lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[heavy moth]

spam for 1 week quick slap 😛 went from 10 to 40T

[barren otter]

i could do that...

but my hard cap bubbles...

[solid epoch]

for a mob farming build that seems fine, getting better books for them will be good

especially these ones

[stiff kayak]

they cant get much beter

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/NhiN82m.png

[heavy moth]

yea choice is hard ahah

[solid epoch]

ah ok then for now u could just put in the lightning strike or somethin i guess lol

[barren otter]

gauranteed 1 quick slap click a day

[solid epoch]

or just save ur skill points, doesnt matter too much

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/Th3cWGX.png

[crystal tulip]

Is there a recommended food load out for damage and/or active farming? I still use a ton of gold foods that don't do a lot. (Kabobs, etc.)

[barren otter]

if omni is nice we can get 3-4 clicks

[solid epoch]

yeah im usually like 3-4 clicks a day maybe 5

its nice getting one per 2 printer go brr procs

[crystal tulip]

What site is this from?

[solid epoch]

really want to get that to 1000M for every 1 proc

[solid epoch]

idleon toolbox

[barren otter]

^

[solid epoch]

printer section at the top

[barren otter]

toolbox > IE for anything printer related

[queen zephyr]

Hello guys, What do y'all thing of this ?

[crystal tulip]

Thanks. Need to explore that one more. Too set in my ways on IE.😅

[fallen jacinth]

hmm if i don't have choco chip then should i farm statues with dk or bubo ?

[sacred verge]

will it matter alot of i skip out on superchowing rift?

[barren otter]

use both

[solid epoch]

looks aight

[rustic garnet]

My eyes hurt

[solid epoch]

yeah the colors are a bit bright lol

[green eagle]

deposited all of them on my DK so far

[zinc torrent]

Is base skill effeciency, any good?

[barren otter]

wooooo myriad

[rustic garnet]

If you can get your DR to 20x, you should get a huge boost, right?

[lost depot]

Does anyone else get screen flickering on your desktop while Idleon is open?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/UIic21L.png

one of the most important stamps in the game

[rustic garnet]

why would Wood be better than nutto or stick btw?

[solid epoch]

getting more base skill eff on everything is real good

[rustic garnet]

Ahh I know

[worthy steeple]

i dont have world 5 but is the world 3 kill ring and the bubble chat ring on the slab?

[rustic garnet]

the rare bag drop is 1/176, 1/153, and 1/143

[solid epoch]

yep every item is

u might be able to check ur progress with IE

idk if it lets u view the slab if ur not in w5 but maybe it does

[worthy steeple]

whats that?

[solid epoch]

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/

if u login to there and link ur account you can view important stuffs

it will help u to see what u should work on

once ur linked just click the account wide tab at the top, then click slab

itll show all the items u have currently found. idk if itll work before w5 but worth a shot

[tacit tulip]

zzzzz

[worthy steeple]

how do i add obels to the slab i cant drop them

[tacit tulip]

generally enter w5 map and check slab before upgrading them again

once they get added you can upgrade

think they need to be in your obol inv and not in the combine tab

[solid epoch]

itll be a lil wonky since u cant go to w5 and the slab isnt there yet for u i think

[tacit tulip]

hmm yeah, if not in w5 I wouldn't worry too much about obols for slab

[barren otter]

even if you dont go to the slab npc

itll update in an hourish

usually

[lost depot]

Any ideas why this artifact exists? Shinies are so easy to breed already

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/NENdf47.png

waitin on the book

[tacit tulip]

I need to stop being so lazy with my slab but effort

[lost depot]

Isn't working on slab kinda minimal gains tho?

[tacit tulip]

yeah but it adds up

[lost depot]

ye

[rustic garnet]

200 slab points isn't minimal

[tacit tulip]

stuff like this combined with the class specific bubbles add a lot of stats

[barren otter]

yea i was gonna say 200+ slab gain is not minimal

[rustic garnet]

that bottom set of slab pieces is SUPER TRIVIAL btw

do the dungeon on each char

you can get to 2nd to last weapon on all chars in basically 1 dungeon run

[tacit tulip]

yeah, only reason I've not done it this week is I'm on holiday, and all my fighting sets aren't set on my laptop

cba setting them up

[barren otter]

hey you can knock out W3 quest items for slab

when you do quest completion for new star talent on every char

[rustic garnet]

51 slab items on 3 runs

[barren otter]

[dapper prism]

Use pastel colors or something, not strong colors like those. Choose better colored text.
Also overall the sets seem very random and unncessary because nobody should even be touching crystals from w1-4ish anyways, due to the lack of proper crystal rate sources there's like no purpose. And main time comes once you have DK, in w4.
For AFK DN/MK you're missing all stat stuff

[rustic garnet]

you really don't have to 'set them up' though

Here's my slab atm

[barren otter]

W2 actually takes so long its kind of annoying

[solid epoch]

yeah

not quite as long as w5 at least

[buoyant mural]

how do i get better artifact chance from sailing?

[rustic garnet]

I don't think I can 'do' anything atm for my slab

[solid epoch]

maybe the book is tho lol

[rustic garnet]

hyper obol rolls

[dapper prism]

Another thought to put in is most people in w1-2+/- wouldnt even have 8 card slots, so it would have been better to make it as a priority list than a "use this full thing" as a nub won't know what is better, especially when the bonuses are different types

[rustic garnet]

level up fishing

buy card packs

[lost depot]

Buy more boats

[rustic garnet]

artifacts from sailing are all about fast sailing repeat harvest

[queen zephyr]

I'll work on that, thanks

[barren otter]

good thing W4 was fast

[solid epoch]

good to hear, thats my next active spot. might just candy w3

[dapper prism]

Be sure to get Tusk artifact on island 1, maybe even go for ancient version pretty early on. it increases arti chance based on sailing lvl

[solid epoch]

then i should be p much done

[barren otter]

this was 9 hrs

at 19x DR

[dapper prism]

Clammie?

[barren otter]

yea

and an added bonus of 10k ribs

[solid epoch]

ah dang i think i trolled

[barren otter]

9 or 10 hrs range

somewhere around there

[solid epoch]

just looked and i was set to a full DR build no crystals

idk how long that was going

[barren otter]

oh no...

[solid epoch]

im at 20.21x DR with crystal cards setup

[barren otter]

i dont even know how to get my DR higher

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/QW4oue3.png

ive been doin this

[little pagoda]

I'm so sad DR premium hat was in limited shop a month or so ago before I knew how important DR was, now I have to wait

Also I saw magma cape on banner for me once and also ignore it lol

[solid epoch]

everything is at lvl 6(6% DR) and about to be lvl 7

[barren otter]

hats kinda meh but cape is big

[little pagoda]

Didn't know there were DR shinies, good to know

[little pagoda]

I mean it's BIS anyway

[barren otter]

yea

[solid epoch]

u might also be able to increase ur DR through arcade

[barren otter]

but small compared to the combined total

[solid epoch]

thats prob about it

[little pagoda]

Cape is 30% right?

[barren otter]

[solid epoch]

oh nvm

im at lvl 88 on that

[barren otter]

yea idk how to hit 20x with crystal cards

other than small bonuses thatll take a while to get

[golden cipher]

how can you level up so much arcade bonuses? they are extremely expensive O_o

[barren otter]

i had a ton of golden balls saved up waiting for drop rate to go up

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/M7NYLUQ.png

[little pagoda]

Most of that equipment is from doubled divine right?

[barren otter]

yea

[golden cipher]

my highest arcade lvl is 50 I think and it took me too long

[barren otter]

wait what equipment do you have on that i dont

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/Hllqxd6.png

[barren otter]

dont tell me

oh...

