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Does this help divinity? I feel like Iโve made no progress for a month, just with everyone on mantra and only level 42-45 now. What am I missing?
https://i.gyazo.com/3e3f3f5a712d1d0302970720d7cb167c.png
these should really display in the same format gaming uses for bits B/T/Q white/green/red
put it and see the exp
if it doesn't increase, you'll know it
im too dumb to read scientific notation 
just look at the E value. if they are different, each difference is a multiple of 10. E1-E2 is 10x, E1-E3 is 100.
if the same, ignore E value and look at rest as normal
yeah that could work
gets hard when iits QQQs
or higher. adding letters is hard to differentiate, also only so many colors before it can be confusing, where numbers go up
I feel like the game has come to a screeching halt, much worse than in other worlds. 9 guys in divinity just getting xp and not unlocking. Gaming seems to do nothing, need some additional multipliers before a new unlock is feasible. Sailing artifacts are so low drops. And the last few in reach donโt have major bonuses. One guy out there slowly grinding through 10M mobs to unlock the final zone so I can get the final vial.
Just feels like I havenโt made meaningful progress in a couple weeks.
W5 is purposely a lot slower than others yes
need to bruteforce sailing, bad luck and still push for it
however if you're saying artifacts have a low rate now on the early islands I have some bad news
make sure you've scrolled over to unlock more than 5 ships and captains if you haven't caught that yet
also do lower distance islands to level ships too, it helps in the long term
Im at 0.02%...
All my ships are set to the furthest island they can do in the minimum time. Should I do lower islands than that?
and headhunt for good captains every reset
ideally ones with both speed and loot, either one is good too, 2 loot for nearby islands or 2 speed for further islands
can help to do lower islands just to level up boats too depending how much you've done that
but won't help i guess with artifacts aside from getting to further islands
Am I doing divinity right? Just pushing to st least level 50 via mantra?
ancienting some early island ones are big gains too
If u have goat/bear u can use him to free some guys
breeding help a bit with sailing ( minimum time + artifact chance )
Its late pats..
I have goat unlocked, my furthest divinity. Only generating xp right now so no others.
How does goat and bear free up people? They are either in lab or divinity. All mine are 70+ lab so no need for them to sit there, right?
My breeding is bad. Only to TV w4. No one farming dna though. Figured I should unlock last vial first.
bear means they can do whatever they want, goat means you dont need to sit in divinity but can go lab instead and level both
Wait if they are on bear they donโt need to be doing divinity?
I thought it just let them always be in lab
drive safe buddy 
Hey gang, I unlocked vman last night but bit unsure what to do now
Did a speedrun and then maxed the cooking talent but it only gives me a 1% boost
the cooking bonus is multiplicitive so it starts small and snowballs later
you should do another speed run with maxed points in the first skill when you can
and max checkmate or whatever in the maustro tree
So after checkmate I have about 470 vman points available
So yeah keep going with the speedruns I guess and build up over time
Spent a lot of effort to get vman so it's a little underwhelming
@zenith nova
https://i.gyazo.com/55500c773c0b2b53b9c2aec5d156f447.png
the cooking bonus gets pretty insane too, and he is the best material sampler in the game by miles
can look underwhelming at first glance for sure but he has a lot going for him
I'm a bit paranoid I'm not doing cooking or breeding correctly tbh
Progress seems slow and not clear on how progress, thought vman might give me that cooking boost
In cooking level up by order , like go for all lvl 11 , start at the first one and go on , the more meals u have the more speed u get so it wiil help u geting more lvls , and u can use idleonofficency to see what meal lvl up the festest
So get everything to lvl 11, then keep levelling diamond chef bubble
Yep
And give littel bit more love to meals thet give cooking speed , it will help u a bit
I'm gonna bother you all a little. I just unlocked the goat. Based on what i've read (pinned message) I should move all my bears characters to it and then go back to the lab right ?
(Feels good to not have the worst luck with gods)
Goat lets u be in lab and get both gains from devinity and lab
Yep I'm aware of that, I just wanted to be sure that I had no reason to continue with the Bear and move everybody there haha
I got another Bean for the 2nd week in a row
Noice
The only issue with going for goat is that I can't use my other characters to do stuff without breaking everything
My atom collider seems to be eating material regardless of if its on or not, am I missing something?
So u can use bear on some of them
My lab is a huge mess (level 7-16) I really need to exp them
U have more then 1050m in 1 stack?
Like are you guys able to get stacks higher than 1050M?
