lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[rustic garnet]

you just click open

and you can use the new 'split' mehcanic

to withdraw a max stack in seconds

[gentle furnace]

Scroll up

[high owl]

alright I'll work on it tonight

[rustic garnet]

Tons of anvil points, buy/trun in

[umbral tapir]

Yes, I have vman buff. It's what I meant by eclipse

[void pulsar]

thank yooou

[rustic garnet]

Your alch is abysmall

cmon

you aren't even trying

[high owl]

no! forreal? I thoguht my alch was alright. I'm constantly limited by liquids

[rustic garnet]

Get your bubo going

active bubo

you shouldn't be liquid limited

[signal osprey]

If you have the enhancement then they always apply to him regardless of levels. Most likely culprits would be transfusion fell off or maybe skilling food

[rustic garnet]

your alch is very very bad

[high owl]

dude forreal

[tacit tulip]

he's not pulling your leg

[rustic garnet]

Resynch your stuff and dont' forget to use

[high owl]

this is why I shouldn't be allowed to make my own decisions

[rustic garnet]

Your refinery is empty in many places

[dreamy spruce]

try to get your nblb to hit bubbles with hard mats, level the easy ones up yourself

[tacit tulip]

Here's a task for you:

Take each skilling thing you have. fish, ore, wood, bugs. Level up the appropriate bubble for that skill to 100k cost

then, take new samples and do it again for 1 mil

then again for 10 mil

[rustic garnet]

you are probably connected to wrong gods, I don't see the 3x and 2x bonuses

[tacit tulip]

If you do that you'll see your account explode with progress

[high owl]

I am blessed with doot

[rustic garnet]

your buildiung slook slack

[signal osprey]

No matter how much alchemy you do you will never be alright. Thats the way Legends of AlchOn is designed

[rustic garnet]

I don't see 6x bonus?

[tacit tulip]

public profiles don't show pets

that was sludgers stance on it

[rustic garnet]

max eggs

[high owl]

I'd like to not be "very very bad" though

[dreamy spruce]

I dont think companions show when you look at other ppls IE

[rustic garnet]

you don't have all your ggods unlocked, does that matter?

[tacit tulip]

only for levelling blessings

[signal osprey]

With doot you dont need to unlock them

[tacit tulip]

major/minor still applies

[rustic garnet]

k

[high owl]

I get major buffs but not minor. am time locked by a lot of these things you're mentioning

[rustic garnet]

slack

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/UphYTzs.png
crystal island loot

[dreamy spruce]

You still want purrmep and all the god for minor link right? or does doot also give minor link even if you dont have the god

[signal osprey]

Pretty sure you still get minor links too

[tacit tulip]

But yeah, my votes on "level your bubbles using skilling" and you'll see big boy gains

[rustic garnet]

trash slab, fix it

[high owl]

I think it might give base minor buff but still need to unlock to upgrade minor buffs

[umbral tapir]

Shit, food finally dropped.

So you're saying that with eclipse, it always applies? I misunderstood that it would apply when maestro was lower I guess?

[signal osprey]

You do need to unlock them to level up the blessing though

[rustic garnet]

you got some easy crap in here

[tacit tulip]

always

[high owl]

bruh that's not trash I have unlocked everything I can lol

[rustic garnet]

you have not

not even close

[umbral tapir]

Kk, I'm a dumb then. Thanks guys!

[dreamy spruce]

oh okay, would make sense if you get them

[signal osprey]

Well the hands are based on his levels and he cant really have a lower level than himself

So he just gets the buffs all the time

[rustic garnet]

you can't convince me you don't have any of these obols either

Put the obol in your obol storage if you don't have it earned but have it

[high owl]

I legitimately dont

[rustic garnet]

you don't have a BRONZE pickaxe or BRONZE miner pick?

[tacit tulip]

honestly slab is the least of his problems rn. Better to focus on one thing (alchemy)

[rustic garnet]

I'm sorry, but I can't do this anymore

[high owl]

nate ur getting so mad

[signal osprey]

Those are alch shop exclusive and he said he was struggling with liquid

Makes sense that he wouldnt be buying obols

[rustic garnet]

You do not have a SINGLE skill obol

[signal osprey]

No liquid means no obols

[rustic garnet]

focus on your Bubo active

[tacit tulip]

could definitely do with farming your dice/pop obol set

[rustic garnet]

and get CC moving

and get your pop/dice set too

[high owl]

ok

[void pulsar]

for shimmer, what star book is it referencing? just like, in general?

[rustic garnet]

a huge % all stat book

its g

'thicc stats'

[void pulsar]

wheres it drop from?

pls

[runic girder]

Whats the stats for max lvl?

[rustic garnet]

it depends on your damage

[signal osprey]

It drops from that purchase on shimmer

[rustic garnet]

it's 200 lvls and you get damage/power of 10

[signal osprey]

You have a 1% chance to get the book from buying that purchase for 3 shimmers

[runic girder]

I know but it has x% stats per pow 10

[signal osprey]

Its a gamble

[runic girder]

Whats the x ?

[void pulsar]

ooo, got it

[rustic garnet]

The x depends on your level of invest

not quite sure

[runic girder]

Well i asked lvl 200

[rustic garnet]

but it is going to be HUGE

I don't have it to hand

[tacit tulip]

It's something around 4% damage

for most

*all stat

[runic girder]

Ty

[rustic garnet]

that seems very low Roggireck, what is your atom boost?

[tacit tulip]

atom boost doesn'#t work on talents like that

[pulsar cliff]

Which atom boost sorry?

[rustic garnet]

ahhh really?

[pulsar cliff]

I'm being thick atm

[open cloak]

is this decent for GMUSH farming on bubo

[rustic garnet]

why not?

[signal osprey]

Atom power of 10 boost specifically says resources

[night yoke]

can I somehow check the biggest possible nugget for my level?

[tacit tulip]

it's talents that scale from "resources you own"

like the copper ore talent

[signal osprey]

It was given to us to make up for capping stacks because there were people sitting on trillions of coppor for mining efficiency

[runic girder]

Is this its own group? If its additive with some other bonuses it seems quite bad

[runic girder]

Ie

[pulsar cliff]

I don't really know, sorry. 😦

[runic girder]

Eh fair

[open cloak]

any recommendations on improvong my gmush farming? lmk if this is the wrong place https://mailmanoddbuff.idleonefficiency.com

[runic girder]

I guess its also gonna scale a lot more in future worlds

[signal osprey]

I would assume its additive with other sources of % all stats

Most of them are added together

[tacit tulip]

allstats% is just that strong

[signal osprey]

Tbh the book isnt that amazing especially if you're an hourly clicker

[dreamy spruce]

Why are you trying to farm gmush on bubo?

[runic girder]

More damage, more speed, more multikill per tier, more kpk

[signal osprey]

Most end gamers are getting a fairly small benefit from that talent

[night yoke]

where? I dont see it in gaming 🤔

[open cloak]

wrong? IDK who should I farm it on

[dreamy spruce]

SB/ES are best if afk

[open cloak]

i'm active

[runic girder]

Seeing the jump between w4 and w5 if that trend continues it will be better in later worlds

[dreamy spruce]

then ES is best I think, tho not sure

[open cloak]

ok

thx

[dreamy spruce]

but if you're active afk screen doesnt help that much

[tacit tulip]

you typically don't wanna active gmush as it's a terrible map

[signal osprey]

Yeah its not bad by any means its just that currently the best way to scale stats is through alch bubble 1 and those give total stats which arent boosted by % all stat buffs

[open cloak]

so afk it on ES?

