lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[fathom lagoon]

The 11% will also scale w captains lvl

[green eagle]

chem is last plant, the .3% chance will stay there forever

[upper osprey]

Just found out all the ore cards got turned to passive, what's a good mining deck for samples look like now? The Skilling boss cards and strength/all stat?

[dreamy spruce]

also skill afk gain from trapping card

[sacred monolith]

two afk cards, boots food percentage, main stat, skill exp if you need

[upper osprey]

That's weird, but these samples are about to make my old ones look baby sized

[untold saffron]

choco box card if you have it

[upper osprey]

Which card is the food card?

[sacred monolith]

choco box

[upper osprey]

I have it and mamooth

[dreamy spruce]

rift 16 gives skill mastery, once you reach 300 mining level across all chars (combined) you get them passive

[unborn hearth]

i see, thx but i cant help but feel it wouldve been better to just say 0%

[upper osprey]

I must be rift 16 ig

I have amorak, troll, chocco, loveulyte, and mamooth

[untold saffron]

bunny

[upper osprey]

What best 3 be if exp doesn't matter

Now bunny

All 4 star, except for troll, he's 5

[sacred monolith]

Troll skill effciency is a must as well

[untold saffron]

C chi and tremor wurm

[upper osprey]

I have it 5*

C chiz is passive

[untold saffron]

NM sorry

[upper osprey]

Maybe seekers or octodars for last?

[sacred monolith]

Yeah strength cards are good

[placid mural]

Anyone else think the omni procs for breeding should affect shiny level progress?

[upper osprey]

Bett, thank you for the help, seeing the little (P) confused me so bad lol

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/568269042f11815491bb728a92d8904b.png

[untold saffron]

that'd be broken

[sacred monolith]

Looks solid

[placid mural]

So many of the bonuses are so small to begin with, though.

I don't actually think it would be that broken

[digital sand]

Do boss drops roll multiple times per kill or is it just one chance?

[fathom lagoon]

Would be sick if Omni could proc for alch

Or construction time that would be nice actually

[placid mural]

We already have c c for alc

[signal osprey]

We want less things on omni not more

[fathom lagoon]

Lmao why you say that?

[placid mural]

I totally agree, Construction should replace cooking for the omni options

[signal osprey]

3d printer and refinery are the only things worth hitting

Adding more stuff means you get less of those

[fathom lagoon]

True, I enjoy the sailing hits for now since I’m still looking for fury lol

[hidden sphinx]

Sailing is nice for a while

[signal osprey]

Thats what gold food is for

[fathom lagoon]

My fav is proccing 3D printer & sailing from golden hamp

[hidden sphinx]

Especially as I haven’t got the 100% from big bubble and food

[heavy moth]

would be nice to be able to filter the proc possible

[fathom lagoon]

Too ez lol

[hidden sphinx]

Double proc sailing is a bit annoying tho

[sacred monolith]

Anyone heard opinions about using kattlekruck upgrade stones vs. W5 ones?

[fathom lagoon]

May rnjesus be with you

[runic girder]

This is normal right for eldritch fury, so if i got all my boats at minimum speed theres no harm in going for this

[placid mural]

High risk high reward

[hidden sphinx]

Pretty sure there’s no point using the kattlekruk ones unless you can mass craft the items

[heavy moth]

but still have odd like minimum 4 choice or 3 choice cause im done with sailing and breeding such a waste of proc

[sacred monolith]

Well sure, but I didn't know if someone had worked the math to see if there was a significant statistical edge

[runic girder]

People have 100%??

[placid mural]

I think statistically you end up with lower stats

[signal osprey]

Crafting tools with kruk stones is fairly reasonable but armor is rough

[upper osprey]

Um, what foods for the big mining sample should I go for? I have all health pots, all event food, ironbites, 200 golden peanuts(could make more), and 1000 golden grilled cheese?

[hidden sphinx]

I’m pretty sure the food and bubble combined can get you to 100% I’d acc have to check tho

[signal osprey]

Assuming you're willing to farm pearlers to keep making more tool when you get a bad roll

[hidden sphinx]

Weapons is a terrible idea

[runic girder]

Stats x odds/100 x slots = expected value

[upper osprey]

And 2500 golden jam

[signal osprey]

But rolling a 5/5 or a 5/6 with kruk stones is better than a 6/6 with W5 stones for tools

[runic girder]

Im on like 30% lol

How much from that is hampter and how much is bubble

[sacred monolith]

I don't want to do the math. I want someone else to do all the work for me

[hidden sphinx]

Bubble pretty much caps at 15% acc

[signal osprey]

You can get 100% from hampter alone

[hidden sphinx]

How many years of farming for golden hampters and carry capacity is that though

3k hampters is 26%

[signal osprey]

Depends on gold food effect %

[hidden sphinx]

Oh yeah forgot about that

[runic girder]

Need 4000000000000 hampters for 100%

[signal osprey]

I have warriors at 100% with less than 100k

[runic girder]

I forgot this existed

[hidden sphinx]

Sheee

[signal osprey]

Gold food effect is a good stat

[hidden sphinx]

That’s true

[runic girder]

How much is it at max level?

[hidden sphinx]

Gold food is giving me a huge boost to dmg

[runic girder]

Nvm gold food affect is a stamp

[hidden sphinx]

Don’t forget the stamp as well

[runic girder]

The skill is warrior only right

[lunar oar]

Only place to farm Skilling obols is alchemy shop?

[runic girder]

Because star talent is regular food

[runic girder]

W1-2 skills yes

W3 skill obols are monster drops

[placid mural]

You can also get +80% gold food effect from sigil

[signal osprey]

Theres also a bubble and the sigil for gold food

My sigil will be done soon and then I can use even less hampters for 100%

[runic girder]

So the whats the 'effective boost amount'

Like hampter bonus x all gold food bonus = 100%

[placid mural]

Yeah and another 70-79% gold food effect from the bubble contract is taking about

[runic girder]

Cause 100k hampters give only give ~20% as base

So youd need like a 5x multilpier from boostd

[signal osprey]

You can probably get around that much i would assume

[runic girder]

And idk how viable 100k hampters are lol

[placid mural]

Very

[signal osprey]

Time to move all my hampters to 1 character and see what happens

[upper osprey]

After resample (first in like 8 months) I went from 1.6 mil to 22 mil) appreciate the help

[placid mural]

Once you start active farming worms 24/7 they flow like water

[placid mural]

I have like 20-30k on each character

And I'm relatively newer to thw game

[upper osprey]

What's max sample rate?

[runic girder]

90%

[upper osprey]

Bet, I'm there

Ty

[runic girder]

This is normal odds for eldritch fury right? So if i got all my boats reach the island in minimum speed im not hurting my progress in any way

[signal osprey]

[dreamy spruce]

damn

[runic girder]

Warrior?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[thin kernel]

omg YEEEESSS.. snail is now lvl 10 😄 was soo "lucky" first time. i try to upgrate it from 9 to 10.. it fails and then reset back to lvl 5. ( thanks god for the new atom)

[runic girder]

Still crazy 5.6x multiplier

[stray valve]

lmao

[untold saffron]

I've heard it can reset from 10 to 5

even with atom level 2

[quiet pewter]

@untold saffron this came up yesterday, i dont think its true. there is a specfic senario where if yo buy upgrade 2, then rely on it without saving first it might not work, but in general your level is protected at the floor once you reach that floor

[untold saffron]

ah okay

they said it could go like 12 to 10 to 5 to 0 if you kept failing and were unlucky for instance

forget who

[foggy briar]

so, construction and alchemy only get talent bonuses when opening the menu from chars with that talent, any other skills affected by that?

