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[dreamy spruce]

damn thats insane

[dapper prism]

Daily

As it's time gated pretty hard

[dreamy spruce]

I meant once a day or 2-3x

[dapper prism]

Several of each, depends if im going to active bubo or not, and what i can afford

[signal osprey]

They have a fairly decent chance to get so I was full purchasing them to liquid cap and getting at least 1-2 of each on most days

[dreamy spruce]

alright, thanks

[serene solstice]

ok I should go for seasalt island but I somehow want to open fractal island first what should I do D:

[signal osprey]

Also you can skip the third obol pack if all you want is skilling obols

They only drop W3 skills but those can be farmed very quickly from W3 crystals instead

[glacial venture]

seasalt helps in lvling fishing

[sonic monolith]

How do you have that many extra levels in it?

[signal osprey]

Although it is worth mentioning that the 3rd obol pack does offer card drop obols so if you need to get the sparkle for slab you might still want to do it

[serene solstice]

vman

[dapper prism]

@mint tree Were catch obols from somewhere else besides alch shop? Idk why but i had a feeling they are

[winged bane]

Best way to farm power statues?

[signal osprey]

As far as I'm aware no

W1 and W2 obols are from alch shop only

[sonic monolith]

Ahhhh. Forgot about that.

[signal osprey]

W1 is available in the first 2 obol packs and W2 is only available in the 2nd pack

[glacial venture]

werent catching obols from fishing?

[dreamy spruce]

Thanks

[willow drum]

statues

[serene solstice]

ok when you don't care about the last quest step of the fishing npc and about fishing lvl atm fractal island would be good to go next right?

[glacial venture]

oh forgot.....annoying obols^^

[quartz turtle]

do multikill do anything for statue farming?

[mossy void]

Why is it recommended to have 2 elemental sorcerers?

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure fractal is bugged

[willow drum]

more gods for prints

[serene solstice]

in what way buged?

[signal osprey]

If you try to candy it you candy fishing instead

[serene solstice]

oh hmm

[signal osprey]

Plus it requires 100k hours of afk on average to get a single trophy

And most of the non trophy rewards arent that good

[serene solstice]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[signal osprey]

I'm personally considering taking it last. Even after crystal island

[serene solstice]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

idk what do to

I somehow want it rn but at the same time I don't want to waste bottles xD

[signal osprey]

I think I'm going Trash > Shimmer > Seasalt > Rando > Crystal > Fractal

[copper pebble]

Look at it this way, use Crystal to farm candies for Fractal

[signal osprey]

Only way I see that changing is if fractal gets fixed then maybe I get it earlier

[serene solstice]

getting enough candies trough my normal giants xD

[copper pebble]

You don’t have enough

[signal osprey]

I think you're underestimating how much candy is needed for 100k

Most players dont even have 10k

[serene solstice]

trust me I have. since I don't use em on other things

who said I would use candy for it?

maybe I go nuts by normal afking

xD

[copper pebble]

Lol, denialism

[dreamy spruce]

does choco chip work on crystal island?

[copper pebble]

Yea but it spawns smaller versions, not the large ones

[mossy void]

who should I push W5 with?

[zealous niche]

Sounds possible, but also, why?

[exotic juniper]

tremur needs to much more def than anything else lol

[zealous niche]

The progress from other things would be more beneficial most likely

[signal osprey]

That would get you a little over 4k hours by the time you get fractal assuming you get it last. Even less hours if you get it sooner

[languid topaz]

Tbh I'm looking forward to switching my characters to afk nothing. It takes so much work to move chips around for them on wurms

[signal osprey]

To put it in perspective the trophy takes on average 139 months of afk

Good luck with that

[serene solstice]

or be rng carried like me and get 10 in 1h of afk on all characters e z

so normal afk works on fractal island tho right?

only candy is buged?

[signal osprey]

I would assume normal afk is bugged too

Candy just simulates normal afk

[serene solstice]

oh yeah true

maybe fishing is just a bonus? xD

[elfin cape]

What's the bug?

[signal osprey]

You cant afk nothing

[elfin cape]

Oh, true

[signal osprey]

On fractal island if you try to afk it gives you fishing gains instead

[elfin cape]

LMAO

[jagged relic]

Okay Where's the best place to farm power statues? I've tons of lots but only 9k of them

[elfin cape]

🅱️eans

[untold saffron]

which quest is the second star talent from?

[foggy gull]

Any idea why its multiple waves of beans before getting a crystal mob with 33% from PO 116% from Special Talent and 70.7% from stamp on my DK?

[misty spindle]

beans

[jagged relic]

Thank youuu, now I know why you were farming beans with DK 😂

[dreamy spruce]

check IE for your crystal spawn chance

[elfin cape]

Imagine not having 3m power statues sitting on storage

[stiff adder]

What does it mean when a number is in green in IE 3D printing page?

[glacial venture]

most annoying is the royal worm quest

killing 5 mutants

[misty spindle]

Who has the best drop rate when fighting bosses? is it mman?

[elfin cape]

[signal osprey]

Thats the item that character is actively printing

[glacial venture]

not long ago i killed 10 or so cause i forgot them....

[elfin cape]

LMAO

[dense eagle]

on skilling card farming efficiency matters?

[glacial venture]

you need 100%

others dont matter

[dense eagle]

kk and drop rate?

[signal osprey]

Drop rate works yeah. My vman farms card with afk cards and full DR/CDR

[dense eagle]

❤️

[signal osprey]

Add CTroll if you need some efficiency to hit 100%

[dense eagle]

nah 100% its to ez

[signal osprey]

Not when you start leveling the skill exp prayer

That thing is a huge efficiency loss at higher levels

[foggy gull]

1-90 why is it so low with those bonuses?

[dense eagle]

i dont think i care on vman skills exp atm he got 101 on all base once

[dreamy spruce]

do you have cards?

poop and genie are big increases

[foggy gull]

yes both those also forgot to mention poop is L4 genie is L2

[elfin cape]

How long should it take for 25k crystal kills?

[foggy gull]

and Shrines L12

[dreamy spruce]

you prob missing shrine its a big bonus

ah nvm didnt see you type it

can you post screenshot of boosts?

[pure ember]

Pls tell me this is one of those joke quests

[signal osprey]

1 in 90 sounds completely normal for those cards and shrine level

[pure ember]

The haha did it 1-10 times....

Like early w2 quest....

........ yikes

[signal osprey]

Time to ES farm your seeker vials to get keys along the way

[pure ember]

It will be easier now with +150% from onyx

....nvm thinking of kattle

[hollow sandal]

Whats best way to farm the statues for the quest?

[pure ember]

Dk

[signal osprey]

If you mean power statues yes its DK at beans.

[hollow sandal]

And which map is the best for power statue

[pure ember]

I did bored beans and got all w1 except for heart and kachow to onyx

[signal osprey]

[pure ember]

I have 900 arena tickets..... should get me close?

