lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[sacred verge]

trade me then 😄

il give you 500 gems and a few statues

[signal osprey]

Bold of you to assume we ever get a new rotation or trading

[sacred monolith]

I'm curious what would possibly be worth trading in this supposed system

[fast verge]

if you got doot part 2 for new rotation

[swift pecan]

Im set for the next rotation i think

[rustic garnet]

I think Lava isn't going to touch pets again, and would prefer to forget about the thing entirely

[sacred verge]

im hoping trade comes, i got too many of those shitty slugs i wanna giveaway

[signal osprey]

Yeah thats not quite enough. I think it was 500m-600m or so was the recommended amount

[signal osprey]

Agreed

[sacred verge]

agreed

but i do think trade would be fair to release as it was promissed

and sharing is caring

[rustic garnet]

do you have a spare doot?

[signal osprey]

Well it was promised before the community flamed him over the mechanic

He also promised it under the assumption that cheating a doot was impossible

[sacred verge]

true

[signal osprey]

But then people cheated doot

[sacred verge]

but id rather have the chance to give free of charge my spare pets rather then them sitting there with no use

[rustic garnet]

doot cheating is possible?

[signal osprey]

That was the whole reasoning for his green gem thing. Making it server side was to prevent cheating but in reality it just made it a lot harder to cheat

[rustic garnet]

ahh

[signal osprey]

Still technically possible if you're really determined

[sacred monolith]

Wasn't aware of that

[sacred verge]

there is allways a way to cheat

[sacred monolith]

Not sure I believe that was the only or even primary reason though

[sacred verge]

id rather see everyone with doot tho

[signal osprey]

That was the reason given though

[sacred verge]

compared to how its no

[rustic garnet]

I think he should just drop the pity to under 1 year

4 year pity is just incredible

[sacred verge]

i agree

[sacred monolith]

Yeah agreed

[signal osprey]

That would defeat the purpose though

The pity is currently doing exactly what it was meant to do

[green eagle]

the purpose of FAT STACKS OF CASH

[signal osprey]

Which is get iOS to accept the patch

[sacred verge]

what purpose? making dollars?

[sacred monolith]

Year is still a long time

[rustic garnet]

bypass the apple store

[signal osprey]

The pity was never designed to help us

[rustic garnet]

they wouldn't certify the infinite gambling, but can certify something costing $500

you can, loosely, claim doot costs $500

[signal osprey]

There are a few cases of people who might have been a few hundred bucks in with no doot who then got him after pity

So some players did benefit

[green eagle]

$500? that's just a weekend clash of clans for some people 🤢

[signal osprey]

But lava benefit more than anyone did by adding pity

[sacred monolith]

I think they would certify any price as along as it was defined for the user up front

[signal osprey]

Because it keeps his game open on more platforms

[sacred verge]

200 rolls is 500 bucks?

[signal osprey]

A little below 500$ I think but yeah pretty close

[sacred verge]

insane

[frail schooner]

the fomo aspect is really annoying, otherwise f2p would get it eventually

[signal osprey]

I dont think fomo is relevant though

If I'm lava I never touch companions again

Rotation 2 is a myth

[sacred monolith]

Yeah it looked like the game really took a hit on steam for it

[rustic garnet]

yep

and you can imagine the other platforms too

[signal osprey]

Its not worth the headache again

He got a fat paycheck and came out relatively unharmed all things considered

[sacred monolith]

Yeah mobile reviews are probably harsher

[signal osprey]

But if he does it again I would imagine it will be worse

[twin aurora]

i hope he add breeding pet as a companion ( with no bonus )

[signal osprey]

Just quit while hes ahead

[rustic garnet]

if he wanted a house depoist, he got it

[sacred verge]

imaa be honest if it happens again 100% im outta here

no soubt

doubt

[signal osprey]

Just do small p2w updates like the DR multi in the expeditions bundle

[rustic garnet]

but if he wants a second house deposit, he's gonna lose a lot more to get it

honestly, yes

[sacred monolith]

This was honestly my immediate assumption when I first saw the details

[rustic garnet]

Hey, I would love it if Lava said: Hey guys, I'm doing this as I need to pay for my college debt, a house, a mortgage, w/e

I'd actually be understanding and cool with it

I wouldn't like it

I think he could get the community behind 'buy me a house'

[signal osprey]

Yeah if he made a pay next months rent bundle and tossed in a pair of wings and some gems people would eat that shit up

[frail schooner]

arent there a lot of people throwing money at the game regardless of what the bundle is

[sacred monolith]

In any freemium game yes

[rustic garnet]

That set of people greatly reduced their 'auto buy the next bundle to support lava' wave

[sacred verge]

the goodwill is gone for myself atleast. before i wouldve given probably 10$ for nothing if it was honest shit

[rustic garnet]

I don't have numbers to show, but if this latest bundle didn't include a 300% DR boost, I bet it would have fizzled

[gentle anchor]

for your vman quest does the greenmushroom kills with your meastro before u start the quest count for the quest?

[sacred monolith]

But if you need a big quick shot of income for something important like that, it would be a good way to do it

[still apex]

Previous kills count

[gentle anchor]

ok

[green eagle]

ayyy one more level till i'm safe once again lmao

[rustic garnet]

What you feel my odds are for a cape?

[green eagle]

[rustic garnet]

And why is it exactly 0%?

[sacred monolith]

Cape's a myth. Not in the game yet

[green eagle]

because if your luck is anything like mine when it comes to boss drops, they don't happen

[rustic garnet]

I got 3 obols at least

[wary girder]

best places to active a DK, 5.6x drop and 31m dmg?

[restive aspen]

It enhances multiple talents across all characters

[sacred verge]

farm stuff to improove DR

[wary girder]

which would be? gigas what else

[prisma drift]

I got 5 pendants before my first cape

[dreamy spruce]

Gigas on ES or dice on DK (sand pots)

[woeful current]

I need some help with this guys dmg. I do not have enough to get his weapon atm need more dootja eyes or whever they are called. Any tips? I can respec and try for a void run to get more talent points if needed

[dreamy spruce]

pop obols first is better, unless you have choco

[wary girder]

so active my es at gigas until I have all silver pops?

[sacred verge]

yes get silver pops and fulll dice

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah if you want dr

[wary girder]

kk cheers

[dreamy spruce]

get cards first actually

liek the droprate cards (mimic, w1 crystal, doot, music box in w3)

[restive aspen]

Your gloves and armor are way too weak also work on getting your talent levels to 200+ via sailing and whatnot

[hollow wasp]

Is it rly what it's saying?

[wary girder]

thats my dk card set atm

[sacred verge]

100% get cards

[wary girder]

best active for cards? es?

[restive aspen]

Also remove the stats in the agility t1 talent. They're better used elsewhere

[clever tundra]

yeah 12 million green mushrooms. multikill counts so it doesn't take long

few days for me

[hollow wasp]

[woeful current]

Hmm, thanks i guess i need more books for him to work out even for lvling i was going to take him to 250 but i guess that can wait if he needs more investment to work

[wary girder]

cheers guys

[restive aspen]

Work on getting the opal rings too

[woeful current]

I think i got 1 on a char but its not with luck stat

He is 1 shotting the slugs in world 5 funny for some reason he got all the portals to the floating skulls and it says he got 2 mil kills on each mob before that i am confused even tho i have never had him in world 5 before

[restive aspen]

Aim for 1200m damage on your char sheet to start. Once he's at that his double through quad jab will make him kill most things one shot apart from nightmare kruk.

