lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[feral whale]

im asking about it yesterday but if i want to get this wich character i need to farm?

[dapper prism]

ES

[zealous niche]

Active ES is best for anything dropped directly from a mob

[viral snow]

It popped up multiple times for me
But it hasnt a single time for 2 days now
It seems very random , atleast if you switch devices frequently

[untold saffron]

ES

[vagrant mountain]

fuck

[opaque sun]

later world like in w6, DK is probably going to be the king farmer while ES kind of stays back at earlier worlds

longer the orb duration, DK gets better and better, but ES will struggle with future world mob’s scaling HP

[lament talon]

How many chow stacks would yall say are required to start slamming bb into the kitchen?

[opaque sun]

normal chow isnt that too important for ladles

i would chow and super chow at the same time and get it over with in one setting than switching him back and forth from cooking to killing

[prisma drift]

I hate you

[opaque sun]

Until around the time you can kill 5m/hr gmush, i would keep him cooking. Then when you can make the kill, do chow from w1 to w4 with the candies you should have amassed by then

[prisma drift]

Oh am I not supposed to actually afk the super chows

[opaque sun]

what can be done with candy, should be candies

[vagrant mountain]

me too

[opaque sun]

Irl time afk should be used on cooking and w5 chows

[lament talon]

ah damn, that's a ways away ahaha

thanks for the advice though!

[molten halo]

how can he get that high?

I'm stuck with my archers around 2.5m

[fluid pasture]

Guys is it just me or is my drop rate not increasing past x5? Rn im supposed to be at x5.1 but it isn't showing and that worries me a little

[vagrant mountain]

drop rate chip

[fluid pasture]

ohhh. okay thanks xd i didn't know it acted as a limiter

[jagged relic]

I have 11 sheepie pets...I want to die?

[warm beacon]

Orb duration caps at 267 tho

[grand karma]

or gets better at like 310

[opaque sun]

It doesnt cap, its just that 267-300 is when it overlaps and losses effective seconds during the overlap

[potent lily]

What is better troll armor or starfire armor?

[opaque sun]

Past 310, the pure long duration is longer than the effective overlap loss

troll is better by million miles

Starfire is just slab count that ends at an useless deadend

[potent lily]

K

[prisma drift]

Need more afk,respawn, and multi

[opaque sun]

current max is like 20m/hr on gmush, but 5m/hr is like the guideline when you should start doing super chow that its doable within a realistic amount of free obtained candies

[molten halo]

https://segevsegev.idleonefficiency.com/

cab anyone look at this?

[crisp silo]

Oh he has 2 vman

A lot of unused books but whatever

Alot of stamps that can be upgraded

[solemn spire]

Max your anvil points

[crisp silo]

Upgrade your traps man

U can produce a decent amt of nullo

Rank up your refiney

Charge is maxed

Use em

At least u claim yr keys

Id rate this acc a 4/10 in terms of upkeep

[pliant warren]

With the snail, do the points put into encouragement impact later level up attempts or do they reset after a successful level up?

[opaque sun]

The latter

[pliant warren]

Ouch.

[opaque sun]

So using encouragement til like lv20+ is like a loss

Especially with the atom to work as a check point

[pliant warren]

Level 20? What are the odds with that?

[opaque sun]

with the atom, its not so bad

[pliant warren]

Yeah, I don't have that much production yet so I only have the first tier of the particle collider bonus.

[opaque sun]

probably lv25 reach able during 2024

[pliant warren]

Wait, what level is your snail import?

[opaque sun]

mine is going back and forth at lv10-14

[twilit goblet]

day 1 of snail and I misclick the encouragement while spamming plant collections

[pliant warren]

No, as in the actual import item that you can upgrade for higher chance of letters.

[opaque sun]

get the snail atom upgrade online before doing any major gambling

the bit upgrade is like 60 something last i checked

So around 60% chance for double mail

[molten halo]

tx u all

[grand karma]

i failed 3 times already goingn from level 7 - 8 man what

[pliant warren]

Yeah. I'm only at rank 7 of my snail so I have the safety net if I fail. Getting the second rank of the atom is a ways out still so maybe I'll just stockpile letters once I reach 10 and wait for the atom upgrade or something.

Same. I've failed 4 times getting to 7. Luckily none of them were resets.

[opaque sun]

Lv4 atom isnt that too hard

[pliant warren]

For people that have been playing since launch, maybe. I've only been playing since early January.

[grand karma]

oh mine were, but got safety net thankfully to 6 so didnt hurt that badly

[pliant warren]

Ouch

[grand karma]

but the firdt one was to 1 lol, before it released

[pliant warren]

Damn

[jolly quest]

should i craft kattlecruk armors or wait with w5 armor set? which one is better for me. i currently have 1000m damage

i kinda feel my damage will go down if i lose that % stats from armors

[pliant warren]

We already have the world 5 armour though don't we?

[jolly quest]

i mean fire armors

anvil tab 5

first line

[crisp silo]

But theres also the +dmg% so its decent if u are not too dependent on stats for dmg yet

[pliant warren]

You mean the Magma Core stuff?

[jolly quest]

yes

i unlocked the last alchemy bubble but i cant level them up yet because my sailing is little bit undeveloped

[pliant warren]

Oh, derp, wait with, not wait for.

Considering the build path we've seen with W4 and W5, I feel like W6 may require the Kattlekruk armour just like the W5 armour starts with the troll armour.

If it doesn't I'm going to be kicking myself hard. I've already geared most of my family out in kattlekruk.

[crisp silo]

Thats unfortunate

[jolly quest]

i think i will start farming troll boss and make bunch of magma armors first.

[crisp silo]

Goal would be main activers or ppl get kattle and the labrats get magma

[grand karma]

dreadlo armor soon lol (i really hope not)

[crisp silo]

Someone say more def%?

[opaque sun]

you need magma armors to make kattle armors

[pliant warren]

Yeah, but if you have Kattle and the next tier needs magma, then there's no way to backtrack meaning I'll need to go farm to craft all new magma gear to continue into W6.

Well, continue into W6 gear.

[opaque sun]

if the misc applies to the task you are doing, kattle. Else magma

If you dont know, just go kattle as you are probably in a state where few more stats from magma doesnt matter

[jolly quest]

i think ill go with kattle helmet and boots and keep magma armor and legs

for drop rate

[opaque sun]

respawn is effectively “fight afk gain”

[pliant warren]

Unfortunately, those two are the most annoying to farm for.

[jolly quest]

yeah i need recipe for magma boots

got helmet recipe yesterday

[fast grail]

Give me the defense

[grand karma]

camp my man respectfully, you got enough def for w8

[pliant warren]

Who needs defense when you have mana regen 😄

[fast grail]

This is probably true and then some, but number go brrrrr

[fast grail]

Someone’s gonna get one shot by crystals

[grand karma]

you are going to green stack def at this rate lol

[opaque sun]

sad that shimmer island has put a curse on everybody to do hourly clicks of fmj and shaquracy

[fast grail]

With current bonuses in the game, that would be at minimum 20k-25k FMJ

[pliant warren]

But I'm so busy working on sending grind time to the moon.

[grand karma]

to be fair, you are on the right track for that number lol

[hoary granite]

how does it feel like being a god

[fast grail]

True, although for now I am stopped atom clicking FMJ, with current bug prints I click it like once every 8 hour, that time will cut down quite a bit since I just-resampled so have plenty of gold relic to build up now

[fast grail]

Honestly I’m satisfied that there was a shimmer trial for defense and I have like 3x needed to max it out

[pliant warren]

Wait, bug prints? Aren't chopping and mining going to give you way higher outputs than bugs?

[slender spire]

Which class should I go with to kill the w5 boss

[pliant warren]

ES made it pretty easy for me.

[opaque sun]

particles are not that important later on, better make use of those SB print slots

[fast grail]

I am printing fruit flies on both bowman to click the bubble since it costs 1b fruit flys per click

[slender spire]

Bubonic is not good?

[pliant warren]

Lots of heavy damage and AOE, I guess Bubo would do alright as well so long as you're killing the moles before they can heal the boss.

[opaque sun]

Also bb printing bloaches is good now

[slender spire]

Oky

[fast grail]

Wait, what uses bloachs again

[mild wadi]

Not dootless any more. Spent £120 on day 1 of the update and got this on a free roll

[pliant warren]

Atom collider.

