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[paper sail]

Soon ™️

[digital sand]

oh rift kills count?

I had no idea

[rustic garnet]

sadly, yes

[digital sand]

damn

[digital sand]

would have been nice to do that before I got to rift 41

[rustic garnet]

yyyyep

[digital sand]

oof

that stings

[paper sail]

I'm on 47 if it makes you feel any better

[digital sand]

a little lol

[paper sail]

🥲

[digital sand]

cant use candy there either rip

[rustic garnet]

how can I tell how close to 90% sample I am?

[vagrant jetty]

I think it shows you when you check construct level

[rustic garnet]

cool

so if I turn of royal sampler and see 90%

I don't need it anymore?

[paper sail]

Impossible, but yes

[rustic garnet]

I hear its not impossible

[paper sail]

Max without sampler is still under 80%

[glacial venture]

at best a dk could reach it

but dont think so

[vagrant jetty]

Maybe with islands coming up

[glacial venture]

but the lost exp is sooooo low

[paper sail]

lost exp?

[glacial venture]

from royal sampler

[paper sail]

Oh. Yeah, doesn't even register in my brain

0.6 oh no

[digital sand]

whats ur guys drop rate at?

finally broke 10x on my es yesterday

[paper sail]

~16x

[glacial venture]

my best is around 11 i think

[digital sand]

nice

[gray pagoda]

What do you guys think the new item is? He said it's ring-based, but I don't see how a trophy looking thing is ring-based.

[digital sand]

could you guys share you obol pages? kind of curious what the best in slot for each size is

[paper sail]

More if I double DR cards instead of crystal

[glacial venture]

my guess....what you said but - "i" ^^

[paper sail]

I'm sad about skill hexes and sparkles becoming useless for me 😢 Can't bring myself to get rid of them

Basic DR for family

[digital sand]

so maxing drop rate in family is the move?

[paper sail]

Generally, yes

[digital sand]

sweet thanks

[paper sail]

Only time you'd change that is for sampling. Toss in 4x Slush and Kruk sparkles

[digital sand]

I dont have a single slush obol lol

[paper sail]

oof

[digital sand]

never got one to drop

I get the worship tool like everytime I swear but no obol lol

[paper sail]

W3 colo is your friend

[hardy quarry]

I'm sure its been said to death, but what's a good map to farm the pop obol?

Alchemy is looking better but my Dr is like 5. Lol

[paper sail]

POP only comes from Gigafrogs

Nochoice

[hardy quarry]

Cool, frogs it is.

[glacial venture]

if you got dr aroud 5 or below....lab is your friend

[hardy quarry]

I need more chips, yeah. I haven't been wanting to spend IRL money on chips so I've just been grabbing them as they pop up on rotation

[sharp wind]

3 more and all done

[glacial venture]

i see no t7

[sharp wind]

[paper sail]

Going above t5?

[sharp wind]

t7 just crazy

[undone steeple]

jesus i didnt think 2m luigi brackets would be so many

[sick sentinel]

time to break out the candies on sb

[undone steeple]

wait what

[sick sentinel]

candy time progresses char production

same for worship

but only that char

[undone steeple]

what the hell

[sick sentinel]

helps in a pinch for scenerios like this

[undone steeple]

helps with a lot of other stuff that i had no idea

[fiery burrow]

What damage minimums should I shoot for before taking on Kattlecruk?

[placid mural]

On what class?

[fiery burrow]

ES is the only one I've actually cleared taht far with

[sick sentinel]

basic kattle doesnt take too much

[restive aspen]

Use DK in w3 arena and you'll get one pretty quickly as long as you've got at least 5 DR on him

[distant oxide]

just got a molten obol on easy cattlekruk...1 in 20k

[coral goblet]

is there another breakpoint?

for 7 hr

[granite grove]

every 40 level iirc

[coral goblet]

so 8 more levels damn my max is 220 for now

close

[gray pagoda]

Can't get Eldritch?

[undone steeple]

bruh i just spent like 56hrs in candy and it only got me to like 200k lugi

goddamn lol

rip all my candies

[sick sentinel]

oof, did you 3x lugi brackets and have the big bubble on?

[undone steeple]

yea i have sheepie

i even reset my points and put it all in product speed

[sick sentinel]

😅

[undone steeple]

damn

[sick sentinel]

at least you have 4-5 days left lol

whats your speed

[willow drum]

get all your characters anvil points maxed out, then use atoms on anvil speed and swap everyone to lugi brackets

[sour flare]

Wtf is actually with this stupid damn pong lag

[gray pagoda]

4-5 days for what?

[lime kite]

Chip reset.

[gray pagoda]

Ah. What's next? I don't really follow the chips. I'm just waiting for December

[coral goblet]

im trying but gotta hit it lol

[gray pagoda]

Lol. I'm currently in rift 11, so I'm not very close.

[glad mountain]

was the magma pants always 1m mats?

[sick sentinel]

vncnn is trying to get the starsign one that is in the shop currently, they're grinding the lugi brackets

[sour flare]

Somebody got to have some cheese for this pong game, I'm being unreasonably angry, it's like playing fn wii mario kart when I was 6

[sick sentinel]

so they have 5 days to get enough

[sour flare]

Just I can't bite the wii mote

[willow drum]

git gud

[sour flare]

I know bro but this is tilting the fuck out of me

[tall dirge]

advice like dps requirments ect for nightmare kattle and getting his caper?

[gray pagoda]

Ah, ok

[sick sentinel]

get dmg, get drop rate, get cape

[tall dirge]

kinda dps will i need

[sick sentinel]

what char?

[tall dirge]

they are all up to atleast the boss room

[fast grail]

nm vman needs like 300b for just autoing, 30-50b is like a 20-25 min run

otherclasses idk, was able to auto on all and they killed the moles

[tall dirge]

why would I or anyone do nightmare with vman lol

[fast grail]

because you have to . .. ?

If you want divine scarf at least

[sick sentinel]

dk, es, bubo are kinda just auto and kill. what dmg do you have on those. if u want to try and get the trophy dont forget to do the npc quest for the cape to count as a drop towards that step.

[glad mountain]

cus you always should do bosses with vman

[gray thicket]

Is this rare?

I hope it is rare

Dang

[buoyant valley]

rare enough

[sick sentinel]

its pretty rare, but doesnt really help

[tall dirge]

does it matter what i mean say bubo is up to the quest for cape, does that mean only bubo will get the cape drop ?

[gray thicket]

[sick sentinel]

cape can drop anytime

[tall dirge]

@glad mountain why

[glad mountain]

highest dr and 2x drops

[tall dirge]

yesterday did a chaotic on my ES but wasn't 30 seconds or quicker

[sick sentinel]

but if you want to get the trohpy from the npc you need to have teh cape drop while on the last step

[fast grail]

52m for W6, 273m for W7 , 1.3B for W8

[sick sentinel]

i dont think the 2x drops work on world bosses, would be nice for confirmation tho

[tall dirge]

dk has 1000m damage but it took ages on him as well

[glad mountain]

mh true i take that part back

[tall dirge]

thats chatoic nvm like nightmare

[fast grail]

1b damage is no where near enough to do nm kattle healthly

[buoyant valley]

even at 10b dmg it isnt too viable

[glad mountain]

also i heard someone say you gotta have the scarf on for the quest to count?