Opal boosts all star including luck. Once your base luck is around 4k the opal rings will boost your damage a lot lore than anything else

[green eagle]

kinda annoying that lava allows you to buy multiple of the new stamps from trash island. if you're not paying attention i'm sure someone will buy a second copy

[restive aspen]

That's due to how vman runs work. Whenever you do a speedruns to resets all your kills to 0 and opens up whatever the further area is on your other characters. Makes it easy to get him to gather xp on higher maps and be less time locked

[woeful current]

Thats like my current highest dmg on any char times 2 wtf XD i guess i need more luck from alchemy kinda neglected the luck bubbles

[woeful current]

aaaaah that is so nice so i can push on say dk and he gets the portals to tremors etc

[restive aspen]

Luck bubbles, w5 stones on chizoar gear, dreadlo stat sticks with only luck boosts etc. Will all help a lot

[restive aspen]

Correct

[woeful current]

Aight i guess ill throw him in to skilling then lul

also you guys want to butcher my account? or well make fun of or give me ideas on what to do lul

[green eagle]

[woeful current]

https://xeriall.idleonefficiency.com have fun 😛

[green eagle]

then it's back to focusing all new fish cards to ruby

[restive aspen]

Once you get the eclectic gloves or whatever they're called it'll help you a lot. I'm only on the green gloves and outputting 2500m base damage. Actual damage is pushing 200b per attack due to the nuttiness than is double through quad jab

[woeful current]

hmm aight yea i need to get those gloves sorted but i need the daily resets to come so i can buy the dam eyes to craft them lul

[restive aspen]

That too, what is your lowest w1 through w3 skills? Mines 86 with trapping. Closing on 100 for all others. Next lowest is I think catchinf at 95 because I decided to put it on pause for a bit

[woeful current]

Catching by the looks of things

[restive aspen]

The seasalt island helped get my fiahing XP from like 3 mill full kitted out to 500mill

[restive aspen]

Yep definitely work on your skilling A LOT. Don't hesitate to use candies when you need too

[woeful current]

Any tips about the cards or just general x skilling cards like eff% and xp?

[restive aspen]

I main vman because I like his character quest line and all that. He just takes a lot more work to get strong af compared to other characters

[restive aspen]

Are you at rift for skill mastery already?

If so get your skill levels on all characters to a minimum of 300

[woeful current]

nope which rift lvl is that? mby i should focus on that my rift is atm lvl 6

[dreamy spruce]

16

[restive aspen]

So that all your skill cards turn passive

[woeful current]

well i could craft helmet and chest for him

[restive aspen]

Apart from the gen ones like all skill afk gains, all skill efficiency etx

[woeful current]

is that on 1 char or everyone?

[restive aspen]

That's a good start

Those are the two more important ones of the armor set to get

[restive aspen]

All characters

[woeful current]

hmm mby i should look in to rift pushing

[restive aspen]

So minimum of level 30 for all w1 through w3 skills on all characters

[rustic garnet]

I'm going to get to diamond card before I drop a cape

[restive aspen]

You'll quite literally triple your xp gains for skills once almost all your cares go passive and you get them to plat

[woeful current]

Next kill is going to drop a cape trust

[rustic garnet]

didn't 😦

[woeful current]

I will work towards that i iddnt even know that rift was so massive lul

[rustic garnet]

I got 3 obols in 2.2k keys though

[woeful current]

next one

[woeful current]

F

[restive aspen]

Rift is super useful even at the beginning

I'm stuck after construction mastery. I don't expect to hit ruby cards for A LONG time

[woeful current]

Yea i did some rifts for rift lvl 6 but i dont know how that works, does it just do it on daily rest? or will it just do it when a trap is ready to pick up

[restive aspen]

Oh and abuse the crap out of crystal countdown and crystal farming with vman to make his skilling easier

Looks like you already are but definitely boost those skills from the talent library

[rustic garnet]

what do people link their VMAN to?

[restive aspen]

I'll send you my char sheet when I'm home. Game is running at home with active bubo ATM so I can't take pics

[restive aspen]

Nobisect

[quartz pagoda]

just get kind doot companion, I don't even know what divinity gives what effect

[woeful current]

well i got Doot so dont know if linking for me is good

[restive aspen]

Either nobisect or arctis

The 2x for portals from nobisect along with damage boost to boost multikill per tier is in my opinion essential for speedruns

[rustic garnet]

I don't really do more speed runs

[gentle furnace]

If he's skilling then bear/snek or nobi for SR

[rustic garnet]

I should try again

[sacred verge]

2.2k keys is little for cape tho

[restive aspen]

And the 2x boost from lab applies even if you aren't active in lab so the 4x per kill as a base on top of your multikill level makes the portals zip by

[rustic garnet]

I've done 15k keys now

[restive aspen]

What's your record so far?

[sacred verge]

thats a bit more lol

[fossil nova]

hi, is there a damage calculator?

[restive aspen]

I'm stuck at I think 44 or 45

[dreamy spruce]

#1084911530417606656 has something with that name I think yeha

[rustic garnet]

I think I could pass 50 easily

[woeful current]

Dose anyone have a guide or something for the rift? or is it just go there and follow what it says?

[rustic garnet]

there is a guide pinned somewhere

[fathom lagoon]

Qq for trash island, once you buy the “new stamp” for 20 trash you don’t need to buy it again right?

Feel like it should remove itself instead of staying there lol

[woeful current]

@restive aspen Thanks btw, forgot to say thank you for the tips!

[restive aspen]

Happy to help!

[fast verge]

bubo its HIM

[open lichen]

Hi, can someone explain Vmans blood marrow to me? My current talent says 0.51% per plate level and I have 229 plate levels. Yet talent says my overall boost is 3%. Not sure how thats calculated.

[gentle furnace]

0.51^plate level

[open lichen]

assuming calc is (1 + 0.51%)^229 - 1, than that calculates ti 221%

so still not getting why game says 3%

[grizzled elk]

idk lava's math behind it, but once you get more plate levels it goes crazy

[little pagoda]

It's just straight multiplicative

[gentle furnace]

below 500 plate levels the bonus is negative iirc

[little pagoda]

Like if the latent says 1% per plate it means it's 1.01^n

[grizzled elk]

I'm at 2.51k levels and my bonus is 926B% and thats probably not even close to real end gamers

[little pagoda]

It's never negative

[open lichen]

Thanks Scoli. But my interpretation was to convert the 3.2 back to a percentage which would be 320%

Unless thats the hidden Lava modifier lol

[paper sail]

I don't think Lava understands what a % is half the time 😂

[open lichen]

hahaha

[dreamy spruce]

Rounds to 3x

Does not check out

[little pagoda]

I think his wording is just confusing there

[open lichen]

Techically no (since calculation is 320%), but its the wording thing. All good

Will settle it as tool tip issue 🙂

[paper sail]

It does eventually balloon pretty hard

Mine is 15T% or something

[little pagoda]

I think all you need to do to make blood marrow signicant is to book it and max it, at 150 or so it's almost 1% per plate level

[paper sail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1141165421559558156/image.png

[glad crow]

how is this?

[paper sail]

25T% excuse me

[viral snow]

It goes fkikg nuts once you get some plate levels in
Definitely book it as high as you can

[paper sail]

Still 100x mine

[glad crow]

wait its kinda insane how big of a difference 150 meals do

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah I cant find the chart but at later level the multi just goes through the roof

[grizzled elk]

guess its time to spend my 100k or so ladles and pump those numbers up

[crimson gorge]

How does Tranqui work? Is it an actual 3 exp per hour (and I need to do it in 1 hour intervals)? or is it multiplied by your other skills?

[copper bolt]

Hey
Do y'all know how to defeat Kattlecruk with a void walker ? The char has 307m max damage

[grizzled elk]

focus on adds until your AOE attack is ready, use that time while adds are all dead to damage boss, rinse and repeat, it takes a while

[vagrant mountain]

punch it reeally hard and really fast

[copper bolt]

Is my damage even enough ?

[grizzled elk]

if you can one hit adds then yes, I forget what my dmg was when I did it

[copper bolt]

I'm talking about chaotic kattlecruk, for the achieve

[glad crow]

before and after of getting msa big bits

[dreamy spruce]

damn thats a big difference

[copper bolt]

👀

[crimson gorge]

where do you see your bit multi?

oh, skills I imagine

[vagrant mountain]

snail club soon

[copper bolt]

Okay guys I'm going to punch kattlecruk with the help your advice, thanks

[grizzled elk]

obviously make sure you're buffed with all your damage stuff, and move speed helps alot since you'll be bouncing from side to side to deal with the adds

[pearl cedar]

Is this yours?

