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[full plover]

why it would make diff?

[solid epoch]

that helps with active playing

[full plover]

got. but these chips are just luck on rotate store right?

[solid epoch]

if u are looking for more drop rate, id suggest farming gigafrogs to get all your pop obols

[granite grove]

DR chip boosts 0.6 Dr up to 5.0 which is really strong early on

[full plover]

i start to do lab yesterday actually kind late cuze im already on w4 a while 💀

[solid epoch]

it will be kinda slow though

[granite grove]

tho just if lava removes the DR chip cap, he could even nerf it to 0.3 DR just so it has a use later on

[full plover]

noo Im not searching more drop rate just asking to know

[frigid acorn]

the only hard thing is getting spice atm

[solid epoch]

yeah so just know that ES will be better for you until you get your droprate really high

its still better in certain situations even with 20x DR

depending on what ur farming

without DR tho active playing DK with the orb is not very good

[hollow wasp]

just got this relic, time to resample i guess?

[north juniper]

Wish we could just hold down on the sign place to use keys repetitively

My fingers don't like using thousands of keys

[solid epoch]

probably

[eager sedge]

Its additive so not rlly a high bonus

[hollow wasp]

resampling is a long time ago, probs still worth

[solid epoch]

i decide to resample if i think i can get like 1.5X or 2X my old one since im kinda lazy

[eager sedge]

Then yeah

[solid epoch]

if u have upgraded a ton of sampling stuff since then its def worth

[eager sedge]

Im gonna resample when i get all chars to wurms

[solid epoch]

alch bubbles are a big one

[hollow wasp]

i have no idea whats going on im doing W2 colo and my DK keeps getting fishing lvls?

[full plover]

is this skill worth? what is that kitchen fire

[granite grove]

early on it kinda helps with pushing recipe, later on you just bruteforce new recipes with ladles

[ember trench]

anyone unlock fractal island yet? is it worth it if youre not super late game?

[signal osprey]

Its not worth it even if you are super late game

[charred panther]

is there a way to tell how many hours you spent on one map

[fast verge]

i got it from 1.3k to 2.2k
should there be a goal

[solid epoch]

goal is 10k

[full plover]

but how this fire works?
I have a few ladders here, im thinking in push some recipes and then use this skill when laddes out

[vagrant mountain]

first you'll probably want to unlock all the stamps you can and your goal will probably be as high as your carry cap can hold

4k is a really easy total level to hit

[pure ember]

It's a separate timer that fills up the chance for a recipe

[granite grove]

fire is basically the point to unlock recipes, the skill basically attempts to unlock the recipe using only % of the total fire accumulated in a kitchen

say, using a kitchen normally to attempt a recipe unlock removes the fire

using the skill will attempt to unlock a recipe but keep X% fire after doing so

[vagrant mountain]

im 2.5E26 turkies in and I still dont understand fire

[granite grove]

useless stat, didnt even pay attention on maxing fire speed

[pure ember]

^

[granite grove]

well, it has its use but its not much of an priority, just focused to boost cooking speed, fire speed is just a byproduct of maxing everything

[safe harness]

do all the alchemy cauldrons give same xp? what would be best way to get maestro faster xp?

[vagrant mountain]

once you have ladles, you just use those to unlock recipes

[granite grove]

color cauldon has x1 exp, liquid has x1.5 exp iirc

[pure ember]

Put it in the same cauldron as your bubo(s)

[safe harness]

thanks, ill do both

[pure ember]

Bubo has skill that raise xp gained by others in same cauldron

[fast verge]

wait guys do storage have a cap

[dreamy spruce]

Stacks can only go to 1050m if thats what you are asking

[fast verge]

oo

[dreamy spruce]

everything after is automatically converted to atoms

[feral hemlock]

I could push for 20b with cards, chips but i think its too low for nkruk right?

And luck bubble doesnt have that huge of an impact on Vman dmg right?

[pulsar condor]

this good?

[signal osprey]

20b would probably take you 30-45 minutes of punching moles so up to you if youve got the patience for that

[still apex]

Got this pretty quick, last ancient of island 1

[foggy apex]

im starting to notice that i did like a LOAD of starfire BARS and i just cant seem to smelt them fast enough, is there something im missing that could speed this up (i have all 16 purple forges btw)

[flat forge]

Yes, active with your archer

[foggy apex]

oh my god

thankyou

any map that would generrally get me more kills than most?

[wanton obsidian]

Can you guys help me with pet line ups? I really need help with breeding, I've seen the guide but most of the pets there are so far away

[foggy apex]

for spices?

[wanton obsidian]

Spices, areana, spice territory

Literally on all aspects

[foggy apex]

lol oke

[wanton obsidian]

I've just progressed on everything except breeding

[foggy apex]

screen grab your teams tab the entire thing

[wanton obsidian]

Oh

[foggy apex]

lel

[wanton obsidian]

Definitely need help I just realised how bad it is 💀

[foggy apex]

lol

[wary girder]

bruv 32 slime

i didnt even know it could go that low

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kIMO8VSe64YJaUL4HGeaIBlAIaMNgn9XwvlrtJv43Qs/htmlview?fbclid=IwAR2WPeFCFMu4nV_uAUGPyLHOP-vEhXfhyFsMyU2a1tOOFM8c1HypFV82C3k#

[wary girder]

please read through that

[wanton obsidian]

There's a 25 right there

😂

[wary girder]

im honestly baffled

ur even breeding lvl 23

[foggy apex]

lmao wish i read that before having two vmen

[wanton obsidian]

That was when I first started I never touched it

The pets combat pet on it I mean

I'll change my line up real quick

How about areana and spice territory?

[foggy apex]

oh lord im fixing mine now im doing so much better😂

[lyric sequoia]

Bruh what in the fuck. I searched for fury for months and got steak in 2 days after it

[thin tartan]

Question I am pushing for goat, I'm currently at harriep, just pull king doot today should I still push for other gods?

[wanton obsidian]

Wow

[granite grove]

w5 rng experience

[lyric sequoia]

You still need the gods to level their minor bonus

[signal osprey]

You'll still need to unlock everything eventually for blessings but its a lot less important with doot

[thin tartan]

Okay thanks!

[prisma drift]

Sailing was nice to me

I never spent more than like a week and a half on an arti

[placid mural]

Update in beta lock

[granite grove]

ig update would come after summer event ends and just lava doing in preparation, right?

[placid mural]

Not necessarily

[glad crow]

guys.... i f'ed up.... i was bored and accidently ended up memorizing the first 15 decimals of pi....

[viral snow]

If youre an engineer you dont need to assume pi with 3 from now on

[edgy pine]

Man I’m kind of mad because I tried to let my phone over night getting statues but it ended up turning of and then tried to do it again for some more time but something appeared and it froze the game until I clicked on it

[lyric sequoia]

I guess 40 is the cap on shimmer points

Was 40 with 100m accuracy as well, so either the calc gets wild at that range or it's capped

[signal osprey]

All trials are capped at 40

[placid mural]

lol i just had a +9 hr sailing, +9 hr sailing, +9 hr gaming, +9 hr gaming, +9 hour refinery proc all from 1 character. . . . never going to see that again hahaha

[paper sail]

Hrm.. How? If refinery was from Omni, 1 sailing from hampter+bubble, 1 gaming from bubble.. Does dk talent not combine with bubble chance? Even if it doesn't, where did the 2nd sailing come from?

[placid mural]

hampter, green bubble, red bubble, DK talent, and omni

[paper sail]

Hampter and green bubble count towards a single chance

[placid mural]

??

maybe it was a visual bug then?

[paper sail]

At least that is what I've always heard

[signal crypt]

What's the fastest way to farm green leaves for chopping?

[paper sail]

Probably DK on Bored Beans with max crystal chance and drop rate

[fading dust]

You need so much mats to craft magma armor

[paper sail]

Used to be worse

[signal crypt]

Hi @paper sail btw. 😁

[paper sail]

Count your blessings that you don't need 10m per legs any longer

[fading dust]

10m?