[fast grail]

To do it in a normal amount of time, I would say at minimum 100b

[sick sentinel]

you can put the scarf on after

[willow drum]

you can pass scarf around for quest

cape has to drop on the character for the quest

[tall dirge]

i done all maps how do i get more damage? w5 weapons?

[glad mountain]

oh great

ty

[willow drum]

alchemy

[sick sentinel]

alchemy, sailing, cooking, greenstacks, stamps

[tall dirge]

https://truitytoops.idleonefficiency.com what should i be aiming at

[fast grail]

Unlocking bubbles

And actually leveling them

[unborn pond]

your stamps are super neglected

[tall dirge]

stamps dont do a whole lot i feel like

[fast grail]

Actually last updated 5/15, update

[dapper prism]

Everything ads up and stamps are also easy to level, some stamps become core for later game too

[tall dirge]

https://truitytoops.idleonefficiency.com here is the updated

[fast grail]

Nah, did you click upload in public profile?

[lime kite]

It looks old.

[tall dirge]

https://truitytoops.idleonefficiency.com

hmmm looks old to me as well

i just took that screenshot though

[unborn pond]

its because we clicked on it before he updated so we need to wait a minute

[sick sentinel]

yeah link aint updating sadly, happens when you share it before updating sometimes

[glad mountain]

just clear it out of the cache?

[tall dirge]

yeah rip lol ill let you know if it does update

[uncut condor]

Recently trying to fix my refinery. Do not auto refine red lol

[sick sentinel]

link to omni on all the chars you can afford to to help with salts

[fast grail]

Green and red should never be auto-refined

only up

[lean niche]

how many dust motes do you need for multitool 210 with both gilded and the 90% is it 415m?

[fast grail]

Different for everyone, there is sigil, artifact affecting sigil, vial, and vial mastery to be consdiered

Although I will say, that is almost exactly what it cost for me . ..

[lean niche]

thats with full discount

[digital sand]

wow

[dapper prism]

Nvm, realized my issue was storage

[fast grail]

Indeed

[lean niche]

i been working on it last couple weeks can hold 381m atm

[fast grail]

Not sure how much I can actually hold . ..

[dapper prism]

ie shows

[tall dirge]

why is multiptool stamp considered could when the minor link bonuses that does the same sucks ?

[fast grail]

Multitool is not scaled eff

its all eff

[sick sentinel]

the minor link scales lower the more eff you have

[tall dirge]

ohhh

[dapper prism]

Also the other one doesn't necessarily suck

[sick sentinel]

its still good, just not as good

[dapper prism]

Its a blessing not a Minor, so it's still a permanent passive to own

[tall dirge]

lmfao final troll boss task to some how get and spend 600 keys on non skill eff card

[lean niche]

wtb more inv slots lol

may have to go back to lvln mason jar up catching lvls and stamp expensive

[sick sentinel]

Got all bags and gemshop purchaces?

[fast grail]

WWhat level is your jar?

[lean niche]

mines 112

[fast grail]

Wow, much higher than mine, need to work on mine eventually. . .

[vagrant jetty]

Is the production speed bubble multiplicitive or additive

[bold quiver]

soon

ive thoughtabout it, and there isnt a reason to go for mining speed if i can already reach cap right o.o

[dapper prism]

Pretty much unless Expedition or something says new cap of skill speed is higher 😄

[fast grail]

Cards for speed pretty much only for set bonus

[hollow wasp]

how can i calculate how long this takes?

their lvls are 32 and 35

[dreamy spruce]

2 days

pretty sure its just 1 per day per char if you havent bought the gem upgrades

[hollow wasp]

never what

i didnt wait 250 days for that

[dapper prism]

Its 1 per hour

[unborn pond]

its 1 xp per hour per character no?

[hollow wasp]

i dont even play so much

[sick sentinel]

IE tells you the timers for sigils, but wiyh no other bonusrs 1 hr

[dapper prism]

But yeh check IE or Toolbox for time

[dreamy spruce]

ohh okay that makes way more sense

[hollow wasp]

thanks 2 per hour seems more correct

i see, ty

the second upgrade from this is max right? like a sigil can be unlocked, and once upgraded

[dapper prism]

Yes

[hollow wasp]

k thanks

[dapper prism]

But you skip that on most things

[hollow wasp]

the base stats, they are +10 unlocked, how much upgraded?

[dapper prism]

It's always double

[hollow wasp]

ye doing that rn. i just unlock one after another

[dapper prism]

Unless artifact, that increases stuff even more

With eldritch artifact my bgase stat stuff is +80

[hollow wasp]

oh wow

[dapper prism]

Main goal is Sigil 13

I really hope expeditions has something that increases sigil speed properly

[stiff prairie]

What does sigil 13 do?

[dapper prism]

Sigil speed

(with eldritch artifact for better sigils)
https://i.imgur.com/turTJQ2.png

[stiff prairie]

Ahh. yeah that's a bit one.
I'm grinding 11 rn

Well, 11 and 7

[tall dirge]

huh still hasnt updated i give up

[dapper prism]

Yeh 7 is good

[stiff prairie]

What hasn't updated printer?

[dapper prism]

His IE

[stiff prairie]

Ahh....
Yeah IE doesn't update well

I tend to have to go into player screen and then rejoin, even then it doesn't always work

[dapper prism]

Player screen should work (for personal update), but meant the public profile he wanted to share

[tall dirge]

did lava make ie or it ? or they ran by other people ?

[dapper prism]

Everything is ran by other people

[fast grail]

That IE just updated for me actually

[fast grail]

Missing 3 the strongest %total damage stamps, need to get those

[tall dirge]

i just got the instagram one after uploading lol

[fast grail]

You . .. . you have a level 50 divinity char, you can get multi-tool stamp

[sick sentinel]

oh is multitool 50? i thought it was 80 for some reason

[fast grail]

just doubled checked myself since its been a few months

[sick sentinel]

wow thats even easier

[tall dirge]

you mean steves swords ill go grab the mulritool now

i cant see it being good for combat though lol

[fast grail]

Missing diamond axe stamp, thats from w4

Lol nah, just something you need, one of the strongest sampling stamps which will eventually help with increasing damage

[tall dirge]

ifc

ofc*

[fast grail]

The final bubble of each cauldron gives a monstrous amount of damage if you can level them

[sick sentinel]

and can try 90% off tags, can get some levels depening on cost reduction sources

if they dont have the mats

[fast grail]

Oh yeah, i forget 90% tags exist, need to make sure you are just using those everydau since your alchemy is so low its possible to use them

Eventually is fully impossible to use them, so use them while you can

[sick sentinel]

and also lab is showing off for most everything, def want that connected

[dapper prism]

Lava on, lets get an update!

[fast grail]

last beta was 17 hours ago, thats a good sign for update today

If consant updates, that means lots of bugs and might not come out

[tall dirge]

captial p quests are annyoing

someone should make runelite for idelon

[rustic garnet]

He'll stretch it over 2 more weeks

10 more content blog posts

and he'll time it with a new companion rotation

queue uproar

[fast grail]

Nah, just another entirely separate server-side currency

[rustic garnet]

RED gems 😄

[ancient mirage]

I hope we get an update today I need something to make progress or I'm going to go insane

[pine pond]

E

[stoic verge]

Whats this gonna be like?

New companions with new bonuses?

