lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[zinc torrent]

Luck bubble is a bitch to atom tho

[vagrant mountain]

waiting for NBLB

[valid plume]

All anvil material bubbles are a bit of a hassle tbh

[strong nova]

i need invest more to hammer2

[valid plume]

And the primary targets for bargain tags

[steady spruce]

without wanting to state the obvious, i should link to nobisect for zow/chow, right?

[vagrant mountain]

im printing 3x luigi brackets on all my characters for that stupid chip

[grand karma]

i got it at 170 lol

[vagrant mountain]

my anvils r weak

[strong nova]

nblb almost there

[grand karma]

i meant the point where i could atom it

[barren otter]

[vagrant mountain]

anvils weak hammers heavy vomit on my sweater already something spaghetti

[strong nova]

pet that hammer all mats when

[grand karma]

i hate hourly clicks man

[strong nova]

oh no im giving him idea

[barren otter]

love hourly clicks

[grand karma]

that would make the gem anvil irrelevant so probably not… right?

[strong nova]

x3 all mats

[vagrant mountain]

im halfway to hourly

[grand karma]

man dont talk anymore

pls dont

[strong nova]

oh no

isnt it already can hourly

[lyric sequoia]

I just want an auto arm that’s not trash tier tbh

[vagrant mountain]

MSA is trash tier

[lyric sequoia]

It pulling thread from the first character I log into once per day is real dumb

[strong nova]

he already aware arm bug daily collect

but uhh, been a while fixed things

[grand karma]

everytime on login would be great

[lyric sequoia]

It then also depositing bars more than once per day would be great too

[vagrant mountain]

that wouldnt work with the spaghetti code

[valid plume]

If it would work the same as spice auto collecting if afk for longer than an hour that would already be grand

[lyric sequoia]

I forgot that skill even existed lmao

[grand karma]

maybe he also could make it so you gain some cards from it, but that would probably be too op

[lyric sequoia]

Stopped using it when he added the 100 daily collect cap since I wanted specific spices for those claims and never cared to put points into it again

[strong nova]

since free claim converter, 100 limit hit really fast

[lyric sequoia]

Not really, rift gives you the cards from drone already

[grand karma]

i meant smithing

[strong nova]

my blue forge not even diamond star yet

[lyric sequoia]

I know, but getting cards from the auto deposit is the same as getting cards from drone. Neither are overpowered

[dreamy spruce]

oh that spice collect counts towards claim?

[grand karma]

oh right, sorry brain fart
yes then thats true

but it would probably have to be a harder unlock then auto arm then

[lyric sequoia]

Especially considering that half of forge just gives no cards anyway

[lost tendon]

How do yall get more breeding EXP to reach level 40 for example.

[strong nova]

get more eggs

colo or mini boss

[lost tendon]

what do colo or mini bosses do for that?

drop eggs?

[valid plume]

Nope, your claim count is disconnected from the auto claim

[vagrant mountain]

you get eggs from colo? 👁️ 👄 👁️

[lyric sequoia]

The only way is hatching, no big secret

[urban violet]

So I got into w5 like a week ago. All of my 10 guys are chilling on the Devine pedestal and I've unlocked the goat.
I also have the doot pet

Does that mean I can just park all my guys in the lab and they will gain both lab and divi ty exp?

[lyric sequoia]

From mush yes

[strong nova]

coloseum have miniboss...

[lost tendon]

that takes ages before i get to level 40 then ahaha

[vagrant mountain]

thx

[valid plume]

You can use your 100 claims for the day and after that auto spice claim will still work if the char has been afk for longer than an hour

[grand karma]

from mini boss yea

[vagrant mountain]

anyone know best map to farm these?

for green stack

[untold saffron]

Poops and rats

[grand karma]

poops/rats i think

[vagrant mountain]

ohhh ok

[untold saffron]

And get the employment status quest from tp Pete while you're at it

[prisma drift]

They drop really fast tbh

[vagrant mountain]

yeah thats why im tryna green stack

hi hoggi '

[prisma drift]

Howdy

[vagrant mountain]

also i need to finish the quest cuz i dont have the stamps yet 😆

[prisma drift]

Im halfway to green without grinding it

Just from leaving the quest on ES

[vagrant mountain]

me too i just realized i had 5m clouds

im tryna lava skull w1 rn so this works out pretty well

[tall dirge]

does a silver mining obol reroll to 3 mining power?

[prisma drift]

I believe only dementia obols re roll

And it’s their efficiency % that re rolls

But Im just trying to remember what I was told

So I could be wrong

[azure spindle]

It's only the % bonuses that can get +1 %

[tall dirge]

gotcha

[valid plume]

And base stats

Like str, wis, luck

[azure spindle]

Yeah and that but either way can't hit skill power

[valid plume]

Nope, no skilling power

[tall dirge]

okok

#slab gains so dont really care

[prisma drift]

Wdym mining obols arent just slab

My mining obols suck and they do a decent amount of work

[vagrant mountain]

BIS is slush and kruk for hexagon and sparkle tho lol

[fresh plank]

Can set cards 5star?

[storm kelp]

So I got off bear god with a character but they are still acting as they are in lab. Is this a bug that works in my favor or could I be missing something else?

[strong nova]

maybe not updated yet, changing map should be work as usual

[grand karma]

or doot?

[storm kelp]

I changed map, I logged off and on again but yeah maybe it is just a question of time

[prisma drift]

Is slush really bis?

Slush obol

[vagrant mountain]

isnt it?

[strong nova]

ES poly?

[prisma drift]

Mining obol

Increase is small but mining is still higher

Maybe end game slush is better

[vagrant mountain]

[crisp silo]

Slush gives stat right?

[strong nova]

if it higher its higher

[vagrant mountain]

yeah stats and efficiency

[prisma drift]

It’s 3% skill eff

But mining gives 2% and power

[crisp silo]

The base stat it gives is more?

[prisma drift]

I think the mining power is what’s doing it

[vagrant mountain]

if you think about how much mining power you have, its not a lot

[storm kelp]

I'm relatively new to world 5 so yeah this must be it. How does it work though? any good guide here?

[vagrant mountain]

between your bubbles and alchemy, you probably have over 500 power

[prisma drift]

True that I’ll scrap my extra slushes

[vagrant mountain]

so +3 power isnt a lot

[prisma drift]

Hey but it’s still higher

[crisp silo]

Maybe hold onto 1

[vagrant mountain]

yeah

[crisp silo]

Prob latergame its begter

[strong nova]

you can check pinned #lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[prisma drift]

I mean I can just do a couple w3 Colo and get more

Slush obol aren’t rare

[crisp silo]

Did u roll both obols?

[prisma drift]

Rolled neither

[crisp silo]

Ok

[prisma drift]

Slush has more str tho

So it’s not base stat gain

[storm kelp]

Thanks, I was already on bear god while being level 1 in poly :/

[valid plume]

Whats the general opinion about the new kruk star obols btw, are they a definite replacement for the DR obols in family tree?

