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[rustic garnet]

grand

those are good targets

[little pagoda]

I'm fairly early in gaming and my speed isn't so high, so just like, trying to get more bits

[rustic garnet]

eh, hard to say really orlando

depends on how often you check your stuff

[little pagoda]

I can do pretty often

[rustic garnet]

if they are maxing out before you can check, kitusne is a waste

[lyric sequoia]

The unfortunate thing about your page 1 is that no one expected anyone to attempt to get blue that high, so the 2nd picture stopped at blue rank 15 😛

That being 45-26-15

[little pagoda]

Right, makes sense, but generally it's a net positive right

So just crank that mutation chance and let kitsune make my plants go zoom

[opaque sun]

If you are getting all tier 4 plants per your harvest interval, dont use kitsune. Else use kitsune

[rustic garnet]

no, its only a positive if you are active and stop them from sitting on max

[lyric sequoia]

For 16 it's be something llke 50-29-16, something like that

[little pagoda]

I don't even think I have discovered all tier 4 plants, I usually pick before

[rustic garnet]

that's a mistake then

you should discover tier 4 f

first

as you get a boost

[little pagoda]

I know but my growth cycle was like a few hours

[rustic garnet]

k

[lyric sequoia]

Which I would assume endgame folk have easily hit rank 50 red salt at this point considering mine is at 31

[rustic garnet]

yeah, as it's only sitting at 1 m

and it goes brrr

[little pagoda]

Well I will leave it on because I also want to rank up my shell, and discover those high tier plabts

[willow drum]

someone posted 143 red salt recently

[rustic garnet]

it is a reverse log

I'm guessing you hit a point where 1 cycle is 1 million

[little pagoda]

so, exponential?

[rustic garnet]

hmmm

not quite

[lyric sequoia]

143 red salt? Damn, hopefully they also have at least 22 nullo then

[opaque sun]

if you are not even seeing tier 4, then use kitsune

[rustic garnet]

it will eventually cap out at 1 million

[lyric sequoia]

Ya at 22

[rustic garnet]

as you can't store more than 1 million

[lyric sequoia]

Oh, you mean per cycle?

[rustic garnet]

yes per cycle

[lyric sequoia]

It'll spill onto the next available slot if the stack is full I think?

[rustic garnet]

you'll eventually get 1 million red salt per cycle

will it?

[opaque sun]

As long your plant cycles are not being wasted on tier 4, using kitsune is a net positive

[rustic garnet]

I thought it just stopped at 1 mill till you clicked it

I thought if you were sitting at cap , (rank up) you lost any extra?

[little pagoda]

Figured. It's gonna help me zoom in gaming even more

[opaque sun]

If salt says ready to rank up, its basically like being turned off

[little pagoda]

I already got so many bonuses than I even deserve with this new nugget lmao

[opaque sun]

theoretically it will be a 1m+ salts per cycle, and each cycle is like 1 min. So rank up every minute. In reality it will eat lot of mats to support that tho

[little pagoda]

I think I got like 30 gaming levels because every new character I go into I trigger level up bubble 20 times lol

Now I gotta figure an easy way through sailing too because I've been getting absolutely no artifacts for days and I'm only a week and a bit in

[lyric sequoia]

Frosty wave 120 finally in the bag, 15ish mins to break through this 2b heallth of the boss. Could be worse

[twilit goblet]

are w4 and w5 skill nodes just slow to collect cards on? im getting 17 after 8 hours on alien trees, wondering if it need to bump drop rate up or something. Currently 9.18 drop rate with cdr cards

[opaque sun]

Further in, the card rate gets worse

And some trees like alien log, lava accidentally added an extra zero to the base drop rate

[twilit goblet]

lmao frfr?

[opaque sun]

Like look at the base chance on the wiki

[twilit goblet]

probably faster to go tdo cubed now then i guess?

[lyric sequoia]

Yeah alien log cards are harder to get than dandelion atm

[twilit goblet]

alien 1 in 100000, dandelio 1 in 200,000

cubed 1 in 25,000, hello cubes

[plucky pebble]

How do the minor links work? do i have to have one guy linked to for example hamster so i get the buff for everyone or is it only to the guy whos linked to the god?

[opaque sun]

minor link uses the linked guy’s divinity level to apply a buff just on the linked guy

Unless the bonus specifically says “all characters”

[twilit goblet]

any way to force kraken card, aside from putting all the purple Stuff on?

[opaque sun]

Basically just purple depth gears and lure/lines

[twilit goblet]

got it, might take the longest then

[opaque sun]

It is

To a point people consider using ruby cardifier as its easier to farm that many gems

[twilit goblet]

was wondering if anyone still remembers how much having all skill cards at 4* helps with their sampling

[plucky pebble]

Does the characters divinity level matter?

[opaque sun]

for minor link bonus yes

[plucky pebble]

Does it scale by the characters level or what?

[opaque sun]

divinity level / (divinity+60)
Determines how close the effect of the minor link will be to the effect hardcap

[onyx bear]

fresh to w5, do i just not worry about lab once i get here

and just focus on divinity

nvm i read pinned

[plucky pebble]

Thanks👍

[tall horizon]

Got all other fish card to 5* without even putting a dent in kraken. Hell no, ruby that all the way

its so awful

[opaque sun]

faster to do boss/colo runs to farm the gem and cardify kraken

[tawdry steeple]

idk why but kraken for me was easy, I used candies on my BB from like 50-75 and got all hard resources cards

[frozen prairie]

id get like 1 kraken card per 10 of every other card lol

[tawdry steeple]

maybe I was just close or something, I did have vman fishing for a while

[dapper prism]

thing is, just 4* Kraken and you'd basically 5* the first 2 other cards in the meantime xD

I believe i even used cardifier

[opaque sun]

kraken to like gold is fine

but to ruby its a toughy

and with newly added fishing spots, we will be losing the “do kraken cards while we level fishing” as we wont be fishing at krakens for skill levels

[tender solstice]

I have some issues regarding divnity EXP. I have 7 Chars on Mantra(1exp to ALL Charracters) , and i get 3exp/hr for each char . But if i put them on chakra(2exp, 2 divnity) i get 6exp/hr instead. They have no prayers, and the bubbles are Constrution, hammer and the gift box.

