#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸
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just to one toon though, right?
those go infinitely, only soft capped at absurd numbers
small bites to finish the cake. if i'm in world 5, would to reccomend just stepping back and working in order on w1-5 mechanics??
yea just to one toon, cause purpmep needs to be linked to give the main bonus
yea, go back and work on prev world's mechanics, since w5 mechanics are largely time gated anyway and more afk and idle
BB should win in damage, neither is the damage class though
Getting bb weaker than vman requires lot of effort
okie doke. thank u for giving me advice i probbably already knew inside me. helps hearing from a stranger
Vman should still be like 1/10 damage of a bb
void walker
The next class after maestro
yee i get you bro, was there once too, just take it slow and tackle it slowly
this new update had me scramblling to farm statues, but very much humbled me when it was VERY slow
yeah it was a good reality check lol

lotta statues to farm, make sure you save up the mats for choco chip from the w4 lab when december hits
yea the difference between having and not having choc chic is quite big
dont be sad, it got a lot of us lol
"the great humbling update"
got Kruk on a 1.. now its just you Bagur man
funny thing is that since i was in world 5 I was feeling confident like, "yay finally an upate i feel ready for"... nope
i started in may and the only choco chip wasnt until dec
so i just bought it
and then the one after dec is in feb
i would very much like an adjustment to the rotation system.
like who makes these rotations
better yet just delete all the green chips from the game lol
if lava at least remove the DR cap from the chip, it would be more useful than this state
like nerf to 0.3 Dr if lava wants but just need no cap
yeah that would be good
acc and def chip tho omegalul
move speed chip could be bit more useful as quick slap buffer if also removed the cap
would be better than just slamming everyone with black and orange chips
Id like to see it similar to the fishing store honestly, except instead of coins its mats and resources, heck make the end game ones almost on par with making a trophy for all i care, just something i can actively work towards. he does make a bit of cash from it though so i doubt it
what fishing store exactly? not sure if i get it
lol, the little guy on the pier who sells bobbers and cattleprods token
i know, i understand it, just makes it harder on my end. i have to wait on the cycle
or farm chiz like a madman and keep buying chips every week
or farm kruk while getting scarf and cape i guess
so thats getting keys from slush to farm chiz on normal for the one gem a shot right?
kinda doing that but need pens, colo ticks and chiz keys, oof
scarf is already going into my filter list
oh you mean kruk
more like doing w3 colo, getting a bunch of keys then doing chiz. And getting more keys back via silver pen po box that gives colo ticket
sounds pepega
i tried doing 300 keys and it felt baddd

so im just gonna wait for new bundles
kruk farming is the same but at least we get cape and scarf
only get cape from nmare which is 70 keys 🙂
my pen farm just isnt quite on point for that
farming the pens is the easy part
but i guess i should be going that route anyway instead of waiting on events and the like. it would give me a definitive thing to do
even one gem at a time, which would be SUPER LAME
but, its a route i can take when otherwise im watching plants grow in the gaming screen lol
have a few to go through as well
youre gonna spend 2 hours to farm 300 gems for one chip and it'll be a movespeed chip
yeah, youre probably right
damn i need some kruk keys, luckily now it will be part of statue farming at w5 with dk
How am I doing for EXP multi?
it could be any chip
1/22 chance
not so bad if u can buy 7 from farming chiz
soul draining though
it's like $20 for like 1 or 2 useable chips
yea 1 choc chip is enough
after choco chip you are just fishing for black and orange chips
and a couple blue chips i guess
i stop after choc chip 
i told myself i would stop 
the orange and black chips are just too strong
yea they're really strong
i mean, i could just farm the gems and use them elsewhere, just accept i wont have choco til dec
any super endgamers got an IE i can look at? curious to see everything at a super endgame level
Which one orange
Whats their bonuses lol
pendant doubler, keychain doubler, trophy doubler
there's a bunch
i like to look at zelb's IE, its last updated 10 days ago but still real good
zelbs: (sorry zelb, hope you don't mind)
https://zelb.idleonefficiency.com/
yeah its one of my tabs saved for weeks
man this 2 week's rotation sucks
Just highest person i could think of right away xD
same
Was it zelb who has the 500t ES or someone else?
quick slap
dayum, 10k bubble 1
Eclipse skulls going to be doing some heavy lifting in that
probably gonna start quick slap after 1100 larry 
Go big or go home!
https://i.imgur.com/nq6SRw7.png
im doin both at the same time
Doesn’t anything over 100% do nothing?
