#lategame-chat-w5๐ŸŒ‹-w6๐ŸŒธ

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heavy moth
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smart move ahha whats the DR equiv of the account bonus bunddle im suddlenly at 15X on es

placid mural
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and base stat is fantastic

tight ridge
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base stat is way better than just normal bonus stat i think

placid mural
undone steeple
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BiS implying account buffs is a slot

dapper prism
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Any discussions anywhere about new content?

placid mural
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trash first

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then shimmer

polar iron
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is that 1.2x droprate from gem shop for all characters?

tight merlin
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It is the best bundle ever added to the game so get itGuyMontag

rustic garnet
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Is shimmer really second best?

placid mural
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best gem shop bundle ever made

placid mural
tight merlin
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The bundle better than doot

rustic garnet
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nah

polar iron
rustic garnet
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doot is still way better

polar iron
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the droprate multiplier

rustic garnet
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you get a huge AFK% there too

placid mural
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all characters

dreamy spruce
polar iron
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damn wtf all characters is crazy

rustic garnet
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and you get 5 players that aren't stuck in the lab

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like, as much as I like 300% DR... 5 more chars you can play with is HUGE

tight merlin
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For 20bucks its wqy better than doot

wanton obsidian
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Can someone tell me if higher construction lvl affects xp/hr ?

rustic garnet
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20 bucks for this is way better than 500 for doot, yes

polar iron
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lava knew what he was doing with this pack lol

untold saffron
heavy moth
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@signal osprey not 11K but good call

tight ridge
rustic garnet
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yes, I agree Felix

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and everyone giving 6x boost to sampler too

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like, it's just really strong

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really really strong

signal osprey
dapper prism
hidden quail
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maybe im just blind but when u travel to an island is there no way to come back besides teleporting?

untold saffron
hidden quail
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only went to garbage island and dont see a way back

wanton obsidian
dapper prism
hidden quail
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lol i guess he forgot to give a return option lol

hot prawn
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@hidden quail I think Lava forgot to put a portal there

rustic garnet
coral goblet
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i got the new pack

silver comet
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How much of each stat do you get from shimmers?

coral goblet
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๐ŸŒฐ

rustic garnet
placid mural
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hey guys i just got a Red ball on the furthest slot in arcade

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first time ive ever done that

hidden quail
dapper prism
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Anyhting i need to consider/know properly before starting islands?

rustic garnet
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trash is, from what we can tell, best

coral goblet
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glad i grabbed that pack lol

rustic garnet
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you should buy the pack before buying the things first

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the pack is, by far, the best pack ever

untold saffron
placid mural
rustic garnet
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if you can spend 20 on the game, it is 300-400% DR

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no joke

untold saffron
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shimmer second seems the usual play, some people going fishing

tight ridge
heavy moth
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game hates me Xd

dreamy spruce
tight ridge
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alchemy bubbles also get you alot of gains on ur squire^

edgy pine
heavy moth
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geeting close forr pity doot

hot prawn
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I'd like to know what the crystal island is

untold saffron
edgy pine
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Neet

wanton obsidian
heavy moth
viral snow
livid raft
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I never got sandy pot.. and I no longer even have a chance at him ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

untold saffron
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people would trade super rares for sheepies if they're discont

rustic garnet
edgy pine
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Wait is trade not out yet?

placid mural
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no

viral snow
dapper prism
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Damn Omar wants a lot of candy..

gentle bobcat
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where can i get 3hr time candy???

warped grail
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What is the BEST island to unblock

placid mural
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treash

gentle bobcat
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4hr i mean

placid mural
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trash first

rustic garnet
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go to W2 or W1 map

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that's where it popped for me

untold saffron
gentle bobcat
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thanks guys

viral snow
warped grail
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Ty

tight merlin
heavy moth
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left before fomo right after fomo

untold saffron
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he must be a spy sent from W3

ancient sapphire
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How much candy does Omar want

livid raft
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How did you know?!

rustic garnet
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doot, biggy smalls, coliseum, slush and shroom mini bosses are good sources

ancient sapphire
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How do u know lol

rustic garnet
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He wants way more candy than you'd expect

dreamy spruce
gentle bobcat
ancient sapphire
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Ahhh ty ty!!!!

untold saffron
fallow pawn
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should i go for seasalt as second for 90 fishing? or candy 80-90 with old fish IdleHMMMM

dapper prism
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Wait.. the Quests for expedition are not account wide?

untold saffron
placid mural
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they are

dapper prism
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Then it just auto completed one, weird

tight merlin
fallow pawn
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wait 2 weeks for seasalt?

dapper prism
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Does the random event island mean 1 drop guaranteed or just a event? xD

signal osprey
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How fast you think you're gonna get bottles lol

tight merlin
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Trash>shimmer>seasalt

fallow pawn
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no i just wasnt sure which he meant, i guess ill just wait it out then

edgy pine
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Do the quests give bottles?

frozen prairie
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i want seasalt island

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fishing sux

livid raft
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I need moar balls!

untold saffron
bold quiver
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does anyone know what the candy island is about?

bold quiver
lyric sequoia
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bonuses from afking at the island

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But needs a shit tonne of afking, 20k hours to get all the bonuses (ignoring the bonuses for w6/7 stuff)

placid mural
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eventual BiS afk gains trophy based on how much time you spend doing "nothing"

lyric sequoia
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60k if you don't ignore them

fallow pawn
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i kinda wanna see what fractal island does with candies, ive got so many to waste

tight merlin
edgy pine
bold quiver
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is there a place showing what the bonuses are?

untold saffron
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sad times

placid mural
lyric sequoia
bold quiver
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thank you very much

edgy pine
dapper prism
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Can someone screenshot the new gem pack please?

