horizon]

that probably added like 10k kills/hr i spose

[dapper prism]

And here i was thinking im "getting closer" xD

[placid fox]

xd

[dapper prism]

W6 sigil boost?

[dapper prism]

Damn that'd be a lot less than i would assume

[placid fox]

i don't have all 10 bought tho

[tall horizon]

base mk is really

[gentle anchor]

is the lava armor better than the divine armor?

[dapper prism]

Situational

[placid fox]

for most of the time yes

[gentle anchor]

ow bruh

[dapper prism]

for stats, dmg, money, not

[gentle anchor]

when is lava better

[placid fox]

stats dmg money

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

so only 1 whar with divine?

[dapper prism]

Nawh

[opaque sun]

450% base mk isnt anything to sleep on tho. Its still like equivalent of 10% mk per tier stat on lower mobs, 45% mk per tier on higher mobs

[placid fox]

i would say half divine half lava

on some characterws

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

[dapper prism]

Check the link

[opaque sun]

Its basically giving a similar bonus of one more trilobite artifact

[placid fox]

OOF

[tall horizon]

20k, more than i expected lol

[dapper prism]

right picture is.. leet

1337

Let's gooo!

[placid fox]

xd

[tall horizon]

lol

[opaque sun]

on against w5 mobs, its equivalent of 50% multikill per tier

[tall horizon]

what..?

[dapper prism]

Because you'd have a lot less tiers on high mobs

[opaque sun]

Like if you are getting 8x damage tier, 50 * 8 = 450

[dapper prism]

Like im only at 1975% MK on worms with my DK right now

[opaque sun]

Getting 50% mk tier on a mob you get 8 damage tier is same as getting a flat 450%

[placid fox]

so it's bad for green mush stacking

xd

[opaque sun]

On mush its like 10% mk per tier equivalent

[tall horizon]

its not worth the star talents in most cases

much more useful stuff

[opaque sun]

Its still something like wearing a chip

[rustic garnet]

50*8 .... 400 :p

[dapper prism]

Idk, i have spare star talents

[opaque sun]

150 star talent for 10-50% mk per tier is good use

[sacred monolith]

Is farming accuracy statues pretty slow or am I doing something wrong?

[opaque sun]

Sorry guess like 50 * 9

[placid fox]

if u want to think it another whay is that the star talent is 5 times better than a max upgraded death note in construction... idk that one doesn't feel to good

[paper sail]

Just like Stat Overload. You either have the excess points or you don't 🤷

[opaque sun]

like sb on gmush duty isnt hungry for star points so its good on him

[dapper prism]

With that, fun question i never thought. Does Alch bubble extra talent pts also give star talent pts? 🤔

[opaque sun]

Its not a skill related talent so usually you can choose depending on the preset

On a combat preset, you should have lot of extra star talent to spare, while on a skill preset you can ignore mk

[little pagoda]

You guys are missing the point of that star talent

[placid fox]

anyone know wich lvl is the next breakpoint?

[little pagoda]

For us normies who are still pushing w5, if we get a single mk tier, that talent is absolutely amazing

[opaque sun]

Just dont sleep on it because its a “flat mk is bad”

[livid raft]

whats the best way to get obols to register in the slab? Ive got a plat agi obol Ive tried equipting it a few times.. still no luck

[paper sail]

No. 75% at max purchase

[opaque sun]

“flat mk with a small %” is bad to be more accurate

[little pagoda]

That talent is catchup mechanic not endgame bis

[placid fox]

if ur still pushing w5 can u say u can obtain 20k power statues and 100k statues in a reasonable time to make it up

[little pagoda]

I can obtain statues no problem

Juuust finished my second char

[tall horizon]

you realize that only applies to endgamers right? most people dont have hoards of points sitting around lol

[placid fox]

but, in a reasonable time?

[little pagoda]

Pretty reasonable, less than a day

[paper sail]

The wiki sure does 🙂 https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Alchemy/Kazam_Cauldron

[little pagoda]

And it's good because pens are very useful for me, so are obol fragments etc

[placid fox]

take in mind 1 day of statues farming is 1 day of not pushing

[opaque sun]

like cant you make a decision where to use 150 pts?

[little pagoda]

I can push now or I can push later when I'm much stronger, it doesn't really matter that much

I'm only up to the skull guys, I'll push to oranges and stay there a bit

[opaque sun]

Im not saying early gamers should raise this mk talent first

[tall horizon]

there are a lot of useful star talent that should be prioritzed over flat mk for those who dsont have a lot

[dapper prism]

But you can Max Tab 1 star talent for more points, spend them, then reset class talents

[placid fox]

yeah but that's what i meant for a reasonable time, u can stop playing the game after w4 and let nblb scale u forever

[opaque sun]

But its a nice option for a 150 star talent

[abstract geyser]

does this only work once I assume and not as many times as you want for more points

[little pagoda]

I'm doing w5 skills, I'm doing construction, alchemy, sampling, I'm progressing nonetheless, reaching kruk won't help me right now

[opaque sun]

In a way, its a biiiiiig boost for early gamers who sucks at deathnote, but 150 in there is an instant 200-450% (depending on their onyx)

[little pagoda]

I can maybe push w5 for bubo but what's the point if I can't 1 shot wurms

[paper sail]

Just like anvil points, this puts you into borrowed/negative land. If you gained 200 star points with this trick, you have to earn 201 more before you would actually have 1 new point to spend

[placid fox]

w5 boss weapons still matter

[opaque sun]

150 star talent is manageable and star talent reset is relatively cheap anyway

[abstract geyser]

Ah okay my next question was if it was like the production points my archer gets ty

[little pagoda]

weapons are kinda minor update compared to some other stuff, I don't even know if I could get the necessary materials

[valid ledge]

i just got to wurms
and a crystal hit for for 23k dmg
not fatal
but not expected

[opaque sun]

Its not like once spent, you are stuck on that for 5 years

[tall horizon]

go start a new account, reach onyx statues and show me you have 150 spare star talent points.

[placid fox]

most of the weapons bring up by 1 the speed of attacking that resoults in a big gain

[tall horizon]

as someone who has dozens of alt accounts, you're wrong.

[little pagoda]

ok, counterpoint, weapons are salt locked and anvil tab 5 locked

[dapper prism]

Main thing on last weapons is the mob respawn too 8-10-12%

[little pagoda]

You guys don't remember the struggle of mid game and it shows lol

[opaque sun]

Anyway, the point is that the opportunity cost is cheap and can be reset if you decide you dont need it

[little pagoda]

Refinery takes forever for green salts

[placid fox]

anvil tab 5 is killing katlekruck on diferrent dificulty and salt of w4 is expect for w5 boss anywhay

[little pagoda]

I can't go past void weapons

[abstract geyser]

ugh dont remind me i need to farm Black Lenses lmao am ready to start working towards void as soon as i get nobi i think, ive got a 100% option now just waiting for the 1.3k div points to accumulate with my poor lvl 4-5 peeps

[dapper prism]

Never say you can't!

[little pagoda]

I can't go past void weapons YET

[dapper prism]

That's the spirit!

[little pagoda]

Nullo salt too

[placid fox]

are u ranking up the refinery?

[opaque sun]

as i said, im not saying to go raise the onyx mk talent as first priority. Its a nice option when distributing your star talents

[little pagoda]

Yup

[placid fox]

or whats holding u back? just time?

[little pagoda]

I've been playing 2 months there's certain things I just can't reach yet and that's fine

[dapper prism]

Gets easier if/when you have Omni and run it on your lab alts for a few days

[pearl cedar]

Don't remember who was asking about candying w3 statues earlier. But this is on dk woth 16.63 dr.

