lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[hot prawn]

Is the snail a big game changer for gaming?

[dapper prism]

you already claimed it. so.. you got your reward, cant get or change your reward again?

[dapper prism]

big? it's huge, like.. extremely huge, the best and worst upgrade ever as it can also set you back weeks if it resets xD

[pure spindle]

Figured it may just raise your best and allow a new claim (e.g. 1 more shimmer because you hit 10)

[hot prawn]

Like how big of a multiplier is it?

[pure spindle]

Hopefully i didnt lose out on many lol

[royal sierra]

this is so painful
now to wait another week to get a 4th sand pot or frog

[dapper prism]

Snail is a direct multiplier on your multi. every level up on snail is 2x the previous. So 2x, 4x, 8x, 16x, 32x 64, 128, 256 etc.
With every chance of upgrading u have a chance to fail, and with a fail there's a chance to reset it back to lvl 1. There is a new atom that was added few weeks back that is a failsafe, at level 5/10/15 etc. but if you're very unlucky you can still get wrecked

[hot prawn]

@royal sierra at least you got the good ones lol

[royal sierra]

the sheep? ye, was the first one I got

[hot prawn]

@dapper prism damn that's crazy. I don't know if I want to save for weeks though, would it be faster if I put plenty into raising my base bits?

[finite cosmos]

how far do you guys upgrade genes before you try for the next pet in breeding

[dapper prism]

You only save for unlocks when it takes you a few days.
Also snail only gives 1 ticket a day (+% chance for an extra ticket based on snail mutation level), so initially it will take 3 days to even unlock the 2x, then another 3 days to get 4x etc

[royal sierra]

as far as I can

gave up on breeding though, already got all the pets I need for foraging

I think

[dapper prism]

Shiny pets op though

Genes i barely did 10-20k gene cost

[royal sierra]

ye I'm still going for shinys

[dapper prism]

Then just let eggs level up

[royal sierra]

just not unlocking new pets

[hot prawn]

@royal sierra I have been saving balls for weeks so I can get that pot for the 25 gold bonus. But if Lava resets the rotation again, bye bye drop rate

[royal sierra]

ohh
ye sand pot is nice

[dapper prism]

what 25 gold bonus?

[royal sierra]

wish I got the one I'm missing though, don't remember what it is but It gives 20% skill exp or something
not that I care much about it, I just want to at least have the 4 basic ones lmao

[hot prawn]

Oh yeah two months. But I really want that sheep too. Those bubbles would really help

[royal sierra]

sand pot gives 25% gold arcade ball bonus iirc

[dapper prism]

huh? was it changed?

[royal sierra]

🤨

[dapper prism]

Sandy pot is +15 stats

[royal sierra]

huh

let me check

[dapper prism]

Oh slime is balls

[royal sierra]

oh

[hot prawn]

Oh

Still, at least you have 4 different kinds of pets. I still have only three...

[royal sierra]

[royal warren]

what is the best skilling armor now? Just magma because of the stats? Or do you need to sprinkle in the skill specific boots/pants too?

[hollow wasp]

is it worth farming silver pens and dice obols like that?

with chocolatey chip ofc

[runic girder]

You can definitally make a start

Try to get crystal chance up though

[hollow wasp]

ye i have active idle my ES on poop rn with max card drop chance

[runic girder]

And your genie?

[hollow wasp]

is on 1 star aswell.

[runic girder]

Try and get that next

[hollow wasp]

yey after poop

[runic girder]

Do you have the PO box and star talent maxed?

[hollow wasp]

i dont evven have that star talent

[runic girder]

??

[hollow wasp]

and no PO box no, i wanna get Silver pens thats why i need crystal spawn chance

[runic girder]

You dont have the star talent giving crystal chance?

[hollow wasp]

oh

that

i have 100

ye

was thinking about card star talent

[runic girder]

Oowh no

Only thing you could work on more then rn is the stamp

Youre on a good path, just use your boxes on the drop rate box as it gives the crystal chance and keep farming the cards

[amber dragon]

is it the good one?

[runic girder]

This is

[worldly bluff]

What's the best Active class for Obol hunting?

[olive kestrel]

ES for pop, DK for everything else

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/faf4a6471d8150934ef178472b7b0fb4.png

nearly free

[worldly bluff]

Because of the map is why not to use Dk on POP?

[olive kestrel]

DK is better for things in rare drop tables, ES better for rare drops not in rare tables, pop obol isnt in the rare tables

[runic girder]

Most obols are from crystal, pops are normal giga frog drop table

[worldly bluff]

Ohhhh, I understand. Thank you~~~

[runic girder]

And ES sucks at crystals

[olive kestrel]

obols still drop from reg mobs just a bit more rare

[runic girder]

True but you mainly farm crystals for them

[zinc torrent]

what class generally has the highest accuracy?

[restive aspen]

The beginner class chain followed by archers usually with Bowman/Siege Breaker being the one with a lot of accuracy.

But your beginner classes (journeyman, maestro and voidwalker) will always have the most accuracy since luck is both your damage and accuracy

[zinc torrent]

ok thanks. what about the shimmers. what is a good spot to spend them?

[tacit tulip]

rip tony

[fast grail]

Damage is new multi iirc

[worldly bane]

snake god is good for setting new prints with the afk gains?

[untold saffron]

the best

[worldly bane]

oo id have to break double stamp bonus tho for it by unlinking bear

[untold saffron]

throw someone you're not sampling on in the lab

[tacit tulip]

the main reason I'd ever want doot is to not mess around in order to sample

[signal osprey]

It is finally over. The sampling is complete

[worldly bane]

currently running all but one on bear atm. and the one i'd replace wouldn't have enough length. kinda just barely made it to stamps while divintiy grinding :/

[untold saffron]

even sheepie + infi star signs are such a nice qol for sampling

[signal osprey]

Infinite star signs dont give any QoL for sampling at all because you still need to set them with your doubler

[untold saffron]

as someone without a star sign doubler for every character it helps tremendously

[signal osprey]

But if you're sampling properly you would swap the doubler to each character as you sample them so not having one for everyone doesnt matter

[untold saffron]

but when I'm not using it i can leave their star signs on the sampling loadout

without any loss

[thin rose]

Sounds like a lot of effort without quickref chips (please soon)

[uncut bear]

Kitsune import is for playing active i guess?

[untold saffron]

yeye

checking every 2-4 hours

speaking of sampling though I need to go sample the new fish now my BB is 425

[icy jewel]

am i doing something wrong with mantra + lab using goat?

i check in once per hour and everyone still only gets 1 divinity xp per hour

[modern plaza]

it’s best for pushing plants evos

[potent gust]

Okay so

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[paper sail]

!mantra

[obtuse orbit]

Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.

In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.

(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)

[modern plaza]

“make sure mantra is working” lol 😂 it just works

[icy jewel]

omg thank you how absolutely confusing

jesus

[dapper prism]

Mantra just usually feels so bad to use, especially since it doesnt get affected by double xp claim

[icy jewel]

so basically everyones just gonna be fully staggered depending who i log into first every time

nice.

one other dumb ueestion

how do i make sure my bubo has everyone in lab on the left for xp gain

[dapper prism]

You move him to the far right in the mainframe UI

[icy jewel]

i just straight up blew through world 4, so im back trying to get lab up everyones only like level 12. got goat in w5, thats why im back in the lab

i rushed to 5

[dapper prism]

Yeh that's normal

[icy jewel]

thats how that works?! omg thanks!

much simpler

[dapper prism]

Rushing through most worlds then backtracking is usually the most beneficial

[icy jewel]

yeah im like half wy thru 5 rn, but gotta catch up breeding, cooking, sailing stuff gaming. alchemy

damage is low as piss lol

[dapper prism]

Be sure to do your daily CC's on bubo

[icy jewel]

yep yep

[sharp igloo]

Im trying to atom my talent point bubble so I dont have to swap between active bubo and chopping but I dont think Ill have enough star talents. Is there a way to get more star talent points other than leveling up?

