lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[nimble yarrow]

ahhhh i gotcha. ty

[fast grail]

Even still getting bonus critters, thats a high trapping bubble

[pearl cedar]

Nvm me even bigger dumb dumb than I thought

Didnt have transfusion on

[fast grail]

LMAOOO

alrighty

[crisp silo]

wallah

[bold quiver]

remember to use that skill exp prayer if u have

[fast grail]

is the multi at like 50x then?

[pearl cedar]

Nah

[bold quiver]

holy cow 115 trapping 😮

[fast grail]

What in tarnation then

[bold quiver]

I wish i had been doing CCD everyday for trapping

[pearl cedar]

Skill issue

[dreamy igloo]

what do you think the chances of lava making magma armor the next set for progression instead of kattlekruk? 😩

[pearl cedar]

It isnt that bad lol have to do CCD like every 5 days

[bold quiver]

kkkkkk im still at the part of CCD everyday

done with worship tho, its 135 (ccd every god knows when)

[fast grail]

My multi was at 30x, but you had like 60% more exp?

So its not just raw multi then

[crisp silo]

I cant wait to do another set of twine farming!

[pearl cedar]

Usually have to ccd every 3 or 4 depending on how much fishing hates me and doesnt give me a double xp proc

[fast grail]

Cant think of anything else aside from critters per trap giving more exp(not eff critters, but from shinies and vial), unless there is something else entirely

[serene solstice]

am I doing something wrong farmed only 1.8k genie cards in a freaking day

[dreamy igloo]

currently doing that and im saving clogs for last haha

[crisp silo]

oh right the clogs

[bold quiver]

oh i see. I had been doing it everyday for Mining, stopped at 112 (gonna wait for godshard. Swapped to Catching, gonna try to get to 100 and fishing later

fishing sucks so much tho damn

[dreamy igloo]

holding off on making kruk armor until next major update

[pearl cedar]

Oh I do 2 level in each skill before CCD, except trapping and worship cause they take a while

[bold quiver]

yeah fair enough

[pearl cedar]

Yeah not sure tbh, I don't think extra critters give more exp

[paper sail]

My labrat duplicate classes all have a set of full Magma. Worst case, I just steal parts of theirs for the mains and fix it later.

[pearl cedar]

Well I can check with removing star sign but that might be different than base critters

[fast grail]

Yeah, guess I need to actually work on honkers vial and look at exp between upgrades

[pearl cedar]

Taking off starsign dropped me down to 49.3m

Either critters or better eff let me play with efficiency a bit

[dreamy igloo]

whats a good lvl for construction on DK? I got mine at lvl 274

[bold quiver]

there isnt

[placid mural]

more

always more

[pearl cedar]

It is critters, put on slushies and trap sparkle obols and no difference in exp

[bold quiver]

there is a good lvl for call me bob tho which is 1k for starters
After 500-550 u can double it 2k

[crisp silo]

dang i guess base critters has an effect

[tidal sky]

mine is 443 and my build is slow as hell

[fast grail]

Alright cool, ty for info, have something to work towards now

[dreamy igloo]

well then I'll just keep uprgading my exp cogs lol

only at 13 mil for build rate

[pearl cedar]

You can work towards this

[tidal sky]

max shiny frog vial if ur good

[pearl cedar]

Pass

[tidal sky]

casual gamer

[dreamy igloo]

WHERE IS BALL PICKLE JAR??

[pearl cedar]

True should have just been activing hunter for the longer than the game been out

[dreamy igloo]

oh wait it doesnt show up on vial mastery thank god

even hampters is gunna be impossible

[pearl cedar]

Everything remaining on mine except oozies is impossible

[dreamy igloo]

dreadlo bar is possible but long grind

[pearl cedar]

I guess salts might be possible in a couple years unless they get a massive buff

[dreamy igloo]

probably not worth it tbh

i got mine setup for infinite production and even then its gunna be long

[versed cypress]

salt 13 vial... red maybe if you have doot and already a super high level and a very high refinery speed

orange is very unlikely

pink salt yeah no way in hell

[dreamy igloo]

yeah im happy with my lvl 4 on pink salt lol

noticed im not getting giant monster spawn chances even with prayer on

oof

[pearl cedar]

just checked on mine, get 1881 dreadlo bars in a claim. That's 250 days straight of 2 minute claims on 3 chars. Or 531,000 claims. Impossible

[versed cypress]

is this with all 16 forge slots in dreadlo ore with the w5 oil???

[fast grail]

Really dont know why lava is reluctant to give us actual forge cap

[versed cypress]

damn ok yeah thats not happening ever

lava seems to have just completely forgoten about the forge

[pearl cedar]

Like i kind of understand not wanting to make it trivial, but impossible isn't fun either

[versed cypress]

lv3 and lv4 forge cards will never be implemented as well as forge giving smithing exp

[dreamy igloo]

Lava be trolling the game will be finished and still not enough dreadlo bars

[vagrant mountain]

likely the reason is that lava is a solo dev who is probably spending all his time on new content

but at the same time damn bro hire someone

[versed cypress]

not really just that reason

lava loses interest in his own ideas after a while

so he stops developing them

[dreamy igloo]

ive noticed that trend

[versed cypress]

the current new shiny things is the island expeditions

which hopefully will be fully developed or at least 90% developed before he loses interest and moves to a new feature completely

[vagrant mountain]

imagine how much better the game would be if lava worked on his shiny new idea and one person just went back and fixed/updated things

[bold quiver]

imagine

[versed cypress]

i think he has given reasons as to why he doesnt hire more ppl but not sure about it

[vagrant mountain]

can only imagine because lava's ego is too big to let go of his solo developer title

[dreamy igloo]

problem is if new content is added to old features usually they can be obtained pretty quick like alchemy or cooking

like when he adds new meals i'll have it unlocked in hours

[fast grail]

So many people offered to do it for free, but eventually they were all ostracized

Like rock

[sonic monolith]

Every time I think I'm doing well, I come here to ask a question and then see things like 'only 13m build rate' and then I realise I am still a little wee baby in this game... -_-

[bold quiver]

always a bigger fish in the ocean

[fast grail]

That like, mid-game for br standards

[vagrant mountain]

"no matter how good you are at something, there is a small asian child who does it better"

[sonic monolith]

There be many, many bigger fish than me it seems 😅

[dreamy igloo]

world 5 chat built different

[bold quiver]

if i show this , then someone will come and show a 10k bubble

[pearl cedar]

My BR is like 760m or something and that's pretty small

[sonic monolith]

Here I am proud of my dmg...

Then I see screens like that...

[dreamy igloo]

whats your question tho?

[fast grail]

The one thing I am proud of is defense, no one has toppled me yet

[sonic monolith]

I don't even remember 🤣

[pearl cedar]

Here you go

[vagrant mountain]

you take 0 dmg from tremor wurms yet?

[sonic monolith]

Fking what?????????

[fast grail]

Even my bubo can do that

[sonic monolith]

Uh

[bold quiver]

what are your bubos drinking dude

[vagrant mountain]

isnt it like 143k def?

[fast grail]

My defense dk has 1m+ defense

[sonic monolith]

SchahoozMe! How!!??

[vagrant mountain]

youre cracked

[pearl cedar]

Lol how much fmj?

[fast grail]

3300ish rn

[pearl cedar]

Nice

[bold quiver]

im more impressed that some people actualy keep leveling fmj and shaq

[sonic monolith]

I just...