i dont have the patience for 2100 XD
u can get +3 levels
over 100% gives chance for +3
I wanted to do quick slap, but i need to do statue for another 2ish days
my prints smol
u got a bigger larry than me at least lol
atoms op
heh
yeah i havent been atoming, just clickin it every 2 hrs i think
nice
im probably gonna stop around 20%
just because im probably gonna stop statues when it takes more than one overnight for al evel
was vman run a pin or tips and tricks
I just want to max what i get from crit dmg
my statue bubbles at 173, i prob wont bother leveling it much, maybe 20% as well
thanks, scrolled right over it the first time
at the end of the day even 20% crit damage wont do a whole lot when you already have like 700%
would only affect shimmer trials really
and possibly rift if new levels come out
ok so it seems next update is indeed w6
Yeh but 2.5% more progress each lvl up is still a lot when most my statues are still pretty low
if you think about it 2.5% is not a lot when your statues are low
especially when you farm 20k an hour at beans
wait does zelb not have sheepie? i only see 3 active bubbles
i got a choppin eff shimmer trial ending in 84 hours. Im hoping i can get all 25 statues onyxed by then so i can pump the lumber statue super high
IE doesn't do companions well on public profiles. probably does
ahh
True too
But.. it's 1-2 days for a pemanent helpful buff
wheras quick slap would do 0 for me
i guess so
Same reason i got con xp to lvl 1k early on
it is probably the most efficient route if you are trying to minmax
dang w5 statues are taking me longer than i thought they would
This button looking fun 😄
https://i.imgur.com/S9IF6Ga.png
yeah w5 statues gonna take me a solid 24-30 hrs
took me roughly 2 days for the w5 ones
you all candy w3?
i did
time to divide them up for optimal gains!
square up
ehh i might do stacks of 1000
do you know how many hrs of candy it took? guessing you used vman
dont got time for that
screw you nerds im going back to w1 chat
depends, for me ES > vman
it was about 250 hours per
remember to deposit kapow in small batches (1 lv per deposit)
yeah
why?
u miss out on the lvl up bonus setting ur exp to a certain value if u do it in bulk
This was from 2h candy:
17x DR, 340% AFK gain
https://i.imgur.com/xYa06gw.png
kapow only statue that is truly limited
Startue Exp bubble only apply for one level if you level up multiple statue levels at once
If statue levels up from 1-30 level at once, startue exp bubble’s “starts at X%” doesnt apply for lv2-29
Just YOLO hit the "DEPO all button" ezpz 
i was doin that almost daily before this statue update dropped lmao
i hit the deposit all button 1 minute before restarting game and receiving onyx statue update
whats the actual long-term grinding source for kachow statue? if not for the new w4 quest
Same, i got all my alts w1-2 skills from 40-60s to 90-100's 2 days before update, depo'd all 
Other statues i depo all, but kapow being limited in numbers, its worth considering
u wanna do daily picnic quest for 3 a day?
10x alts, 3 a day
not worth tbh
vs... 10x 10k => 100k from quest 🤔
would be redundant to have crit dmg trial and a dps trial
maybe after depositing all the kachow statues u will be like 99% of the way into a level
so after level 5 the bonus doesnt increase?
All stat trial and each specific stat trial exists
then u gotta farm the rest XD
touche
well.. got a couple more portals that speed run.. forgot to sample ANYTHING... UGH
So with all onyx statues, and snake skin vial at 2x, total value should be 1=7 yes?
time to get same bonus increases, so not really worth it, when u could be doing other pets
Its just suggesting maybe you want to change to another shiny
It does, but usually meta is to stop at lvl 5, since 1 to 5 is basically same long as 5 to 6 if i recall it right?
By default its made to give a warning you reached the default notification milestone of lv5
Although going lvl 6 on shiny speed isnt that bad tbh
@solid epoch still doing w5 statues?
nah i finished them a few hrs ago. doing w2 sandy pots now
It should be worded like “gmush reached your notification reminder level”
Ah different order.
yea
“Surpassed” and “threshold” makes it sound something terrible
gotta stop farming statues for an hour though to do my daily water farm
ran out of water completely from the hourly clicks + i still need like 8000 water for the atom clicks
i might just yolo spam candies to finish these statues faster idk
i really wanna deposit everything for big stonks
how long to refill cauldron? daily clicks are eating up my liquid and im considering leveling cooking roadkill more to shorten it
hourly*
Ima probably burn candy through W3 while eclipsing and hope i get a bunch along the way
I get like 3k water per 15mins (with lab on)
ehh i never really timed it
maybe ill do that
CC minutes into hours times your water rate. most CC cycles on the high end should be under 15mins
whats your cooking roadkill bubble level?
i took cooking roadkill to 116% then called it quits
I get 100h skips, 360k sec, 100% (350 bubble)
i maxed po box and CC bubble, maybe next logical step is to keep pumping the liquid regen stamp
im around the same spot too
what are your liquid rate? on the cauldron itself
per hour ticks
or whatever the base unit is haha
29.5
ah makes sense, im on 14 rn
hence why i said 3k water per 15mins..

