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Yes?
While on my damage preset, it says my cooking speed is higher. When i switch to blood marrow it goes from 34T to 29T. Is that just visual?
It was going faster at 29T too so do I just not know numbers
I have.... 0 idea
screenshots would help, it definitely shouldn't be doing that
The only two non-boss or event card you should cardify to 5* is the genie and poop cards. You should dump the rest into boss or event cards (probably should do event first when able)
another note is that cooking speed tends to refresh on map change
Iβve been changing maps to make sure that these numbers are accurate
and this is what itβs saying
I'm on fire today lmao
Appreciate the help
no problem
whats the maximum optimal talent level for DK orb (before duration exceeds cooldown)? for both with PO mana box maxed and without
267
with or without PO mana box maxed?
ah with, dunno without
ok ty, guess gonna push extra talent lv since just got ancient fury
I'll be impressed if you have 270+ talent level without having PO maxed tho π
heard some intentionally do not max it so they can extend duration without CD overlapping
Does the wormhole skill have a similar issue like the orb?
at very max it might but for most players, no
I don't have slugg and I don't overlap yet
but with the +25 from slugg I might
like 107 seconds cd with PO box maxed
which po box extends that?
mana
oh shit
i need to get on that
good for pretty much every class
yeah i didnt even think about those boxs
Good for every class, period.
yeah but it's not like BM gains much outa it
Have you seen these cooldowns
I could see some weirdo making a DK without it to extend orb
probably not worth it in the long run, kill slower due to less statue/boomerang
Mana helps :c
even for the overlap orb issue, just get it above 300-310 ish where it offsets the overlap penalty
is that even worth?
Whatβs this overlap penalty?
name I guess can be hourly clicked so it's one of the best sources of damage
the formula for it is quadratic so higher levels = way higher damage
Are there any tricks to sailing early or is it just slow? Getting slow gold and exp gains so far
Roll doot - procc omni - roll around in artifacts and gold
good ole doot
So uh. Do we know what the hell the 100k afk trophy does?
Omni is the one that gives you extra skill time for afk?
it's like 10% all AFK% and 70% skill exp
That's worse than idle skilling wtf (for skilling)
Proccs afk gains for refinery, gaming 3d printer, sailing
And cooking
So I just gotta wait I guess. Their sail time is slowww and hard to tell which island to send everyone to
Or should I send my first guy that is upgraded to do clouds even if they take like 24 hrs
Rush the artifact for trading loot for gold bars
Really? I'd have thought 10% afk% is better overall gains than 15% eff
And yes, always have flagship unlocking clouds
Thats 4k days of afk. Longer than this game has existed.
Is the stuff he buys random or can you change it
Skilling is 15% gain ignore this
Even if it says the sail time is like 24 hrs?
Random I think but toolbox will show upcoming trades
The 15% eff IS Trophy wins because of Prowess tiers
Maybe not then π
Lol its eff im stupid
how many keys did u guys spend to get some kattlekruck loot?
Never really paid attention
I'm unlocking island 4 but it's taking awhile. The other 3 I have on island 2 I think
Something like 25k keys for my first Cape drop
Howβs your divinity? The upgrades there help sailing speed a lot
anyone got the bubo image for skills in w5
whats best? doing normal or chaotic for obol and pendant?
Ummm everyone around level 20 all on mantra
assuming i can bother doing normal
I've been w5 for 5 days
Then just chill, gains will rack up π
Does doot give you all the minor bonuses as well?
Yeah
Okay I will just wanted to make sure I'm not missing anything
the minor bonuses scale with your div level
Okay cool
And the blessings are the ones you upgrade with stuff
It's so hard to decide what everyone needs to be doing lol. I need to level my bubo and see if I can do the cranium cooking
He's been in lab
CC is not really worth it until you have lvl 200 tent
Hmmm okay I can't get that high
I tried, itβs very lackluster π
The 1k checkout is rough lol
Me neither. Iβve been having 5 ships going for fury relic for a month now, still no luck. As soon as I get it imma be going for active bubo
I'm not even close
Same lol
Where is that one from
Everyone who farmed before W5 existed would like a word π
Fair π
But the opportunity cost went up since then π
The price of your alchemy being behind also went up
True π
I'm wondering if I should try to start crystal farming on my maestro to get skills up for printing
I think he has a 1/66 chance
Or is it better to just regular skill him for now his skills are all the base requires for maestro so far
when do people reset shield for PO orders?
After the +10 i think
oh I wasnβt paying attention idk when that is lol
What lvl do you need him to reach to be hoghest?
let me check wiki
100 I think, not sure
yeah 100, thank you
30s 41 for moning
The cost of the box stops scaling after a streak of 100. For something like Order #1, the cost is so tiny that it usually doesn't matter. Up to your account though.
Conversely Order #6 gets pricey really fast and would make sense to reset more frequently.
I don't think my trash multiplier is working. Because I have plus 60%. And I've been getting 4 every single day regardless
i get so many
just bad rng
But 4 every day 5 days in a row?
bad luck
Ah fuck I'm dumb
is it possible for bronze build speed and worship obols to get +2 on the misc stat?
Misc stat can be rolled on bronze obols
The table on the wiki shows what tiers of obol can roll what
how high does this reward get up to?
more
think there is a cap at 40 points
I assume no one is anywhere near it
some tasks are easier than others
ah
Yeah each task has different scaling with a max of 40. Some of them its actually very easy to cap whereas some are so hard we will likely not even cap them in W8
are you dumping book first?