[fast grail]

stopped leveling it, decided i shot my account in the foot for long enough, just clicking it like twice or so a day with fruit flies now

[sonic monolith]

I feel very small rn xD

[bold quiver]

have no idea for how long this had been like this

[raven fog]

Ignore it

[bold quiver]

and i remember that i only leveled this above 145 to get out of the way from construction bubble

[raven fog]

Nvm

[pearl cedar]

Just playing tbh, some good amount of hourly clicks but not over the top like some people

[sonic monolith]

Are all your chars like that for dmg?

Or just your agi chars?

Also, is there a reason to get waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more accuracy than you'll ever need in w5 rn?

[pearl cedar]

Well this is meme damage, SBs are highest due to statue buff, but meme damage I think most are in the 50-75 range. Not sure about vman haven't taken them off DR build in awhile

[fast grail]

This was the gear for 1m defense, with divine scarf it would have been much easier

[pearl cedar]

What if you did diabolic?

[fast grail]

Nah, this guy was in full diabolic before w5, even the raw defense from magma was better

[sonic monolith]

And here I was super proud of this 🤣

[pearl cedar]

Might be different now since the diabolic is a multi to def and your base defence probably a lot higher than pre w5

[bold quiver]

my deefense smal

[pearl cedar]

That's not bad though

More than you need for anything

[sonic monolith]

I wanna be able to paste nm kattle though. That is my aim rn.

[pearl cedar]

Oh wait 28b, guess you need like 300b for nm kruk

[sonic monolith]

I can kill nm kattle, but it takes like 11min atm xD

[serene solstice]

ayyyy

[fast grail]

Nah, FMJ just carries hard, very few other multies help much. The rift wings are almost better than amarock since they give 60 defense vs 50 even though amarock gives +50% defense

[pearl cedar]

Oh makes sense +def% is additive with fmj so the extra doesnt make a difference

Like class xp and gt

[fast grail]

Yep

[pearl cedar]

This is my only really remaining goal

[fast grail]

Join the 1m defense club

pump fmj for a month surely it will be useful one day

[pearl cedar]

Gonna keep pushing quick slap until I hit 1q damage

[fast grail]

Working on getting main sampling bubbles to 95% then starting on that, what is that at for you to have 100t?

[graceful bramble]

Why do i have +4% dmg with the third god on my first ES and +40% on my second ES?

First ES is lv1 div, second one is 10+

[pearl cedar]

1551

[fast grail]

Oh, thats not even too insane, might start doing quick slap every other day

[pearl cedar]

Bubble 1s are around 4k

[fast grail]

Like double mine , mine are barely passed 2k

[modern plaza]

beta 2.0 still in! looks like update gonna be rolling thru tmrw

[vagrant mountain]

dont play with my heart

[sonic monolith]

I'm gonna start digging into my captain's smithing stuff. That dmg was enough to convince me to focus him for a while.

[foggy apex]

uh tryna do maestro quest and got 1m+ on all monsters from world 1 2 and 3 but wont give next quest

ight ill just wait a bit

[placid mural]

Hasn't the beta been in for 24 hours now?

[bold quiver]

check deathnote

[twilit goblet]

feels like time for me, anecdotally

[fast grail]

pretty sure its just a timer

[twilit goblet]

damage gate

[frozen prairie]

so

what's a good damage to have to beat n kruk on any character?

[halcyon marten]

can the trapper drone not place the fancy traps?

[crisp silo]

40B on vman, a long fight

[halcyon marten]

rip this is w5 lal

[crisp silo]

ppl have done less

[fast grail]

general rule of thumb for non-painful time is about 100b

[noble hound]

I've been trying for Fury Relic for about 2 weeks now with most boats at 2h and still nada. Starting to lose my soul a bit lmao this rng is killer

[crisp silo]

shld take a lil longer

[noble hound]

I hope not much more. I'm hella capped rn without the lvls lol

[twilit goblet]

SB Is good, easy sources of dmg from talents

oh then yea probably not going to be able to make it

[crisp silo]

so long as you have AOEdmg skills, u will req less dmg

[valid frost]

Can I clarify on how divinity XP works?

Isit a set amt that normal Inc Dec to skill xp doesn't work?

[opaque sun]

like lab exp and construct exp, its a separate thing from “all skills”

Only things that specifically say divinity exp affects it

[valid frost]

Got it ty

[shut parcel]

What damage can voidwalker kill nightmare kruk at?

[fast grail]

Sanely roughly 40b

[crisp silo]

depends on how long u want the fight to be

[fast grail]

thats like a 20 min fight still

[crisp silo]

ppl have done 20b

[shut parcel]

Do you just afk on the boss or micro to kill both sides

[fast grail]

micro

[crisp silo]

you gottta be there

[digital meadow]

I've been trying to unlock some sigils but as it's started taking 250+ hrs (total not counting multiple characters) I was wondering if it's a good idea to use up 4 characters just for that when 1 character is just 1 sigil XP/h I hadn't played in awhile and couldn't remember if there was some upgrade there that would increase that or not because currently id really like to have to bonus to liquid rates or something for context the sigil I'm almost finished with shortly now is metal exterior

[honest spoke]

What’s the best bubble for vman damage? I’ve been working on luck, but damage increase is not much

[vagrant mountain]

this one too i guess but not much

[honest spoke]

Thanks, I’ll try those out

[dreamy igloo]

if you have divine armor that will boost damage aswell

[crisp silo]

guess we gettin the update next weeek huh

[modern plaza]

most likely within 3 days

[fast grail]

Just keep hitting refresh, surely he will stealth release tonight

[noble mesa]

*today
Its just 8 in the morning

[modern plaza]

probably on saturday like he said 😄

[fast grail]

Well its 10pm for lava rn

[noble mesa]

🥲

[crisp silo]

oh dang its still fri for him?

[worn current]

gonna ask here instead cuz its more abt game progress than general, is anyone willing to take a look at my idle efficiency? I feel like my damage is lacking https://nitrosoggy.idleonefficiency.com

[modern plaza]

its so easy to complain tho 😄

[crisp silo]

🎉 it is time to begin the roasting🎉

[zealous niche]

-Fix your boss key income
-There are quite a few easy greenstacks (Ore, Logs) that you haven't gotten. W1 mobs have no greenstacks at all
-Equipment is ok, Player 8 stilll have iron legs though.
-Getting the last alchemy bubbles will jump your damage up
-Some stamps should be able to be easily levelled for you

[granite grove]

if you are bubo GT grinding, farm sandy pots to level liquid speed % stamp, it seems bit underleveled for now

[zealous niche]

🫶 ✨ 🔥

[granite grove]

oh GT bubble lv113, you arent leveling that much, or not doing active plays? if mobile then understandable

[fast grail]

You have a warrior that has nothing sampled at all and is not printing anything, make sure to sample

[granite grove]

also for boss keys, you might want to leave ES intentionally not finished Dog Bone quest for eventual quest item greenstack, also applicable to other quests with quest only drops

or SB/BB if going to farm death note anyways

[worn current]

so I should have bubo active on sandy pots?

[zealous niche]

You'd be better activing W1 with ES initially for more damage

[granite grove]

no, ES is best for mob material farming

Bubo is best on high mob density maps to push alchemy

[worn current]

for greenstacks?

[zealous niche]

Yeah

[granite grove]

greenstack and pushing alch/stamp materials, also could stock up wood circles for biggie hours summon items

and ghosts for king doot summons

[lean niche]

stupid question but which would give more carry capacity? the bugsack stamp or the mason jar?

