lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dapper prism]

bloodbones?

[fast grail]

Unequipped because too lazy to respec

[tacit tulip]

you love to see it

[modern plaza]

make sure to get the quest in w1 first lol

[tacit tulip]

yeah have done

downside being it means I now have 7 DR cards - rip to mimic

[dapper prism]

Dare you to 5* that blueberry

[tacit tulip]

Gonna see how the event goes first

4* it with day 1 suggests 5* might be possible

I'll ruby it if it doesn't

[quiet pewter]

doesnt look like any food drops 😦 i accidentally wasted my chopping event food

[little harbor]

so.... stupid question. but what should i be focusing on? ive got all my guys in Div with 2 gods still to unlock. Only exception is ES who is pushing to open the final W5 portal. i just am not sure what to actually do now.

[viral snow]

got the shiny pearl even though its pretty useless
https://i.imgur.com/JBBZjv1.png

[tacit tulip]

Typically the answer is alchemy

[little harbor]

can you be more specific?

[tacit tulip]

no

Level every bubble up

NBLB levels up the ones you can't

[quiet pewter]

yeah but no fishing/chopping/mining food

[tacit tulip]

noone has time for a bubble that costs 1mil+salt

but you don't wanna waste NBLB procs on...logs

so level things you can

[little harbor]

ok, ill play with that i guess. thanks.

[tacit tulip]

Eventually you'll be fishing to get costs into the 100m range to atom it

the quicker you can levle those "easy" bubbles the quicker NBLB gets the hard ones into atom range

[quiet pewter]

generally its better to do this via alchemy than fishing

[coral goblet]

first day summer event and already have 4 star drop rate god bless

[little harbor]

here is where my bubbles are now. a few are in atom range

[dapper prism]

You don't have any lower ones unlocked yet? or just cropped off?

[little harbor]

cropped

i have all bubbles open

[tacit tulip]

an example would be this one - it uses logs that are easy obtainable in abundance. If you level this, NBLB will hit a different bubble

[little harbor]

ok ill tackle that one first

[heavy moth]

wheres a easy dr gain

[tacit tulip]

this one, too

[quiet pewter]

id priritise first 3 bubbles on warr and wiz, until you get decent samples double digit millions level, after that shove atoms into larry and bob, after that get all skilling bubbles to a set % of thier max (i.e. 85%)

[tacit tulip]

that is the other good option, max out your samples for big gains

[quiet pewter]

theres probably other stuff ive missed, but that should put you in right direction

[dapper prism]

Better Guild, Cards, Prayer

[tacit tulip]

atoms let you do silly things with bubbles

[little harbor]

here are where my mine and chop are at now.

[heavy moth]

card are maxed just not doubled cause of crystal spawn rate

[quiet pewter]

ok for low grade atoming, not good enough for full on atom-everythign mode

[heavy moth]

but good call ill go max prayer

[quiet pewter]

why is your chop half of your mine thou? might be a set up issue when you sampled

[dapper prism]

Usually its a setup issue along with things like Prayer and afk gain items etc

[quiet pewter]

by around 150m sample you can comfortably level bob and larry

[iron nymph]

hm

[tacit tulip]

biiig

[iron nymph]

8000 for months now this

[tacit tulip]

took me 6 months to go from 10k to 15k

you just outright hit the jackpot

probably

[lime kite]

Do shiny pets always upgrade or only when they are on fence?

[quiet pewter]

fence

[tacit tulip]

in fence

[quiet pewter]

🤺

[lime kite]

I'm not sure if I had nutto on fence for almost a year.

[quiet pewter]

im not sure if you did either

[tacit tulip]

they stack if there's multiple, too

[gaunt shale]

peak gaming

[barren otter]

ah yes getting useless nuggets

the pinnacle of gaming

[graceful bramble]

lol funny hat xd

[gaunt shale]

I have given up on getting higher nugget, but soon I only have chems, its really stupid but, fun

[viral snow]

just click harvest all

[barren otter]

yup love clicking the shovel expecting absolutely nothing

[gaunt shale]

[quiet pewter]

wish thecontract was here

[signal osprey]

I had never had any copies of this card before the event. First pic is after 10 oysters from the quest other pic is from 45 oysters I got from cooler drops. I think its safe to say DK orb works

Guess I just 5* it tomorrow

[gaunt shale]

can you explain ?

so, open them with dk while orb active and they get respawned ?

[dreamy spruce]

no open em with high orb and then kill em

[gaunt shale]

ahhh

[signal osprey]

Yeah just wait until the orb is getting close to expiring so you can stack it up and then open everything

Just noticed that this one got done entirely lol

[barren otter]

@signal osprey can you dk orb the coolers...

or is it just cope

[signal osprey]

I want to say yes as my numbers seem a little odd but I didnt pay close enough to the first 15 I did for the quest so its possible I could have had good luck on them

But I'm pretty sure I was getting extra oyster drops from the coolers during orb. Should be able to get a better idea tomorrow after reset

[barren otter]

guess it doesn't hurt to just try it for myself too

I will try myself as well

[worldly bane]

how do you convert sailing treasures down to gold bars? can't see anything to do that

[signal osprey]

One of the early artifacts unlocks an npc that you trade with. He appears on the sailing dock in town

[tall horizon]

Coolers should not be effected by dr

the mobs are though

[dapper prism]

With "the mobs" you mean the mobs drop coolers faster with better dr? (but opening coolers is a static DR value)

[signal osprey]

You sure? I got 1 final cooler from the second quest and it dropped 2 4 hour candies. As far as I'm aware no candy drops should ever be 2 at a time by default

[tall horizon]

mobs summoned from the oysters

[dapper prism]

Ah

[tall horizon]

afaik, they shouldn't be. I cant say with 100% certainty though.

[signal osprey]

Yeah I dont think DR itself affects them but DK orb isnt actually DR so its coded a little differently

Its also hard to tell because according to the wiki 4 hour candies arent even in the drop table for coolers lol

[tall horizon]

Fair, orb did not exist last time. No idea on that one lol

[lost topaz]

I'm calling this confirmed at this point: Event cards are effected by orb. Is this common knowledge? normal DR, and CArd drop cards do not impact the card amount; but orb does.

[rustic sparrow]

just unlocked W5 with BB, do i throw him in div or can i start zow

[lost topaz]

I just tested like 40 shells cause I'm on day 2 event already

Photos are in W4 chat if you search "From: Xngg in: W4"

[tall horizon]

they should be ya

The monsters are effected by dr, so orb should as well

[signal osprey]

Yeah just scroll up a few messages in this channel

I finished one of the cards with 1 day of the event lol

[lost topaz]

yea im reading now

[tall horizon]

Which is wonderful tbh, now I dont have to burn cardifiers for them

[signal osprey]

On those 2 at least. The other 2 are from coolers so ignoring DR means we probably still need cardifiers unfortunately

Even if orb does increase the number of cards per drop if you dont get enough drops to begin with it wont matter

[untold saffron]

is the 500 boxes for name plate account wide or character specific do we know?

[barren otter]

the last one was account wide iirc

i definitely didnt open all 500 on one char and got the nametag

[tall horizon]

should be account wide

[dapper prism]

afaik, just be sure to accept the quest on everyone

[tall horizon]

there is a total counter on player menu

[untold saffron]

sick

[rustic sparrow]

just hit w5, should i pull everyone i have in lab and put them in div?

[dreamy spruce]

check pins for guide

[rustic sparrow]

ok, ty

[untold saffron]

best way to use these oysters?

[terse nexus]

why does maneki kat bonus say 0% ?

[tacit tulip]

reload map

artifacts effect goes into play on map load

so if you just got it it's not active yet

[little harbor]

!chopchart

[fallen jacinth]

anyone have the money chart ?

like dr break point

[gentle anchor]

what is scaled eff?

