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Wear the Stat obols until you have better options.
then start worrying about stat obols
Is there a way to farm those pop/dice obol ? cause i think i got few silver squarre and like 2 pop bronze x)
pop active on ES at gigafrog, dice active on DK at snelbies / sandy pots
Oh let's go Journey man rank !
I'd go pop first, especially if you dont have chocolate chip
The obols I would only consider leveling for +slab count (otherwise trash them) are: Base Damage (the sword), XP, Defense, Money, Card Drop, Multikill
Hum I think it would b a bity too advance for now, blue chips are the ones i can buy at most now (is ther a way to get more chips per week then the weekly reset ?) So I guess I'll go farm on ES and DK ! (Shoudl I wait for them to reach lv.40 deity before ? (got 8 char on goat to be lab slave + divity)
And I see, so for now I can frag them guess (Scoli mentionned ones)
you can buy them from gemshop, thats about it
fragments you also farm at snelbies / sand pots on dk
riperino for the gems :c
and by frag you mean directly or because useless obols drop at the same time ?
more than half way an hour in.
it just drops the most obols which you can salvage, they dont drop by themselves
Alright I guess it's will be time to farm ! Thanks a lot @dreamy spruce & @paper sail for the answers, really helpful π !
gl farming
How do i push to megacrits
I might be wrong but by increasing your accuracy and this talent
5th special star talent in librairy (125% VIP)
i got a lot of time candy (6OO+ hours worth) and i rlly dont know what to do with it anyone sugestions?
Skilling cards and splicing
Or chow
to get cards?
ow ye very good idea
didnt think of that
and all my char are at end w4 and w5 u cant candy
Griffybit has a guide on it. Since that video vman talent that boosts statues has also been added
so if i were to have 2 BBs and both had 3 super chows, would it be addative so 1.3+1.3 for 1.6 for all chars, multiplicitivly so 1.3*1.3 for 1.69 or just take the best so it would be 1.3
It takes the best. And only works with second bb
So you need to do the kills eith second bb. First bb kills wont count
that kinda sucks, esspecially since #1 was the one who i finished apoca chowing all worlds (exluding the boops) so its more work for me to get #2
thanks for the info
you can just start playing exclusively mobile, there the 1st bb counts
the higher the dna splicer the higher the splices?
Anybody know why this is happening? I have one es linked on arctis and 2nd linked on hare but prints show 3x. My 2nd es is on div altar linked to Omni with hare 2nd link and its showing 2x prints.
if youve only done the 1m kills chow it wont really matter which one you use, 99 or 100m is basically the same
i dont got the second splicer unlocked the recipe
should be showing 3x on 2nd ES
W2 pincer is where you can drop it
And it should be showing 6x on first es
yep
ye buts its rlly rare
but it has visual bug sometimes
its not that rare compared to a lot of other things
even w3 splicer has half the dr if I remember right
should go pretty fast on ES
1 in 333,333 chance on wiki, if you can superchow some stuff you should be able to get fairly easily
It's only visual?
Yeah, you can check IT tho if you wanna know for sure
If you use idleon toolbox you can hold over your prints to see what buffs it has active. I would reccomend trying that
Oh what on it shows me
Or IE
Oh ok
The amount you print
Hm ok
Now I'm looking how many prints do u think I should have when I unlock atom collider
does anyone know what the fish skeleton stamp from trash island do?
Apoca chow so 10M, I get what you mean tho
It's fishing eff per level
Chows are 1m
I had about 1m oak sample when I unlocked it
hmm wondering if its good for a new char
Not sure tbh
NVM I'm dumb I was thinking zow is 1M and chow is 10M
Probably bc fishing eff is kinda rough early
My b
Ye better than ie which is ironic
I'll go for it now then
Unlocked being finished
60h
Yeah so shouldn't be too bad
So yeah not too long
Will be even faster if I get trimmed slot from jewel gamba
optimal use of colosseum tickets?
is 30b enough maestro dmg to do nightmare kattlekruk
prob about a 30 min fight or so with that damage, but doable yes
congratz @dapper prism for that kill last boss on all characters. dedication right there
what are the best ways to boost vman dmg, other than gettin skills up is something i cant rush rn (lowest is trapping at 87)
Letβs goooo 
Base damage bubbles, name i guess and quick slap
finaly gonna use some candies for gmush
Holy
Pearl?
i was O.6 sec away from killing efaunt in my speedrun im not kidding
his head had 3.2m hp left (chaotic) and i can 2 shot the boss
i didnt 97m the first hi
How is your damage so big at these stats...?
Other multipliers; eclipse skulls, greenstacks, alchemy
hey lads im not sure where to ask this so imma ask the nerds but for the shimmer trial is it only on one class?
I've been playing since before w3s launch and still no lucky lads. What else can I even do
Account wide for that week
But how
Idefk
I thought it'd happen by now, but nope.
It has to happen any day now
Do you not play active at all?
I do, I have atleast 200 hours active
ES active should be good
how to increase ur agility as a mage? not voidwalkers talent
are there other ways?
I mean just put as much DR on your DK and set em active at beans for a bit
How much ya need?