[granite grove]

but imo do greenstacks later, good to have early but not a priority to work early on

both ig, but bugsack would be stronger just for bug items

[zealous niche]

I'd greenstack W1 then leave it for a bit

[crisp silo]

bugsack caps based on lvls

mason is kinda uncapped

[lean niche]

ya im just curious what gives me more bang for my bug at my lvl

[zealous niche]

Is bugsack capped? Like is it showing up "Stamp only gives X% because of low catching level"

[crisp silo]

nah thats what i mean

its like based on yr catch lvl

cause it makes the increase per lvl less

i wouldnt really call it a cap

[zealous niche]

Yeah, trying to help Rockerman gague which to level

[crisp silo]

if the stamp shows what AJ said, then mason is prob better

cause it also lvls up all carry cap

[zealous niche]

and if not, bugsack is probably better

[tough pelican]

im working on my slab, is there anyway to get the lower dungeon weapons after you spent money upgrading past them?

[zealous niche]

Just nab a higher one and slab will fill in everything lower than that

Also, the dungeon shop/mob drops will only give you weapons that are equal or higher tier than the one you have

so strategy is to just ignore the weapon stats, and if you come across a weapon higher tier than your current one, equip that, even if it's worse

same goes for equipment rarity

[tough pelican]

ah i think there's an issue with IE it shows im missing the first gloves but the slab does show them as found.

[raven fog]

Where should i farm in dk i am done with pens and statues

[zealous niche]

perhaps greenstack with ES then?

[raven fog]

And i just worked on him i want to put him to use

[zealous niche]

put DK in highest world 5 map you have to level?

all depends on your overall goal

[raven fog]

Hmm maybe some colo farming for breeding

[zealous niche]

that works

[uncut condor]

Any recommendations on who to push w5 with? Bubo is miles ahead of everyone else but anyone should be fine. Been in lab/divinity forever a couple weeks lol

[raven fog]

Bubbo is best for ur case than

Bubbo is already great at portal pushing

[zealous niche]

whoever has good damage or needs to level

They all need to reach boss eventually for tasks

[uncut condor]

[raven fog]

Am stuck at nightmare on 10 characters task

I got the wing tho

Waiting for the trophy

[zealous niche]

Got the wing before you got the quest you need to get the wing drop for? RIP

hope it counts retroactively

[raven fog]

Nah

Dw

I did the quest first

Is the wing hard to get ?

Troll and all the pther bosses feel harder

Ir i just got lucky

[zealous niche]

1 in 3,334

I haven't gotten a single wing without 💳

platnium amarok, and gold other bosses

no wings

Troll and kruk are a bit easier since you can farm keys in mass

[raven fog]

Oh i have only gotted kruk from f2p

And amarok

[zealous niche]

You can only get boss wings from f2p

[raven fog]

I can fsrm all

With colo

[zealous niche]

All the wings I have are gem ones

no boss ones yet..

[raven fog]

Daim

I bought the random wing thing few days ago

I got amarok

I wanted to cry

😂

[zealous niche]

Fair

3 days per attempt at minimum, 1 in 1000 DR

1 per year with a good DR char

[paper sail]

All boss keys can be farmed decently quickly these days

[raven fog]

Yap do colo

[zealous niche]

How do you get W1-3?

[crisp silo]

colo

[raven fog]

Colo

[zealous niche]

Like, W1 colo for W1 keys?

[paper sail]

Have you heard? Colo miniboss drop keys for the world boss.

[zealous niche]

been a while since I touched them

[raven fog]

Mhmm

U get keys

And some goöd food

[raven fog]

Same

[zealous niche]

I've been just accumulating colo and boss keys from daily claims

[raven fog]

But i remembered them when i thought about farming bosses

[worn current]

is daily claims only way to get colo tickets?

[raven fog]

U get tickets from po

W4 po

[worn current]

i have 186 pens maybe i should try and get some tickets

[paper sail]

Specifically, you want to use a DK decked out in Drop Rate to farm the Colosseum. Their Orb applies to the miniboss at the end, as well as the Chests, which will just explode with gems, candies, and boss keys

[worn current]

just been sitting on them for atom thing

[zealous niche]

Yeah, haven't felt up to the fiddliness of farming colo tickets yet

oooh! good tip

[paper sail]

You can pretty easily get 100+ keys in a single run with halfway decent DR. Feels almost like cheating

[worn current]

how do i reset post office streak again? i destroy shield and nothign

[paper sail]

Still have to wait for the day to change after shield gone and order still active before the streak will reset

[zealous niche]

That's the thing I've been missing

Didn't want to go through colo for a few keys per run yet

thought other account progress was worth more than spending half an hour to get a single amarok attempt

if it's 3-4 attempts per run though, could be worth trying for wings

[paper sail]

With max Orb duration at skill level 267, I can run w1 Colo 3 times per Orb cast with about 10-15 seconds of downtime at the end.

[zealous niche]

how do you keep it up over multiple runs?

[paper sail]

You won't visually see the orb on the map, but if the buff still shows in the top right, you're getting the bonus. It does reset to 0 each time you restart.

[zealous niche]

Oh

I thought the statue being gone means buff is gone too

[paper sail]

I did for a long time as well lol

I spent so long waiting for a full orb duration to expire each colo

[worn current]

i doubt 5.0 is that high of a drop rate, but just did colo with DK and got 12 w4 keys

[tacit tulip]

A lot of people learning things right now lmao

[serene forum]

Obol literally disappeared when i swaped it. I had a purple star mining obol and switched it for a purple drop rate on family tab. I switched it by dragging the dr obol directly on the mining one and the mining obol literally disappeared

[paper sail]

Join the club, partner. Now you know!

[zealous niche]

in small batches to prevent RSI

[paper sail]

I wish. I'm nearing 40k pens

[zealous niche]

I'm doing 50-100 per day as part of my daily checks

[zealous niche]

also have leveled pen atom high so it uses pens even though it's ineffecient

[paper sail]

The 20 per day from Atom is a cruel joke. Needs to be 200, at least.

[lean niche]

sry was doing dungeon in wow my bugsack is lvl 192 and mason is 112 catching lvl 127 tryin to push to multi 210 can carry 380 mil motes atm trying to see whats more bang for my buck

[zealous niche]

As we said, if bugsack isn't capped, that's better, otherwise mason jar

[serene forum]

Needs to be a convert all after 5k pens

[paper sail]

I could finish my myriad if I could use all my pens instantly lol

[lean niche]

my catching levels will never get to cap bugsack sooo

[zealous niche]

so is bugsack capped or not?

[lean niche]

i get 192% total due to lvl but only get 121% due to level

[zealous niche]

Then, there's your answer. Leveling bugsack more does not do anything

Mason jar therefore will help

[lean niche]

k im a throw this info in if this does anything

[zealous niche]

No other info needed, your bonus is limited due to level

[lean niche]

for every catching level i get i gain 2.4 mil total capacity thats for 80 slots, and by leveling the bugsack stamp i gain 4.8 mil total capactiy

[zealous niche]

Yeah, so until you're getting the full 192% with a high enough level, adding any more levels does nothing

levels to bugsack*

[paper sail]

That's not quite true. Leveling the stamp still increases what you receive, even when capped. It is just smol

[zealous niche]

Leveling bugsack more doesn't change that you are over the max bonus allowed by catching level

Thought it was a hardcap based on level..