[rustic garnet]

I was joking

[stoic verge]

Ooh

[rustic garnet]

I think it's be the fastest way to flush the rest of the on the fence players down the toilet

[tranquil sedge]

Ah bugger me the idleon megaguide is gone

[rustic garnet]

yep

[tranquil sedge]

Though I can't really

Blame them for having more decisiveness then I do

[rustic garnet]

There is a backup someone made, but it's a bit of a 'bad faith' thing as the people who created and maintainted it said 'we don't want this to be visible anymore'

[dapper prism]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[rustic garnet]

there is a companion guide in place of their old guide

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/c6c3aa470e6a7961458aeb2520a48f1d.png

feels good to have this at 100%

[tranquil sedge]

Honestly I can respect that tbh

[rustic garnet]

How do you use the 'cogtimizier'?

[pulsar heart]

just failed on level 4 snail and reset to 0...

[untold saffron]

why'd you do that, seems a bit silly

[rustic garnet]

yip, Snail is one of the least well done additions, it's required to progress and when it fails you are sitting at crapola

[sharp wind]

Is it 100% with vial bonus or 100% without bonus?

[untold saffron]

with vial bonuses

like 26 maxed?

[fast grail]

Its like 26 or 27 iirc

[sharp wind]

Do you know the base?

[dapper prism]

only possible to get with vial bonus

[sharp wind]

Ohh i see thanks

[sharp wind]

Did u farm them or better just to print with vman?

[untold saffron]

I'd say its better to just print with vman

[dapper prism]

print with vman is ezpz for all vials

Just get like 4-5 vial mats on vman and change them once u get them all done

[untold saffron]

critters are gonna be the biggest pain

[sharp wind]

Probably ill do it when i have more damage with vman

[sly plank]

at what point is w4 crit chance card set better than boss set for active farming?

[untold saffron]

working on nails too now that I've finished thread

[tall dirge]

spent 15 minutes on captial p quest what other stamps did you say to get ? or what other stuff

[dapper prism]

Just get them ALL

[sharp wind]

I think never

[dapper prism]

and never worry about it again

[rustic garnet]

Wonder if we'll get a name change on this post office box?

[sharp wind]

Boss set always better

[untold saffron]

no it'll just cost blue gems, non predatory

[sharp wind]

I never even used crit chance set bonus

[sly plank]

oh awesome, thanks

[dapper prism]

Chizoar - > Troll -> (automatically/insta Magma tbh)

[rustic garnet]

It entirely depends on how you can achieve 200% crit

[tall dirge]

whats this that upgrades diamond axe stamp ?

[sharp wind]

I guess so but it goes up quickly with meals and star talent iirc

[rustic garnet]

I had the crit chance set on for a brief period while I worked my crit chance around floams

then I rocketed to way more crit, dropped the prayer and dropped the card set as everyone could get 200% easily

[sly plank]

hmm, I only have 130 crit chance without set

[rustic garnet]

There is an incredibly brief period where crit chance is needed

[sly plank]

with prayer

[sharp wind]

Well yeah i guess its situational

[rustic garnet]

There is also a period where mastery is better than anything

[sharp wind]

Tho dmg xp dr from card set more juicy looking

[fast grail]

Hmm, so is the pinnacle glove a +1 slot, +3 wis, and double kruk stone?

[rustic garnet]

chizoar legs+mastery from one card will give you 40% more one shot ability

[dapper prism]

Time to spend 10mins to 1+ hour using up my chems..
https://i.imgur.com/mhWrY6D.png

Always fun/annoying

Any bets on a new nugget?

[rustic garnet]

looks like I am going to nearly 70% increase my build raid with the cogtimizer! wowsa

That is CRAZY!

is that 20 flower spaces Trickz?

[dapper prism]

Just dont follow it 1 to 1 as often times it messes stuff up

[rustic garnet]

does it?

[dapper prism]

Yeh, especially if you have gem cogs

[tall dirge]

how do i excatly beat wurm catacombs been stuck on it for long enough

[rustic garnet]

Are you following the guide Blas?

[dreamy spruce]

is cogtimizer mainly for when you're playing cogclicker or when you have a lot of directionals?

[rustic garnet]

dunno! first try with it

I certainly would describe my cogs as 'very end game cog'

[dapper prism]

Also, sometimes redoing cogtimizer after you did it, the outcome can be better again xD

[sick sentinel]

cogtimizer can be fine early/mid but you really just want to work towards the late game setup

[barren otter]

I tested it with late game setups

it's okay

can get better xp/hr doing it manually

it like can't handle properly facing directionals

[rustic garnet]

It's clearly not perfect

but in this setup it suggested, I get more build and cog rate

and the build rate igoes up a lot... so I will see

[dapper prism]

Most important thing is XP rate on the hero itself

[sick sentinel]

exp is the only stat that really matters

doesnt cogtimizer not understand some exp directional cogs

or was it something else

[barren otter]

yup

it messes up 1 sided directional cogs

almost all the time

full vertical and horizontal it does fine though

[dapper prism]

If u have gem cogs, easiest is to setup everything manually., then in these 2 areas just fill in all your base xp% ones, if you're like me, place them in order first. I did highest at top, lowest at bottom, and now im replacing them from the bottom up when I get new ones.
https://i.imgur.com/S1GrWMR.png

[rustic garnet]

This looks pretty robust to me?

[dapper prism]

Thats terrible

[rustic garnet]

Why is it terrible?

[tall dirge]

makes no sense why you people only have 1 or 2 people on the field

why

[rustic garnet]

Blas, it 100% does...

[sick sentinel]

it does tho, only chars that should eventually be on the board are squires

[dapper prism]

Pretty sure ive told you this, it's to maximize xp on the 2 squires, everything else is irrelevant

[sick sentinel]

you want to produce cogs constantly for best exp roles on base cogs and directionals

[rustic garnet]

I think I'm missing one vertical xp% cog btw trickz, so having 1 non vertical is pertty normal

[tall dirge]

iwhat is your build rate?

[rustic garnet]

177M

[tall dirge]

hmm

[dapper prism]

Meta:
https://i.imgur.com/uw8SFSh.png

[rustic garnet]

And yours Blas?

[tall dirge]

well ive only got one mega cog

(exodia

[rustic garnet]

Trickz, I think that's ALMOST what I have, why would the big ones be there?

Is it to give the most extra room?

[dapper prism]

Just for clean overview

[rustic garnet]

My suspicion is hat it gives the most directional leverage

[tall dirge]

theres a 5 by 6 grid of shitty cogs lmao

[rustic garnet]

As in..... You can get the most extra weird stuff in the big spots that way

[dreamy spruce]

cant have directionals onto squires from there

[rustic garnet]

Blas, what's wrong with a 5x6 of 'shitty' cogs?

I think you may not understand the reasons behind a lot of this and are making strong statements

there are some very good reasons to this

[tall dirge]

put like 4 more characters in that zone and any bonuse cogs that are extra can point at them

[rustic garnet]

waste of effort, frankly

they are not squires

[dapper prism]

Then you lose EXP/h

[frozen prairie]

they dont have the bonuses that squires have

[dapper prism]

Build Rate itself is irrelevant on cogs

[rustic garnet]

squires are going to give you the biggest boost as you want EXP/hour on your squires

there are a TON of reasons here

[sick sentinel]

you want to funnel all the exp on squire, levels in them is all your build rate

[dapper prism]

All you want is XP EXP EXP XP

[rustic garnet]

it's very complicated, but the point is

[sick sentinel]

so fewer chars is more exp for squires

[rustic garnet]

the higher yoru con level the higher your build speed

[dreamy spruce]

exp exp exp isnt that complicated imo

[dapper prism]

Most your BR will come from:
https://i.imgur.com/XpZxB92.png

[tall dirge]

why ?

