lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[vagrant mountain]

wtf

40 acc

i mean reward

i got 6 from mine

[signal osprey]

I think 40 is hard cap so getting more accuracy wont matter

[vagrant mountain]

[pulsar cliff]

booooo

[granite grove]

the cap needs a raise

[opaque sun]

good thing ive been working hourly bubbles on fmj and shaquaracy

[green eagle]

He has the efficiency for all of them

[vagrant mountain]

mine was total all stats, 18k stats got me 6 pts

[granite grove]

ah, well then still lot of exp there with 200m

[frozen prairie]

mine was number of digits of fishing efficiency lol

[wind umbra]

i think his weekly just go reset

so accuracy is gunna be the next trial

[vagrant mountain]

i think its random

[signal osprey]

Its not the same for everyone

[wind umbra]

i think everyone got all stats first no?

[opaque sun]

First one seems the same for all

[signal osprey]

Maybe they did but that doesnt mean subsequent resets are the same

[muted bramble]

what is best map for splicing in W3

[wind umbra]

maybe not

guess we will find out

[opaque sun]

Just the next one in line is probably rng

[signal osprey]

We already found out literally one message above the one you posted lol

[wind umbra]

i just thought it might work the same as trades

[signal osprey]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[wind umbra]

oh didnt see that lol

[dapper prism]

remember how many shimmers u got and amount of effy?

[opaque sun]

Since its not server weekly timer, can really sync past week 2

[vagrant mountain]

my favourite part of this update was the 1.2x DR pack

[frozen prairie]

my score was 8 and i think i got 11 shimmer

[dapper prism]

Damn you have 10m+ fish effy?

[ember kite]

mine is fishies 🦐

[signal osprey]

Having over 20x DR on DK with double crystal cards feels unethical

[opaque sun]

gem pack buff and nametag was solid

[ember kite]

you don't?

[frozen prairie]

apparently yeah

[opaque sun]

gave tag to my gmush specialist

[vocal ibex]

how ui get more dr?

[dapper prism]

sb or es at gmush?

[vagrant mountain]

im not there yet but bumped me up from 10x to 12x for no reason

[dapper prism]

Bundle is 1.20x dr

[frozen prairie]

i did it on my vman on accident lol

[signal osprey]

The gemshop bundle for the update gave an account wide 1.2x DR multi

[opaque sun]

Obviously sb for the smelt

[vocal ibex]

awesome

[signal osprey]

I went from 16.7x to 20.15x from that purchase

[vagrant mountain]

best bundle

[opaque sun]

Also for those none doots, ES should be printing than doing gmush with nobi

[dapper prism]

dooter here

[vocal ibex]

double dooter here im still noit know what i have to focus on xD

[vagrant mountain]

the result of 300 time candies on my SB

[dapper prism]

u gotta get ur achievement for forge cap

[gritty sierra]

200m XP per hour??

[vagrant mountain]

what

[dapper prism]

woulda gotten like 50% more bars

[vagrant mountain]

omg i didnt realize this was a thing

[signal osprey]

Yeah that might as well say 50% more bars smelted

[opaque sun]

also should consider smelting more void ores as nullo gonna eat them

[vagrant mountain]

eh my nullo refinery is rank 2

honestly i need to smelt more iron bars to get that 300% chop

[vocal ibex]

is trash collected daily? also what affects it

so i get more

yes it daily just read.

[livid raft]

Just got snail in gaming, I guess its only daily no affect to chemical plants and such?

[dapper prism]

correct, and it's the most busted upgrade in the game

[granite grove]

bit multi is 2^(snail level)

lv25 is basically 33.5m multi

[bold quiver]

seems like a lot

[signal osprey]

Yet its still not enough to reach the last super bit

[muted bramble]

anyone can help me make this work

[vagrant mountain]

borger forager miasma fleeter/flashy/converter on every row

[signal osprey]

Use a tsar pet to help with fight power

[dapper prism]

Is this still the meta on the right side?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1110746416537669653/1137939010669527050/image.png

Damn, i got the second last one, guess time to change a bunch

[opaque sun]

Kind of, but you can probably continue the alchemic team to like coarse mountains

[vagrant mountain]

second last is nice if you are bargain tagging your diamond chef but after a while it's hard to bargain tag

[signal osprey]

Yeah the exact cut off for alchemic depends on your pet power but the idea is correct

[opaque sun]

In theory, with enough pet powers, its alchemic all the way

[dapper prism]

enough being how much?

[vagrant mountain]

alchemic converter every row 👁️ 👄 👁️

[opaque sun]

But as of now with like say 100-150k pets, coarse mountain is like the cut off

[dapper prism]

Oh i dont even save for 100k pets atm o.o

[opaque sun]

For full alchemic need like dunno, 100m pets

Spices are now just for table upgrades, so not really needed to focus whales on a single lane

[dapper prism]

yeh

[opaque sun]

Unless, we get to harvest 1000m spices like every hour

[signal osprey]

Hourly dchef clicks

[muted bramble]

made it work

Peak performance achieved

[ember kite]

wouldn't it be more efficenent to buy the fractal >shimmer >seasalt>crystal>rando>trash because of cost scaling?

[dapper prism]

and wait 5 months to get trash?

[raw badger]

I think it would be better to start with trash because you get more bottles

[ember kite]

I mean like fractal, shimmer seasalt trash crystal rando would probbably be best order but

maybe trash fractal shimmer seasalt crystal rando

[muted bramble]

im bad at the game, and for some reason i know not to trust you

[dapper prism]

weird crop

here

https://i.imgur.com/wACmQ8e.jpg

[gentle furnace]

i just downloaded the image from someone who sent it lol

[ember kite]

it's litterally just cost, it has nothing to do with bonuses or how "Good" you are at the game

[muted bramble]

so cost wise maybe but efficiency not

[hollow ledge]

doesnt cost go up the more islands you buy?

[ember kite]

efficiency no

[muted bramble]

cause you would produce more and buy faster with other orders

[dapper prism]

not sure how linear the cost increase is

[ember kite]

if it was the same cost at the end of buying all islands then all islands would cost the same, if you buy fractal last you wait longer than someone who bought it in one of the first sets

theoretically ofc

[dapper prism]

nawh, lacking a lot

[hollow ledge]

so based on cost that backwards purchase method makes sense but thats without taking a single bonus you get from any island into account. putting off bonuses just because its "cheaper" feels like a very silly way to play and is actively hindering your account prog

[dapper prism]

since you want seasalt too for more quest progress for more bottles a day..