[icy jewel]

havent unlocked all w5 bubbles yet.... even trying to get luck up the % odds are only like 2.9%

[dapper prism]

Focus on brew speed and 2x first for efficiency then, when you do enough cc's the luck doesnt matter as much

[sharp igloo]

If you dont play active on your bubo, you should also try that. I got more alchemy brew time in 1 day of that than I had in months of afk play

[icy jewel]

never tried that

interesting

[sharp igloo]

Definitely a game changer. You will also see your money skyrocket. I get like 100x more money playing active

[icy jewel]

yeah but where do you get that i thought it was only from cranium cooking

tbh i kinda ignored my bubo 100% lol

[barren otter]

@dapper prism i got 4 trash again today

lmfao

[deft grail]

Your toons are just far more efficient at killing active vs afk, plus you get 20x money from each crystal mob kll @icy jewel

[icy jewel]

oh so he was just talking about money not alchemy speed outside cranium

i got confused

[sharp igloo]

Honestly not totally sure why you get so much more money active lol. I think DR effects it. But you wanna focus mainly on the skills circled in green to unlock more bubbles. The ones circled in blue are good too though

[deft grail]

it's both

[icy jewel]

for real?! i didnt even know that

[sharp igloo]

I set up my bar like this and use stingers for faster kills

[dapper prism]

Because you get a ton more kills online than offline

My bar:
https://i.imgur.com/CtyMTn6.png

[sharp igloo]

Oh yeah that makes sense cause of the respawn hand skill

[dapper prism]

Not sure why you wouldnt put rezz first?!

[signal osprey]

Its because crystals. Crystal mobs have a big money and exp multiplier

[dapper prism]

30x afaik

[sharp igloo]

I dont use the last poison skill, since fart fills the whole map with poison anyway, so not using poison lets you proc aura and respawn more often

[deft grail]

Your Bubo basically wipes the whole map and then respawns them within a second. Add in Crystal respawn chance and Chocolately Chip and they print money at rate no AFK gains can ever hold a candle to

[icy jewel]

weird you get free alchemy boost though

i wouldve never guessed

yeah mine dont respawn that fast yet.. and chocolate chip aint till december sadly

[tacit tulip]

CCdoesn't really need to be first, Tent applies to every skill and you'll cast it pretty quickly even if it's not at the front

You lose a few seconds at most, but it IS still time lost

[dapper prism]

Doesnt matter, if it's not needed the cast bar doesnt reach it anyways really, but main thing is i used to use it to setup the world before doing CC

[stray valve]

@signal osprey i thought your name said TheConstruct

[sharp igloo]

Its because youre killing so much that tentacle resets the cranium cooking timer and lets you use it like every 15 minutes

[deft grail]

Well that's from his active skill Cranium Cooking, on top of that money gains that skill can produce hours if not days of alchemy progress

[dapper prism]

That's an extra GCD wasted on aura b2b maybe instead of rezz though, that happening a lot of times seems a bit meh

[sharp igloo]

Yeah Ill use it to setup if im just doing 1 CC, but if I leave him on all day I take it off

[icy jewel]

omg it all just clicked for me lol thanks yall

this game has so many minor nuances in it

id never know if i didnt ask

[deft grail]

blessing and a curse

[icy jewel]

yeah no shit

[sharp igloo]

Lol right? I just figured that out like a month ago

[foggy briar]

If I have Doot, is it still worth having 2 ES?

[deft grail]

minor nuances work against the player in many cases too

[icy jewel]

im honestly happy i got a sheep pet. dont have to worry about assigning big alcchemy bubbles

used to forget that all the time

[stray valve]

and also thought that this guy pfp had Jesus lmao

[icy jewel]

nah, its a hockey player lmfao

[tacit tulip]

ES is probably still better overall due to the MK talent

[signal osprey]

Yeqh ES is a better afk mob killer than bubo and you get extra worship charge. Second bubo doesn't really do anything

[foggy briar]

but what about exchanging second ES for a BB?

[deft grail]

I'm very morally against the Gacha system... I deleted my free sheepie in protest

Guess I'll never see bubbles or divinity become passive

[foggy briar]

Not possible on an old account, but if you were planning to get doot

[signal osprey]

Second BB doesn't do anything

[dapper prism]

Good for you, but also doubt anyone cares xD

[coral goblet]

Second vman 👀

[deft grail]

I play this game with my gf and I didn't think it was fair for either of us to hit a pet for such huge bonuses wile the other doesn't get any

[dapper prism]

3d print go brrrrghhh

[coral goblet]

brrrrrrrrrrrr

[signal osprey]

Unironically i would prefer second vman over my second BB

Second vman is pretty strong

[coral goblet]

Those prints would go hard

[sharp igloo]

What is vman good at printing?

Or just from the talent?

[signal osprey]

He prints mob mats but its the printer go brrr talent that makes him strong

[deft grail]

He prints monster drops really well

[dapper prism]

It would also be nice for hourly bubbles, using vman 3d print chains to get a bunch of stuff in

[deft grail]

I got 16x Brrr procs the other day

[sharp igloo]

I always get like 0-4 lol

[coral goblet]

Yeah would get Hella bubbles everyday

Not to mention you could very easily split up tab 4 talents

And have all or almost all maxxed

[glossy rain]

You think i shoul wait for t6 after tree t5 or rather grind out snail? I have 7,5 mins waitint time with stone

[coral goblet]

Snail is big time and start getting daily snail mail vs a multiplier

[signal osprey]

At 7 minutes getting T6 plants will be really hard

[coral goblet]

Really depends on how close you are to snail

[stray valve]

gaming sucks

[gray gorge]

Quick q. My main char is Lvl 380 (bubo) and the rest are average Lvl 225. Bubo's min damage is 600mill and max is 1100 mil. Is this average or on the low end?

[glossy rain]

So snail it is alrght... i can prob reach it in 10 days or so if i start now

[worldly bluff]

get 10b max damage and then we'll talk

[icy jewel]

so for cranium then i assume go to a place that you get the highest kills per hour?

[worldly bluff]

oranges and wurms are best for W5 if you can one shot

[icy jewel]

nope --- rushed to w5. sitting at 20 m max currently

its only level like 120

[worldly bluff]

then cans in w4 work

[icy jewel]

kk

[deft grail]

it's all relative to your account progress. there's not really an "average" tbh, altough if you neglect subsystems like alchemy and stamps then you might be underdamaged for clearing W5 maps

[icy jewel]

oh i know this. rushing to w5 i barely broke a million after back tracking went up to 20 in like 2 weeks

[worldly bluff]

incorrect. the answer is always 10b

[icy jewel]

thats 100% im sure he can beat the game with 1.1 billion easy

but most us end gamers really like to push limits 🙂

[deft grail]

meh, i disagree

[signal osprey]

1.1b won't have multilill on half of W5

[icy jewel]

oof interesting

[signal osprey]

You could do it but it'd be so slow

[icy jewel]

that aint enough then

multikill too good

[worldly bluff]

you disagree because you can never imagine 10b damage

[deft grail]

Okay dude lol

[signal osprey]

What is significant about 10b damage?

[deft grail]

Don't be terse with your answer and refuse to elaborate, that's stupid and unhelpful

[worldly bluff]

10b is a cool number that deserves more love.

[deft grail]

Kk confirmed troll - blocking

[worldly bluff]

How?

I just said you should try and get 10b power. Nothing I said was false.

[deft grail]

A general rule of thumb is if you can get the first tier of Multikill on the highest map you've pushed, you're in decent shape

But remember that some people have had compounding bonuses to their accounts due to the time they've been playing, so take certain answers of average (like 10b full stop) with a grain of salt

[worldly bluff]

True. I've been playing for several years now.

[grave carbon]

My main is around 525, and my damage sucks because I neglected sub systems so long. I still cleared just about everything except the last couple rifts, but it wasn’t efficient.

[noble mesa]

The lasts rift r hard

[worldly bluff]

your dogs ears are so cute

[noble mesa]

Lol tnx

I will tell her

[worldly bluff]

i appreciate it

[gray gorge]

Damn. Im in Oranges rn. The first tier of multikill is 1.6Bil dps. lol. Okay thanks I appreciate that. So I am on the low end of things.

[deft grail]

If you're already at 1.1b you're really not far off, you'd be surprised at which sources wll balloon your damage with a little time spent focusing on them

I shouldnt say balloon lol but like 1.5x or 2x - talent max levels, sailing, targetting a stamp

[icy jewel]

do the mutations on gaming just suck ass or what

in terms of unlocking them

[sacred monolith]

Is magma gear considered better than Kattlekruk gear?