29.5 x 100 = ~3k
i shud aim for that as a side goal, it takes me a couple of hours to fill up liquid 1 rn
100% focus on some liquid rate buff levels first
need to upgrade my rate and cap on my first one
yea been leveling my cooking roadkill this 2 days, almost 350
lol the most untouched sigil of all time i bet
Also dont do the 1:1 level up. I went for like 30/75 then 50/100 (cap/rate) starting with rate mostly
then probably work on the stamp
Takes me maybe like 30-40 min of cc to fill cauldron
does more nugget digged at once= bigger nuggets?
Never really measured it tho
no
Eh, more like bigger range (bigger possible nugget)
You still roll you 1% bottom value nugget like 99% of the time 
In total, you are just getting less trials per hour if you do that
kk
i once rolled a nugget that is 85% my current nugget, feels bad knowing it hit the big roll but not big enough
oh sorry, misunderstood, thought you wrote more shovel

so should I do it whenever it readys or I should leave it a day
Currently the best efficiency (most nugget tries) is shovel every hour
Each extra nugget takes longer, here's a timer. Formated time doesnt show days so its a bit off. but the seconds give the idea
https://i.imgur.com/DCcyWyJ.png
ok, had some biggies to kill for cards, gonna throw gems at the chip gamba one time.. just for the giggles
Also, nugget timer starts when you clicked the shovel last. and takes a full 60mins for the first nugget. If you click the shovel early (at 59mins for example) then it resets the full timer..
When you get the 25% more nugget bonus from fractal island, the efficient timing might change as that makes the number of nuggets pop out more by 25%
As in if a shovel digs 4 nuggets, you now get 5
But if you did hourly, the fractal bonus does nothing
Yay just got the bird god!
eh, not a full waste, just not quite what i was wanting. Oh well
And then I get American Tipper lv35 2x....
What is the common strategy to maintain meastro's left right hand?
level up his skills
so i just unlocked 5th god, I have 7 characters sitting lab with 5th god linked (mantra). meastro doing skills and BB cooking. Am I on the right tracks?
pretty much any bubble thats lvl 1 might need some work
cant push past this 💀
6m kill with no good platform is too much
at the start just try to increase ur average bubble level across the board to be higher while focusing on unlocking more bubbles with ur characters in the cauldrons
You seriously neglect your bubo?
At least do your daily CC's for water.. and get proper 3D prints going so you can afford it.. Those bubbles are honestly the worst ive seen in w5..
his CCs aint gonna do nothin with a lvl 1 cooking roadkill lol
i wouldnt try it until you can 1 tick poison on your bubo or you have some multikill
jesus
I was about to do a "wait to see mine" joke but it is indeed heavily underleveled damn
yeah its about 2m kill per 24 hours
in 3 days i can prob double my damage
Also keep in mind, "is there a benefit of doing this" , if you're lacking the dmg, don't have fury (200 tente) and stuff like that, then there's not too much purpose to hit wurms, especially since you wont 1shot them for a bit. So your CC will come from citringes initially.
i need the mats for upgrade alch mainly
Awh
but i suppose i can find alt ways
good thing theres always something to do
yeah that one literally 2x'd my damage with like 40 levels
thats too
but i was talking about lab
oh
yeah for greenstacks
greenstacks r gud
not thaty either
the one jjejwel
hold on let me find it
oh hey, shiny new toy
yeah they are primary source of dmg at the end of w4/start of w5
oh
Eh
you'll get it eventually
That's not even used when you don't have doot
i mean its gonna be a 3x boost so
nah
idk how the multi works but surly its gonna push me past 1b
10 runs.. 1 wing, 3 blankies 4 obols and only 1 card.. really?
Unless im mixing it up
its not a 3x boost, like a 25% boost ish
once everyone has a blankie i have no need for more right?
yeah so still a pretty gud one
if even that, idk if its additive or multiplicative with other bonuses
trickz you dont have doot?
its fine doot will cover 👍
could be lower than 25%
503'939m with
495'761m without
It's minimal
It's additive with a crap ton of other stuff
I do, im saying that jewel won't do much, and non dooters would typically not even use it.
And even with doot, you can see the difference is barely.. 1-1.5% dmg
aight so its like a 1% boost in actuality then
oh i just saw your pic and your chars were offline
guessing its an older pic?
u might need to find some other sources of dmg then
Thats w4 pins pic
doh
cant screenshot full Lab ui at once like that
Although sometimes i wonder.. why it wasnt all on 1 pic like that ingame 
yeah its annoying to get full UI. gotta open up paint and take 2 screenshots
pixels would be too big 
https://gladdon.idleonefficiency.com
is there any tips? Feel like I did everything major with the time given at hand
upgrading this will give u a ton of wis
its p cheap at the start
also get ur other agi stamp
Also Bubble 2's
ye atom these if u can
bubble ones u can just try to purchase with the materials from printing
only purple is in atom range
ah true
More important, Check your Alch more, and dont let NBLB hit easy bubbles..