[hollow sandal]

Im a blind guy dont judge me

[signal osprey]

If you have a good DK that should get you close to 6k yeah but you'll eventually want to do the quest on everyone

[pure ember]

Had around a 1 in 30 crystal chance, and 14 DR

[signal osprey]

So gonna have to bust out the ES or get a few thousand more colo tickets whichever option you prefer

[calm yew]

Sigh, I'm pretty sure I've never even gotten 20K statues in total; (

[tight ridge]

are beans really best for power statues? 3 hours got me 4K so far

[calm yew]

Not that it matters because I drop them every time they go to town

[warped grail]

If i make a obsidian statue is for all characters?

[signal osprey]

Power statues are one of the lowest drop rate statues in the W1 crystal table

But yes beans is the best W1 crystal farm for any crystal drops

Including power statues

[tight ridge]

aight thanks

[willow drum]

it's the best, if you don't believe everyone saying the same thing figure it out yourself 🤷‍♂️

[glacial venture]

all fake news about beans^^

[signal osprey]

I personally get like 3x more of the mining and chopping statues than I do power statues to give you an idea

[willow drum]

just gaslighting everyone to believe it

[signal osprey]

That one just takes awhile

[tight ridge]

i am figuring it out myself i have 12K of the other ones its just power statue is at 4k so was wondering if theres a specific spot thats better for just that

[signal osprey]

Only thing that matters is getting as many crystals per hour as well as a good orb count

And beans is the best map on average for those two things

In W1 at least

[brittle knoll]

how do i increase my statue drops

[glacial venture]

must be feeling crazy without a choco chip

[willow drum]

crystal rate / dr / choc chip

[brittle knoll]

ty

[signal osprey]

Use library books to get your DK talents up and then push crystal spawn and Dr as high as possible

[calm yew]

Are bleach logs still the best way to get the mining statues?

[signal osprey]

Probably but you'll get the mining statues while farming the power statues

[pure ember]

Wrong with the pin

[willow drum]

I think oak would be more?

[signal osprey]

On average crystals drop 3x mining per power

[willow drum]

since you get more per swing

[signal osprey]

So farming 20k power will easily get 20k mining

[pine pond]

2nd one doneeee

[pure ember]

Completed quest on DK turned them to onyx on SB..... Who Dropped the chisel

[calm yew]

I don't have much knowledge on how to farm crystals very well

[pure ember]

What's the star book do?

[willow drum]

flat multikill per onyx statue

[signal osprey]

You'll want to maximize crystal spawn chance using the cards and card doublers and then get as much DR as possible

Also DK scales very well with talent levels so using books is important. Especially on the orb skill

[calm yew]

What are card doublers?

[hollow sandal]

Whats the skill order for DK statue farming i rarely use the class

[signal osprey]

A lab chip that doubles the effects of cards in certain slots

If you dont have them its fine you can still crystal farm you just wont get as many crystals

[calm yew]

Ok, ty

[signal osprey]

The most important part is having the choco chip

Missing that chip is a pretty big loss

[calm yew]

Yeah I don't have that. I pretty much gave up on cooking so I don't think I'll ever get it

[open chasm]

yes you will, one day

[spark grail]

I can delete my character and start back at level 1?

[willow drum]

give up on cooking?

you just leave it there

and it cooks

[signal osprey]

Its arguably the single strongest bonus in the game. Getting choco chip is very important even if it takes you awhile to do

[calm yew]

Well as far as cooking goes I've been doing turkeys for the past 5 or 6 months. I think it's a three-star purple plate 🙂

[signal osprey]

Active farming without choco chip is basically playing the free trial of idleon

[open chasm]

focus on cabbage and other cooking % upgrade foods

[tacit tulip]

lol

[noble sable]

Its a star talent?

[hollow sandal]

Can someone show me Their DK skill lineup for active farming?

[green eagle]

lmao at least i can go grind those keys out now that i know about it💀

[noble sable]

This?

[hollow sandal]

Tyty just needed to check if it was similar to mine

[noble sable]

np 💪

[glacial venture]

most important part of dk is shockwave slash

[wind umbra]

anyone know if the onyx statue 2x bonus is multiplicative with voidwalker or additive?

[pine pond]

yuea

[noble sable]

[open ore]

where u farm so many so fast 😮

[hollow sandal]

Ty also

[pine pond]

the 2x bonus just doubles the statues.

[pine pond]

i could have a third one almost done

but nah

actually

i will

[hollow sandal]

Is this solid DR btw?

[pine pond]

kinda low but decent

[open ore]

but where 😮

[hollow sandal]

Aight ill look into getting it higher if i can ig

[visual lava]

Just a plain old 2x multiplier

Simple

I like it

[pine pond]

yeah

[lunar oar]

What's that 2x from?

[pine pond]

onyx

😛

it's what it do

ive seen someone with 1200 feasty

its hot

[lunar oar]

Oh damn I didn't even see there's a new update

[pine pond]

lmfao

yeah

its out

gotta get that statue grind onnn

[visual lava]

Onyx statues got added in todays update, you can find enough info on the patch notes

[pine pond]

we climbing

[vale wadi]

Do u need to put 20 k statatues in in for onyx on 1 char or can you just press deposit all?

[pine pond]

you need to drop 20k statues on the statue guy. they get dissolved and then you unlock onyx for that statue

[visual lava]

If I read it correctly you drop them

Not use them

[wind umbra]

ty for anwer

[calm yew]

Did you all know this kind of update was coming? I've seen a lot of people that have saved their statues. I was wondering why

[pine pond]

yup

i knew it

thats why i have 1m woodcutting

lmfao

[signal osprey]

He teased onyx statues a few days ago

[pine pond]

i called the fishing update before it came out

[signal osprey]

Some of us saved just in case

[pine pond]

not hard to think like lava

[visual lava]

Okay Doot2 when?

[pine pond]

when youve known him for 3+ years

11k more defense statues

[signal osprey]

Should constantly be farming statues anyway given that DK is the best class

[pine pond]

ugh

i honestly paused farming statues

but im back with it now

[visual lava]

Okay 20k Kachow statues when?

[pine pond]

already done

[open ore]

oh
candies count also for it

xD

[barren otter]

do i really care to do the 20k power statues on all 10 chars....

[open ore]

time to finish his quest

xD

[visual lava]

All 10?

[signal osprey]

You get 10k kachow from a new quest

[pine pond]

yes

[signal osprey]

100k total

[pine pond]

you get 10k kachow from quest

its not that hard

[signal osprey]

Think of the beans

[pine pond]

tbh i did it on carrotman

[signal osprey]

Gross

[clear quartz]

🅱️eans time

[pine pond]

they also drop power statue

[signal osprey]

Yeah but beans is just better

[pine pond]

bleh

i like my carrots

[vagrant mountain]

didnt realize update dropped and i deposted 200k ea statue this morning lol

[barren otter]

ah yes my favorite place

[pine pond]

bad boy

[visual lava]

Beans are good for you in- and outside of game

[pine pond]

dont do stupid things before an update that was gonna buff statues

what are you

crazy

anticipate the updates

[vagrant mountain]

eh 200k each is like one overnight

[signal osprey]

I'll be back to beans when I finish refilling liquid

[noble cradle]

can i increase mining power on obols with rerolling ?