[deft grail]

The armor - yes

[paper sail]

Situational

[deft grail]

Well, there are use cases for Kattlekruk but they're more of a sidegrade

I wonder if Lava can add more than two Misc stats to gear, surely he recognizes that losing out on stats you had on the previous tier isn't very fun

Surely...

[sacred monolith]

Yeah I meant the armor. I had seen it discussed before and I'm at the point of having magma on everyone for a bit now. Didn't know if I should hold off on upgrading it.

[paper sail]

DK can use the DR helm and boots.
SB, BB during Super CHOW, anyone else AFK farming Deathnote likes the Respawn shirt and pants.
Worship, trap setting, and Skill samplers still want plain Magma.
Bubo still wants all Magma for %stat scaling their Money gains

[fast grail]

To get to rift 50, it’s about a 1T damage requirement

[uncut bear]

I am at 50 Million 🙄

[signal osprey]

50 also doesn't do anything yet though thats just unlocking it for the future

120b is all you need to unlock all current bonuses

[fading dust]

When is Lava releasing the summer event? 👀

[signal osprey]

He never gave a date or anything. Just said it would be the next update

[fading dust]

Op he drops updates every two/three weeks right

[tacit tulip]

yeah but "soon lol" is a fun answer

[zealous niche]

Pretty sure this is the exact reason Lava included it in the emoji set

[pearl rover]

Do we think its worth it to use nearly every candy to get enough Lugi Brackets for the Silkrode Nanochip?

[barren otter]

yes

[stray valve]

i don't know what you talking about its weekly updates

[rugged thistle]

question when this says double it means 4x sigil effects?

and the triple would be 6x?

[signal osprey]

No it goes 2x, 3x, and 4x

[grizzled elk]

I think i remember people saying the base bonus is more like x1 extra, so doubled is 3x and tripled is 4x

[signal osprey]

Lava likes to word things and code things differently

[grizzled elk]

that looks weird but it makes sense in my head lol sorry

[signal osprey]

The description says 2x but the bonus gives 100% which is the same

But when you double them to 4x and 200% now they arent the same

[shy flame]

Is there anything big to know for kattlekruk

[deft grail]

kill adds if it doesn't die within a few seconds

otherwise it's the easiest boss fight to date

[exotic juniper]

im so sad lol

[grizzled elk]

easier for chars with aoe, little more difficult for chars without

adds spawn on both sides that walk towards him and heal him

[haughty sedge]

10/10

[shy flame]

Thanks y'all, just did it for the first time on barbarian and couldn't believe it was as simple as me just outdamaging the healing

[paper sail]

Mechanics are for cars. Beep beep

[crystal socket]

from lv 15 snail to 0 .... i hate that snail

[paper sail]

Grats on ignoring the failsafe atom

Gambled hard and lost

[plush spear]

F

[indigo vector]

What lvl divinity maxes out minor bonus?

[plush spear]

Minor bonus? 🤨

[indigo vector]

Of the god

[plush spear]

Oh divinity

[indigo vector]

Is it 150?

[paper sail]

Wiki says never, but there is probably a close-enough answer

[signal osprey]

By itself its not ever possible regardless of div level but with high enough big p bubble it is

You can actually go above the max as its not a hard cap

Its just a soft cap that I guess lava never expected people to go past

[stuck elbow]

makes me want to keep leveling big p to get more afk gain bonus..

[signal osprey]

Well once you hit the soft cap the gains are very small

The only reason to push for more is arctis because its talent level always rounds up

So reaching 15.1 gives 16 points

[stuck elbow]

my big p is pretty high already so i gueess i just need higher div levels now

[hybrid perch]

Hello there! I'm new to the game and I would like to join a guild. The problem is, I don't know any guilds that I can join. May I join in one of yours?

[stuck elbow]

check out #1073780959087964210

[hybrid perch]

Thank you

[grizzled elk]

why no atom?

[crystal socket]

forgot about the atom

[grizzled elk]

oof

[crystal socket]

just checked about it

[plush spear]

Rip

[terse oracle]

Hey, IM new to w5, what should i do?

[grizzled elk]

put everyone in divinity for a while

check the pins here

[zealous niche]

Get second deity asap, then decide from there

[barren otter]

hourly hammer hammer lets go!

[nimble yarrow]

does card drop chance increase dungeon card chance?

[terse yacht]

No

Normal cards dont work in dungeons

Only dungeon cards work in dungeons

[sharp igloo]

Is that on all characters? My mages have more than that but im still struggling with 41 lol

[modern plaza]

are shimmer upgrades multipliers?

[signal osprey]

The damage one appears to be a new multi but the others are not

[signal osprey]

120b is for the last wormhole stage on ES. Rest of your characters could probably be like 80-100b or so

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay. My ES and Bubo have over 200, but the rest of my guys are like 20-50 lol

Which talent books should I go for on my DK and SB first to catch them up? I assume the first 2 in the second row of tab 2 give the most but not sure

[signal osprey]

Definitely shockwave slash on DK and for rift specifically boomerang can do a good portion of the map if you max both of its talents

For SB I mainly use the tab 4 attacks. They have low cooldowns and hit more mobs as you level them

[sharp igloo]

Okay thanks. You think I should max those before damage multiplier talents? I have a bunch of spare talent points, Im mostly just timegated by library checkout speed. I can only get like 1 book a day

[dreamy spruce]

active talents are better for active play than damage multipliers (with some exceptions)

[signal osprey]

If you already can one shot mobs then damage talents will do nothing on rift 41.

You want more coverage which will come from leveling up talents that hit more mobs

[sharp igloo]

I def cant 1 shot them.

[signal osprey]

For DK its probably still better to do attack talents anyway as his large scaling on them might be enough to carry your damage

SB will be a little bit more difficult if he cant one shot as the suppressing fire ability is really only good if you one shot

[sharp igloo]

Alright Ill try those first and maybe his damage will be enough once I put my opals and damage trinkets on him and switch to damage cards

I still doubt itll be much over 60ish tho

[signal osprey]

Also move speed pots can help too assuming you arent using them already

Getting to the mobs faster means you have more time to kill them

[sharp igloo]

I am using those. I think I can probably beat 41 with my other shaman since I just need 1 more character to do it, but I heard there were other waves where you need a dk and a sb

[signal osprey]

And remember to turn off midas and jawbreaker if you havent

[tacit tulip]

you ned 120b and very good talent levels on ES to do the portal one

I had to use 200b as my talents were poor

[signal osprey]

If you only need one more than focus on DK

Theres no more SB flag stages after 41 so you dont need him

But there is an orb stage so your DK will need work

[sharp igloo]

My ES has around 250, so I think ill be okay on the wormhole one, but yeah Ill def start focusing on my DK

[signal osprey]

The other stages are just lava skulls and afk kills iirc

So any class will be fine

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay sweet

[dreamy spruce]

Is it worth to save up for this? Have 12 meals at lvl 30+ with a few more I can easily get. These are my current prints

[lament glade]

used the speedrun and the mole miners map reseted to 6kk kills to open, what can I do?

[signal osprey]

Fluoride is pretty weak with just one or two points in it so probably not. Generally your atom progression will be hydrogen > lithium > boron > fluoride after you get at least 1 point in oxygen and nitrogen as well

[dreamy spruce]

speedrun resets your deathnote kills on vman, and copies them from your furhtest char

[dreamy spruce]

Alright, thanks!

[signal osprey]

Put points in helium when you can and carbon when you need more max levels for wizards

Ignore berylium and neon altogether

[sharp igloo]

What about neon? That one seems pretty good.

[lament glade]

I opend the map next, and I can't go to that map again, what should I do? Vman was the furthest

[dreamy spruce]

Why do these 2 numbers not add up?

