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if ur looking for big damage on ur vman u can always atom quick slap. thatll get you there if u use enough atoms. only question is if u value the extra damage enough to do that since theres prob many other bubbles worth atoming rn
Is sheepie the best for w3 or do I just trial and error
The w5 LUK stamp is also gigantic value
Staches
Aight
how high we talking in terms of lvling that
wouldnt recommend it unless ur fine with ur current atom generation and dont care to increase your samples
that explains it
i was at 80B dmg on vman struggling on NM kruk and now im at 1T
Are you having any problems in the Gaming section? I receive very few points compared to the previous days
How long did it take you to raise your Liquid cap to that? 
its prob not as high as some peoples liquid
the bonus from the lab node is a big difference
Ohhh
lowers speed but with bubo thats fine
I didn't activate it because 30% was too much for me 
Dang it, you're smart
Did you possibly remove talent points from DK Bit talent? I can't think of what else would reduce that, since your Rock is off and you don't have Snail
the only change in the account is that I bought Bog Long, can this affect it?
I checked again, that was the problem, thank you very much, I appreciate it
Quickslap good
Does the loot stat increase the chances of getting the rare loot?
5% per loot roll to be rare
No but increases the amount you get when you get rare loot
ty
Soon green will get fast
Same
Been stuck on pink with 0 greens for like 3 weeks
i stopped levelin pink, prob wont till green is at least like lvl 30
i turned off my blue and nullo a long time ago, guess i should get em ranking up again
I see no reason not to just never stop leveling everything tbh. Since salt doesnt have much purpose atm
damn you have like 3x my refinery levels lol
Think at lvl 80+ it really starts going fast
prob is my vman has a slush skull still equipped, and I cant craft a good one for him because no green lol
Oh r.i.p
i gotta fix that asap because rn worship is my lowest skill
that slush skull kinda trash for charging
You can balloon worship pretty easily
oh yeah hmm i might do that
Taking it to like 140 I think was like 1-2k balloons
whats the BiS mix for armor with magma and cattle?
Depends tbh. If you're afk killing all kattle is pretty good due to respawn and DR
Seasalt brought me back to trapping holding me back which is cool
noice
Is 235 max talent library level?
245
for ballooning worship does it matter which TD I use? just my highest exp per charge one?
Dont think the TD tower matters, only your EXP multi but I could be wrong
What happens if you unlock bubbles after the last one?
when the next world comes out u will be prepared
you can unlock bubbles up to w8 if u like
You can unlock them but they won't do anything for now
Does it show the unlocked bubbles?
Nah just max out exp gain and go to glublin
Balance of prof and transfusion
sounds good, u remember what exp multi u were around so i can shoot for that?
No idea man think the biggest things are maxed prayer and max transfusion
okidoki
ah i guess i should wait, didnt max prayer because im slacking on td 5
been a while since ive done td 5 or 6
Id just waste 25 points and see how much you get. Cause more worship levels on vman means more souls on es
Then once maxed you can go back and do the rest
tru
i def should go do this tower defence tho, could get at least 30 waves on it i bet
Speaking of td, can I unlock every prayer with level 1 void tower or do I need levelled up poisonic elder?
I'm still relying on boulder roller for damage but i did get them to level 25
Also been levelling party starter, lightning and kraken a bit
poison is king, lvl 1 void is prob fine for now but u will eventually want to level everything up anyways because u get extra dmg for each level above 50
Yeah I don't think my build rate is good enough to get poisonic elder to a decent level though, so I was just wondering how far I can get without it lol
just start upgrading it
But I'1ll start upgrading him soon
from 80 onwards its gonna be rough without poison because of mob density
since boulder is capped
u definitely wont be able to get every single prayer right off the bat
Guys is there a way to know how old your acc is?
Damn
Is there like a strategy to digging up big nuggets in gaming garden? Like wait longer for them to stack or something? Or is it 100% RNG? I've been stuck at 10k multiplier for literally three months, maybe longer.
As long as I can unlock at least the third prayers in td 1 and 2, and at least up to 2nd in the last 2 td, I'm happy
I think I'm playing the game for a bit more than 3 years 
damn
you can also check when you got first steam achiev
if you started on steam, prob will be about the day you started
Rng, most efficient to do your nugget every hour. Can track times on IE or IT
oh well then u should be kinda close already to doing that stuff
I've been grinding 4 days now to kill next mob in indle skilling, I've unlocked up to teehee 14 and need teehee 15 for the trophy lol
I was given the advice to just start using poison as soon as I got it
I was on phone and I don't think lava had pc version then lol
Yeah I think so, when I unlock voidinator I'm gonna go try to do all the td
ah okay lol
I think my game dice are weighted against me, haha. You should've seen my bad luck trying to get my most recent god. Thanks!
