lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dreamy spruce]

Nah don't farm kills on vman

Opening it doesn't matter afaik

[empty ridge]

Ah okay lol,

[brisk cloud]

What did everyone open for their third island? Or plan on opening

[paper sail]

Vman copies your highest character, up to 2m.

[paper sail]

Trash. Shimmer, and Seasalt are the recommended first 3 islands

[dreamy spruce]

Ah that's how it works, thanks. I assume exception is made for w5 mobs like moles where you need more than 2m kills?

[hoary light]

anyone have any tips on trying to get bars faster from the smeltery? trying to max out the copper/iron bar vials lol

[frigid acorn]

Login archer every 2min

Leave them at gmush

[opaque sun]

Or use many many 1hr candy for fastest irl time

[hoary light]

ah i see the thought process, so that perk works with afk kills? I had assumed it was only active kills

valid

[opaque sun]

Smelt talent works afk and also counts multikill if afk, while when active it only counts base kills

Weirdly, BM’s enhanced whale ability has similar description but that only works active

[hoary light]

ohhhh so It's much ebtter offline

[pearl cedar]

Hmm gains kinda small

[paper sail]

Good question. I know the maps are Opened based on highest character too. They still might only contribute 2m to DN but I would have to look

[hoary light]

lmao bro seeing ppl with 400+ afk always boggles my brain

[opaque sun]

Like a 2min afk of smelt basically caps out as 2min worth of gmush kills is more than enough to smelt what the forge capacity can hold

[hoary light]

like i'm at 150 and I feel like that's pretty good

[opaque sun]

And a single afk claim can only smelt up to one filling worth of forge cap

[zealous niche]

Have access to tremor worms on my vman despite only having 2M mole and mini worm kills

[dreamy spruce]

Ah okay, thanks

[paper sail]

@zealous niche Which islands do you recommend as first 3 if not Trash, Shimmer, and Seasalt? Can't just me and then not explain lol

[zealous niche]

Seasalt second

I then realised it was a bit far back

[paper sail]

I provided a group of 3, not an order, but I see what you're after

[zealous niche]

So wasn’t sure if it’d be relevant still

I regret seasalt being third. I’ve gotten more out of seasalt in a day vs shimmer for a week

[paper sail]

They only asked for 3rd island without telling which 2 they already had lol

[zealous niche]

Ah, maybe reading is hard ><

[opaque sun]

Early seasalt was basically just like 10 more bottles compared to early shimmer

[paper sail]

Yeah that's fair

[opaque sun]

So isnt much of a loss

[paper sail]

I wish I had gone Seasalt second too

[opaque sun]

if you were lucky, you would have gotten like 80 shimmer points if the trials you got was easy ones

[zealous niche]

No, but short term it’s better second despite being inconsequential long term

[bold quiver]

i reached wave 50 without kraken, would i lose the achiev if i placed one now?

[opaque sun]

You gonna get the other one as 3rd anyway

[edgy mulch]

any one have everything unlocked in gamming ?? im kind of wonder were are the big stall miles stone parts ... im up to green bits and its getting slugish now

[zealous niche]

Have you got the achievement?

[bold quiver]

nothing showed up '.'

[zealous niche]

Wait until it does

[opaque sun]

So its between 10 bottles (seasalt as 2nd) or 16-80 more shimmer points (shimmer 2nd)

[bold quiver]

it still hasnt

ah im just gonna place krakens, dont wanna do a rerun

[zealous niche]

10 bottles, talent points, slab and skill mastery progress

[opaque sun]

Besides the 10 bottles, you can get those even if you choose as 3rd island

[zealous niche]

Yes, long term the choice is irrelevant

[opaque sun]

You are in much much better shape than those who picked island from left to right

[zealous niche]

Oh for sure, but I still think I would have been in a better shape with the seasalt second vs third

[opaque sun]

I kind of got unlucky with shimmer as the first two random trials were something i can only go up to 8 pts at best like those damn kill giant trial

[paper sail]

I had Defense and Total LUK as my first 2 shimmer trials

Waiting for something juicy

[opaque sun]

also giant trial seems to suck that if the giant big bubble triggers, it doesnt count

like its asking me “maybe you should trash that sheepie this week. Just suggesting man”

[paper sail]

So it is based on your odds at the end then? Only giants that lessened your odds count?

[opaque sun]

Seems to be by the giant odd tier

[paper sail]

Sounds like some lazy tracking lol

[opaque sun]

And even then, at the end of the week its like 8 pts to 9 pts

and you cant really do much about giants unlike stats and stuff

[fading cape]

Spend half an hour setting up bowman to set traps on everyone. Get everything in line. Delete all traps. Lay new traps.

Go to reset cards... forgot to put card set on 50% efficiency...... cool....

[opaque sun]

bowman you mean by BM?

[zealous niche]

https://tenor.com/view/padme-gif-24474700

[west pasture]

How long does divinity take from lvl 0 to unlocking goat god and is there any way to make it faster (exp/div points wise)

[prime drift]

just checking my understanding but Gaming is kind of like breeding in that you come back and check on it every few hours, and don't need to leave someone there to get exp like you do with cooking or lab?

[vagrant jetty]

its based on how many bits you get so id suggest doing gaming on DK

[wary girder]

is it best to put bubo on sigils or keep him on cauldron and others on sigils?

[pearl cedar]

Finish leveling cauldrons then everyone on sigils forever

[wary girder]

so dont even worry about sigils till cauldrons are done?

[opaque sun]

Sigil gives 2x exp like in liquid btw

[north juniper]

253m and 10.27

[opaque sun]

but else a non bubo works just as same as a bubo on a sigil

[north juniper]

Cauldrons and Sigils but not liquids iirc

[paper sail]

Bubble cauldrons don't give any bonus exp. It is the liquid cauldron and sigils.

[north juniper]

Yup

[paper sail]

There is no need to do gaming on DK. All of their bonuses are family / account wide.

[gentle anchor]

how can i filter crystal stamps?

[paper sail]

Turn in the quest.

[north juniper]

^

[gentle anchor]

and forfeit it?

[north juniper]

Just finish it

[paper sail]

Crystals only drop Crystallin while the quest is active. Finish the quest and they stop dropping it.

The w1 quest on Gigafrogs map

[wanton obsidian]

I got these from the world 5 card pack :OO

Actually massive

Such a pain I just resampled :DD

But I appreciate it 😂

[modern plaza]

yall aren’t done with all gold sigils yet? i’ve already started on onyx sigils

[tawny jetty]

jesus, how are you onto onyx already

are you using all 10 chars on sigils?

[prisma drift]

My sigils are made of cardboard

[paper sail]

Onyx Sigils aren't real and they can't hurt you

Yet

[tawny jetty]

oh lol

im was litterally logging on to go see if i could level up gold sigils lol

So afk gains compared to active gains....afk gains are about 1% of active gains? is that an accurate measurement? my recent tests seem pretty consisent with that....

[paper sail]

There is no real easy comparison. Way too many differences

[tawny jetty]

its def dependant on class...

[paper sail]

and crystal spawn chance

A lot of mechanics are online only, like crystals, DK Respawna and Orb, SB Plunder, ES wormhole, Bubo respawn and CC, yada yada

[tawny jetty]

I did loose testing, that have no repeatability or reproducability. I cannot defend my disocvery outcome with statistically significant data

[wanton obsidian]

It's pretty ironic how you don't start sigils till end game but the rewards are pretty small

[tawny jetty]

is midway through w4 end game?