[runic girder]

Thats fair

[signal osprey]

So all the people sitting on 30k+ main stat from hourly clicking are getting a small boost from % stats because half of their stats arent affect by it lol

[high owl]

thanks for the roast @rustic garnet that's exactly what I was looking for and it hurt just the right amount

[tacit tulip]

the first time is always the worst

[signal osprey]

In order to get good you have to first realize that youre bad

[rustic garnet]

You asked for a roast, not a coddle, you are welcome

[signal osprey]

[untold saffron]

whats the highest you can re-roll each DR obol to?

[dreamy spruce]

+1 from what it drops at

[untold saffron]

so 8 gold 11 blue 16 purple?

and pops are 3?

[dreamy spruce]

recently unlcoked shinies, should I fill my fenceyard with shinies or breedable pets until converter first?

[dreamy spruce]

silver pop is 4, but rest is right

[kind beacon]

Is thé mummie so op?

[crude zephyr]

does anyone have the chopping guide picture?

[runic girder]

Companion? Yes
Mini boss? Hes decent

[night yoke]

its crit - super crit - mega crit right?

[runic girder]

!chopchart

[runic girder]

No super crit

[kind beacon]

Just got him 😅

[night yoke]

ah okay

[runic girder]

You get crit at 0-100% at your crit damage and super crit at 101-200% thats 3 or 4x damage

On top of your crit damage

[dreamy spruce]

how do you guys split your furnaces? how many copper bars, how many iron bars etc are you melting at a time

[runic girder]

Just put in whatever i need

[night yoke]

I just dump one ore at a time

[coral goblet]

One ore at a time

[runic girder]

Then leave it until i need something else

[coral goblet]

Forever silver bars because multi chip bubble is aids

[dreamy spruce]

alright, thanks

[high owl]

wait pop obols only drop from gigafrogs? damn

[runic girder]

But theyre normal drops not bags or crystals so you can use ES for them

[high owl]

okay cool, shouldn't be too hard to farm then

[tacit tulip]

yup, used to be hell

people would burn candy to not waste time on it

[cunning vault]

Was there any ETA on companion trading?

Just got my 2nd doot, still missing the rift slug 😦

[tacit tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/money-crying-woody-harrelson-wiping-tears-with-money-gif-6945518

[willow drum]

no one cares

[frozen prairie]

just got my 50th bean!

[vocal ibex]

happened to me also i had to drop another 400 dollars to get slug

jk jk only like 30

[tacit tulip]

The meme was enough don't need to be mean

[cunning vault]

hopefully trading will allow us to help each other complete the set 🙂

[night yoke]

surely everyone wont have a full set by the time trading comes out

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[serene solstice]

yes baby

all artifacts are done

[cunning vault]

Grats

[high owl]

very nice

[bold quiver]

is there any hope that lava will fix coin display? or will it stay broken like afterlife / IE forever? as in has he ever said anything about it

[unreal forum]

The IOS update is out if people are looking for it

[vocal warren]

Do exp potions affect skill exp?

[tacit tulip]

no

[placid mural]

very happy with yesterdays sample run!

[fallen torrent]

the fishing ring given by the quest feel sad

or is it just me

[placid mural]

why? very good for sampling

[tacit tulip]

scaling depth to the harder fish is huge gains

will help with card farming too

[fallen torrent]

i mean like it feels, it isnt but

it feels sad but i know its not haha

[placid mural]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[old fable]

they aren't the coolest looking rings, if that's what you mean

[placid mural]

is 8 bottles a day the average when you have the gem pack and the questline finished?

[tacit tulip]

7-8 I'd imagine

6 was average just from quests and that's +60%

[placid mural]

currently when i check it says -7 but i havent finished the lvl 90 fishing req quest yet

[tacit tulip]

tbh I'm mostly still sulking about losing mine yesterday

[placid mural]

that really does suck

so im thinking (read hopeful) that the summer event, if it is similar to the spring event, shouldnt take long to "create" from an update standpoint

hopefully we wont have to wait too long for it

[tacit tulip]

wouyld be nice to get the summer cards finally

been playing since april last year and have none

[old fable]

well he only has a month-ish until summer is technically over, so

if he's sticking to the calendar

[lavish quiver]

How did you lose it?

[placid mural]

its crazy how much "catch-up" there is in this game because i just started playing this game in april of THIS year and i feel "largely" caught up with most of the later player base

[pearl cedar]

Leaving the map

It dissappears if you don't claim

[tacit tulip]

if you enter the map with the bottles you just...lose them

[lavish quiver]

oof glad i didnt do that, bad design

[placid mural]

and assuming he runs the event for 2 weeks like he did with the spring event, then that leaves 1 (minimum) to 2 (maximum) weeks for the summer event to drop

[tacit tulip]

So I saw the first quest, went to make a fishing bag, and lost the lot

[pearl cedar]

Glad we had testers testing things

[tacit tulip]

I didn't even see them tbh

tho todays one for me spawned off screen

[placid mural]

how did you get them? or did you miss those too?

[tacit tulip]

they were like, to the right by the portal

[pearl cedar]

It's nice because the bonuses are timegaited behind bottles so it just makes you have more content when you don't get to claim them

[tacit tulip]

so I picked them up, but they weren't visible when I loaded in

if I didn't know about them I could have missed them

[untold saffron]

whats considered good DR on an ES now?

[tacit tulip]

~20

[pearl cedar]

21x+

[tacit tulip]

maybe closer to 21

keeping in mind you shouldn't use midas with ES

[pearl cedar]

Depends on the map but yeah

[tacit tulip]

it's something like if you can reach a certain portal count then it's overall better right?

[untold saffron]

I'm pushing the high 17's, unsure what I'm missing

[heavy moth]

anyone with 20X dr can show me his detail please

[pure ferry]

what island should i buy?

[fathom lagoon]

iOS is up btw @viral snow

[pearl cedar]

Trash then shimmer recommended

[viral snow]

Finally

[pearl cedar]

Seasalt not that important in my opinion.

[fathom lagoon]

Most people doing it for slab & cards

[pearl cedar]

That's fair, but cards arent that important since you don't use that card set for sampling, and fishing samples always going to be behind copper anyways so not like the extra fishing eff/exp are going to help much anyways

And for vman damage you're going to hit a wall for trapping so high fishing level wont help much

[viral snow]

Still gettin blackscreen

[untold saffron]

is there a list anywhere of all DR sources? the only big boost I can think of I'm missing is the crystal custard

[dreamy spruce]

idleon insight then search drop rarity should show all

whats your current droprate?

[untold saffron]

17.5~~

on a mage

[dreamy spruce]

with the new bundle?

[untold saffron]

ye

no DR key chains either sadly

[dreamy spruce]

idk if the 17 other ppl have is with or without custard, but seems like you're there if its with

[heavy moth]

thats a good list for DR in IT

[fading dust]

With the new multiplicative DR boost, is Midas Minded now good with ES?

[sacred dove]

anyone has any recommendation to get lava skull to spawn at rift?

[fading dust]

Seems like an indirect buff to Midas Minded - if it is multiplied

[cobalt moat]

wait does having this on 2 chars stack?

i see. Which one does it count? the better one?

[rustic garnet]

Can I get a roast going? https://naterade.idleonefficiency.com/

[paper sail]

Whichever has the higher level, or possibly whichever has more REAL points invested 🤷

[dapper prism]

All of those talent type stuff is highest talent leveld. so same for dk gaming, es div etc.