Ye nugget sucks lol
do u have lots of that piercing kills thing? forgot the name. I think I was only able to kill stuff on teehee 3 but the kills went through all the way to 15
Yeah eviscerate is capped at +10, I'm actually killinh teehee 3 and that unlock up to teehee 14, I just need to be able to kill teehee 4 but I can unlock get about half a bil kills per hour on it and I need a few trillion
On teehee 3 I actually get a few quadrillion kills or somethign lol
just loaded it back up after 2000 hrs to check
So it's just a matter of getting my damage at least x100 what it is now or something, but man the game does NOT want to give me damage bonuses
Yeah that's about the same point I am at
Yeah lol that's exactly what happens
But Im already at a few milliong there so I'm close yeah
But idk how to get that extra damage buff I need lmao, I'm literally doing everything the game gives me but still hard
near the end i started grinding tunnels
Yeah that's what I'm doing but at tunnels I'm baaarely scraping by too
they unlock lots of OP new potions
I need to unlock the brew speed multiplier whcih is taking like 14 hours, after that i can push all the new potions I unlocked but can't brew and with the potions MAYBE I can keep advancing in tunnels
what do you guys go for with trash island, save all the way to 130 first and then others? or boost trash gain first and wait for 130 after 3-4 upgrade?
I started getting the trash buff but at this point I'm just saving for stamps since it seems faster, after stamps I can focus on +trash and other stuff
i'm just straight upgrading trash amount until it is a great collection each day
6stamp9?
i got the first stamp already, but i'm on upgrade 5 of trash now
which stamp is that?
I meant bribes, sorry
I have enough for second stamps and I basically ignored trash buff after the second since it was barely helping lol
Not sure what I'm gonna do about 3rd stamp, but probably just save fro 10 days and then get it
it gets me 10-14 trash/day atm, which is a big help over 4-6 imo
Yeah the +trash is good but I feel like the stamps are cheap enough that you can get them pretty early
+trash is more relevant for more expensive upgrades
oh yeah so saving for bribes is what i tought doing
i did boost the trash by 2 first
both work, however after saving for those stamps in the end you'll have the same amount of +trash, but i'll have higher levels of garbage so i can easily save later
imo it's going to be around the same amount of time i guess
Theres people that mathed it out and 6 +garbage, then bribe, then 9 +garbage then upgrades was most efficient
can take anywhere from 200 to 600 days depending on how you spend garbage I think, but I didnt do the math so idk
what map in w4 is good for cramiun cooking?
Yeah, I just figured getting the stamps early is gonna help me getting my samples higher a bit faster, I'm struggling with samples even after I x10 every sample a week ago
prob cans
People seems to suggest cans or flombeiges, is what I've been doing
yeah both are good
I can't cc in w5 yet but flombeiges are not hard to get enough damage
I'd try citringes even if it takes 2-3 aura ticks for them to die
youll go from lvl 200 - 300 in a day
I think at first I was getting 30k in cans, but depends on your bonuses, I soon reached 60k and now I'm at 90k in flombeige
what lvl ?
seconds?
Funny enough I got 180-230 at flombeiges last night lmao
assuming you are not just doing cc but also reducing cooldown
I haven't reached citringes with anyone yet but that's my goal
from lvl 200 to 300
ah fair
Yeah
A lot of my characters are at the skull thingies
Some are at capybaras, some are at molti
Honestly I was morer focused on getting 2k total level for next square obol slot lol
should i try to unlock most of the w1 pets before moving to w2?
what way is going to get me the most exp
do we think the new features will arrive on the 28th?
I don't think xp changes with which pet you're breeding? Not sure though
I don't think so but Lava is faster than I expected with updates so who knows
prob best off going for the pet with highest chance of getting it
okay. wasnt sure if there was some bonus for getting all of w1 or anything
ive put like 100 eggs into coconut and its just not working
all of w1 would take a long time
i wanted to get whale cause i know tahts really good
use genes to increase odds
but massive failure
But if you wanna know my opinion, try to get up to nutto, it's useful in pet battles for a while. then you go to w2 and try to reach snelbie at which point you never need any other pet for fighting
trying to get the w2 splicer
But when w2 pet is easier to unlock than w1 do w2
Also always have some breedables of each latest pet from each world you can do in fenceyard
active ES should get it decently fast
ah
i should have been getting w1 genes this whole time
idk why i didnt
does multikill increase genes?
yes
@little pagoda i got 45OO sec of alchemy why do i have so low
Can anyone help me with the game rating quest? Need P & S
Where?
low talent lvl, low bubble
on cans
and low crystal spawn chance
why would u want crystals?
I have really high crystal mob chance and got chocolate cookie from gem shop so that helps
more crystals = more kills
ow
Also level 100 cooking roadkill bubble
but matteras a lot less than talent and bubble level
whats ur bubble at?
you also might have bar set up wrong
And level 192 talent
what talent?
cc....
There are a few but here's my bar
get rid of thing before fart
ye mine was the same
and dice
Nah I want dice dynamo lol
hmm damn my lower level sb is only getting 183k green mush/hr
I can't rely on aura only, I need the cannisters
farts should be enough
what dmg range?