:(

[solid epoch]

theres ur issue lol

[dapper prism]

is that new red thing better than blue?
https://i.imgur.com/VVbbRNv.png

[fallen jacinth]

4% all stat

[dapper prism]

Oh should move it then xD

[solid epoch]

yeah its better, less exp but more stats

[golden cipher]

@dapper prism I have 1question for you. In the pinned message about new statues guide, it says you mst use your second onyx tool in first world but nothing happends when I use it with my 2pj

[barren otter]

ah guess its mostly keychain + finished sigil

as like the big differences

[little pagoda]

Only need to do it once

[solid epoch]

yeah, some small ones like bubble, shiny, and cards

every lil bit adds up

[golden cipher]

but the message says it would stuck all pj if not dropped a 2ºtime 😕

[barren otter]

soon

[solid epoch]

u got more luck than me tho XD

[little pagoda]

uh let me read to see what you are refering to

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/7ciHLoJ.png

[golden cipher]

the warning part

[static zinc]

Good cards for farming crystals or

[solid epoch]

guess i could equip more nomwiches to boost that luck stat, only have 17k equipped out of like 500k+

[static zinc]

Well statues

[little pagoda]

Warning only says you need to use the onyx tools you get to be able to onyx more statues

[wispy bison]

for monolith is it unique as drops? or just 17 different cause its not showing just 17 statues from my bank

[glad crow]

you need them all

[wispy bison]

or at least the quest isnt registering them in my inventory when I withdrawn them from bank

[golden cipher]

If I missundertstood it, great

ty

[little pagoda]

Yeah if W1 statue is onyxed you're good

[glad crow]

[golden cipher]

Please, share some with poor people

[barren otter]

i like my golden food in a certain number

not some psychopath 915618

[little pagoda]

Man I really need to push my food carry cap

I've not bothered with it so far

[sacred verge]

guys how big difference makes superchowing rift?

[glad crow]

i just like double clicking on them

[little pagoda]

+1 superchow

[sacred verge]

...

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/uvzcti1.png

aight equipped

[little pagoda]

1.1x cooking speed

[solid epoch]

lil bit more luck

[glad crow]

can testify.... judge, he be speaking facts

[sacred verge]

as far as ive heard superchows matter more the more you get

[little pagoda]

Yeah it's multiplicative so every 1 has value

[tacit tulip]

they're multiplicative

every super chow is worth a 10% increase in cooking speed

[solid epoch]

went from 20.21x to 20.24 DR

huge gains

[barren otter]

surely this gets me a whole 100

[little pagoda]

People even superchow base of the bark nutto

[glad crow]

slowly getting these somewhere aswell

[little pagoda]

And dr defecaus poops

[sacred verge]

what i mean to ask is if its a huge loss to skip rift superchow?

[solid epoch]

max dat

[glad crow]

this one is really easy, so it should be done yes

[little pagoda]

I haven't bothered yet because no max food level artifact yet, mu luck has been horrible, 2 weeks no new arti

[barren otter]

i gained a whole 0.02x

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/PLiOFxd.png

[little pagoda]

Yeah at some point it is, not yet for me though

[solid epoch]

got the skilling+fighting build on

[tacit tulip]

It'll result in approximately 9% more ladles per meal you want to level up - up to you if that's worth it

[barren otter]

wait dude you fucked up

[glad crow]

why low skill levels?

[little pagoda]

There's only 1 artifact for max food level right?

I'm already hitting my current max level

[barren otter]

you didnt vman luck to a higher lvl

[sacred verge]

hmm sure sounds worth it, lol

[solid epoch]

havent booked yet

[solid epoch]

true

lazy

[barren otter]

same cba

[glad crow]

this is my bubos

[barren otter]

this is good enough

[worthy steeple]

is there a way to get teir one dungeon weapons for the slab once you have upgraded starting weapon

[solid epoch]

maybe ill do it when i go back and get a 65 portal kill vman run or something

[tacit tulip]

apparently picking up any weapon will give you the earlier ones

[little pagoda]

Yeah it counts previous tiers when you get one

[worthy steeple]

and when i get world 5 my obols in my inv count?

[little pagoda]

Not sure when obols is counted but they do count for slab

[wispy bison]

For monolith, is the unique statues is that 17 dropped or can I just take them from my bank?

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/aAxJT9o.png

gotta get enough points to max all of these

[misty spindle]

Do all plants have the same chance to evolve? And do the chances get lower as their level rises?

[little pagoda]

can take from bank

[little pagoda]

gets harder yes

[tacit tulip]

Yes and yes

[misty spindle]

How harder?

[little pagoda]

I don't know the math but it's pretty much exponentially less likely

[misty spindle]

that means a lot less likely right?

[little pagoda]

Yes

[misty spindle]

so it goes from 16% to like what 2?

[little pagoda]

t5 takes many days, t6 months, from what I heard

[misty spindle]

wow

[sacred verge]

t5 is not that bad

i get t5s fairly often. its not super rare

[rustic garnet]

the second to last max tier takes months

[little pagoda]

Yeah it's many days of gaming progress so it can take minutes with all the bonuses for gaming progress

[rustic garnet]

the last tier takes maybe a year

[misty spindle]

is it worth it? How much more am I getting in t6? like is the difference between 3 and 4 same as 4 and 5?

[rustic garnet]

with the second to last levels maxed on all of mine, I'm getting 74x I think

[little pagoda]

real time or gaming time

[solid epoch]

yeah if i can get those 8 skills up to 245, the left dmg one maxed, and the top right skill to 125 ill be set for life

[rustic garnet]

gaming time

there are apparenlty 18 more levels

[little pagoda]

wtf

[rustic garnet]

but I only can count 9 left to go

[potent maple]

whats the best way to farm power statues? I tried my bubo overnight and it froze up my screen 😄

[barren otter]

yea i need a day to finish fully booking vman its nice

[rustic garnet]

ktnbtn, PINS 😉

[gentle anchor]

any tips for diamond chef bc wtf are those recources

[sacred verge]

im impressed even by t6

[rustic garnet]

The suggestion is there is t8

in the 'log book'

but I can only see t7

[solid epoch]

best tip is to try and get NBLB to proc on it as much as possible

[little pagoda]

does the alchemy bubble scale multiplicatively with every 1 new plant discovered? I assume yes rigght?

[rustic garnet]

the bubble?

[gentle anchor]

what is NBLB

[solid epoch]

no bubble left behind

[rustic garnet]

which alch bubble?

[gentle anchor]

it stands for smth but i dont think u mean what i think

[rustic garnet]

no bubble left behind

[gentle anchor]

ye its smth diff

[solid epoch]

its what upgrades ur bubbles each day on daily reset

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

[rustic garnet]

as in, the failed elementray school regime by GW Bush

[gentle anchor]

i know

[little pagoda]

Is it just additive?

[rustic garnet]

prolly

54*22.7%

[little pagoda]

Then not that crazy

[gentle anchor]

yes

i acctually dont know i just say smthg

[potent maple]

that's kind of useless behaviour lol

[solid epoch]

so if u go to IE and look at your alchemy, it will show a little up arrow next to the bubbles that are probably going to level up that day

[barren otter]

bit by bit is still worth while to level

[sacred verge]

i was thinking the same..lol

[solid epoch]

u can then go and upgrade those bubbles so it picks a different one

ideally diamond chef gets upgraded each day this way

[gentle anchor]

i see no chef

[potent maple]

to be fair, so is my pointing out useless shit on the internet 😄 🤦

[sacred verge]

2nd char good to gooo

[solid epoch]

if you have other useless bubbles under lvl 5 thats good too because it wont proc on bubbles lower than lvl 5

[solid epoch]

scroll down on the right side

[spring jasper]

is the stone in gaming worth it?