[untold saffron]

how do we get the coastiolyte card

[dreamy spruce]

Theres no point in keeping extra twines apart from gold twine right?

[tall horizon]

Efficiency that scales based on how much you already have, more eff means it gives a smaller bonus

It's designed for newer accounts, to help them catch up

[untold saffron]

ye, i've been stacking platinum incase its used in the next armour though

[gentle anchor]

ok

[dapper dome]

First Diabolical weapon crafted

[gentle anchor]

what should i upgrade for portal grinding on my divine knight

[dreamy spruce]

portal and statue

[cyan nova]

you mean like advancing through w5?

[gentle anchor]

no w4

im already in w5 but i want him tru w4 too

[barren otter]

@signal osprey dont think orbs do anything for opening the cooler specifically

[cyan nova]

just to unlock the w4 maps I gather? If you're going to do things afk I'd just focus on dmg talents, if you'll be semi afk imho the orb, statue and overblown testosterone seem to be more useful (orb is just good to get kills stacked), also at least 1 point in the shockwave passive and the respawn (divine intervention)

[little harbor]

In tips and tricks to max sample size it says this. what does that mean?

Whoa, that tips and tricks list was sure helpful!

[cyan nova]

the explanation for snapshotting is in the post afterwards, I guess you already checked it

[topaz zephyr]

Does Snail stack if you don't play for a few days or do you have to play everyday to get all the letters?

[cyan nova]

I think you don't (same as the proc for no bubble left behind)

[fathom thorn]

How do we get different colored gaming bits?

[dreamy spruce]

get more bits

I think it changes every 10^16

[fathom thorn]

Just straight up more bits? Okay that's easier

[tacit tulip]

K->M->B->T->Q->Green

then repeat for red/purple

[unreal magnet]

holy

[stiff prairie]

Wait... so just going into alchemy can boost your sampling?

[signal osprey]

No quick ref alch is how you do your hp/mp snapshots

[cobalt moat]

So what does molti do? +25lvcl what? :/

[signal osprey]

Equip cards and gear for more hp/mp then quick ref alch and it locks in the extra efficiency then swap to normal sampling gear

[dapper prism]

Any talent that has points in it just get +25 to its current level

[empty berry]

guys how much dmg is recommended to fight nightmare w5 boss with vman?

[dapper prism]

50b will take you half an hour about

[untold saffron]

I did it with 75b comfortably

[dapper prism]

I posted a vid on Vman NM Kruk kill here:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[cobalt moat]

so if u lvl up a thing once it becomes lvl 26?

[dapper prism]

Pretty much, plus whatever bonus u have from ES and/or bear

[cobalt moat]

sick

hvala :D

[dapper prism]

As long as you 1 shot moles, the only difference damage will do is time.
Could probably do it with 10b dmg if u want to spend 1-2 hours there
Just math it backwards, if 88b took 12min, 44b will be like 24mins, etc. (keep in mind i didnt have fist talents maxed or properly leveled.

[stiff prairie]

slug is a big help for getting the... "explosive" levels. Like tenacleeye on bubo, an extra 25 lvls helps a lot.

It's the difference between struggling to loop, and struggled to keep up with the amount of kill

[dapper prism]

Think with slug and everything else done properly you could get 200+ tente without even having fury

Not sure how easy/efficient it would be to reach though

[stiff prairie]

And i can confirm that, i have rift slug and no fury, but i have lvl 202 tentacleeye, and my current max lvl is 211-ish because of atom.

[faint yew]

Where do we kill the Plasti Dougs and Mr Blueberry's?

[sick orchid]

do you need to go trough portal for this to work or just change it on the same world?

[dapper prism]

You equip everything that gives you %stats and mana, like magma gear, mana cards, etc. open up quick ref alchemy which saves it, then you change to your effy boots and sample cards etc. and just sample.

Any time you change world/zone/map this will reset and you would have to do it again

[sick orchid]

Thank you

[dapper prism]

So you usually only do it at the important mats like Oak/copper and maybe if you need a specific material

[dapper prism]

See this link and the 2 links on it:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

For more sampling help/spreadsheets on things to remember

[zealous niche]

Kill normal mobs, get your 50 coolers, when you open them you have a chance of mob spawning iirc

If it’s not from the coolers, it’s from something that drops from coolers

[dapper prism]

Those mobs are affected by DR, orb unconfirmed but worth doing anyways

So do it in an area that's easy to stack orb like citringes or bloodbones or something

then spawn them when your orb counter is high

kinda the same as when you do your minibosses

[stiff prairie]

Well, 39 clams gave me blue stared blueberry

Unsure if that's helpful for rates (about lvl 200 orb)

[dapper prism]

Remember, items like that can also help you to progress in rift

[hollow apex]

What's the general consensus on upgrading to kruk armor? Just got done upgrading all 10 to w5 armor, is it worth it to upgrade them all to kruk as well?

[little harbor]

was this ever fixed so leveling it did something? About a year ago it didnt work.

[dapper prism]

Not sure about the confirmed answer to that, but i've been told it worked (but only if you're in the same map like usual leveling it)

[signal osprey]

Orb is very much confirmed to work on the mobs. Its unconfirmed whether or not it works on coolers.

[safe harness]

is the summer event out? exited out of game but there was no update for steam

[dapper prism]

I thought rashaken somewhat-confirmed that coolers shouldnt be affected by dr? (which should include orbs i gues)

[stiff prairie]

I hadn't considered using it on coolers. i'll have to try that tomorrow.

[dapper prism]

Close game, restart steam

[safe harness]

ill try that, thanks

[signal osprey]

Tentative answer for coolers is likely that it doesn't work but I had a candy drop that shouldn't happen normally as far as I'm aware

[azure spindle]

does getting a lava skulled enemy in rift feel kinda janky to anyone else?

[signal osprey]

That being said the drop table for coolers also appears to be different from whatever it was last time so ots possible that the drop is normal now although it would still be inconsistent with other candy drops from bosses or previous events

[stoic silo]

are the stats intended behaviour?

[dapper prism]

visual bug, either change map or restart game

[tall horizon]

Im guessing the cooler now uses the standard RDT that all bosses/minibosses use. I've tried a few times with varied orb values, I keep getting the same rate of cards/candies 🤷

[signal osprey]

I was assuming that too but I thought the RDT can only drop 1 of each candy by default

[summer walrus]

Does bubble chat ring count towards slab

[tall horizon]

Orb works on minibosses, so it must also work on coolers

[signal osprey]

I definitely got 2 4 hour candies from a single cooler with a 900 orb at wurms

[tall horizon]

though i keep only getting 1 card, so its... weird

[signal osprey]

Yeah I noticed that too although my sample size is small given that I only got 1 card to drop at all

[wind creek]

Can someone explain sailing chests, i cant find much info on it. How long does it take to get a chest? how many chests can you hold without gemshop upgrades and how long does it take to fill

[quiet pewter]

yeah, a journey starts off at ...nvm contract prob gonna explain it

[signal osprey]

The time to get a chest is based on how fast your ships complete a trip. The cap is 5 by default with more unlocked through merits and a sailing artifact and how long that cap takes to fill will depend on how many ships you have

[wind creek]

so ill get a chest every 2 hours if my 1 ship has a 2 hour trip?

and will fill storage in 10 hours?

[signal osprey]

If you only have 1 ship yeah it would take 10 hours

[prisma drift]

One tenth of the way there

I want them purple numbers

[wheat kiln]

Guys in the arcade all upgrade is aditive?

[prisma drift]

No the critter and souls are multi

Very good upgrades

[wheat kiln]

Hmmmm nice

[prisma drift]

But if you meant DR yeah that’s additive and pretty tiny

[wheat kiln]

Willl make a diference when you get alot dr from other thinks

[prisma drift]

Eh I mean it maxes at like .15 dr

So it’s very expensive for the amount of DR

[bold quiver]

Does anyone here has 2 steam acc with the game?