fallow pawn
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kattlekruk with 21,5 dr DK, i bet ill get 0 capes for 6k keys

lyric sequoia
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I'm... very tempted to use that airhorn to wake up skull boy to get more pachinko balls from him

tight merlin
untold saffron
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are the balls in the shop actually worth

placid mural
lyric sequoia
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When DR is in rotation yes

bold quiver
lyric sequoia
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I can easily get more than 100 balls from 2 killroy rounds, especially this week

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100 balls from the shop is 275 gems

dapper prism
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185 gems with limited special atm

lyric sequoia
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Bought all them already

dapper prism
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Can someone please screenshot the new Gemshop bundle?

dapper prism
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Tyvm

placid mural
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most broken pack ive ever seen

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trickzbunny, its a 1.2x DR multiplier account wide. . . .

untold saffron
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5x coin droprate in the next pack boys

dapper prism
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Is that a +20% DR ontop of your current DR like SB talent stuff?

glad crow
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its a must buy on the level of autoloot

weary hinge
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do you need to have a lvl90 fishing immediately?

weary hinge
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thanks!

placid mural
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turned my 14.3 DR to 17.1

lyric sequoia
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Need level 90 to finish the quests

tight merlin
edgy pine
signal osprey
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If you think you have infinite coins that just means you're neglecting your stamps

bold quiver
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my stamps are too expensive, 1 multi eff is costing more than 100 godshard coins

dapper prism
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What's the best island(s) to start of with, and why? ๐Ÿ™‚

plush spear
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The trash island

untold saffron
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trash, it'll be the slowest and has the biggest boosts

signal osprey
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My next stamp upgrades are like 60k godshard

plush spear
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Too many benefits

bold quiver
signal osprey
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You never have enough coins

edgy pine
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Yooooo Peter griffin instead of lava

livid raft
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Level 300 Vman incoming quickly.. was lvl 279 about 20mins ago lol. Now lvl 295.

plush spear
untold saffron
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so doot havers, do the minor bonuses stack or does everyone just have it once?

bold quiver
tight merlin
livid raft
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I have doot and I could not tell you haha.

edgy pine
dapper prism
untold saffron
lyric sequoia
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Trash if trash is cheapest

plush spear
dapper prism
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Ah right looks stackable

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So definetely worth ignoring everything else for a little xD

plush spear
bold quiver
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i''d rather spend 20k h of candy on gmush

plush spear
heavy moth
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just let 1 dude afk there for 2 years

bold quiver
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cool update, bunch of stuff to grind with a bunch of new DR to help players

dapper prism
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Am i blind or is there no way to get back to the Dock if im on trash island except for teleporting?!

untold saffron
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I have 6.6k gems, do I buy the last 4 cogs? other options i still need are 4 lava sprouts, the limited arcade balls or chips for card/pendant doublers

lyric sequoia
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There is no way

tight merlin
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The highlight of the update is the bundle

languid thistle
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Does the Buy Now Bonus (Green Gems) stay if you back out of the Gem Shop?

fading pagoda
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Hello, where is the island update ?

dapper prism
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Sounds like an oversight lol

bold quiver
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ouch almost got the achievement! ol

dapper prism
dapper prism
fading pagoda
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ty

bold quiver
dapper prism
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Thought you meant like, gathering X amount or some crap xD

hot prawn
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Oh yeah, how do you get the world 5 achievement with the 777gold?

lyric sequoia
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Get a 777 number innit

bold quiver
hot prawn
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Oof so pure rng

fallow pawn
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why cant i write the / in idleon ingame chat? for /dance

glacial venture
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i cant do that either...im using steam

bold quiver
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its 50% rng 50% math 10% luck

frozen prairie
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people getting doot w/o even having w5 unlocked sad

bold quiver
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the worst problem is getting to w5 with all gods unlockked and not even understanding what 1 god does lol

edgy pine
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Someone got two doots for free their first two weeks

bold quiver
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bad approach from doot that imo

haughty cove
bold quiver
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hahaha thats most people with doot before unlocking w5 gods

haughty cove
lyric sequoia
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Doot doesn't work until the character you're active on has lvl 2 div, so it at least doesn't obscure the earlier stuff

livid raft
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What stamp do you guys focus with gilded/max discount? Ive neglected stamps for.... ever? So I wanna make sure I get the best bang for my buck on the discount/gilded ones. And fixing to go on a spree trying to get every stamp up to a decent threshold

lyric sequoia
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multitool

rustic garnet
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any pter griffin spottings?

iron jolt
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so do you need lvl 90 fishing to start islands?

rustic garnet
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no

bold quiver
rustic garnet
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you need 90 lvl fishing to progress his quest

bold quiver
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then when its too expensive u do whatevr other u want

iron jolt
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oh lol i see

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didn't click that board

rustic garnet
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I'm wondering if the fishing island is second best as you can get your quest done sooner asn does that mean 60% increase in bottles?

livid raft
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This is what I got right now.

iron jolt
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whats best islands? any opinions on meta yet

untold saffron
bold quiver
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apparently trash > shimer > dunnop

dense eagle
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yea i just wanted to ask we take trash first for sure?

untold saffron
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trash > shimmer > fish > fractal

lyric sequoia
rustic garnet
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ahh I have tons of BJPs

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I was going for the vial

lyric sequoia
iron jolt
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whats in the rando island?

lyric sequoia
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Even green BJP vial is in effect unreachable

edgy pine
crimson gorge
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any idea why my island #8 (mushroom) isn't giving me any chests?

dense eagle
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the quest is accountwide?

untold saffron
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ye

viral snow
lyric sequoia
crimson gorge
iron jolt
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so is rando island just you get to do a nromal random event one time you choose?