Both can kill in 1 hit but I need to have the staff equipped
and you should be able to spawn 2-3 auras with 200 tent
stingers
you should still be able to kill mobs in 1 hit with aura
the dmg multi is pretty high
With aura probably, but then fart clouds will suck won't it?
fart and poison is the same thing 
you wont be relying on poison anyways
until you're at endgame dmg
In world 5 and don't know the importance of crystals?!
im on moles on my bubo and aura doenst come close to covering it all :{
mole is a bad map
awful to push there
so should I just wait until I have relevant poison dmg?
and multikill
Yeah exactly]
I gave up on bubo after a bit because it looked bad, but only getting 80k kph on dk :{
Getting multikill in world 5 is pretty hard even for mages
so gonna take like 80 hours
afk push?
active
did you max charred skulls talent and equip Fibres of Absence?
these two will make the time to unlock portal halved
Using vman to give yourself more base stats for charred skulls is a good if you haven't done that
haventr booked vman stat talents since im low on points, but have it maxed yeah
Book em
I'm low too but can spare enough points to book 2 of the 4 stats
would rather get more meal speed / souls
It's possible to get all of those
I only have like 32 speedrun on vman
And it's still enough
oh thats rough, guess no maxing then
Thanks
So nice on rift 
Big
worth saving 50 points until I get eldritch fury for?
Anyone with a P name meet me for rating quest?
Wait +20 sec in what?
statue duration
Oh you mean dk statue, got it
its been released for months
my bad i am new
Finally unlocked Chemical plants! Any tips in regards how to best use them? (did read up that they gave progress time on everything gaming)
if ur trying to min max then use it last when u have nothing left to click
This is w5 chat lolol
Wait what vman skill buffs DK statue duration?
can someone please suggest me a video to watch explaining world 5
eclipse at 225 (top right)
Omg nice
griffybit on youtube probably has a w5 video
does DK orb work on kattlecruk moles?
Nope
Man I really need a guild with maxed perks, I've been missing out on so much by being in a pretty much inactive guild that I joined week 1 lol
Are blobfish critters not available yet??
They are, you just need to do the quest
It's in the choccie map
Which one specifically because Iโm on the quest for critter baron atm
It's not from lord of the hunt
The one in the choccie map
ahhhh from the one looking for her kids
Yeah that one
I understand now thank you guys ๐
bad luck
For sleeping on the job, does it switch or does it do both?
can i dismantle silver money obols or are they worth keeping
Its not working at the time
u can dismantle em
what about the trapping/worship circle
u can keep a set of those, u dont need a hexagon or sparkle version of them though
since hexagon has the slush miniboss hexagon, and the sparkle has the w5 boss one
both are BIS for anything skilling related
yeah i keep a different set on each character pretty much
anyone got the priority guide for islands
Anyone got a high level guild I can join? Lvl 400 play daily.
do you stop gaining star points after a certain level?
no
does rerolling stat obols work same as dr obols? so +1 from what it drops at?
ye
alright thanks
im connected to goharut but im not gaining any divinity points is that normal ? The char is in lab
You should be getting divinity points
They don't show when you claim afk gains?
Is it public knowledge on the specific mechanics of sampling?
Ie: if I went to my storage chest right at the hour would I see my numbers change? If someone was anal enough could they put all their people into lab right at 00:59 to get double samples from the ones not previously in the lab?
IE has a counter for when your printer prints, so should be possible I reckon
Info tab doesn't show people on goat. You still get the div points when you afk
ok ty
nicee
finally got one to drop that was over 100%, highest before was 98%
nice
also down to less than 50 items missing on the slab
oh damn
how are you missing golden pop square but not the other pops? did you somehow skip it?
i got dementia pop from a obol pack but not sure how i missed gold pop
i have a plat pop atm lmao
that i crafted from golden pops
weird
probably went too fast for the game to register i had made gold. so i'll just get them again, maybe go to shellbies or something later on DK
maybe
pop is gigafrogs on es
you can get silver pops from shellbies too though and skip over bronze pops from gigas
it's not as fast, but i have horn vial, i don't like going there to waste time anymore lol
ah
Do I get one of these already or do I still boost stats?
Girl, but sure?
fam pls
Not maxing stats first?
i would max stats first
i alr have rings for all chars but i think i maxed stats first
I'd get the stats to 90%'ish first tbh - my bad
I started buying rings and havent maxed stats yet
only the ones I didnt like left tho, maxed the ones that seemed decent
oof my resamples will be 3x more than my boosted 2.4x sample... rip => guess I resample for that long term 7.5x gains
they're pretty cheap to get to 90%
I'd get em to 40 and go rings
u can prob get enough points to max with 2x prayer on happy hour
how to level bb? afk he gets little exp and active he gets relatively little exp
more GT
shouldnt need gt at lvl 180 :{
vman I went from 200-300 in a day, though he ofc has higher map
did forget crystal spawn star talent, maybe its better now
has anyone tested to see if the oysters can be popped inside kattle for orb kills?
oh thats big brain
just tested - they can be popped
do they add to orb?
no clue, aint got my squire there yet :p
thats cool
OH SNAP
lol
that could be broke
n
time to take my 450 oysters into kattle lol
You can do that in rift to lol

how would it benefit you in rift?