present, toilet paper, cog in yellow
then mastery green , basically all NBLB are hitting very cheap and easy bubbles
Like you print 6k+ goldfish/h atm, but have NBLB hitting stuff like this:
https://i.imgur.com/gFuZGh6.png
Long term, it is very beneficial to force NBLB onto the hard time gated crap like salts, or trapping critters, that kinda stuf
this will give u decent dmg if u have a good amount of golden kebabs or w5 golden nomwiches
Even Bars and anvil supply items
Using Coldseeker bullets is strong too
Overall, gear:
https://i.imgur.com/WVZjtZK.png
shh ignoure that im maining bubo
Could toss on like an iron pickaxe, all those small things, help
thats the left over gear
still on ur bubo
ur using iron tools
raise every tool to at least dementia or void
gotta do more dungeon then
yeah put those mob respawn ones on ur afk mob farmer, typically ur siegebreaker
Was about to say, maybe move basic ones from ES2, then i saw it... 👀
I saw what cannot be unseen 😉
i mean its the ones from gemshop so
oh

there were afk ones in the gemshop?
oh wait nvm i thought you ment uh
Nawh
Glad means the mob res
got lucky yeah
@fast verge Drop that pickaxe and pick it up again
ok goals:
more alch
better tools
get the tube thing from anvil for more shimmeron
and RESAMPLE for more atoms
also do td again today for souls
Since it's not slabbed yet:
https://i.imgur.com/WdBs1Zj.png
yea get those souls so u can upgrade the stamp
(just a random side note)
Do tools matter? Isnt it a tiny boost?
They can matter a lot
yeah its kinda sad that i missed a lot of slab from not dropping it
eg the world card packs
Can give bilions dmg
And more stat
Not billions
All tools togather
I still use amarok armor with w2 stones on my guys
yeh guess maybe at super end game
a tool with only 1 extra WIS gives me 10's of millions in dmg
Like mid game i think
these stamps are a real nice boost to stats, currently im getting +616 for each stat at this current level. and its not crazy high lvl either
some people get like lvl 90-100
prob even higher
time to get this up slowly
True, mixed it up, im thinking of the extra stat between poop and normal tool, not tools as a whole
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@zinc torrent @noble mesa
Example of how a tool with only 12 WIS more can give a ton of dmg (40bil) Tool with 24 wis vs 36 wis
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
I went for full red tools on my es and its gives me like 20~40b
I think
Get that mostly when you have 200 tente
oh i have 240 ish
That seems like a tiny boost
i listen to your advice and got it a bit higher then just 200
Oh okay, and liquid cauldrons leveld?
well
i dont know what lvl should i stop at
lvl 50 ish?
100
Because that's a single tool with only 36 wis... I now also got dreadlo throughout which has 60-70 stats..
100 is a nice sweet spot to go for tbh
But not necessarily in one go right away since getting a few things into GT soon too will help your lvls along the grind. boosting you too
Definetely go for like 75ish though.
👍
Also other variables like how good/bad your CC is but towards lvl 90-100 liquid lvls its about 5-6k liquid per level up
its around 100k per use
Think you could peep my Alchemy Trickz and help me formulate a strategy?
People really reviews ie profiles
I can glance at it, but about to focus on some other stuff
Just need like a top 3 to focus based on where I am
I feel like I'm just dumping all over the place and I wonder what would get the most gains
Thing is, there's more to alch than that. everything comes hand in hand in some way, like.. if you need atoms, what skilling atoms. If u lack dmg, or whatever really
I'm making about 200k atoms a day
Post it though, as said i can look at it
Why only 9 of 10 daily keys in w1 to 3?
do u want to make more atoms?
or dmg?
some of ur chopping bubbles are kinda low so if u increase em u will get bigger log prints
Could start off with: Finish Larry to 1100 for 110%
w1 better ignore with 1 char for bone greenstack anyways
just for 1 char and w1 tho, def do all 10 in w2 and w3
I have been focusing Larry, I didnt know how much Consturction would help based on where I'm at in the game
I invested in talent points to juice my Mages for log prints
and I'm just getting around to where most things are atomable, and using reduction and atoms to upgrade for NBLB
atoming callmebob isnt a bad option, but yeah after larry probs
I would be getting con to 1k early on after larry. Easy to do and it's a long benefit. any day you dont have it, you're not getting as much con xp, less levels
oh yeah hi guys whats the good thing to craft for smithing xp
Especially since your worship is pretty low in TD
w5 bullet recipe
dont have it :((
Also, please stop spamming ES worship and get your alts a little further up, being lvl 60's is rough imo, bigger storage throughout with that, better skulls, better rate.
Side note: your ES is full on worship atm
then w3 worship gum ig
yeah at least get all char to good skull as worship investment and stat stick
Frozen best for worhsip exp?
i should get a bunch more tools built for my duders
Use the #1087501872002256966 message Spreadsheet to hit effy ranges for your goals. If you plan on doing atom, lvl skilling bubbles to 85% effy, then 90% etc.
