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Other 9 guys can do the quest, but thats just for kapow statue reward
Its basically a 10 times only exchange of 20k power for 10k kapow if that makes sense
so if i wanted to do quest on all 10, i need 200k total right, not for onyx statue, but for actual quest
id trade 200k power for 100k kapow
in total
Yea
actual drops as in farm on that char
Yeah
yeah im skipping that quest on non-respawners 😂 i aint got time for that
The reward of 10k kapow requires that the character witness 100k statue drops
Easy for spawners especially dk
But sucks for bb and bm
Id say like 3-4 people doing the quest is good enough
2 to onyx it, and 10k spent in kapow is more than enough as you dont really need crit damage anyway
i care more about the quest count for the talent with bonus eff its quite nice for sample size
and the bonus luk is nice too since i generally put spare star talents into that
Its additive withe other sources of efficiency %, but its still nice
Gives around 10-20% eff
anything helps tbh theres not many star talents for skilling to spend on
I need to reset star talents on everyone to spend less on postage
more like poopy pete
w5 anivll lets goo
someone with character names beginning for P and S to complete Catterpod quest?
bc nobody answer in channel to do this kind of things
i have S
i only have S
it's enough
and B M W
are you playing rn?
ye am
which world
coming
okay
no problem
now i'll have to find someone with P
Is it better to push w5 with dk or es?
i need to do that quest also...
im using es it works good i guess..?
help i just afked for 75 days and now it doesn't launching
i want to play as my main character and it just shows black screen
Hmm, ok not sure which bubbles to focus :D
bubbles in alchemy
?
same here i guess there are some guides on yt
in a bit of a slump atm, damage has slowed down a lot
i feel you 
Is Kitsune Roxie any good?
i am currently at level 108 and i'd like to get to 125 however it takes so freaking long, how do i cancel the battle and if i do will it count last level reached ?
You can just close the menu or open codex or something to quit
And cleared waves saves in real time so no need to die
ahh perfect thank you
so monolith and the bone guy let u push that far at what power of bets?
Mono makes fight more safe, but yeah makes it take waaaay longer
pets*
I always suggest waiting till IE updates
It saves fast enough and havent heard any complaints of “why my exit didnt register!?!?”
bone is 17.4k, mono is 14.4k, refiller is 17.2k, shield is 18.5k and other refiller died super early cause i was lazy to do the shield manually. So far it took my like 4h to reach 108
I've heard someone complain about it Topbird
smart idea
wasting 15-20 seconds checking, versus 2 hours
Also comes from who is too lazy to use IE
easy fix
hey uh is the 10k statue thing bugged
cause im not picking anything up and its going up
I have heard a complaint of them being on wave 200 and saying it only counted as 199. And we pointed out you didnt “clear” wave 200
so is the onyx statues as good as it seems?
literally double.... 😄
okay thats wayy higher than the max of 10k i ever got..
got some DK farming to do lol, just started
and trivial to complete for all but 1?
oh its a 100k statues
Common oversight is people no notice they got onyx chisel, and didnt drop that on statue man first
do we need 100k statues`?
has anyone checked to see if you can drop and pick up statues for progress?
Should be pretty easy for all. 10k kachow is a quest reward
dont work
you don't need much power, the suggested is 10k shield blocks everythign
and then those people lose their chisel and regret it 
oh sweet!
10k manual?
20k power statues (consumed), 17 different types of statues in inventory (just to show), and 100k statues drop witnessed on that character
i just wanna auto it
100k is fine on auto active
good thing i got these
wait what
Yes, this is written in guide i follow the excel one Use Monolithic when Refiller is ready. When Monolithic has 2-1 seconds left, click on Refiller. Both skills should refill instantly.
Use Bones whenever it's off cooldown.
That's like half a night of waiting
real gamers play manual
I think there are like 2 convos going on
Please dont tell me you click farmed for 100k
wish i saved those, farming them gonna take some time
right the guide ill use it then
yep, lol
not yet, im at 5k and it goes up on its own
got about 5k of each rn from like ~6 hrs of farming
dk on auto gets that done in an hour or so
best place to farm power status is beans?
DK on beans for power
For any not good active farmer you can candy the 100k statues. Mining gives a good amount
ES is worth mentioning for those mob dropped statues
W3 skill statues and bullseye at w1 tree
ok yes, auto loot works for 100k
so there are a few statues that DK doesn't drop then, outside of kachow
fair enough
I just vman candied the w3 skill statues and bullseye
Lol I got this
What makes DK best at statue farming? Is it the respawn or orb or something else?
yeah we saw when u posted that a few hrs ago
so if 1 person does the onyx quest, is the 100k available to everyone now or they gotta do it agn?
orb affects crystals
orb applies to crystals while ES portal bonus doesnt apply to crystals
I see
hmmmm my power farming seems crap
So if dk can get like say 800 peak orb kills, its basically doing 4x more crystal kills on average
oh i gotta do onyx line from the start again
20k power to get onyx feature. 200k power if you want 100k kapow statues as a quest reward
220k if that+onyx
ahh ok
The first 20k is onyx (and eventually 10k kapow)
I'm guessing the beta testers knew this and saved the statues and are already done ^^
damn
2nd - 10th 20k power is just for kapow reward as redundant onyx unlock does nothing
Also remember not to turn in any statues until you finish unlocking all onyx statues
I had to do it twice cause I lost my onyx tools 😄
Skill exp 10k is like whatever, but ill take it
oh, why is that?