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that seems... useless?

hot prawn
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Did I miss lava in w1 town? What did he give?

untold saffron
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he was cycling through them

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its to give people the achievement

dense eagle
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guys what is "shellfish"?

rustic garnet
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oh the 'see lava' achievement?

noble mesa
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I have doot and all athers , and have some gams to spand , shold i apend for 2 doot or save for next rotition?

untold saffron
edgy pine
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Wait if you are one of the people who have a character afk on nothing for two years and unlock nothing island you might be good

dense eagle
untold saffron
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that sounds pretty shellfish to me

dense eagle
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there is a quest to give him 1k shellfish i dont find this item

noble mesa
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I had some at the big crisis , and gat more in the pack

wind umbra
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you can only get if u unlock that island

untold saffron
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should i max my lava sprouts?

wanton obsidian
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How much crit do u get per agility? Ik it's small but I wanna know how much exactly if someone knows

dense eagle
rustic garnet
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selling 5 BJP for one doot

noble mesa
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Lol

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But what shold i do?

weary hinge
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what do you need that for, aside from quest?

wind umbra
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i think recommended is trash>Shimmer>Seasalt

rustic garnet
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a vial for nothing

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You know, the new island ๐Ÿ˜„

edgy pine
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What if it actually boosts it

glacial venture
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can you actually fish on the new island?

rustic garnet
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it almost certianly will boost it

weary hinge
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i got that too. hope it does something

dapper prism
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where are the new fishing spots? is it on an island?

rustic garnet
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yeah it's one of the isalnds

wind umbra
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new seasalt island

fallow pawn
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seasalt island

rustic garnet
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legendary fish one

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sesalt yeah

edgy pine
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I hope that it also counts all of the nothing time you have ever done because I spent a year doing nothing on one character

rustic garnet
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who knows

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probably not

dapper prism
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Mhm, so after trash do i go for seassalt or a different island?

edgy pine
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:,/

rustic garnet
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the guide says shjimmer

odd stream
# rustic garnet

Wait that makes a lot of sense, if it boosts the nothing island then it's an op vial

dapper prism
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Ah right shimmer makes sense

rustic garnet
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shimmer seems like a trivial increase compared to hourly ticks

edgy pine
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Whatโ€™s the most max vials possible rn

dense eagle
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so the trash just comes with time?

dapper prism
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all except pickle(s) and pearl and maybe some salts? +(hampters)*

glacial venture
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any info on how often bottles spawn?

fallow pawn
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well shimmer is base stat not total stat right? so it scales?

grizzled elk
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metal pickle too

rustic garnet
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I think 52 are possible

somber sparrow
rustic garnet
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and I'd bet someone has 48+ vials

pulsar cliff
edgy pine
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Gg

rustic garnet
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what do you get per ?

heavy moth
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nicee

noble mesa
rustic garnet
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and... sus to getting that day 1

edgy pine
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Also itโ€™s pow of 10

rustic garnet
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but heyo

dapper prism
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is shimmer weekly task same for all ppl?

edgy pine
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So atom helps it

pulsar cliff
edgy pine
somber sparrow
dapper prism
pulsar cliff
rustic garnet
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congrats on the luck ๐Ÿ˜‰

pulsar cliff
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ty โค๏ธ

somber sparrow
pulsar cliff
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Too late sry.

edgy pine
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Nah max lvl and screen

somber sparrow
pulsar cliff
dense eagle
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shimmer is our second island?

pulsar cliff
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Eh somewhere inbetween lol

heavy moth
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niceee

odd stream
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Is it multiplicative?

heavy moth
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shimmer island how many try

edgy pine
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Ok now star talent reset and lvl 200

dapper prism
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Can you dps check on dummy as often as you want?

edgy pine
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It might get possibly 10% or just 5 idk

untold saffron
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the task is tied to your weekly reset too

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not its own thing like the pet bullshit

edgy pine
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I lost one pet reset honestly

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It was sad

fathom grove
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Whatโ€™s everyone at

edgy pine
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Eukdhjdiwkxjjd

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What

rustic garnet
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100 trillion damage, 7 atom all levels is 21 powers...

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That's 27% all stats at level 49

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that's a pretty big numbber

heavy moth
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rip mine

restive aspen
zenith nova
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My daily are about to reset, how do I get bottles since I messed it up first time and got zero lol

rustic garnet
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and if you go to 200, it's surely going to be in the high 50%s

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someone got the number for 200 thicc?

dapper prism
lyric sequoia
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What character and what sheet damage got you almost 250Q DPS, holy moly

restive aspen
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dummy thicc star talent is definitely OP at end game

rustic garnet
rustic garnet
fathom grove
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Zelb

restive aspen
boreal cosmos
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can you snapshot card drop rate still?

glacial venture
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hm...seems you can be stuck on an island if you dont have a b. town portal on you

restive aspen
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sucks that shimmer trials at 1 a week

rustic garnet
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wow you have some crazy high bubbles

dapper prism
rustic garnet
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what do you 1 hour claim?

lyric sequoia
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Imagine claiming the trial and then getting the book after and missing out of 50% all stats

dapper prism
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Either way terrible and obvious oversight

edgy pine
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Or also ez shp

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Shop

rustic garnet
untold saffron
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right should I be pushing everyone to level 425 or 450, they're 380-410 right now

lyric sequoia
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shimmer

rustic garnet
dapper prism
rustic garnet
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I wonder if rolling for the book is the best choice on Shimmer

fathom grove
edgy pine
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Isnfkekkxkwki

rustic garnet
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ok, so ES is best to try dps chek on?

glacial venture
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no clue at what time you can actually do that but if its once you reach w2...it could happen that a player has no free tele options or access to shops from anywhere yet

restive aspen
edgy pine
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400% crit and all

rustic garnet
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why is SB better?

dapper prism
rustic garnet
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SB seems to have no real powerhouse abilities

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lightning zaap on ES is gonna carry hard

restive aspen
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I did 1400B on SB but haven't tried ES yet. SB has stupid high base damage and the his abilities are pretty good dps wise near their max. Gonna try ES next though

dapper prism
rustic garnet
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looks like that is the case

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well

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actually no?

