lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[glossy rain]

maybe its additive bonus and doesnt show with these massive effi?

[bold quiver]

chopping

[bold quiver]

there should be at least 0,1% , its exponential

[teal lynx]

Chopping takes Oak right? This should count. Weird

[glossy rain]

chopping uses leaves no?

[bold quiver]

yes leaves

oak is mining

[teal lynx]

Oh wait Chopping Leaves right right. Catching takes oak

[bold quiver]

ore is catching

[teal lynx]

Leaves are not getting counted by this

[glossy rain]

nah ore is ining

wood is catching

[versed cypress]

its not exponential, its a multi that is additive to other sources so its likely your bonus is already so hight that it just wasnt enough to create any vissible change

[teal lynx]

I always misremember what boosts what

[versed cypress]

leaves are not counted??? it was explained that it counts ALL bonuses that require items

[teal lynx]

Lava Code is something else

[bold quiver]

sad , 6,6M gone to dust

[versed cypress]

so its weird that it doesnt work for the leaves one

[glossy rain]

i also think it might be additive and your bonus is jsut too high

[versed cypress]

it is additive to other bonuses

very few things are unique multis

[bold quiver]

i knew i shouldve upgraded my good old cooking speed :[

would have got 2 upgrades there!

at least that 6,6M is out of th way, next is 63M

[teal lynx]

It should atleast help your mining gains. Not too bad I suppose
But 6.6 M is alot

[bold quiver]

it didnt '.'

i dont even know if i got eff there, my mining exp is still the same (cuz i was mining)

[teal lynx]

[bold quiver]

at least now u guys know, stay away from that!

[teal lynx]

Lava needs more Money to fix this. Gamble for Doot

[bold quiver]

the amount of money ppl might have spent on this latest pack should be way higher than doot i feel

cuz it reaches more people. insane buff for 20bucks

sell 1 chicken for 100 bucks, no one will buy, sell 10 eggs for 20 bucks, people will buy!

ofc all i said is based on nothing but my own insanity kkkkkkkkkk

[teal lynx]

I did not spent any Money after the Doot Incident
I can still get the Bundle later if I really want

[bold quiver]

nice, budle is very good. But as every other pack in this game, its dispensable to complete everything the game has

i got to w4 yesterday on my new newbie acc, only has autoloot, 5 days progression pretty smooth

and its going well!

[teal lynx]

Already spent 200€ this Week on Clothes and such. It is fine if my IdleOn Account doesn't get 1.2x DR

[bold quiver]

All those p2w packs, items etc are just for confort, the game itself doesnt require 1/10 of the dmg etc we can get from extreme f2p (and late game we all know everyone can buywhle gem shop farming)

[teal lynx]

Just finishing the Game in my own time ^^

[versed cypress]

as stated, the bonuses are not realy exponential they are just additive, ever power of 10 you get just adds another 200% x pow 10 times so its really not that amazing

[bold quiver]

oh sweet. And i assume the pack is staying forever like all the other, so why rush

can grab it in a few months if u feel like it

[versed cypress]

you probably have so much multi bonus already that the pow 10 bonuses will add nothing

[bold quiver]

yeah :[

i did it for science!

[versed cypress]

honestlyt he biggest multis to eff are the prayers and the vman hands

[teal lynx]

Adding 1 Stack on 12 existing stacks should still increase the Bonus by ~8% right? Not huge, but atleast move the Bar by 1m Eff

[versed cypress]

when you have like 20000% already stashed away 8% is basicaly imperceptible

[teal lynx]

Hmm okay. Sucks for the 6m Atoms. But now we know

[bold quiver]

yeah i wish i had got at least something to move my eff bar D:

709 to 710 would be huge kkkkkkk

[tacit tulip]

Remember how getting vman to top worship did almost nothing for your eff? It's a smaller buff than that

[teal lynx]

Brave sacrificed themselves for the greater good

[versed cypress]

and its not like addint a stack is adding a whole shit load, its not like having 10k giving you 200% and then 100k will give you an extra 400% for 600% total,,, noooo it just makes the whole bonus JUST 400%

[bold quiver]

yeah and at least that one still moves by 0,7%, and has been consistent cuz even when i had 300-400M eff it was still doing that amount

now witha lmost 2B its still that small amount , so that wins!

[versed cypress]

so mearly adding an extra 200% is just... nothing for a lot of late game players

[bold quiver]

trying to become a master fisherman on maestro

[versed cypress]

which sucks cause honestly those pow 10 talents should be its own exponential multi to actually make them worth while

[versed cypress]

at least you now have a new fishing spot that actualy gives quite decent exp

[tacit tulip]

Especially given how insane the atom cost is

[bold quiver]

true but i will unlock that as 4th island probably

[bold quiver]

and how insanely it scales right

[versed cypress]

10QQ to max it if i remember right with out any of the reduce cost bonuses

it scales at a pow of 10

every upgrade costs 10x more than the previous one

[solemn rampart]

Does strength matter for cooking? I unequipped my magma core gear and cooking eff went down slightly.

[bold quiver]

i wouldnt say it matters, but it can help u get that final leg for new eff tier

[solemn rampart]

What's the thing that makes cooking care for strength?

[bold quiver]

no idea

[solemn rampart]

Or whatever stat that gets affected by my gear.

[teal lynx]

Idk if Cooking gets affected my Strength. But this would atleast answer your question if it does

[bold quiver]

it might influence but since ther eisnt a bubble for cooking that stats is not multiplied by any extra source

[solemn rampart]

I don't think so. The difference is really small. I have about 10% less strength with the gear piece and my cooking eff goes down by like 0.1%

[opaque sun]

Str hardly if any affects cooking

[bold quiver]

it does change eff. but small

[solemn rampart]

Also I'm now at the point where the rex ring is better than the cooking ring and it feels weird.

[opaque sun]

all skills efficiency is a separate multiplier than each specific efficiency buff

So that is why rex tends to be better despite seemingly smaller numbers

[bold quiver]

yeah and the journey is fun, its probably around 1200 1500 laddles where that change happens iirc

feels like we grow into big boys

[solemn rampart]

Currently at 910 ladles/day

[bold quiver]

almost!

[solemn rampart]

Ok yeah, it's definitely either strength or health that affects cooking eff. It goes down when I unequip my fishing rod.

[bold quiver]

u can test if u would reset your stats. Then lvl health as last stats to check kkkkkkkkkk

[solemn rampart]

It's not health. (I tested with +%hp cards)

[scenic locust]

Strength is an odd stat for it to be. It could be sum of all stats maybe?

It could technically also be fishing power/efficiency lol

[glad crow]

resampling wood today....

[glad crow]

forgot obols

[heavy moth]

nice gainzz

[solemn rampart]

It also goes down if I unequip my pickaxe. But doesn't decrease for my axe, net, trap, etc. All of that stuff has less strength.

I also just found the grumblo hatchet and gave that to my cook and now that one causes cooking reduction too when unequipped. It has more strength than my previous hatchet.

[ancient quail]

+25 Max to whale summons, and +500px range. Also, all Beast Master kills have a 50% chance to reduce incubator time by 3 sec.
Is this only for base kill per hour or does multikill help?

[fervent brook]

Got the fish island and am getting like 142 mill exp lol. The cards are Fishing Exp, Efficiency, Away Gains, and Speed.