[opaque sun]

im just saying dont ignore it completely just becuase its a “flat mk” that many people treat it like a plague

[little pagoda]

Unlocked omni but don't have the unlinks for it

[paper sail]

I member

[dapper prism]

Why candy on dk? 👀

[placid fox]

86 statues not worth

[little pagoda]

I would argue that is early game but you get it

[paper sail]

I mean that account is in w4 lmao

[pearl cedar]

Oh just cause my vman is busy lol I'll switch in a second. They were just saying there were getting 28 statues an hour

[tall horizon]

ya lol, not worth the hundreds of hours

[opaque sun]

candy w3 on dk is if you are too lazy to give the dr gear to vman

[placid fox]

btw i can remember the strugle of midgame.. last time i was midgame, that was consider w2 xd

[little pagoda]

Just semantics but for me, early game is pushing worlds, mid game is pushing bonuses up to w5 skills and mechanics, late game is minmaxing everything

[dapper prism]

Oh, i still use ES for the MK > Eclipse if you need that

[paper sail]

imo you're not out of early game until you reach current last map 🤷 but everyone has their own definition

[pearl cedar]

Oh i finished with eclipse like 3 months ago

[opaque sun]

like if you been farming active on dk, just changing prayers and candy is a reasonable thing to do than taking time to gear up vman

[abstract geyser]

Ive only JUST hit world 5 a few days ago and still feel like im in the early game with how much more I can improve a character

[pearl cedar]

Yeah I don't think it is worth spending 600 hours of candy but haven't decided yet.

[placid fox]

early game pre w5. mid game boss w5. end game last rift bonus... late game is in the middle

[little pagoda]

Yeah can be that, but it depends if you're rushing end of w5 or not, if you do then it can be early game

[tall horizon]

just spend a day active es 🤷

[pearl cedar]

Figured if I don't candy I have a solid 3 or 4 days of ES

[opaque sun]

my dk has like 20x dr, and i went like “i dont feel like moving gears just to get 21x on vman to candy”

[paper sail]

Highly disagree on last rift being end game 🤣 I've had that since basically the day it released and still have plenty to do

[pearl cedar]

Candy gets rid of content too quick. Gotta artificially make it last

[little pagoda]

Ok now the REAL questiong, what should my 3rd character to do monolith quest be? With about 12 DR

[dapper prism]

@opaque sun while i have you here, did you 5* cardifie easy resource furnace? (still need 4k cards)

[opaque sun]

the forge, yes

Im not waiting for 11th char

[dapper prism]

Also, only first forge or 2nd too just for completion type of thing?

[placid fox]

the thing is that endgame definition is when u don't unlock anything meanfull for the game anymore.. past that anything u do is completionist but it is right to call ruby cards engame cause it's a meanfull unlock

[opaque sun]

the cardify gems easily farmable via kattle anyway

[paper sail]

The problem is moreso having a limited number of 5* cardifiers

[dapper prism]

Yeh, still got a bunch, i try to buy them all when they rotate in

[placid fox]

im on rift 41 still waiting to grow more my dmg to get called endgame again

[opaque sun]

i ignored 2nd forge as im not in a rush for medium resource set

[paper sail]

Endgame to me when I can't easily put together a list like this

[opaque sun]

The first forge was basically as a puzzle piece for the easy resource set that is used alot

[placid fox]

that's what i call completionist

[dapper prism]

Yeh, that's why i was wondering 🙂
2nd i know would just be for visuals

[opaque sun]

In a similar reason, cardified yum yum desert for worship (food bonus)

[paper sail]

What in w2 was worth cardifying? Dig Doug or Bob?

[opaque sun]

my account didnt spam bandit bob card enough

[paper sail]

Fair

[dapper prism]

You can spam bandit cards?

[paper sail]

I think I have 1 character left that hasn't turned in the quest for BB

[dapper prism]

Also, when would one even use yum-yum desert set? 🤔

[opaque sun]

You can click multiple times to make him drop multiple times

For worship

[paper sail]

Worship, baby

[opaque sun]

Worship scales better on food than efficiency

[dapper prism]

Ohh

[paper sail]

To elaborate: Until you turn in the quest, you can also cloudsave and get more cards each time.

[opaque sun]

after certain point, the soul gain bonus from efficiency comes near to a halt

[lapis mesa]

man, i really need to start writing all the little bits down

[placid fox]

it's a complex game

[abstract geyser]

did i get lucky or something cuz i have a blue star bb card so i dont need him to drop more

[paper sail]

5* cards exist

[opaque sun]

Its also the reason while its nice to keep vman’s worship lvl ahead of ES’s, its not as detrimental if ES gets higher

[paper sail]

Like I need 365 more

[dapper prism]

305 for me, but also did it on all alts >.>

[opaque sun]

next tier (emerald?) of bandit bob card will definitely be relied on cardifier

[abstract geyser]

I mean, i suppose. I already hit like 120% money on cards so i wouldnt be doing that till it was one of the last things I had to do for shits n giggles but i know thats just me

[paper sail]

Forfeting the "bullets for bandit bob" quest didn't get more cards for me. Maybe it is based on Cowbo's Notorious B.O.B quest

[patent hatch]

What are the future content blog things, new mobs?

[dapper prism]

Probably W6 npc's?

[opaque sun]

Seems more like npc

[paper sail]

It isn't for the shitty bonus on the card itself. It is for the W2 card set to get to 5*

[twin token]

Nah

[tall horizon]

has to be done prior to getting any quests from bob

[patent hatch]

World six so soon wow

[twin token]

U can get 20 cards a day btw if u click twice on bob

[abstract geyser]

yeah that was the only reason i could see doing it, makes sense then

[dapper prism]

even after finishing the quest?

[twin token]

I'm gonna have to Juice up my es soon

Not after

Just before

[hybrid halo]

I ignored completing easy resources card set and forge, goldfish and butterflies are the only ones I have 5 starred. Didn’t use cardifier

[dapper prism]

Just because there's some art, doesnt mean the backend stuff is done or started o.o
Although typically, it should be

[twin token]

But if u click twice rlly quick he drops 10 cards twice

[opaque sun]

Mobs usually have black beady eyes as a common trait. The slime in future content has blue shaded eyes

The red slime is definitely npc

[fallow aurora]

getting 111, 333, and 444 but the games refuse to give 777

[dapper prism]

What if.. New companion 😄

[twin token]

Oh no I don't have sheepie yet

[abstract geyser]

oh no but i still need doot and ram

[paper sail]

The repeatability is based on Notorious BOB, just verified

1. Forfeit Notorious BOB if you have it
2. Forfeit Bullets for BB if you have it
3. Cloudsave at player menu
4. Zone back in, collect 20 cards by clicking him repeatedly, quickly. Forfeit Bullets for BB again
5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until 5*

[dapper prism]

@barren otter I got a new nugget!!! Guess what it is? 😄

[barren otter]

NINETEEN K

LOL

[dapper prism]

10k to 13k to 15k to 17k to... 18k
https://i.imgur.com/smkNeab.png

[barren otter]

LOLOLOLOL

[dapper prism]

320% shovel too xD

[abstract geyser]

gaming is kinda fun/neat, but its feeling real slow to start going thankful for all those progress items from the starting w5 quests

[dapper prism]

1/554 odds 😦 (If this thing is legit)
https://i.imgur.com/LKYafqh.png

[barren otter]

wait

[fallow aurora]

I saved them, Idk why should I use them now?

[lapis mesa]

guess i did pretty good on my nugget then, wonder why im having such a hard time pushing gaming otherwise

[barren otter]

put my nugget value in there

and tell me the odds of it

[little pagoda]

It starts to grow kinda exponentially after a while, then it stalls again

[barren otter]

oh right

176,942

[dapper prism]

No lottery games for you anymore...
https://i.imgur.com/bLBhE8V.png

[barren otter]

lol

[dapper prism]

That's if your shovel is the same

What was your shovel btw?

