lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[devout warren]

Do i get more keys with better drop rate?

[gray pagoda]

Well... Looks like I've got some grinding to do.

[dreamy spruce]

yes

[prisma drift]

Holy

[heavy moth]

stuck at 19.22 and can see how to boost it

[glad crow]

our salt 16 god does

[signal osprey]

Need another 16% though

[glad crow]

can or cant?

[devout warren]

How can i get better drop rate? I have 3.3

[heavy moth]

oups cant

[signal osprey]

W1 statue breakpoints are every XX.51 DR

I'm 16% from more bean stonks

[prisma drift]

Bruh what statues have breakpoints

[signal osprey]

Every item in the game has a breakpoint

[glad crow]

plunderous, arcade shop, cards, p2w obols, luck, max boos card set

[signal osprey]

Thats why ES farms mob mats so well. His portal pushes break points on the mob mats higher than other classes

[devout warren]

Do items break after long use? Like in some games

[glad crow]

didnt know this, will now put into brain storage, thanks salt16 god man

[heavy moth]

got all of those except plunderous that i could farm a little more and arcade shop not maxed yet

[signal osprey]

The break points are just hard to keep tracj of because its different for everything depending on the base drop chance of the item

[gray pagoda]

How long have you been playing this game? And what world are you in?

[frozen prairie]

onyx statues...

auto deposit..?

[gray pagoda]

Cause asking a question like that, I don't think you're in W5, no offense

[devout warren]

Not sure for how long. I'm in w5 and never had it happen. But i've never wore same item for longer than a couple weeks.

[gray pagoda]

Unless it was a joke that went completely over my head, in which case I'm sorry

[signal osprey]

No I mean break points as in DR thresholds where you get more items. Your gear items dont break

[gray pagoda]

Oh, ok. Yeah, things don't break.

[thorn marsh]

my relationship broke... I blame idleon

[stoic tiger]

The only thing I can think of that kind of can break is lower tier obols when fusing

[gray pagoda]

All wearable items have Unbreaking VI on them

[glad crow]

my relationship also broke.... i blame not having one in the beginning as the cause

[thorn marsh]

sounds like a skill issue my man

[signal osprey]

I'm in this comment and I dont like it

[devout warren]

He never had one either. He plays idleon

[gray pagoda]

I think we're all in this comment, and aren't very fond of it

[glad crow]

damn.... im getting in idleon and in real life too

[viral snow]

Did you atleast breakup because you spent 500$ on doot ?

[thorn marsh]

I fucking aint even got doot yet

at least doot loves me unconditionally

[glad crow]

thank you contract..... i can always count on you

[viral snow]

Sounds like a bad deal to me

[thorn marsh]

are you saying I just need to spend more dolla?

[prisma drift]

Always

[glad crow]

bro girls swoon over doots....

[thorn marsh]

aight, brb getting my moms credit card

[signal osprey]

So I need doot now

[prisma drift]

I got two doots and now I have to stay in doors to avoid the unwanted attention

[gray pagoda]

Yep. Now, thanks to him, you get it in real life, IdleOn, and Discord. Thanks for keeping his failures constant Contract

[prisma drift]

It’s like those old axe body spray commercials

[signal osprey]

I can't live up to these unrealistic standards. Ladies want a doot meanwhile I'm just some guy

[glad crow]

contract is the only stable in my life, and i them for it

[gray pagoda]

We all everyone

[fathom lagoon]

@prisma drift when he walks out the crib

[dapper prism]

Doing Active BB, lots of fun xD

[glad crow]

this would imply that people that whaled on doot knows how to exit the house

[thorn marsh]

this is his house.

the people broke in

[fathom lagoon]

It’s a VR party

[thorn marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/horatio-caine-yeah-csi-miami-sunglasses-meme-gif-4566497

fuck yeah Idleon VR incoming

[glad crow]

they thought the house was empty

[fathom lagoon]

Can’t see the lights in the basement

[glad crow]

then we can see waifu doot in vr :D

[fathom lagoon]

Onyx statues?!?!?

[hexed crescent]

Does anyone have the link to that docs that calculates t6 flower times?

[signal osprey]

That a leak of the new rift mob? Onyx statues rift 51 confirmed

[thorn marsh]

this is my name now

[dapper prism]

10x T5's, 3min cycle = 150 days , 6min cycle = 300 days.
Log + Chem count to average time

[glad crow]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo u one level above me :C

[fathom lagoon]

Jesus Christ

Pain

[thorn marsh]

better get grinding

[dreamy spruce]

get the nothing island and then it becomes big stonks

[glad crow]

they unlocking bonuses on fractal island

[fathom lagoon]

They knew about fractal island before lava did

Big brain

[thorn marsh]

can you candy on fractal?

ooooooh

[signal osprey]

If that counts retroactively that would be nuts

Mans just beat fractal on accident

[fathom lagoon]

Literally

[dreamy spruce]

should count if he unlocks it on a different char

[fathom lagoon]

Over a year lol

[thorn marsh]

what does one do for a year of not playing idleon?

[fathom lagoon]

That’s what the comments on Reddit are saying but it’s prob too late

[glad crow]

touch grass or something.... not that i know what that is....

[fathom lagoon]

Touch grass and live happily

[signal osprey]

Theres grass in W1

[thorn marsh]

^

[fathom lagoon]

Damn bro just added the lvl to his name

[glad crow]

ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh thats what that green stuff is

[signal osprey]

The other green stuff is the beans

[thorn marsh]

touch beans, gotcha.

wait...

[fathom lagoon]

Glublins

[signal osprey]

Unironically some of the best advice in idleon

Touch more beans

[thorn marsh]

remember to check your beans

[fathom lagoon]

Looks like I’m highest lvl in chat

[dreamy spruce]

farm beans or push to kattle?

[thorn marsh]

nooooooooooooooo!

back to grinding

[hexed crescent]

Where does chance to evolve fit into this?

[dreamy spruce]

2nd highest*

[dapper prism]

That's just the average time it will take, that's calculated by the minute cycle. could just do the days divide by cycle time

[signal osprey]

Yall are too high level

[dreamy spruce]

Im lying but dont tell him

[signal osprey]

Beans don't give relevant exp so real gamers don't have high levels

You guys farm tremor wurms and it shows

[thorn marsh]

this some South Park WoW farming shit

[glad crow]

im back baby!!!!!!!

[dreamy spruce]

:>

[thorn marsh]

why is it only half?

[glad crow]

btw what your gt level?

[glad crow]

i dont have doot, thats why

[signal osprey]

You probably have higher GT than I do if those are your levels

[thorn marsh]

I don't even know what GT is

[signal osprey]

Thats too much bubo. I fill my cauldrons and leave

[glad crow]

gt isnt even that high

[thorn marsh]

holy fucking christ on a bike

[signal osprey]

Mines like 8k

[thorn marsh]

please touch something green

[signal osprey]

You can get like 1k a day now almost with a good bubo on a full day at wurms

[glad crow]

wait what the actual flunk

[dreamy spruce]

Lol noob

[signal osprey]

I just want to farm DK instead

[tall horizon]

touching lots of grass

[thorn marsh]

never ever actived bubo

couldn't be bothered

[glad crow]

yeah if you sit on pc all day and are not a scatter brain like me and forgor

[glad crow]

wait..... so you lied too me........

or nor?

[thorn marsh]

or did i?

[glad crow]

im confused

[thorn marsh]

combined lvl 551

\flex

[glad crow]

oh

......