[glacial venture]

only for active kills

[dreamy spruce]

doubt multikill would affect that, would be insane

[ancient quail]

shame, so like approx 1-2k per hour x 0.5 x 3s

[dreamy spruce]

still ~doubles your breeding then I guess

[cosmic osprey]

How u guys hitting 1bill log prints without 6x

[pearl cedar]

Imagine if it worked like anvil skill dreadlo eggs every 2 minutes

[pearl cedar]

So many things

[dreamy spruce]

alchemy mainly

[cosmic osprey]

haha i have 220 mill atm

[sacred monolith]

The short answer is almost always Alchemy

[cosmic osprey]

trying too min max at this point

yeah alchemy needs a "little" work.. but mostly done

[glacial venture]

alchemy is NEVER done

[cosmic osprey]

lol true

[pearl cedar]

Before doot and rift slug 1b was top of the top, required like lvl 8 meal pets, really high meals, a lot of bean farming

[cosmic osprey]

but I am working toward 85 percent done minus linier

[pearl cedar]

Now 1b is not nearly as hard

[glacial venture]

1b of what?

[pearl cedar]

Samples on logs

[cosmic osprey]

log prints

[glacial venture]

with or without multipliers?

[cosmic osprey]

yeah I got doot and slug... just farming beans atm XD

[pearl cedar]

1b base sample

[heavy moth]

sample is always without, print is with multiplier

[pearl cedar]

That was also before you could hit 400% afk gains lol

[cosmic osprey]

gonna need a few of those kattle obols

[pearl cedar]

Im not even sure what a top tier sample is right now

[cosmic osprey]

I think i have seen 1.6bill

[storm kelp]

How is it that my ES makes 26 "currency" in 20 seconds of active play but 26 "currency" per hour in afk gains? I feel like that is crazy

[cosmic osprey]

portal

[storm kelp]

but it's insane the difference no?

180 times more

[pearl cedar]

Not really

[wide belfry]

Just unlocked Poing and these Acceleration controls piss me the fuck off

[errant stratus]

What div level Max's the minor passives on God's?

[pearl cedar]

Crystals and portal go a long way

[cosmic osprey]

its just some of the classes with passive vs active play.. like im sitting on 47000 chopping statues atm on dk with only a few hours of farming

would not get with afk gains

[storm kelp]

alright, didn't realize until now haha

[errant stratus]

I see we meet for a third time!

🤣

[glossy rain]

120

[wide belfry]

Im halfway to max on goat at 43 so i assume 90 or 100

well guess not then xd

[errant stratus]

Sounds good I am unsure of a lot cause I was one of those people blessed by rng.

Had doot before I had w4.

[upbeat estuary]

is there a Point where sodium Level for snake reset reduces Level range Like every 3 lv or so?

[errant stratus]

So I got everyone's div to level 2 and a lot of stuff changed all at once and I had to look into it all but still lacking tons of knowledge.

[heavy moth]

whats all the thing people change to do meme dmg

[glad crow]

finally decided to eclipse w1

[chrome tiger]

it's taking me a long time

[storm kelp]

I decided as well but it didn't work 😦 1 mil each lol

[brisk elbow]

For divinity should I buy the low percent gifts or save for the larger one or does it matter

[dreamy spruce]

buy left until the other one is a 100% chance

[brisk elbow]

Okay sounds good

Thank you

[cosmic osprey]

whats the max roll on a bronze wis obol?

[glad crow]

do people have snake on cooking guy or omni?

[heavy moth]

i usualy do snake for more laddle but i guess at some point omni is better fofr ref and print

[sharp wind]

+1 on bronze 2 on silver 3 gold 4 plat 5 dementia

[glossy rain]

finally last plant...

[dawn moon]

is it worth trying to greenstack items that you have to buy in the shops?

[leaden shuttle]

At what point of the game you should worry about maxing some vials?

[sacred monolith]

Depends on the availability and your patience

[dawn moon]

Chemical took forever, but it is a huge boost

[glossy rain]

jup now im trying to unlock some more plant evos

and then go for snail

or sth

[dawn moon]

snail stresses me out

[glossy rain]

but its good no?

[dawn moon]

it's amazing

but one unlucky pull and you drop back to no boost

[glossy rain]

y

true

how much you get from it?

multiwise

[dawn moon]

i'm currently only at x512

it goes much much higher

[glossy rain]

wow

thats alot

guess i should save up to it soon

[dawn moon]

absolutely worth it

even if you only get x8 it is a great investment

[glossy rain]

true

hoped gaming was the same tbh

but that bonus is rip

[tacit tulip]

It's a 2^x buff, based on snails level

[dawn moon]

yeah, gaming was not as useful as i had hoped

buy maybe i'm just bad at pong

[tacit tulip]

Everyone is bad at pong

[glossy rain]

didnt even got the achiev

stuck at 12k

how did you unlock higher evo? just by accident or did you wait it out?

[dawn moon]

the first few by accident, the last couple i waited out

my pong is only around 9k

[tacit tulip]

Fwiw you're bad at pong because there's randomness in the enemy paddle

You can hit the ball to the same point on the same paddle every time and it can come off at completely different angles than it should

[glossy rain]

do you think its worth waiting with 7,5 min circle time and 19% chance?

[tacit tulip]

This makes it reactionary rather than predictive

This, combined with increasing speeds, and lag, make anything above 15k kinda luck based

[dawn moon]

just leave one or two of the plants you want to evolve going until you get it

not sure if I will bother trying that once I get the evo at 300M red bits though

those will probably all be accidental

[glossy rain]

ye true

[midnight stirrup]

did they remove the Esq mechanic in sailor?

[glad crow]

have other people had a problem with single clicks turning into double clicks after the new update?

[dawn moon]

i think i've had that issue for a couple of updates. i thought it was my mouse

[exotic forge]

Do skill exp signs and cards affect sailing and gaming exp gain?

[golden osprey]

hey, one question
the skill boxes gives prowess effect, that prowess is applied for all skill even if it comes from mining box, for example?

or is a prowess for that box skill

[dawn moon]

i believe the mining box only gives it for that one skill

[golden osprey]

i can't test bc all my boxes are already full :v

[tacit tulip]

You also cap out prowess very easily from alchemy

So it's not a useful buff anyway

[weary sonnet]

Guys, where is the Rift?

[tacit tulip]

Octodars I think, world 4?

[dawn moon]

yeah

[weary sonnet]

And how to get into rift?

[tacit tulip]

There's a quest npc

Gotta do the quest

After that you can tp there through the map

[dawn moon]

and get ready for a grind

[willow sorrel]

is the kattlecruk armour even worth getting for every char, cos isnt magma better for sampling and skills

[tacit tulip]

It's a situational upgrade yeah

I just made it for everyone cause it annoys people

[willow sorrel]

fair fair

[dawn moon]

i have magma on most of mine

[sacred verge]

where can i find sheet for sampling?

[little harbor]

Are infinite star signs not available on this one?

[dawn moon]

nope, not yet at least

[gentle furnace]

Available

I have full page hydron infinite

[vocal ibex]

Is there a pet shiny lvl cap?

[gentle furnace]

No

[inland meteor]

20 afaik

But not realistic to reach

[vocal ibex]

What lvl 1estop at 5?

[quiet pewter]

depends, is best to spread it around as lvl 1 is way faster than lvl 5 for example, so really rotate them whenever you can be bothered. keep the "faster shiny pets leveling" ones a few levels ahead/ always on

multiples of the same pet level faster, so consider multiples of the faster leveling pets

[wind fjord]

Should I be farming at oranges now that I have this unlocked?