[dreamy spruce]

if vman was furthest it resets it

[signal osprey]

Neon is kind of a bait. Rushing boron as fast as possible is a huge goal as its where such a large portion of your atom collider power comes from and it will take more time to level neon than it will save you while maxing boron and fluoride

[dreamy spruce]

dont farm deathnote / portals on vman

[signal osprey]

So neon is done second to last when your helium is too expensive to level up without neon

[signal osprey]

W5 achievement gives 10 daily clicks

[dreamy spruce]

upgraded boron to lvl 2 and upgrades went from 12 to 4

[dreamy spruce]

ah thx

[signal osprey]

Also the neon damage is added into the same group as crystal steak iirc

So it basically doesnt exist

[sharp igloo]

Does each level of neon boost the min level your snail can drop to or is it just the first one that puts it at lv 5? I have 15 boron and 1 neon, and was gonna focus on boron, but if my snail get above level 5 first, I was thinking about adding 1 more neon, since each snail level is a pretty huge boost to bits

[fast grail]

Upgrading boron sets it to boron’s atom count for that day. Always use all clicks before upgrading it

[dreamy spruce]

ah, thank you

[signal osprey]

Snail is sodium not neon and its 5 minimum level per upgrade so you dont need 2 points in it until your snail hits 10

[fast grail]

Don’t ever upgrade it multiple times in a row either, upgrade, then use atoms, then upgrade, use atom clicks … etc

[signal osprey]

0-4 snail requires no atom

5-9 requires 1 point

10-14 2 points

And so on

[sharp igloo]

So my snail at level 3 cant get reset to 0 at all until I get to level 10 even though it says theres a % chance that it will?

[signal osprey]

No it will reset to 0

[lament glade]

in the deathnote it is normal, the problem is, I already opened it in the VMAN, than it stayed closed on vman, i can't open that map, all the other ones are fine

[signal osprey]

The checkpoints only work in multiples of 5

[sharp igloo]

Ah okay

[signal osprey]

So 1 point means that after you reach level 5 you can never go below it

You still have to get there first though

[plush spear]

If your snails at lvl 7 it will reset into lvl 5

[dreamy spruce]

you opened it on vman, used speedrun so the kills to unlock portals are gone, and after speedrun you dont get the kills you had before back, it copies your then furhtest char

[sharp igloo]

Oh I was hoping it would apply to levels below 5 too lol

[lament glade]

but did not copied

[dreamy spruce]

it should have the one of your furhtest

how far into w5 can you go?

[lament glade]

my vman went to 6.000.000 kills needed, another char has 200.000ish to open

[dreamy spruce]

it doesnt copy the amount of kills left, only the zone

[lament glade]

oh, ok, now i get it

[sharp igloo]

I think if you just do the 200k on your other character, then speedrun again, vman will have the next map available too

[lament glade]

thnx

[clever cradle]

do candiess affect book checkuot?

[dreamy spruce]

they affect per-char stuff, not accuont wide stuff

so furnace, alch wont be affected, but smithing and worship charge are

[untold saffron]

Should I keep doing nightmares on another char now or farm some normals for better necklace odds?

[barren otter]

2nd char go

[icy jewel]

is there a preference on what traits you guys get your sailors at

[buoyant valley]

in reference to sailing?

[icy jewel]

yeah

been kinda dumb, just realized theres 5 tiers of guys but ive never seen ones past level 2

[buoyant valley]

based on sailing level to unlock them, and then random chance for them to appear

[icy jewel]

figured its rng based

right now im just running boat speed + loot because everything is able to stay at 2 hours under the first 5 clouds

[buoyant valley]

loot value/sailing speed is a reliable combo

[icy jewel]

cool cool cool. didnt know if arti chance was better than loot

but kinda like the loot for upgrading

[buoyant valley]

if i recall, arti chance is negligable

[icy jewel]

chance is so low anyways i dont see how 100% is kinda useful anyways since odds per box is like always less than 1%

[buoyant valley]

loot value is best

[icy jewel]

so that makes sense

thanks man

[buoyant valley]

eventually you can phase out sailing speed

[icy jewel]

im like level 25 or 26 in it

[buoyant valley]

for now sailing speed/loot value will do you just fine

[icy jewel]

i was told to try and get boats to stay at 2 hour frames but cloud 5 is 3 hours

ill do cloud 6 when i get all the artis

still missing a few

[buoyant valley]

it depends on how long you afk

[icy jewel]

of course. i can check in like every 4 hours

[buoyant valley]

if you afk for like 10hrs every day then 3hrs isnt bad, but if you only afk for 1-3hrs then 3hrs might not be worth, and better to try for artis/loot to upgrade

[icy jewel]

iteresting, thanks

[vapid steppe]

Its better to keep magma shoes or upgrade them to kruk?

[twin token]

What's the best mob to splice in w1 with sb?

[languid arch]

any1 of u guys got some doot eyes i still need to fight doot once to get his item xD

[icy jewel]

i was always told its the map that gives you the most amount of kills/ without multikill, per hour. so w1 is normally spores, or green mushrooms if you have the speed for most people

[still apex]

It's frogs.

[icy jewel]

im testing it right now

i think the whole kills thing is a bunch bs

[still apex]

If you have enough speed it's frogs by far

[icy jewel]

im actually trying to splice w2 currently

[still apex]

W2 should be sand giants, again only if you have enough speed.

[icy jewel]

i just tested it between san giants and crab cakes actually

sand giants get like 5% more kills.... sure enough its actually better for me

by about the same slight increase in dna sweet thats funny

just wanna unlock all my fighting guys for this crap because i need spices

[quiet pewter]

is the dps dummy on shimmer island meant to give you points or its just for fun?

[plush spear]

For getting max dps

[still apex]

You can get a task that uses it or the star talent also uses it

[plush spear]

Yeah theres star talent that based on your max dps on that dummy now

[quiet pewter]

ah ok thanks. one more question, i see theres a claim button on the shimmer task, if i dont press before end of week do i get nothing? i have a guild point challenge to its one that will continually build till the end

[still apex]

I'm guessing you'll lose it

[plush spear]

Yes

[plush spear]

That's good strategy actually

[quiet pewter]

dang

[plush spear]

Just wait untill it's almost the weekly resets

[still apex]

Claim as late as is convenient just make sure you don't lose it.

[quiet pewter]

it would be good stratergy if it wasnt a 50/50 that ill forget

the rewards on shimmer are kinda small?

[dapper prism]

The shop or the amount of shimmers?

[dapper prism]

Yeh some people have already mentioned they forgot to turn it in xD

[quiet pewter]

the effect that the shimmer rewards have on the game seem kinda small

[dapper prism]

It's not that bad, it's BASE stats, so they get multiplied by all other multipliers

compared to other things like alch bubble 1, which is "Total wis" which is only added ontop of what you have

[quiet pewter]

yeah its something

[dapper prism]

also depends on the weekly challenge u get from shimmer

apparently there's an easy one to get like 30-40ish shimmers or something

[quiet pewter]

id have thought % dmg would be better than the stats. i get theres already a lot of %dmg but its probably in the 100s, where as my stats are in the 10000s, so % dmg should be bigger?

[quiet pewter]

ah ok, i was thinking more like 5-10, 40 would be nice

[untold saffron]

Up to 2500 ladles per day, finally feels like they're making progress

[dapper prism]

Yeh hitting 2k+ laddles gets really nice

What's your effy at?

[quiet pewter]

how far have you chowed

[dapper prism]

chow and superchow everything for an easy 2k+

superchow doesnt do more laddles, but good for cooking speed

[quiet pewter]

is super chowing w5 really "easy" though 🤔

[dapper prism]

Yeh, pretty easy to hit 2-3m+ kph on BB over time

[barren otter]

@signal osprey what bubbles are you hourly printing right now?

[quiet pewter]

bold move, summoning theContract, lets see how it plays out

[fast grail]

I haven’t even checked how much laddles I can make now, last I checked was pre-vman and it was sub 1k, since then bb has only been super chowing and he finishes in like 30 hours. Will be great to be able to progress cooking again

[quiet pewter]

i saw the paddles

[dapper prism]

Usually, 3 main stats, hammer hammer, roadkill. (should be easy to do) including stuff like mine effy and tool power, trap effy can work.
Not sure how easily void ore purple one works or Larry dementia ore.
sure there may be some other stuff but also not sure how easy/hard those would be like book checkout etc.

[barren otter]

im doing 3 main stat hearty diggy hammer hammer and roadkill right now

just want to know what else to aim for next tbqh

[plucky badger]

What mechanic is proc’ing when I check afk gains and I get random progress?

[quiet pewter]

double gains?

[dapper prism]

afk double xp chance, some classes have it as a base (archers) others get it from a bubble, think stamp, etc. insight should show (can also use biggie hours)

[plucky badger]

It’ll say like… 2 hours sailing progress

Or breeding, or gaming etc.