[strong nova]

i'd test it and see which one is higher

[grand karma]

when active farming, dr is better but for samples/deathnote/pushing - afk fighting overall, kruk is better

[strong nova]

drop for active for sure

[grand karma]

also if u really just want dmg for some reason when active, kruk is also better

[valid plume]

Ye thats what i thought as well, so ill probably just keep my DR’s in there. And keep a few of kruk on hand if i want to snapshot

Im basically always active farming on my DK or bubo

[grand karma]

yeah, you can just swap obols when you claim other chars

[valid plume]

Indeed, that gives best of both worlds

[glad crow]

any guesses on how many ladless i will get?

[noble mesa]

At list 5

[valid plume]

14460

[strong nova]

0, you forget to pickup

[glad crow]

[noble mesa]

Yessss i was corect

[valid plume]

Nice, almoste 10k

[glad crow]

welp.... i guess i gotta spend the next hour leveling meals

[valid plume]

Anybody else thinks cooking should be a global account skill

[glad crow]

actually scratch that.... im gonna put on the eurobeat, so it will only take 45 minutes 😎

[valid plume]

Like gaming and sailing, cooking exp is somehow even worse to get than breeding which is already ridiculous

[zealous niche]

We need something to distract from fishing

[strong nova]

but my bb keep outlevel vman cook

with that super abysmall tiny efficiency, my hope only random baloon drop

[junior ledge]

Hi. I would like to do achivement hunting, i have to do "Trial by time"
Run from Town to Efaunt Tomb in under 2 minutes with less than 132% move speed, No teleporting
My speed is too high, i tried to even use the 2 star alignement that reduce move speed, but the lower i can do with my lowest character, is 140%. How can i do the achievement ? am i screwed...?

[strong nova]

double the star

[junior ledge]

What ?

[strong nova]

chip

hmm will it double negative

never try

[junior ledge]

We can allign twice to a star ?

[strong nova]

star sign doubler chip

[wanton obsidian]

Is there a spreadsheet for the option bubble to aim for?

[junior ledge]

Ah... i don't have this chip :l

Is there a limit that chip can be installed on a player ?

[strong nova]

1

should be enough -12 x2

if it work

[junior ledge]

Well, so i rather stop increasing speed stuff until i get that chip if i want to get a chance

[glad crow]

still but its getting up there

[junior ledge]

Well, thanks Saxy Squirrel

[glad crow]

what do you exatly mean by option?

[granite grove]

all of your characters now got speed higher than 132%? if so then oof, basically locked out of achievement unless lava does some changes

also im not sure if star sign doublers do double negatives, heard that forsaken doubled star sign used to instakill but not anymore

[white sphinx]

kistune rock on or off?

[glad crow]

most people say on for the incresed speed for evolutions

[wanton obsidian]

Sorry optimal**

[granite grove]

on if active, or if trying to force new evolutions for chems or plants discovered

[wanton obsidian]

Like the lvl where the stats from the bubble fall off

At what point should I stop lvling something

[glad crow]

well then larry 501 would be a good start, followed by larry 1100

[granite grove]

theres one in guide section iirc

[wanton obsidian]

Yes I think that's what I'm looking for

Just for every bubble

[glad crow]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1087501872002256966

[wanton obsidian]

What lvl it starts falling off

[wanton obsidian]

Ty

[glad crow]

that isnt 100% what you are asking about, but it should give you an idea

[granite grove]

impossible to answer, technically it already falls off since lv2 since gains aren't linear

[glad crow]

that combined with IT should be able to make it so you can make your own goals

[granite grove]

it best to just say what % of 100% you want to aim, decay formula literally starts having diminishing returns at every point, just that diminishing returns starts become stronger past 50% of max

[white sphinx]

ok ill turn it on. Im just missing Chem lvl 5, and all level 6's. Really want the snail, but i berry 4 only makes 1B green =\ everything else is lower. id have to wait like 20 days to buy snail at that rate.

[wanton obsidian]

Exac what I was looking for actually Ty

[gilded escarp]

Keys are limited and I'm trying to get the cruk pendant and obol, should I farm the normal or chaotic?

[glad crow]

normal for anything but cape

[gilded escarp]

K ty

[quiet pewter]

why does spaghetti break into 3 pieces?

[signal crypt]

What are the best chars for clearing all mobs in rift?

I mean the "Clear all mobs on 3 chars challenges"

[glad crow]

dk and es

[prisma drift]

Bubo es is what I use

[noble mesa]

What is the last bubble we can unlock?
W6 or w7?

[quiet pewter]

w7

[noble mesa]

Last w7 bubble?

[prisma drift]

Nah you can keep going?

[quiet pewter]

its a boost to the go karting minigame in w7, gives extra fuel

[noble mesa]

U think?

[prisma drift]

No reason why it would stop

Maybe just cost too much to do reasonably

[noble mesa]

If lava dident put them yet

[prisma drift]

They aren’t in yet

[noble mesa]

For sore

[prisma drift]

But you can pre unlock

[noble mesa]

Im doing it , i unlocked like 3-4 on all

[clear quartz]

i need to get bubo more useful, hopefully "soon", getting proper mileage out of cc would be nice

[quiet pewter]

wait what?

[prisma drift]

You can keep unlocking bubbles

Even if you have them all

[noble mesa]

U need max luck and max bubo skill

[prisma drift]

Since lava does 5 bubbles per world doing 5 extra should pre unlock next worlds bubbles when released

[quiet pewter]

how do you know if its succeeds? im assuming you dont see a new bubble

[prisma drift]

It costs more

[quiet pewter]

ah

smart

[noble mesa]

And u have less %

[wanton obsidian]

Flex fr

[prisma drift]

Now get 101

[wanton obsidian]

Bru

😂

[potent gust]

Unlocked my first Ancient Artifact (and the rate was so stupid) also got a 3rd boat, was able to upgrade the speed of two of them from 10/h to 50/h

Feels good

[wanton obsidian]

Ironically I just unlocked mine as well

With the same one too

[glad crow]

dont think that mega crit has 101, does it?

[wanton obsidian]

All flurbo talent does, no?

[potent gust]

Nice job haha o/

[twilit goblet]

any advice for getting hocus choppus into atom range asap? anvil items are gated af

[tacit tulip]

The great news is that's probably the best ancient artifact to get

[vagrant mountain]

this and bargain tag

[grand karma]

bargain tag it as much as possible

[potent gust]

Seems so the bonus is enjoyable wow. However i'll have to find how to increase my Chests Stack because 5 max sucks

[quiet pewter]

long term you can put a few atom levels into everything else to ensure nblb hits un-atomable bubbles for a bit

or if you plan to candy any eclipse skulls on your SB, candy gives anvil progress

[twilit goblet]

thanks, just gonna get more anvil stuff and keep bargain tagging it i guess

dont think im at that stage yet since im doing very little dmg, ty guys

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/9711e550f06151b3be644c80204b3c75.png

[vagrant mountain]

[crisp silo]

now the cape grind begins!

or thropy

or one of them

[quasi meteor]

Try to unlock the merit task

[potent gust]

I can't pass the first map atm, i'm like trying to improve everything before starting W5 tbh

[rustic garnet]

Do I have 1 or 2 more evos left on my plants?