[opaque sun]

Catching and fishing wont be 1b per hour, but still like few clicks per day

[zealous niche]

Is this a placeholder meal? Haven’t seen any spice combos to unlock it

[opaque sun]

Yeah placeholder

[terse nexus]

can i link to more than 1 god

[fast grail]

Yeah, once I get 2x on gold relic, will be like 6 clicks a day

[zealous niche]

Only with ES skill (2 for ES) or Doot pet (all for all)

[crisp silo]

yes with es

[grand karma]

shaquracy

[fast grail]

I’m setup for prints to honestly last me through the year, might re-sample mining in the next few days, but nothing past that for a few months unless there is a massive bonus

[fast grail]

Ah, might have to sample bloachs then…

[wide belfry]

Should i just hard farm Fury relic or is that any other relic that takes priority? i got eldritch unlocked as of yesterday!

[pliant warren]

Yeah, Doot is OPAF. I really feel like the practical requirement to pay in order to get him was a pretty bad idea.

[fast grail]

Get tusk ancient

[crisp silo]

1st island relics are p good and p ez to get

[wide belfry]

Is tusk high enough prio to put every boat on first island?

[pliant warren]

It boosts artifact find rate meaning it'll make getting other artifacts much easier.

[opaque sun]

extreme example, getting tusk at the very end after finding all eldritch makes it complete useless. Best done earlier

[lost depot]

Get all the other artifacts that boost sailing before going for Fury. The wait for eldritch fury can take months so you'll need all the help you can get

[terse nexus]

how do i add things to ez access in quick ref

[devout warren]

What is this material?

[quiet pewter]

look at achievments rewards

[crisp silo]

do achivement

[quiet pewter]

trapping dung beetle i think

[wide belfry]

Dung beetles

[devout warren]

Wish i knew that before. I don't even know if Im close to getting them

[quiet pewter]

you can prob upgrade it once at max discount, because bad rounding

[wide belfry]

Its the 3rd to last trapping critter

[tacit tulip]

Would be surprised if that works. 88 reduced by 90% is 8.8

Rounding up or down that's more than 0

[quiet pewter]

ah yeah it wont work, i was thinking of the ones that need like 5 or so initially

[crisp silo]

truly lava math moment

[wide belfry]

Think they need 6 at most to be able to go to 0

he's probs not on his Archer but still wont go down that low

[lost depot]

This bonus is so nice damn

[devout warren]

Is there a chart for trapping? I'm on bunnies

Don't know what is next

[wide belfry]

Beetles are next

[crisp silo]

best low tier pet

[wide belfry]

Shoul be an epic pet tbh

[crisp silo]

no pls

[wide belfry]

power wise

[crisp silo]

i want more op low tier pets

[wide belfry]

But its good that such an upgrade is "available" for free

unlike

[wide belfry]

Only tusk would affect my Artifact chance tho right? unless artifact chance is tied to loot value as well?

[lost depot]

Arrowhead

And unless you have all captains+ships unlocked and going to Fungi Meadows at the minimum possible travel time then you'll want the sailing speed artifacts too

[weary oracle]

Anybody know a guide to skilling samples? So many different ways to increase efficiency and stuff that i can't remember them all

[willow sorrel]

Nocturne gaming Idleon vids

Search it up on YouTube

Probably most current and up to date sampling videos

[wide belfry]

Fucking fuck Job called and ruined my Vman sampling

[loud isle]

didn't pick up all my bottles and left the map and now they're gone, did i fug up or is it a bug?

[wide belfry]

So you dont think I should go do ancient fury before i can farm the last island?

[solid epoch]

I've heard that happens when you leave the map yeah. Always make sure to grab em

[viral snow]

If you leave the map before picking them up theyre gone

[loud isle]

[sharp wind]

Is opening cooler while using orb do anything?

[solid epoch]

No, just affects mob drops.

U can use those clams when ur at a high orb number to kill some event mobs though

[warm kayak]

Whats the divinity link meta?

[mild wadi]

Doot

[warm kayak]

Let me just sell my kidney

[viral snow]

depends on your unlocked gods so far and what youre trying to achieve i guess

[warm kayak]

Just got the elephant

[wide belfry]

Nothing the meta is having doot

[viral snow]

getting goat asap is a good way if youre missing some lab stuff for example

[warm kayak]

And I've put most of my chars on it cuz I'm trying to push my breeding and sailing

I'm already on the 6 man setup in lab

[lilac vapor]

Does bitty litty stack ? If i have two divine knights

[viral snow]

if you just unlocked ephaunt keeping your lab guys linked to goat is probably a good idee imo
for your other chars put atleast one on purr , i did it with one of my es 2nd link

[viral snow]

no

[quiet pewter]

almost all the tab 4 buffs dont stack

[wide belfry]

he wont have purr if he just got Omniphau

[viral snow]

thought purr was the one before omni
but its been a while

[wide belfry]

nah its purr after omni otherway round

[quiet pewter]

no ones memory is purrfect

[zealous niche]

we’re not omniscient either

[wide belfry]

you reach every upgrade with only 6 people?

[warm kayak]

yea

still need 3 jewels tho

and I dont hit the liquid one

[zealous niche]

Six people gets you all but two, seven gets you all but one, and eight gets you all

[quiet pewter]

you can hit most the stuff that matters with 6

[zealous niche]

So most people go for six since that’s a good char cost/benefit ratio

[wide belfry]

Surely this all depends on width upgrades

[zealous niche]

Connection length mostly

[warm kayak]

connection range*

[quiet pewter]

even maxed out, you need 6

if your not maxed, you need more, but i mean taht goes without saying

[zealous niche]

Width does play a part, but if you can stretch your chars to reach the final node then that’s all the width you need. The connection length is usually the bottleneck

[wide belfry]

I currently need 9 to reach everything and still missing a few jewels i think 😦

[zealous niche]

The last node provides connection length, so if you stretch for that first, other bonuses become easier to reach

[warm kayak]

The orange one for connection range is really important

[wide belfry]

is there something like Cogtimizer for lab xD

[viral snow]

make sure to put your bubo(s) on the left or right for their width/xp bonus

[granite grove]

no, you just try to squeeze all that connection and line width to reach all nodes

[wide belfry]

Bubo is on Nobi as i was pushing portals until yesterday 🙈

[granite grove]

optimal amount if 6 ppl in labs to reach most of lab node/jewels

[wide belfry]

Do i need to open all 500 coolers on the same character?

or can i complete the event quests on all characters in good conscience

[viral snow]

pretty sure its account wide
Just make sure to do the daily quest

gives you some extra coolers

[devout warren]

I only have 1 cardifier. Should i use on this or are there better options?

[willow sorrel]

Definitely not

That one is pretty bad all things considered

[devout warren]

It is my best card

[willow sorrel]

Ull get better ones

[devout warren]

Like what

[willow sorrel]

There’s many % damage if ur looking for dmg

[grand karma]

every dmg% card is better

[willow sorrel]

Like night mare troll

Oranges

[grand karma]

than weapon power

[willow sorrel]

Blood bone

Snowman

Don’t cardify oranges blood bone and snowman tho

It’s so easy to grind it

Specially oranges

[grand karma]

all stats also give more dmg than weapon power in most cases

[willow sorrel]

Tl;dr don’t rush

[devout warren]

So if the better cards are easy to get what should i use cardify on lol

[simple void]

Save for boss card instead.

Some example are troll cards or the new krull card. Keys not ez to come by as compared to w1-3 boss keys.

[viral snow]

nightmare boss cards can be pretty annoying to farm
so i would use them on that

[grand karma]

nightmare boss cards, some event cards ( the food effect one for example), kraken card

[devout warren]

Ok ty. I'll save it for later then 👍

I don't have new boss unlocked. Not even close

Trying to get Voidwalker now

[pulsar heart]

finally done

[timber viper]

king doot is a good call

[grand karma]

the shiny one lol

[pulsar heart]

useless to me

gonna do it now for the achieve tho

[hexed crescent]

Why is my lucker no longer getting trapping xp? Is it because I set my traps from my hunter?

[urban gorge]

What island is the 3rd unlock? Trash - Simmer - X?

[timber viper]

fishing, think it was seasalt

[sterile wigeon]

what is gets better wizard or shaman

[tacit tulip]

Both are very viable in the endgame

They have different uses - Shaman primarily handles alchemy gains and money. ES handles worship and monster materials

[grand karma]

also, es can link to one more god so you can maximize your samples a bit more

[tacit tulip]

yeah, critters and exp gains are based on the character that places the trap

[paper sail]

The others characters should still get the EXP though. If you're getting legit 0, you're using 5day Wooden Traps or something goofy

[quiet pewter]

if you have doot most of ES advantages disappear - in terms of having a second one i mean

[sacred verge]

not much advantage having 2 bubos either tho

[paper sail]

Getting all characters 75+ lab without ever stuffing them into a Tube was kinda nice 🤷

[sacred verge]

lvling lab gets kinda easy after a while tho

[zinc torrent]

Why won't shrines work in world 5?