[quiet pewter]

elephant god

[plush spear]

Golden hampter

[dapper prism]

Yeh thats omni or gold hampters (for sailing only)
Also 2x bubbles, for gaming and sailing

[untold saffron]

66mill I think

[signal osprey]

I'm doing those with name I guess, stronk tools, severapurple, call me ash, nickle of wisdom and larry

[untold saffron]

Super chowed up to halfway through W4, working on finishing that

[quiet pewter]

maybe a better question is why did you equip the elephant god without looking at what it did?

[plucky badger]

Doot probably

[barren otter]

oh damn im not even close to doing hourly on any of those

[quiet pewter]

ah

[dapper prism]

Ah nice, im currently at this (not wearing afk cape or keychain atm)
https://i.imgur.com/fgTS8L0.png

[barren otter]

thanks though thatll be my next goal

[plucky badger]

Thanks for the help 😊

[whole epoch]

Technically not w5 related but
Clearing portals, should I focus on afk gain rate or should I be doubling the count
Say I do about 5k kills an hour only but the portal asks for 1.5m

[dapper prism]

Active will always be way faster than afk

[quiet pewter]

optimse your kph number shon on the afk tab

[dapper prism]

Only few situations afk is better and that's if you're doing the quests along the way (and have MK) since MK doesn't work for active quests, but does for afk.

[quiet pewter]

active will be faster, but isnt their question about afking it?

[dapper prism]

The question is way to broad to answer...

[quiet pewter]

true

[dapper prism]

No info about current afk gain rate and what the increase would be, which also would just be basic math..

[barren otter]

hey see contract answered me it was all fine

[dapper prism]

"Should i double my 5k KPH or should i gain 30% afk rate on my current 100%"

[quiet pewter]

you should double trikz, glad i could help

[pulsar cliff]

Base Str, Base Agi, or Critter Trap from current arcade store?

[barren otter]

drop rate to max

[pulsar cliff]

Done

[barren otter]

god damn

[dapper prism]

I'll always level stuff to ~lvl 10 because it's so cheap. but yeh definetely DR is the only core important thing, except for when there's forge capacity 😄

[wary girder]

what else can I snapshot while active farming? I know you can snapshot card chance

[dapper prism]

Mana/hp kinda stuff

[dapper prism]

Damn that priceyyy 😮

[wary girder]

so not really much else

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah it wasn't great lol

[wary girder]

can you snapshot money from monsters?

[pulsar cliff]

And still missing two arcade stamps > : (

[fast grail]

How bad is hunter’s catching prints vs bowman on average?

[dapper prism]

yes

[pulsar cliff]

I neglect the fuck out of both of them.

[dapper prism]

20k hours, idk, but others said you can

[pulsar cliff]

But they're not great lol. I mean. Not terrible but.

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/wACmQ8e.jpg

[pulsar cliff]

I just wish I could log in one day to more than 3 trash.

[dapper prism]

You know the trash icons on the screen isnt the amount u r getting?

You actually checking the trash in the shop UI?

[pulsar cliff]

I'd be lying if I said yes.

[dapper prism]

Because didnt you have a lvl 2 trash +20% already the other day?

[pulsar cliff]

Si. I felt like day 1 I had a good amount.

But after that it's just been laughable.

[stuck pasture]

Well shit… guess I should of resampled sooner 😂

[dapper prism]

sample every 2 weeks, get 2x-4x more prints (if you're progressing decently) and gz

[pulsar cliff]

My daily reset was like. 3 hours after patch launch so I got to double up relatively quick.

But I just hit level 3? Is trash a fixed amount??

[dapper prism]

no its rng range

[stuck pasture]

I’m so freaking lazy, but obviously that holds my account back which ironically makes my life harder 😂

[dapper prism]

Gets a lot easier once u get magma on everyone with main tool.

[stuck pasture]

Yeah I just noticed that! I had magma on and it was only marginally better to put logger boots on. Good to know I don’t have to worry anymore

[dapper prism]

Yup, (made my Smol)
https://i.imgur.com/4TxDQfb.png

Full magma, skilling boots, then IS head or magma head.

[stuck pasture]

Absolute legend, stolen and tyvm

[dapper prism]

Also an easy way to setup your 3D samples and not forget anything is to Pick 3-4 things like "Card, Card set, Star signs, prayers" and log on all characters 1 by 1 and do all that stuff.
Then when you sample only thing left is Gear, chips and buff food

[dapper prism]

I posted together most spreadsheets here:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[stuck pasture]

So the skilling boot is still a thing? Only noticed it went from 36.3M to 36.4M

[paper sail]

No 5* Amarok?

[dapper prism]

Probably depends on your bubble levels since some stuff scales based on stats, and magma gives stats.

Also like BB cooking, cooking rings are fine but at some point effy rings from dg are better

[hardy shale]

whats the strategy when it comes to unlocking more gods? unlocked the goat god and been stuck losing 25-50% rolls

[dapper prism]

Lowest roll first until you see a 100% roll

Also check pins

[paper sail]

Personally, I went for the left cheap option every time. Others prefer to stop and grind out 100% on the right if it appears.

[quiet pewter]

i was left click crew too

[dapper prism]

Once u get the yellow bubble leveled high enough, and are at high gods+god ranks its better to roll the lowest % at all times

[hardy shale]

thanks

[barren otter]

last time i sampled my logging bubbles were at 200

they're at 500+ now

wonder what my samples are gonna be at

[quiet pewter]

probably higher

[dapper prism]

At 500ish+ my woodcutting hit 800m

[quiet pewter]

is 500ish about 90% max?

[barren otter]

i dont actually think 500ish is 90%

[dapper prism]

depends on the bubble

[barren otter]

oh yea not even close

[quiet pewter]

87%

[dapper prism]

lower bubbles no, higher ones yes

[barren otter]

567 for hocus pocus for 85%

[worn sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/863-project863-b27check-pins-b27-matthias-gif-25299246

[barren otter]

900 for 90%...

[quiet pewter]

dang, guess ill change my goal to 85% then

[barren otter]

yea i havent even bothered doing anything to 90% yet

still working on 85%

[quiet pewter]

good luck

[tranquil sail]

Does anyone have the link with how to get all the possible dr

[unreal fox]

how to get multikill dmg tiers?

[frigid acorn]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/849473649832755231

[unreal fox]

ah my skill not update @@! its only 1 multikill

[sacred monolith]

Increasing your damage or multikill multiplier. I would look into the multi-kill function to understand it better. But its purple number in the afk screen

[dapper prism]

I got 4 trash today 😦

[unreal fox]

ah i see tks i just check it deathnote, then its update

[dapper prism]

3 days
https://i.imgur.com/Du0BjJT.png
4 days:
https://i.imgur.com/GfeVZks.png

This RNG range on trash is so damn bad

[sacred monolith]

I know its apparently by design but it does seem mighty slow

Almost in an non-fun, unrewarding way

[dapper prism]

design can still be done terrible

when some people get 30-40 trash and others get 3-4

[sacred monolith]

I didn't even know that amount was possible in a day

[dapper prism]

100% in a non fun and unrewarding way

[sacred monolith]

I've been getting a handful each day so far

[unreal fox]

i have 5 too @@!

[dapper prism]

Could have so easily added a system that displays the Range "like 5-50, currently at 5" and then do something like fish trash on the island for reputation or some crap to decrease the range, or to just reach your daily cap of 50 trash or anything really

Basically, reward an active person doing something in the game, instead of just "oh maybe you'll get 3-4 trash 4 days in a row

[sacred monolith]

Yeah having so little influence over it is the problem. Same gripe with gaming. Feels like you have very little power to impact it. Just wait for the luck

[granite grove]

islands are bit too much into the waiting game, needs some active component or side tasks that increases bonus trash

or just the rng range thing if just that

[sacred monolith]

Yeah exactly. Its obviously an idle game. But most things you can make choices and take actions to feel like you are making progress. Without that its discouraging

[wanton stag]

is dk best for farming w5 boss?

[coral goblet]

too slow to be worth right?

[wanton stag]

I feel like islands were more meant for new players when they hit late stage w2 or early stage w3.