[quiet pewter]

ironaically when this came up yesterday YOU were said to be the source of saying this XD

[untold saffron]

interesting, no

[foggy briar]

Breeding gets bonuses from hunter anyway right? gaming too?

[untold saffron]

my snail is level 10 and I'll be trying to upgrade it tomorrow though

so we may see

[tacit tulip]

I'm not touching my snail until I have the second atom upgrade lol, it's 10, too

[quiet pewter]

you'll be fine

its amazing how hard it is to stop a rumour once it starts #snailGate

[tacit tulip]

Monster hunter got hit by that recently, a rumour everyone had heard that turned out to be untrue lol

[quiet pewter]

i heard that sakori is lavas alt account, its how he knows so much about the game

[tacit tulip]

:[

No I'm just a nerd

[fathom lagoon]

Wow got tentacleye to 203 and aura to 200

Holy shit this is so fun

[tacit tulip]

Welcome to silly alchemy town

Remember to pick up your stinger gloves at the door

[fathom lagoon]

Bro I can’t stop laughing

[quiet pewter]

excuse me sir, your entire screen seems to be on fire

[fathom lagoon]

Raise the dead goes from 37 second cooldown instantly to 1

[fathom lagoon]

I had read about that, putting on gloves w bubo

[quiet pewter]

arnt gloves beginer only

[tacit tulip]

the later ones are

stinger is the strongest glove a non-beginner can equip

[fathom lagoon]

And my week reset so giants are spawning out the ass

[tacit tulip]

The idea behind the gloves is it forces you to approach the monsters. This has 2 effects:

1. Helps spread the aura about further, as you run to the edges of the map
2. You pick up floor items better, causing less lag

[fathom lagoon]

Will my dmg suffer a good bit? I’m at about 100m max dmg rn

[tacit tulip]

It'll definitely drop, but weapon power is quite poor for damage calculations

it's more a thing once you're strong

[dreamy spruce]

How do I best reset this?

[quiet pewter]

click pen, click shield

[gloomy whale]

So king doot pet links all divinity gods right? Does that include God's you have not yet unlocked?

For instance, I have not yet unlocked goat god for the lab+divinity link. Do I get divinity exp in lab with king doot? Or do I need to unlock the goat first?

[fathom lagoon]

I think you pen and hit the shield

[tacit tulip]

make sure you have an order to hand in, but don't

then use a pen on the shield

the next day your streak will reset

[dreamy spruce]

All right, thanks!

[fathom lagoon]

As long as your chars have div lvl 2 they get all god effects, major and minor

[tacit tulip]

if you finish the order you'll get a new one the next day and it won't immediately reset

[fathom lagoon]

They won’t get the div blessing unless you unlock that god

So yeah even without goat you can lab & get div xp/points

[tacit tulip]

worth noting that the div blessing starts at level 0 and you have to manually level it, which is why you don't get it haha

[gloomy whale]

Awesome, thanks for the clarification

[quiet pewter]

yw

[foggy briar]

What you get for reseting it?

[quiet pewter]

cheaper orders is only reason

late gamers dont care, but earlier it might matter

[foggy briar]

They scale forever?

damn

[signal osprey]

No they stop scaling in cost at 100

[quiet pewter]

ah they do? i thought that got changed fixed? or they just fixed the bit where it scaled backwards?

[signal osprey]

Not sure if/when it was changed at some point but they definitely stop at 100 now

[quiet pewter]

ah ok, mb. thanks for clarifying

[empty berry]

is there a card set for active material farm?

[quiet pewter]

DR (with some mk thrown in if you have room, and a little dmg if you are real near a threshold... but mostly DR)

im assuming your on ES

[fathom lagoon]

Bubo at citringes is endless dopamine

[languid jacinth]

hey question, what speed do you guys think i should be getting the boats to before moving to the next island for farming sailing stuff?

[dreamy spruce]

so much that they travel there in mininum travel time

[nova heath]

what is this item

[languid jacinth]

what speed do you need for min travel time for the final island?

[dreamy spruce]

anvil production

[languid jacinth]

second to last anvil production currently

tangled cords

[nova heath]

aww

[lavish quiver]

50m with no time reduction accounted for

[noble mesa]

I think 50m~

[languid jacinth]

yeesh

[quiet pewter]

what size of oak print do i need to feel a sense of accomplishment in life

[echo crag]

∞ /hour *6

[quiet pewter]

i hope h = 0

[green eagle]

kruk stones or nah? lol

[pulsar condor]

is this good?

[quiet pewter]

why would you use unreliable stones on an item you can only ever get 10 of?

[quiet pewter]

yeah

[twin token]

U could use Kruk stones on some of them and then swap

Just to make sure u don't waste the rings

[quiet pewter]

if your going to bother with the stons at all, recomend you do it on something you can make 100s of

[twin token]

What's wrong with doing it on some tho?

[pulsar condor]

.1% rolling for chem is now very painful

[elfin idol]

What Boost level were you guys when you unlocked the last bubbles

[twin token]

Like use w5 stones on 4 or so and kruk the other 6

[quiet pewter]

its a limited item, kruks stones will probably waste it. im not sure how to explain further than that

[quiet pewter]

130 ish

[twin token]

Ik it's limited but you only need 2 to get the effect on all charachters bc u can swap the rings

[quiet pewter]

that seems like a pain

[twin token]

Wouldn't you have to swap regardless?

Since there's only 10 you can only equip 2 rings on 5 chars

[quiet pewter]

go for it if you like, but wasting a decent limited item doesnt seem like something id recomend

[tall horizon]

Hope you used misc stones on the base stopwatch to try for higher afk %

[pulsar condor]

chem rolling can kiss my ass

[pulsar heart]

kruk sparkles or skilling power sparkles for sampling

[mint remnant]

damn only 350mil suggma kills for the recipe i thought itd take longer

[green eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-gambling-gamble-gambler-gambling-addiction-gif-25801242

[frail mauve]

https://renbrian.idleonefficiency.com/
Currently missing damage, what should i do to get more (i know alc but which bubbles?"

[green eagle]

i thought he patched that out? D:

[sharp ruin]

What kind of dmg do you need on vman to beat nightmare kruk?

[errant stratus]

for Mantra style in Divinity does the distrubuted exp affect character not doing div at that time?

[sharp ruin]

Yes

[errant stratus]

heck yeah! tyvm!

[quiet pewter]

will be painful at much below 50b, will be trivial at 200b (you can out dmg his healing)

[dapper prism]

but keep in mind it does not get affected by double xp claim, and since you care about god unlocks, in most cases mantra isn't good at all early on.

[quiet pewter]

ouch

[errant stratus]

got doot pet

so not worried about speed unlocking gods atm

[dapper prism]

That's fine, but you'd still want to unlock tiger for the minor

[errant stratus]

doot pet gives all majors and minors

[dapper prism]

Nope

[errant stratus]

minors still scale on div lvl

[dapper prism]

Not Tiger

[errant stratus]

and passives are only from obtained gods

[dapper prism]

And again, you need Tiger for it's minor to work, the double Div XP and points. It's the only exception

[errant stratus]

when is tiger?

after goat>

[dapper prism]

Either its goat, omni then tiger or tiger then omni, but pretty sure its omni then tiger (forgot)

[dapper prism]

I posted a vid here at 88b dmg. Damage won't make it easier or harder for a while, it will only make it faster (until you manage to out dmg the heals)

But if 88b dmg took around 12min then 44b dmg would take like 24min of active.
Hope this helps

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[heavy moth]

this dude is so long to level XD

[thin kernel]

maybe he fix it? as my says reset back to lvl 10 if i fail.