[dapper prism]

I just said..

[rustic garnet]

Because you have more Exp% cogs!

[dreamy spruce]

because instead of 0% exp its a 50% exp cog

[dapper prism]

You wont have XP cogs in those spots if you have alts

[rustic garnet]

See my cogs? every 'shitty' cog is 66% exp or higher

that makes my squire exp go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[viral snow]

Looks solid

[tall dirge]

ohh i see

[willow drum]

whats the exp on your squire

[barren otter]

this is your trimmed speed im guessing?

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/LXoi6kd.png

[tall dirge]

ahh crap

[rustic garnet]

This is my speed on a non squire

I'm on my active farmer

one sec...

[willow drum]

my bob isn't being pumped

[heavy patrol]

Is king doot glitched? My gf is getting like 350+ divinity orbs a day to use towards leveling skills to 50

[dapper prism]

whats your bob at?

[heavy patrol]

The flutterbis god doesn't show it would give that many haha

[chrome tiger]

no release yet?

[dreamy spruce]

its just 1 whenever you lvl up a skill after lvl 50 @heavy patrol

[willow drum]

it's in beta

[dapper prism]

Doubt its 350? But its 1 per level up per skill above 50. with 10 chars, construction, anvil, gaming/sailing and passive stuff like that it does give a bunch of orbs

[tall dirge]

whats a decent bonus con xp from a cog?

[clear quartz]

i need to get the collider thing unlocked, although i guess i wont be able to do particle spending any time soon

[rustic garnet]

I'm not trying to show off my number here, I'm trying to improve my stuff really that's it

Blas -- it depends on where youa re at!

[heavy patrol]

Her skills aren't leveling that much though is the weird thing but she claims a ton each time she checks her characters daily

[dapper prism]

That's a low bob 😮

[rustic garnet]

In my setup, 66% is my lowest, I've got this through time and pressure on getting good stuff

[rustic garnet]

I'm limited here 😦

[dapper prism]

I just atom'd mine the past 3-4 days, at 586 atm.

[heavy patrol]

She used 750 orbs yesterday and still has 300+

[rustic garnet]

I've got no specific atomize focus

[dreamy spruce]

1 account wide skill like sailing or gaming is 10 orbs

[rustic garnet]

should I bob bboom?

I see many things I need to push in alchemy still

[plush spear]

Where the best place to farm SB flag?

[heavy patrol]

Might be it then, gaming and such

[dapper prism]

That was my issue, besides maybe focusing skilling stuff for better ore sample. I just did bob for now. might go for 1k bob

[rustic garnet]

hmm

I want to resample

so I may be focusing sampling for a bit

[fast grail]

When in doubt, fmj

[rustic garnet]

I am close to having enough lumber books spent to resample all my wood

[dreamy spruce]

Citringes

[dapper prism]

Last time i resampled i went from 300m to 800m xD
But my ore is still underleveled. I am tempted to push purple bubbles a little more so i hit 1T next time, although not as efficient to balancing out my very low Mining ones. Also a bit lazy for the resamples atm. Just felt Bob overall for an early push would be nice and beneficial since XP is time gated.

[frozen prairie]

800m > 1T o.o

[rustic garnet]

800m is fine, it will xxx into 1t

true speed is way higher than listed anyway

[dreamy spruce]

would be a huge increase yeah

[dapper prism]

Ohh i just got that hat yesterday!!!!

The Idle Skilling one 😄

So that may help my next samples

[dapper prism]

Meant Bil

[frozen prairie]

idk why but million to trillion was funny to me xD

I assumed so

[rustic garnet]

My resample would bring me to about 130M base

[tall dirge]

that 5th spot worth ?

[dreamy spruce]

damn thats a lot of boosing, not even lab bonus

[rustic garnet]

5th spot? definitely

That is with lab bonu

[dreamy spruce]

isnt yellow without

[rustic garnet]

star and yellow is lab+god bonus

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/6fu1Fru.png

[rustic garnet]

yeah

way better for sure

but I'm at a point here

where my resample would be a small boost

[dreamy spruce]

ohh IE is diff from ingame

[rustic garnet]

60->going to 130

but this is my multi

[frozen prairie]

i want doot for 6x prints aa

[rustic garnet]

So if I resample right now, I actually come out net neutral in total

and would need to wait like 30 days before it boosts

my PLAN

[tall dirge]

oh dam mine hasn't got pasted 1.15 #early days

[rustic garnet]

I have a plan....

I am going to wait for islands

see if it helps sample, build my tree books, and focus on a tree resample

I'd do all samples, of course, but trees will hopefully go from 50 to 300/400 after I get all the books

[dapper prism]

Get Effy and Active talent on all mages then warris

[crude zephyr]

c

[barren otter]

d

[rustic garnet]

@dapper prism I've followed your pattern, it looks nice

Now I'll regen with the tool

[placid mural]

https://tenor.com/view/matthew-mcconaughey-true-detective-smoking-staring-rust-cohle-gif-17891875

me waiting for update to come out of beta

[runic girder]

Soon

[rustic garnet]

Is there a way to reload the cogtmiizer?

[placid mural]

*we hope

[rustic garnet]

It's got the old setup still

is it connected to the IE stuff?

[dapper prism]

Yup, then just remember:

• The ones with an X get hit by gem cogs, so put highest BR ones there. Specifically the right 2.
• The 4 corners (like the circle and 3x's if you have the circle one in each slot its fine, else also highest BR.
• The orange area (plus the 4 in the bottom right) i liked to organize by XP % value, highest on top, lowest on bottom, which makes it very easy to replace your worst ones for a while.
  https://i.imgur.com/RUBEScx.png

[barren otter]

cloud save so IE updates

[rustic garnet]

oh nice

[barren otter]

refresh IE then copy raw data again

then reload cogtimizer

paste

[rustic garnet]

ahh ok

Would there be a legit chance that my directional BRs could boost my total BBR ?

Like, what is this? It suggetss it can nearly DOUBLE my BR now

[dapper prism]

Essentially, all directionals should have player XP, but until you can replace it you use BR instead of XP

[rustic garnet]

how is that even possible?

[dreamy spruce]

build rate directionals? like your yellow ones bottom right

[dapper prism]

That seems steep, although it is normal to lose a bunch of BR when people switch to EXP cogs and have nothing setup

[rustic garnet]

It suggests my EXP is higher this way

feels like something must be wrong

[dapper prism]

Check the X's
https://i.imgur.com/iInSX7C.png

And make sure that the stronger directional is hitting both squires

[rustic garnet]

they should be, I will double check

[dapper prism]

compared to the non-x

[rustic garnet]

hmmm they weren't

[dapper prism]

Time for me to stop neglecting my alts.
https://i.imgur.com/HVbmqWC.png

[tall dirge]

so much wisdom

[rustic garnet]

I must have been sloppy moving

[tall dirge]

😮 do a reveal vid on those drops!

[barren otter]

keep in mind cogtimizer wont show an "EXP" gain

if youre mostly adding directional cogs

[tall dirge]

you leave em afk for the box bonus ?

