lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dapper prism]

Gz!, be sure to do it on BB for chow

[pine pond]

Blood bones will be fine, maybe even clammies

[dapper prism]

Snelbie if you still need obols

[viral star]

oh i do and all of them basicly

[tall dirge]

so what is your seconds left to cc cd when cc end @dapper prism

[potent lily]

Im doing it on everyone each player on other monster

[viral star]

fam

absolutly terrible

[dapper prism]

Think like 32k or something, not sure.

but tente decreases that

It's basically like doing CC for 7ish minutes then having 7ish minutes of downtime

[viral star]

also finnaly got him

[tall dirge]

cc bubble level ?

[potent lily]

Is there a way to not put players in lab and get the things in it?

[clear quartz]

yes

w5 gods

[potent lily]

Ok ima work on it

[dapper prism]

312, 98%, crystal rate 1/30ish and choco chip => ~350k time skips +/-

[dapper prism]

Should double check the pins on some div help

[clear quartz]

anyone wanna offer some advice on my IE profile? or give a rough idea of what would be sensible to prioritise, since several things will help but some are probably foolish to focus on sooner than later?

[viral star]

shoould i put all poitnsi nto it?

[dapper prism]

Nooo, also go tab 3, level up checkmate for more

[tall dirge]

are all ugly people trapped as bandit bob, i want the lucky clover

[viral star]

i'd have to reset my talentrs

for that

[dapper prism]

You need 1 point in a few different things* sec

[viral star]

okay

ill reset so i can do better

[dapper prism]

Do it, you need checkmate, it will help a lot as each point there = 1 point in vman,

[dapper prism]

First run will be meh.
At least 1 point in talent 1, 2, 3, 4, 14, first
Then max 1, later on max 2, 14, 3, (not 4)

[viral star]

okay i will do like such

is printing in the speedrun mode good?

cos i've heard of it

[dapper prism]

In tab 3 be sure to max checkmate for the free points.
Then in #1084911530417606656 theres a guide on vman stuff/run however it's also very dependant on a ton of variables like damage.

You can do Vman run once a day roughly. 100% try to do it once today and then tomorrow. Unlock as many portals as you can, read the #1084911530417606656
As each portal unlocked will give you 30 void talent points to spend.

So todays run is meh, but since you get a bunch of talent points to max the above, tomorrows run will be a lot better.

[potent lily]

Anyoneis in a good guild i think my guild leader has quit like 1 year ago

[dapper prism]

#1073780959087964210 best find something with a discord 🤷

[tall dirge]

troll helm better then chiz?

[untold saffron]

I may be late but book checkmate first too

[viral star]

rest into the 1st one?

[dapper prism]

Yup, maxing #1 first is the priority

Longer void run = more portals => more free talent points for the next run.

Also worth trying to get a book checkout for tomorrows run

[viral star]

my damage is awful so gonna need it..

[dapper prism]

That's fine, your rushing through w1+2 kinda thing

[viral star]

im in w5..

[untold saffron]

Use the W2 kill ring if you have it

[viral star]

i dont

[little pagoda]

bro do your giant mobs

[viral star]

oh.

[dapper prism]

The talent is a void run, it's a timed thing where you start from w1 and rush through each map unlocking portal after portal.

[viral star]

ill go and try it now

[untold saffron]

I'll take them if he doesn't want them

[little pagoda]

lmao true

[viral star]

should i do the giants?

[dapper prism]

Be sure to check this first:
#1109526896640807002 message

and remember some of the hidden portals

[tall dirge]

make sure to stick to discord ruling and go talk in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ whilst void running

[little pagoda]

btw is vman the best char for giants with gimme gimme or what

[vagrant mountain]

[viral star]

right let me go there

[dapper prism]

Blas was joking

[viral star]

i was talking bout the tips loll

[tall dirge]

you would say that -.-

[little pagoda]

Yes and remember to invest in the big bubble that lets you not decrease chances after a kill, you get a lot ofgems and candy from giant mobs, so the more the better

[untold saffron]

So who's gonna guinea pig the best islands to unlock first for us when expeditions is out

[tall dirge]

grumblo!!

[dapper prism]

yellow 13

[viral star]

right.,...

[dapper prism]

idk ill mysteriously be afk until I get enough info xD

[untold saffron]

Did you say you're in W5🤔

[little pagoda]

That bubble is very worth

[viral star]

want my idleon efficiency link?

[gloomy dragon]

can someone tell me some advice im stuck in a quest with bb

[untold saffron]

How do you have level 1 bubbles in W5?

[gloomy dragon]

@dapper prism I need to complete coloseum gdq with my blood but I cant seem to get the time

[dapper prism]

I have lvl 1 bubble 👀
https://i.imgur.com/yktnbup.png

[untold saffron]

He looks disappointed in you

[dapper prism]

I realized i can finally level it up now

[little pagoda]

Same but tbh I'm gonna invest in that one a bit when I get enough geese for blobfish quest

[dapper prism]

It's called strategy

[rustic garnet]

Cog reconfigure complete...

[viral star]

https://shabowy.idleonefficiency.com

[untold saffron]

Need some new pack with a load of gems to encourage me getting the last 4 cogs

[dapper prism]

New pack this weekend

hear me lava, i need an excuse to buy some gems

[little pagoda]

btw I think my maestro has 1m damage with a weapon 2 tiers lower. Not saying that to spite you or anything but just a heads up that there are probably damage sources you aren't investing into

[untold saffron]

Watch it be a green gem pack though

[dreamy spruce]

Does this mean my pets are immortal?

[rustic garnet]

I've dropped about 40M/hr in total build for 400million extra exp per hour

[signal osprey]

It caps at 90%

[dapper prism]

Very low stamps
Missing a lot of stamps too
Dont let your daily NBLB hit easy bubbles, many are being hit by easy farmable mats.

[dreamy spruce]

ah okay, thanks.

[gloomy dragon]

@dapper prism can you help?

[rustic garnet]

you've got yourself into a support role 😉

be more specific and you get better help, generally

[untold saffron]

This is the one thing I've never paid attention to, I just atom what I want to atom and let the chips fall where they may on NBLB

[dapper prism]

Should just do the quests on other classes that have better aoe/lower cd's
Idk how it is on bb, but do you spam spawn all waves at once that you can?

[gloomy dragon]

yup

[dapper prism]

Thing is, hard time gated on some crap like salts/trapped things, getting some of them up like carpenter for proper con BR is essnetial

[rustic garnet]

what's the issue again?

[gloomy dragon]

I need to complete coloseum gdq with my blood but I cant seem to get the time

[rustic garnet]

ok

so do you one shot literally everything?

that's step one

[untold saffron]

You are absolutely right and I know I should, its just such effort along with everything else

[gloomy dragon]

yes one shot and have void weapon

[rustic garnet]

weapon is meaningless here

do you have your movement speed up to 350%?

[gloomy dragon]

how you get that with bb

[dapper prism]

Potions

[rustic garnet]

yip

[dapper prism]

Is it though, is it really?