[paper sail]

Well sure, nobody will argue against that. Lab on the first few days or weeks stinky though.

[zinc torrent]

It's not saying I get the damage eor health increase and so on

[sacred verge]

true

[paper sail]

Do you already have the 🗿 Maoi Head artifact from Sailing?

[zinc torrent]

I do

What does it do?

[paper sail]

Your shrines are in effect on every map in the game then

[zinc torrent]

Yes but it won't load the damage

Fx when I'm in town where u placed the shrines it won't work for the maps if I go back to town then the damage increases in the maps it won't

I also have the lab bonus which allows shrines in town but it won't work

[paper sail]

Screenshot proof? Something else is going on, like you're playing on a DK and don't have the Accuracy required so you lose damage

Once you have the Maoi Head, there is literally no way to get rid of a shrine. They are active everywhere always 100%

[zinc torrent]

Yes I am on dk u completely forgot the accuracy thingy haha thank you very much

[sacred verge]

im amazed by how often ppl blame shrines for DK accuracy, ahaha

[tacit tulip]

yup, not once have shrines been the culprit 😄

[sacred verge]

yea

its funny

[cedar abyss]

how do I link with the divinity gods

[brittle dagger]

What is the standard double ES god setups?

I have one for active and one for lab 24/7, is this correct?

Active: Arctis / Omniphau
AFK Lab: Goharut / Purrmep

[sacred verge]

not what i would do

[brittle dagger]

for which, active or lab?

[sacred verge]

active

why omni on active

he literally is for afk

[brittle dagger]

I had it was arctis/nobisect

[granite grove]

also Arctis (talent linked) and Harriep (actual link for money minor bonus) if for resouce printing

[brittle dagger]

Oh wait the omniph doesnt apply to all characters?

[sacred verge]

what do you mean?

no

[brittle dagger]

ah damn okay

I thought both purrmep and omniphau applied for all characters, it looks like its just purrmep that does

[paper sail]

I main-linked Harriep, then used Polytheism to swap between Arctis while active/skilling or Goat for AFK in the lab 🤷

[brittle dagger]

gotcha, appreciate the feedback

[sacred verge]

same for me pretty much

[paper sail]

Now that my ES is temporarily retired, they sit in lab with Harriep + Omni. Not planning to active them for a few weeks at least

[sacred verge]

sounds wonderfull

[paper sail]

Felt like I played them for almost 2-3 months straight after their release lol. It is nice to look at some different skills on the screen for a change

[sacred verge]

same

played soo much ES when i first got it

[signal osprey]

A few weeks isn't long enough. Es has no place in end game as an active farmer

[sacred verge]

i guess farming mats for vials

[paper sail]

I'm not endgame though Still have a few tasks to finish up that ES helps with

[signal osprey]

Print them

[sacred verge]

ES speeds it up tho

[signal osprey]

The only thing you kind of need ES for that you cant get around is hampter farming

[paper sail]

I can't Print stinky Lost Batteries to make DNA splicers

[sacred verge]

atleast from where i stand atm

[signal osprey]

To get your bags done

Yeah he speeds up vials but slows down everything else

And the trade off isnt worth it

[sacred verge]

true

[signal osprey]

DK is actually decent on TV's

[sacred verge]

i used to love active ES now i hate it

[paper sail]

I mean sure but.. ES is still better?

[signal osprey]

For batteries alone sure but you give up all statues, gold food, and construction

[paper sail]

W4 statues all suck anyway

[signal osprey]

The money one is actually kinda decent

Plus making multiple DNA splicers is also just a low prio task to begin with

If you're not end game you definitely have more important things to do

[paper sail]

For sure. There aren't a lot of things left on the list

[sacred verge]

wish i even had a list

[paper sail]

Be the change you wish to see Make a list

ADD/ADHD gets the best of me if I don't. I'll focus on a single stupid task for way too long and forget everything else

[sacred verge]

problem is im quite busy atm so i dont get to play alot. so i need to pick activties that i can leave for longer periods

[signal osprey]

Pick a world you want statues from and leave DK there

Filter mob mats if bags are a problem

[sacred verge]

thats what im doing

currently just doing tremor for golden food, statues and boss keys

[paper sail]

Soon ™️

[sacred verge]

closing in on 10k keys, dunno how many its worth getting

guess it depends on luck ofc

[paper sail]

I spent about 35k on NM Kruk, found 4 capes

[fast verge]

which character is best for pushing w5?

[sacred verge]

damn, its a bit of a grind

id be happy with 1 cape for now tho

[paper sail]

Yup.. 4 was all that I wanted immediately though, so keys are back on Normal for the 5* gem grind

[empty berry]

did u farm the keys with bubo or es?

[paper sail]

DK + Bubo during CC

[sacred verge]

im just hoping for some sailing luck

the last artifacts are not treating me well

[signal osprey]

6k-8k per cape is fairly standard assuming you dont have super low DR

[sacred verge]

whats considered a decent DR for you?

[signal osprey]

But you could always be like me and spend 27k keys for your first cape

[sacred verge]

im at 15 DR

[signal osprey]

Yeah 15 is fine

I was at 16x when I did it

[sacred verge]

i know 15 aint super good but its alright isnt it

[fast verge]

^

[paper sail]

353 kills for my first, 24.7k keys

[sacred verge]

i just wish i had more time to manage stuff. like smaller tasks i should be doing but i dont wanto waste time on as i cant play much

[signal osprey]

Kinda depends on your damage really.

[fast verge]

i suppose its 90m es or 20m bubo

[signal osprey]

Also on whether or not you have 200 tent on bubo. If you have that and you can kill quickly with poison then its bubo

At that damage honestly its probably not even worth it to push W5 yet. It'll be very slow

Theres a lot of things that still need to be farmed in early worlds that you can do while you build your damage up to go through W5 quickly

But if you insist on doing it anyway probably ES would be the fastest

[sacred verge]

20 mill dmg bubo wont get far

[paper sail]

I let BB AFK push lmao. They finished first thanks to Monster Decimator and opened the last map with 40m damage. It isn't impossible, but it sure was a waste of time

Took about a month, for reference

[signal osprey]

I didnt even bother with W5 when it first launched

[sacred verge]

the first thing i did when i got to w5 was to have 9 chars in div and send ES back to earlier worlds to do stuff i skipped out on

[signal osprey]

I spent the first few weeks with bubo on flombs because thats the best I could manage

[sacred verge]

for you more experienced guys, where should i spend my atoms ? besides bubbles

[signal osprey]

Trapping vials officially done

[sacred verge]

which of the uppgrades bring most value?

[steady beacon]

how rare are chemicals in gaming? I unlocked it yesterday, but I haven't seen it show up once yet.

[paper sail]

My Honker vial still needs about a month

[signal osprey]

Always do all daily bubble clicks with atoms. As for the order to max atoms in its usually hydrogen > lithium > Boron > fluoride > carbon/nitrogen/oxygen > neon

Upgrade sodium as your snail requires and carbon whenever your wizard towers hit level cap

Helium whenever you have enough for a level is good too

[paper sail]

Imagine knowing the names of the Atoms

[sacred verge]

yeah

[signal osprey]

Its just the first 11 elements in the periodic table in order

[sacred verge]

thanks tho ;D

[signal osprey]

Stamp discount > NBLB > atom clicks > Cooking > towers/library/trimmed con > damage

[haughty sedge]

Is the building speed bonus from atoms multiplicative or additive?

[signal osprey]

Its additive with the bonus that trimmed slots innately have but the trimmed slot itself is a multiplier to normal slots

[haughty sedge]

ok

i got it

[signal osprey]

With the lab jewel active and maxed out atom you have 7x build speed on your trimmed slots

[paper sail]

Almost there

[signal osprey]

Is your lab connected properly?

[hollow wasp]

besides the last 3, these are all trash, right?

[signal osprey]

Jewel should be 4x

[paper sail]

Everything but the Orange dmg jewel

[signal osprey]

% strength chains are decent for hp snapshots if you bother with them

[hollow wasp]

what do i need hp snapshots for

[signal osprey]

Its a small increase to your mining samples

[hollow wasp]

oh, this

i understand

k, but besides the last 4

i can dump all?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[hollow wasp]

they soak up alot of space tho

whats with red frisbee ring

dump it too?