[vocal ibex]

Thanks handsome

[tight ridge]

is there a breeding shiny guide

[tight ridge]

its good but the cost goes up alot and since its a rare drop its harder to get a large amount of this mat

[little harbor]

Which boots are better? The ones with % stats, no?

Or is the 2 WP and 10 base stat enough to make the Devious better?

[worthy shoal]

Depends of the purpose

[worthy shoal]

For raw damage and skill sample, devious are worse.

For mob afk, they are better thanks to the respawn

[granite grove]

divine boot/helm for DR

divine chest/leg for mob respawn (also fight afk and mob sample)

magma for damage and skilling

[quiet pewter]

slippers for farming, magma for dmg/ skilling

[zinc torrent]

What do the new bribes do btw?

[dawn moon]

there are multiple, but they are on the wiki

[zinc torrent]

Oh already? Ty

[sacred verge]

quite the improovement

[quiet pewter]

i wish ppl would stop messing this up, you need to put the high sample in both slots

[zinc torrent]

The godly creation one makes the skill... stil bad.

[sacred verge]

lol? it before and after a sample my friend

[fading dust]

I think he’s just joking

[sacred verge]

i hope so, lol

wich of the lumber types are mopst useless besides veiny ?

[fading dust]

Anyone know what’s the first mob in W5?

[fading dust]

Tropical

[quiet pewter]

suggma

[fading dust]

Suggma balls

[vagrant mountain]

tropilogs and veiny are just for po box

[sacred verge]

besides that as well

[weary sonnet]

Guys, how do I pass the third Rift test?

[dawn moon]

I thought all of the middle school kids were back in school already

[vagrant mountain]

ligma

[fading dust]

Why name the mob that if you cant have some fun in the W5 chat 🥹

[fathom lagoon]

It never ceases to amaze me how much better active lvling is vs afk. Would take me 3 hours at lampars to go from 248 to 249 on my DK and active it’s taking me about 10-15 mins lol

[vagrant mountain]

its ok that guy is a total gulpin

[fading dust]

I active skilled for my maestro

[quiet pewter]

not sure, no one has got taht far yet. let us know if you find a way

[dawn moon]

Just lava being lava

[quiet pewter]

no crystals offline

[fading dust]

He sounds like a good guy, met him in SawCon the other day

[visual lava]

Oh you mean Candice?

[fathom lagoon]

Skilling I usually afk just for Omni proc & other afk benefits (double xp at times)

[vagrant mountain]

no how about gobolma

[fathom lagoon]

Yea the crystal monsters giving me a ton of xp for sure

[visual lava]

Isn't that dude a total mind goblin?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah he was dressed as a slobonma

we played sea of thieves

while we listened to imagine dragons

[fading dust]

Middle schoolers unite ✊🏻

[vagrant mountain]

sea of thieves nuts fit in your mouth

im ready for my mute

[fathom lagoon]

Sheesh just timed it 22b xp in 10 mins active, afk it’s 8.1b xp an hour so almost 3 hours lol

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[quiet pewter]

bubo?

[fast verge]

Is active es better then offline es for kill count farming with over 100%afk gain rate?

[fathom lagoon]

DK at lampars

[quiet pewter]

bubo even faster leveler

[quiet pewter]

kill count normally done on SB (or a bit on BB for chow etc), is normally afk/candy

[tacit pewter]

yesssss finally got eldrich fury!!! 😁

[fathom lagoon]

Yea but no fury yet

[fathom lagoon]

Lucky bastard, enjoy

[quiet pewter]

also going above 100% is normally still worse than active, theres just some arbitary offline formula which is multiplied by that percentage, so over 100% isnt any break point

[quiet pewter]

still faster without fury, just not as great at cc

[granite grove]

active always better than afk, unless if afk rate is like >50k%, but even with that afk rate you would still miss out on some drops like pens and statues, and ES portal drop multi mechanic

[paper sail]

If all you want is PURE kill count (as stated in the question) offline might still be better because Wormhole enemies don't get counted to my knowledge for Portal Unlocks and assumingly Deathnote as a whole. But as others mentioned, online has other perks outside of pure kills.

[granite grove]

oh ye that, and also is SB the best character to farm DN kills, right? also to account for opportunity costs like BB into kitchen, DK/ES/Bubo for active when needed

or BM too for DN grinding since it has nothing better to do, ig

[vagrant mountain]

ES gets more kph but using small candies on SB makes forge go brrrr

[sacred verge]

farming eclipse in w1 active worth it?

[vagrant mountain]

no

unless youre farming beans on dk

[sacred verge]

ait

[granite grove]

ty, so opportunity cost wise is SB, raw numbers is ES

[vagrant mountain]

id say if you are gonna use 12 hr+ candy use ES

[stiff cobalt]

I jacked up thinking that I had to unlink each character one at a time

[vagrant mountain]

i used like 300 candies on my SB for DN the other day and i got like 30m bars with 20k~ capacity

woulda been like 80m bronze bars if i did all bronze

[prisma drift]

1B bronze bar vial

[vagrant mountain]

[mystic mountain]

woooo i can finally stop sending ships 🎉

[vagrant mountain]

grats

[mystic mountain]

tyty

[granite grove]

congratulations, now prepare for eldritch artifact rift perk

[vagrant mountain]

now unlock eldritch 😆

[hollow wasp]

im at work, trying to active farm but i have like 5-10fps and everything is hella slow. i think this gets the rate of killing monster down aswell

[prisma drift]

So nice you have to do it thrice

[granite grove]

soon

[mystic mountain]

soon.

[stiff cobalt]

Now I gotta wait 3 days or til my 3rd divinity to unlink 😢

[granite grove]

imagine if lava sells those divinity link reset tokens in gem shops

[mystic mountain]

just started my push from rift 21 to 31 yesterday xP

[sacred verge]

for glass shard farming at sandy pot? DK or ES? and if ES is better how far behind is DK? would it be worth doing DK just for the sake of statues?

[granite grove]

DK to get both statues and shards

or ES to farm sand (for alch water speed %) and shards

most goes with DK iirc if they got high talent books and DR

[sacred verge]

where do i spend sand for alch water speed?

[granite grove]

theres a stamp for it

[sacred verge]

ahhh

yes

sorry been away for abit lol so i dont remeber all

[granite grove]

also the startue exp yellow bubble but those can just be atomed to a point

dont worry, i only remembered about it recently as im pushing it for extra bubo CC grind efficiency

[sacred verge]

yeah

probably use DK then as i cant check inn often when active atm so bags will fill quick

[tacit tulip]

sooooon

[little harbor]

Which stone should I use on this gear? It’s my first set made, and won’t have mats for another set for a long time.

[tacit tulip]

hoenstly go for the w5 stoes first try. You absolutely don't want to risk failing them on your first set

[indigo adder]

Before I mess this up, for my vman, should I be slotting skilling main stat or luck on my tools?

[tacit tulip]

I personally slap luk in. The Eff gain from main stat is small - you're not concerned with hitting multiple tiers of eff

whereas the luk helps a lot with his pitiful damage

[indigo adder]

fair, yeah

[tacit tulip]

just to show I'm not lying 😄

finally hit 900 choppus, I guess today is my resample day

[quiet pewter]

what % max is that?