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5k for 9 reward would be 45k

signal osprey
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It diminishes pretty hard

dense eagle
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do we spam the 1% chance for star tallent? or we go for stat first?

signal osprey
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Highest I've seen is 17 and that was at close to 150k stats

wind umbra
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i think i was at 50kish and got 11

rustic garnet
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I dunno it feels a lot like the book is BIS

lyric sequoia
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Someone was getting 16 with 135k all stats in endgame chat, so the bar probaly just ends at 45k

dapper prism
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Just wondering if there's any way to know how close i am to the "next" reward

dapper prism
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oh wow didnt realize the bar

rustic garnet
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@pulsar cliff can you show the multiplier for max level thicc?

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oh it looks like 10 might be max then?

dapper prism
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Also the the "base stats" from shimmer shop remain 1 cost/stat?

unreal fox
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best class should i use?

lyric sequoia
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10 is not the max

glacial venture
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hm....wont save my bought stuff from trash island...when i buy and do cloudsafe afterwards....its reset

pulsar cliff
dapper prism
fallow pawn
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is quick slap not worth it for dmg ? you seem to have most of your dmg through main stat bubbles @fathom grove

edgy pine
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New bottle contest

signal osprey
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Quick slap is the best for damage but it requires atoms so its really a matter of preference

rustic garnet
restive aspen
edgy pine
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Gem contest

signal osprey
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But if you're hourly clicking consistently you dont need it you just get it if you want to

rustic garnet
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ahh that's bene up for a bit

lyric sequoia
edgy pine
rustic garnet
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you just said 136k got 16

zealous niche
rustic garnet
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yeah, not even close

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136,000/16 is 8500 stats per point

fathom grove
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This was mine

lyric sequoia
zealous niche
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Definitely a decay of higher values taking more stats per point

lyric sequoia
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So 2 at 5k, 3 at 10k, etc

zealous niche
dapper prism
dense eagle
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10 at 45k

zealous niche
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135 got 17

rustic garnet
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I suspect there is either funky formulae

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or each bar is harder to fill

dapper prism
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and 6 for 15k

rustic garnet
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15k for 6
35k for 9
51k for 11
136k for 16

edgy pine
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Maby first one is at something like 5k then 10.5k and so on?

rustic garnet
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It's clearly DR'd in some nature

edgy pine
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Because the 1.6x must mean something

rustic garnet
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20k for 3, 16k for 2, 85k more for 5

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I'm guessing it's a muliplier

dapper prism
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Just need more samples, then play around with the values

rustic garnet
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like each time you get one, you muliptliy the next stat needed ... like 1.2x per?

lyric sequoia
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I wonder how good or bad that sample size stamp will scale

edgy pine
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Prob bad

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But good if you have money

signal osprey
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Should be on the wiki

dapper prism
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sample size or 3d print?

lyric sequoia
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Potential for 90% sample rate without prayer, however unlikely it is

full cobalt
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when does trash island proc? this is neat

signal osprey
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That stamp has been in the game files forever

rustic garnet
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It's almost exaclty 1.25 muliplier each point

orchid wing
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Guys, where do you find the rare Shellfish for Omar da quest?

edgy pine
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Fish island

rustic garnet
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x*y^1.25 I think is the formulae

versed sapphire
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whats the best island to unlock rn

edgy pine
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Trash first

rustic garnet
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x being a base stat, y being your claim number

edgy pine
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Then maby shimmer seems

rustic garnet
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Here's my guess in a non algebra way

little harbor
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What bugs does Omar want (after fishing 70+)? It isnt showing up on my quest log or quest list.

edgy pine
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Welp imma go read manwha and such and wait for iOS

wind umbra
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fruit and bees iirc

little harbor
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ty

rustic garnet
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That's my extrapolation on the data set so far

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5000 base value, *x^1.25

lyric sequoia
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1m all stat for 25 shimmers? ezpz

restive aspen
rustic garnet
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Would be good to test it against a few other claims

rustic garnet
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I suspect max books on ES is going to return more as you get a crazy amount of meteors

wind umbra
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doesnt ur calc not work for zelbmaj's claim?

rustic garnet
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ahh it's a bit too high

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one sec

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let me adjust the base stat

restive aspen
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SB for me was 1450B and ES was 1506B. It's close and after fully juicing ES he eeked out. No, they have similar maxes at 220+ for attack skills for each. The meteors don't change much actually because they go all over the place

rustic garnet
dapper prism
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when dps checking make sure to do more than 1 round back to back

rustic garnet
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That's with 4500 as the base

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That should fit all of the current data points

restive aspen
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whereas SB is able to unload pretty much every single attack directly onto the dummy whereas ES is a little more RNG with whirlwind and the meteors going everywhere plus the casting delays

dapper prism
# rustic garnet

need to roam in w2-4 chat and find some low loot people for better estimates

gray thicket
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Which island do I buy first?

wind umbra
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idk i might be dumb but doesnt it still not work for zelbmaj?