[barren otter]

you have to check your actual player xp before and after

[rustic garnet]

I think I need to roll for more EXP directionals anyway

[tall dirge]

21% afk cash if 36hr +

[dapper prism]

Just been a bit busy with idle skilling and had nothing to do on alts anyways, dk was active farming wurms the whole time. Although I should have claimed my vman 4d print talent

[dreamy spruce]

sounds very unlikely

[dapper prism]

afk cash is nothing

Most money comes from online grind

Money my DK made online in that time:
https://i.imgur.com/7zbxiJ2.png

[tall dirge]

surely bubo is a better killer of wurms ?

[dapper prism]

Money my Bubo made offline:
https://i.imgur.com/2WuNLy8.png

[dreamy spruce]

damn crystals really are insane

[tall dirge]

dk is running round for a reswpn bubo is just insanity

[dapper prism]

huh? dk statues kill everything too and has insta respawn?
obviously not as quick as bubo but dk has dr/money/xp buff

[signal osprey]

Bubo is better for money but not by a whole lot because the orb acts as a money multi and you can easily get like 900 orbs on wurms

[dapper prism]

Where DK is also better for keys and XP

[echo crag]

you maxed Purrmep blessing yet Trick ?

[dapper prism]

No and why, sailing speed won't do much for me atm

[signal osprey]

You max it because bigger numbers are better than smaller numbers

[rustic garnet]

grrr

white screen of death while pumping cog rolls

[tall dirge]

you guys every level up pickle jar for any reason at all ?

[dapper prism]

Yeh, for the lolz i buy it when i remember (does take 100 days)

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/aBgTV17.png

[rustic garnet]

Nice!

[signal osprey]

Cant wait for expeditions to have an island that adds another tier to artifacts

[sick sentinel]

more max book lvl

[barren otter]

lvl 80 meal max

lets go

wooo

[dapper prism]

Oh god no.. just finished maxing nearly all my important books 😦

[signal osprey]

Then you should want a new max

[echo crag]

im really hopping lava doesnt increase book lvl anyore lol

[signal osprey]

Why max mediocre talents when you can max the good ones instead

[barren otter]

whats your book count at now contract

[dapper prism]

Took your advice, went from lvl 85 to 97 purrmep and spent like 12k blue coins.. pricey af xD

[glacial venture]

maxxing out book lvl is all fun and game...but any more lvls and i run out of points^^

[dreamy spruce]

just pump talent point bubble then

[dapper prism]

I hate how prices arnt displayed right
Like is this 243, 343, 443.... blue coins?
https://i.imgur.com/vVJb7Oi.png

[dreamy spruce]

might as well just max all talents on 1 preset

[echo crag]

from the wiki purrmep is a 30k godshard coin lol, i know it would have personally trigger my completist ocd wit hthe kind of money you get from your dk lol

[signal osprey]

This is the timer. Havent actually started saving them yet but I think I might start soon. Still have like 5 or 6 more things I want to book first

[tall dirge]

what about like 40 books is that a thing at some point ?

[barren otter]

damn i thought my 0>20 was good

yours is almost half of mine...

[dreamy spruce]

looks like it starts with a 4 but im not in the overflowing cash part yet

[signal osprey]

I hit 40+ books all the time

I'm too lazy to book every 5 hours

[barren otter]

im too lazy to book every 9.5 hrs...

[rough geyser]

Question on Gaming. Can plants evolve to 5th stage for first time using the Kitsune speed Import? Trying to get my 5th stage evolves on plants that still haven't gotten it for the the bonus.

[barren otter]

LOL

[sick sentinel]

could be 4000 godshard

[dreamy spruce]

godshard is blue coin?

[tall dirge]

where;d you check your 0 > 20 ??

[signal osprey]

Dashboard on IT

[sick sentinel]

this is for max?

[tall dirge]

yeah only started using it the other day much cleaner for a lot of things compared to ie

[dapper prism]

I hope we get higher currency soon so numbers arnt inviisble

[echo crag]

31k godshard coin for 300% sail speed

[tall dirge]

0 to 20 books in:

01d:00h:11m

[signal osprey]

Yeah I never know how much money I have any more unless I check IE

Its kind of annoying

[dapper prism]

especially when wanting to spend/upgrade things

[barren otter]

at this rate he'd have to add more than just 1 new coin

[signal osprey]

Yeah I need two coins

[dapper prism]

10k is already 2 coins? so easily 3+ coins soon

[echo crag]

i dont rmemeber, was there an ore after godshard in IS ?

[rough geyser]

Haven't run into IT yet. What's full name?

[signal osprey]

Yeah there was a few more after godshard

[coral goblet]

how big of a boost is this actually

feel like when i upgrade max vials i dont notice big gains

[tall dirge]

Idelon tookbox @rough geyser there you go IJ !

[signal osprey]

It adds up to a pretty good boost

[solid python]

this worth getting?

[dapper prism]

It helps, things like Snake will reach 100% double statue deposite and stuff

[dapper prism]

Everything is worth getting, no reason not to..

[solid python]

well if it uses up my spices it would be bad

need them for bubbles

[dreamy spruce]

400 is fine to use

[sick sentinel]

get all jewels eventually

you'll get more spices

[coral goblet]

mine are looking pretty good now still working on some that are easier to get

[dapper prism]

You want all jewels, specifically easy ones, that way you could gem-force a hard one or the last 1-2 if they are far away in the cycle

[solid python]

okay

[tall dirge]

@coral goblet that ltitle crown mean they max level ?

[solid python]

thanks

[coral goblet]

yeah

[dapper prism]

Also, 3 kitchen levels a day for free is nice:
https://i.imgur.com/fpOubON.png

[opal gust]

how do i kill nightmare krattle with blood beserker, whichever side i'm not on the healing mobs get through

[solid python]

oh so it doesnt use spices

then that's great

[dreamy spruce]

it does, just not that many

[solid python]

? why doesnt it say that then

[dapper prism]

Thought the jewel upgraded them for free? then again spice becomes a no-issue very quick

[dreamy spruce]

I thought he meant buying the jewel haha mb

[solid python]

nah I just meant the auto upgrade lol

[signal osprey]

Run to the other side and kill them before they get through

[solid python]

that's good then I'll get it for sure

very helpful

[quiet pewter]

focus on killing moles, only hit boss when no moles

either that or get like 200B dmg so your dps > healing

[dapper prism]

The same as vman pretty much, save your BB aoe similar to vman aoe.
VID HERE:
#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[quiet pewter]

exciting news! island expedition update is not out!

[paper sail]

Wow, I had no idea R did that

I was using WASD for movement, but still toggling Auto once I was on top of the moles

Multiplies. 4x

[barren otter]

wheres your kruk gloves...

[paper sail]

The whip efficiency is impressive though

[rustic garnet]

Getting my cogs on

Trickz, what is your min %xp cog in the crap spots?

[dapper prism]

Meh, was only for merit tasks. Had enough luck on the other chars

[barren otter]

but the +1 slab

[dapper prism]

57-58% (except for the 2 in the bottom left 51/53 that i forget about)

[rustic garnet]

you not fussed?