But i'll just swap with one of my active characters (two are outside of the lab / divinity) inthat situation
No, it doesnt get higher than that
No , 1050m is max
It'll still convert 1050 stacks, the feature was put into place to stop overflow issues on mobile at 2.1 bil stacks
Iven if its off
If you want the excess for the skills you can still run multiple stacks
Ok, then nothings wrong
Like 10 copper stacks for 10b on mining buff
Yeah, was about to say
Like meeeee
Ok, thanks guys!:)
I went for that. I need my shrines to level up (1600 hours / 1800 hours) then i'll be able to use my BB for cooking / pushing which I do usually
The rest stays in the lab, it's the best setup atm. Thanks @noble mesa โค๏ธ
(also that character is the one that will be able to go to islands so)
Is Artifact Find chance better than Loot value?
no

Can you explain this? Thought ES was for materials. DK for crystal, and vm for bosses.
Why have them in the lab instead of in divinity with bear? Whatโs the difference?
ES gets materials actively, but vman can sample when using his multikill talent during a speedrun for MASSIVE monster prints
I really have to see how to improve that omg
Bear makes them get lab and div if they are in lab
does the "loot" stat in sailing increase artifact chance?
LF>W3 Wave 121 guide
ty
I'm ruined but...
how does this work? i did it with an 80% chance twwice but nothing happened
To get a now plant type
U just unlucky
damn fr
Or u gat and dident notice
was looking in the log book and i still only have 4 species unlocked
So no luck for u
rigged
which kruk armor pieces are worth it?
finally
All situationally, mob respawn is great, so is dr if you're farming.
Magma is better for damage and skilling though
if dmg then magma best
if DR, kattle helm and boot
if mob respawn for sample or afk, kattle chest and leg
also skilling as above too
I switched all my mouseys to penguins after that to finish that one. Salt lick almost done!!
im going to keep on mouseys until i finish the vial. . . . its going to be a while
even though its a dumb vial
What level honker vial do you have?
10
Probably much better to get more levels of that before you go for mousey max. Itโs not much but it helps
Eh youโre fine there then
im getting about 22m mouseys every 10 hours
Iโm way lazier
I went with 40 hour traps
Mainly because I inevitably forget to check at least once during that same 40 hour time span lol
i totally get it
man i really hate farming for T6 plants
i feel so unproductive. . . .
I am farming achievement more worth it
Plus the sea shell
How do u have it high lvl
I am not good at gaming for some reason
Dam
i was rolling the offerrings this was a 1%
Oh and ur nugget is like mine but with a zero
that is freaking fantastic!
Should I use my ES or my BB for Death Note ? My ES does *3 more kph but like I want to focus on zow and chow (I need more cooking stuff)
Isnt it good for dk?
Well work on bb than use bb for sure
Feel like lava may be good for skilling but kruk for active chars
And active es is more important somewhere else
Dosnt cost much anyways
active es afk bb
you could do both, get es deathnotes from the top down w4 while bb starts from the bottom up
Oh I need to give more setup sorry x_x :
- I'm waiting like 10 hours for my ES to be active (I'm pushing the next levels on my shrines in W5 before moving them to W4 I don't want to lose 1400 hours of xp)
- I'd like to start working on the Vman so 1M as fast as possible for W1-W3
But for the first point I can swap and make the BB being in divinity for the shrines while ES active
if ur trynna get vman asap then ES active for sure
You don't have to do w1-3 on vman, do it on ES or SB
Oh yes I know, but I'd like to have these 1M asap so ES active
It's only the gmush quest that has to be done on it
but I could chow / zow with BB
i guess i'll wait for my shrines to level up
and go for both
yeah do this
So BB afk atm and later today i'll swap (especially with the update)
If you're looking to active kill it then use bubo, that's the fastest raw killer
Thanks โค๏ธ
well the lava armor does in fact cost much and to my knowledge you cant uncraft items so im kinda hesitant to sacrifice my lava gear.
But honestly just either candy it or do it afk. Better things to be done active
I'm not late enough for that tbh
You can easily get 30+ 1hr candies a week, is generally quick and easy to do 1m deathnote
I get like 10k kph (70% afk) on GMush with my BB and 40k with my ES (~60% afk)
ill have to play bubo a while, im too poor for stamps '.'