[vagrant mountain]

no

[pine pond]

no

[clear quartz]

🍑 💨 🫘

[tidal sky]

this feels good

[signal osprey]

Can't wait to turn mine in too

[pine pond]

same

my 1m woodcutting statues

gonna go brr

[vagrant mountain]

close

[barren otter]

it took me like 2.5 hrs to farm 20k power statues

that felt slow...

[pine pond]

not bad

now do 200k

😛

[barren otter]

uh

excuse you

its 180k

[tidal sky]

also for each onyx statue we have, we get the 10% bonus when depositing is that the correct understanding?

[pine pond]

[pine pond]

yup

[vagrant mountain]

10% more for each onyx?

[clear quartz]

this is gonna take awhile lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah no dumping statues yet

[pine pond]

per

[signal osprey]

Gotta farm all onyx first

[barren otter]

yea not depositing any statues until all onyx unlocked

including the aids ones

[thorn marsh]

am I missing something with the mutated mush spawnkills?

isn't that gonna take ages?

[pine pond]

what?

what u talking about

xD

[clear quartz]

colo

or does colo not count

[pine pond]

why we doing colo

[thorn marsh]

colo didn't count for me just now

[pine pond]

im confused

[thorn marsh]

kill 5 mushs, but there's like a weekly timer on respawn, no?

[pine pond]

wheres that quest

[fast grail]

Best way to get fishing statues is w2 catching?

[pine pond]

?

[clear quartz]

royal wurm

[pine pond]

ah

[glacial venture]

royal wurm

2nd quest

[thorn marsh]

colo defo doesn't count

[clear quartz]

feels bad, i just popped mush yesterday too lol

[light pawn]

what im doing wrong?

[pine pond]

read it

idk

im not there yet

[light pawn]

all dead

its kill all without respawn quest

[pine pond]

weird

[noble cradle]

how did u get that quest?

[leaden epoch]

maybe close and reopen the game and try again

[light pawn]

npc at flying worms

[noble cradle]

ahhh

im stuck at quest 2

[light pawn]

theyr easy

[hearty saddle]

Just cleared 5 mush next step is 48.5mil arena score

[open ore]

i think the next one will break alot of player xD

me included

[pine pond]

ez

[thorn marsh]

you had 5 stacked and ready?

[pine pond]

yeah?

i wish i did

[hearty saddle]

Yeah I never do it

[open ore]

im glad i saved it xD
but mainly becuz i forget this damn minibosses

[pine pond]

damn

you guys losing out on candy

[hearty saddle]

I save all mine

[open ore]

ah
idm xD

im stuck anyways now
towerdefence clash of cans :c

[nocturne peak]

How do you increase the amount of statues per drop? Multikill? Afk gain?

[pine pond]

for real gonna tkae months to do that

[light pawn]

oh noe

[pine pond]

on everyone

[pine pond]

drop rate and DK

[pine pond]

ez

[open ore]

told it will break alot of player xD

i will be stuck there FOREVER

[signal osprey]

Sounds like you need more construction

[pine pond]

^

[open ore]

working on it

and a good layout for this towerdefence

[sacred monolith]

Whats the max level for DK orb before it starts to overlap?

[fast grail]

267

[glacial venture]

267 i heard

[sacred monolith]

cool, thanks

[glacial venture]

with mana box

[woeful current]

Does Multikill affect crystal mob spawn rate?

[pine pond]

nope

i wish

[woeful current]

Aight thanks!

[iron mesa]

Helmet

[zinc torrent]

Im running the 20x dungeon reqwards on my DK but it seems to be bugging out a lot and only awarding one roll after the dungeon, any ideas?

[pine pond]

are you in a party

with 3 or more

[opaque sun]

past 310, the longer duration offsets the overlap issue of the orb

[dreamy spruce]

why is that?

[opaque sun]

because it recasts orb as “when duration is X sec left” not “ immediately recast when orb is ready”

X being roughly 5 sec

[dreamy spruce]

ah

[green eagle]

have to go afk for a while

pains me losing the obol gains, but i hate coming back to desync

my DK has lost me another hour on my reset time lately

[opaque sun]

Overlap is like a static 10-15 sec lost. So just getting more duration kind of cancels out that 10-15 sec lost

270-290 talent levels is the range where the overlap hurts

[green eagle]

i miss my original reset time, it was at 9:30am my time, so it was a nice start of the day, now it's past noon. so it just takes "forever" to get to the reset

[vagrant mountain]

are you saying longer orb duration nullifies the orb overlapping problem?

[paper sail]

My reset has slowly drifted to an hour after my usual bedtime 😴

[vagrant mountain]

i literally just reset my PO box to get rid of mana box lol

[zinc torrent]

Yeah everytime

[green eagle]

but why

[vagrant mountain]

longer orb

[lyric sequoia]

How much is "a lot of personal damage" in that quest, seems like a silly requirement when players provide exactly 0 help damage-wise

[signal osprey]

I think it was 5k

[prisma drift]

I was debating it

[lyric sequoia]

What in the fuck that's so much damage to hit at 1 a piece

There's no way that's in 1 single run right?

[vagrant mountain]

turns out to be 10-20% more drops

[signal osprey]

Yeah. Its not that bad if you can push higher waves but its not possible to do in a wave 55 run which is what the quest requires

[prisma drift]

Yeah I seen endgamers discussing it

[vagrant mountain]

i incepted the idea

contract was test dummy

[lyric sequoia]

Oh i suppose hitting the 10b health boss probably makes it less of a pain to do, didn't think of that

[signal osprey]

If you have doot and slug theres not much point i guess as you can push 300+ talent levels easily

[prisma drift]

Contract is a great test dummy

[vagrant mountain]

yes i was gated by books to max out my orb xd

[signal osprey]

I don't have doot though so I would need to run arctis and I don't do that on DK

[elfin cape]

How many quests are there in the game? Can you cap all 600 for the new talent book?

[vagrant mountain]

wtf my PO box didnt reset

[signal osprey]

But if you cap at 294 talent level like me then its just an increase to orb time so no reason not to do it imo

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure you can't even cap the 400 for the luck talent

[scarlet bay]

is there a general list of which world is best to farm for which statues?

[vagrant mountain]

just check crystal drops on card

[signal osprey]

On what map?