[gentle anchor]

i see it but i mean no arrow

[solid epoch]

is the arrow on other skills?

what lvl is diamond chef btw? if its below lvl 5 NBLB wont proc so u wont get an arrow

[potent maple]

depends on what you're going for and how frequently you're checking in on gaming that day

[spring jasper]

dunno like 8 times?

[misty spindle]

its not the first 15 it wont proc regardless

[solid epoch]

ah dang forgot about that

[gentle anchor]

ow ye its 1

but its so hard to lvl

ill use the discount thing

but its still gonne be hard

[little pagoda]

You can level it up normally at least to 30 or so

[potent maple]

you know there's a chance though right?

[wise cypress]

best place to farm statue on each world ?

[potent maple]

pins 😄

[solid epoch]

gotta have it unlocked tho i think right

what was it again?

[misty spindle]

I dont know waht youre talking about

[tacit tulip]

there's a buff that makes NBLB work on bubbles 16-25

[solid epoch]

theres a bonus u get later that makes it affect all bubbles

i forget where tho

[tacit tulip]

atom collider

[solid epoch]

oh yea

[misty spindle]

Im not that far in the game

[little pagoda]

You don't have atomic NBLB yet, you need to progress in breeding until docks to get the spices and level up diamond chef

When you start getting them you make use of bargain tag to upgrade diamond chef as you can

[misty spindle]

youre talking to the wrong guy, I just said NBLB doesnt work on diamond chef

I know how to level it

[hardy quarry]

By like 70, it costs millions of spice per level so you're stuck with nblb until you can atom it.

[little pagoda]

Ah ok, idk who was asking lol

[hardy quarry]

Luckily by that point nblb is absolutely bananas out of control. Lol

[little pagoda]

The thing I really want is the jewel to make it +2, but rotation is not being helpful lol

[misty spindle]

when is it coming?

[hardy quarry]

Yeah, and LARRY can make it +3

[little pagoda]

No idea, gotta check

[little pagoda]

Larry works for that? Nice

[sacred verge]

what do i do with 2nd onyx chisel? throw it away?

[hardy quarry]

Something does. Pretty sure it's Larry.

[little pagoda]

I've stopped worrying about alchemy for now and will go back hard when I get respectable prints, statues are definitely going to help

[potent maple]

just remember non-respectable prints are better than NO prints (I also call this, "Do what I say, not what I do")

[little pagoda]

I have prints they're just starting to slow down compared to bubble costs

[exotic juniper]

am i doing something wrong? power status so much slower

[little pagoda]

It's normal

[misty spindle]

december 13. not too bad

[little pagoda]

One thing I find funny is how I got level 15 bubble that costs orange juice with literally 0 orange juice

[potent maple]

i only just got the update a bit ago, are those 7 statues the only ones to farm or does it go higher?

[little pagoda]

I'll probably get it with gems before that point, I do plan on getting all jewels when I can afford

[gentle anchor]

why not working this

[misty spindle]

Can I get two of the same jewels? what happens?

[little pagoda]

It's active skill

[gentle anchor]

i used it

[little pagoda]

It doesn't give duplicates

[hardy quarry]

And you have to use it before you enter the arena, it won't reset the cd

[gentle anchor]

bruh

[little pagoda]

So after you get enough jewels you can just go to gem shop and buy the last few

[gentle anchor]

why doesnt it say that

[hardy quarry]

Because Idleon is a fountain of jank and trolling.

[misty spindle]

Im asking when the rotations comes to the one I have, can I buy it still? Does it do anything?

[little pagoda]

Can't buy then

It says sold out

[potent maple]

all skills with this in the upper left corner need to go on your attack bar and be used to "work"

vs round corners

[gentle anchor]

ye i know

[sacred verge]

why does my main DK have 2 points higher DR than my 2nd DK? any tips (its not midas)

same gear

[gentle anchor]

but it doesnt reset my arena CD

[potent maple]

no it doesnt, you use it FIRST

[sick sentinel]

.02 or 2 drop rate

[solid epoch]

well he knows now lol

[gentle anchor]

i know i didnt do thaqt

[sacred verge]

2, chips and cards are the same aswell

[solid epoch]

it just didnt say that beforehand

[potent maple]

next time!

i think that happened to a lot of people the first time, don't worry its not just you

[sick sentinel]

same premium gear too? cardset?

[sacred verge]

yup

[potent maple]

lab chips? obols?

[sacred verge]

chips are the same

[sick sentinel]

obols

[sacred verge]

obols

fack

tyy

lol

how could i forget

[sick sentinel]

yee i do the same thing lol

obol set swap when

[sacred verge]

thanks

[potent maple]

too much stuff to remember in this game!

[sacred verge]

its is for sure

[gentle anchor]

the random island is that one u have unlocked?

[sick sentinel]

i think so but that is hella bait

[hexed crescent]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[hexed crescent]

Anyone got the old guide?

[viral star]

any chance i could get this to 8 digits in 100 hours?

[dapper prism]

depends if uve already setup everythying like chips, cards, card chance etc. but probably not

[viral star]

oh

[dapper prism]

and how underleveld ur bubbles are

[viral star]

i forgor to set up but probably i'd at max get to abt 5m

[dapper prism]

or if uve ignored a cooking meal with effy, idk, a lot works hand in hand

[viral star]

could you look at IE?

[dapper prism]

Search my name, then guide, should find a lot of things when u need it
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[viral star]

https://shabowy.idleonefficiency.com bubbles are definetly underlevelled

[tiny robin]

How can I get the new star talent books

[dapper prism]

srry just made my food and taking it a bit 2 chill to check IE's properly, a random note.. dont let NBLB hit those easy bubbles that they are atm

[dapper prism]

New w4 quests at worms and floms

[hexed crescent]

Thanks, that's the one. Why why it removed from "!guide"?

[misty spindle]

collect yo keys fool

[viral star]

okay

[dapper prism]

Petty owner who removed it after disagreeing with the Companion update (Doot, which i agree is op) but still unnecessary to remove a guide.

[hexed crescent]

LMAO

[dapper prism]

You can read the reason and stuff on the old guide btw

[hexed crescent]

Lava removed it because of the companion calc sheet?

[dapper prism]

Old non working guide with reason:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[potent maple]

creator of the guide took his toys when he left, but you can still find a workable guide, it is the internet after all, nothing ever goes away 😄

[dapper prism]

My issue is, afaik it wasn't even just "theirs" there was dozens of contributers, unless they all agreed to remove stuff then idk

[hardy quarry]

The pet exodus was REAL.

[potent maple]

shrug i do have many varying opinions about it myself but in the end, it is what it is

[sacred verge]

i understand the reasoning very good and i do agree with the desicion. But i does suck when you need it

[viral star]

okay ill work on my bubbles more..

[pearl cedar]

Most of them also gone

[jagged gate]

does anyone know how much extra bits each evolution of a plant gives in gaming? wiki doesnt say

[dapper prism]

Idk, i feel like you arnt really hurting the game or dev, just the players.
You made something to help people, why "destroy" it to hurt people after that?
I still have public spreadsheets from years ago for some games, wouldn't remove it though to hurt people

[sacred verge]

the was one good thing that came for this great purge. alot of rude "pro's" were banned from discord.