[tall dirge]

you talking to lava or something nata ?

[dreamy spruce]

cant seem to get to wave 125 even with the comps from guide :{

[rustic garnet]

eh, slightly

the attack speed can help

[dapper prism]

the range too ig

[rustic garnet]

sure

[dapper prism]

but yeh minimal xD

99% other stuff that will make or break it, not the weapon

[untold saffron]

It's safer but much longer to manually mono/refill than full auto if you're having trouble

[dapper prism]

When do you die/lose?

Also turn off auto for burger

[rustic garnet]

ok, do you know how inflame and combustion work?

[dreamy spruce]

just now wave 98, got to wave 115 ish yesterday

[tall dirge]

i think we've had long enough time to vote on your fave class

[rustic garnet]

Do you have enough to kill most of the map when you cast it?

and do you heave ember bear+bear at a high level too?

[gloomy dragon]

got speed up to 144% cant go more

[dapper prism]

Got auto off on burger?

[rustic garnet]

The skills on page 4, at the top, will help you finish GDC on BB

[dreamy spruce]

nope

Will do that next time

Why is auto bad on burger?

[dapper prism]

Not bad, its only damage, however having it on makes refiller potentially refill burger, instead of more important refills like sand giant.

[dreamy spruce]

ahh okay

[dapper prism]

Else try the snelbie one?

Snelbie build should easily get you to 125 but will take a nice long time

[dreamy spruce]

Will try the sand giant one once more, thanks for tips

[potent lily]

Just got this rn

Oops

Tge dice thingy i got it rn 1st time

[rustic garnet]

on BB, only req is 350% move speed, 1 shot, and the skills on the bar with a reasonable leve

[glad crow]

going forward

[next locust]

Does mining resources in colo make the next wave appear faster?

[rustic garnet]

no

[clear quartz]

https://ryanstark1989.idleonefficiency.com i likely just need to get better samples to push through to get the higher atom collider unlocks, but yeah. nothing jumps out at me as something i have neglected so might just be some small gains/optimizing i guess and/or just waiting

[rustic garnet]

it gives you bigger multiplier

[dapper prism]

but be sure to remove midas or any +HP prayers as it affects the hp on ore too

[rustic garnet]

it takes 20 seconds to despawn the nodes

if it takes longer you have prayers on, turn them off

[gloomy dragon]

damn are there cards that up the speed?

[rustic garnet]

no

well, sure

but no

with the 3 or 4 pots, you should get really high anyway

equip the food trophy

if you are stuck

[tall dirge]

how many cards is it for ruby card ?

[dapper prism]

depends on the card

[quiet pewter]

i think your actaul move speed on screen caps out lower

[rustic garnet]

use the food set too

goat, 350%

[quiet pewter]

still good for afk

[dapper prism]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cards
Typically around 4.5k, where 4* was only like 200ish

[rustic garnet]

anything higher isn't good for afk, outside of damage, IIRC

Oh trickz, small favor... I really don't know what to put for my atoms each day

[quiet pewter]

doesnt move still work afk above that? i might be remembering wrong

[rustic garnet]

https://naterade.idleonefficiency.com/

[gloomy dragon]

I cant only go up to 1.3k item cant go that high yet

[dapper prism]

Move is dependant on map

[tall dirge]

once i get the rift bonus will it reset or auto turn them ruby?

[rustic garnet]

could you have a peep and suggest?

[dapper prism]

Amount of items has nothing to do with move speed

[rustic garnet]

Blood, have you tried what I asked?

[gloomy dragon]

oh but even if I have the 3 potion on I can only go up to 144 right now

[rustic garnet]

Put on king of food trophy, put on food % boost card set and the 4 potions?

[quiet pewter]

does the 350% cap apply in the afk calc?

[gloomy dragon]

dont have that trophy

[rustic garnet]

Ok, that's something you need

you can get it in 3 days max

if you do it on 10 people per day

on your bike!

its way more important than GDC

[gloomy dragon]

well I would need to the rare food for it

[quiet pewter]

hey just finished green stacking w5...nice

[rustic garnet]

that's way more important than GDC

[gloomy dragon]

but ill try

[potent lily]

100 yellow snowflake was pain

[rustic garnet]

are you farming with ES?

[potent lily]

But i did it and got the gloves for the vman

Es is?

[rustic garnet]

Elemental Sorcerer

[potent lily]

No with bb

[rustic garnet]

That is a very, very bad idea

perhaps the worst possible farmer

[potent lily]

All my account is kind bad tbh

[rustic garnet]

ok... any reason not to improve it?

Do you have an elemental sorcer?

[potent lily]

Yea

[rustic garnet]

Are you actually in World 5?

[potent lily]

Yea

[rustic garnet]

Try using the ES for active farm

[potent lily]

Im on mobile so im not active farming tbh

[rustic garnet]

ok

than good luck

afk farm is about the same for all specs, doesn't require much else

some give a bit better kill rate

you could still try short term active ES farm

20-30 minutes is still really strong

[gloomy dragon]

forgot to ask but does the potion consume in the dungeon?

[potent lily]

Im farming wood rn with him im trying to get the cards

@gloomy dragon no

[gloomy dragon]

nice

[rustic garnet]

doesn't

[rustic garnet]

I feel you may be very, very far behind if you're farming cards afk with ES, but good luck

[dapper prism]

AFK + ES do not go together.

[potent lily]

Yea i was afk for like a year so i didnt do much

[dapper prism]

It would defeat the whole point of using ES

[rustic garnet]

yeah, pretty much

playing pure afk is really not much to talk about

I can't really offer advice that way

it's a different game

[dapper prism]

Active a lot of stuff can be 100x if not even 200-500x faster.

[tall dirge]

rune trimmed legs used for anything doing my doot runs for cards

[gloomy dragon]

yes with 172 I got the first one

[rustic garnet]

I think maybe even higher

[dapper prism]

yes, but forgot what besides jewel

[rustic garnet]

I feel active ES gives 10,000x the resources

[pure ember]

Cam chaotic chizoar card actually be doubled or is it just visual?

[rustic garnet]

There was a point where passive cards could be doubled, but that may be gone now

I don't know

[pure ember]

I know resource cards can be doubled..... but idk about chizoar

[rustic garnet]

Anyone hate greenstacks falling under 10m and having to figure out which one?

and the script that ran to show what is good to greenstack is gone 😦

[pure ember]

It's generally refinery mats.... and some alch stuff

[rustic garnet]

usually

but m y luigi brackets were below for some reason

[pure ember]

This week's chip cost 2.5 m Luigi brackets

[rustic garnet]

yeah

I figured it out

this is also low for some reason

I don't remember why

maybe I made some pants or feet

[pure ember]

Magma gear/vial?

[vagrant mountain]

toolbox

[rustic garnet]

oh nice!

Yeah that sorta works...

my semi short/long term targets are all there

and much longer term here...

[dreamy spruce]

@dapper prism the tip of not having auto on burger worked, barely got past 125 thanks!