[signal crypt]

Depends on what you have unlocked

[rustic garnet]

Ignore that, are there 1 or 2 more unlocks?

[quiet pewter]

2 if you had all upgrades

[signal crypt]

2 if you have the unlock in top right of superbits

[rustic garnet]

thanks

[quiet pewter]

i think T7 is kinda impossible though

[rustic garnet]

why do you think that?

[quiet pewter]

like would take hundreds of days on average

for the levels i have anyway

[rustic garnet]

what are your levels?

[quiet pewter]

dunno

not at my pc just now, i remember the result was bad though

[outer harbor]

how does super chow work if you have 2 bb

[quiet pewter]

try to not have 2 bb

[rustic garnet]

The one in the higher numbered slot is counted

'try not to have 2 bb' is nice and all, but if you have them -- second BB gets super chow

first bb only gets the chow/zow boosts

[signal crypt]

What's super chow?

[sick sentinel]

vman buff to chow, 100M kills on a mob for that barb

gives good cooking speed

[storm kelp]

vman is best for rare drops right for bosses I mean?

but maybe not for the ones you can get squire going before the minibosses?

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/cbcd2a85312f4af73430531a4c539c92.png

nearly done :']

[sick sentinel]

if you can manage the bosses with vman then yeah, best for cards and drops through their talents. if you dont have the dmg for nmare kattle sb is pretty good tho with their drop rate talent. and yeah minibosses you want to stack orb a bit with dk then spawn them

[storm kelp]

but also for minibosses or is divine knight better for slush, mush?

I guess vman would be better for king doot

[sick sentinel]

slush/mush with dk, i would do doot with vman

there is an invisible green mushroom in doot area, dont know if that counts for stacking orb

[storm kelp]

ok cool thanks

[hardy bloom]

damn what a huge jump, i really have been slacking off on my printer

[storm kelp]

I'm using mostly ES for rare drop active farming though (snowflakes for vman's weapon for instance). Is that the meta?

[lime kite]

Can you have multiple resource stacks in your storage?

Like 5 stacks of oak.

[storm kelp]

yeah but try to avoid it

if you swap two items they will not bunch up but if you just auto add them to storage you should be fine

you can drag and drop for however many stacks you want

[pure ember]

What are people's red salt ranks?

[clear quartz]

18 currently

[storm kelp]

just 10, been playing for 4.5 months

[hardy bloom]

im at 23 yet

[lime kite]

I just want to get multiple stacks so I don't lose out on resources for alch.

[hardy bloom]

since i usually quit for a long time, my refinery and alchemy water is wasted

[storm kelp]

hmm maybe im too much of a noob to understand but I dont

[wheat kiln]

Update noooooow pls lava

[sick sentinel]

printer only fills up the first stack of a resource type. so if you have 5 oak stacks it only fills the first and doesnt flow into the others

[hardy bloom]

refinery sucks man, its so tedious waiting for previous salts to max in order to ccontinue making the higher tier ones

[pure ember]

Lava is probably going to update Sunday night....

[wheat kiln]

I just want somthing now

[untold saffron]

Right, time to start pushing everyone from 390ish to 425 for their divine scarf

[lime kite]

Ok so no.

[pure ember]

Just got my refinery to rank 33

[sick sentinel]

only real reason to have multiple stacks in storage is for the efficiency of copper talent for warriors

[untold saffron]

you could do oak when you know you're gonna sample too

[sick sentinel]

yeah oak is fine as well, doesnt impact as much for catching tho

if you have the space for sure go for it

[untold saffron]

i feel bad for anyone without 10 storage space

[sick sentinel]

eventually stamps cost more than 1 stack can hold as well, but that is a true endgame issue

[loud isle]

You can have multiple stacks?

[glad mountain]

do all dks count towards the same orb kills ?

[sick sentinel]

take some copper into inventory, then drag and drop in a free space

[glad mountain]

tyty

[sick sentinel]

even if you auto sort it doesnt combine the stacks

[loud isle]

Sorry I meant multiple stacks for the mining efficiency?

[sick sentinel]

yep

it counts 11B on the talent, for my amount

gotta remember to manually switch which stack is in front tho so it gets filled

[loud isle]

So you’re basically getting the bonus 10 times lmao

[lime kite]

No.

[sick sentinel]

i dont think its a huge difference

but its somethin

[pure ember]

Bonus +1 time

[sick sentinel]

here's what the bonus with this amount gives

[pure ember]

And the Atom collider can get to +20 times

[grizzled elk]

You're getting one more rank of power of 10, not a 10x increase

[stoic verge]

Is there a spreadsheet somewhere to maximize money ?

[loud isle]

Confusing

[sick sentinel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rudalLD9KD861KSX31FbHxrKAUwVaZABvo9J5w4V_co/edit?usp=sharing
there's at least this that shows the different groups for money

[hardy bloom]

yo, lustre ore is not that useful right?

context: im choosing on what to sample

[sick sentinel]

the wiki got you covered in that area

[loud isle]

Sample copper and get those atoms

[hardy bloom]

bruh useless

[hardy bloom]

i meant this

[loud isle]

10 massive mining pouches for the bois and move on

[prisma lance]

Skill lvl?

[sick sentinel]

269

[hardy bloom]

woah i was gonna settle at 3m, good thing i found out i had mining pearl

[sick sentinel]

Nice!

Big gains

[hardy bloom]

ikr im so happy abt this haha

to think i spent days on 300k/hr

just cause i was lazy to resample

[hollow wasp]

i died with 4 giants in the map

[hardy bloom]

ouch

which mob

[hollow wasp]

citringes

[hardy bloom]

crystal have higher dmg than giants right

[hollow wasp]

when i log in the first time of the day i have like 4 or 5 crystal monster

and they shoot me down pretty hard

[hardy bloom]

im not sure if giant and normal have same dmg

[hollow wasp]

giant have normal

[granite grove]

giant is just HP, crystal has acc HP dmg buffed

[hollow wasp]

but the crystals are hard

[hardy bloom]

but i also avoid using vman on citringes because my current gear cannot survive crystals and giant citringes

[hardy bloom]

oooh

[hollow wasp]

still working on vman

[raven fog]

Guys how do yall get 1000s of eggs i use dk amd i get like 30 per run

[hardy bloom]

do yall think my dmg would reach 2000m if i upgrade my shirt and pants to divine?

[hardy bloom]

wait you can get 30 eggs on dk colo?! dang im missing out on so much stuff

[granite grove]

divine is for utility like mob respawn and DR, magma is still best set for damage

unless if the upgrade slot diff is that huge

no its just 1 extra slot from magma to divine for all gear, so ig extra base stat wont make up for dmg

[hardy bloom]

ill stick with that setup for now then

[hollow wasp]

so the 1m kills for vman i wanna do with BB for chow right, doesnt it take forever?