[dapper prism]

And everything blamed on doot, no matter what

[misty spindle]

This is what happens when people have nothing but realisticly worthless acomplisments like spreadsheets on random indie game, they feel like deleting it will make a bigger impact then not

[sacred verge]

the thing is that ppl were muted, banned etc and views/opinions were censored basically. the only thing left was to do stuff like that

[hexed crescent]

Hurting the players is hurting the dev. Might be a dick move but it does make sense

[pearl cedar]

Well realistically, they were probably banned from the server. The server was still using their work, and personally I wouldn't want my work being used by a community I'm not allowed in anymore

[lavish cloak]

13dr and 3.9 mil kph on sb at penguins, 23 statues per hour candy. what am i missing?

[sacred verge]

its not that people are not eager to help out. its more that it was the only way to make an impact to the game

[gentle anchor]

any tips for rift i need orb kills on DK

[dapper prism]

kph is irrelevant, mk does nothing for drops

[gentle anchor]

im like 2O short

[dapper prism]

play manual, WASD and R to auto attack nearby. Have shockwave and stuff

[little pagoda]

wasd works? I use arrow keys lmao

[warped grail]

14000 statues of power , only 6k more

i hope tomorrow i get onyx

[dapper prism]

True, and i get removing something if you are wrongfully banned, but the spreadhseet owner was still in here until around 1-2 weeks ago

[jagged gate]

theres a youtube guide on it, but basically equip all speed potions

[misty spindle]

after 400 hours this is the first time I hear about WASD in this game

[gentle anchor]

i got 217 speed

[jagged gate]

if you got 4 speed potions in all slots, then also use the talent that shoots a wave on your basic attacks to clear the platform

[hexed crescent]

"It’s understood the Pet Companions feature will not change to accommodate the grievances of the community. The guidesheet team has used their free time and appreciation of the game to help create these guides in support of Lava. Simply, we no longer support him."

[sacred verge]

im not saying it was 100% the correct move. but i do undertand why they felt they had to do it

[pearl cedar]

But a lot of the people that helped create the spreadsheet were not

Tony for one

[potent maple]

012..............

[dapper prism]

Lots of keybinds.
WASD to move
R to auto attack
T for talents
C for codex
Q to toggle attack bar on/off*
1-6 use abilities
7 rotate ability page

Wish you could open player page

[sacred verge]

ppl were basically backed up against a wall with nothing to do. this was the only way to make an impact, and it for sure hurt the game

[little pagoda]

It accomplished nothing, people still had copies, all it did was make it harder for new players

[barren otter]

Q to toggle attack bar

[pearl cedar]

What did it cost? Noobs in endgame

[sacred verge]

exactly, as intenden. this means it hurts the game

[misty spindle]

its good to have but doubt many people are using them

[little pagoda]

Eh not really, it's an invenience, it didn't make people not play the game

[lavish cloak]

38 per hour on 19dr dk. what else?

[sacred verge]

we have different opinions then. but thats alright

[misty spindle]

people who know about the spreadsheet probably know about this server and everyone in who can help them anyway

[dapper prism]

Hey, "idk what is wrong, im in w5 and i only have 300k dmg, i swiped monies to get candy to push through w4. Please check my IE"
Open IE: bubbles at level 1-10, stamps missing like 80% of them, all lvl 20-30ish if even. Cooking, never done. Breeding, never touched. Worship, level 1 on everyone and lvl lvl 90 on ES.

[pearl cedar]

You should be using es not dk

[lavish cloak]

for active sure, i'm trying to candy it away, but i was told to look for 60 per hour

[pearl cedar]

Ahh for candy

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/HRnAFwG.png

[little pagoda]

Lol it happens but those players are still important

[dapper prism]

W3 you shouldnt be using dk active either

[pearl cedar]

Whats your chip setup?

[dapper prism]

Yes you are, sorry Orlando 😉

[hardy quarry]

We were all that player at one point or another, much as we shy from admitting it.

[lavish cloak]

the 4 silkroads, card doublers, and the chocochip

[little pagoda]

lmao, if I was that kind of noob I would know, sadly I'm taking the game more seriously than they are

[dapper prism]

Difference of being that player in W3-4 still vs w5. by W5 there are a few things you should definetely know

[little pagoda]

Which is bad because it consumes a lil bit of my life

[pearl cedar]

For chip setup, you most likely want card doubler, afk doubler, keychain doubler, pendant doubler amd rest respawn

[dapper prism]

Show ur card setup too

Depending, should be like this:
https://i.imgur.com/xmj3Usq.png

[lavish cloak]

went for full item drop

[dapper prism]

Poor amarok.. ima go do him now 😦

[signal osprey]

Definitely double Amarok

[dapper prism]

12% afk gain is way better than the DR

[signal osprey]

Not even sure if doubling any drop rate card is worth it for this. Might be better to use one card doubler and an extra respawn chip

[lavish cloak]

so what i'm gathering is that 38 statues is pretty normal for candies per hour since all that matters is DR, and to truly maximize my farming i should be activing es

[signal osprey]

Should probably test it though

[jagged gate]

DR increases have diminishing returns, AFK gain is multiplicative

[little pagoda]

Afk farming rare drops is ass

[dapper prism]

Give me 2mins 😄

[pale basin]

Kinda me

[little pagoda]

Using 300+ hrs of candies for one onyx statue is whale stuff for surew

[signal osprey]

Unfortunately it will vary from person to person so your test might not work for everyone

[pearl cedar]

You want max afk, respawn, and DR for afk statues, DR is probably the least priority of the 3 though

[dapper prism]

Yeh, same as how ES > Vman for me when i candy w3 statues (or w1 tree)

[signal osprey]

But I do think for most people the respawn would be better than a second card doubler

[pearl cedar]

I'll try in a few as well, about to be finished with div trophies

[signal osprey]

Not looking forward to doing those

[dapper prism]

2h candy (with both card doublers)
102 Box, 42 Ex

With 1 card doubler + 1 respawn.
102 Box, 42 Ex

Same outcome in my case (with owning mob respawn keychains)

But especialyl if you don't own mob keys, then i can definetely see mob as better

ffs keep getting distracted, 5* amarok for afk gain, let's goooo

Did like 8 Eclipses yesterday without it

For Bosses, do you snapshot the Card chance when entering then camp DR, would Refresh keep card chance? @signal osprey

[pearl cedar]

God these are slow

[lavish cloak]

i'm halfway there. you got this

[signal osprey]

I think you need to resnap on a refresh

But honestly not sure. I don't bother snapping cdr

[pearl cedar]

Too much of a pain switching presets

[willow drum]

it's pain

[dapper prism]

Mhm, either way i only get 9 cards per kill, while camping DR or camping Card chance.
I would never snapshot it if it was every round, was just curious if the boss refresh would keep the cdr persistant

[signal osprey]

The Amarok cards aren't even too bad to 5*

[prisma drift]

So expensive
What level do I get this to?

[signal osprey]

It was like 100 runs or so for normal and chaotic

[dapper prism]

Yup, pretty much, just didnt have keys

Now im back on 400+ keys so ezpz

[tidal sky]

240 for 80%

[signal osprey]

Depends on div level. The higher your div the less big p you need

[prisma drift]

It doesn’t go above 100%?