[lyric sequoia]

areyoufuckingkiddingmewhatinthefuckwhycantitbejustalittllemore

[vagrant mountain]

dont farm statues on ES lol

[elfin cape]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[green eagle]

do i wanna do midas while doing statues? i just realized i had it off lol

[vagrant mountain]

probably issue with your DK then

[lyric sequoia]

DK is the best crystal statue farmer, period. ES doesn't compare

[signal osprey]

Well yeah you picked a bad map

[elfin cape]

Yes

[scarlet bay]

checking the cards is what i was hoping to not do, rip

[signal osprey]

Most statues possible is DK at beans. That will give more than ES at snakes

[elfin cape]

Beans best W1 map tho

[lyric sequoia]

If your ES compares to your DK for statues then you've not pushed your DK enough

[vagrant mountain]

honestly dont even farm statues if you get 1k an hour XD

[elfin cape]

W3 statues are mob drops right? So gotta use ES?

[signal osprey]

Yeah my DK gets 25k mining/chopping statues per hour

[crystal socket]

does beans even drop statues?

[signal osprey]

Or candy so you don't waste time on ES

[vagrant mountain]

you farm beans to farm crystal carrots

[paper sail]

Way more about pushing crystal chance than pushing the DK itself

[snow kelp]

Sad. Used roughly 500k misc status in last 3 weeks...

[lyric sequoia]

I hate that the warrior talent bubble is mouseys to level, taking an annoying amount of time to put it in atom range

[signal osprey]

It is also about pushing talent levels too. DK is very dependant on having high enough talent levels to wipe screens instantly

[paper sail]

Sure but even a perfect talented DK with 1 in 1k crystal chance is not going to do anything

[vagrant mountain]

yeah if you dont have choco chip dont even think about farming statues

i forgot choco chip once and i got like 1k statues in an hour

[paper sail]

Imagine not having every bubble in Atom range

[lyric sequoia]

Pushing crystal chance is pushing DK

[vagrant mountain]

put it on and i got 1k statues in 5 mins

[lyric sequoia]

I do, except for the trapping and some of the salt ones because trapping is a real pain in my backside and I refuse to do anything about making it better out of protest

[paper sail]

You can't expect everyone to know that. Just be specific 🤷

[placid mural]

So the onyx statues should increase chopping power by about 2:00. If you have a decently high statue level, correct?

200*

[brisk bane]

What's the correct DK skill bar setup for beans?

[placid mural]

Respond orb statue shockwave

[signal osprey]

Its a 2x multiplier so just double whatever you currently have

[lyric sequoia]

All the skillls he has, shove them alll on bar

[paper sail]

What is your drop rate?

[lyric sequoia]

The only character that allocated attacks particularly matters on is bubo because of his cooldown ability

[placid mural]

And its multiplication is against other multiplied bonuses correct not attitude?

Not added to?

[signal osprey]

Thats what I've been told but I haven't turned mine in yet so I don't know from experience

[vagrant mountain]

are you using speech to text or something? lol

[empty berry]

is it worth to fight baby boa instead of beans for the statues?

[untold lintel]

def text to speech

[placid mural]

Yes

[vagrant mountain]

lol

[untold lintel]

bro said respond before his response

[vagrant mountain]

be careful if you driving bro 😆

[untold lintel]

hes an ai

dying in a car crash due to idleon

[placid mural]

I am being careful that's why i'm using text to speak

[untold lintel]

smh

[vagrant mountain]

due to idleon discord*

[paper sail]

He was saying Respawn, not respond

[placid mural]

Thank you scoliosis lol

Scoli*

[vagrant mountain]

lmao

[paper sail]

Scoli is just short for Scoliosis

[placid mural]

If it wasn't it is now

[paper sail]

Has been for 20 years

[placid mural]

I'm not sure if you're leaning into the joke or if you're serious

Respect either way

[paper sail]

Being truthful. I have scoliosis

[placid mural]

Way to own it

[paper sail]

C curve up top causes me to lean forward, S curve at the bottom causes me to lean right

I wonky

[paper sail]

The value displayed at statue man was exactly 2x for me, by the way

[placid mural]

So if it is 2 times the base value, then all other multiplications should be multiplied, not additive then.

[gentle anchor]

does w5 worship have prayers?

[placid mural]

Not yet

[paper sail]

I'm still trying to confirm how the +10% works, alongside how the Vial works with it

[placid mural]

Yeah because with the vial does it become 210%?

I know the vial doesn't effectively go above a hundred percent

[vagrant mountain]

i assume it multiplies with the 2x from vial

[paper sail]

If we get 10% per Onyx applied to every statue, that means 250% total with all 25 statues as Onyx. Would Vial make that become 350% or 500%?

[signal osprey]

10% is across all statues so farm full onyx before turning in any statues

And yes it multiplies with snake vial

[crystal socket]

1 in 89 good crystal mob?

[placid mural]

Not really

[paper sail]

That's a decent starting point if you have Chocco Chip. Otherwise nah. Aiming for below 1 in 50, then 40, then 30

[placid mural]

That's way better than I thought it would be

[little pagoda]

At what point do I put my 2 DK on cogs and grind cogs? If ever

[vagrant mountain]

never

DK always on board

[little pagoda]

Even if in theory I can build cogs in like a few seconds with them?

[signal osprey]

You put DK on cogs if you want to play cog clicker

[vagrant mountain]

havent really had a problem with cog prod

[signal osprey]

You can do like thousands of cogs per hour with 2 DKs on cogs

[vagrant mountain]

damn

cogs can smd

[signal osprey]

Then move them back to the board when you're done

[paper sail]

Takes longer to look and delete than make

[signal osprey]

They should only be on cogs while you're actively clicking cogs

[little pagoda]

So what build rate am I aiming for if i want to build lots of cogs to optimize the bord altogether?

[signal osprey]

Thats entirely up to how patient you are

I personally didn't bother until I was able to make a full cog every tick

[little pagoda]

They're at only like base 22k each, but gaining levels pretty rapidly still

Maybe improve my construction bubbles before doing that in a few weeks

[signal osprey]

But you can do it sooner than that if you're fine getting less cogs

[vagrant mountain]

getting about 2k per tick at this level

10k for a cog

[little pagoda]

Ok so at least wait for level 200+ I assume

[paper nova]

I saw somewhere that lava gets a bigger cut of the profit from gem buying if you buy from the website instead of in game. what website was it anyone know?

[vagrant mountain]

the official website

i think legendsofidleon.com

[signal osprey]

I'm sure a quick Google search for idleon will pull it up. Its the official website for the game

[little pagoda]

There is an official website? lol

[paper nova]

I don't see anything besides advertising for his games on there

[signal osprey]

Yeah you can play idleon in browser

[vagrant mountain]

yes web version is actually fastest version

only downside is that it reloads if you desyn

desync*

so you come back to a 2 min afk claim window

[paper nova]

OOoh u buy in-game from browser version.. i see

Are there any weird disconnects with browser version like there is ios to steam?

[vagrant mountain]

read up

[little pagoda]

Steam checkout doesn't work for me so I gotta hop on android every time I wanna buy something

[paper nova]

I saw the desync - otherwise browser version is perfect version?