Got both DK challenges with envelops
oooooooh
The monsters boost it so I had lvl 100 talent and still got the 300 kills lol
at the beginning of w5 area and about to upgrade gear and balloon off skills to like 15-20 or so. would yall recommend stoning for main stat or accuracy stat on everything? kinda wanna do main stat for better prints and damage. accuracy feels fine for now but unsure if it ramps up hard at the later end of w5
you shouldn't need accuracy by now, balloons/gems dont work on new worlds as per usual
ah okay neat. kinda seemed like accuracy was popping off a bit. the balloons were more getting like gold tools for everyone or so for extra stat/upgrade slots
illl let you know
i've been meaning to do that for about a year and i still have some dudes with empty tool slots lol
lmao. the stats are pretty significant towards skilling ye? since they're base stats
thats the loot?
eh, dunno
kinda disappointing
Making progress
Why and how is ur dr so low?
they just meant purely from the orb bonus
oh
4.35 times my base 20.4 DR
lol
wait the orb is multiplicative on top of base DR? not additive?
thats what i have been told
It should be additive
it just counts as if you did 5 runs instead of 1 right?
from my orb understanding at least
lingo gets confusing since technically the 20.4 is already a 20x multiplicative from base 1
but if orb is a separate multiplicative to push that to like 80x thats insane
i think pimere has it
pretty sure 100 orb means every mob kill counts as 2
it counts as killing it 5 times
thats actually hype cause that would mean its a separate multiplier
which in effect, is the same thing as 1 kill with 5 times the DR
its not exactly the same, but for farming purposes it is
if anything it's actually better than 1 kill with 5x drop. the 5x drop is like an all or nothing but 5 rolls would be more consistent right?
probably yes
on IE, there is this info for vman, but is there something showing this info in Toolbox?
are the vmans weapon upgrades really that powerful? I feel like they are HELLA expensive
How do you unlink multiple characters at once at Divinity?
select multiple people when you're unlinking
click unlick and just select them all
So when I press unlink it opens a menu of which characters I want to Unlink?
yup
Thanks!
oh you haven't even tried it before asking? wow
I ain't willing to risk a week long cooldown
can someone help me out? i unlocked w5 / boss too, dont really know on what i should focus on right now what is the best character placement?
it resets when you unlock new god
you can unlink 2x per week.
get everyone to wurms for exp?
6 star when?
ahm good idea and is there a website for printer?
are you green stacking cards? 
so it might seem lol
what do you mean "website for printer"
:D:D:D:D i meant what i should print on different players
that's a w3 mechanic so just keep doing what you did in w3
well, that depends on what resources you need really
if you never figured it out, your skilling dudes print their skill items, and vman and bm print stuff for salts or greenstacking, your choice
I have a few keys can I do nightmare boss with my voidwalker ? The new boss the skull
20b recommended and about 30 minutes
Unless you have 10-20h time, nope.
88b dmg was around 12mins
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i dont even have 1 billion lmao
then you're gonna need alot of minutes
should I harvest blossoms here or wait for level 4?
not just blossom other plants too
okay what about another class can i do the boss for best chance drop new cape
not sure if my bubo
do you have 70m bits with a 27 nugget??
and not gaming lvl 40
is that bad? I just got the shovel yesterday, havent done much farming yet
I thought it was high but im just tripping, ignore me
yeah I just havent yet seen a level 4 blossom or bonsai so Im curious if I should wait or harvest them now, let others grow
I would wait, level 4 doesnt take that long
Is divinity just lab again
Early on you want to harvest more frequent to unlock mutations like berri bush thats 7x bits compared to bonsai at 4x or voraci at dont recall xD
one question I have about cactus is, if he is level 3, does he level other plants to level 3 or 4? and what if they are level 2 not 3
it is untill you unlock goat (5th god) then it becomes lab lab again
It does early on
I feel like its worth it in this case not to harvest so I can just see the level 4, for the score that gives you more bits
log book
I canโt believe to get better active playing this game you have to spend many hours not active playing the game
I'd just do what Trickz does / tells you to do
Afaik it' something along the lines that for each tier the cactus is, it gets a roll for an evo upgraded somewhat based on your mutations chance per cycle.
its an idle game after all
hi guys, should i turn on this import?
So a tier 2 cactus is 2 rolls on an upgrade. a tier 3 is 3 rolls on upgrades. Individual rolls. That's why sometimes you see a plant go up only 1 step or multiple steps.
I see, so just rng
basically just triggers some growth cycles for neighbouring plants
Basically i thought the same thing as you initially. But then soemone explained it to me with the individual rolls
isnt that just worse chem actually?
Still good for increasing your random plants then looting them
then again fungi is also just straight worse than blossom / berri bush
if you get lucky with the roll, somehow it was so consistent when used around level 1s I thought it always worked
Early on it would help, faster gaming cycles = faster dna genes to research more gaming mutations faster.
I'm overthinking this but... is the rarity of the resource make the resource give more atoms... for example the red ore gives more atoms than copper?
yeah I kill funguy at level 3 at most
10m = 1 atom. Simple, dot.
pretty sure from what I saw its best to use the material you can get the most off regardless of rarity
Oooo cool cool
For cost of atoms for atom bubbles in alchemy = Higher bubble => cost more atoms.
#1084911530417606656 has the atom cost/bubble upgrade
yeah my stats, but i can't upgrade more from now on
Because you haord to much dna... wtf 5k?!
is it better to get water couldren or one of the colors in gem shop? I bought water since it seems to never "expire", eventually you wont need colored ones when you get all the bubbles but I could be wrong
5k DNA = 1.1%
40ish DNA = 0.2-0.3%
You could have done 100+ rolls at 0.3% => accumulated chance of 30%, vs 1%
Does it actually work like that?
i tried with 1% but its not promising, so i increase it to 5% then reroll data
Not additive in the sense of you hit 30% and only 70 to go.