[raven fog]

Yes how much is ur dr

[hardy bloom]

estimate 3.8 - 4ish

:<

[raven fog]

Oh wow how long have u been playing for

[raven fog]

Use chips

[hollow wasp]

i rly need to get void ore so i can upgrade my armor xd

[raven fog]

I have 14

Almost

[hardy bloom]

longer than most ppl here that can fight nightmare kattle

[raven fog]

Nice i assume 3 months

[hollow wasp]

mhhh?

[hardy bloom]

im not playing the game efficiently and i always quit for long periods

[signal crypt]

Are there any tips on how to get a high wyrmhole score in Rift?

[hardy bloom]

so yeah im so far

[raven fog]

I was talking to him

Sry

[hollow wasp]

im so confused

also call me her, if u talk about me :3

[raven fog]

I replied to u by mistake

[hollow wasp]

ohh

okay

[raven fog]

Ight her

Her u new also?

[hardy bloom]

holy, thats why youre getting 30

[raven fog]

Yap but idk how ppl have 100s of eggs

[hollow wasp]

335h gametime on steam active, some on mobile phone but mostly afk

[raven fog]

Good job her

Oh phones player

[gentle furnace]

kruk set doesnt really give extra dmg

[raven fog]

Phone *

[frozen prairie]

im not excited to farm these 2k batteries for splicers bro

[gentle furnace]

magma set gives more dmg

[noble mesa]

We r the best

[raven fog]

Es will make it easy

[hardy bloom]

wait u still dont have void? have you prepared items for chiz gear?

[raven fog]

Work on him

[hollow wasp]

i rly want anvil tab 4 so i can finally get the DNA splicer for world 2..

[raven fog]

Ok 4 dr ppl

[hollow wasp]

i dont have chiz recipes unlocked yet

[chrome tiger]

you get hundreds of eggs from the miniboss with dk

[hardy bloom]

in one run????

[raven fog]

Nahhh

[noble mesa]

10 dr

[raven fog]

Total

[frozen prairie]

probably like 200 a day ish

[raven fog]

Good mid game

[raven fog]

What’s dmg /dr

[noble mesa]

And i happy with thet

[raven fog]

U should be

I am not happy with mine

So many new faces in discord

[frozen prairie]

3.2b/9.1

[raven fog]

Oh

Work on him a bet

[noble mesa]

Y?

[raven fog]

Check artifacts

[frozen prairie]

i dont have the island unlocked for the bubble damage boost

[raven fog]

Cause i want more

[noble mesa]

So goooo for it
When i did pop obals it gave me a big boost

[hardy bloom]

OH RIGHT

since i wasnt relying on discord and the internet before, i trashed the pop obols that I farmed

[raven fog]

YES LVL 60 breedy

[hardy bloom]

cuz i thought the xp ones were better

what a dumb move

[crisp silo]

outstanding move

[noble mesa]

Jissss

U r solty

[hardy bloom]

bruh i have to farm pop again, are gigafrogs still the only source?

[hardy bloom]

i am dumdum :<

[noble mesa]

R u siries?

[raven fog]

Dw abt them easy ti farm

[noble mesa]

Like for real u asking?

[hardy bloom]

yes i am serious, i trashed them to get fragments for my xp obols

oh

nvm

[raven fog]

Yah bro

[hardy bloom]

maybe while im at it i should craft new material bags for the ones who will grind at frogs

idk how im still not crafting when my pushers are at 1k material capacity

[raven fog]

At ur point of the game i think ur better off sticking with active dk

[noble mesa]

U get the idea , im steel working on the last ones

[raven fog]

U can get more stuff in general

[gentle furnace]

es is the only choice for pops

[raven fog]

God ur in w5 with this bags

[hardy bloom]

yeah im slacking off with my charas except for main

[raven fog]

Ur a legend

[hardy bloom]

IKR hahahahahha

[noble mesa]

Inded

[granite grove]

just craft void bags for all at the minimum, should be cheap even by early w5

[raven fog]

😂😂😂

Idw brag woth my es but i am still going to anyway

[fading dust]

What are y’all doin instead of pushing W5? Idk if I should wait until I got multi-kill to push W5

[granite grove]

getting skill mastery to lv300 for all but cooking, and void tools for stat sticks

[hardy bloom]

yeah i could craft lustre bag for all of them and starfire bag for 4-6 charas

[hardy bloom]

the problem lies with my laziness

oh yeah

[raven fog]

nah push it u need the artifacts

[hardy bloom]

what are your highest leveled chara in cooking

[granite grove]

quick craft 10 of each and then let all ppl claim at once on sampling day

[fading dust]

I shall put that on the list

[hardy bloom]

idk if im doing something wrong, but my highest is lvl 32

[raven fog]

same issue here

[fading dust]

Wait but pushing doesnt give artifacts right cause thats from sailing

[raven fog]

pushing to w5

u can start getting artifacts

[granite grove]

pushing w5 maps no, pushing sailing via new islands or carpet bombing islands, yes

or if push to w5 to rush artifacts, bear god and gaming, also yes

[noble mesa]

U can push 1 to boss

[fading dust]

Oh haha Im in W5 rn, just trying to find other things than fighting to progress account

[granite grove]

carpet bomb islands one by one then ig

[hardy bloom]

i have some painful images for you to see

[fading dust]

Wow guess sailing is super important

[pastel heath]

quite a huge boost

from 65 to 1389

[hardy bloom]

really hurts my eye going from tab 1 to 2 in printer

[granite grove]

sailing arti buffs are ridiculous, cant sleep on it

[hardy bloom]

imagine one chara printing 865 x 4 per hr spore caps

[raven fog]

OH GOD

[fading dust]

Trying to get eldritch fury now… how long did it take ya?

[raven fog]

i was gonna ask u about atoms lol

[granite grove]

then better find sampling day soon, and also work on those bags for all

[native folio]

guys how should I build a vman

[raven fog]

acc u make me feel better

[native folio]

just unlocked it..what now

lol

[hardy bloom]

because u didnt end up like me? AHHAHHAHA

[prisma edge]

SBs pirate flag, when it mentions the drop reward increased by say 6000% does it mean the added to your drop rate or is it similar to multikill?

[hardy bloom]

i always complain abt how far the gap my idleon is compared to other early players

yet i fully know its because im just lazy

[granite grove]

didnt have eldritch fury yet since acc is like 2 months old, currently bombing cloud islands for new PO and bit multi tho, and last warrior bubble

trying to catch up since bored and no longer playing old acc, lol

[hardy bloom]

2 months old, can i ask how much dmg do you have on your main chara

or highest dmg of all your charas, if you dont consider one of them as main

[granite grove]

230-323m on bubo with dmg star signs and active grind card set

[raven fog]

Nah cause ur baaad

Jkk

[fading dust]

Jesus

[raven fog]

Because my acc is better than urs

[granite grove]

need that last purple bubble tho, at lv1 because sailing, aaaa

[hardy bloom]

you have better progress in 2 months compared to mine in how many year + months

[raven fog]

Nice meeting u guys i remember when i was in ur place

[granite grove]

tbf old players didnt have much stuff compared to nowadays so giving credit where its due

[raven fog]

On that’s it with trash talking

[hardy bloom]

no need to say jk sir, im fully aware of the wrong things that i am doing hahahahhahaha

[raven fog]

Some ppl get sad

[solemn yarrow]

Guys, there anyone who can give me some advice on dungeons?
I recently got back into dungeons (rank 25 rn) and i cant really remember anything. Id like to know some strats, best class and abilities to use in dungeons and what to prioritize.