1 upgrade is costing almost 100 godshard
I've a few candies ngl, but i always keep thing in case ๐ญ
How do i have atoms if i donโt even have the atom collider yet
its automatic after 1050m
O so any additional mats after 1050 gets converted to atoms? ๐
does any of the endgamers upgrades this? cuz i remember this being very worth
How much damage do I need to multikill lamps in W5? My DK just hit 1 B DMG, but cant push W5 since it takes so long
the same as always, 2x HP

is anyone experienceing this? i lost all my levels to cap and rate?
did u use cheats?
not at all
no idea then
this is fustrating :/
The update in tow hours?
Is black diamond ulthurite not in jewel rotation?
You can check the pin in w3 channel for the next time it comes up
It is but gl buying it
Lava said 16h so we have a few hours left 
Yeah honestly the last few jewels are easier to buy with gems
Its not in rotation even a year out ๐
Lava needs to rework this system
I suspect its working exactly as designed
Possibly
U have a year to work on it
sadge
I got the last half dozen or so jewels from the shop. Its pretty fair in that way with no repeats
whats the dr req for infinite farming gems?
Infinite? 
Yeah you can do infinite gems with enough dr
getting there
Alright, thanks
u also need all PO stuff that saves pen
How are gems generated from DR?
bosses drop gems with merit
with enough dr they drop enough pens so you can reroll po 6? I think it is for colo tickets, so you can do w3 colo for boss keys
Does the gaming snail level always drop to 0 or will that change after lvl 6?
does this count different with Kill/Hour? like this => Kill/hour + (kill/hour*57%)
I think it always resets to 0 unless you have atom upgrade
farm those tickets
Can the Bubbles that use bits be atomed?
Jesus christ
no never
no, it boosts base kph, somethingl ike that
atom upgrade`?
oh thank
atom collider from construction
95% of the cases it will be bad if u have multikill @true obsidian
do oranges have higher mob density than floms?
yea is thtat the last bonus?
Last one on the Wiki
this will never drop
Are the hyper obols a five-time only buy from the limited time shop?
can only buy whats there
Those drop pretty easily from crystal mobs right?
Oh yea, but they dont restock right
They've appeared more than once, so it stands to reason they may appear again in the future
they dont, which is unfortunate. idk why lava doesnt release them to normal buy
Does the defender shield have to be over the mob or the axe for it to block
Ah gotcha gotcha, feels kinda bad to get such a small bonus for the amount of gems ๐ค
on top of mob
it must time the axe with shield + pet, exactly like that
So the axe
its a huge bonus
u get 33% more drop rate '.'
from 3 to 4, thats huge
Yeah they generally are a worthwhile purchase
its a very hard skip if u havent bought everything good already ofc
@dreamy spruce does that last upgrade make so that if u are at 5 u cant go back to 0?
I think so, not there yet myself
it does whats saying
every upgrade u push your reset to +5
After lvll 5 it reset to 5 and so on every 5 lvls
mm ye reread it, said nearest 5. nice need to get that
Is it pushing for kruk worth rushing with all characters?
Im not sure what to do now
push everyone to kruk
It will take a while tho
i am so close to giving up on my hunt for T6 plants. . .
indeed. For example, its worth if u can craft at least helmet + boots
Im not at troll yet so idk
if u dont have enough speed or evolve chance u should wait
i see, up to u then
all his items are insanely strong and BIS for what they do
Yeah Im working on troll armor
is that enough?
But forge and salts will take a while
there is a calculator somewhere, u could try using it
probably not, when i actualy tried to get T6 i got each in 1 day or so
Whats your nugget?
doing 15/5
130k
really needs a limit on how many chemical plants you can have a day or something
I hate that aspect of gaming
Oh is this DR multiplicative?
what do u mean? pop obol gives 3%, hyper dice gives 4%
W6 needs to come out so I can candy for magma boots... been farming skulls for 3 days and no skull yet ๐ maybe afk is the way to go
5 once rerolled 
same, 25% increase
+1
its a huge boost
With this DR if I need 5M typically to get 1 drop of the magma boots BP how many should I have to kill now?
only problem is that idk for why reaosn lava doenst want us to spend money kkkkkkkkkk
If you get an already gotten shiny pet, does this reset?