[tidal sky]

i mean, 80% before shit returns

[prisma drift]

I meant total including div level

[dapper prism]

based on bubble effy guide in #1084911530417606656

[prisma drift]

Like % total of gods bonus you can get

[signal osprey]

You can technically go past 100% of the gods effect yes

The way lava coded it is more of a soft cap than a hard cap

[prisma drift]

I need to make myself a copy of the bubble % sheet

[dapper prism]

Amarok loot is not getting everything on autoloot, is it because items take too long to spawn or just too many items? (i have the space)

[signal osprey]

But for 100% god bonus you'll need at least 90% big p unless you plan to get some ungodly div levels

[prisma drift]

I was just curious because you said it depended on div level how hard I should push big P

So I wasn’t sure if it capped and pushing higher would be a waste

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure to get 100% you need around 120 div level and 540 big p

More div level means less bubble needed and vice versa

[prisma drift]

That’s a lot of atoms

I can only squeeze like 100k a day

With vman hitting a few procs

[signal osprey]

Then do some of your clicks into big p and the rest into something cheaper

As long as you're at least using all of them each day

[prisma drift]

That’s what I started doing yesterday

Vman printed me 150K atoms this morning

Was happy to dump all those

[signal osprey]

Personally if big p is expensive id put it off until later

[prisma drift]

I could probably afford it if I stopped hourly clicking

[signal osprey]

Its biggest benefit is to samples and other sampling bubbles are just cheaper

Stopping clicks for atoms is never worth it

[lyric sequoia]

Range from my experience. Anything that jumps off screen is not picked up by autoloot

[dapper prism]

Mhm it's on screen though :/

[pearl cedar]

Could be that autoloot is trigger while items are still dropping

[dapper prism]

yeh that must be it then

[lyric sequoia]

Could also be number, but I found that moving my character over right slightly after killing amarok allows it all to be picked up (essentially moving to where the centre of his feet are so you can see the entire platform)

[dapper prism]

(Yes im on ES and not on Vman >.>)

Must be because of how long drops take

[pearl cedar]

Does autoloot pick the rest up or you had to click?

[green eagle]

ayyyy

[dapper prism]

i had to click it at the end

[green eagle]

now to do it some more so i can get easier kachow lvls

[signal osprey]

The way autoloot works is you pick things up if you walk over them or after a set period of time on the ground (I think 5 seconds). Maybe that timer is actually starting from the moment the boss dies and then some of the loot doesn't even spawn until after the timer

[fathom lagoon]

Does anyone know the command for the shiny pet chart

[dapper prism]

SHINY PET effect List/Chart, Breeding
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099088196027027606/1099088196291264623/ShinyPetEffect.png

[signal osprey]

I know its a consistent problem on Amarok and can occasionally happen on chizoar as well although not guaranteed

[fathom lagoon]

You da best trickz

[valid ledge]

bubo CC better at wurms or citrange?

[dapper prism]

Havnt done chiz for a while, dont recall it happening there

Wurms, more mobs

unless your stats are still meh, can be situational

[signal osprey]

Its a lot less common on chizoar because he drops less than Amarok overall

You basically have to high roll and drop everything he can drop in a single run

[dapper prism]

True

[fathom lagoon]

Question, do shiny pets stack? Like can I keep multiple shiny squirrels for + infinite star signs?

[dapper prism]

And then you get the same drop multiple stacks

[green eagle]

if you're still asking that and you try at wurms, be sure to turn MK prayer off so you don't get 1 shot by crystals

[signal osprey]

My fence yard is 27 of the same pet

[lapis mesa]

i should go redo TD.. man i really dont want to though

[fathom lagoon]

Same goes for like shiny gmush + % faster level up, it stacks?

Oh shit nice

[dapper prism]

So you start of with gmush and stuff, anything for faster shiny, and get them to lvl 5 first

toolbox displays time to lvl 5 very nicely

[valid ledge]

lol ||good advice, il take it||

[fathom lagoon]

Ngl havjng doot is making progressing a breeze

Can’t imagine having 6 chars locked in lab fr

[golden cipher]

talking about pets, is it possible to complete this achievement?

[dapper prism]

Thing is, the 6 chars wouldnt really be locked in lab once done, but just locked to bear. missing out on omni/bunny etc

[signal osprey]

If I had doot I would still have 6 in lab tbh

[golden cipher]

ty 🙂 I was wasting my time and shinny time ^^

[bright current]

W3 statues are such a pain to get onyx damn it

[dapper prism]

Do it while eclipsing

[bright current]

im not sure my gang can eclipse W3 very effectively but may as well

fuck it

[sacred verge]

is it worth it eclipsing active?

[signal osprey]

No

With maybe a few exceptions for maps that are generically good active farms

[bright current]

if you plan to do max vials active without using Vman speed run samples, u can make a dent while doin that

otherwise not really

[dapper prism]

Do this, easy 5* cards too xD
https://i.imgur.com/HQhmHxb.png

[signal osprey]

Like 1b wurms on bubo or 1b beans on DK

You could active eclipse those

Most maps you should just candy

Your active time is more valuable than your candy

[dapper prism]

Also, don't just go for 1b. be sure to balance them all out. All to 5m, then 100m, then go for 1b on hgihest kph map to lowest kph maps

[signal osprey]

Don't ever compromise on active farming

[dapper prism]

All that extra DN along the way helps a bunch

[sacred verge]

doing eclipse honestly feels like such a pain

[bright current]

5% per map tho, worth it

[dapper prism]

along with 10% mk/tier

[sacred verge]

yeah its not that its not worth it, just takes soo much time

[signal osprey]

If its troublesome to do then just do it later

The only important world is W1 for gmush multikill

Other worlds the multikill is whatever so its just more damage

[sacred verge]

what kph is a respectable amount for it to be worth it?

[bright current]

honest question, do these MF's exist as eldritch, god damn ive been here for months (I know they exist)

[signal osprey]

But you can scale damage other ways too

[signal osprey]

Entirely up to you. Most endgamers probably had around 3-5m on most maps. I started around 2-3m

[dapper prism]

This is what i did W1 at, now working on W3 (cause of statues, later W2) Updated numbers on the back was after having some eclipses done
https://i.imgur.com/n2wK40e.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZxaRUwy.png

[signal osprey]

Just depends on how much candy you're willing to use

[barren otter]

woo W4 done

[sacred verge]

varies from 3-6 mill for me

some maps are down to 2 something

[dapper prism]

W3+2 im doing on ES

Main thing.. remember your damn anvil -,-

the amount of times i forgot yesterday was too damn high

[sacred verge]

also when is a good place to take a gmush brake? im at about 2.5 bill atm

i know its best to keep going ofc but i want to use SB for eclipse

[pure ember]

Got coin before Socrates

[signal osprey]

I used like 10 24 hour candies a couple days ago before I realized i had unending energy on lol

[pure ember]

True..... a way to get 1b thread

[dapper prism]

i stoped using unending, except usually on vman

[signal osprey]

It was on vman

I just unlocked seasalt and was leveling fishing

[dapper prism]

True xD

[dapper meadow]

Isn’t there an automation for depositing anvil?

[green eagle]

where did you drop your dk? clammies?

[dapper prism]

It's once a day

[barren otter]

yup

took about 11 hrs to finish all 3

[green eagle]

yes, but it's once per day on one character lol

or is that forge?

[dapper meadow]

Ohhh. I didn’t know that. Yikes

[dapper prism]

Forge caps on ore supply

So you cant go afk 100h and excpect more bars than if you were afk for 1h with the archer forge progress talent

How many days do bottles and trash stack without claiming?

[little pagoda]

one character?

[dapper prism]

once per day per alt afaik

[little pagoda]

I'm no mathematician but that's 10 characters

[dry crypt]

maybe a stupid question but is magma armor worth it?

[lost topaz]

Yes, and kruk armor is pretty much free after that

[dapper prism]

Pretty much best armor, and kattle stuff is situational

[dry crypt]

ok thx

[rustic garnet]

That's farming from 20:00... So basically 3 hours of active ES farm :/

that's really trash

[muted bramble]

not DK ?