[rustic garnet]

Does drop chance impact the number of base drops?

[vagrant mountain]

i think if you have 10x DR and something is 1 in 2, it drops 5 times

[rustic garnet]

i.e this one?

ok, i'll swap my obols then

[vagrant mountain]

i believe if you have 14x, you get 2 instead of 1

[rustic garnet]

I can get to 14.89

but that would require me using midas

not sure if that's worth the reduction in max orb or not

so... 14+ will now make my oranges 2x

the orb size before midas was 142

let's see how big it gets now

[vagrant mountain]

you only get 142 orb on citringes? 👀

[rustic garnet]

that's what it looked like?

[vagrant mountain]

wtf i get like 600 orb on citringes

[rustic garnet]

ahh sorry

[vagrant mountain]

ohhh

[rustic garnet]

I meant the wormhole

iit got like to 130

anyway, citringes will be back to a green stack in like 30 minutes, w/e

happy days

[hardy shale]

Does vman get a boost to sampling skills during the speedrun or is it just mob sampling?

[rustic garnet]

mobs only, as it's multikill boost

Midas drops it like 20 levels it seems

[vagrant mountain]

yeeah im not sure if midas is worth running on ES

[rustic garnet]

It brings me to 14x dr

[frosty pike]

isn't it boosting your drop rate over 14x anyways? from what i remember its not worth using midas

[vagrant mountain]

oh probably worth then?

[rustic garnet]

dunno

[vagrant mountain]

technically you only need 13.5x DR

[frosty pike]

like portal itself is boosting your drop rate

[rustic garnet]

only on the portal mobs though

[fading dust]

Depends on if more DR for ~100 mobs outweighs less DR for ~140 mobs

[frosty pike]

13x 120 vs 13x140 portal with the difference between 20 of those kills at a higher droprate compared to the side kills you get at 14x.

[fading dust]

Maybe you can base it off a comparison of yhe number of mob mats you get

[rustic garnet]

The last comparison I need is actually does running higher damage cards do better

[barren otter]

are you mat farming or farming rare drops on your ES?

[fading dust]

Depends on scaling of mob health I guess

[barren otter]

cause midas is almost never worth it for mob mats

[rustic garnet]

On ES... on everything else, it's 100% worth it

[undone pollen]

got this thing should i keep stuff and let it evolve or can still doing what i did until now claiming all every time i opened game

[rustic garnet]

as you should 1 shot

[tall dirge]

do you guys have ruby doot ?

[barren otter]

yea if youre strictly going for mob mats on your ES right now dont bother putting on any HP prayer modifiers

[rustic garnet]

no

ok, first run no HP mods, DR cards

you know the funny bit about this, is that the likely 'best' situation is like hyper card swapping

the first 125 or so do with cards, then swap to damage cards for the last 40

but... no lol

[barren otter]

i have DR cards on perma

and then pick between multi per tier or damage

whatever gets me a higher multikill %

[rustic garnet]

DR cards:

[vagrant mountain]

do different resources give different amount of atoms?

[rustic garnet]

no

it's purely based on count

[vagrant mountain]

why am i getting more from bleach logs

[rustic garnet]

that's a great question

I don't think they do

but if they do, incredible news to me

[dreamy spruce]

Would be news to me too

[rustic garnet]

They certainly cost more to atomize in bubbles

[viral star]

i unlinked 2 times this week can i link?

[rustic garnet]

you cannot unlink again, as it tell syou

[viral star]

bnut i want to link him to something

[rustic garnet]

you can LINK, just not UNLINK

[viral star]

how

'

[rustic garnet]

so hop on your master shabowy

[tall dirge]

@rustic garnet you got ruby king doot card? also woundering if lava nerfs weekly dung i used to afford a opol ring per my weekly run now I get like 3k flobo max

[viral star]

oh

wrong character

immma go die in silence

[rustic garnet]

no

doot is just some DR, I'll get it later

433 more doot cards

I would imagine I could hoover that up in 100 doot runs

[tall dirge]

you can get more then one card drop a kill ?

[rustic garnet]

sure

I heard people getting 6 or so per doot kill

[tall dirge]

i just went though 60 and got 60 cards thereabouts

with sneblie on

[rustic garnet]

card drop and DR both impact card drop

[dreamy spruce]

You'll want more than just snelbie for cdr cards

[zealous niche]

I got platnium basic kruk last night and was getting 0-3 cards a kill

[rustic garnet]

on a kruk kill?

getting 3 is pretty lucky

but yeah, possible

[tall dirge]

hmm

[zealous niche]

Plus jman card talent and 10x dr overall

And card doublers

[rustic garnet]

no w5 cards yet?

[zealous niche]

Did I screw up and miss a dr card?

[barren otter]

need them ruby DR cards

yea

[rustic garnet]

This willd efinitely beat out some other ones...

[zealous niche]

I have most w5 at plat

[dapper prism]

Gratz! 🙂

[zealous niche]

🫠

[rustic garnet]

btw, working on 1 billion kills will amost definitely get you rubyu w1 cards :

[zealous niche]

I wasted time and keys

[barren otter]

you only missed out on 15% DR

[zealous niche]

20

[rustic garnet]

it's fine

[barren otter]

youd replace the christmas box one isnt that 15?

[zealous niche]

Swapping mimic

[barren otter]

oh true

or

you go ruby those

[zealous niche]

I was booping the snoot of kruk for an hour, that .2dr helps

[barren otter]

and get even more dr :)

[zealous niche]

Yeah, waiting on more damage for that

[rustic garnet]

generally not hitting a break point means it doesn't matter

[barren otter]

no excess gems to buy from shop?

[zealous niche]

Don’t you need the rift anyway

[barren otter]

uh

idr tbh

[gloomy dragon]

how many you get per kill?

[rustic garnet]

with damage on

[zealous niche]

It’s my next rift bonus, trying to get one more kruk set agi boosted and then will have at it

Got a str and wis kruk set

[rustic garnet]

so like 10-15% more with DR it seems

[barren otter]

good chance that shop resets once expeditions come out too...

[zealous niche]

Yeah

[rustic garnet]

I just blew all my gems 😦

[barren otter]

might want to buy them if you want them now

[rustic garnet]

I'll have to farm something

[zealous niche]

I’ve been prioritising slabbable gem purchases

[candid latch]

Anyone know the drop rate for rift tears?

[zealous niche]

Low

[rustic garnet]

I'm a little miffed at slab tbh

[barren otter]

yea i slammed all my excess gems over the past 3 weeks into the rubyfiers

wanted to max out my DR

[rustic garnet]

the 1.41k achievement isn't possible for me without something new added

[barren otter]

for my despair wing farm

[zealous niche]

I need a new char to grab most of what I have undone

Or event items no longer offered

[rustic garnet]

I am only missing 1 or 2 things from a new char, I think

[serene forum]

Are multiple alchemics for pet spices with a converter meta for first spice?