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he is at 136k for 17

fathom grove
#

It rounds up

wind umbra
dense eagle
restive aspen
rustic garnet
#

47 for 10

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ok one sec

gray thicket
rustic garnet
#

Was Zelb 136k for 17?

gray thicket
wind umbra
#

ye

rustic garnet
#

ok I had it at 136 for 16

dapper prism
#

136.7 for 17

restive aspen
sacred verge
#

any1 here can give me quick summary on what to think about/ do with the islands. anyting important ?

gray thicket
#

ohhh

dapper prism
tawdry epoch
#

In shimmer should i invest for book or stats

edgy pine
gray thicket
#

Oh god... the elemental sorcerer hat is a must, isn't it? it looks so cool

rotund sand
#

How do we get more bottles ?

rustic garnet
#

I'm wondering if the formulae is going to be something like... 5000^1.25^1.26 etc etc...

gray thicket
sacred verge
#

also the new pack for DR was insane...

gray pagoda
#

What's going on with the whole Peter Griffin thing?

rustic garnet
#

just a goof

gray pagoda
#

Ah, ok

#

Figured, just wasn't 100% sure lol

vocal ibex
#

Ya see the new gem pack ??

rustic garnet
#

new gem pack, is, an order of magnitude the best gem pack ever

#

it's broken good

#

like... maybe too good

fathom grove
gray pagoda
#

Ngl, as a f2p player, I'm a bit salty

gray thicket
rustic garnet
#

at least it isn't doot level cost

hollow wasp
gray pagoda
#

Like, that thing is completely off limits

gray thicket
hollow wasp
lyric sequoia
rustic garnet
#

iLogix, this last one gives 400% DR

hollow wasp
#

lol what

#

rly

weary hinge
#

fk the bottles disappear if you dont get them

hollow wasp
#

oh i have 4.85x dr now

gray thicket
hollow wasp
vocal ibex
#

I didn't even see my bottles

#

Wtf

hollow wasp
rustic garnet
#

nice

weary hinge
#

if you dont get them then change map i think it disappears

gray thicket
lyric sequoia
gray thicket
#

I officially suck at this game

rustic garnet
gray thicket
#

an idle game at that exit

rustic garnet
#

Also question -- has anyone got their daily bottles today?

#

Or is it only if you got a super late reset?

weary hinge
rustic garnet
#

if that's true

#

utterly crap

oblique ingot
#

it is true... happened to me as well

gray thicket
rustic garnet
#

what a terrible system

#

seriously not sure wht to expect anymore though

lyric sequoia
#

It'll probably get patched, probably

viral snow
tall dirge
#

imm TOTAL STUCK WHAT DO I DO

viral snow
#

Also crystals despawn if you leave the island

rustic garnet
wide belfry
#

i have been stuck at ~500m damage for the last 10 days despite getting like 100+ cooking levels, leveling talents and more, how in the world do people get to like 5+billion damage? are the last Bubbles just insanely op or what am i missing that gives me that 10x damage multiplier?

rustic garnet
#

its all the bublbes nicku

zealous niche
#

telepathically finds out @tall dirge โ€˜s problem then answers it

restive aspen
#

citringe is def now my fav map to active bubo at, good gains, gives me a good reason to max out that vial and gives more oj juices that I need for a bubble

rustic garnet
#

Alchemy then, that's the answer

tall dirge
#

i mean what island do i pick

rustic garnet
#

Trash

untold saffron
#

trash and shimmer

#

then sea salt

lyric sequoia
rustic garnet
#

just take trash then shimmer, good start

#

My model doesn't QUITE work for the level 17 shimmer claim

zealous niche
restive aspen
#

trash+shimmer if you can but if you want to speedrun fishing after level 30 fishing then sea salt island

rustic garnet
#

but I think there is an escalator formulae after the first bar

wide belfry
rustic garnet
#

I don't know where youa re stuck

edgy pine
rustic garnet
#

rift?

restive aspen
#

because its like 50-100x fishing xp compared to medium fish

rustic garnet
#

everyone gets to a point on the rift where they are stuck

wide belfry
green eagle
#

which island should i go first and second?

#

i'm leaning toward legendary fish

#

lmao

lyric sequoia
tall dirge
#

what is shimmer?

rustic garnet
#

Trash island is defo first island....

#

read the tips and tricks

#

it's there

wide belfry
restive aspen
weary hinge
#

man the vanished bottles are so annoying

rustic garnet
#

if you want details, read, if you want a quick and reasonable answer: Take trash

zealous niche
rustic garnet
#

I don't see the stats from shimmer being THAT strong

#

hourly clicks seem to spank it

zealous niche
#

Theyโ€™re base

rustic garnet
#

but thebook is really good

lyric sequoia
#

Shimmer for book chance yo

little harbor
#

so, shimmer is the way to go?

gray thicket
zealous niche
tall dirge
#

this smells green gem/6 months ?

rustic garnet
#

I think rolling for thicc book is just BIS

vocal ibex
#

Where are the bottles stored ??

#

I bought came out of menue and didn't see anything

zealous niche
#

W3 is when you could realistically reach the expeditions when fresh

rustic garnet
vocal ibex
#

Not in inventory

rustic garnet
#

so... that is 3 or 4 single upgrade stats per week from shimmer

lyric sequoia
#

Added to the board, like it says when you purchased them

vocal ibex
#

What board

#

For what I'm lost xD

rustic garnet
#

do the content my dude and look

#

tehre is a board in w2

swift pecan
#

What in the new gem pack gives the big dr boost.

green eagle
#

oh it's beautiful

lyric sequoia
#

Why are you buying things from the shop that you have no idea what it is for, go find the content first

zealous niche
green eagle
#

and it isn't even someone who does well with fishing

vocal ibex
#

Okay thank u guys

zealous niche
#

The new content that just dropped

vocal ibex
#

I literally was so excited

pulsar cliff
vocal ibex
#

I'm go look

rustic garnet
pulsar cliff
#

^

lyric sequoia
languid vapor
#

Why cant i update idleon on steam?? It doesnt show that there is an updateโ€ฆ

green eagle
#

i'll go check what my vman does

rustic garnet
#

Something has skyrocketed my damage...

#

I'm doing maybe 10x my damage before patch?

#

what the heck is going on

near coral
#

what is best fishing setup for accessories for targetting kraken

rustic garnet
#

my ES is doing literally 10x damage from yesterday

languid vapor
# zealous niche Did you auto update?