[dapper prism]

That feels less safe, if you auto?
Also if on PC you can use WASD to move and R to auto attack the closest enemy

[quiet pewter]

mother fucker, this rumour again

snail works as intended

[thin kernel]

like the rest of the "code" XD

[dapper prism]

@untold saffron @thin kernel The info was false and confirmed due to something people miss.__ For ATOMS to count and work one has to Cloudsave.__
So if you do not cloudsave then it will make you fall down beneath the safepoint. So keep in mind and remember "atom upgraded, i must cloudsave)

[quiet pewter]

i mean other bits of the code are janky, but snail legit works how it should

[dapper prism]

Not fully a rumor but it is easy to oversee and not know about the cloudsave part, making the point kinda valid

[thin kernel]

well i "Saved" after. just to be sure that it work

shit the lvl 9 to 10... all damn bits now 😄

[quiet pewter]

yeah its not great i guess, but it is a niche circumstance. snail works in general

[dapper prism]

Yeh I did 2 atom cooking levels then used like 10k laddles

didnt realize the cloudsave part, so from what i heard yesterday, sounds like i "wasted" it xD

[bold quiver]

i just realized that the drop rate from goldshop isnt working properly '.'

cuz ive increased that by 1% and had no change on my DR

https://tenor.com/view/anime-umaru-cry-crying-tears-gif-5184314

[dapper prism]

https://tenor.com/view/it-crowd-hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-gif-8607749

[bold quiver]

all those balls that could have gone into critters

[hexed pine]

IM FINALLY HERE , NOW HOW I GET THIS KEY

[dapper prism]

Mobs from last 3 maps of w5. 3rd last 1/75k, 2nd last 1/50k, last map 1/25k drop chance

[hexed pine]

dawggg

do i gotta kill that 6mil monster for the quest

[warm beacon]

Bro you have 8 months to get the key

[hexed pine]

and yet it took me a month to kill 3mil spit fire thingies

at least i got time to catch up

[dapper prism]

Either you arn't playing daily or something, or you just ignored a ton of content throughout the game

[hexed pine]

nah

it's just been liek that for a while now

i left my account on afk for like 2 months or smt

back when i was a noob

but no problems

[sacred verge]

when is kattlekruck gear better and when is magma better?

[hexed pine]

ain't boss armour better

[dapper prism]

Afaik
Magma = Overall great, Plus for Money and skilling (+effy boots boots)
Divine chest and legs = AFK kills (with magma head/feet)
Divine head/feet = For Active, DR (with magma chest/legs)
So I guess in most cases:
SB gmush will be wearing divine chest/legs.
Bubo Magma
DK/ES mostly divine head/feet

Full Magma for Sampling

[quiet pewter]

helmet and shoes for DR, legs and torso for afk. magma marginally better for dmg and sampling, but not enough to matter much imo

[dapper prism]

Idk i definetely say keep magma for sampling

[lavish quiver]

1 month = 720 hours... 3mil kills/720hrs is roughly 4k kills per hour, seems low to be on that map. Need to look at past sources to help out

[hexed pine]

oh then it's not one month

i get like

7k kills per hour on the spitfire hting

[quiet pewter]

if you like, it should only be a couple percent diff

[lavish quiver]

You should have 100s of thousands before pushing w5

[sacred verge]

tyty

[hexed pine]

100s of thousands of ?

[dapper prism]

Couple a percent is decent amount. Even using Obols is only 1%, it all adds up

[lavish quiver]

Like at least afk kills should be in the 100k+

[quiet pewter]

i guess, but id say keeping second sets of armour for a couple percent is kinda min-max stuff

[dapper prism]

Not really, but definetely more than 7k at those high zones as that nearly sounds like "not havin lab or nobi on" let alone the actual max kph cap

[hexed pine]

ah

yea uh well

i didn't work on a lot of my bubbles back then in w3

soooo

yea

but hey at least im here now ain't it

[lavish quiver]

I never had less than 100k kph when pushing w5 seems like a waste of time without it

[dapper prism]

Pointless to be "up at boss" etc when one doesn't have any of the proper needs to even do anything there

[peak spruce]

how to increase that?

[hexed pine]

i actually have all those done it's just my alchemy

[dapper prism]

You will not be having 100k kph early w5.

[hexed pine]

i only got 6 mil dmg when i got to w5 bro

[lavish quiver]

Not these days with how fast you can get there

[hexed pine]

now i got almost 60 mil

still lacking

[heavy moth]

whats the highest movement speed atm

[dapper prism]

350

[sacred verge]

can go higher for SB dmg tho

[hexed pine]

thought there's no limit to movement speed

[sacred verge]

just wont make char move faster

[lavish quiver]

Only real purpose to push w5 is to get the skills going after that shouldnt focus on pushing until you have higher kph

[dapper prism]

Except bubo for CC 😄

[exotic juniper]

nice finally just got chemical plant

[hexed pine]

should start on working to get troll armour

[lavish quiver]

Bubo the floms in W4 until then lol

[heavy moth]

yea but for dmg on sb i ogt 588 but i feel its very little

[quiet pewter]

588 is pretty bad, i had more than that in w1

[heavy moth]

hahah how much you got 😮

[dapper prism]

you never specified, k, m, b

[quiet pewter]

my SB? around 150B

[heavy moth]

movement speed i mean

i got 6 trillion dmg

[dapper prism]

Omg today is my 5 month idle-versary 😮

[quiet pewter]

ohhh

[heavy moth]

AHAHHA 588 dmg rip

[quiet pewter]

i mean you kinda just stated a number without context

[tacit tulip]

588 character level

[quiet pewter]

nice dmg

[heavy moth]

context was a little higher in conversation for MS number attanable

[hexed pine]

idk how to count is that 4t

[heavy moth]

thanks 😛

[heavy moth]

its 6 T

[hexed pine]

ah sry i counted the lowest dmg u can do

[heavy moth]

oh then yes you right min is 4T

[hexed pine]

dam

[quiet pewter]

i think when you get to 10T the units sort themselves out

[hexed pine]

watch me get to 100mil in a month

(not confident)

[quiet pewter]

could prob do it in a week if you focus alchmy and sailing

[hexed pine]

yea just focusing on those both honestly

[dapper prism]

I havnt touched my dmg much in any way ever since i hit 1t +

[hexed pine]

bought like tons of boats and captains

[heavy moth]

yea and its a pretty color

[hexed pine]

woa

is that after u hit double digits t

[heavy moth]

yea

[hexed pine]

damn

it does looks pretty

[heavy moth]

and im not even end game some have hit the 100T

[hexed pine]

u mind checkin my ie and tell me wut im lackin

[quiet pewter]

i think some are in the Q, due to bubble 6 and spending an unhealthy amount of time on hourly clicks

[hexed pine]

never seen q yet honestly

highest one i've seen before is pazuzeus

who sent his dmg just now

[heavy moth]

ive seen some hitting in Q little on the dummy dps check

but having Q as dmg ive never seen tho it might exist haha

[heavy moth]

send link

[signal osprey]

Q damage has been achieved. It reads as 1000T

[hexed pine]

aight

[heavy moth]

like sapphire and zelb ?