[zealous niche]

Think so

[rustic garnet]

I don't think i can get these

[dapper prism]

get that obol...

[rustic garnet]

the kattlekruck one?

[dapper prism]

or take one of mine?
https://i.imgur.com/Or7F6f6.png

[zealous niche]

Look at all those quest items and bags 😦

[rustic garnet]

you can get a few of those

[barren otter]

you cant get the walupiggy one

[zealous niche]

On a new char yes

[rustic garnet]

This is recoverable It hink

[barren otter]

if you already finished the quest once

i also missed out on that one

[zealous niche]

Oh?

[serene forum]

Dr?

[rustic garnet]

I've done 5k keys at 14.89 DR

[serene forum]

Whats best main stat bubble to atom? Str agi mage or luck?

[rustic garnet]

wisdom, imho

as most of them are your active farmers

but str is ok too

you should be 'hourly clicking' them though

[vagrant mountain]

they all good because of skilling

[dapper prism]

Hour clicks is the meta

[barren otter]

its nice getting obols now

60 more frags

[rustic garnet]

it's by far the biggest push part of the game, I think

[barren otter]

to use on nothing

[zealous niche]

It is recoverable!

[rustic garnet]

Link me your IE

and I'll tlel you what else is

I went through this exercise before

[vagrant mountain]

@dapper prism do you know why bleach logs are giving me more atoms than oak?

[rustic garnet]

more than you expect

[dapper prism]

Idk i still have a use as ive been working on purple main stat obols xD

[zealous niche]

https://spark.idleonefficiency.com/

[barren otter]

i need to do that too but im rage fragging obols now cause never cape

[dapper prism]

I never use that ui, not sure

[rustic garnet]

you mean these trickz?

[vagrant mountain]

hmm ok thought you might know

[dapper prism]

Posted these earlier: Still have room for improvement
https://i.imgur.com/VNj79gp.png
https://i.imgur.com/tMeekpc.png

[zealous niche]

I think a few of the fishing lures are still obtainable for me

[barren otter]

kruk came out as i started doing main stat obols

so i stopped entirely

and at this rate ill need another 500k keys to get all 10 capes

[dapper prism]

Those empty spots 👀

I still need to slab these obols:
https://i.imgur.com/zPXslBb.png

But alch shop has been rude

[barren otter]

oh i keep forgetting to buy those

ty for the reminder

[rustic garnet]

I think this is gettable too

!!! c'mon dood

[dapper prism]

i buy a lot a day 😦
https://i.imgur.com/ecAqRHF.png

[rustic garnet]

this is the best trophy for a lot of things

[serene forum]

How? 10 hours i play is only 20-30 lvls vs atoms 100 clicks

[rustic garnet]

This one is like... do this 10 times and get it? maybe 20?

[zealous niche]

Have got plat n amarok and no cape yet

[barren otter]

i didnt even get a single skilling obol

[dapper prism]

Because atomable bubbles has way bigger and other prioties...?

[barren otter]

lmfao

now i remember why i stopped caring about these

[pearl cedar]

You forgot the 50 extra omni procs for 24 hr gameplay

[wary girder]

whats best char to farm death note on?

need 1 mil from w1,2,3

[zealous niche]

Can you do the picnic daily on multiple chars?

[rustic garnet]

These are aeasily gotten:

[serene forum]

Omni procs on active?

[zealous niche]

Yeah, have to figure out if I have a char left that can do it

That’s the task for the next hour

[pearl cedar]

Gotta hourly check your other chars for max gainz

[rustic garnet]

You can get something from this quest too

[barren otter]

@dapper prism have you had any luck getting multiple capes

[zealous niche]

Figure out which quest items are still slabbable and which are lost until a new char

Oh!

[serene forum]

True but a risk imo and i would need doot

[zealous niche]

Nice

[signal osprey]

[dreamy spruce]

damn

[vagrant mountain]

[zealous niche]

Good spot @rustic garnet

[barren otter]

show cc bubble lvl

[serene forum]

Id wait at least a week of daily atom 100s on main stat to at least beef it up before focusing on other stat bubbles imo

[barren otter]

i know youve been hourly clicking that

[signal osprey]

Thats actually a visual bug

[rustic garnet]

You can get most bobbers by using your 9th char

[barren otter]

oh

[signal osprey]

I normally get 400-420k

[barren otter]

[rustic garnet]

lol

[signal osprey]

But if you activate cc and then switch characters the buff stays on

Then you wait out the cd and go activate cc again and they stack

[serene forum]

I wonder what the best bubble to atom is though thats beating main stat scalability wise

[vagrant mountain]

omg 😆

[signal osprey]

So that was 2 CC's going at once

[rustic garnet]

The other bobbers are from this guy, easy get on any char basically:

[tall dirge]

any tips on getting 2000 batterys lmao

[zealous niche]

Thanks! I’ve put off doing it because I wasn’t sure how to track down who gave what

[rustic garnet]

2 of the bags here: on your 9th char

[pearl cedar]

Depends what you want but call me bob is usually pushed, and quick slap for damage

[zealous niche]

Apparently my 9th is quest starved

[pearl cedar]

There's really not a lot of other bubbles that scale great

[signal osprey]

Its pretty much bob and quick slap assuming you do hourly clicks

If you dont then you probably atom stats

[rustic garnet]

This is a tricky one, make sure you read how to get it

[vagrant mountain]

ive been throwing atoms into ligma

[rustic garnet]

before you doing any more on schitzo

[zealous niche]

Yeah, I have a char working on that one

[rustic garnet]

Do not ask what ligma is

[vagrant mountain]

ligma balls

[zealous niche]

So you’ve been investing in arcade?

[rustic garnet]

me?

[zealous niche]

No, doot enjoyer

[rustic garnet]

😄

[zealous niche]

Thanks for the help though, saved a bit of time

[granite condor]

For the Beat Boss on X Characters in a Row , do I need to do them on my first char, then second, ....

[rustic garnet]

Oh hey dude

you haven't completed the treasure quests!!

[vagrant mountain]

youre thinking of bussa

[rustic garnet]

That's REALLy good for you

you got some slab stuff

but also just some good loot available

[zealous niche]

I was doing them on vman, but then it wanted me to equip archer armor

Haven’t gone back with the archer yet

[edgy pendant]

Yes

[zealous niche]

Is it possible to finish that treasure hunt on vman?

[rustic garnet]

I don't remember

you have it started on your sb too

For trying to push T6 plants... is there nay trick?

I've got a screen of T5 plants just sitting there

[barren otter]

get lucky

[rustic garnet]

should I only do it on a partial set?

or just leave them till they pop?

[barren otter]

dont most ppl just game chems

and focus on one plant

[sick sentinel]

i did about half the plant i wanted and half chems

[rustic garnet]

dunno

[barren otter]

yea what circ said

[rustic garnet]

ok, as in you kept cycling all but the one plant?

[zealous niche]

Just kitsune levels, fertiliser levels are and mutation chance are the only things to help with getting new tier plants

[rustic garnet]

and how do you 'half chems'? just farm for them in remaining slots?