Well i make it so that steam automatically updates things but it didnt this time bc when i join it says โ€œupdate before u can playโ€ or something

zealous niche
#

Hm, do an integrity check of the files?

#

May trigger an update

sacred verge
#

for DK do i keep orb under 270 or can i go to 300? seen ppl say 300 works aswell but i dont see how

rustic garnet
#

not going ot complain tooooo much but seriously I was doing kattlecruck in like 5 minutes, now in 20 seconds

lyric sequoia
#

Check your download tab, it may be queued to download

rustic garnet
sacred verge
#

to keep it from resetting itself@rustic garnet

near coral
languid vapor
rustic garnet
#

I don't know if there is any way to 'reset orb' without way more numbers

languid vapor
rustic garnet
#

Has anyone else tried kattlecruk nightmare on a char that seemed 'slow' today?

#

my ES is doing way more damage

restive aspen
zealous niche
#

However if you donโ€™t want it cast over, you could just remove it from action bar while itโ€™s going?

sacred verge
#

when cast over the number resets, so keeping it at something like 290 will reset the score twice

weary hinge
#

i trade for doot

restive aspen
rustic garnet
#

is there any reason I would be doing 10x more damage?

restive aspen
#

my vman does 3mill fish xp per hour on med fish, I'm sure it would be like 150mill on seasalt

prisma vigil
#

How far have you guys pushed your kills for portal/orb/flag? I'm not far, but just looking at what I should reasonably aim for :p

restive aspen
near coral
#

my portal is up to 3.48m. I suspect that's pretty low though

restive aspen
#

but I don't play those char active often

#

im sure if I left ES to just kill farm active it'd be in the millions by now

rustic garnet
#

Anyway, I was able to kill the next rift mega mob on my ES, really strange

prisma vigil
restive aspen
rustic garnet
#

I have 3.59 kills too

dense eagle
#

best active card farming is ES?

rustic garnet
ocean lily
#

Just 2 hours to go!

restive aspen
rustic garnet
#

again not complaining, just curious if I did something great and not realized it

restive aspen
#

also double checked my stuff via acheivements. Orb is closing in one 100k, 27k for hole and 1500 for flag

rustic garnet
#

also I wonder if I should pump this?

#

it seems very trash

restive aspen
rustic garnet
#

really though?

#

so watch me put a point in

restive aspen
#

that seems like a decent jump even for 1 point. you got super big numbers though so it might not seem like much

rustic garnet
#

That's less than 1/1000th of an increase

#

it's terrible

sacred verge
#

where do i spend this?

tough tusk
#

which island should i go for first?

rustic garnet
#

This is 1 point of believer strength

restive aspen
rustic garnet
#

that's 1/100th of an increase

#

no it's way more

pure meadow
pallid junco
rustic garnet
#

it's way more

#

I mean, if I had a second ES

#

that sat and did nothing

#

I'd consider it a positive and take it on the second ES

#

but it seems very, very low damage increase even considering it is 'for all chars'

green eagle
#

so. my vman did 6.7m/hr on medium fish before

rustic garnet
#

yeah that's insane boost

versed cypress
#

and considering fishing afk windows are not really accurate

#

cause they just show you the ammount of exp based ont he easiest fish to catch

rustic garnet
#

1k more kattlekruk keys down the drain 17.8DR, no drops again ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

restive aspen
# rustic garnet

that's a change of min of 70mill and 150mill for max. The change from that to the other is 60mil to 100mill for min and max respectively

rustic garnet
#

check again

fervent brook
#

What bosses are the biggest pain in the ass to get to 5 star. I have quite a few 5 star cardifiers left after maxing out the event cards.

versed cypress
rustic garnet
#

yeah ๐Ÿ˜ฆ or even an obol

#

I've got none of them up to 8k keys now

versed cypress
#

damn that sucks ><

plain hedge
#

hi guys. how can i get shellfish?

versed cypress
#

8k keys and no cape is actualy quite bad

rustic garnet
#

yeah, tell me about it ๐Ÿ˜‰

pure meadow
versed cypress
#

you can farm w3 boss keys in the coli

rustic garnet
#

I've not dropped any cape apart from W1 boss

pure meadow
rustic garnet
#

so I'm generally cursed with capes

versed cypress
#

hope you can get it soon nate

rustic garnet
#

at least kattlecruck dies way faster now

#

I don't know what I did to 10x my damage

signal osprey
#

I got like 3 chiz capes in my first 5k keys and then took 27k keys to get my first kruk cape. Rng can be fun Grumblo_with_bunny_ears_partying

pure meadow
#

maybe lava fixed something with this update or moved something around

rustic garnet
#

I have 5 strung tooths btw

#

how is this possible?

#

like, the obol is 4x more likely to drop

versed cypress
#

some extremely bad rng

restive aspen
# rustic garnet your numbers are off

146449-146372 = 77 mill. 305371-305210 = 161 mill. For the 1 point in wormhole. For the other its 146500- 146449 = 51 mill. 305478 - 305371 = 107 mill. For believer strength.

fervent brook
#

Boop is probably a good boss to use it on.

rustic garnet
restive aspen
#

I'm pointing out that your overall boost between the two skills, the wormhole is giving you bigger numbers either way. That's all

#

you said to check my math so I'm showing you my math

#

if you want max only, you're getting ~50% more by putting into wormhole

plain hedge
#

how can i get shellfish?

rustic garnet
#

ahh believe strength is bad too, nm

pure meadow
rustic garnet
#

they both are very poor dps increases

fervent brook
#

Wait did Lava add in a way to actually get good Fishing exp now?

rustic garnet
#

yes

#

well, better

restive aspen
restive aspen
dusty garden
#

How can i gain trash for trash island?