[wanton stag]

you can get better rolls, but take it if you dont have a better captan

[sacred monolith]

thats not great. If you have a trash tier captain it could be a temporary improvement though

[granite grove]

still could have bit more engagement even for early players, and for rewards to back up since islands are meant to be like “check at most per week” stuff

[coral goblet]

i have ones with speed and rare chest or artifact find seems better then a double low roll speed

[sacred monolith]

Idleon Toolbox will tell you if an available captain is better than one of your current ones

Boat speed is the best characteristic. Artifact find usually isn't prioritized too much I don't think. Speed is more important for gains

[wanton stag]

are there optimal cards for when farming a boss?

[sacred monolith]

You can increase your drop rate, but I've never seen a boss specific set

[twilit goblet]

do garbage reset daily and we need to check in daily? or its the same if we collect it weekly

[untold saffron]

I think he said it should be largely the same to do weekly

[prisma drift]

Another day of 4 trash

Maybe I’ll get the bribes before Christmas

[barren otter]

it can get much worse

my day 4

[pearl cedar]

Doubt

[prisma drift]

You’re probably right

Unless lava adds a pack with trash in it

[pearl cedar]

I really enjoy the rng aspect of bottles and trash. Timegaited stuff is ok, but timegaited as well as rng that can make it take 2x as long as others.

[prisma drift]

Yeah I wish trash was set in stone

Hate seeing other win

[pearl cedar]

Dont even really care about that. Just artificially making something a year's worth of content

[prisma drift]

You mean you don’t wanna spend a year doing shimmer trials for the talent book???

I like fishing island

Those cards will help my samples greatly

[pearl cedar]

I didn't unlock seasalt

Debating when I will

[prisma drift]

I did trash shimmer next is fishing

[fast imp]

Is adornment better for bubo than magma?

[prisma drift]

Not having the cards also ruining my hard rss set

[pearl cedar]

Crystal island drops candy?

[prisma drift]

Yeah I’ve heard mixed answers on how much

I’ve heard as low as 5 and as high as 20 hours a day

[pearl cedar]

Would imagine it is like giant loot. So could get 3 or you could get a 72 hr

[prisma drift]

Was hoping it was like a juiced giant

[pearl cedar]

Free candy is free candy saves me from running colo

[prisma drift]

Yeah I need to start eclipsing w1-3

So I can’t complain when I get candy

[grizzled elk]

I get too much anxiety using candy so I just end up with a stockpile

[pearl cedar]

I had a stockpile at once. Then I dropped 13k on 3.7m gmush/hr

[grizzled elk]

I have thousands of hours worth that I'm waiting to use "just in case"

[prisma drift]

Those respawn keys chains so good for gmush

[pearl cedar]

If I would've waited like 5 months Id have so much gmush lol

[prisma drift]

1T gmush kills

[grizzled elk]

whens a good kills/hr to candy? I always want to wait for the next big break, but then I say I'm going to wait for the next one

[prisma drift]

I only get like 7m

[fathom lagoon]

Qq on bubo, is there an actual skill that makes him such a great money farmer? Or is it just the sheer endless respawning

[grizzled elk]

I'm probably right around there

[manic herald]

I have doot and just got to w5. i'm supposed to chuck everyone in divinity until i get god 2 on all of them is that correct?

[fathom lagoon]

I don’t see any money related skills unless I’m missing something

[prisma drift]

Respawning

You spawn so many crystals per hour

[fathom lagoon]

Just get to div lvls 2

[manic herald]

ohhh ok don't need to unlock the gods just get level 2 on it

[fathom lagoon]

I think I gotta boost my crystal spawn rate

[pearl cedar]

Candy what gmush?

[fathom lagoon]

Yea but still worth unlocking all gods eventually for their div blessings

[vocal ibex]

Takes a while but the bonuses are good from all gods

[pearl cedar]

Let me check what my sb gets real quick

[vocal ibex]

Worthwhile

[manic herald]

OKay. Im gonna be honest i don't exactly understand how divinity works yet so I don't know what exactly doot gives/doesn't give

[prisma drift]

I especially like badgurs bonus

[fathom lagoon]

And getting everyone to div lvl 40 so you can tranq and continue lvling, that’ll lvl your gods 2nd link bonus effect

[manic herald]

Since i only got to w5 like 5 mins ago

[vocal ibex]

Specially if your a dooter

[fathom lagoon]

You got a lot to do but doot will make it fun, enjoy

[manic herald]

Thanks much

[pearl cedar]

This is on my SB

[grizzled elk]

jesus.. I can probably get to maybe 9 mil

19 is insane lol

[crisp silo]

candy for what, eclipse?

[grizzled elk]

nah gmush is eclipsed already, I suppose I could start working on eclipsing more but idk when would be best to start khp wise

[crisp silo]

5m/hr for candy

or more

[grizzled elk]

I can get 5m/hr for all of w1 at least

some of w2 it looks like too

[crisp silo]

eclispe time

[edgy sorrel]

Wow.. are SB good at afk MK for some reason?

[pearl cedar]

Tried to keep most of my eclipses at 5m+hr but that was awhile ago think it cost me around 5k candy

[pearl cedar]

They're the best.

[edgy sorrel]

I assumed ES would be best with the MK talent

[crisp silo]

idk man it might be the mk/tier + the 333% afk gains

[crisp silo]

es is comparable

[edgy sorrel]

Which part of SB makes them so good?

[pearl cedar]

SB has more damage potential than ES

[crisp silo]

what a min is that ruck sack, that reduces afk gains?

[pearl cedar]

My SB gets like 3-4 more mk tiers than my ES

Which out performs the ES talent. ES was top dog until vman

[crisp silo]

oh yes vman gives goated mk/tier

[pearl cedar]

Nah that is the skill exp for eff prayer

[crisp silo]

bruh

[opaque sun]

Its more of sb offers other values (namely smelting) besides just kills

Also the fact that archers doesnt really have much printing jobs

[pearl cedar]

Well that too, but ES isnt as good of an afk farmer as SB anymore

[edgy sorrel]

I must be building my SB wrong 😦 literally least damage out of all my dudes besides hunter

[pearl cedar]

Is pretty close though

[pearl cedar]

There isnt much too SB, move speed and speedna

[opaque sun]

ES just has like one triliobite worth of advantage in kills, but thats it.

[pearl cedar]

I just tested gmush on mine. Sb was at 19.7m and ES with talent on was at 19m, though ES was 5% lower in afk

[opaque sun]

that slight advantage is not worth sacrificing ES’s printing output

Technically BM is also a candidate for kills, but between sb and bm, its much easier to raise sb’s damage

[pearl cedar]

Everyone gets so much kills nowadays it doesnt really even matter🤷‍♂️

[opaque sun]

Its more of designating one guy to focus the afk kill related premium gears

[errant stratus]

So I need a little help as I am not in a normal situation.

How should I focus my w5 considering I have had king doot pet since w1-w3

[pearl cedar]

@errant stratus

[errant stratus]

I see you!!

[wanton stag]

how do you get the weapon recipe for Skull Lance

[pearl cedar]

Think doot just requires minimum lvl 2 div?

Per char

[errant stratus]

Yeah I did all that

So I have all chars being affected by all God's major and minors

[pearl cedar]

Then drop em in lab probably and let them soak until 70

[errant stratus]

But not the passive portion Including the ones I don't own

So I should still do a hard div grind?

[pearl cedar]

Have 1 push through w5 like normal then swap

[errant stratus]

Gotcha

[pearl cedar]

Well I'm guessing your lab isnt maxed

[errant stratus]

No def not

Not even 20 on anyone yet

I got baby lines

[pearl cedar]

Then just leave em in div/lab so they get both bonuses/levels

[errant stratus]

XD

[pearl cedar]

The one benefit of playing before doot lol

[errant stratus]

I used Dk to speed push w1-w5

So I still got tons of skilling and every other thing too do

Just started constellation farming todat

[pearl cedar]

Yeah no real need to push everyone at once when you have a waiting game forawhile until your passive skills are done

Would use bubo or DK, bubo is nice so you can push alchemy, but might be hard without the damage to back it up

[errant stratus]

Yeah my DK is the most invested gear wise

My Bm can also handle w5 apparently

Needs food unlike my DK but it works lol

He did full first zone xD

[pearl cedar]

As long as you have food everyone should be able to handle w5 with like amarock gear

Maybe more it has been so long since I've been at that level lol

[errant stratus]

Yeah that's what I have been doing lmao but I put my DK in the purp set

[fathom lagoon]

I’m in dementia at lampars that’ll take you a long way lmao

No food either

[errant stratus]

Yes!!! All golden foods 🙂

[untold lintel]

i just keep investing the trash back into +20% garbage

Im at 4 of the upgrades and I get way more than 5 trash a day fs

[icy jewel]

same

i feel like thats kinda worth it early on

i just dont know how how his math works tho.... lets say its 4 a day.... you get the + 20%. is the next +20% based off the 4.2? or off the original 4 is my question

and im an idiot and didnt read a guide. wish i picked different islands

looks like 6ish months to unlock them all

if my math right

[sly plank]

does biggie hours card double everything? like kills and drops? or just the exp?