[raven fog]

U will regret saying this 😂

[hardy bloom]

im just happy that finally im seeing progress in my main chara dmg, since i was stuck at 200m for a long time and now its at 1700m-2200m

[granite grove]

depends if friendly jab trash talk or condescending trash talk, hard to know unless familiar with the group tho

[hardy bloom]

maybe theyre just hurt because theyve put a lot of effort in maximizing their efficiency in idleon

all i can say is that ive spent a lot of time in this game. but efficient? i dont think so 😂

[granite grove]

go DK as main dungeon class, also coin flip (best if only 4 purple rng unlocked) + foal + crit items to basically auto play

[hardy bloom]

all i know is that play on frogs

[solemn yarrow]

coin flip?

[granite grove]

or get lucky with voucher + 3 of a kind, lot of effort to claim every bits of rngs and selling upgrades tho

[frozen prairie]

dont ever unlock angelite 😄

[granite grove]

coin flip is one of purple rng item iirc

[raven fog]

Yah am aware of that but i am talking about ppl irl they get sad with jokes in general i don’t make fund of noobs her usually

[granite grove]

and coin flp gives 4 items as a choice, if only 4 or less is unlocked, you can kinda guarantee those options

[hardy bloom]

my atoms are pretty sad to look at too though, but i think i might be able to upgrade lithium in a few days since i finally reached million printer\

[signal crypt]

I'm having difficulties reaching wyrmhole level 60 in Rift with my es. Any tips?

[hardy bloom]

maybe lacking dmg?

or if you almost reached 60

[granite grove]

really need atom building here for stamp discounts (soon to unlock rift 26), 8.5/50m and still pretty far

[restive aspen]

More damage and up your crit chance as high as you can. Also max out your wormhole skill to increase duration

[hardy bloom]

just use portals on the left platforms (the ones that are short)

[restive aspen]

^thar too

[signal crypt]

It's around 163B

[hardy bloom]

rift 60?

[restive aspen]

That's what I did for the one I think you're talking about. This forces some your skills to be concentrated on that platform like whirlwind

[swift pecan]

Apparently i neglected stamp levels for longer than i thought i did because i just gained roughly 2000 stamp level, which was about a 50% increase in total level.

[signal crypt]

Rift 44

[restive aspen]

Same stuff still applies although yeah the hp on those enemies are in the trillions iirc

[hardy bloom]

is there even a rift 60 , or nah hahahahha

[restive aspen]

Nah, think 49 is the highest atm

[signal crypt]

Last unlock is at 46 ^^

[hardy bloom]

im still at a lower rift than you so all i can say is that if the left platforms doesnt work

maybe you need more dmg

[signal crypt]

Alright so I'll focus on getting his skills and damage up

[granite grove]

if you worked a lot on quick slap bubble, you could milk damage with MS potions + boost food buff %, like one from star sign and w2 card set

[hardy bloom]

how far are you guys at cooking

[restive aspen]

Go to where rift ripper or whatever his name is when actually in the rift and go on one of the teeny platforms there. Have your crit at 200+% for always megacrit and max out the megacrit skill

[granite grove]

garbage here other than the BB, and vman because why not, popped some balloons for it

[restive aspen]

If your base damage is at 162B that should be more than enough to hit 60+ wormhole kills for that rift.

Assuming you rely on megacrit

[gentle furnace]

main dmg is from lightning barrage

[hardy bloom]

im not sure abt this anymore, max xp req is 200k and i only get 1.1k/hr

[gentle furnace]

you get cooking exp from balloons not cooking

[signal crypt]

Should I max that skill?

[gentle furnace]

definitely

[hardy bloom]

oh..

[dreamy spruce]

Max all skills from es tab if you play active

[hardy bloom]

ive been hoarding my balloons since im not sure where should i use them

[fathom lagoon]

When golden hamp + Omni procs on 12 hours afk

[granite grove]

reserved for vman fishing mostly when it comes to balloons

[restive aspen]

Raikiri, whirlwind and magic missile are your 3 fastest killers for wormholes when concentrated. Also meteor for a big ole AOE wipe on the platform

[restive aspen]

Candies are mainly for vman to help with skilling and keeping him at #1 skiller for the first 9 skills

[signal crypt]

I don't have enough talent points to max them all

[restive aspen]

At least for me. I occasionally use them if I want to quick boost death note but that's about it

[serene solstice]

🤔

should I go for it? xD

[hardy bloom]

will right hand still work for cooking?

[restive aspen]

What level is your ES?

[frozen prairie]

i wish you could just hold down balloons

[restive aspen]

No. Right and left hand only affect w1 through w3 skills

[signal crypt]

433

[hardy bloom]

and btw, does xp multiplier affect balloon xp?

like should i transfusion first?

[fervent brook]

Finally unlocked snail (also have first partical level for the snail). When should I start upgrading chance instead of leveling up snail?

[hardy bloom]

ohhh rlly, thank you

[restive aspen]

How do you not have enough talent points for missile, raikiri, meteor, and wormhole?

Can you post your ES tab?

[paper sail]

Yes. Balloons only care about EXP. Nothing is gained from AFK values or prowess tiers. You can also use things like the Acorn Hat, Unending Energy prayer, Balance of Proficiency prayer, Maestro Infusion, Star Signs, double Chaotic Efaunt, etc.

[fervent brook]

Cooking. Make sure you have the Skill Exp Prayer on (and any other exp multiplyers that work for Cooking)

[restive aspen]

It does and transfusion is something you need to weigh depending on the skill and your efficiency level for it before and after. For town skills it doesn't matter and fishing is a safe bet but the others can be iffy

[hardy bloom]

so should i transfusion for cooking when i use balloon?

[signal crypt]

What are Missile and Raikiri?

[hardy bloom]

thanks guys

[restive aspen]

Magic missile and raikiri are the attack skills next to meteor on the ES tab. It goes meteor raikiri magic missile wormhole.and then the sorcerer skills for reg attack skills that I can't remember the name of.

[frozen prairie]

is there a good active bar for ES?

[signal crypt]

It says Metero Shower, Lightning Barrage and Radiant Chainbolt

[hollow wasp]

is it wasted if i unlock vman with ES ? (doing the 1m kills on all monster)

[twin token]

No

[hollow wasp]

BB is hella weak compared to ES over here

[hardy bloom]

how bout bb?

ohh

[hollow wasp]

we talk about 20m dmg difference

[restive aspen]

But your attack load out should focus on the first 4 skills, the first skill being enough for 33-50% spawning lava, whirl etc. And then max the wisdom tab 1 skill and the symbols of beyond to 100 or so. More.of you want but make sure it's in groups of 20. Anything that isn't multiple of 20 is wasted talent points

[hollow wasp]

my BB is only lvl 100 :x

[raven fog]

Nah i still don’t have enough atoms atoms are end game stuff

Ignore them

For now

[restive aspen]

Ah mine call them raikiri for some reason and the chain bolt I've.been calling magic missile my b

[twin token]

Any things I could be missing that give ez damage

[hollow wasp]

maybe i should push more lvls with my BB

[frozen prairie]

does anyone have the w5 td setup?