[signal osprey]

Got 551 with level 100 GT

What a chad

[glad crow]

thats why i was soo confused

wait.... am i highest level

[thorn marsh]

I like to enjoy the gameplay... it's about the journey not the goal

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/PaaIjf3.png
i like mine to keep at a nice number

[dreamy spruce]

550 < 552.1

[glad crow]

:3 seconds of joy before proven false:

[signal osprey]

Higher level than me

My bubo is 537

[glad crow]

oh no

now i want too just keep buboing

after 100k plunder i will go back

[signal osprey]

Don't have to worry about me catching up anytime soon

[fiery sun]

guys for offerings should i wait for thte 25 or do the 1?

[thorn marsh]

better?

[signal osprey]

I'm actively doing everything I can to do as little bubo per day as possible

[glad crow]

well.... you are actually doing smart things instead of leveling useless number

[dreamy spruce]

why do you hate bubo so much

[signal osprey]

I don't I just like DK more

[glad crow]

100%

[fiery sun]

dont have that option

only shows 1 or 25

[thorn marsh]

do 1 until 100

[signal osprey]

Bubo is required to fill my cauldrons when my bubbles empty them though so I've worked on increasing liquid rates to shorten the time required to do that

Just trying to maximize my DK time

[paper sail]

I haven't even leveled GT in at least a month

[signal osprey]

Still higher than mine

[paper sail]

Trying to catch up to your DK gains

[thorn marsh]

I feel like I should prio some active bubo and get GT up a bit

[signal osprey]

Will be for awhile too. I don't see myself pushing GT anytime soon

[glad crow]

do you not have sheep, or you just havent touched them bubbles?

[paper sail]

I have sheep

[signal osprey]

Its never a bad thing to do

[paper sail]

IE doesn't calculate Worship Rate or Anvil time properly if you aren't "wearing" the bubbles in game 🤷

[signal osprey]

Even just 1-2k early on makes a very big difference long term

[glad crow]

i just drew art

[dapper prism]

To level BB from 425ish to 450, you active him like the others?

[paper sail]

RIP your dashboard accuracy

[viral snow]

why no big p ?

[signal osprey]

I haven't bothered pushing BB to 450 yet

[glad crow]

bruh i didnt think about that..... thats so smart

[signal osprey]

Trophy doesn't do much for him so I'm holding out hoping that the W4 trophy is better and has a lower level requirement so I don't need to level him

[glad crow]

bb only really need to be 425

for the pendant

[signal osprey]

Thats where I stopped

[paper sail]

I finished Super CHOWs before 450 so meh.

[dapper prism]

True, but i like them all at 450 just because xD

[signal osprey]

Maybe one day ill go for 450 on him when I push 5k total

But that can wait awhile

[viral snow]

go for 5000 family

[glad crow]

this is where my meows got him

[signal osprey]

Mine got him to like 410. I had to sit at wurms when kruk came out

[glad crow]

thats what im doing on bubo.... bubo level 1k and then i dont need to level others

[paper sail]

It's on the list, bb

[thorn marsh]

where is get gf?

[viral snow]

just get him to 5k

[paper sail]

Don't think my wife would appreciate

[thorn marsh]

does she have access to the list?

[viral snow]

thats w6 addition
Or new pet rotation

[signal osprey]

Not a relevant idleon goal right now. Dating is a W6 skill

[barren otter]

my 435 BB has the cape and trophy

[thorn marsh]

leisure suit larry crossover event for valentines?

[barren otter]

and it is not hitting 450 anytime soon...

[signal osprey]

I got my DK a trophy and haven't killed kruk since

[barren otter]

thats how all my chars have been

[glad crow]

i got one trophy and has just been passing it around

[barren otter]

working on my later half of my roster now

[signal osprey]

I should add that my DK was my first trophy

[paper sail]

I stopped after 4 trophies. Just been grinding normal for gems since then

[glad crow]

es was mine

[barren otter]

not surprised

[signal osprey]

I spent 27k keys to get 1 trophy and have refused to fight that boss after that

Got 6 pendants so thats good enough for now

[glad crow]

this is all i have done

only got 1 pendant

[paper sail]

Learn2RNG

[vale wadi]

wich stamps do I miss?

[thorn marsh]

the ones in the blank spots

[viral snow]

just check on IE or IT

[paper sail]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Stamps

[glad crow]

nothing i think

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure those slots are unobtainable stamps

[paper sail]

Technically there is an Island stamp in there

[signal osprey]

Well actually no theres the new sample size stamp on trash island that goes in one of those spaces but the rest are blank

[viral snow]

yep theyre not available
just checked

[paper sail]

But it is a garbage stamp so

[untold cypress]

does Dimensional Wormhole not work with auto or am I bugged?

[paper sail]

Both in terms of being purchased with garbage, and also providing a garbage bonus.

[signal osprey]

No royal sampler soon

[barren otter]

i had a 45k key gap between wing drops

[golden cipher]

Hi guys, 1question I hope you can help me
I have 2 blood berserker, one at lvl 428 and other 425. The lvl428 has chowead at 100M world 1 and 2. The 2º has only chowed 3monster.
Why I am receiving the buff from the lowest blood berserker?
*Talent Apocalypse Chow buffer by voif walker

[barren otter]

and then got 3 wings within 5k keys

felt justified i deserved that luck

[dreamy spruce]

super chows are bugged and only work on 2nd bb

[golden cipher]

lol Ok, in my mobile phone they worked fine (android) but I only use steam

[vale wadi]

how come that some stamps are unobtainable?

[viral snow]

placeholder for future worlds etc

[signal osprey]

Yeah for some reason in steam it counts the second BB whereas mobile uses the first BB

[vale wadi]

oww thanks

[paper sail]

Steam counts Last BB, not 2nd specifically

[gentle anchor]

are there other good sources of defense except armor and FMJ

[glad crow]

dk skills

[glad crow]

prayer

[dreamy spruce]

Who tried it out with 3 BBs? :O

[gentle anchor]

DK only buffs for himself right

[paper sail]

Several people, sadly

[glad crow]

actually there might not be a prayer i misremembered

[golden cipher]

mmhh could you also tell me how voidwalker works? I mean, I also have 2voidwalker 😄 so, which talents are working? The highest level? Both? I am worried about left hand and right hand talent from maestro

[signal osprey]

The hands are the same way as super chow. It looks at the last one

[paper sail]

Exact same type of bug happens with Vman/Mman skills.. Enjoy. Different behavior on different platforms

[golden cipher]

Ok, nice to know. Now I may boost the last bb or vman, ty

[paper sail]

It shouldn't be THAT hard to test though. Put them both in a preset with no hands leveled. View efficiency. Swap one to yes hands preset, view efficiency again.

and then report back with your platform + results 🙂

[glad crow]

remember to make a hypothesis first

[paper nova]

Am i supposed to hoard all my chizoar keys until I can do him on chaotic or radiant? and/or only use coll tickets on w3? I heard chiz has gear good enough for w5 but not sure what it was .

This is a w3 question but everyone in w3-w4 chat are just talking shit on each other rn

[dreamy spruce]

chiz set is great yes

you get it by just doing the tasks

[gentle anchor]

is TD meta changed in the last year?

[paper sail]

Hypothesis: Steam should only utilize BB Super CHOWs and Vman Right Hand from the last one created, based on character position.

Mobile should always utilize the first one created, based on character position.