[glad crow]

ye

[boreal cosmos]

Holy crap I've been trying to breed the next pet after mafioso for weeks and no luck

[bold quiver]

am i missing something or is this high enough?

thought it would be better than this, very small

[viral snow]

could unequip your efficency prayer for more xp i guess

[bold quiver]

but nothing close to 1B?

[pearl cedar]

Ah shit thought you were serimo with the pirate hat

Well this is mine.

[pearl cedar]

Are you using event food?

[bold quiver]

nop

normal food

[boreal cosmos]

30 eggs no breed damnittttt

[pearl cedar]

Thats why

[bold quiver]

is this with maximum atom collider?

[boreal cosmos]

i feel hard stuck on this stupid breeding

[bold quiver]

only double, nothing great

meh tought it would be better, thanks

[glad crow]

i only got level 9 fluoride

[pearl cedar]

What is your setup?

[bold quiver]

normal setup

[pearl cedar]

Afk pretty low

[bold quiver]

how much expdo u get?

[green eagle]

drop the efficiency prayer and use the skill exp prayer? you aren't close to the 2x multi and as long as you hit the 1x still you're fine

[chrome tiger]

is there a way to break down your printer sample % to see where you can get a bit more?

i really hate using royal sampler prayer

[glad crow]

just do the prayer

[glad crow]

its debuff isnt even really noticeable

[bold quiver]

yeah the exp reduction is very harsh early w4-w5

takes a while before its better

[pearl cedar]

Haven't unlocked seasalt yet, but from what other people are getting and their old exp rates I'm guessing in the 1-1.5b range

[bold quiver]

isee

[tawny jetty]

Not a bad run. Not my best. But going for that 4th red hat.

[boreal cosmos]

Do ayn tools tell you what the best islands to sail to would be?

[bold quiver]

yea nothig i can do, ill just accept that low exp later

not like we have to level fishing anyway for a while

[crimson gorge]

i wonder if im doing fishing wrong

or maybe I just need higher levels, but my exp sucks on my barb and especially on my VM

[green eagle]

i've been trying for weather book for weeks... then it's the grind for MK artifact. crazy how easy the lantern was compared to this

[bold quiver]

dude how can i carry 401M bugs? wtf

[queen fjord]

Is there any way to leave the speedrun if I entered by mistake?

[pearl cedar]

A lot of catching levels and mason jar

[bold quiver]

damn, is it possible to reach 1000M? cuz after 400M i cant efven magine

[lunar axle]

best classes to have?

[tall horizon]

All

[lunar axle]

well like i have 2 dk, 1 bb but not sure how many of rest i should have

[tall horizon]

!classes

[obtuse orbit]

One of each subclass for the six first characters, JourneyMan can be slot 7, 8 or 9. For three others characters you can do Wizard / Bowman / Barbarian / Squire.

Finals Objectives :

• 3 Warriors - 3 Archers - 3 Mages - 1 Secret Class (balanced)

⚠️⬇️Warning ⬇️⚠️

• NEVER do 3 of the same elite class, or you'll be unable to have all classes

[tall horizon]

2 dk, 2 sb, 2 es is the current standard

[green eagle]

[lunar axle]

overnight kinda farm

[final relic]

Why is poing so laggy I can’t get a good score cause it lags so hard

[unique berry]

I'm working on finishing W4 and looking ahead to W5 - most of my characters are in a mix of void/dementia, with my pushers being mostly void with a bit of chizoar. I just unlocked Anvil IV last night - is it more worthwhile to push for lustre gear or chizoar?

From a quick comparison, lustre has slightly better stats and the nice defense %, but chizoar adds mastery which means more damage?

[smoky sage]

I think Chizoar is better, w4/5 defense doesn't matter AS much since you'll never have 100% block chance anyways

[willow drum]

chiz is better but it honestly doesn't matter much just keep food on them

[smoky sage]

Altho I pushed it with lustre/void and was fine

I got the auto-collect for trapping from rifts awhile ago, and just realized I'm not actually getting any gains from it...I took a screenshot of my chest a few days back and remembered it today, but I haven't gotten any more creatures from traps

Is that a known issue?

[dreamy spruce]

Chiz also has 6 upgrade slots so just more DMG from there too

[smoky sage]

All my traps are 20h

[paper sail]

Are they Nature traps? Nature types give 0x critters in exchange for much higher EXP multi.

[smoky sage]

Oh, maybe?

I think I made a couple nature traps for higher exp gains

But I thought I'd kept a couple non-nature traps to still get creatures

Is there a way to check what traps are set outside of IE?

[green eagle]

look at the trapping skill on your skills in game

[smoky sage]

It doesn't show the trap, just the creature/remaining time

[narrow sable]

im at 100% extra garbage should i keep buying extra garbo or go for the bribes

[smoky sage]

I think it was this, all my players are level 50+ when most had been around 30, thanks!

I must've accidentally set nature traps on all of them

[dreamy spruce]

Should I be pushing moles active on DK when I only get 70k-80k kph?

or finish farming dice / start farming w1 statues

[nova frigate]

If ES is linked to arcticus and noburito? (Goat) will that proc exp for both or does he have to sit in lab?

[wind umbra]

you would only get exp for lab and div if u are sitting in lab

[nova frigate]

Even when the bear keeps you uploaded in lab?
Thanks for reply

[wind umbra]

yup

doesnt work

[lunar axle]

how to get ancient form of relics?

[nova frigate]

Such shane

Shame

[narrow sable]

Be lucky…

[prisma vigil]

Is "no more praying" from the Gaming skill worth it? Or is it better to use prayers?

[gray pagoda]

It's better to use the prayers

[keen aurora]

How can i get green and red bits on gaming

[zinc bison]

Upgrading gaming over time.
They're just different ways to represent higher powers of ten.

[proven roost]

What's the best character for Crystal farming

[proven roost]

Play is and you'll understand

[chrome tiger]

The real question is how to get purple bits

[errant beacon]

what does king doot mean by all divinities are active? Just unlocked my second god and I am not linked to both gods so was wondering what dooters actually did

[dreamy spruce]

You dont need to link with doot

you just get all the buffs from al lthe gods as long as you're div lvl 2

[proven roost]

It's the most broken thing in the game, completely unbalanced, and is lava very rudely saying give me money or get fucked

But that's my opinion, people have their own

[autumn rivet]

anyone had an issue with mobile having higher amount of infinite star signs vs pc?

lost like 8 star signs when i swapped

[chrome lantern]

Where’s the next cooking boost gonna come from? I’m sorta plateauing around 1000Q in a kitchen

[proven roost]

Probably desync issue

[paper nova]

Anyone know how to re-upload your data on IE? I know there's a button somewhere just forgot where it is.
My last update was 2 min ago but my 9th char that i got a couple days ago isn't showing any data

[chrome lantern]

Fluoride? Or do I just start pushing the levels that cost more than 1 ladle

[amber dragon]

Unless he do something similar to all shrine apply to all map in lab when w4 came out. Otherwise it is super unbalanced

[barren otter]

anyone know what the avg plunderous kills per day is?

[knotty coral]

Ayo my time daily reset was changed from 01:35 and now to 02:07 bruh

[amber dragon]

Mine from 11:35 to 3:25

[vagrant jetty]

can larry +3 if you get the % over 101?

[fervent brook]

I hope lava add an atom upgrade that makes nugget far less stupid to deal with. we might just get a companion that does that though.

[knotty coral]

damn i feel your pain inside :3

[amber dragon]

Like I cannot wait anymore

[edgy mulch]

is there any tricks to the log game ?

[barren otter]

yes

[amber dragon]

practice makes prefect xD

[knotty coral]

its magik

[vagrant jetty]

🙏

[scenic locust]

Does doot provide minor link bonus from gods I haven't unlocked yet?

[dreamy spruce]

IU think so yeah

[zinc torrent]

What should I prioritize in the world 5 merit shop

?