[granite grove]

vman damage presets? like stack them WIS and dmg one

[twin token]

Ye ig I could maybe book it

[hollow wasp]

thats my BB dmg, while my 231 lvls ES has 27m dmg

[twin token]

Does he have cards and star signs and stuff equipped

Aswell as good talents?

[hollow wasp]

thats best i can do

he's only lvl 100 i think thats the problem

180m xp/h needs 108m for lvl up rn

ok this is buffed, with the HP- buff and stuff.

[paper sail]

60% afk 💀

[hollow wasp]

im active anyway

this fire explosion almost 1shots the entire map

[paper sail]

Playing BB active is also pretty 💀

[hollow wasp]

ye low respawn rate :c

even with 2x 20% mob respawn keychains

[paper sail]

Pretty sure BB is literally the worst active character

[granite grove]

better play ES active at that stage, BB is best played afk or kitchen where it belongs

[twin token]

You'd probably get more kills faster afk than active with bb

[hollow wasp]

i want the BB lvled to unlock vman to get good amount of kph

[granite grove]

still best played as afk, while active play goes to ES to get those mob materials and farm crystal drops

[paper sail]

There is simply better use of your time, but you do you boo

[granite grove]

wouldnt recommend DK/Bubo that early tho since they need investment to work, while ES can kinda go in quite early

[hollow wasp]

hmm im pretty much stuck since a few weeks i think

[digital sand]

can you see kill count for bosses anywhere?

grumble

[granite grove]

just if lava adds kill counter for it

[paper sail]

You can save the crystal drop if you're really that concerned, but no retroactive way

[hardy bloom]

nblb atom here i come

[granite grove]

ES farms crystals quite okay since chainbolt snipe mobs while ES is killing portal mobs, need choc chip tho or its effectively x4 times worse without it

ofc, DK still superior when it comes to it

[paper sail]

ES is dog at crystals

[granite grove]

ik, just consider crystal drops as bonus when ES active at best, extra statue could help with early w5 progression

Bb active as said above though, please no

[paper sail]

Fair. I think you may have been confused by my comment though. I was talking about the crystal that world bosses drop

[granite grove]

ah

[digital sand]

never really farmed statues until I accidentally got thousands while greenstacking everything with choccy chip on

statue boosts are suprisingly big once they get up there

[paper sail]

Especially with Vman bonus, some statues are OP OP

[digital sand]

whats the vman bonus?

[paper sail]

Roughly doubles the benefit of all statues, depending on book level

[granite grove]

large status bonus for whole account, for reference, lv50 talent gives 40% boost

[digital sand]

in my head, I thought that skill was for shrines lol

[pure ember]

It's huge...

[paper sail]

Like my statues aren't even crazy leveled but food effect is massive

Still a 97% bonus from Vman lol

[pure spindle]

683% is crazy lol

[paper sail]

Yup. Makes capping skill speed that much easier

[gentle furnace]

where do you see this in IT

[paper sail]

and gives a ton of extra souls thanks to Soulble Gum

[paper sail]

Account > General

[granite grove]

food boost also means damage boost with MS potions and quick slap bubble too

[ancient vine]

That's with skill level 225?

Or less

[ancient vine]

Pog

[paper sail]

'

[ancient vine]

I have Max lvl 220

Noice

I'll need more damage and bonuses for better speedrun points

[paper sail]

I need to actually try a Nobi speedrun. I've not done so yet 😮‍💨

[ancient vine]

Everything would be so easy with Last pet bonus

[paper sail]

Truth

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-no-good-try-someday-gif-5591661

[hollow wasp]

maxing this card sounds like a good idea.

[paper sail]

They have a Vial as well, printer sample size. Nice until the 90% cap, then worthless :c

[hollow wasp]

oh nice

ye im sure i can get it 4star today

1 in 1h (afk stats), i farm with ES

[paper sail]

Yep. You can 5* the card before maxing the vial as well lol

[hollow wasp]

idk how to 5star

i cant rn i think

[granite grove]

rift 46, very far end

[hollow wasp]

i dont have these cardifier

im on rift5, its kinda hard

[paper sail]

It's a rift bonus, but all cards you've ever collected will count once you unlock the rift bonus in the future

[hollow wasp]

my ES smacks everything, but other chars are hella bad

[granite grove]

yeah, forget about ruby cards for now, unless if having gems for cardifers, best reserved for w3+ nightmare bosses

[hollow wasp]

okay. well i have alot of gems but im just saving them up for w6 stuff, idk if its smart or no xd

[granite grove]

yeah better do that, who knows if next limited shop or w6 upgrades are busted

[hollow wasp]

7757 gems

[quiet pewter]

seems smart

7000 maybe excessive though, depending what other bonuses you are missing

w6 is still months off

[paper sail]

I'd keep 2-3k, spend the rest

We have a patch coming this weekend for Island Expeditions that likely has a new FOMO shop.

[summer folio]

how long does it take to get the 6 mil kills on biggie moles map on average>

[granite grove]

need hyper obols here, and elite swapper

[quiet pewter]

i mean how fast are you killing them?

do it afk btw

[paper sail]

Varies greatly based on your account 🤷 Could be hours, could be days. We can't tell you that.

[granite grove]

quests active kill only counts base kill for some reason, while afk counts after mk

lava should to fix that but oh well

[paper sail]

It has been that way with basically every quest. I doubt it gets changed now.

But yes, offline claims will include MK and KPK for those quests

[quiet pewter]

tbh i think the bug is actually mk counting offline. but since it exists hes put the goals way up

[summer folio]

XD thats why my portals at 5 mil kills and my quest is at 1 mil

[quiet pewter]

i assume the intent was for some quests to count actual kills

[granite grove]

if 6m base kills, many ppl would still be grinding that quest till this day or sth and would be cruel of lava to do

[quiet pewter]

i mean if he fixed the bug he'd obv need to lowere the goal

[granite grove]

if its a bug ig, just that dunno if active non-mk or afk mk is the bug to lava's eyes

or just totally intended game features with lava coding^tm

[quiet pewter]

its a bug one way or another, hard to know which its meant to count

[paper sail]

Lava also stated he thought MK worked on rare drops during one of the early w5 class release streams 🤷 Don't give the guy too much credit lmao

[granite grove]

oh right, lava hardly plays the game judging from 4k WIS in future blogs and TD streams

[paper sail]

Man loves his Fireball lobbers

[granite grove]

TD fireball meta

[paper sail]

I wish. It sucks we have 1 earlygame and 1 mid-forever meta

I'm still salty he nerfed Poison constructions cost at the start of w5 😠

[granite grove]

just if pulse mage is for raw single target dps, and lightning for burst and utility (innate ability undodgable hits plz)

or fireball, dunno what niche could it have because boulder and poisonic

also how hard is the nerf? was kinda on breal during w5 release so didnt notice much

[paper sail]

He doubled the cost of every level for Poison, roughly halved the cost for Kraken

[granite grove]

oh, thats just cruel

kraken thats nice ig

[paper sail]

It caused a huge rift between older players who got to keep their level 50 poisons and new players trying to catch up

Forgot the math now, but I had spent more [build units] by level 34 or something than older players spent to get 50

maybe it was 43

[serene solstice]

w4 and w5 card farming is such a pain ._.