[wanton obsidian]

Uh no

[tawny jetty]

i mean id consider sigils pretty early game

you dont finish them for, fucking forever

[wanton obsidian]

The first few maybe but after that it's not worth it at all

[tawny jetty]

They are 90% trash, i cant argue that

[wanton obsidian]

Like compare sigils to alchemy bubbles and vials 💀💀

[tawny jetty]

weakest part of alchemy for sure, but they do make alchemy stronger

he added strength to already the strongest mechanic in the game

[wanton obsidian]

It's like comparing a tree to a tiny grass

[tawny jetty]

so you dont add a ton of str to them

[sullen scaffold]

This is definitely the best world 5 bonus from the gemshop

[wanton obsidian]

Some wouldn't agree but that's what I first bought

I heard it's not that useful later tho

[paper sail]

Say psych right now 🔫

[wanton obsidian]

Was I wrong?

[paper sail]

First rank of golden sprinkler is 100% the best

[wanton obsidian]

Oh sorry I thought it was the divinity sparkie 💀

[bright current]

fellas im proud to announce i finally got a captain with 2 (1% off) max stats

2x cloud discover rate

[wanton obsidian]

Wow!

Oh

Nvm

[bright current]

so worthless

[wanton obsidian]

Hahahaa

I was happy for you for a sec lmao

[bright current]

i just want a good green captain

[zealous niche]

Bobjoepickle is there for you

[bright current]

If nobody got me, i know bobjoe got me

[wanton obsidian]

I'm there for you

[bright current]

[paper sail]

I had a 92% loot greenie this morning

[bright current]

[paper sail]

Their max loot is 67, or 134 total.. That's like a C

high D I guess. They tried.

[modern plaza]

im just playing a different game

[bright current]

dont give him any ideas on onyx sigils

pls

also, finally finished gettin all red skulls. back to eclipsing shit

[twilit goblet]

Hi guys, for logging sampling, is severabuble (the one that gives bonus to a couple few other bubbles) the next bubble to pump to 85%? already got hocus choppus and le brain tools and bubble 2 to 85%

[gentle furnace]

yes

[twilit goblet]

ty

guess this is where all my atoms go to now

after that, slabe wisdom and slabe logsoul? wonder if the bonuses they give are big enough, since it is based on slab

[paper sail]

[fathom lagoon]

Does anyone know if there’s a star sign guide out there

[median horizon]

Is the strat really to sit at divinity for 1wk before i can resume playing the game once i hit w5

[paper sail]

Guide to what, exactly?

[fathom lagoon]

Nvm found the griffy one

Just looking to see the best ones & path & how to get the perm effects

Wait he didn’t cover how to make ‘em perm lol

Do you know how? @paper sail

[paper sail]

Breeding > Shiny Pets

[fathom lagoon]

Oo got it thanks brotha

[paper sail]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1099088196027027606

[median horizon]

Does any skill affect divinity exp?

[paper sail]

There are some sources of Divinity EXP, but "all exp" doesn't work on Divinity. Double AFK claims does though, so slap on Biggie Hours card

[median horizon]

Thank you my friend

[opaque sun]

its considered specialized skill of mages so that mage talent to raise exp of specialized skill works on divinity

[zealous niche]

Mage specialised +exp works on div now

[fathom lagoon]

So how does that work? I choose which ones to make permanent I guess? Saw there’s 5 pets that provide infinite starsign, I have the squirrel shiny already too

[paper sail]

Is that all Mages or just specifically ES?

[paper sail]

No, they become perma in a set order. Each shiny pet rank gives +2 more

You need all 5 at level 5, plus one of them to level 6 to make all current available signs permanent / infinite

[fathom lagoon]

Ahh ok so you can continue to + them up

So is the meta to have all of those shinies in the fence all the time? At max rank

It also negates the down side of the signs right?

[paper sail]

+shiny speed is generally most important, since it decreases the time needed on the rest of the pets

I did the infinite star sign pets as second priority though

[fathom lagoon]

Kk bet thanks bro I appreciate it

Got a lot done on my acct today lol

[paper sail]

and you can stack multiple of the same shiny pet to decrease the time needed, too

[fathom lagoon]

Been putting off this starsign shit foreverrrrrr finally pushed to hydron & unlocked the cloud thingy

Can equip 3 stars now

[zealous niche]

@fathom lagoon the infinite star signs unlock in roughly the same order you unlocked them initially

Same order you unlocked the starsigns initially*

[paper sail]

Infinites don't skip any though, like you probably did when unlocking 😛

[fathom lagoon]

So question, I have the shiny squirrel in my fence yard rn. How do I know which signs are infinite? Only 1 is lit up which is the one I’m aligned with

[paper sail]

They will have the infinity symbol next to them

[fathom lagoon]

It’s only rank 1 if that matters

Weird none of mine do lol

[paper sail]

Well, let me back up.. Did you unlock it in Rift to begin with? 😂

[fathom lagoon]

Ohhhhh

Nope lol

[paper sail]

Haha, my bad

I think it is the bonus at rift 11?

[fathom lagoon]

Thank you that explains it 😂

Oh sweet I’m close then

[paper sail]

Yeah, 11

Once you get that, the shiny pets will start working. Sorry, I forgot to mention that part

[fathom lagoon]

Sweet thanks my friend

I’m at 6 let’s see how far I can push it

[zealous niche]

You can start leveling the pets for benefit when you get there anyway if you wish

[dapper prism]

I forgot, were card drops affected by mk in either combat or skilling?

[boreal cosmos]

why the fuck do all of the ships stack on top of each other

so i cant see how long each is taking..

[dapper prism]

IE will show it, still annoying af though. Great UI design /s

But for me it was way easier to un-assign every captain, then check IE for base speed on boat and add captains to hit certain breakpoints for certain islands.

[lament jasper]

Imagine sailing

[boreal cosmos]

ill have to try messing with that when i have more time

right now i have so many to assign its just a mess

[fathom lagoon]

Damn is there any way to cheese afk in rift? Or you legit gotta afk there

[fathom lagoon]

Yee I have em lvling at the moment, should be rank 2 tmrw

[dapper prism]

You can technically pre plan the afk rifts and instantly complete it

Let's say you have a few random Rift tasks, then an afk, and you know "ima do these rifts tomorrow" you can toss some characters into rift and stay there afk, dont login. Do those active rift things first. then login to those alts and it'll calc all the kills you would have done. The kph is not based on the ones you started at when u logged out, but the ones that are there when you login, so kph may be less.

[fathom lagoon]

Oooooh true good idea

Will note that for the future lol

I’m on rift 10 now bout to get 11 after this afk

[dapper prism]

Also be sure to superchow on BB

[fathom lagoon]

Ah shit yea

Good call

[dapper prism]

Probably later, since i doubt u have decent kph or mk

[fathom lagoon]

I’ll stop at 11

[dapper prism]

Get 16

[autumn wasp]

u gotta make sure u can actually make it to the afk stage tho

[fathom lagoon]

Yea but I’m patient lol

[autumn wasp]

i was stuck for like a month with half my characters afk

[fathom lagoon]

Whatchu mean

[dapper prism]

For rift usually 16 is the important one, at the time you push r11 you most likely wont even have breeding lvl 40+ to make it work.

[autumn wasp]

make sure u can beat the stage between ur current stage and the afk stage

[fathom lagoon]

I do I got breeding lvl 49 I think

[autumn wasp]

if you cant ur characters are stuck afk and u cant log in

[fathom lagoon]

Oh shit lmao

How do you escape that 😂

[autumn wasp]

i had to swap my barb to dk lmao

[fathom lagoon]

Wow lol

[autumn wasp]

i had 2 barbs so wasnt terrible

[fathom lagoon]

Are those chars still bricked?