[signal osprey]

Yeah the only rings you ever really use later on are rex rings and opals for almost everything

[hollow wasp]

and as i have maestro, the club member trophy is this trash?

i can only equip 1 trophy and the maestro seems much better

who cares about 3%xp from monste

r

[signal osprey]

Huh mine is 3x as well. I guess IT isn't accounting for the 50% increase from one of the nodes

[signal osprey]

Yeah it doesnt have much use so up to you what you do with it

[hollow wasp]

ok last question, poopy pickaxe and stinky axe?

[signal osprey]

They are terrible for skilling but they make decent stat sticks for classes that dont do those skills. Like rolling agi on them for archers for example

[hollow wasp]

oh, i see

makes sense

thanks

[paper sail]

Aren't they only better than low-tier alternatives?

Or is that 1 extra slot over Dreadlo doing more work than I gave it credit for

[signal osprey]

Depends on the class really

[opaque sun]

if you can make dreadlo tools, they are better for stat stick

[signal osprey]

The dreadlo pick also gives agi as well and its more than a single upgrade stone so even at 5 slots its better for archers than a poopy pick

[opaque sun]

poop tool is just a cheaper alternative

[signal osprey]

But it gives no wisdom so a 5 slot dreadlo is worse than poopy for mages

If you get a 6 slot dreadlo it would just be better though

[paper sail]

Ah. Fair enough

[opaque sun]

by the time you can make dreadlo as a stat stick for the family, the cost will feel like nothing in relative

[paper sail]

Yeah, I've been in full Dreadlo and Magma/Kruk for a while now

[signal osprey]

Yeah we're living in a time where even DK can farm over a dreadlo tool per hour

ES could get a few of them done if you really wanted them quickly

[paper sail]

I'm sad I made so many before the Pearler cost nerf

[signal osprey]

For once my laziness paid off

[vale wadi]

are the npc tokens shared?

[paper sail]

Maybe one day, I'll level the vial again too

[signal osprey]

The vial is what I'm doing currently. At about 1800 now

[fading dust]

Can premium hats get accidentally used up in crafting? E.g Premium Grandma Disguise for Mark of the Member

[signal osprey]

I would assume they can't because when its made premium I think its considered a different item but I honestly dont know for sure

[paper sail]

Yeah, no idea. I never used my Premiumifier

[signal osprey]

I used mine on a chizoar helm because my BM wore that thing for so long that when I finally upgraded him to magma it bothered me

[paper sail]

Ha, fair enough

After W5 dropped, most of my crew wore the Efaunt turban for sailing. It feels weird only seeing 2 now.

[toxic kraken]

is lvl 20 poison elder better than max boulder roller in tower defense?

[signal osprey]

I need to stop being lazy and move some turbans around so I can boost the gold cheese

I always forget to do that

[signal osprey]

Not sure on an exact level but its probably pretty close to that. Its definitely in the 20's that you want to swap to poison

[toxic kraken]

can I reach 50 in w4 td with lvl 20 poison?

[signal osprey]

I would assume you could but its also been a pretty long time since I was at that point

[paper sail]

The ripped sheet still recommends Boulder at that point 🤷

Doesn't even have a Void on there

[signal osprey]

Yeah I definitely did 50 with boulders

I think I had 60 or 70 before W5 came out and I never used poison until after W5

[paper sail]

Were you in the LowLvlPoisonGang with me that got shredded by the poison build cost increase?

Felt like it took several months to make any advancement outside of what Void allowed for at level 1

[bold quiver]

why cant i move to the next page? i i havent even finished buying all cog slots

i think im at 14/20

[paper sail]

You probably have a dumb .2 cog slots from Vial

[bold quiver]

oh so is that a limit? ffs

just bought 4 gem perks and was like, were are my pages

[paper sail]

Oh hm idk if 8 pages is a limit

I only have 5 lol

I just know when I was moving from 4 pages to 5, I had that issue where the Arrow was there but I couldn't click it because of the Vial giving me a partial cog slot

[sharp wind]

Is there a reason to buy cog slot or you just want to finished gemshop?

[signal osprey]

I just completely ignored poison prior to W5 because I was a noob and didnt think it was good

[paper sail]

Differing reasons then, but same Gang lol

[toxic kraken]

ok, thanks. ill try it

also how do I change the copper bar icon next to my name here in discord?

[paper sail]

In your opinion, any of these statues particularly low enough to warrant target farming?

[paper sail]

#costume-closet though you may need a minimum tier before you can choose your own

[toxic kraken]

it says I dont have access

[signal osprey]

I dont think he can access that yet. I think its bandit bob 4 that you get it

Yeah you just have to be active in the discord and your rank will go up over time

[toxic kraken]

I see, I was just curious about it

[signal osprey]

Money statue is actually kinda decent to push. Other than that you can always use more beans

[paper sail]

Beans is the de facto place I leave DK, right

[signal osprey]

I plan to do beans until at least 250 feasty once I finish pearler vial and 120 mason jar

[paper sail]

120? Yeesh

I haven't spent much time at all farming glass shards

[signal osprey]

I want 210 multitool

Carry cap grind is getting a little slow though

[paper sail]

I had this on my radar to start leveling for that same reason

[signal osprey]

Yeah mine is 176 and thats the highest I was able to get it with just gilds

[paper sail]

Phew

[signal osprey]

I'll give it some hydrogen after 120 mason jar

[paper sail]

Did you pass 10k already?

[paper sail]

So fancy

Were you doing full 5day Hydrogen, then spending the spare gildeds strat?

[signal osprey]

I'm thinking that with 120 jar and either 184/192 on the bag I can get 210 multitool with 130 catching level

Yeah thats the best way to do stamps

[paper sail]

I have a lot I could catch up doing the single day 20% + gilded, but yeah those primo stamps need the full 90% hydrogen or they're impossible

[signal osprey]

5 day hydrogen is too time gated to justify using partials imo

I pick a high prio stamp and max discount it and then just gild everything else up as far as I can

[bold quiver]

its good if u are doing cog session

[signal osprey]

Once most of the 90% hydrogen stamps are maxed its probably worth it to do partial discount on other stuff but reaching that point will take awhile

[sharp wind]

Ah i see

[paper sail]

Yup yup. I can afford 230 Crystallin this cycle

or 108 golden apple but I feel Crystallin probably better

[signal osprey]

I maxed crystalin after finishing multitool

And after that I started 120 jar and that will be followed by 120 gold food

After that not sure what I'll do but it'll be another month before thats done because the 5 day time gate so I guess I have time to decide still

[paper sail]

I might be able to get multitool to 200 if I double the cap star signs lol

147/165m cap looks like

[signal osprey]

Is your rucksack maxed?

[paper sail]

Yeah

This character only has 65 catching though

[signal osprey]

Ah yeah that'll do it

[paper sail]

I should look on the 95 Vman

[signal osprey]

Levels actually help a lot

I'm getting like 2-3m cap per level

[sage siren]

does this work with giants?

[signal osprey]

No you cant spawn giants with that active

[opaque sun]

giants is also a curse, so no prayer also disables that

[raven fog]

Guys i have unlocked all pets and idk where to take my salt from there should i use stiltied seeker or any it doesn’t matter

[paper sail]

I'm unclear on what you're asking. Can you try saying that in another way, or provide a screenshot? I'm not seeing how breeding pets/Stilted Seekers and salts relate.

[willow drum]

same

[quiet pewter]

its generally considered bad to use under any circumstance

[quiet pewter]

stilted seeker for alchemy, boss fights for salts unless your running two BB

[raven fog]

I am talking about the lets

What r u talking about

[timber viper]

is there a shiny level up time table for breeding? cant find one in wiki

[paper sail]

This makes even less sense than the original question

[crisp silo]

What.

[static zinc]

is dk actually better for opening these or no

[elfin idol]

What sort of DR should I be where farming 100 ghosts is worth it wtf

[quiet pewter]

es epanol major para ti? o inglese es tu
primer idioma?

[paper sail]

100 ghosts should take like an hour

[tacit tulip]

Garbage in, garbage out

[crisp silo]

Ghosts have a rly high dr so like any >5

[raven fog]

Me no oblos englis

[raven fog]

Pets

[crisp silo]

So what pets shld you do once u get seeker?