[steady cloud]

little more bragging.

[bold quiver]

tried to log in my IS other steam acc here on this pc by swapping steam acc and it didnt even load the clouddata, it loaded my older acc one '.'

[modern plaza]

do we know if Shells will work in rift for DK?

[hybrid geode]

is this max level talent bugged?

[bold quiver]

why

[modern plaza]

no just for library

[bold quiver]

is it bugged for library

[bold quiver]

its construction

[wind umbra]

no it increases the lvl of the building

not the book lvl

[hybrid geode]

ohhh thats wild

cant read i guess

[modern plaza]

does this work on golden foods too?

[fathom lagoon]

I feel like no but in actuality I have no idea

[modern plaza]

ok i put some points into it, nope lol

not visually at least

like EXP Potions didn't increase either 😦

[zealous niche]

It’s not about max level talents, it’s about the level of the library building in the construction table

[prisma drift]

Too bad they don’t drop candy

Would have made a killing

[modern plaza]

lol i opened 10 shells and they are all 4star....

[zealous niche]

Do we get other event cards from them this time?

[little pagoda]

How do I get more coastiolyte cards? Is it doing the quests?

[flint shadow]

does Golden Ham work with construction exp?

[frigid remnant]

what is the pre req for using candy in w5? i just get the "too hot" message

[cedar sun]

wont work til w6 comes out

[frigid remnant]

alright fair, was wondering since im 80% done w5 lol

[cedar sun]

thats how its worked for all new worlds so far

[frigid remnant]

cool, i only started playing when 5 just came out so now i know for the next world

[green eagle]

think it's opening coolers, the other cards come from opening shells

[prisma drift]

Can you use shells in Colo?

[serene solstice]

with non kitsune

lmfao

I am just too lazy to use my chemicals..

since I am getting non stop snail resets

[prisma drift]

I’ve had some good yolo luck up to 9

Not excited for 10-15

[serene solstice]

I got 3 resets to 10 and one before to 0

:)

I am thinking of going for my last t6 while going for lvl 15 snail before I go normal again xD

[modern plaza]

im impressed some people went to 15 without the snail atom

[little pagoda]

Yeah I guess that might be it

[prisma drift]

I’ve yet to have a reset yet to 10

How bad are the 14-15 odds?

[little pagoda]

Game keeps giving me the wrong one

Guess I'm not luck today

[stiff kayak]

how am i suposed to get the previus weapons for slab?

[azure spindle]

as long as you pick up later ones the earlier ones will get counted

[stiff kayak]

ok i got scared for a moment

[modern plaza]

yo they are like the easiest slabs to get 😄

[little pagoda]

Are these summer upgrade stones just trash?

[thin spindle]

yes

they might be good for starters i guess

[little pagoda]

Maybe they're better than w2 idk

[dapper prism]

I need 1 more chemical 👀 (For the lolz)
https://i.imgur.com/XLgkAoA.png

[serene solstice]

xD I am about to harvest all just for fun

[dapper prism]

Oh wow xD that'd be soo many nuggets but also missed logs

[signal osprey]

The harvest all nugget circle is the correct way to game

[coral goblet]

which obol is the sparkle one for drop rate?

dice or RDP

[serene solstice]

too lazy to use logs would just go for last t6 and then wait for snail lvl 15 or maybe even for a better nugget first...

[signal osprey]

Sparkles are dice

[dapper prism]

Dice, also what's rdp?

[coral goblet]

thanks contract

i meant the pop

[gentle anchor]

i dont see him where is he?

[serene solstice]

w1

[gentle anchor]

in town?

[serene solstice]

ye

[gentle anchor]

where i dont see him

[serene solstice]

did you update your game?

[gentle anchor]

no

do i need to do that

[serene solstice]

then do it

[gentle anchor]

ok

[serene solstice]

yes you do need to do that

[worn sonnet]

ez

[manic moat]

after trash island, shimmer island?

[gentle anchor]

how rare a cool boxes?

if i afk 1 hour (killing 1Ok monsters) will i get one?

[manic moat]

not rare. took 15-20 minutes using ES

[worn sonnet]

If you afk 1 hour you should get the cap

I do reccomend dk though

so you can kill the summer mobs with a built up orb

[zealous niche]

Do salt, I regret shimmer

[zealous niche]

Don’t get any afk

[gentle anchor]

why

[zealous niche]

Events are active, the thing about leaving it is they will be auto looted

Not they drop from afk claims

[untold cypress]

random damage drop between Spitfire River and Miner Mole Outskirts. Was fine before i did a respec.

Anyone know why this happens?

[zealous niche]

Lack of accuracy

Squire has a skill that gives you massive damage if you have 1.5x the accuracy needed

[untold cypress]

Oh. Shit. I forgot about that

[zealous niche]

Is it equal chance to roll any of omni’s procs?

[little pagoda]

must be nice

[bright current]

TFW no rift slug

[little pagoda]

lol

I'd rather have doot than slug but that's just me

[bright current]

yea for sure

but 2 doot no rift lmao

[little pagoda]

The rarest duplicate I have is ram I think, only lacking doot though

[bright current]

rams love me

[brisk bane]

lool you made me check and my only T6 plant ever was a Chemical hahaha

[brisk halo]

so guys a question

[serene solstice]

xD

[gentle anchor]

does anyone have that picture from what lvl ur refinery rank need to be to go on forever

[bright current]

i think its in W3&4 pins

[brisk halo]

I make 50 plat coins per hour on suggmas, ( i just arrived on W5), but after collecting 1 hour of afk i received 1 dementia and 79 plat

i did the calculations and if i multiply my afk money with my drop rate it makes sense

can someone confirm that's really how it works?

i had 3.33 DR and 53997549 x 3.33 = 179811838

which is what i dropped

[bright current]

i mean

u can check it pretty easily

check ur afk money gain in the away info screen

then equip/unequip some DR cards and wtff

stuff

doesnt change

[bright current]

sheit, it does?!

[opaque sun]

unless it breaks certain points of dr, money doesnt changes. But if you are aware of the the break points, dr is still a big influencer to money gained

people are way past 13x now, but the break point rule pretty much should apply like every odd number of 1Xx dr i suppose

[rough crest]

is the slab not showing collected tokens for others as well? i assumed it was collection account wide

[quiet pewter]

take them out, drop them, put them back

[cold magnet]

Just a quick question on gaming with the sprinkler? Why can I activate it twice? Is that what the gold sprinkler allows? lol

[quiet pewter]

30% chance for it not to use up its chargers per gem upgrade

[cold magnet]

Oooooh. I guess I didn't read. Heh.

On a seperate note, how does the gold shovel work? Does it just gain charges over time?

Tried looking it up and found nothing

[quiet pewter]

theres a gold shovel? i just got the regular looking one, should i complain?

[cold magnet]

No haha I'm saying the shovel that digs gold

[quiet pewter]

gains a charge after 1 hour, dont click it before that, gains extra charges, at a worse rate, after that

nugget size is a complete lottery, but the upgrade makes it [otentially a igger nugget

[cold magnet]

kk, I thought so but wasn't sure

I only check idleon like 3-4 times a day

Once when I wake up, once in the middle of the day, and then when I go to bed xD

Suffering atm though because I basically skipped W4 in terms of progression. I kinda just brute forced my way through using Mages absurd crits

But it means I now actually have to upgrade everyones gear from W3 gear LMFAO

[pulsar heart]

base dmg bubble kinda op i gain like 200m dmg per lvl

[woeful current]

A quick question, Does golden food effect affect every food time like boost food such as the stained pearl from the event?

So the base of the pearl is 30% swing speed for mining . What makes it go higher then 30%?

[gentle furnace]

Is the food golden? if not then it doesn't

[fervent brook]

Slowly but surely getting all bubbles to atom range. Has not been as bad as I thought it would be.