I got pretty lucky and actually got book in 5 purchases lol
And after leveling it up I can say that its probably not worth it to go book first
really?
Assuming average luck on getting the book you'll likely get as much stats from just leveling base stats than you would from the book
the other ones are very low stat....
The book isn't a whole lot either
I haven't done the math but I'm risk averse so I'm raising everything until it costs 2 and then gonna start going for book
The book will be like 4% for most people
surely 4% of 15000 stats is nice?
Its not 4% of 15k though
4% of considerably less base stats
It doesnt apply to your total stats
So the more you level bubble 1's the less effect % stats has on your characters
Constantly rolling those 1% odds to get chem does not feel good
If you're doing 1%, you're doing it way too late
hmmm?
I mean its like 1 batch of harvest
what do you mean by 1% your doing it way too late?
The unlock chance on chems
Its more efficient to spam roll at like .1%
yeah, roll chems eveyr harvest
1% is no way 1 harvest for a chem π€
im at 17.66 dr on my bubo, any ideas to get 0.34 dr?
unless your talking about like no growth cycles
No growth cycles is the best way to get chem 
ohh interesting
Best chem farm is to turn on kitsune and never leave the gaming UI until you get it
But thats also the most miserable
well I also get those afk pops from all my other chars
Should be opening gaming after everyone and hitting research, there's bit diminishing returns for the amount of genes needed to the % gained
Money break points are every odd number so 18 shouldnt do much
yeah, but wouldnt it improve key gains?
woah w5 is super rng based
i have spent all in that and also im not getting much. is it random?
Maybe a little but I'm not sure on exactly how much it would do
You sure you're looking at the trash in the UI and not the icon stacks that pop up when u get there?
so i shouldnt really be worrying about it then
I dont on my bubo
right, card farming has been completed for now
You know what that means? It's time for beans
Its always bean time
this is also the highest my non-vman crystals have been
as well as might highest drop rate
and apparently I'm full on worship charge whoops
Level that stamp ASAP!
Will get you to the next rate π
this is my bubo
yay
Idk why i always assumed crystal spawn rate is by full fraction, if it's % based like toolobox i guess then any upgrade helps
should be yeah
It is
Also this is more or less max. Cant get any higher crystallin so its just shrine levels
250 crystallin and 20 shrine
Who's the best to get lava skulls in rift? I've done it with ES?
idk have you done it on ES?
2nd ES 
Yes
bubo and dk worked for me
πmy 2 bubos crying
2 bubos, mhmm very helpful xD
I might change soon, but for now they'll be fine
Bubo can be a risk if you kill them fast and wipe the map
SB is sometimes mentioned afaik
How does it even work?? You kill one skull, there's a chance a higher skull will spawn?
Ahhh okay got it. So manual is better than auto? Or do I just put it on auto and hope for the best?
sb doesnt have a map wide kill skill
Thats why u just active and usually dont use bubo or dk if they have too much map clear, and instead go for sb
Are you counting the icons that drop or actually checking the store?
checking store
Same
Thats 31 trash in 4 days (first pic)
I'm wondering if something is/was bugged and if it's actually 4 static a day
Like, i know day 1 everyone may get more since trash accumulates day over day
But im also very confident i got more than 4 on day 2/3
yea
i saw ppl with lvl 3 trash way earlier than me
even saw someone with lvl 4 trash
its probably a rng number
I know someone who got lvl 3 tash on day 1.
are they the bugged ones or am i 
Nawh, i also got 4 today and believe yesterday too.
Either way the mechanic feels non-rewarding and bad
Yo guys, looking for a suggestion on what bubbblke to atom next, I have all mains stats at 1k, I have the bubbles that gives passives for that color all at 420, LArrryy over 500 suggestions?
Main bubbles at 1k but larry only 500? π
As long as you can afford it with atoms, push larry early on to 1.1k
10% chance for +3 instead of +2 is still pretty nice
Oh damn alright, sounds like thats the next goal then
it would be better if it showed a range so im not sitting here making up some arbitrary range based on other people's daily average
but yea will still feel bad
Also, main stat bubbles shouldnt really be atom'd, there's a ton of other priorities for atoms early on and main stat can easily be done with hourly clicks over time
Yup, based on day 1+2 screenshots it felt like it was 4-40s or something. Hard to tell with the +% trash but if im still getting 4 trash at +60% that's just rough π¦
Gotchya thanks Trickz
oh yea thats the other thing too
we've gotten +% upgrades
but nope still getting 4
What is the best attack bar for ES?
is money % on keychains a seperate multiplier, or useless?