Go go, test

[stuck pasture]

Hypothesis: In the context of the utilization of character positions, Steam platforms should exclusively implement BB Super CHOWs and Vman Right Hand, specifically those created last in sequence. Conversely, Mobile platforms should adhere to a standardized process that requires the utilization of the first created element based on character position. This hypothesis necessitates rigorous testing to validate the proposed differentiation in the utilization strategies between Steam and Mobile platforms.

[paper sail]

Shut up, nerd

[dreamy spruce]

I myself saved keys / colo tickets until I got better DR on DK

[paper sail]

Don't hoard too hard or you'll just never use them

[signal osprey]

Just candy your super chows on both BB's

[paper sail]

Show me them cauldron stats, bb

[dreamy spruce]

whats your liquid rate for you to get so much?

[proven roost]

the keys are easy to chew, i need them obol frags though

[faint yew]

Any point keeping these summer shell hats? Seem pretty bad

[proven roost]

can this go higher than 10%

[paper sail]

They're each at 150 rate in the decant menu

[paper sail]

11% drop rate is the max on Dice Hex

[dreamy spruce]

damn

[signal osprey]

10k, 12k, 11k caps

[proven roost]

do i reroll or need to add it in a certain way

[paper sail]

Reroll

[proven roost]

cool

now give me some obol frags

[dreamy spruce]

sand pots on dk

[paper nova]

I'm actualy not against running 1000 boss fights sometime 😂 I wouldn't mind having that many keys

[proven roost]

i was told the snails

[paper sail]

I run about 4 per minute.. It takes all day

[proven roost]

i feel betrayed

[paper nova]

Youtube 1 screen... bossfights 2nd screen

[dreamy spruce]

also reroll them when they are lowest tier (silver for dice) so that its cheaper, just put the rerolled one in the left slot for upgrading

[proven roost]

thats only if you do normal though

[paper sail]

Normal is the way to go 🙂

[dreamy spruce]

snails might be slightly better for obols but sand pots give glass shards

thats against ToS

[paper nova]

is normal actually better DR than chao/radiant if you aren't looking for a specific item?

[quasi galleon]

?warn 1122973238935429190 Rule 4 #server-rules

[verbal canyon]

MrWorldWide#3699 has been warned. || Rule 4 #server-rules

[proven roost]

i never said it was me 😦

i would never do such a thing

[heavy moth]

left is before doot right with with doot 3 days apart XD love those 1 hour 3d printer proc

[quasi galleon]

You also never read the rule, I bet

[proven roost]

ah discussion

[paper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/quick-draw-cowboy-gif-25170342

[signal osprey]

Who needs rules

[dreamy spruce]

normal is most efficent for everything apart from cape afaik

and cards ofc

[paper sail]

You're better off farming Normal for Gems and buying Cardifiers, unless you need the cape

[untold cypress]

Is Dimensional Wormhole supposed to work with Autofight?

[fathom lagoon]

Yea

Anyone got to room40 yet?

Room 4 these nutz

[dreamy spruce]

then why did you say room 40?

[paper sail]

You tried.

[barren otter]

https://tenor.com/view/attempt-there-was-an-attempt-rainbow-star-space-gif-15526647

[fathom lagoon]

[viral snow]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[tawny jetty]

I’m so sick of farming hampsters. Wtf does that have to be such the currency for tab 5

[near mist]

How rare is the lvl 104 tick tock book from alchemy?

[green eagle]

not rare imo

[dreamy spruce]

I got it first try

[green eagle]

and statues are getting upgrades, can't wait to endlessly farm them some more

[opaque quest]

I keep leveling up the loot skill of my boats but the amount of chests it lets me hold is still just five am I missing something?

[dreamy spruce]

loot skill increases the amount of stuff you get from chest, not slots

[opaque quest]

How do I increase the slot number then

[dreamy spruce]

You get slot from an artifact and tasks

some achievements and gemshop

I think its capped at 30 though

[green eagle]

gems, achievements, merit shop

[opaque quest]

Okay so I need to work on unlocking the task board

[dreamy spruce]

at least w5 tasks are a lot easier than w4

[green eagle]

and w4 weren't really that hard either

[opaque quest]

Seems strange but I appreciate it world 4 tasks are really difficult

[dreamy spruce]

they're very rough early w4

[fathom lagoon]

W1 longest tbh

W3 was my quickest to max the merits

[opaque quest]

I think the only world one task I have actually completed is the defeat amok one.

Which by the way not going to lie when I saw the unlock amok sold out I genuinely thought that was a new rare crafting recipe

[dark kraken]

Trying to generate enough damage for my vman to kill nightmare kattlekruk but even with the kruk weapon and armor and 245 max talent level it's still not enough. What's the best vman damage source?

[dreamy spruce]

Alchemy

I think this bubble is the biggest one but im not sure (mine is very low)

[dark kraken]

Well I'll try anything, might as well try that thanks

[tawny jacinth]

Is there a limit on blobby or is this one of those you don't really have 107 cases

[dreamy spruce]

his min value is equal to first boat loot stat

[tawny jacinth]

What I mean is I can't accept the trade despite having 107 lol

[dreamy spruce]

oh you mean that, I think thats a rounding error

[tawny jacinth]

Yea figured very weird

[fathom lagoon]

Yeah rounding from the +% loot buffs

[wispy sapphire]

there is no way to increase the vial chance right?
gotta hit that 99?

[odd stream]

yes

[clever tundra]

So I just unlocked W5, is it still true that I should have all of my characters AFK at divinity until I get the goat?

[dreamy spruce]

you can get extra rolls by throwing a lot of them on the floor at once htough

[dreamy spruce]

You can active on 1 char

[clever tundra]

oh it gains active too nice

[opaque quest]

What okay how do I keep managing to get a single void coin? All this character does is sit on divinity all day and every couple of days I look at the characters inventory and there's just one random void coin that I have somehow obtained

[fathom lagoon]

It doesn’t gain while active. He’s saying you can div 9 chars at the pedestal and keep 1 active

[clever tundra]

oh gotcha yeah

probably skilling on vman or farming on ES for now

[dapper prism]

Skilling vman isnt really something "active"

Focus on stuff that's beneficial to do active, and/or play the catch-up game, doing old stuff you've missed like quests for stamps and stuff like that

Since you won't have your lab buffs atm

[clever tundra]

makes sense

[signal osprey]

It's finally done

[versed cypress]

how long did this took you???

[signal osprey]

Like 5 or 6 days now and I've been on DK

Could be faster on ES

[versed cypress]

ok not as bad

[dapper prism]

Alternative a 4h candy without maxing out DR gave me around 17 Pearls from what i recall (just got 540 pearls for all dreadlo tools the other day)

[signal osprey]

Yeah but I also wanted statues and gold food

[dapper prism]

Yeh good 2 in 1

[signal osprey]

Got 150k golden ribs which is a nice increase to the 60k I had before lol

[barren otter]

1 step closer to hourly kraken

i like it

[signal osprey]

My goldfish print is past the minimum requirement to eventually hit single slot hourly clicks with enough gold relic stacking

DR bubble clicks soon

[barren otter]

that bubble barely moves your total DR

[signal osprey]

Yeah I think I can only get another 3% out of it total

So not a huge deal but clicks are clicks

[dry crypt]

if someone has king doot pet does it still effect all divinity gods even if they are not unlocked

[signal osprey]

Like I finished the last trapping vial yesterday yet here I am clicking the trapping big bubble

I think I have an addiction at this point

[barren otter]

same...

but i think i need to stop let printer work so i can get flouride finished

[fathom lagoon]

As long as your chars are div lvl 2 then yes

[haughty cove]

how to get the last plat?