i still dont understand how some people have 17 DR, i can somewhat understand 16. . . but i cant figure the math on getting to 17
some people have 20
i have 18 now
20 on VMan
How?? i dont understand the math there
you have to realize the Kattlekruck trophy is +.5
yes i have the trophy
there is the theoretical max. Assuming u have all hyper dice obols, all boss obols. more than 5M pluderousstacks
you get 1.2 just off 2 cards with doublers
infinite luck bubble
with 100% complete family and personal obols, all cards and card doublers, 2x25% keychains and 1 doubled, kattle trophy doubled, Molten DR cape, DR boots, helm, and maxed PO i only have like 15.4
hopefully we get arcade bonus 27 with new update
gotta keep grinding
assuming lava rerolls arcade shop
grinding what?!? lol
exactly. Drop rate is a stats that keeps going up
Jesus wtf so much DR
I was happy with 6.5 
I saw a DR spreadsheet floating around here last week somewhere with the theoretical breakdown. Trying to find it
when i had 8-9DR i had no idea how to make it go up, now its already 18
can I see your keychains?
are all your cards for DR 5*? boss card set 5*?
the heavy hitters are
there u go XD
x2
This only brings your DR up .23%
6% extra here
yeah this is all going in to me saying "i can see getting to 16 dr"
the throve- with eldrich
I assume this is an item shop keychain?
all of what you are saying is what makes me see the jump to 16 dr
do you have crystal companion sado?
if u dont believe that it will go up, u wont get it
shiny pet bonuses?
yes
How many more hours
u dont even have all DR sources maxed
2 probably
9K luck sado?
to start trying to get DR from base luck stats + plunderous
I hope so I canโt sleep
finish maxing out all DR possible source, then u wil see '.'
8k luck
i could easily go over 18 DR if i had both DR cards from event, only have the worst one
the bad one
i can get 3% more DR from bop box, 6% from boss card set 6% more from giftmas
and remember that every DR u have is multiplied by SB skill, so 18% is not 18%
I don't see how you can easily hit 18DR with the cards
how much does the other one give?
@bold quiverwhats your dr bubble at?
i tihnk 21
204, smoll , luck stats not even atom range
lol so i actually have you beat there
whats that? 30% DR?
u guys are just bad
nah, you are just full of it ๐
i can easily see getting to 16-16.5 with all of the upgrades discussed above
On VMan, right?
and no idea why u assumed my claim wast that lol
i never brought up vman kkkkkkkk
At what lvl do you guys usually switch out your shinies you are lvling up?
6 for me
im not even going to bother logging into SB and equipping DR cards to show cuz u will say im cheating so whatever
5/6 for most, higher for the good stuff
any older player can get 19DR or close to
initially i am switching at lvl 6, once i finish the main ones at lvl 6 im going to go back through and go to lvl 8-9 for the heavy hitters
you're just lying now, and I don't know why
SB doesn't get higher dr than the other classes, btw. You wouldn't need to focus it
go to endgame chat and ask DR of those people
I literally did
he did
and they said 17.5
need to find a stronger guy
he does!
Oh then answer: how
i found that a few days ago whenn i started farming plunderous mobs
he has a skill on archer tab that gives DR, a green sack
ts almost 50% iirc
yeah its very strog
how many Power of 10 atom upgrades do yo have?
Didn't think it does
It does, but you don't farm mobs with SB anyway

see, 1 card = 18, as i said, and it would go over, cuz 21% from card is more than 21%, prob 25-30%
when should i start building atom collider
not even on a vman
is that 5 trillion?
Now
Is this yoru SB?
when you fix your BR 
its written siege breaker lol
everyone says focus on the exp% cogs not on BR so thats what i was doing
This is the way, soon you shall have more build rate through da bubble
call me bob cringe L combs take so long ๐ฆ
2~ more hrs till update right?
and as i said, thats not even a strong DR for endgame. Cuz my luck bubble is missing %, flat luck is horrible, dont have 1 card, dont have hyper dice obols, only have 1 boss obol, plunderous stacks is not even 1M.
hopefully
Ill prob be asleep
have you maxed DR in arcade?
Is there a breakdown on IE for DR?
@placid mural do u believe now or still think im saying groundless things, as nate is
such a pain to reequip all constructino obols now e_e
obol presets when
plssss, at least for family if we can pick only 1 D:
IT has all spources but not like max from said sources
dude honestly i dont really care that much, but i do often see you trying to make people feel stupid if they dare to not be "on your level"
is patch up?
its fun when u say something that is very accurate and people call u a liar based on nothing
i never called you a liar
cuz well , if they cant do it no one can
i dont even necessarily disagree with you
like, u asked honestly how u could get to 17DR cuz u thought it was impossible
yeah i did, and at no point did i call you a liar
i even told u all the DR sources u were missing, and u took that as trying to make people feel stupid
just grind more man
cuz i said, any old player endgamer will probably have almost 19DR
Does this mean I have killed 794K with this char or in total?