Aanyone willing to check out my IE and help me decide what I need to prioritize
are the new stamps/ bribes any good?
i can take a look
you have a ton to do on most features, honestly if you just pick anything and focus it, it wont be wasted effort. getting all content unlcoked would be the main thing at your stage. you have locked bubbles, missing stamps, locked sailing, missing gods etc. but if you want a specific focus id recomend setting up a bubo to activly push alchemy and get bubble unlocks using cranium cooking
yeah i totally know i have everything to do and thats the problem haha. knowing what to prioritize FIRST that will make the rest easier/faster
I'm about 1-month in so everything needs work
ive been leveling the cranium cooking bubble a lot
but havent leveled my bubo cause people kept telling me its not worth doing until you can get skills 200+
oh and all the guys in w3 are just pushing to be able to get keys
id say alchemy would be a good priority. but if you feel like picking any other features and looking into it for a day ti wont be wasted time. idleon is mostly about time management, it throws more at you than you can do. so just pick something and make sure you understand that features and develop it
Cause they never got there
Work minimum bubbles. All your discount bubbles are at level one, then start leveling bubbles using their respective classes so they are cheaper. Half of your bubbles are level 1
yeah tons of bubbles are low because i havent had the acutal time into the game yet, but ill focus on that π
thats not really true, bubo pushing existed before 200 tent was possible. sure it will be faster then, but its still very doable, and your alchemy is underdeveloped
Same here, I'm getting 4 a day even with 60%
I think ive focused on alchemy a lot for the time ive been in at least
bubo still viable without 200+ tent, we did it the entirety of w4
Viable yes optimal no
ive been boosting laaaaaaaary and cranium cooking a lot so that when I CAN do the bubo stuff itll be reayd
puttign it off and leavign your alchmy bad is also not optimal...
If you hit a wall in gaming and are close to snail I strongly recommend to just save for snail.
ill level my bubo up and see how he does
im saving for the 500m box atm
almost ther
Make sure to level purple bubble 3, that will help you level cooking cranium faster, you prob have very very little chopping eff rn
If you don't have access 200+ skill levels, there's nothing you can really do about it
im not sure what my chopping eff is
is havent resampled in a bit
i havent tried to brew new bubbles in awhile cause the chance was so low even on bubo, so i started spamming the boosts
@boreal cosmos you also seem to have a lot of recipes locked in the kitchen, its worth keeping that moving
yeah i got cabbage asap and started doing only that
cause i thought whats the point of the recipes if i wont be making them yet
What is 200 tent?
level 200 of this skill makes it go from reducing by 2 seconds to 3 seconds
im about to try to do the frigid tower defense too and see if i can get enough souls to make the void staff
and ill pump bubo levels
what are your cauldorn levels like? the 4 boosts on teh cauldron. i dont think IE shows them
Staff has too much range
you have a decent amount in luck too right?
gloves make you get close to the enemy before casting aura
Definetelly gotta level that 2x
that is my fastest cauldron 120k/hr atm
yep try to keep them kinda even imo. but with bubos talent for unlocks and bubo cc, you should be able to melt through bubble unlocks
i was thinking to go for diamond chef
Just be sure to do your daily Bubo CC's
Level this a lot, active on bubo, cranium cooking, to push for cauldron cost/luck/extra boosts?
but maybe not really necessary yet?
my unlock chance is like
20% or lower
annoying
All that doesn't matter much
I think I have tenteyecle maxed at like 150. Is there another skill or something that boosts cap?
20% is huge???
As said, nearly all your progress will come from CC
Indeed, make sure to have bubble equiped, PO box for alch as well
is it?
Enjoy 20%
just finishing getting the moustahce combs then ill get my bubo leveling
20% is massive
that means they just havnt unlocked a lot of bubbles yet xD
yup
i do need to do the tower defense still though even if im not gonna make the staff yet
do people use those gloves on ES too?! ES has been my main
more bob
Larry 1100 very early on, extra bubbles = free progress
or start on 90%
90-95%, 1100 larry, fmj
Overtime it is worth it
I wouldnt atom to 1900 for the 115%, eventually just hourly click for that
First thing I did as soon as i had the atoms for larry
I'm tempted to do it through atom, would take a week but still feels like it would be nice xD
try to unlock the last salt, try to unlock islands. in general jsut try to unlock stuff
Do your minibosses..
Also dont forget to use mman printing skill
islands i havent done fishing enough yet
i want to get my maestro to 30 first
should i just afk that on him?
oh wait not the new islands you mean
but yeh they meant sailing
gotcha
you asked me about sailing
Do your bosses on dk, collect your keys, how do you have only 1x w2 key and 0 w3 keys (daily) do those quests..
yeah i just thought the new one for some reason
You will need keys at some point and if you're gaining 0 then rip other stuff
im pushing to get the 23 ones now
i just havent had time to do them until now
world 3 ones**
w3 quest key is useless
your stamps are neglected, and barely any unlocked
Honestly, just go through each tab yourself... a ton of this is just obvious stuff
Still need keys for vman runs? they have 0 daily ones.
My main concern was just which things are best to try to focus first to make the rest easier in the long run
True but slush/chizoar gives so much
pick a thing, focus it till its better, pick a new thing
Do stuff afk that can be done afk, do stuff active that needs to be done active, step by step.
Get some quick stuff out of the way so it's less things to worry about
Sorry, but you've ignored so many easy/low/quick stuff and "rushing w5" isnt an excuse in this case (not that you said that, but nearly everyone uses that as an excuse usually)
half your bubbles are level 1.
How is it ignoring them if i use the cauldorn charges as soon as they are up?
As mentioned about 3 times earlier, do your bubo CC's daily
Well welcome to the brick wall where food and candy will do nothing for you
bubo cc
and I said I was going to do that
Alchemy is progression now
ngl I havenβt been using my bubo at all, but thatβs because i was lazy
bad fake
Crying rn
Accidentally Left iPad on all night and my bubo was at citringes, he gained 25 levels lol
Thing is, half those bubbles would be easy to level up and gain them a lot more 3D prints for more resources. and/or progress for better CC's for enough water
you mean the ones i current have, or the ones i need to unlock still?