Typically bubbles give enough acc
I used to struggle then I revamped bubbles
And tf you mean by mage
Did you not get a sub class
I get plenty from most passives
cause i have the max hp one and it doesnt appear to be updating when i go on another character only the like 15k hp my voidwalker has
Bubbles, statues, food, vman, armor, special hats and rings, rings, dungeon passives, star talents, and so, so many more
Did bro just die
2 DK is really good right?
Iirc it is the best choice for dupes
can someone dumb this down for me? does this mean the samples i'm printing increases per day it just doesnt show in printer? like if im printing 10 logs it will print 11 logs instead when its has 10% bonus?
Every day you print more
whats the best class to rush thru w4
Blood Berserker
bet
and whats the second cuz ima do it on 2 at once in case i have to use one to grind later on
is there a general suggestion of what to spend trash on? is rush bribe then get some trash drop increases?
Probably DK, or if you active ES
U print 2% more everyday for 40 days which means in total u can achieve 80%more print output. For example, if u print 100k oak, next day with 2% u get 102k so if u wait 40 days u get 180k because u have 80% bonus print output
ohhhhh ok tnx!
do you have to be doing divinity for the link bonus to work?
No, just linked to them on that charecter
in Cranium cooking does it also give alchemy exp? if yes is it all character or only on bubo?
If I've read right it gives xp to all
tnx
is the lotto skills +luck bubble total luck, or base luck? its the only 1 of the 4 stat bubbles which doesn't specify "total"
It should be total
Finally broke down and did a somewhat serious resample and finally broke 100m on copper and logs
Gg
is this a new map? sky kilroy
hey all looking for a late game guild, 4k total level if anybody has space. guild recruit channel kinda dead
what is the music note thing
sailing treasure
oh god
its the rare drop of island 14
ITS SO OVER
im now too ahead in alchemy
i cant upgrade the bubbles
π
its fine lol, if that's what you think, stop unlocking bubbles and instead level the cauldron stats
level them up
just unlock all of the bubbles so you can put your characters in sigils
Do I need to know how sigils work for end game content
ahh okok
cus i almost have the last mage bubble, and im on island 7 in sailing
so..
putting chars for levelling up sigils ain't worth unless you have all cauldron stats at level 170 (max)
anyway, having the cauldrons maxed will benefit you way more than sigils, also you'll be ready for W6 bubbles whenever they come
i literally have 0 chars on sigils right now lol
Yeah sigils aren't worth for how long they take
extra speed becomes a burden and not a benefit for weak players
but yeah, they are good bonuses, but not worth the amount of time they take
just max cauldron first, then you literally have nothing else to do, besides sigils and the liquid
Do I really need to max cauldrons before sigils because like, this is just gonna take awhile at this point no matter what
only one maybe worth maxing is cost but later on you will just atom everything so it's really w/e
imo, just start sigils
first tier is relatively quick to unlock, it's the second level that takes months
Yeah, I have like one guy working on sigils and he's on the pipe gauge sigil you showed, which feels like super important to get all the nullo salts to make the magma core gear and all
yeah you need 92k nullo i think for 10 sets of troll
not to mention 10k nullo for 1 dread skull
the drop rate is big too
5k nullo for the diabolical gauntlet in anvil 4 and I have two vmen so like
Which ax multi here ?
I've literally just been doing my own thing until like I was halfway to kattlekruk, just trying to figure out how to run my idling cleaner now
2 vmen is rough since a they dont have very good mob farming potential
most of your progress will come from active play anyways
but you need to beat nightmare kruk on 10 characters to unlock divine scarf
so you're gonna need to beat nightmare kruk on both vmen lol
hope you like skilling
ah geez, I'll figure it out I'm sure, thanks for the sigil advice, swapping folk over now to get pipe gauge
np, sigils are a pain in the ass but they have really good bonuses
It would be nice having double the printer skill and more mob prints for faster hourly clicks
yeah double printer is nice
but getting two vman to that stage will be rough haha
More work for sure yeah lol
whats this slot for?
its for nametags, such as the nametags my two vmen get for being vmen
Should have it somewhere, its the quest reward for getting vman
does it frop on the floor when you complete it?
Do i pluck these plants now or do I wait for them to grow into their bigger forms?
you have to talk to the quest npc again after you receive vman class change
ok got it lol scared for my life thinking i accidentaly deleted it
Any idea why my damage is so low?
OMFG, I just noticed i can upgrade the statue guy to golden so the bonuses are account wide π€¦ββοΈ
I know it could be many things but I can't quite figure it out
Quite possibly one of the broadest questions. So many factors, skillage, cards, card set, bubbles, stamps
Talent levels
Can i deposit with any char or am i missing a talent for depositing statues or something like that?
I'm working on chaotic kruk with my first 7 and my vman is the 7th, not even close
Boost food, food effect, golden foods, star signs
Cooking, lab/green stacks, sailing artifacts
Eclipse skulls
I mean, I have 1b dmg on others, just can't figure out vman
just curious what makes vman get more dmg
vman is always going to have like 5%-10% of the damage of other characters
Like, my vman is not even able to get 100b, but just about every other char is 1T+
At the point you are at, can really only focus on account wide bonuses
its like 100% when my other characters are on their skilling talents π
maybe some skillage
Do I stay on Chakra until I unlock the 5th style?
depends on how many you have on divinity
All 10 until I get goharut, then everyone goes into lab and div, I usually take either my es or dk out for the day
with that method, I'd get as much div as possible and wait for exp until they are back in the lab
I have 100% goharut ready to go 10k/40k
but with all 10 in and you want to get xp, mantra would be the way
I don't have mantra yet but i will put them on it when that time comes (into lab with goat)
sounds like focus would be what you want (4 div > 2 div)
Then once I have it I just go for whatever gives the best exp.
once you are ok with the gods you want, yeah, heavy press on exp
Okay, thank you
how do I get more vip books?
vip books accumulate over time
Search every bonus in Idleon!