Since some of the w5 bubbles seem underleveled
Soul gum is spamable and good exp
Used to be the original smith exp item before cold bullets
Thanks for the quick info, appreciate the help
check IE worship tab and go for the highest exp per charge point
Are we allowed to talk about the place where people store their automotive work equipment? I find the Alchemy section super helpful.
Not sure if you're referring to rule 4?
#server-rules message
I'm talking about the place like IE but square shaped
Sorry i'm lost 🤷
Toolbox
Oh lol, why wouldnt we be able to talk about toolbox?
There's even a server command
!it
https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331
Power up your Legends of Idleon adventure with Idleon Toolbox's essential tools and resources for optimizing gameplay, character builds, crafting, and more.
I still prefer IT to IE overall
IT does a lot of things better than IE now
I use them both for different things I like about each one
Once snakeskin vial is level 13, how many vials via mastery are needed for the 100% deposit?
26
alright bulleyes statue left, then W3 W4 and W5 statue
and after that w2 then w1? :p
those are done!
oceanman(3.6k)-bulleyes(8k)-box(2.3k)-twosoul(13k already here)-seesaw(1.6k)-pecunia-mutton-egg-battleaxe-spiral-boat Left
it burns my finger to turn it in xD
W3 statues are annoying
Cuz they drop as first page dropa from stuff, ao u need to use ES
yeah well i afk my guy at quenchie right now to stack DEath note/statue/ressources
imma active W4 and W5 with DK and once thats done i'll ES the rest of W3/afk/candy it
@dapper prism ok i did some min maxing with tools and got +200m damage
change those keychains out yo
do u have the mega crit talent yet? that will be pretty important to get enough dmg
okok fine its just i dont have good non afk keychain
me either but anythin will work
i mean i have the damage just not enough number damage
for multi kill
so
oh do u 1 shot crystals with ur poison already?
if not getting mega crit will make that a possibility
even if u dont quite reach multikill, if u can 1 shot with 1 tick of poison itll help quite a lot
ok i sacced 70m damage for 40% cc
when i was pushing w5 on release I didnt have multikill either on my bubo. getting mega crit and equipping the w4 cardset for the extra crit chance instead of bosses and nightmares was actually quite a bit better
maxed ur farsight talent?
yeah
also this star talent helps a lot
have it maxed too
i actully have lvl 150 on thgat
nice
u got megalodon trophy? pretty hard to get but i went for it so that i could reach 200% back then
nah
ill try for it i suppose
its one whale and miss 2 whale right
i think its 2 whales and miss the third one like 3 times
takes a lot of patience
other than that the statues will be big for ur crit
i mean i have 330%+ at this point its useless
getting that double boost from the onyx buff will prob launch u straight to 200% crit. might be kinda hard to farm depending on ur DR
yeah its good for someone that needs crit rn tho
Ultra crit when?
ok sooo do i get 99% chance our no?
It helps when the crit % shimmer trial comes around
yeah thatll be nice
true!
still need 3812% crit for 40 shimmers but the statue buff helped a bit lol
Its bugged to cap at aroun 95% or something, but yeah you hardly consume foods
i have 27% on the bigorange bubble so with 4.5x jewel i get 95% right?
topbird should i wait for my egg to be bronze/silver/gold to use em for best exp or just spam em? and opne the last W4 pet?
wHALE
nice, i like to take my time on each one. if u go too fast u might mess up
L
but yeah if u dont want to get that trophy u could always just farm beans for 1 night with a full DR build on
When will we get pity for nuggies haiz
it might get u enough to boost to 200% crit
my goofy aa can not get over 1000 statue over night dog 💀
ah okie then. low DR?
farm more pop obols if havent got enough of it
around 7 at max
have u tested how fast u would get statues recently? idk how fast that would be with DK
its a lil low but people used to farm beans with that much DR
i guess ill try it again
if u try it make sure that ur orb is maxed
might be better to farm obols / cards if you are under 6x DR
wait, you can get an eldritch arti before getting the anccient?
no
just got the thing for fury relic eldritch, but shows as no ancient bonus
artifact % doesnt even display if unlocked all ancient artifact but no eldritch rift
need ancient before getting eldritch
hmm
bruh
popcat!
is there a droprate guide anywhere
at least you got kitty.. i only got a single hat and it was the ugly shell
only had a single of those so far and the tag, no other cool goodies
Yes, a great vid on youtube by jro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwSlt4CAaS0
shell is kinda drippy tho
wait drop%?
:c
Ehhh
@fast verge u can try that calculator too. dont have to input values but itll help u to see what to equip
i always hated captains hat because it was the same portrait as SB
true.