[woeful current]

I dont know really, since igot bubles etc that gives effect i cant really test it

[gentle furnace]

All event foods are normal boost foods

[woeful current]

So what would effect normal boost food?

[placid mural]

Boost food buffa

Buffs*

[woeful current]

Such as? golden food effect? like the talent for warriors?

[placid mural]

No that is for golden food. . . . .. .

[woeful current]

AAAAAAAAAH right thanks!

[pulsar cliff]

No worries!

[woeful current]

I was trying to figure out why mine was 14% better then my friends one lul

[pulsar cliff]

There might be other sources but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. And the set effect.

[woeful current]

That is better then what i could figure out lul

[twilit goblet]

3 day waiting game after getting Snail?

[pulsar cliff]

Pretty much

[twilit goblet]

so i wouldnt need the atom collider upgrade till i get to lvl 5 huh

[pulsar cliff]

Correct

[twilit goblet]

thanks! ill upgrade something else at the meantime

[signal lava]

is there a recommendation on what's best to use the stamp cost reduction on?

[gentle furnace]

Multitool

[gritty sierra]

Hmmm where do I kill these vibe check mobs

[gentle furnace]

Also mason jar, gold food, boost food, potion

[pulsar cliff]

They get summoned from clam shells

[heavy moth]

damnnn 500 bottles

[foggy briar]

I was gonna do it alone, but I am not sure where I put my points

Just unlocked it, havent done speed runs yet

[pulsar cliff]

You can't now either lol

Oh wait you still have points.

For speed run, first 2 are most important (imo)

[foggy briar]

I could reset it too

[pulsar cliff]

First one lets you actually do the speed run

[foggy briar]

Do I skip third and forth for now?

[pulsar cliff]

Wouldn't worry about the 4th, third is good but not super necessary for a lot of prog in the run. Great for samplin. I'd leave one point in it

[cedar sun]

you're not going to get very far for your first run. takes a few runs to get where you want to be. first two skills are all that really matter starting out

[exotic juniper]

Any suggestions for how to spend bits / when to save up bits for gaming? I have 155,000x nugget, My next superbit unlock is the 2b plant evo, i get about 50m bits for a full page. Not really sure what to do

id like 611b snail but that would take forever still with my current output

[twilit goblet]

if youve already gotten all other imports, upgrade everything if they're cheap till you feel like it is feasible to save for Snail

[prisma drift]

Man I want better nug

[barren otter]

[exotic juniper]

what is yours @prisma drift ?

[prisma drift]

31k

At least I get an average of 200

[barren otter]

i just want to stop failing my lvl 11 snail...

[exotic juniper]

i went from 7k nugget to 155k lol

[prisma drift]

I got a 150k and it didn’t save

[exotic juniper]

rip

[prisma drift]

So I pretend it didn’t happen

[exotic juniper]

i feel you

is snail supposed to be slow grind of saving up bits?

[prisma drift]

It crashed when I screenshot

[exotic juniper]

i really need ancient weatherbook

[prisma drift]

Ah to get snail somewhat

Don’t sleep on your other sources of bits

[barren otter]

pump up your bits meal levels

alch bubble

[prisma drift]

My trash nug hit red bits

[barren otter]

yea same with mine

[prisma drift]

Just gotta pump random stuff

[barren otter]

hit it with a 22k nug...

[exotic juniper]

Is there a trick for the log game? I record on my phone and still lose at like 8hr mark lol. is it just random? I lost on first try earlier lol

[prisma drift]

It’s definitely skill

Keep trying till you master it

[exotic juniper]

i was sad abiout this for achievemnt

[prisma drift]

I gave up

I can admit to losing to lack of skill

I cannot take L’s from lag

[twilit goblet]

is idle skilling hat better than magma head for sampling?

also what about the trophy? thinking if i shud start playing it. How long would it take though

[frigid acorn]

trophy is good , only takes about 14k keys to get a cape gl tho

[foggy briar]

Goddamn

got 500 points on first speedrun

What do I spend them on now?

multikill seems nice

[cedar sun]

the bottom right talent is a HUGE buff to cooking speed so dont sleep on that

[twilit goblet]

which cape? katt cape?

[frigid acorn]

💀 you didnt finish the quest yet ?

[keen aurora]

how i play that poing game

[twilit goblet]

idk what quest that is

[frigid acorn]

then focus on the other things i think you probably struggle fight nm kattle

[prisma drift]

Kattle in idle skilling

[twilit goblet]

i havent fight nm katt, my toons are only 5b dmg in general or lower

[prisma drift]

IS is 1-2 months if you actually play

Hard focus realms

[frigid acorn]

yeah get 2 more digit on it then you can do it

[twilit goblet]

actively? damn thats pretty long

[prisma drift]

Eh don’t need to babysit it as much as idleon tbh

[twilit goblet]

im on idleon for almost 3 months, another 2 months for trophy would be quite something

[frigid acorn]

tbh this is much harder at farming keys than kill the boss

[twilit goblet]

kek just checked, only 2 months on idleon, i might have to look more into idle skilling and see if its worth

wow that drop chance

[prisma drift]

It’s bis for worship and trapping

I think the new afk trophy is bis for other skills

[twilit goblet]

the island of nothingness? that'll take awhile too i suppose, but yea it does look stronger with the afk gains

[prisma drift]

Big afk when you double it

[foggy briar]

Does this apply to voidwalker himself too?

[twilit goblet]

big afk if i get double chip from rotation or gamba

[prisma drift]

Only he has sleepin on the job I think

[twilit goblet]

im still missing the trophy and pendant doubler, not sure if its worth gambling for

[pulsar cliff]

This is going well lol

[prisma drift]

Other classes have different afk talents

[valid frost]

how can i verify that the div xp gain from mentra stance is actually giving xp to all chars?

cos i have a hunch that the mantra xp isnt being properly distributed

[pulsar cliff]

As long as you're AFK for a min of 1 hour, Mantra is applied to all

[dapper prism]

wtf that xp multi is really low for mindful?!

[valid frost]

isit reflected in the afk gains?

[pulsar cliff]

It isn't reflected in the AFK gains

[valid frost]

oh so the 1 xp per hour just happens?

or its like howtrapping drone can give xp to afk players

[zealous niche]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[frigid acorn]

[valid frost]

lol theres a whole command to explain mantra

cheers guys, thanks

[wanton obsidian]

What's up with this glitch man???

The boss is untargetable

[dapper prism]

Looks like the whole platforms are glitched so obv something wrong, you reloaded the map?

[cedar sun]

I get untargetable bosses more often than not with the events. There's also something wrong with archers that makes them slide off the map periodically. Used to happen with chizoar all the time but he fixed it a while back

[pulsar cliff]

Gonna ignore fishing on my VMan until I unlock seasalt islan lol

[foggy briar]

worth doing sacrifice?

[pulsar cliff]

Whenever I popped a 100, I would save for it. Only 'cause I know RNGesus has it out for me.

[untold saffron]

Yeah always better to hold the 100%s

[rigid magnet]

this is an archers bug

would recommend doing the events w non-archers as it happens less

or you can unequip the weapon

[spark pasture]

I'm playing on steam, and it is up to date, but when I try and play the game says I have to update it to play

[pulsar cliff]

God damn that took forever.

[paper sail]

Coastiolyte quest daily or just once per event?

[crisp silo]

most likely daily

[lament jasper]

money obols worth keeping for bubo or you go full DR even on money farming ?

[paper sail]

DR gives money more effectively than the Money obols

[lament jasper]

ight thanks

free fragments

[wind umbra]

since its possible to super chow rift monsters, is it possible to eclipse skull them as well?

[paper sail]

Mmm yes fragments

[lament jasper]

im poor as hellllll

as soon i get some they instantly get used lol

[paper sail]

I already finished Super CHOW on the rift, no extra MK in the Deathnote for it.