[autumn wasp]

nah that was a while ago

[fathom lagoon]

Sheesh gg

[autumn wasp]

i was stuck on the clear the whole map before respawns tage

[rugged thistle]

does drop rate increase card drop chance?

[zealous niche]

Not bricked, just wasted time if you claim the afk gains on a rift that doesn’t need it

[fathom lagoon]

Ohh so you can log in still lol

[zealous niche]

Yeah, but if you claim afk gains when the rift isn’t asking for afk kills you get nothing

[dapper prism]

but card chance is still better if u need cards. especially for skilling

[untold lintel]

im bricked

[dapper prism]

Also, you can snapshot card chance when entering a map (with card chance cards) then switch to drop rate cards, and u will have both working until you leave or open certain ui like gemshop

[rugged thistle]

im trying to get boss cards

[dapper prism]

Then maximize card chance, also best use a class like vman

Be sure to lvl the star talent too

[rugged thistle]

would entering the boss room with max orb stacks then kills boss add more drop chance?

[dapper prism]

No, if u change a map with orb u lose the benefit.

vman is used for card farming at bosses

Alternatively if vman (mman) is to weak, an archer would be better than DK/ES for bosses due to their DR talent too.

[sleek tree]

whats the best reward to claim on shimmer island

?

[dapper prism]

Probably base stats or some effy for samples. Apparently total dmg is its own multiplier and also decent.

But base stats can be decently* strong overall

[sleek tree]

whats the difference betwen base stats and others types?

[dapper prism]

sec, making a gif

[sleek tree]

xD

[dapper prism]

easy words, its multiplied by all multipliers

[zealous niche]

Base stats get multiplied by other stat multipliers. Total stat is added on top of everything else and not multiplied

[sleek tree]

Thanks

[dapper prism]

23'246 Wis to 23'327 Wis (Gained 81 Wis, from an item that only had 6 wis more, 30 vs 36)
https://i.imgur.com/39QQ4iK.gif

[rugged thistle]

like this?

[sleek tree]

thanks

[dapper prism]

My DR setups
https://i.imgur.com/uBiC3GN.png

In your case, you'd want the 4th image.

Also placement of cards may not be fully relevant for you now, but still good to copy the 1st and last card due to chip doublers once you get them.

So setting it up properly ahead of time means you wont have to worry later on.

And for cards 2 through 7 i just like them in order of highest benefit to lowest. (for once they are all 5*)

[formal minnow]

I didn't think you lost the benefit, just the visual effect of the orb?

If I'm wrong I would not be surprised, just thought somebody had said they had tested it and seemed to keep the effects, but not the ability to increase them

[bold quiver]

@signal osprey wow if u beat 120 - 130 rly is a free ride wtf

[bold quiver]

why do u have so many DR setups

[zealous niche]

Your orb resets to 0 if you change

If it’s still active it’ll start counting again invisibly, but map change is equivalent to starting a new invisible orb with a shorter duration

[raven vale]

What's the best platform to hit 60 Wormhole Rift 44?
Currently using the smallish platform to the right with monster spawns on it already.
Would the really tiny jump up one be better?

Hitting 49/60 at the moment, getting a few more talent levels etc to try push the last 11

[bold quiver]

left platform when entering rift

[raven vale]

down here?

[bold quiver]

left side of u

[raven vale]

ok cool i was up here

[formal minnow]

Ah so I just had it backwards, good to know

[bold quiver]

bad place

[raven vale]

Thanks Brave

[bold quiver]

nop good luck man

its around 100B dmg to get it done

between 100-150B, depending on your talents lvl

[raven vale]

a few 100k lampars away from this, plus i'll throw on some better food.
Currently 85B

[bold quiver]

niceee. U could try with 85B and good talents, maybe it work

i had 140B when i did and it was overkill

[raven vale]

yeah i thought 49/60 in a bad spot wasn't too far off

[bold quiver]

damn it took me 4 f hours to clear 130 W5 td

what a stupid thing bro

[raven vale]

i dont thing talent levels are too shabby

[bold quiver]

oh those are very good levels

cant get much better than that

[raven vale]

tornado is a bit poop but need more books

[bold quiver]

tornado breakpoint is every 20 seconds

[raven vale]

mm 6 more for next then

[bold quiver]

remember to get a bunch of levels on that extra cast skills

the extra tornados are insane

[raven vale]

yeah im lacking on talent points, need to farm some straw and pust to atom range

its at 189, 47%

[bold quiver]

hmm good enough

yeah just need around 20-25B dmg and u will be fine

oihhh im happy yay

[raven vale]

damn son

[bold quiver]

finaly done here

[untold lintel]

got my first dice dynamo trophy

very trash didnt know that

but cool for slab?

[raven vale]

pretty much

[bold quiver]

yeah its whatever

slab is kinda sad cuz a bunch of limited items are in there

[untold lintel]

i think its time to start farming for vman, got to do 1m kills deathnote quest

[bold quiver]

so its something u look knowing u wont ever complete, takes the fun away imo

limited items shouldnt be added to slab

[vernal gulch]

Why no ice shards jw?

[raven vale]

Would recommend BB for chow stacks

[bold quiver]

"oh u lost the release event from 1998? sorry u wont ever complete this

[raven vale]

only recommended for afk

it pops on basic attacks only

[vernal gulch]

Ahhh most my stuff afk lol

[raven vale]

nothing here either, delays your spells

[vernal gulch]

I’d just be sitting on so many extra skill points I’m stuck at 160 for max lol

[foggy apex]

how i can barely get 20 let alone 150

[zealous niche]

More damage and talent levels

[foggy apex]

recommended damage?

[twin token]

Why am i only getting 3x prints on es? He's linked to arctis with the print node on and 2nd link is hare

[zealous niche]

Enough to quickly kill the plunderous mob

[twin token]

I just switched my 2nd es to hare on talent and it went from 2x to 3x too

[silver comet]

Just doot then no problem

[versed cypress]

is it possible to go over 130 in the goblin or the moon moon TDs???

[zealous niche]

Definitely in goblin, probably in desert too

[foggy apex]

i got to 110 but it just jumped back to 75?!

[raven vale]

vman eclipse

[zealous niche]

Have you got vman enhancing it?

[foggy apex]

oh my god

yes

[floral jackal]

How do you get more afk gains I seen people gotten over 100% afk gains

[twin token]

U stack afk gains

They come from lots of sources

[zealous niche]

Probably don’t do that for the achievement

Anybody have the TD guides about?

Can’t see them in w3/4 pins anymore

[twin token]

It's in the guide right

For like 120-130 or whatever for last prayer

[zealous niche]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[twin token]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[dapper prism]

How is 2 presets "many"?
1 for cards which can be used to snapshot.
1 for DR.

The alternative pic isn't an extra preset, it's a reminder especially for people who don't have the 2x event DR sets that they can use the cards there instead. and for myself just incase i need/care.

[dapper prism]

Gratz on 130's!

[zealous niche]

We are offended at foresight and organisation

How dare

[raven vale]

wish me luck xD
Great success, next rift unlocked

[foggy apex]

should i not level pirate flag to max?

[raven vale]

not for the achievement if you're not quite there

lowest level for lowest HP on the plunder mobs

[dapper prism]

No, because all youd do is make yourself take a lot more time to kill them. if youre going for that 150 killl stuff, plus u want fast/quick plunderous kills at all times for the DR talent.
You do want to level plunder ye deceased to increase the coin drop timer

[modern plaza]

ya’ll dont have 1m plunder kills yet!?

[raven vale]

no

i touched grass once, it held me back

[modern plaza]

that’s why i got artificial grass

[dapper prism]

What is grass?