versed cypress
#

decent way if you have good eff for it xDDD

rustic garnet
#

go there

#

pick it up

pure meadow
#

there will be new trash to pick up

restive aspen
#

should see similar gains to mine and chop with the new fish spot tbh

pure meadow
#

its a sloooow progress apparently

dusty garden
#

I picked up 19, is there a way to gain more?

restive aspen
versed cypress
#

use those 19 anf give them to the fish to increase how much trash spawns daily

restive aspen
#

It might be DR affected? I picked up 36 when I went

dusty garden
#

Ohh okay, thats what called trash exactly ๐Ÿ˜‚

versed cypress
#

i mean we did got told that everything about the islands is meant to take a long time to do

quiet pewter
restive aspen
lyric sequoia
dusty garden
lyric sequoia
#

Put points in it when you have the spare points, basically

restive aspen
pure meadow
lyric sequoia
#

5% is basically nothing, it's additive with other stuff if memory serves

signal osprey
#

Yeah but that talent is trash even compared to other incremental gains lol

rustic garnet
#

which talent?

pure meadow
#

the wormhole

rustic garnet
#

ahh

versed cypress
#

if it is the talent for the extra dmg from ammount of portal kills, yeah its additive

restive aspen
lyric sequoia
#

A lot of things in this game say things that aren't true

rustic garnet
#

You have a TON of mulpliers on damage

#

that's why it's bad

restive aspen
#

rip

versed cypress
#

all talent % multipliers are additive with each other

rustic garnet
#

It's probably within the 'total damage' muliplier bracket

#

which is absolutely crap

signal osprey
#

Even if it was a separate multi it still wouldn't do much

rustic garnet
#

yeah, 2% damage... like c'mon

signal osprey
#

I probably get more damage per day from hourly clicks then that talent would give

rustic garnet
#

yep

lyric sequoia
#

The quiet part the skill doesn't say is "it's multiplicative, but inside a group of other damage multipliers making its boost tiny"

versed cypress
#

i mean if it was separate ify ou are pumping 2-5% extra from doing like 10T dmg its still close to 400B extra dmg

#

so it would be significant there

rustic garnet
#

Yeah, people haven't been talking enough about hourly clicks

#

basically once you get enough sample speed

pure meadow
#

got my first kattlecrug necklace happy is it actually better than chizoars scarf?

rustic garnet
#

you get 1000m of something per hour (or 2, or 3 hours) and you can click alchemy bubbles

#

and get massive, consistent, gains

#

it's the fastest way to progress, bar none, in the game

versed cypress
#

the dmg % bubbles at the end of the current alchemy chain are its own multi so thats why they are really good

pure meadow
#

thank you

restive aspen
signal osprey
#

Gonna be at 5k base stat bubbles soon. Lava please remove hourly clicks this shit isn't good for the game grumblo_thumbsup

fervent brook
#

Welp pretty thankful I kept Vmann on fishing. Just got to level 90 for the new quest lol

rustic garnet
restive aspen
rustic garnet
#

I think hourly clicks are probably the worst thing possible we could have

#

it's far too active play

#

and VERY boring

#

and tedious

signal osprey
#

Yeah its such a bad thing to encourage and its going to be a nightmare balance wise

rustic garnet
#

yep

#

some super strong players will be there because they have 50k base clicks

lyric sequoia
#

"automatically purchase any affordable bubble" pet coming to a gacha system near you

rustic garnet
#

oh no

#

so, here, just thinka bout this

signal osprey
#

Like I get more strength from my first bubble then half of the people in the channel have on their warriors

rustic garnet
#

it takes 20 hourly clicks for 100 days to get 2k bubbles

signal osprey
#

Kind of ridiculous

lyric sequoia
#

Balanced because it also forces you to buy all the bubbles that you left at lvl 1

rustic garnet
#

just think about that

lyric sequoia
#

No you cannot turn it off

quiet pewter
#

w6 should have a crappy robot AI thing, that you upgrade to be able to do basic tasks for you (aka hourly clicks), sorta like a bona-fide autoclicker but with sever limitations

rustic garnet
#

it takes 100 days of 20 hours of play to get 2000 of a base bubble

signal osprey
#

Well not quite

rustic garnet
#

yeah I know

#

Vman

#

but still

signal osprey
#

You're not accounting for Larry

rustic garnet
#

you know what I mean

#

oh sorry

#

also larry

#

ok fine!

#

4000 base

#

or 50 days

#

it's a LOT of effort

#

and it breaks balance very much

signal osprey
#

Also omni inflates them a lot too

rustic garnet
#

we're seeing players with 300qq damage

wary girder
#

what are people recomending to pick up this arcade shop?

rustic garnet
#

yep

empty glade
#

I've had all my characters afk for like a day in div now, what do i do ? I dont wanna mess things up

wary girder
#

skill exp gain?

fervent brook
#

Make sure you do as many of the Omar quests as you can do now.

lyric sequoia
#

No one has 500qq damage lmao

rustic garnet
#

why is that phil?

pure meadow
#

but what should he do about it? cap alchemy bubbles? that kinda kills a lot of endgame incentive, right? make bubbles more expensive so it doesnt work hourly? that screws a lot of people just reaching that point who couldnt "abuse" hourly clicks yet?

rustic garnet
#

Cephyric, someone did 236qq damage

lyric sequoia
#

You've added a Q there

rustic garnet
#

it was posted in this chat earlier, zelb I think

fervent brook
rustic garnet
#

you are right, 246Q

weary hinge
#

lava should really fix the despawning bottles.