It doesnt fully make sense though

[ember kite]

I'm not saying it's the best path, it's just the cheepest based on what the prices are looking like

[hollow ledge]

but also if all prices are the same in the end, that not even true

[opaque sun]

The quick guide picture of trash > shimmer > seasalt, seems to be the reasonable order, but swapping shinmer and seasalt are viable

[ember kite]

that's what he said but again, if they were the same then wouldn't they be "the same"

[dapper prism]

• / 27 / 30 / 65 / 40 / 85
• / 57 / 60 / 95 / - / 115

[opaque sun]

Like if you already had lv90 fishing via kraken, seasalt priority slightly lowers

[dapper prism]

COST per island

[hollow ledge]

the cost is diff but if they scale to be the total amount in the end, it doesnt matter

[dapper prism]

its literally a static +30 increase

[vagrant mountain]

shimmer seems to be better the further you are into the game

might not be worth getting shimmer early game

[dapper prism]

Later on might be like +50 or whatever for more islands

But either way, order wouldnt affect it in some % way

So you'd want anything that helps you get more bottles like salt earlier*

[opaque sun]

endgamer who already got lv90 fishing benefits lot on shimmer, while mid gamers who are like lv50 fishing would love seasalt

[vagrant mountain]

as someone with lvl 70 fishing, i wish i got seasalt 😆

[kind geyser]

Damn

[vagrant mountain]

takes me like 15+ hrs for a level

[opaque sun]

Also i guess how near your weekly reset also determines the order of getting shimmer

[kind geyser]

I went for trash and shimmer

Not sure why

Fishing lvl 50 here

[dapper prism]

As someone with 90 fishing, me too.

[opaque sun]

Like if your weekly reset just happened, then you got like a week leeway time to unlocking shimmer before you waste an effective weekly reset

[dapper prism]

I did trash > shimmer but regret not doing salt as second

[kind geyser]

Has the wiki been updated already ?

[opaque sun]

partially

[kind geyser]

I'm dying to see everything

[runic token]

I can't remember, which class is the best to get lava skull on in rift?

[dapper prism]

ES mainly, else i think SB, bubo is risky same as dk

[opaque sun]

DK is the only worst class to do lava skulls

All others are fine as their respawn doesnt rely on clearing the entire map

[vagrant mountain]

i do bubo with no canisters seems to work pretty well

[runic token]

sweet thanks

literally started on my dk

[vagrant mountain]

lowkey rift is best map for cranium

[runic token]

finally tackling rift 41-46 after months of ignoring it, should clear it easy now

[vagrant mountain]

gl

[twilit goblet]

realistically if i have no MK on citringe, will bubo be faster than ES for farming the mob drop?

or is ES still king

[vagrant mountain]

bubo faster because you probably dont have dmg to get high portal

id go DK tho

[dapper prism]

although bubo is also 2 in 1 for cc gains

[zealous niche]

Any way to get candies for omar without buying them with gems?

My giants are pretty low chance for the week already

[vagrant mountain]

true you get lots of alch if you go bubo

[dapper prism]

colo

[potent lily]

23.6 first nugget is good?

[vagrant mountain]

its a start

[dapper prism]

Colosseum Purpose:

• Colo 1 = Gems per ticket (But not much more than colo 2, at the loss of candy)
• Colo 2 = Candy, Golden Kebab (+% Total dmg)
• Colo 3 = Slush Obols+Skulls, Golden Bread (+% Coin drop)
• Colo 4 = Eggs, Laddles
• Colo 5 = To be released

Note:

• Gold bread seems to only give ~1% of the displayed value, not really worth it - TheContract

[vagrant mountain]

[zealous niche]

Does it matter which?

oh wait, so colo 2

[dapper prism]

Never tested/done it but that's the info i've gathered in the past for my notes

also be sure to use dk as usual for colo

[zealous niche]

I don't know the good strategy for that one, you run it with DK, do you try and get the resource nodes too? or not worth it

[dapper prism]

No clue, just be sure if u do colo with resource, dont have prayer on that gives +hp like midas, as it affects the resource node afaik

[twilit goblet]

yea it slows your run down significantly

[zealous niche]

hm, alright

[twilit goblet]

any perks of DK on citringe? bubo is 2in1 indeed with more CC

nothing too significant in the bags

[vagrant mountain]

1 hr of beans

thx

im enjoying the new gem pack

[twilit goblet]

what DR?

[gentle furnace]

How to get 1k shellfish?

[vagrant mountain]

seasalt island

[twilit goblet]

dayum nice DR

[vagrant mountain]

thx i got 2x DR from the bundle

getting 1.38x on my base DR with SB

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/arxEczA.png

[vagrant mountain]

illegal

someone arrest this man

bless your soul

[raven fog]

The pack is good will it stay for today

[signal osprey]

That reminds me that I need to do a new 1 hr bean test

[jaunty thistle]

Is the amount of garbage spawned on trash island random? I got like 30-50 some on release and now it was only 10

[dapper prism]

yeh

[jaunty thistle]

Ic thx

[strong nova]

first day seem get more

[dapper prism]

It's got a random range, plus affected by the upgrade

[strong nova]

like how bottle do

[dapper prism]

nawh i got like 15ish or so xD

[jaunty thistle]

Ic

[zealous niche]

I got 10 for my first lot

Don't know why it @ you sorry

[cedar sun]

This may be a dumb question but does stacking multiple of the same shiny in fence yard level them up faster? Never occurred to me until just now

[zealous niche]

it does

[twilit goblet]

no problem haha

[tight ridge]

i believe so

guys what the max pet arena

[strong nova]

unlimited

but bonus cap at 200

[tight ridge]

i got my 6th slot and have exodia team running im at 148 now

is it gonna take a long time to get to 200?

[strong nova]

well, i see lot ppl 200 now with 5slot

it start scale hard on 190+

mostly they finish at 3-5hour with 5 slot

[tight ridge]

im looking at my screen and it looks like i cant lose

3-5 hours????

[dapper prism]

Yup

[tight ridge]

guess im going to sleep then let it go overnight

i thought i could get it done while i brush my teeth

[versed cypress]

depends a lot on your pet power for your rattler some ppl take 30 mins some tke 5 hours

[tight ridge]

is there a point to going above 200

[versed cypress]

bragging rights

[zealous niche]

love your ambition

[strong nova]

just make you closer with solarfrost

[tight ridge]

they going hard

ill update tomorrow what i end up with

[strong nova]

the only thing can fail you just coffee dead and the buff runout, but rarely happen

coffee dead usually looter alchemic proc

[tight ridge]

i dont have alchemic unlocked yet

[zealous niche]

Then you're good

alchemic can ruin arena runs

[tight ridge]

idek where alchemic is

[zealous niche]

As it turns all your shields into purple skulls, meaning that your mobs are no longer shielded

ice-cream looking thing

[tight ridge]

w3?

[zealous niche]

yeah

[tight ridge]

ah

my w3 at staches only

[vagrant mountain]

jsut realized new fish = rip my 3 star card set

[true obsidian]

1 Acient and 1 just normal...F

[zealous niche]

perfect time to go for arena 200 then

[signal osprey]

Well 20 minutes into my 1 hr bean test and I thought my gains seemed a little low

Turns out I didnt have card doublers

[zealous niche]

You didn't have 4 star before, what you complaining about
Reading is hard

[signal osprey]

[vagrant mountain]

meant 3 star :preg

[true obsidian]

can i replace any captain with this?