[hardy bloom]

woa trione also has for luck, why didnt they put at tritwo i only unlocked tritwo and trithree, but i dont have notes for trithree yet

[lean niche]

what im trying to figure out been going on this journey last few weeks

[paper sail]

My understanding is that you get a % of the stamp value if underleveled. I've absolutely watched the value displayed go up on the "you're capped and only get X" display while levelling the stamp

[zealous niche]

Huh. well that changes how I should approach stamp then

[deft grail]

same, I actually just learned that too lol

[lean niche]

thats what i thought, my concern now is im at the point where i need more hermits then i can carry. still takes 4 days to level bugsack same with mason jar tho

just didnt know which would give me more

[paper sail]

I'm almost to 10k stamp level, just about everything I level tells me I am capped lol

[worn current]

Is no more praying worth it?

[tacit tulip]

this was my experience too. level 40 catching with level 80 stamp? Get a portion of the stamp

level the stamp up in this situation? The portion I get increases, even if it's small

[zealous niche]

I've just been leveling stamps to be just capped on my vman and calling them done unless I leveled vman more

[paper sail]

Rip. You've got some stamp upgrading to do!

[zealous niche]

Yeah.. 🫠

[placid mural]

I wonder if the 4 new fish will come with any new vials

[zealous niche]

What new fish

[lean niche]

the jumbo shrimp

[placid mural]

There are 4 new fish either in this update or the next

He teased it already

[zealous niche]

oooh, I didn't know what was being teased with that one

[lean niche]

maybe be able to lvl fishing now

[zealous niche]

I was part of the confused pepe react

[placid mural]

At least i'm about ninety percent sure that's what that means

[paper sail]

No More Praying: The concept is that you don't wear any prayers at all in exchange for receiving 1/5th the benefit of all prayers while being free of the curses. Maybe one day this will be useful, but for right now it is BAD IN EVERY SINGLE CASE. The issue specifically is with the Royal Sampler prayer. It is currently impossible to reach the 90% max 3D Printer Sample Rate without the prayer. The best you can do would be about 75% - This means your samples go down by about 25%. 😡 That's a huge decrease, this thing sucks! The second issue is with Giants - The prayer lists spawning Giants as both the Buff and Curse. Spaghetti code means no Giants can spawn now.

[zealous niche]

RIP my vman being stuck on fishing for the last while

[lean niche]

how much xp u get atm on ur vman fishing?

[placid mural]

There is space before the worm vial for a couple more vials

[granite grove]

just if no more praying isnt disabled if giant mob prayer is equipped, at least it makes it more justified on using that effect + giants

[worn current]

i see i see, i think i should probably make better use of royal sampler in this case

[sharp vine]

At 87 fishing and with proper prayer/chip/talent set up my Vman is getting like 1.8mil an hour but my overall account kinda bad in the Skilling dept compared to most

[paper sail]

~5m displayed in the AFK screen

[lean niche]

hmm

why i get almost 16m?

[zealous niche]

cries in 3M

[paper sail]

Absolutely. Royal Sampler is currently the most important prayer in the game until we can reach 90% without it. Belongs on all 10 characters.

[paper sail]

Are you talking actual exp shown after a candy, or what shows on the AFK screen?

[lean niche]

afk screen

ill look again

[paper sail]

Not sure then. I haven't been back fishing for a little while. Maybe it is better now.

[lean niche]

i havent done it for a long while either but with that eclipse boost to ur skill xp seems like u get way more xp

[paper sail]

The last screenshot of mine I see is from May lol. I'll have to remember to peek in the morning.

[lean niche]

18.7m with all the fishing food on

[paper sail]

Eclipse boosting AFK gains and efficiency both helped a lot

[zealous niche]

Then what am I doing wrong to get only 3M with boost food and eclipse 😦

[paper sail]

Share your fishing info?

[lean niche]

take eff prayer off and put the xp one on?

[paper sail]

I'm guessing missing Maestro Infusion, Balance of Proficiency prayer

[zealous niche]

had infusion, wrong prayer though

[lean niche]

without the fish spd food can only get 5.3m

[zealous niche]

that gave 10% more to 3.3M

I have slurping herms

[lean niche]

the candy cane and the pearl both give 275% for me

scratch that the cane is 229

[worn current]

will the xp loss really matter or will the rest of the game just offset it?

[paper sail]

Food effect % is big for skilling foods

[zealous niche]

Don't have any of those left

[lean niche]

i need to lvl that stamp more

[zealous niche]

https://spark.idleonefficiency.com/

How to get my fish exp up is the goal of today's roasting session

[paper sail]

Nah, the exp loss is so so tiny. It is simply minus 0.3 to 0.6 against the 15-45 you can get.

[lean niche]

gonna hcange the cards 😛

[fast grail]

vman?

[zealous niche]

yeah

[worn current]

whats the 15-45 from? sorry im asking so many questions

[zealous niche]

for now, but others need to level fishing to 100 too

[lean niche]

i got the acorn helm on atm to

just for 15% xp

got trophy doubler that gives a boost to

[paper sail]

Grind Time bubble for combat exp mostly. Skill exp is all over the place in terms of sources 😦 Hard to say

[fast grail]

Can use Acorn hat instead

[lean niche]

doot?

[zealous niche]

Send a platic card code that's still magic, mine isn't magic enough

[zealous niche]

Little bonus there, but I don't know how I'm 1/5 of what you guys were saying

acorn doesn't account for that

[fast grail]

What is your afk gain?

and multi and time per catch?

[paper sail]

First jumping at me is wrong star signs, lots of missing AFK gains there, cards, gear

No Zerg Rush prayer

[zealous niche]

I don't have starsign doubler, those are the only valid ones that are above my inf ones

ooh, zerg rush would help though

what's up with cards and gear besides acorn hat

[paper sail]

Amarok, Bunny for afk

[zealous niche]

oh damn, it's on my card farming from my bosses last night

[paper sail]

Angel Wings probably beats out the Vine

[worn current]

is there any guides on what I should be sampling or a general rule of thumb, im going to resample with royal sampler and make sure I do worthwhile items

[lean niche]

idk i like the vine wings

[zealous niche]

AFK gains are 235%

with proper card preset I'm up to 4.6M exp/hr

[lean niche]

thats pretty good

i got 345% afk

[fast grail]

Using transfusion?

[paper sail]

My last samples were 330 - 360% afk if Snake aligned

[zealous niche]

Amarok/bunny doubled for afk gains, biggie, n.chiz, c.efaunt, c.troll, tremor, stilted seeker

[paper sail]

Lab skill AFK chip

[dapper prism]

Afk keychain

[zealous niche]

I have iOS keychains for afk gains

[dapper prism]

Squeeze it allllllll out
https://i.imgur.com/NwdavBr.png

[paper sail]

Some Kruk sparkles in personal and family slots while claiming 😄

[dapper prism]

Oh didnt have those yet 😦

[zealous niche]

chip pushed to just under 5M

kruk sparkles are all equipped

[fast grail]

Idk how others get so high in afk into screen actually, i have a decent multi at 31.8x and only barely above 6m

[paper sail]

Getting the Divine scarf and a Scarf Doubler would be big gains

[dapper prism]

Different cards different skills 🤷

[zealous niche]

I have exp multi of 28 atm

[fast grail]

thats just roughly put together, not full optimized

[pearl cedar]

Do you use boost food?

[dapper prism]

Vman? with vman talent on?

[fast grail]

Im dumb, was not using correct cards at all

or correct preset

[paper sail]

Y'all have fun fishing. I'm going back go bed lol

[zealous niche]

night

[lean niche]

lol gettign close to that time

[worn current]

which stones should i use for the new axe? send it or play it safe

[dapper prism]

If its your one and only kinda thing, w5 stones as kruk is a gamble.