[paper sail]

Being lazy paid off Never doing this quest now incase he adds 6* cards

lmao

[abstract geyser]

i mean why not aha

[abstract geyser]

all da red cards

[barren otter]

oh lmfao

way lower than yours

[paper sail]

Slowly but surely

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/XFAUbS6.png

[barren otter]

1 in 21.7k

lmfao

[dapper prism]

But remember, it's a bit biased

Since that's for that specific nugget itself afaik

[barren otter]

ah yea but good enough of an estimate

[dapper prism]

Not sure if the % includes that "or" higher

[little pagoda]

If the calculator is for a specific value no matter what the odds will be low, that's why in statistics you always calculate for a certain percentile, not for a specific outcome

[little pagoda]

If it doesn't, it's not even useful tbh, but easy to check, just input 100 and see if it's a low value

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/Mz6io8k.png

[paper sail]

I think they meant a target nugget value of 100, not shovel level

[little pagoda]

Seems like it calculates a specific value?

[little pagoda]

yeah that's what I mean

Or input the lowest possible value and see if the odds are 100%

Just a quick sanity check

[dapper prism]

Whats your nugget range?

[little pagoda]

lemme see

121-193K

Level 97

Try 121 and see what it says

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/eBi12GS.png

297 nugget is 1 of 1 🤔

This thing is confusing me more and more

[little pagoda]

Seems like the parameters of the calculator are wrong but it does calculate for x or higher

Because I definitely get nuggets lower than 297

[paper sail]

Trickz didn't put in your shovel level of 97

Still says 225

[little pagoda]

ah

[dapper prism]

Oh i honestly didnt realize it's a different eprson xD

[little pagoda]

But nonetheless, it does calculate for anything higher

[dapper prism]

yeh it s1 of 1 if its between 121 and 122
0.9910272872
1.003854354

So probably a decimal rounding on the nugget for that part

[exotic juniper]

Where is that calculator?

My shovel was lvl 93 when I hit 155,000 nugget. What are those odds?

[lapis mesa]

geez, 155k

[dapper prism]

Nugget Calculator, Nugget Time/Timer, Fertilizer Upgrade Cost
File -> Make Copy (to edit values)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jnlm608mrNraLkd6wTmXkKAH02Oavnpwz9NfDk0eTHk/edit#gid=0

[dapper prism]

1 in 77'005

[exotic juniper]

Nice

[hybrid halo]

Cries in 39K nugg

[lapis mesa]

do you guys run kitsune regluarly? or not worth the loss for you

[dapper prism]

You got chems yet?

[lapis mesa]

yeah

[opaque sun]

when snail resets i use them

[lapis mesa]

im trying to get to snail actually

its a bit of a jump

[barren otter]

lava why did you make this so shit...

[exotic juniper]

Same. At 100m bits 500 to go.

Next week sometime probably.

[opaque sun]

If you can manage to harvest like every hour, use kitsune. If not then probably better not to

[dapper prism]

Excessive but could have been per wave instead of 10 waves, to actually make a decent change.

[barren otter]

i mean the easiest thing to do is just make it a seperate multiplier

[fast verge]

dam this doesnt get effected by kill buffs

[dapper prism]

If you're like me.. stay stuck on chems with kitty on
https://i.imgur.com/vMBFuyz.png

[paper sail]

Not while online, no

[opaque sun]

Active only counts base kills

[dapper prism]

MK works offline for quests*

[static zinc]

what do i buy

[opaque sun]

when in doubt, 20% garbage

[dapper prism]

Apparently, 6 trash then Bribe?

[fast verge]

mk
gonna be a few weeks before i do that then

[lapis mesa]

i have up to t5 on each plant, and according to the calc t6 is next to impossible

[dapper prism]

Isnt your portal that size anyways?

[exotic juniper]

Is that the Strat?

[static zinc]

6 ttrash it is

[hybrid halo]

I have a level 5 chem sitting around for 3 weeks now waiting for it to to reach 6

[fast verge]

i do active only

around 170k kill an hour

so its possible

[lapis mesa]

just trying to figure out the jump from 2b for that super bit, to 600b for snail

[dapper prism]

3min cycle, 10x T5's on map should "only" be 150 days. Keep in mind chem and log skips count for the average

[dapper prism]

You don't go for T6's like that

[barren otter]

my fishing exp multiplier went from 13.3x to 14.01x from that superbit btw

[hybrid halo]

[lapis mesa]

with kitsune on, i have a 7 min cycle, guess ill try for t6 for the multiplier

[opaque sun]

aint much, but honest work

[abstract geyser]

[lapis mesa]

so the more of a specific t5 i have the better? or is it just so i roll 10x chances when it rolls

[paper sail]

My god, the alt account finally finished collecting 50 coolers. 3+ hours every day with no auto-loot is brutal

[hexed crescent]

When are we getting a 'auto-trash obol' option??

[opaque sun]

get your little brother to click the obol inventory slot on sell mode

[hexed crescent]

I'm a grown man

[abstract geyser]

ahahaha

[paper sail]

The first slot, specifically

[opaque sun]

Any slot honestly

[paper sail]

Fair, but may as well do first

[hexed crescent]

Is 'little brother' what you call your auto clicker?

[abstract geyser]

[paper sail]

Speaking of such things is a swift mute/ban my guy

[hexed crescent]

for real?

[dapper prism]

Rule 4

[paper sail]

#server-rules rule 4 yes

[hexed crescent]

rule 4 says we can't discuss cheating. Afaik auto clicking is legal?

[paper sail]

Reading too hard I guess

[hexed crescent]

Awh yeah, I guess it mentions it specifically lol

[pearl cedar]

Reading hard

[paper sail]

I'd delete your comments before you get slapped

[hexed crescent]

It was an honest mistake, seems obvious enough

[dapper prism]

And then they see the deleted stuff specifically in the other channel and make it more obvious

[opaque sun]

abusing your brother is not prohibited by server rules

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-blinking-blink-blinkshocked-gif-13221251

[dapper prism]

Trying to read the rules:
https://tenor.com/view/ken-jeong-cant-see-this-funny-gif-14446155

[twilit goblet]

child Slavery

[lament jasper]

Wait to they see our deleted messages on anorher channel?

[static zinc]

[opaque sun]

admins can still see deleted ones

[paper sail]

Well sure but I've yet to see them outright ban for a first time offense like that, usually just a mute

[lament jasper]

Oooh i see

Im just delivering some things in schrodinger channel

[hybrid halo]

I saw that, twice. Not even admin.

[dapper prism]

Usually a discord server will create a channel with a bot that shows every deleted or changed message, easier to track negative things that way.

[abstract geyser]

god damnit your name chuckled

[lament jasper]

The walls are listening...

[twilit goblet]

Big brother is watching you..

[zealous niche]

Little brother sometimes does too

[static zinc]

looks like this usally

[hybrid halo]

Realistically admins or mods don’t actively read the logs unless there’s a specific reason to do so.

[twilit goblet]

10 years since they invaded, these goblins aint stopping yet

TD is such a random piece of content that i'd never imagine seeing in idleon, props to lava

[sharp vine]

If only it was a little more interesting

[hybrid halo]

Or less time consuming

[paper sail]

less.. lazily designed? Is that fair to say?

[twilit goblet]

forced AFK in mechanics, pls understand

🤣

[paper sail]

"Hmmm what should I have this wave be? 100x hp? Yep, that's fun"

[hybrid halo]

I’ve ended runs because it would have taken hours. Back to levelling the towers I guess.