The 10% additional statues is per onyx
ahhhhhh
Anyone calculated if oceanman is feasible yet?
Its one of the easy ones with a bit of candy
The only really annoying ones are W3 skill statues
i guess im pumping my vman with dr before candy?
what's annoying about the w3 skill ones?
that's a surprise, I'd have thought the ocean statues would suck haha
Afk%, DR, and catching speed
They dont drop from crystals
Since you only get limited amount of kapow:
- Dont turn in excess kapow until you onyx all 25 statues.
- Turn in kapow in small batches. Statues that level up multiple levels at once only applies startue exp bubble bonus once.
they drop from mobs
Its and ES farm
And apparently we're looking at like 12+ hours per statue even on a pretty good ES
DK orb works on mobs too, but ES portal effect is better
So I will definitely be candying that
guessing its something like 200 statues /hr on es
A good end game ES will probably get around 1500 per hour
I candied w3 statues on vman with 21x dr. Roughly like 100-200 hrs on each
that does not sound fun
Yeah definitely candy for me then
Its better than spending next 2 weeks of active farming
I'll gladly use that much candy to avoid wasting DK farming time on ES
How are you getting 21x dr? Alchemy?
When you can use candy, always don’t miss that opportunity
i shall do the others before that, i need to save up some candies
You will be getting more candies than you can use anyway
it seems its time to sechdule my lil bro to help me candy
Too bad little bro has hard time figuring out where to click the afk claim when the number of items varies
Also teach him to claim smith items once in a while 
Should I avoid upgrading bubble upgr cost in cauldron to get to atom faster through nblb?
very debateable topic, but usually lower cost helps greatly until you start worrying about atoming them
So overall i will upgrade them
The era when you are not even close to atoming them is the most impactful era imo
Getting 10 levels of 10 > 20 is much more important than say 200 > 210 of bubble levels
most bubbles usually give most at earlier lvls, cause some bubbles hard cap
how much DK orb score do ppl get on average at beans? assuming if level maxed at orb duration breakpoint before the CD-duration overlap, and auto play
I'm curious to see who has this 'done' already and the likelhood of insider info
The only people done with it are people who candied it
ES isnt fast enough to have finished them yet
that's fair if they candied it after the fact
but I'm sugesting some people knew what to do and did it already
can anyone help me with doot and get a bowman?
as you don't need to farm them actively, just have 20k of each
party finder chat
no active people there.. i see
i wish i can but im on dk now
hm can u swap for a second?
gimme a min
Some people would have known ahead of time for. At the very least any of the people in the beta test
aye
Although even then the beta was only out a couple days before the update
thanks im in key 4 on town map
And a good endgame ES will probably be about 12 hours per statue
So even with a heads up its possible some of them arent done yet lol
My bubbles are at this point, so what's your take here?
Alot of your nblb is getting wasted on easy bubbles
exactly my thoughts
this one
should ALWAYS be NBLB
until 100m
if nothing else, do that 100% of the time
It'll effectively mean NBLB is always pushing the 'right' sets of bubbles
is there a way to afk farm power statues?
whats the most omptimal way to level up vmans fishing cuz im only getting 157k xp rn
Johs -- DK
What orb level is it that non-mana dk can use?
Look at the bot commands fishing guide
Seasalt island
no autoloot
fishing is slow until seasalt island
Johs -- cry deeply
im on map
where on it there where doot spawn?
if you could stump up 5 quid for auto loot, it's the one thing you 'need' to be active in the game
w2 sand giant map
okay im there
drop doojat eye on the stone like thing
Thanks, I'll go farm some cakes and straws to get atleast those out of the way
anyone else stuck in quest with 16/17 Unique Statues in inv? I have all of them except fish statue but its still 16/17
w5?
you gotta tp back to the guy to refrsh quest progress
oooh ok thanks ^^
what makes worship gives more soul?
worship/skill efficiency and drop rate?
thanks
Dont forget the boost food
this one right?
I still have doubts in which cardset use
There's a recommended card setup in #1084911530417606656 . At least a good starting point
267
and this?
267 to not overlap, or 310 to get enough duration to a point it offsets the loss from overlap
1 is enough for that
Like crit damage is whatever
btw a tip for dk's farming beans at the moment; make sure you level 400 the magician starterpack box in post office. I just noticed I didnt do that on my DK yet and the lower CD on orb seems speed things up quite a lot
best setup to farming?