[modern plaza]

now i can play outside without getting bugbites

[raven vale]

some weird plant thing

[pure ember]

What's the highest afk gains nowadays....400%?

[dapper prism]

Oh ewww.. you eat it?

[raven vale]

wouldn't trust it

[dapper prism]

I get to like 430% (wood)

[pure ember]

Or was that before divine scarf?

[modern plaza]

2k%

[pure ember]

....... w t...

How?

Doot, scarf, I get....

[dapper prism]

He obviously trolling

[modern plaza]

on IS

[zealous niche]

Suspicion

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/1m2YovN.png

[pure ember]

In my defense.....

[modern plaza]

that’s actually godly wow

[pure ember]

I should have gone to sleep 2 hrs ago

Need to be up in 6 hrs...

[dapper prism]

Why even sleep, #wasteOfTime

[placid mural]

Anybody checked to see if there is a beta locked update?

[zealous helm]

Is it possible to sample pearler shells?

[modern plaza]

anything Trickz says just multiply it by 5

[placid mural]

No

[raven vale]

hahaha i wish

[dapper prism]

You can only sample main drop (first drop) of a mob that's displayed if you click the cards for example

[zealous niche]

Only the mob mat displayed in the map is samplable

[foggy apex]

whats this one?

[pure ember]

Other than logs on logs what was the biggest push for 1B logs?

[dapper prism]

Meaning you can sample Frisbee's btw

[zealous helm]

Yea, that's what i was getting at

[raven vale]

stand behind the shopkeeper

[zealous helm]

Damn, alright thanks

[zealous niche]

Alchemy

[foggy apex]

how?

[pure ember]

Other than mage is best

[dapper prism]

I wouldn't know, i'm too much of a nub, im not even at 1b 😦
https://i.imgur.com/1gsIIa8.png

[zealous niche]

Walk there

[raven vale]

push left?

[foggy apex]

i only walk in front of him

[pure ember]

How much afk gains does doot provide?

[zealous niche]

Then order your char to walk behind

[foggy apex]

oh you mean behind his sprite

lol ok

[dapper prism]

Good chips, cards, Multitool stamp, and then these alch bubbles that say skill. Plus mainstat:
https://i.imgur.com/7GkGG2n.png

[foggy apex]

was this one

[pure ember]

Only chip i don't have is lower key chain

[dapper prism]

My alch is still meh tbh
https://i.imgur.com/Ov770zi.png

[raven vale]

you need to unlick poing in gaming from imports tab

[wind umbra]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Achievements#Smoulderin'_Plateau-0

[dapper prism]

Use <> before/after a link to prevent the pic stuff showing up

[wind umbra]

mb lol

[foggy apex]

whats a pong score?

[frigid acorn]

I just gonna uninstall the game by watching w/wo doot different

[raven vale]

you need to unlock poing in gaming from imports tab

[foggy apex]

ah

[pure ember]

Looks like bubble 7, 17 and 18 make the huge difference

[dapper prism]

Also 18, afk wood

23? think you miscounted somewhere

[pure ember]

That's what I meant

[dapper prism]

Also, i didnt follow the spreadsheet, so some stuff may be uselessly overeleveled btw

Should definetely set the sheet to stuff like 90%, 95% etc.

[pure ember]

Idc about optimizing

[dapper prism]

But dont neglect 17 on anything.. 17 is important, for all colors tbh

[pure ember]

Just barely got to the point where I can atom it bi-daily.....ish

I am getting around....3.2B oak/hr if I am remembering it right

(With multipliers)

[dapper prism]

What's your actual sample though?

Like, 300m?

[pure ember]

2 250M x6 + 2 100m x3

Could probably up it some more tbh

[dapper prism]

More stuff than just the x6 that adds up

[pure ember]

But....lazy

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/h4Lx9Wx.png

That's with a low 3 day (9%) Gold relic atm 🤷

[pure ember]

..... just realized what my gold relic is at

Guess I am doing sampling tmr

[dapper prism]

lol

[dapper prism]

This may help:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[pure ember]

It will.....

[agile pagoda]

Ancient let's goooo! Now just gotta get Eldritch

[dapper prism]

Very nice 🥳

[pure ember]

I have noticed that the purple depth ring gives more fishing efficiency than silver Rex ring

[dapper prism]

Some things depend on your effy, location.

Like once you hit around 40m (i think) Cooking effy, cooking rings become worse thane effy rings.

[pure ember]

Fair enough

[dapper prism]

Also, you mean the new ring from island expedition?

[pure ember]

Yea the one from the lvl 90 quest,

[dapper prism]

Yeh, as the other link says, dont forget new content stuff.

[pure ember]

It helped me reach 30M eff,

[dapper prism]

omg i just realized, i can unlock seasalt today!

[pure ember]

Like divine scarf?

Just unlocked the recipe for it yesterday and I am really excited to get it

[dapper prism]

Yes, divine scarf obv better than dg shop scarf. 25% vs 15%. or 50% vs 30%

[pure ember]

......I need to lvl up my chopper to equip it.....

What's best xp for es again?

[dapper prism]

Highest zone, as usual

Max crystal rate, active xp, potions, etc

https://i.imgur.com/BATsuW2.png

[pure ember]

Going to set that up then going to sleep..... should only take a nights rest

[dapper prism]

Be sure to filter drops

[pure ember]

105M space not enough for 6 hrs?

[dapper prism]

Idk what your MK is

Just do it active for a few mins and see how much stuff u get.

[median horizon]

What does the number in divinity HUD stand for?

Are we supposed to use it in the offerings tab?

[untold saffron]

You use it to roll for gods

[untold saffron]

Use the lowest option until a 100% appears then save for that is what most people do

[median horizon]

Ah. Alright. Thanks

[fast grail]

One last day of atoms, what do we think would give biggest gain for catching samples with 50 atom clicks

I dont think it would be the w5 bubbles, maybe the w4 multiplier bubble, or bubble 2 is what i was thinking, but not sure

Havent done proper catching in a while so no idea

[untold saffron]

I'd go with 17

[north juniper]

Is there an atom priority list somewhere?

I'm assuming it's unlock all of them first -> Upgrade specific ones?

[fast grail]

People skip the pen one, upgrade stamp one and atom click ones as prio

That should last you a while

eventually void chef and snail are needed

[zealous niche]

A level or two of helium is nice

A level of NBLB is also good

[north juniper]

Alright sounds good, thanks

[fast verge]

ight is there a bubble that im horribly negliting

[versed cypress]

starting wiht the ones you havent unlocked, also do you have a decent bubo??

[untold saffron]

At this stage you can just be levelling everything, but hammer hammer jumps out

[fast verge]

👍

[fast grail]

big catching and big fishing bubble

[fast verge]

i did just got it a few hours ago

[fast verge]

👍

[versed cypress]

once you start to use bubo actively and learn how to properly do craniums constantly you will slowly produce enough cauldron points to max all the bonuses and unlock all th ebubbles

[fast verge]

is there a guide for that

i have around 10% cranium uptime

atm

[versed cypress]

ithink there used to be one but not sure if its still there or where

[foggy briar]

Worth farming 8 days of Gmush on BB to get one super chow ?

[versed cypress]

if your bb has nothing else to do then go for it

[foggy briar]

Better question, does it ever get faster than that?

[versed cypress]

dmg and multikill bonuses makes all of those kind of things faster

[zealous niche]

So, my TD froze on wave 120, do I just call it dead and restart steam or let it contemplate life for a little?