[signal crypt]

That has been the original cost, yeah

[fading dust]

Bro we got 10 characters - howd yall do it in the old days

[paper sail]

Yup.. From launch until a few patches ago, they needed 10m. He adjusted then down to 1m now

[signal crypt]

I think I crafted 3 of them at that price ^^

[signal crypt]

Can you elaborate on why that's the best combo?

[paper sail]

ES active farming or printing basically. I had 7 made before the change

[fading dust]

Even troll is kinda nutty cause of all the rare items that are needed

[signal crypt]

The only annoying thing for Troll is the fishing thing

[paper sail]

DK orb bonus gives a nutty amount of bonus loot from Crystals. W1 crystals drop green leaves faster than actual chopping does.

[paper sail]

Hat got nerfed down to 3 thread per instead of 10. Again, count your blessings lol

[little pagoda]

I think I left my bubo active way too long, just came back to 2 lucky lads and 228 full brew bars lol

[fading dust]

I used the 9 I had up

Cause i dodnt realize it needed it

[signal crypt]

Ah, I hadn't thought of the orb drop rate increase. And why Bored Beans?

[paper sail]

They are the most condensed map for DK to farm quickly for high Orb counts.

[signal crypt]

I would have thought slimes but since the restructure of the maps, bored beans have become better?

[paper sail]

Just make sure to filter the Bored Beanie hat so you don't flood your inventory lol. Maybe even the bean slices too if you aren't using Rucksack prayer

[frigid acorn]

the gold twine used to be 10 for each helmet

[paper sail]

Way better, yes. DK can clear and respawn the map every 3-5 seconds at bored beans

[signal crypt]

Alright, thanks a lot! ☺️

[fading dust]

Why is magma gear better for sampling than the skilling equipment?

At leasy that is what I heard

[paper sail]

%stat go brrrr. Every point of main stat gives more Efficiency than the last.

Depends on the equipment though. The lower the %eff it gives, the faster it gets replaced by Magma. Usually pants first, then chest and helm. Boots bonus was buffed with w4 anvil, so they remain better than Magma for now

[vagrant mountain]

opals better than serrated rex?

[paper sail]

Nah, not yet. Rex still stronk

[glad crow]

only for snapshotting

[fading dust]

O, I would have expected %efficiency to be better. I guess at the endgame, our stats are so high that Magma becomes better?

[paper sail]

Iirc, started happening for me around 12-15k main stat that I only used skilling boots and the IS crossover Funny Hat

[fading dust]

There a solid threshold for my main stat where I should consider replace my skilling equipment with magma?

O great thanks!!!

[paper sail]

It'll depend on your other bonuses and stats though, can't say for 100% certain

Like base efficiency from shiny pets probably moves that goalposts, same with base eff from Myriad box, Nobisect, etc.

[gray thicket]

May I ask

What mobs drop the Pop! Obol

[signal osprey]

Gigafrogs

[dreamy spruce]

gigafrog

[gray thicket]

Thanks

[signal osprey]

Its finally over

[gray thicket]

Oh wow

[fathom lagoon]

Sup fammo

How are y’all today

[amber dragon]

What is the fourth automation arm means? its not putting my anvil production into the chesrt

[gray thicket]

Neutral

[fathom lagoon]

Better than bad atleast

[gray thicket]

Much better

[fathom lagoon]

Isn’t the 4th one food related ?

Or am I mixing 1st and 4th idk

[gray thicket]

Second is food

[gray thicket]

I had the same question, gave up thinking it only deposits the anvil production items when they're all full

[serene forum]

Is maxing myrad box crucial?

[fathom lagoon]

Ah it does it once a day I believe

[rustic garnet]

crucial? It's a nice thing, but it has DR

[dreamy spruce]

I believe it deposits the production items of the active char on daily reset

is lvling bb active also a lot faster compared to afk like on every other class? or is his lack of respawn ability so awful its worse than afk?

[viral snow]

Afaik it only does it once a day for the character youre logging in first

[prisma drift]

I got rid of all my speed to flag cogs and now I need to play more cog clicker

[dreamy spruce]

gl

[digital sand]

what happens if you buy the ancient artifact upgrader from the gem shop, but already have all ancients?

Doesnt upgrade to eldritch does it?

[bold quiver]

is this high?

[amber dragon]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

When I unlocked 5th god, should I link all character to it?

[dreamy spruce]

what does it boost?

[bold quiver]

its gold multi

[dreamy spruce]

ah

[bold quiver]

no idea if its high for endgame standards

[dreamy spruce]

I dont know either

maybe #endgame-gen-chat people know better?

[bold quiver]

true gonna sk

[prisma drift]

Im only at 35Mx

[dreamy spruce]

how do you check?

[prisma drift]

IE has it on player screen

Im sure it’s on toolbox somewhere

[dreamy spruce]

alright, thanks

only 2k 💀

[prisma drift]

Need gmush for sure

My gmush multi is 33k lol

[dreamy spruce]

yeah neglected them for a while, almost had more citringe deathnote kills than gmush deathnote kills

am farming gmush now on my sbs

[prisma drift]

I personally just candy it

My sb farm rare drops for me atm

[bold quiver]

yeah i always leave my SB at gmush

nothing else for it to do either way

[torn thorn]

what types of KP/h is good for Mushies now? im curious (sitting at 8m myself)

[bold quiver]

8M is very good already

[torn thorn]

its only on one, I dont have another set of mob respawn candies

[opaque sun]

eventually goes up to 20m/hr

[bold quiver]

cant get higher?

[torn thorn]

Not without getting the first TD afk gain prayer.

[signal osprey]

You can it just gets harder to push the higher you get

[pearl cedar]

26m/hr highest I've seen

[signal osprey]

I've seen 26m

[bold quiver]

damn 26M

[pearl cedar]

But that's zelb

[bold quiver]

cant imagine whats that person dmg

[torn thorn]

Been real lazy about doing it, trying to just level towers absurdly so itll be easy enough.. xD

[pearl cedar]

Think I can hit like 22-24m not sure

[signal osprey]

Yeah real human beings should expect to cap a couple few million lower than zelb

[dreamy spruce]

Who's zelb?

[opaque sun]

With near capped out damage tier i think

[torn thorn]

im sitting at 263% afk gains

[dreamy spruce]

damn

[bold quiver]

i hit 20.1M

[pearl cedar]

#1 bubble clicker

[torn thorn]

so i need to get another 37% im missing atm

I can almost do daily clicks on the big bubble sadly. Havnt gotten lucky procs for it.

[prisma drift]

Zelb has like 580T damage

[torn thorn]

question, Do you use the extra % kills for deathnote prayer? I swear. It gives you less kills on paper? idk if it doubles it on note though

[prisma drift]

From the screenshot I seen

[dreamy spruce]

jesus

[bold quiver]

jez

[pearl cedar]

On his ES too quite impressive

[prisma drift]

Man I was impressed when I seen 50t lol

[pearl cedar]

The minus damage for more MK?

[prisma drift]

I didn’t know damage went that high

[pearl cedar]

This mine from last week

[torn thorn]

Fibers of absence one.

[prisma drift]

I seen that and didn’t realize you also were a god

The real OP people don’t post stats a lot

[dreamy spruce]

damn thats insane

[bold quiver]

thats insane

[pearl cedar]

It affects base kill count so not great. Only useful if the damage it reduces is enough to not take you to a lower tier

[bold quiver]

i should stop neglecting attack bubbles

[dreamy spruce]

Here I am happy to have hit 1b

[prisma drift]

Quick slap go brrrr

[paper sail]

I assume we can dump Oyster mobs on the top floor + DK Orb and then get massive Boop cards, yeah? No reason that wouldn't work? 🤔

[dreamy spruce]

you can even pop em in kattlecruk map

[prisma drift]

Huge brain

[torn thorn]

Mm, I see. Alright. tyty

[dreamy spruce]

gonna be hard to kill the oysters but not the boops

[paper sail]

There is a top floor. Just take off Boomerang

[lapis mesa]

oh thank you for this idea

[prisma drift]

Drop a statue top platform too

[dreamy spruce]

oh right

[prisma drift]

Just let the statue do it’s magic

[paper sail]

Didn't want to 5* cardify if I didn't have to

[torn thorn]

any tips into reaching the trillions of say chopping/mining eff? been waiting to redo samples til then since im over 2x on it.

hovering at 300b

[prisma drift]

Probably atoming all your eff bubbles

Im at 250B with bad bubbles

[torn thorn]

ah so im moving in the right direction then. Ill finish out the passive bubbles then since its "close" lol

[paper sail]

Use IT to preview the percentage of bubbles toward their hard cap. Start aiming for 80%, then 85%, then 90%, etc.