[zealous niche]

not a good idea since it doesn't have any speed trait

[opaque sun]

Anyone with lower than 47% loot combined is replaceable

[twilit goblet]

oof

[opaque sun]

speed is nice, but you dont need it on everyone. as later on, it will cap out even without speed captain

[dapper prism]

I had the left on eldritch while the right was still normal 😄

[true obsidian]

i guess i'll with captain G

[tawny jacinth]

Hmm... I can't seem to equip snek, does it require lvl 2 or something?

[granite grove]

theres no requirement to equip god, other than to maybe unlock the god

though if for doot pet to activate, yes, it needs lv2 divinity

[coral goblet]

how much dmg for vman to kill nightmare kruk?

[tawny jacinth]

Anything special to equip them then? Clicking doesnt do anything for me 🤷

[vagrant mountain]

20b for 40 min fight

[granite grove]

send screenie

[opaque sun]

500m is like a week long fight

[tawny jacinth]

Restarting client and relogging sec

Oh you have to be on the alter then click them

Yea that isnt clear at all

[granite grove]

note that 1Q is basically 1,000,000B, so it will take too much time with that dmg

[granite grove]

oh you meant to ask that, yeah it wasnt clear initially unless if there are ingame hints for it

[signal osprey]

Based on my kill time at 100b damage I would give it a rough estimate of 17 hours give or take an hour or two

Go get em champ 🫡

[jaunty thistle]

Can someone explain how the God rank works? Do u just get 1 God rank per successful attempt?

[dreamy igloo]

can we use candies in world 5 yet, this hampter grind killing me😩

[potent lily]

How bad is it to have cocking lvl 1 on all carecters?

[dreamy igloo]

lolol

[gentle furnace]

get high dr and dmg on es and you can get around 500 hampters daily

[vagrant mountain]

just throw 10 characters at stilts ez

[dreamy igloo]

500!!

[signal osprey]

God ranks start after you unlock all the gods and they work the same way as unlocking gods. You earn div points and roll them for god ranks

[dreamy igloo]

in this economy

[jaunty thistle]

And I'm assuming u only get 1 God rank after a successful attempt?

So basically it's not worth the time

Unless ur end end game

Thanks appreciate it

[granite grove]

better do nothing afk than god ranks imo

[jaunty thistle]

Ye sounds like it

[tawny jacinth]

Wild that youre actually able to say that now lol

[granite grove]

valid after the update

if lava nerf god rank point requirement scaling, then maybe could consider it

[storm kelp]

how do I get all my void points for 2nd build of vman?

[granite grove]

but the exponential scaling is just brutal

[dreamy igloo]

one point into the 3rd skill tree

[storm kelp]

I don't get it sorry

I have done some runs and want those hundreds of points for my skilling build

[granite grove]

put 1 point into vman tab 1st talent (top left)

[dreamy igloo]

one point into one step ahead but honestly you should put as many points as you can into it

[sick sage]

this one

[storm kelp]

I put 180 there so I have 181 points but what about my run points? that's so much more

[granite grove]

did you put at least 1 point to the speedrun talent yet?

[storm kelp]

ahh, so top left of the 4th tab, thanks

thought that was just for doing runs

[muted bramble]

anyone got 10min to give me ? help me set up my vman to maximise fishing exp ?

[dreamy igloo]

Its Mole season apparently

[valid plume]

finally we are getting some fishing exp gains!

[vagrant mountain]

[muted bramble]

[vagrant mountain]

wtb seasalt

[muted bramble]

I am in need of assistance

[valid plume]

nice buddy!

[muted bramble]

i need to reach lvl 70 so i can get seasalt in 2 days

if not its gonna be in 3 days

[storm kelp]

enhancement eclipse good for vman?

[muted bramble]

im debating spending 50 2h candy on this

[dreamy igloo]

so far I spent candies to lvl 90 i dunno 😦

[vagrant mountain]

id say depends on when your weekly reset is

actually doesnt even matter

[muted bramble]

151h for weeking

[vagrant mountain]

just wait for seasalt because you will get 100x exp

then you can use those candies to push to 90

[muted bramble]

alright

ill wait 3 days instead of 2

[valid plume]

that would be my advice as well

[pearl cedar]

Anyone know what the new card bonuses are?

[vagrant mountain]

fishing exp, efficiency, speed and afk gains

[pearl cedar]

Oh meh

[vagrant mountain]

they are also the highest tier of each bonus

so pretty

[signal osprey]

Pretty solid numbers on them. It'll be a big increase to fishing prints

Only problem is who cares about fishing prints

[vagrant mountain]

atoms are atoms

[pearl cedar]

Yeah I'm not super worried about seasalt island, my fishing levels already decent

[signal osprey]

Why would you get atoms from fish

[pearl cedar]

But you just print copper

[signal osprey]

Barbs are warriors

[vagrant mountain]

thats true

[signal osprey]

Make copper

[pearl cedar]

Or you print fish and hourly click

[vagrant mountain]

what can you even hourly click with fish

that is linear

[pearl cedar]

DR good bubble

[vagrant mountain]

caps 40% no?

[pearl cedar]

Yeah probably

[vagrant mountain]

[pearl cedar]

But if you want to be the best

[signal osprey]

Most bubbles have a cap

[vagrant mountain]

just break the cap ez

[signal osprey]

Thats not a reason to not click away

Never stop clicking

[pearl cedar]

Buy tbf DR is pretty meh now

[vagrant mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-keyboard-fast-gif-22223727

[pearl cedar]

I liked it better when it was hard to push 11

[signal osprey]

All this new DR got these beans going wild right now

[pearl cedar]

21x didnt drop 4 hr candy for me on miniboss

[edgy pine]

Sooooo iOS not out yet…?

[bitter finch]

So what island is recommended to unlock first? Seasalt island?

[opaque sun]

kind of need to filter out bean slices to idle for few hours

[pearl cedar]

Trash

[signal osprey]

Doing 1 hr to get an idea of what to expect and I'm at 15k chopping/mining statues with another 20 minutes to go

[bitter finch]

Other than finishing omar's quests, any other ways to increase bottle gain?

[pearl cedar]

Other than fishing exp seasalt is not necessary atm

[vagrant mountain]

statues green stack wen?

[opaque sun]

trash first, then shimmer if you already have fish lv90, else seasalt as 2nd island

[signal osprey]

Statue green stacks have been doable for awhile

I cba though because I value the statues bonus more than the extra green stack

[bitter finch]

@opaque sun thanks bb

[pearl cedar]

Since DK came out lol

[opaque sun]

I want the qol to deposit all, so i ignore greens stack statues

[zealous niche]

As soon as there was a deposit all, statues are no longer on my greenstack list

[vagrant mountain]

forgot about deposit all... imagine someone with green stack statues accidentally pressing it 😆

[zealous niche]

I did, which is why I decided I'm not going to..

[pearl cedar]

But you lose out on a good amount of exp with deposit all

[zealous niche]

only if you don't press it frequently

[opaque sun]

I still value qol

[vocal ibex]

wait deposite all is bad??

[signal osprey]

Once you get decent statue levels you dont lose much unless you deposit days worth of statues at a time

[opaque sun]

And i deposit like after each farming session

[pearl cedar]

If you have a lot of statues

[vocal ibex]

why is that?

do i loose xp?