Is active that much more exp?
Yea itβs crazy
Can be like 200x+ more rate
what the hell
What would take me 3 hours to lvl up afk only takes me 15 mins active, 10 mins on my DK
okay then I gotta get on that
crystals are the biggest diffrence, crystal exp is massive especially once you can spawn a ton of them. no crystal exp offline
For my Bubo level 300 to 352
Afk info would have been 35 days.
Active was 4h 8 minutes.
and 4h is a lot nicer than 35 days
Sheeesh lol 52 lvls in 248 mins
im going to gear my bubo and active him right now
my bubos only about 210 and 190 so yeah that would definitely be a nice boost
I went from 220-245 overnight active at citringes
i have the atom upgrade up to 15, if fails its gonna be 15 or 10?
The ones you have, although trying to unlock the next orange/green/purple is pretty helpful for you. definetelly get that bubble 17 as it boosts other bubbles like cost reduction. Speaking of your cost reduction bubbles are level 1 too atm
lol it wont level your snail...
lol its not gonna give you free levels
Also remember, even with the atom you can still lvl 0 your snail
would there be a good way for me to afk someone for good money atm?
3 POP obols in 1 hour this is gonna take a while...
@quiet pewter you can
Any advice on how to kill King Doot? Or where to draft couple of people for the initial kill?
nah a fail on 10 gives you 10
Just keep pushing furthest map and afk there youβll get cash over time
I havent started doing w5 on anyone yet
A fail aint a reset, but someone posted screenshots on it the other day
I hit it and then started leveling peeps in w4 cause they are weaak
Or go back and focus on alch/stamps/gearing up and by the time you come back to push again youβll be making lots of cash
im not sure what you mean, but it should be impossible to go below a floor once you hit it
^^^^
thats my plan π
Ill try that Nyxon
with good food
also whoever mentioned unlokcking meals is that really better for me atm than cabages?
yes
otherwise youll jsut have infinite cabbage and no other meals ever
hmm okay
Apparently what someone said, is if the reset happens, then the "reset back to lvl 5" changes to the lower tier
well i thought the idea was getting all the cooking speed will unlock them faster later
along with cook whatever i needed faster
i think whoever said that was wrong
There was screenshots of their atom + snail
they maybe never hit past the floor
there is a bubble that give cooking speed for each meal you got to to lvl 11. so more meal = more speed
oh yeah im trying to unlock that bubble now
but my cabbage is only 7
so i was trying to get it to 11
its very slow
The snail atom works as intended
cant you unlock a new recipe in like a couple hours though?
check ie/it to see if one of the other speed meal could rank up faster
No it works every time
to clarify "as intended" if i have the atom protecting lvl 10 and i get to lvl 11. its impossible for me to ever go below 10 right?
Yeah
Snail UI showing lvl 10 snail reset back to 5
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Atom upgrade lvl 2, meaning failsafe would be level 10
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Other text:
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Or there was a misunderstanding
or simply lava code, being lava code
I only focused on the snail chat stuff starting here: #lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
Can some one help me either viodman I have lvl the cook skill to 100 and should get 3,8% per lvl and I have 90 lvls but get only 1%????
its an exponent, not a multi, so low % in the begining, enormous later
that skill is 1.0066^(total meal level) in your case
Oh ok⦠dmn
Just make sure to use IE or better toolbox, and level up the fastest to lvl up plates. It starts picking up when u have a few hundred levels.
will start to ramp up pass 450 total meal lvl
looks like some valid screenshots that show no issue, followd by AJ assuming some stuff with no screenshots?
IE or better tool box?
Should i get cabage to 11 first though? The bubble only helps if things are level 11 right?
if you have other +speed meal that can lvl faster than cabbage, those will be better than a diamond plate for which you dont have the bubble yet
Level 3 atom
He upgraded atom from 1 to 2 and then posted the picture without cloud saving
Toolbox a lot smoother for cooking stuff.
Stuff like that has to many variables.. Check toolbox to see how long it would take you
Does having levels below 11 do anything for me?
every level does something? 11+ is only for diamond chef bonus
I mean for cooking speed i guess
So I guess maybe its possible to get reset to the tier below if you attempt an upgrade without a cloud save but you could also just prevent that by cloud saving π€·ββοΈ
So yes getting 11's+ is beneficial, but i have no clue what your current lvl is, and how long it would take for 11 etc. thats why use toolbox
Didnt know u had to cloudsave for atoms to work, guess that must have been it
Fluoride is the same way
Oh i just unlocked diamond chef actually
You have to cloud save to get the cooking speed
Also rip me for leveling cooking atom twice yesterday then using 10k laddles without cloudsave xD
depend how many you have really
mmm not a ton
@zealous niche Based on the above here #lategame-chat-w5π-w6πΈ message
The stuff about snail seems to be "false", atoms to work just have to cloudsave first to make it count
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36 armor stones
everyone is pushing for keys now
so hopefully
gonna get my maestro there and use him to kill
oh damnit actually i have to get task points
to unlock chizoar
my dumb brain caant read that number correctly today XD can someone translate for dumbdumb
247 billion
Where is that number from? looks like 247b
anyone have the infinite salt chart?
w4 pins
exp from sock and thanks ahah the number i was reading was just not making any sens ahha
is there an expanded version of that? because i made the mistake of leveling nullo to lvl 10
dont know why i was reading it 247K million XD than i did that on a excel sheet and was la 2.47 E11 and aint no way i get that exp ahah
w4 pin
there's two pictures in the pin, including an expanded version
Good luck catching up your green/pink to 10 null lol
time to turn off your nullo for a while xD
tbf pink is used for very little
but you'll want it for construction
so it'll just be a case of "turn on when needed"
i overshot on blue. . .
doing good work on my way to vman ^^
hmm y'know. Maybe, just maybe, I should 20 book this talent...
might explains why my build rate has been trash forever lmao
Ddoes multikill affect crystal spawn chances? Imma start working on my maestro and it's dmg is dirt low
no
nop, physical kills
Awesome, thanks guys
Umm so is using these boxing gloves not just hindering my damage a ton?