[paper sail]

I'm a big fan of TD games usually. I think having it within IdleOn with our regular characters is just too limiting

[signal osprey]

To be fair he has acknowledged on stream that he doesn't like TD as it is currently and wants to change the kraken your bosses for 3 hours gameplay

[paper sail]

Can't wait

[signal osprey]

The problem is actually finding a solution while continuing game development

Gonna take some time

[paper sail]

1/10th enemy hp, Kraken is now a root but can only hit each enemy once or something. Yolo and test. Make it take 20 minutes or less.

[hexed crescent]

In other words, best get your highscores in now

[paper sail]

I don't love coming back from a 45 minute stall to a whitescreen

[hybrid halo]

You still get white screens?

[paper sail]

In Cogs and TD only

[hybrid halo]

Haven’t seen one in some time

[placid mural]

What usually causes a white screen?

[paper sail]

I avoid doing those 2 things as much as I can lol

[opaque sun]

whitescreens are caused by when a application session reaches certain number of clicks (and being on a certain whitescreen susceptible screen)

[hybrid halo]

Last for me was ES active afk, only happened once.

[opaque sun]

If you watch out not to click too much, you can often prevent whitescreens

[hybrid halo]

Or when using the browser version, running out of memory or something like that

[opaque sun]

Also restarting app time to time

Game freezing is usually a different cause like using bubo sizzling skulls and such that are lava coded to leave memory junk after each use

[loud isle]

Am looking at the spice guide, anyone know what Atomic NBLB means?

[hybrid halo]

Why use sizzling skulls smh

[elfin cape]

When the bubble costs 100M+

[opaque sun]

when no bubble left behind takes care of those spice bubbles, you dont focus on certain spice harvests

spice then just becomes mere currency to upgrade kitchen

[little pagoda]

Atom collider upgrade to no bubble left behind

[opaque sun]

Maybe in 2030 where we harvest 1b spices every click, then we may reconsider having a focused spice teams again

[loud isle]

Think am missing something, what does spices have to do with alchemy? :p

[opaque sun]

Some yellow cauldron bubbles uses spices

[loud isle]

ah cool got it now. So it's saying, you can just let NBLB handle those and ignore those spices?

[opaque sun]

before no bubbles left behind goes online, you have to manually raise those bubbles using spices, and that is why people focus on beach spices which is used for the important diamond chef bubble

[stuck pasture]

Sigh why is the onyx statue dude not account wide, farming on my DK but had the quest line on my ES… now I’m soft locked until I get 20k more power statues lol

[loud isle]

Can you not use the hammer multiple times?

[opaque sun]

When no bubble left behind starts to take care of that, the spice cost of bubble gets too high that you are never gonna harvest enough to raise those bubbles normally

[loud isle]

Ah perfect, thanks 🙂

[opaque sun]

So that is when you no longer need to treat beach spice like a special spice

[stuck pasture]

Nope it was a one time use

[loud isle]

Perfect, thanks

[opaque sun]

onyx is account wide, so not sure whats your issue

if you talking about doing the 100k statues farming, that doesnt have to be via combat

[upbeat falcon]

What are the bonuses from onyx statues?

[opaque sun]

Like you can send the guy to mine some dreadlo with few candies to get relatively easy 100k

2x more effect of that statue, and also all future statues gives 10% more exp

There are 25 statues, so when all are onyx all future deposits gives 250% more statue exp

[upbeat falcon]

Okay I see

[serene solstice]

this makes me sad

[tidal sky]

snake vial multiplies that or just additive?

[upbeat falcon]

what is your drop rate for that? That sounds insane

[opaque sun]

Dr of 20x using mining food gets like 2000-3000 per hour

[stuck pasture]

I started the quest on my ES, got up to the 20k quest and switched to DK to farm. ES handed them in and got the chisel. Saw the requirement for 100k and switched back to DK and he used the chisel. Because he wasn’t up to that part of the quest it is now soft locked

[upbeat falcon]

Wow I still have quite a bit to work towards on drop rate for those numbers

[serene solstice]

just do the quest on your dk then?

[stuck pasture]

Ie I can’t make onyx statues yet until I get 20k again on my DK

[stuck pasture]

Yeah I know, just gonna take a while to get 20k again lol

[hybrid halo]

Why wouldn’t one do the quest on DK first?

[opaque sun]

yeah just dont share chisels like sharing needles

[stuck pasture]

My ES is my main character

[paper sail]

If 20k power takes a while, you might be forcing content early

[serene solstice]

I don't have a main character anymore since the new elite classes came

(BB was before my main class)

[tight ridge]

guys why is there no guide about shiny pets

[twilit goblet]

just got zerg rushogen, the afk prayer, but really dont feel like resampling

[serene solstice]

because there is no need for a guide

[hybrid halo]

I’ve completed the quest on 2 DK, 2 ES and Vman. But farmed all power statues on DK.

[tight ridge]

i need one ;-;

[stuck pasture]

Well 2 nights of active, I’m halfway there just a word of warning not to share needles

[serene solstice]

you just use the shiny pets with the perk you want

[stuck pasture]

Chisels*

[opaque sun]

There was a guide image of shiny pets somewhere, not sure where

[paper sail]

For what, exactly? There is a list of which pet gives which bonus in #1084911530417606656

[serene solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741696802666840167/1098559131062906891/ShinyPetEffect.png

[little pagoda]

Can Lava give me the sailing artifact for max plate levels yet?

[serene solstice]

you mean this?

[tight ridge]

like idk how to set them up in the fenceyard should i put all shrooms and planks for the speed or one of each shiny idk

[serene solstice]

I go always for 5 of each I lvl up

[opaque sun]

one of each important stat if you are lazy to frequently update fence

[little pagoda]

Tchnically if you do pet speed first you get everything done faster but I don't see why not level up some easy and useful ones along with them if you want

[modern plaza]

u want lvl 5 or 6 for all the shiny speed pets first

[pearl cedar]

Would take speed pets up to level 6 or so first

[opaque sun]

shiny pet speed first if you can manage to swap around for min max

[tight ridge]

why lvl 6 exactly

[opaque sun]

I just do the “one of each important ones” so that i can be lazy

[modern plaza]

the returns get worse and worse

[opaque sun]

Around lv5-6, the scaling of exp requirement gets noticeably longer

[pearl cedar]

I took mine to 7, but all my other pets were at 5 by then

[opaque sun]

You can continue past 6, but just expect a huge diminishing returns of slower leveling

[elfin cape]

Around what wave of TD5 can I get with poison 59 and atom 140%?

[icy jewel]

at what point in gaming do i just start yolo'ing new mutations, i have veraci and 100 plants is only like 4.9% chance

[elfin cape]

I have no idea how TD scales

[icy jewel]

3 unlocks left

[lapis mesa]

you can start yoloing now

[icy jewel]

sounds good

[lapis mesa]

couple harvests and go

[opaque sun]

like you yolo mutations from the start

[elfin cape]

Always, just harvest and click

[icy jewel]

all right dope thanks

[opaque sun]

More you save up, each dna gives less % chance

[icy jewel]

noticed it drops off fast....

[lapis mesa]

the final one youll yolo on .1 constantly

[icy jewel]

wasnt like that for the first 3

omg talk about rng

[opaque sun]

100 tries of 0.1% is better than 5 tries of 0.3%

[little pagoda]

I can reach 0.3 with 1 harvest I'm pretty sure?

[pearl cedar]

That's w5 for you

[icy jewel]

yeah i had to stop half way thru pushing it since i rushed 104

1-4. not enough damage

been splicing all day

[lapis mesa]

i need to go do more splicing, really dont want to though

[icy jewel]

i hate it the most...

[lapis mesa]

so im redoing my TDs since its been a while, another thing i didnt want to do lol

[icy jewel]

i neeed oozie soul but my towers so low level i can't beat wave 10 even

[hot void]

Is this normal?