[torn thorn]

yeah, Guess im at that point. Since i need it.

[dreamy spruce]

how good is tool power bubble for mining / chopping?

[torn thorn]

I know the hard cap that increases the class bonuses is 3x

I have a full set of obols 1 pick upgraded with kattlekruk same to axe all successful upgrades

for both sets, But im sitting at 75 on the lvl to avoid going above maestro since hes only at 100 ish on his skills minus his alch

[paper sail]

I started keeping notes each time I sample for easy comparison

[torn thorn]

https://bacon1.idleonefficiency.com Thats my shameful profile.. xD dont judge the vials i have notes set up to max out for the next reprint

[unreal fox]

hi guys, what is the best stat to increase DR?

for active farming

[paper sail]

There is only 1 DR star sign available. After that is 3% luk and 1% all stats, but they generally won't bump much if any

[opaque sun]

I just go DR, active exp and some townskill speed when doing active on a mob that i dont care damage

[torn thorn]

Good idea. Need to do that.

[paper sail]

I'd share mine, but it doesn't have all the Skills on it yet lol

[unreal fox]

my stats increase 5% from star sign @@!

is it good?

[lofty moss]

Is it not possible to get double divine trophies? I looted kattlekruk cape on 2 diffrent chars, but only got the quest on the first one?

[paper sail]

You must have the quest active before the cape drops. You can complete on all 10

[lofty moss]

Had the quest active, got the boss to drop cape still did not progress

[paper sail]

You're special I guess. Working for everyone else 🤷

[unreal fox]

this is max 400 quests right?

[safe harness]

how does this work with orb? im only mid game and this is beyond my comprehension

[pale basin]

Orb gives drop rate(?)

[paper sail]

Every 100 stacks on the Orb acts like you killed the mob again, i.e. you get another full set of drops. If I could get 500 orb, that would be like killing 5 * 30 = 150 Boops worth of drops.

[little pagoda]

I think there are better uses for this trick, no?

[safe harness]

ah gotcha, so even it boops are dead it gives you more kills?

[quartz turtle]

wait drop rate affects card drop rate too?

[little pagoda]

It does and you can snapshot card drop rate before changing to full drop rate

[paper sail]

Not more KILLS, just more loot.

[quartz turtle]

so is ES or DK better in terms of card drops, feels like it would be DK

[little pagoda]

ES still better because high portal gives massive drop rate

[paper sail]

In normal scenarios of farming standard enemies, ES wins big time. With special enemies that you cannot summon Wormholes of, but can stack Orb, DK wins. If you can't summon Wormhole OR stack Orbs, Vman wins.

[safe harness]

so do you got to time it where boops respawn right as you stack orb or something?

[paper sail]

Just do it before killing your daily Boops lol

[little pagoda]

can kill summer mobs on top platform before killing the boops

[safe harness]

o i see, top platform then kill bloops

thanks

[paper sail]

Same sort of strategy as DK on the Slush and Mush bosses. Stack orb, then kill the miniboss for big loot.

[little pagoda]

I think this is better saved for other things though, boops are easy to get to 4 star with just normal drop rate build. Don't know about 5 star

[paper sail]

5* is very slow

[little pagoda]

But it's like 1 extra afk gains right? So unless you need it for the next tier of boss and nightmares set I don't think it's worth

[paper sail]

I mean

I'm getting there

[little pagoda]

True I guess in theory boop is the least farmable of them all since it's daily cap no matter what

[paper sail]

If we keep getting 5* cardifiers each patch, it won't be a problem

I should have bought more the first time 😦

[little pagoda]

I will probably just hoard the shells forever and never use it for anything unless I get stuck on some dk orb rift at some point

[graceful bramble]

I am really struggling to reach 90% sample, barely at 55%, is it mandatory to equip this prayer to reach that 90%?

[paper sail]

Highest possible is roughly 75% without it

[little pagoda]

Very hard to reach 90% without this

[paper sail]

Not just very hard, straight up impossible (as of current patch)

[graceful bramble]

I see, thanks guys

[little pagoda]

Is it literally impossible? Even with new stamp?

[twin token]

The new Stamp gives like a couple of percent

[graceful bramble]

I suppose i have to worry about overleveling the prayer then, just level it enough to reach 90 aight?

[little pagoda]

idk, engamers are on a whole different game so I'm never sure how high people can upgrade certain stuff lol

[twin token]

Tbh u can get 90 percent without it fully levels so u probably wanna just level it a bit

[little pagoda]

lmao nice

[paper sail]

So maybe new max is roughly 80% instead of 75% lol

[little pagoda]

Mine is at 1.7 I think? idk

[graceful bramble]

Damm thats pretty low

[little pagoda]

But it does get doubled by lab

[paper sail]

Most people stop leveling Royal Sampler around 20-30%, but up to you

[twin token]

It doesn't double sample size it doubles ir prints

[modern plaza]

sample max should be unlimited... so then royal sampler is way more useful...

[little pagoda]

Is 90% sample rate hard cap? How long until a new update increases that cap?

[fading dust]

is tremor wurm best for active bubo?

[twin token]

Oh wait nvm ur talking abt stamps

[fading dust]

up to lava

[twin token]

Yes it's hard cap and we don't know

[little pagoda]

I would guess at some point it will be possible

[fading dust]

Wish you could go up to 100 % tbh - i'm capped atm

[little pagoda]

Probs first increase is gonna be to 100%, from some world 6 bonus or something

[graceful bramble]

I wonder how broken it wouldd be to be able to be above 100%

[little pagoda]

Minmaxing in this game is fun

Even for minor bonuses lol

[twin token]

Would just be a muktiplier for prints so yeah rlly good

[fading dust]

Eh, it takes me a few hours to sample on all my characters, which is frustrating

[paper sail]

I'm fine with the 90% sample rate and just increasing printer output as he has been doing with 2x lab, 3x harriep, 750 skill masteries, Gold Relic in sailing, DK pow10 orb kills, etc.

[little pagoda]

I'm barely halfway through world 5 and I was just experimenting with highest drop rate I can reach and I got it up to 9.65 on an archer, prob can reach 10 with vman

[twin token]

U listed every bonus and said ect. Lol

[paper sail]

Future proofing

[fading dust]

but u could get 10 % more plus all that

[twin token]

Genius

[little pagoda]

yeah sampling is less fun lol

[graceful bramble]

I was investing so many mats to improve it when the prayer was the solution lol, from 55 to almost cap

[graceful bramble]

wddym a few hours?

[little pagoda]

Getting setup to maximum sampling takes some time even for me and I'm not in endgame yet

[twin token]

When minmaxing if you don't have everything memorized it takes a few hours to sample everyone

[graceful bramble]

I usually use the tips n tricks list of stuff to change when sampling, i do forget a couple of things too

[twin token]

This is minmaxing prints lol

[graceful bramble]

literally that one lol

[twin token]

And don't even get me started on snapshottiny

[graceful bramble]

Whats snapshottiny?

[twin token]

Snapshotting*

[graceful bramble]

Am i missing another core mechanic? lol

[twin token]

Do u know what snapshotting is in general?

[little pagoda]

Kind of a grey area between core mechanic and exploit tbh

[twin token]

It's basically equipping a bonus and then removing it while keeping the bonus

[graceful bramble]

Not a single clue tbh

[twin token]

So for example u can snapshot card drop rate cards

[heavy moth]

greenstack ?

[paper sail]

I've always considered snapshotting an explot but it has been around for years now

[graceful bramble]

Since we are talking about it, it;s not bannable?