[paper sail]

It be like that until it doesn't

[lament jasper]

I still have some time to get to that point though lol, i almost finished my family+personal DR, i'll need every single skill after that lmao

[paper sail]

Slush beats out all the individual skill hexes for me now, and Kruk beats all the Sparkles except Trapping and Worship. It's sad

[wind umbra]

damn guess its a seperate counter then

[lament jasper]

yeah but slush kindaaa hard to farm

and kattle, well i need to finish my DR sets first lol

[paper sail]

Just a graveyard of unused obols now

[lament jasper]

what kattle gives ?

[paper sail]

5% all AFK, 2% total damage by default. Mine is rerolled

[lament jasper]

damn

6% all afk is fucking massive

[pulsar cliff]

You rerolled all of them for the double misc??

[foggy briar]

wat

[lament jasper]

vman ?

[foggy briar]

Shouldnt it be 0.66*362?

[zealous niche]

What what

[lament jasper]

apparently its ass below lv500 and it instantly skyrocket, i asked the question few hours ago too

[zealous niche]

0.0066^32 I believe

It’s a decimal of a percent

Sorry, 1.0066^32

[pulsar cliff]

^

[sweet mountain]

Is there a way to know how many kills I have for a particular character? Want to check my progress for 100M kills for my BB

[lament jasper]

Sure, in cards

[zealous niche]

That doesn’t math out either, but the idea of the formula is something like that

[sweet mountain]

But isnt that across all chars?

[zealous niche]

Colour of skull is overall DN dependent, number is that char specifically

[steady token]

it's so easy to 5* these two cards, I got this from using DK.

[lament jasper]

nope, it's character dependant, though the skull shown on the left side is the deathnote one, which is account wide

[fathom lagoon]

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559

[zealous niche]

Can’t have an eclipse skull with 28M kills

[sweet mountain]

Ok. Thanks.

[lament jasper]

eclipse is 1000M right ?

it gives damage and more MK right ?

[zealous niche]

Each skull gives 5% total damage

[paper sail]

5% dmg and 20% MK

[zealous niche]

Each eclipse*

[lament jasper]

nice

[steady token]

does the coastiolyte's quest reset daily like picnic?

[gritty sierra]

Ah shit... do recipes count for looty mcshooty

[paper sail]

Just one per tier

[zealous niche]

Each recipe type

[gritty sierra]

Ah thank god

[steady token]

ty

[zealous niche]

If the icon is the same, then they’re the same for slab and looty

[fast grail]

How many frags did you use to get BOTH misc +1?????

[zealous niche]

I know this is a sore topic, but I’m freshly dooted. I’ve rearranged lab and resampled, any other things I should know about gameplay changes?

[lament jasper]

damn u reminded me of doing my pet pull

hell naah

at leat i'm on X2 for the next ones...

copium

[fast grail]

Optimize printer slots to get hourly clicks since everyone is printing x6 now, might not need 2 slots for something you were printing before

[sweet mountain]

Even if we disregard the morality and gatcha aspect of pets, I feel it is such a bad mechanic even if you "win" at it. I already have doot. There is nothing more for me to do with it. I can't even use my free rolls to get good pets to trade when the new rotation comes because, well, they are untradable and unrecyclable.

[lament jasper]

The untradable and unrecyclable because they're "f2p rolls" is bs imo

[fast grail]

Also if you are hourly click. now every hour switch to other chars to pray for 3d printer progress proc, on average with doot you are also getting 2.5x hourly clicks per hour

[lament jasper]

It protects from people creating accounts all day get doot & trade but it makes every free roll litteraly useless

[sweet mountain]

I think making it unlockable only at world 3 or 4 would have the same issue. I mean, hell, even World 2 would help. How long does it take to get to W2? 7-8 hours if you speedrun it? That alone will stop people from creating new accounts all day.

[lament jasper]

probably yeah

But i don't think lava is willing to do any change about it sadly

hope he does some day though cause the gacha is just frustrating and theres litteraly nothing really interesting about it (except the funny stats they give ofc)

[paper sail]

It just happened, I didn't try for it intentionally. I rerolled the first uhhh like 10 or 12 of the sparkles that I picked up until I hit 6% AFK. One happened to hit both.

[fast grail]

Honeslty I wonder if hes done something with doot rate, because i swear the past 2-3 weeks I have seen an insane amount of f2p doots compared to before

[lament jasper]

probably cause of the multiplier thing

[little harbor]

whats the team to beat wave 200?

[pulsar cliff]

Probably the same one for the last 50 waves

[little harbor]

cant remember what that is, and the guide is gone (unless there is a new link?)

[lament jasper]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[fast grail]

Hmm, how is this for rift kills for super-chowing compared to others? No idea what good numbers are here

[pulsar cliff]

Looks solid

4 days or so?

[fast grail]

Cool, Now to wait 100 hours

Yeah, little over 4 days

[pulsar cliff]

I got all the way to the end before realizing I could super chow 'em. :

🥲

[dapper prism]

I was Rift 31 at 2m+ kph but didnt do it, pushed to r41 when i realized that i forgot, had to do it at around 650k kph

[jade zenith]

best post office boxes for ES?

[fast grail]

All

[dapper prism]

PO is like a 3-4 day grind once you start it, not much of a "prio" thing.

Meanwhile could just do DR and CDR

[manic moat]

is there a consensus magma vs divine?

[dapper prism]

Afaik
Magma = Overall great, Plus for Money and skilling SAMPLES (+effy boots boots)
Divine chest and legs = AFK kills (with magma head/feet)
Divine head/feet = For Active, DR (with magma chest/legs)
So I guess in most cases:
SB gmush will be wearing divine chest/legs.
Bubo Magma
DK/ES mostly divine head/feet

[manic moat]

lol ty w5 bot

[jade zenith]

what is DR and CDR?

[pulsar cliff]

Drop Rate and Cool Down Reduction probably

[dapper prism]

Luck and mana po boxes for dr and cdr

[worn current]

i feel like my sailing and gaming are kinda stagnating, any advice?

[jade zenith]

also what do you mean by 3-4 day grind? I just check it every day and do the boxes if I have the stuff

[dapper prism]

gaming happens, sailing should be fine overall? don't send all your boats to low islands going step by step. Always have 1 boat unlocking new islands, while your fastest boats are working on the higher islands, and slowest ones on low stuff

[little harbor]

am i going to lose at this point? damage is slow, but seems like i have a solid stream of shields so cant lose, right?

[manic moat]

Well, I've gone over the 50M kills mark and still no recipe...Here's to another 50M

[dapper prism]

You grind Pens which let you reset the order, allowing you to do a ton of PO boxes b2b

[wind umbra]

Did I lock myself out of a divine trophy by taking the quest with divine scarf already equipped?

[pulsar cliff]

fwiw that includes multikill and drop rate isn't affected b that so not like. insane yet.

[dapper prism]

Why would it lock you out?

[pulsar cliff]

no you're good

[dapper prism]

its a 2 step quest, equip scarf, and get a cape as a drop

[wind umbra]

it doesnt recognize that i have scarf equipped

[dapper prism]

Cant unequip scarf and reaccept the quest?

[wind umbra]

ooo didnt try that

lemme try that

[dapper prism]

MK doesnt count for drops, another perspective would be to track those rarer slugma drops and average would be having ~1k of them if u didnt spend any yet on stamps

[wind umbra]

that worked thanks

[manic moat]

643

[dapper prism]

Yeh so 2/3'ds done (for average drop chance)

[manic moat]

just a few spent on stamps maybe, only level 8

[pine pond]

Reloading map works to fix this

[wind umbra]

i tried that it didnt seem to work

i tried cloudsaving without the scarf equipped and reloading and equipping the scarf and it didnt work

[dapper prism]

Easiest is always cancelling a quest the getting it again

Also good thing to do is get the quest on everyone and move the scarf around, then only have to worry about cape drops

[wind umbra]

yeah i didnt think of that

yea i thought i did that but it seemed i had missed a char

so when i accepted i already had a scarf equipped on him

[sinful mason]

Trying to get the 10 nightmare kruck kills but i cant seem to do it on my vman anyone got any tips?