[elfin idol]

Im at 6, so Ill throw some candies at it

[crisp silo]

Active es is best

What salts u talkin about, you mean spices?

[quiet pewter]

i think youve cracked the code

[crisp silo]

My machine transaltion skills from machine translated manhua are finally paid off

[quiet pewter]

"Guys i have unlocked all pets and idk where to take my [spices] from there should i use stiltied seeker [to farm spices] or any it doesn’t matter"

[crisp silo]

U cracked the code

Congrats, now what does seeker even do

[brave sphinx]

I have been revived

[crisp silo]

What the hell

Why is there an integration om my screen

[willow drum]

seeker is borger, you should replace all previous borgers with the highest you can, stilted will probably have the highest capacity.

[crisp silo]

I thought i was done with that

[brave sphinx]

[brave sphinx]

hi

[crisp silo]

Wait a minute, integration of sin2x is -2cos2x

So 2sin2x is -4cos2x

[untold lintel]

bros losing it

[brave sphinx]

oh well gtg grind out my daily summer coobers

[crisp silo]

Jt has been a while

Since i integrated me forgor

[gentle anchor]

does kill per kill work on CC?

[crisp silo]

Ohhh i was thinking about differention

[opaque sun]

cc only counts base kills

[oak saddle]

Can someone please explain to me why is there so much loss in exp and kills

[gray ginkgo]

Yo guys look

Noice right?

[oak saddle]

Ig

[gray ginkgo]

How the hell do you have 1M dmg as a Jman?

I mean Maestro

[oak saddle]

Lvl , cards , armor and some other things

[gray ginkgo]

Oh...

Ok

[oak saddle]

I wanna get 150

And I will skip past the next weapon

Get the other one

Since I don t have 70k ice cubes

[hollow wasp]

i rly tryna get the Bucket of Slush recipe, but is hard lol

[oak saddle]

How do u get it ?

I forgor 💀

[hollow wasp]

from popsicle mobs to thermistor

[gray ginkgo]

Kill Slus

[hollow wasp]

rare drop 1 :174k mobs or smth

[oak saddle]

Mhm

[gray ginkgo]

Oh it's that?

[oak saddle]

Oh its not that bad

[hollow wasp]

yep

[gray ginkgo]

Oh ok

[hollow wasp]

i have my miniboss stack full

[gray ginkgo]

Wdym?

[opaque sun]

use grind time for gods sake

[gray ginkgo]

Lol

[hollow wasp]

so i gotta make use of it now i guess

[gray ginkgo]

Ye

SLAUGHTERTHEMMMMM

[oak saddle]

But does anyone know a answer for my question before with the maestro

[hollow wasp]

i hope i get the recipe while i do deathnote

still got a few mobs and hopefully i get the recipe in them. actually just thermister, bloque and snowman is where i can drop it

[oak saddle]

I see..

[errant sluice]

how many +20% garbage did you guys buy before going for bribes

[untold lintel]

im at 6 rn

[fathom lagoon]

Finally unlocked borger/nutto in breeding. I can basically cheese arena now right

[untold lintel]

gonna just keep upgrading it till like 10

[viral snow]

I went to 110 after unlocking them with 4 pets
Just took 30min or so

[green eagle]

[fathom lagoon]

Gah damn nice, what was your setup?

[graceful bramble]

Is bubo or ES better to farm cards?

[paper sail]

ES for Cards of normal enemies

[rapid talon]

Second time killing the boss

[fathom lagoon]

Btw for the summer cooler event, the quest resets everyday?

[viral snow]

Refiller, rattler, monolithic and looter i believe
The one from the guide
I dont know what made me get that lucky but 12 quadrillion rattlers killed everything in sight

[devout warren]

I think it does.

[fathom lagoon]

But only once per account right? Like not per char

[fathom lagoon]

Oh so you didn’t even use borger?

[devout warren]

Yes only once

[viral snow]

No but unlocking borger makes it available for looter

[fathom lagoon]

Ok bet yea I realized yest but after I opened all my chests lol. I’ll accept it today tho

[fathom lagoon]

Oooh ok ok gotcha. Did you have poop unlocked too or nah?

And the actual pet doesn’t matter right? Like using the stick vs the goblin for refiller

[viral snow]

Nope
I dont have him unlocked yet either 😂

[viral snow]

Just use whatever has the higher pet power so it doenst get oneshotted first round

[fathom lagoon]

Haha ok sweet I think I should be able to push arena a good bit then. Just need to roll a high power looter

Yea I got a stick at 23k, monolith at 17k, rattler at 18k just need to roll a looter now

[viral snow]

That setup is pretty rng based
Use your BM skill for 5 min free arena and get atleast to round 50 ? for 5th spot

[sacred verge]

the best thing about borger is that he makes beating the round 50 easy

[fathom lagoon]

Yea round 50 is the goal for now

[sacred verge]

for 200 you dont need borger at all

200 is easy with defender

[fathom lagoon]

Might do it w borger just for round 50 and then switch out for looter might take a day or 2 to roll a high power one

[sacred verge]

rattler, defender, looter, refiller, whale

and then you can add borger if you can do a 6 pet

[fathom lagoon]

Yea I’m at 4 pet rn so tryna get to 50

Should be able to now w borger

Just got him today lol

[sacred verge]

when you get 50 you should be able to get 200 easy

just requiers some team finetuning and its good

[fathom lagoon]

Any must haves for looter?

[sacred verge]

but for the love of god dont use mono for 200

[fathom lagoon]

I read poop was

[sacred verge]

in my opinion no, but im no expert

for 200 defender is the op carry tbh

[dreamy spruce]

is atoming wis / str 6 times better or LAARRRYY once?

pretty low on atoms, dont think I could use all if I upgrade larry

[green eagle]

would never have thought the thing holding back my vman would suddenly be trapping and not fishing 💀

[crisp silo]

aye i got the hat

[sacred verge]

samee

[crisp silo]

that makes 2 days, 2 hats

[stuck elbow]

oh shoot, what does the quest give you? I was planning to save a bunch and use it all at once, but if i do that i'm missing out on th quest each day??

[fathom lagoon]

…

[clever cradle]

is there a tab 5 recipe unlock?

[crisp silo]

1 shell and 1 wiener, slab is eatin good

[fathom lagoon]

Combination of both quests give you 2 coolers and then some other stuff idr, I don’t think it’s that imp

We’ll it’s 32 coolers over 16 days so adds up lol

I think some oysters too

[mystic mountain]

if you have alchemic unlocked it may brick your setup, but i think you haven’t progressed super far into the w3 pets

[sacred verge]

i had alchemic and it worked just fine

DW, give it a few shots

[stuck elbow]

looks like i need to start doing the quest daily

[fathom lagoon]

I don’t I haven’t started working on w3 pets yet, was focusing on borger haha

[mystic mountain]

ah, then you should be fine then, i used the google doc to help me with doing arena 200, they just mentioned alchemic (bloque) could potentially brick haha

i think the effect turns all your other projectiles into something else which could rip a unit

[sacred verge]

thats why defender is behind looter

making it less dangerous

if it happens looter dies and defender can make it

but yeah ofc there might be some extra risk involved

[static zinc]

is there an easy way to replace caps ive had these forever

and who do i repalce first

[paper sail]

Nothing fancy. 4 new Captains for purchase every day 🤷

Anything Cloud related is the first to get slashed once all islands are revealed

[sacred verge]

cloud is pretty shit even with clouds remaining tho, isnt it?

[static zinc]

still have 3

[fading cape]

yes, because cloud discovery isn't restricted to the 2hr minimum time. So speed is better for cloud discovery in the end anyway.

[static zinc]

also what should i focus on

[paper sail]

For the Piggy treasure hunt, there is eventually a requirement to be a specific class right? Was it Archer?

[static zinc]

may i should get my last egg

[fading cape]

The attack power from non-combat pets until like 3 I think, so that you can put all non-combat on final place. Then the purple wormhole thing. Then fenceyard. Assuming you have max egg capacity

[gentle furnace]

yes archer class

[fading cape]

yes, it's archer. You have to be able to equip an archer only EQ for one section

[static zinc]

this is super expensive

[paper sail]

Thanks. I've put it off for over a year, figured I should get it over with >.<

[static zinc]

same

and fence is max

so the ax and the worm hole

[fading cape]

Do you have all pets?

[hollow wasp]

someone trade me bucket of slush recipe pls >.<

[fading cape]

pastpresent useless if you have all pets. You're already at 3 so probably not worth more.