[little pagoda]

I only snapshot hp and cards, don't know what else can be snapshotted

[twin token]

By equipping them and then changing preset u can keep the card drop rate bonus

[twin token]

Nope not in the slightest

[graceful bramble]

o.o

[little pagoda]

No, he would've fixed it by now if he didn't want it being possible

[twin token]

Yeah then you can equip dr cards to get even more cards

But it resets when u change map

[graceful bramble]

is there a guidde for it?

[twin token]

U don't need a guide tbh

[little pagoda]

Removing card snapshotting would fuck over non endgamers though, since everyone already used it to farm their ruby cards

[twin token]

Just know snapshotting will stop working when u change map or refresh

It also works in reverse

So if u have dr cards and u swap to cdr it won't take effect till u reload map

[little pagoda]

Honestly at this point he might just introduce some new bonus making card drop rate cards passive if he removes card snapshotting

[paper sail]

That's the super annoying part to me. I wasted so much time in the early few months because of this 😢

[twin token]

He did that for the reg and chaotic chizoar cards too bc you could just snapshot them

[graceful bramble]

So i equip CDR cards and then change to a card preset with DR, I will have both bonuses?

[twin token]

Yes

But the order is equip cards reload map then swap to dr

[little pagoda]

Makes sense

[graceful bramble]

reload map as in change server?

[modern plaza]

would be cool if royal sampler just gave you a multiplier on the printer then 😄

[twin token]

For sampling its a bit different

[twin token]

Change map and come back or open gemshop and leave gemshop

[graceful bramble]

I see

[graceful bramble]

I assume it involves alchemy bubbles? idk tbh

[twin token]

Yes

The snapshot uses hearty Digby and hocus choppus which give chopping/Mining eff per power of ten hp/mp

[graceful bramble]

If i have the pet that enables all bubbles it's as if i am snapshotting already right?

[twin token]

No they aren't big bubbles

They're passive bubbles

[graceful bramble]

Ah

[twin token]

Basically what happens is u equip ur best gear that gives rhe most stats bc it'll give more mp/hp

Also works for cards and starsigns

Then u quick ref alch and exit then swap back to all ur skillibg gear/cards/starsigns

[muted bramble]

what should i invest in for shimmer island

[graceful bramble]

do i have to go into gemshop and exit it too?

[twin token]

No just quick ref alch

Going into gemshop will reset it

Only other thing I know is snapshottable are construction obols

[graceful bramble]

I will try this one rn

[twin token]

Not worth imo

Bc it's only 1-2% gains on prints

[graceful bramble]

Ah, I was thinking of a huge boost tbh lol

[twin token]

Yeah it's not that big

[paper sail]

Worship charge rate big bubble, if no sheepie companion

[little hazel]

I am up to the 9th divinity... do you guys wait for the 100% sacrafice or just yolo

[zinc torrent]

anyone else got their 3d printer switching between purple and star/orange? Its bugging the hell out. I hope it doesnt affect prints haha.

[gentle anchor]

im smithing 54 i need to be smithing 59 what is the most eff way?

[twin token]

Wait what

How do u snapshot this?

[paper sail]

Exact same. Equip before going into map, change after.

[twin token]

Make a bunch of soluble gum

[twin token]

Oh doesn't sound worth

[gentle anchor]

ok

[little pagoda]

I heard for mining it's much higher than that with enough hearty diggy investment, is it really only 2%?

[twin token]

Haven't tested myself but that's just what I heard

[paper sail]

Value kinda in the eye of the sampler

[little pagoda]

Just fot those from 9 doot kill, what should I use them for?

[little hazel]

Definitely take them into the wilderness.

[muted bramble]

so nothing specific i take it ?

[little pagoda]

lmaooo

[paper sail]

This is it

[twin token]

Only make one and just swap between charachters

[little pagoda]

I like this helmet, have 1 on DK and 1 on ES, but I hate how it makes impossible to tell which character is which in lab and other places where mugshot is used

[paper sail]

Make at least 2 lol

[twin token]

Bc it uses 3 eyes its basically like paying 27 gems for the hat

[graceful bramble]

I do appreciate a osrs reference when i see one

[little pagoda]

Oh true might use them for this

[twin token]

Oh yeah I forgot abt that

[little hazel]

meet me in the wildy for more

[trail geode]

can anyone confirm if time candy can be used in w5? cant find anything about that on the wiki

[twin token]

Oh 3 then

[twin token]

Can't be used in w5 or rift

[paper sail]

Not in the CURRENT highest world, no

[signal osprey]

Those legs are also used for a jewel purchase too assuming you dont already have them all

[trail geode]

ty

[signal osprey]

And assuming it comes into rotation any time soon

[graceful bramble]

Do i bring my tbow? kappa

[trail geode]

ty

[little hazel]

just bring bank, ill double it and throw in a gf

[little pagoda]

OSRS is a spin off and I will die on this hill, this is a runescape reference not an OSRS reference

[signal osprey]

How can the original be a spin off?

[little pagoda]

That's the thing, it's not the original

[little hazel]

We are entering beyblades territory

[little pagoda]

My runescape character is on RS3 not OSRS and I played him for 10+ years

[signal osprey]

All that proves is that sometimes devs can make shitty decisions

Look at companions for example

[little pagoda]

Mind you I quit years ago

[modern plaza]

whoa whoa, dont call EOC runescape

[graceful bramble]

I prefer to pretend that RS3 doesn't exist and that OSRS is just Runescape, it gives me peace of mind

Btw leagues 4 coming at the end of 2023, hype train

[paper sail]

I hated the change to RS2 bad enough. I quit before Rs3

[little pagoda]

I played runescape from 2004 to 2020 on the same account so for me RS3 is runescape

[little hazel]

sea shanty 2006 math class. Nothing else matters. Except other stuff.

[paper sail]

I quit before you even started lmao

[modern plaza]

so many horrible things happened in life around 2007-2008... even the housing market crashed lol

[little pagoda]

Well I was 11 years old so I did my best lol

[graceful bramble]

Going to the school library to "investigate" how to kill dracule as a f2p noob, good times

[modern plaza]

EOC, WoW cata, housing bubble lol

[little pagoda]

The only thing I disliked from EOC release was it made my outfit ugly, everything else I didn't dislike

[little hazel]

Need to read the plain text http websites for that knowledge

[graceful bramble]

I cann't still not believe i didn't buy a house insteadd of going to math class when that happened, now i am fked facepalm

[paper sail]

Christ, I really wish my ES would stop casting Chainbolt after Efaunt dies 😦 Really screwing up my timing

[amber dagger]

YEAH YOU CAN TELL EVERYBODY YEAH YOU CAN TELL EVERYBODYYY GO AHEAD AND TELL EVERYBODY IM THE MAN IM THE MAN IM THE MAN🗣🗣🗣🕺🕺🕺🕺

[little pagoda]

niceeee

[modern plaza]

there's a new bubble that's almost 2x worse than that one right now. it's gonna be HUGE

[graceful bramble]

Fk you and congratz

[little hazel]

ooooooof

[little pagoda]

I'm still missing doot and only doot

[graceful bramble]

Which one? there are so many rn lol

[amber dagger]

I'm missing the storage chest ram

[paper sail]

Doot and Slug 😦

[little pagoda]

tier 4 treat too, must be nice

I think at this point it's fair to say I got unlucky

[little hazel]

Look the best I can do is 7 free untradable frogs for your doot.

[graceful bramble]

I can give you 5 for Doot, deal?

[paper sail]

Would anyone care for my 8-in-a-row free Moltis?

[amber dagger]

I cant trade doot maybe if I spend a bunch of money and get doot again I'll trade you

[graceful bramble]

I am at t5 and still getting frogs and beans, just as god intended

[amber dagger]

Nah fr I've almost gotten doot so many times

[little pagoda]

At tier 5 treat multi is the lowest rarity you can get so not that crazy

[graceful bramble]

Damm, i am saving this comment and chasing you with it from now on lol

[paper sail]

I'm not t5

[amber dagger]

😂nah bc I will trade you if I get it again

[graceful bramble]

wdym? You have seen Doot munching on the canddy and not getting it?