[tacit tulip]

90%

[quiet pewter]

nice

[tacit tulip]

I've not resampled in forever so I'm hoping for the big gains

[final relic]

Is 8x drop rate with 100,000 kph on ES a reasonable time to be farming lava glove recipe from sugmas? I’ve been activing a overnight for weeks and still no luck

[tacit tulip]

there's never a good time to farm those bloody gloves

[quiet pewter]

kph has nothing to do with it, also no

[tacit tulip]

I did mine at 14x DR and it took me 8 weeks

my wife did it at 12 DR and got it in 3 days

[final relic]

Oof I’ll just give up on it for awhile

[tacit tulip]

You can estimate your speed by checking your Royal urns, the rare drop

on average you'll get the recipe every 1000 urns

so if you get 100 a day, it'll take on average 10 days to get the recipe

[quiet pewter]

the varience is more of a problem than the average

[final relic]

Gotcha gotcha. I’m just gonna move on and farm my last hampers to get lava weapons on my other characters. Vmann can chill with diabolical gloves for awhile

[tacit tulip]

the damage gain is minimal at best

you mostly want them to make kattle gloves for the atk speed increase

[spare cipher]

if i wanted to power grind my smithing up to say, 75, what would you suggest i craft / gather to craft?

(Vman)

[tacit tulip]

Bubblegum until you can craft w5 bullets

Then the bullets will easily take you to 100

[spare cipher]

so litteraly bubblegum to 71?

theres like, nothing better?

[frail mauve]

How do you get that many nails (smithing items in general)

[spare cipher]

this?

just, makeing sure im not missing a recipe XD

rip yellow souls

you will be missed

[unkempt quest]

you can time candy it

[frail mauve]

Still doesnt really give that much imo, my smithing bubble is about 256.

[unkempt quest]

then level up that bubble my boy

[frail mauve]

Still cant hourly click it but i am trying to

[tacit tulip]

Max bags+ pure speed anvil

90% discount tag to level it up high
Use wrong character and unlink lab to get cost up to 100m
Atom go brr

[frail mauve]

Ahhh

[spare cipher]

XD ran out of water

[frail mauve]

Is there a way to reset anvil points?

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, w3 shop

Was added a few months ago

[spare cipher]

tho did get me to 71, so tyvm

[tacit tulip]

The bullets are fast

[frail mauve]

Tyty gonna reset points for speed.

[spare cipher]

yeah just need to get the recipe XD

mole, easy enough

aight tyty

[tacit tulip]

Consider a handful of points in capacity for your archers or you'll max out anvil in a few hours

I keep forgetting to collect mine

[dapper dome]

What are the kill caps for W5?

[frail mauve]

Would be smart. Thanks again

[glad crow]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

[heavy moth]

nice gratzz

[shrewd hound]

How does king doot actually work. Do you get both the Link bonus and the minor link bonus for all characters?

[tacit tulip]

the characters need to be level 2 divinity too

but you don't need the gods unlocked

you should still unlock them for the third bonus, though

[paper sail]

Minor Links still also scale based on your individual character's Divinity levels too, I would assume. So still worth leveling Divinity as well.

Doot just saves you from having to make the decision of which to link to.

[unreal fox]

it mean 1/50000 kills, but no drop @@!

[thin kernel]

when you unlock the divine scarf.. but you need keys and lvl on you "army" to use them XD

[fathom lagoon]

Doesn’t take multikill into account

You need 50k base kills

[fathom lagoon]

Yep, got all my chars to 40 div before switching to tranq and bouncing

[unreal fox]

how to check it

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, you have 1300% MK, so divide by 14 that's 11k kills.

Half for lab, 5.5k kills

Half again if using nobisect

you also need to take off your kpk

[fathom lagoon]

What sakori said

[tacit tulip]

but that's harder to calculate

[prisma lance]

There's a way to get more garbage from the island other than the island bonus?

[tacit tulip]

yeah but it's not available to us yet

[bold quiver]

😮

how so

[tacit tulip]

The new bribes (unlocked by garbage) give methods too

[bold quiver]

imma go for 100% garbage then new method

then 200% garbage and idk stamps

keep pusing garbage to infinite

[tacit tulip]

basically the way to approach it

the star talent from garbage island is % damage

scaling from garbage pow10

[bold quiver]

im skipping that

[paper sail]

That star talent looks like hot shit, considering just how little garbage we get and how little damage it seems to provide

[bold quiver]

we will need a brave warrior to click and see how it scales

[paper sail]

So brave, using the Wiki. Give me a medal.

[bold quiver]

but like, where is that formula at, thats what matters

13.33% on what part of the equation xD

[tacit tulip]

assuming we have everything and you have a high focus on the garbage generation it probably won't be too bad to get it to a respectible number

so just grab it once things are getting big

[bold quiver]

badger god vs tiger god, goth give sailing sped. 1 is ion a dog shit multiplier (badger) and the other is on a godtier multiplier ( tiger)

[prisma lance]

Ok but i'm getting 4-5 garbage per day, need a month just for the bribe

[bold quiver]

if it gives 13.33% of my total dmg, thats a lot. If its 13,33% in top of another mult, might be shit

[tacit tulip]

need a star talent bubble so I can atom it

[bold quiver]

so yeah give me a medal for not using wiki

[bold quiver]

im trying to get the star talent from challenge island, that 1%

i tested the other stats stuff and everything seemed like shit when i upgraded

[fast grail]

damage one is a new multiplier iirc

[bold quiver]

🫡

[lunar oar]

4k more boss keys, still no necklace

[plush spear]

Are loot value affect artifact % chance?

[placid mural]

anyone have the snail calc link?

[tacit tulip]

yay it's done

[fast grail]

50 atom upgrades, not a single +3, this is some horse shit

[placid mural]

sadge

[sly plank]

which breeding upgrades are better to priortiize?

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/4au7RjI.png
crystal Island Loot day 2

[quiet pewter]

bit shit innit?

[viral snow]

not just a bit

[gray thicket]

That's bad?

[ebon olive]

151m kills later I get the recipe thank you suggmas

[tacit tulip]

151m is pretty good rates tbh

[boreal cosmos]

What level should I get spice spillage on everyone?

[sly plank]

best way to get pincermin gun recipe? active dk? should I just candy it?

map feels bad for dk

[dreamy spruce]

es is better than dk

[sly plank]

oh because it's not a rare drop

ohh gtk thanks

[amber dragon]

is this effect divinity?

[tawny jacinth]

Nope 😄

Same with lab doesnt affect it

[marsh wraith]

just take that off

50% is nothing nowdays

[sly plank]

as an ios player I can't risk ever using that

[amber dragon]

its still something for me as I just enter w5 and my mestro is struggling to take lead on skills

[tawny jacinth]

Its arguably even worse on mman lol

Maybe w6 will give us prayer augments, making unending energy give 50% of its bonus as a multi would be something

[marsh wraith]

class exp is useless if u got the ram

[amber dragon]

wait why!

[tawny jacinth]

In my case going from 6.5x to 7x is not even a 10% gain

So if I let it slip an hour over then I'm in the red for xp

Thinking of it now haven't properly compared xp before and after with it so might be slightly off on it but you get the idea

[dreamy spruce]

its more than 10% actually nvm im stupid

[sly plank]

if you're checking constantly or you're active, then you can still use it

it's non-zero gains

but generally it becomes less and less worth it with a high risk involved

[green eagle]

Okay I definitely feel like the garbage island is a huuuuge time sink. Lol I know the point of this was a half year grind or whatever, but I got 5 garbage yesterday, and only 4 today. On top of that I only got 6 bottles today, when I have Omar’s quests done and should get 7.