[static zinc]

lul no

ive been trying for this

[fading cape]

ah. ok. Pastpresent ok then. Especially for W4 pets. But honestly, you're stuff is kinda high. Maybe just upgrade the "no upgrade selected" for the XP boost so you can unlock the last 2 faster

[static zinc]

tho i could prob go for this

[static zinc]

ima save for the last egg first

[fading cape]

The level 60 ability helps for new pets too. So probably after last egg upgrade work on getting that.

[static zinc]

yeah and i just unlocked 2 new pets

3 just got the qunchi

[dreamy spruce]

how much kph would you recommend before going for superchows?

[static zinc]

boom now i have enough

[tawny jetty]

DNA is the hardest thing to get in the game eh lol

[echo crag]

hopefully the new w4 quest might add a stamp for grey dna

[quiet pewter]

Guys i have unlocked all pets and idk where to take my salt from there should i use stiltied seeker or any it doesn’t matter

[lost quarry]

Does the shell in gaming have a level cap or can it be leveled indefinitely?

[quiet pewter]

it goes at least to 20, not sure if it goes infinite or not

[mighty galleon]

does multikill affect the amount of drops you get when active farming with ES?

[dreamy spruce]

only first drop on droptable

[thin kernel]

for Obols .. is the best "droprate" all the way ?

[paper sail]

For active characters, yes

[quiet pewter]

depends whaat your doing, that is def the best set to have in general for farming. construction obals etc can be nice

[thin kernel]

atm im farming keys on all my char.. plus my dk is aktiv for more keys 😄

[quiet pewter]

i mean yeah DR obals would help there

[green eagle]

just waiting for lava to drop this liquid

[paper sail]

I have a set-ish for each skill, then 3x DRs

[quiet pewter]

do skill obals do much? never got round to getting a set

[paper sail]

42 from the Circles and Squares in a Personal set

🤷 It's something

[green eagle]

it keeps on going and going and going and going

[thin rose]

I mean the plat and dementia give skill efficiency

[signal osprey]

Slush and kruk are better though

[thin rose]

True

[paper sail]

Slush will obsolete the Plat Hex and Kruk will obsolete the Dementia Sparkle

[signal osprey]

This is me still coping that one day they will out scale kruk when lava inflates our afk gains enough

[paper sail]

Just a sad little graveyard now

[thin rose]

I like how neat and tidy the normal ones look tho slush and Kruk ruins the synergy

[signal osprey]

Well sparkles outscaling kruk is actually somewhat possible depending on what lava gives us

If you have them perfect rolled for +1 power/+1 efficiency then kruk isnt a whole lot better

[thin rose]

I'm curious on the new statues lava is giving us

[signal osprey]

So a little more afk% power creep could make them better

[thin rose]

Or maybe he was asking to see if he bothers with w6 statues

[fathom lagoon]

Damn DK orb w card drop rate is sooo nice for this new event. Instantly 3 star’d both shovel and blueberry cake lol

[paper sail]

That's my guess. I really wanted a "Yes, if you actually make the bonus worthwhile"

If you're just going to give more flat additive exp, I don't care

[thin rose]

I mean statues are nice ig

They help alot

More early game than late game tho I imagine

But then again every little counts

[thin kernel]

soon my sb is lvl 450 and then it can take a new trophy on 😄

[glad crow]

is servers down or just me?

[paper sail]

The issue is that you can't actually get enough statues early on for it to matter in the early game

[thin rose]

Yeah until you get choco statues are a pain

[paper sail]

Then it is just mix-maxing

[signal osprey]

I'd rather have mediocre statues than no statues

[thin rose]

I need more damage

[signal osprey]

If they arent worth going out of your way for then dont do it and just accept whatever passive bonuses you get as a byproduct of farming other stuff

[paper sail]

Like these are the statues on my alt starting w3 lol

[signal osprey]

Like the W3 skilling statues

[thin rose]

Once I get Eldritch steak and fury I might just devote my life to getting eclipse skulls for a month

[thin kernel]

only a month... XD

[devout warren]

Is chizoar gear easy to get?

[thin rose]

That's how long it would probably take me tbh just to do w1

[paper sail]

Chizoar? Bruv I'm still stuck on Scripticus quests, slow down

[thin kernel]

damn boi XD

[thin rose]

Yeah

I only have gmush eclipsed and that's from sinking every candy I got into it

[thin kernel]

just wait til you can get to w4 then 😄 ez godshard XD

[little harbor]

When should I start getting eclipse skulls? After unlocking all gods and W5 zones? That was my current plan.

[thin kernel]

i was in the middle of doing it.. then start farming keys.. to get the new scarf on all my char as is to good to not have it

and when i get that done.. back to eclipse skulls farming

[little harbor]

How do you keep lab active with everyone farming? Bear god?

[thin kernel]

was lucky and get a doot 🐒

well it works to XD and ofc bear 😄

if i remember it

yep bear

[dreamy spruce]

poopy tools are bis for not skilling right?

[gentle furnace]

Early on yeah good stat stick

[dreamy spruce]

are w5 tools also 6 slots?

[gentle furnace]

I think so, not on my laptop rn

[dreamy spruce]

wait I can check, they are 5 slots

at least dreadlo are, idk if theres later ones

[tepid obsidian]

can proc extra slot with archer skill ?

[gentle furnace]

Extra slot from PO not archer

[tepid obsidian]

o neato

[dapper prism]

I finally did it, took way longer than expected to get the last chem but hey, 20/20 Chemicals!
https://i.imgur.com/s9Il49F.png

[echo crag]

gonna take for ever to get rid of them 1 by 1 lol

[dreamy spruce]

just click harvest all

give in to the temptation

[dapper prism]

Lol yeh, that's why this grind started.. was at around 10-12ish and when i started using them i suddenly ended up on 17. Started using those a few days later and went from 17 back to 17 after about 10ish minutes of gaming. So I thought it may be fun to just hit 20 🤷

[echo crag]

wonder how much bonnus time you'll get after using htem all

[green eagle]

guess i'll spend a few days pumping up that encouragement, and if i reach lvl 15 i'll save up a couple days for that lvl 3 sodium atom lol

[fading cape]

Get rid of 1. Then get something you need all 7 evos for. Then harvest all chemmies. Hope for 7 stage evo

[dapper prism]

Dont even have t7 unlocked yet, this one is t7 right?
https://i.imgur.com/pEOINg5.png

[green eagle]

not worth it, the liklihood is just miniscule lol

rather get the nugget rolls, even though they are meaningless too

[fading cape]

yeah it's a meme action to take even if you had it

[dapper prism]

T5 to T6 was 150 days. T7 totally easy at 15'000 days (thats at 3min cycle, with 10x of that plant)

[brave sphinx]

has anyone even unlocked everything?

like every superbit

[dapper prism]

No

its impossible

[brave sphinx]

[dapper prism]

Even though the last superbit is great, we're all waiting for a new superbit multiplier

[brave sphinx]

[dapper prism]

I feel like this may come out sometime during W6 release
https://i.imgur.com/9Pb99iV.png

[fading dust]

Like my post on reworking nugget system: https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1137467077934985256

[dapper prism]

Which will make Gaming a lot easier, and less rng heavy maybe

[heavy moth]

is it worth it to run that with it or pure agi would be even better for dmg tier

[green eagle]

i admire the dedication, lol guess you just have to make a full page of each and report your findings

[heavy moth]

good point i could test it a gmush

[dapper prism]

Probably Agi if you reach it on the mob you want/need.
A single dmg tier would ne you a few 100's%

Also last bubble scales of stats for even more dmg

[paper sail]

The flat normal Multikill obols are dog

[heavy moth]

yea i heard that multikill obols are trash tier

[vale wadi]

what is better, the no prayers and still get 1/5 or have some prayers on like 3d printer

[paper sail]

Always prayers.

[dapper prism]

It's essentially just the squirrel but for nuggets and increasing nugget value? Like spending nuggets to make sure every nugget you get is 2x higher. Honestly may as well just make nuggets additive and say fk RNG. (New Pet Companion) As spending nuggets would hurt the hell out of you too*

I still think the last gaming unlock could solve a ton of issues.
With an icon of paint it looks like maybe colored versions of a gaming mutations may spawn. All icons are currently white. What if a plant could spawn in green, blue etc. each with their own direct multiplier. If a plant like evergreen with 1-100x bit value spawns in white, it's 1x, the same. But green would be 2x i'ts range, blue 3-4x and so on. Then with the actual unlock you could just increase the odds of the colors, making it more likely to get the better colored icons (multipliers).