[hexed pine]

ima dm u is that alright

i don't really wanna send it here

[quiet pewter]

imma review it, whether you link me or not. fix your alchemy @hexed pine

[signal osprey]

Its always alchemy

[hexed pine]

what how u even know wuts going on in my acc bro

[hexed pine]

fosho

[heavy moth]

alchemy is always the answer xD

[hexed pine]

u know wut

get judged or not

ima send it here

https://leoissed.idleonefficiency.com/

yall chill aight

[quiet pewter]

def not, but i admire your bravery

[hexed pine]

well i was warned

wuts that musical note thing for the last bubble btw

is it a bug

[heavy moth]

its one before last island in sailing

[hexed pine]

ouh i see

i wonder if critters is also one of my problems

i haven't even gotten a voodoo fish yet

[tawny jacinth]

So... for confirmations, I should pull the leaves/bonsai use sprinkler? Lvl 19 and cacti is my furthest mutation if thats relavant info

[hexed pine]

for a sec i thought u was gonna type a long paragraph

[sacred verge]

any1 wanto review my IE aswell? lol

[tawny jacinth]

Nah I'm too scrub to judge w5 ie's I stick to seal clubbing in the w3/4 channel

[hexed pine]

aight aight

[tawny jacinth]

And just to confirm I got the strat down, clicking the lower lvl cacti wouldn't be a bad option since its not a good location for cacti?

[heavy moth]

definetly need some love on alchemy 😛

[smoky sage]

I think you want to pick the cacti before sprinkler, otherwise some sprinkler slots will be wasted

[hexed pine]

i don't get it but i just collect them all sprinkle them then collect again then just upgrade anything i think is good

[hexed pine]

how high u think some of the bubbles should be at

[tawny jacinth]

1 slot of sprinkler vs lvl 3 cacti?

[hexed pine]

let's say the second one

[hexed pine]

honestly i don't know

the way i did it

sprinkle the plants

and collect it all

then sprinkle again if i got the chance

[neat nimbus]

hey how is vman speedrunn works i done 1 bc i just unlocked v man and i now have dimont skull up to evry portal i unlocked by my mage i have diomont skull on Stillmole and my v men don't have even 3 map unlocked before now i have +2mil on evry mob up to Stillmole and portals in W5 that i unlocked only by my ES so how it works i will get +2 mill on evry mob each speed run it was once for the first or it is a bug and i should not happend (sory for my english)

[smoky sage]

collect before the first sprinkle tho

[hexed pine]

yea that too

i mean this method worked for me

althought i was stuck for a while a few days ago but i found the source of the problem

here comes goat

pls chill bro

[quiet pewter]

thats a normal feauture/bug. vman gets unlocks of your furthest person due to sloppy coding

[hexed pine]

haven't even unlocked vman yet bruv

[tawny jacinth]

Ooooh cacti procs on picking

That would have been good to know

[neat nimbus]

ohh ok good to know thanks

[hexed pine]

even tho i can proly do it already

[sacred verge]

big mistak

mistake

get him asap

[hexed pine]

idk man

he's on 3mil dmg

[sacred verge]

what does that matter

[hexed pine]

exactly

[sacred verge]

mine was aswell when i got him

[hexed pine]

damn

well alright

shouldn't take long

[heavy moth]

bubble are never high enough

[sacred verge]

now he is like 600 mill, still bad but he does sooo much for account

[hexed pine]

no but wut do u think my minimum should be

[sacred verge]

just uppgrade everything man, never stop

[hexed pine]

aight

cuz a friend of mine

said

now that my second bub is on 2x

i should stop there for a while and get other bubs done

[heavy moth]

yea like try to aim for the 90% of the realistic cap of bubble

[sacred verge]

at your point there really aint no need to stop any bubbles

[hollow wasp]

is vman a boost for every char? i have no idea what exactly vman is doing. lol

[sacred verge]

but you should ofc focus whats easier first

[hollow wasp]

all i know is i grind him since 2 days

[hexed pine]

so i just need to get

1mil kills on all monsters

[tawny jacinth]

Vman can boost everyone with some of his abilitys

[hexed pine]

well aight

but i do kinda need gmush caps for salts

[hollow wasp]

W1 1m kills done for me, W2 i work on rn

[sacred verge]

wait till you will be doing 1 bill kills on every monster lol

[hollow wasp]

not using any candies, idk if worth

[hexed pine]

wut that's a thing

[sacred verge]

yea

[hollow wasp]

is like 10h for every mob type

[grizzled granite]

idk how to get my damage any higher to get further with rift 36, any tips that isn't just increase main stat and just increase it for every character?

[sacred verge]

eclipse skull

[heavy moth]

a huge dmg boost after you unlock in rift

[hexed pine]

ah

[grizzled granite]

shiii forgot that was a thing

[hexed pine]

wait is it w1 to w3 monsters

im only on rift 8 tbh

[grizzled granite]

welp this is gonna take a while

[heavy moth]

hope you got some candies 😛

[hexed pine]

so uhm voidwalker is it from w1 to w3

[grizzled granite]

1 Mil kills per hr on just my strongest character

for mushrooms

[sacred verge]

Gl boys

enjoy the grind

[grizzled granite]

[grizzled granite]

yeah the 1M kills is for w1-3

[hexed pine]

ah

doesn't seem too hard

well might as well chow for my barb too

[heavy moth]

true cause its account wide

[hexed pine]

haven't chowed anything yet

except for a few monsters

[fathom lagoon]

Does tentacleye affect bubo afk in terms of cc cooldown reducing?

[hexed pine]

yea

huge help

u can basically spam attacks

[fathom lagoon]

Like when afking offline

[hexed pine]

oh yea it does i think

[fathom lagoon]

Or is it only while active

[hexed pine]

i mean affect it or not

[fathom lagoon]

Oh nice

[sacred verge]

active only

[hexed pine]

u still need it

for cc

[sacred verge]

i think its only active

[grizzled granite]

I wonder if you can guess what my main is? 🙂

[sacred verge]

afaik

[hexed pine]

geez iduno bro

[sacred verge]

SB

[hexed pine]

honestly i really don't know

[fathom lagoon]

Yea I got tent 203 I was just wondering if it would reduce cc cooldown while afk offline. But yea doesn’t seem like it

[fathom lagoon]

Bet thanks

[hexed pine]

maybe bb

well

enough idleon for today

[fathom lagoon]

Vman

[thin kernel]

on the bubble grind time.. does it have a "max" lvl ? ( the one for class exp)

[grizzled granite]

nope

[thin kernel]

shit... time to lvl it up to 3000 XD

[grizzled granite]

try 30k

[thin kernel]

well if i start now and use a "click" i will get to it.. in like 1 year XD

[native folio]

Is there any guide for gaming? I feel stuck

[fast grail]

With bubo, it takes almost no time at all

[thin kernel]

atm im duing on bubo.. and when i need to go afk.. i go aktiv on my dk for keys and status XD

[grizzled granite]

also question is the last artifact good for damage? dont have as many atoms in the colider so idk if its gonna be good to grind for when I can get the eldrich versions

[thin kernel]

it will be good.. when you getting like 1k plus of them hour 😄

or even more 😄

[grizzled granite]

keep your real homies by your side at all times

[sacred verge]

just what in doing

[grizzled granite]

can you past a homie some godshards?