[paper sail]

You're not baiting me into breaking my Cons Obol snapshot, fiend

[rustic garnet]

you could easily get those to 70s-80s

[dapper prism]

I already have it, didnt at the tiem

[barren otter]

ah

[rustic garnet]

you could put your 2 speedy boys in the cog production spot

and fire out 1000s in a few minutes

[dapper prism]

My average cogs hit 60-70s im still lvl 350's on my squires

[rustic garnet]

and get 80s in each

fair enough

[dapper prism]

Oh to lazy to spam the cog crap non stop, xD

[rustic garnet]

fair

I'm going for min 80% now

[paper sail]

Maybe if we had a "delete all cogs from the inventory"

[dreamy spruce]

not a cog clicker enjoyer?

[paper sail]

Takes longer deleting them all than creating them

[dapper prism]

If i could toggle trash with Shift click it would be great. but annoying when you get a directional and feel forced to check for player xp

[rustic garnet]

WOAH

[dapper prism]

Gz

[barren otter]

damn

i need to get my squire to 400+ to get higher xp thresholds

[rustic garnet]

I've just got my 3 highest xp% cogs ever in like 30 seconds... wtf?

[barren otter]

these 75s im getting aint cutting it anymore

[rustic garnet]

within 30 seconds:

[barren otter]

what was your squires max nate?

[dapper prism]

idk but are there breakpoints for lvls vs xp?

[barren otter]

breakpoints i have no idea

but higher max squire level does correlate to higher xp chances on cogs

[rustic garnet]

max what Herus?

[coral goblet]

[dapper prism]

Gz now delete it xD

[pulsar condor]

yo where are bone poops

[barren otter]

your highest cons lvl

[coral goblet]

[paper sail]

Get that crap out of here

[rustic garnet]

439 level

[barren otter]

ok im only 40 lvls behind not bad

[dapper prism]

W1, sewer last zone, hidden door top right of poop boss, need the pliers from gmush

[rustic garnet]

These sorts of cogs are the weird ones...

like, is the loss of 20% bonus exp worth the build rate for my trash section?

[paper sail]

No.

[barren otter]

not at all

[paper sail]

Build Rate is never better than EXP at this stage in the game. Absolutely no question, no contest

[rustic garnet]

fair

I'm just spamming for a few vertical player con ones

and these are all coming up before them

[barren otter]

isnt your carpenter lvl pretty decent too?

get your build rate from that

[dapper prism]

I need to force my nblb more onto carpenter

[paper sail]

My NBLB keeps skipping Carpenter and getting me the 16-25 range bubbles instead

I'm getting ticked. Has happened 5 or 6 days in a row now and it is only 2-3 days from atom range

[dapper prism]

It's not an instead, that's not how the 16-25 works

Each color has a 15%* chance to hit a 16-25 bubble, individual chance. Which isn't based on your other NBLB's

[paper sail]

Then why hasn't my carpenter increased in levels despite being my lowest?

[dapper prism]

Double check your IE?

[dapper prism]

I was pretty sure it shouldnt remove from base nblb?

[rustic garnet]

another white screen of death 😦

[dreamy spruce]

I guess you just keep hitting the 16-25 bubbles

[dapper prism]

https://i.imgur.com/hQblnQb.png

[rustic garnet]

Making cogs is clearly not intended by Lava

[paper sail]

No make, only trash

[signal osprey]

The way nblb prioritization works means that the orange cauldron gets the short end of the stick usually so if you have multiple bubbles across different cauldrons at the same level orange is usually prioritized last

But given the numbers you just posted I believe carpenter should be hit in the next proc as there are no more bubbles at 193 outside of the orange cauldron

[dapper prism]

So the 15% 16-25 does remove from the 10x NBLB daily cap?

[signal osprey]

Well yeah

You get 10 bubbles no matter what

If you proc lithium then it adds 16-25 into the pool

So if those bubbles are in the 120's while your other bubbles are in the 190's then it will focus the 120's because they are lower

[barren otter]

contract is it true higher cons level = higher xp cogs? and are there breakpoints

[paper sail]

Uhhh so keep the non-orange above my carpenter level is the gist, to help ensure Carpenter gets hit?

[signal osprey]

Yes the max level scales with con level and no there are not break points that I'm aware of

[unreal fox]

!ie

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleonefficiency.com/ Unofficial 3rd party site made by Sludger#6559

[signal osprey]

Basically yeah

Its my understanding that nblb starts at orange 1 and then moves up the rest of the cauldron and each time it comes across a bubble at or below the level of the current lowest bubble it chooses that as the new upgrade target

After reaching the last bubble in orange cauldron it moves to green and repeats the process

[quiet pewter]

that gif is perfect metaphor...the fuck is that animal thou

[signal osprey]

So if two bubbles are tied in level orange usually gets replaced by bubbles in later cauldrons as its the cauldron that gets checked first

[paper sail]

What a horrible design 🤦

[dapper prism]

Looks like a big-brain fish 😄

[glacial venture]

greenstacking blood bones sucks.....

[signal osprey]

Well overall it still works the same more or less and your minimum level will be pretty consistent

[dapper prism]

Cant you just 3d print a ton easily on vman?

[glacial venture]

wayyyy too weak^^

[signal osprey]

It just means the order of upgrades is usually prioritized yellow>purple>green>orange but thats assuming the same level for the bubbles

[glacial venture]

only about 13b or so

[signal osprey]

If your orange bubbles are lower that will supercede cauldron order

[quiet pewter]

nblb is bugged in that it rolls for final bubbles on each cauldron, so actually upgrades a lot more final bubbles than it should right?

[signal osprey]

Yeah the 15% chance for lithium is misleading

Any specific bubble chosen at random does have a 15% chance at being eligible

But theres a 47.8% chance that any bubble at all can be selected

[quiet pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-insects-caterpillar-monarch-worm-gif-8101373

good bug

[signal osprey]

That ones not a bug its just the way nblb was coded

And the atom in game doesnt go in depth into describing the mechanics

So its one of thoese "technically" true things really

[quiet pewter]

i mean couldnt any bug be said to be "just the way its coded"? its either bugged or poorly described

[dapper prism]

Soon I have reached my goal 😄
https://i.imgur.com/LMAh6fc.png

[signal osprey]

Well bug usually implies that it wasnt intended

[barren otter]

green stack gems...

go trick

[signal osprey]

This was very much intended

[dreamy spruce]

damn

[quiet pewter]

i cant prove it, but i think lava often implements it wrong and then goes "eh close enough", so for a given value of "intended"

[signal osprey]

I mean for some things maybe but the way nblb selects its targets and the way lithium interacts with that makes it seem unlikely in this case

He coded it the way he wanted it and then did a poor job explaining what it does in game

[dapper prism]

Ya'll 5* cardifier Kraken cards? (ik this is vman and not bb, but still terrible af)
https://i.imgur.com/ZCBxss4.png

[paper sail]

Skill speed, baby

[signal osprey]

I just dont 5* my kraken 🗿

[dapper prism]

Ah nice, this whole time i didnt have buff food on

[rustic garnet]

I don't think there is a reasonable argument to actually farm for 5* kraken

[paper sail]

I assume you're running something like this

[rustic garnet]

it's way way way too slow

[paper sail]

Probably more AFK / Card Chance instead of the efficiency

[dapper prism]

Nawh pretty much that atm

[paper sail]

Not looking forward to it.