Thats similar to mine although DK skill order doesnt really matter much
Bubo is the only class its important on
That happens to me every now and then too although the number varies
Mine is usually 9
No idea why it happens or what it means
It's usually bugged minigame number or from arcade somewhere. Idk how it works exactly tho
Out of curiosity how does it offset it? Thought it just auto cast when the cd is up
QUestion for those that use automation arm to refill food. Can i do the 2 food trick with it yet? like place 1 very strong food and ahalf decent food, will only the half decent food get consumed ?
whats the best w2 and w3 spot for statues?
mybe sandypot for w2? as the shards are usefull aswell?
in w2 sand castles should be the best for statues ig
tyty
Actually I think the snelbies are better for W2
No snelbies were never the best
When DK came out people said flat maps were ideal so everyone just assumed snelbies was good and passed that info around
Then when actual testing was done it showed that tysons was the best statue map followed by sand pots
But by then it was too late. The masses were believing the snelbie lie
tyson is effectively flat to DK because of shockwave hitbox
sandpots it is then, best get that glass shards aswell
Yeah tysons is only a little bit better anyway so its only a small loss in statues to get glass shards
Definitely worth it
like it can hit all lanes in w3 popsicle mob if the statue is placed on middle platform for example
Also anyone that says sand castles is playing the game without the W5 update lol
Sand castles was the map you used maestro or bubo on when farming statues back before DK existed
With DK existing sand castles doesnt even come close any more
why cant i do this trade?
it maybe wants like 615.4 but lava rounds it down
thas so cringe
Do I need to stay longer at beans for the health statue or is there a better place?
so in the tysons map, shockwave dosent really hit map wide, is it still the best?
What do you mean? The shockwave ignores the elevation change
ig might require vman DK statue enhancement
good that onyx statues count for whole account....would be terrible to gather for each char^^
The platforms are close enough in height to where it doesnt matter
if for statue to last long enough for 2 side
BEANS
it dissappers after some distance horizontally
lol figured
I think I will move to boas to level my vial though
2 birds with 1 stone
Well yeah but what ends up happening more often than not is you drop a statue and then it kills everything near it so your DK runs to the other side of the map to kill the stuff not near it and then you're good
Just go to beans
Plus vman enhancement can allow you to have nearly 100% uptime on 2 statues at once
Although personally I would just do sand pots
Its only a little bit worse than tysons for statues but you also get glass shards
Definitely a worthwhile trade off imo
You can just got to snails and double up on farming dice
vman DK statue adds 20s which should help very well on very long maps, or to keep 100% coverage on 2 platform map ig
Snelbies is 1 level and far simpler
Yeah but its also just less statues per hour
Well why not 
lootfilter ftw^^
The idea that snelbies is a good map was based on an assumption when DK was released and people spread that info around as if it was a fact
That shouldn't be an issue with enough crystal chance
Then after DK was out for a bit and people tested the different maps it showed that snelbies just simply wasnt good
And crystal chance doesnt matter
Every map gets better with more crystal chance
Not just snelbies
snelbies have relatively low mob count, tysons have more altho map is horizontally longer
snelbies might be ok if low on movespeed
Hey to each his own then. I love snelbies for DK statue farming. Ramps up nice and fast.
Its literally just less statues per hour than sand pots though lol
Plus you also get glass shards from pots
The glass shards would be the optimal reason. Aside from that I wouldn't.
Pots is more worth it but do they have gold luck obol?
True. Nevermind
more like every w2 map
Just saying in regards to comparing pots and snelbies
including exiled mimic if someone wants to DK mongerang farm that
is it just me or is wiki slow af atm? trying to get to monster site per world map
how many days did you guys go all characters divinity when you started out w5?
long long long
At least till I got good ol eye of the tiger
when most started with w5 we didnt had much chance to increase div gain
is this the next tier tool? I check the tutorial to see the difference lava mentioned in patch notes
is there a chart somewhere that shows sources of div gain and div exp? i cant seem to find it sorry
Oooooh
That looks nice
2 week for all but constantly swapping in cycles, 1.5 month for bubo stuck in lab to push all to mantra then the fjnal push
or if for bear god... maybe a day or 2
Nice dragon quest reference lol
its also just a tree from mythology
Also makes a cameo in Hyperion
its the worldtree
the tree in w1 is yggdrasil
lore moment?
would be cool if he let us chop it down with that lol
and shuts down server after it
since in mythology the world dies when the tree dies
hello all
where does dooters place shrines?
didn't quite reach 20k statues overnight at flags for cauldron, thicc skin, and exp book. i will after today, but was hoping i wouldn't have to afk here today haha
overall w4 still gets the most afk traffic for shrines
how come? lab ?
is there even a reason to sit in lab for dooters?
w1 gets one guy at gmush, w4 gets 1 cook as a permanent afk. And lab will still have some guys there when working of divinity
dont even remember where i placed my shrines^^
In the future i can see people doing god ranks when lava adds few more divinity multipliers
do you keep working at div after every char hits lvl 100?
but dooters can work on lab AND on div at same time
God rank sucks because with the current available multipliers, but lava can still add more when he decides to add effecr for the last 2 gods. Meanwhile w5 gets almost no afk traffic
anyone has the link to TD +120 ?
There is no real permanent afk content in w3, and w2 is like “maybe fractal, but it doesnt have to be there”
So at the end, w4 still gets most traffic. Maybe even at w6 is out depending if w6 has any content to act as a hub
wouldnt gmush farm be better tho?
you have one at w1 gmush vs 1 cook + lab guys at w4
w5 has no long term afk reason after finishing all skills
wouldnt atleast 2 guys at gmush be good?
any case im not wasting half of year worth of progress to a similar trafic
unless you can see not moving the shrine for next two years in thar new place, its bot worth resetting progress
Another reason why i would stay at w4 is that the game is taking ransom of the current shrine progress
The cost if transfer is too big for a marginal gain if any
do people with doot really stay in lab 😮
If w1 got a nee content that requires like minimal 4 guys to stay long term, then i might consider
not now, but as i said there is a possibility lava may add more multipliers for divinity
When so, getting few more god ranks are good damage buffs
true
3-4 god ranks are meh, but say 20 god ranks and that ES talent looks real juicy
i put sometimes some in lab...when i dont feel they might contribute to anything atm^^
yea same sincce doot i got like second DK in lab but thats about it ahah
some are just plain bad at making money
only if god rank point requirement scaling isnt that steep
How much dmg is recommended for betting w5 boss?
see you in 20 years for that rank 20 god rank lmao
Someone?