[sly plank]

it's not a time sink though? just time gated

[amber dragon]

for me is going from 1.5x to 2x so its decent for me

[sly plank]

doesn't even take a minute to claim everything

[cobalt osprey]

S1 got the pic for the Island buy order ?

[amber dragon]

and Im playing this on active, let it sit on my background while im doing work

[fathom lagoon]

Yea garbage going to be a pain in the ass

[dreamy spruce]

trash simmer seasalt iirc

[amber dragon]

I need to farm candys... I dont have 1hr candy

thats insane

[cobalt osprey]

Thanks <333333

[dusty garden]

Wohoooooo, x110k

[tawny jacinth]

Hmm just occured to me, does mantis bonus count when doing zow/chow?

Glad I waited on it then

[steady egret]

Tips n trick for W5

Pls

[wide belfry]

Surely if you have 6.5x XP already the buff it gives must be closer to 1.5x instead of 0.5x

[tacit tulip]

148% at max

[iron citrus]

New fish worth unlocking? What's exp like there?

[tawny jacinth]

🤷 I keep finding things to spend souls on instead of upgrading, mines only 28%

[tacit tulip]

yes, 10-30x med fish

[iron citrus]

Nice, I'm 4.5mil fishing exp per hour atm with 200%afk

Don't wanna go over vman level tho

[tawny jacinth]

And I'm not exactly a good player, slug so its a bit higher than it would be for others at my level but thats only another 75 levels into happy dude

[tacit tulip]

worship soul gain mostly comes from your max wave (and food). You'll go from having no souls to very suddenly having all the souls

[tawny jacinth]

Yea just redid mine today so 1k a harvest

Before eff/food

[iron citrus]

Hope my name.picked on contest atm. Need some bottles. This dumdum unlocked crystal island lol

[heavy moth]

what should i bbuy in gaming when im starting low red bits and everythig cost like 50 red bit what do you guys priorize

[iron citrus]

I should really learn to.wait for other people to give advice 1st lol

[tawny jacinth]

Hope I win because I'm not a dumdum who spent bottles poorly so theyre more valuable given to me /s

[modern plaza]

almost 12x DR 😦 not that juicy 17x tho

[iron citrus]

Fingers crossed your name.pulled.

[sly plank]

hmm, I never did the w2 achievement for 132% speed and it seems I have too much speed now

[tawny jacinth]

Congrats 😄

[sly plank]

no potions, no star talent I’m at 137

could I be missing anything to lower it further? 😂

[tawny jacinth]

Theres few star signs to bring you under

[sly plank]

oh right! I’ll do that

thanks! seems I’m still within threshold

[tawny jacinth]

For early gaming, I assume I should let things grow all the way before picking them? Have golden sprinkler if that changes anything

[lean thistle]

https://greedster1.idleonefficiency.com/ should I get rifts soon and work on atom collider?

[pure meadow]

does the DK talent with the printer output per power of ten orb kills count for ALL your character or just the DK?

[paper sail]

All characters

You can view it on the 3D printer to verify

[pure meadow]

thats great, thank you

[paper sail]

120 secured unless I whitescreen

[glad mountain]

does anyone know the how the daily drip is calculated?

[fervent brook]

Is there a effcient way to use the Bargain Tag? Everyday

[paper sail]

Costs reset daily. I'd guess typical use is as many rounds of 90% discounts as you can afford 🤷

[willow drum]

take something that you can't afford and reduce it by 90% so you can afford it so you can push it to the atom breakpoint

[mossy ice]

fuck

headfuck am rushan

[paper sail]

Common targets are poopy materials, like smelting bars, anvil materials, souls, critters, high tier enemy mats, high tier w4/w5 skilling materials, fish lol

[mossy ice]

haw to spek engles

iam rushen

[willow drum]

найти русский канал

[mossy ice]

i cont to teach englih

[mossy ice]

hat is these?

what means найцти

цццццццццц

https://tenor.com/view/plague-doctor-dance-gif-19130639

https://tenor.com/view/skibidi-bop-bop-yes-yes-пузо-живот-смех-танцы-gif-27224458

https://tenor.com/view/hippo-animal-gif-9957547

[willow drum]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/802265152531595324

[mossy ice]

what u meaning by this

u think me язычный?

are u idiot?

[willow drum]

that's what I understood this as

unless you're illiterate i'm not sure how else to translate

[mossy ice]

you idiot

i am not

язычный

if u need a rushiean

chat

u need to chat для русских

and not язычный

its on problemed

[willow drum]

i give up you sound like a drunk

[exotic forge]

do skill exp card/sign/item bonuses apply to w5 skills?

[fast grail]

Biggie Hours works for divinity if you are not already double exp capped

[thin rose]

Sailing, Divinity and Gaming have seperate xp variables

[paper sail]

Similar to Construction, Cooking, and Lab, the w5 skills all have their own unique sets of exp and/or efficiency

[exotic forge]

thanks

[mossy ice]

sohert

blyat

ahuet

russea

oooooooooooohhhhhh

[thin rose]

English only my dude

[mossy ice]

not

[thin rose]

[mossy ice]

iam rusia

[thin rose]

Then go to your respective language channel

[mossy ice]

where

[unkempt quest]

4chan

[mossy ice]

voda

[thin rose]

#👀read-me

Each country has their own language

my govorim zdes' tol'ko po-angliyski

[mossy ice]

i am no have langage

slysh polyk

[paper sail]

[mossy ice]

ya govory po englisky

i po polsky

[thin rose]

Well unfortunately you do have to speak English in the channels

[mossy ice]

bruwe

[thin rose]

Gg :)

[vale wadi]

you guys d o also get a white screen and have to quit the game a lot?

[thin rose]

I've had it once or twice maybe in 8-9 months

And I active 250 hours a week

[fast grail]

only when cog clicking pretty much

[thin rose]

I think mine only happened going into chips in lab

It's a weird thing

[vale wadi]

after update I got it every 10 minutes or more....

[fervent brook]

Bought Seasalt Island today no regrets. will get shimmer next.

[dreamy vector]

Best map for plunderous farming?

[tiny laurel]

Oranges

[fervent brook]

I am so glad I did not buy any islands before looking up what they do here lol.

[rotund smelt]

Is best way to farm skull points in rift the same way you'd farm lava skulls?

[tawny jacinth]

Should I be letting my plants grow all the way or pluck them as they popup if I'm playing actively

[tacit tulip]

basically yeah, less urgency though as it'll always progress with time

[rotund smelt]

Aight ty

[dawn moon]

Lower tier mutations like sprouts, fungi bonsai and blossom i pick when i see them

[tawny jacinth]

Very early seeing as fungi is my top tier lol

[dawn moon]

voraci too

if you want, let your top tier stuff grow and pick everything lower

[tawny jacinth]

But good to know that the logic of let them grow is the later game method so probably best to just let my shrooms grow

And I'm assuming that for sprinkler what it does is just grow however many plants it has charges for and doesnt rank them up?

[dawn moon]

yeah, i believe so. so generally don't use the sprinkler unless you have space for it to drop stuff

although if i have cacti or other stuff i want to keep (chemicals) sometimes I'll let of few of the sprinkler go to waste

[whole compass]

Hey quick question if u have two elite char does their skills stack for example two divinity knights Bittly Litty (x+% bits gained per gaming LV)

[haughty sedge]

what was the priority for the islands?

[tacit tulip]

Doing my first chopping sample in months, what obvious things am I forgetting? 😄

[next locust]

Prayers and starsigns?