[dreamy spruce]

damn thats an insane amount of cards

[dapper prism]

Fun how fish 1+2 get 5* while trying to 4* Kraken xD

[paper sail]

First two already to 5* no problem, but phew 4500 more krakens

[dreamy spruce]

way faster to just go farm some gems and buy 5* cardifier from shop

[dapper prism]

Def need to use BB for this but he is busy

[zinc torrent]

Jeah thats a cardifier.

[signal osprey]

You'll get the 3rd to 5* before you even get half of kraken done too

Its just not worth doing

Kraken is one of those cards you just cardify and move on

[zinc torrent]

Same with last chiz

[dapper prism]

I'm just vman fishing for the xp atm but sad the cards arnt moving

[paper sail]

Ah, shit. Speaking of, I need to take mine out crystal farming again before day change

[fast grail]

Fishing cards only really move with bb

[serene solstice]

6h at genies only 800 cards why does w4 and w5 need to be such a big pain ffs

[dapper prism]

Ty4reminder

[dreamy spruce]

wait why does he need to do it before day change?

[paper sail]

Trap collection

[dapper prism]

idk day change but i double setup my fishing levels

[dreamy spruce]

ah

[dapper prism]

Level fish to 25% xp, kill crystals for level up + 75% xp reduction on next level, then fish 25% for level up, setup the next 25% and crystals again.

[brisk cloud]

Who's got the 1m plunder kills lol. It's so awful compared to the others

[dreamy spruce]

how many chiz sets should I make? currently only have 1 and am lazy so not really swapping it around

[paper sail]

I'm trying to fix my trapping levels. I didn't realize that Species Epoch only cares about the Vman's Trap + Worship levels, nobody elses. So now Vman is on that full Nature Trap setup, trying to speedrun trapping levels.

[dapper prism]

3 First, then later i made 10 xD

[paper sail]

I never even finished making 1 set lmao

I'll see you in Hell, Chizoar boots

[signal osprey]

Only set I bothered making was for slab

[paper sail]

Part of that was just timing

I went to Lustre instead, since Diabolical was next at the time

but now with magma/kruk that line is dead

...but lustre boots still make skill boots! So.. Chizoar boots still bad 👎

I have all 10 in magma/kruk now, still have to make Diabolical for slab at some point

[rustic garnet]

and another white screen of death on cog menu

[zealous niche]

My guys are an eclectic mix of gear because of slab >.>

Waiting on salt to get them into kruk gear

[paper sail]

Mine were until earlier today, yeah

I had enough salts to finish the other 8 skulls and the labrats troll/magma/kruk

Now we on that Trap salt grind

Already 70k/90k so not too bad

I should probably make the slab items first :c The traps ain't gonna do shit lol

[dreamy spruce]

Why would the traps not do anything?

[paper sail]

Have you looked at them?

[dreamy spruce]

no

[paper sail]

Its just trapping power and some agi. Same number of upgrade slots, same total traps

[dreamy spruce]

ah yeah sounds pretty useless then

[paper sail]

And since we place all traps with BM / Vman now, individual character trapping power is worthless

So +18 AGI for 10k nullos lmao

(after BM has theirs, of course)

[dapper prism]

Just dont rush kruk (on all, and also not the full set), as you still need magma for sampling

[paper sail]

My gear strategy:
Full Kruk - Vman only
Respawn Gang (Magma Helm and Boots, Kruk Chest and Pants) - BB (for Super CHOWs), main SB, and BM (if out fighting)
Droprate Gang (Kruk Helm and Boots, Magma Chest and Pants) - main DK
Stats Gang (Full Magma) - All mages, and all duplicates (for samples)

I do borrow DR helm+boots when I'm doing the stinky Kruk cape-drop quest :c

[dreamy spruce]

https://gistana.idleonefficiency.com/
Currently just farming CC to upgrade liquid cauldrons since I can't afford to upgrade bubbles rn, anything better I should be doing instead?

[paper sail]

Boss key quests

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah im big slacking on w2 boss keys

[paper sail]

Shame. Buy your anvil points.

[dreamy spruce]

Good idea, thanks

[paper sail]

Miiiight be worth your time to do some W4 Colo

Specifically for eggs to level up your breeding

[dreamy spruce]

to get to shinies faster?

[paper sail]

Yes

You're 38/40

2 levels and you can start the many-month-long process of shinies

Also for 3rd alch bubble slot

[dreamy spruce]

Will do that too then

[dreamy spruce]

I have sheepie so that doesn't help

[paper sail]

Ah. I guess public IE doesn't show that

[red slate]

why is it advised to not skill up the unending loot in sailing when you can check every 2 hours?
I understand that if you check every ~5 hours you miss out on the loot waiting and if you wait for a long time then the chests upgrades become better, but why is it advised against for less than 2 hours? you don't lose out chests in that time, so what am I missing?

[dreamy spruce]

it doesnt do anything

just a waste of talent points

[willow drum]

if you talent it and check at 2 hours it doesn't ugprade a chest.. if you check more than 2 hours later you lose the extra chests from the 2nd return

[pearl cedar]

It is not a good talent if you haven't finished artifacts

[paper sail]

Kinda minor, but all of your character card / card set / star signs /prayers are wacko? Like your Chef BB is running fight afk stuff. Some characters only have 1 or 2 star signs aligned, instead of all 3.

[willow drum]

it's not a good talent to get artifacts either. more .01 chance is better than .02 chance

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah keep forgetting to swap those, thanks for reminder

[unreal fox]

How?

[red slate]

it gives a little increase in chest loots, and if I check under 2 hours I won't miss out anything, the difference might be when I sleep but I'm close to having unlocked all my reachable artifacts

[paper sail]

You also have a ton of meals that could level up in 1-5 ladles. Don't forget to rotate through those often

[dapper prism]

How what?

[unreal fox]

Can u give me ur ie?

[dapper prism]

It's my disc name, i don't update the public since doot was released.

[violet viper]

Not really related to world 5, but imma shoot my shot, anyways just got back from a long hiatus of not playing for like 3 months or so, and I've come to find that I need nullo salt for lots of recipes leading up to the 5th anvil tab.

So my question is, is there anything in world 4/5 that can help in speeding up refinery or giving more salt in general?

At the rate im going, its gonna take me a week just to get enough nullo salt to upgrade a piece of armor/wep

[pine pond]

Update hype

Train

[pine pond]

Doot

[dreamy spruce]

w4 has the lab, w5 has omni

[pine pond]

^

[violet viper]

Omniphau is whicu divinity? I've only got the 4th currently unlocked

[dapper prism]

A bunch, but depends how strong you are.
Rift 41 con mastery will help half your refinery speed.
Doot the obvious, or in other words, equip Omni on most/all characters kinda thing

[undone steeple]

for stat obols, is it the same as drop rate ones where you have to roll them as silver/bronze before upgrading?

[dapper prism]

damn you quit before getting goat 😦

[dreamy spruce]

its the elephant, god 6 maybe?

[dapper prism]

yeh

5 goat, 6 omni (elephant), 7 tiger

[violet viper]

I stopped playing at the end of world 4 :/

Ahh aites

[dapper prism]

Use Focus stance, read Pins for tips

[viral star]

is this good for 1st nuggie?

[violet viper]

Such a pain just to get nullo salt fr

[undone steeple]

XD

[viral star]

why xd

[dapper prism]

Remember shovel charges become diminishing over time. first charge is every hour (after you click the shovel) 2nd charge is like 5 or 6h (etc)
If you click the shovel early, it resets your timer and you have to wait the full 60mins again.