[rustic garnet]

virtually nothing in game stacks when it says 'all chars'

[cobalt moat]

alright. Big thanks :D Noted ^^

[rustic garnet]

One thing to know, the SECOND BB is the only one that counts for 100m chow

[fading dust]

I would applaud you if you hadn't missed the Small Material Pouch in slab 🔥🔥🔥

[dapper prism]

Imagine stacking the SB DR 😄

[rustic garnet]

look again

[fading dust]

Jk tho - Good account nate

[rustic garnet]

I can't go back 😦

I'm stuck till new char! 😉

😦

[night yoke]

So thats my current setup. Im thinking of rotating who has the purrmep to power level divinity and the lab guys grind points. I've chosen omniphau over snek because it allows me to work on 2 things at once (if I need the mats I'll just candy). Miner has snek because Im not getting enough ores and I dont have enough ore/hr for it to be worth candying. Thoughts?

also last god is flutterbis

[dapper prism]

Miner not getting enough ores and using snek overall means the trouble is somewhere else

[rustic garnet]

Kob -- I honeslty don't think you should skip on the printer bonus

A major feature of 'end game' is massive printing

You want to do this

[dapper prism]

Not necessarily with atoms though o.o

[rustic garnet]

that is not with atoms (as shown by the wood going down 1000m)

I can do this every hour at my current rate

[dapper prism]

Yeh just stating, some people may think "oh this my goal, ill atom it"

[rustic garnet]

(I know)

it's a good distinction 🙂

[fathom lagoon]

Weird works for me. Did you update?

[night yoke]

he is a little underleveled and hadnt got his books upgraded for a long time (his current max levels 111 while he could have 191)

[molten flax]

If I wanted to farm W5 wood cutting cards is maestro or mage better?

[paper sail]

Buddy, what happened here.

[night yoke]

actually I probably could fix the library rn...

[novel salmon]

have a question i have unlink one of my chars in divinity but i cant relink him

[rustic garnet]

is this quest only completable once?

[novel salmon]

there is only a button unlink

[viral snow]

Yeh
have to restart phone i guess

[acoustic marten]

crystal first gang report in!

[viral snow]

Right here

[signal osprey]

Crystal first is awful though

[keen flame]

Anyone know how much total exp to get to divinity 40? Can't find it anywhere

[acoustic marten]

i didnt knoooooowwwww

[viral snow]

It really is

[viral snow]

https://imgur.com/UphYTzs

That was the loot from today

[rustic garnet]

I mean, there were so much hints in game that you should go trash first

it wasn't sneaky or secret

[signal osprey]

Wow just 1 hr candies

Thats even worse than I thought

[rustic garnet]

yeah, crystal is really, really bad by defeault

unless there is a sneaky secret drop

[viral snow]

That would require me to actually read carefully and not just click like a dummy

[rustic garnet]

or something we don't know about, it's just a standard mini boss

[signal osprey]

Its just crystals but with candy too

[rustic garnet]

yeah

I don't understand it

it feels like a filler island

[tacit tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[rustic garnet]

like 'I dont' know what to do, just put a giant crappy crystal mob that gives loot like doot'

[viral snow]

3 giant crystals today
Idk if it changes or accumulates over day

[tacit tulip]

I get a lot of use out of that gif

[worn trout]

Is it the DK that is better at getting stuff out of the rare bags? Or is it a different class?

[signal osprey]

I mean theres nothing wrong with having an island like that

[rustic garnet]

DK yes

[novel salmon]

how to link to a divinity god? i only see unlink?

[signal osprey]

Just not worth picking up early

[rustic garnet]

go on the char, stand on the pillar, click link

[tacit tulip]

if you only see unlink it means you're already linked

[rustic garnet]

if you aren't on the char that is unlinked, you can't link a linked guy

[novel salmon]

mh was think im on other chars thanksqq

[stiff prairie]

Apparently accumulated, so wait 100 days for 300 giant crystals and use DK on the map

[tacit tulip]

kill the mob and crash, losing everything

[stiff prairie]

Sounds about right

[signal osprey]

It will definitely have a cap assuming it does actually accumulate

[paper sail]

Bust out the Valentslimes

[viral snow]

Lava talked about having the same benefit from checking in once a day or once a day
So I would assume one week should accumulate

Im gonna leave it for a few@days and check if they stack

[round rapids]

Yo guys which island to unlock?

which to unlock first

[paper sail]

Trash > Shimmer > Seasalt

[round rapids]

meanwhile me who unlocked seasalt as the first island ever

[paper sail]

🤷

As long as you do those 3 first, you're probably not too bad off

[round rapids]

my Voidwalker fishing rn

i maybe actually should get him to farm snowflakes for himself

[vocal ibex]

It's not a bad grind it's easy flakes

Just did it last week

[paper sail]

ES would do it way, way faster than Vman would (assuming active farm)

[vocal ibex]

I need help getting a 50 thousand kiloton nugget. I've upgraded my shovel . . A lot

[paper sail]

Join the club

[vocal ibex]

Sweet I've been waiting for openings

:aaw_yeah:

[paper sail]

How high are you considering "a lot" for your shovel, by the way?

[rustic garnet]

compare your shovel with mine please.

do you still feel like yours is upgraded a lot?

[worn trout]

Would Bubo on a map that favors him do better for normal drops than an ES? I have been farming alch with his skills but also need some of the rarer resources that are not in the rare bag. Like Hamter?

[rustic garnet]

What drops are you aiming for?

Probably not.

[paper sail]

ES will still outperform Bubo like 5 to 1 if not worse

[rustic garnet]

Hamter is 100% ES

There is no 'face' drop that bubo does better, outside of keys (which I think DK wins)

keys for kattlekruck are a bit of an exception, at the moment

[worn trout]

For now just the Hampter comes to mind, needing to get more of the big bags for my peeps.

[rustic garnet]

as the wurm map scales high

ES is better

for Hamter

If you need alch progress, just do Bubo on wurms

and swap to ES for hamter farm

[worn trout]

When you say Alch progress on ES what do you mean? Right now I am active Bubo on OJ map where I am getting crazy outputs for alch using Aura -> Raise Dead -> Cranium Cooking. The number flashes so fast but I think i am getting like 3 days of alch progress per about 10 minutes

[rustic garnet]

Read the sentence

sorry

I need to read

fixed

[worn trout]

ok haha

makes way more sense now

[rustic garnet]

the only reason I could see for wanting a combo farm is to progress alch, while getting some hamter

but if your goal is more hamter... just do ES

[visual lynx]

How much damages to terminate w5 boss last form in seconds ?

[worn trout]

Yeah, you are reading my mind. I was asking for combo farming, but also just because where I am at progress wise. My bubu is my strongest, so I haven't seen the power of the ES yet.

[gloomy whale]

I have world 5 town unlocked only on 3 characters, 2 of which did not have the w4 boss item. Other than bossing (key limited), how can I unlock world5 for my other characters?

[worn trout]

Uh.. unless its a bug I don't think you need to unlock any of the worlds per character. I was able to take all my guys starting in world 1 to the next world by just going through the portal with them.

That continued to be the case for me all the way to world 5.

[dreamy spruce]

you can't go there with TP from the start I think, but the portal is just open for all chars

[buoyant valley]

you can farm w4 colo for w4 boss keys

[wind umbra]

whats the sweet spot level for dk orb?

[grand karma]

267 i think it was

or smrh like that

or like 310 next

[wind umbra]

ty i thought it was around that range just wasnt sure

[placid mural]

i feel like i have had the most insane luck to even get to these odds of a giant spawn. . . .