[dreamy spruce]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[zinc torrent]

Qhat does the star mean?

[dreamy spruce]

its the IMPORTANT in text

[chrome lantern]

Do you guys think I can push my waves any higher with a level 15 poison elder, 21 kraken, 28 party started, 30 lightning, 29 ice, and 33 boulder

[pure ember]

Vman and lots of ladles

[dreamy spruce]

and higher diamond chef

[pure ember]

Void chef

[chrome lantern]

I want fluoride but I don’t got the atoms

a ways off that for now unless I want to wait a 100 days

with my production currently

[pure ember]

Is printer go brr maxed?

[paper nova]

All the items from the coolers drop on the ground - so those automatically count for slab right? No need to re-drop them?

[chrome lantern]

Oh it’s only at 133

ig I should use a book on that

[pure ember]

And what's your mage bubble #2 at?

[chrome lantern]

126

Wait no

[pure ember]

Because it is one of the huge atom maker

The characters of this class get X times more out of small bubbles

[chrome lantern]

120

For some reason I looked at the second big bubble

but it didn’t change much I suppose

[dreamy spruce]

is that one bigger boost than 3rd bubble?

[pure ember]

Yes

I get 118% efficiency per pow of 10 mana..... compared to 42%

[pure ember]

Same with logs on logs what is your book lvl?

[chrome lantern]

My ES has 227

the bubos are a bit lower

[dreamy spruce]

is that with or without buffs?

like slug and ES family bonus

[chrome lantern]

I have to assume with

I have slug at the very least

[dreamy spruce]

if you click on it whats the number on the right?

227/x whats x

[chrome lantern]

175

[opaque quest]

Is the golden grilled cheese nomwich any good? My gaming instincts tells me it is but I've been wrong before in this game

[dreamy spruce]

ah thats great if you dont have ancient fury

[pure ember]

Not really

[chrome lantern]

Just the normal version for now unfortunately

so I guess that’s good to hear

[opaque quest]

All right good to know. Do we have like a tier list for the best and the worst gold foods? Because I have gone to potions and whatnot now but I'm actually curious what some of the best stuff is when it comes to Golden food

[pure ember]

Kebabs, golden cheesesandwhichs, golden hampters

Those are the top, but peanuts, whatever the fishing one is, are also good

[eager sedge]

def one if not the best

[thorn marsh]

best map for quick orb kills for the achievement?

[pure ember]

OJ bay

[eager sedge]

Oranges

[dreamy spruce]

wurms better

[opaque quest]

To the golden cheese sandwich is really good for a gold food but it's not good comparing to all food

[pure ember]

Or snelbie if you don't have the dmg

[thorn marsh]

at oranges, but I feel like it's kinda slow

[pure ember]

And it would be good for farming obols

[dreamy spruce]

Wurms has higher score if you have high enough talent levels and vman statue enhancement

[thorn marsh]

true true, cheers all

[opaque quest]

Okay so I'm guessing golden food is kind of like obles. They're good for the niche thing that they need to be used in

[pure ember]

I gain 30 billion dmg on my bubonic for having it on

[dreamy spruce]

the golden grilled cheese is just great, good for sampling and fighting

[opaque quest]

Wait but didn't you tell me it was a bad food

[dreamy spruce]

the w5 one is good

[restive aspen]

If it helps clear things up that doesn't include fish multi. My "per hour" in afk gains was like 1/3 of my actual 1 hour XP gains with vman. It said like 160moll but in actuality it was 500mill

[opaque quest]

Yeah that's what I was asking about the golden grilled cheese nomwich

[dreamy spruce]

the %all stat is good

[pure ember]

Was thinking of the w1 nomwich

[restive aspen]

Yup active farm all you can on world 5 to stack up them golden cheese sandwiches and hampters

[pure ember]

My b

[opaque quest]

Okay I was wondering why a percentage boost to all stats was seen as not good but I figured it was just something I didn't know. Then I'll leave one character on the grilled cheese map to farm them out

[restive aspen]

Golden ribs are the fish ones. And yeah those are the big ones and in the early game the meat pies are decent for defense boosts but in w5 they're unnecessary

[paper nova]

Do I just use the highest upgrade tokens (w4) that I can get on this? Just pulled it from a cooler 🤷‍♂️

[grizzled elk]

they drop everywhere in w5, don't need to stick one on grilled cheese mobs

[dreamy spruce]

only premium stones you can use

[restive aspen]

No it needs premium stones

[paper nova]

ooh.. so it is what it is until i feel like going that route?

[restive aspen]

Which come from arcade or gem shop

Correct

[paper nova]

Are there better premium hats to splurge on?

[opaque quest]

Ah. Well then what would be the best area to farm? I know people say the oranges is really good for the Divine night because it's all flat

[opaque quest]

Do you mean stat wise or look wise

[paper nova]

stat wise

[pure ember]

Either way the answer is yes

[opaque quest]

I don't know about stats then

[paper nova]

the hot dog aesthetic is for sure 10/10 😮‍💨

[grizzled elk]

wurms will be best, or OJ if you can't do that

[dreamy spruce]

Theres premium hats from bundles/rotating shop that also give stats like drop rate and other misc stats like that

[opaque quest]

Not necessarily look wise it's entirely based on the opinion of the person using it. For instance with me I like the simplicity of that Frozen helmet you get from the knight boss. It's not premium but I've been thinking of making it premium

[opaque quest]

Okay I'll try to remember that

[restive aspen]

Sorcerer hat and pirate hat are both pretty good. The snoozy hats are good too

[north juniper]

Fiiiinalllly!

[eager sedge]

Eyy congrats

[north juniper]

Ty ty, took a bit but I can finally stop slaughtering the suggmas

[thorn marsh]

I got it on almost 10mil :p

[eager sedge]

Did u atleast do them on zerker?

[thorn marsh]

ES 😢

[dreamy spruce]

active ES way better to farm it on

[eager sedge]

[eager sedge]

I know i asked bcs chow

[queen lava]

How many kills and drop rate boost? I wanna know how much suffering i have to further undergo

[dreamy spruce]

average is about ~1k royal urns

[queen lava]

Omggggggggg

[green eagle]

ayyy got one

[tacit sentinel]

Uhm has there been an update with kills? I have allot more 1bil kil and now some have dropped below the 1 bil

[solid scaffold]

Hey how exactly does the frost relic work is it just efficiency to all the skills only in world 1, 2, and 3 or is it efficiency for the overall skills of those worlds in general like catching mining etc?

[knotty coral]

ummm

yeah

except world 4,5 doesn't work

[solid scaffold]

Hmmmm so it's just a boost to 1 to 3?

[knotty coral]

yeah

[solid scaffold]

Not like a overall boost to every skill made before 4 and 5 that's sad

Cause then my efficiency isn't added to catching/chopping in world 4 and 5 then that explains the drop a bit ty

[knotty coral]

huh it more efficiency but not for world 4 and 5 skill

catching and chopping still work

[solid scaffold]

Oh so it's the second thing I said?

[knotty coral]

i mean its not increase like meal,breeding,lab and all world 5 skill

[solid scaffold]

Ok that's what I was wondering overall cause the wording was confusing

[knotty coral]

:3

[boreal cosmos]

Family guy only increases the bonus for myself right

[woeful current]

How do i get more of these? I know one source is from shiny pets but i got no clue other then that

[knotty coral]

yeah it told only this player

[boreal cosmos]

but like the normal ES family bonus does increase skills for everyone right

[knotty coral]

if i guess it mean like all bonus character class gives to this player have more bonus

[thorn marsh]

lvl up the shinies

[woeful current]

Is that the only source? F me then here i was thinking i would get more then just those

[proven roost]

whose the best to farm obols on for frags

[boreal cosmos]

DK i believe

[knotty coral]

from the rift bonus

[rotund smelt]

Post-chemical, is it ever worth to use kitsune? Cause just seems kinda wasteful if you got a Chem while it's effect was active

[boreal cosmos]

im not sure but that is a question i have... worth using kitsune while im active until I actually GET chem plant?