[sacred verge]

sure

[grizzled granite]

[sacred verge]

if only it was possible

[grizzled granite]

[sacred verge]

you cant farm any urself? 😛

[grizzled granite]

never really did the green mushroom money increase so no

[thin kernel]

think i have like 300 of them XD

[grizzled granite]

guess im doing it now though for the super duper skull

[green eagle]

the fact they don't stack properly annoys me so much

[fast grail]

Also makes you guess whenever someone posts a screen shot, do they have 4 godshard or 400,000?

[thin kernel]

ye thats annoys me to much.. but it keeps comming in so hopefull he fix it .. befor w6

[grizzled granite]

rip so much candy, got like 4x the kills on them now

[thin kernel]

but is biiig money 😄

[grizzled granite]

damn that damage increase was so big

[thin kernel]

ye as i knew .. is like is "owen" multiplicative so not big now.. but when you have like all in w1 it helps a lots

[grizzled granite]

I am such a moron I forgot this existed

im just gonna forget what im doing

so I stop looking like a fool

[serene forum]

Seriously? For one.

[grizzled granite]

tl:dr of what happened

[fast grail]

player screen to get bonus

[grizzled granite]

I know I refreshed it already was just joking

well my damage did go up by 500M so thats cool I guess

my candy probably doesn't agree though

[thin kernel]

they go wayyy down XD

[tall horizon]

You can't reroll for crafted, but the quest ring can still be rerolled. If it gets better afk then keep it, otherwise turn it into midnight

[quartz turtle]

anyone know if the claiming at 0 is going to be fixed, or the one relatedto shimmer island?

[grizzled granite]

while getting 1B mushroom kills I got some, ehhh, yeah a little bit of genes

[signal osprey]

About those divine armor pieces ... will they be part of the chain of upgradable "vanilla" armor pieces or will it be like a Chizoar armor situation that won't be upgradable to the next world's armor tier?

[green eagle]

no one has a clue mate, only lava knows

in the past boss armor wasn't used in upgrades, but lava used it for magma armor

so no idea what will happen in w6+

[signal osprey]

Thanks mate. My guess is it won't be upgradable so it might be better not to upgrade everything before w6.

[green eagle]

you only really should use the boots and helmet for most of your guys, on your SB/BB the chest and legs are a good idea for the respawn

[signal osprey]

Okay, good point.

[fast grail]

Not upgrading armor is missing out on current BIS gear, and its not like you have any other options

[signal osprey]

I'm currently grinding those void salts so if I get plenty I might as well get spoiled with those upgrades. :)

[green eagle]

not a huge achievement, but soon i'll have this "maxed" and i'll be able to free up another slot for other shrines to keep grinding construction rift bonuses

have a lot to work on

[hollow wasp]

i could make all these 3, is there any reason why i would?

[fast grail]

Slab, BIS trophy for skilling unless you have idle skilling trophy

actually idk if divine trophy is better because of all the stats . .

[hollow wasp]

hmmm

[sacred dove]

does multi kill affect Mini Boss? or should i just droprate prayer while farming them?

[sacred verge]

Dr prayer

[green eagle]

you should use DR prayer on mini bosses yes

but what's best for most minibosses is to use DK and grind up a bunch of orb numbers

[grizzled granite]

I was about to fight mini bosses thanks for the tip lol

[green eagle]

and then summon your minibosses

the orb will affect your minibosses too

[grizzled granite]

very smart man, thank you

[green eagle]

really nice for slush and shroom boss

[sacred dove]

thank you

[green eagle]

np, i have nothing else to do atm, my bubo is grinding liquid lmao

almost time to drain 3rd cauldron into cap again

[grizzled granite]

holy moly dr

also 624 ladles

[green eagle]

yep, see it helps a lot

[final basalt]

Anyone have some time to review a Idleon Eff link? Looking for some tips on what to focus on next.

[green eagle]

i need to grind my DK in arenas to get the cards, but i know i need to summon them too cuz they are beyond full atm i'm sure. I haven't done them in a while

[grizzled granite]

jesus dr

[green eagle]

i'll take a look if you want some help

[final basalt]

I would appreciate that!

https://first_run12.idleonefficiency.com

[echo crag]

some chiz bullying in your future, gotta make him give those gems

[green eagle]

first thing i see you need to do is run your minibosses, let me go further than the first page though

[grizzled granite]

also could anyone answer my question from before maybe?

alright then ill just get the eldrich forms first

[gaunt shale]

-stamps, you are missing so many you can get quite easy
-upgrade your anvil, lots of guys you can still upgrade with coins
-unlock all alchemy bubbles and get them high enough for them to at least get passive leveld up from NBLB

some things you can do withing like an hour and will help you quite a bit to progress

[green eagle]

you have some stamps that you could spend an hour upgrading across the board, max your anvil's production points with coins for each character at least and then spend the points on buying speed upgrades. you have a LOT of alchemy work that you need to do, so i suggest chopping some toilet logs to upgrade your roadkill bubble so your bubo can work on liquid and progress your alchemy further. get more meals to level 11 so that your cooking speed increases so you can in turn get more meals to level 11. after that focus the meals you can upgrade quickly in the beginning for good stat upgrades. there is some other side upgrade stuff you can look at doing too, but that would be in the long run and stuff you can do later. you mainly need to work on stamps and alchemy right now, with alchemy being a big highlight. cooking will also be a huge thing to increase your dmg/account as well, but it is a slow progression thing you can do while working on alchemy

[final basalt]

Apprciate both of your comments! Thanks @gaunt shale

[deft grail]

what are the best 4 classes to do that big dps check on rift 38?

sb, es, dk, ..?

[green eagle]

ES, DK, SB (if you can single out the boss), and bubo with aura

[deft grail]

mm bubo

[thin kernel]

any point in getting more then 100% on cookin roadkill?

[deft grail]

ty sir

[green eagle]

takes a long time to get there hahaha

but idk probably not

[thin kernel]

have it atm 😉

but maybe more water 😄

[green eagle]

ye water bubble is nice

have construction bob bubble really high yet?

[thin kernel]

call me bob?

[green eagle]

ye

[thin kernel]

is only 164 atm :/

[green eagle]

DK's favorite bubble

push that bob up to the SKY

[thin kernel]

well i have all the pets.. so 😄 so all bubble is aktiv 😄

but ye maybe get it up for a bit 😄

[green eagle]

ye, but more construction exp = higher construction level = more construction speed

[thin kernel]

= more dps? 😄

[stray valve]

we don't lvl construction for dps

[hollow wasp]

very first time i defeat frog4 in dungeon happy hour in 500h playtime

or frog5, the last one

[stray valve]

nice

[hollow wasp]

so i have 171 boosted runs, i made my x20 daily. should i use the double ticket prayer and spam this happy hour? xd

i cant get rid of these boosted runs

[rugged thistle]

is there anyway to fix this my mouse multi clicks after clicking stuff sometimes and it hit the claim button?

[echo crag]

should always do your first HH wiht the prayer since that one give a huge amount of flurbo

[dapper prism]

wtf

I had no necklaces like 5 minutes ago, pretty afk, eating atm. then i see this xD
https://i.imgur.com/NDytzSh.png

[thin kernel]

how the f XD

how manny "runs" have you do?

[echo crag]

not enough

[thin kernel]

have try to get the neck for like 30 runs.. only thing i get.. was one wing XD

only missing the key to push hardere

[dapper prism]

Not enough indeed.