[signal osprey]

If you have 200+ on your statues and deposit once a day the loss is negligible

[pearl cedar]

You don't get the +20% exp if you level up multiple times

[opaque sun]

when you raise multiple level at once, game does not retroactively give bonues per level

[signal osprey]

It does give you the bonus its just that the bonus is snap shot based on the first level

[opaque sun]

but if each deposit is like one level at a time, doesn’t matter

[zealous niche]

You do, it's just 20% of the first level you get, rather than 20% of each level

since the cost goes up, it's 20%, then less, then less again for each level

[vocal ibex]

ahh well good to know this late into game

ty

[zealous niche]

If you however use deposit all, and only get a single level in any statue, no losses

[signal osprey]

So if 20% of a level is 100 statues you get a 100 statue discount on each level up rather than 20% of the new value which would be more than 100 statues so its a small loss per level really

[opaque sun]

And my theory is if you getting like 10 levels at once, that statue level is low enough (exp req. is low) that you cant be bothered to min max the 20% starting exp

[vagrant mountain]

tldr press deposit all

[signal osprey]

It really only matters if you've never bean farmed and then do a lot of bean farming and deposit it all at once pretty much because that owuld be a big jump in levels

[opaque sun]

Just deposit in segments if you are like a hoarder and somehow wait around 100 days to make any deposit

[signal osprey]

If youre at a point where levels take hundreds of thousands of statues and deposit them somewhat regularly you will never do more than a couple levels at a time so it doesnt matter much

[vocal ibex]

guess it doesnt matter idk what bean farming is

[zealous niche]

Killing world 1 beans

[signal osprey]

Beans is the go to map for W1 statue farming and I used it as an example because you get a lot of statues doing it

The principle applies to statues in general though

[opaque sun]

the most value you can get from statues is w1 due to how most of the statues are directly impacting the important things

[signal osprey]

Plus you also get other good drops from W1 crystals in addition to the statues

[opaque sun]

To be specific, we arent farming off bean, but farming the crystals that comes out of beans

[signal osprey]

Its arguably the most well rounded farm you can have your DK do for just general account progress

[vocal ibex]

ahhh good to know i was going to world 5

i shall now bean farm

like the rest of ya

bean farmers

[opaque sun]

bean just happens to be a good map layout for DK

[vocal ibex]

ahh man i been farming cyrstals with vman

[signal osprey]

Dk is the king of crystals

[zealous niche]

vman crystal farming is for skill exp for vmans

[unreal fox]

what improvements do I need to complete this rift?

[zealous niche]

DK farming is for crystal drops

[opaque sun]

Wood mushroom, walking stick is a competitor if you want the potions

[muted bramble]

skill exp ?

[signal osprey]

Yeah vman has his place if you want to do crystal countdown but if your goal is crystal drops you'll always want to use DK

[signal osprey]

Movespeed pots

[vocal ibex]

mmmm okay ill do DK on world 1 for the extra statues for mining and woodcutting

[opaque sun]

Also if you still have valentine slime envelope, they count as orb kills in the rift

[unreal fox]

how to increase it? my stats is 160%

[granite grove]

movespeed pots

use it

[signal osprey]

Speed potions from the shops

[opaque sun]

Also max book the orb to make it have a longer duration which helps alot

[unreal fox]

ah ty guys

[opaque sun]

Also raise the shockwave slash talent in tab 3 to raise the max number of mobs it penetrates

[unreal fox]

@@! how?

[twilit goblet]

does anyone know what's the level where statues starts giving diminishing returns

[muted bramble]

its 295 i cant crop for shit

[unreal fox]

potion can stack?

[muted bramble]

yes

[opaque sun]

And 290% isnt that high considering its not effective speed cap

[zealous niche]

different kinds do

[muted bramble]

wasnt saying mine is high

just its doable with pots

[unreal fox]

ah ty guy

[opaque sun]

Also work on statues and vman statue effect

[unreal fox]

i completed it tks guys

[vocal ibex]

grats

im still on rift 20 something

[signal osprey]

Yeah this new DR buff in the bundle is pretty cool I guess. New one hour test on beans

[vocal ibex]

thats dope man i need to do that also cran cooking im lacking all over compared to u guys

[signal osprey]

Just gotta set goals and take it one step at a time. We all start somewhere

[covert sphinx]

what is the pay2win rating of this patch?

[vocal ibex]

thing is i learned some things take priority nobody tells you its like life u gotta figure it out ask around

[next locust]

11/10 gem pack

[signal osprey]

All the content can be done for free so thats cool but the new bundle is kind of nuts so I guess its a 20$ patch

[bitter finch]

So are the two new fishing rings qorth using ever? Its such a considerable efficiency drop but idk if the yellow/red depth is worth it.

[zealous niche]

If you're targetting a specific fish it helps

So, if you want better goldfish or skeletal fish, you wear the yellow ring

Boosts your sample for those fish, lowers others, but then you can just sample again with a different ring

[orchid rapids]

so going to deepwater docks and then leaving it will despawn the bottle you can click
thought i was safe as long as i didnt click on it
oops!

[zealous niche]

keeps the bonus for all types of fish

[opaque sun]

fish relies less on efficiency than say mining/chopping

[zealous niche]

It's meant to be

[opaque sun]

So depth is quite more important

The missable bottles is a bad design as a game, but i do understand lava wanted to do as aesthetic of bottles washing up on its own

[green eagle]

Yes I’ll try to remember to screen shot on my bb tomorrow. Someone else had 600m/hr earlier somewhere, I think #achievement-pics

[hardy bloom]

woah thank you for this

[modern plaza]

if you dont click the bottles they will disappear...

[vocal ibex]

how many am i suppose to be getting a day? bottles

[zealous niche]

I have all but last omar quest done and are meant to get 7 per day

[modern plaza]

~5/day, will make it take (lets say islands are 30 bottles on average, prices increase by 15 when you buy... ~400 total) => 80days

[zealous niche]

no trash bonuses yet

[modern plaza]

not too bad tbh

[vocal ibex]

how much trash do u get a day? also how to increase it

thanks i get 7 botles also. want to verify i didnt mess up

[zealous niche]

I might have messed up too

content is new

[vocal ibex]

dont tell me that lmao

i need re-assurance.

[zealous niche]

Bandwagon falacy! Let's goooo 🛺

[modern plaza]

so doing omars quests will help give more/day?

[zealous niche]

Yeah, it says so in the dialogue

[modern plaza]

and on multiple characters helps more or?

[zealous niche]

Didn't realise you could do them on multiple chars, lemme see

[modern plaza]

thats what i thought, but i didnt see it in the quest rewards lol

[fast grail]

Its an account-wide quest chain

[zealous niche]

Nah, account wide

[modern plaza]

ok so those rings are super rare

and dont just use any armor enchant on them

[zealous niche]

Can't reclaim either

[viral snow]

Its 1100 total according to the guide floating around

[modern plaza]

ight so this content should be nice for half a year 😄

[kind lance]

How to get the shimmer island talent book?