The idea is aura kills really fast - faster than poison does. Gloves make you run up to mobs, which helps you spread aura
tbh at level 84 just use a wand
you don't have the talent points to utilise bubo properly
yeah realistically gloves aren't doing anything for you right this second
this is what my bubo looked like prior to w5 coming out, which is kinda what you're after
once you get stronger, aura and 200 tenteye for better skill cooldown come into play
nice
i think im really far from 200 skills though. need the 1k checkout and what for that?
pet battle?
Not bad
Thatβs better than anything I have, is that not a top tier captain?
got the goaat.. finnaly gonna fix my lab
Yea, tier 5
how high did you guys push the "rate" level on your liquids? i am at 135-145 for all three and im tired of leveling them lol
Im at 45π
After update game is crashing on my phone, anyone else?
stopped at 100 XD i dont see the necessity to push it further cause if i want liquid ill jsut active bubo a little and ill be full
worth?
did people answer you ?
For me its 200% worth it
half my captains are doodoo and the other half needs improvement
k then imma buy it
No idea, just answer them again like i just did.
Better than 95% of my captains wtf
oh i see
Didn't know if you were asking because you also wanted the answer
is these a bug? i got 5 logs in a day and the chance for no cd is like 10% now
what increases tenteyecle level cap? I'm at 145
ok so its 6 now wierd af
95 at what level?
Shouldnβt the contest be 500 bottles or 20k gems
6 10% rolls in a row is unlikely but not implausibly small
books you Sherlock
my book cap is 155
don't think of it as being lucky
think of it as using all your luck on this instead of something good
is that an other multiplier than GT and there fore worth using
my luck is infinite so im not worry about it honestly

best map for cranium cooking? I want something with lots of enemies and high respawn right?
Y'all think divinity will be balloonable once world 6 comes out
ISTG if any of the next winners take 5000 gems over 500 bottles...
what do you mean?
Since you can't balloon lab iirc, I doubt we will for div
What is 95?
i meant the captain he has available is better than most of the captains i have (at base level)
@stoic crow just confused because u can use divinity pearls on lab but not for divinity
Base lvl 95?
Pearls probably will work, but not balloons
The latest world cannot be skipped
^this
Lab wasnβt able to be skipped when w4 was highest
Only restricted right now due to goat interaction with div
Otherwise you could whack people in lab and candy/balloon div up too which is not wanted
Balloons don't work on lab because it's exp req are very low compared to how much exp balloons give.
whats the best thing to buy in the gem shop for world 5?
gold sprinkler
whats the command for gem chart?
Sighβ¦ rolled the dice on snail and lost π’ should of waited for my atom collider. Level 13 to 0 in a flash
!gemchart
!gemshop
Thatβs the old one
ye w5 isnt in there
he did it again
Thank god for the ram in those situations, makes it a lot easier to transfer the overflow
what's "DK" in the obols at the bottom of this
real
DK stands for divine knight, elite classe of the squire
Can infinite starsigns hit Hyron also?
Literally canβt keep up with the amount of obols he drops
Yes
Sick, i've just gotten some Stach shinies and Chronus is all done.
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1099088196027027606 awesome, smash out the rest now
yeah im targeting the stars signs first for a bit. Gmush is at Lv 5 for the boost.
Still unlocking all the pets from Bop box onwards
I found Idleon toolbox to be incredibly helpful in figuring out who has done what constellation fyi
does world 5 have its own music?
Yeah i love toolbox and IE both. Toolbox is great for meals and SChow tracking
Best pattern to buy the islands?
Trash-Shimmer-SeaSalt for the first three
At lest thats what I've seen repeatedly
Yeah that comes up most often
Potentially sea salt 2nd if you need the fishing levels IIRC
The last quest requires fish from seasalt to complete anyway (Lv90)
Have a great day, see you guys later on
do the island bottles reset at personal reset time each day?
Yes it does
Given we now know how the Shimmer buffs scale (badly), I'd put Seasalt second instead
https://i.imgur.com/EkoK1Og.png 10.48x dr and still no knuckles.. Should I wait for more dr or keep going?
hmm I thought image would just automatically display. For those who don't want to click I'm up to 120m suggma kills :/
Oh really? I didn't know that
what's a good dr nowadays anyway? I'm guessing I'm still low compared to others
Late / endgame is 22x +
With bundle im assuming
where can you see (in game), effect of buying bundle for permanent gains?