[little pagoda]

I only rolled 2 slugs, so if my 2nd slug went 1 more tier up to doot I would be done, but no such luck

[modern plaza]

can't wait for player housing in idleon, gonna be lit

[amber dagger]

Nah like it stops on the slug like 10 times

[little pagoda]

I don't think that's possible, after you see one you either get it or go up 1 rarity

[graceful bramble]

Ah i see, i have not even gotten to the slug

[graceful bramble]

Imagine if it went from Doot back to frog

[little pagoda]

Would hurt

[amber dagger]

Nah that'd be awful 😭

[graceful bramble]

for the lolz

[amber dagger]

I fr thought I'd get bored bean again

[little pagoda]

I'm hoping for more cheap green crystals, don't wanna pay regular price

[graceful bramble]

I am waiting for Lava to add more bundles with green gems in it, buying green gems directly is so expensive

[amber dagger]

I bought one bundle and got like nothing for the green gems other than getting my tier up

[little pagoda]

Yeah that's the one thing I think there should be more of, makes doot kinda not that crazy (but still costs more than a full priced game on steam)

[graceful bramble]

yup

I wonder what other pets Lava will come up with

Like, what kind of effect will the next Doot have

[little pagoda]

Hopefully before he does that he makes doot easier lol

[graceful bramble]

Even lowering the pity is good enough

How much is the pity atm? 500?

[little pagoda]

200

If it was 100 I would probably just say fuck it and go for it

[graceful bramble]

same

[little pagoda]

Damnnn I finally reached teehee 15 in idle skilling

I can quit the game now

Idle skilling that is

[little hazel]

Okay I just leanred how to share my profile. Can u guys give me some hard advice. Cause I have just been like idleing. https://pastebin.com/xm736YWw

[paper sail]

I never uninstalled so fast

[safe harness]

what sent you over edge dmg wise, i still lacking dmg for teehee 3

[little pagoda]

lol that game does burn you out from all the grinding you need to do towards the end

[safe harness]

did you complete all the construction potions?

[paper sail]

That midgame is just a drag. I hated IS compared to IO

[little pagoda]

Optimized cards, potions, and generally tunnel bonuses

Second tier of smithing from tunnels gives a looot of base damage

I still have like 2 tiers of potions to unlock so tunnels could do it alone I think

[safe harness]

im there, the final set of potion is too much brewing to level right now...i think i need more tunnel upgrades

[little pagoda]

The first and second potions from the next tier I still can't unlock would multiply my damage so much

[little pagoda]

There's a brewing speed upgrade from tunnels

[little hazel]

I played idle skilling for the event, and messed up the code transition. Like, you needed to paste it from game to game before getting the next code. But like, I got to the second code before using the first and uninstalled lol

[little pagoda]

I've been at teehee 3 doing quuintillions of kills for many many days

[safe harness]

yeah, its level 1 for me atm...got to level more...have to figure out what to use 1500 gems on to have most impact

[little pagoda]

But I finally got enough damage for teehee 4, a few trillion per hour, so if I just idle on teehee 4 for a few hours I will reach teehee 15 now

[little pagoda]

Get 1 spelunker for sure

1 cauldron

gem portal if you haven't yet

[safe harness]

thats where i got the 1500

ill try cauldron

[little pagoda]

yeah so 1 premium spelunker is worth it for sure

cauldron helps a lot with high tier potions

Do quick extracts with the 1 spelunker and optimize all tunnel upgrades

[safe harness]

one of the potion from last set is huge brew increase...might be able to level using cauldron

[little pagoda]

1 premium builder too

You absolutely need 1 iodized builder

[paper sail]

When you reach the second code, you should have the option to change your IdleOn name. Set it back to your correct name and it will start spitting out codes from the start again

[little pagoda]

Because one of the smithing upgrades only upgrades iodized builders

[safe harness]

yeah, have that too

might get aother builder and cauldron i think

[little pagoda]

DOn't think 2 builders is worth but it's not terrible

[little hazel]

Where were you months ago.. haha the passion is spent now :p

[little pagoda]

Also get the shiny vat in lab

To push lab a bit

[paper sail]

Cloudsave, then pop a candy on combat Trust

[little pagoda]

trueee

I might have a couple candies from the AP perk

[paper sail]

For some reason, normal offline attacks are limited to just the +11 enemies or whatever but time candies are not.

[little pagoda]

wait what do you mean

Let me try that

[paper sail]

Cloudsave first!

[little pagoda]

I didn't lol

But I only used the tier 1 candy

[paper sail]

IS candies give offline time since last cloudsave. If you play for hours and then time candy, you lose progress lmfao

[little pagoda]

Got me 449b kill on teehee 14 and I think I have a 24 hr candy

Should be enough

[little pagoda]

wtf lol

[paper sail]

IS is a pile of garbage man. I hated every second of it

[little pagoda]

idk if I lost progress but I don't think so

[paper sail]

I know IS walked so than IdleOn could run but I remember playing it before IO came out and having so much distrust for IO

[little pagoda]

I probably have enough upgrades to get that I won't even need candy for this, hold on

Just unlocked a new vat in lab

No damage upgrades, sadge

But h20 away gains though...

Might candy for h2o levels

[paper sail]

You do need to clear teehee15 btw, if you didn't know. You actually have to REACH 16

[dreamy spruce]

how big of an increase is IS trophy? the more I hear about IS the less I wanna bother doing it

[little pagoda]

It says reach teehee 15? What

[paper sail]

Pretty significant compared to alternatives

[dreamy spruce]

[paper sail]

Nobody was more upset than me lol. Yes, you need to see teehee16 before the code will be given out

[little pagoda]

Well it's fine, I can only claim in like a week anyway

Just claimed my 750 arcade ballws

[paper sail]

Enjoy your 100 gems and 4 golden meat pies

[little pagoda]

lol something like that

[little pagoda]

It's not that bad, it's kinda fun

I do consider maybe keep grinding on idle skilling, MAYBE

[paper sail]

You'll break your save in some irreparable way if you keep playing much later than teehee16

[little pagoda]

I still have so much stuff to unlock it's probably not gonna be hard to get to that point

[paper sail]

Damage so high it overflows and you deal 0s, same with literally every skills rates. I couldn't grow crops or brew potions because my speed was too high

[little pagoda]

I have like... a looooot optimizations I could do

[torn lagoon]

I've got about 70 days of candy time, anything in particular I should focus using them on? A bunch will be used to push up my lab rats, and the others will probably used to push maestro skills up. Anything else I'm missing thats important?

[paper sail]

BB Super CHOWs, Deathnote Eclipse Skulls

[torn lagoon]

oh shit chow i spaced on that. yup good call

[paper sail]

The fact that you said Maestro instead of Vman is also a concern lol

[torn lagoon]

yeah, I mean I'm not that far in to w5 really, still barely mid game I'd say lol

and by barely, I mean I'd still consider myself early lol

[oblique mantle]

Took me till 140 before I got doot. Hoping any future additions are like 100 at most for the pity

[little pagoda]

That's miserable, I hope I get it sooner lol

[oblique mantle]

It was many many moltis and frogs. 💀

[torn lagoon]

I wish we could trade gems for green gems, or get gems from recycling free pets

[paper sail]

That would defeat the entire point of the Green Gems, from Lava's perspective

[little pagoda]

I think the latter is reasonable but the first is never gonna happen

[oblique mantle]

Agreed

[torn lagoon]

I figured, but a man can dream

[oblique mantle]

If I unlock a divinity on one character it is unlocked on all right?

[dapper prism]

Thing is, that would still defeat the purpose

[little pagoda]

yeah gods are account bound not character bound

[dapper prism]

Coulda just made them drop scarcely from w5 boss, or maybe implement it in w6. add a mechanic that makes 2x companion rolls a week or other things like that

[paper sail]

Unless you make them Nightmare only and like worse than Cape odds, that's still farmable

[dapper prism]

At the cost of gems vs draws, that wouldnt even net you 1 roll in a year

[gentle anchor]

is there another way too i dont have any waters to spare

[twin token]

Nothing worth really

[paper sail]

We out, bye bye Efaunt

[dapper prism]

farm them in w3

[gentle anchor]

i need 1.5 more smithing lvls

[twin token]

Do u have any chiz keys?