[sick sentinel]

yeah, i kept like 9-10 bonsai or whatever and then picked any plants that werent chemicals

then when i had a good amount of chems, maybe like 6 or more i would go through them

[rustic garnet]

and it doesn't relaly matter which 9 or 10 I keep

when I have only 1 of the t 6

just not that one

so keep half non maxed and then cycle the other slot

[barren otter]

yup

and then pray everytime you click a chem

[sick sentinel]

there may be a more efficient way to do it but thats just how i did it

[tall dirge]

just put by build speed obols on and it didn;t affect the characts build speed at al

[rustic garnet]

did you look at them?

[sick sentinel]

you need to open the cogs page for it to reload

[rustic garnet]

look at the cogs, make them know you know they exist

[tall dirge]

i went off the game and back on

[rustic garnet]

The cogs dont' know

you need to know they know

look into their eyes

only the construction obols will give you the true sight you need

[tall dirge]

12444/ hr 573k/hr with on imma take the obols off now

[rustic garnet]

how about you actually do what I suggested?

I'm not joking

go on the char with the obols, open the cogs tab

[tall dirge]

oh nice it worked nicely tbf 24360/hr 1m/hr

[fading dust]

Anyone else think the gaming card game is sus

Like that it is predetermined

[rustic garnet]

It is 100% random discord

there is no skill involved

TMYK

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-26317296

I had been studying the patterns for ages

and it BROKE my heart it is random

like, seriously broke my heart that it was so lazy and random 😦

[fading dust]

Okay great, because idk why frame it like its an actual game

[rustic garnet]

because Lava cares about us

[fading dust]

Ive deliberately pressed on skulls and it doesnt change a thing

[rustic garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/no-money-money-life-wallet-broke-gif-7513240

[barren otter]

i click the bottom middle one everytime

i dont even look at it anymore

[rustic garnet]

I speed press it now

same card every time

[barren otter]

yup

i even recorded it

and looked at frames

made no diff

[rustic garnet]

gives me more time to prepare to click on my free weekly companion pet

[vagrant mountain]

first few times i played it, i thought i was getting old

[rustic garnet]

I really was boggling and stretchign what the pattern could POSSIBLY be

I thought, for a few times, I understood

and I had some patterns forming

like 'if there was no star on this one, or either next to it, 100% star'

and I thought there were intracate movements

like 1 skull moved forward 2 all the time

and one always moved backward 3

and one would rotate on/off on the same spot

nooooope, just random

Brain was working overtime

You add one skull and 1 new pattern with each add

[vagrant mountain]

fingers weak cards are heavy

[rustic garnet]

first one starts and moves 1 each time. Second one comes and moves 2....

[vagrant mountain]

[rustic garnet]

That's too much sorry

had to delete it

hurt my eyes 😄

[vagrant mountain]

it was getting very intense

[barren otter]

how do i still not have cape man

wtf

[vagrant mountain]

must be skill issue

[barren otter]

yea must be

[vagrant mountain]

@dapper prism found you

[tall dirge]

god dam, i just upgraded my vman to diabolical and i got a damage increase of 2m ....

[dapper prism]

Hax

Weapons don't do much

[rustic garnet]

I literally ONLY have w1 cape, no other boss cape

its incredibly frustrating

[barren otter]

yup

i have no W2,3 or 4 boss capes

and 1 kruk cape in 50k keys

[heavy moth]

👀

[barren otter]

must be nice

[heavy moth]

waste of space XD

would be nice if they were any good

[barren otter]

i just want the +1 slab...

[heavy moth]

i know the feeling 4 slab i wont get ever IS (cause of a code lock) meg cause i sck balls at fishing mini games and guild is rng but been playing for 2 years now and no where to be seen

[barren otter]

im missing all the event ones

that i probably wont ever see

[dapper prism]

So i just did the IS hat and its actually pretty easy.
All you do is try and unlock the realm stuff, then ignore 99% of the game except realm for while.

Once you get far enough in realm the whole game breaks and just dominos

[heavy moth]

yeaa got 2 IS accoutn one on mobile that im past teehee and one on steam that i neglected since i cant recover a lost code

and cant redeem the one after

[stiff kayak]

does the snake link also increse afk divinity gain?

[dapper prism]

It will basically feel like "regular game struggling to save up for 10 copper" -> get to realm breakpoint "oh i have unlimited godshards"

[dapper prism]

oh ouch that's rough

[heavy moth]

yea even asked lava on a stream XD seems to be no way to past that

[dapper prism]

Can one link a new IS account to Idleon stuff? like if u do mobile thigns can u still continue at all?

[heavy moth]

and i tried reseting my steam cache of the game and other trick ahha

need to be on steam

for the reward but i dont have 2 steam account so cant tel

[dapper prism]

From reddit
"I messed up and didn’t collect the 1st reward. I was able to delete my save file and start fresh. "

[heavy moth]

yea tried that didnt work for me

[dapper prism]

but that's the 1st reward, no clue how it would work with other stuff

[heavy moth]

tho i dont know if i did correctly

[dreamy spruce]

Does construction snapshot or not? I've heard people say both

[dapper prism]

Ive seen most endies say yes. but only if you last opened/closed it on a dk

[dreamy spruce]

Alright, thanks

[wary girder]

does species slayer quest for vman only apply to my maestros deathnote?

i got 1mil dnote all all world 1,2,3 mobs but its only registering 12

[lyric sequoia]

It's the obols that snapshot, and you must stay on the zone you're in and not open the cog page of construction to keep it

[dapper prism]

Oh guess only the obols then ^ 🤷

[wary girder]

nvm a relog fixed it lol

[dreamy spruce]

ah unfortunate, dont have those anyway. Thanks though

[wary girder]

shouldve done this ages ago all it took was some candy lol

[scenic bridge]

does bitty litty stack if you have two divine knights?

[rustic garnet]

probably not

[dapper prism]

None of those types of talents stack on any of the classes. Highest talent will count

like the dk/sb/es gaming/sailing/divinity, dr, printer stuff, is all highest talent.

That's what makes having a 2nd DK/es/sb good too since they'll be stuck in lab you can run those talents all permanently very easily.

[wary girder]

is there a vman speedrun guide laying around somewhere

[fast grail]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1109526896640807002

[paper sail]

#1084911530417606656

[gray pagoda]

Someone please tell me what I did... I honestly have no clue. Is DK really just that bad?

And yes, they both have all their talent points spent

[paper sail]

That isn't a real question. There are tons of unique things not shown on the character screen that can be the cause and nobody wants to play 100 questions with you.

[loud isle]

First glance you gave him 44k hp lmao

[prisma drift]

Meat shank cries

[vagrant mountain]

@dapper prism

[crystal socket]

for the quest no snapping contract the tree npc in world 3 "and the rest of the quest line" does it mean keep the game running or not?

[gray pagoda]

Oh, that makes sense. I have been working on my purple bubbles a lot, so that's most likely it.