[vagrant mountain]

exp

[sly plank]

thanks

[sacred monolith]

What makes a companion untradeable?

[heavy moth]

free roll

[sacred monolith]

Any free roll is untradable?

[opaque sun]

only ones rolled using gems are tradeable

[sacred monolith]

Guess I never noticed

[opaque sun]

And the actual trade feature isnt implemented yet anyway

free rolled pet also gives no gems when trashed

[sacred monolith]

Right I know that, I was just managing them and was annoyed that I couldn't recycle duplicates

[heavy moth]

i think its to prevent people to create multiple account and ruined the trading system

[sacred monolith]

Or I guess you can but there's no value

[opaque sun]

There is absolutely no point having a dupe of a free pet

[pearl cedar]

Sheet floating around says buy 6 20% more garbage, maybe a bottle or 2 then bribe, then go to 10 total 20% garbage and just unlock everything else

[unreal fox]

can u give me ur IE? :<

[rotund smelt]

how bad would this be if i have a SB with ~3b damage and a ES with ~1b damage?

[pearl cedar]

Haven't updated since LBs were around but sure

[pearl cedar]

https://canabuddha.idleonefficiency.com/

[sly plank]

worth?

[zealous niche]

I’m planning on just buying whatever is cheapest

[opaque sun]

Its basically just a 32% loot captain

[zealous niche]

So that’ll mostly be more garbage with a few bottle increases

[pearl cedar]

Better than a 30% loot captain 🤷‍♂️

[untold lintel]

can someone check out my IE? https://don69s.idleonefficiency.com/

[dapper prism]

Checked it out for 10s and had to close it.
How do you not have any daily keys for w3?! and only 1 for w2.
Alchemy slacking, do your daily CC,
You have bear unlocked, snake afk gain doesnt work for div. So you may as well toss on some bears for lab bonuses which are more beneficial, plus allows to active on 1 char easier.

[untold lintel]

CC gets me like 200 seconds of time

[dapper prism]

Then thats on you for not setting up CC properly?

[untold lintel]

I have no clue on the whats and hows for that

[swift pecan]

Straight for the jugular lol

I haven't thrown mine out, but I also haven't linked my account. Could be missing out on something I guess.

[dapper prism]

Check out these 2, that give some basic info, also setup bar properly, theres a few setups and it depends on map, dont use fart before aura if map isnt flat, if flat map aura before gas.
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
https://i.imgur.com/CtyMTn6.png

[vagrant mountain]

you cant just ask for your IE help when you dont even look at it yourself, always so many blaring things wrong with people throwing out their IEs asking for help and it's always stamps + alchemy

[swift pecan]

Isn't aura only good past like level 245

[dapper prism]

Nah? aura ticks faster than gas, so mobs die faster. Also depends on map as said, like citringe aura is amazing. Also know the breakpoints for stuff, see wiki.

[vagrant mountain]

aura good at 210

imo if you dont have 210 aura, just use poison build

i guess citringes is a special case because map is so small

[icy jewel]

dude this load out is sick no wonder people active bubo i never understood it until today

[swift pecan]

I'm gonna have to link up to ie this weekend and make sure there's nothing blatantly obvious I'm missing

[icy jewel]

im missing so many stamps and i dont understand how

im so unlucky on some weird ones.

[dapper prism]

The easy stuff right away is miniboss, stamps and all that kinda crap.
Then go through page by page and just upgrade stuff. It's terrible when people ask for help, and then you see 70 books, 10 bosses, all stamps green and underleveled, etc.

[vagrant mountain]

yeah, it's like do you even play the game? 😆

[swift pecan]

I tend to forget the mini bosses for a couple of weeks at a time, but tend to keep everything else up.

[vagrant mountain]

the worst is when you tell them to work on alchemy and they say something like "i can't i cant get the resources"

[dapper prism]

"i ignored all these mechanics that help because i dont want to do them, what should i do?"
(btw don im not bashing on you with this, this is an overal case of experience throughout IE reviews)

[swift pecan]

I did forget stamps for a while because I was having money issues. Came back to them and got like 2k levels last weekend.

[sly plank]

for 3d printer what do purple vs yellow numbers mean

[dapper prism]

Lol yeh, happens to me usually total lvl 3k, then 5k, then 7k kinda thing xD

[heavy moth]

how can i push it just a little more to 10 mil

[icy jewel]

yeah i did a ton of stmaps, im just missing early ones like basic agility and wisdom you get from chopping/ mining

im surprised i NEVER got them though

[dapper prism]

Max dr on vman and go there for a bit

[icy jewel]

i think mines around like 5x rn

its low

rushing is brutal man. you kinda dont "learn " the game until you get your ass kicked in w5

a little bit in w3

[swift pecan]

I'm hitting 10/11x dr on everyone now and noticing a difference

[icy jewel]

like im comparing my efficiency with this guy's who asked rn

and i started 4 months ago and im up on nearly everything from his

he dont even have salts unlocked

[vagrant mountain]

[icy jewel]

yikes

[vagrant mountain]

i wanna say like 70% of the IEs linked in this chat need to go back to w3

[dapper prism]

idk, i kinda disagree. There's a ton of resources there that one can read and check. Yes stuff that can easily be missed and mess up like for me, once u get bubble 15 only level up bubbles with the proper class (orange on warris, green on archers etc) (yellow irrelevant)
And reading chat, asking questions throughout, all helps.

[icy jewel]

oh yeah thats what i did i asked a ton of questions

but i didnt til w3

[dapper prism]

Each time before i hit a new world i asked what are the core things to focus or do in X world., got some opinions, check wiki, then did stuff.

[swift pecan]

I need to finish up td. I neglected that for way to long while leveling towers.

[icy jewel]

after seeing his salt production///// yea.....

no way you even have frozen souls to do anything with weapons...

[vagrant mountain]

i didnt even look at it tbh, i already know what it looks like from how trickz roasted him

[dapper prism]

It's great to push to W5, unlock bear. Then keep 8/9 or 9/10 on div while you active 1 and catch up old content

[swift pecan]

It did make me cringe when I opened it knowing he's in world 5

[icy jewel]

this is exactly what im doing, except i kept everyone on div to mantra--- now they're all in the lab.

because i pushed w4 so my lab levels are LOW

[vagrant mountain]

yeah w5 rush only good if you have a plan, too many people just rush w5 then go " 👁️ 👄 👁️ wat now "

[dapper prism]

But don's salt production is messed up because they are auto refining green salts tho too, and not autorefining orange/blue (not following the chart/pins)

[heavy moth]

had wrong obol

[icy jewel]

mine are following the updated charts to the T

ranks are correct.

at red 11's rn, debating when im gonna up it however, need more damage yet....

for prints upkeep

[swift pecan]

Anyone got the updated chart, want to make sure I'm following the right one

[dapper prism]

W4 pins

[icy jewel]

ye

i made sure to not screw that one up!

[vagrant mountain]

i screwed that one up took me almost 2 monhts to fix it lol

[icy jewel]

oh god it could take like 8 months to fix it

[dapper prism]

I also screwed it up xD

[icy jewel]

if you didndt know

i heard horror stories

so i made that a priority lol

[vagrant mountain]

i was red 8 yellow 7 blue 6 when i found the chart

[icy jewel]

oh god

[vagrant mountain]

now im red 18 yellow 10 blue 6

one more rank until its fixed

[icy jewel]

and it slows it way down too

since you can't spend it on construction

brutal

[vagrant mountain]

ehh just gotta budget yourself and turn off refineries now and then

[icy jewel]

yep

[vagrant mountain]

i just literally dont use salts on anything but buildings

[swift pecan]

I am following the correct one thankfully.