So im fked?
you will get anohter book in 18 minutes
there is a construction that helps
Search every bonus in Idleon!
this one might be better
you gotta increase meal lvls or do pet arena
only reasonable ways to get vip rn
How to kill nightmares kruk
I csn easily with some classes but some not rlly
I have 50 billion dmg on bb
And idk what is the method to kill him
Big damage and 30-45 minutes of killing mobs while poking the bosses health down with BB, Vman, and probably SB and BM
Basically move from side to side killing the mobs, hit him when it's safe, use your AoE attacks when needed/to give yourself more time to focus boss.
I am currently in the process of boosting everyone's damage by wrapping up some easy green stacks I neglected, eclipsing mobs in the deathnote, and upgrading their equipment.
So i just kill moΓΆes and wait for my ability to finish the bods daim
I just got my vman dmg to 10 bil
Damn, so you sample monster drops in VMAN during the void trials with active buffs. TIL
Is IE bugged or are those 0s the special maps like the single nutto?
If I mouse over the second one it says YumYum Islands, which doesnt exist
The islands is bugged in there, canβt zow it
Hmmmm.... I dont understand multikill... I can get around 1m frog afk kills but only 500k green mushrooms
mousehover and it should show the location, might only work on IE
Guys,which ax multi here ?
Because there's a lot more frogs on the map
I see
Mob amount, map size, move speed, play a factor to hitting you maximum KPH on the map.
Which can then be made better by afk gains and mob respawn and probably more that im forgetting about rn
Ontop of that you have MK
So what you're saying is just okay and don't worry about it because it's too complicated
Play*
Definetely worry about it on some extent. Testing out a move speed potion especially on larger maps can increase your kph by a bunch on certain maps
Aye I've got the 2 big ones and the cake
And then golden noms... grilled cheese...and kabobs
It does show but they are chizoars cave, yum yum island and companion park
World 1 through 5 Mobs Amounts, base max kill cap, kph, respawn timers. (includes merit/taskboard respawn)
PS: Not sure how old/outdated it is, but it's often a good thing to go off especially when going for chow/superchow and doing the highest rate stuff first.
W1 to W4:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1097026665118449785/image.png
W5:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1104314402850742303/image.png
What does merit stand for
In your example @gritty sierra You can see, gmush only has 14 mobs, frogs has 34. Max KPH is 2x higher. So that's the 500k vs 1m you compared.
Aye mashes sense
The Taskboard you unlocked in W1, where you do tasks to unlock bonuses such as respawn time
Ooooo right right
rip
So many parts is hard to keep up, residual with memory problema
(each world has the +20% faster respawn for merits when maxed 10/10)
Ya I remember
Coulda called it taskboard right away, would probably be a lot more obvious.
Hope that helps π
i need to get around to getting dementia everything still... and/or work on superchow i guess
oh wait, i have dementia on all but 2, guess im not that far behind haha
Dementia is the purple one right?
Mistake edited:
Dementia into Void, don't go past void (lustre/diabolical arn't really worth it) best do Chizoar which is also made from dementia
Afte that comes Troll into Magma (into Divine aka kruk gear)
errr i mean skulls, gear im already working on maybe trying for kruk stuff here soon
I've got 1.6b green mushies
Need void for chiz but yeah void is made with dem
But only 10m everything else
This will carry you fine till wurms
Ty, idk why i thought it was void then dem. but that makes sense
Eh no problem haha
Just remember having full Divine on everyone may not always be the best if you want to maximize your samples.
i am curious what w6 stuff will build from, would be a feels bad if it went back to using diablo gear
In my opinion i think there will be new entire recipes
using w6 mats alone and yeah maybe like lustre and such a set with ores
godshard gear!
idk what i wanna work on now. i guess i can keep pushing greenstacks and then maybe go for a new proper sampling and try to start doing my atoms more regularly
Alchemy is pretty good to work on
always alchin
Wanna push all skilling bubbles and second bubbles to 100
but takes some time since i can only get 19k seconds on cranium and bubo is div jail
id like to get more 12s (and 13s, but thats gonna be awhile)
Focus on your samples, a lot. Don't neglect it, and it will make the game domino
That along with daily CC's for water, especially active CC once 200+ tente
I should be done with div jail till i get to fury haha
Im only at the 2M island rn
hi guys, my divine knight's damage is supposed to be around 2M, but when i enter the W5 map, it suddenly drops to 940k, is this a bug?
Well fury is ||the next island|| π
Lack of accuracy
Isn t fury at 200M?
i still need ancient and eldritch on fury :c
This talent:
https://i.imgur.com/iKXlcKS.png
my accuracy is more than 100% too...
You need 1.5x the zone's accuracy to ge the dmg from that talent.
If your dmg is randomly sinking like that, then it's most likely due to that
ohhh that might be it
Just get 160k accuracy and u are good for entire w5
thank you thank you!!
shaquracy and when u get vman will help quite a bit
100k distance, 2m unlock is dreamcatcher and gummy orb.