[icy jewel]

not redoing TD probably for a couple months i need mad levels

[hot void]

I upgraded one and they all upgrad

[lapis mesa]

what in the world did you break

[hybrid halo]

Probably a visual bug

[icy jewel]

what the hell did you do lmao

[hybrid halo]

Reset your game

[hot void]

Ok

[hybrid halo]

Interesting tho, never seen that before.

[icy jewel]

ive never bought base damage

[hot void]

Hey is back to normal thanks

[icy jewel]

w

[hybrid halo]

I did so that’s probably not what caused it.

[crystal raven]

🤏

i have three extra luckylads feels like such a waste to trash them though

[modern plaza]

lol u’ll get more dw

[crystal raven]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-my-precious-scream-gif-17264451

[keen flame]

Any thoughts on which shimmer island reward is best? Xp, dmg, stats?

[crystal raven]

skill eff

[twilit goblet]

do you guys just keep printing goldfish/atom for this bubble? or it's not that big of a deal

[opaque sun]

did hourly clicks till like lv1000 (38% dr) on mine

[twilit goblet]

hmm fish prints into hourly clicks, i think i can do that too after im done with kraken vials

[opaque sun]

gold fish are relatively easy to print so didnt use atom on it

[twilit goblet]

good idea

are the % DR here the same as the one in arcade store

[opaque sun]

your usual additive one

[twilit goblet]

then quite big still, arcade is expensive afterall

[night vale]

every last bit of DR is additive except the x1.2 multi from the pack a couple patches ago

[opaque sun]

+26％ > +36 is more than 10% dr increase as plunder/gem bundle bonus will further apply to that 10%

[fading dust]

What're the best bubbles to atom 👀

[opaque sun]

early on getting those hardcap bubbles to 80-90% effectivity

Later on slap or bob

[fading dust]

Oh gotcha, the ones that plateau quickly?

[opaque sun]

Bob is linear growth, but affects construction which is kind if big

[fading dust]

Monster mats are getting hard to get enough mats for without the printer

[opaque sun]

Slap is quadratic scaling which means more levels you get, each level gives more and more bonus

[twilit goblet]

is plunder and gem bundle bonus additive to each other?

since they are both multiplicative

[little pagoda]

I think they both multiply independently

[opaque sun]

i think it was 1.2 * 1.2 = 1.44x

rough figure as plunder will not be exact 1.2

[dry frigate]

is kruk armor or lava armor better for damage

[opaque sun]

for pure damage, magma tends to do better but also depends on your main stats

kurk offers the utility misc stats that magma cant offer so both have specific uses

[dry frigate]

thank yuou

just want damage to beat kruk on vman

[dry frigate]

is there any benefits in getting past round 200

[loud isle]

Don't think so

[fervent brook]

Your active characters probably is better off with Kruk armor. Sampling/AFK is a different story.

[paper nova]

Does lab not count for afk time? I just ran 22hrs to get w1 board task marked off for 20 hrs afk and it didn't count it

[loud isle]

lab should count, same as all afk time you can get double etc

[icy jewel]

yeah... it should you sure you meant 22 hours.... or 22K hours....

cuz im pretty sure the task is 20K hours of idle time not 20 hours man

[paper nova]

o.O maybe i read it wrong and it's a total of 22k

[icy jewel]

lol

[paper nova]

that would make more sense. I was wondering why i missed such an easy task

[icy jewel]

the last one is 250k idle hours

iirc

[twilit goblet]

how much gold fish were you printing back then? just did a basic resample and my goldfish is 44m per hour only

so maybe 2 clicks per day

[untold hearth]

i just unlocked the shovel in gaming and was wondering how it worked? is this multi permanent or just on next plant collection?

[icy jewel]

click it

the nugget number gives you a multiplier. only works every hour

[sick sentinel]

Largest nug is saved

[icy jewel]

the smallest ones just get deleted

[lost beacon]

candy good to me

[untold hearth]

oh so the largest nug will stay around for an hour?

[twilit goblet]

[cedar sun]

Biggest nugget is permanent

[sick sentinel]

Until you roll a higher one

[untold hearth]

oh damn thats kinda cracked no?

[sick sentinel]

Its good but heavily weighted towards low rolls

[icy jewel]

you can re roll one once per hour

you can save up to like 8 rolls or something on a click but that ends being like a week of waiting

ie same time gating mechanic like renting out the books.

[untold hearth]

thanks guys i was able to get almost x7 on first click i imagine it will get even crazier later game

[icy jewel]

two rolls is like 2 hours 3 rollls like 9 hours i dont know the exact numbers

but you can click it every hour if you can do it if not just click when you go there everytime

reset that timer

[icy jewel]

i went from like 7 to 25 then got a 300 roll

now im around 725 ( im new) some people have insane nuggets

ive seen a 128k

dunno how high they go?

[untold hearth]

its exciting to see numbers go up :>

[icy jewel]

they seem to go up easier as you progress idk

or its just straight up rng.

[north juniper]

What damage did you peeps kill nightmare kruk with on Vman

[grand karma]

im waiting till i get 50b, aint no way im sitting there for a hour

[visual tangle]

best spot for vman crystal farming?

[opaque sun]

like 500m per hour

[twilit goblet]

total? damn that's pretty pogg

fishing bubble is just the tools bubble huh

[opaque sun]

sample wise its like 50m but that gets multiplied by 6x hare/lab and also the printer bonus from artifact and DK

[lavish grotto]

is it all by chance for gaming plants to grow to their final stage

despair

[opaque sun]

Its just chance. And each subsequent tier is harder than the previous tier

[twilit goblet]

oh I'm only 7m base goldfish sample

so definitely quite a way to go

Some clicks per day is still good in the long run

[fast verge]

for gaming is it best for spam collect as soon as growth or wait for maxed out tiers

[opaque sun]

waiting for around tier 3-4 seems good, but tier 5+ is not practical

[dapper prism]

Anyone know what this is for/what it does?
https://i.imgur.com/9rYUBzh.png

It's in one of the gaming sheets

[opaque sun]

fertilizer as in the first gaming tab upgrades i suppose

[zinc torrent]

How the " no more pray" actually work? I try unequid every thing and nothing happens.

[opaque sun]

Upgrade 1 being bit, 2 being speed and 3 being plant space

[dapper prism]

Oh right, idk how i was that blind xD

[opaque sun]

no prayers? Remove all prayers and you get a weak sauce 1/5 effect of midas and dim wit and stuff

[zinc torrent]

From all char? Now that weak

[opaque sun]

on that char, but still its weak

Like if you wear a totally unrelated prayer, your efficiency should go down a little bit

Which also means you need to take off royal sampler, which means reset all samples

if you are only wearing midas prayer of 100% dr, you get 100% dr and enemy HP buff.

If you take off every single prayer, you now only getting 20% dr but no mob HP increase.

If you only wearing a dungeon flurbo prayer, you dont got any dr from midas, but you dont get any mob HP buff

[zinc torrent]

👍

[nimble yarrow]

what mob is best to farm with ES for statues?

[granite grove]

depends on statue type, need to ask more specific

but generally its for statue not found in crystal drops, like worship and accuracy statue iirc

[dapper prism]

Pins has a lot of info on that

[sharp wind]

For directional cogs is it better to get build rate% or xp?

[lavish grotto]

does the big bug in the sky affect the Chows and Zows of barbarians

[shrewd girder]

Xp is everything in cogs

[ocean fox]

How do you get obols to register in slab?

[sharp wind]

So for the boost cog player cons exp better right than build rate%?

[shrewd girder]

Yes

[dapper prism]

Reroll is one option, else i think equip and cloudsave?