Nutto TD if that's relevant

[crisp silo]

cry

unfortunate

[zealous niche]

I got the max prayer at wave 111, so should be fine, just was hoping to push my max wave simultaneously

[red elk]

yeah

[gritty sierra]

ugh so annoyed... one bubs does 48k afk kills at citrine... but the other does 14k... similar stats and similar talents

[agile pagoda]

what about afk gain rate?

what about multikill?

[gritty sierra]

108 for the 48k 113 for the 14k

must be the multikill

hmmm let me figure that out

[left harness]

No nugging way

[gritty sierra]

niceeeee

one had 400% multikill while the other one has 100% accuracy... i cant see his multikill

bah

i dont get it.. how can one have a ton of multikill but the other doesnt... both have similar damage

https://dasvidanya.idleonefficiency.com/ if anyone wants to take a look... haha

[floral jackal]

Your account is pretty good ngl

But I wish someone could help me see if there's any issue with mine https://ultraman12345.idleonefficiency.com

[gritty sierra]

i found it... he was missing damage to hit multikill

[manic rivet]

i just hit w5 what to do

[gritty sierra]

throw your boys onto the altar

[manic rivet]

should i push my wiz to es first

or after

[zealous niche]

Everybody on altar until you have bear, second divinity

[floral jackal]

Yes

[rapid shale]

Two wiz to ES :p

[manic rivet]

i have 9 chars

not 10

[rapid shale]

push

[manic rivet]

does maestro also go on alta

[floral jackal]

Yes

[dapper prism]

Read Pin

[manic rivet]

ok so after i get arctis do i push everyone to eliteus

[dapper prism]

Wait, how many arnt elite yet?

[rapid shale]

use time candies from event to push alts

[dapper prism]

Just need a DK, SB, ES while waiting out div, so that your gaming, sailing and div all get benefits along the way, then you can backtrack for other elites when you have bear + insect, and stuff like that

[manic rivet]

i think i only have 4 elites, BM, BB, Bubo, DK

i kinda left everyone in lab through w4

[zealous niche]

But it’s just there??

Can you candy it?

[manic rivet]

i used my last candy to push to troll

[rapid shale]

i basically have been doing one alt a day with the event candies, they are very plentiful

[manic rivet]

should i push my bowman and wizard right now

[rapid shale]

both are very nice

[fast grail]

Did you just come back from a break? You are progressed way to far into sigils, but no w5 bubbles unlocked, either way, immedietely stop sigils and unlock w5 bubbles. Work on stamps, you have tons that are super easy to level, push divinity for multitool stamp. Dont rely on nblb too much, you have tons of bubbles that are low that can be easily power leveled since they use skilling mats, such as cooking roadkill. Work on 100m w1 deathnote. Level Boron atom please, atom clicks every day are immesely important. Use your worship charge. Level your prayers, so many are super low leveled like skilled dimwit.

[willow sorrel]

https://stigg1.idleonefficiency.com/ could someone look at my idleon as well, ive just been grinding for the materials for magma armour so far

[fast grail]

Many bubbles that are way to low that use skilling mats such as big skilling bubbles. Lots of other small bubbles that use it as well, try not to rely on nblb except for things that are very difficult to level, such as things that use critters/souls/salts. Work on shrine levels in contructions, all very very low. Tons of stamps that you are able to level. Work on 100m dn in w1 and up your gmush kills to 1b minimum. Do your anvil points.

[floral jackal]

Ok thanks

[dapper prism]

Yay Seasalt unlocked 🥳
Was worried because yesterday i only got 6 bottles, today i was 7 away and the bottles gained is ~7. Could have been a bust
https://i.imgur.com/f8c6J1k.png

[willow sorrel]

did u spend gems on any bottles or did u get that just from daily claims cos im still a fair amount away

and ive claimed every day

i see

cheers

[fast grail]

Lots of stamps you could level, particularly multitool, you have both the mats and the money to get quite a few levels. You are at the start of atom clicking, focus pushing orange and purple bubbles number 2 and 3. Finish off 100m and then 1b dn for w1. If no one is doing divinty, you dont really need purrmap, switch it to omni. Try to make sure that bubbles that use easy to get skilling mats are not leveled by nblb. Get genie card up. Decent start overall.

Man i really gotta make something so that i dont have to re-type out similar parts for these

Read talent, based upon last digit of talent is what god it is linked to

[dapper prism]

Check pins

Damnnn New fishing map made me go from 10.1m XP to ||657|| mil 😄

[dreamy spruce]

damn

[untold saffron]

It was great for grinding the fun flags slab slot

[dapper prism]

fun flags?

[untold saffron]

The Level up gift exclusive fishing line

[dapper prism]

Oh yeh, already got like 1.5k gems from it in the bast 2 days

[thin kernel]

what is the max lvl of meal? is it not 50?

[dreamy spruce]

up to 60 with eldritch artifact

[thin kernel]

thx 🙂

time to farm some ladles then XD

[dapper prism]

All my alts had skills around lvl 50-65/70ish. I got it all to this in the last 2 days 😄
https://i.imgur.com/neAwIDo.png

Now that Seasalt is unlocked, time to move my alts over here

[dreamy spruce]

damn thats a lot of gmush farming

[untold saffron]

See I should do that, but I really can't be bothered

[dapper prism]

I just move them to Gmush for organization / easy overview

[dreamy spruce]

ah

[dapper prism]

Main goal was just to get all dreadlo, but xp was easy especially for wood xD

https://i.imgur.com/Dqj8ImP.png

[untold saffron]

I'm currently farming the last 300 hamsters I need for bags finally, been putting that off for ages

[dapper prism]

Rough grind, i need to go back for an extra 500 for vman weapon some day

Just did all the third age CD's earlier, now working active on batteries for the extra stats.

[untold saffron]

I might fo splicers next too yeah

[dapper prism]

Side note, just saw how strong some of these new fish cards are.

This xp will be even better soon 🙂

https://i.imgur.com/8KTlpZl.png

[untold saffron]

Now that breeding & sailing artifacts are done it feels like much less effort to keep on top of everything

[thin kernel]

that sad monent when you have use like 30 runs of nm kettle.. and no neck or wings.. but two oble

[dapper prism]

Oh 100%. Also once you realize how damn terrible the gold bar to dmg statue is, it really lets you not worry or touch it at all anymore xD

[barren otter]

i will be clicking big P from sailing

if i ever finish eldritch...

[dapper prism]

Obol are also like 5x more common though, so thats kinda normal?

The fish killed me.. i forgot this was a thing in active fishing 👀
https://i.imgur.com/1PsG0Wk.png

[thin kernel]

is more like 3.5x XD

[dapper prism]

4.66x there 😉

3330 / 714 (cloak vs obol)

[thin kernel]

for me is 1-2500 for neck you was thinking of wings 😄

im farming neck.. wings is just a good bonus atm

[dapper prism]

I mean, u did say wings too. and the focus should be wings for all quests, since you "should" be getting enough necks while getting the capes anyways.

Although yeh, having necks early on is nice too.

[thin kernel]

but hey i get some cards at the same time XD and yes the neck is to op

[junior arrow]

how much damage was each fish doing?

[dapper prism]

No clue, low hp due to dungeon resetting effy/xp talent

[fast verge]

guyz when do bits turn greed

[junior arrow]

ah ok i was going to say, those fish must be tough to take out all your health

[junior arrow]

after Q

[fast verge]

so 1000Q？

Ohboy

gaming is slower then i expected

[junior arrow]

it takes time but there are a lot of great bonuses unlocked from it

[dreamy spruce]

Is it worht pushing past moles when I get ~80k kph? (active)

at level 422 so wont increase by that much anymore either with only 1k gt

[dreamy spruce]

I got 3m fire spirit kills after doing a speedrun, kinda weird

only just finished speedrun

also do I use void radius when active farming on vman? feels like the kills it gets cant spawn crystals

[fast grail]

Seems like low FMJ

[untold leaf]

It does spawn crystals, you're just unlucky I guess 🥲

[worldly bane]

does auto arm where it auto deposits full stacks of anvil production items work while offline?

or will it just produce a single max tier and then halt at full and only deposit once swapped to the character?