300k distance, 8m unlock is Fury
i see
Also cooking recipes and stuff may help
well it shouldn t be that long till i get there
i really want isle of note, but still not super close to having enough speed to do that in a reasonable time
Working on getting all artif from prev islands
Sailing tip, try to not use SB talent 11 unless you're only checking sailing like once a day
Im checking sailing on my sb every 2 hours
Im active nonstop
Been like this for the past 5 days
Whats your loot pile and how many boats?
Hold on lemme check
IE shows it nicely btw
knew that question was coming xD
Boats 10 lootpile 13
Working on 11 boats but accidentaly unlocked 2 captain slots
I put on golden hampetrs on all chars except my active one for 5% sailing progress every hour is check them
So with SB talent your actual loot pile is 12. Without SB talent 11, your loot pile is 23 btw
What you do sacrifice is the extra captain XP (not sailing) that the boats would get from continuing to go back and forth while afk for a while (plus the "potential" chance to upgrade chests. But in most cases, 23 chests > 12 chests if the longest non-check is sleep.
Excuse me why do tremor worms deal so much damage
that s what they do
Because they deal more damage based on how many times somebody else has had to pick up your dirty socks to put into the basket
Because 2nd last map is 40k dmg, tremors are 200k dmg
Shouodn t be too bothersome if u have 2.5k defence
But like it went from 100 dmg on me to 10,000 hahaha
5x more dmg is a bunch
You've neglected your socks too much
Nearly all the previous zones were 40k, then bang 200k
work ur fmj
Damn bro wtf

and keep in mind, crystals are 2.5x dmg
so 100k vs 500k
when i say dmg i mean atk. essentially the same
These goddamn tremor worms are smiting me down
what class, bubo?
Yea hahaha
Level the invincibility talent
to like 3s
if they dont 1 shot you, you should be fine
It even worth farming em
its the best zone
almost rank 10
I'm in all your pics xD
Still need a bigger nugget
well i do keep discord open all times
And u talk quite a lot rn haha
One hour give or take till ojs finnaly
smol nug
Whats the max level orb should be?
Lava been baiting me with 300-400 nuggets for the past couple days
as high as you can
With PO box CDR, no higher than 267
Be sure to lvl symbols (talent 15) first, or you mess up your Orb talent 
Should symbols be prio?
Not early on, bit situational how many talents you ahve. but stuff like orb and knight maxed etc will be more beneficial
but always 1 point
Guys for soda poisoning i need to just use 3 poisonic elders
any theories on the new statues?>
You mean the chisel? new statues probably won't come until w6 and be based on those skills
My bet is secondary effects for statues, but there's no actual information about them
onyx statues is what I am refering too
just ideas
Thats a chisel
oh interesting
Most solid speculation i've heard was % buff based on # of statue or level of statue
Since other game mechanics and content already work like that. e.g. Every 10 levels +x% bonus on the value. or every x statues. kinda things like that
That's a good contender too
statue statue
:kappa:
keep unlocking, or worth getting that second level of the stamp one sooner than later?
You should not be fully upgrading them right away. Always push for the next sigil first.
In easy words, you are trying to reach the 1st sigil on the 2nd row, for faster sigil speed.
oh fair point
thanks for reminding me, forgot i had guys on sigils
Id the poison soda achievement possible
i think once i get vman back on the top of all skills, maybe get everyone kitted out with starfire or dreadlo tools, ill do another sample push with the gods etc all accounted for, and then leave samples alone for awhile
oh yeah i should try to do more of those TD cheevs
"for a while" is always a rough term. since nearly every 2-3 weeks you can basically double your samples with proper progress
for the nugget ( gaming) what is the "sweetspot" for claming it?
hmmm. yeah i feel like ive been doing it weekly ish lately, so i guess that would be decentish in comparison. get some mileage out of the relic at least
1-4 hours iirc?
Every hour?
When you click a nugget, it takes 1 hour to give you the next nugget. If you click it earlier, the timer resets. IE shows time left.
Next nugget (2nd one is like an extra 4h or something later. then like 6-7h later etc. not sure what the actual hours are for the later ones, but it gets worse and worse)
thx π
Shouldn't the recipe drop be blacked out in the cards section of the monster if I haven't gotten the drop yet?
Guys, please explain to me how the skills that are marked with a white cross work, I partially do not understand how they work.
it will disappear once you get the recipe
Ah really, ok thanks for the info!
Recipe show different on cards.
If you get any of the recipes from the world (same icon) then it will show the recipe icon on the card for the unobtained ones. Once you get the specific recipe, it will vanish.
How much of a difference does unlocking the pong controller make ? I have 115k bits at the moment, my next fertilizer upgrade costs 85k. Do I wait a few more days to unlock the controller, or just continue spending on generic upgrades?
if youre trash at pong like me, not much of a difference
Don't be that hard on yourself 
https://i.imgur.com/Hu80G5Z.png
That's still double though?
Bone marrow is sick once you get some plate levels in
I feel like you just highlighted every single talent pretty much.. how do you not undestand most of that?!
Like talent 12.. statues give higher bonuses, seriously what is not to understand?
Is the multiplier additive or multiplicative?
Think most of gaming is always multi? but not sure. Easily assumeable that it is.
If it takes less than like around 3 days to unlock, then wait for it maybe?