[knotty coral]

if i get 1000M i will go grind the rift again to rift 26

[boreal cosmos]

i tried it but it felt like i was getting such little bits so i wasnt sure

[proven roost]

on BB as well i assume

[boreal cosmos]

no farming obols afk is BAD

you can only get one per afk seesion

[proven roost]

blood bones, not beserker

[boreal cosmos]

oh haha

Probably. I did the BB deathnote for vman earlier today on my ES and got quite a few

[knotty coral]

get obols from mining really good

[boreal cosmos]

the spawn just sucks

but really nice straight line for dk

[proven roost]

i wish ES portal kills spawned crystals

[boreal cosmos]

Oh i didnt know it didnt

i stil get a ton

[proven roost]

yeh thats just from normal kills

[knotty coral]

oh wow i just got 24 h 1 candy from kill giant in Crystal Island really good luck

[proven roost]

it still respawns mobs but overall DK i think is better for the straight line, though depending on the map DK is better i guess

[knotty coral]

so 3 giants spawn per day in Crystal island

[proven roost]

love how lava made it so the summer mob kills dont give candies right after he releases something that could really benefit from it

[boreal cosmos]

My ES felt better at least for deathnote kills but i didnt actually timei t

[proven roost]

deathnote yeh, obols no

[opaque quest]

Okay I just unlocked the task board and have already completed enough tasks to get a points. What are the best things to spend points on?

[boreal cosmos]

and im a pretty early/mid player still

[knotty coral]

its really good for F2P

[proven roost]

im f2p

well, except for autoloot bundle

ive never bought candy, not from shop or anything

[tacit sentinel]

Uhm has there been an update with kills? I have allot more 1bil kil and now some have dropped below the 1 bil

[proven roost]

giant mobs and w3 w4 mini bosses are the best source for candy

[proven roost]

portal kills also dont count for giant mob spawns, in an hour my giant mobs started taking about 80k kills to spawn, ES im like 6 hours into active and only at 6k

6.64k

i really need better gear for my DK though

[pearl cedar]

You do your first vman speedrun

[proven roost]

current gear for DK, im just limited by nullo salts tbh

[tacit sentinel]

Why?

[proven roost]

shits expensive

my nullo is only rank 4

[pearl cedar]

Cause their max kc goes to 2mil after speedrun

[tacit sentinel]

Ohw wauw did not know that thanks

[glad crow]

guys.... my mouse died..... you are all formally invited to the funeral

rip deathadder elite, you was the greatest mouse i ever had

:C

[proven roost]

is there a kattlecruk weaponstone?

oh

the nightmare needs to drop it

yeh no, that takes liek 30 minutes for me to kill

[proven roost]

fuck

[glad crow]

its only one more stat than shop stones

dont wry too much about it

[proven roost]

oh

[delicate depot]

Which is right for Vial bonuses? The description says it is 1.02x multiplier per vial but the display tip adds .02 per vial insted of multiplying exponentially?

[proven roost]

thought it was going to have some random similar bonus like armour

[delicate depot]

The display tip indicates vial bonuses are an additive .02 onto a top level multiplier instead of an exponential 1.02 per vial

[vale wadi]

Wich mobs in w5 drop a chest. Need chest space!!

[gentle anchor]

do u need to take samples while ur doing vman speedrun?

[tacit sentinel]

Iff you want massif 3d prints

[gentle anchor]

bc im gonne do my first speedrun i just unlocked vman

should i focus on samples?

[tacit sentinel]

I would try the first time on getting as far as possible

Next time samples maybe

[grizzled elk]

When you do your sample run, make sure you take your samples while your multikill buff is active

[viral snow]

No
You need a speedrun once to even get enough talent points

[gentle anchor]

ok on what should i focus on my first speedrun

[tacit sentinel]

Getting as far as possible

[gentle anchor]

should i do bosses?

bc there is a talent in the vman for bosses but i wont have talent points

[tacit sentinel]

World 1 yes is fast and easy

[gentle anchor]

which diffuculty?

[tacit sentinel]

Do nightmare

[pulsar vortex]

Nightmare

Counts as 3 kills

[tacit sentinel]

Yep what he said

[pulsar vortex]

Or 3 portals rather

[gentle anchor]

i dont got enough keys for nighmare ill do chaotic

[dreamy spruce]

highest you can instakill

[pulsar vortex]

That's betger than normal at least

[gentle anchor]

ye chaotic i can isnta kill

[tacit sentinel]

Don't forget checkmate skill

[fathom lagoon]

Damn just got the ancient version of the gaming artifact and now I’m getting crazy amounts of bits

[gentle anchor]

ok

i acctually havent unlocked vman yet im gonne unlock it in 5 min

[tacit sentinel]

Haha nice

[dreamy spruce]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1109526896640807002
guide for speedrun

[gentle anchor]

thank you

[dreamy spruce]

though I wouldnt use ability in sticks with low dmg / multikill

route is for when you have higher multikill

[gentle anchor]

yes im not going to do portal by beans and sticks and wood guys bc my multikill isnt too high i think it would be faster if i just after boss tp to w2

is 2O4% speed good enough?

[solid scaffold]

So quick question about doot pet

[tacit sentinel]

It is great

[solid scaffold]

When it says all divinity does it mean like all bonuses from 2nd link or like all gods active?

[gentle anchor]

the good thing about doot pet is that u get all the divinities as active

[tacit sentinel]

All active

[solid scaffold]

Oh dear God I want it now

[tacit sentinel]

Trust me it is sweet

[solid scaffold]

Already up to half way trough the ice cream sandwich how long till pity?

[dreamy spruce]

there should be a counter somewhere

probably pretty low tho, pity is at 200

[solid scaffold]

Pain

So after ice cream sandwich it's 200 more till pity doot?

Cause I'm at 6/15 for it

[dreamy spruce]

no from 0 its 200 pity

idk how far ice cream sandwich is

[haughty cove]

yo

sup

[tacit sentinel]

Do you get a second doot from pity?

[dreamy spruce]

but if you're f2p you're prob at ~190 weeks left until pity

[dreamy spruce]

hey

[graceful bramble]

Is DK better for colloseum due to his increased drop rate? Does it affect the chests?

[dreamy spruce]

it affects chest yeah

[graceful bramble]

Ohboii, lets go, thanks

[gusty solstice]

noice

[proven roost]

wait you can sample during vman

[dreamy spruce]

yeah

thats why hes so insane at mob prints

you kill as many bosses as you can for respawn, use multikill talent to get insane multikill and then you press sample

[wanton obsidian]

How does skill work? It didn't increase my HP on my other chars

[dreamy spruce]

only works on active char

and only buffs the family bonuses from that char

[proven roost]

i cant make it to effaunt on my vman

[little pagoda]

This is so annoying

[proven roost]

i get to the sands and cant go past

[wanton obsidian]

I logged in on that char and it didn't change hp

[dreamy spruce]

then you sample after amarok

[wanton obsidian]

Lol rip bro

[dreamy spruce]

you mean putting points in didnt increase his hp?

[wanton obsidian]

Yes

[little pagoda]

I saw someone use a ES family bonus calculator, anyone knows where that is?

[dreamy spruce]

reload map

[dreamy spruce]

wiki has it

[wanton obsidian]

I even relogged

[dreamy spruce]

I just added 20 points and went from 472 to 478k

maybe its not your highest dk?

[wanton obsidian]

It is tho

I'll try again hold on

[little pagoda]

I saw someone saying that family guy talent is bugged or something like that but idk, I'm trying to find that out myself for ES talent levels

[dreamy spruce]

open gemshop and close it

[dreamy spruce]

wont help your bubo

[little pagoda]

Why not?

[dreamy spruce]

it only buffs for active char

[little pagoda]

How does that make sense

It's a family bonus... so

[dreamy spruce]

as in if you put points into it as dk you only boost his own things on only himself

and if you put points into it on es you get a buff while you are on that ES

[little pagoda]

I see.. that is weird and unintuitive but ok

[dreamy spruce]

yep

[slim rose]

I finally broke 1b damage

[little pagoda]

So maybe I just need to get his level really high

[dreamy spruce]

whats his buff rn?