[dreamy spruce]

makes sense, thanks

[umbral tapir]

Speaking of anvil, is there a "best piece for leveling" when it comes to production?

[dreamy spruce]

I think it only deposits on active char on daily reset

[dreamy spruce]

w5 bullets give insane exp

[umbral tapir]

Oh, I meant the auto production

[worldly bane]

on daily reset ._. jeez fffff i need more carry capacity then

[dreamy spruce]

then threads

[umbral tapir]

Thought so

[fast verge]

more

progression speed go crazy

4days from 8m -> 300m

[stuck pasture]

Oh you’ve only just begun 😂 and whatever you do don’t let your snail fail back to zero… when mine was level 13 I was pulling in red bits on evergreens, now I’m slumming it on greens again

[fast verge]

💀

this is so sad

i cant speed it up either

that i dont have 5th evo yet

ig my evo luck is also really bad

should i wait for bigger number on evo

or just spam it asap

[pulsar cliff]

Spaaaaammmmmm

[fast verge]

ok

[stuck pasture]

Yeah spam is the way unfortunately

[calm yew]

I'm seeing a lot of new fish here. What level do I need to be to catch those?

[median horizon]

Does divinity take precedence over the event?

Considering i jus got to w5

[calm yew]

Everyday I stop my character from what it's doing and take whatever time it takes to collect the coolers. But that's just me 🙂

[pulsar cliff]

Event - Only here until the 28th.
Divinity - Forever

[glad crow]

where would be best too position my sb on oj map, for plunder farming?

right in the middle?

[viral snow]

Probably so your bombs dont fly out of map

[fallow grotto]

Is there a breakdown at what points the shimmer trial shimmer amount increases?

For example total stats

I thought it would change from 9k to 10k, but it still is 5 shimmers

[prisma drift]

Total stats is horrible

There were photos posted breaking it down day one

I didn’t save any though

[still apex]

Total stat isn't multiplied by anything

[plush spear]

Theres some fixed amount i read at the wiki

[fallow grotto]

Thanks ill check there

[bright current]

[vagrant mountain]

lets go

[bright current]

[vagrant mountain]

enjoyer of artifacts

[still apex]

I know this is a good thing but the gamble is so alluring

[bright current]

do it

[granite grove]

a good non-zero chance to get 95% discount

[viral snow]

Gotta change your name now

[vagrant mountain]

but then how wil you know its me

[viral snow]

The occasional doot flex will be sufficient for sure

[tawdry grail]

Need mage for summoning doot. Pizza 20

[viral snow]

just gotta craft item an I can help you

[viral snow]

ready when you are

[tawdry grail]

oh

i got other ppl sorry for lack of warning

and time waste

[viral snow]

No worries

[solid epoch]

idk if ur still interested but theres a calculator that someone posted about the shimmer trials
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1140979123330748426

though it doesnt seem to auto calculate the amount of shimmers you'd get if you input a value

for that u would prob need to run the code thats on the wiki at the bottom

[gentle anchor]

can someone help me i have a weird glitch

does something happend to your deathnote when u get a vman

[solid epoch]

yes that happens to everyone

[gentle anchor]

bc i got everywhere double my kills

[solid epoch]

you get 2 million kills on all the mobs, however Vman cannot contribute to deathnote because everytime you do a speedrun his kills get reset

so lava made him always have 2 mill kills

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

some deathnote kills did got reset

[solid epoch]

so basically make sure to never farm deathnote skulls on him, because if you do and then do a speedrun it will lower the kills back down to 2m

i had that happen a few days ago and lost 7 eclipse skulls temporarily lol

[gentle anchor]

thats not cool

[solid epoch]

yeah kinda annoying but i guess it was easier for him to code it like that than to fix it

[shy girder]

i heard there is sheet that helps with sailing 777 achievement can some1 share the link?

[solid epoch]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O3vQffoPm92My0SWGlstiZ9Mv3v05xgtEQTivzs60Tw/edit#gid=0

think this might be what you are looking for

IE can work too to try and figure out if u will hit 777 but u have to check it a lot i think

[shy girder]

thx

[bold quiver]

gzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[lyric sequoia]

OMFG It finally happened, it does exist

Now the grind for that mfing steak...

[vivid plume]

bruv i just unlocked gold nuggets in gaming and goddamn they give a huge boost

[solid epoch]

yeah gnugget is like the best bit boost u can get, snail at super high lvl might be better but its super good

[gentle anchor]

why does this not work?

i dont get cooking spd now matter how much i upgrade it

or 1% but that was the first upgrade

[vivid plume]

u need high meal lvl

[solid epoch]

its lvl 4 tho?

[vivid plume]

like super high

[gentle anchor]

ye i did lvl it too 1OO but it still only said 1%

[vivid plume]

if i remember correctly someone said u need like 1.6k meal lvl

[solid epoch]

ur total meal levels are really low

it goes crazy when u have high total meal levels and high talent level

[gentle anchor]

do i need to upgrade meals for it to go up?

[solid epoch]

yes

[vivid plume]

yes

[gentle anchor]

but cooking is so slow

[solid epoch]

do you have diamond chef?

[vagrant mountain]

upgrade your cooking tables lol

[gentle anchor]

whats that

[vivid plume]

bubble in alchemy

[solid epoch]

diamond chef will speed it up quite a bit, its a yellow bubble

[gentle anchor]

i dont have that

[gentle anchor]

i am

[vivid plume]

increases ur cooking speed with every meal with diamond plate

[vivid plume]

damn

[gentle anchor]

i got cc and bubonic conjoror lvl 136 but idk how to get a lot of cc

[floral jackal]

The spice though it's too expensive

[junior arrow]

thats cause i been using atoms to increase it

[solid epoch]

heres how much diamond chef helps, doesnt calculate in game had to use IE

[junior arrow]

around 84 you can use atoms to increase it

[gentle anchor]

on what map should i farm CC?

[junior arrow]

but yea until then its really shit to level up, and you just wait for NBLB to level it

[lyric sequoia]

last map in w5

[wary girder]

is there like a general prio of what talents to max in libary first? ive done my bubo tenteye to max

[vivid plume]

my bubo really neglected

[gentle anchor]

no w5

[lyric sequoia]

floms then

[solid epoch]

the talent gets really good once you get ur meals going

[gentle anchor]

ow wow

[vivid plume]

[lyric sequoia]

Knowing what map to farm bubo on requires knowing your sheet damage

[gentle anchor]

do i need to say my max dmg?

[vivid plume]

math

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/087428fe9f6f5ad07d662acc3a87d350.png

[vivid plume]

i pray for your insanity

[glad crow]

whats the best card/chip layout for worship?

just eff and wisdom?