[signal osprey]

I'll finish the last fluoride level soon too

[dry crypt]

ok thx

[haughty cove]

what recipe is the best?

[signal osprey]

Atoms have a cap but bubbles are forever. Keep clicking

[barren otter]

wait whats the cap?

oh ig you mean when you finish all the ugprades?

[signal osprey]

Yeah after you finish the collider upgrades atoms only upgrade bubbles

So I dont see a reason to give up bubble clicks in favor of faster atoms when bubbles are all you're gonna do eventually anyway

I could have maxed fluoride awhile ago but I chose bubbles

[barren otter]

tbh i just need to resample

my daily atoms cant keep up with the bubbles im atoming

[signal osprey]

Depending on where your skull is at sampling probably wont help

[barren otter]

well...

[signal osprey]

I resampled last week and my current atom gains are lower until I get some more skull going again

[barren otter]

last time i sampled was before companions came out & kattle

and since then i got doot and half divines done

and some of my bubbles have 10x'd

[signal osprey]

Yeah mine was pre companions too which is why I caved and finally did it

[barren otter]

i was hoping expeditions gave a more immediate boost to anything sample related so i held off

but now might be the time to resample

[signal osprey]

It might be less atoms in the short term but as long as you can still do daily bubbles thats fine

The skull will build up and then you'll be better off

[barren otter]

oh i ripped my skull recently on accident

so thats kind of dead already

[signal osprey]

Oh then just sample

[barren otter]

yea

[signal osprey]

Skull is the only reason not to

[haughty cove]

nvm i got it just took me some ladles

[signal osprey]

If it wasnt for skull I would have sample weeks ago lol

[barren otter]

this was when my chopping bubbles were around 200 ish

most of them are 500 ish now lmao

[signal osprey]

You can probably double that sample

[barren otter]

hopefully

trying to get larry to 2hr clicks

and a few other choppin bubbles to hourly

[signal osprey]

I was around 800m oak when I could get everything up to tundra logs hourly

Could maybe even do alien with more gold skull but I never had it fully stacked

[barren otter]

yea tundra hourly would be great

[fading cape]

That's probably a good benchmark to follow. 800M doesn't sound too hard. Just takes time to get up there. Mostly just first three bubbles in alchemy hitting them daily??

[barren otter]

i still have trapping vials to do

[signal osprey]

800m should be very achievable now

[barren otter]

oh right

i have an extra 24% afk gain from kattle obols too

[fading cape]

man I must be way behind somewhere. All my chopping bubbles are at 300 and I'm only at 233M samples on oak

[barren otter]

im almost positive that 305 is with the skull bonus i have atm

[signal osprey]

Just dont stop at 300

[fading cape]

ah. that could be it.

[barren otter]

yea pretty sure it was 200ish without skull

[signal osprey]

Skull doesnt affect the displayed sample

You sampled 305m

[fading cape]

What's your afk % do you recall? I'm working on getting mine into 200%. I'm at like 191% last time I sampled.

[barren otter]

oh god i don't even remember now it's been well over a month

[worldly bluff]

I don’t workout. Is a 255 bench press a lot?

I just say lavas name lol

*saw

[signal osprey]

Its a pretty good amount for your average person yeah. You'd need to spend some consistent time in a gym to get there

Although how impressive specifically also kinda depends on how big of a guy lava is and that I don't know lol

[zealous niche]

The taller you are, the easier it is to move more weight. Still, 255 is not something you’d walk off the street unfit and toss around

[gray thicket]

Thought I was in the wrong server

[hexed crescent]

Dunno why you're all diminishing it. It's a lot

[signal osprey]

I said its a good amount and would require consistent time at a gym lol

[gray thicket]

eniweis, should I craft anvil tab 4 first or grey Gatsby

[hexed crescent]

"good amount for your average person" is different from "good amount" lol

[gray thicket]

[hexed crescent]

I know, semantics, still though, simple answer is, it's a lot

[gray thicket]

Also, should I craft any of these?

[signal osprey]

The beginner gear is decent the rest are less good. Honestly though just aiming for chizoar is a good goal until you're able to get all the salts needed from troll gear

[gray thicket]

Then Chizoar it is

That's gonna cost a lost of salts

[signal osprey]

Just using dementia or void is fine too but chizoar would be better

Personally half my roster had dementia until I finally got them magma gear

[gray thicket]

That's a leap

a big leap

[signal osprey]

Yeah but with lab requiring all their time I decided they didn't need combat gear

One of my DK's pushed W5 with coal miner pants and rex rings lol

[sleek tree]

Whats best way to get trap exp?

[placid mural]

Ooooooo a new tier of statue?!?

[signal osprey]

Natural traps of the highest critter you have unlocked

[placid mural]

There's no frame of reference what gold to omics will do because regular to gold just made it account wide

To onyx*

[sleek tree]

thanks

[signal osprey]

Onyx for server wide. We sharing statues now

[gray thicket]

[placid mural]

Lawl

[signal osprey]

The game has mmo in the name so its finally time to add some player interaction

[vagrant mountain]

huge

[dapper prism]

Still twice mine 😦

[bright current]

Share doot when

[vale wadi]

how to get to the blobfish?

[signal osprey]

Quest is at the choccies map in W4

[tacit tulip]

MORE FISH MORE FISH

[dreamy spruce]

damn nice

[tacit tulip]

red card before green stack lmao

[signal osprey]

I'll be there soon so I can finally get my 2% afk back

[tacit tulip]

maybe I need to finish that soul card...

[signal osprey]

Yeah I had it at 4* until lava gave me 4 new empty slots

[barren otter]

possibly dumb question

but can you candy those...

[tacit tulip]

I've not tried, no real reason to suggest you can't

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure you can

[barren otter]

id imagine "oh its current world" no candy

but maybe not

[signal osprey]

Well fractal island can be candied

In fact its kinda mandatory. Its just a candy sink

[tacit tulip]

ok, down from 77. Soon.

[barren otter]

cause as soon as i hit seasalt

im blasting candies on everyone

[muted bramble]

calling me bad on so many lvl.é..

[signal osprey]

Yeah with a few more fishing levels I think I can get vmans carry cap high enough to do another level in bug sack stamp

[tacit tulip]

tbh as I have two BB's I'm just letting the first one outlevel the vman - more cards that way

[barren otter]

@signal osprey btw i realized i cant resample yet

[barren otter]

i have 109 hrs remaining on this

cant resample all my guys and just leave my BB out of it...

[tacit tulip]

that is what we call an "oof"

[pulsar heart]

what is this

[signal osprey]

Doesn't exist

[lost depot]

Maybe Onyx statues become guild-wide

[barren otter]

make it game wide so contract can farm for us

[pearl cedar]

Might need to find a new guild

[lost depot]

The benefits would be absolutely nutty

[vagrant mountain]

maybe onyx is just a 2x

[lost depot]

Yh probably

[pearl cedar]

Not sure how I would feel about guild wide though, since I can't control how they play the game and we've all seen the cheaterboards

Maybe party wide, Or something since Lava likes to incorporate parties into things

[tacit tulip]

I doubt he'll do sharing with players

[green eagle]

oh lord please no more party things

[tacit tulip]

it'd be trivial for someone to cheat in near infinite statues on /another/ account and share with others

[green eagle]

it's hard enough to get dungeon parties to work

[tacit tulip]

very hard to track who's being naughty, and who was just unlucky

will most likely be something new in that case.