[dapper prism]

Thats just if u had a desync, just fully close game and steam (not just x but quit steam application) and start it, should work

[little pagoda]

Might be true, never tried doing it after a reload

[vagrant mountain]

desync is a huge issue but it runs the fastest yes

[signal osprey]

Just don't desync

[slim leaf]

is auto loot for all characters?

[paper nova]

Do you lose progress with desync?

[vagrant mountain]

desync is when you lag and the ingame time is desynced from real time, you technically do lose progress because of the lag

[paper sail]

Browser runs like garbage for me compared to Steam

[vagrant mountain]

really?

[paper sail]

Absolutely

[vagrant mountain]

browser for me runs like butter

like 120fps vs 60fps

[paper sail]

Is that why y'all are desyncing like crazy? Playing on Browser?

[vagrant mountain]

no if you desync on browser, you come back to 2 min afk claim window

[paper nova]

is browser his OG version of the game?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[vagrant mountain]

steam client just has a lot of steam specific addons

[paper sail]

Literally after almost 3 months of pure active ES, my daily reset has moved 1 hour. I don't understand the people who say they lose multiple hours every single day

[vagrant mountain]

really?

[little pagoda]

My daily reset moves a few minutes every single day

[signal osprey]

I think my reset is maybe 2 hours later than when I started the game about a year ago

[little pagoda]

It used to be around 1 AM it's now like 7AM

[vagrant mountain]

my reset used to be 4am now its 9am

[paper sail]

Yeah my reset has moved from 815 to 920 or so lol

[dapper prism]

@signal osprey you or anyone ever confirm if each onyx statue unlocks increases the 10% extra statue deposite per onyx, or if its just a static 10%

[signal osprey]

And at least half of that was from a month or two of active dESync

[vagrant mountain]

and ive only been playing like 3 months lol

[little pagoda]

I think it's +10% for that statue no?

[paper sail]

Lord lmao what are you doing

[little pagoda]

Same

[pearl cedar]

Zelb says 10% per statue

[signal osprey]

Zelb said he was getting 4 to 5 kachow statues per statue so the bonus is per onyx

[little pagoda]

Oh that's even better

[vagrant mountain]

[signal osprey]

So farm all your onyx before you turn in statues

[little pagoda]

Btw I think this is a good time to farm some snakeskin for vial huh

I'm only at level 7 can probably reach 10 ish

[pearl cedar]

But now I need to unlock all onyx

[slim leaf]

what are good things to farm in worlds 1-3?

[little pagoda]

I'll only do the more feasible ones, won't touch any of the hard ones

For now

[vagrant mountain]

whatever you need!

[pearl cedar]

What are the hard ones?

[rough crest]

would it be a bad idea to buy the artifact chests in hopes of an ancient?

[signal osprey]

I think I'm gonna candy them. No way I do ES in w3 for those statues

[vagrant mountain]

lol

[little pagoda]

Some are skilling only, and I think w4 you need to be end game ish to get decent rates

[pearl cedar]

I'll do ES an hour to see how much I get per hr

[versed cypress]

geeze who would have tough that the thing that would actualy make me active again in the game is the need to farm statues xDDDDD

[little pagoda]

w5 idk because I don't do oranges yet, but might be okay there

[pearl cedar]

That's literally like the only reason to active lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah the chests can roll for islands you already have artifacts done on. Its only good if you just started sailing and have nothing

[paper sail]

My internet was out for a bit

[little pagoda]

I can think of plenty more

[versed cypress]

and maybe to green stack mob materials xDDD

[rough crest]

yeah that is where i am, kinda struggling and trying to get a good boost.

my sailing is only LV 19

[signal osprey]

If ES isn't able to do all 3 of them in a single day I'll pass

[little pagoda]

Active xp rates and any kind of farming items is more than x10 compared to afk

[pearl cedar]

Money has no point so that's out the window. Maybe rare mob farming with ES

[vagrant mountain]

nice hehe theres only 336 hours in 2 week, i have some hours from idle skilling

[little pagoda]

what do you mean it has no point

[pearl cedar]

But lvl doesnt really matter either

[little pagoda]

Money helps with a bunch of stuff

[little pagoda]

I mean it kinda does, at least up to a certain point

[versed cypress]

i guess level is only up to 450 i think to wear the thropy and scarf from kattle??

[signal osprey]

Thats not a bad start for level 19. Sailing is just a slow mechanic and will be slow no matter what you do

[paper sail]

"Money has no point"

[pearl cedar]

🤷‍♂️

[versed cypress]

and honestlyyou can get massive level gains with good GT bubble and just crystal farming at citrines

[rough crest]

i mostly want to hope for the ancient to pop on the damage artifacts i suppose

[little pagoda]

You wouldn't get that afking

[versed cypress]

money is a need untill its not and basicaly money will come once you dedicate a few weeks to gmush genocide in full

[vagrant mountain]

you just havent afk'd long enough

[pearl cedar]

But more than you'll ever need unless you want to meme 70 refinery speed

[rough crest]

wish i had even half of that , im still in void since my highest LV is about 160-206 right now

[little pagoda]

Point is active play is essential for game progression

[vagrant mountain]

wont argue that

[little pagoda]

I left my secondary dk to gain some levels for a few days, got like 20 levels, left him for a few hours active got 30

Afking is basically only skilling and getting killcount

[versed cypress]

eclipse is 1B kills right

[little pagoda]

And getting afk procs for stuff

[rough crest]

im just afking most of my guys cause divinity

[versed cypress]

id say for god shard money farmng ou need around 20B+ gmush count

[vagrant mountain]

all of my alts are on a hampter ting

[rough crest]

hampter ting?

is that a divinity choice?

[versed cypress]

i have 8 ppl with over 130 days afk to calm xDDDD

[vagrant mountain]

stiltmole grind lol

[rough crest]

oh!

[versed cypress]

havent done vman speedrun... etc xDDD

[vagrant mountain]

why

[little pagoda]

Sounds inefficient but you do you

[versed cypress]

i just havent really been invested in the game as of late and honestly still kinda arent plus not as much time to do massive grinds and leave the game running 24/7

[little pagoda]

I mean yeah, you don't have to play if you're not having fun man

[versed cypress]

i have fun just not much time and well a few other things in my plate like work stuff

[little pagoda]

yeah I get that

[versed cypress]

ill probably come back to the game a bit more properly in the next few weeks at least to make my other chars do other things xDDD

[little pagoda]

Hopefully your afk guys for 6 months are doing something worth lol

[versed cypress]

most of them are gathering rare materials cards or keys

[tender beacon]

Am in world 4 at the moment and I feel like I've hit another progression wall. I seem to be able to push further into w5 but I feel like my gear hasn't changed for ages

Is it worth changin out the void chest for Evergreen?

[chrome lantern]

Your damage seems wildly low for lv 225

[lyric sequoia]

Chizaor armor yo

[tender beacon]

probably is because I am way behind in the liquid and bubbles

[slim leaf]

where do you get the final class for mage?