[zealous niche]

can you remake it if it rolls bad?

[worn current]

not for a couple days, need more green salt

[zealous niche]

probably play it safe then

[dapper prism]

Not worth it then

Kruk stones are a gamble, so more of a "i dont care if i mess up as ill just instantly craft a new one"

[worn current]

cooool, resampling with royal took oak logs from 500k to 2mil

[dapper prism]

My gaming is broken... anyone want to take over...?
Had 13 chems, fell down to around 8, now im back up on 17?!
https://i.imgur.com/HjoMkud.png

Chems are the best/worst thing...

[noble mesa]

Just give them to meeee

[fast grail]

prob about best ill get

[noble mesa]

Stack on them for ever

[hardy bloom]

wait i thought max stack is 1050m

you can still merge them?

[pearl cedar]

Guess no boost food?

[dapper prism]

That seems buggy?

[fast grail]

Only normal boost food

[pearl cedar]

Prob just hasnt procced yet

[pearl cedar]

Ah I get 23m but use all 3

[hardy bloom]

i refreshed and this happened

[noble mesa]

No void ore?

[hardy bloom]

is this for real?

[fast grail]

idk how good this % is compared to others

[hardy bloom]

yeah i used em all up on creating bars, im still printing coppers for now

[lean niche]

same as me atm but i have the 2 other boost foods

[hardy bloom]

so that i can have more percent at my miner skill

[dapper prism]

Why woodcutting buff food while fishing?

[hardy bloom]

but wheres the other stack

[noble mesa]

At leest gstack the ores

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/BmNkNVo.png

[pearl cedar]

You have to put a bigger stack there cause refinery will eat it

[fast grail]

Just came from w5 tree card farming

more eff doesnt give more exp does it?

[dapper prism]

Max out Skill Gather speed at 62, and all afk gain/away gain or XP gains

[fast grail]

This is with all boost food, this guy is missing lots of the big afk gear tho

[pearl cedar]

He fish though there is no max speed

[dapper prism]

Thought they were all at 62?

[fast grail]

Fishing and catching dont have that max

[hardy bloom]

that quick? thats 527m excess ores tho

[dapper prism]

Oh nice

[hardy bloom]

now its gone when i refreshed

[pearl cedar]

Oh it doesnt create a new stack

You have to manually put ores in the empty slot

Your excess ores are now atoms

[hardy bloom]

it was two stacks, and for some reason i thought abt merging them at one stack

[noble mesa]

Yep

I have 10 stack of 1050m

U can do it to

[dapper prism]

so much storage space

[hardy bloom]

yeah i saw your pic a while ago and was trying to imitate it

[dapper prism]

You know the effy per power of 10 doesnt have breakpoints?

You could have 999m and its basically the same as 1000m

[noble mesa]

From 1b to 10b

[hardy bloom]

its just frustrating losing 500m+ stacks without being able to take advantage of it

[dapper prism]

Even then, like being 9999m would be the same as 10b

It says power of 10, but it doesnt calculate the stuff like that

Same as tab 4 taent 7, KPK "per 1k agi"

[pearl cedar]

It calculates on log10

[modern plaza]

well yeah it logs it yes

[noble mesa]

So u can do 8/9 stack ,its the same

[noble mesa]

Log10?

[pearl cedar]

Peeps clearly never learned min max

30 stacks for sampling

[modern plaza]

log is domain based on power of the base

[hardy bloom]

oooh

so i lost 500m copper right

it converted to atoms :< so it still converts even tho collider is off

[dapper prism]

collider states it converts anything above 1050m

My collider is always off, so i can get everything to 1050m stacks and never worry about anything really

[hardy bloom]

oh well, even though i was saving copper for 5 stacks

at least i benefitted from it

[dapper prism]

gotta check IT to see when atom collider hits i guess

[lean niche]

so i can turn collider when im in bed and not miss hourly clicks ?

off*

you saying u stack multiple item to 1050m right with collider off?

[dapper prism]

Not multiple of the same

[versed cypress]

to make multiple stacks you have to create the stacks individualy on your storage and set the collider to whatever ammount you want

[dapper prism]

So every type of item easily hits 1050m over time, like there's no real purpose to have atom collider on and set to stuff like 25m unless youre very early game and want a few quick atoms

Not sure how it works with same item stacks

[lean niche]

im just thinking of when i sleep i cant hourly click or at work

[versed cypress]

colider is automatic

it just converts any excess items into atoms automaticaly

[dapper prism]

Yeh but you cant fill more than 1 slot of a specific item with 3D print automatically

[lean niche]

bummer

hmm what to farm tonight keep doing kruk keys or shards for mason i want that multi 210

[timber summit]

How do you increase liquid gains by allot?

[dapper prism]

Few things, like vial, stamp, sigil, salt lick and then mainly assigning characters to the liquid cauldron and leveling up The cauldrons regen rate itself.

[timber summit]

Thank you

[dapper prism]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=liquid

[placid mural]

placing bets on a new vial with the new fish?

[lean niche]

what do we need from vials that missing

[dapper prism]

Idk but looks like we will get the unobtainable stamps, at least some of them. So bet it's shiny critter, worship, souls, worship rate, etc? unless fully new ones are added that arnt on the list of unobtainables

[lean niche]

more atom uses per day cough

[dapper prism]

Something for sigil rate hopefully, way overdue

[placid mural]

i would definitely like to get the unobtainables, but i might be more excited about new stamps

[dapper prism]

Even with all gem unlocks eldritch artifacts and all that crap for maxed sigil rate. It'll take you months to unlock some of those later sigils that are damn terrible "boost lab XP, or kitchen upgrade cost" by the time you get those sigils you're already maxed in all that stuff...

Like the last sigil for div xp gain. people will be level 150 div before they get that sigil xD

Sigils just too damn slow

[placid mural]

it would be nice to have a sigil speed stamp

[lean niche]

maybe kattle divinity will give sigil speed someday

[dapper prism]

Or allow CC to affect sigil speed, and then maybe adjust sigil time.

[placid mural]

sigils would have to take a loooot longer if CC affected it

[granite grove]

just add 10% multi to reduce it, and possibly dimnishing return formula to further limit

[placid mural]

or have CC affect sigils at 1% the same rate it affects brewing

[granite grove]

even 1% could do

[tacit tulip]

Hey guys, update will be today probably

I'm away from home until tomorrow so it'll 100% come out while I'm not here 🥲

[dapper prism]

Thank you for the update 🙂

[placid mural]

we appreciate your sacrifice

[tacit tulip]

Assuming it's an afk resource for the island unlocks I'll ask my partner to set up my guys

She plays too so it's not like it's rocket science

[dapper prism]

Its also a good thing to not be around, that way when you get back all the guinea pigs will have explored the different islands for you 😄

[gritty sierra]

Rookie question... my construction speed is 11m on my DK... but 5.5 on my other characters... did that mean I have to active DK to get that build speed?

[granite grove]

maybe let players experiment and unlock 1 base damage islands first, while ppl will discover that the other island makes CC affect sigil at 100% rate

[placid mural]

lava just posted

looks like it will be up by the time i wake up maybe?

[tacit tulip]

The second bubble for each class works differently than you'd expect

It reads like a class gets a bonus to their class bubbles but that's not quite right

They instead get the bonus while your active character is that class.