[vagrant mountain]

i wonder if lava will ever go back and fix content instead of pumping out broken content

[tawdry epoch]

Hows my idleon setup haha

[tacit tulip]

Needs more screens

[vagrant mountain]

needs more diet coke

maybe some mountain dew

[pearl cedar]

Not loaded up on your smart fridge

[dapper prism]

Missing idle skilling

[zealous niche]

Is it synced with your tesla screen?

[viral star]

i have 44m in chest...

[zealous niche]

Make a second stack of 1500

[lost depot]

Guild-wide statues would involve complex implementation, for instance it would probably work how statues currently do where only the highest statue quanities would be used meaning suddenly the highest level guild member is extremely valuable, opening potential for corrupt practices

[muted bramble]

2 account ?

[zealous niche]

I recon it’s extra effects for each statue

[lost depot]

ooh that would be cool

I hope they aren't guild-wide because that could become incredibly toxic

It's not like you'd end up depositing statues in some guild "bank"

it would just take statue levels from the highest level guild member

[tawdry epoch]

I tried to sync to the smartscreen of my car for long ride

[tawdry epoch]

3

[lost depot]

why 3 accounts lol

doot rolling?

[tawdry epoch]

Nah got 3 account for 2 years now

[dapper prism]

Like in Runescape, people love to play with alts, test or do things differently, etc.

[fathom lagoon]

Are those 3 diff accounts? Lol

Jk just saw your recent messages

Why lmao

[serene forum]

Onyx statues?

[fiery plume]

Can I sub class swap token from BB to DK?
edit, no I can't. Is there a different item to do that or no?

[sick sentinel]

There was one that was in limited shop for elite class swaps

Idk why it didnt stick around but may come back again

[fiery plume]

ty. I just got my first few super chows on my first BB thinking I could use this token to swap my 2nd BB to DK lol

[sick sentinel]

I believe thats how others did it, fingers crossed it comes back

Otherwise time to start working on 2nd bb

[tawdry epoch]

Because while 1 account is active theres not much to do except watching so multiple account = more thing to do 🤣

[tawdry epoch]

That would be awesome

[fiery plume]

seeing you manage 3 accounts makes me sick

I couldn't imagine managing 30 idleoners

[gloomy bobcat]

Is meta for trash island just getting 20% garbage upgrade over and over again?

[fiery plume]

I heard the general idea is to upgrade it unless there is a cheaper option to unlock a stamp or something

[tawdry epoch]

2 years of only playing idleon 🤣 im good for asylum

[fiery plume]

but personally I think I'd want my garbage upgrade a bit more unless its a good bonus that is going to give me a good spike in gains

[pearl cedar]

The math checks out you want 6 upgrades, then bribe, then trash upgrades to 10 then everything else

[gloomy bobcat]

🫡

[fiery plume]

i used 3 cosmic candies and got 5, 5, 8 hours. Is that good? 😄

[gloomy bobcat]

Why doesn't boss set show up here?

[serene forum]

Not even clode

[fallow pawn]

what are the best classes for w2 and w3 dungeon?

[serene forum]

Trash upgrade is priority tbh. 20% boosts add up quick. Id do it up until 100

[fathom lagoon]

You’re wylin

[proud moss]

How does Goharut work? I have linked a char, put him in lab but if I look at divinity gain from another char, he is not earning points. Am I missing something?

[fathom lagoon]

Basically the char in lab also gets div xp/points. In the div ui on the pedestal it won’t show it’ll show as 0

When you’re checking on another char

[proud moss]

Okay, so it still works

Thank you

[hoary light]

does cranium cooking also speed up sigil gains??

[tawdry epoch]

Just a little haha do you know if theres a group for idleon addict ahah

[clever tundra]

New to W5, just trying out sailing. I have 700+ items in slab, why does this show +0%?

[devout warren]

Doss the boat "loot" upgrade influence artifact odds?

[signal osprey]

Refresh map

[devout warren]

You just got it. Switch map and come back.

[clever tundra]

ah ok thanks

[quiet pewter]

yw

[exotic juniper]

rush bribes

[devout warren]

@signal osprey When you have all artifacts of an island and you keep going there, do the chests show odds of getting ancient one?

For example 0.7%

You're guaranteed ancient artifact if you hit that chance

[scenic locust]

What's the right island unlock order? I've got trash and shimmer right now

[devout warren]

People say salt right after

[quiet pewter]

the fishing one next

[signal osprey]

The odds listed show the chance of getting any available artifact that you don't already have

[scenic locust]

It says the fish are for w6 recipes tho

[quiet pewter]

feel free not to get it

[devout warren]

So what if i have all of them?

Are the odds shown fake?

[signal osprey]

Then there's no odds listed

[scenic locust]

Just trying to understand why it's recommended as third. Is it just forward looking, or does it give tonnes of fishing xp or something

[devout warren]

Really?

[signal osprey]

If you see odds then you're missing one

[quiet pewter]

mstly because the other islands are bad, and yeah it does give a ton of xp

[signal osprey]

It gives significantly more exp as well as cards to improve fishing in general

[fathom lagoon]

Plus new slabs

[scenic locust]

Ah cards!

[signal osprey]

Also yeah none of the islands are super great. Expeditions as a whole is just a series of small bonuses

So seasalt isn't crazy but nothing else is either

[gloomy bobcat]

I've been told they give 100x more xp than med fish. Not sure if it's true though. Gonna unlock it next for vman lvls

[tawdry epoch]

New slab and new greenstack

[quiet pewter]

i dont think that much more like 2m -> 60 m

[gloomy bobcat]

Still not bad though. Also efficiency might play a factor but idk

[signal osprey]

Efficiency only matters for exp up to 100% chance to catch all fish

After that it doesn't do anything

[rugged thistle]

is this just random ?

[quiet pewter]

not really, he offers somethign like 1/5 of what you have or something, making a deal and reloading map shoul dgive a diff value at least

[rugged thistle]

so just keep reloading map till he has the right offer?

[quiet pewter]

maybe, i never bothered getting it tbh

i think you might need to sell/use some resource to get a diff value

[pearl cedar]

Easiest way is to have ships with the resource he wants waiting in dock, then either claim a ship or make a trade depending if you need to go up to 777 or down to 777 then gemshop and back to deal

Eventually you might get it

Pretty luck/rng based but can be brute forced with the above

[gloomy bobcat]

2x and up don't affect it at all?

[signal osprey]

Not for exp no

Thats why balance of proficiency and maestro transfusion are good for leveling. Giving up efficiency for exp is worth it as long as you stay above 100%

[gloomy bobcat]

Ah good to know

[signal osprey]

Another way to guarantee the perfect trade deal is to just spam the same island over and over until you get a few billion of the treasure. The more of it you have the slower the deals scale up until it eventually goes up one number at a time

You can also track what your trades will look like on IT to plan ahead and know when you have enough

[quiet pewter]

specfically for fishing no, i think other skills do scale

[signal osprey]

No skills gain exp past 100% efficiency

Prowess is for more drops only

After 100% you focus skill speed, afk gains, and skill exp %

[opaque sun]

fishing is like the exception of having more efficiency helps for exp due to its internal calculation of counting fishing each different fishes

[signal osprey]

Thats only up to 100% though. After you catch every fish more efficiency doesnt change the exp rates

Only way to do that is with different color depths which I'm honestly not sure if that affects exp

[opaque sun]

depth helps but afk info only shows info for the lowest fish in the pool which is kind of deceiving

[fallow pawn]

which class for w2 / w3 dungeon? vman or dk? whats the best?