During the easter thing i only got bunny hats: (old img)
https://i.imgur.com/Ls5qiLA.png
Not at all. Post all you want 
At least i have 7/10 bunny, i should set them up some day... didnt get any of the other easter hats though
this is the card set i use for DK, max crystal odds then as much DR as possible
same
This is better 
https://i.imgur.com/1dBVcO7.png
It's the same, but organized from best to worst 

Nawh it keeps going up
https://i.imgur.com/GPuVtba.png
missin out on DR tho sadge
ill buy those off you for $20 
But xmas coming up soon 😦
Since we know.. xmas event might start anywhere from like... June to next year June.
do iettt
Yeh i gotta eclipse myself
just go candy eclipse it real quick
lol, guess these cards are gonna be easy xD
https://i.imgur.com/Cc6I38p.png
i snapshotted card drop too but its prob not necessary
mhm, can u snapshot if candy?
yeah u enter zone with doubled card drop, then swap cards to ur afk ones, then use candy
as long as u dont change map or gem shop i think it counts
Oh wow it does
https://i.imgur.com/2OkLz9w.png
yee
somehow got less kills, must have messed up soemthing xD
lol
there we go:
https://i.imgur.com/eN9pJKl.png
more kills, more cards, since they dont drop any proper statues anyways
Sorry for spam, but loving these gains xD
https://i.imgur.com/mK5KjHl.png
What is the star talent you can get on shimmer island? What is the upgrade priority for shimmer?
300 shimmer pts expected cost and 200 star talents for roughly 4-5% stats
people generally recommend stats before book
Too expensive cost at this point
yeah book is a bit ouch
Thats what i was thinking. Sunk like 15osh points in jsut to see. Gonna switch base to stats and damage.
is it worth getting the stamp or keep upgrading garbage rate?
Trash to 6, then bribes afaik?
why would you need sample rate stamp for in a hurry
unless you are really hyped in taking royal sampler prayer off DK
didnt know if it gave any really good upgrade worth getting now or just wait
The last three is by preference
bro im getting flamed in general chat cuz i made too much progress in 3 months
Fractal island is currently bugged to act as fishing afk (meaning cant use candies) so its a bit lower in priority than people expected
As of now, fractal island only progresses through irl afk time spent at towns
Ah. Weird. I dont even know what its purpose is.
Whats the generally best way to spend your shimmers guys? I got 30 now and am considering either dumping everything in skill efficiency, or just going for blanket upgrades putting points in whatever is lowest cost.
original intent of fractal island is lava wanted to do something with the 3000-5000 candies that people have, so the island effectively allows users to convert hours (candies) for other permanent buff. Issue is that the island is considered as “fishing” afk task, so its not fulfilling lava’s intent atm
So currently unlocking fractal opens up to an island that you cant do anything with. And we dont know how fast lava is going to fix it
That is actually good to know and makes it the last island on the priority list imo
Also most of the fractal island upgrades are not really useful now (people are done with it). But will be useful again when lava adds more content for sailing/dungeon. So one can say its maybe more incentive to get crystal first (more candies) and use that candy to fuel fractal once its fixed
Btw speaking about crystal island, do they behave just like normal crystals do and choco chip has chance to spawn more of them?
Random island’s value depends on how much garbage drops from random bosses
Not much info, but i assume its just adding one more giants per day
It is? That is good news
Rumour has it Choco chip spawns normal crystals from them
I can use candys on it
The island have sheeps?
Alright, thanks
Thats pretty neat, fractal is still going to be my 4th then
yeah no need to care
multikill only affects the material drop
In fact multikill can harm your farming by spamming too much stuff to fill inventory in a way
Very much this yes! Wtb bigger bags
I cannot let my DK, ES or bubo farm active for longer than a couple of hours without filtering the basic drop
That's.. completely normal
Without crashing the game by ground clutter
well, I think my progress is good because gen chat's consensus is that im cheating 
is there a pop obal farming guide?
but my vman says fishing
Max DR, use ES, farm pop obols active
ok now its making nothing xD
You got doot
So theyre kinda right 
Overall starting with companions will help a lot now
Like imagine being new and getting slugma
wish i got slugma so ican finally get tent to 200
tried to tell them that i rotate my characters for 3D printer procs and they said no you have to be there 24/7 
i got my 3rd popsicle last roll 
cheater 🔨

Sorry snail, but to me it did smell like a brother from the math i did 👀
lot of levels
i mean i got like 14 printer procs today
from vman skill
id say average 3-4 a day
1 from initial daily check
2-4 from checking characters
1 every hour
and then 2-4 from switching characters
30+ clicks a day ez
some days lucky
That was 30 per color
typical day of a doot holder
does drop rate affect cards?
yes, but card chance is still better for cards itself
and one click is basically 2.1 levels
Yes generic dr is applied on top of card drop rate
why cheat when have doot? doot is already effectively a cheats-enabled idleon
No, i mathed out clicks, not bubble upgrades
Already divided everything by 2.1 to make it based on clicks, and not bubble levels.
it was about 250 clicks 7 days
500 lvl per weekk
im assuming multi kill doesnt matter
maybe lava will add the little sibling pet to alleviate PO myriad grind
Multikill does not matter for cards
I got 32 clicks in on a single day
is there a guide for cards then?
we love doot
Thing was, it was per color. so he needs 90+ a day
wfm?