[lyric sequoia]

Also alch and stamps are probably your downfalll, as is most people who have wildly low damage like that moving into w5

[tender beacon]

Which stamps / alch should I prio and to what lvl?

[little pagoda]

Nah can't be just that, I have around 100m damage and i'm lower level than you on most of my characters, I also have equal or lesser gear

[tender beacon]

a good % of my stamps look like this

[little pagoda]

Stamps help but they're not going to solve anything alone

How is your cooking

[tender beacon]

Getting there but currently focusing on the cooking speed ones

[restive aspen]

go full chizoar

[tender beacon]

Still need a fair few recipes as well

[feral whale]

can someone explain what the atomic NBLB?

[tender beacon]

Hang on can't I send some link of my account? With all the skills etc

[little pagoda]

That doesn't say anything tbh but ok

[lyric sequoia]

hmm, what's a good orb count for beans? I'm in the 450-490 range atm

[little pagoda]

Atom upgrade makes no bubble left behing be able to upgrade bubbles past w2

[tender beacon]

Well most of my cooking time has gone into the meals that decrease cooking time / speed. I'm yet to put any major time into the atk recipes

[little pagoda]

That's because of diamond chef, if your NBLB can't upgrade diamond chef you kinda want to focus on fishing spice

docks whatever

[little pagoda]

You prioritize faster meals, even non cooking speed ones give you cooking speed with vman talent

So you basically at some point upgrade all meals across the board

No need to focus any specific one

[hardy quarry]

Target them to 11 for diamond chef, then vman, then target them to 30, then just level them as you can.

The cooking speed when most of your stuff is 30+ with vman's talent at 220 is bananas

[little pagoda]

So basically I go and upgrade all meals one by one every so often

But still how are you not even 10m damage, idk, might be missing some core mechanics that you can easily progress

[solid jolt]

What does count as a unique statue? I got multiple different ones in my inv but it doesn't go up or down, it's just stuck at 3

[little pagoda]

Gear isn't that important at that point

[hardy quarry]

Just talk to him when you have all of the statues. It'll go through even if his bubble isn't green

[feral whale]

it makes sence to build this if i hardly start upgrades atoms?

[little pagoda]

Gear is something you upgrade as you can not something you need for normal progression

[solid jolt]

Oh

Thanks

[little pagoda]

I think so, diamond chef gets really hard to upgrade normally very quickly

[hardy quarry]

Better to have it when you don't need it than need it and not have it.

[little pagoda]

As long as yout diamond chef is okay ish it's safe to not focus only on dock spices

[feral whale]

i just now on my way to open this dude)

[little pagoda]

Yeah it's the hardest part of getting a good spices build and the reason my spices suck

[tender beacon]

how is this one possible?

[opaque sun]

by discount

[sick sentinel]

stamp cost reductions

[little pagoda]

Bro you really haven't invested in a lot of upgrades because it's not near as high for me

[tender beacon]

Literally what I said at the start XD

[hardy quarry]

The last yellow bubble helps with that, as does a vial.

[little pagoda]

Check your vials

Probably you haven't upgraded them much at all

[hardy quarry]

Oops, last yellow bubble is particles, my bad

[tender beacon]

nope it's lvl7

[unborn siren]

Remind me real quick, for some killer mob prints it is best to use Vman's AoE and then print right after, correct?

[opaque sun]

In the void

[little pagoda]

And you have all your lab bonuses lit up?

[tender beacon]

nope

[little pagoda]

Level 7 is kinda low still I haven't invested much and it's at 10

Lab doubles vials

[lyric sequoia]

Probably is when you don't have cost reductions lowering it

[feral whale]

oh question about trapping mechanic, what i need to do to have maximum xp to every char? who is placing? who must collect?

[unborn siren]

Oh, I see, So during the minigame, go to the place I want, then AoE-> Print

[little pagoda]

Probably should do that then

Lab also has some good damage bonuses

[tender beacon]

I've taken most of my people out of labs to farm for lower stuff because I've missed so much

[opaque sun]

Technically you also want to kill world bosses for the respawn bonuses you get in the void

[little pagoda]

Don't leave your lab off like that, at least link some guys to arctic god and use those

[opaque sun]

respawn % also acts like fight afk gain

[barren otter]

@signal osprey saw you mention active clicking cogs with DKs on cog, this is too fast...

[tender beacon]

o yeah I did as much as linked em with the god thing

[unborn siren]

I've got a 50% multi bonus so I only have one shot. I guess I'm going to go kill some bosses and then try it out.

[lyric sequoia]

Ah cog clicking, the fun game of "will this click whitescreen the game"

[little pagoda]

Where's your idleon efficiency link? I'm nowhere near endgame but I think I can help with lots of easy stuff

[tender beacon]

I had it agesss ago but can't remember how to do one

[zinc torrent]

Is it good to have 10million dmg pre world 5?

[little pagoda]

Yeah it's decent

[zinc torrent]

👍

[signal osprey]

Eventually you can get more than 1 cog at a time

[barren otter]

its too fast

[little pagoda]

Just login and click public profile

[signal osprey]

I don't do it often either but a couple hours of it at some point will do wonders for your cogs

My lowest exp cog went from like 50-60% or so to over 100% the first time a I did a bunch of clicking

[barren otter]

honestly dude

beans + cog clicker is how i want to spend my evening today

[opaque sun]

in a way i want a trash all cogs button

[signal osprey]

I usually do cog clicker on bubo so my DK is on the board during active play

But beans and cogs would still be a pretty good night

[barren otter]

ive hit a wall on build speed anyways

so having DKs off the board wont really lose me much

[signal osprey]

You gain more exp with them on board too

[barren otter]

well yea

[little pagoda]

Only if you have directional xp cogs, otherwise it seems to be the same

[barren otter]

but cog clicking for an hour wont be that much of a loss

[signal osprey]

Its because of bubble 2. It boosts the carpenter bubble while on DK

[tender beacon]

@little pagoda https://www.idleonefficiency.com/

it's dire XD

[little pagoda]

Copy the link to your profile

[tawny egret]

hello mummy pet's effect mean divine link or I will gain divinity point even everywhere?

[tender beacon]

Do you mean put it in the about me bit?

[little pagoda]

link

[zinc torrent]

Best mob for power statues?

[tawny egret]

thanks! that was great!!

[high owl]

does drop rate effect card drop chance?

[little pagoda]

Public profile

[tender beacon]

o sorry

https://kaorishi.idleonefficiency.com/

[chrome lantern]

hate to see those full mini bosses

[little pagoda]

Just for context did you quit and come back?

[tender beacon]

Stopped playing several times yeah

[little pagoda]

Because you have lots of unclaimed stuff

Btw don't kill your mutated mushroom without starting new quest first

It requires 5 kills

[chrome lantern]

It also looks like ur focusing on sigils rn

[fading cape]

when you drop 20k statues at statue for onyx, are they consumed?