[signal osprey]

I used vman in W2 because some stages require you to not kill things and you cant control basic attack shockwaves on DK. W3 is definitely DK though

[paper sail]

Take off weapon 😄 Unarmed doesn't generate Shockwaves

[signal osprey]

Shouldnt even equip one in the first place

If you enter a dungeon with a real weapon equipped you keep that weapons attack speed

Once you adds items you end up with better dps using no weapon with higher attack speed than you do with a dungeon weapon but less attack speed

You still proc shockwaves though if you do it like that

[paper sail]

Interesting

[signal osprey]

Only real exception would be if you get horn and literally 0 crit items

Then you probably get a weapon just to roll for crit enchant

[devout warren]

What are some of voidwalker benefits that makes him so good?

I've heard about it being helpful for printing but that's about it

[scarlet bay]

oh lol, they didn't just stop updating the guide sheet, they deleted everything from it

epic

[signal osprey]

He has the highest monster samples, he provides the biggest cooking speed bonus in the game, he doubles the bonuses of all your statues for all characters, and he has one of the biggest increases to critters and worship souls

Among other things. Hes a pretty nice class to have

[devout warren]

My statues are terrible sadly

I could use some souls and critters though. Materials i can actively farm

[paper sail]

Finally updated my Log samples after 3 weeks. 600m -> 750m oaks. Decent enough

[devout warren]

I never liked cooking much but now i have a recipe that increases skill efficiency and i like it.

[signal osprey]

Cooking is very important

[paper sail]

Now just to wait ~10 days for Golden Relic to get me back to the same output 🥲 Then the gains will happen.

[opaque sun]

the family wide buff talents of vman is super strong, especially the cooking one

[devout warren]

How much of a boost are we talking about?

Anything less than double and i'll be disappointed

[signal osprey]

It starts slow at first but it gets up to a few trillion % more cooking speed

[opaque sun]

Like few trillion % more cooking

Multiplier that is

[paper sail]

Is pretty good

[devout warren]

😁

[scarlet bay]

is there a saved copy of the worship tower placement setups from the guide sheet anywhere? lmao

[opaque sun]

The statue talent basically 2x the effect of all statues

Like all of them are that dtrong

[paper sail]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[scarlet bay]

oh nice, ty

[devout warren]

How can i see my current meals level to try to calculate my boost?

[opaque sun]

critter/soul talent is like a pure multiplier of 5-7x more souls/critters

[devout warren]

But that is for a level 400 char right? My maestro isn't even 150 yet.

Working on it. Very slow progress

[paper sail]

I wouldn't sweat the numbers. Just know they are good and worth getting.

[devout warren]

Maybe i should gear him up to be faster

He's naked with just a weapon

[opaque sun]

in total, everyday you sleep on vman is lot of lost opportunity

[paper sail]

I can't imagine why you have very slow progress

[bold quiver]

lets go

[devout warren]

Very good

[bold quiver]

9 days, beat my old record and this time f2p

[paper sail]

Sheesh

Sanic over here

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-speed-gif-20195114

these days of summer event helped, used all my candies

i was gonna finish farming stiltzcho quest for 9 24h candies kkkkkkkkk

[devout warren]

What was kill per hour on ES?

[bold quiver]

between 2500-3000

[devout warren]

Good enough

[signal osprey]

Oh how they neutered poor W4

[bold quiver]

i had like 500k dmg

acc is a complete weak sac kkkkkkkkkk

[signal osprey]

Even with event candy that kph would have you at choccies right now at best

Cant wait for lava to gut W5 as well

[bold quiver]

the portal requirement was insane right?

[devout warren]

Is 500k damage at Troll low? Probably not on ES

[signal osprey]

He lowered requirements and in some cases he lowered mob stats too

[bold quiver]

i killed it pretty fast and only lost 1 challenge

[devout warren]

Lightning attack carries hard

On other chars like Blood Berserker that would have been tough.

[signal osprey]

The portals were never as bad as W5 portals but the later ones were still probably like 3-4x bigger at least

[bold quiver]

hmm yeah that would be tough

[devout warren]

I just wish i could use candy on world 5.

[bold quiver]

The biggest "problem" is that the afk fighting is too busted

[paper sail]

there is no way to filter these from Colo3 chests, right?

[devout warren]

Need level 150 on maestro asap. I'm tired of it

[bold quiver]

This portal requirement wouldnt be too low if afk fighting simulated active fighting more, the way it is u can cheese it too hard

[bold quiver]

unfortunately no

What i do is i just stop collecting loot and leave it on the floor

only get keys + candy + ballon

[manic moat]

Got my first 5 star cardifier, what is the most important card to get to 5*?

[paper sail]

Chaotic Troll imo

[signal osprey]

Depends what you're doing really. CTroll is a must have for sampling but if you dont plan to sample for a bit you can delay it

[bold quiver]

then probably nightmare troll

[manic moat]

Looks like I need to spend some time fighting the C troll then xD

[devout warren]

I haven't killed troll after getting the access kill to enter w5. Is his card any good?

[manic moat]

got no stars lol

[signal osprey]

Crystal spawn/DR cards are the biggest prio imo as they have the most up front impact on your active farming

[opaque sun]

ctroll card makes a big difference in sampling

[signal osprey]

But theres a lot of good candidates

[devout warren]

What does it do?

[opaque sun]

All skill efficiency

[signal osprey]

Pretty much half of the cards in bosses set need a 5* cardifier as you cant realistically farm them anyway

And theres a few good choices in other sets too

Personally my first 5* was genie

[manic moat]

I was thinking about crystal mob cards, skill eff is nice though

[paper sail]

I farmed Genie cards with ES 🤷 Felt more doable than bosses

[signal osprey]

Yeah its a good choice. When I was getting my first cardifiers I had just recently sampled and didnt plan to do so again anytime soon

[manic moat]

I have most cards at 4*, it's the bosses I never really focused on

[signal osprey]

So efficiency could be delayed until closer to sampling time

[manic moat]

I think I'm at the very early stages of sampling

just need that push lol

[signal osprey]

Then CTroll is almost certainly the best option

[paper sail]

At the risk of getting bopped.. Don't 5* cardify Chaotic Chizoar Farm that one.

[signal osprey]

Its less keys to just run normal chiz for gems and cardify chaotic

Is that the one with the broken card amount?

[paper sail]

Not for Chaotic Chizoar specifically

[devout warren]

Is normal troll card good?

[signal osprey]

Yeah okay so that was the broken one

My bad

[signal osprey]

Its not bad early but its not as strong as most other boss cards

[manic moat]

oof, these c troll cards are hard to come by

1 out of 6

[twilit goblet]

do we get enough portals SP for vman realistically to max out most of tab 4 skills?

[paper sail]

If you don't mind reset-scumming, sure

[twilit goblet]

how does that work?

[paper sail]

Same way Star Talent / Archer Anvil Point scumming works

Level the STR, AGI, and WIS talent on Vman. Swap to all other characters, max out their appropriate stat. Go back to Vman, reset their talents, spend on other thngs.

[twilit goblet]

that's actually big brain

ah okay i see it now it boost max lvl

[paper sail]

Allows your other characters to get up above 1k of their main stat in tab1

I don't think it is quite 1.3k but close

[twilit goblet]

yea i can see this being pretty good tbh, im gonna do that after dropping some books on the 4 skills

[paper sail]

Make sure to level the stat on both presets for other characters, so you don't have to redo it as soon

[twilit goblet]

yea and i switch pc sometimes so

it's gonna be maxing out on both presets on both client and web

definitely after i book them a bit so i dont have to keep doing it

[paper sail]

Good thing resets are free 🙂

[twilit goblet]

sometimes i dont want it

[paper sail]

I meant legitimately but yeah I getcha

[twilit goblet]

yee you get so many after a while, those mandatory resets after switching stuff gets kinda annoying sometimes

[brazen cliff]

Either the reward amount is stupidly low or I'm just that bad

[terse yacht]

Isnt there a way to get to like 750% or smth?