work from home
500 bubble = 250 clicks a week = 36~ a day
-4 from your stated average 3D talent
yeah lol every "click" is actually 4 clicks
So it would take about 10x hourly clicks for a dooter to hit 30 daily clicks
anecdotally i get 1 or 2 procs per hour over 10 character
not unreasonable to click a bubble 25 times in a day with doot
i did get lucky this week with 3D printer procs
Since 10x Alts, 1h afk, 20% chance on each to get a free click.
like today i got 14 procs so thats like +2/day
yup
1x
i mean printer go brr*
id say avg 3-4 day
but sometimes you just click that shit and destroys your average
we mathed that earlier
yeah somedays like 0-1, some days likt 5+
assuming if perfect 1hr claims and 10 omniphaus, that extra avg of 24 avg extra hourly clicks plus 24 default printer procs
It would only take 10x an hourly click to get those 30+ clicks a day
nah I wouldn't go that far
I really only do afk claims 10-12 times a day
even doing 16+ is insane
i guess i check when i wake up before i go to work
time to set up hourly alarms
my hearty diggy is going up fine without atoms now
I recently put Larry on 2hr clicks
and quick slap I can get like 3-4 in a day
it's nice
i need atoms for boron and fluoride still
yea hourly clicks eating into my atom production quite heavily
but feels like they are good levels to have anyway so i dont mind the slow down in boron and fluoride
yea im letting my overflow get me atoms
not too pressed on maxing boron and fluoride
Whats your cooking atom at? fluoride
oof not sure 1 sec
surely u print more than 1050m? there's bound to be overflow there
as a wise man once told me, "eventually you dont need atoms, bubble clicks are forever"
I should really do some hourly clicks xD
yeah i got 500 bubble 1 levels this week which is basically 1k all stat
wonder if it will be possible to hourly click quick slap and bob bubble by w6 or sth
but you wont get as many as me cuz youre not a cheater 
Remember, upgrading boron resets your daily count
yup
but I am atom clicking the slab chopping tool bubble
so I don't have any excess atoms atm
Just spent most my atoms, mine are getting pretty clean slowly:
https://i.imgur.com/UIDloHn.png
i saw trick's message above, and is now considering atoming call me bob over mining bubbles
this game makes me make hard decisions
I'd love to max fluroide tbh
I do have decent overflow but its not really that insane
mining bubbles = bigger prints
Depends how bad you need atoms?
Atoming linear (exponential) growing bubbles are something you do last
and when you plan to sample
Like there is no clear stopping point
true true, maybe more mining first then
i plan to sample after i farm a set of Str magma
i was clicking this for a while but i wanted the atoms more
I'm still clicking that
Get 80-90% effectivity in hardcap bubbles, then sink in atom in the “raise it forever” bubbles
yea im gonna click that to 85% first definitely
worth pushing 95%? seems like a lot of levels for some additional gains
not that much excess being printed
Anyone got a list of all the Hourly bubbles to aim for?
basically anything with logs and ores
Bubbles that uses logs/ores are lower priority in atom as they have alternative ways (hourly clicks) to raise them
beast prints broo
this one is one i want to add to my click list
gold ore and plat ore, i wanna hourly click them but my samples are too low
I can do gold prints soon
Fmj recently was added to the list of hourly clicks due to shimmer trials
is bubo the best character to farm cards?
12 days for skull to tick me over I think?
ES
ES
the invisible list 
yea im also doing fmj clicks
With doot, i still get like 5-6 clicks of fmj a day
honestly sometimes i just sit there staring at my wisdom bubble waiting for number to change
think I'm getting 3-4 on fmj and quick slap
both similar print amounts for me
it's been noticeable going from 0 quick slap to a few a day
my screen rn

Dont judge mine 😄
2nd Monitor has spreadsheets vs movie/series
https://i.imgur.com/6JyS0xp.jpeg
With fractal island, do you have to afk in town for it to count?
is idle skilling worth running active?
it makes my computer's fan turn on when i have it going with everything else 😆
Usually stay on cards or perk page or something. then switch for the afk gain procs
hmm only combat tho right?
everything gets basically double progress when not on that tab
ive been slowly crawling towards the IS achievements and the event is gonna finish by the time i get to tee hee 
this is what I'm hourly/bihourly clicking, main stat, heart diggy, hammer hammer, roadkill, call me ash, larry, fmj, quickslap
Event has a due date?
im not sure tbh, but it says its a "crossover event" so i assume it ends? if it doesnt then its not really an event
Yeh there's no ending date from the wiki or anything. That game was left behind
that'll be this game some day
Still havn't received the 600 gems i purchased but didnt get and it's been a week 👀 (Hear that Lava?)
main way to get hours is to use candy in fractal island
literally scammed
literally scammed
lava accepted the trade and logged off
No no.. he said "Free armor Trimming" still waiting for it, just takes time
bonus stage..