[rustic garnet]

100% not DK, you don't DK farm accuracy

[dapper prism]

Not for w1 tree

[dapper prism]

This was mine, 1 hour flat:
https://i.imgur.com/GPo4EMu.png

[rustic garnet]

yeah I don't know the big difference trickz

[dapper prism]

963 bulls in an hour

[rustic garnet]

I feel like I'm doing all the 'right' things

how many stacks of wormhole do you get up to?

[dapper prism]

Not sure, i can check in about 10 more amaroks

[barren otter]

oh hey im doing that right now

[barren otter]

im capping out at 235 wormhole stacks

roughly avging 940 bullseye an hour

[sacred verge]

is thins wood mush farming?

or sticks

[dapper prism]

Wood for active

[little pagoda]

Casual 150 hours to get 20k lol

[sacred verge]

lol

[dapper prism]

How? it would be 20h-23h?

[sacred verge]

well its great for my DN wood mush i guess 😛

[little pagoda]

I can't math

Actually

[barren otter]

1kish statues/hour is really good

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/maths-gif-24525141

[little pagoda]

144 per hour? That's 138 hours

[dapper prism]

No, its 1107 -144 => whatever = my hourly rate

[little pagoda]

Ahhh

[dapper prism]

i had 144 in my inventory when i started

[little pagoda]

Ok 20 hours sounds a lot better

[dapper prism]

didnt realize no bank space when i depo'd until right when i started xD

[little pagoda]

idk if I'm gonna do all statue now though, I have other priorites after the easy statues

[dapper prism]

Yay 5* 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/JdWrKJp.png

[dapper prism]

Thing is, im not gonna deposite any statues until i got all onyx

[little pagoda]

I think I will deposit some otherwise I'll be sitting on the statues for weeks

[livid raft]

Hmm so I guess auto-loot off now and check every 5mins lol

[little pagoda]

And I only have 2 days worth of statues anyway

[dapper prism]

why auto loot off?

[livid raft]

says manually loot

[tidal sky]

i'm around the average u guys are getting at new fishing island with vman?

[little pagoda]

Auto loot works

[sacred verge]

i will deposit tomorrow and just dont mind accuracy and w3 statues

[dapper prism]

Wording is instead of like the 20k power that you can grind on dk and give to an alt, these have to be done personally.

[dapper prism]

Vman, like 4-5x that amount?

[livid raft]

Ahh okay. Gotcha

[tidal sky]

damn, but you're at endgame?

[dapper prism]

Forgot who these screenshots were on:
https://i.imgur.com/cobF1mR.png
https://i.imgur.com/zXtda5P.png

[livid raft]

Do I have to make statues onyx on each toon or just once?

[dapper prism]

Once, see all info on pin

[tidal sky]

damn, this is def endgamer 16B eff with vman with transfusion? not going to happen soon

[dapper prism]

As said, not 100% sure who these pics were on

[little harbor]

I'm late world 5. What should my lab and divinity setup be? I feel like I am way off.

[dapper prism]

Looks like 242 wormhole
https://i.imgur.com/6visIt8.png

[dapper prism]

kinda depends... tons of situational stuff like if you're going for chow on bb, or trying to push, what your gods are. etc etc

[livid raft]

So looking at the pin I essentially have to get the 20K power ones on all toons for them to take advantage of the onyx?

but I can farm them on DK and pass them over

[little harbor]

Thats my question i guess. not sure what to do. pushed to worms on a ES and Bubo. everyone else made it t oranges or so but are just parked in Lab with Goat.

[lapis mesa]

!

[rustic garnet]

Does multikill impact drops for statues?

[little pagoda]

No, onyx is account wide even on who hasn't completed the quest

Completing the quest on more characters is done to get more kachow statues

[dapper prism]

one of the first points literally says "The quest is NOT account wide. But unlocked onyx statue benefits are."

[livid raft]

Ah its to make it easier/able to get the 20K kachow ones I guess huh

[little pagoda]

Kachow is better used to onyx and then save the other 80k you can get and only deposit when you onyx the others

I really hope w6 adds a way to farm them though

[livid raft]

So those 100K statues looted get "taken"?

[scarlet bay]

my god, finally

[gleaming coral]

max talent books are still 245 or was something added?

[twin token]

Still 245

[misty spindle]

Dude I just unlocked berry bush with .4 chance

insane

[nimble yarrow]

which is the best class to go for the lava skulls in the rit?

[dapper prism]

ES and SB.
Bubo and DK can be risky as they might clear full map on auto

[nimble yarrow]

ty

[misty spindle]

should I get MSA totalizer from gaming? not sure what it is

[high owl]

autoloot counts

[high owl]

shows you the total waves completed from doing tower defense

[livid raft]

Yea I got told that thank you. But do you have to turn in the 100K statues or just loot them?

[high owl]

just loot em, the quest doesn't take the statues when you complete the quest

[dapper prism]

It was just looting 100k statues total

[livid raft]

Ah nice. I'm already at 10K looted in the past like 14mins lol. DK is pretty fast I guess...

[misty spindle]

thats all the upgrade from gaming does?

[dapper prism]

So for crappy grind classes like BB and BM, you could work on skilling statues

[dapper prism]

Check the other superbit unlocks in wiki

There's MSA for dmg, sailing speed, skipp xp and stuff like that

[misty spindle]

I get it, it sets up other superbits

doesnt really matter if Im not pushing i guess

[serene kiln]

Is it best to farm cards afk or active?

[signal osprey]

Active ES will farm cards the fastest

[high owl]

yes until later when you unlocks buffs from total MSA levels

[serene kiln]

Thank you

[high owl]

debatable. DK is a contender here with card drop rate cards equipped

[signal osprey]

ES should farm normal monster cards significantly better than DK

Your ES would have to be set up wrong or just neglected for that to not be the case

[nimble yarrow]

If I have bubo and another character both active in lab, and I have the Voidwalker Enhancement for green tubes active, does that character gain the boosted skill xp?

[dapper prism]

Not sure about the answer, but on a side note, afaik the bubo doesn't even have to be "active" in the lab, just has to be on the far right of the mainframe.

[dapper prism]

Just remember, skilling cards only get obtained afk (and would be vman, bb for fishing)

[lapis mesa]

neat, just cleared my first wave 100 TD. lets see how far i can push it

[placid fox]

im thinking of starting to hardfarm katlekruks keys for scarfs and the trophy, wich character should be best? im guessing either DK or ES

[signal osprey]

DK at wurms is the best key farmer

[placid fox]

k thx

[dapper prism]

For a reason, ES wormhole portal kills scales with the hp of mobs, so in Areas like W5, especially deeper w5 you just cant stack wormhole good enough in comparison to DK ORB that just 1 shots everything, even with Midas prayer later on.

[placid fox]

yeah and i probably gonna have midas minded active so the hp should go to the moon

[upbeat falcon]

is Purrmep supposed to visually change divinity gains in the afk menu?

[sleek valve]

does voidman buffs stack ?

[upbeat falcon]

for the love of all, don't get 2 journeymen

[dapper prism]

What, like if you had 2 vman?

[sleek valve]

yeah...

[placid fox]

nop

[sleek valve]

unlucky xD

[dapper prism]

Nothing ever stacks afaik that counts for everyone..

Same with dk, sb, es for w5 skill stuff

[upbeat falcon]

Always the highest player or skill lvl I believe

[zinc torrent]

There is world 5?!