[paper sail]

Thanks for the reminder! My week resets in 1hr and I haven't turned in lol

[tight ridge]

windows tried to update and it broke my idleon lol

[worldly hollow]

finally been giving my bubo some more love, finally got to the end of w5 with em.

[indigo vector]

Are the shimmer thingies different for each player? I have crit chance this week

[tight ridge]

yes mine is highest defence i can get

[gray pagoda]

Seems like it, I have killing giants

[barren otter]

mine was catching eff that one sucks...

[worldly hollow]

vman damage here

[gray pagoda]

Ngl, I fucking hate catching with a passion

[tight ridge]

the one i had last week was the only one thats limited i think, it was get guild gp

gave me 11 shimmers for doing all the dailies and weeklies

[manic moat]

anyone else try that google thing from future content blog and get no results?

[gray pagoda]

There's literally 0 reason for my irrational hatred of catching, it's just there (hence the reason it's irrational)

[opaque sun]

only the first shimmer task is same for everyone. From 2nd week and onwards its rng per user

[gray pagoda]

Yeah, you're not supposed to see anything

It was a joke

[tight ridge]

^^

[worldly hollow]

should have been a rick roll link

failed opportunity lmao

[gray pagoda]

Fr

[worldly hollow]

but then all the crybabies on the subreddit would literaly just implode

[hexed crescent]

I think you mean figuratively

[worldly hollow]

nah lol the amount of nonsense that gets posted its a cesspool

[fading cape]

Does nobisect bonus double multikill kills also? Or is it the same as KPH bubble in alchemy and only increases the single base kill?

[hexed crescent]

I wouldn't know, still though, I don't even know what it means if a person literally implodes

[paper sail]

Nobi is just like lab, a full 2x or 4x for both. It does multiply with multikill. The big yellow bubble gives multikill.

It is the big green KPK specifically that doesn't work with multikill. Same for KPK from the Skulld talent in tab4

[opaque sun]

nobi applies 2x on everything also including multikills. Kpk bubble sucks because it only applies to the base kill of 1

[fading cape]

Thanks both

[opaque sun]

nobi, lab and the limited time shop rings applies kpk on all kills

prayer, kpk bubble, decimator only on base kill

[prisma drift]

So really weird question

I’ve had 2 Colo tickets pop up in my inventory

One at a time just randomly

Any reason that would happen?

[hexed crescent]

I have had the same thing, no idea how though

[prisma drift]

iOS?

[plucky lintel]

Post office maybe

[prisma drift]

No 😦

It happened before I did orders and I was fighting tremor worms

I brushed it off but it happened again in front of w2 Colo

(Already claimed tickets for the day via quick ref)

[worldly hollow]

170k? lets go

[vocal ibex]

2 days away from the third island .. 13 needed

[winged lake]

ez bosses for gems and cards

[fading cape]

I've had it happen before too. Collected my dailies and then ended up with 1. Maybe colo tickets added to level up bubble prize?

[twilit goblet]

how many plunderous mob kill for 1.2x drop rate?

assuming max book talent

[opaque sun]

When you visit some of the colo zone, the quest npc sometimes just drop the daily ticket

[prisma drift]

Even after claiming?

[opaque sun]

common is when you active farm in those zones and day changes and stuff

It used to be a common way to lose daily keys/colo back when auto loot wasnt available

[winged lake]

yeah and then you get 12

[edgy mulch]

is the gaming skill still caped out at level 4 growths or do they go to 8 now ?

[opaque sun]

depends on your super bit upgrade

the current theoretical implemented cap is tier 7, but not really feasible to see one due to such low chance. So effective cap tier is like 6

[crisp silo]

New statue pog

[fallow pawn]

new breakpoint reached, 9k will be tough....

[indigo vector]

What are yall choosing for ur 11th character when it releases

[terse yacht]

Potentially for the shits and giggles?
Second Jman

Probably for actual
Either another mage or warrior

[indigo vector]

I'm gonna get another elemental sorc

[barren otter]

2nd vman so i can know what it feels like to get 2 printer casts in a single day

[fallow pawn]

another mage, although i bet one of the next archer classes will be insane, since archers are not in a good spot right now

[opaque sun]

getting doot is effectively 2nd brr already

brr and bubble, recast brr and bubble on 2 vman is bit too much of a chore. Also dont forget that mman hands has the original bug like that of super chow on 2 bb

when you make your second mman, your hand efficiency will be gimped until you skill that mman back up to highest again

[vagrant mountain]

ill make 3rd BM

like real furry

[signal osprey]

I'm not sure what part of that statement bothers me the most

[opaque sun]

why you already have 2nd BM

[signal osprey]

The fact that you have 2 BM or that fact that you would consider a 3rd

[vagrant mountain]

BM is furry class

woof

[teal swift]

Trying to establish some afk fighters to grind levels now that my lab is sustained with enough line width... I keep reading that siege breaker is BIS for afk fighting but cant find any builds or anything to get me on the right track. my main (ES) is 244 right nwo and my siege breaker is only 103 so a big gap, but it feels wayyyyyyy weaker. what should I be pumping to get him to catch up?

[wind umbra]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#
talent guide

[teal swift]

im noticing on active (easy levels right now - insanely fast) im also hella low on MP. like min almost the whole time - does this need to be improved to help afk gains too?

thanks @wind umbra will take a look

[thin adder]

Okay weird question... I just logged in on my character that is afk for splicing and noticed I found a lucky lad. Its my first one! Will I keep the lucky lad if I splice like I do with obols or will it get deleted?

[vagrant mountain]

dont splice

[wind umbra]

pretty sure mp only matters when u active, so if afk dont really have to worry unless u going for a bit of extra damage

[teal swift]

ok cool ill try to respec to match the guide.

also, is the consensus on here that SB is best for afk fighting? or is there another class. Still planning to use my ES for active farming

[vagrant mountain]

ES gets a bit more kph because of free multikill but archers get forge progress when claiming afk so it is generally better to use candies on your SB

[teal swift]

what value is forge progress though?

I didnt think you got exp from bars?

[vagrant mountain]

lots of places to use bars

[teal swift]

oh gotcha

so should i have my automation arm auto turning bars then?

because i have that part off since i assumed iw anted to stack copper ores

[vagrant mountain]

you should always have it on

[teal swift]

hm ok

[vagrant mountain]

and produce more ores when youre low

[fading dust]

Royal trap is best trap right?

[crisp silo]

Yea

But theres the one above that gives better base stat. Alothough the traps has very marginal benfit to longer trap times

[proven roost]

why does this feel low for 6 hours

got 15 1/2 gold die

[crisp silo]

Chocco chip?

[willow jewel]

Does multikill work with smelting erryday?