[worn current]

ik it's tier is low, but idrk how stats work for captains, should i keep this guy for a while?

[dapper prism]

Decent for now, all of that stuff is also situational at what point you are in sailing and how everything else is

stats are Base stat multiplied by captain level. so since its lvl 11 captain, he has 20% arti chance on both slots

[frigid acorn]

just moving around kill moles and try to pinc the boss till death

[worn current]

ahh i see, are you looking at my idle eff from last week?

[gray pagoda]

Can I claim the shimmer rewards more than once if I kill more giants? For example, if I were to claim it right now, and then summon more giants, would I be able to claim the new reward, or is it locked until next week?

[dapper prism]

Nope

[dapper prism]

No, its a 1 time claim per week

[fast moon]

I just got to world 5 and got the maoi head from sailing, do i no longer need shrine world tour active in the lab anymore because of it?

[dapper prism]

You do need them both, they work differently, read them both again 😄

[gray pagoda]

Alright, thanks. I'll be sure to get my giant spawn chance as high as possible before I claim it.

[frigid acorn]

to level them still have to sit at the same map/world

[lament jasper]

Decent gamba for once

[jade zenith]

https://jack_2.idleonefficiency.com/
what should I be prioritizing?
unlocking elephant? something else?

[dapper prism]

2 seconds on your IE and.. too much stuff already

But slowly going for Tiger never hurts

You should go through your own IE page by page and clean everything up., Like using books, those stamps, anvil points etc.

[fast grail]

To be fair, its a better IE than most we have seen recently

[fast grail]

Good basic thing to follow:

#1087257720043876372 message

[lament jasper]

tf

[dapper prism]

Because of vial, a lab node not active

[lament jasper]

Ooooooooh true true

[frigid acorn]

tbh connect to goat when you want to stay altar and lab at same time

[dapper prism]

Not a single one on goat o.o

[pine pond]

But just get doot

All problems solved

[frigid acorn]

and get better trap bro

[dapper prism]

rip vman worship

[fast grail]

My god, those traps, you have such a high enough level to equip the good traps

[frigid acorn]

and vman talents fix please

[pine pond]

Vman worship kinda not worth it end game ngl

Early on its great for the bonus exp

[crisp silo]

but extra souls

[fast grail]

later the extra souls are almost nothing

[pine pond]

???? I meant his worship level being higher

[crisp silo]

oohhhh

[dapper prism]

It's not hard at all to keep vman rank 1 though, so no real reason not to imo. Especially when still needing 1b vials 🤷

[pine pond]

By end game, I meant all of those done

Not a point to it afterwords

[dapper prism]

well that's like.. finished game xD

[pine pond]

Lmao

[dapper prism]

Either way, it's ezaf to keep vman rank 1

what if we get new souls?

and stuff like that

[pine pond]

And the bonus worship eff, is low

Like I get 28k extra green souls for having vman higher

Woo?

[dapper prism]

per click? sounds nice xD

[pine pond]

I get 6.8m green souls per click

[frigid acorn]

and get that all w5 bubble done pls

[pine pond]

I don't need anymore

[dapper prism]

Yeh, but still cant compare someone who finished all of 1 content, vs 99% of the other players

[fast grail]

Hourly click bubbles that need souls

[pine pond]

XD

[pine pond]

Not worth to me atm or really anyone until everything is above 90%

Then yeah go for it for the 0.00001% increase per click

[tight ridge]

does drop rate affect event mobs

[pine pond]

Yes

Card snap card drop rate

Into drop rate

[dapper prism]

Orb may too, either way no reason not to use orb

[tight ridge]

do i spawn them at bloodbones with dk?

[pine pond]

I got 5 star blueberry in 100 oysters

[pine pond]

Anywhere works tbh

[dapper prism]

I would at bloodbones, or citringe, not sure who gets better orb stack

[lament jasper]

Does someone knows how DR works ? it's so confusing, how am i getting 20+ keys on slush when i only kill him once ?

[pine pond]

Higher drop rate= bigger gains

That's all I need to know

[lament jasper]

Yeah but what about rare drops ? like how does that works exactly

does it rolls the loot table multiple times? does rare items get lower drop rate ? both ?

[dapper prism]

What's your DR?

[lament jasper]

rn 7.75

Does it works with base drops too ?

so many questions

[dapper prism]

there's a great (yet boring) 20min youtube vid that explains DR in full detail xD

[fast grail]

Yes, only doesnt work when sampling

[lament jasper]

i'll watch it i need to know

[worn current]

i've got abt 600+ of the letters from the valentines event, should I spawn them in kruk with dk orb to increase chance of scarf or does that not work

[rugged thistle]

anyone else get random freeze frames and control input stick when playign this?

anyway to fix it?

[fast grail]

Only can minimize, best way is to go into a mining zone in a low pop world

[rugged thistle]

how do i load it in mining zone?

[lament jasper]

okaaay i get it now about ddrop rate

[rugged thistle]

nvm i noticed it in quick menu

[dapper prism]

quick ref

[dapper prism]

even that felt like minimal difference to me tbh

[fast grail]

Minimal, but still better than nothing. Fuck gaming tho

[rugged thistle]

i was 1 score away from beating my 8k record and game froze input stuck right and missed ball T.T

its really annoying

[zealous niche]

What’s the effect that causes multiple drops?

[lament jasper]

If i understood correctly if u get too much DR it will roll the garanteed loots multiple times

like 1/2 chance on 4 DR will roll 2 times garanteed and one 1/2

[zealous niche]

Ah, so 2x guaranteed drop rate = 2 drops?

[lament jasper]

If i understood correctly it works like that yeah

Theres other things like rounding up if your drop rate matches a certain point and things but yeah

[worn current]

last question before i piece out, why sb on gmush instead of dk or es

[lament jasper]

i think it gives more kph when dk es are just useful active

[tight ridge]

are the event stones good

40 shells got me all the cards lol dk op

[lament jasper]

if ur w5 already meh

[rugged thistle]

can i stack up DK orb then enter boss arena and kill for the bonus lot chance?

[dapper prism]

Probably could since orb stacks +1 when u killed the boss. but not worth it as you'd lose out on massive bonuses from event stuff that cant be grinded.. for a boss that is easily grinded xD

[twilit goblet]

does this only affect atom collider upgrade cost for the different upgrades like boron helium etc?

[dapper prism]

I'm confused what else it would be for?

[lapis mesa]

is this atom as strong as i thnk it looks?

[dapper prism]

Nope, idk how good it is on mining, but when i tried comparing it for woodcutting i was told it doesnt work for that for some reason 🤷

[full cobalt]

what event card am i missing?

[dapper prism]

def from xmas

[lapis mesa]

of course

[full cobalt]

rip

when is christmas again? september i hope? 🤣

[dapper prism]

Might be March? or January? any month could be christmas if you belive in it xD

[tight ridge]

i mean we did get the christmas card drop in the last event

[lapis mesa]

I feel stuck. when i was going world to world i could just goal that. right now i just.. idk

[tight ridge]

this is my second event in this game this what i got so far

[opaque sun]

It adds some for mining. Also affects catching, but not like super amazing since its less reliant on efficiency. As mentioned, its bugged to not count green leaves for chopping for some reason

[lapis mesa]

ty

[full cobalt]

Thanks, is your name a futurama reference? LOL

[crisp silo]

what it dosent count leaves

[opaque sun]

And since its “power of 10 resources” it does not affect other power of 10 kill stuff

[crisp silo]

bruh

[patent hatch]

where do i go to fight plasti dougs and blueberrys?