[sleek valve]

ye

[upbeat falcon]

yes full of lavaflame2's

[sleek valve]

after mele weapon from boss 5 which weapon is next ?

bow ?

[zinc torrent]

Can somone help me in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳

[placid fox]

bow then staff

[sleek valve]

ohh good

[placid fox]

im personally getting 200 hamster for a better bag to craft the boss nuckles rn

[sleek valve]

oh and any way to even more buff my dmg ? am at 13439,8M-21345,8M

[dapper prism]

Someone already answered it in detail like 15mins ago...?

[zinc torrent]

I don't think so

[placid fox]

in SB yeah for the rest of the characters idk my SB is at 250b while the rest at 40b

[sleek valve]

my SB is the strongest but i cant do nightmare w5 boss so quickly

[placid fox]

for me it still takes a while

[dapper prism]

Porbably due to alch bubble 2 and last one. and artifacts

[glacial venture]

atk dmg is not everything

[sleek valve]

is it worth to max out Enhancment Eclipse on vman ?

[dapper prism]

Not max... since no benefit after 225

[sleek valve]

so is it worth ? to 225 ?

[placid fox]

i have it 175 for the moment

[dapper prism]

225 itself if u can reach it is amazing, +20s on knight disciple

[dapper prism]

You cant reach 250

[placid fox]

btw i seen people speak of getting to 20x drop rate on ES mine is at 14x but idk what other souces except w5 trophy and just better alchemy could i be missing

[dry birch]

what is the average amount of kills to get the maestro weapon drop from w5, Im on 130M kills atm still no drop

[dapper prism]

Kills are irrelevant since MK does nothing for drops

[placid fox]

if u have multikill that doesnt count

[dapper prism]

But you should have an average of 1k of those other rare drops from it

[sharp vine]

130mil death note kills =/= 130mil kills for recipe though. But yeah it took me like 143mil I think

[dry birch]

thanks for the info, still awhile to go then 😦

[placid fox]

i got it in the amount of kills to unlock the portal

xd

[dapper prism]

My mk is 16x at suggma, so it would take me like 900m kills to get it atm

[dapper prism]

SB plunderous talent is a multi. Shop bundle is a multi too, those 2 do a lot. Then it comes down to all the small things, DR keychains, chips, cards, etc.

[sharp vine]

I wasn't really doing anything else with my account at the time so I had like 3 people farming it, honestly didn't take me a terribly long time

[upbeat falcon]

So will the Purrmep god 2x divinity bonus show in afk info at the altar??

[placid fox]

i got the shop bundle and SB plunder is 100k the key chains are on my maestro tho

[modern plaza]

got those kachow onyx, need another 10k to actually level it up haha

[misty spindle]

am I crazy or is killroys "next mob you kill spawns a crystal" bugged?

[placid fox]

i would onyx every other statue before depositing

[upbeat falcon]

I just unlocked but it hasn't reflected in any changes

[sharp vine]

It is for me. Bought a ton of them to speed statue farming, spawned literally zero

[dapper prism]

You equip him on someone, then check afk info?

[upbeat falcon]

I did

I just logged in on a character and only get the same amount from afk info

[dapper prism]

Those are so terrible, never buy them

[misty spindle]

I bought one for fun to see W5 crystal and nothing

[sharp vine]

Don't tell me how to play ❤️

[dapper prism]

Personally no clue if it shows or not, would have assumed it does. But idk 🤷

[placid fox]

btw i checked my ES obols and my DR obols were on my dk now it's 15.5x

[upbeat falcon]

It isn't applied at all right now and idk how to get it working

[dapper prism]

Cloudsaved?

Like for atoms, you need to cloudsave for them to work

[upbeat falcon]

I tried that too, I cloudsaved and restarted the game. Nothing rolled back

I expect it to start working randomly in the next 24 hours tbh

[dapper prism]

It's not on a lvl 1 div char right? and u did lvl it a bit?

[prisma drift]

Let’s go I got my crystal chance down from 32 to 31 today

[dapper prism]

Not sure what the bonus is initially

[placid fox]

tbh i usually see them with the purple tag but atm i don't see the printed items in purple

[prisma drift]

Now my game can crash just a little bit more

[upbeat falcon]

Yeah my lowest divinity guys are at 35 right now

[dapper prism]

Btw, crystal chance is a %, not a flat fraction like that. So any upgrade helps. Although seeing the change visually is nice, the % can be seen on toolbox.

[prisma drift]

Yeah I learned that from you a while ago

[upbeat falcon]

Thanks for the help trickz!

[dapper prism]

Ah xD

[prisma drift]

Seen you tell someone else while I was lurking haha

[dapper prism]

Yes sorry, and np, as said, not sure when/where and if it even displays

[prisma drift]

iOS can’t handle my DR/ crystal chance

[placid fox]

i got 1/28 on my dk what ur chance?

[placid fox]

i disable mob drops on my pc or it will crash

[prisma drift]

I have everything but statues off

It crashes from the sheer amount of statues on iOS

[placid fox]

basically the same except clovers so i can see them comming

[prisma drift]

I even have obols and leaves filtered lol

[modern plaza]

obols are too much clutter

[placid fox]

i don't and i should do it tbh i have alr 5k fragments

[modern plaza]

need auto obol trasher pet

[prisma drift]

3 pages was a god send

But now I want 10 pages of filter

I’ll fukn pay for them too

[placid fox]

make it on the automation arm instead of a pet

[prisma drift]

Anyone got 6B bricks to spare

[vocal ibex]

Idk how to get 1 m bricks

[placid fox]

i have it lvl 160 and got better cristal chance

[prisma drift]

I started April 12th this year

My shrines aren’t great

[placid fox]

ah

yeah this account have like 2 and a half years

even tho i took atleast 2 years of downtime

[plush spear]

We found the og

[prisma drift]

My SB is stronger than my ES now

Rip mage supremacy

[placid fox]

yep 2 years and a bit

[upbeat falcon]

wow

[placid fox]

funny part is this was when i came to steam i alr have a account before

[upbeat falcon]

So that means I've been playing for 11 months

I lost track ngl

I've been busy with the rest of life too

[placid fox]

time flies

[west pasture]

for weapons and armor after hitting W5 should you still be using stones for accuracy (even if you already hit accuracy requirements) or main stat stones?

[sick sentinel]

you'll keep getting more accuracy so just do main stat

[dapper prism]

Shouldn't need accuracy stone pretty early into w5. For old /low gear u can keep it, but for the gear just do mainstat

[misty spindle]

Is this game botted so much or does this not count android and ios players?

[west pasture]

awesome that's what i thought, thanks!

[upbeat falcon]

Is that a steam achievement?

[placid fox]

nop

[upbeat falcon]

If so it's only PC

[placid fox]

u can still use the steam achievement unlocker app if u really want it

[misty spindle]

should I get chizoar or lustre armor?

[dapper prism]

Chiz

[placid fox]

chizoar< troll<magma

[misty spindle]

but lustre can later be uzed for crafting other stuff

[dapper prism]

You do not make lustre or diabolitical gear ever unless slab or now for shimmer weekly

[misty spindle]

wow

[placid fox]

that's only slab

[misty spindle]

its that bad?

[dapper prism]

No, Troll to magma is standalone gear

Troll builds off nothing really

[placid fox]

builds of salts

[sick sentinel]

lustre boots make the skilling boots tbf but yeah

[misty spindle]

so chiz till I can craft troll and actually wear it

[dapper prism]

Well duh.. the point is based on smithing, other gear..