Nowhere, to my knowledge. It's just calculated into drop rate on the character cheet
I bought the bundle for the tag and the gems but didn't even notice what the drop rate gain was supposed to be
What is the best way to get that last plant evolution? using the rock? I've been on evo 4 on 7 of my plants for a few days now with no change. I have the potential for 6 evos just haven't gotten there yet
I literally just went away for 5 days with rock on, and 2 of each plant at evo 4 when I left. Came back, collected on everyone and checked on everyone, and not 1 hit evo 6. I imagine it's just time and amping up the evolution chance with time
at some point you will get evo 5 now and then just randomly but evo 6 plants still take way way too much and evo chance seems to hard cap at 20% chance before it gets impossible to even get more cause levels cost too much and give nothing back
I am at the 20%.... So it seams the rock on is the best chance then?
rock and increasing the base time lower bonus for cycles
with extremely high rock and high base time bonus you can get the times down to around 2 or 3 mins per cycle
and each cycle is an attempt for plants to evo
ok, so 37.1 minute growth cycle is too slow then
no
7.9 with rock on
i have 22.3 min cycles wihtout rock active and im not that high due to being stuck for way too long with a bad nugget
what is your nugget?
yeah nugget is a massive massive roadblock untill you get snail
whats the first divinity?
there is no chance of me getting snail where I'm at so I thought I'd work on my log book
Snehebatu
ow ok
keep pushign and hopefully you will get a good nugget soon to keep progressing
i got a question king doot if you have him do you ever need to link a divinity?
no
ok
but you do need to level up your chars divinity levels
i was very lucky i got him very early
that is lucky and gratz to you
it will be one hell of a good boost for you
chars need divinity level to be at least 2 to actualy make doot work tough
and while you do get the mayor divinity link bonus i believe you do have to unlock the gods to be able to level up the blessing and you need to level up divinity to level up the minor link bonus
Is a good grind. Nugget I'm stuck under 15k lmao since begging
Is so sad I have snail still bad nugget hahahaa
That is crazy to me that you had enough bits for snail
2B bits takes days, can't imagine aving 600b
What's best move for spending on Trash Island.
I've got 2x in % trash boost. Wondering on third.
Grab it until it's more expensive than the next Che at item I think is 20. So when the more trash item is 21 upgrade it again until the next other big item.
Saw a video on it seems to be working good with getting lots of trash and unlocking stuff
I'm finding bubo is fast for me active
i think im not strong enough for bubo i have just 500k-1.4m damage
then whatever you used in w4
i used divine knight
bubo dk and es are the best ones as long as you have enough dmg to push
maybe blood berserker is stronger? becaus of portal open skill?
might just put afk barb for pushing and use active for things like crystal or mob drop spawns
bubo dk and es spawn mechanics makes them much faster to open up portals than bb
active is more for crystal exp and drops depending on wha tyou need
full pushing is somewhat better to just do afk with most chars
mh ok im fresh w5 so i dont think im rdy for crystal thinks etc i have all chars in divinity except pusher
when to start crystal farming?
1/ 100 or less with choco
1/75 or less without choco
Does anyone have a saved copy of that breeding skill guide? I just went to reference the original and it was taken down in protest.
There is a ripped version of the old guide- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Thanks, man.
Shimmer island star talent book worth it to max?
if you have it yes
Feels like such a tiny boost per talent point π
4% ish all stats is still nice
True
what you mean with choco``
It means you dont have it, but choco chip from lab
It's the 'some crystals spawn new crystal' thing
ya ok thanks i work for it first
4% all stats for me would mean ~500 main stats
snelbies or bloodbones for obol frags?
Ive heard bloodbones since they drop like candy, but that is super active with fragging obols comstantly
I like w2 cause there is a little time in between fragging
cool, thank you
How do you get trash more than once a day for the trash fish?
I havent played the new update much but i thought it was once at daily reset
Might be something with random events too
if all you want is obol frags w2 crystal mobs are the best since they can drop gold luck and silver dice so you can frag a lot of obols from them
part of the bribes from trash island is to get random events to drop trash but untill you can get that, its just once a day
It will be lower than that. Only base stats are increased not total stats
stats from the bubbles are not affected by % stats so a large chunk of ppl stats dont really get a bonus
and a few other osurces are total stats so again not affected by % stat bonuses
Plus if you look at your character stats thats also factoring in other % stat sources which this would be additive with
yeah, this game is rather hard to actualy guge which bonuses are the real MVPs and which ones are just.... trash dump slots
My talent says its giving me 4.3% when in reality I got a little over 500 stats on a DK with nearly 34k strength which is a little under 2% increase to stats
not even 2%
and while %stat bonuses are few and far between the fact that a lot of ppl actual stats are total stats makes it rather underwhelming
uhhh another free nametag nice
summer event incoming
Mr Blueberry card 
need giftmas card 
do i need to increase my divinity to link with a 2nd god?
just got nobisect and trying to plan my labs and gods
you can only link to 2nd god with ES
well biscuits, guess i better pray i can pull a king doot next free reset then
can anyone think of a reason why my dmg drops from 7 mil down to 4 mil when i enter the cheese nubs map? its the only map that I have decreased damage in the entire game
i see, i will look over the pins then. my lab levels are pretty low and also trying to level up divinity so i feel a bit spread thin
every map up to cheese nubs, didnt check rift. and its on my DK. I havnt checked other characters for it
thats it... thank you! my acc is too low
is there a link to how you are supposed to set up your divinity links? Just got elephant and i think i should have 1 guy linked there?
quick fix with a card swap, thank you
are all gaming multiplers additive? so like the bonus from nugget add to the bonus from DK talent?