[rustic garnet]

It goes up quicker than it seems it should

I don't know if this is the true spawn chance

but I doubt I've ever killed 1 million active in a week and I've gotten past this nearly every week

[sharp igloo]

How do you raise forge capacity? Every 2 minutes my SB fills it up, but it only gives me 17k iron and 30k copper bars each time, which seems pretty low

[wind umbra]

there is achievement in w5 that increases by 50%

[sharp igloo]

Ah thanks. Ive heard of people having millions of bars in there at once, how is that possible?

[gloomy whale]

this was it - I have to walk through the portal manually the first time on each character

[noble mesa]

Dont know abote milions but u can get more from arcide 2

[sharp igloo]

Okay thanks

[rustic garnet]

lotto ball shop

[rustic garnet]

Is there really a bar limit? I didn't think there was

its the thing on the left that is capped

not the thing on the right

[runic girder]

Not that im aware

[sharp igloo]

When I claim 2 minutes of afk, it goes to 30k copper bars per slot, but if I claim 10 hours of afk, its still 30k per slot

[high owl]

doesn't construction arm auto-deposit bars into storage?

[wind umbra]

im not quite sure what increases the bar per slo, but if i had to guess it might depned on the bag size you have

[wind umbra]

oonly happens on daily reset

[high owl]

ah

[paper sail]

The issue is not the bars. It is the amount of Ore that can be held in the slot on the left. It is always an issue that you can't really get around.

there was a capacity increase in the gold ball shop before the current patch, rip

[wind umbra]

oh so each afk claim only uses the ore thats in the slot and it doesnt auto refill?

[paper sail]

Correct. The ore is only refilled once upon AFK claim. It will not refill multiple times

[wind umbra]

damn that sucks lol

[paper sail]

Even if I AFK for a year, I'll only come back to that 22.6k ore being smelted, no more.

[wind umbra]

does the card drop chance from forge tied to the amount of claims that u do and not the amount of bars?

it seems that on my chars with low bar cap i get way more cards than if i just pick up the bars in one click

[viral vigil]

Does anyone have the old sheet guide with pet arena formations?

[wind umbra]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/edit#gid=1286504271

[viral vigil]

Ty

[frozen prairie]

what tower levels should i need for 121+ goblin?

[uncut bear]

So, bubo with fisticuffs is a thing now?

[wind umbra]

the guide above has recommended lvls,but it could still be doable with a bit lower

[wind umbra]

yup to spread aura better

[somber sparrow]

how do you get him to wear them tho?

or do you mean boxing gloves?

[wind umbra]

ye boxing gloves

stingers better tho

tiny bit more damage lol

[scarlet bay]

finally

[untold saffron]

can buy seasalt island once my bottles from the giveaway come in

[vocal ibex]

What give away

Where was I at I want some

Wtf

Meme me me choose me

[untold saffron]

the one from yesterday

80 bottles of gains

[vocal ibex]

Wtf wow how what no

[untold saffron]

these last couple days have been my best luck in 6 months

doot, godshard arcade jackpot, pendant double first gamble and giveaway win

[vestal yew]

whats the lowest people get card drop chance to? So annoying to farm these things

[feral hemlock]

Guys can i ask if i should do Omar quest on all chars for more bottles, does it work like that?

[vocal ibex]

How do I actually apply I tried following

[untold saffron]

they're account bound not character

[feral hemlock]

I see thanks. So i wasted my candies on sb q.q

[coral goblet]

successful boss kills ✅

[empty glade]

I noticed that div offerings change, i got a 50% chance one, is there a 100% chance one or something liké that?

[vocal ibex]

So do I click the like button and I'm in?

[sharp vine]

Yes, spend div points on 1-5% to roll til you find a 100% then save up for that to guarantee unlock

[empty glade]

Ok ty

[paper sail]

Left side will be 1, 5, or 10%. Right side will be 25, 50, or 100%. I personally only ever did the left side options 🤷

[sleek fulcrum]

For W5 boss, what’s the preferred farming difficulty ?

[empty glade]

So its def Always better to Roll left till u get 100% on right?

[paper sail]

I still went left, even when 100% was offered on the right

Up to how spicy you feel though with RNG

[empty glade]

Oh lol

[sleek fulcrum]

I saved for the 100% personally

[empty glade]

Well i got to w5 2 days ago, afked for like 22 hours and rolled 25 till i got my first div, about to log in After like another 20 hours

[sleek fulcrum]

I’m not as daring as Scoli lol

[paper sail]

Assuming you have the quest, Nightmare until you get all 10 wing drops across unique characters for the Trophies

[empty glade]

Did you drop them on the ground and pick them up?

If you craft something for example it wont count untill you drop it and pick it up

Should be the same

Unless you picked it up from the ground it wont count

[paper sail]

It's all a gamble. You could buy the 10% chance and still fail it 20 times, thus costing more. But you might also get it on the first try and save 90% of the cost 🤷

[empty glade]

Oh believe me, i learn that from alchemy

Rolled 12% on bubble got it first Time, rolled like 20 Times on 35% to get it

[paper sail]

It happens lol

[empty glade]

Knowing my luck, i'll just go for 100% on div

[paper sail]

The cost is even across the percentages, so I preferred to gamble. A 10% try costs 10% of a 100%

[empty glade]

To be fair i'm kinda lucky in this game, got sheep custard and ram for free

[paper sail]

You didn't get 3x Bored Beans and then 4x Moltis? Lucky you

[empty glade]

No lol

[round pulsar]

I sold my crystal purple pet once i got the brown guy because i tought we kept all passive if you had a rarer pet... Anything i can do lol ?

[empty glade]

I think i got 2 bored beans and 2 slimes though

I dont have frog and one other common pet

[paper sail]

Wait til character #11

[empty glade]

Is that the quest item he gives u to give the first npc in w1 town ? If so then you Can reclaim that one

If its free then cant be traded

[paper sail]

Huh, sure enough.

[green eagle]

just spent most of my afternoon increasing stamp levels until i ran out of money lol

got to this level, think that was roughly 1500 levels gained. not 100% sure, might be a little less

actually this level, IE is slow lol

i do remember this being at only 57% chance not too long ago though, now it is almost a 1 a day for sure

skills had a lot of stamps that i could patch up

[paper sail]

Soon ™️

[coral goblet]

how does this work? whats the divine cape

i got the cape

[tacit tulip]

you have to get the drop on the character that has the quest active

[coral goblet]

yikes

[paper sail]

The quest must be active on the character before the cape drops. The cape must drop FOR that character - You cannot trade it around.

[tacit tulip]

kinda the same as how ghosts work in the w2 key quest

[feral hemlock]

Whats better to redo everything on mman or bb, i think mman fishing is 85 currently

[wind umbra]

pretty sure its best to do on mman so u dont lose hand bonus

[untold saffron]

it doesn't matter what character you do the quests on

[icy current]

Fun game so far, new player

[somber sparrow]

this might be the wrong channel for u then

[icy current]

Yea, I feel like I chose language in Portuguese

[tacit tulip]

haha

#newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ is gonna be your best starting point

[icy current]

Ty

[tacit tulip]

the game evolves considerably as you progress, nothing said here would make sense

[untold saffron]

can you reroll divine obols to give more afk gain/dmg?

[paper sail]

Kruk sparkles? Yes

[somber sparrow]

got extremely lucky once

[near mist]

Do the moles in the W5 boss increase in life on higher difficulty or only the boss itself?