[granite grove]

could understand if its slight increase with 20-30% increase in cumulative build points required

but double? omegalul

[twilit goblet]

does bargain tag gets reset by cc?

[granite grove]

no, reset on daily reset only

[twilit goblet]

weird, ive been buying then cc but it keeps going abck to 0%

but the cost keeps going up

[granite grove]

would be busted to get constantly 90% and pushing early atoms

[twilit goblet]

trying to stack to 90%

[sick sentinel]

are you spending the tags?

[twilit goblet]

nah not spending

[paper sail]

all purchased tags get spent on ANY bubble purchase

[twilit goblet]

ive been doing a few cc

and buying it once or twice each

to accumulate

[sick sentinel]

but are you upgrading bubbles?

[twilit goblet]

nope

does it disappear when i swap char?

[sick sentinel]

idk

[summer folio]

does it get spent on NBLB?

[twilit goblet]

probably not im still 9 hours away from reest

[sick sentinel]

lemme try

[twilit goblet]

let me buy 1 again and see what happens

[glacial venture]

is the question if coupons dissapear when switching chars?

[twilit goblet]

wondering if it does yea

[glacial venture]

if thats the question...no

[sick sentinel]

my tags stay on char swap

[twilit goblet]

hmm ill check back in a bit and see if it disappears

[sick sentinel]

u sure ur not touching your bubbles so that it uses the tags, even grind time bubble?

[twilit goblet]

i just bought 2 tags to 43%

OMG

youre right

that must be it

it must had popped on grind time when im capping on the first 2 liquid

feels dumb but yea thats it

case solved lmao

[sick sentinel]

lol no worries

[twilit goblet]

[sick sentinel]

sometimes you just gotta laugh it off

[granite grove]

wasted discounts, sad

[twilit goblet]

gotta keep this in mind

oh well, could had been upping hocus pocusss

choppus*

[granite grove]

if discounts apply to water cost just for GT bubble only

[sick sentinel]

discounts dont decrease gt cost

[granite grove]

ik, just if

[paper sail]

are you doing X?
"no I am not doing X"
are you sure?
"lol yes I am doing X, that must be it"

Classic

[coral goblet]

does this increase prints?

[paper sail]

Up to 300% total from all sources, yes.

[coral goblet]

okay im gonna focus it with tags

that should help my prints big time

[paper sail]

With star sign doubler, you're getting 40% and have a small base chance too. So you won't have to get the bubble all the way to 300% before it caps.

[coral goblet]

im actually about to get the star sign chip, does that also apply for the infite stars i have unlocked?

[paper sail]

Only the 3 you are actually aligned to will get doubled

If you have the 20% chance as infinite/passive, equipping it will do nothing. Using the star sign doubler will get it up to 40% chance.

[coral goblet]

so once i have that chip, and im sampling logs which 3 would i pick, obv afk skill rate in tab 2 but other 2

[paper sail]

Usually 4% afk, multi-chop/eff, and either 2% afk or food effect if you're under 62/min speed

You'll have to check for yourself which is better

[coral goblet]

interesting ok

[fallen jacinth]

chemical farm

[wheat plaza]

What is the games biggest money sink?

[paper sail]

stamps.

[wheat plaza]

Which in particular tho

[distant oxide]

got a 33% speed captain available to purchase. Which one do you think I should replace?

[paper sail]

...all of them lol

Take your pick

They all go infinitely. The "later" of a stamp, the faster it scales usually.

[raven fog]

Average price

For a doot owner

[paper sail]

Any chance to bitch about Doot, I guess?

[rustic garnet]

Do you have all clouds discovered?

[distant oxide]

Yes

I'm not replacing O though, that's 31% speed

[distant oxide]

sure it's a straight upgrade, but i feel T is probably worse

[paper sail]

Loot is good forever. Speed has an end-of-life.

[rustic garnet]

much of a much really

I would say that though

speed falls off a bit

[paper sail]

Speed becomes literally useless, not just falls off a bit lol

[distant oxide]

when you can do the final island without extra speed in the minimum sail time...which is a very long way off for me

[paper sail]

Investing purely into speed though is a bandaid that tends to gimp you down the road

Loot lets you level up ships and not NEED speed from captains later

[rustic garnet]

When does sailing 'stop mattering' btw?

I'm at this point....

[distant oxide]

never, since you will want to keep getting gold bars for the damage increase

[distant oxide]

but it definitely matters less and less

[vagrant jetty]

For me it stopped mattering after all artifacts maxed

[rustic garnet]

eh ok, so gold bars into logrithmic gains?

[paper sail]

are all the rest of your artifacts eldritch too?

[placid mural]

R or L

E or L

[rustic garnet]

yes

[paper sail]

You can't reach the final island in min time reliably, but you have everything eldritch.. How much are you whaling?

[rustic garnet]

zero whale here

[vagrant jetty]

Honestly just good rng

[rustic garnet]

who says I can't reach the final island in min time?

I was going to offer my view on speed

if your goal is 'finish sailing when artis done'

[paper sail]

Ah, mixing up yellow names mbmb

[rustic garnet]

you will not max speed

I have ships that are not there in min time

[glacial venture]

there are enough ways to get sailing speed

[rustic garnet]

Sure, there is, but I'm pretty far advanced, and I can tell you pretty convincingly, you will get to all eldritch before you max speed on all ships

for the last island

[sterile crescent]

What speed do u need for the last island?

[rustic garnet]

it's 100m distance

[paper sail]

My slowest 7 ships can reach island 13 in my minimum 98 minute time. Next 2 reach island 14. The other 11 can reach the final island.

[distant oxide]

I'm getting there

[glacial venture]

around 50m per hour

[rustic garnet]

and min travel for me is 99 min

so...

[sterile crescent]

I see, thanks guys

[vagrant jetty]

Gold hampters on everyone made sailing go by so fast

[rustic garnet]

60.6 million speed

[paper sail]

For 98minute minimum

[rustic garnet]

I have a single ship that exceeds that

my worst ship takes 30 hours to do final travel

Now

I don't think that is accurate

because watch this

I'm going to claim some 4 hour claims

hmm seems pretty close this time

[paper sail]

Yellow ships 🤢

[rustic garnet]

5 yellow ships, yep

I'm not going to farm those islands right now

[paper sail]

Fair, you only have 1 artifact left lol

[rustic garnet]

what's the point? I am trying to get the final arti

loot value is great for pushing ships up, speed is great for getting artis

you can transition out and pump your ships

but I think the fastest way to arti is somewhere in the middle where you split your ships to the islands with the speed they can 'do'

so before I got to this point, I had a variety of island speeds going

[digital sand]

Is there a way to force this or does it just happen with some trades?