So, your orange bubbles are buffed while on your DK, and there's an orange bubble for build speed

Ergo, you get more when on your DK 🙂

[dapper prism]

Side note, its also the reason you upgrade bubble based on class/color, like orange bubbles upgraded by a warri.
Since Bubble 2 affects bubble 15 (cost reduction) and 17, and 17 affects 15. Making bubbles a lot cheaper on the proper class due to bubble 2 (being based on class)

In the construction case its bubble 2 affecting bubble 13, carpenter.

But also, DK talent for br speed (tab 3, talent 12) is only when active afaik too, so it's both things

[tacit tulip]

It's like he read my message about not being here

On a train for the next...3 hours zzzs

[dapper prism]

Long trip, hope you've got some entertainment! 🙂

[tacit tulip]

It's still like 8am here so once I'm on the next train I'll just have a nap

[frigid acorn]

its always ios

[crisp silo]

Huh i guess update is today then

Neat

[zealous niche]

Today-ish

[fast grail]

Today in lava-time

[upbeat trout]

got vman today, how does speedrun works ?

[solid haven]

I forgot to recruit best captain i have ever seen :') (32 loot, 30 speed)

anyone of you ever got a captain with more than 40 total sailing yet?

I personally have not

[crisp silo]

What is 40 total sailing?

Like loot/speed combine?

[solid haven]

sorry, ment speed*

as in, sailing speed xD

[crisp silo]

Dang 40 sail speed

That would be nice

[solid haven]

max max would be 80 i guess (according to wiki)

[willow drum]

those are my best 2

oh i have one that's 27/20 speed

[fast grail]

Best speed one i've gotten
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1068848519043092521/Screenshot_89.png

[solid haven]

beat tradge by 1 xD

[willow drum]

good captains are hard to come by

[crisp silo]

This boy aint bad

Well prob my best

[fast grail]

best loot ones i got

[crisp silo]

My best balanced

[willow drum]

anyone got a lvl 17/18 captain or higher?

[fast grail]

best i got is 15

[willow drum]

i got 1 53% through 16

[wind umbra]

got 17

[solid haven]

where do you guys get this info btw? IE doesn't show commander picture for me

[glad hamlet]

toolbox

[solid haven]

?

[glad hamlet]

idleontoolbox

[willow drum]

idleontoolbox.com / idleonefficiency.com

[solid haven]

oh, so competitive site?

[willow drum]

it pulls data from idleon through api and puts it in a easier place to look over everything without actively doing it in game

[runic girder]

Doubt theyre really competing

But ie has some things it doesnt and vice versa

[willow drum]

IE isn't getting updates anymore afaik since companion update.

[glad hamlet]

All I heard was the removal of IE leaderboards thought updates would still continue

If so I guess I should learn how to navigate toolbox better

[solid haven]

probably when something meaningful is added, like new skills or so

[runic girder]

It still updated recently with it showing all bubbled active on sheepie

[versed cypress]

yeah IE is still being updated, the leaderboards are the only thing removed cause Sludger didnt wanted to include compaion pets for all to see cause they didnt wanted to show ppl spending habits

[tacit tulip]

Iirc pets are completely disabled in public profiles too

[versed cypress]

so you wont ever see what compaion pets someone has?

[runic girder]

Except sheepie

[versed cypress]

i see well thats good

[willow drum]

if you're not using toolbox to optimize ladles you're losing out

[tacit tulip]

IE has time order for cooking too

[dreamy merlin]

i aint missing out on shit if it doesnt even know my actual cooking speed

[tacit tulip]

Until you get to like, 100 ladles a meal it's hell to kick through

[tacit tulip]

Why would it not know your cooking speed?

[willow drum]

Yeah I don't get that. the ladle usage has been spot on for me

[dreamy merlin]

it doesnt know how my lab works for some reason,idk if it doesnt know what arctis is or smth

[willow drum]

theirs a selection to add the rhinestone.

[dreamy merlin]

this is what it says for lab, dont mind the jewels

when realisticaly i have every node and jewel that i have

[willow drum]

works fine for me

[dreamy merlin]

i wonder why its glitched for me hmmm

[willow drum]

do you have doot?

[tacit tulip]

All 10 in lab? Maybe doot shenanigans

[willow drum]

doot breaks it because no one is "linked"

[tacit tulip]

Best way to work around it is to just manually link to arctis I think

[dreamy merlin]

i only bought autoloot,i dont have doot

ive got 7 free chances btw

[dapper prism]

free chances stack?

[glad hamlet]

I wish

[dreamy merlin]

no i mean i have tried 7 times

[zealous niche]

Free chances are also a week from last claim, not weekly reset

[dreamy merlin]

I hope i dont get another stupid useless duplicate bean slime or frog this week

or sand pot

[runic girder]

Sheepie

[dreamy merlin]

please,thats all i want,a sheep

[runic girder]

No doot?

[dreamy merlin]

or better as well i wouldnt be complaining

but at least a sheepie

[runic girder]

Sheepie isnt even that rare

[granite grove]

doot is nice but would need copium for that luck

[dapper prism]

I want/need Ram for ez banking

[runic girder]

Ram, afk for 3 year, profit

[near goblet]

pray to not crash after that 3 years

[dreamy merlin]

i know but the game hates me

[runic girder]

Might be an issue

Atleast ill have gotten my 1b gmush kills

And probably a few billion more

I would only have 45b gmush kills if i afk 3 years

[dreamy merlin]

once i get fury for 200 tent would it make sense to farm bubo 24/7

[near goblet]

3 years later we weill probably have more stuff, and I dont think 1b kills gonna be any relevant

[dreamy merlin]

not getting it for a while,but when i do

[runic girder]

Alchemy sky rocket boost

[dreamy spruce]

not too useful after maxing your bubbles with your current mats, and overnight is pretty useless since you'll fill liquid up in ~2 cc's

[runic girder]

Lab bonus helps

[dreamy spruce]

true

[dreamy merlin]

I actually would have a purpose for it

[fallow pawn]

still caps too fast even with 12k+ Cap

[runic girder]

Not when you just get it

[wind umbra]

is there a way of tracking how much kc you have of rift monster for super chow?

[runic girder]

Ie

[wind umbra]

doesnt show for me

[runic girder]

Check your barb character for zow/chow

[dreamy spruce]

my cap was ~2k with lab bonus when I got 200 tenteye

[wind umbra]

which one is rift monster

[fallow pawn]

I did it by checking the Super Chow count, dont think there is an exact kill counter

none of them

[dapper prism]

Usually it has an icon, so none of them or one of the 0s and icon is bugged?

[wind umbra]

kk so i just gotta check counter and wait until it goes up by one

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/ZRfmfDl.png

Looks like that from the above pic

[wind umbra]

yeah i dont have that

[fallow pawn]

it doesnt count above chow

[dapper prism]

If you've ever killed anything in rift, you should not have anything at 0

[dreamy merlin]

then you already did it

[dapper prism]

It did for me

oh use toolbox

toolbox more reliable on stuff like that

[fallow pawn]

it didnt for me 2 weeks ago, rift Mobs didnt Show up at All after chow for Super chow

[dreamy merlin]

toolbox has superchows,use it

[dapper prism]

As it shows superchows

[wind umbra]

i did a quick scan on toolbox and couldnt find where to find it

[dapper prism]

yeh for ie, do it

[wind umbra]

ooh

vm

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/qQ6SmgE.png

[wind umbra]

nvm im stupid

thanks

[fallow pawn]

I guess I should check out toolbox

[wind umbra]

damn lol

[dapper prism]

toolbox does a lot of things very well

[wind umbra]

knew i was close

[fallow pawn]

bit late for Super chow though im already at 69

[thorn wraith]

Just a stupid question...the "Moai Head" artifact works for all worlds? or per world on all maps? i'm a bit confused 😄

[weary hinge]

all worlds

[glad hamlet]

Works anywhere for the shrine effect just cant level them up unless you are in the world they are placed

[weary hinge]

but levelling is world-specific on shrine placement

[raven fog]

This update must be big

Finally fish levels

[thorn wraith]

Okay! Thanks! now i can place them all to the lab 😄

[dapper prism]

Mhm, bet no fishing levels

[raven fog]

What do u mean

No fishing island

[dapper prism]

Maybe 1 island, dedicated to fishing xD

[raven fog]

Seill good

Still

[spring jasper]

Do crystal monsters become easier to hit over time?