[strong nova]

click on the shop

1% tho

[copper gorge]

How often do crystal mobs respawn on Island? Daily? Weekly?

[strong nova]

daily

the description say it

[copper gorge]

I'm blind. My bad. Xp from crystal mob Island is nice

[silver comet]

Go to the tips n tricks chain to see the island unlock order, crystal was a mistake first but you should be fine

Just wanna help for the future

[modern plaza]

oh its like rng roll shop?

[versed cypress]

ehhh not really a mistake just a different path to take on unlocking

[copper gorge]

Nah, no rush for the other stuff, got 6 class levels in 5 mins there on vman.

[strong nova]

not rng 'roll', more like opening chest on sailing and randomly get artifact

about that much

[silver comet]

You can do that elsewhere later, but you do you,

Just check out the pic for islands first to see the bonuses you get from each island

It'll help with future picks

[woeful vale]

is there a way to leave an island without having to teleport?

[viral snow]

Not yet afaik

[next locust]

Character selection screen

[deft grail]

I seem to have no available bottles

smoge

[vagrant mountain]

lava trying to fend us off until w6

[twilit goblet]

hope w6 come soon so i have more multiplier

[zealous niche]

I’m not done w5 yet

yells

[opaque sun]

In the world where printer is the slowest to 1000m materials while smith, salt, spice, smelt produces 1b less than an hour

[vagrant mountain]

dw you will have 6 months (at least)

[twilit goblet]

ill be one of the hourly clicks chad in 6 months..

[vagrant mountain]

same

or ill have stopped playing

[zealous niche]

I'm only 'halfway' to w5 gloves :C

[opaque sun]

smith item bubble every second

[vagrant mountain]

one day

[twilit goblet]

253 hammer

i like how for atoms diff ppl atom diff things. Saw a guy with some funny numbers for fmj

[vagrant mountain]

waiting for topbird's ss to decimate my pride

[zinc torrent]

Are garbage and bottles on daily reset or a continuous timer?

[vagrant mountain]

i think its on the daily reset, not sure but i know shimmer is on your weekly reset timer

[zealous niche]

my daily reset is an hour away, but I claimed my bottles and garbage only a few hours ago

[obsidian nacelle]

Mines in a 2 min, I’ll let y’all know

[ancient quail]

do you need to check it every day or can you just accumulate it for a week?

[zinc torrent]

Aight.
Also what do the later stamps do? Nobody knows yet?

[zealous niche]

Patch notes say accumulation for a week shouldn't matter

[wind umbra]

bottles accumulate.. no idea about trash

[zealous niche]

fishing eff, sample size, drop rate, and something with stats? can't remember last one properly

[opaque sun]

i dont post ss as discord is on my phone, but idleon on pc

[zinc torrent]

Ok.

Can I just mention that the new bundle is bullshit? Now it even has permanent stats baked in

[primal bison]

NAhhhh Iits fire af

[opaque sun]

bullshit as in being too good, yeah

[primal bison]

I’d buy the 100% pack why not

[zinc torrent]

As in being p2w

[vagrant mountain]

basically free 1m kill plunder buff

[primal bison]

P2w all day baby I’m on top

[zinc torrent]

"Free"

[primal bison]

lil BuhPuh #1 p2w player yall just below me fr

💯

[obsidian nacelle]

Yeah, bottles on your daily timer

[zealous niche]

@zinc torrent
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[magic oyster]

What obols do you use for vman speedruns ? multikill seems logical right ?

[zealous niche]

multikill per tier sure

just straight multikill though is useless

[granite grove]

base Mk doesnt do much here, considering vman void radius works on like 1k Mk per tier

even then, it doesnt do much with regular Mk obols, only hyper MK obols are good

[zealous niche]

If you have a lot of gem mk/tier obols definitely have them going

[magic oyster]

What would you use instead for regular ones ? Luck ? Damage ?

[zealous niche]

If you want to optimise luck/damage, I personally just have DR obols

Probably luck would have more effect than the damage ones

Just doing envelope maths in my head to come to that conclusion though

[zealous niche]

Did you find out whether it's daily refresh or 24 hours from last claim for new content?

[sonic monolith]

So, me and my friends wanna dungeon together, but we can't see each other on the same server.

[obsidian nacelle]

@zealous niche

[modern plaza]

whats the highest speedrun so far?

[sonic monolith]

2 of us can see the same guy in our party, but we can't see each other and he can't see us...

Any way to fix this?

[zealous niche]

Possibly don't use iOS?

There was a party bug with iOS previously

[sonic monolith]

I'm using steam

[zealous niche]

are any of you using iOS?

I'd be thinking the one who is blind sounds like iOS

[sonic monolith]

None of us are on phone

All steam

User 1, user 2 and user 3 want to party. Users 1 and 2 can see user 3, but can't see each other, while user 3 can't see either. Users 1 and 2 are both w5 capable, while user 3 is new. This give a clearer picture?

[zealous niche]

Oh, the newness could factor, also remember something about newbies don't get to see vets for a little bit.

Don't know why User 1 & 2 can't see each other though

That makes no sense to me

[modern plaza]

just to confirm, but are you sure it’s not just doot instead of another player?

[runic token]

how often are we supposed to check on islands? once a day?

[tight merlin]

Once a week enough

[zealous niche]

Daily reset is the fastest things will update

[sonic monolith]

I don't understand what you mean.

[zealous niche]

I don't either

[runic girder]

I just realised, would a w5 mini boss/colo drop gaming fertilizer and bottled wind like w4 mini boss drops ladles and eggs?

[sharp wind]

How many garbage we got each day without upgrade?

[vagrant mountain]

probably if it ever gets added

[zealous niche]

so far has varied quite a bit, anywhere from 7-30 I've seen so far today

[runic girder]

Next update is w4/5 finish so..

[sharp wind]

Was it random?

[crisp silo]

I think its mostly random

[vagrant mountain]

idk what that even means, i thought w4 was already finished

[sharp wind]

I got around ten with 1 upgrade

[crisp silo]

But you can increase the amount

[runic girder]

Mostly quests i think

[crisp silo]

Trophies

[runic girder]

Aso like the completion trophies

[vagrant mountain]

[tacit tulip]

w4 is also missing a spice, 3 meals, and some lab nodes

[sharp wind]

Whats the best strategy? Upgrading them till 100%

[zealous niche]

summer event first, then w4/5 polishing isn't it?

[runic girder]

Lab nodes??

[zealous niche]

The tasks require more lab nodes and gems than are possible to obtain

[crisp silo]

Buy them when they are the lowest cost item, when others are cheaper buy the others

[runic girder]

That might just be new world stuff

The meals, not lab nodes

[crisp silo]

Most likely

[covert sphinx]

how much more exp phr do u get from new fishing spot?

[zealous niche]

people have been showing 10-30x

[covert sphinx]

dam should have gotten that training dummy suks

[crisp silo]

Do new fish need alot of eff?