Just mean that mathimatically, having 100 chances of 0.2% is way better than 1x 1%
The diminishing returns arnt worth it.. Stop shooting yourself in the legs.
ah okay ty :<
Kitsune turned on, every harvest => click research
until you get chem.
Chem is a huge game changed for gaming
is kitsune the 500mill box?
btw is 27 nugget lucky for one of the first rolls with shovel?
Yeh, one of the first rolls is usually around 10ish i think? but either way click that shovel every hour, especially early on.
damn im faaar from the stone
how does it scale exatcly? is it the level of the skill?
Scale basically only increases the max roll chance. (tiny unnoticable chance to get a higher nugget and less lower nugget.
But (made up number) 99% of the time you'll still roll on like your lowest 1% of the range type of thing
If your range is 5-10k, you;ll nearly always see those 5-20s.
Very later on your range is like 200-500k and you'll still nearly always see 200-300s kinda thing
I understand but does that range scale with gamer level or something else?
Shovel level
but it says it only increases its speed
Shovel doesnt say speed?
i finally did it!
nevermind I mixed it up with sprinkler
Gz! Very nice!!!
May i ask roughly what dmg you had and if you recall, rough KPH on w3, 4, 5 kinda thing?
by the time i hit w4 most of my characters were at or over 1tril
whats up?
largely from the eclipse bonus' from the first 3 worlds
This was 2 upgrades to my shovel. Lower end barely moves.
310.8% Shovel = 310 to 493k
313.1% Shovel = 313 to 497k
Doot and basically camped 9-10 chars there?
8/10 but yeah
thats pretty shitty yeah
i stopped using VMan when i realized his kills get reset on portal runs
Riiight
So i was actively afking stiltmoles with bubo and suddenly He is in w2 town. What happened?
Got my third kattle trophy 
maybe you died?
wouldnt be w2 though?
little brother came to the pc when you werent looking
hit another milestone today!
2 more days for mine ๐ฆ
Living alone ๐คญ
Are you sure? check the cabinets and closets!
doesnt seem like it buddy
Finally have enough for seasalt
Xp go vroom
can someone tell me how many plants voraci spawns on each level?
dont want to overshoot it
what % of max is that?
120% is max
But technically impossible to get, no?
120% a waste of time =p
Bubble bonus vs bubble level
100% = 501
110% = 1100
115% = 2100
119.88% = 99'901 (99.9% bubble effy)
120% = (inf)
lol hell no
does >100% just mean theres a chance to get 3 levels at once?
Give like 15 years and i will make it
currently 15% of my clicks are +3
its only 50000 hours of hourly clicking
Only
well with the 15-19% chance to +3 it would be closer to about 40k hours
lets be reasonable and assume you only click 16 times a day, + 60 levels from atom, so 78 per day. Just gotta keep that up for a bit over 500 days and you're there
ezpz
Yo is 1 in 97 good crystal chance for 114 maestro W4 farming?
Its pretty low crystal spawn chance
wouldnt go for ccd farming yet
mman talent, crystal countdown
crystal card?
I see
is the squirel as important as the shovel?
should I just upgrade my fertilizer?
Finally living the 9 aura life
Also I just learned that theres a max to the cauldron boosts LOL
would couldren upgrade in the gem shop be considered a whale buy? Like when you get all the bubbles it will be usseles
cauldrons not that good but 1st liquid is very good
second?
less
why
because you need more 1st liquid
theres 10 bubbles per color for 1st liquid, only 5 for 2nd
and less vials for 2nd
yeah I see
Unless your active AFKing with bubo, the buys are definitely worth it.
Im not that far dude
Without them you're not getting close to that last unreleased bubble anytime soon
Ah then go for it
sailing falls off since its hard capped at 30
Yeah I can't speak to whether it's expensive or not for others. For me it was a no brainer.
Im so proud to say I bought the S tier without looking at these lists
Sup suggmas
btw should I be going for divinity buys after 2? not sure how much its gonna suck with just 2
purgatory I get youre a whale lol I know you wouldnt understand
The only thing I'm missing from that list is half of the pet and cog storage.
Those didn't feel worth completing
thats life until you get active bubo going
Bubo all day every day
I'd miss my DK. ๐ฆ But yeah probably. Just working on no lifing my iron bar vial.
Pretty sure at this point mine is filing a complaint with the labor union for overworking him
at what level can I active bubo?
200+ Tente talent
Eeeh you just need the 200 eye and a good aura really
At that point just set him on a mob that he can kill relatively fast
you can do without
Be sure to not use SB Talent 11 early on, unless you only check sailing once a day or worse.
its just a lot worse
More attempts at sailing artifacts is important
What's your bubo looking like right now @misty spindle
damn I have it at like 25% is that bad?