[little pagoda]

Is there a family bonus formula or calculator? I can't seem to find it

[dreamy spruce]

wiki has it

[hoary oracle]

my best char does like 290k

[dreamy spruce]

in w5?

[hoary oracle]

no w4

[dreamy spruce]

ah makes more sense

[hoary oracle]

imagine i was in w5 with 290k

[dreamy spruce]

yeah would be very low

[hoary oracle]

ive been told i should have around 1 mil when i get there is that good enough?

[dreamy spruce]

I had something similar iirc

[hoary oracle]

idk how much damage i should have to start pushing w4

[little pagoda]

According to wiki I should only need 7 levels on ES

[dreamy spruce]

just start

the sooner you get to w5 the better

[hoary oracle]

Ok

[little pagoda]

Anyone know how rounding works there?

I'm close to breaking 7, will that give +1 talent level?

[dreamy spruce]

no, but maybe you cna get to next breakpoint for symbols talent?

[dreamy spruce]

idk how rounding works

[little pagoda]

Symbols on who? I can't get 160 books so not an option, highest breakpoint I can reach is 140

[dreamy spruce]

I meant symbols on bubo

guess you'll just have to level ES or get fury

[little pagoda]

Yeah, he's already at 140 symbols and next would be 160 which I can't reach

Nah fury will take weeks or months, I will level my ES

Can probably do it in a few hours tbh

[dreamy spruce]

if you level active dont forget moonmoon card

[prisma drift]

My SB has finally mastered sailing

He has earned his pirate hat 🔥

[dreamy spruce]

Grats!

[wind umbra]

pretty sure it just rounds up as long as u have 0.01 so if u get 7.01 the it would give u 8

[little pagoda]

Why are your shrines in w5

[dreamy spruce]

doot

[prisma drift]

I know arctis rounds up

Not sure about es family bonus

[little pagoda]

Yeah I think that might be the case, so I would only need 7 levels

[prisma drift]

Because I have 10 characters active in w5

[little pagoda]

I'm 1 point away from 200 tentacles and 1 mob away from teehee 15 in idle skilling today lmao

[thorn oriole]

Tip for sailing? Trying get the book artifact hopefully soon

[little pagoda]

Ah right, you can actually level shrines without being in the same map if they're in the same world? I thought it was always same map to level

[thorn oriole]

Lab perk

[prisma drift]

Sailing artifact fixes that 🙂

[dreamy spruce]

lab does

[prisma drift]

I thought lab made them active anywhere

[little pagoda]

I have the global effect from lab + artifact but I still though you needed to be in the same map to level?

[prisma drift]

Sailing let you level them anywhere

[thorn oriole]

Hmm

[little pagoda]

Lab makes active in world only

[dreamy spruce]

lab says that if you place it in the town of a world it acts as if its in every map of that worl I think

[prisma drift]

Ohhh I mixed them up lol

[dreamy spruce]

so should be the level one, but doesnt really matter

really doesnt matter*

[little pagoda]

Ah so lab means you can level if it's in the same world, got it

[prisma drift]

Has to be in town

[little pagoda]

Yeah my shrines are in w4 town because I still have people in lab + the cook, but maybe I will eventually move it to w5 when I don't have people in lab anymore

[hollow wasp]

190h more for vman

[tacit sentinel]

Haha yes mate

[young nest]

so as for slab, am I stuck with low tier dung weapons as there is no way to get them?

[dreamy spruce]

if you get higher it counts lower ones

[young nest]

my list starts from birch bow

and wooden bow is empty

[zealous niche]

And if you go into the dungeon again and get another birch, wooden will fill

[gentle anchor]

@tacit sentinel

[zealous niche]

You just haven’t used archer in dungeon since slab was released

[tacit sentinel]

Nice have fun with it mate

[young nest]

will try it

[gentle anchor]

On what should i spend my 1 void talent point?

[dreamy spruce]

top left

also max top right skil in mman tab

book it too

[gentle anchor]

top right book?

[dreamy spruce]

top right on mman

book it

[gentle anchor]

alright

[dreamy spruce]

gives vman points

[tacit sentinel]

The checkmate skill on your meastro

En then on you vman the top left to be able to do the vman runs

[gentle anchor]

whats should i spend my 14O vman points on?

i havent started a speedrun yet this is from my checkmate

[dreamy spruce]

max left, at least one in 2nd and 3rd talent

top row

[gentle anchor]

should i book speedrun?

[dreamy spruce]

ye

make sure youre on fighting tab though

my advice would be bad if youre on skilling tab

[gentle anchor]

i am on fighting

[final relic]

Is troll armor supposed to be the most annoying thing to get in the game these salts literally take months🙃

[tacit sentinel]

It gets faster

[viral star]

any idea which one?

[final relic]

How💀 I have things that speed it up but what else can I do

[dreamy spruce]

construction mastery helps a lot I think

[green eagle]

skill eff and base stats imo

[dreamy spruce]

I heard that dmg% is a separate multi too

[final relic]

I do need that one I’m just not strong enough yet

[dreamy spruce]

I think its the biggest increase for refinery

[tacit sentinel]

Rift?

[dreamy spruce]

yeah rift 41

[final relic]

1% speed per 10 total levels is crazy💀

[tacit sentinel]

I'm so close yet so far

[final relic]

I’m not gonna get it for awhile tho😢 my max damage character only has base 22bil damage

[dreamy spruce]

I think its only per 10 levels after the threshhold, but yeah its still good

[gentle anchor]

pimere i got 19 portals not to good or is it ok

[boreal cosmos]

Who's the best boss farmer? Vman since it has a skill for card and drop rate?

[gentle anchor]

@dreamy spruce what should i do with my 565 points?

[dreamy spruce]

Max talents 1-4 I think, but I'm not sure either

[gentle anchor]

and the meal cooking speed?

[dreamy spruce]

Not on Speedrun tab

[gentle anchor]

but if i go to skill tab i dont have any vman points

[dreamy spruce]

Put one in top left

[green eagle]

put one point into speed run

[dreamy spruce]

It gets you your points

[green eagle]

it pops all the others in

[gentle anchor]

ok i have 7OO on skill what should i spend it on?

on wis, strenght luck and agi on all char bc if he afk in lab?

[green eagle]

cooking, statues, critter/souls, dmg per level talent,

[dreamy spruce]

Cooking pretty bad early

[green eagle]

and don't forget the enhancement tab

that's why you max cooking

[gentle anchor]

do i put points in it?

[green eagle]

it's a terrible talent unless you put all the points you can into it

[proven roost]

is this enough for 4 sparkles?

[green eagle]

you only get an enhanced talent ever 25 points, so go on the wiki and see how many enhancements you want

[gentle anchor]

alright

[green eagle]

should be

[proven roost]

perfect

[green eagle]

make sure you reroll for extra DR on the one on the left that you place in

then the right don't do it

[gentle anchor]

there arent really talents im looking for rn can i leave it blank too?

is still got 2OO+ points spare and i maxed all 4 first talents (speedrun tab)à

[green eagle]

you can, but you should try to get vman arm talent enhancements if you can, they are really important for skilling your vman

[gentle anchor]

i can do that on tàhe skillinàg àye

[green eagle]

as they let the arm talents affect him as well

[proven roost]

thats just so i wont have to reroll the blue then the purple right?

or would i still need to reroll the blue, or just the blue and not the sparkle

[next locust]

You only reroll once, and it keeps the bonus whem you upgrade it

As long as you put it in the left slot

[open lichen]

Hi all - is Vman's "Species Epoch" talent for all chars, or just the Vman?

[lavish cloak]

my friends, i have unlocked the seasalt island today. it is what fishing needed. 2 12 hour candies later and my level 71 fishing voidwalker became level 90, and i didn't stop there. get your card chance and your skilling exp and fishing rods ready, the promised land has come.

[proven roost]

w3 is best for pens and w2 for obols right?