[steady token]

from 80k to 122k

[prisma gate]

what is the new bundle? on ios so cant see the update yet

[crisp silo]

Perm dr boost, perm bottle boost, 1k green gems, nametag

[zealous niche]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[prisma gate]

oh wow wtf perm account boosts? thats a first

[zealous niche]

coughs
pets
coughs
chokes on doot drama

[crisp silo]

cough
dies

[zealous niche]

It's a second, toned down from pet account bonuses, but still making a worrying trend

Granted, it's two datapoints, but you can still make a line with two dots

[crisp silo]

Is the 1.2x multiplicative

[zealous niche]

Yeah

[crisp silo]

Like if u have 10x dr

It adds 1.2x

[zealous niche]

and you end with 12

yes

[sweet mirage]

Is there any place where I could see all account bonuses?

Like this one

[crisp silo]

Or u got20, it adds 2.4

[zealous niche]

Mhm

[vagrant mountain]

it actually adds 2.0x if you have 10x

[crisp silo]

Depends on which bonus

[zealous niche]

the 1.2x is applied after all other dr, and it multiplies that

[crisp silo]

What aminute

Im dumb

[zealous niche]

If you have 20, you'd end up with 24 after the bonus

[crisp silo]

First multi bonus

Huh

[deft grail]

is it another multiplier after the SB bonus?

[zealous niche]

Yes

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[crisp silo]

Bruh

[deft grail]

[vagrant mountain]

with 15% DR from sb bonus, base DR is multiplied by 1.38x

[zealous niche]

@deft grail

[deft grail]

also the fomo bonus of 1k green gems

[vagrant mountain]

so if your cards show 100%, youre actually getting 138%

[crisp silo]

This is truly a lava needs more alcohol moment hence op pack

[deft grail]

welp i mean i swore to not spend any dollars on the game upon the companions update so whatevs

[crisp silo]

Welp

[vagrant mountain]

intrusive thoughts intensify

[crisp silo]

What to do

$cha ching$

[deft grail]

enjoy the ride and push ur account f2p from now on

[crisp silo]

Become one with the darkside

Anyone have a list of all the stamps that this update has given us?

[vagrant mountain]

wiki is updated

[crisp silo]

Sickkkk

[storm kelp]

Does frost relic apply to all skills unlocked in worlds 1-3 or just skilling within those worlds?

[crisp silo]

W1-3 skills like catching trappin

Mining

[storm kelp]

Ok even if it is done in worlds 4-5, nice

[crisp silo]

Yes

[storm kelp]

Just got it, time for new samples

[granite grove]

effiency bonus for w1-3 skills, not efficiency bonus in w1-3 worlds

[ancient quail]

What bonuses did the new pack have?

I bought it but can't remember the permanent bonuses lol

[tacit tulip]

30% bottles and 1.2x dr

[ancient quail]

thanks

[granite grove]

permanent 30% extra daily bottles and 1.2 DR multi, applied after summing up all DR

[ancient quail]

but the DR doesn't show on your stats screen right?

[granite grove]

also applies after the 0.6DR 5DR-capped chip too

[tacit tulip]

It does

[ancient quail]

then my DR just sucks

lol

Did it also give bottles and how many?

cause I only got 9 atm and it looks like I didn't get any

[tacit tulip]

Just an increase to your daily supply

[ancient quail]

Oh okay

I should read the description before buying lol

[granite grove]

pack gives 0 bottle, only perma +30% bottle multi

always check before purchase or you might buy defective products in the future

idleon packs too but at least this one is good permanent perk

[ancient quail]

Yeah, I just buy one pack a month and this was the new one so just bought it

no doot or rift slug though

lol

[ember kite]

Friend me and once trading gets added I'll give you a free rift slug

[ancient quail]

Sweet thanks

[magic oyster]

Is it possible to get enhancement eclipse to 250 currently ?

[zealous niche]

245 max

[magic oyster]

Sad times

[alpine kiln]

dang can't post pictures yet but got 6969 nugget

[worthy shoal]

Does Defecaus poop count ?

[zinc torrent]

Damn final artifact wont drop for me. Its good damage man

[storm kelp]

doubled due to sailing artifact and cooking I did today

[zealous niche]

I have no idea how that relates

[worthy shoal]

For zow, chow and super chow, defecaus poop and root lone accorn count (and are afkable). So I was wondering if they could be eclipse too.

And if this eclipse would count

[granite grove]

zow chow counts by unique map, but the question is about vman enhancement max level iirc

[worthy shoal]

Oh, I read eclipse and thought about eclipse DN. Didn't even remember there was a skill called eclipse.

[granite grove]

fair

[worthy shoal]

So does the unique map feature works too for the eclipse DN count ?

[granite grove]

not sure if it applies to DN though, need to ask someone else

[zealous niche]

There isn’t, it’s why we’re talking about enhancements

[worthy shoal]

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[bright current]

alright fellas. 2 cards, 2 stamps, 2 talents, PO box. any other ways to jack up my max mana besides just more wis?

[worthy shoal]

Idleon insight

[bright current]

already looked, was hoping ide missed something with weird wording

[worthy shoal]

Anything that gives WIS

or %stats

[bright current]

aight, so "just more wis" lmao

[acoustic zenith]

Dude i just bought the new pack and the best i got is sheepie wtf is this

[last citrus]

Whats the requirements for the lvl 70 fishing island quest? I have the quest but its not showing up in my quest log so i have no idea what i need to bring

[worthy shoal]

Sheepie is great

[crisp silo]

sheepie is god

[acoustic zenith]

For 1k gem tho?

[crisp silo]

yes

[grim torrent]

Sheepie is OP, it's just overlooked because Doot is even more OP

[worthy shoal]

I think it is this one

[grim torrent]

ALL bug bubbles. Just think about that for a second

[acoustic zenith]

Also im an early w5 so it doesnt effect that much

My alchemy is bad anyways

[crisp silo]

uhh 3 sheepies in a row

how nice

[acoustic zenith]

Allso anyone got tips for rifts im stuck at rift 2 for months now

[worn sonnet]

The best part about sheep is getting the tiny bonuses from those bubbles you'd never actually equip

[worthy shoal]

Do Sheepie works as doot or do you at least need to unlock the big bubble to gain its effects ?

[worn sonnet]

Like giant/birthday

[near goblet]

damage

[worn sonnet]

Need to unlock

[crisp silo]

think u gotta unlock em cheif

4 sheepies in a row

what luck

i had 2 sheepies alr

[acoustic zenith]

Getting rift trars is hard tho

[near goblet]

Just ES

go there click auto and have lunch

[acoustic zenith]

Dude my es is same as others wym

My es drop rarity is like 1

[near goblet]

I would like to introduce ES Portal to you

[crisp silo]

4 sheeps and 2 beans

yippe

[near goblet]

ES Wormhole, this is Mr. Newbie. Mr. Newbie, this is ES wormhole

[acoustic zenith]

Thats for damagw?

[near goblet]

What???????

Have you ever read your talents

[acoustic zenith]

Yea multiplicative damage

[near goblet]

wtf man

go read your talents

[acoustic zenith]

Ok

Oh yea drop

Btw is lvl 10 of wormhole enough?