[tacit tulip]

hard to say cause of my damage at the time but pretty sure they had set life

they spawn more frequently tho

[sly plank]

can dice obols reroll from 5% to 6% drop?

[bold quiver]

OK so does anyone know why this happen?
Here is the scenario:
I have 2 food slots of 289 on my character. 1 low level food 1 high level food. 100% surviv etc,
If i use 1h candy 120 of the lowest food gets consumed,
If i use 2h candy 240 food of the worst food is consumed.
But if i stay afk for more than 2h, like 2h10-2h-30 all my food gets consumed.... and i will get the lack of food msg

[paper sail]

You still use food?

[bold quiver]

yes

[iron sonnet]

always use highest possible food, don't think about overhealing - in afk there are other rules and raw food power matters

[tacit tulip]

it's like x hits per minute vs raw healing amount in same time for calculations

been forever since I'd seen it discussed

[paper sail]

AFK is big dumb. You can try to suffer through this video if you really just gotta know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKmLrY4-yX4

[bold quiver]

i do know how it works

i do not understand why the rule of 120 is respected but if it goes above 2h all is consumed (cuz i dont have a big slot for 3h of 120

[fading dust]

Anyone else think fighting Amarok was more fun than Kattlekruk?

[paper sail]

Your slot isn't 360.

[bold quiver]

all bosses after efaunt are a joke and should not exist

[fading dust]

tbh chizoar was kinda fun too

[terse yacht]

I mean Troll was unique i guess

[paper sail]

Maybe also just make a bag? 400 is like W2 capacity

[bold quiver]

yeah its kinda fun, but it messes the thrill of dying

like efaunt and amarok

[fading dust]

amarok fuked me up early hahaha

[bold quiver]

if i could make a bag i would =/

[iron sonnet]

dunno, Im fine with 4x 280 stacks pushing w5

[bold quiver]

do u use automation arm

[iron sonnet]

Do you have automation arm?

[bold quiver]

if i did i wouldnt ever be having food problems right '.'

[iron sonnet]

I got my early unto w4, how are you withiut it in w5?

[little pagoda]

Yeah use automation arm and fill storage, it eliminates the problem

[bold quiver]

im at w4

weak

[paper sail]

So many problems to unpack

[bold quiver]

only food =/

[iron sonnet]

So the only advice - craft best possible bags you can get, buy the best food you can (dont worry about gold), and push automation arm to 2 asap

[bold quiver]

the stats are good for w4. kinda on the low end but its good

[paper sail]

No it isn't lol

[little pagoda]

Defence is kinda low too

[bold quiver]

still havent unlocked more anvil, so cant craft food packs

[paper sail]

These are all your own problems that you can fix.

[bold quiver]

they are unrelated, i was more troubled with the food mistery

stats are decent

[little pagoda]

Maybe it works different for candy, who knows

[fading dust]

wus going on with food?

[bold quiver]

this

[tacit tulip]

brave is cosplaying being a noob again

[bold quiver]

cant understand why after 2h all my food vanishes

doesnt make sense that the next slots isnt consumed normaly

[iron sonnet]

Well, you need a pause and get some anvil and crafting, in 2-3 days of all chars skilling you will be ok

[bold quiver]

if i afk 2h it consumes 240 from 1 slot, perfectly. If i afk for 2h 20 minutes all food is gone, other slot of 289 consumed instantly

[bold quiver]

cant get anvil crafting, smithing 30 yet

trying to get that up but it takes time i guess

[tacit tulip]

that video you didn't want to watch explains that btw

[fading dust]

I'm pretty sure its because you now have only 1 food

[bold quiver]

i have all items to craft that anvil, im only missing the skill and 2000 platinum bars lol

[old fable]

have you tried just using higher level food (W4 vendor)? higher food has better offline calcs even though it doesn't make sense

[fading dust]

So then your survivability goes down/food consumption goes up with 1 food slot filled

[tacit tulip]

only 1 food gets used at a time for normal afk, but as soon as you run out of one food it brings the other into the calculation and realises it needs to be using these too

[bold quiver]

hmm that was my assumption from how things were looking

it will consume the final 49 from weak food pack, reach 0 but cuz of that it automaticaly also consumes again 289 from other place probably

stupid food

[fading dust]

i found that food was expensive when I first got to W4

[bold quiver]

right? so expensive

[fading dust]

new player problems - welcome Nitiz

[bold quiver]

but i buy cheese so its fine

[empty glade]

This is normal?

[fading dust]

cheese is the goat

[tacit tulip]

happens from tiem to time

game loads the wrong stats to the item description, it works as normal

[empty glade]

Cheese dont do nothing for my dk lol

Also what do i push with now? Got to w5 2 days ago, i did w2 w3 on barb then w4 on dk

[tacit tulip]

dk is a solid choice

DK< bubo, and ES are the three really useful classes

[empty glade]

I Saw some using bubo or is that for really high damage

[tacit tulip]

bubo is great when you have the damage to one-tick with poison, which you typically won't have at your stage

ES is really good at farming out materials for greenstacks and bubbles, and is something you should consider instead of pushing w5

[bold quiver]

every class u try wil be very weak at w5 probably so it doesnt matter much. But one of the slowest classes to push portal is ES

[empty glade]

So Switch to ES, gotcha

[fading dust]

I recommend active playing ES, but I like ES

[empty glade]

I dont plan on pushing w5 any Time soon, i mean there is no point

[bold quiver]

same, i wanted to progress fast so i played ES only

[empty glade]

I havent even made tab 4 anvil yet

[bold quiver]

bubo and DK need too high investment to do anything decent

[tacit tulip]

you'd be surprised how many try and force their way through

[empty glade]

I'm still rocking dementia and ice weapons

[fading dust]

I'd push levels in W5 tbh - more pts for talents and everything once you get nobi

[green eagle]

how do you not have the ability to make a bag higher than that and you're in w5 chat brother

wtf

[tacit tulip]

yeah no harm in levelling up a bunch while you're still low on talent points

[bold quiver]

too weak

[tacit tulip]

like I said he's cosplaying being a noob

[empty glade]

2 divs in 2 days is good progress?

[fading dust]

He's a fat endgamer making a F2p account

[tacit tulip]

pretty good yeah, it'll slow down

[bold quiver]

i did a new acc, got to w4 in 5 days, just chlling

f2p (only autoloot)

[empty glade]

Well people told me to get Bear and i got it, now what ? Keep having all characters on div?

[bold quiver]

also only afk pushing, never killed stuff active '.'