[vagrant mountain]

[icy jewel]

actually imo w3 is the "hey this game has mechanics btw" world

ive noticed exactly what you said doot

[dapper prism]

There's one area within it that has a tiny struggle, but then it gets good again
Main thing though, always upgrade reds, and could technically always upgrade greens excelt for a brief stall i think. since green just takes a while to lvl

[dapper prism]

Wait, i need food to survive?

[icy jewel]

^ ME

LOL

[swift pecan]

@vagrant mountain Mine looked like that until recently. Almost fully troll on everyone w/ magma helmets so far

[icy jewel]

wait apparatus auto puts in food?

haha

theres a tier chart for a reason

[vagrant mountain]

i can make one troll set lol

[signal osprey]

Do it

[swift pecan]

I'm waiting on nullo to finish off boots

[dapper prism]

Troll set means instant magma set

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i can insta magma but i will probably make first one for INT

[swift pecan]

Gathering resources for magma sets as well

[dapper prism]

Thats good, better samples for oak => more atoms

[vagrant mountain]

right now im on SB and then im plan on grinding statues on DK so i dont need to make it yet

(intrusive procrastination thoughts)

[swift pecan]

We got any Intel on the new talents from expeditions yet

[signal osprey]

Nah the real intrusive thought is to roll first magma set for luck

[vagrant mountain]

[fresh plank]

Any of ya'll know why switching to active on divineknight doubles build rate?

[swift pecan]

Don't check construction with anyone but dk

[swift pecan]

Or you lose his boost

[signal osprey]

You can check construction on anyone lol

[fresh plank]

Oh, those dont work if you're afk? ;o

[vagrant mountain]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Island_Expeditions

[vagrant mountain]

just warriors rule

[swift pecan]

I lose build rate when I check it on someone who isn't a dk

[icy jewel]

imagine being me world 4 realizing that the costs are cheaper to upgrade on the appropriate class when upgrading bubbles in alch

[fresh plank]

Gotchaa

Thx

[icy jewel]

i was so mad

[vagrant mountain]

lol

[signal osprey]

Yeah but that happens regardless of whether or not you check it

If you play on DK and get a certain build rate and then swap to bubo but don't check con its not like you keep the DK build rate

[vagrant mountain]

eh just active on your DK when you need the build rate, i feel like snapshotting construction only works with build rate obols

[signal osprey]

You get the crappy bubo rate whether you check it or not

[vagrant mountain]

yeah thats what i found from my experience as well

DK is probably one of the best classes to play active on anyways

[signal osprey]

Its the best class for general account growth

You only do other stuff as needed

[vagrant mountain]

id argue that bubo is

but there is stuff that DK can do that bubo cant do

[swift pecan]

I need to get back to some statue farming, haven't in a while

[signal osprey]

Never stop statue farming. Its the true end game

You just take breaks to fill your cauldrons

[swift pecan]

Been activing bubo to push exp bubble

[vagrant mountain]

real endgame is farming plunder mobs

saw someone in endgame talk with 970k the other day

[swift pecan]

I think I put in over 1k levels last weekend so I'm around 2k or so

[icy jewel]

how

[twilit goblet]

time

[icy jewel]

do they not have a job?

[vagrant mountain]

its an idle game

just leave your computer on

[signal osprey]

Jobs dont interfere with it

[icy jewel]

my computer always shuts off lol

[signal osprey]

My game is running 24/7

[vagrant mountain]

you can change your windows setting to only sleep your monitors and not your pc

[icy jewel]

yeah but can you make it so all the items get deleted

[vagrant mountain]

turn off mob mats lol

[icy jewel]

oh why didnt i think of that

[twilit goblet]

maxing balance of pain actually leading to taking off starsign for 6% fighting afk gains

[signal osprey]

You'll need auto loot for coins still but yeah you can filter mob mats if you have small bags

[swift pecan]

Summer needs to end so I can active more and not worry about my computer heating up the room and activating the ac all the time lol.

[icy jewel]

oh my god

[twilit goblet]

ervyone is now on the verge of death

[exotic juniper]

😦

[placid mural]

heart breaking

[vagrant mountain]

i got u

[exotic juniper]

25k is for the achievement 😦

[swift pecan]

It's poing

[sly plank]

paper boat hat used for anything?

not used as material for anything right?

[flint viper]

What should my BM be printing?

[fast grail]

Bugs for more FMJ clicks

[flint viper]

even with no bug talents?

[fast grail]

Yeah, used to do mob mats, but with vman all other mob printing is kinda useless aside from him

[stuck elbow]

just keep at it. eventually you will get so good 25k is reasonable

got so good at it, that it became kinda fun

[vagrant mountain]

first 500 stat bubble

thx

[fast grail]

Hmm, any tips on what would improve catching prints the most? Want to sample relatively soon, but not long enough to 90% all the catching bubbles

[signal osprey]

I would assume 2 and 7 would be the biggest priority

[vagrant mountain]

theres only like 4 bubbles that affect catching lol

[fast grail]

Hmm alright, guess I can just split atom clicks with 2 and 7 for now

[fading adder]

does the barbarian flame actually increase attack speed? It's hard to tell

[formal swift]

You could get 22 up

The catching power per slab

[signal osprey]

The slab bubbles don't scale very well. Those are usually the lowest priority for pushing samples

[formal swift]

Get it to like 200 at least tho

[fast grail]

Hmm, actually the premigreen bubble multiples the catching tool power bubble right?

[formal swift]

Yeah that one probably a solid idea too

[fast grail]

Alright, will use atoms on that one next reset then

[molten hearth]

Why does my divine intervention from my dk not work on the red mushroom map in w1? :0

[junior arrow]

it does but baba yaga counts as a mob there

so you need to wait to kill that for it to count all mobs dead

[versed cypress]

which makes that map the worst to try and get kills on actively on DK, if you need the mobs for the death note i recomend ES to do it actively

[old portal]

is there a new optimal way to get all lab bonus?

[versed cypress]

doot or the old 6man lab setup with bear god

if you are using other gods and keeping your ppl in the lab you can have 6 ppl in the lab with other gods and 2 more outside with bear and you can get all bonuses active like that

[old portal]

is there any new usefull gods? cuz i only unlocked until 7th god

[viral snow]

8 gods with a purpose
2 are placeholders till now

But you need all 10 for the one ES talent

[old portal]

aight thanks

https://zockie.idleonefficiency.com/

any tips where should i start fixing my account planning to play again

[random saddle]

So what is the best island route so far

[untold saffron]

Trash, shim, Seasalt, fractal, rando, crystal

That's pretty agreed upon now

[old portal]

what are the cards to priority for 5star?

[viral snow]

Clear miniboss

[versed cypress]

most gods have quite usefull abilities depending on what you need

[untold saffron]

C & N troll, C & N chizoar, chocolate box, Genie & poop if you're lazy and want quick gains

[versed cypress]

passive cards specialy for eff for skills are also good targets for 5* asap

[old portal]

i dont wanna bother with my eff rn i have atoms that i dont use atm

looking for overall improvements rn

[versed cypress]

dr cards, dmg% cards, multikil per tier cards, card drop rate cards, etc all those are good targets for 5* i fyou dont have them yet

[old portal]

aight thanks

[clever juniper]

If i got doot and can't check every 2 hours. Is it better to level up chests with SB skill?

[wind umbra]

iirc the skill is only worth it if u cant check for 24h

[foggy briar]

any reason for not having it anyway?

[versed cypress]

12+h checks you get better off from the SB skill otherwise you are good to check with out it specialy if you are tryign for artifacts

the agreed times where no skill is the best is around 4-6h and 12+ is where the skill starts to be better

its all also dependant on your boats speeds and sailing levels

[foggy briar]

but if he has doot every character can give extra afk hours

thus making a 6h into a 12h

before being able to check sailing

[versed cypress]

only if you acumulate the hours from all your afk ppl before checking

but if you are constantly checking ever 4h and rotate trough all yoru chars and check with each one that gets a proc then its better to not have the skill caus eyou will get a lot more chests with out it

its all dependant on how you check how ofthen or how little you check

[old portal]

rift 38 with 20b damage cant kill the bos show much do i need to kill it?

wait is rift 41 still unavailable?

[stuck pasture]

Holy f$$k… went from 500k samples to 36.4M then 69.5M in a day 😂 I owe ya a beer mate! Thank you!

[zealous niche]

That’s the ruby cards isn’t it?