[gray pagoda]

Dang man, sorry

[crystal socket]

thank you

[gray pagoda]

I was the exact opposite. I used to main BB (yeah yeah, go ahead and shun me, I know it sucks) before I switched to an ES main, and started focusing on those bubbles more. I also didn't do much with alchemy at all, so it wasn't hard to make my purple bubbles better than my orange ones.

[tight ridge]

bro i just unlocked tremor worms and got my ass kicked why the difficulty jump up that high out of nowhere went from 100 survivability to 3

[gray pagoda]

Bro fr? I'm still at the moles, and I'm survivng no problem. How big is the defence jump.

[tight ridge]

yeah i was chilling all the way through one shotting everything then entered worms and they dealt half my health then the crystals just one shot me xD

the map before worms

worms

[vagrant mountain]

just increase your max HP

or equip food

[tight ridge]

food does nothing when they one shot

i gotta upgrade my armor finally lmao

im only on chizor

[gray pagoda]

What armor are you using?

oh

[vagrant mountain]

ehh im farming wurms in dementia

[paper sail]

take off Balance of Pain as a stop-gap

[gray pagoda]

I'm trying to unlock nullo salts so I can get troll, but it's proving to be pretty difficult

And by difficult I mean I'm lazy and don't like salts

[tight ridge]

whats that

my salt game is pretty good

[tight ridge]

i jsut didnt get the troll recipes yet xD

[gray pagoda]

Ngl, I think it's stupid how many nullo salts are needed for everything

[tight ridge]

uhh im not using this cuz i cant multikill w5 yet lmao

[gray pagoda]

I currently only have leggings, but I'm going to need it for magma/kruk armor

[tight ridge]

these my stats

[vagrant mountain]

dont need def just increase max hp

[tight ridge]

how

[gray pagoda]

I don't even want to imagine what it's going to be like to try and unlock the kruk staff. Not 100% sure which unlock it is, but I think it's the 9th, and that's going to be a type of hell I never want to experience

[vagrant mountain]

honestly PO box is probably enough

[tight ridge]

ooh okay i can do that rn brb

[swift pecan]

Looks like alchemy needs some work too. Im almost the same level.

[vagrant mountain]

yeah pump your FMJ, 3k def is a little low

i have 3k after balance of pain which is -59% def lol

[fast grail]

I approve of this message

[gray pagoda]

Has anyone gotten 200% crit on a warrior?

[paper sail]

Sorry. Harsher than I had to be, but come on. Think of the number of systems in this game. All of them are potential answers and we have no way of knowing. The answer is probably many things. Share a Public IE if you really want help.

[vagrant mountain]

just pump beholder statue and you will have 250% crit on everyone

[gray pagoda]

I know pretty much everyone has it on archer and mage, considering they use things like farsight, but warrior doesn't really have anything

[paper sail]

All classes can get well over 400% crit

[swift pecan]

I haven't even focused crit and i think my dk is at like 190%, so its definately possible.

[gray pagoda]

Nah, you're cool lol, I was just joking. I know there's a lot of things, that's why I was just asking for ideas, so I could go investigate them and see if they were the problem.

[gray pagoda]

What's the best place to farm those? Beans on DK for crystals?

I know that one's pretty popular, but not sure

Oh, alright, thanks

Can't wait for December... I'll finally have choco then.

[paper sail]

Especially with Vman bonus. My statue level isn't insane and already gives 75% crit minimum

[gray pagoda]

That thing is going to be a huge game changer for me like y'all wouldn't believe.

[vagrant mountain]

just gamba in gem shop for choco chip

[swift pecan]

Choco rotation definately needs fixed.

[gray pagoda]

Fr. When was the last one? And then the next one's in December. One after is in February. It's so random, I can't even figure out what the chance/rotation time is supposed to be.

[vagrant mountain]

we love choco chip

[true obsidian]

does this "Extra critters from all traps" have to be only collect by drone or can use eagle eye too?

[true obsidian]

[swift pecan]

I'm only at 56k capy cards 😦

[gray pagoda]

lol Scoli probably has over 1M

[vagrant mountain]

waiting for scoli's ss

[gray pagoda]

Capybara cards, that is

[vagrant mountain]

[barren otter]

I'm nearly at 2mil...

[paper sail]

I don't even spend much time in w5

[barren otter]

lol

[paper sail]

lmao

[gray pagoda]

WTF?! 🤣

[rustic garnet]

it's not that crazy

honestly

[barren otter]

it racks up pretty fast

[paper sail]

For sure. There are people with 10x mine

[barren otter]

each kill gives like 2 cards at this point

1-3

[tight ridge]

2% gains 🔥

[random saddle]

Lol am i getting penaltied for opera mask for aboosing gold fever rush last time? I have 500b but still at 11% damage on opera mask

[gray pagoda]

Dayum, that's juicy

[dapper prism]

STALKER

[near ravine]

Day 1 of #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 supremacy

[dapper prism]

No, the artifact is just trash

[random saddle]

I see

[paper sail]

with 2b gold bars. Do you only have the base version?

[vagrant mountain]

[rustic garnet]

Being in w5 doesn't mean you should ask Qs in W5

[swift pecan]

Ooh about to hit my first godshard coin.

[random saddle]

Yea

[dapper prism]

Went from nearly none to 1000B gold bars and i got abtou 1b dmg on a char that has like... 800b or something

[tight ridge]

💔

[random saddle]

Yea base

[paper sail]

11% sounds about right then

[vagrant mountain]

stalking you at tremor wurms and library cuz nobody would ever go to those places...

[gray pagoda]

R.I.P.

[vagrant mountain]

time to catch some fruitflies

[dapper prism]

You followed me to the library, that's stalkerish

Pretty sure i saw you glance into the coffee shop too

[true obsidian]

just get better HP

[vagrant mountain]

get you at the library cuz youre not allowed to be loud there

[tight ridge]

how

[gray pagoda]

He's not stalking you. He's just making sure you're ok without your knowledge!

[vagrant mountain]

STR also gives HP

[tight ridge]

im at 19K hp

the crystals do 29K to me lmao

[paper sail]

There are also HP stamps, defense stamps, cards, star signs

[swift pecan]

You just need defence honestly. Crystals are only doing 2.2k to me

[gray pagoda]

Ok, can we talk about how good that first one is? Like, you have access to that talent from day one of playing the game, and that's a pretty good bonus considering you get it so early.

[tight ridge]

ill pump fmj tomorrow

[true obsidian]

you need 35k to be not dead

stamp also give you hp and def

[paper sail]

It's a combo of HP and Def, yeah. Each helps the other.

[true obsidian]

my FMJ not even that high

[swift pecan]

Mines only 147

[tight ridge]

my fmj at 67 so i can level it a bit

[gray pagoda]

Omg stamps are amazing. I neglected those before joining the discord, and now my stats are skyrocketing compared to what they used to be.

I'm going to be honest though, those unstackable item one's are annoying af

[paper sail]

Been leveling mine because 🤷 Maybe Island Expeditions will use it.