First time i went NM Kruk i got 2x obols in the first 2 kills, then cape on kill 8 👀

Looks like i did 76 runs right now for those 4 pendants. Although those 4 are probably from the last 10 kills or so

[thin kernel]

someone is lucky XD

[barren otter]

woo i got more than 4 trash today

its a miracle

[dapper prism]

Just a little, although i want cape atm, im pretty happy with more afk pendants, surely going to help!

9k keys left to see how far i get

[echo crag]

pendant is needed for scarf right ?

[barren otter]

yes

[thin kernel]

how long have you farming the keys?

[dapper prism]

at least 1 day

Urm, had 12k keys this run, DK was giving me 55-60 keys/h active. plus some offline alts, although all alts are back to eclipsing

[thin kernel]

wtf XD i can get around 13-1500 keys day if im luck

[dapper prism]

Oh it was a joke, because "at least" means more than 1 day xD

[thin kernel]

ahh XD i was like wtf speedkilling them much XD

was thinking of farming like a weeks of keys.. and see if im lucky XD

[dapper prism]

But yeh, had like 8/10 or 9/10 chars at wurm, afk aint much at all but it still adds up.

[stray valve]

w5 boss keys are easy even for offline

[dapper prism]

This the 3rd time i got to around 10k+ keys

[thin kernel]

ahh ok 🙂

well still need to get most of my "army" to lvl 450 XD so time to boost grind time and get the one in bits to.. it will take some time ... but i will get it done 😄

[dapper prism]

Same, I did aim 425+ all for scarf, which is the important thing.
Most are 450+ now but still 5x roaming around 430s-440s :/

[thin kernel]

lowest one is 415 XD the best is 504 XD

i try to do that to 🙂

[dapper prism]

425 vman, 532 dk

[thin kernel]

bb and vman is 415 best is dk

[dapper prism]

definetely aim 425+ on all, (archers not as important)

but need 425 for scarf for afk gain (samplings)

[thin kernel]

ye i know 🙂

thats why i farming keys on all atm.. so i hopefully get it... and the cape on some of them XD is a good boost

and ofc to manny silver pen XD ( all box is max)

wtf XD

just look at the guild im in .. and how much gp i have made.. puff 3 Achiements

[warped grail]

someone know what is the best order to unlock the islands?

[thorn oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738868424813445172/1137812635254009906/islandnavfinalfr.png

[warped grail]

ty

[dapper prism]

I def recommend going seasalt 2nd, not shimmer

Most people i saw who did shimmer 2nd, kinda regret it

seasalt will help get more bottles sooner, giving faster island unlocks

[grand karma]

also shimmer bonuses are really lackluster

[thin kernel]

do it have other use then for the quest atm ?

[dapper prism]

They arnt that bad since they are Base stats, not total stats, so they are worth more than they look.

[thin kernel]

@grand karma are it not good ?

[warped grail]

then i will go seasalt

[grand karma]

they are good, but personally i’d take that huge increase in fishing exp any day

[warped grail]

thanks @dapper prism and @thorn oriole

[rotund ivy]

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[zealous niche]

Grinding anything isn’t fun, it is very satisfying when it’s done though

[thorn oriole]

Shimmer you can’t do much go “oh that’s cool” unless im doing it wrong lol

[thorn oriole]

Not playing

[zealous niche]

A few extra stats

But I would have rathered fishing mastery and new fishing cards over a few stats

[barren otter]

but the training dummy

[dapper prism]

Once you start active ES for Drops or Bubo for CC (alchemy) and see amounts you get initially is amazing and fun 😄

[dapper prism]

And with that, extra bottles a day due to quest progress

[rustic sparrow]

Just unlocked W5 and have Doot, whats the first things i should focus on

[dapper prism]

Sit on Divinity for lvl 2, not sure if all alts or just 1.

Then start sailing and gaming asap

[wind umbra]

i think you have to have lvl2 on all chars cause doot only works when the char you are on has lvl 2 div

[rustic sparrow]

I picked and captain and sent the boat out.
I picked my flowers and upgraded

Going to do some looking into it more but is that starting it?

[heavy moth]

i think i need to resample 💀

[rustic sparrow]

A bit busy atm so just trying to get the ball rolling until i can read into it

[fast grail]

Probably

[heavy moth]

only been 2 weeks but i didnt push far enough on void and i finished all his actual sample

[coral goblet]

god bless

[dapper prism]

Pretty much yeh, just check in on sailing and gaming a few times a day when you can
Try and unlock more boats/captain slots early on, remember theres a scroll wheel.

Divinity will be all passive with doot, except you wont have blessings and the minor link for tiger god which is far down. Getting some early on blessnigs 3rd buff on a god that's unlocked, can be very helpful too.

[rustic sparrow]

alright, thank you!

[fast grail]

Depending on the stage of the game you are at, you probably need to be re-sampling once every 2 weeks or so anyways

Dont be like me, its been like 4 months since i sampled logs

[heavy moth]

i think im at a stage that golden skull gives more gains than 2 weeks resample :/ but not quite sure ahha

[heavy moth]

ouff 4 months i think its time to rip that bandage

[dapper prism]

4 months o.o

I've only played for 5 months

[fast grail]

Thinking about doing it this weekend

lmaooooo

Finally got all relevant chopping bubbles to 95%

they were like 80-85% last time i sampled

[dapper prism]

1b samples i see 😄

[zealous niche]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-shia-la-beouf-flame-gif-4445204

You know what you need to do

[dapper prism]

Barely hitting 90% was already 800m+

[fast grail]

My hourly clicks are still too

[fast grail]

What was bubble 1 for that sample?

[dapper prism]

My hourly clicks are called "daily or weekly clicks"

My bubble 1's are only 350-400

Rest of cutting stuff was 500

[zealous niche]

How are you 800M sampling

[fast grail]

oh god, you have that high of a sample with that bubble 1s? I really need to re-sample goddamn . . .

[zealous niche]

Do I have 800M samples waiting? I thought I was at 200 but my bubbles are higher

[heavy moth]

https://pazuzeus.idleonefficiency.com jsut to double check logs bubble

[dapper prism]

Slacking on those minibosses 😉

[heavy moth]

yeaaa missing some time over here doing the bare minimum XD

meaning hourclick

[dapper prism]

My alch:
https://i.imgur.com/yo5Op2c.png

[paper sail]

I thought you were much closer to me lol

[fast grail]

you have 800m samples with that alch ????????

[dapper prism]

Been a bit unfocused ingame so no clue what nblb is hitting

[paper sail]

Are you talking 800m SAMPLES or 800m output?

[dapper prism]

Nawh output is 8b

https://i.imgur.com/fL97npv.png

[heavy moth]

was gonna ask the same cause my alchemy is pretty similare except w5 bubble at 500 😮 and i only got 600 mil last sample

[fast grail]

what in the goddamn

[paper sail]

Doot?

[dapper prism]

Dont you dare mention doot

[paper sail]

Yeah doesn't make sense

[dapper prism]

Do have doot but that won't give an extra 300m..

[paper sail]

Bruh

[fast grail]

what si your multi-tool at?

[paper sail]

Doot gives MASSIVE afk gains

You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise

[dapper prism]

Eh

Had 200m sample, 2 weeks went by + doot and it was a 300m sample

[paper sail]

Doot is like 60-80% AFK

It's huge

[dapper prism]

Which is like 15% at the end when you have 400%+ afk gain

[paper sail]

I can only get 360% with snake, without having to put all 9 others on goat

So yeah 40% extra afk gains over me matters a lot lol

[dapper prism]

A lot is 10-15%

10-15% difference in sample*

Which would be 500m to 550-575m not 800m

[dapper prism]

whats ur stamp at for effy?