Lv20 salt ranks used to be considered to take like 20 years, but look at it now
Its all about new multipliers
depends on class and what diff
Cooking lv60 meal was like “not in this life time” but now we get them easily
Thank you Vman lol
Is there a solution to my loot pile only holding 29 chests even tho i have all the upgrades? :S
Is bubonic good fot that
If you can kill the moles outside, normal boss should be easy
And how much dmg should o have
moles are 15b so enough to 1 shot moles
Oky
err, prob less
Thk
wa
wiki is taking a while to load but bubo is fine since you just clear the whole platform, you can take as long as you need as long as you're killing the moles
i was today years old when i figured out how to use BMs ballista 😐
Ok tanks for help
is the shit game any less shit lately ?
oof, 22hours of active at beans and only 1500 power statues, going to be a long two weeks.
if you farm statues that slowly its not worth farming them I think
since getting onyx statues doesnt do anything unless you can get 20k of a statue type
I saw someone say that the new world 4 completionist quest is bugged on vman, has anyone completed it on vman successfully?
doubling statues? why not lol
Well yeah doubling statues is nice but it sounds like you dont even have many statues to double if it takes a full day for 1500 power statues
1 in 38 crystal chance, about a 12x drop rate, last night I got over 100k statues farming beans
and you only double them after farming 20k of that statue right?
Yeah
I seem to be farming power statues much slower than the rest of the carrot drops. I have 4k of the rest for some reason
Do you have Chocy chip?
I am at beans, but it's for the crystal carrot
I'm missing the chip, I know that's my problem
Oof
man he really should've put chocy chip in rotation before this patch, its such a big increase
That’s gonna be a long grind with out chocy chip, might be worth waiting
He doesnt even set the rotation
I've been waiting for chip for months
Yeah I guess thats true
Wish we could trade those, I have a bunch and it’s really only useful to have 1
gotta wait until december
could farm gems and gamble a choc chip
or 🐳
It seems like all of my players have this movement cap at 17%, is there a way to get past that?
175%*
17 or 170?
have more ms without using chip
Use potions
There are sources of move speed that only work up to 175%. once you reach that point you cant scale movespeed any more until you get enough to pass 175% without those conditional sources
about to do 100k quest on second dk, how long should it take?
An hour or so
then 1 mill orb quest?
depends on if you got choco chip or not
but second dk is kinda.... you know.... challenged
Don't ignore your chars 
You can candy the 100k statues at dreadlo ore pretty easily
It gives a ton of chopping statues
it does?
Guys is it stupid to autofarm with just one character or should I get all of my characters to farm cards?
yeah movement speed is cracked now
need to do the quest twice so you can onyx those statues 😄
do the quest on all characters for big skillxp gains
And crit damage
crit damage only good for higher rifts which aren't released so not really needed.
Yeah but skill exp statues are easy to farm so 100k is nothing
already 1shot most mobs
crit dmg helps on shimmering island too
gotta farm the 200k power statues first 😦
about 5 nights afk for me
why?
Do you need to farm the 20k on each character or can you do it on DK and just trade them over?
If it can all be done on DK then 200k wont be too bad
ok...i know now...didnt see the statues i got from quest^^
i wonder if each char need to get the 100k as drops...or getting from warehouse after getting q is enough
The 100k need to be dropped on that character
i just saw
my poor vman^^
dradlo drops okish but its only 1 kind of statue
but at least it gives skill exp too
who is best to farm those statues ?
true true, it's funny to my about that is i was at rank 18 a long time ago reading that on the wiki and was like.. huh i guess it will get a lot harder soon?
i always forget. my boat speed needs to be the same (or higher) as the travel distance to get the minimum time on an island?
if farming statues, what do you do with beans loot? filter it?
I mean bean slices
In 20min farm I get full inventory
i filter bean loot and obols
WHYYYYY why did he put the monolith star talent on page 4??? there are so many empty spaces 
ok, it is not a crazy idea, ty
and usual crystal loot
sorry does anyone have the monolith quest line requirements
i think sb benefits the most from onyx statues
20k power statues and then collect 100k statues
100k statues of any or specifically one type?
any
ok cool
why twice?