[rustic garnet]

and I just moved my slow ships up to the next slowest island

[rustic garnet]

force, no, influence, yes

[digital sand]

how would I influence it?

[rustic garnet]

the way to influence this is to have all your ships on one island that will be coming up soon (IT/IE has that)

[vagrant jetty]

Trade once, refresh map, one chest at a time, etc

[rustic garnet]

you will then have a big collect

[digital sand]

I see

so completing one trade forces another option?

[rustic garnet]

and you will see your current trade value, either collect more ships to get closer to 777

[paper sail]

Note that your minimum trade is equal to Ship #1's loot value

[rustic garnet]

or trade to reduce by 1/5th current, and refresh (via the gem shop)

[rustic garnet]

very interesting

I wonder if you can make your ship 1's loot value 777k

[digital sand]

How long did it take you guys to get that?

[paper sail]

Yarp. My Ship #1's loot is 443k. All of my trades are thus 443k of [that material]

[digital sand]

wow

[rustic garnet]

long, but I only started to 'pressure' it for a week

[digital sand]

very intersting

[vagrant jetty]

Like a week and a half for me but i had good rng

[digital sand]

sounds like if I get ship 1 to 777k I should get it?

[paper sail]

But we don't really care about the amount we're trading away - Only what we're getting back

[rustic garnet]

yeah

it doesn't matter, you want gold bars

that first thing doesn't help youa ta ll

[digital sand]

would getting loot to 77k work? just had a reality check on my loot for my first boat lol

[rustic garnet]

no

it won't work at all

it doesn't even help a bit

[paper sail]

Only if there is a trade that gives you 10x gold bars per

[rustic garnet]

you need the return value to be 777, not the outgoing

[digital sand]

oh i see

[paper sail]

It's just a note because like when I get this, I can't trade away 1/5 of my loot pile and try again

[rustic garnet]

yeah you would need more first

[paper sail]

I will never be able to trade less than 443k, thus I'll always get 927m or more gold bars

[rustic garnet]

so if you wanted to try to 'reroll' that, you need way more

[paper sail]

Right

[digital sand]

perhaphs it is better to have a lower level 1 loot value then? if I am understanding this right, more option to reroll because each trade is cheaper?

[rustic garnet]

eh maybe

but in reality, no

you'd just be nerfing your best ship

which has it's own issues

[digital sand]

1 is the best ship?

[vagrant jetty]

^

[rustic garnet]

ship 1 is, by a long shot, the easiest to level up

[digital sand]

I have not spent like any gold upgrading it

[rustic garnet]

It only ever takes gold bars

[distant oxide]

damn just got another eldritch, 2 in one day. probably been a week since the last

[digital sand]

side note, what does the unlock for that achievment actually do?

[unreal fox]

nice :3

[digital sand]

give you +1 chest slots or +1 loot to each chest?

[pulsar condor]

what are the best cards to 5*

[rustic garnet]

you get a bonus treasure

[haughty cove]

nightmare troll

[paper sail]

Chaotic troll in 1st place by a large, large, large margin

[digital sand]

so like you could get regular drop and rare drop from one chest?

[rustic garnet]

nightmare kattlekruck

well, you get another loot

not a differnt loot

[pulsar condor]

The first and only one I did was Nightmare troll

[lunar axle]

what card presets are good for mman/ vman?

[paper sail]

Skill Efficiency from Chaotic Troll is massssssive for samples 😲

[digital sand]

so 2 regular or 2 rare?

[pulsar condor]

RIP I need to farm Chaotic troll cards

[rustic garnet]

hmmm I think crystal spawn is a good one

[digital sand]

king doot is also a priority imo

[pulsar condor]

I dont really struggle with crystal

[rustic garnet]

struggle?

it's not about struggling

[vagrant jetty]

More is better

[rustic garnet]

it's about massive booming them

going from 1/29 to 1/27 is pretty big

[paper sail]

King Doot and Crystal Cards are decently easy to farm

[digital sand]

but who wants to farm doot for 5 stars lol

[rustic garnet]

oh you think I meant crystal cards

no, crystal spawn cards

[digital sand]

3 was annoying, gemmed it to 4 and 5

[vagrant jetty]

I also farmed for active exp to ruby

[paper sail]

wow

Farm Doot man. It is easy and shits out loot.

[rustic garnet]

You could afk farm these

[pulsar condor]

So genie and poo

[rustic garnet]

But this one is harder:

[digital sand]

only like 1 per day tho right?

[paper sail]

You can get multiple cards.. I was getting 6 per doot kill

[raven fog]

Guys which booger should i use cool bird or the worn or natto

[digital sand]

that is true

[pulsar condor]

I dont have the rift done yet 😦

[digital sand]

well to late for me lol

[pulsar condor]

I just bought a couple of level ups

Since I have nightmare troll already, Chaotic troll and chaotic kattle (?) would be the 2

[digital sand]

where can I see what the next sailing trade offer will be?

[paper sail]

https://idleontoolbox.com/account/world-5/sailing

Trades tab

[digital sand]

thanks!

[placid mural]

I feel like an addict checking the future content blog

[simple shuttle]

too soon he said weekend so saturday sunday thats when you start checking id say 🙂

[golden atlas]

I’d say if you see him logged into discord , he might be getting ready to post for the day. That might be a stretch though

[digital sand]

one of the only things I have notifications on for lol

What is it that makes dk better for statues then ES?

[pearl cedar]

Crystal kills is where you get statues

[fast grail]

ES doesn’t give dr bonus to crystals like DK does

[digital sand]

I see

[pearl cedar]

Except a few that drop from mobs like w3 skill statues that ES will be better at farming

[paper sail]

In this instance with 560 orb stacks, that crystal acts as if I killed 5.6 crystal enemies at my 16x DR

Where ES's drop rate only applies to Wormhole enemies, not normal / crystal enemies

[digital sand]

what should I use my SB for? Is he better at anything then anyone else? I know active on him makes smithing production and smelting crazy fast, but is that it?

[rustic garnet]

1 billion mob farm

then GMUISH

[pearl cedar]

Not active only afk for forge progress

[rustic garnet]

afk 1 bill mob farm

[simple shuttle]

yea green mush

[rustic garnet]

once you get a lot of 1 billions

switch him to GMUSH

forever, basically

also, aim for 1 million SB special kills

but that's a long time

[digital sand]

I saw someone say that would take over a year of active playing

that was before vman update that doubles it but still

[charred raptor]

2-3 months

[paper sail]

Lava skulls across the board is nice. Really speeds up BB Super Chowing

[digital sand]

I have my bb super chowing all of w1 now

[pearl cedar]

Its only like 52 days active for 1mil plunderous

[digital sand]

sb was trying to get the w5 vman weapon

but I should have him maxing death note basically?

[rustic garnet]

BB super chow will finish WAY WAY faster than 1 bill

I've got my BB going through W5 now

frankly -- candying that is worth your time, IMHO

[digital sand]

For sure

[rustic garnet]

it counts toward your 1 bill