i nver said I had 19DR
Jizzzzz , just chill u all
that char, deathnote is total
and he asked "any endgamer" and he said 17.5
This char
Only way to check DN is back in W3 I guess uh?
he found a random guy that even said " I THINK 17,5
yep
he didnt even had that DR, he just assumed
he literally did what you asked him to
and he didnt found a true old player
dang way off that eclipse skull still then lol
he found a random guy that threw a rando number
insane DR
even i know that people can get easily over 18 now with new update
ok anyway i dont care enough about this to nickle and dime this conversation
U r the bestttttt
i know i know ๐
soon 4,,5! i think thats either a breakpoint for something or its 5,5
Yeah, it was you, you threw a random number out there ๐
and im very right xD
๐ฟ
I didn't farm for DR tbh still have lots more to do for it
lol no
ok well have fun you two, im out of this convo
cuz i know i with dogshit DR can get around 18,1- 18,2 only by adding 1 card and vman
my vman sucks hes stuck in a infinite skilling loop
I can feel u
God please give me strength this mega monster be healing to dang fast...
Fr this dude stuck on 18 portals
oh well i do not know why i try to explain reason with some people, even after showing proof of what im saying, its still not enough so
I think u took it to far , just let it go
then if i show DR at 18,5 19DR he will still say im cheating, as he did last time so
Anyone know how long the timer is on the mega monsters with rift for healing? like do I have 10-15secs to kill before it heals or ?
we not on the same level guys
i never counted but i always hit it a few times with normal attacks, waited for it to heal, then all in
that will be drop rate at w8
multiplicative DR bubble when
plz tell do you get 3.74M DR, thank
with linear scaling
Ahh. I dont think i have enough dmg rn to kill it lol 275B HP is a lot more then my 5052.1m-11178.1m dmg...
sometimes maxing out strongest active talents for dmg is a good way to cheese DMG requirements
you need something VERY VERY endgame that i do not recommend farming (5 star gmush card)
thats what i did when i was pushing rift 38ish with SB
i had like 6-7B dmg, something like that . maxed talent for more dmg
Yea I've tried fighting it a few times.. can only get it about 25% down with my strongest char which is my bubo.. so figured I need to grind up to more dmg first.
ok brb will double gmush card
Right, I know what's up with SB, his Robbinghood talent multiplies your total DR by the talent. It's effectively useless though as you can't turn that DR into anything
oh yeah
The only way to go ๐
The problem is simply, no one uses SB for DR and when talking about it, it's ignored as is VMan because you can't get value from it
yeah
As for DK, ES, and Bubo, we are talking about their max DR as they are the farmers
how are people killing chaotic kattlecruk in 30 seconds? im at like 1.5b damage on my bubo and it doesnt seem like enough
SB can afk farm well, but DR really doesn't matter in afk farm
it does
but it doesn't
Not enough dmg friend
You can use SB on some bosses that VMan can't kill I guess?
For anyone looking to get to endgame stats like me here's my card set
U can get more rear drops
mmm?
Bro has black magic, 5 same cards!!!!!!
8?
IRL idleon pack boosters when
Me sleepy cant count
Lol
Also cant read
note that 1q is 1m billion so yeah, not really enough
Im relly hoping for eliteclass swape token in the updaite
Plus es shld be kill stuff faster cause better active multi
we gon get 5 seconds time candies again
good for SB forge progression
What is blud on about
*for vman skill lvl up\ 1b on all mobs
Man i got so mad for not being able to use my 2 72hrs time candies on cooking/w5 that i used them on gmush
Lmao
Lollll
Hmmm i see ur not going 4 atart card because u will break the game
i'm waiting lava to nerf gmush card to get it to 5
I get it
i don't want to get too high on nm kattle multikill
still need to farm those amongus obols though :/
Pass
dont double gmush card or you might interger overflow and crash the game
Ohh yah bro make sure u get them sus
Is iit da free vbuck???
Why cant I share pictures to this channel?
need that doubler vbuck chip
u need to speak more i think
and then u get picture unlocked to send amongus twerking gifs
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Ahh, lol
!amongus
is there a worship guide somewhere?
damn i was hoping for it
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cool dude
very good chip
Like towers or smth?
damn i just saved up my bits for kitsune rock but it doesnt seem that good?
good for active play claims or pushing evos
1/3 bits but x4 speed so if you can always claim it, its basically a minimum +33% multi
true just gotta figure out the sweet spot for when to claim
If I buy the one for 2000, will the 25% also change if I am lucky? To 50 or 100%? Already invested 30000 and sick of the 25%
may change, its random
damn atom collider is taking 30 days to build
Does this affect bosses?