[raven fog]

Am tired of 5 mil fishing xp

[dapper prism]

Well yeh.. more dmg = easier to kill them

[raven fog]

Easier to hit u mean more chances

?

[spring jasper]

no i mean 0 second spawn = nearly unhitable and 300 seconds after spawn = everything hits

[raven fog]

shrines are passive the rest u have tp work on

[weary hinge]

crystal spawn or the stats? the stats will always remain the same formula

[spring jasper]

like the daily 5 crystal things spawned at once

[dapper prism]

crystals are just 2.5x more stats than the mobs of that map. Nothing else.

[spring jasper]

and when i hit it, everything missed for 20 seconds

[wind umbra]

yeah crystal mobs become weaker if they stay alive for too long

[spring jasper]

than i went afk healing on the side afterwards EVERYTHING hits

[dapper prism]

Then your accuracy is just trash?

[weary hinge]

its because of the bonus respawn per reset

[raven fog]

No

[wind umbra]

pretty sure they do

[spring jasper]

from my experience they do as well

[raven fog]

Ur the pro

[spring jasper]

i came here to confirm it or not

[raven fog]

How

Do u come up with this 😂😂😂

One king doot i say they don’t

[weary hinge]

i wish i can nag that doot brother lol

[near goblet]

crystal stats decay over time (rewards too)

[dapper prism]

Crystals are simply 15x hp, 30x xp, 2.5x more accuracy needed and deal 2.5x more dmg (also drop i believe 30x coins)

[spring jasper]

ahhh so it is 3 people now saying this

[wind umbra]

so where my king doot then?

[raven fog]

Honestly i got my first salary few days ago and i am tempted

[dapper prism]

You're just misleading RNG on your bad accuracy or something onto it

[weary hinge]

save it for later. you sure have better things to prioritize

[raven fog]

Yah

[spring jasper]

i mean the difference between hitting under 5% of hits to nearly 100% in the span of 5 minutes feels VERY Much not RNG

othertwise i really gott play lotto

[weary hinge]

crystals are not like the fart mobs bro.

[raven fog]

Fart mobs

[dreamy merlin]

Idk if its intended but crystals do entirely stop hitting me after a bit

So they do get weaker

[near goblet]

How does 'bad rng' explain crystals dealing less damage overtime??

[warm merlin]

Does anyone know if there is any point to linking if you have king doot?

[thorn wraith]

i can agree...they don't hit after a while and...i don't miss anymore after a while

[near goblet]

you still need to link purrmep once im pretty sure

[dapper prism]

That'd still be a big idfference of just losing aggro or aggro reset over time vs diminishing stats. Idk never observed it and the few times i either died and rezz'd after like 8mins they still seemed the same

[near goblet]

since when do idleon eemies have aggro

[spring jasper]

if you are Barbarian you get aggro

[dapper prism]

A mechanic where they "stop attacking" would be considered aggro imo

[dreamy merlin]

I'm not saying they stay away I mean I touch them and I don't get hit

[spring jasper]

i think they don't stop attacking, their stats just degrade so much they do 0 damage to you

[warm beacon]

Yeah that’s the crystal timer, they expire after 90 seconds which means they don’t deal damage but you won’y get rewards either

[dreamy merlin]

So we were correct

[dapper prism]

Then does a rezz reset it?

[wind umbra]

how to take gif? lol

[sonic radish]

245 is max book level right?

[dapper prism]

Use shareX or other software

[wind umbra]

i just waited until crystal mob does no damage to me

[dapper prism]

Then does a ressurect reset it? since i fully recall rezzing after several minutes and near insta dying from them

[glad hamlet]

Does anyone know if I leave my current guild today will it void my next weekly guild boxes if I join a new guild?

[wind umbra]

took a while but should be proof that crystal mobs become weaker over time

[warm beacon]

No clue, I haven’t died since the first time I made it to the frog map

[versed cypress]

its not that they get weaker over time

[crisp silo]

their values just straight up drop after a certain time

not lineraly decreas iirc

[versed cypress]

a crystal mob that has stayed on screen after a cloud save happens looses all its properties and turns into the equivalent of ac rystal mob that comes from the gmush map

[wind umbra]

oh is that what happens? i always thought it was a pity timer so u dont have to reset map or something lol

[spring jasper]

interesting, the result is the same i assume tho

[versed cypress]

nop its no pity timmer for whatever reason if a crystal mob is alive when the game cloud saves it just loses all its stats and turns into a crystal mob wiht the stats and yeild of a gmush crystal mob

[wind umbra]

sp where king doot at?

[versed cypress]

it loses all its exp and coin drop

but it still retains its normal drops

[spring jasper]

that's still way better than getting killed by them

[versed cypress]

also a downgraded crystal mob that gets duplicated by choco will still be a downgraded crystal mob

[spring jasper]

choco?

[versed cypress]

choco chip

[crisp silo]

wait what

[wind umbra]

yup

[crisp silo]

it makes a clone? not a new one

[versed cypress]

yes it makes a CLONE

[spring jasper]

is that a artifact?

[versed cypress]

its a chip from the lab

[spring jasper]

oh, thank i haven't got that yet

[crisp silo]

dang always thought it just spanwed a new one

[spring jasper]

my food production isn't fast enough to actually be able to buy chip

[versed cypress]

nop it just sort of clones the one you just killed xDDD

well just keep at it you will get to that point soon enough

[spring jasper]

not atm

first i gotta get Goat

[sonic radish]

im starting to believe the "+1 max evloution" doesnt exsist past 5

[spring jasper]

trying to push for lvl 15

[versed cypress]

haha it exists but its much much harder to get t6 plants

after that t7 plants are a myth still xDDD

i have never seen anyone say they got a t7 yet

[sonic radish]

its been going for like 3 weeks with the extra afk time with the rock on

[spring jasper]

i just instantly harvest once i get 6 plants

[versed cypress]

yeah you might need like a few more than that xDD like a few months xDD

[sonic radish]

bruuuuh

im about to give up and just go back to the grind lmao

[wind umbra]

isnt there a calc to tell u how long approx it would take to get a t6 plant

[versed cypress]

honestly if you still are pushign for things in gaming t6 plants are not what you should be concentrating on

[sonic radish]

i just wanted one. then after about a week it was like huh so thats how it is then ive just been leaving it

[versed cypress]

ithink the average calculation for a t6 with a full gaming set of all the same plants is about 2 or 3 months counting all the procs you might get from all your chars etc

[sonic radish]

god

[spring jasper]

i got a question for Sailing, like all i have ever seen is 4 boxes on my pile

does that i mean i have to pick up the boex once every 2 hours for it to max at 4?

[sonic radish]

but hey my snail hit level 9 while i was wasting time so theres a plus

[spring jasper]

[versed cypress]

do you only have 4 loot pile spots???

[sonic radish]

do you have this leveled at all?