[chrome lantern]

until you’ve got all bubbles focus on the cauldrons

[little pagoda]

Lots of bubble unlocks to do

[fading cape]

it does. yes

[high owl]

thanks

[tawny egret]

I tested by use drop chance set than some candy I can say "yes"

[barren otter]

yes

[zinc torrent]

Why beans over carrots to farm?

[little pagoda]

You need to do 3d printer sampling

[fading cape]

boooooo

[little pagoda]

Is your biggest progression to do right now

[barren otter]

go farm your 200k power statues

right now

[little pagoda]

It looks like you haven't done much skilling at all

[tender beacon]

only mining and maybe wood cutting I think

[tender beacon]

Where's the best place for that?

[barren otter]

BEANS

[little pagoda]

Tht's probably not meant for you lol

You have other stuff to focus on

[barren otter]

oh right yea i was talking to ElJay

[tender beacon]

no worries 🙂

[little pagoda]

Basically you need to progress on all areas of the game pretty much

[tender beacon]

o cool just hit 3mill damage because I got the frog companion XD

[little pagoda]

Journeyman -> maestro (at least for now but voidwalker is the goal)

Alchemy, lots of alchemy, breeding and cooking need a lot of work

All skills, printer sampling

You don't need equipment at all, you need a LOT of other things

[tender beacon]

Should I start by bringing all my people back and doing stamps for a bit whilst gathering a load of the early mats again?

[little pagoda]

Don't even bother progressing world 5, you won't be able to do much

Stamps are not a priority, they will be a consequence

[tender beacon]

I'm pretty much at the end of w5

well 5 stages left

[little pagoda]

You can't improve stamps much at all with your current status

[little pagoda]

Ok but that seems miserable as hell

Game progression isn't tied to how far you are in world 5

[tender beacon]

Probably is but I'm a very casual player in all honesty 🙂

[little pagoda]

You only benefit from rushing before world 5, when you reach it, progression comes from other places

Yeah I can see that

But no point in pushing world 5 with current stats

You need to do skills, sampling, breeding, cooking, alchemy, construction, etc

Mats are going to come from sampling

[chrome lantern]

At the very least take them off of sigils

[lyric sequoia]

Get them boys in cauldrons yo

[uncut hull]

I'm getting about 600 Power statues/hr on active DK on Beans. Is this good or bad?

[lyric sequoia]

very low

[little pagoda]

You took your characters to grind what? Levels? Trust me it's not benefitial, you need your characters to do stuff that actually will help thr account

[bright current]

whats ur DR?

[uncut hull]

7.75

[bright current]

push that MF higher

[ocean fox]

For the new onyx statue talent, it is total multikill right? not per tier

[lyric sequoia]

Oh shit I forgot DR affects them, I should probably swap my cons obols to DR ones while doing this huh

[willow drum]

yep it's trash

[ocean fox]

Ah

[uncut hull]

Howww?

[little pagoda]

Probably use your dk to farm DR obols before even doing the statue thing

[lyric sequoia]

Why would i do that

[little pagoda]

Getting double power statue isn't going to help if you can't have lots of them, and statues in general

[chrome lantern]

I ain’t even gonna get to any onyx statues for a few months 😭

[lyric sequoia]

I have 3 full DR obol sets

[chrome lantern]

only 4.25 dr at max

[tender beacon]

I honestly can't remember. My main was my barb for a very long time then I moved to the ranger class. Then when I got into w4 everyone was shoved into lab because I felt that was the most important thing....quickly realised cooking / pets where important but didn't really understand how to progress them so just kinda left it alone

[bright current]

theres a guide to prominent sources of DR somewhere but i cant remember where. tips and tricks maybe?

There a lot fo sources tbh, obols and cards are big ones

[little pagoda]

Try to watch some guides and stuff to understand stuff better, it's hard to explain lol

[uncut hull]

https://dazzaish.idleonefficiency.com/ I have a good amount of Dr obols but i reall dont know what im doing wrong

[little pagoda]

But cooking and breeding are kinda behind as is every skill in general

You need to actually engage in all mechanics to be able to efficiently push maps and stuff, no point in brute forcing it

[bright current]

a "good amount" is all slots full lol

[lyric sequoia]

14x DR, that's at least servicable. Moving actual DR gear around is way too much effort

[tender beacon]

Out of all these things then. Like where do I actually start, Should I just say pick a caldron and focus on unlocking all the bubbles then moving on?
Then bring all chars back to w1 and max farm / 3d print early mats for upgrading them / doing vials

[bright current]

cards need to be changed

statues dont care about MK

and ur killin beans, u dont need xp

[uncut hull]

If statues dont care about DR then why do i need to up mor drop rate??

[bright current]

i meant MK lol i mistyped

[little pagoda]

You can do all of those at once, what is gonna take the most micromanaging is doing 3d printer sampling

[uncut hull]

ohh okay, the damage ones

[bright current]

for statues u want crystal chance, and DR as high as it can go. nothing else matters. maybe speed too

infact, defo speed

[uncut hull]

Do you know what card layout would be best? I dont have any card doubler chips

[solid jolt]

What do onyx statues do?

[little pagoda]

But yeah start doing more alchemy, but also you won't be able to upgrade much alchemy without the materials from skilling

[tender beacon]

Would you mind just sending me a message of a few early things for me to focus on so I can organize myself?

[bright current]

poop, demon genie, then anything with DR

[little pagoda]

Honestly just act as if you're starting the game right now

Do world 2 stuff you missed, then do w3 stuff you missed, and so on

w1 has nothing really

Escept for the skills

[willow drum]

w1 is stamps which will come with your skills and prints

[tender beacon]

So for example

[willow drum]

push talent books as much as you can

[little pagoda]

Upgrade tools on specialized characters, get their talent skilling build going, book talents as you can, then do the skilling + sampling, so on and so forth

[tender beacon]

Should I just dump all my copper in to get this as high as I can and take the mining efficiency loss?

[willow drum]

upgrade it without losing your 10m stack for lab

[uncut hull]

this work?

[little pagoda]

This won't help you so no

[tender beacon]

Why will that not help me?

[little pagoda]

Don't spend all your resources in a single place

Because it's only a few agility points

[lyric sequoia]

What's your doot card at? That should be your best source of DR from a card as long as you've got it gold (ideally higher of course)

[chrome lantern]

I dunno if I’m buggin but 369M copper seems nuts for what ur IE is

maybe I’m crazy

[uncut hull]

mb yeah that's 24, will sub it in for lowest

[tender beacon]

IE? What's that

[chrome lantern]

Idleon efficiency

[little pagoda]

I've never had even 200m copper

[chrome lantern]

the website u linked us too

[tender beacon]

Probably because I was just mining copper ore for ages and it was in my 3d printer

[chrome lantern]

I’ve been playing since august of last year and just a month ago I hit like 300 lol

[little pagoda]

Yeah so basically do 3d prints for everything else

[uncut hull]

I'm at 23M atm 300M is nuts

[little pagoda]

Mining, chopping, fishing, catching

[tender beacon]

I did say it was dire 🙂

[lyric sequoia]

That's what I use, so swapping mimic for doot is the best move if you've got it at 24 since mimic is onbly 10% even at 4 star

[willow drum]

whens the last time you sampled?