[dapper prism]

Mhm, that sounds very.. creepy 👀

[swift pecan]

I forgot about my stamps because i was short on money for everything, hit them all this morning and got like 2k levels which was like a 50% increase in total level

[fast grail]

I pray that it does, I will be at top

[gray pagoda]

It's not! He's just being a good guy! Making sure you're in good health, and not getting yourself into sticky situations!

[paper sail]

Just straight up STR helps a lot too as you stack it up. I'm over 100k on all characters now

[vagrant mountain]

100k str?

[paper sail]

100k HP lol

~10k strength

[vagrant mountain]

ok

i was gonna say

thats ridiculous

[tight ridge]

maybe tomorrow my 6 boats get me fury relic

[vagrant mountain]

you only have 6 boats?

[tight ridge]

no i got a bunch but only 6 on mushroom island

[vagrant mountain]

👍

[tight ridge]

i have 16 boats

[dapper prism]

Just be sure to not use sb talent 11, and check in every 4-6 hours

Spread your gold hampters across all alts

[swift pecan]

The sb talent is worth it if you can only check it like every 12 hours though.

[tight ridge]

yeah i learned about the talent late

but now i understand sailing

i check it every 4 hours

[swift pecan]

I run it because i can't check it that often.

[fast grail]

Login to every character every 2 hours for hampter/bubble sailing procs

[tight ridge]

yes i do that

i could get food pouches on everyone to hold more hampters but im too lazy

[fast grail]

If you have doot, claiming every hour is optimal

[dapper prism]

even at 12h i barely find it worth it, since more chests > "chance to maybe upgrade a chest"

[tight ridge]

maybe in 2 years

[fast grail]

Every hour is more hourly clicks

[swift pecan]

It might be, but im just being lazy not wanting to reset my talent points.

[barren otter]

gotta get 100% sailing afk claim chance

[dapper prism]

best time to reset is once u get some good books to max out the main stat talent in tab 1 😄
https://i.imgur.com/TiJeMme.png

[barren otter]

jesus dude

did you max on vmans talent too?

[dapper prism]

yeh

[barren otter]

what did you even drop to afford the points

[dapper prism]

need 4 more max books, 3 for my last archer's talents, then 1 for vman agi

[swift pecan]

I probably will once I get eldritch fury

[barren otter]

think id have to pick only one of the 4 with the pts i have

[dapper prism]

for starters.. you dont spread them like that, that's terrible

[barren otter]

yea i mean i just slapped pts in cause it was only 50 each

[dapper prism]

You max STR, then u max out str on all warris. you reset vman and just max out agi, then your archers. respec vman etc.

[barren otter]

oh wtf

didnt realize itll keep its pts after respeccing vman

[dapper prism]

Everything works like that

[barren otter]

hmm guess i need to prio books on those 4

[vagrant mountain]

they give 2 base stat per point though right?

[dapper prism]

guess while we are at it, the tab 3 talent 8 vials on every class:
https://i.imgur.com/48utVSV.png

You don't max that on the combat preset, you can max it on the skilling tab and it will count on the combat preset

So you could max vial on skilling preset, max the talent on combat, then respec skilling, or just keep it on skilling

[vagrant mountain]

i mean you got 1k points you could just max everything on that page

except top right skill

that one is a trap

[dapper prism]

lol yeh, just guidance for people who dont have like 1k excess points laying around

[vagrant mountain]

fair enough

wish other skills would work like that

[zinc torrent]

Other talent vial on other class work too

[crystal tulip]

How'd you get 293 on those first two?

[barren otter]

slug eldritch fury

[fast grail]

Nah, it gives defense so good

[undone steeple]

is the cat in gaming (kitsune) useful? should I be using/upgrading it?

[crystal tulip]

That only makes 270 (245+25). 🤔

[tidal sky]

is this decent for maestro on exp? or am ai very behind?

[barren otter]

+13 from arctis +10 ES

[crystal tulip]

Thanks. Think I'm not used to seeing it in IE. Always ignore those two when looking at cap since the game doesn't show them there.😂

[fast grail]

There is also the symbol talent in tab 4

Think max rn is something like 310? or 312? Cant remember

[barren otter]

no symbols on vman though

[fast grail]

Ah mb, didnt know it was vman

[crisp silo]

it seems decent enough

[fast grail]

What multi is that?
Don’t remember my last exact number but remember multi

[tidal sky]

hmm already changed his build and equips, but i think it was or 20 or 23

[fast grail]

That’s sounds about right, mine was somewhere around 23 last time I re-trapped

[pearl cedar]

My last one was 49.9m on vman 8 hr traps

Only remember because I wanted 50m

[tidal sky]

damn, so i can at least more than double it, but u must be at very endgame then

[pearl cedar]

Yes to both

[fast grail]

Wonder where all that exp I was missing then…

Guess I need to re-trap on vman and see

[barren otter]

is that with maestro transfusion on?

[pearl cedar]

I still have a few more experience things im missing, mainly some skill mastery, and a couple of achievements i've been to lazy to get

And can push stamp a good bit higher

[fast grail]

Hmm damn, guess I am missing a fuckton

Actually does more base critters give more exp?

[pearl cedar]

Nah

[wispy spire]

hi does king doot bonus work before you made it to world 5?

[fast grail]

Damn its just raw exp multi? Idk how I am missing so much then, cant even get 30m

Actually me left hand is low leveled, so can get some from there

[versed cypress]

you need to actualy unlock divinity and have a level on the char for the bonuses to start working

[still apex]

You need each God for their bonuses

[gentle furnace]

you need lv2 div on your chars

[pearl cedar]

Max transfusion and balance of profficiency? and UE?

[wispy spire]

so i shouldnt use him until i get divinity levelled up?

[versed cypress]

you only need level 2 divinity, you only need to unlock the gods to be able to upgrade their blessings

[gentle furnace]

its passive once you get him

[wispy spire]

im not at world 5 yet

[lusty wedge]

Pets abilities are passive once you get them. Choosing which to follow you is just cosmetic then.

[versed cypress]

once you get doot its passive, so when you reach divinity and get level 2 with your chars it will start to work automaticaly

[wispy spire]

oh

[pearl cedar]

Using golden hams, acorn helm, star sign, wings from pet bundle, uhh lots of things

[wispy spire]

do their bonus stack?

[versed cypress]

you get all the bonuses from all the ocmpanions you have unlocked

but having more than 1 companion of the same type do nothing

[lusty wedge]

What bonuses? Pet bonuses, one you unlock 1 pet with that bonus you get it. More then 1 of the same pet doea nothing

[wispy spire]

i see, thank you

[paper sail]

Late to the party, but my Vman nature traps were over 60m Got some climbing to do. Consider Acorn Hat, Golden Hams, Star Signs, Unending Energy prayer, Balance of Proficiency prayer, Maestro Infusion, medium card set, double Chaotic efaunt, etc. 💪

[pearl cedar]

8 hr traps?