Boss kill skill: Gives you mob respawn for killing a world boss, only counts the first kill in a speedrun, so kill the highest variant you can quickly
Power Orb: Multiplier for damage based on the char's class level, so if you got a beginner fresh char now, it would get no boost, but if it leveled up to 50, it'd get 1x that boost, level 100, 2x etc
Statue one is a straight up multiplier to the statue effects
Critter and souls one is add the vman's trapping and worship skills, subtract 100 and multiply by your bonus per level
Master of the system is a multikill bonus based on speedrun high score, not sure how else to explain this one
Blood marrow is weird, it's an exponential formula, so it really sucks with low meal levels, and is the main source of meal speed with higher meal levels. The meal levels is just the sum of all your meals
Pumping some talents, I did not see the difference, or looked in the wrong direction. That's why I'm asking.
Have you done a void run?
In fact, you were able to explain everything to me, and now I understand, thank you!
One more goal for achievement 
Boss kill difficulty is irrelevant though? (for the respawn effect)
Definitely relevant, normals give one portal, chaotic give two portals, and nm give three
For the respawn effect irrelevant yeah
pong tilts me too fast, ill get to 7-9k range then start playing poorly after a few dumb losses
Did I understand correctly that my character causes a rift, passes high-speed portals, and when it comes to the boss, he gets an acceleration of the appearance of mobs? And this skill does not work in the ordinary world, only in a rift
Yeah, only in a speedrun
is there any purpose of god ranks? It takes forever
ES talent for +% dmg to all chars per god rank
Very minimal bonus
Getting rank 1-3ish is fine, but don't specifically worry about it. better just run Tranqi (on non lab-goaters) until everyone is lvl 80+
Now I understand, thank you so much!
Aight thanks guys
https://gladdon.idleonefficiency.com
quick question
i can get about 400m damage on bubo, should i start pushing w5 more? im getting portal keeped for upgrading my bubbles
also some general advice would be nice
What do you mean by portal keeped?
i need mats from later world 5 maps for alch
perhaps a good idea, i feel that, although i am just being gatekept by sailing right now for my alch heh
my sailing is so behind
cus uh
i cheesed tent 200
with out fury
at first glance, you should probably wait to push, just because you are too weak to push efficiently
and my alch is way ahead
the question is
wait for what?
not sure what else you know
there's a lot of progress that you can make in stamps / alchemy / cooking that will drastically improve your stats
more alch/stamps perhaps, although bubo i guess is gonna be hard to push with compared to stuff like dk or ES for quite awhile
but last time i check same damage bubo/es bubo is slightly faster
those take longer then 3days, which is the amount of time it takes for me to push 3 portals
if I were you, i would prioritize getting good samples on all of your characters
biggole moles portal is 6m kills i think
thats is true i suppose
and crawler portal is 10m kills
it will probably take you a week to push those portals
with 400m dmg
yes but you will be farming them very slowly
they have 1200m hp
your poison ticks for 200m?
cant i just
aura
they dont have a good map for aura
ahh
lots of platforms
i see
3D printer is very important for progression
and you dont even have samples on 2 of your characters
2 dk 2 es 2 sb
y 2sb over 2bb?
because fishing has an end
at one point you dont need more fish and they just print ores
cant double dip cooking, and fish are yeah
also archers help your forge progress a lot
ok
lots of reasons tbh
in the future, when more elite classes are introduced, you wont be able to elite class swap
forge will take a lot longer to make bars for vials than things like needing fish or probably even cooking
ight
yeah 2 BBs sounds good early but later on you realize how much of a trap it is
plan now:
get greenbit
resample
get fury
i would prioritize samples
and stamps
you can easily push to 4k+ total stamp levels
is total lvl a benefit somewhere?
yes later on in rift, but stamps are just really cheap early on in general
and they are all beneficial
half of my weekly gains come from stamps
Spear doesn't work non-warriors anymore, if ur interested
I suggest using wired gloves instead >:)
The orange ones i forgot their names.. more upgrade slots so little more damage
i mean spear has low range no
thats all i really need
i suppose
But i have low dmg, 13m isn't exactly enough to throw away my staff..
dont need damage tho
1 slot in spear and 2 in gloves yk
my spear is unupgraded 
Guess ur fine then
Gotta say tho, this has to be the best main stat boost in the game
And plus the 100%+ exp gain for all characters
!!!!
y no statue buff
thats like crazy good
Also PLEASE replace your dementia boots ..
I forgor
no 
my bubo is so over lvled OMGLUL
yo guys whats the command to look acheivments list?
?wiki Achievements
there's absolutely no reason to have chars in the cauldrons after I've unlocked all of the bubbles, right?
noy unless you dont rlly care abt the prices
oh true, that's useful I guess
Did you upgrade it 50x times manually? Or with No Bubble Left Behind
but the 2x extra isn't for bubble lvl's amirite
probably no bubble left behind
Keep grading manually then
dont thin so
It needs 50x manual upgrades
go dammit
Does orb affect candy? Like if I candy with a high orb count, do I get better drop rate on the afk gains?