91 level with max book 140
Having it at all, makes your loot pile 1 smaller + how ever many boats you have less loot pile
Yeah a bit off for the eye. You'll get there eventually but I wouldn't say a year. Maybe a month or two depending on what you're doing.
how many trips would they need to make for it to be worth it? is 4 enouygh or is that still worse than just no talent (maxed boats and slots)
If your loot pile is 10, and you have 5 boats.
It would take you 4h to fill the 10 slots up, 2 laps, right? (and you only get 9)
Without the talent your boats will go out 1 extra time and hold an extra chest and stop at the dock (sacrificing extra captain xp from extra laps)
So after 6h you would have 15 chests instead of 9 chests.
one can hope dude, maybe after halloween event if I get enough gems and good rng with a lot of things, I rushed to W5 and didnt work on a lot of other stuff since I wasnt playing for some time
More chests is pretty much always worth it over the "potential chance to upgrade a chest and having 1+boat# chests less"
Unless you check barely once a day kinda thing, that's when chest rarity may get high enough to be decent compared to having the extra chests
there are 0 builds for siegebraker on idleon toolbox ffs
Alright, thanks
Because nearly every build is the same for elites xD
there arent any for elite classes, you just gotta big brain it
there was a doc actually with them
yeah but that doc also told you to max wis first on ES over actives
idk if youre joking but there are
oh okay
I don't fully vouch for it though, since i disagree with a few things
I was thinking of the one that used to be !fullguide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit#heading=h.58su7bp1vd3c
is the one I was thinking
Full Guide to Idleon By BananaMonkeyTaco & The Frozen Flames Guild In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics Updated for Elite Class Builds Intro Hello to anyone coming across this, I'm BananaMonkeyTaco (BMT for short). I'm going to steal this in...
forgot they added elites to that
btw is there a guide or a list for pet fighting? I only found one but it got deleted
^ thats the same doc that used to go around, -the companion stuff
Maxing wormhole pretty much first is. But after that it's all meh xD
dont you still want some points into the other active abilties? so yo8u can actually kill portal mobs
Also if you have 2nd ES/DK/SB you should never need the sail/game/div/ dr/xp/3d talents on your "main ones" as the 2nd ones should be running it at all time
is the family bonus talent good? I always ignored it
Depends on the goal of your ES. thats why elite early on is subjective too. most builds are.
yeah I guess thats true
You use it to breakpoints based on the wiki, it's only for that char itself. but if a few points gets you an extra talent everywhere it's nice. But still better to get the 2-3 aoes first.
Is it a good idea to push with ES, Im kinda knee deep with him so it would be stupid to go for other but idk
Bubo and DK would be the most beneficial to properly push through w5. since they are the onle 2 needed at wurms (last zone w5)
Although getting some early push on ES is fine, for the extra XP
god damnit
Can wait with bubo until you have 200+ tente to maximize water/alch gains
Gz! ๐
Kattle necklace and wings in the same kill ๐ 6 scarfs 4 trophies now
Sighโฆ. I failed on 13 and went back to zeroโฆ ๐ข
should get atom
thanks. im gonna pump so many encourages onto this last level before 20 checkpoint
Yeah thanks ๐
yeah bro u need the atom
Guys
Well obviously lol, I didnโt have the prints to get that many atoms, but now I do so the grind begins
I found a lvl 1 beginner at "the worm nest"
talking about it can get you warned
since its not legal gameplay
i have Screenshot
yes but don't send it, its a cheater
Get that atom upgrade. Stat!
Can my eggs be upgraded to more then bronze with just 1.50 chance?
Where and how
read rules
Not sure the right method, but check the rules for #bug-reports-๐ ? or report them ingame if that button even does anything
Saying they saw something weird isnt going to get them warned lol
the rule is about discussing the actions
ah, my bad
So Rashaken, whats the best method to report people like that? abusers etc. in their case?
Unless there's some weird method where a vman's unlock transfers to a beginner one 
that would be insane, start leveling 11th char at wurms
I sendet it
What is that M?
the M stands for million, the 10 above it means that its 10m. Every 10m items in your storage gives you a greenstack, which gives %dmg bonus once you unlock the lab node.
Check your lab for full details.
How to wipe/reset data?
this is fr a bad joke
Can't unless you make a new account (new ios/google account i guess?)
How
should be very easy to make new account on browser at the very least
Yeah but how to log into another acc
what's the best area to farm golden hampters?
Cant help with 0 info. At least mention stuff like what platform you play on..
And you could just google "how to make a new apple account" or google app store or whatever ๐คท
then why you asking
Im saying how to log into another acc
what platform??
Phone
...
ios or android??
im done xD
Press logout...
Android
Where
use a new email
HOW
player menu > logout
But when i sync up i cant select the e-mail
its asked for so frequently i have the image set up for easy access lol
lol
does ccd give reduction for skills that are at max already?
it can still target them yes
My issue is when someone asked something, ignores the questions one asks about it. Then continues to ask how or what, and doesn't try anything themselves.
Salt water draconic cauldron when?
Id say just point them to the wiki
is it worht making diabolical set before troll set? its like 2k nullo setback but +4 slab
Still doesnt work
could craft a nullo set if I farm the stuff for it
yes it does, you did it wrong
You camp chizoar. until troll->Magma
alright, the slab can wait? or craft it if I can reach a slab breakpoint with it?