This would also make more strategy, as you'd remove all the bad white plants, but if you saw a yellow one (25x value) or something. You're like "OHHH this one i have to get to t5!"

[vale wadi]

other question, what is better invest lot in cycle at gaming or bits ar more worth at fertilizer?

[paper sail]

Bits first, but keep sorta even in cost

[vale wadi]

okie

[paper sail]

I say sorta loosely

[dapper prism]

Also early on if you want to max your value, it's great to harvest plants 1 by 1, upgrade value, harvest more, upgrade it again

[dapper prism]

There are the prayers I always run on everyone (except vman is different)

https://i.imgur.com/sreM0FC.png

[vale wadi]

its now both 200

[vale wadi]

thanks

[fading cape]

I do bits at highest. The mutation and speed ones at half of that. And all imports at half that again.

So like my bits is at 100 cost, the mutation and speed are at 50 cost, and all imports at 25 cost.

Is it effective? I have no idea but it keeps me generally in check always keeping things up to date

[dapper prism]

Different situations, different purpose and value to things in gaming

Going for T6 plant log? Max that speed and kitty.
Getting close to Q5, anything that provides value asap which is usually money>speed

[solemn spire]

Is there an upgrade strategy for sailing?

[vale wadi]

And with harvest at gaming, is the best to wait everything is max evolved, or just click it in right order?

[dapper prism]

Gaming can have some strat

[paper sail]

A little too general for my blood. I don't like the Dungeon prayer, Zerg replaced with Rucksack, Skilled Dimwit replaced with Balance of Prof 🤷

[solemn spire]

My current plan: upgrade one boat for each island, use the materials for upgrading loot value, when i unlock a new island, i rotate all the boats one island further and unlock a new ship that goes to the nearest island.

[dapper prism]

Remove all the crap plants, keep chems, bushes, evergreen as the yield the most value. If kitty is on then Chem to t5 should be easy which is a full day reset for log. Meaning you can chem/log combo.
Also try and hoard 3-4+ chems to get some nice chains. etc.

[paper sail]

My general gaming strat.

1. Click your Shovel and Squirrel to consume charges.
2. Harvest any Cactus plants, followed by any Sprouts, Fungi, Bonsai, and Blossoms. Harvest Voraci last as you need some space for the replacement plants to grow.
3. Harvest the high-bit-value Berry Bush and Evergreen plants if they are at a sufficient tier. Personally, I wait until tier4 for these.
4. Use your Sprinkler charges. Repeat steps 2-3.
5. Use your Log if ready. Repeat steps 1-4 as time skips from the Log count for Shovel, Squirrel, and Sprinkler charges.
6. Use your highest tier Chemical Plant, aim for those along the outside edges of the garden. I wait until tier4 for these too. Repeat steps 1-5 as time skips from Chemical Plants count for Shovel, Squirrel, Sprinkler, AND the Log.
7. Cry because new Chemical plants spawned and now you're stuck here even longer
8. If you manage to empty your Garden, consider if you want to turn your Rock on/off.
9. At the end, you should be left with only low-tier versions of Berry Bushes, Evergreen, and Chemical plants.

[vale wadi]

thanks, I still need 2 mutations. but This helps a lot

[tawny jacinth]

Me who just got blossoms: write that down, write that down

[dapper prism]

Dungeon = I'd rather do 1 dungeon over 8 dungeons for my weekly...
Rucksack = Huge negative AFK gain, and don't really need more backpack space when you get the maxed bags unlocked? Only situation is situational when doing stamps*

Dimwit vs Balance = Can be changed but not like i skill on the alts usually. This way I never have to think about it when I go 3D sample. If i skill then it's an easy switch.

[pulsar vortex]

Where should I be farming for pens and statues and what character?

[dapper prism]

DK, If you still need dice obols, w2 snelbie, pots if you need glass for stamp, Else if no obols, w3 Bloodbones

Also, pen grind is hugely reliant on maxing your crystal rate, and good to have choco chip

[paper sail]

My gripe with Dungeon prayer is that you don't get any extra rolls at the end, which hurts Keychain drops and fragments that I still need.

[dapper prism]

I'm at the point that my dg tickets are slowly stacking up

[paper sail]

I'd put W1 Bored Beans way before Bloodbones. The rest of their loot outside of Pens is meh.

[pulsar vortex]

Why bloodbones? I mainly want an abundance of statues and pens atm. And always DK over ES?

[dapper prism]

Always DK, ES is worthless in this case

[tawny jacinth]

Then you want to use dk lol

[dapper prism]

If your focus is statues and pens on the side, then it also depends on what statues. But what Scoli said, w1 beans is the basics.
If you care about maxing your pens to unlock the first few PO boxes quickly, w3 bloodbones.
If you still need dice obols, go w2 snelbie.

It's all a bit situational, and there is an efficient order..

First you want your dice obols, then a few PO boxes, then you can get statues, you also need certain cards

[devout warren]

I went afk for 2h, logged in, didn't click the ok on loot button and closed the game. The kills didn't count towards portal. Is that normal?

I think i didn't get xp either.

[paper sail]

IMO farming strictly with Pens as the goal is a bad choice. Aim for anything else from Crystals and Pens will come.

[dapper prism]

To unlock Crystal and Luck PO box first, i'd say definetely get the pens first, as the pen rate is a huge difference in some areas

[tawny jacinth]

The short but not short version, es only spawns things that will drop base items, nothing considered a rare drop by the cards, dk meanwhile his orb will affect all drops but the reason he's good is that crystal mobs (which you spawn as your respawn is real mobs) are affected by orb which have a far greater chance of dropping pens

[thin kernel]

38% done of 450 on my sb... soo i will get it to 450 XD then is time to farm more keys XD

[little harbor]

What drives worship charge per day? Just noticed my ES with the best skull is 138% a day while my BM with a skull two levels lower is 163%.

[dapper prism]

Skull, alch bubble purple, and Wizard talent

[paper sail]

I guess maybe to max the Drop Box, but then get off Bloodbones

[tawny jacinth]

Wis stat also helps

[dapper prism]

For charge? isnt that only for souls/effy ?

[static zinc]

im kinda just not sure what i should be doing right now

[tawny jacinth]

Fairly sure it's charge as well, was swapping between cmb and skilling set on a sb and noticed a slight charge difference

[pulsar vortex]

@tawny jacinth @dapper prism awesome that's exactly what I was looking for thanks guys!

[dapper prism]

You forgot to thank @paper sail as their input on statues is a very good point too 😉

[little harbor]

If that is everything how is the BM beating ES? Both have the bubbles, ES should be better due to purple bubble bonus and better skull.

[tawny jacinth]

Why his bm would have more es than his es however I can't think of a good reason

What's their Wis stats just for confirmation

[dapper prism]

same skull?

or are you using a slush* skull which would be terrible

[tawny jacinth]

Yea that's def it

It's the best because it has the highest charge /s

Do I need to really add a /s

[fading cape]

In an advice channel? Yes

[dapper prism]

Yup, was about to write, people will confuse it and actually think that

[tawny jacinth]

Booo

[dapper prism]

Just the other day i had to tell someone to remove their slush* skulls

[little harbor]

https://zmakqo.idleonefficiency.com/

[fading cape]

do have to save your mush skulls though. (Cause crafting)

[dapper prism]

2 BMs, that hurts

[paper sail]

Slush Skulls.

[little harbor]

Am i missing sometjing on idlonefficiency? Shows Zmakqo6 the ES behind Zmakhunter even with better skill and skull

[dapper prism]

Yeh sorry meant slush when i said mush

[little harbor]

Yeah fixing two bms and two Bubo as soon as the thing is in the gem shop.

[tawny jacinth]

I wonder does worship count as town production skill?

[paper sail]

Worship big bubble, as was stated like immediately when you asked lol

[boreal cosmos]

Can anyone take a look and see if there is anything I can do to really boost my maestro green slime kills for vman? I'm only at 85k
https://fraele.idleonefficiency.com

[little harbor]

I have the pet that activates all bubbles.

[boreal cosmos]

Hopefully I'm just missing something

[dapper prism]

Not much input needed besides that alchemy..

[paper sail]

That's an IE bug. It doesn't calculate the extra Worship charge if you don't have it equipped.