[spring jasper]

i don't even have that unlocked

[crisp silo]

bruh\

[crisp silo]

i guess yes

[ashen marsh]

worth buying or should I save?

[sonic radish]

your next option

[spring jasper]

OKAY OKAY

i go do the quest

[spring jasper]

you want to gift me gems?

[crisp silo]

its loot is okay i guess, but art chance isnt bis

[versed cypress]

you really have to start working on the merits for w5 its a high tier necesity for w5 skill progress

farm gems in game

[sonic radish]

go kill doot or giant mobs

[spring jasper]

yeah i do,

[ashen marsh]

bis?

[spring jasper]

my main issue being 9/10 chars being bound to divinity

makes everything feel very slow

[versed cypress]

on average you should be getting between 500-700 gems weekly

[crisp silo]

uhh i mean best value

[versed cypress]

for gem farming you only need your active char tough

[crisp silo]

like not really best value but best trait

[ashen marsh]

ahhh thought it was abv. for soemthing lol

[spring jasper]

so which one do i go at first?

[crisp silo]

usually means best in slot

[ashen marsh]

good to know ty

[sonic radish]

loot pile is better imo if your trying to get your sailing going

[versed cypress]

there should be a guide somewhere

i dont know the command for it

[spring jasper]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[spring jasper]

there is this

but it ends at W4

[versed cypress]

thanks rage

[spring jasper]

thanks rage

[sonic radish]

np np

[spring jasper]

blindly following people who i assume know more is all i do

[sonic radish]

i do it too dont worry lmao

[crisp silo]

unless bro can atom alr, i guess the atom cost reduction aint too much of a worry

[versed cypress]

that should help you push your sailing a bit more in the begining

[spring jasper]

i will unlock atom in approximatly 1 month

so i don't care

[sonic radish]

is going for 1B kills for the 5% even worth it

[raven fog]

What

[wind umbra]

so where it at?

[raven fog]

U were wrong

[wind umbra]

lmao i wasnt

[raven fog]

What was the bet about

[wind umbra]

crystal mobs get weaker

[raven fog]

It was the crystal mobs get weaker

Exactly

Where does ge get weaker

[wind umbra]

i took no damage from crystal mob

[raven fog]

My guy u got stronger

He didn’t get weaker

[wind umbra]

i took damage from wurm

[raven fog]

What

[wind umbra]

crystal mob stats are based on the mob of the map\

[raven fog]

There dmg gets less

[raven fog]

Exactly

[wind umbra]

so crystal mobs should be doing more damage than the mob of the map

[raven fog]

So where does he get weaker

[wind umbra]

but i took no damage from crystal mob because it got weaker after time passed

[crisp silo]

wtf is this other guy talking about

didnt we solve this issue

[wind umbra]

yeah we did dude was being condescending when this came up

[serene forum]

Is construction mastery rift a good bonus?

[weary hinge]

yes

[prisma drift]

Construction mastery was huge for my refinery speed

Maybe I’ll be able to make everyone skulls and traps now

20k nullo a pop

[thin kernel]

is their a way to see how much forge progress i get on my sb per hour? or is it just random all the time ?

[noble mesa]

From were i can farm this?

[thin kernel]

you dont need it just get the star talent pulsation and then is gg

[prisma lance]

Pretty fast now

[thin kernel]

wtf XD thats is fast

[untold saffron]

Only two pets left to unlock but hype new multiplier

[wind umbra]

you can farm them from w4 crystal mobs

[thin kernel]

for smeltin erryday.. is bm better for it then sb?

[weary hinge]

sb

[mystic mountain]

sorry if it seems stupid, but that's with kitsune active right? what's it without kitsune 😮

[plush spear]

Are ES better for death note than BB?

[tight ridge]

yes if active

bb might be better afk not sure, but es is by far the best for desth note farming

[plush spear]

I'm planning to just candy the death notes

[sharp wind]

Eclipse?

[plush spear]

Yes

[sharp wind]

Isnt SB the best for eclipse?

[vale wadi]

gaming question, I miss 3 mutations, but my chance is mostly like 11,5 %. is it worth it to wait or just spam research?

[plush spear]

Hmm why though?

[sharp wind]

Anvil production talent

Not the best afk kill maybe but most efficient since u got lots of anvil production

[granite grove]

forge progression too

[plush spear]

Makes sense..

[sharp wind]

Ah yes and forge

[wild hare]

What is the possibility that drop 2 traffic cone and not drop recipe from the lamps? im lucky and unlucky....

[sharp wind]

[glad crow]

does this affect construction exp on squirres?

[vale wadi]

gaming question, I miss 3 mutations, but my chance is mostly like 11,5 %. is it worth it to wait or just spam research?

[pure spindle]

Spam

[vale wadi]

thanks

[pure spindle]

Try for around 1% if its fast for you it scales with bits per plant

[serene forum]

Is construction mastery rift bonus top tier or not priority?

[pure spindle]

If thats unreasonable you may just need more bits

[glad crow]

i have been focusing it lately, and if you just doo it right, then its very fast too level up

[serene forum]

Is the bonus good though? As in super good?

[glad crow]

like i was at 1250 like 3 days ago, and i havent done it the most optimal way (also funny number lul)

[vale wadi]

got berry bush mutation now. thanks guys for advice

[glad crow]

like refinery speed is good and scales the more tot you have

and the build speed bonus is also really good

also the levels for trapper drone is good

and ofcourse in endgame, you want the extra tower levels also

[serene forum]

What average levels are your chars?

I think most of mines are level 150+ construction

[glad crow]

oh wait are you not talking construct mastery

like this one?

are you talking this one?

[serene forum]

Its not the same?

[glad crow]

no, the first one is for total building level, the second one is skill level

the second one should almost be maxed by default

[serene forum]

Ahh well that sucks

Guess ruby cards are my next leg up

[glad crow]

this one is the one you unlock before ruby cards, and its the important one

and the one you should be focusing on

[untold saffron]

if the snail is say 50% success with a 15% chance to reset on failure is the math:

50% success, 35% failure, 15% reset chance

or

50% success and then 15% of the remaining 50% on failure so 7.5% to reset?

[granite grove]

iirc, success/fail rolls first, if failed, then save/reset rolls second

[weary hinge]

the success/ failure is different from each other.

success chance first, fail chance later

[rough plover]

Hey guys, I've finally reached w5, now I was wondering should I keep my character at w4 farming keys to get more troll scales for the troll armor or keep on pushing w5 while upgrading void armor into lustre?

[crisp silo]

lustre currently leads to diabolical gear which kinda sucks

[granite grove]

void then chizoar, then skip to troll then magma

[dreamy spruce]

would upgrade void into chiz, chiz is great

[crisp silo]

honestly do div until arctis god

[dreamy spruce]

but yeah make sure to follow the pin on what to do with divinity

[rough plover]

Alright thanks

[granite grove]

or push bear god first, can farm troll scales later when ready to craft troll sets

besides, you need 80 cooking clogs and a lot of gold twines for 10 sets anyway, hard to get a lot of

[rough plover]

Alright will push divinity

[glad crow]

use w4 colo for troll keys

[rough plover]

Alright

[narrow torrent]

What about Nullo salt , just the amount of time you need without rift construction upgrade is a lot

[kind geyser]

What's the best lab setup and it's minimum requirements?

[frigid acorn]

has been awhile and update havent drop yet

[signal osprey]

It'll be at least a few hours

Lava is sleeping

[hidden temple]

Does trading with blobulyte for sailing make the trade ratio decrease?

Trying to drop it for the 777 trade achievement