[dapper prism]

I had 10/10 Chiz, then timegated by salts until Troll and troll should pretty much instantly be possible into Magma

[placid fox]

yeah i went from troll to magma in a couple of days, main problem is if u don't have the bp

[misty spindle]

Do I need 10/10 chiz? feels like an overkill

[placid fox]

10/10 is scarf isn't it?

[dapper prism]

Don't need it, only need 3 sets, but chiz was just so easy to get

At least, it's very easy to get if you dont neglect your 3d prints and stuff.

[misty spindle]

so magma is crafted from troll armor I get it

[placid fox]

divine gear w5 boss crafted from magma armor wich is crafted from troll w4 boss

[dapper prism]

Lustre and Dia Misc stat is +% Defence, you want dmg, not defence. thats why Chiz is better damn those usually.

[placid fox]

divine gear isn't that good tho

[dapper prism]

Just situational pieces.

[placid fox]

yeah, for now i only got helmet and shoes for DR

[opaque sun]

the misc is good, but not like a complete upgrade from magma

[misty spindle]

isnt that kind of a fuck up from lava tho? chiz and troll seem much easier to craft then lustre and other one

[whole epoch]

Maybe I was just under leveled, but doing Kattlecruk was a pain in the ass as BB.
I'm assuming to properly grind I'd need to level up a multi target attack talent class like Elemental or DivineKnight yeah?

[dapper prism]

Just feels like a time gate on highest gear that gets easier and easier with certain new things like rift.

[placid fox]

i mean the armor from the previus world was always easier to craft than the armor of the actual world and no one was crafting that armor anywhay

[misty spindle]

well obviosly, W6 and further is coming it has to

[placid fox]

if u can oneshot the moleminers dk is afkable but dmg speeds it up

[whole epoch]

Yeah I sort of just out damaged the healing which is how I won

So I'm assuming my BB just needs more damage

[dapper prism]

You shouldnt even be using BB in w5 tbh..

[placid fox]

idk i just let my dk statue clear the mobs, but i have almost full uptime of 2 statues so there's that

[dapper prism]

Bubo and DK need to be last zone w5. Rest is whatever. Exception is Merit/quest row for NM Kattle for trophy unlocks

[placid fox]

my SB is my pusher, proud of being archer main

[dapper prism]

Until you need to farm kattle keys, money or CC and actually need/want bubo/dk in last zone 👀

[whole epoch]

Alright gotcha

[placid fox]

yeah i was doing that a couple of months ago

[feral whale]

question if i have infinity star mark on star sign that i dont open it would work? or i must open to it work?

[whole epoch]

Gonna need a lot of salts for new weapons

[placid fox]

750 each

[dry birch]

void salt?

[dapper prism]

Any locked star sign with infinite still works. Just cant equip it (along with the starsign chip) to double the equipped starsigns

[placid fox]

yep 750 nullo salts to make the w4 max weapon upgrade

then u need 100 hampsters wich will take forever

[dry birch]

ive got the magma wep still working on getting chaotic kattle to 30 sec kill, need more dps

[feral whale]

if i choose star sign that already infinity it doble effect or better choose another not infinity?

[dapper prism]

Yay all of W3 is now eclipsed (except for poor bloodbones, might active them for some pens?) 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/FzaAgam.png

[dapper prism]

Only lab chip will double effect

[placid fox]

the first time i took down nightmare katle took me 30min, now about 3min

[placid fox]

i got 5k pens wich i don't want to do cause my hand will hurt like crazy

[dry birch]

get a green stack of pens

[placid fox]

i got in the past carpal tunnel problems

[dapper prism]

Yup 👀
https://i.imgur.com/EbZAJQo.png

[placid fox]

waiting for lava max buy option i see

[opaque sun]

I got 200k pens that i dont even want to look at

[placid fox]

alr maxed miriad crate i see

[versed quail]

how y’all getting so many pens

[placid fox]

just farming 60k power statues i got 2k pens

[little pagoda]

This reviewer has clearly never been to this discord

[dapper prism]

Active DK with proper crystal chance and choco chip.

[plush spear]

Is there any reason why my daily things not showed off when i log in the first time at the day? Like nblb and automation arm things, is it just visual bug or it's really not triggered?

[upbeat falcon]

Check your guild reset time

Mine has been shifted 3 hours later after no changes in half a year and has fluctuated a good bit since then

[plush spear]

That is not my question 😭 i know when it's doing daily reset, but my nblb and the other things doesn't seems triggered

[gentle anchor]

why this still only 4%

[upbeat falcon]

It happens to me sometimes infrequently

[feral whale]

i try to upgrade some of my early stamps they so under-pumped like hell bad

[placid fox]

cause it's multiplicative

[gentle anchor]

it doesnt increase

ye O.66% x 245 is more than 4%

[feral whale]

i just raze my chop eff like on 30% and can do more after litle farm

[upbeat falcon]

When you start to have like 4-8+ hundred meal levels it gets to insane scaling

[placid fox]

it's 0.66x0.66 elevated to 245 tho

[gentle anchor]

O.66xO.66 245 times?

[placid fox]

yep

[gentle anchor]

that isnt right

it will keep 66% of the previous number meaning the more meals u have the less % u have

[placid fox]

this im on dark so idk where that symbol is

[placid fox]

nop

the more meals u have the bigger the 0.66 will retain

[gentle anchor]

O.66%xO.66% is less than O.66

[dapper prism]

that's 1.0066 ^ number of plates i think?

[placid fox]

exactly

[gentle anchor]

ow that could be true

[placid fox]

this is mine, it grows really hard

[dapper prism]

Could just Ctrl+F it, this has been explained dozens of time

[upbeat falcon]

Okay that's what I was thinking-
(.66*.66)^245

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

Either way, it ends up basically being exponentially better

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/T4MPvJo.png

[placid fox]

oof

what lvl u have the atom cooking speed upgrade?

[dapper prism]

Like 13 ish?

[placid fox]

im starting to slow down with just void upgrade tbh

mine is lvl 2

i guess i gotta work more on atoms

[dapper prism]

Yeh but that has nothing to do with the vman talent itself

Here, last atoms left for me:
https://i.imgur.com/UIDloHn.png

[placid fox]

it takes me 300 laddles for least cooking time

that's why i stopped for the time being

[gentle anchor]

so at lvl 1OO u will need 7O1 plates to get +1OO% cooking speed

if u do 1.0066^7O1

[dapper prism]

Lol, https://i.imgur.com/0nvE6Qy.png

forgot to cloudsave 😉

but image

[placid fox]

40T days seems good to me

[gentle anchor]

how many do u get a day?

i get 100

[placid fox]

i think i get like 1k or 1.2k

[lavish grotto]

is this able to be stacked to 100% with enough of it?

[dapper prism]

depends who i put my wings and keychains on, but usually 2.5k, think i could go to 3k+

[gentle anchor]

thats a lot

[placid fox]

i guess if u get quadrillions of it

[dapper prism]

Like 100k or 200k or something

[tall horizon]

less on a warrior

[dapper prism]

Also depends on your stamp, and what class, warri is easiest

[lavish grotto]

this game loves diminishing returns

[placid fox]

oh it's whay less than i expected

[dapper prism]

It also loves exponential rates where you'll get few k of those a day later on

[tall horizon]

warrior > bubo > everyone else for ease of maxing

also, turban for gold food boost, if they are in lab/div

[dapper prism]

Doesnt it max before 100% because of bubble?

[opaque sun]

warriors who got gold food bonus talent can reach 100% relatively easily. Other classes can reach effective 100% when you consider the addition from sail big bubble

[tall horizon]

im uncertain tbh... i know people say they add, but food + bubble over 100% has resulted in a non proc for me