[ocean fox]

Ah gotcha

[gentle furnace]

Just refresh the map with the obol in your inventory will do also

[prisma gate]

just unlocked eldritch artifacts and got tusk and money cat

what else should i be rushing first?

and does the unlocking order matter ie does the later you try to unlock one the lower the chance to unlock?

[noble mesa]

What is your %?

[prisma gate]

got tusk and money cat in one go, going for the sailing speed artifact rn

chances are around 0.25

0.25% per chest

[wind umbra]

pretty sure ur artifact chance only depends on the artifact u are going for and not how many artifacts u have

[prisma gate]

just not sure if theres a recommended order or priority

[wind umbra]

there is an artifact that increases artifact chance tho

[prisma gate]

yeah i figured that was prob the case, but wanted to double check

[noble mesa]

Im not sure , but i have like helf aldrike and i have 0.05%

[prisma gate]

yep i just got the eldritch one of that one

[prisma gate]

are you missing the eldritch versions of the later artifacts?

[wind umbra]

then the order doesnt really matter at this point

just go for wat u want

[noble mesa]

Yep

[prisma gate]

i assume the later artifacts all have a slightly lower base unlock chance but i could be talking out of my ass too

[wind umbra]

later artifacts have lower chance of getting them

[noble mesa]

Now going for the mask for more talent lvl

[prisma gate]

at least thats how it felt

[wind umbra]

doesnt change if you try and get them first or later

[prisma gate]

and i guess rhe higher % comes from earlier islands having multiple artifacts to unlock as well

[prisma gate]

makes a lot of sense yeah thank you

time to prayge for sailing speed artifact

[noble mesa]

Its just in w5 all u need is good luck

If u dont have u fckd

[prisma gate]

seems to be the theme for the w5 skills

[noble mesa]

All skills and all resapis

[storm kelp]

Never seen this one before, are they super rare?

[wheat kiln]

How to print aloot more resurse ? Becousei don knowwhat to improve.

[elfin cape]

Pretty rare, not that rare though

[storm kelp]

ok it's my first in 2 months since getting to world 5

[zealous niche]

#1084953188647583819 message

On top of improving alchemy bubbles and gear

[whole lintel]

What do I need to start farming big huge piles of statues? I have maestro, is it just max out crystals for days, c'mon out crystals, and then wait for hours?

[vagrant mountain]

check pins

[obsidian nacelle]

Soooo if I’m understanding this , anytime I buy an island, the next islands cost will immediately go up from the whatever the previous cost is?

Essentially, I couldn’t have an island cost 57 bottles and another one at 60 and buy both at one sitting for 117 bottles correct?

[maiden coral]

Correct. Any islands you didn't unlock will increase in price. (The bottle ones)

[opaque sun]

rip if you didnt pick up trash island first

[north juniper]

Sea salt is just a blessing

[foggy apex]

whats the thing that lets me use all the equippable bubbles at the same time?

[solid epoch]

its a pet companion

[storm kelp]

sheep?

[twilit goblet]

Sheep

[foggy apex]

ah k

[twilit goblet]

normal to have these drop in different ratio for you guys?

[solid epoch]

they have different rates

the book one took me quite a bit longer than the rest as well

[barren otter]

so close

[twilit goblet]

guess i am farming

my entire idleon career's worth of obol frags here now

[solid epoch]

once u feel like u have enough u could always just filter out obols

[twilit goblet]

i just check back and dispose since i can hourly click stuff now anyway

[crystal ginkgo]

My Sandy Pot statue farming is only really pushing through silver/gold obols. Filtered out the coppers

[primal bison]

first lad ever:D

on the come up frfr

yall aint ready for me

[errant sluice]

yo guys, when you have doot you should always have golden prints no? it switches from purple to golden sometimes for no apparent reason

[steady beacon]

has anyone come up with a guide for the shimmer trials yet, as in which class is best suited to each one?

E.g. Vman for accuracy, SB for crit chance, etc?

[vagrant mountain]

got the hard ones out of the way, just gotta count my candies now

[solid epoch]

nice! im about where ur at too, in a couple more hours that is

gotta finish these w4 ones

[vagrant mountain]

yeah w4 took me like a whole day

i literally havent closed my client since update XD

[solid epoch]

ill prob just go to bed and get em in the morning maybe

then also in the morning finish the rest of the statues with candy

[vagrant mountain]

yeah im trying to get power statues for the quest

so i can get some progress while i candy mobs

[solid epoch]

yeah ive only done the quest twice rn

on both DKs

[vagrant mountain]

my other DK has no talent levels XD

[solid epoch]

the rest of the characters i might just candy some lumber statues

[vagrant mountain]

yeah ores are ez statues

and ez to cap speed now

honestly oceanman statues arent too bad too from catching

[solid epoch]

i have a chopping efficiency shimmer trial ending in like 48 hours so i might just grab like 1 mill lumber statues and pump that onyx statue up once i get all 25

[vagrant mountain]

lol

that could be a play for sure

heh

it only counts # of digits though

[solid epoch]

then ill have to do a resample because big eff

yeah true

[vagrant mountain]

i got 13 digits for 11 points i think

about 1T

[solid epoch]

yeah if i get like 1 extra shimmer than i wouldve before id be fine

[vagrant mountain]

yeah worth

helps your samples anyways

[solid epoch]

im gonna have to resample all my loggers next

[vagrant mountain]

my loggers and my miners got like 30-50% more eff from statues haha

[solid epoch]

the old ones are kinda bad anyway

[vagrant mountain]

and quest book

[solid epoch]

oh yeah i need to do that as well dangit

i havent done many quests on any characters

[vagrant mountain]

all i really want to do is press Deposit All though

yeah i need to do quests

can get like 15 more slab from quests XD

[solid epoch]

i got 1.85M total statues from inv/storage rn, gonna be nice when i get to 25

ill prob do small deposit batches for a lil bit

[solid epoch]

same, i havent ever completed any of the world trophies yet so im missing tons of npc tokens and such

[vagrant mountain]

same i got none of em lol

my plan is minmax the kapow statues and then slam deposit all 🙂

[solid epoch]

im gonna try to minmax all for the most part, shouldnt take too long

[barren otter]

hey same

[solid epoch]

would be hard to level twice in a row when they start costing like 100k+ per level

[vagrant mountain]

twinning

[barren otter]

im halfway done with fisherman

and i never want to see that statue again

[vagrant mountain]

lol

im trying to get more base damage statues to get the 100k quest before i candy the rest of em

[barren otter]

yea not really looking forward to the 100k statues on my remaining chars

[vagrant mountain]

im probably just gonna get it on 3 chars for now and slowly work on em with everyone else

[steady beacon]

i'm confused - why are people turning the quests in on multiple characters? Is there an advantage to doing it multiple times?

[twilit goblet]

lmao why is nm kruk so tanky

so that divine trophy is really meant for pretty late game huh

[vagrant mountain]

statue reward

[lyric sequoia]

100k (well 80k after onyx) is more kachow statues than you could farm in like 10+ years with all the other sources of them

[ebon thunder]

Does the atom converter for the silver pen to box work even when I am offline? Like, it says it triggers once per day, but if I don't log it for 3 days, when I log in, will it trigger for the three days? Or does it only trigger when I log in?

[solid epoch]

id assume it works like nblb

u prob need to login

[ebon thunder]

Sad

[opaque sun]

as in if you log in from a 200 days hiatus, you still only get for 1 proc

[south vale]

question about chilled yarn artifact that gives 2x sigil bonus, how do bonuses scale with ancient and eldritch? does it go 2x - 4x - 6x or 2x - 3x - 4x?

[vagrant mountain]

eldritch is 4x

[south vale]

thanks

[serene kiln]

Does memorial skulls the kill per kill for es count towards afk gains?

[agile pagoda]

xD

[uncut bear]

What could it be that few days ago i got Like 100Q when i picked the plants from gaming and now i get Like 10Q only? Kat is sleeping all the time.