[gentle anchor]

nah yesterday used them all

[twin token]

Chiz usually drops like 2 distilled water every kill

Rip

[prisma drift]

I watched the poor guy die

[gentle anchor]

ill just do treath

[thin kernel]

that moment when you farming neck and the cape drop.. so now i only need like 4 more "quest" til im done XD i fear when its my vmans tune :/

[short gale]

What is the ideal vman skill allocation

[paper sail]

Ideal? Max everything

[dreamy spruce]

haha noob

[short gale]

if only i had 4500 skill points

[thin kernel]

you will get to it 😉

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[paper sail]

39b exp over ~41 hours. I'll take it. 96 -> 105

[dreamy spruce]

damn thats a lot of exp

from 96 to what level did you go?

[dapper prism]

Your card rate seems really low though?

[glacial venture]

is 50 giants max that counts for weekly shimmering?

[paper sail]

[prisma drift]

Vman worse for cards than BB

[gentle anchor]

what mob best to farm for distiled water?

[dapper prism]

(for fishing)

[twin token]

Sheepie

[dapper prism]

But still, getting about 1 card/h on my vman

[gentle anchor]

alright

[prisma drift]

I seen that was your 7th char so I figured that was why your card drops were “low”

Still a lot better than my vman card drops

[dapper prism]

Few more hours to go!
https://i.imgur.com/jJfhnQi.png

[thorn marsh]

is it bubbles or meals that really pop off your dmg?

I'm at 500mil, but I see alot of ppl with like 500 gazillionbillionchwillion

[paper sail]

It is everything, everywhere, together, all at once

[dapper prism]

Mainly bubbles, although meals is the one that helps with accuracy/crit chance for mega crit. Stamps also add up.

How are you lvl 551 with 500m dmg. you boost all your white pearls into 1 char?

[thorn marsh]

crit and accuracy are mighty fine, it's just flat dmg missing

"almost"

[paper sail]

My highest is 530 and I'm almost 2T damage

So you're skipping more than me lol

[dapper prism]

Also are you sure you mean 500m and not 500b?

[dapper prism]

I have a 534 DK, could pearl him to 550 but no point rn.
Also all my alts are around 1-3+ tril

[thorn marsh]

"almost"

[paper sail]

6k wis

[thorn marsh]

gotta get more wis?

i never really min maxed, I just played it and did whatever came to me

[dapper prism]

You got W5 bubbles unlocked?

and Artifacts?

[glacial venture]

low crit chance

very far away from 200%

[thorn marsh]

ya, only missing last 2 bubbles on three cauldrons

[dreamy spruce]

go cc then

[dapper prism]

VIP book, overaccurated crit will turn Acc into more crit so Mega crit becomes a guaranteee

[dreamy spruce]

last bubble is big damage

[dapper prism]

Last 2 is a big deal..

[glacial venture]

how tf can you be lvl 551 with any char and missing bubbles?

[dapper prism]

Also what's your GT ?

[paper sail]

Their name is a lie

[thorn marsh]

it says "ALMOST" you muppets 😛 it's a joke to piss off kralan

[dapper prism]

Eh.. almost would imply your 550ish

[thorn marsh]

that's your take on it

aren't we all almost 551 when it comes to it?

[dapper prism]

Eh, hate troll names like that

[glacial venture]

can someone answer my question from earlier? is shimmering island weekly maxed at 50 giants?

[dapper prism]

If its 40x shimmers, then yes afaik. Wiki should have some of that info

[glacial venture]

1.4

[thorn marsh]

you happy?

glad I didn't ruin your night there ❤️

[dapper prism]

Wouldn't just be my night, it's noon, nearly ruined my whole day!

[glacial venture]

didnt change from 50 giants since monday...but had several giants since then

[thorn marsh]

phew

thank god we avoided that

[paper sail]

From what I've heard others say, the shimmer trial doesn't count giants that don't increase your odds due to the big yellow bubble

No idea beyond that though. I haven't had that trial 🤷

[glacial venture]

still wouldnt explain it

since my odds changed since monday

but counted didnt

[dapper prism]

What's your shimmer reward?

[glacial venture]

15

[thin kernel]

know it came down to luck.. but no neck after like 35 nh kettel run but 5 oble and one cape XD

[paper sail]

I found 2 necks in 1k normal runs 🙂 RNG be like that

[dapper prism]

Got 2 obols on first 2 kills, cape on 8th kill. Another cape later on with a neck (bit dry).
Then I got 4 necks within about 10 nh kills.

rng be rng

[misty spindle]

with what drop rate?

[paper sail]

I went over 350 nightmare kills before my first cape, then second cape was after 3 more kills, third cape after 7 more. Shit happens

[dapper prism]

rng be rng, luck/dry streaks will happen either way

[misty spindle]

I guess so

[dapper prism]

But around 15-20x dr depending on alt

[barren otter]

you just described my exp with kattle capes lol

[thin kernel]

maybe i iwill try that.. = more gems to XD

[paper sail]

Yup. I've been working on finishing gem shop

So many normal runs that I fall asleep

[thin kernel]

you can never finish it.. Lava will make sure on that XD

[paper sail]

I'm getting pretty close on things that "matter" to me 🤷

[thin kernel]

thats good 😄

[dapper prism]

I don't have a little brother, nor would i want to risk getting one to help out. Normal runs are soooo time consuming xD

[paper sail]

I'm not buying all the cog slots, or all the obol slots, or dungeon tickets, etc.

I wish I could find a calculator to tell me how many more gems I need to max the shop. I don't wanna do the math myself

[glacial venture]

can you use candy on fishing island?

[paper sail]

All I've done for over a week now

[glacial venture]

cool...thx

[thin kernel]

go on wiki and use the one on you pc/mac/mobil?

[dreamy spruce]

still need to calculate it all

[paper sail]

Again, don't want to do the math myself

[thin kernel]

ohh XD

[dreamy spruce]

if only IE showed how many gems you still need :{

[paper sail]

So many annoying "x + y" incremental costs

[dreamy spruce]

or IT

[glacial venture]

can you use beach oysters in boss room?

[thin kernel]

yes

[paper sail]

Yep. Can also be used on Boops, Rift

[thin kernel]

just try and it works

well time to use the last keys for nm runs.. and then saved some for a few days and go monkey on normal kettle

only need like 5 more neck XD

i feel like the neck cant drop on nm XD

[grand karma]

hey guys, does anybody have the worship strategy guide?

[dreamy spruce]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[grand karma]

thanks a lot!

[unreal fox]

the best score people can get?

[dreamy spruce]

theres an achiev for 25k

[dapper prism]

Go to an empty server, to a mining area, nice and secluded. To mimimize your freeze frames that poing has

[jolly talon]

is it a terrible idea to put all my boats on one island until i get the last two ancient artifacts?

[dapper prism]

Typically yes (a bad idea). You always want your fastest boats to be on the highest islands that are still worth it, else you bottleneck your progress.
Only situation that may have been worth it was the above Pic, to grind out Ancient Tusk which increases sailing artifacts, but even then i wouldnt recommend that

[jolly talon]

ok, thanks, so should i just have my lowest boat on this island?

[dapper prism]

Depends as some may be situational on what your focus is.

• Like island 2 Genie Lamp could be more beneficial for the extra loot value
• The island 1's are "only" coins+total dmg, which is alright, but won't help sailing as much right now.
• VS compared to Island 4 for sailing speed artifact and dvinity gain artifact.

[vocal ibex]

Does the affects of card set for drop rate affect it offline also ?or is it only for playing actively

[dapper prism]

Drop rate affects both

[vocal ibex]

Amen thank you

[dapper prism]

Can also use the guaranteed drop calculator and see the difference

[vocal ibex]

All hail trickzbunny

Just got the amorak 1 in 100 drop. Used up all my keys bro it was fun I was scared towards the end I wasn't going go get it

1 in 1000

[dapper prism]

I need to do more amarok :/

[vocal ibex]

Gonna take vman to the sugma slime now. See ya tomorrow I'll get it by tonight

That recipe for the scarf

[dapper prism]

Scarf? Isn't suggma only Knuckles?