[green eagle]

but.. but you are further than me

[tacit tulip]

Either stick a bunch on bear to get your other things in order (like levelling up class/skill levels and gathering materials) or keep pushing to goat

[bold quiver]

its another acc

i had one acc that i had created a month ago or so stuck ar frogs with 3 charactres lvl 20ish

[empty glade]

I'm still using 250 bag so idk what u guys mean

[fading dust]

How is storage space as a F2Per

[bold quiver]

so i just played and pushed to w4 in 5 days and thats it, trying to do stuff

[bold quiver]

good and bad

[empty glade]

Pain, very painful

[bold quiver]

so far no problems with storage

[tacit tulip]

eventually you'll want bigger bags not for food, but for gold food stacks

[bold quiver]

w4 money helped me buying w3 slots so i got some spare now

[empty glade]

I'm upgrading storage in construction like 24/7 and still having to use some of my characters as storage

[bold quiver]

yeah its a pain

either u buy gem shop storage or nothing u can do

[empty glade]

Oh also when Can i finally start grinding money with bubo for these w5 stones

[fading dust]

Lava likes inconveniencing us :[

[bold quiver]

u "have" to buy around 7 gem shop storage to hold everything

[tacit tulip]

It's probably possible now you'll just need to pick an earlier map. Try cans (w4) or moustaches (w3)

[bold quiver]

its been 2 days im on a journey to get this lol

[empty glade]

Aight ty

[tacit tulip]

the goal is to have tenteye, poison, and the revive skill

later on aura takes over

[empty glade]

Oh also is the abil for es that gives extra XP work just for es or all characters? Cuz its only working for es it seems like

[tacit tulip]

that one? Should bne all

[empty glade]

Weird

Cuz everyone is getting 30 points 30 XP then my es got 30 points 80 xp

Well Gear wise what should i be going for now? Void with chiz helm or go straight to troll? I'm still on dementia

[tacit tulip]

I haven't touched the altar in like...6 months. so can't help there 😄

I'd strongly consider going for chiz on at least one character first

troll is expensive - 10k black salt

it's the path to greatness, but I doubt you can afford that right now

[empty glade]

Well considering i just started making green salts yeah i think i'll go for chiz/void

And now that i think about it, i should probs get 10th character

[tacit tulip]

definitely

even if you do nothing at all with it, it's another warm body doing divinity

[empty glade]

Also i just realized i'm an idiot for not using the ability that wizard has for multi kill

That just gave a really nice boost to my prints

[tacit tulip]

Eventually you'll get a vman and he'll be your boy for monster mat printing

[wind umbra]

if u have points in this it works for div

[empty glade]

Oh yeah i do

Oh also from the thing that es has for extra XP to everyone

Since i have 2 es, does it stack?

[wind umbra]

dont think it stacks

[tacit tulip]

takes the biggest one

[empty glade]

Ah so dont bother wasting points

[wind umbra]

pretty sure all acount wide skills dont stack

[empty glade]

Well ty for all the help

[opaque sun]

all family-wide buffing talents dont stack

[coral goblet]

should i afk for the suggma recipe or active with drop rate?

[earnest pebble]

!island

[opaque sun]

active is roughly worth like 20 guys on afk for recipe farming

[green eagle]

new fishing spot on vman when i actually use fish food lmao

[untold saffron]

blood barbarian active xp seems mad slow

[twin token]

That's bc his active kills are slow

Bc he has no revival mechanic

[tawdry epoch]

Gratz on the bottle, was the 80 enough for third island ?

[untold saffron]

cheers lad, ye got 3 islands now

[little pagoda]

Did anyone post the new bribes?

[wind umbra]

pretty sure they are on the wiki now

[little pagoda]

yeah maybe let me see

They are, thanks

Cheapest one costs 8 lustre ouch

Ah no ok there's a cheaper one for fishing effiency, that's pretty good

[untold saffron]

if the barbarian has no respawn skills is it actually better to train him active or afk?

need to level him from 405 to 425

[pulsar cliff]

AFK imo, he'll hit it eventually.

If you really need to level him asap, active with Moonmen and what not.

Card^ Not at moonmen.

[sick sentinel]

Ye quickest is active with crystal spawn and exp while active stuff

Still a slog

[lament jasper]

should i wait more ?

[little pagoda]

How are your donuts and pizzas? That chance seems low but maybe it just is like that

[lament jasper]

I don't even have donuts yet

[little pagoda]

Probably should try to get it, I'm a bit behind you on breeding but have donuts

It's like +150% chance if you have enough cooking speed

[lament jasper]

Tried to get new recipes but got RNG'ed like 4 times in a row on a 60

[little pagoda]

Do you have the spices for it? Then keep trying

[lament jasper]

I guess i'll just level up pizza twice and pray

[little pagoda]

Get donut, it's good

[lament jasper]

ye but it takes a whiiiiile

And with this and new multiplier W2 is gonna be easy af

[little pagoda]

How many ladles/day? How is your diamond chef and your diamond plates?

[lament jasper]

about 100 ladles

[little pagoda]

Cooking is easier than it seems if you focus on it

I could do 1 ladle/donut attempt when I unlocked it

[lament jasper]

tf mine is not that fast

[little pagoda]

What is your table 1 speed?

Mine it at 20.6m

[lament jasper]

466 xD

[little pagoda]

What do you mean lol

[lament jasper]

466K

[little pagoda]

Welll

I think you gotta work a bit on cookign before spending all those eggs

I don't even have half your egg capacity

[lament jasper]

My BB is perma cooking though

[lament jasper]

I had the spare gems for the capacity upgrad

[molten flax]

If I want to farm W4/5 Woodcutting cards is maestro or mage better?

[stable kayak]

Does Nobisect affect Zow and Chow?

[little pagoda]

yeah

zow and chow is based on death note afaik]

[stable kayak]

Ohhhh, Thank you!

[little pagoda]

Well not death note but how many death note you got with BB

Can check his kills on cards

[little pagoda]

So you already have a huge multiplier from the gems so should probably stack food buffs for a bit more

Trust me you want to focus cooking

[lament jasper]

ik ik i'm cooking

[little pagoda]

If you have diamond chef

Diamond all the plates you can and also try to get best cabbage/corndog/egg you can

[lament jasper]

wait how diamond chef

[little pagoda]

Diamond chef alchemy bubble

Yellow cauldron

[lament jasper]

wtf i leveled up a bit i had the spare spice i went from 570 to 836K poggers

[little pagoda]

Yeah keep investing in all cooking speed you can

New recipe cooking speed is good too

Also if you don't have it cooking speed jewel will be available in 2 days

[lament jasper]

yup i know i'm patiently waiting for it lol

[little pagoda]

Same

But honestly you can increase your speed by a looot

And then you can easile get a 2x or more multiplier for new pet chance

From pízzza and donut combined

[steel dagger]

Does Cranium Cooking take Multikill or Kill per Kill into account?

[lament jasper]

prob gonna start working on chow

[little pagoda]

Mine is giving me 120% each roughly

[little pagoda]

I don't think so otherwise meta would be gmush

[flint viper]

what type of captains should i be looking for mostly?

[little pagoda]

speed and loot is what I heard but don't quote me on that

[flint viper]

when you get the speed modifiers up high enough tho does speed even matter since there is a cap to how fast you can get to an island

[pulsar cliff]

Loot is at the end king.

[little pagoda]

Later island require a lot of speed though

But yeah maybe at some point you might not need it at least on most ships you won't

[fathom lagoon]

Don’t know what happened but my cooking went from 300m to 1.1b lol

[pulsar cliff]

Some of my ships hit the last island in an hour 40, no speed booss lol.

[flint viper]

does arti chance even make a dent in the chances?

[pulsar cliff]

VMan points? Or did you just tip the scale on meals??

[little pagoda]

Well then go loot

[pulsar cliff]

Yup

[fathom lagoon]

I think my game might be bugging cause my vman afking rn on his attack preset so no bone marrow on it but was skilling earlier so maybe it just snapshotted when he was on his skill preset lol which has marrow at 155

[flint viper]

so arti chance is a wash too?

[pulsar cliff]

Pretty much?

The chances are just so tiny later that ...

[opaque sun]

its not a bad captain trait to have to prepare for the next batch of artifacts that lava might add

When you are done getting all eldritch and mostly finished upgrading ships, its not like you have much uses for loots

Getting a 0.01% to 0.02% is sure just an 0.01% increase, but it also can be seen as “2x more faster to get artifacts than someone not using that”

[scarlet bay]

that's a nice increase

[vagrant mountain]

damn i thought this was gonna be multiplicative, turns out it gave me 5% dmg

[errant stratus]

do characters have to stay on the div alter to earn points to gamble for the gods?