[lavish cloak]

obols yes. pens are omnipresent, so blood bones are a great way to focus them, but you shouldn't need to focus them.

[proven roost]

yeh BB is what ive been doing for pens

though i tend to get at least 100 a night or so just farming DN

[lavish cloak]

you get them forever. i have 30k pens sitting just waiting for me to get the motivation to click signatures

[quasi galleon]

?warn 329343091431440388 Rule 4 #server-rules

[verbal canyon]

cero3540#0 has been warned. || Rule 4 #server-rules

[green eagle]

[frail schooner]

that was a joke, chill out

[quasi galleon]

Rules are clear

[frail schooner]

my bad

[quasi galleon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[green eagle]

i don't even know what was said lmao

[dapper meadow]

Super srs

[frail schooner]

should I say it again

[green eagle]

🔨

[open lichen]

Anyone know the answer to Species Eloch on Vman? Just wondering if that affects trapping on my BM

[green eagle]

everyone

[open lichen]

Species Epoch*

[gentle anchor]

what is a good way to spend a 72h time candy?

[lavish cloak]

candies above specific afk hour thresholds for chores or quests or achievements are worthwhile goals. typically that much at one time is a waste, so we hoard them even when we want to splurge on things like deathnote kill counts

[fading dust]

What obols do yall prioritize keeping? Starting to run out of obol space

[vale wadi]

Pop obols

[sacred cave]

whats the best star signs to double for mining

[unreal fox]

Afk gain multi mine

[solid epoch]

also if for some reason you cant cap your mining speed to 62 then food effect is a good choice to reach that

[lavish cloak]

pop obols en masse. trapping obols aren't terrible, but what i eventually did was make an entire set of obols for a single task and put them on a character regardless of what they're doing. BB has fishing, first siegebreaker has damage and multikill, bubo has all stat, dk has construction, 2nd dk has mining, ect.

[lavish cloak]

4% afk gain, 5% mining efficiency, and food buff 15% depending on how high your other buffs are, otherwise either 2% skill afk gain or similar.

[sacred cave]

thanks

[viral vigil]

Hit level 400 and dropped 2 cats

[thorn oriole]

what helps with cranium cooking? is there a best map to do it on, does multi kill affect it, idk it just seems like mine is realy slow compared to others

[opaque sun]

cooking roadkill helps, and havibg 200 tenteyeclr helps. Cc only counts base kills

[solid epoch]

tremor wurms map, the large bubble, and ur talent levels affect it

[fast grail]

PO box as well

[thorn oriole]

hmmm i think i understand more, rip me i need the sailing artifacts to get 200 tent thouh

[solid epoch]

yeah 200 tenteye is a big one

[green eagle]

getting closer and closer

[lavish cloak]

large bubble cookin roadkill. murder helps with cranium cooking. the endgame solution is to have so many maximum talent points that every kill reduces cooldowns by 3 seconds, 7 auras each cast, and poison one-shots whatever you are farming so eventually you screen clear as fast as you can autocast revive. select mob dense maps. cans or flombeiges in w4, or citringes or tremor wurms in w5. if before that, other things can influence your progress harder than alchemy

[thorn oriole]

is there a way to rush sailing then lol?

[edgy pendant]

I got it a few days ago and tent to 200+. It’s a game changer. Set as many ships as you can to that island

[edgy pendant]

Doot

[lavish cloak]

rush w5 and spend money on bottles of wind

[thorn oriole]

YESSIR 🫡

[lavish cloak]

it's called the artifact of rage for a reason

[thorn oriole]

thanks lol

[pulsar vortex]

Can I get an IE review? I know alot of things I probably need to do but I wanted to know if there are any glaring problems I'm missing

https://goofy_beater.idleonefficiency.com

[solid epoch]

stamps pretty low, ur missing some good ones too

[fast grail]

stamps are biggest glaring problem thus far

missing many very easy stamps and many stamps that can be easily levled

[pulsar vortex]

So try to complete em and level way higher?

[twin token]

Are Biggie hours and chamarok the best cards for chowing?

[solid epoch]

also u dont have all the meals even though u probably could get them all

[fast grail]

also, your bubbles, you have plenty of mats for some bubbles, like bubble 1, than you could you get +50 levels on fairly easily

[solid epoch]

ur at 55/57 discovered and 55/57 are already over lvl 11

ur missing the saucy sausage meal and ratatouey meal

[fast grail]

Based upon your alch, you have been relying too much on nblb and not actually levelingyour bubbles

like really, your w4/5 bubbles are almost at the same minimum level bubbles as w1-3

[lavish cloak]

get more characters to the key generating quests so you can farm bosses harder when you want to. collect your books. you have 2 characters not contributing to 3d prints. correct this asap. in the lab you are not connected to the sapphire pyrite, which is the equivalent of no bubble left behind for kitchen upgrades. this is a time-assured method to progress and you can sacrifice other things like damage or all stat or cooking speed to do this (you can switch to cooking speed whenever you spend ladles right before and switch out to maintain 90% of the benefit). your breeding shiny list doesn't have level 1 of a lot of pets, which you could spend 2 eggs per shiny and obtain a permanent bonus immediately to your account (tiny, but there). your god alignment is set up for freedom and flexibility rather than concentrating on anything, so make the most of your flexibility now and progress through all the maps and obtain all the constellations you can then switch to focusing sample buffs and 3d print output when you're ready to snapshot sampling. all your characters are missing tools in certain slots, which are base stats that could contribute to allstat multiples that push you in every area. your statues could use a lot of love. your talents are missing updated rerolls, i recommend rolling all talents to some threshold (pick 140 to start and build up from there) to get quick potential in all areas of respeccing so you can flex into any power you need. you should grind post office so that you have at least 6 boxes maxxed out so you can get base bonuses like 20% skill cooldown and drop chance and afk exp, but ultimately aim for 10k so you can max every box but myriad.

Hope this helps.

[lavish cloak]

do everything that's cheap and instant and affordable trivially, then build up things specifically like multitool and storage and efficiency.

[gentle anchor]

from my vman my dmg went from 17m to 24m

[winged bane]

Oh wow did the molten pants use to cost 10m cheesy crumbs?

Or am I blind lol

Just got to 10 mil and then had 9 mill left when I made them

Guess I’ve done my farming lol

[fast grail]

wait, that was really fixed?

I'll be damned

it was

he didnt fix that for a full like 6 months, would figure he would had fixed it by then if it was an error

[lavish cloak]

afking my entire account at cheesy crumbs for a week felt in line with all the other things w5 released >D

[zealous niche]

I thought that was intentional..

[lavish cloak]

if anyone would care to point out a specific area that i should focus on, feel free. i'm ready to be knocked down a peg in my confidence in my well rounded account https://sadeth.idleonefficiency.com

[zealous niche]

Like, 10M mats to go along with 10M kill quest

[gentle anchor]

anyone know how rare a rift tear is?

[lavish cloak]

expect 20 minutes to an hour.

[gentle anchor]

for all 3?

[lavish cloak]

yes

faster is possible

[gentle anchor]

i do got multikill on my rift mobs

[zealous niche]

It also depends on how mean you are

[fast grail]

Stop using atoms quick slap/meaty claws, need to be getting bubble 2s up to around 500 at minimum

You are at the point where you need to be pushing sampling bubbles to 90%/95%

[lavish cloak]

thank you. i got caught up in the damage game.

[solid epoch]

also if u are going to atom quick slap or meaty claws you need to pick one. leveling both equally is troll

quick slap is better so I do that

[lavish cloak]

i heard this, but didn't look into it further so i figured i'd cover my bases

[fast grail]

yea, only do quick slap, not worth at all for meaty claws, quick slap scales much better

but for sure focus sampling bubbles first

[fast grail]

Immedietely get larry to 1100

[lavish cloak]

sounds right. if i'm gonna level everything to 500.

just 1100?

[lunar axle]

no candy in w5 😦

[fast grail]

yes, 1100, for anything after that only level in the future using hourly click of dementia

[lavish cloak]

ah right, need to get sampling so crazy i can print a billion dementia

[fast grail]

Start printing tundra logs so you can hourly click trapping bubble

[lavish cloak]

i heard that scales like garbage?