[twin aurora]

yes

[dapper prism]

I still havnt even gone for that grind, not worth it for now at least for me. Maybe soon though

[sick sentinel]

Can work on the vial/deathnote while doing it at least

[mystic pine]

Are kattlekrunk chestplate and legs worth it or should I stick with magma

[sick sentinel]

Took me like 3 and a half days of active to do it

[vocal ibex]

Wow I bet your like end gane end game too circ

[sick sentinel]

I think i had around 14 dr at the time, maybe just under 1T dmg

[dreamy spruce]

depends on what you want to do

worse for sampling at the very least

[mystic pine]

Well is it better for active afk ?

[sick sentinel]

Active magma, afk boss chest and legs

[mystic pine]

Ah so for afk chars I should get boss armor and for active I should stick with magma right ?

[sick sentinel]

Thats how i'm doing it

[mystic pine]

Alrighty Ty sir 🫡

[sick sentinel]

Eventually i may create multiple sets of each for some chars

[mystic pine]

Well gonna take a while to get everyone into magma/krunk gear anyways lmao

Struggling with nullo salts rn I’m leveling refinery

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[sick sentinel]

Its a grind for sure

[mystic pine]

Yeah especially when I ain’t able to kill nightmare krunk lmao way to weak for that

[dapper prism]

Make Magma for core chars then all.
Along the way having divine head/feet for DK/ES is good since they are your drop grinders anyways. and Divine chest/feet for SB gmush farmer asap (and/or BB if superchowing, helps a bunch)

But for the rest i only started making divines when i could have it as my 2ndery set. So i never need to worry about gear while sampling really

[dreamy spruce]

how much dmg do you have?

[mystic pine]

Ah Ty Ty

[mystic pine]

Hahaha not enough to farm Ckrunk efficiently im at around 600mil rn

[dapper prism]

86 to go 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/w4KIibn.png

[dreamy spruce]

how long did it take?

[barren otter]

69 super chows is a good place to stop yea?

[uncut bear]

Is it possible to lower cool down for Cranium cooking? And If Not why would I active bubo? 🤔

[tight basin]

Tenteyecle lowers cooldowns as well as a couple P.O. boxes

[uncut bear]

Ahh

[tight basin]

A big bubble in alchemy as well

[viral snow]

Also post office box for mana

[gentle anchor]

first troll peice lets go

[eager sedge]

Nicee

Boots?

[gentle anchor]

ye

[eager sedge]

congrats

Ill work on em after div jail haha

[uncut bear]

Ahhhh yes

[eager sedge]

and yes lvl 200 tentacleye

those 3 are the main cd reduction for cranium

[wary girder]

.

is it worth getting that box on bubo?

[viral snow]

yes

[wary girder]

aight done, been looking at how to lower bubo cd ty

[zinc torrent]

W5 TD please

[dapper prism]

Same doc for everything as usual:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

Alternative, W5 TD 130:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741696802666840167/1134165091332407387/image-53.png

[zinc torrent]

Thank you

[sharp vine]

How many infinite stars do you need via shinies to have them all?

[dapper prism]

Lvl 5 on all except lvl 6 on one

[sharp vine]

That's what I thought, so just one more shiny to go to finish

[dapper prism]

Lvl 6 on all guarantees the future of hydron stars to be unlucked too

[dreamy spruce]

damn thats a lot of krakens

[sharp vine]

Yeah I was considering going that far but I'd rather work on some other stuff beforehand, namely drop% and meal effects next I think

[gentle anchor]

are boss keys affected by multikill?

[dreamy spruce]

no

[dapper prism]

DR felt a bit minimal initially. Then again depends on your goals

[sharp vine]

I'm barely able to hit 7.0 on a couple characters, trying to at least hit that breakpoint on everyone since I dont feasibly see myself hitting the next big one for some time

[dreamy spruce]

farm your obols then

way more relevant than shinies

[dapper prism]

Money breakpoints are irrelevant on "everyone" only care about Bubo/DK (maybe es?)

[sharp vine]

Not too much to change here honestly? And then I have a full DR sheet to swap around for personals. Frog obols are just there to meme because I got them like two days in a row a while back

[weary crag]

where can i find the artifacts from sailing?

[dreamy spruce]

a lot to change there? literally 0 dice obols

[sharp vine]

Do you mean like a list of them?

[dreamy spruce]

well 2

[dapper prism]

from the island itself, best read the wiki for some basic info

[weary crag]

like what i got, as i got in the loot like 2, but it doesnt show in the list

it doesnt show in the loot pile i meant

[dapper prism]

It's right above the sailing charter map, on a pedestal. or you click the island on the charter map

[dreamy spruce]

are money obols a separate multi or not?

[dapper prism]

What do you mean?

[sharp vine]

No clue, dont particularly care about money rn though

[dreamy spruce]

if you get 100% from money obols, does that double your money gain or not

[weary crag]

o wow, missed that, too small, thx

[dapper prism]

No, money is more complicated, there's different groups

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rU1V21io6jkYNseBxZSAy9BK-B_t7TAlCDfMHNierSo/edit#gid=0

Different +% money are in different groups, added together then multiplied with one another

But then multiplied by your DR money breakpoint, being 5x, 7x, 9x etc.

[dreamy spruce]

ah I see

[charred panther]

anyone know how i can increase artifact chance ?

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1095251490186207252/dr_money_breakpoints.png

[dapper prism]

Get tusk on island one, get it ancient. Then mainly sailing lvls will affect it.

There's also shiny pet and captain trait, although for captains you usually want Speed + Loot value

You can also use idleon insight to find anything ingame that gives you something:
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=artifact

[dreamy spruce]

what obols does active bubo run when farming cc? dr?

[gentle anchor]

Is the death wish a good ring?

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/6b0c5a8a4e715e7022314b72e8d2a5c5.png

[dapper prism]

Emp ring is the way to go when you can afford it. Death has no stats, and boss dmg. Not sure how or why that would be good.

[gentle anchor]

ok bc its pretty hard to get i maybe thought its good

[charred panther]

tysm

[gentle anchor]

what is the emp ring i cant find it on the wiki

[dapper prism]

Could search by ring to see all rings...
The Emperor's Opal, the last ring on the list, from dungeons

[gentle anchor]

ok

its so expensive

[dapper prism]

If you do your weekly Dungeon runs and don't ignore it, shouldn't be too hard to get tbh.

[gentle anchor]

ok

[prisma drift]

Is time per ball capped to 30 minutes?

When I collect it always sets timer to 30 minutes

[barren otter]

mine says 24min per ball

but also resets to 30 mins when i claim

[misty spindle]

Does anyone have a spreadsheet for class xp level requirments?

[dapper prism]

Mind just be that the function when claiming it doesn't have a specific variable in it or something?
Easiest would just be set a timer for next ball time and check. But also your Max time math seems to be correct, as if it was 30min, x 109 balls => 3270min or 54.5h which would be a lot more

[dapper prism]

I have a non public calculator. What lvl range do you need?

[misty spindle]

from 114 to 150

[dapper prism]

24208281630.5

[misty spindle]

also do you mind sharing that calc?

[dapper prism]

Cant share this one yet until when/if i polish it all up

[misty spindle]

this is 24,2 billion right?

[dapper prism]

24 208 281 630.5

24.2b

[misty spindle]

yeah thanks dude

[dapper prism]

Let me know what your xp rate is and i can check hours

Remember, active xp can be an easy 20-200x faster than afk

[misty spindle]

Im not in a set map currently farming exp so I cant say it, but thanls

[misty spindle]

really? Didnt know that, is the afk tab still accurate then even if active?

[dapper prism]

Also card set for XP, can play around with dmg cards and change those to money, DR, or whatever really if the dmg isnt needed (bubo/dk)
https://i.imgur.com/jd1tS2e.png

[dapper prism]

No, AFK Info has nothing to do with active

Even if you have 100% afk gain

[misty spindle]

How do I check my xp gain then?