[steel dagger]

yes

[errant stratus]

ty

[ember abyss]

4 garbage a day? Is the value random or is that standard? I have just the first +10% upgrade.

[gritty sierra]

Where's this person getting 400m xp for fishing

[opaque sun]

the range of possible garbages you can get is upgraded, but there are some rng how much exactly you get

[twilit goblet]

this love and hate relationship with resampling

speaking of which bros im hitting >1b oaks per mage for all 3 mages, should i just hourly click the logs bubble now?

[heavy moth]

i can finaly stop farming kattle 3 divin necklace and 3 divine trophy later

[undone steeple]

is snail a daily reset thing? does it not get mail via gaming progression from procs or chemical plants?

[opaque sun]

Its on your daily shop reset

Fertilizer and chems do nothing for snails

[coral goblet]

Damn it’s that bad?

[opaque sun]

additive to some other relatively big damage source

[eager ridge]

what should i be buying from acorn shop?

[heavy moth]

so pretty

[glad mountain]

is pearl vial good?

like worth to farm for

[crisp silo]

You done with everything?

Its like a decent bonus, but it still costs ungodly amounts of raredrops

[dapper prism]

Price goes up on both, so it's kinda a balance tbh

Start with the left one first a little

[eager ridge]

ok

[dapper prism]

Ffs i am so severely unlucky with trash island...
Day one about 15ish trash and day 2 i think even less
2 days and i've only gotten 27 trash, others getting 30-40ish on day xD

[willow cairn]

What stat is general valued highest for captains in sailing? I assume that between loot and artifact chance it depends on if you've gotten all the artifacts, but what about rare chest chance?

[heavy moth]

at what dmg is midas ok on ES

[dapper prism]

Never

Maybe on very very low maps, but you'd have to math out the difference in portals, highly doubt it would ever be worth in w4/5 for now

It's great on stuff like DK wurm grind or even later on bubo when u 1 shot stuff, can combine it with jawbreaker for more coins

[heavy moth]

so to test it out if per exemple i get 150 w/o midas and i get 135w/ midas how to math it out 😛

[iron nymph]

how do I turn off auto-refilling food again

[wind umbra]

w3 automation arm

[iron nymph]

ty

[dapper prism]

Think base DR times (your Wormhole DR x wormhole kills) ?

[gloomy bobcat]

what's a good multikill % to be working on eclipse skulls with?

[dapper prism]

I wouldn't even really touch it under 5m

[gloomy bobcat]

I'm active with this one. AFK build would look very different

[raven vale]

@dapper prism Would you mind looking over IE and giving me some goals?
Just kinda cruising hunting artifacts and farming obols

[dapper prism]

I only started it when my offline kph was around here:
The initial number is when i checked the kph on every mob before starting, the numbers in the back is when i actually did the grind on those mobs and their actual kph

https://i.imgur.com/4v04Ew9.png

[tawdry steeple]

I would suggest over 10m kph oon gmush before even attempting eclipse

[dapper prism]

Sorry just got home and want to chill a bit, started Rs Necromancy.

You can DM it to me and i can check it if/when i have time (when i do afk stuff)

[dapper prism]

Unless you have doot

[heavy moth]

Ill try that and ill try the ES sheeet

[gloomy bobcat]

Does doot vastly change active kills?

[dapper prism]

Not really but you free up 4-5 chars from lab and can use those to afk eclipse

[twilit goblet]

just nuked my stash to 15m via atom collider, not sure if it's the new pc or a misclick

[opaque sun]

showing afk info on your active really doesnt help us tell your killing capability

[dapper prism]

Had 7-9ish alts running eclipse, 5m+ kph meant 1 day per eclipse for most of w1.

[gloomy bobcat]

Ah yeah I suppose so. I'm using all my other chars for farming items right now (except vman for skill levels) and only activing gmush rn

[dapper prism]

Just keep atom collider off at all times, it will convert anything above 1050m stacks

[twilit goblet]

it was always at 1050 but somehow it switched to 15m just now when i opened it on the browser on laptop

[opaque sun]

Turning on collider is basically just self imposing penalty of “lower chest cap size”

[twilit goblet]

does turning it on/off cause it to reset to 15m?

[worthy gyro]

How does dice obols combine? Do i need to reroll both of them? Does it work the same way silver -> gold and gold -> plat?

[twilit goblet]

lul yea i might need to print some refinery mats in a couple of days again

[opaque sun]

off is same as on at 1050m

[wary girder]

whats the strat for unlocking islands? is there a pin somewhere

[twilit goblet]

oh off is same as on at 1050?

auto converts after

lmao im turning that off rn

[opaque sun]

15m makes it so it also converts those high value materials to atom at the same rate as copper

Atom doesnt care how much a single item is worth

[gloomy bobcat]

Do the new fish give much better exp? I'm sick of grinding medium fish lmfao

[twilit goblet]

[opaque sun]

Large fish seems like 100x better exp than kraken pools

[wary girder]

oh wow really

well im getting that island 2nd for my vman then

[twilit goblet]

shimmer much better still than fishing island? im fishing on kraken spot rn and its like 20 hours per level or something

in terms of priority i guess

[opaque sun]

Its just a choice. Not like one is strictly better

[dapper prism]

fish island may be better tbh

[twilit goblet]

whats the weekly reward on shimmer again?

[wary girder]

does shimmer unlock a new fish spot too?

[opaque sun]

Seasalt allows to easily raise fish levels to 90 and also finish the last quest for bottle speed

[twilit goblet]

if its like not that big i might just go fishing island to speed up fishing

[gloomy bobcat]

Hmm that's tough. Idk which 2nd island to shoot for tbh

[dapper prism]

shimmer is for weekly, base stats and star talent
seasalt is for fishing spots (quest row, fish xp etc)

[opaque sun]

Shimmer offers like one more week worth of shimmer upgrade points

[dapper prism]

more quests done = more bottles a day

[opaque sun]

In a grand shceme of things, you will still get the island you diddnt get as 2nd as a 3rd island

[twilit goblet]

yea i think ill go 2nd island fishing

and compensate by hourly clicking in the futur

future*

[opaque sun]

So its like a fight between 10 more bottles, or 7-8 more shimmer points

[dapper prism]

Yeh, either you fall behind a week in shimmers but also, faster bottles if u go fish island first

Issue is, shimmer weekly can be damn terrible

[twilit goblet]

surely hourly clicking stats gives more benefit than what shimmer can give

[dry sluice]

Ok I've been pn these fire genies for like, weeks now, what can I do

[dapper prism]

Some people getting the weekly that gives like 5-10ish shimmers, others getting an easy one with 30-40ish shimmers

[opaque sun]

Dont sleep on shimmer upgrades tho

the efficiency and total damage is kind of nice

[twilit goblet]

any consensus on best stats on shimmer to upgrade at the moment?

[opaque sun]

And the base stats gets affected by % buffs unlike bubble 1

[twilit goblet]

you'll be intrigued to see moles and crawler portal counts

[wary girder]

thats my exp gained at the large fish where at medium fish it was about 132k LMAO

[twilit goblet]

lmao i am so

getting

2nd island fishing

[dry sluice]

How has anyone beat kattle

[dapper prism]

and new spot people have shown/said 100-1b xp/h

[twilit goblet]

cause fishing is gating my vman dmg anyway

lowest level

[opaque sun]

efficiency is the best upgrade on shimmer, but do note the total damage is like an independent damage multiplier pool

[young blade]

when to start trying for t6 plants?