1800 here (lvl 180)

[heavy moth]

would be 155

[paper sail]

Maybe I just need to resmaple. Was ~600m but I guess that was 3 weeks ago

[heavy moth]

does that 25 level really give that much ahah

[paper sail]

It's just a flat 10 per level (or well 20 per level with the stamp doubler from lab)

[dapper prism]

what was eldritch artifact % a day again?

my output is at 1.42x atm, wondering how long my last sample was ago

[elfin idol]

2.5

[paper sail]

3% per day I think

[elfin idol]

oh thats ancient ignore more

[dapper prism]

Mhm, so exactly 2 weeks ago

[paper sail]

You know IE shows it right?

[dapper prism]

yeh, just closed everything earlier

[paper sail]

...you close things?

[dapper prism]

Sometimes xD

[heavy moth]

did you mean the first eff stamp or second

jsut realise theres was 2

[dapper prism]

Multitool, the last one

[heavy moth]

ohh multitool is 190

[dapper prism]

although my first is 195

[heavy moth]

multi 190 first logs eff stamp 155 and second one is 210

[fast grail]

Alright, well after seeing that guess I am re-sampling tonight then

[dapper prism]

im blind, there's a second eff one?

[paper sail]

Hatchet, Swag Swingy

[dapper prism]

ah right

wasnt glowing up red/green so i mentally kinda ignored it right now xD

195 / 210 / 180 for my 3 things atm

Btw be sure to level your tab 1 talent: (could be higher but 2lazy to respec)
https://i.imgur.com/QgfKRNe.png

[heavy moth]

i still dont get our sammple diff XD

i mustt ve missed something while resampling ahah

[dapper prism]

Made this from all the spreadsheets:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

My fav for overview is Smol's (above and here a pic:)
https://i.imgur.com/yfEqdUr.png

Also dont forget new content things like new scarf etc. although idk if i had the scarf back then, dont think so?

Also remember to play around with gold food and it's buffs

[heavy moth]

i dont have IS stuff tho and i might have forgot zerg

[dapper prism]

My initial sample was 308 to 762 and through min maxing a ton more i got it to 802/809m

[dapper prism]

I didnt have IS yet either, although did just get the hat a bunch of days ago, so curious to see how itll be for the next sample run

[heavy moth]

nicee gratz

[signal osprey]

Hat is a relatively small upgrade over magma

Trophy is the really big one

[heavy moth]

my woodcutting level was low tho only 78

[dapper prism]

Wood level doesn't seem to do much though?

as long as you have the tools/foods

Also using obols etc.

Every "small thign" thats 1% adds up

[heavy moth]

i think it give better bonus from stamp but dont knwo how significant

[fast grail]

wait trickz, what was your level with that sample?

[signal osprey]

Levls are a decent boost of efficiency

[fast grail]

Levels are pretty important for it

[dapper prism]

Wood level, sec

[signal osprey]

Every level gives a 0.5% efficiency boost in addition to better effect of stamps

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/sWV1Iqe.png

65 on bubo and es

[signal osprey]

Mining specifically also has a talent based on power of 10 mining level

[paper sail]

Huh. That's a bigger boost than expected for non-mining

[fast grail]

what in the fuck

[dapper prism]

Damn that sounds nice then, though it was minimal

[paper sail]

Time to fire up the penis flatener time candies

[dapper prism]

Time to fire up the dandelion and get level 100 woodcutting by tomorrow then

[signal osprey]

One level isn't huge but if you do like 20 levels you'll notice a very big difference over time

[heavy moth]

just went from 78 to 100 and upgrade stamps to 230 hope it will help a bit

[signal osprey]

For reference my lowest mage is 120 chopping

[heavy moth]

😮 and your void ?

[signal osprey]

130

Gonna get the mages there too before my next sample

[barren otter]

show all vman skill levels contract...

[misty spindle]

I cant get my first divinity after 1 failed 50% and like 3 failed 25% I wanna jump of a building

[paper sail]

My Void is 119 choppin I've been focusing on fixing trapping

[uncut bear]

What could it be that i suddenly Print 135k Iron when a few days before i printed 236 Iron. Big Bubble, Talents, cards, Star sign - I Double checked everything. Printer prayer was Not used.

[paper sail]

Eat it, nerd

[signal osprey]

Welp

Guess its time for a new game

[uncut bear]

*236k

[signal osprey]

I'm retired now

[barren otter]

get owned

[paper sail]

I'm jealous of your trapping

I was DoingItWrong ™️ for way too long

[heavy moth]

wrecked

[barren otter]

ah shiet...

[heavy moth]

ahahaha

[paper sail]

I want to be free from Active-BM hell

[signal osprey]

Having 8 hour traps giving over 40m exp each does help a bit with the levels

[paper sail]

I'll have Honker vial to 12 in about an hour

Poison Froge up to 8 in... more than an hour. Uhhh 4 or 5 hours.

[barren otter]

active bm...

[signal osprey]

[paper sail]

It's sad but like thousands of times faster for my trapping goals

[barren otter]

wait

i know active bm helps with breeding

but how does it help with trapping

[paper sail]

You're limited to 119 shinies per trap regardless of trap length, assuming max rank Shiny prayer

So full 80x 20min traps = the most possible shinies per hour

[barren otter]

oh so less about active

moreso just being on it for the 20 min timer

[paper sail]

Yeah it's just being there to click Collect every 20 minutes

[barren otter]

gotcha

[paper sail]

and I'm not swapping characters every 20 minutes

[barren otter]

thatll be me soon...

trapping vials are last on my list and its coming up

[quiet pewter]

fuck trapping vials

[paper sail]

Someone pointed out the other day that Base Critters give increased EXP on Nature Traps so

Figured I'd get the Honker vial up a level and poison froge up 3 levels while I was at it

[signal osprey]

I just did 1 hour frog traps back when I was doing hourly claims for sailing and got level 8 that way

[paper sail]

3x slower but I get it

[signal osprey]

After that was everyone on honkers until max to get the base critters before moving on to the other vials

And now I'm like 3 days from blobs so then no more vials

[paper sail]

Ye ye. That's my plan tonight once Poison Froge finishes

I think I'll just go back to 40hr Royals and get off BM though

[signal osprey]

Yeah aside from when I was doing the frogs I've had 10 hour traps for my vials

[barren otter]

get lvl 10 shiny sticks and octodar while youre at it 😉

[signal osprey]

Those were 2 of the first I pushed to 5

[paper sail]

I've got 5 in each. Might bump put them back in after the last of the World6 shinies gets to 5

...oh hey they all finished lol

[zealous niche]

Did you ever get the 1B shiny frogs?

[barren otter]

wonder how long itll take with a full pen on em

[paper sail]

Time to fix that

[signal osprey]

1b shiny critters isnt possible

[barren otter]

assuming you have all the other +% faster shiny rate at lvl 5

[zealous niche]

I was wondering about that

[signal osprey]

Not realistically at least. It would require 20 minute traps going 24/7 for months

Or it would just take years if you're a normal human being instead

Your choice

[barren otter]

could math out the hours if you really wanted AJ

[zealous niche]

Today, I do not want

[wind umbra]

is there a level limit for shiny pets?