Drop rate doesnt work for gems, time candies
The yellow bubble larry is for bubble multi-level, the boost 2x is for boost levels
Thought so, just wanted to check in case I was missing out on gains
cheers
Either way, always stack up orb kills when doing minibosses, still helps a bunch
Also consider other things like cards, eggs, and all that type of stuff
Just wanted to spend the minimum amount of candy on some cooking clogs for troll boots
just active ES for 5min :p
Or throw a few candy to get it in seconds
well look at you mr. big spender
at least you got some talent lvls (:
I hope i get slug next free roll
it was the first pet i got
Need that tentacleye to lvl 200 asap
You could get fury, that'd be more reliable
Curently at the 2M island soon
Being done with Artifacts is kinda boring, like obviously nice to not worry about artis.. but now there's no thrill when ever opening chests :/
got everything eldrich?
yeh
nerd
got the 300 boat achievement?
took 115 days from unlocking w5 to all eldritch
not bad
yeh, a while ago
what's the strat? go for lvls then go higher islands?
Remove SB talent 11, be active. Spread your gold hampters accross all chars. Get bubble up. etc.
Most importantly. Be lucky and never even have to spend these 
https://i.imgur.com/ao77e3z.png
I got like 14day traveltime on the furthest island on some of my boats still :p
Fury took me forever.. a whole 3-4ish days... and it's ancient version too, can you believe that? xD
oh fuck off π
Oh big mistake i see some people do is they work on artifacts from left to right..
next tip is "be lucky as hell"
ALWAYS send your fastest boats to the highest islands you can that are still in proper reach, else you bottleneck yourself if you do all from left to right
Luck? this is skill.. look at the date stamps 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1127866627187298344/Discord_2MkRO9bIHv.png
roast me 
really channeled your inner DJ Khaled there 
that is 100% skill. I apologize
Was to find the pics more easily
all you had to do was search "another one"
It's honestly something i hate about w5... It's not rng dependant enough... everything is a skill issue.
In the meantime, my nugget went from 10k to 13k to 15k to 17k and i just rolled a 16.9k the other day :/
.> how
I've been sitting on 12k for months
Claiming my nug rolls quite dilligently
Gotta get those chem trains going
chen#m trails
is there idleon guide sheet? the last one i have is deleted
is there a tier list/purchase order for the new islands?
dangit you beat me
thanks bro
getting closer to current goal
just came back from OB surfing in san diego
I forced him with 200 pulls 
if you go for 100k, you gotta go for 130k
its 333k thats 0.5 bonus
that will be the goal for next time i decide too do plunderous
you do tremors?
i have been farming on oj
what should i buy on shimmer island?
i think skill eff is underrated
i think the general rec is stats
but im not sure
i want to pump dmg but it scales so fast lol
i wonder which one is actually maximum value
I'm prob gonna do something like dmg/eff/stats in a 2/2/1 ratio. Idk tho
Seems good to evenly level since u can get stuff cheaper. No point in class exp
Stats = damage 
Yeah but the dmg one is a multiplier from what I've heard
So... stat sticks... Something like this would you just upgrade and hope for a lot of wisdom then hold it when you worship instead of your normal axe?
I'm gonna test and make sure tho. Got a few hrs left before I claim ~30 shimmers
normal axe gives more wis
i use stinky axes on my non-choppers and stinky pickaxes on my non-miners
.... not if you don't have dreadlo lol
Wdym 'hope for' a lot of wisdom?
why snail?
starfir still gives more
because they are too slow to be actually used but they are effective stat sticks until you get dreadlo
Lustre might even be better
i use the stinky axes on my warriors and archers because they dont need the bonus wis
and i dont have enough pearler shells
Do not need dreadlo lol
But when you have the option u should definitely go for dreadlo on all your tools
It's a big difference
Then upgrade the tool on your warrior/archer and get bonus strength and agility
yeah they still have substats
i feel like chopping is the easiest to level on non mages tho, of all the non specialised skills
its not the levels, its the pearler shells π
i get 25 from a 12hr last time i did em
Es farming
i think i have created dusins of dreadlo axes trying to get the ultimate axe
Just put ur ES on pearlers for a night and u will get a good amount
What +1 slot +1 stat, all kattle stones?
yeah im farming beans in prep of statue update
mostly just +1 slot and then all kattle ye
But the +1 stat..
dont you mean +3 stat?
Idk man, i never use that thing lol
new bribe gives +12 stats from archer skill now
im going for trash bribe just so i can get the +12 so i can make the ultimate stingers with 30 wisdom
Going for the bribes as well but its a slow wait
i really want to get the stat graph stamp
but garbage from random events is kinda stronk
I got my trash to 5 atm, might to 6 then bribe or bribe at lvl 5 trash, not sure
Any idea on how I can unlock this acheivement when I have 5m sentinels and can only hold 700k in my inventory?
You make a 2nd stack in storage
Heard 6 for trash then saving for bribe was fastest
just drag and drop, ezpz
Ive just accepted it as fact without checking though
You can make multiple stacks in storage? Damn
Yeh ik, heard that too, it's probably more "efficient" but not sure if actually faster to get the bribe itself
i wish we knew how much trash dropped from the random events but it could potentially be 1.5x - 2x income after unlocking bribes
you can have multiple stacks in your chest, only one has to be at 50k
You have to drag them into the storage slot instead of just quick tapping them in
No clue but probably a few independant variables. Wouldn't take long to test. either way just go to the better spots when you can
Question would I need 10billion danage for more from shimmer Island? I did 2.2b.