It is recommended to always do the lowest % until you get a 100% chance
yup u just need to change in shop options price $ to kidney
Amazing!
1 kidneys is worth 5 USD in lava store btw
free money
"i only need one" - someone trying to get doot
Not buying able to buy pet tokens with gems is borderline criminal
Is there a cap in end game on printer samples or can you reach a billion and beyond
I am 500$ richer than I thought I was
I think you can hit a billion and beyond
Coolio
No cap
Sky is the limit. At least until you hear the police sirens.
brother has more kidneys than i have money
nice collection though
Working hard for Lava. You can't imagine how much you have to run in this business
I'm guessing end game is hourly clicks over atom production usually? Or are there must have atom upgrade breakpoints?
How does croissant work? If my pet has 1k and its fighting, it gets 1k + % from croissant or gets the % directly from the breeding itself?
question, should I use keys on regular kattle to have the best pendant/key rate to make scarfs for everyone or on nightmare to try push wings and trophy
its how active and how involved you want to be, you will start to get a feel for what you want to do, but there are marginal costs to each. bubbles good till they fall off, atoms until expensive, if you afk for more than 3-4 hours between checking probably atoms most the time
Does omni breeding procs affect shiny?
i believe so
regular kattle is the best like you said, also for farming card, but you will get pendants and obols from nightmare as well, so farming all you need on regular will leave you with extra later
got 5 pendant when doing 5star nkattle card
depends how many keys and how much time you have, i think thats just the appeal of nightmare bosses
alright thanks
Ah yes checking in every one to two hours on an idle game
, but thanks for the info I guess I'll see where I'm at since I can't really afford to check in every hour when I start working full shifts and sleeping , even if I could just switch back and forth
ill stop doing nightmare kattle only after i drop 10 wings kkkkkkkkkk
You think you get 10 wings or ruby card first?
ohh i already got ruby from cardifier D:
ah
but it would be a close battle!
U get to your dathe bed first
i want at least 5 wings
cuz then each class has 1 trophy. 1 dk 1 es 1 bb 1 sb 1 vman
is 1240 wis low for a lvl 160 es?
level doesn't mean much on this game honestly to judge progress
ok then is 1240 wis low for ES
1240 wis on the sheet is low yes
Is divinity shared with all characters on an account?
they gain points and xp separately but the points contribute to the same pot to roll on gods
Ah, makes sense
how long before you can use shovel again?
One hour minimum diminishing returns after
it scales, IE shows your next use. hourly is most efficient
is this good for my first use of shovel?
Also welcome to shovel hell
lol
Anything that improves is good, eventually you will only care about your nugget by orders of magnitude
is this just a visual bug with doot? its supposed to be twirl right?
Here I am at 5k ๐ฆ
Awesome
i have this happen sometimes even without doot
but the output should be the same as usual right?
yeah fairly sure
well i guess its a visual bug then
it also always fixes itself pretty quick
U just got doot
Just re sample
So i got to W5 Yesterday and threw everyone on div and idk what it does or anything and havent logged on since, anyone Can explain?
nah usually this things happen and i just dont care but i kind of want to know
Where can you see drop rate on IE?
when lava wakes up i guess
Soon TM

Ackshuably in 6 min
He said if all goes according to plan
Meaning + couple of hours at least cuz of apple
He said 80% thatโs the best rng we ever got from lava


Ayo
Wtf
Pregnant gramblo
Everyone get your negative steam reviews ready to go if he posts the update after 16 hours 
is it ok to just sit on dementia armor until troll?
Yea
yes, people sit on amorak until troll
im so far from nullo salt its depressing
Well we should give some credit 80% is huge i am used to 0.02 percent
Get chizoar helmet too
you can use chizoar as a mid ground
I see you are a gatcha player as well
he has
Define gatch
its already been dropped
?
Gotcha
Ur so accurate after all
did u guys stop at a certain number of streaks for colo tickets each day or just keep it going?
the helm used to use 10 threads
drop the salts 
I rest too expensive
salt hurts my head
I do like 40-50
in the long run the salts are affordable
its only your first set or two thats painful
40-50 streaks?
how dooes that work
High rates up to 0.02% chance
Yah max
gotcha thanks ill keep that in mind
Yah the artifacts are crazy rare
But gaming nugget is worse
is there some insane refinery speed i dont knw aboout
can we see our odds of getting a nugget upgrade on any of the sites?