[dapper prism]

Set a timer, track it for 6 or 10 minutes,

Main reason active can be a ton more is because crystals (30x XP) don't spawn afk

[opaque sun]

manually check before/after is like the only thing

[misty spindle]

yeah but if you cant kill them it doesnt matter

[opaque sun]

depends on the thing, but active roughly does like 10-20x more of afk

[dapper prism]

248 449 264.8 XP for 114 to 115 (since the dsisplay only shows rounded values you could more easily track it based on %

[dapper prism]

My best tracked thing was Active Bubo, lvl 300 to 352
AFK Info: 35+ days (840+ hours)
Active: 4h 8min
(210x faster active vs afk)

[misty spindle]

daaaaaamn duuuude

[dapper prism]

(obviously a ton of variables to that, my results wont be your results)

[misty spindle]

but thats cheating, I mean its bubo cmon

[opaque sun]

yeah, of course like respawn mechanics further boosts that descrepancy

[dapper prism]

Feel like my dk* has been even better tbh

Bubo still lvl 500, DK already 532+

[misty spindle]

youre too far from me to even understand how but Im trying to get vman so at least I have a trophy

[dapper prism]

Remember:
Get Fury+ for Talents 200+ for Tente (bubo CC).
Level up liquid cauldrons a while for better rates, then you can start tossing stuff into GT (XP bubble)
(more stuff to this, like PO boxes, etc)

[misty spindle]

active with maestro seems awesome cuz of the crystal chance

[dapper prism]

Took me 3 days of active on BM from around 430ish to 450... (tried BB but quit after a few hours of basically 0 xp) xD

[opaque sun]

it is, but still its like mid tier in terms of active classes

[misty spindle]

yeah goat god first tho

[gentle anchor]

lets go i did 1B dmg

[opaque sun]

mman also lacks the clearing speed to make any use of respawn talent even if it had one

[dapper prism]

Also at least with vman (mman) you can get the XP reduction per skill maxed and switch every now and then.

[misty spindle]

yeah thats the best part honestly

[dapper prism]

Yay finally done! 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/fSf1RDK.png

[pearl cedar]

Half way there

[fast grail]

What is your quick slap up to now?

[pearl cedar]

3224

[signal crypt]

Where do we get the shimmer multi?

[iron mesa]

When you hit 10 shimmers breakpoint

[twin token]

Why does vman enhancement not show sleepin on the jobs enhancement

[iron mesa]

How many points invested

[signal crypt]

Ah, so it's per challenge?

[twin token]

Into sleeping on the job or enhancement

[iron mesa]

Enhancement, ofc

[twin token]

100

[iron mesa]

Strange, try go to Gem Shop and leave it

[iron mesa]

Wdym

[twin token]

K

Still nothing

I'll go to a tree and see what afk is before and after

[signal crypt]

The weekly challenge like getting as much crit chance as possible or getting the highest possible dps

[twin token]

Ok it works

[iron mesa]

And

[twin token]

Also shows it now

[iron mesa]

Yeah, I mean, theres Trials in Shimmer Island

[twin token]

Ig I need one point Invested

[dapper prism]

Trial isn't 2 different options

[iron mesa]

When you hit required (DPS, Crit, MS, whatever) for 10 shimmers, multiplier will appear

[clear topaz]

does candy work on gaming and sailing?

[iron mesa]

No

Hitting last point on that bar, yeah

[vestal yew]

does anyone have the google excel guide sheet? Its seemed to have disappeared

[iron mesa]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vS626Mhng99UTh_CkACdZZWX21XkeN8XfhZHBK6WmRwLY1_0Ymeb6h6fg3TwLhV04CMjkwsybuuXEXb/pubhtml#

[little pagoda]

Anybody knows what's happening here?

[dapper prism]

Nope, i still need to wait around 28ish days till i can claim the last few rewards 😦

[little pagoda]

The game for some reason doesn't recognize I beat teehee 15, even lord's lair torch won't light

[dapper prism]

Youve cloudsaved, restarted game, ctrl R to refresh etc?

[eager willow]

try going back to teehee 16 then go to the reward screen? I had the same thing and that did it for me for some reason

[dapper prism]

Also, you killed tehee 15 on active right? not in afk ?

[little pagoda]

I can't actually kill teehe 15 lol

[dapper prism]

Yeh so you havnt killed him

[serene solstice]

you need to kill him once

[dapper prism]

Same as keys..

[serene solstice]

and that active

[little pagoda]

so eviscerate doesn't actually help?

[serene solstice]

nope

[dapper prism]

You can easily get millions of kills afk on key (next zone mobs) while doing ice cream, but if you dont kill him active, u wont get a key type of thing that i assume for tehee

[little pagoda]

then why the hell does everyone say it does

[fast grail]

That is untrue, eviscerate absolutely counts.

[little pagoda]

In any case, the thing says reach teehee 15 not defeat it lol

[dapper prism]

Wording has not been much of a thing you should ever believe in.

[fast grail]

I couldnt kill past like tehee 4 but with eviscerate got it to 16

[clear topaz]

Not sure what you mean? Fill upp afk%

[little pagoda]

Well I'm in teehee 17 so not that

[eager willow]

yea unless it changed I did mine with eviscerate + the extra kill potion. I never actually killed 15 myself but made it to 17 as well

[little pagoda]

I think it MIGHT have changed but why?

[dapper prism]

thats not how it works

[little pagoda]

Did you do it pre realm update?

[dapper prism]

5min proc is 5min skip.

[eager willow]

yea I did it pre-realm so maybe realm changed it, dunno

[little pagoda]

Yeah I think it did actually

[dapper prism]

even if it displays 1h, it's still only 5min, there's no minute displays thats why

@unique lagoon

[little pagoda]

So what, does that mean I need to grind for probably a few more weeks? What the hell dude

[eager willow]

have you tried going back to 15 checking the code screen, then 16 checking the code screen? dunno what else to tell ya if that doesn't work

[dapper prism]

Doubt anything was changed, that game isnt touched in any way nowdays

[twin token]

Imagine 10 Omni but 5 minutes = 1 hour proc

[little pagoda]

I tried that but nothing, changed let me try again

[twin token]

That would be broken

[dapper prism]

Also, dont even need 5min, min afk time needed to get a proc is 2min logins, or technically 121s.

[little pagoda]

Ohh

[twin token]

Even better lol

[little pagoda]

Actually going to teehee 16 and then checking the code worked

Ok now to wait for the claim days, I think it's only like 8 days

[clear quartz]

so glad im done with that crossover event

[eager willow]

yea I think what happened is it starts counting the monsters from 0 even though it starts at 1 so thats why I said try 16 first

because that's what triggered it for me as well

[dapper prism]

What's the main thing to prep/do for Tehee?

[fast grail]

[little pagoda]

Late game it's basically lab + tunnels + potions

[clear quartz]

^

[dapper prism]

You refreshing that page every hour? xD

[clear quartz]

and make sure the asylum xtra kills deep thing is maxed

and double dip with the pink potion mop thing

[dapper prism]

Okay, been hard focusing exactly those 3 atm xD.
Did a reset run to max brew perks etc.

[little pagoda]

I think it caps at +10 btw

[fast grail]

just so happened to pull up steamdb since i wanted to check when idle skilling last got an update and saw it before i searched for IS

[little pagoda]

Actually maybe not 10, maybe it's like 11 or so, idk

[dapper prism]

Onyx chisel #soon? 😄

[clear topaz]

oh nice. I got on of these yesterday

[little pagoda]

I killed teehee 4 and unlocked 17 somehow so there's that

[clear quartz]

normally yes, but you can get it to more if you disconenct the game while idle in that room

[little pagoda]

Just used a time candy on teehee 4 as soon as it reached a trillion kills per hour

[fast grail]

Cap is 10, but time candy allows you to bypass the cap

[little pagoda]

Yeah I'm starting to think that's how it works lol

[clear quartz]

so i only had to be able to get kills in tehee 2 and it coulnted all the way forward