[solid epoch]

just for collecting souls? or TD

if souls id do that yeah eff and allstat%/wis

TD can use the dune soul and rooted soul cards for more starting points

https://i.imgur.com/maqTSvi.png

^these ones if u want charge rate and max charge

[vivid plume]

damn w5 chat so quite

it dosent even have slow mode

[solid epoch]

it is pretty early in the AM lol, 6:41am here

[vivid plume]

oh wow

its 3:11 pm here

[solid epoch]

most people prob asleep in america rn

ive been going to bed at like 7-8am... really need to fix my sleep schedule lol

[lyric sequoia]

Skiling card setup is the same for all skills once you unlock skill mastery and turn all the cards passive

[solid epoch]

oh true i forgot about that

tho afk gains rate wont matter in worship

[lyric sequoia]

Nothing else to really put in there

Flat wis I guess, but even then it's very minor and flat stats is really just there for some skills because "no other good cards"

[solid epoch]

yeah id just prob double the boost food effect instead of amarok for more souls with the soulble gum

for most skills thats perfect

[lyric sequoia]

This was my bubo for chopping, so yeah you could move things around for worship but the cards don't really change

[junior arrow]

i even swapped out the stilted seeker card for the double afk claim chance card, seems to work out alright

stilted seeker didnt really do much either, it was just a filler card cause nothing better as well

[lyric sequoia]

Double afk gains doesn't mean much because that's not what you do with skilling outside of vman

Skilling is for sampling, or in the case of trapping and worship you're collecting actively

[solid epoch]

remember the days when you would actually put characters on skilling

[junior arrow]

yea but i can just swap it out quickly when doing samples

[solid epoch]

those were the times

[junior arrow]

still gotta level up those skills at some point

[lyric sequoia]

4 minutes to get the last coolers before reset, cmon RNG don't fuck me now

[viral snow]

They really seemed slow yesterday for me aswell

[lyric sequoia]

Really don't have to level them if you're on dreadlo tools. I'd rather keep a healthy distance between my skillers and vman

[prisma drift]

Mining is the only one that gets good eff from leveling I think

[junior arrow]

what about rift bonuses for skill mastery?

[solid epoch]

yeah my skill mastery could use some work, tho thats too much effort for me rn. id rather just wait for him to release some more skilling stuff to make all the skills easy lvl to 100

[junior arrow]

thats fair, skilling does feel like an effort some days

[solid epoch]

fishing is there now but catching too slow

[lyric sequoia]

I don't care all that much about skill mastery until I've got shimmer so I can boost my vman to like 150 fishing

[solid epoch]

cooking too sheesh

[junior arrow]

shimmer? do you mean sea salt

sea salt is the fishing island

[solid epoch]

just got that today, boosted my vman from like lvl 85 fishing to 105 with some 4 hr candies

now worship is my lowest skill on vman because i kept forgetting to use charge

[junior arrow]

yea screw cooking, i got 500 in it thanks to div pearls

[solid epoch]

same, still got 900 div pearls left for w6 skills

[junior arrow]

im sitting around 1200 for now, but i got nothing under 50 anymore for all characters. i just went crazy with it 1 day and leveled everything

[lyric sequoia]

salt yeah, close enough

Just get doot any you'll never run out of red pearls

Just waiting for that rainbow pearl that will give 50% exp up to lvl 100, then skill mastery becomes ezpz

[tacit sentinel]

Perfect trade deal also works for 767?

[lyric sequoia]

No

776, 777, 778

[tacit tulip]

the buff itself gives only 1% the buff it's supposed to give - but also it only gets good once your numbers are big (high talent level and plate level)

30 is max cap, you're using the SB skill that reduces cap by 1

So getting Eldritch does nothing

I actually don't know if the cap is truly 30 or if eldritch just doesn't work

You'd need someone who hasn't bought the gem upgrades to test

And most people get them

[glad crow]

:C

[zinc torrent]

Does es wormhole kills work towards portals?

[glad crow]

i just redid traps, and i dont really think there was that bigt of an increase

[zinc torrent]

Aight so I ahould not use es to push world 5 or what who should I use? I don't know cause while dk gets a lot of kills he has rather low damage at my point in the game and while bubo has high damage the 10% canisters basically makes it very low damage and he doesn't have enough to make it worth it

So who should I use?

[glad crow]

do you have fury relic?

[signal osprey]

ES is still fine because killing a wormhole mob causes normal mobs to respawn too its just the wormhole mobs themselves dont count for portal/death note

[tacit tulip]

ES isn't terrible still. Killing portal mobs forces normal mobs to respawn (and your aoe skills will kill those)

Bubo or DK tend to be the best pushers still

[humble valve]

hey guys what upgrade stones have a chance to increase the misc property of a item?

[glad crow]

random stones

[humble valve]

the random stat ones?

[zinc torrent]

Alright I think I will choose dk but how do I get more damage ? For him

[humble valve]

or mystery stat?

[humble valve]

ok tyvm 🙂

[glad crow]

when do we think the next best upgrade stones will come out?

do we thibk w6 shop stones would be better than kattle stone

[pulsar condor]

How do I get my talents above 245? I have the atom level to +4 but it wont keep giving me the +10?

[zinc torrent]

Prob world 6

[tacit tulip]

245 is with the +10

[glad crow]

245 is max book level

[pulsar condor]

Well piss.

[frigid acorn]

book level 245 + artis god + sob talent + es family talent

[glad crow]

but iirc the max level (for the none base stats ones) is 310

[glad crow]

sugma pet

[frigid acorn]

dont mention thos f2p pets please

[pulsar condor]

I wanted the vman talent that adds lucky charm at 250

[glad crow]

slugma was the first pet i got

[signal osprey]

New CC just dropped

[glad crow]

wait what how in the world????????????

tell me your secret?

what level is your bubble

[signal osprey]

My secret is that its a visual bug lol

[glad crow]

oh

dangit

[signal osprey]

If you use CC and then swap characters you keep the buff

[glad crow]

hoped i could improve my cc with 300k somehow

[frigid acorn]

maybe collect about 10k of the box mobs

easypz

[signal osprey]

If you wait until it comes off CD you can use it again

And have 2 CC's going

[glad crow]

lul

[signal osprey]

Then it just adds the time together

[glad crow]

tripple stack it?

spend a week stacking cc, then just dropping the 1b sec cc screenshot in gen chat and watch them explode

[dreamy spruce]

currently pushing w5 on DK (at moles) but only getting ~80k kph active, is it better for me to finish farming dice obols and start farming w1 statues or something instead of pushing? not getting a lot of exp anymore either

[tacit tulip]

If you're multikilling it's more or less fine, the last maps just kinda suck until you get big numbers

[dreamy spruce]

I am not multikilling :{

need to almost double my dmg for it

[tacit tulip]

ah missed the "active" yah there's really no need to push the last two maps if you're not mking

[glad crow]

but yes.... you should def get them dices

[signal osprey]

I've thought about it but the problem is that you cant use your bubo while doing it so you kinda need 2 bubos

[boreal cosmos]

I have a ton of div pearls and trying decide where I should use them. Getting my maestro skills to 50 and then off skills for other characters to 50?

[glad crow]

i used mine to get cooking too 50 on other characters

used the other orb to get them too 30, and then div orb to 50

[boreal cosmos]

Do you remember how many that took? I haven't started actually putting people in cooking yet. Just passively getting diamond plates

[thorn marsh]

Kralan my long lost friend

[opaque comet]

anyone can help me with king doot for the first time?

[thorn marsh]

yes. spam credit card until success

[viral snow]

I can join with a mage if you need one

[glad crow]

?

[thorn marsh]

nothing, just wanted to point out you're only lvl 550

[glad crow]

you got the 551?

[thorn marsh]

omg we literally talked about this like 2 days ago

[glad crow]

but idnt we find out that you was only like family level 550 or something

[thorn marsh]

shhhh

[glad crow]

or was that someone else?

[thorn marsh]

that's why I added "almost" (:

[glad crow]

oh okay

[gritty sierra]

Thank you, I get too carried away

[manic gyro]

I just did it without kraken towers and didn't get the achievement, what am I doing wrong?