[exotic juniper]

finally got to fighting crawlers. only 10,000,000 more kills to wurms 🥲

[heavy moth]

HAHAHAHA it is indeed

[full cobalt]

plus percy jackson i assume

[dapper prism]

Get div up, sailing arifacts, backtrack old content and quests, like all daily keys. Focus on Dmg for rift 31+, more artifacts. Also work on better samples/atoms, along with BB getting chow/zow with enough dmg superchow. Then Eclipsing w1 some day. Get gmush kills to a few billion for good gold.

May have missed 100 things but this may help xD

[full cobalt]

you liking the new season?

[heavy moth]

yea watch the first 3rd episode like it so far

[heavy moth]

mixed with my dog<s name aahah zeus

[full cobalt]

ahh nice

it's not as good as i hoped for, but revivals never are

could be way worse lol

[heavy moth]

yea could ve been way worse haah

[lapis mesa]

yeah i need to get div up. im not really pushing w5 because my kill counts are so low. everyone gets daily keys, but i guess i could just go try and get the trophies, my samples are printing stuff to hopefully upgrade my samples. i have almost all ancient artifacts up to fury, so ive made progress, i just feel like i log on, cycle the same set of things and move on. Thanks for replying though, i do appreciate it

[surreal oxide]

whats the easiest class for frogger dungeon farming?

[full cobalt]

i like jman

or vman now i guess

[twilit goblet]

was hoping it would reduce my bubble atoms cost haha

the oyster doesnt spawn this and the other catching exp one right? so just from oyster drops

[molten flax]

Is this event just opening the boxes?

[manic moat]

most events are like that

free stuff

[molten flax]

So you can stack DK Orb and open them for bonus loot?

[manic moat]

not open, but opening the shells unload a bunch of mobs, killing those will help with extra drops

[molten flax]

Oh gotcha so you get the shell from the Summer Cooler and that spawns mobs that drop cards

[manic moat]

mr blueberry and Plasti Doug

blueberry is great for drop rate, important one to get

[modern plaza]

yeah if you focus on making the most atoms possible, everything will follow tbh

[languid thistle]

Is it possible to Superchow the Bandit Bob map?

AKA can you AFK Fighting on that map?

[twin token]

U can't afk there bc it'll automatically start catching butterflies

[placid mural]

Does it not affect the orb/portal/flag kills?

[zealous niche]

This wasn’t answered properly

It’s for forge progress

[buoyant heron]

my giant mob spawn rate is 1/6.54k, up from 1/44 at the start of the week, with the giant mob big bubble equipped, so i must have killed many giant mobs, but the shimmer trial says ive only killed 9 this week, so some must not be getting counted. Any ideas as to why this might be?

My best guess is that giant mobs killed while dead and waiting to respawn arent counted, since i started this week reset with a cranium cook session, where my bubo died but i just let him auto poison while lying dead on the floor

[viral snow]

9 sounds about right tho

[buoyant heron]

yeah i just googled it, 1/6.54k is 9 mobs if i miss the 50% chance for the odds to not increase from the big bubble all 9 times, which is unlucky to happen on the week with giant mobs as a shimmer trial but whatever

[sharp wind]

Eh how people getting 1k cooler?

[fast grail]

Saved from the very first summer event

[buoyant heron]

wait why do you need 1k

[sharp wind]

Ahh thats why

[viral snow]

You only need 500

For the nametag

[narrow sable]

is cooler drop rate significantly lower than the last event thing drop rate

[zealous niche]

Why would you save them..

[zealous niche]

Doesn’t seem to be

[dapper prism]

Question for the Treasure hunts do i ||have to use specific classes for specific parts?||

[zealous niche]

||Need an archer for second treasure hunt iirc||

[little harbor]

guess i won

[dapper prism]

||3rd, but yeh, so if i did nearly every part on shaman, i have to redo it on archer for the woodcut with the archer top part, since i cant continue where i left off on shaman|| ?

[zealous niche]

I did the same but with vman

[narrow sable]

had like 10 drop in 5 minutes after dis was just unlucky af 😭

[lavish quiver]

I did that said forget it came back a month or two and did it again

[dapper prism]

Speaking of vman, since its an account wide quest, it's irrelevant who does it right? (everyone gets the luck from star talent progress?)

[dapper prism]

Rofl

Wish the vid would say it at the start -,-

[zealous niche]

Don't know, so just did it on vman as habit

same as this event, about to do it on vman just in case

[craggy marten]

What do I have to do to complete treasure hunt 1

?

[zealous niche]

Look at the video on lava's channel

[craggy marten]

I dont understand the video

[zealous niche]

Do we know how many cards you need to get ruby event cards?

[zealous niche]

Anything specific? The video gives you step-by-step instructions already

[dapper prism]

After TH3, are there any other class specific things for th4 or 5? xD

Damn.. i really gotta candy some of these crap afk constellations
https://i.imgur.com/XVoGlXI.png

[zealous niche]

Oh, there is a trick to finishing the coconut step potentially

[dapper prism]

Mhm?

[zealous niche]

Need to kill the four down the bottom, and if that's already given you the 4 coconut drops, then filter coconut drops

Also, do we know if the orb trick works on the summer coolers too?

Want to make sure the event cards don't continue to evade me

[dapper prism]

ah great, ill try that

[zealous niche]

You're not allowed to pick up or drop the item to get the exact number, but if they're filtered they count as not having dropped

[dapper prism]

Guess else this step would be impossible

[zealous niche]

yeah

[dapper prism]

(once u get enough DR kinda thing)

[zealous niche]

it's a sign that we delayed doing it for waaaayyyy too long

[vocal ibex]

for the cogtomizer im going to put as. whas the best ercentage for xp and building rate? characters aree around 160-21

210

[dapper prism]

Cogtimizer only does so much, but barely seems to do stuff properly if you have gem cogs

Wanna magimize XP throughout everything

[vocal ibex]

whast a gem cog

m go google it

[zealous niche]

The cogs you get from the gem shop

[vocal ibex]

oh yeah i have those

[dapper prism]

4 or 8?

[vocal ibex]

all the ones they sold

so probably 8

yeah just checked 6 on set 2 sitting on page 1

[dapper prism]

Basically this is what you want:
https://i.imgur.com/opmjKx6.png

This is mine:
https://i.imgur.com/NRZU8M9.png

(Still missing some directionals)

But all you do is maximize xp to the 2 squires there

[vocal ibex]

let me go do it real quick ill show u what it would look like

it doesnt give that option

let me double check

[fallen flax]

How far should I level midas prayer? to max?

[dapper prism]

Yeh you can max it afaik, since you use it on the stuff you 1 shot later on

[fallen flax]

Okay, awesome. Charge got maxed out and I need somewhere to dump some souls that'll help, lol

[dapper prism]

I changed the above image slightly.

Yellow area are just the "filler cogs" throughout, anything else is directional cog, preferably maxed on XP, but if you dont have it then BR directional works.

The filler cogs you just focus on the highest XP % you can

There's really not "much more" to it tbh

[vocal ibex]

so the other 8 are on cogs

[dapper prism]

Also yes you will lose BR intiially when setting it up, but that'll all come back through alch bubble carpenter by the extra levels you gain faster

[vocal ibex]

i imagine im just trash decent yellow cogs

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/86I82PY.png

You still get some "decent" yellow/red cogs

[vocal ibex]

do i trash the m?

them

[dapper prism]

Well yeh, if you dont need it you trash them, no point in keeping them..

[zealous niche]

If it's the lowest xp cog and not giving a good directional exp bonus, trash it

Directional exp > cog exp, if neither are better than what's on your board kill it

if it's better, replace the inferior cog, then kill the inferior cog

[raven fog]

I farm statues in beans ir giga frogs

[dapper prism]

If you see my image, i had organized the right side at once point from top to bottom having best xp% at the top, lowest at the bottom, so it was easy to replace the worst cog each time. Now it's a bit messy that i got halfways through xD

=============================
Anyone know how long this achievement would take per pet?
Like, How many heart-pets would take how long for 7 ❤️?
https://i.imgur.com/GN8P5oY.png

[raven fog]

I head some say year+

[foggy briar]

achievable?