[wary girder]

oh yeah this exp is probably dogmeat compared to some people

[wary girder]

exact same here

[dapper prism]

got chems?

[opaque sun]

Class exp upgrade sucks tho. Flat addition

[young blade]

like what are the reqiorements for it to be slightly viable

[young blade]

yeah and snail

[dry sluice]

I have a decently ok account, and I'm not even past these stupid fire genius

[twilit goblet]

only my bubo is past fire and it took a lot of hours of active bubo

aura-ing them to death

[dapper prism]

Chem definetely a must have for t6 grind.
3min plant cycle was about 150 days average per t6.
6 min is 300ish days if i remember correct.
That's while holding 10ish of the same plant at T5's

[young blade]

alchemy is the key guys

[wary girder]

anyone know where you get the greenbox lure for fishing?

[young blade]

holy shit

[dapper prism]

Thats why you chem + log combo

At the end its basically 2-3 days

[young blade]

wtf are your logs? mine are max 1 day or so in avg and you cant alwais chain with chems

[young blade]

do you go active

??

[dry sluice]

I can try for a few hours,

[dapper prism]

Just gotta chem better
https://i.imgur.com/RUNIJso.png

[dry sluice]

Have done some, but mostly idle

[dry sluice]

What. The hell.

That must have taken ages

[dapper prism]

My log is 30-35% chance for free chance again.

[dry sluice]

I'm assuming log is where you start to get big numbers reasonably fast

[vernal gulch]

I’m hoping so I just got it and god I’ve been slow moving

[dry sluice]

Is it rng or skill?

[dapper prism]

biggest change is chem

[vernal gulch]

Yes

[dapper prism]

but chem+log combo is amazing

[opaque sun]

log alone is like meh, but when you get the holy trinity of sprinkler, chem and log makes it an endless combo

[dry sluice]

I never get chem istg

[vernal gulch]

I can’t get Chem ;-;

[cloud zenith]

someone gets their Drop Rate is 20x++, what make the rate go higher than 13-14x since the update?

[dapper prism]

Save up some chems, then make it a combo

[dry sluice]

Haven't gotten any in s hot sec

[dapper prism]

Bundle in gem shop 1.20x multi on DR

So 10x would be 12x or 15x becomes 18x
https://i.imgur.com/F2Rkcww.png

[vernal gulch]

I don’t even have it unlocked

[dry sluice]

I hate lava sm, but this game is good

[opaque sun]

Also arcade has a drop rate rotation for like 10-20% dr

[dry sluice]

^

[opaque sun]

To reach 20+, you need like 16-17x pre update tho

[dry sluice]

So I just need to activefk a fuck ton to make it past spirits

[cloud zenith]

Does it mean it only works on Divine Knight?

[dapper prism]

Huh, no

[dry sluice]

Like bro, I can 1 shot most nightmare bosses

[opaque sun]

its basically adding another plunder kill bonus

[dapper prism]

Account wide, 1.20x more DR on every character, similar to the SB talent from plunderous which was the only DR multiplier until this gemshop bundle

[opaque sun]

1.2x more gains in active and afk combat is quite substantial

[dapper prism]

How do i claim daily bottles, just came to the dock (first time since reset) and no bottles on ground, talked to npc and nothing

[opaque sun]

If you visited island and left, its gone i heard

[dry sluice]

Lava better nerf the portal kill number

3 million is too fucking much

[dapper prism]

yeh heard that to, but thats why i didnt enter docks until right now, and nothing showed up

[opaque sun]

common mistake is you visit island, and open gem shop to see if there is anything related to island, just to lose bottles

[dry sluice]

^

[dapper prism]

None of that, just literally entered docks for the first time today since reset

[dry sluice]

I'm sorry G

[pearl cedar]

Bottles are floating in water

Have heard they can spawn off map though

[opaque sun]

Also if you dont visit for the first time, it doesnt start the bottle timer i suppose

[dry sluice]

Like how does he expect anyone at all to make it to the end of w8

When w5 has 10s of millions of necessary kills

[dapper prism]

I did check islands and unlock stuff yesterday

[dry sluice]

500k should be the max

Like, 3 million would make sense for w7 or 8

[dapper prism]

Apparently kills get nerf'd when new worlds come out

[dry sluice]

Ig that makes sense

[dapper prism]

So, w5 kills wont be 10m but more like 1m or something, and w6 will be high kill stuff

[dry sluice]

But why artificially increase playtime

We have the abyss

[dapper prism]

abyss?

Rift?

[dry sluice]

Bro I'm already at 10m combined kills

[dapper prism]

Once u have the damage rift is done in minutes*

[dry sluice]

Yee that one

Well for some you need other stuff

Like a fuck ton of monster respawn

[twilit goblet]

yea its super dmg gated

[dapper meadow]

Isn’t that the point of a slow progressing “idle” game?

[twilit goblet]

i just unlocked vial mastery and the next stage with SB 75 flag, it takes me 2 minutes to kill the plunderous mob

i cant do that stage

no amount of time would help

[dry sluice]

No the one where you need like 120 on your orb

[dapper prism]

did you max your plunderous talent?!

[twilit goblet]

nah lvl 120 only

wait

i think i did indeed

shud i respec

and do the stage

[dapper prism]

Why would that need monster respawn? DK insta respawns map

[dry sluice]

BROS LVL 120 IN W5

[dry sluice]

I don't think so?

[dapper prism]

He is talking about talent lvl

[opaque sun]

plunder flag duration doesnt scale with talent level, so just 1 talent point in flag is enough

[twilit goblet]

🤣 okay i just realised leveling it up increases hp from 10x to 30x

[dapper prism]

High rift has huge HP, huge HP with talent level that makes plunderous have huger huge hp = very mega huge hp.

[opaque sun]

you can also cheese the coins by using valentine slimes. More mobs means more coin drops

[dapper prism]

Also, remove midas/jawbreaker

[twilit goblet]

yea no midas and jb

just measly 4.5b dmg i think

imma try and respec and do it again

[opaque sun]

Also manuallly collecting coins at the end will get it over the threshold

[twilit goblet]

actually maybe doable

with new DR 3 rift tears might be easier

mega monster might be a dmg gate though

[dry sluice]

They ain't insta respawning

[amber dagger]

How do you get multikill in world 5?

[dry sluice]

Lots of damage

[amber dagger]

Is that fr it?

[dry sluice]

100s of millions, regularly, for the lower ones

Billions for later

[dapper prism]

For starters, that ability bar is painful, using 2 talents alone that nobody uses plus you dont even have the insta rezz talent on there. Also it's for when you wipe the map.

[dry sluice]

And the accuracy

[amber dagger]

Dang

[dry sluice]

Fair enough, i just was showing it

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/1uAUnhT.png

[dry sluice]

Yeah ik

[dapper prism]

Your ability bar hurt my eyes.

[dry sluice]

Why the sword thing? It lasts minutes

[dapper prism]

Its a damn buff, more stats = more dmg

and it only uses it when it runs out

[dry sluice]

Yeah fair enough

[dapper prism]

Could move knight or orb forward but either way, you are using 2 abilities nobody uses

plus you didnt even have statue on the first page

[opaque sun]

Whats that move slow speed

[dapper prism]

Lol, thats the other thing, your move speed is really slow 👀

[dry sluice]

I probably should move those chips over

[opaque sun]

it feels really wrong when you moving that slow

[dapper prism]

Not chips, just toss on 1-2 speed potions, and rest from other sources