[frigid acorn]

tried reload when doing this ?

[manic gyro]

Yup

Goddamn what a scam

[rustic garnet]

woot!

[rustic garnet]

Did you 'juget' get to wave 50?

[manic gyro]

I got to 60

[rustic garnet]

and never put a kraken down?

like no deletes?

[chrome lantern]

I clearly don’t have an understanding of what’s affecting my damage since my BBs damaged dropped from 600m to 560 going from w1 town to gmush

[rustic garnet]

did yous wap any chars?

cards?

which town?

are you projecting your shrines to all maps?

[swift pecan]

Man nothing wakes you up in the morning like using 400 silver pens.

[rustic garnet]

can you replicate this?

Can you explain how your shrines are replicating to all maps, just to be sure they are

[chrome lantern]

Not with the same stats but it’s been doing it with different numbers for awhile now

[worn sonnet]

-health + damage skill run out?

[rustic garnet]

it's a bit complicated

replicate it with 2 screen shots

[chrome lantern]

I’ll see if I can get one

[rustic garnet]

and link your IE

[viral snow]

Are you using no pain no gain ?
Maybe that ran out ?

[fierce yarrow]

What is TOT guys?

[solid epoch]

total

across all buildings

[fierce yarrow]

ah thanks

[plain nimbus]

Anyone else 3+ starred nightmare kattlecruk and still gotten no capes?

[sacred monolith]

Not yet

No cape mind you, just not that many kills yet

Working on damage now

[plain nimbus]

8 obols, 2 necks, 0 capes
16+ drop rate

[chrome lantern]

Sorry, I had to go do something.

It seems I can’t actually replicate this, but I know it’s happened multiple times this week. So, I was afking at moons and collected all of my characters. When I got to collect my BB, 20 seconds later I saw his damage jump up 20m or some amount. From there, I went to the W1 Town, put on my fighting card preset and turned on the two skills that affect his damage and it got to 600m. And then I went into gmush and 5 seconds later it went down to 560. My max damage before this was 540m

https://badfake.idleonefficiency.com/

[chrome lantern]

I have both the artifact and the lab bonus

[fierce yarrow]

Da hell? I just got mine by the tenth kill.....
Meanwhile the gloves recipe for voidwalker if being farmed on nights for a week and still not dropped

[sacred monolith]

10 obols, 1 necklace, and 0 capes for me too

[rustic garnet]

So, you actually made a ton of changes to damage... And then swapped maps

See, that's a completely different situation, there are some snapshotting mechanics around health, for example

if you were in a %stat and health boost set, with say a food bonus card set, and moved to a 24% afk/damage/drop set with other similar cards, certainly could do it

[chrome lantern]

My BB has never hit 600m so I was just surprised

[rustic garnet]

Sure, but your first suggestion was: You did nothing, moved maps, and damage changed

which is bizarre for GMUSH, specifically

[chrome lantern]

I had drop rate cards on and the drop rate card set and I changed to the fighting afk rate and my %damage cards

I didn’t change armor or other equipment

[rustic garnet]

sure, but the important part here is you were changing cards, card set

which if you did again, surely you could replicate?

[chrome lantern]

Ok I’ll check

[rustic garnet]

Do you have doot?

[chrome lantern]

I have found the problem…

[rustic garnet]

cool, what was it?

[chrome lantern]

The drop rate card set also gives %damage and it simply took a second to update

Im a little slow

[rustic garnet]

grand 🙂

[chrome lantern]

sorry 😅

[rustic garnet]

removing variables, the way for 95% of problem solving to succeed

Is anyone further than this on trash?

[solid epoch]

im same upgrade but at 15 trash instead of 17

[rustic garnet]

sure, that's within the variances

[swift pecan]

Anyone want to help me with the snakejar quest real quick?

[rustic garnet]

nice

day reset would be the difference, I suspect

[sacred monolith]

yeah I just collected again

[solid epoch]

yeah, my day resets in 50 mins

[sacred monolith]

my daily reset is ~3.5 hours ago

[rugged thistle]

why is day reset so diffrent mine is in 3hrs and 30 mins

[sacred monolith]

Very early local time

[rustic garnet]

ES play

will cause you to desync

[sacred monolith]

Plenty of desync from filling screen with pickups while active

[rustic garnet]

If you are a super active ES player, you will lose hours some days of desync time

it's more pronounced on ES though

[rustic garnet]

do you have doot btw?

doesn't appear so, you are very lacking in your jewels

I'd focus on getting your lab lit up

and getting all of your lab people to 75 so they can hold all their chips

[paper sail]

Youe original day reset is based on the time of day when you made your account. Not everyone starts off the same to begin with.

[solid epoch]

itll keep changing tho due to lag

[paper sail]

Sure, but that wasn't their question

[spare cipher]

dumb question about rift slug pet (just got it), does it just give a flat +25 invisible levels to all skills you have? or max level that you can upgrade to?

[sacred monolith]

Max potential levels in library isn't it

[chrome lantern]

Nah. I’d like to get more jewels but the high spice counts especially for like nebulon mantle don’t seem worth it to grind for. I also am lacking in chips, so when I don’t have enough to fill all the slots there isn’t too much of a point right now, no?

[paper sail]

Behaves like Symbols of Beyond, Bear link, and Es family bonus. lets you go above book level

Ie investing 1 point into the talent will instantly give you 26 thanks to Rift Slug

[sacred monolith]

Ah, I didn't know that. Don't have that one. I just assumed

[spare cipher]

so its +25 shown levels to anything that has atleast +1, tyvm

[rustic garnet]

100% worth the grind...

[mint remnant]

at what dmg on vman is nightmare kattle somewhat doable in less than half an hour?

[rustic garnet]

50 bill damage I think

20 bill is 2 hours

50 bill is going to be less than 30 minutes

[chrome lantern]

Ok but like, I don’t have enough to grind those out before they come in rotation and then leave. Or at least that’s how I see it

[gray thicket]

Who's Bill

[rustic garnet]

Work on your pets then

and cooking

they are huge boosts

you're talking GMUSH here

and I'm like, these boosts are what make gmush good

[sacred monolith]

If you've neglected pets for a while, its probably worth checking the guide and working on the spice loadouts

[mint remnant]

hypothetically speaking... how would one reach that number if lets say theyre, hypothetically once again at 3bil

[rustic garnet]

This jewel basically over doubles gmush

[paper sail]

My very first attempt at 40b took 20 minutes. Could have gone faster with better book levels and knowing the strategy before I started

[rustic garnet]

The answer is very, very, very long. TLDR: Play the game

[mint remnant]

kinda tried doing that for the past 2 years but this mf just aint stacking dmg

[rustic garnet]

not trying to be snarky, but saying 'how do I get more damage' is the vaguest request

[chrome lantern]

My cooking isn’t gonna get that much better for awhile. With marrow and pushing levels for like twenty minutes I can maybe push it to 4000Q cooking speed for my first kitchen but I’m not feeling it rn

[rustic garnet]

alchemy, talent levels, cooking, etc

[chrome lantern]

I suppose i should get better pets tho yeah

Have been neglecting them since I got access to agonies

Shinies

[sacred monolith]

Do you have converters unlocked?

[paper sail]

If your Vman is about 5-10% of thr damage of others, that is on par. If they're below, you might be neglecting something LUK specific, talent books, skillage damage, etc.

[chrome lantern]

I don’t think so

Only to penguin i think

[sacred monolith]

Converters really help start stacking spices. And using the recommended team setups

[chrome lantern]

Then I guess I need dna first and foremost