[dawn moon]

cards AND sets?

[tacit tulip]

surprisingly remembered both of those

I think sheepie has broken my brain and made me think I'm forgetting more than I am

[next locust]

Boost food and equipment?

[tacit tulip]

guess I need to snap mp

[dawn moon]

voidrunner assisting all he can?

[wind umbra]

chips

[dawn moon]

ooo..yeah, chips

[tacit tulip]

ooh good point he's in his punchy build

would heave definitely forgot that one

[next locust]

Yeah sheepie does that to me. I spend more time trying to remember what I've forgotten cause it always used to be bubbles that I miss

[dawn moon]

my void is almost never punchy now

[wind umbra]

gos if u dont have doot

[tacit tulip]

I'm knocking him up to 450 for divine

[terse yacht]

No, it only uses the bonus of your highest levelled character for that class

[dawn moon]

have any stamps to upgrade?

[whole compass]

Got it thanks !

[tacit tulip]

62 is max skill speed right?

[vocal ibex]

Can we add something where it tells you how much trash you get per day??

[wind umbra]

ye

[dawn moon]

also, have you maxed out your devine bonuses those can boost skilling a good bit

[vocal ibex]

I'm over here pulling my hair out I get 2 or 4 idk

[viral star]

which one should i focus and also how this acorn eater works

[vocal ibex]

More I'd say

[tacit tulip]

good shout, was linked to flutterbis on second link. Easy 30% afk there

[dawn moon]

i usually upgraded the bits. but speed wasn't too far behind

[viral star]

okay

[pulsar cliff]

Yessss free pull gave me rift slug

[dawn moon]

congrats, i hate you

[tacit tulip]

nice

[dawn moon]

nice jump

[tacit tulip]

could have been nicer - it's defiintely been a few months

but I'll take it

[wicked fractal]

Does the atom collider use up your 10M resoucres? Like if I had it turned on, and I had 10M green spores, would it rob me of it all?

[tacit tulip]

fairly sure it aims to leave you with that amount, so if you had 20m, it'd leave you with 10

generally advised to have a high cap (eventually 1050) to stop exactly that from happening

[wicked fractal]

word, thank you

[dawn moon]

@tacit tulip how many green stacks do you have?

[tacit tulip]

122

[dawn moon]

geez

other than standard drops and resources, what do you have stacked?

[tacit tulip]

I don't really go out of my way to get the awkward ones tbh

so mostly those

and I'm missing some of those even

a few foods

[prisma lance]

Both

[tacit tulip]

and that's about it

[dawn moon]

i'm about to finish us standard monster drops, just realized i had spent enough to drop a couple of them down below green. i still have lots of resources and buyables to stack though

[tacit tulip]

copper sample not as high but that's fine

better than the goldfish he was generating

...and the apparently green pickaxe one sec

[stuck elbow]

we close

[tacit tulip]

ok new pick helped

[glossy rain]

is there a calculator for gaming plant circles and chances?

[zinc torrent]

how far is map with drop for collider?

[zinc torrent]

oh only 2-3 maps away from my current state, nice

[umbral tapir]

Is there any reason to use efficiency gear when doing divinity? It's just +exp that affects it, right?

[zinc torrent]

for late game tips, how to push from 25M crits to absurd 1000+M dmg? alchemy + W4-W5 skills? (sailing artifacts, lab chips, cooking dishes)? is rift usefull for that too? i guess i lack atom collider too

[glossy rain]

divinity is like only effeckted by divinity related things

[tacit tulip]

ye no efficiency for divinity - exp barely helps outside of divinityu specific buffs too

[glossy rain]

if there is no divinity in it it doesnt do much

[tacit tulip]

Most later damage comes from a mix of alchemy and sailing, these in particular

there's a lot of damage held within having max book for all your damage skills, too

[zinc torrent]

is going from 200+ lvl into 400+ done by some active farming?

[tacit tulip]

the later maps give good exp

[pulsar cliff]

Like. Busted amounts lol.

Tremor wurms is amazing.

[tacit tulip]

combined with levelling your GT bubble (more than I have) levelling gets quite simple

[willow drum]

crystals = majority of exp

[tacit tulip]

some alright atom gains today. Need to book my bubo's chopping skills so that'll be my next couple of days

[dawn moon]

do you have at least the first level of all atom rewards unlocked?

[tacit tulip]

technically not bought the discount one

but otherwise yes

[empty ridge]

I always lose the google doc for the arena

[stiff kayak]

Yo just saw a dude with the new throphy

[dawn moon]

wow

[tacit tulip]

dang that's sick

[pulsar cliff]

Daaaaaaaang

[untold saffron]

The luck just keeps on rolling just missing the slug now

[empty ridge]

Anyone else have an issue with recycling the pets? Mine just says contacting server

[untold saffron]

Pets are for life not just for doot day

[pulsar cliff]

Don't need to worry about that nonsense anymore.

[clever juniper]

anyone got the archived guide sheet?

[empty ridge]

Can lava make it so the animations can be turned off for pet battle so I stop freezing 😂

[clever juniper]

high performance mode

[thin rose]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml

someone remade it so don't need archived anymore

[gray rivet]

How do you get that?

[thin rose]

afk on nothing island

1 in 100000 drop

[gray rivet]

Thx

[gray rivet]

Oh

Its okay i got lucky lad before

[thin rose]

this is every hour

[clever juniper]

thank you so much!

[thin rose]

so every hour is a 1 in 100k chance

[gray rivet]

Where is trash island?

[placid mural]

No

[gray rivet]

Nothing*

[thin rose]

you unlock it

in the island expeditions

[gray rivet]

K

[thin rose]

at the last fishing map

[gray rivet]

Have a nice day Med! Thanks for the help

[thin rose]

you too buddy

[sharp igloo]

What happens when this number hits 0 lol?

[thin rose]

what is this?

[tawny jacinth]

You win the game

[sharp igloo]

Idk it just appeared there the other day

[gray rivet]

You mean fractral islabd right?

[thin rose]

yes it's fractal

[barren otter]

get to 0 and let us know

:)

[thin rose]

I would highly recommend leaving nothing island for now! trash island gives way better bonuses O:

[sharp igloo]

Does no one else have that? I figured it just happened after a certain amount of gmush kills

[tawny jacinth]

Yea nothing island has nothing

[thin rose]

I'll check after nightmare kattle

[tawny jacinth]

Shovel bonus? Fuck it we going to nothing

[gray rivet]

Also quick question, i get 5 bottles a day, is it irl days or no?

[thin rose]

every reset yes :)

[tawny jacinth]

Daily reset

[gray rivet]

Oh

[tawny jacinth]

There is no ingame day/night cycle

[gray rivet]

How do you guys unlock fractral already???

[tired sorrel]

Daily reset = when your shop resets. Different time for everyone

[thin rose]

you can buy bottles in the gem shop

[gray rivet]

40 right?