It's asking for highest damage in numbers digits.
yeah id assume 10B is prob the next threshold
might as well collect them. dont think ill hit 10b damage from 2 in this week
yeah prob not, u would need to put in a ton of work for that
let's gooooo
If ur taking a break from idleon put the god u got and all goat and stay in lab
Thatβs what i did lol
the wiki has the math and stuff on it
Hmmm.... rn I'm trying to unlock the lv40 prayer so I can focus on other stuff
Seasalt is literally the best thing to hit fishing. Used a few time candies and boom lvl 90
the cards are nice too
too bad the fish are going to have no use for another year
Hey I'm cool with that. I can finally throw Vman to something else.
theyre on the wiki
The green one is fishing speed
What is a good starting dmg to push w5?
Really as soon as you hit it. You should be able to meet the minimum to afk suggma to get started
Just don't skimp on your alchemy for accuracy
Those fishing cards are getting rubbied asap
Ive got king doot today:) is it now still neccerary to be linked to a god or does all char linked to all? I dont really get itπ
As soon as your units hit div 2, they're going to get the benefit
Only one you still HAVE to link to for effects (Maybe secondary?) is purrremp
If only I still needed clouds
awesome unit to not recruit it!
He's practically useless for me unless we get more clouds π¦
you could stop writing after "me" and it will be also true
I'm just hoping to get these last few eldritch done before W6
Is summoning on maestro really just crystal countdown and balloons? Seems so slow
You mean CC farming?
yar
Maybe I don't understand the question enough. I CC farmed for a bit to get him ranked 1st. But my Maestro/Vman has been skilling forever since then.
So he's always rank 1 with prayers, equips, talents, etc.
And Vman takes it to a whole other level
1 / 9?
And more so mean the literal exp to go from one level to the next. I'm going to run out of my balloon stash QUICK.
1/9 is great. Depending on the skill you're leveling (like fishing) you want to leave him skilling once you hit the CC cap
check your IE for most EXP / charge prayer, and use transfusion skill
I think thats about all you can do in worship without ccd
Plus worship goes brrr anyways with Vman
? How does VMan make it go faster
Forgot transfusion thanks. Looks like it's tundra worship
only soul gain, not exp
Just don't skimp on the prayers for skill exp though
Awful. But so important to level π¦
balance of proficiency and Unending Energy are kinda it ya?
Gonna start working on my trapping vials so wanna do a decent push for trapping and summoning levels.
Super time gated on trapping so heeeere I am
Hey at least something gives you anticipation so that's good
I'm getting the rest of the squad on magma and then i'll farm kattle for div on the rest
I'm procrastinating on w4 splicers for the rest of the units right now.....
Yeeeah. One of mine has it and then I got lazy lol
I stopped at 3. But I need to finish the pets already.
Pets are all done for me, I need to actually rotate my shinies around at SOME point but I'm being SUPER lazy there lol
I don't even want to think about that π¦
I'm battling my 2 largest enemies right now. Hampters and pearler shells.
Yeeeah, I haven't done the rare mat grind and I just keep looking at it and going ehhhhhhhhh
I feel that
ive just been leaving 5-7 characters at hampters and i get like 70~ a day
Does the Larry bubble upgrade 3 times after 100%
It can yes
my bubo himself can get 50-70 a day just active but it's just a grind for those
105% means 5% chance for 3 otherwise 2
can active + leave alts there for a lot but i prefer to active tremor wurms or beans
why bubo instead of DK or ES?
Alch water for me lol
My alts definitely need to go do something else for a bit. I just wanted them to reach 400 as a baseline
Bubo takes care of them with the platforms much better than ES or DK ever could
ES stalls after a bit with the portal mobs
DK can't touch all the platforms as easy
ES is actually better for hampters but you need a lot of dmg
but ES and DK will get rare items faster even if they are killing slower
map has too many platforms for DK
DK wont be fast
DK needs to full clear to respawn
^That
ES will farm hampters faster than bubo for sure tho
once you can hit ~150 portal mobs you will get 20 an hour
I tried it but at 90B he's not cutting it
whats your DR
10.3
damn
yeah it's good if you need the liquid
but you will get better cc on tremor wurms
Oh for sure
When i'm not farming him for something that requires the platforms, he's there
probably better to farm hampters on ES and tremors on bubo, the results will probably be comparable to just farming hmpters on bubo
I'll try it again later today and compare again. Maybe i'm just missing it
But ES will be going for pearler shells for sure
i just candy for pearler shells lol
Not a bad plan
does the P stand for Passive?
Yup
ight
Early deserves no sampling eh?
cus i had like 5 empty players
man is lvl 49
and lab lvl 45
ill like
figure out him later
hahaha fair enough.
I haven't resampled in a bit. :< I just hate the effort.
just new players with 

I re-sampled my main peeps. My others are just........sad
I redid my logs and probably audibly said 'fuck you ' to the rest.
Better magma or kattle stuff guys?