[near goblet]

Perhaps

try

[acoustic zenith]

Ok

[last citrus]

Does anyone know the threshholds for this week's shimmer trial?

[opaque sun]

Its kind of weird, like 1.1x is at 60500 stats

[crude zephyr]

another doot

[ripe zinc]

If anyone wanna trade me a Doot when tradings Out, got every pet at least Double but No Doot

[crude zephyr]

im at 3x doot

[ripe zinc]

Save one for me to trade please

[viral snow]

Pulled 3 beans today

[acoustic zenith]

Guys is 1k/h alchemy good?

[crude zephyr]

you can get a bit higher than 1k

[acoustic zenith]

How

How tho?

[royal zinc]

Alchemy

[viral snow]

With alchemy

[crude zephyr]

a big part is probably just getting a higher overall alchemy level...

[acoustic zenith]

Im 50

[viral snow]

Easiest buff is probably just lvling the cauldrons in the beginning

[violet star]

How do u people like the new update? Looks neat

[twilit goblet]

the 1.2x Dr is very strong

[viral snow]

Vials also contribute to speed
Bubos talent aswell

[twilit goblet]

and islands being pretty offhand is nice as well

[molten scarab]

What islands first opinion..? I have 31 bottles 88 fishin

[crude zephyr]

fishing island is nice if you just want to power your vman's fishing level to the moon

[teal lynx]

People tend to go for Trash > Shimmer > Whatever the Fishing Island was afaik

[violet star]

Do purchases on steam work again or do I just buy on mobile? :P

[twilit goblet]

whats the optimal level for remembrance orb?

DK orb level

[crisp silo]

till u can get 100% uptime ig

[opaque sun]

Trash Island is definitely first

But the choice of 2nd island depends on if you are at lv90 fishing (or plan to lv90 using kraken), go shimmer to start early on your weekly upgrades

[proud olive]

is it ok to get the shellfish map to finish omars final quest?

[opaque sun]

Else do seasalt as 2nd to help you get fishing to lv90 easily

[proud olive]

or go shimmer first?

[opaque sun]

Shell fish to get some bottle speed is an okay decision

[proud olive]

shellfish map is?

[crude zephyr]

as long as you don't start crystal/rando/fractal- you are fine.

[proud olive]

seasalt right?

[opaque sun]

Shimmer 2nd or seasalt 2nd doesnt matter too much as long you plan to get the one you didnt take as the 3rd

if you wasted getting crystal, rando, you kind of fucked up

[wind umbra]

got 4 trash day 2 lmao

[proud olive]

so why trash first island just curious?

[opaque sun]

fractal isnt half bad for an endgamer with lots of candies, but lower priority than seasalt and/or shimmer

[proud olive]

still didnt buy any islands

[vagrant mountain]

you collect trash every day

its a daily

[opaque sun]

trash is like the base for all island

[proud olive]

oh

[opaque sun]

Most importantly offers many upgrades to bottles

[frigid acorn]

why i have to pickup trash in game instead irl

[twilit goblet]

how are you guys getting to 2nd island already? i unlocked trash, currently have 21 bottles + 6 per day and shimmer will need 30 bottles so another 2 days o.o

[opaque sun]

As well as bribes that helps with islands

[vagrant mountain]

gem shop

[opaque sun]

Gem shop sells bottles

[twilit goblet]

ahh

ty

[opaque sun]

Blue gem is farmable so pretty much free in a way

[frigid acorn]

why wont island improve sigil

[opaque sun]

Especially with wurm keys, blue gem is reliably farmable

[teal lynx]

What is the meta for this?

[wind umbra]

think its getting star talent asap

[teal lynx]

[glacial venture]

book....others are no competion

[frail mauve]

When is giant mob reset? Mine didnt reset yet

[glacial venture]

when is your weekly reset?

[frail mauve]

Today, i checked my guild weekly

[opaque sun]

Thats a bad advice

[leaden shuttle]

I think its not the same for everyone

[frail mauve]

I am stupid, its tomorrow

[glacial venture]

why is it a bad advice @opaque sun?

[opaque sun]

The talent book is not a 1% upgrade. Its gambling for a 1% chance to get book. or 99% to waste 3 pts

[glacial venture]

who says we dont know that?

[wind umbra]

yeah but its far and away the best upgrade

[opaque sun]

300 shimmer pts and 200 star points for like a 3% all stats

That 300 shimmer points would give you more samplng power if spent on stats and skill effi

[glacial venture]

it depends on your best dps on the island

so it gets better and better over time

[opaque sun]

The total damage shimmer upgrade gives you multiplicative damage btw

Even if you got book only spending 3 pts, its still meh

The talent’s all stat % scales real bad

[wind umbra]

hm ok u could be right

someone else was talking about it saying it could give 50% all stat

[glacial venture]

btw...is the task rotation for everyone the same?

[wind umbra]

which sounds op af

[leaden shuttle]

What should I do in trash island, more trash into bribes?

Or just rush bribes

[opaque sun]

50% all stat is like maybe if you got 1e500 damage

Which im sure even PC cant handle

[dapper prism]

50% sounds like bs

[glacial venture]

i do more trash per day> more bottles per day and then bribes

[leaden shuttle]

You buy them once they are afordable?

[glacial venture]

i buy more trash per day as long as i think price is ok...then i go to bottles and do the same

[opaque sun]

Need big brain math on how many trash upgrades you need to reach bribe the earliest

[glacial venture]

btw...did we have a patch?

[leaden shuttle]

Oh you can buy trash?

[glacial venture]

read that bottles or trash can dissapear...but mine got picked up

[wind umbra]

how does more trash work?

[unkempt quest]

More trash daily

[wind umbra]

does it increase min and max daily?

[dapper prism]

Trash is an RNG range, but still +20% trash and stack that a bunch of times seems like the best option before touching other stuff

It says +20%, so probably whatever your roll is, +20% times however many stacks of the upgrade you have

[opaque sun]

there is a range of trash you can get, but by upgrading it it should raise the range of trash you get daily

[wind umbra]

hmm ok

[twilit goblet]

i like that we are having a serious discussion about trash

[glacial venture]

yeah...totally pro^^

but...lava needs to fix islands

if very unlucky...you get stuck on it

[dapper prism]

only for a day, but still a terrible oversight and honestly kinda bad design to not be able to go back to docks

[glacial venture]

yeah

not everyone has always townportals on them

especially in lower lvls

[dapper prism]

Yup, either way it would have been so damn simple to add a button to the raft "return to docks" or something simple like that

[glacial venture]

or just being back at docks after relog

[somber rover]

Why can some of my charactes go to W5 but not all?

[glacial venture]

i mean....we kinda are already...at least we start fishing when afk on island

[opaque sun]

spike trap chat command is like the final escape pod out of that island

[hollow wasp]

isnt this rly good?

[sweet mirage]

what is the book from this?