[zealous niche]

It’s the first weekend I do not have marking to do for the last two months

[zealous niche]

Softcapped, in that it’s unrealistic to keep levelling

[quiet pewter]

20

[signal osprey]

I think I heard that shinies cap at 20 but you wont actually get them that high

[zealous niche]

Most stop around level 5 initially

[wind umbra]

okok ty

[zealous niche]

Getting all to level 5 is better than getting two to level 8

That sort of trade off

Not sure if it’s exact numbers

[barren otter]

rough math puts its at 1500 days of 20 min traps

[signal osprey]

Kinda but not really because meal effect % pets are better than almost all of the other pets combined

[rough crest]

curious but for the gaming squirrel should is level both choices equally or bits more than growth time?

[zealous niche]

Better get started

[barren otter]

[paper sail]

Why do the math when someone else already did? (this is a joke)

[barren otter]

is it still 100% shiny on frog at lvl 50 snitch?

i never leveled mine that high

[paper sail]

Very easily, yes

[barren otter]

oh i see

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure I can get 100% shiny on blobs with maxed snitch

[paper sail]

I still have 100% shiny on Honkers at least, haven't checked blobs

[signal osprey]

Shiny critter chance isnt too hard to max

[paper sail]

Uh so this doc says 39,391 hours to go from Vial 10 - 13 which is 1641 days or 4.5 years

[barren otter]

oh hey i was close

[paper sail]

I will settle for rank 8 lmao

[signal osprey]

I know what I'm working on when I finish blobs

[barren otter]

is that 119 limit a strict limit?

[paper sail]

What do I put in my fenceyard now

[paper sail]

Shiny Snitch prayer is the ONLY increase possible to # of shinies per trap

[signal osprey]

[paper sail]

Did you take anything to 6 before going ham?

[barren otter]

wasnt sure if any of the critters per trap increased the shiny limit

[barren otter]

also all sticks

[zenith nova]

Should my Maestro have the highest worship level? Not sure how I can make my Maestro keep up with my wizard

[paper sail]

Most will say not worth it after you've above like 40-50 worship

[signal osprey]

I did shiny speed 6 > starsigns > decent bonuses to 5 (DR, MK, eff, etc) > Shiny speed 7 > Meal effect 8

[quiet pewter]

not super important, but you do want to level your vman for the worship+trapping level talent

[signal osprey]

Now I'm doing shinies to either 8 or 9 not sure yet

Then I'll probably do the decent ones to 7

And then meal effect to 10

[paper sail]

I have all Shinies to 6, one starsign to 6 for full infinite board, everything else is 5 across the board except poopoo like skill exp, class exp, and non-WIS stat

[quiet pewter]

normally done on SB

[hollow wasp]

when i have 220 PO boxes, what do i want my DK to get first?

[quiet pewter]

no, afk or candy, SB because you get forge and anvil

[hollow wasp]

the loot box?

[quiet pewter]

ES might be slightly better, but worth doing at least some on SB for the perks

[runic girder]

Mining

Always go skilling box first

[little pagoda]

It's incredibly easy to get maestro higher than that

[quiet pewter]

for farming bosses, does card snapshotting stay through boss resets?

[little pagoda]

For maestro worhip, transufion is your friend. Then check idleon efficiency for best xp/energy you can do, and just spam that with transfusion active

[quiet pewter]

it does very little for the skill which is why its not really a priority, keep it higher if you like

[paper sail]

Well yes, but that wasn't the question lol. The Right Hand benefit to Worship becomes so incredibly minute that it doesn't matter after 40-50

[little pagoda]

It's good to have him levelled up for species epoch anyway

[zenith nova]

Thanks guys, all helps! Wasn't sure if I was missing out massively through transfusion

[quiet pewter]

which was the inital answer to the question

[gentle anchor]

if i i need to be active with ES for grinding portals but active i cant stay alive can someone help?

[runic girder]

Yes, defence can

[gentle anchor]

i dont got that

better armor?

[fast grail]

FMJ

[runic girder]

If youre dying, you need 1 of 3 things
Better food
Beter hemoglobin
Better defence

[wispy sapphire]

does hemoglobi go above 50?

ok thx

[wind umbra]

make sure u have this skill activated as well

[paper sail]

Better HP to the list

[runic girder]

Sssh

[paper sail]

Just saying lol

Getting hit for 100k matters a lot more when you have 20k HP than 300k

Hemo also restores %hp so more HP = more recovery from Hemo too 🙂

[green eagle]

tomorrow i'll finally have all constellations finished, took way too long on one that was super easy because i just never did it haha

[paper sail]

I skipped most of the long AFK tasks. 146/167 good enough for now

[steep plaza]

why is my damage in w5 lower than in w4 for example?

[fast grail]

On DK? You prob dont have accurarcy needed for damage talent

[frigid sundial]

Does putting multiple shinies multiply the speed of obtaining boosts?

[gentle anchor]

killed 500k TV's no batteries

[steep plaza]

i have enough acc

[green eagle]

yes

[wind umbra]

shrines?

[green eagle]

lol but now i won't have to do them again in the future

[runic girder]

Accounted for 1.5x?

[azure spindle]

does dk orb work in background when you re-enter a map like colosseum's or do you have to wait until it's off cd?

[steep plaza]

standing in w1 in city (have artifact and lab bonus)

[green eagle]

wait and place a new one

[azure spindle]

ah rip

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/1870765019304911169ba4d5fd53aea6.png

I'm free

[steep plaza]

what do you mean?

[runic girder]

Dk needs 1.5x accuracy for damage bonus

[wanton stag]

when farming bosses do you get more materials dropped per key from normal or nightmare?

[fast grail]

DK damage talent needs 1.5x

[runic girder]

Normal

[wanton stag]

ty

[runic girder]

Only do chaotic/nightmare for card and wingw (nightmare exclusives

[steep plaza]

ok, yes ist was the acc, thanks for help guys 🙂

[gentle anchor]

can someone explain the rift?

[runic girder]

Complete challanges, get bonuses

[gentle anchor]

do you have a limited time?

[runic girder]

For some

As in get x kills in y time, but if you fail you can still retry it

[gentle anchor]

just entered for the first time

whats best class for it

im using ES

[golden cipher]

you need all classes

[runic girder]

Usually the active classes

[gentle anchor]

ok

thanks

[runic girder]

But yeh, youre gonna need more then one character for some tasks

[golden cipher]

DK, siege and elemental are the most important

[gentle anchor]

is using wormhole in rift good?

from ES

[golden cipher]

you should not use it if not mandatory or drop chance demanded

one task is reach X wormhole number

[runic girder]

Their hp probably outscales you quickly

[gentle anchor]

ow ok

[runic girder]

Thats like quite a bit ahead

[zealous niche]

This, the hp scaling with wreck you

[fathom lagoon]

On the road to 1B dmg

15% there

[runic girder]

Youre on the 500 kills in 5 minutes now right?

[zealous niche]

Bubo is best respawn mechanic for rift, orb is pretty good too

[gentle anchor]

yes

[zealous helm]

Anyone have some sort of guide for vman speed running?

[runic girder]

Suggest dk if he oneshots

[zealous niche]

There’s one in #1084911530417606656 iirc

[runic girder]

Check #1084911530417606656 think theres one

[gentle anchor]

he doesnt ES is befarr best of my char

no tied with blood beserker

i never use DK

i can lvl him if it rlly helps

[runic girder]

Bb works as well

Or just ES but drop the portal

Its only the first one, a lot still works

[runic girder]

Youre gonna use him a lot, inside and outside rift