!gemshop
gaming bonuses to bits are mostly individual to each other
This is better 
So how am I supposed to figure out if I have exactly 100M mongo wurm slices in my bank
... correct me if im wrong but, wouldnt it read as 100M
yeah toolbox is very usefull for that one
seasalt island have better fishing exp?
best fishing exp you will ever get
my vman went from 1.3M on the dock to 32m on the island
best fishing, is fishing
and no i dont even have full eff to get the full scope of fish in the new spots
i need to get fishing lvl to 90
How are the new fish vards?
ok, so I'll go for it as third island
yeah the current best island unlocking patterns feels like: trash, shimer/seasalt (interchange depending on what you want first either is good), fractal/crystal (again interchangable depeding on what you want), random last
my skin is falling off
new fishing spots are really good i got a very nice 30x increase to my exp
sorry meant cards*
if it sjust skin peeling you are good, if you are also burnt enough that it hurts, get some treatment
no idea i wont get cards untill tomorrow when i claim the afk xDD
but im guessing they are good or at least decent
having some "water scars" aswell
The cards are really nice especially if you get the passive from rift bonus
I put off sampling for too long lol
my vacation litterly killed me π
was 7 days in alanya, turkey
spent 4 days, inside, cause of burn
I suspect summer event so be this weekend
There is no efficiency for divinity. Just sit your chars at the altar or lab with the goat god. As you level you unlock styles which gives more xp and or divinity points.
question about sailing. so u know when u have max stored chests, the next few ships can be claimed as gold. what if i just open all the chests first, do the ships that had an oportunity to be changed to gold are cleared to leave and get more chetss right? there relinquishing their current haul so if i didnt sell it first they loose it
im deep into sailing.. just decided to get clarification xD
ill wait for someone that knows what im talking about i hope
so i dont spread false info
pretty sure u are misinformed sprinkler
i dont think such a person will exist
u guys dont understand maybe
i will wait until my ships are full and ask again with picture
I dont get it you are talking about having ships stockpile without the upgrade skill but also talking about chests upgrading ... they cant do both
the queued ships are just regular ships. if you have 20 ships and the SB talent off, you will get 40 claims to click through
If you are refering to this then that just means they have cargo
yeah babbby
so ill restate my question
if i dont sell the gold pile, will it be deleted ? if i start openening my chests i notice they dissapear
and i dont get to sell them
do they sell by themselves?
thats because you made room for them to drop off the cargo
or are they lost
the gold icon on top of ship means they have a chest
yeah i know
when u claim chest it automatically puts the chest into the lootpile
I think that icon means that your chest are full
yes

ill keep an eye. maybe i click too fast lmao
thats why ppl dont use sb talent because u get extra claims
as i said at the start: "the queued ships are just regular ships. if you have 20 ships and the SB talent off, you will get 40 claims to click through"
i was all like am i supposed to sell them or are they selling by themselves. but your saying it goes into chest pile
thats what im trying to do
Next time click only one and watch the number wont change because a ship holding a chest now dropped it off and disappeared
Is there any point to the dps dude on shimmer island or is it just for fun?
there is a trial that counts dps and star talent
you get bonuses based on your max ever DPS
Where do you see those bonuses?
pretty sure the only bonuses u can get from dps dude is this star talent
unless crystalnemu knows something i dont
sooo am i suppose to just pray and get lucky for the lucky harvest achievement ( 777 in gaming) or is there a method idk of?
u can talent reset ur dk and try to line up the bits gained from t1 plant so that it gives 777 bits
u can also upgrade conch as a way to try and manipulate it as well
yeah, wish a display of just 7 worked cause as of rn, my t1 plant give 10 green bits
if thats all there is for it then that seems rather... dissapointing
one of the shimmer quests it probably dps
ye someone posted a trial with dps with warrior class or something
i dont remember quite well
but yeah only star talent afaik
that gives bonuses
you can maybe try and play around with it
its really hard to get 777 naturally
yeah, the biggest way but also incredibly rng based, would be evergreen orrrrr i try to figure out what my exact mltiplier is on my bits earned
Can someone give me a suggestion on what to work on?
I'm building up my sample capacity for wood (books going there)
i had a quick look, everything looks fien to me, you can knock off early for a beer
i would suggest just doing progressing regularly and if u notice u are clsoe to 777 then try and play around with the talent and see if u can get there
actually looks like your overdue for a re-sample 55 days ?? @obtuse apex
That's what I'm meta-working toward
i dont know what that means, but you should probably resample
I calculated my resample and it would not increase more than the multiplier
with your alchemy you should be way higher than your current samples
i like using atoms to get wyoming blood to atomable levels
sorry not wyoming blood, carpenter, the one that gives build speed per cons level
multiplier will cap out eventually, so youll need to reset it sometime. ive never had a resample that didnt beat my multiplier
do you have the big value from relics?
eldritch
you also have a bunch of vials you can cap out
which ones?
a lot of the monster mats one are easy to do on ES
you could also spend some time bumping up skilling to get more printer output
is this still correct?
Yes
someone was trying to get me to get a 2nd bb.. but i remembered this
if you have doot you could debate the 2 ES, but otherwise yeah
phew
Even still 2 es has more log prints
2nd BB is.. argueable, but its a very poor arguement
Yeah some ppl who don't k ow what they're talking abt say 2 bb
don't do 2 BB
shouldnt be very diffrent from 2 bc?
it's absolutely terrible
2 bb is trash
I have 2 bb
Yeah but prints are prints so even a small difference is good
maybe. main reason 2 ES was meta was because extra god. if someone has doot, i wouldnt be too bothered if they ran 2 Bc instead
Ye ik but the prints are just an extra bonus
2 bb is pretty annoying
got it thanks all!