You mean 20k of every type?
does anyone know what a good pace of getting statues is, ive got this much in about 9 hours
at beans
to get enough skill exp and kachow statues to get them onyx
is alt the second elite class?
each quest gives 10k kapow and skill exp statues so you need to do it twice to get them onyx
oh icic.
seems you dont have choco chip@willow sorrel
what does this mean? my peabrain cant comprehend
You will only be able to unlock the onyx statues on the alt that completed the quest.
without it its way harder to get good amount of statues
yep, otherwise it will take quite a while to do it otherwise haha
this is with choco
like actually forever
you got genie and poop card?
it will take me a long time either way. i only have one DK and i don't want to make my second barb a squire to get to DK because of reasons
then you need to work on the cards themselves
i really hope royal wurm quest is per account...
you're missing 155% potentially
i dont have the top left doubler unfortunately
only bottom right
so im doubling poop rn cos its higher
with 5 stared genie and poop
You have pretty low dr, that would be why statue gain is low
i might 5 star mine...with all the free gems atm should be easy
would most DR gains come from
obols?
like pop and dice obols?
i dont rly understand
how people up that shit
ive got all the DR cards on
and the card set as well
like doot card, crystal carrot, w5 thermo smth
dont want to promote p2w...but current gem pack has perm dr bonus
ya but even before that people were getting liek 13 DR without the 1.2x bonus
u can do it with anyother class no problem just need choco chips... 1dk to farm the power statues, the shiite classes can farm the 100k statues in 1 night probably each
Does W5 merit shop +talent purchase also add talents to vman?
thinking es? or bubo for the 100k? then at beans, flags or bloodbones
imagine i dont have choco chip, wtf do i do then
do i just buy console chips until i roll the 1/22??
its a 4x slower grind
you can farm the power statues and switch them over to the other guy
its honestly just impossible, i farmed with my dk for 4 hours and got 90 statues lmao
Pretty much yeah
whats your DR?
Like it sucks but choco is mandatory
8x
Hopefully you get it quick though and maybe even get a few doublers along the way
took me about 12 hours for 40k statues at 12x with choco
Choco chip is a mast
i'm slow to the party, but soon
🙏
40k of specific satues, or in total?
Sorry, gonna ask again: Does W5 merit shop +talent purchase also add talents to vman?
and i'll have this soon as well
i got fucked
Noice
The chip rolls do that to us all 
oh i also just got my 20th yesterday
Where dio i see the rotation
Next choco is in december
Someone told me itd be back in rotation by december
I gat mine at the second roll...
listen buddy, thats just fuckin insane right
i cant just wait until december to do this quest
Thats why the gemshop is unfortunately a must do
time to throw some money at the game
Not even just for that quest but just for active farming in general
yeah i figured
U meant doot
I would rather have choco chip than doot
That's a very bold statement
Inded
Its a correct statement though
does this mean that my char has to do 5k damage during that run?
Doot gives gains and QOL
choco opens a new path. Active crystal farm
Like doot is a silly bonus I agree completely but choco chip literally defines active play
god damn, i shouldve just bought it when i had the chance
Its the single strongest bonus in the game hands down
Choco is used for
Leveling
Statue farm
Obol farm
Item farm (leaves, pancakes, etc)
tbf if you started today you'd have the quest done well before december. you could also be a gambler degenerate like i was when w4 came out, i no longer have any need for rolling for luck or waiting. it isn't necessary, but entirely up to you
Money farm
It just counts individual hits, including those from towers. Drop a lot of kraken and you complete it very fast
im farming hard
got 100 statues now
oh i thought it was 'person' as in your character not the towers. weird interaction
@flat forge what do you need? the 100k Statues or the 20k power statues?
Not sure if it's supposed to be or not tbh, but how it is currently.
the 20k power statues :(
5k char hits would be a nightmare tbh lol
who are you using? DK or ES? without choco i really don't know who would be best, possibly even vman since he will naturally have a high crystal chance
DK now, as everyone told me to do so
My vman is weak as fuck, barely even passes the 100m damage
imo DK will do it well too, but without choco imo vman/mman might be better. he was the original statue farmer
Maybe use DK at snakes for the bag rolls with power statues
you don't need dmg to farm for statues
and leave other characters afk at snakes as well
Fair
sorry not snakes, carrots
No beans?
Not having choco wouldnt change the best map for DK
I can throw everyone at carrots ig
It would still be beans just a lot slower
beans is for active DK farming for crystals
But if he is not farming the statues from crystals he could get the drops from Carrot bags
The only thing worth considering is maybe vman could be a little better although I still dont think he would
You still are farming your statues from crystals though just a lot slower
well considering he was the OG statue farmer i would assume so. DK really shines of course, but he excels with choco, without it vman will have a much higher crystal chance
Even without choco chip crystals will still account for more total statues than normal mobs
Unless your crystal chance is absolutely horrid
what is considered horrid?
Honestly I'm not even sure how bad you would need to have your crystal chance be to make normal mobs drop more statues than crystals
But we're talking not using cards at all or even putting points in PO box bad
i know i am in a way different space than he is, and you are probably around where i am i believe contract for the most part. but like right now set up the same way my DK has a 1 in 32 crystal chance, and my vman gets to 1 in 12. without choco i would just assume vman would farm them easier like he used to before elite classes were a thing
He might but its hard to say because a crystal is also more valuable on DK
Nah DK is still better
It would honestly probably come down to talents more than anything
If he doesnt have good enough talents to get good orbs than probably vman
The amount of crystals DK spawns is so much faster than Vman
true, i'm just assuming the rare bag talent from jman and the sheer amount of crystals he will farm being higher might make up for no orb from DK
But if talents are good then DK should still be better because orb is just that OP
this is my chance on vman

they aren't set up the same way atm though
thanks
does he have any card doublers?