I know IE has the range
Using elephant helps a lot
What os the rsnge
im so far from that rift
my nugget range is 266-423,000 for instance
any way to target one?
U het more bu upgrading shovel
or pray refinery 
Does the max increase by much
your chance for a big nugget goes up each shobel upgrade
its never good though
that range is heavily weighted to the low end
Yah w5 rng is crazy
get on your knees, i mean yeah pray
essentially, you have a range that you can roll (think its 1-1500 or something i have not idea the actual number) that gets multiplied by your shovel multiplier, heavily weighted for a lower number
So all i can do is upgrade shovel
yup
Unfortunately not ๐ฆ

hello anyone knows how does elephant afk gain works ? is it real 1h for all refinery or printer or a few minutes ?
Real
I think more hour , but not soor
equal to afk time
am i really gonna put all my dudes on elephant and pray for refinery every time 
so if i afk for 2 min it gives only 2min ?
good play before atoms tbh
Eventually you'll pray for other stuff as well
i did full ele for awhile
Thanks !
right, time for another 10 NM kattles
ngl the breeding is fire aalsoo
What are you in a rush for refinery for just curious
just give me all my salts 
hes making troll
Fair enough
click ur cactus first
Troll armor is hard
luckily molten and divine are a piss take
And
simple asa
Asa?
are divine obols stronger than the skilling obols for sparkle slots now?
Should I slap everyone in divinity when I hit w5?
No, cactus, flyeater looking guy then auto
until second or third god yes
Yep
can someone let me hold their doot pls
PATCH OUT YET?
so i can be free from lab div 
Should I get es first?
you can have my 2nd doot when trading comes out
ill kiss you
Iโll take your 3rd doot
only have 2, sorry.
I wonder if he will do anything to stop people lending pets
Yeah Iโm gonna rush es real quick first
DID EVERYONE BUY THEIR BOBJOEPICKLEJACK?
Yep
where is bob joe pickle jack at
W2 shop
isnt that just bob joe pickle
Should all buy another one too if your shop has reset since the last one
Wow
is the update out?
Not yet
WHEN CAN I SPEND MORE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF PETS
my bank account is going up too much. lava needs to put in a new gatch pet round
he said pets won't change for awhile most likely
if you have DOOT x2, it should give you 2x the divinity bonuses
That'd be nice
then was the point of trading ... ?
I assume to grind the anvil mats you use candy with your best archer?
so you can trade for DOOT x3, and get 3x the bonus
Too simple
What about the rock
Do i activate him
how the f. do people increase vman damage
my characters are all sitting in the 10b damage while he's barely pulling 1b
his sheet damage will always be a lot lower than everyoen else
but his actual dps is higher than it appears
Daim bro u should hook me up if ur that excited for another pet
ineed sheet damage to push w5 with him xD
Bro u have tow doots
Daim
thats not that bad of a ratio... my main is 800B, but my vman is only a 20B noob
I lied, i thought it would go up by a lot withcards but nope
he's sitting on 450m
XD
vman sheet damage doesnt take into account the bonus for the multi punch skills i think
I realise that, I was just asking because I needed afk gains
I have to push him all the way to kattles for the challenges
:/
the biggest XD of the century
My Vman replicated my farthest push after my speedruns
Same
just push on your main and use the speed run
Didn't even need to have him afk
what do you mean?
i think it gives your VMAN all the maps that your man has
I actually thought he wasnt supposed to be on fire spirits
but my main has all maps unlocked
Do your speedrun
do i need to have item in storage or in my inventory to get slab count up. or i can trash once i get an item ?
actually do or just start it
I mean do I nee to push a lot
Go as far as you can just for the points
And afterwards he'll mimic the push progress of your farthest unit
Well if u canโt push than u canโt do the challenges that matter
For the trophy
not the trophy.
its kind of glitchy, it mostly counts it when you pick it off the ground. if in doubt check the slab has actually noticed before you trash it. anything that goes straight to inventory without touching ground might not count
i just want to get the kattlecruk armor
one of the challenges is up to 7th character
my 7th is vman
Im on it but i wont go far cause I wasnt setup for it
final challenge is 10 char, so youll need vman either way
it was lvl 10 XD
i dont need the last one my dude
each of them give me a piece of armor recipe
you do need the last one, you jsut dont know it yet
Do you have troll sets ready? or Magma?
note that nightmare boss kill count as 3, but if you do chaotic or normal, you get 2 and 1 respectively, and get locked out from more portal unlocked if you dont kill nightmare
ofc I need it eventually, but I cant do it
so I'll get the ones I can
which means having to push vman up to the boss
whats so hard to nderstand about that
Wheres that speed run list pinned
woot thats awesome thanks @north juniper
im not the one struggling to understand things
sure thing pal
You're welcome now go get many gold twines!