[tawny jacinth]

Someone got lucky with the contest, or saved their initial bottles+gemshop

[thin rose]

I bought shimmer and trash island first

[gray rivet]

I bought trash and the 3rd one

[lyric sequoia]

Imagine burning 60k hours on fractal and not getting that trophy, yikers

[opaque sun]

unlocking fractal means wasting a lot of initial boost from gem shop and such

[tired sorrel]

I started with trash, gonna get shimmer next

[thin rose]

I believe crystal is the 3rd one

[tawny jacinth]

Also most likely all the info on fractal was datamined, not found organically

[gray rivet]

O

[thin rose]

trash first, best island

[opaque sun]

theoretically one can have fractal, but that is bricking the island progress honestly

[lyric sequoia]

Trash is gonna take so long to unlock even just the bribes, they better be worth it

[thin rose]

the bribes are decent

[gray rivet]

Whats the 2nd one i heard its trash

[sharp igloo]

How do you claim daily bottles? I had 25 yesterday, and today I still have 25, even though I should get 7 a day

[opaque sun]

first is trash no doubt

[lyric sequoia]

trash -> shimmer -> sea

[tawny jacinth]

Daily reset will have more bottles in the water

[thin rose]

they drop on the floor

[opaque sun]

2nd is either seasalt, or shimmer

[thin rose]

sea > shimmer honestly

[sharp igloo]

They arent there...

[opaque sun]

3rd is what you didnt pick for 2nd

[thin rose]

mine took 10min

[lyric sequoia]

Sea is only good if you've gotten to the lvl 90 quest

[thin rose]

and they were near portal

[sharp igloo]

Weird ill look again

[lyric sequoia]

Which most people have ignored BJP, so that's at least 2 days of waiting

[thin rose]

sea makes it easier to get to the 90 quest tbf

[gray rivet]

Why?

[thin rose]

fishing xp on sea vs normal is an insane diff

[opaque sun]

If you already have fishing lv70+, shimmer as 2nd isnt a bad idea

[lyric sequoia]

You've got time while waiting for the BJP gate before it is what I'm saying

[opaque sun]

If you are below 70 fishing, seasalt gets a bit more priority

[thin rose]

I have shimmer, it's mid

[opaque sun]

the weekly bonus of efficiency are great

[gray rivet]

How is shimmer?

Is it nice?

[thin rose]

it being a weekly reset makes it meh

[opaque sun]

its okay

[thin rose]

but I understand it ig

[gray rivet]

So currently

Its a 1 hit wonder?

[opaque sun]

There is no clear one is better than the other between a comparison of shimmer and seasalt

[wind umbra]

anyone know break point for 12? I feel like im so close

[lyric sequoia]

Late 60k, earlly 70k. Somewhere around there

[opaque sun]

Someone reported there was a weird break point at 60500

[gray rivet]

Ngl W med

[wind umbra]

lets see if i can squeeze it up a bit more

[opaque sun]

just dont gamble for books if chosen shimmer as 2nd island

[lyric sequoia]

Too late

Not like +10 base stats per week is particularly ground breaking

[wind umbra]

looks like its around 60k something

[gray rivet]

How

[opaque sun]

efficiency and total damage upgrade is quite strong, especially the first few cheap levels

[gray rivet]

How did you get 3k wtats in 5sec

[wind umbra]

doubled the all stat cards

[gray rivet]

Oh

Smart

[opaque sun]

Like added some stat % cards and few gears boosts it

[sick sentinel]

Plenty of easy quick changes like cards, starsigns, chips to help

[gray rivet]

More stars than my entire cards

[lyric sequoia]

I fucking hate hunting for this god damn eldritch fury

[opaque sun]

Sorcerer cap and valentine purple rose now have a more clear use for those shimmer trials

[lyric sequoia]

I think I broke trash island too, 3 trash per day gross

[gray rivet]

Who wins in a 1v1 elemental sorceror OR bubonic conjurer?
Or

React with your opinion

[patent hatch]

Took me until three weeks ago with all boats lol

Going for c steak now RNG is a bitch

Still don’t have all plants lmao

[lyric sequoia]

I'm getting more and more convinced that if you used the ancient gem shop thing on an artifact there's a bug that stops it from upgrading to eldritch

[patent hatch]

Nah I did it originally

[quiet pewter]

i didnt use the gem shop and have eldritch, so can confirm

[patent hatch]

And I ended up getting it

[lyric sequoia]

What's you gem shop'd fury?

[patent hatch]

Yeah

To ancient

And I have eldritch

[lavish quiver]

Lets go first wings finally

[lyric sequoia]

What level did you guys stop at for the + tallent point bubbles? Not sure how many I need to stop caring about builds

[patent hatch]

Idk but I’m level 470 and have enough for everything I need. Don’t have that slug to give another 25 though

It’s 170 though

[lyric sequoia]

hm k, I've gotten mage to 437 so far but without eldritch fury I've not bothered max booking anyone yet so most things are in the low 200s

[patent hatch]

Yeah fair I was the same lol

[lyric sequoia]

Maybe I'lll just round out to 500 then go to the next 1, that's onlly another day of atoms

[patent hatch]

Do the skills you won’t prio so that books keep stacking

[lyric sequoia]

Need a rift thing for bubble mastery

[opaque sun]

Boosts all bubble per total level, allows giant big bubble to reach 100% proc rate so that crystal island becomes obsolete is what i can see in bubble mastery

[thin rose]

What's the use of crystal island again, is it just free candy?

[lyric sequoia]

I'm pretty certain that the giant bubble either woulld be capped at maybe 75% max with something like that, or it would be shortly after it was released

Oh lava removed the placeholder image for these things in speciall talents in the last patch, huh

[orchid ferry]

so do I just keep leveling garbage?

[tawdry steeple]

yes, i guess to lvl 5 or 6 befor efocusing on bribe

[strange egret]

how do you get enough damage to beat katlecruck in 30 seconds?

[lyric sequoia]

By getting more damage

[green eagle]

i personally am very happy i chose seasalt

shimmer seems very meh to me looking at every post about it

[dapper prism]

I regret getting shimmer, 100% agree with seasalt

[barren otter]

trash island daily rng is bullshit

wtf is this

[dapper prism]

Agreed, 3 days, lvl 3 trash upgrade, think im at 39 trash gained in total.
Know someone who got lvl 3 trash upgrade on day 1...

[barren otter]

dude

i cant even afford the lvl 3 upgrade

...

[dapper prism]

Pure rng for stuff like this feels like terrible design

Could havfe been a very simple reputation system, get minimum trash but if you fish a bunch you get the higher end of the range. Not just full rng get wrecked

Also that bottles can spawn off screen and then ur fk'd if u miss them on a day.. instead of claiming it from the npc/board

[pulsar cliff]

Day 2 and 3 I've gotten <5 trash per day. =/

[lyric sequoia]

I've gotten a total of 6 trash over the last 2 days with lvl 2 trash boost

[worn sonnet]

I got 4 day 2 and 3

[fervent brook]

I agree glad I got seasalt before shimmer. I am sticking Vmann there to level fishing and build up on some of the new fish/cards. Will get shimmer next though.

[worn sonnet]

I picked rando second cause I thought I would be getting garbage a lot faster than I was

I was a fool

[dapper prism]

didnt even know it could go that low xD

thought the range was like 10-40ish or something but from the sounds way worse

[barren otter]

not sure where youre at on yours

but this is mine on day 3

[dapper prism]

8 trash ahead of you? (3 days)
https://i.imgur.com/Du0BjJT.png

[barren otter]

given my current rate

ill need another 2 more days to get 8 trash :)

[dapper prism]

You've gotten 27 trash in 3 days?

[barren otter]

yes?

day 1 had a backlog of trash iirc

[versed cypress]

how much you got today???