[fast grail]

hmm, ty for reminders, completely forgot about helm and wings

[pearl cedar]

Doubt you're getting 60m on 8 hr traps

[still apex]

Yeah, my bad. That seems stupid OP, he really just went all out on doot, no holds barred

[paper sail]

Oh, psh, no 20hr traps lol

[pearl cedar]

Lol was gonna say I have 115 trapping don't think many people are getting much more exp than me

[paper sail]

Ain't nobody got time to collect traps manually. Sheesh.

[versed cypress]

doot is, op and was released perhaps too soon as it makes the systems really, obsolete to a point, but its out so we deal with it, if you get it good you get a nice boost, if you dont, its just buissness as usual with what you do to progress

[paper sail]

I did indeed forget about the exp wings 😦 Drat

[pearl cedar]

Ah yes manual trap collection of logging in once a day on hunter

[zinc torrent]

https://kingn0thing.idleonefficiency.com/ any suggestions on a way to make my vman stronger? Most my chars are pushing 1-3b dmg and my vman is barely over 200m

[paper sail]

I mean.. If you're only going to collect once, why not use 20hr traps? (and left Rift collect it automatically at that point)

[pearl cedar]

That's normal

[pearl cedar]

Collect once in the morning and let my daily reset collect a second time

[paper sail]

So you get x80 exp instead of x75

Fair enough

[pearl cedar]

My SB has over 100t and my vman probably pushing like 3t

[paper sail]

Yup. Vman is always going to be like 5% of your best lol

[pearl cedar]

Not really sure though haven't meme damaged on vman in a minute but he's on 300b with a crystal build and max looty

[versed cypress]

also remember that vman real dmg is mostly active thanks to the multi punches, which are not reflected int he stat screen

[paper sail]

or in the multikill / afk screen

[versed cypress]

so its likey your vman max active dmg is much higher than you see

but they just fall short massively on the afk front

[pearl cedar]

Its really not that bad now that we're pushing trillions of damage. The difference between like 30x mk and 35x mk isn't crazy

[zinc torrent]

And there is much better options for active farming unless you are trying to push crystal spawns for skills

Yeah my vman has 1/3 the kph of my other chars afk though 😦

[pearl cedar]

Well the lower the damage the bigger difference there will be.

5x mk compared to 10x is a big difference

[fast grail]

Best I can do for now, missing doubling the small 2% skill exp starsign, stamp is only at 39, balence of profieincy only at 32/50, book level of transfusion is 209, only 51k golden hams for a 47% skill exp bonus. Final multi of 30.01x, 50m seems insanely far off getting even close to.

[pearl cedar]

Max out proficiency it is cheap now

[paper sail]

Most prayers pretty cheap now

[fast grail]

Max wave is only 92 for w4, need to actually do another attempt at it

Think last attempt was before atom collidier, or very shortly after

[pearl cedar]

Even still it is going to be cheap with vman buff

Go and balloon w1 td can push worship level quite a bit

[paper sail]

I should have mine Soon ™️ 3 more days to get 95% max discount on Poison tower, then updating best waves again

[fast grail]

Oh, I really need to re-do my TD then, didnt even realize my poison got to 95% . ..

[barren otter]

youll get there i believe in you

[fast grail]

That like a 50x multi?

[tidal sky]

also managed to get 1k+ it is early endgame?

[bold quiver]

i'd say tahts very solid. yeah

[nimble yarrow]

Should I be putting most of my characters on one item in the anvil to get enough material for getting level 13 vials?

[barren otter]

surprisingly not even 30x

[bold quiver]

@tidal sky i'd consider endgame when u start upgrading basicaly all your bubbles with atom and can sustain (even the last ones

[fast grail]

Wait, is that a 20hr trap or 8 hour?

[barren otter]

oh i do 20hr

i figured you were doing 20hr

[fast grail]

Nah, 8hr

[barren otter]

ah that explains it

[tidal sky]

then i still have more to improve on the printing department

[bold quiver]

lets go!

[paper sail]

1k per day was possible before W5 came out. Not super impressive. Where is your Zerg Rushogen prayer?

[tidal sky]

don't have it yet

[bold quiver]

1k laddles per day is already a zone where u will have more laddles than u can spend (cuz of speed limitation)

[paper sail]

wat

[tidal sky]

man, having to do the TD it is just too much work

[barren otter]

damn dude whos out here getting 50mil on 8hrs

[paper sail]

What are you on about with this speed limitation?

[bold quiver]

my dream is that lava fixes TD

[bold quiver]

? cooking is limited by speed '.'

not laddles

[fast grail]

buddha

[paper sail]

You can't just say the same thing over like it explains anything.

[fast grail]

Think best I can do with current state of account will be like 35m per 8hr trap

[bold quiver]

u save like 10-20k laddles, get a ton of speed boost, spend everyting, wait until u ramp your speed again on other sources for another month or so, and repeat

for example, i have 20k laddles stored, but 1 level of a dish is costing 500

there is no point cooking '.'

[paper sail]

There is 0 reason that "1k ladles per day is more than you can spend"

[barren otter]

yea i think im gonna barely cap out at 32mil 50 is wild

[pearl cedar]

Let me check mine lol

[bold quiver]

u will get there eventualy

[vagrant mountain]

protip: you can click and hold your stack of 1k ladles to use them instantly!

[bold quiver]

i mean, cooking has been like that since u get to w4. Save alittle bit of laddles, get speed boost spend all, save laddles, get speed boost, spend.

weird u didnt notice (at least if u are at atom cooking or vmancooking

[vagrant mountain]

on bad days i get ladle > use ladle > log off

[paper sail]

"I choose to follow a particular strategy" is NOT the same as "You can't spend 1k ladles per day"

[nimble yarrow]

Once I get my characters to high enough skill level to use the best tool for that skill is there much point in going beyond? do levels give very much efficiency or does it mostly come from stats?

[bold quiver]

what point of cooking are at? '.'

how many maxed dishes do u have

[vagrant mountain]

stamps

[pearl cedar]

Ah me dum dum

39.9 not 49.9 my bad lol

[paper sail]

You're absolutely missing the point lol

[nimble yarrow]

so just getting it so they can use the best tool is good enough then

[barren otter]

lmao made me think i was severely lacking in trapping xp

[bold quiver]

haha not the point. im explaining how cooking vs laddles work.

[twilit goblet]

finalllllly

[bold quiver]

thats why i asked at what part of cooking u were at, since u are not uinderstanding that

maybe u were early w4

[crisp silo]

now the ancient grind begins

[fast grail]

Ok, thats a little bit more in range, still insane, but not absurd either

[paper sail]

No. You're saying something completely incorrect and then attempting to justify it with completely different words. That isn't how language works.

[pearl cedar]

I mean you are at 51m on a 20 hr trap

[vagrant mountain]

its a good milestone, but you can push further with levels because of stamps

[barren otter]

yea but only 31mil after adding some more skill xp on an 8hr

[bold quiver]

Again, at what part of cooking are u at '.'