[glacial venture]

tbh...i never done spike trap^^

[opaque sun]

That book is from the shop

[dapper prism]

xp is additive, and the rest is worse than chizoar afaik

[opaque sun]

As in 1% to get book for spending 3 shimmers

[hollow wasp]

kk, i use chizoar on mine

[opaque sun]

99% to just waste 3 shimmers

[dapper prism]

It's basically just +1 slab

[glacial venture]

any info somewhere what the starbook from trash island does?

[opaque sun]

Crescent is a very reluctant bis for active as there isnt really any other misc to help active farming

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/wACmQ8e.jpg

[opaque sun]

Steam launch pendant is theoretical bis active, but not many have that

[dapper prism]

else the wiki https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Special_Talents#Filthy_Damage

https://i.imgur.com/OqBb4Do.png

Guess the Rando would get me.. 0.5% afk gain's xD

[prisma drift]

Dang I’ve only found 3 event items

[dapper prism]

Yeh, 1 for me xD

[prisma drift]

Huge 1.5 afk gains

[dapper prism]

at least one of those new islands increases dr on those event items, but still seems very meh

[vagrant mountain]

dummy thicc stats tho kinda good

unless garbage collecting scales like a mofo

[prisma drift]

Dummy thicc is from shimmer

[vagrant mountain]

damn

i tried adding points in dmg on shimmer

not only did it do nothing but the cost scales

[dapper prism]

u change/reload map?

[zealous niche]

Don’t forget to pick up your 10,000,000 trash items before it lags your game

[vagrant mountain]

yeh very negligble dmg

[dapper prism]

as bad as sailing gold bar artifact? xD

[vagrant mountain]

not multiplicative

idk

[marsh knot]

So with doot being a thing is es still best for greenstacksing & rare mob mats

[prisma drift]

ES active will still pull way more mob mats than your vman can

[zealous niche]

It’s the portal skill that makes it superior in that regard, not the double divinity

[dapper prism]

I'm so confused why doot would play a role in that

[zealous niche]

Doot supersedes double divinity

So if it was best because of that then it no longer is

[dreamy spruce]

its best because of portal and multikill talent nvm you already said that

[marsh knot]

i just wasnt sure because im debating on bubo or es as my next 500 after my dk

[dapper prism]

yeh but greenstacking you dont really print, nor rare mob mats except for frisbees (and maybe something else)

[prisma drift]

And dummy thicc dmg

[untold saffron]

got my first blue jackpot in the arcade

[dapper prism]

If it was Vial mat grind then Vman > ES for the mats

[prisma drift]

Y’all out here printing frisbees

[vagrant mountain]

best cuz he can farm gmush (really well)

👍

[dapper prism]

Not yet, but some day xD

[prisma drift]

I bet my vman could

During a speedrun

[vagrant mountain]

[dapper prism]

I have like ~4 or 5ish vials left that are mob drops that id have to 3d print, to lazy to vman run rn though

[prisma drift]

Frisbees affected by multikill. You can get like 40 in a 5 minute afk

[wind umbra]

imma get there one day

[prisma drift]

Dang actually going to green stack

[dapper prism]

Dont people 3D print like few 100's or even 1k+ ?

[twilit goblet]

are Skilling obols mainly from the alchemy shop - decent obols?

[dapper prism]

or what is the 3d print even

[wind umbra]

yeah vman cant really print anything else atm

[prisma drift]

Even 1k an hour would take a long time to green stack

[dapper prism]

just buy a bunch of all the alch obol stuff

[prisma drift]

I’m running through my mob drop vials atm

Vman knocking out like 1 ever day or so

[twilit goblet]

yea i buy till 700 liquid, cant afford more without constantly CC

[dapper prism]

Not really, if u had a 1k sample thats an easy 12k+modifiers per hour which is 300k a day without vman talent.

[prisma drift]

300k a day is still 30 days

That’s a long time for me

[dapper prism]

And as said, that's without vman talent

[prisma drift]

Right but my vman pops 8 hours a day

He never gets extra rolls

[jagged bobcat]

Whats best class for Farming Like Mats and Money. Like rare and normal Monster Mats

[dapper prism]

That would still make it 500k a day at a single roll.

[prisma drift]

Fine you win it would me a moderate amount of time

Not a long time

[dapper prism]

Depends on what "rares" but usually ES if it's from the mob from the map, dk if its from another mob like shiny, miniboss.
Higher world 5 zones like wurms, DK > ES for keys and stuff.

[wind umbra]

its gunna take longer than that for me

[prisma drift]

My vials so far

[dreamy spruce]

nice

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/f7e069c4ed8cf46b3156304d791191c6.png

[prisma drift]

Almost done with Forrest souls

[untold saffron]

[vagrant mountain]

catching up to you

[dapper prism]

Mhmmm

https://i.imgur.com/2pTuNxn.png

[prisma drift]

Wow noob

No balljoe

[dapper prism]

😦

[vagrant mountain]

[dapper prism]

Thread getting close to done

[prisma drift]

Wait is pink salt level 3???

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/9b1cce2cbbc8e53605faa9af1a8974bf.png

put it all on DR?

[jagged bobcat]

Sry for the stupidity but whats es rn XD

[zealous niche]

I swear I keep using my thread by accident somehow

[prisma drift]

Why don’t you rank up your pink vial to 4

[zealous niche]

Little on base agi

[dapper prism]

That sample size is painfully high xD

[zealous niche]

And little on skill gain

[dapper prism]

I'd def level agi to ~10 first

[prisma drift]

Critters is also huge

It’s a multi

[zealous niche]

Maybe DR to level 50?

[dapper prism]

Elemental Sorcerer, should kinda know the classes by w5

[untold saffron]

dr 50, critter 15, agil/xp 10 with 6k left

[dapper prism]

agi str 15

not sure what group cash arcade* is in

Mhm its group 7

[jagged bobcat]

Thanks Mate

[untold saffron]

5k left, may just save them for now

[dapper prism]

Yeh group 7 for arcade cash may not be worth it as it's additive with things like flurbo, po box, guild bonus, all which already adds up to ~100% by itself before multiplying with other groups

[vagrant mountain]

[opaque sun]

although money is something, not a priority stat in the arcade

[zealous niche]

Are you going to get 15 jackpots or 0?
Let’s find out!

[opaque sun]

May want to max drop rate one as we have no idea when it will come back once its out of rotation, and will always be cringy when people ask “what is the current highest drop rate?”

[prisma drift]

Yeah I was in endgame chat and they said if you don’t have 23x youre bad

[hasty pine]

isnt that supposed to work on the achievement

[prisma drift]

775 rounded up

You got unlucky

[hasty pine]

😦

[prisma drift]

You can possibly cheese it

If you have a boat with a tiny loot cap

They update when you cloud save

[hasty pine]

thought i finally got it correct but bad luck

[prisma drift]

So if you get a couple hundred mats it might bump you to 777

[hasty pine]

dont have one that low

😄

[prisma drift]

Unfortunate

Maybe try getting to 777m

[dapper prism]

alternative is to aim to 3.23m main resource

[tacit tulip]

Also he'll have done 1 trade which will mess with the next one