I'm off to mow the yard. Hopefully that update drops soon
my vman is the one lacking
hi
sooo when does the new update come up?

may i know if ES is the best for farming cards?
can you candy in a speed run?
yes
no
how do people actually farm those ruby cards, just leave it overnight?
Spend gems for the upgrade
depend what you farming
I think people set everybody on the task for card farming
'cause by the time you unlock ruby cards, you should be pretty stacked anyway
should is the key word there
for mobs card i usually ruby them at the same time as i 1 bil DN
hmm sounds good, shall set it as a side goal too
rift46 iirc so expected to have everything set up by then
Does anyone else go into the gem shop in W5 for some background music? ๐
i really just barely scrape thru the requirements for ruby cards
so i guess more work for me then
by doing one you close up on the other so the match good together, some mobs i gotta finish with ES but some si SB are enough
for exemple
only 500 missing on stick and nutto sooo
im doing the cards i use for now, so i skipped most of the w1 except for poop and gigafrog, do u think i should just go for w1 first before jumping to the genie
aint gonna lie i used cardifier on genie cause im lazy and you get enough gem per week without any effort to get 2 cardifier
rubying a card you wont use seems like a waste, also if you havnt eclipsed w1 bear in mind that sgonna give you some cards
and some dmg
hmm aite seems like i should work on the basics, thanks!
W2 dungeon
rng the 2 stages
You run it even more until you get the stages that drop those items. Its just rng
gotcha so just keep on goin
Keep going until you finish them or until you realize that W2 dungeon sucks and give up
Whatever one comes first
they're not rare drops in the stage so its just a matter of rnging the stage

does fibre of absence work for samples/speed run?
yes but it's typically a net loss
actually, kpk doesn't effect prints
so it's a pure loss for sampling
When update?!
Just got the update on Android
How many green gems will the new islands cost guys
Proof ? 
Try asking that in gen chat again and you might get an answer
I had a dream about the update
There were silver and red gems
And there was also a 1020$ pack which included doot
I might had 1 beer to many yesterday
Probably Appstore taking its time to verify
how much "chance" is good for you guys to gamble Snail upgrade? i'm at 52% and still scare to mess up :<
You always gamble snail
Do u have the safety net every 5 lvls
yes...but come from 10+ to 5 is not a good thing
Maybe i should save up for snail
If you have 10+ snail then upgrade your atom again so you reset to 10 and not 5
are we actually up on android?
lol, i'm not even think about it, i'm still have hard time to get full 50/50 atom upgrade per day, stuck at 44/50 now
DR keychains please?
thats what i need back in the shop aha
no but w3 ring
sadge
need W2 ring for slab please lava
is there a list of things sailing gold is used for - beyond just purchasing ships/captains/upgrades?
I knew it
I feel like I always spend it all on upgrades and then be like "oh shit i shouldve saved some for x" and might be thinking of bits
new bribes woo
So I didnt collect the bottles immediately because the omar quest said it would increase them and when I went back to him they're just gone
Already missed a day of bottles 
goddddamn
Ooo new bribes?
So... uhh, crystal island or trash island for bribes?
The quest wants to give me a ton of candy that I was gonna use for something so maybe I want crystal island to get more lol
Alright which island should I get first
The fuck is that time candy requirement
like a gold sync, for candies
Trash first 100%
w6 eq fs
W6 released guys ?
nah

it's in prep for w6
useful img from w4 chat
garbage op
this questlines fishing requirement... wtf
tbh the pickle requeirments is whats stopping me
so far the quest has only given me stuff for fishing (rings), so don't feel bad if you don't have the reqs
is gives % bottles though
Should have been buying pickles ๐ฆ
yea the questline isnt entirely necessary
Trash first
but
I am so close to TeeHee 15 I can taste it...
|| it requires lvl 90 fishing at one point ||
After that its most likely shimmer
What should i buy ?
if you want a random guess trash island, and dont prioritise island 4
lvl 90 requires new fish that garbage island doesn't have
is this a new spot on seasalt island?
what do u do exactly on trash island