My main SB and then my.....other SB
depends on what you want to do
magma is best for sample / skilling, kattke helm / boots have DR, kattle chest / legs have mob respawn
bubo ? stinger only ES? higher tier always better
Hard to choose:(
im making my 10th character, i want a ranger. i have 1 bm and one sb, what should i get another of?
make one of each set for each stat
Sb
why
cuz bm is garbage
I guess Iβll do ankther magma set Iβll put on my char for sample ..and everyone else with kattle
only thing he does is trapping + breeding, both of which are acc wide
thats very true, cant believe i didnt think of that myself
2 BM is like eating a well done steak smothered in peanut butter and jelly with a side of racoon
2 SB is usefull because you can lvl up the DR skill on just one. The other one just full dps
thats what im doing too , most of my characters are going to be killing mobs so kattle is better for me
You got your orb up first right?
ive done this but for some reason it wont give me it, does it need to be on one char, it says across your acc tho?
DK is awesome:)))
Itβs bugged for everyone
we love DK
oh dam
I got it till like 140 or so, I didn't knew how long the boss will take, sadly I got the orb after boss till like 190
Hey but now you know
I don't start summoning them till I'm at the last bit of my orb
I try coliseum with dk soon
wtf
Reminds me of rick and morty
yaaas, just in time for me starting on eclipse
It's beautiful
I was sampling my second DK and ES and was super confused why their samples sucked so bad
I never put any prayers on them 
Big neglect on characters 8-10
i mean last time i looked at your IE, you didnt even have samples on em 
They are like 200M oak on es now
80M copper
My main es is still a lot better
But without prayer I was getting like 140M

Check the frisbee sample 
lit
niceu
Added iron for hammer hammer clicks
just reminded me
Yeah mines only like 400 now
Hourly clicking going pretty good
Iβve doubled my first bubbles
nice
only 900 agi
Yeah Iβm only around 700
Hourly clicking sounds like a pain
Every time I think I'm good, people remind me I'm so far behind LOL
I was late to the clicking party
I'm sitting here happy with my 10m copper sample
I could be way higher but I refused to hourly click
Now that I see the damage from hourly clicking I regret
i focused prints so i could hourly click asap hue
i was click hearty diggy too but my atoms were struggling
should I atom 2nd or 3rd purp cauldron for prints?
what diff between the 4?
chpping big bubble is capped at 3x multi
ah I meant hocus choppus not big bubble
I never touch that talent π¦
so mana = chop eff
o mb chopping multi bubble is 4th
alright, thanks
Hourly clicks just means having a print be above 1050m right
Cuz I might have reached that with logs finally
I lowkey forgot this bubble existed till last night
1000m technically but yeah
Coliseum, chests are whatever with orbs or do you want to open chests with orb skill active aswell?
Dies it affect anything?
it does
Don't quote me on that
Orb for chests 100% of the time
I got 230 kills on the miniboss in Colo 3, but after miniboss skill runs out
its the reason dk is good at colo
either skip the first group of waves and do that without orb, or get higher talent lvl on orb
orb ius 135/147 max booked
rn
idk how i increase max book lvl besides the soul upgrade thingy
mainly the sailing artifact
oh
i rly have to mess with sailing
mine are just doing whatever rn
since 2 weeks or so
There's nothing that affects opening coolers correct?
I think orb does
I donβt think anything affects coolers
The oysters/mob spawning event items get buffed from orb tho
Yeah it doesn't affect opening. I've always done the spawning ones with him though
I've been doign them on dk with rob
Whoβs rob 
they r useless anyway, just some stones, u just want cards taht drop 100% of the time
remembered someone saying they did but guess not :{
Orb makes you get 5 star
Iβd be impressed to see someone get 5 star without orb
can orb make them drop multiple cards?
challenge accepted
did you transfer that from pirate ?
I wonβt get one here either 
yeah im breaking the meta 
I got cat and hotdog hat htis event πͺ
cool π
i hate that the pirate hat looks the exact same as my SBs in character select
makes me think my DK is my SB when im in chip console
need elite hat premium for all class for construction/alchemy/lab icons
Success
i sampled 
But no hat just 2 shell thingies
on wht should i spend my points on
gj I saw 
deff getting this for dk if only i kept it 
Get that skill book home fry
Keep dmg and eff even
definitely ignore class exp %, other it depends
just get books
just need to work on your stamps and you will notice a big difference in your daily gameplay
id do even split on dmg and eff, wouldnt go for the book until the other stuff gets really expensive
yeah
Should still be able to get the hat. From the bird in W1. Type give me hat pls or something like that.
ok have 9%skill eff and 6%dmg
nice
Give me hat*
What level is your highest char in lab?
500ist
youre not missing out on much
lab level ?~ 200
My highest is just 98 xd
back to the time has nothing do at w4 all people just sitting lab forever
yeah
long as u got all ur chip slots on all chars ur done with lab. unless he adds to it
i guess bubo gets some dmg from it but yea
some premier pay only chip
im leaving
hope lava adds more chip slot post lv75 just so theres a reason to continue it, maybe space it out like lv25 per chip after 75 and need lv250 for extra 7 chip slots anyway
oh i was just thinking he'd expand the placement stuff more right and add more nodes
so theres a reason to have more line width
guys, I have a question for drop rarity
my ES has 2.33 drop rarity and my DK has 1.8
which one is the best for active drop? I thought the DK skill would be broken but is this skill makes the drop rarity higher than my ES?
ES will do better if ur starting rarity is that low
relies on having good dmg though
both bad
start farming if you got chocochip
DK is kinda a late bloomer, needs lot of DR and talent lv
go with ES, doesnt need choc chip and can already farm decent even early on
this is choco chip?
yep
he wont able to see much things he looking for at that dr , doesnt have dr chip ?