Oh wait you wouldn't get extra prints bc everyone has nobi+snehebatu
Damn my DK got 100 pens last night. in the 10 hours i was at work all i got was 40. bleh
Which skilling?
?
Catching and fishing?
is that worth it?
that's not capped by the 90% thing right?
it's a pain up till the new island
maybe with the new island you can get 750 fishing
I'll smash fishing then, yes
but chopping/mining are very easy
oh man.. i got 6 trash today.. ROLLIN in it
anyone know if new rings are worth using when sampling fish?
Been using the shovel for about a week, is this a good nugget?
Bruh
good for a week π
I've been using it for like 2 months now and u have a higher nugget than me
Nuggets are all RNG, some people get 25k first day, some cant get it in the first year
Didn't know it was that rng lol
For first week that's amazing
if you are missing out on a 'year' here, it's almost surely that you aren't rolling enough
I was at 32 xD
2mish difference between rex ring and new ring
scaled efficiency just additive after everything is accounted for?
aka trash efficency
Scaled efficiency is pretty strong
Scaled efficiency converts to a varying amount of base efficiency depending on how much efficiency you already have in a given skill but the formula has a minimum value you cant go below no matter how much efficiency you have
And at that minimum you get the equivalent of 1 multitool level for every four levels of the nobisect blessing up to 25 multitool levels at max which is nothing to scoff at
multitool being like chopping/mining/etc power?
Yeah its generic skill efficiency and its very good
Its stamp
Multitool is arguably the best stamp in the game
with rift 6 autocollecting traps
is the meta to put 24 hr traps
and should I be placing them all on each character or still just my bm?
there are no 24 hr traps to scrap that
whats the best way to min max this
closest youll get is 20 hour i think, though i am far from an expert
so.... the 'meta' that I hear is if lazy: 40 hours better, if active: 20 is better
best trap is the lowest time y oua re willing to collect
is the rift thing sort of irrelevant then
no
caus ei assume i have to log in for it to autocollect
yeah so it sort of is just qol for not having to press eagle eye?
worse than that
it will collect on log in when you collect stamps
you know on reset?
ye true if i ever forget
sort of in my daily to do list though
but alright cheers
would be a lot more relevant if it could proc without logging in
but idk if thats possible
Yeah with DK orb you can get multiple statues per drop and the extra amount increases with your DR
quick question when i use the fibers of absence prayer my kph in the afk info becomes less should i use it or not??
trying to farm death note for vman quest
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Mk will outscale kpk prayer, and cause kpk prayer reduces mk due to not hitting some tiers hence, ppl reccomend dont use em together or most of the time mk prater will be better
To add, only real use for kpk prayer is when u cannot hit any mk tiers
i need deathnote kills what class is best i can active or afk
Probably active bubo
I am fishing 85. 2m xp per hour. how much candy would it take to get vman to 90? would it be worth it?
If you do get crystal countdown first to suck up ~80% of the exp needed, not sure on how much candy tho could just do math on req/2m and that will tell you
Why does bro have so much candy
good question. im a hoarder lol.
my crystal countdown only knocks off 70, but that is what i am doing each level.
You should be getting more exp
feels like i should be. not sure what i am missing.
Use event food
this is all i have. only 100. wanted to save for when i do printer sample
Nonono you only use 1
Dont use food homie
if youre getting 90 for the omar quest, you need fish from seasalt island to finish it, so i would save your candy if thats what youre going for
https://zmakqo.idleonefficiency.com what am i missing to push my fish xp higher? not i am farming crystals right now so the gear/cards/talents may look off.
thats what i wanted to do. what is worth using the candy on then? not sure what is worth pushing. all my guys are just sitting in divinity except vman fishing and ES pushing through w5 worms. not sure what would make a material improvement in my progress.
the quest that u are trying to get to by reaching lvl 90 requires fish from seasalt island to even complete
yeah, i get that. just not sure what to accelerate then. i have thousands of hours of candy available.
so if you dont have that island unlocked there is no point trying to get to 90
i would suggest just waiting until u unlock seasalt island and then lvling fishing to 90
seasalt will skyrocket ur fishing xp to like 100m or something
and then u only need a tiny bit of candy to push to 90
Thanks, makes sense. So, what do i do for the next ~week while i wait for bottles?
guys do you think 100k kills on gmush with x4 lab/divinity +prayer is enough to start vman quest
100k kills per hour afk*
Huh
save them for eclipse skulls
What are eclipse skulls? the deathnote ones?
yes
unlocked at rift 21 i think
use your 1hr and 2hr candies on your SB for forge
like, i guess im asking if that would be an inefficient use of time, at that kph. i have almost 1m on all w1, but w2 and w3 is pretty low killnote
ideally you have higher kph but you only need 12m one time to unlock vman which is a very strong account bonus
OK, im rift 30 or so, i havent gotten any of those skulls yet. guess ill candy some gmush with SB then.
i think the brunt of my time will be getting 1m on everything from w1-3
i just got the kills per tier bubble in alchemy, and it wiped all my blue powder to get it to 27
I hope you used discount tags..
can u time candie divinity?