[sacred verge]

is it worth to do the quest for 10k exp and kapaawo statues beyond onyx?

[wheat kiln]

Why onyx statue drop down ? I make some bad mistake ? From 2000 damage from statue ( 4 x ) now i have onli 1000 damage feom statue ( 2 x )

[iron mesa]

Maybe you switched to character that doesn't have Power Statue increase talent

[wheat kiln]

Yes i switched but is strange becouse i have more damage statue on a character i dont make the quest and i dont farm whit it

Idleon is full of bug

[strong nova]

is pow possible to onyx

[wheat kiln]

Pow ?

[prisma drift]

Pow gets onyx when you do the quest

[iron mesa]

Statues account-wide

[wheat kiln]

If is accout wide why the .... drop down

.........

[iron mesa]

?

[wheat kiln]

Let me show you whit photo

[iron mesa]

Sure

[wheat kiln]

2 diferent caharacter

[iron mesa]

Open Talents and Third Tab

Make sure that this talent has same levels on both characters

[wheat kiln]

They are divine knight both

They dont have that skill

Idk the proablem but somthing is not right

[iron mesa]

Both barbarian and squire have that talent

Oh, they dont lol

Idk what Might is

[iron mesa]

No, they do have, Shieldiest Statues, check this talent

[zealous niche]

It sounds like one has the statue skill leveled like @iron mesa is saying

[wheat kiln]

Lol you right dude

Thank you for helping me

[sacred verge]

is both rift 40 and 41 5 mill afk kills?

or did i just witness a painfull bug

[feral hemlock]

So i have to farm these right? I want to do this on Vman might take some time...

[fast verge]

how many do ya all get? I keep getting stuck on +12 hours

[hollow wasp]

What do I focus here?

[opaque sun]

both

people usually just spend evenly

[verbal bough]

Hello i have a question about leveling your divinity. Last night i left my character in the altar but when i log in the next day it did not level up anything. Did i missed something?

[zinc shoal]

Why on vman? You lose kills once you use speedrun

[dapper prism]

Kapow statues

[opaque sun]

you dont have to get 100k in active combat

[feral hemlock]

Because i have to loot them manually. To get ezxp and kapow

[dapper prism]

and they can do it on skilling ones

[opaque sun]

Easier way is just dreadlo candy

[feral hemlock]

Oh ok

[dapper prism]

You recall your rate?

[opaque sun]

Like 2000 per hr or something

[dapper prism]

oh wow, ezpz

[opaque sun]

Its a good occasion to skill level mining

[dapper prism]

still need some cards, sadly not dreadlo, but the others

may as well just get them all 5*

[opaque sun]

Dreadlo has the highest rare drop chance, but its not like starfires and other ores are bad

[barren otter]

uh okay then

lmfao

[tulip void]

dk always better than bubo for statue farmin?

[pale tusk]

Which upgrades do you focus on shimmer island? total dmg and the star book?

[opaque sun]

DK best for things that crystals drops, while Es better for things that the normal mobs drops

Just happens to be crystals drops many statues, but there are some statues that crystals cant drop, so for those mobs ES better

[tulip void]

even with better respawn rate on bubo, it still doesn't compare to DK's drop rate active

[opaque sun]

bubo just kills alot of things

[tulip void]

hmm

[opaque sun]

Like say of dk can get 900 orb kills in a map, that averages to +4.5 more kills per kill

Its hard for bubo to get 5-6x more kills than DK

[tulip void]

true

[opaque sun]

But if there is a map (not like there is one) where DK sucks getting orbs, but bubo gets lot of kills, bubo better

[grand karma]

floms is the only map that comes to mind

[opaque sun]

One example would be like floms. A map that dk hates but bubo good at

[grand karma]

right sorry should have waited a bit lol

[opaque sun]

only reason to farm floms on bubo now is maybe for gold line, but there we have ES who is good regardless of map layout

[ancient quail]

Are there more bubbles than ie shows? I can still brew for 1% chance but dunno if it actually does anything?

[stuck pasture]

Yup

[zealous niche]

You can pre-unlock

[opaque sun]

It just pre unlocks future bubbles

[ancient quail]

Okay, so no actual bonuses yet

[zealous niche]

So, some people had all w5 bubbles at launch because they kept on rolling bubbles

[opaque sun]

Nothing really beneficial so should just move on to sigils

[zealous niche]

No actual benefit yeah

[ancient quail]

Or first max out the boosts?

Most are still at 110 ish and 150 is max right?

[opaque sun]

170 boost (cost) should be easy

[zealous niche]

Cost boost is the main thing that affects you now, speed and x2 will help with leveling boosts

[opaque sun]

170 is the cap

[ancient quail]

Great, thanks for the advice

[zealous niche]

Cap speed/x2 first

Those make it faster to cap the rest

[opaque sun]

Finish 170, then its all people to sigils

[ancient quail]

sweet, just got CC going since bubo got lvl 200+ tentecle and it's so fast now

[shrewd girder]

I only get one more chance to unlink after unlocking a new god right?

[opaque sun]

2 resets (including a family wide batch unlink) a week

Unlocking god also should count as a week

Like you can always sit on altar, click any god and click on “unlink” to see how many more unlinks

The first click on “unlink” just shows a menu and not a final confirmation

[shrewd girder]

I see. I should use up one more chance before unlocking a 100% one then, thx

[cloud tiger]

Anyone got a cheatsheet for which traps are good to set? I've unlocked blobfish and have set a line of traps for mousey/scorpion to cover Refinery. And a couple lines of traps for honker/bunny for crafts. Any others worth trapping for good stamps or alchemy bubbles i might not know about>?

[high flame]

!trapchart

[obtuse orbit]

Created by ..someone

[high flame]

Hmm, not as in-depth as the other charts

[cloud tiger]

Yeah true :S I guess I'll just update them as I go. I'm just sure im gonna miss something important and have to redo all traps hahaha

[sacred verge]

and we have a new slab

[cloud tiger]

Oh wow. That's huge. Gzgzgz

[sacred verge]

ty

[gilded salmon]

Is it better to Active ES at woodmush or Sticks for the bullseye statues?

[opaque sun]

Es ignores bad mob layout

And mush has higher base drop chance

[gilded salmon]

Thanks!

[opaque sun]

For afk, its acorns tho

[gilded salmon]

hmm its strange that my ES has almost 2x more DR than my DK. Am i forgetting something?

[opaque sun]

probably like obol or something

My DK tends to keep his construction obol over drop rate

Also possibility of taking off midas after a colo2 run or something, but you shouldnt be using midas on ES tho

[gilded salmon]

oh ur right.. its my midas haha

ok it looks correct now

[opaque sun]

The HP penalty of midas lowers your peak wormhole kills to a point it costs more than 118% dr

[gilded salmon]

yeah i forgot about that, u saved me so much time and effort! Thanks!

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/3d08c4d7c3eb64684f1ad0437e155a0e.png

this is still the cog meta right?

[safe harness]

is there any reason to save up for better DR for doot/biggie? saved 2 months of daily tries, but they dont appear to have things with high rarity...have 4x for reference so quite low...

[glad crow]

do you have the cards 5 starred?

[twilit goblet]

are those all bonus xp dorectional ?

[untold saffron]

ye

[unkempt quest]

Save it for when you have proper dr

Good source of candy

[twilit goblet]

ah I shud redo my grids..