[boreal cosmos]

Yeah I work on the alchemy daily

As much as I can

[dapper prism]

Missing w5 alchemy bubbles which are the 3 bubbles that will boost your vman dmg

[paper sail]

Compare them in game and see

[boreal cosmos]

Unless there's a specific bubble that you think will boost his DMG a bunch?

I've been boosting the cauldrons a lot lately vs brewing

[little harbor]

Wait… you saying the pet that activates all bubbles does not work?

[boreal cosmos]

Working on trying to get 200 skills for bubo

[dapper prism]

It does, but not on IE

[little harbor]

Oh got it…. Whew.

[signal osprey]

Go to companions in IE and make sure you have sheepie checked

[echo crag]

you have to equip certain bubble for them to show properly on ie

[tawny jacinth]

Sadly when exporting it doesn't export it which makes it annoying for sharing

[paper sail]

It's still busted. I reported it as a bug right after he released the companion update, just hadn't been fixed yet

[signal osprey]

Yeah but if he's asking about it that implies that its not working on his end either

[dapper prism]

Yeh but at least they would see it themselves which caused the whole questions

[little harbor]

I did have sheepie checked.

[dapper prism]

Doing your daily CC's at least though?

[boreal cosmos]

Yeah I don't get a ton out of it yet sadly

But I've boosted the bubble a ton for when I get 200s

[paper sail]

I just put the Hammer and Worship bubbles on all to work around IE's bug

[boreal cosmos]

So really just as I suspected alchemy then huh? Was hoping I was missing something to at least get him to like 200-300k

[little harbor]

Great, thanks. I’ll do that.

[boreal cosmos]

Seems like getting skills to 200 just even more important. I don't wanna set my maestro on green slimes for 2 weeks straight

[tawny jacinth]

While I'm thinking about it, what's the "end game" div layout, not even close as I'm in progress for goat but want to start fixing what I can for later on

[signal osprey]

Doot

[barren otter]

lol

[devout warren]

Is this good for sampling?

[tawny jacinth]

Yes yes preferably a layout without needing to sell out or sell my soul

[signal osprey]

Generally endgame will be most mages/warriors on harriep and the rest on omni

Nobi is decent on Sb for gmush/death note

And maybe snake/bear for a BB in the kitchen

[dapper prism]

A ton is a little overstatement.
Overall the account needs work throughout many areas.

• Your mman is not rank 1 in the skills, therefore your samples start lacking, which makes bubble and stamp upgrades harder.
• missing a ton of gear slots on all chars including tools
• should have gotten everyones skills to lvl ~8 for iron tools for extra stats and talent pts like worlds back.
• Ton of your stamps were fully ignored..

**- WHY ARE YOU 1 GOD AWAY FROM GOAT, and have 5 people in lab, 5 in combat, without anyone doing div. WHILE everyone is linked to snakes. like what..?! **
- You should read the Pins here. Grind out Goat, move those 5 people from lab back onto div, remove snake and give them bear if you need lab bonuses.

Sorry but do the basic game mechanics before wondering why dmg is lacking.

[tawny jacinth]

Hmm makes sense, es I assume is main linking omni but 2nd links hare and changes that as needed if sampling?

[heavy moth]

for ES i mainly link to bear and 2nd change from harriep to snake/goat for sampling

[signal osprey]

I main link hare and do either omni second or arcits if I wanna pull him from lab

The prints are more important than omni

[tawny jacinth]

Fair, when you're active es omni would do nothing but hare would still be proccing

[signal osprey]

As for sampling its best to do it when you have div resets up so you can swap everyone to snake/goat and then swap back after a sample

[tawny jacinth]

You can unlink multiple people off 1 unlinking? When I tried it it used 1 unlink for just 1 person

[foggy wing]

What lvl of kattlecruk is best to farm cape and neck?

[tawny jacinth]

Guess I'll get a chance to try again when I get goat

[signal osprey]

When you click unlink and are viewing the screen with all characters you can select as many as you want before confirming

Any unlinks done at that time only consume 1 weekly unlink

[tawny jacinth]

Hmm guess I was just a dumb when I did it thought it was click the person twice to unlink them

[signal osprey]

Nightmare because the cape doesn't drop on the other two

[tawny jacinth]

Actually that's even more annoying cause I could have been getting more lab benefits while in div prison ree

[heavy moth]

@signal osprey how much is your W1 statue level and whats the bonus

[dapper prism]

I really should grind w1 statues more but i feel like the return is so damn minimal

[heavy moth]

its what im wondering ahha cause i would bubo otherwise and pump GT more

[pulsar condor]

Need to get more skills levels on vman. I have the green tube bonus, so should I put bear on vman?

[heavy moth]

statues are around level 175 and dont know whats a good goal to stop

[iron citrus]

question: how are some people getting like 1k coolers?

[pearl cedar]

They had it from last summer event 3 yeara ago

[iron citrus]

oooo i get it now

[serene forum]

Is sigil speed gemshop worrh ir

[iron citrus]

ty

[pearl cedar]

It is, but even with it it is still slow af

[rustic garnet]

What is the highest orb map?

assuming 1 hit everywhere

[pulsar vortex]

Probably oranges?

Fully flat and can 1 hit whole lane

[serene forum]

Man but i have all elderich for sigils. That one 20% dr is irl 60%. Afk one as well as the refinery and sigil speed one.

Seems crucial for a decent bonus.

[rustic garnet]

Which classes supply DR boosts?

Is it just SB?

I seem to fluxuate, I was at 18.07x drop yesterday, nwo I'm down a bit again

[signal osprey]

Gotta keep in mind that you also get levels in gold food stamp, green leaves for chopping talent, and hotdogs for gold peanuts while farming W1 statues as well

[dapper prism]

what tab shows them in a list like that?

[signal osprey]

Also for some reason IE doesnt seem to be counting vman so those values should all be doubled

Players tab has a section for statues

[signal osprey]

Which does account for the class based talents that provide statue effect but apparently not the vman talent for some reason

[heavy moth]

that explain the difference in chopping power

[signal osprey]

Yeah thats on my DK

This is an example actually including vman

[dreamy spruce]

I assume voodoo statufication and the tab3 statue talents are additive with each other? not ~4x total but ~3x

[heavy moth]

it still scales nicely theres a good diff between yours and mine

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure the two are multiplicative

[unreal fox]

[dreamy spruce]

oh thats nice

[dapper prism]

I wonder how good of a difference the power stuff does

[dapper prism]

Gz, don't forget to reroll

[signal osprey]

Thats mining statue difference between DK and BM including vman talent

So that means that the DK talent alone is nearly doubling it

[dreamy spruce]

damn nice

[unreal fox]

what do u mean? im new

[rustic garnet]

is the best farm spot for DK wurms too?

in terms of exp?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[dreamy spruce]

you can reroll obols for better stats

[dapper prism]

You know when u did dice obols, you can reroll to get better stats?
You can reroll Divine obol for 6% all afk instead of 5%

i did spend like 2k obols rerolling only 4 of those divine obols though xD

[signal osprey]

And to put that 256 mining power into perspective this is the mining power on a +1 slot dreadlo pick with W5 stones

[unreal fox]

ah i see

[signal osprey]

Farm your statues boys and girls

[heavy moth]

nice roll

[heavy moth]

since i got doot, been at bean XD didnt want to loose the hourly click and atom before

[quiet pewter]

obviously the more time the better, but it will be a diminishing return. are we talking hours, weeks, months?

[dapper prism]

Idk but mine here: https://i.imgur.com/oWd1Mma.png
Was only like 3-4 nights i think

[quiet pewter]

cool, i should prob do some more

good job getting them all gold

[signal osprey]

Beans are eternal

You never stop beans you just take breaks to do other tasks for a little bit

[quiet pewter]

ah okay, so biggest gains is w1 statues?

[dapper prism]

What's your oak sample at with those statues?

[signal osprey]

Depends on your goals but for sampling specifically yeah

Beans is the only really good way to keep pushing samples in the end game when everything else is near max

[quiet pewter]

i could use more sample, only at 150m which isnt really enough to easily atom alchemy (at least not the higher bubbles)

not sure if the fire under the wood is praise, or attempted arson

[dapper prism]

Leveling up my alts skills since they were like 40's. Easy gems? xD

[unreal fox]

finally @@!

[signal osprey]

Yeah doing some early skill levels was fun. I did chopping on everyone a few weeks ago and ended up doing it active because dandilogs got everyone to 50 in like 1 minute lol

[unreal fox]

10' reroll

[signal osprey]

One character gained 20 levels on their first swing

[dapper prism]

Yeh the active part is really fun af xD