rustic garnet
burnt veldt
#

yeah, it feels bad to miss out on the first day

lyric sequoia
#

There's an overwhellmingly huge difference between 200Q and 200QQ damage in terms of gains needed to get there

rustic garnet
#

200Q damage is sitll crazy

signal osprey
#

Honestly not as overwhelming as you think

fervent brook
lyric sequoia
#

Just like there is an absurdly large difference between 200T and 200Q in terms of gains needed

signal osprey
#

The scaling on the base damage bubbles is silly

rustic garnet
#

I also don't think it's as overwhelming either

pulsar cliff
signal osprey
#

And is 100% getting nerfed

rustic garnet
#

it is

#

He missed this big time

lyric sequoia
#

A group of less then 100 people managing to get there does not mean that scaling it out of control lol

rustic garnet
#

It's definitely out of control

signal osprey
#

But its only 100 people right now

crisp silo
#

wtf i needa come back at fish lvl 70 bruh, is this quest accwide?

signal osprey
#

And now people are looking at those 100 and following suit

#

Theres more to come

rustic garnet
#

The fact that so few people were talking about hourly clicks up till now

#

is the ONLY reason it wasn't more wide spread

#

no where was this talked about as the 'thing to do'

heady turtle
lyric sequoia
#

The same group of people have had absurd levels of damage and gains for years, it's hardly new and is purely down to them playing the game for lengths of time that is not possible to compete with (like literally)

tawdry epoch
#

Itd been a thing for a while now tho

rustic garnet
#

Frankly, I think that's where I got my 10x damage increase that I was completely ignorant of

quiet pewter
#

ive heard hourly clicks mentioned for quite a while, i jsut dont do it because it sounds boring. i dont think its any big secret no one knows about

rustic garnet
lyric sequoia
#

"so few people"? Bruh hourly clicks have been known and talked about for as long as they have been possible to do

signal osprey
#

It really hasn't been that hushed

#

I've been openly talking with people about clicks in this channel for months now

tawdry epoch
limber prairie
#

Damn it just keeps loggin me out

gray pagoda
#

Do we know what fractal island does yet? I'm assuming not, just want to make sure.

lyric sequoia
#

Fractal is a "don't bother"

signal osprey
#

Theres been no real attempt to keep it quiet or anything people just pick up on it at different rates I guess

lyric sequoia
#

afk time on the island = bonuses, but the period of time needed to get the bonuses is large

crisp silo
#

wait so is new quest acc wide?

signal osprey
#

Yeah

rustic garnet
#

sorta

lyric sequoia
#

10k afk hours for all the bonuses up to w5, 60k for the ones beyond currently

rustic garnet
#

the levle 90 one isn't

#

the ones before it are

crisp silo
#

lets gooooooooooo

#

i can use vmanm

zinc torrent
#

Huh. Leveling fishing has a new incentive now

rustic garnet
#

I've completed the level 90 quest on vman, but it is still not complete on others

zinc torrent
#

Is 90 the final one?

gray pagoda
rustic garnet
lyric sequoia
#

Who knows, the wiki might

zinc torrent
#

Is there a way to speed up sailing time under 2 hrs?

#

It looks like they are shared between chars

rustic garnet
#

Sorry, it isn't

#

this is the last one:

zinc torrent
#

Did the first few on barb and then needed high level and swapped to vman and continued there

hot prawn
#

Does every char get the quest complete for the one talent? *From the ogre fishing quest

north pecan
#

wheree do I get the new unlocked stamp from trash island

pulsar cliff
#

It's not between charaters? Fml lol only my vman has that kinda fishing level. And by that level I mean I need another 10.

lyric sequoia
#

Just pull 1000 shellfish from storage like all other quests that ask for items? Should be an easy complete

quiet pewter
rustic garnet
#

you have shelffish?

brisk bane
#

To unlock an Island you need 70 fishing?

north juniper
#

Maybe I missed it but what does that straw dummy do when you hit it. I hit it for a score but that was all.

north pecan
pulsar cliff
lyric sequoia
#

It's 1 of the new fish, so you just fish for them nbd

rustic garnet
fervent brook
#

Its kind of dumb for the new pack Nametag to be for fight afk and fishing efficiency lol.

north juniper
gray pagoda
north pecan
lyric sequoia
#

Island unlocks are account wide, that's fine

zinc torrent
#

I only have trash Island yet and no real bonus unlocked there.

Whats the order? Trash shimmer ???

pulsar cliff
rustic garnet
#

Sure, but you need the island unlocked before completing it

quiet pewter
north juniper
#

Oh. Well with only 5 shimmers youd need some insane luck to get that day 1

rustic garnet
#

yep

north pecan
lyric sequoia
#

Unlocking the island is purely "wait til lyou can afford it", that's not character-specific

north juniper
#

Whats the new talent anyhow?

rustic garnet
#

%Stats

#

per total damage done on the target

#

power of 10

brisk bane
#

To be able to unlock an island you need to be 70 fishing right?

pulsar cliff
#

What Nate said lol

quiet pewter
gray pagoda
quiet pewter
#

any one else tried the stamp, or its bugged?

gray pagoda
#

Oh, nevermind, I missed your message Nate lol

novel salmon
#

im fresh in w5 what to do now? anything special?

zinc torrent
#

Whats the lvl 200 bonus on that one?

north juniper
# pulsar cliff

Did that 1 click on the book and prayed like no tomorrow ey?

pulsar cliff
#

Not crazy higher? In total 4.2% all stats

north juniper
pulsar cliff
cold jackal
pulsar cliff
#

Figured why not, I could bitch about RNGesus if it didn't go my ways

north juniper
#

Do we just get shimmers every day?

novel salmon
#

so afk at divinity?

wind umbra
lyric sequoia
#

You could just look at the fairy to see the answer to that

pulsar cliff
serene forum
#

Is shimmer island any good?

#

After garbage

north juniper
crisp silo
#

which island is the combat island?

simple coral
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Trying to figure out best ways to increase my gaming bits multiplier...

Is the golden nuggest completely random? What exactly is "big nugget luck" with the dirty shovel, does it increase the max number at all?

crisp silo
north juniper
regal tapir
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how do i gain more garbage?