[fast grail]

It might, but its still one of the few linear bubble

[lavish cloak]

good enough

[solid epoch]

https://i.imgur.com/Dw1Z1Db.png

[lavish cloak]

is there a list of hourly bubbles?

[fast grail]

Looks like you are at the point where atoms are really too much of an issue

[lavish cloak]

yeah. all bubbles are basically the same aside from going for collider goals

[fast grail]

uhhh not really, one sec might have something i yoinked a while back

(not mine, yoinked)
My list of hourly clicks:
base stat bubbles, name i guess, cookin roadkill, hammer hammer, call me ash, droppin loads, hearty diggy

List of couple hours per click:
bob, penny of strength, nickel of wisdom, severapurple, fmj

[fading dust]

How do you use the bubble chart with all the goals? Is it to just try and hit those levels?

[lavish cloak]

are you looking at the excel sheet for % of max benefit or the hardcap benefit list?

[fading dust]

I saw this a while back

[fast grail]

Can add larry to this list as well

[fading dust]

Not too sure how to use it

[fast grail]

that just shows hard caps, dontn followw that

[lavish cloak]

hardcap list. don't worry about it since those are 100% effects, and you would need potentially several thousand levels of each bubble to hit those

[fading dust]

Man

[fast grail]

#1087501872002256966 message

[fading dust]

There a good bubble prio chart?👀

[lavish cloak]

what camp linked is great

[fast grail]

use spreadsheet there, input whatever % you are aiming for

[lavish cloak]

make a copy, and play with the % number at the top left

hit 75% in most areas, then increase when you're wealthy enough

[tawny jetty]

ok,....cant kill this guy

suggestions?

[fading dust]

Gotcha so goal should be to hit 75% scaling in most areas?

Thanks yall

[lavish cloak]

good luck. it's the end of the spice wars as we know it. power overwhelming and lots of attempts. the same strategy that got you here is what wins.

[vale wadi]

How do you guys get bubbles so high? My highest is 130....

[zealous niche]

Swap looter for fleeter did it for me

[zealous niche]

Synergy

[tawny jetty]

they get easier when they get more expensive imo

[fast grail]

What are you printing flies for btw? might be better to print others since right now they are legit just getting converted to atoms

[vale wadi]

Wat is that

[lavish cloak]

3d printing, atom upgrades, cranium cooking, no bubble left behind, and lots and lots of time played.

[zealous niche]

A boosts B which boosts C which boosts A

[fast grail]

bubbles help bubbles level faster

[lavish cloak]

probably. i recently aquired doot and i just randomly resampled without max specs before i decided to focus on 1000 skill masteries.

[zealous niche]

Improving one area of the game helps another which eventually circles back around to helping the initial area

[lavish cloak]

what should i make bowmen print?

[tawny jetty]

i dont get it, i cant survive the first onslaught...theres too many attacks

[twin token]

Bugs

[zealous niche]

Then your shield is in the wrong place, you should also be using auto the whole way

[vale wadi]

I struggle now already. My prints arent higer then a couple of 1000 too

[zealous niche]

Shift your shield around, third might do it

[fast grail]

Optimal is probably fruit flies for FMJ, going to eventually need the defense and even more so now with shimmer trial

[proven roost]

ngl lavas cencorship team has really upped their game as of latee

[twin token]

How do I chow the neyeptune that shows up on ie

[zealous niche]

Then that’s what you boost, first three bubbles of orange green and purple are good to improve samples

Vman is best for printing mob mats

[lunar axle]

for ES do you get wormhole kills while afk?

[twin token]

No

[fast grail]

Only other option is sentient cereal to help with pushing purple skilling tool power bubble

[wanton obsidian]

Fk damn it

[lunar axle]

seems like best char for active mob fighting then

[lavish cloak]

bowmen should print bugs for hourly clicks. got it.

[twin token]

Butterflies are good too

[golden cipher]

Hi guys, one question about the Slab.
Is it possible to receive again "old items" from quests like first bags?
I did all the first quests with all pjs before slab appeared

[twin token]

For Stamp tramp

[solid epoch]

yeah ive been printing fruitflies for FMJ, its helped a lot since my shimmer trial this week is defence

[twin token]

Gotta wait till lava adds 11th charachter

[zealous niche]

Some old quest items yes, bags no

[lavish cloak]

you'll be able to hit 1300 without them. just gotta wait.

[tawny jetty]

ok, ive made it a few rounds....do i need high pet scores or something?

[golden cipher]

Ok 😦 ty

[zealous niche]

Nope, higher pet power makes it quicker, but you just gotta let it run now

[tawny jetty]

just keep going until a run sticks?

rgr

[zealous niche]

Once you’re past the initial burst, most runs finish

The longer it takes the more likely of a bad rng roll, but rattler will build up enough stacks to win in time

[tawny jetty]

yea the previous one, only took 3-4 tries, cause he ended up just 1 hitting him at one point lol

[tawny jetty]

its going now 🙂

[lavish cloak]

DONT LOOK AWAY

https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-pizza-gif-6074641

[tawny jetty]

lol no this will take a few min of pause frame game play its just too much lol

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/rupaul-dragrace-good-luck-dont-fuck-it-up-dont-mess-up-gif-4093651

[untold saffron]

Rolled a T6, this could take awhile to get through

[lavish cloak]

mostly for rolling nuggets and acorns. your nugget is 20k higher than mine so it's mostly annoying

[paper nova]

Do you not get free Chizoar keys or do I need to finish bellow's quest line?

[tawny jetty]

i like how your sailing exp is at the bottom fo your gaming screen lol

[tawny jetty]

just came back from being afk...still going lol

[lavish cloak]

oh. right. auto. i keep forgetting that was added.

i had to manual all that shit

[tawny jetty]

lol, ive slacked on breding for awhile

[lavish cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-wallace-get-breaded-gif-20574655

[tawny jetty]

i go in phases, of focusing on 1-2 things at a time...im sure id be way deeper into end game if i was more focused on doing everything daily, but i dont even active play lol...

[uncut bear]

Same Problem but I am at pristalle lake

[zealous niche]

I do this! I’m breaking into late game/hint of end game now

You still get there

[tawny jetty]

lets define end game

i call my self entry level end game

lol

my cooking is QQ, and my damage is 4-5billion

your higher then that eh

[lament jasper]

why even bother...

[tawny jetty]

its 10000% useless lol

[lament jasper]

no shot

[junior arrow]

i mean its still a free hour, better then nothing

[uncut bear]

I dont even make damage cause the fight is that short :/

[tawny jetty]

it should be a % of scale and it would be worth it

[lament jasper]

should've went cans might've gotten 3

[tawny jetty]

gotta manually use the sheild for the first attack on the slower bosses

you can 10000% clear that boss and the next 10 with that team

[dreamy spruce]

colo is also good

[lament jasper]

i have very few colo tickets sadly

[dreamy spruce]

Ah

[lament jasper]

and can't even farm them with pens, all used too lmao

[uncut bear]

Wow haha i really just had to block the first and now its running

[lavish cloak]

that's usually how the fights go

[uncut bear]

Thank you!

[zealous niche]

I’m higher than that.
End game is when you have no more gameplay goals left and are working on self-appointed goals

[zealous niche]

Sometimes shield needs to be in a different position. I had to move my shield around from 1-3 to better suit the first attack, but yes that comp will end everything

Just need more pet damage to go faster if you want

[wanton obsidian]

I don't remember getting 2mil kills on these..??

Can someone help explain

[dreamy spruce]

Vman Speedrun gives 1m kills everywhere I think

Also resets his deathnote at the start of a speedrun

[wanton obsidian]

Oh like for free?

[dreamy spruce]

So you get the portals back yeaj

But don't do deathnote on vman since it resets it every speedrun

[wanton obsidian]

Ahh okay

[empty ridge]

Do you mean don’t open up deathnote on vman?