I had to ask cuz a guildy used candy on that island and got fishing afk
did you press Alt F4 like he told you?
seems bugged on mobile or something that for some people its counts as fishing
But for others its working fine
Great, good system
for those who are bugged, the only way is to spend irl afk hours in town
unlock fly mode XD
am i just supposed to move the whales when i want more of a particular spice? (is this the right setup?)
at that point you honestly dont need to use whales
Unless you really really specifically want molten bay spice
when u guys cc wurms, are your poison clouds one ticking the crystals?
ofcourse!
yeah. Along with using jawbreaker and midas
God ranks worth it?
its okay, but at most you gonna get it to 3
Mm I'm at 1 rn
When lava adds more multipliers to make it easy to get like say 20 ranks, it will be a nice bonus
i’m at about 25 ranks, assuming none of them failed
If i win the 50% chance offering that i have now, i might be able to get it to rank 4 within 2023
imo, either have doot or don't worry about it
Its not even possible to get the divinity pts for 1% chance of god rank 25
Divinity with or without doot is good
25 ranks is just bs unless you mistaken for something else
without doot its just a waste. that would mean you need to bring them out of lab to do div
u’r right, im still at 0 😦
Even with doot you're better off having the characters do something than farm god ranks
To get the offering pts for 1% of 24 > 25 will take like roughly 5 million years with the current available multipliers
yeye but without its even more stupid, waay more
with doot they're both in div and the lab and doing something else, aren't they?
no, for div u need to stay in lab or altar
imagine how much stringer doot will be with the new gods
No because they aren't actually present in the lab to proc goat
ooh
like doot is still getting buffed
too bad
What does goat do
looking forward to the release of the last two gods
excited to see what they bring
Give me more cooking speed
multikill on w2 mobs
I just seen what the goat does ... I missed out on so much lab xp
We still get the divinity though ?
If it's at lab counts as being in alter from the goat
Dang thanks I gotta move my shrines
If doot doesn't matter what God I linked to right ?
It's irrelevant anyways since all are active all the time
purpmep you need to link to one char
don't know if today is a lucky day or unlucky day :<
got chemical 5th mutation but my snail drop from lv9 -> lv5
wtf lv l522
no no the 1032 orb
damn hw many keys per hr
70-80 atm
o.o i wonder if somoene actually farmed 10 capes
i have 6/10
how many keys did it took ?
im over 100k now
the future is bleak and dark
That's a lot of wurm farming
ive had at least 6 chars at wurms since the update
and until recently my DK active there
jawbreaker sabotaging my CC gains at wurms
is there anyway to make the cardchance better?
feel like im using all the buffs i have
taking it off is a whole new world
w4 in general is notoriously bad for cards
for me personally i chose to 4* and 5* cardify demon genie
i need the crystal cards
Enter zone with card drop rate card set (snapshot mechanic). Then change to full dr card set
my raw dr is too low so using chips is actully better 
still no 5* cards since the drop rate sux
well no reason to run around kill in card drop rate cards
Card drop rate is fixed upon entering zone
While generic drop rate can be changed mid combat
because your base dr sucks, its even important to do this
only reason the moustache is there in the 2nd pic is because there isnt another DR card
sucky dr means using dr cards have much greater impact in relative
try doing that snapshot then use one 1 hr candy and see how much you get. then u can check how long it would take
tho i guess its different if u active on ES
Hello guys, noob question, I just unlocked the "no more praying" superbits. Is it worth to use it ? Sadly I did not invest a lot in my prayer as of yet. Thanks
its one of the best cards to cardify besides the boss cards
no prayer is not worth taking off royal sampler
With the new sample rate stamps from trash island, DK can get 90% sample rate without royal sampler prayer. But even then not much point to apply the biggest curse of “1/5 effect”
yeah problem is chips get me to 6x and with snap shot im at 5.99 
i suppose
Original question of “what can i do” is “nothing” unless you are willing to actually put that card farming down for now and raise dr
if u get 1 shiny of one of those u can get +1% DR
Thanks a lot bro.
i dont have shiny unlocked yet 😔
ah dang thats right mb
Normally having a full dr cards would get you above the chip’s 5x line, but since it doesnt, it means you probably behind on farming dr cards as well
i suppose yeah
didnt have the time to get to that yet
there is so much to do every day
monster decimator works active or afk?
127 liquid per click o.o
yeah this ones worse
doing my 50 atom clicks costs 8,850 water
bubo never losing relevancy
yep
gets more important if anything
save em for w6
everything else should already be lvl 50, if not u prob dont need pearls for that
Fell asleep during arena try and woke up to wave 224 lol
Ya were talking about orb earlier what's the max you should level it ?
you either go talent lvl-267 or talent ~304+ if you can get that high if you have PO mana box maxed
if you have 0 points into the mana box, u can level it up to 300 exactly and its generally a bit better
Sweeettt in ss thanks
if u have mana box dont go anywhere between 267 and 300, as its worse
280 with mana box is like the worst possible combination
after some carding