[opaque sun]

probably bad crystal rate

multikill works for afk of smelting

But for active killing, it only counts the base kill

Thus active farming on archers are way slow to smelt

[proven roost]

I javelin it as well

*have it

My crystal is 1/44, not bad but not good

[opaque sun]

Maybe your orb duration (talent level)

[serene forum]

Also higher speed for anvil mats

[opaque sun]

archers also still makes meaningful worship charges though not as much as ES’s, but still

[dapper prism]

4 more days for seasalt 😦

[vernal gulch]

I should get mine tomorrow or the next day

[dapper prism]

My luck for trash is that im always a little short
https://i.imgur.com/mQCY4yD.png

[heavy moth]

i dont feel like the +20% really pays off XD

[opaque sun]

But it does

[heavy moth]

yea but the rng can go so low that even with 5 lvl i still got 4 or 5 today

[dapper prism]

I'm wondering when is a good time to save for bribe set

Like.. get 1 more trash then bribe, or more a bunch more trash before bribe

Anyone already have the bribe set and know how much trash* the random events drop?
https://i.imgur.com/L08FLx4.png

[opaque sun]

roughly when garbage upgrade is around at lv5-6, you save for bribe

bribe is basically another form of garbage upgrade (with lot of useless fluff)

[dapper prism]

Yeh, thats why im just wondering how good or terrible the bribe actually is

[vagrant mountain]

i think bribe is best first buy

[opaque sun]

Kind if depends how much random event bosses you plan to kill diligently

naw its not that op

[dapper prism]

Can only kill 1 a day

so, cap it at 1 a day xD

[opaque sun]

like bribe has lot of useless upgrades, its basically just “garbages drops from random event you dont really want to be bothered doing daily”

[vagrant mountain]

is there a cap to bottles / day?

the stamps are kinda shit tho so its kinda w/e

[opaque sun]

so looking at the long picture, its best to keep upgrading garbage rate (and dabble few into bottle)

[vagrant mountain]

saw a chart and 9-10 garbage upgrades seems optimal

[opaque sun]

When you start to get like few hundred garbages a day, you start to consider other options i suppose

[vagrant mountain]

i think 9-10 will be like 15-20 a day

[opaque sun]

Math wise its 6 garbage upgrade, then bribe for more effective garbage (and a bonus bottle), then all into garbage

[vagrant mountain]

but the price to upgrade it also scales

[modern plaza]

i get like 2k garbage a day right now, am i doing something wrong?

[viscid hull]

yea

[opaque sun]

wrong as in cheating, yes

Unless you mean the giveaway

[proven roost]

even without i still have 10 dr

[viscid hull]

it's expected to get around 10k a day

[modern plaza]

ok ty

[viscid hull]

npnp

[opaque sun]

What i meant is maybe your orb talent level is low and its duration is low? Duration of orb affects a lot

[exotic juniper]

cans someone explain this to me?

[dapper prism]

Pretty simple, every day you have a 26% chance to get a stamp

That stamp gives 95% cost reduction on your next stamp upgrade

https://i.imgur.com/xkLWqCF.png

[opaque sun]

everyday you got 26% chance to get a discount tag

[dapper prism]

You can see them on your Stamp window UI on the left. It also stacks with the Cost reduction one from Atom Collider

[opaque sun]

At 10000 total stamp levels, that mastery effectively caps out

[dapper prism]

If you level up your stamps more (Total Level combined) the higher that chance (26%) would increase

[exotic juniper]

ohhh

That makes sense thank you so much. I didn't know what the purple bar meant.

so is it like the library in that case where for your picture for example the next 5 purchases are 95% off?

[viscid hull]

yes

[exotic juniper]

tysm

[dapper prism]

and it stacks with the cost reduction from atom which caps at 90%, so you could Get 95% + 90% off

[exotic juniper]

oh wow

yea not bad

[viscid hull]

i suggest you go check wiki first next time, would greatly save you time

[dapper prism]

Not sure how the math works for how they stack but i believe its as simple as:
If something cost 100m, -95% = 5m -90% = 500k

[opaque sun]

too bad you are forced to use the gilded stamp, but still its good

[dapper prism]

Yeh, a toggle would be so nice

Also for the atom one

[opaque sun]

Remember to raise all other cheap stamps when you run out of gild

[gritty sierra]

anyone got a couple minutes to help me figure something out

i have two bubonics... one has a max damage of 472m while the other has a max damage of 800m

and i cant for th life of me figure out why

[opaque sun]

Wait, thats the end of question?

[gritty sierra]

https://dasvidanya.idleonefficiency.com/

they both have 4kish wisdom

talents are similaris

[opaque sun]

Like first off they got different rings

[wind umbra]

one has -damage prayer

the other doesnt

fibers of absence

[gritty sierra]

AH

mystery solved

gracias

fuckin hell

[opaque sun]

prayer’s damage penalty is a multiplier so that tanks damage

And weirdly, prayer damage buff is additive

[gritty sierra]

so many things to keep up with

lmao

[tranquil sinew]

[modern plaza]

it just makes sense

imagine being at 38x mk and then hitting 39x mk, that would just be too broken

[gritty sierra]

theres just so many tings you just forget stuff

[rustic sparrow]

whats the best active clash for w5 push

[opaque sun]

for opening portals sometimes its faster to do afk for some people

[rustic sparrow]

I currently have a BB with no zow or chow progress, an es with a lot of portal kills, 2x SB with no SB kills and DKs with no DK kills ( forget the respective skills, but same as the ES portals)

[opaque sun]

SB, DK, ES, bubo are usually good at portal kills when active

Bb and BM tends to do better afk honestly assuming you have acceptable afk gain%

[dapper prism]

Id say stick with DK or Bubo for proper w5 push, since they are the 2 main ones actually used in the last zone. rest is all a bit meh.
Bubo would net you CC along the way

[rustic sparrow]

CC?

[dapper prism]

Cranium cooking

[errant stratus]

Faster alchemy levels basically.

[opaque sun]

i would push with a chopper or catcher as there isnt anything a warrior to do reaching further into a world

[dapper prism]

^ that too, although doesnt take very long to get to the resource areas

[opaque sun]

Chopper/catcher basically takes care of unlocking those skill node mats

[crisp silo]

can someone help me figure out how to get higher fighting afk gains?

i cant seem to get past 200

apart from linking to gods

[dapper prism]

Divine top/legs

starsign (doubling chips)

[rustic sparrow]

sounds like bubbo it is

[opaque sun]

respawn is effectively fight afk gain

[crisp silo]

[dapper prism]

Also movespeed pots depending on map

[dapper prism]

Isnt divine neck better?

Also get yourself a 2nd EMP 👀 !

[crisp silo]

dont have it

only have 1 divine neck

[dapper prism]

even the regular scarf, isnt that better than mob respawn?

[crisp silo]

im on wood mushrooms

[dapper prism]

Whats your kph?

and it's the last one you're superchowing, right?

[crisp silo]

last one of this world

[opaque sun]

deathly cluster is better than green scarf

[dapper prism]

With that kph could probably even eclipse on others before superchowing wood

[crisp silo]

man

[dapper prism]

Each eclipse is like 10% mk/tier

[crisp silo]

next mob i gotta eclipse

[opaque sun]

also as an added bonus, its easy to spam deathly cluster with mystery stone for a 12% respawn

[crisp silo]

i can get 12% res???

damn

gamba time

[opaque sun]

Its not a craft item so mystery also hits on a misc stat

[crisp silo]

can i use the mystery stone v3?

dang it proced +1 res and it procced -1 res agan

[opaque sun]

for misc stat, mystery 1 is better as misc only raises by 1 anyway. Mystery 3 just adds more clicking to do with its fail rate

[crisp silo]

dang

welp of to more dungeons so i can gamba more

[pallid cairn]

Hi guys, best build ES to farm mats ? Damage/multikill or DR?