[viral star]

oh okay good to remember i just unlocked it

[quiet pewter]

for bubble 4 (the big mining bubble for example) does it still help samples after it maxes at 300%

[rustic garnet]

5th white screen of death on cog menu

[quiet pewter]

the mining chance thing does nothing? or it would only matter if not at 100% hit?

[dreamy spruce]

Thanks for the tips, will work on them

[dapper prism]

No, as that specifies Multi ore and it says Max at 300%

#1084911530417606656 somewhere has the hard caps on bubbles

[quiet pewter]

but it has two effects

[dreamy spruce]

one raises multi ore chance CAP to 300%, the other just raises multi ore chance

so it caps at 300%, that effect doesnt increase with bubble level

[dapper prism]

See hard cap here:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087501872002256966/1087501872149049364/image.png

[pine pond]

Take mine

[tall dirge]

when is troll obol best used dam its decent

[pine pond]

Never

[quiet pewter]

thanks for the link. so wait... the bubble caps at 300% but gives more than 300% bonus? i think i get why its not worth leveling now, just a bit weird that it gives bonuses above its own cap.

[dapper prism]

Good for your afk stuff like sb gmush grind and things like that until you get kruk obols easily

[potent lily]

Fr

[tall dirge]

i mean these obols are solid but i keep to my dice right?

[pine pond]

Do you have dice obols for everyone?

[dapper prism]

No.
Max cap is 100% on Multi ore.
Owning this bubble increases Max cap to 300%
The first sentence the part that increases with bubble increase is increasing your multi ore chance.
The more you level up the bubble, the higher multi ore chance, but it still caps at 300%

[tall dirge]

i have family stacks, then bis obol on 2 characters cos cba to swap

[pine pond]

Lol

[tall dirge]

1 set for es and 1 for dk

[dapper prism]

Yup, pretty much the way to go

[pine pond]

Well you'd want to use dice when activity, then kruk obols when afk

Imo

When u get them

[tall dirge]

effort to swap though

[pine pond]

[dapper prism]

My Obol / Obols
https://i.imgur.com/VNj79gp.png
https://i.imgur.com/tMeekpc.png

[tall dirge]

@dapper prism you bm be slacking most the time doe

[pine pond]

So you do wis obols and drop rate cards for bubo?

[dapper prism]

Then 12x Silver + 6x Gold for Skills like Wood/Mine/Catch/fish
I keep that in storage.

[tall dirge]

how'd you get the fragments for that set up

[pine pond]

How do you get 13 drop rate

[pine pond]

Crystal w2 farming

[dapper prism]

DK @ snelbie with maxed crystal rate + choco chip

[unreal fox]

Hi guys, how to increase carry capacity?

[tall dirge]

lmfao surely theres something more productive, i meant the cards suck ? unless you mean sneblie and mimics

[little pagoda]

Sheepie go brr

[pine pond]

I personally like sand pots &

[dapper prism]

I'll probably to full Wis, but getting gold dice is ezpz and doesnt take long compared to purple stat

[pine pond]

Stamps, bags, merits.

[pure ember]

Mason jar, gem shop, smithing levels

[unreal fox]

Like this, but only 20k

[pine pond]

There's a prayer

[pine pond]

You get 13 drop rate with wis obols tho?

[dapper prism]

That prayer only has one use, and that's for when upgrading stamps xD

[pine pond]

I like activing with ot

It

[quiet pewter]

any advice on my alchemy please (i know my grind time sucks)

[pure ember]

For stamp mining, Chopping, mats, fishing, and bugs carrying cap can be increased, and Mason jar is all carrying cap

[dapper prism]

Doubt it but dont need that on bubo

[pine pond]

I sadly do.

[pure ember]

There is also leveling telekinetic chest

[dapper prism]

then you just move the obols over temporarily if you are active bubo

[pine pond]

Oh you move when active gotcha

[dapper prism]

Well, not really, cause no real point for me unless i planned to camp active bubo for a week for some reason

but DK > bubo atm (since i dont need alch stuff)

[pine pond]

Same

[dapper prism]

And when i do its 30mins for 2 CC's to max my water for the day

[pine pond]

Yeah...

O.o

[tall dirge]

why not leave the waters on the lab bonus ?

?

[dapper prism]

Lab has all nodes active for me, but no clue what your point is?

[tall dirge]

you fill the x3 water cap in 2 ccs !?!

[pine pond]

I do it In 3-4

I need my rate higher XD

[dapper prism]

I get around 100h+ in a single CC
A CC cycle from start to cd gone to the next one starting is about 15minutes, so 2x CC's

[dreamy spruce]

5x water cap even

[pine pond]

Your cap is around 18kish?

[dapper prism]

No?

[pine pond]

Ah

[dapper prism]

28 water/h => 2.8k Water per cc' so close to 6k water in 30mins

[pine pond]

Oh yeah that's mine. But I'm at 30/hr

[dapper prism]

Now i need to figure out what i can do to upgrade it more xD

[tall dirge]

push the higher cap in the cal-point drain then level up cc bubble?

[dapper prism]

Never do cap first

[tall dirge]

you kindaa got to if you get cap so quick

or turn lab node off, then actively play the bubo whilst cc just uber clicking on upgrading them

[dapper prism]

As said, first, when you start of you wont be having 100h alchs kips in cc..

[dreamy spruce]

you can spend liquid during cc

[dapper prism]

and your water will be lower too

So you level up water regen rate first, since it may take you "hours" to even hit cap

Unless you want to be very efficient and turn off lab node and be active and spend water non stop

[viral star]

is this okay?

[dapper prism]

Tente rings are terrible, should never buy a second one. Always go for Emp Opals

[tall dirge]

enjoy w5

[viral star]

didnt know that guess i have 2..

[tall dirge]

you best pushing w5 even in amarok armour

[dapper prism]

Yeh no worries, a bunch of later alch bubbles all scale with main stats

[dapper prism]

Be sure to active on DK for a bit until you get giant mob odds higher, if you want to be efficient on their loot. Since dk orb should affect it?

[potent lily]

I feel like a noob when i see all this things

[crimson thistle]

do i really gotta wait for like 100 hours to unlock divinitY?

[pine pond]

Wym 100 hours

[viral star]

it was my 2nd giant of the week

so its around 60 normally

[crimson thistle]

i get 1 div point per hour

[rustic garnet]

6th white screen of death for cogs 😦

[pine pond]

As far as I know it does

[rustic garnet]

This is a repeatable bug

[dapper prism]

check pins

[rustic garnet]

it seems after maybe 200 to 300 cogs, it freezes

[pine pond]

We know it's been reported

Stop clicking so fast XD

[viral star]

where should i active him his wayyyyyyyyy weaker than my es

[rustic garnet]

I'm not clicking that fast 😦

[dapper prism]

Game freezes with too many quick inputs

[rustic garnet]

what is the way to 'make it happen'?

I'm clicking once per 2 seconds

[dapper prism]

Any map thats flat with a lot of mobs, even w2 snelbie would be good for a bit

[pine pond]

Oranges, clammies, bloodbones

[viral star]

let me show you my dk rq

[potent lily]

I just got maestro to lvl 150 now im working on killing all w 1 2 3 1m

[dapper prism]

idki that is just how it seems to me, ever since i stopped "camping" something very click intensive i havnt been getting white screens