Np
because that isn't a fair comparison otherwise
like right now my vman is in skilling build
Even without doublers you can get well below 1 in 115
Thats a case of not even having the cards leveled
i can? :D
I think I was around 1 in 50 or so before I had any doublers and that was also before 5* cards
his crystal chance is 1 in 267. awful. but if i set him up like my dk is set up then he has a 1 in 12 vs my DK's 1 in 32. I have choco though so i'm not talking about myself farming on vman, i use DK like a sane individual. you don't have choco yet though, so just trying to figure out who will farm your 20k power statues faster
The sources are as follow:
The star talent
Shrine
PO box
Poop and genie card
Maybe there was some other source I missed
But those are the main ones I think
vman has additional crystal chance in talents too
Of course Vman talent but not on dk
but yes those are the main one
got it down to this
My Genie card is only 2*
much better than 1 in 115
you probably would do well farming some more genie and poop cards
poop is easier, what rank is that card?
my poop is already 4*
Definitely fix that. Getting that to at least 4* should be your only focus until its done
Crystal spawn is the best stat in the game
whats the best lad for farming cards
Maxing it is priority 1
Fair.
ES best for Cards right?
whats the lowest a dk can get? mine is 1 in 32 atm
ES actively
gotcha
1 in 26
then what am i missing?
and technically lower, just involes huge afk time on crystal shrine lol
Close to 25 though. The game uses the percentage and IE rounds them down. I think you can get 3.9% spawn chance which is just shy of the 4% needed for 1 in 25
crystal shrine most likely
Its always shrine and stamp
talent maxed, 5 starred poop and genie and doubled them
Those are the only bonuses not hard capped
How many quests does the royal worm have?
Never had card doublers so only Chip for me.
for the divine trophy, do i need to drop cape after i get the quest?
where do i get card doubler?
My 1 in 26 is 3.74% and thats with 250 crystallin and 20 shrine. At 21 I'll be at 3.9%
Gaming 
22 shrine would hit the 1 in 25 on IE but thats also gonna take a very long time to do lol
250 crystallin?
Yeah
Huh?
The stamp for crystal spawn
need more gilded
to get "one of the divine" trophy do i need to drop cape with the quest active? or can i drop it before i get the quest?
You need the quest, then get 1 as a drop
Hey guys I just unlocked the 9th slot I understand the best dupe classes are DK, SB, ES.
I have another DK on the 8th. Which is more important for the 9th SB or ES or something else.
I got lucky and pulled a doot so I dunno if that affects the choice. I'm still w3 so I don't really understand the classes yet which is why I ask
finally got a new artifact bruh
ES loses value if you have Doot
Man these div statues in W5 are slow af
Whats the "immediately do that when u reach w5" stuff?
yeh that's where you beat me is the stamp. i stopped making bricks focusing on string vial atm
Sailing, div
my stamp is only lvl 150, shrine is at 19 as well i think
acutally shrine is 17, so i'm giga behind you. need people in w4 lab again to grind that up
good news for me though is since focusing on building shrines i've super leveled that one so it will level up faster now
No doot for me so my consolation prize is I get to beat everyone at shrines
yeh doot gives me stupid bonuses for sure
i might start working on mono quest on my bubo so i can get liquid at the same time so i can go back to hourly clicking certain bubbles and doing my daily atom clicks. running out of liquid too much while being active on my DK
i know this is
but i need to sit down and grind these out to work on more myriad. that's at least 10k boxes
Nah just let atom do it, should be done in a few years
I've decided I'm just saving pens for a greenstack
It's a little slow but I'll get there one day 
Dang wtf. I just got so lucky. Did a 1% to try to get a 50 or 100% and got the Rabbit
Can "Crystals 4 days" star talent go above 100?
is it dumb to put all characters in divinity once u reach w5?
Did completing this on another char and using the tool fix this issue for you?
I'd say that you should get the second god as fast as possible
once i have the second one, connect all lab chars to him no?
Yup. Then you can do other stuff with the rest of them
I personally dont have anyone in divinity rn, everybody is in lab and gather exp from there
we close
Best w2 map for the statue farm? Sand castles?
is it normal to only get 1xp per hour when u start divinity for the first time?
But it took me about 2/3weeks to get to that point so nothing too quick
btw also, still have the +skill eff -skill xp prayer running, should i deactivate it, when having the chars in divinity?
Snelbies with DK
Doesnt affect div gains
oke ty
Div ignores normal skill exp modifiers
man i feel like im doing sth wrong, im too lazy to push my other chars and now i only have 1 elite while being in w5
Best farm strat for power statues?
Yeah definitely fix that, that is objectively wrong lol
Dk Beans w1
ok, thanks
It's good to unlock w5, but you'd better unlock all the elite classes 🥲
Spend your time candy and get everyone elites
Forgot snelbies was a single platform, though I thought people liked castles to farm even before the statue nonsense?