Id just wait, slab is okay but way better to get proper gear first 
alright, thanks
And dia is a lot of salt for early on
i didnt even make dia until i had magma on all
oh wow
Also either way, chizoar is most likely still better dmg than dia..
guess its time to farm 3 twines and some clogs
Same with lustre, those anvil gears usually just suck
yeah saw that troll set has 8 upgrade slots, seems insane
Also by the time you arnt time gated by salt for troll, you should basically be able to get magma pretty much right away
I didnt, i can send u a pic but its in spanish so u wouldnt understand
td time :{
I promise you did, I've helped so many people login to a new account on android using that image
Gooood luck! (which one?)
Lol my w4 is my lowest one.. other stuff 110-130, w4 80 xD
my w4 also 80 
Really should go back and do it too.. but damn the TD...
yeah takes so long :{
this reminds me I need to try for perfect skull with kruk stones 
What wave are you hoping for?
idk
Yeah prob i did it wrong since translating text from english to spanish is so hard
higher one I guess?
Whats your poion at?
28
google the same thing in spanish then, thats where the image comes from
or first go to language -> english, then do it, then change language again
I did and i did the steps, but its different, "log in" is hard to translate to spanish since it have a lot of meanings in spanish
I like how this guide mentions something about void but doesnt tell me where to put it >:
that set up is wrong
is there a guid on where to farm obols?
Thanks
depends on the obol
you can also put void/ice underneath the kraken
Pop at gigafrogs on ES, dice at pots / snelbies, cons at blood bones
just obol fragments also pots / snelbies
Should I start with a boulder somewhere?
or just go straight to poison
no
alright
"tap google"? There isnt any google setting and if it means the app it doesnt have "manage ur google acc"
its a phone setting, not the game setting
Yeah ik
Ya likely need to delete account on google sign-in
no need to delete anything
you can now
Hey guys trying to help my bud out. He got doot before he was in w5, he just got there now and has the first god unlocked, I thought he would instantly have all gods active?
need div lvl 2 on active char
So div level 2 on every char then heโll get the bonus?
@coral goblet might as well get div 2 on every char
Yeah
Dope Iโll let him know to do that asap
They will still need to unlock each divinity in time
yeah that is very recommended
Yeah but less prio for a bit
But theyโll get the link bonuses for everything from div level 2
The blessings need the divinity unlocked and then upgraded still
Man lucky him imagine starting w5 with a doot lol
Thereโs a few doing that
just put all chars in div until they hit div 2
then move ~6 of them to lab
With doot he does not need annymore lab tho
Something to pass across too, thereโs no fractional exp in game, so since the div exp gains start so low, you have to watch the claim times
He needs the chip slots
you still need some lab levels and chip slots
But probably not for awhile Iโd guess
and more div levels = better minor bonus so still good
Doubt he had many chips at all
also true
If exp is 2/hr, then any claim thatโs not on the half hour youโll lose exp
but I dont think he'll even reach the right-most node if he went through w4 pretty fast
If he has a bubo he can speed lvl all his chars with only bubo instead of having to put that manny guys in lab
Thatโs an option too
dont think it'll be levelling that fast
Ooo good point
No, but could be a valid option
Slower lab leveling but only one char commitment
but then you still arent getting more div levels for minor bonus
Well with all the extra afk gains from the gods he prob gains quite a bit of xp
Itโs so much easier to go back and get div exp once he has more multipliers
And artifacts
true
I would reccomend him to just lvl all chars to unlock mantra and put everyone on mantra for a while
Iโd go get div 2, fix lab, then worry about div again
I think Iโll have him finish w4 on every char so he can start working towards troll armor soon for w5 armor, work on pets to unlock snailbie to omegaboost account with cooking gains
no need to push through w4 on alts
Now that heโll get elephant procs on everyone all his content should start boosting
he isnt gonna have nullo anyway for a troll set
You do, just not a prio
True
and by the time he does itll be multiple times faster
Mine is still whack
Just tell him to put his chars in w5. Its better xp gains and better to progress w5 insteqd of 4
I got to w5 early july and only just got enough nullo for a troll set, so gonna take like a month
Lab bonuses are good though
Yeah and get more talent points in all tabs
Just need to be able to light everything with all chars
And then just go back and finish w4 a little after
I think with all 10 active on doot he should light up everything even with low lab levels
Full chip unlock can wait
Might be wrong
Itโs possible to not
I dont think he will
If he does great, but if not fix that
I guess my lab width was probably big by the time I got doot so Iโm comparing wrong
Once youre able to setup more chars on omni, that'll help a bunch too
Doesnโt take long
he also isnt gonna have the multipliers from food, or max pixel length from merit
thats with doot, forgot to mention
Do you guys know how many dmg I need on a barbarian to be able to nightmare kruk
I just got overwhelmed with mobs even tho I one shot adds but I canโt out dps them healing on a barb
Same as on everyone pretty much 10-20b would be enough but take some time.
Vman longer due to terrible AOE and preferably 40b+/- for a 20-30min run on vman
If you can one hit moles itโs just a matter of attention and time
yep
Okay Iโm still a bit off then
I got to boss map with 1b, can prob do chaotic insta then damn
With nm kruk the more damage you have the less time and more forgiving it is
didnt manage that in any of the other worlds 
Thereโs no hard minimum damage though
My es kills it in like a minute now, barb diff
With low dmg you'll be balancing around the moles a bunch.