[safe harness]

i dont yet

[glad crow]

then save ye

[safe harness]

ill save, still early w5, and might get some good use later on w5 catching up when world 6 is released...i assume w5 will be candiable then

thanks

[untold saffron]

yeah W5 will most likely be made candiable on W6 release

[true obsidian]

uhm...game doesn't have 100 godshard visual or i just lost 90 godshard? :<

[untold saffron]

it doesn't have a visual

[opaque sun]

It treats the highest 2 digits of money as godshard visually

If you say have 52300 godshards, game visually displays as 52 godshards and 30 dreadlo

You would still actually have 52300 godshards in that case, so nothing is lost

[latent dragon]

havent done dungeon in a while, what the current best char, i have max mana, hp e.t.c

[mild wadi]

i normally use ES for the abilities, but vman with normal non-dungeon gloves works well, especially with the new AOE ability

[opaque sun]

DK is easiest to run at any point of progress

[balmy harness]

Can I jump to my drop rate cards right before I kill a boss to get the drop benefit?

[narrow cloak]

if i have mantra chosen is it just flat 1 xp per character or is it boosted by purrmep and other stuff that boosts div xp?

[granite grove]

boosted by exp multi, tho exp given is based on the mantra user exp multi

[narrow cloak]

ok nice

[granite grove]

char with mantra would only get and give 12 exp/hr if multi is x12

regardless of how high or low other char's div exp multi are

also note that shared mantra exp cant be doubled by exp double claims

[narrow cloak]

so as i understand everyone will get the same xp/hr if i have one character using mantra?

[granite grove]

yes

[narrow cloak]

nice, thanks

[umbral tapir]

Is giant spawn chance account wide? Or per character?

[granite grove]

the former

[umbral tapir]

Kk, so I can just leave one character active everyday and still maximize giant spawns, instead of logging into each character. Easy peasy

[oak hemlock]

Guys, which the best area for farming statues in w2? Sands or snelbie?

[tough tusk]

sands for spawn rate (when i say spawn rate i mean the amount of mobs at max) and also glass shreds

[oak hemlock]

@tough tusk sand pots
or sand castles?

[tough tusk]

i use sand pots i dont remember why tho

[opaque sun]

sand pots gets similar statues as snelbies and sand castles while also providing glass shards

If you want the best possible statues, its actually tysons

[vagrant mountain]

nice

[warm beacon]

nice

[vagrant mountain]

lol

🫡

[sleek valve]

how to use maestro skill printer go brr on other characters ?

[glacial venture]

you use the skill to get hours of prints...of all chars

[sleek valve]

oh

[visual tangle]

where did you guys go for the 100k statues on your vman?

[glacial venture]

just checked o a char who didnt do the onyx quest

once npc is onyx who gives 20k statues doesnt matter

[iron mesa]

Mining dreadlo

[pure ember]

Really?

[glacial venture]

yes just did so

my sb didnt even start the quest

[pure ember]

Thought you meant the 20k power statues didn't matter

[visual tangle]

thanks, I'll give that a shot

crystal farming feels so slow with no respawn

[pure ember]

Knew about character not mattering since d1

[iron mesa]

I just candied it

[visual tangle]

I saw somebody say it took like 30hours if I remember correct, does that sound right?

[iron mesa]

Maybe, I didn't use Cards/DR or something and it took me 200 Hours with ~100 Statues/Hour

[visual tangle]

that's only 20k though

[iron mesa]

I don't remember

No, wait, that was 100 Fishman Statues per Hour

Just try out byself with Dreadlo

[pure ember]

Fml accidentally started a n. Kattle while using skilling preset

[fervent brook]

How should shimmer points be distributed?

[visual tangle]

to bad we don't get enough keys to leave and try again 😂

[iron mesa]

Skill Eff is fine

[solid epoch]

I'm doing something like 4-1 ratio of skill eff/dmg - stat points

[pure ember]

I still need the necklace

[solid epoch]

Not gonna attempt the shimmer talent book till the other stuff is super expensive

[pure ember]

Wait can you DK kattlekruk for better drops?

[solid epoch]

Ur orb won't do anything

The moles don't count

[visual tangle]

ok, I can deal with this

[pure ember]

Shame

[iron mesa]

Oh thats per 4 hours

Its fine

[solid epoch]

Yeah would be nice. Best class to use is still Vman but dmg might be a problem

[visual tangle]

yea, I'm not as far along as I should be w my skilling

but still faster than crystal farming

[solid epoch]

I mean as long as u get up to 100% chance to mine the ore ur good for the statues. A multiplier does nothing.

Helps to be able to equip a full DR setup while having 100% eff tho

Also capped tool speed of course

Skilled dimwit gonna come in clutch to reach enough efficiency on Vman to not need any Skilling cards

[tacit tulip]

not long now and w5 is done

[glacial venture]

after onyx we really need a new crit tier

[sonic radish]

so i was wondering if i filter items out of the drop pool does it increase the chance for others or do does it work the same the item just doesnt spawn if its hit

[glacial venture]

nope..they still drop but not on the floor

[sonic radish]

i figured ty

[opaque sun]

Only slightly helps pc performance

[glacial venture]

they still show up in afk window

[fair coral]

Ultra-mega crit?

[glacial venture]

super dupa mega hyper crit

[gaunt shale]

damage is alrdy getting crazy, do we really need more buffs

[glacial venture]

yes!!!^^

[opaque sun]

ES says yes

Other classes say “i dont care”

[gaunt shale]

[vocal ibex]

Getting gold twine 1 in 2 days

[sonic radish]

more damage is always needed

even if we dont think so the number is never high enough

[hidden sphinx]

Tf is your dr then?

[hidden sphinx]

Until you can get 100x mk tier on highest hp mob, with all maxed hp increasing prayers

[sonic radish]

untill hitting something deletes the game so iu dont feel obligated to play it anymore lmao

[frank sable]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[hidden sphinx]

Takes about 12 hours (I think) to farm 20k power statues, debating whether or not to finish dk statue farming in w5 now and come back to power farming after full kattlkruk gear or to just take the time to get the power statues for all chars for the quest line now

[hidden sphinx]

I’ve bought every pack in the game

Imma feel obligated to play for a while

[hidden sphinx]

Seems a bit low, you got full dr obols? With the max dr stats?

[vocal ibex]

No

I'll go check.

[sonic radish]

a bit low he says 😦

[tacit tulip]

definitely want those DR obols if you're gonna farm statues

[opaque sun]

might as well aim for 66.6x

[vocal ibex]

Am farming gold twine

Got 1 on 2 days

In 2 days

[opaque sun]

I just candy those if i need one for magma

[hidden sphinx]

Lack of pop obols are holding the dr back then

No point running construct obols besides on DK personal tab when you active dk

[hidden sphinx]

I just farmed all 30 needed in one go

[vocal ibex]

That's my dk active farming for drops

[hidden sphinx]

Only think I’m waiting on is some starfire bars and then es farming the last 80 cooking clogs

[opaque sun]

later on you make another set for skilling magma

[hidden sphinx]

If you’re farming for gold twine id say either do es cause fastest or bubo for alch progress

I used my bubo and it only took like a day

13.7x dr

[hidden sphinx]

What’s the difference? The main stat you’re upgrading?

[vocal ibex]

K let me get to work and switch it out . Thought dk was best since orb kills

[hidden sphinx]

Gold twine is a page 1 drop so ES is best

[vocal ibex]

K

[hidden sphinx]

DK is best for farming any items in the loot bags

[vocal ibex]

I'm still new that you

[hidden sphinx]

So statues (except w3 skilling statues), obols, gold food, normal food (except the w3 normal food)

[opaque sun]

One for divine, other to keep as magma for skilling

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/sTV1OxB.png

never able to get this one

[golden osprey]

does anyone know where this place is?

[prime lynx]

Does anyone know the fastest way to farm Instablab followers? Since I have no clue on how, even after 2+ years of playing this game I still haven’t even gather the amount needed for the 7 Figure Followers quest.

[junior arrow]

king doots hidden green mushroom