Yeah with Mman, that was before DK in my experience
I’m thinking too far back probably
Pots are better than snelbies
Very slight reduction in statues but the glass shards for stamps more than makes up for it
guys anything i should think about before depositing for onyx?
any quests or anything?
ive got the chisel ofc
200k power statues
I just tested out orb peak kills, sandy pot is like 480, snelbies are like 470. Sand castles like 510 and tysons being 530
So no reason to do snelbies for crystals compared sandy pots, and for pure statues might as well do tysons or sand castles
is the monolith star talent supposed to go in slot 1 of tab 1? I seem to have used the book but unlocked nothing
top peak or average peak orb score?
oh wait, it started its own new tab, odd
https://i.gyazo.com/811d8539a6001e1e97596584567fec0d.png
can this be unlocked somewhere I've somehow missed or is it just a weird lava thing that its empty
yeah 🙂
been saying this for months lol, no one listens. Gl 😛
I always recommend sandy cause glass shards lol
Average hourly rates at W2 maps. The exact numbers will be different now as crystal chance and DR have increased a lot but the premise will be the same. Snelbies was never a good map 
The idea that snelbies is good came from DK launch when people said he prefers flat maps so people assumed snelbies was good and spread that info around without any testing
Once the testing was done it proved that snelbies isnt that good
Single platform is good for dk, but thats not the only factor
But by then the damage was done. Everyone had spread the misinformation
not released yet
Sandy pot may seem less populated, but what makes it good is that its a real real good map for boomerang
And although tyson is not a pure single platform map, its essentially 1.2 lanes and shockwaves hits them all anyway
if lava can make a setting toggle to disable movement while in auto, there might be new meta maps with boomerang abuse
Beans and sand pots would still be the best in their respective worlds for sure
Stilt moles are super super super good if you can stand in one place to boomerang
Maybe something like quenchies in W3 would become good though with precise boomerang positioning
penguin is similar, though it cant quite hit the far right/left mobs from either position
Now in w3 , best map is blood boons \ ram ?
penguin too spread out, unless if statue can cover blind spots then boomerang clears the rest
exp wise its ram (but w4 exists), or if you mean DK grinding, blood bones
It can hit most of the platforms from anywhere its placed, so dk can do alright there
Dk , tnx
Pretty sure just blood bones in W3. Rams is too wide
For xp we have w5
ah
Although I dont have any fun spread sheets to back that one up so I could be wrong
It feels like rams should be better - more mob density. Same reason you'd take tysons over snelbies no?
Everyone says bloodbones tho and I'm too lazy to test
contract, my lord, what level can i put orb too, if i reset his po
I think it was 300 with no PO box
I havent tested since the +20 second timer was added, but it would still require auto to place semi-optimally to clear the entire platform. Might be ok though
whatre the best expedition islands to be grabbing first?
Although my max is 294 so I have like 130 in the box
Rams has the same issue as snelbie as being bit too wide
rams too wide unless if auto can consistently place 2 statues in proper spots ig
ahh
trash first to build up daily trash and further unlocks
Bloodbone is like the dream come true layout for DK and just the right population to match the penetration of Shockwave
https://i.gyazo.com/90af23a0149f89eb42229f83f15ab9ad.png
another one down 
The route i went, Was Trash/Shimmer. But now im stuck on the 3rd islands choice. Dont know whether to unlock the legendary fish or not. Or wait for the "time cfandy island"?
only if it has mob density of oj, iirc oj bay can have 27 mobs at any given time
tho how much are there in tremor wurms?
Whats the big thing to get for class xp? currently trying to get my characters to 150 lvl
imo seasalt could be nice for 3rd to push early mastery and possibly farm plenty of divine pearls with flutterbis god while you breeze through fishing lv
bubo active with grind time
is there a convenient list to see the best place for each statue drop?
The pins
with 130 in mana, my cooldown says 147, but 294 is 148.... will this be a problem
Trickz made a guide including that
1 second wont do much.
Just replace the w2 “snelbies” as tyson
ok tyvm
I would personally do pots over tysons
Tysons is technically better for pure statue gains but only by a very small amount
The glass shards are definitely worth that small loss

Pots does like 470 orb while tysons does 530 orb
Amount of glassshard you get is pretty minimal in the 12 hours it takes you to farm the statues though
I just mean for statue farming in general
Ah ok that makes sense
Snelbies are actually weaker than sandy pots even in terms of pure statue, so no reason to do snelbies
Yeah the whole snelbies for W2 crystals thing has always been a pet peeve of mine for some reason. Its not even close to being as good as other maps
Even sand castles is better than snelbies
how much DR is obols? i only have around 5.5 DR wih very few and im wondering how much focusing on obols will help
Whens the best time to farm pop obols?
its always NOW
this is no hyper/rando event obols
thanks all i have seen the light
the moment you unlock ES
Wath pop obols mean??
you got 10 more than me....you got the 5k family spot?
The obols which drop from giga frogs
Whic have pop written on them
probably forgot to reroll some
just found what im missing...2x pops on pers. are 3 ea...and got 2 hyper skull obols
thats the missing 10 for me
statues in w4 suk....