[barren otter]

i got 4 today

did we start with a set amount on the 1st day i cant remember

[versed cypress]

hmm so the range seems to be around 4-9

[barren otter]

someone said they got 3 today

[versed cypress]

no you just got a random ammount with some backlog so we got the equivalent of several days of trash in the first day

i got 9 today and got 7 yesterday

but yeah the low end seems to be quite annoying

[barren otter]

yea i dont really remember how much is started with

but i know the amount ive gotten these past 2 days is low

[versed cypress]

i got enough to buy the trash upgrade 2 times in the first day

[barren otter]

oh

i was only able to buy 1 on the 1st day

[placid mural]

I'm glad I got shimmer first, 2 weeks of shimmer boost ahead of going with seasalt, and I can candy seasalt, I can't candy shimmer

[versed cypress]

all i know is that i got around 25 on the first day dont remember exactly how much

shimmer is nice but i would say seasalt just for the massive exp boost is quite worth it

[placid mural]

But my point is that you can candy the experience from sea salt

You can't candy the time line on shimmer

[barren otter]

hmm so i just got shit rng to start trash and itll just be slower than other ppl

thats cool

[versed cypress]

ohh yeah shimmer has a more value long term to unlock faster

i mean you are slower now because bad rng but doesnt mean you wont get very good rng while others get bad rng in the future

[opaque sun]

In the long term its like a comparison of either taking 2 weeks worth of shimmer upgrades, or 10-14 more bottles

[versed cypress]

which honestly... i have no idea which one is better xDDD

i mean 2 weeks of shimmer also is just 2 tasks since its a weekly tast right or do you have daily ones???

[barren otter]

weekly only

[opaque sun]

Two trial worth of shimmer pts assuming you didnt waste it on book gambling

[versed cypress]

wait the book has a random talent level???

[opaque sun]

1% chance to get book, 99% chance just lose 3 shimmer pts

[versed cypress]

o.0 thats.... i dont even know what to call it

[opaque sun]

but the efficiency and total upgrade are nice tho

[versed cypress]

is there a picture of the shimmer upgrade window???

[opaque sun]

Just dont aim for books until other shimmer upgrade are so costly like in the hundreds per upgrade

[barren otter]

• Base STR, + Base AGI, + Base WIS, + Base LUK, +% Total DMG, +% Class EXP and +% Skill Eff

[versed cypress]

sounds liek the book is basicaly the last thing you will get when everythign else costs over 300 shimmer points and you acumulate 300 shimmer points to try and brute force the book

[opaque sun]

total dmg seems to be a new damage multiplier pool so its decent

[barren otter]

im rolling for the book at least once every week

[opaque sun]

Class exp is additive to your base pool so its ass

[jolly talon]

what happens if i log in on steam and IOS at the same time?

[untold saffron]

One of them won't save progress I assume

[versed cypress]

you will probably desync your game really badly

[opaque sun]

Even if you get book, its like 4% stats for spending 200 star talents, and the expected cost of 300 shimmer pts, so kind of a bad deal

[versed cypress]

damn yeah doesnt sound likes its worth it untill all shimmer stuff just costs way too much

[signal osprey]

I lucked out and got the book in 5 rolls and honestly its not that great. I dont recommend going for it

If you get lucky then its worth it but statistically you wont ge tlucky. At average drop chance for it you're probably better off just leveling stats instead

[opaque sun]

Maybe okay like in w6-w7 when you have so many star talent points to sink

[empty glade]

I accidently rolled 1% on div and unlocked it

[opaque sun]

300 pts spent in efficiency (and maybe damage) has a more noticeable impact in the early stages

[signal osprey]

Think my DK got like 500 strength or so which is a little underwhelming given he has like 34k total

[barren otter]

i shouldve assumed this was true, but out of hope i put 1 pt into it

wasted that 1 pt

[signal osprey]

You'd probably get a similar amount of stats just by doing the base stats instead assuming average book luck

Except no rng that way

[barren otter]

thats less fun

ill keep buying it and complain in a few months from now

[signal osprey]

[opaque sun]

the base stat shimmer also gets affected by other sources of % so it scales okay

[barren otter]

so realistically avoid class xp

avoid book unless oyu like to gamble

[twin token]

How long should my sailing time be before I start going for fury relic

[versed cypress]

ahh thats good, being base and not total

[twin token]

I have the island unlocked but my fastest ship can only go on a 21hr trip

[versed cypress]

you need to speed up a lot more

[opaque sun]

Get more loot, upgrade ships

[twin token]

Are there any big ways of getting sailing speed?

Other than upgrading boats obv

[little pagoda]

It's gonna take weeks to get back all the candies I'm spending to unlock vman lol

[dapper meadow]

Maybe around 8ish hours I guess. Do you have the alchemy bubbles that proc sailing? Or Omni gods?

[versed cypress]

captains and upgrading boats

[little pagoda]

Only the 12m green spores left now

[twin token]

Don't have bubbles but I have omni

People said to focus div tho so I'm gonna swap back to gohart next reset

[hoary light]

anyone have the picture of all multikill sources?

[dapper meadow]

Msa sailing in gaming. Some of the gods boost sailing %. There’s a vial. Some island treasures

[twin token]

Oh ye Im saving up for msa sailing so that should be big

[dapper meadow]

Statues.

[twin token]

How much does it give per 10 levels?

[dapper meadow]

Same as meal %

[twin token]

Oh ok so I'll get 26%

I should do some more td lol

[barren otter]

26%??

[twin token]

Ye I have low td levels

So I won't get a lot from msa sailing

[barren otter]

oh no... lol

[twin token]

Yeah ik it's bad lol

I have like 3 different towers on construction tho so I should be getting some gains soon

[barren otter]

its okay

i went from 33% to 67% recently

[heavy moth]

is that the equivalent of 2 q ?

[barren otter]

after letting construction go for a while

[twin token]

Thats crazy

[versed cypress]

yes its 2Q basicaly

[heavy moth]

thanks wasnt sur if i was missing a digit for qs so i basicly hit 1/100th of zelb XD

[untold saffron]

Giveaway rewards just dropped

Vman about to be a salty boi

[heavy moth]

niceee

[untold saffron]

170 for fractal

With 3 islands

[opaque sun]

Giveaway 3 island gang

[little harbor]

am I doing divinity wrong? Got everyone to goat, then put in lab because someone said to. But why? They dont need xp any more do they? Any time I take out out of the tube for some reason (check shipping, etc) I lose the connections. Why not just use Bear?

[opaque sun]

its more of working on altar, might as well lab

[untold saffron]

Those are some huge lab levels to only just be getting goat

[little harbor]

I started W5 4 weeks ago. was away ~250 days and left those guys in the lab

[opaque sun]

if you see to using them besides divinity, sure use something else

[little harbor]

Divinity is here. Should i keep pushing with Mantra, or could swap them all to bear and TranQui?

[untold saffron]

With your levels I'd push whatever the fastest points is to get the gods unlocked

You're an exception to usual advice with already being basically done with lab levels

[little harbor]

ok, thanks helpful. only at goat right now, even thought i have maxed out Bear blessing

[primal bison]

@feel mantra waste of time. Get the XP alchemy bubble up and push whatever your highest points AND xp. So yes tranqui

[little harbor]

tranqui is only xp right, no points?

[fast verge]

How does mantra exactly work? Does it add div xp to all characters as I claim afk on one?

[little harbor]

i think so?

[barren otter]

omg

finally got my 2nd wings

[lavish quiver]

Nice, just got my first about an hour ago

[fathom lagoon]

Damn so lava valuing one bottle at 40 gems

[barren otter]

55k keys

and ive gotten 2 capes

:)