[vocal ibex]

NO

[versed cypress]

after you pet reaches around breeding multi of 3.5x which is a bit over bredability level 3 the ammount skyrockets to what it needs the multi to be for the next tiers so you would need a full fenceyard of one pet and it will probably still take a few months per pet

[foggy briar]

💀

[versed cypress]

my highest breed multi is 4.7x and that is still just level 3 heart

[dapper prism]

So pretty much, unobtainable, good to know

especially for 15 of them

[versed cypress]

you basicaly need to max the breedability upgrade to max the gain speed and then just do nothing else for months on end

i think someone did mention a long time ago that tier 7 hear twas equivalent to a multi of close to 18x

[fast grail]

last i heard, achievement takes about 15,000 years

[versed cypress]

so while not unobtainable its what you put your breeding to do once yo are completely done with anything else

[fast grail]

with maxed everything

[dapper prism]

[versed cypress]

because honestly just letting the shiny levels pile up is better than tryign to get that archievement

[dapper prism]

Shiny is never done 😄

[fast grail]

Yeah dont even try for that achieve, just continue shinies

[dapper prism]

yup

[versed cypress]

isnt there a cap for shiny levels???

[fast grail]

lvl 20 is cap

GL reaching it rn tho

[versed cypress]

well considering level 6 takes 200 cumulative days i dont even want to think how muh lvl 20 will take

[raven fog]

Guys for obals i should do stat obals for all except one for dr and one for each skill right

[dapper prism]

Think that would make 19 to 20 be 3.2m days?

Since doesn't it double the days for each level. like to 5 was 100 days, to 6 was 200 etc.

[fast grail]

Still somehow less time than getting 15 pets to breedability 7

[versed cypress]

considering you get a few shiny speed upgrades and a full fenceyard gives a lot of days for the bonuses its better xDDD

[dapper prism]

You can do 2x DR, for DK + ES if lazy for switching, since they always kinda need DR.
I keep
BM on hunting ones, DK2 on Construction, ES2 on Worship
1 set of all sample skills in storage

Here are my Obols
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[versed cypress]

i guess level 10 for shinies is currently a good stopping point for all of them and just level up one or two

[raven fog]

Why the weird mix on b and sb

[dapper prism]

What's weird about it?

[fast grail]

Well, I am getting 3 clicks a day at least now. Was getting less than a click a day before w/o considering any procs or printer go brr

Actually was getting like 1/2 a click a day, so massive upgrade

[vocal ibex]

gene splicing for world 2 always do the most kill, so the sand monsters?

[fast grail]

Sand giant iirc yeah

[dapper prism]

Pretty much yeh

Also use 1-2h candies, since there's diminishing returns on splicing long times

[raven fog]

Like why there is one card drop chance

[vocal ibex]

im have all m,y characters sit there for a week finish all the world 2

want to get the speed pet thats towards the end

[dapper prism]

Pretty evidently because i dont have anything else for there right now until i go for more purple stats?

[raven fog]

I didnt assume that because ur late game

I thought u would be done by now

Lol

[dapper prism]

Only played for 5 months

[raven fog]

What

[dapper prism]

Yesterday was my 5 month mark

[vocal ibex]

he an effecient player

[fast grail]

What not being lazy can do for you

[dapper prism]

What not ignoring 90% of game mechanics does too

[fast grail]

I've been playing for like 2 years and hes pretty much caught up to me. Although every world introduced makes mechanics faster and faster an previous progress becomes invalidated.

[zealous niche]

I've been playing since release in 2020 and Trickz has been good to bounce ideas off

[dapper prism]

But yeh, I like to min max, learn and ask questions, was already in the discord on day 1. Any time before i even hit a new world i would ask what are things to focus on etc.

[vocal ibex]

if i was a woman id marry him too

[zealous niche]

You could marry anyway

[dapper prism]

Idk if my wife would approve

[vocal ibex]

if

[zealous niche]

Well, she obviously thinks you're marriage material

so that's a start

[dapper prism]

To be fair, having doot without actually "going for it or hoping i'd get it" did help a bunch, freeing up all alts, easier to eclipse and all that kinda stuff

@fast grail you dont have doot, right?

[fast grail]

Nah, I got doot like 10 days ago

[dapper prism]

Oh wow very nice!

[fast grail]

Got it the same day after my most recent mining sample x_x

[dapper prism]

lol, before or after?

[fast grail]

after

[dapper prism]

Rippp

[fast grail]

cba to re-sample

[dapper prism]

understandable

[fast grail]

only thing i would want to upgrade is void sample

[dapper prism]

When i sample i try and do 9/10 chars, and then vman like a day later or so

[fast grail]

for more clicks on servapurple

I cannot mentally handle that shit, 3 is my max

[dapper prism]

I've gotten inefficient and lazy, i barely do any clicks

Most times its just str/agi since it's oak/copper

[raven fog]

Sand pots os sneilbes for crystal

Farming

[dapper prism]

Technically snelbie is better, but pots you get some glass along the way. You also want the snelbie cards though

[raven fog]

On free roll impressive

[raven fog]

For the stamp right

What else are they good for

[dapper prism]

That's it

[raven fog]

Nah i would like to focus on status and obals

[dapper prism]

I should also really get some statues

[fast grail]

It is pain

Hourly clicks are even worse with doot, since you have to claim all chars every hour

[dapper prism]

I can see that xD
Like.. I love to min max, be efficient with some things, but small things like that would probably burn me out. Doubt i'll get into clicks

I had my 3D prints setup for it but changed it all back to oak/copper for atoms, just because my "hourly clicks" was not even daily

[pearl cedar]

It gets overwhelming, I'm hoping one day Lava figures out a good solution for hourly clicks

[dapper prism]

"auto invest" xD

[fast grail]

That really is the only option though

[dapper prism]

On a very off topic note.. damn these poop tools are OP af with stats..
+12 WIS gaining me like 40b dmg?!

Is base wis really that damn strong? xD

[fast grail]

And it sucks, because not doing it right now is getting further and further behind others

[pearl cedar]

Base stat strong which is why people hourly click

[dapper prism]

Thought bubble 1 isn't base but total?

[fast grail]

I wonder if raw wis or %all stats is better . . .hmmm

[untold saffron]

Level up all those shiny pets👀

[dapper prism]

2 more days than all DR are done, then moving on to stats

[foggy apex]

what i do?

[fast grail]

Having an urge to make a random budget opal, wish me luck it doesnt take too many

Although too bad I dont have bribes yet

[dapper prism]

Use the guide, follow it:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[raven fog]

Guys i got some obals but they r not registering in the slab why

[crisp silo]

Uhh try equipping them and checking

[unreal fox]

i need loot and speed @@!

[crisp silo]

Not bad!

Just wrong stat

[ancient quail]

are the summer stones useful for something? they seem like crap

[bright current]

+3 slab

[zealous niche]

Green stack them!

[ancient quail]

lol

[zealous niche]

[fast grail]

Of course! They are BIS for Def

[ancient quail]

i might get them greenstacked before i get doot though

[opaque sun]

Used to be bis for def, sadly we got other new stones

And def isnt bad for min maxing the shimmer def trial

[dapper prism]

Speaking of shimmer, mine is max str, what are some things to think about?
Go on DK, use str buff, and str cards? (all stat gear etc)

[fast grail]

Only 330k def to max def trial

[dapper prism]

"only"

[fast grail]

Sounds like an FMJ issue

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/dL5Qwcs.png
Time to Atom FMJ? xD

[fast grail]

Join Me, I dont want to be the only person in the Def boat, if it sinks, want others to be with me