W5 is the real pain
not really...im active in w5 anyway
Well yeah if you have some statues set aside already then great
at wurms my dk get about 600+ orb
But going from 0 to 20k div statues takes a long time
strong
wurms has lots of mobs
Yeah I'm doing it at wurms and I get 800-900 orb consistently
With 1 in 26 crystal spawn and 20x DR
i got so many at wurms i might even put statues there
Also the reason why dk performs better than ES on wurms, while ES gets disadvantages due to high mob HP
it finaly happened
you know you can reach it earlier if you are on off class?
i cant
That is on a different class
low cost scaling bubble
Carpenter bubble is always in the 190's for 100m cost
should we be doing all quests on every character now for the efficiency then?
efficiency? u dont need to
speaking of salts...is 1m salt max per refine lvl?
only 1 character unlocks for everyone
The talent gives all skill efficiency per quest completed on that character though so you need to do quests on everyone to scale it
And apparently its a multi too so its actually decent
wow that bubble almost didnt increase my build speed, sad
true, had forgot about this
fair, so try do as many quests as possible except evergreen
The low cost scaling means that by the time its in atom range you already have a lot of its effect
So carpenter is a good bubble overall but theres not a lot to gain from atoming it a whole lot
This per tier or base mk?
base i believe
thats a 18% per unique onyx, additive
its still pretty good with enough onyx's
how many onyx are available?
There are 25 onyx
its not that much if u already have a ton of multi
so 450% multikill added to your total
yeah i'd prefer it being a lower % and a multi
General line is if something is additive =
if something is multiplicative =
(or per tier in this case)
that's pretty low overall
In relative doesnt do much on gmush, but okay for later world mobs
but still, better than nothing
would a real nice bonus if it was a bonus per dmg tier
thought it was per tier, lol
bonus should have been doubled
I mean just lower the % and give us per tier
so we could add 1k multikill with that, would be cool
It still boosts gmush kills by like 2-3%
Maybe my brain hasn't had enough coffee yet today, but for the onyx statue thing, you only need to get 20k power statues for each character right? You don't need to actually Onyx each statue on each character do you?
The idea for 20k power for each player is to get the second quest and farm 10k kpow statues
You only need 20k power per char for the kachow statues, which are hard to get
Onyx system unlocks for everyone for doing quest on one character
remember u have to farm then 100k statues on each character to do the quest
Doing 9 characters is just if you want the kapow statue reward
so its a total of 200k power statues and 1million statues farmed
Right right, but the statues farmed can come from anywhere at that point, ezpz
just do copper candy farm for 100k easy
most classes have it quite easy
you don't need to do the 100k statues on everyone
dont u?
and the power stautes can just come from dk so you dont even need to farm it on each class
3 or 4 is enough, to onyx the kapow and dump 10-20k into it
Smh just get doot and X000x your multi 
but the 100k statues give skill exp and kachow statues as reward
isnt 80k onyx dumped better than 10k 20k??
so you want to do that quest on everyone
its critical dmg bro, its huge
If you want the kapow, need to do 100k statues. But 100k statues doesnt have to be from battle
Dope, okay, I'll just farm up those statues during work
giga dmg
I assume that the questline is one per acc? Or can multiple do the 10k kapow
remember to drop the kpow statues only after this , at least 100%
to make sure u get double
they can all do all the quests, 240 hours of free candy 
Exactly, just do copper candy mining statue farm, easy
critical damage is low priority stat that only happens in active, and most cases its overkill anyway
it's really good for ES
And crit doesnt count for multikills and any other gains
and rift pushing
gotta active farm that rift
or for shimmering island
maybe we'll need it for W6 too i suppose
does the dps dummy actually give anything tho?
yes
can you get triple with 125%?
neeed to get this as high as possible
or is it just to test dps?
Its situationally good, but due to narrow application its low priority
it's the multipler against the new book
its parts of a possible weekly
oh ya
i heard that u cant
it does once you get the star talent
dont have the book yet
but star talent points are really stretched thin at this point
the shimmer skill is a big investment for the benefit
true
i feel like i have the points for that
soon w2 onyx statues will be finished! then onward to w3
is Thicc Skinn statue super slow going?
Also the bigger cost of expected 300 shimmer pts cost
true
I just candied tropilog for thicc
not rly, i have them by droporder
see this is top strat
meh u guys with all those candies! abusers
And why the PIN SUCKS 😄
i dont have any!
not bad
That's 200 hours?
dont want to annoy u but i updated my ie
is that a good rate of statue?
oh ok
nice 36k overnight pôwer statue 🙂
Brother these quests are so annoying; the game is not optimized for not picking stuff up losing frame whilst not begin able to see where I'm still missing the tails due to other items being in the first plan 🥲
Hopped that cheesing by droping the item would work but to no avail
I wouldnt bother because you still need to farm W2 crystals for other statues
And the defense statue drops more than the exp statue so you'll get well over 20k
Need to farm 100k statues on ES, ehats the best map to do so
check pin
where pin is saying "snelbies > sandypots" is it saying snelbies are BETTER or snelbies then sandy pots?
sand pots give glass shard so its a good option
but the map is two platform instead of snelbie being one large
what can i do to increase my droprate?
many things search legend of idleon droprate chart, it will give you a nice roundabout
I asked about this yesterday but my question was lost in the feed, and it probably has already been asked more than once, my hands crawled some things in the game to finally bring to mind, I wanted to ask how I need to set and collect traps for the maximum benefit of the loot or experience for all characters, not just BM
What am I missing about this unique statues thing? I have 19 different that I'm carrying, but only seeing 7 in the quest tab.
When should I start farming pop obols for drop rate boost, would ES be the best for this or should it be done AFK?
only updates when you enter floms map
Thanks.
journeyman+ is the beste for EXP trapping
Even for pure statues, sandy pot does bit better than snelbies. And tyson is actually better for pure statues
BM best for Critter amount (with vman talent boosting it up)