VMAN run as an example here:
#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ message

My best ES kills it without a single mole reaching it
So I was like sweet! I can get the scarf recipe
No. No I cannot
Yeah same on auto itโs nice ๐
OH MAN, this is going to take like an hour.
do you just have that video linked pasted somewhere or do you just always ctrl f it?
I got the wings drop for the quest but wasnโt on that part of the quest yet ๐
Possibly a few
Ctrl F my name and search keywords
might just not be doable
Always post it xD
https://i.imgur.com/Y4wGCPU.png
ah yeah pretty fast if just vid shows that
ah
wooooooooo just went from 10k nugget to 24k!!!
only spend 8 minutes on wave 80 :}
You can get snail now if you havenโt
We'll get there, still need chem ๐ฆ
got to wave 90, wonder how long that'll take...
@vocal ibex I fixed my own question. Was typing here went back into game and it appeared after earning a few divinity.
managed to get doot pet, and was wondering how that actually works
based on my intuition it should make all my characters connected to the lab thanks to arctis
yep
and briefly i saw that, but then they all disconected
just make sure to link 1 char to purr
you need div lvl 2 on active char
so just get lvl 2 div on al lchars
Hey ! Can I use my Vman to put 100 pts in each base stats buff, then do the build accordingly on all my char, and restats onto the other buff on my Vman and still keep the +200 talent levle in base stats on other char plz ?
BTW how are they going to get lab exp in the future with those downsides also active?
You can book those Vman talents too
you wont get the %stat though
indeed ! Won't go really far but 147 better than 100 xD and thanks for the anwsers !
you mean the base stats gonna dissapear but since I don't have much point yet, i have to make a choice and I thoguht the other buff were better ๐
got 100 which is great
Lets you do things like this on other classes ๐
btw I got 8 portal on my 1str run cause i got stuck on board, should I fight amarok on normal difficulty to go to W2 ? or we are confined to W1 and i have to unlock the tree ect ?
No confinements at all. NM version of boss is worth 3 portals, but does still cost keys. You are free to skip ahead straight to another world if you so choose.
Does it means higher version give more portals ? and i can tp and unlock any portal ๐ฎ ?
xD 200-230 ish talent level tho :ooooo
NM is worth 3, Chaotic is worth 2, Normal is worth 1 portal. You can only redeem portals from each World Boss once per run, so you may as well do Nightmare
oh right NM is nightmare not Normal xD
You will each of the World Towns available to TP to right away. Just remember that later worlds have higher HP, thus you have less Multikill Damage Tiers. Later worlds also generally have higher portal unlock requirements. There isn't a lot of great skips you can do until you're comparing [end of a world] to [start of the next], but then you're missing the portals from the boss ๐ค
With 4M dmg vman, I'll do chaotic i think xD
So basically the start is rush until amarok, kill it then tp W2 and go until Efaunt and it should be over on the run ?
Oh okaay
You would still have to unlock W2 in the same fashion as w1. You can't skip straight to the boss
But you can TP from inside Amarok's room right to Sandy Pots for W2. You don't NEED to unlock Gigafrogs, Sticks, Nuttos, etc.
Yeah that what I meant with beign over on the run to the efaunt tomb map xD
Anyone got the W5/6 equipment pictures?
Alright ! With the giga multi buff i should use it to unlock the tree map on the slimes and at the board (maybe only one of them since the CD or maybe come back afterward ?)
Down in #bot-commands , use !gear command
Thanks
It is all going to depend on your account. There is a suggested optimized route in #1084911530417606656 but it is going to require a lot more damage than it sounds like you have right now.
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1109526896640807002
is midas good to max?
Yes. You may consider doing it bit by bit if you're worried the extra HP will cause you not to 1shot Tremor Wurms
havent even reached them 
Thanks a lot for this ! Just unlocked it today so yeah kinda weak, main dmg is a bit below 100m x)
Are obols that big of a deal for sampling?
Big enough to be worth farming, yes
Damn, thereโs not enough circle obol space to keep everything
Oh thats true huh, lab rats can be obol storage slaves too
Anyone else, you can swap Obols around from character to character ๐คท
Maybe stray away from "slave" though
so neat ๐ฎ !! Is there a start about when to upgrade or discard to create fragment ?
reroll the left one before upgrading
I went for 3x POP sets, then 1 for each skill: Mining, Chopping, Catching, Fishing, Construction, Worship, and Trapping. The last 2 (Worship and Trapping) are kidna optional, not as strong.
Everything else I only leveled for +slab counts
skill obols are from alch only right?
w1 and w2, yes. W3 obols drop from the enemies in w3
What does it change (never used that feature xD) ?
gives more stats
if you dont reroll you get +3 from silver obol, if oyu do you get +4
and rerolling at lowest rarity is the cheapest
alright and I guess it gets transfered if it get upgraded ? So i'm a bit earlier than getting skilling preset (never got any beside trapping, wor, construction) so should I just salvage all the stats obol directly into fragements ?