[little pagoda]

miningg on DK, chopping on all mages, catching on bowmen, fishing on blood berserker

[tender beacon]

for copper? recently

[willow drum]

whats ur skill lvls on mman

is he #1?

[uncut hull]

Done now. Obv i dont have all rubies yet but thank you

[little pagoda]

He didn't do maestro quest

[willow drum]

ah you should work on that

[lyric sequoia]

Need to figure out which are the easiest 17 statues to get at some point 🤔

[willow drum]

get him to mman and then start skilling

[little pagoda]

Basically stop ignoring all your characters

[willow drum]

he'll be a huge boost to your samples

then work on crafting all the +effic gear

[little pagoda]

They are all equally easy to get 1 of, that quest only asks for 17 unique statues

[sacred cave]

Whats the best dk crystal map w1

[willow drum]

at least until your account gets further then work on troll but that's much later

[willow drum]

beans

[sacred cave]

Ty

[little pagoda]

Looks like I won't be done with power statues until at least tomorrow

[willow drum]

skilling is just as important as fighting

[little pagoda]

I'm only at 5k

The only thing that could significantly speed that up is fury relic but that's so far away

[willow drum]

if you have time active afk your bubo to generate liquid for cauldrons

start unlocking all bubbles you can

[tender beacon]

yeah I do that during the day when I work

[hardy quarry]

What's the chance I could bug 3 individuals for some help to summon Doot? Need my dootophone.

[little pagoda]

I doubt liquid will help him, he won't have materials to upgrade stuff for the most part

[willow drum]

just unlocking them is a good start so NBLB can start hitting em

[little pagoda]

Well... he needs to turn on no bubble left behind on lab first

It's off

[tender beacon]

I'm pretty sure it's maxed my left behind bubbles has it not?

[willow drum]

let me peek the ie real fast

[tender beacon]

Unless I misunderstand how it's used

[little pagoda]

It needs to be active in lab

The node

[chrome lantern]

.

just to bring it back down

[willow drum]

yeah it's not connected

[little pagoda]

Honestly I don't even know where you would start but basically -> do all skills, do sampling

[tender beacon]

yeah I know that but I thought it only did it to lvl20?

[little pagoda]

No

[willow drum]

can you take a picture of your lab layout

[little pagoda]

It upgrades everything forever

[little pagoda]

Yeah turn it on

[willow drum]

move off sigils and to nblb

[tender beacon]

ok done that

[willow drum]

turn off bigg liquids

reduces your regen rate

[little pagoda]

If you can increase line width to turn on vial double eventually that would be good too

[chrome lantern]

Some of my lab levels are lower but with higher pixel widths 😳

[willow drum]

the lab levels are fine tbh, he just needs jewels

[tender beacon]

which one is big liquid? the one above the shrine one?

[little pagoda]

He hasn't done much cooking at all

[willow drum]

yes

[uncut hull]

!'m up to 9.18 DR with best cards and all obols now. Is this enough?

[willow drum]

use your spices to unlock new foods

[willow drum]

should be okayish

[little pagoda]

Gonna take a day or so, I'm at 11.5 DR and only got 5k ish in the last 4 hours ish

[unkempt arch]

now get it to 10

[willow drum]

also upgrade your kitchens

[tender beacon]

Guess I should move off everything on the same meal then?

[uncut hull]

Is there any huge sources of DR im missing asides from just imrpoving Alch?

[willow drum]

use the first kitchen to unlock new recipes

if you have gems upgrade the first one

it'll help unlock things faster

[tidal sky]

statue farming on w2 is sand castle correct?

[willow drum]

if not it's not too crazy

[unkempt arch]

what your cards looking like

[bright current]

easy to overlook, u changed ur card set?

[willow drum]

sand pots or snelbie

[unkempt arch]

and do you have the DR prayer on?

[little pagoda]

There are cooking upgrades you get outside of cooking, like for example sand shark vial, but you need to do skilling to get that, and you need to get diamond chef which is the most important cooking boost early on

[tidal sky]

oh good to know, sandy pots then more useful

[willow drum]

upgrade this and equip on bubo when active afk

[little pagoda]

SB talent as high as you can, complete obols on family AND personal

[willow drum]

you need to upgrade so many bubbles..

[unkempt arch]

but SB is horrendous at crystal farming tho

[willow drum]

also missing alot of vials unlocked

[little pagoda]

His talent improves DR on all characters

[unkempt arch]

wait which one

[tender beacon]

yeah I keep forgetting to do my daily tries

[uncut hull]

just fixed my cards yeah

[uncut hull]

danke shon

[little pagoda]

King of the pirates or whatever it's called

[willow drum]

theirs a trick.. put a bunch of 1 stacks in inventory

shift click then all to drop on the pot

it'll do like 100 tries at once

also max this

[vagrant mountain]

you still get 15 attempts but each attempt rolls 4-5 times

[chrome lantern]

my dr is only at 4.25 on bb and es, is boosting the plunder kills gonna help that much?

[little pagoda]

No

[unkempt arch]

no

[little pagoda]

It's like 10 to 20% multiplicative

and 20% is when you farm it pretty hard

[tender beacon]

It won't let me upgrade the vial thing

[willow drum]

it caps out

[unkempt arch]

that's max

[willow drum]

yeah it's capped

[tender beacon]

o ok

[willow drum]

I wasn't sure since it doesn't show on ie

also I wouldn't recommend putting bb on cooking until you get a decent bit of efficiency

[chrome lantern]

yeah ok I’ve been playing really passively tbh, neglecting crystal countdown, active farming, obols

just doesn’t seem too fun to me

[willow drum]

if you're not getting multiple ladles it's pointless

[little pagoda]

I'll be honest you should be playing like you are in world 2, you skipped a lot of core mechanics, you need to backtrack

[stiff kayak]

yo am i buggin or what

[willow drum]

could be getting him to zow/chow or put him in lab so you can fix jman

[stiff kayak]

where is the npc

[little pagoda]

Just do w4-w5 skills passively and focus on early world stuff

[dapper prism]

did u update your game..?

[stiff kayak]

i cant

idk

[little pagoda]

Maestro and skilling is a good starting point

[dapper prism]

So you know the reason.. nothing bugged..

[willow drum]

sorry if it seems like a lot 🙂

[stiff kayak]

i only alows me to play

[willow drum]

verify integrity or restart steam

[dapper prism]

Fully close the game and steam (not just X) but fully close it, then check

[stiff kayak]

ok

[tender beacon]

gunna go do this for a bit I think and work backwards from there

[slim leaf]

how do you get 3rd skill preset

[little pagoda]

This helps a bit but you need to focus mostly on skill efficiency, not necessarily sample size