[opaque sun]

whats the issue

the shared exp of mantra doesnt appear in the afk info as it uses a different mechanic

The shared exp just gets added directly

[tender solstice]

Mantra is suppose to give more exp to my chars, cause i ahve 7 chars, which is 7exp/hr. Followed by the 53% exp gain. When i log in after 8 hrs i just get 24 exp

Oh, so it doesnt show when i log in at the afk gained screen?

[opaque sun]

The shared exp doesnt boost the other character’s afk info. Its just that when you claim on a mantra character, the bonus exp is just added directly to others

[tender solstice]

Understood, thanks a lot!

[opaque sun]

spamming is relatively easy, just time consuming

1k keys takes like 3 hrs to use

And you also get back lot of keys so like half a day to spend all

[potent gust]

+1 yay

[frigid acorn]

Thats all i got from 1k keys

[serene forum]

Anyone have a guild i can join thats maxxed?

Like asap

[zinc torrent]

im W2 i js look in here to see the crazy complicated shit u guys havr going on

[crisp silo]

Look in the guild recruiting should be pretty good

[bold quiver]

question: Is guild hoping a thing for gems?

as in: can u get that weekly box everytime u join a new guild?

[vagrant mountain]

i think you only get it on weekly reset, no?

and weekly reset doesnt reset with new guild afaik

[bold quiver]

no idea

[crisp silo]

Boxws should be on yr weekly eset

So guils hoppin prob wont work

[bold quiver]

hmmm ok

[graceful bramble]

On what day are weekly guild boxes delivered?

[next locust]

Whenever your weekly reset is

[graceful bramble]

Is that a different day for everyone?

[next locust]

Yeah, check guild -> gp tab to see yours

[graceful bramble]

Oh, 63h left oof

Thanks

[twilit goblet]

is the cooking speed from this additive or multiplicative? thinking if i shud stay here for it or just change island since im not getting treasures fast enough to upgrade boat

[unreal fox]

how to get triple artifact bonus?

[next locust]

Unlock eldrich artifacts in w4 rift, then you can find them from chests. You need to find normal and ancient forms of said arti first of course

[unreal fox]

ty :3

[eternal echo]

guys super quick question. the divine trophy quest can be obtained by every character right? Not an account quest? Just to make sure how much I have to pray for RNG god

[crisp silo]

Char quest, but fro cape to count it needs to be dropped by that kattle to that char

Like if your es drops it, it only counts for es

So even if u equip it on others it womt count

[eternal echo]

and for the scarf you only need one for the account right?

got it! thanks!

[crisp silo]

Pain

[eternal echo]

very much, especially on voidwalker

[sharp wind]

Hampter farm finally done all 3400

[crisp silo]

3.4k does what

All wep plus the bag?

[daring rapids]

Anyone here have a copy of the idleon guide?

[ionic acorn]

Hello, stupid question maybe…I just got King Doot as a pet. Is says all divinities are active but which bonus is active? Because when I link a character , for example the first god, my stats changed

[crisp silo]

What

[thin rose]

what

[crisp silo]

Which stat changed

[daring rapids]

Is the characters divinity higher then 1?

[granite grove]

is the character divinity level 2 and above? odds are you have no gods activated at the start, and shenebatu gives that bit of def and acc

[ionic acorn]

Defense

[opaque sun]

main and minor link bonus all gets applies

[crisp silo]

What

Def??

The snak?

[thin rose]

minor link bonus is acc and def

[ionic acorn]

Level 1 I just started

[opaque sun]

Doot effect is deactivated when you play active in a char with divinity lv1

[crisp silo]

Ohhh

[granite grove]

snake minor link gives def and acc

[daring rapids]

Doot only applies to characters with lvl 2 divinity or higher

[ionic acorn]

Oh so I need to be 2 or above right?

[thin rose]

so like 10 min of afk

[granite grove]

make all character divinity to level 2 should stop the issue entirely

[daring rapids]

just put everyone on divinity for a day and call it good lol

[granite grove]

15 hours assuming x1 exp rate

[sharp wind]

Yepp all that

[ionic acorn]

Yeah they’re all praying atm

[opaque sun]

Even if you have 9 characters with divinity level 500 on each, doot deactivates on everyone if you are playing active on a character with divinity lv1

[sharp wind]

Except vial of course, im sure theres no one crazy enough to do it

[crisp silo]

Gotta get at least lvl4

[sharp wind]

[ionic acorn]

He gives major and limit stats ?

[daring rapids]

100 down, 400 to go? 😛

[ionic acorn]

Minor

Well tbh doot is my first pet lol I come back from a 6 months break

[granite grove]

go divinity lv540 for 9/10 of the max effect

[daring rapids]

lol. even 100 took ages 😦

[granite grove]

or lv120 for 2/3 of max effect

[daring rapids]

120 sounds like a good stopping point

all my non ES only at the 80-85 range as well

wanted all those quest rewards for sailing and gaming lol

[opaque sun]

For arctis talent pts break points, good to aim in multiples of 30

[serene solstice]

ok rng we need to talk about something

[crisp silo]

That is a very normal captain

[opaque sun]

But once you obtain sheepie with big p, divinity level break points become bit complicated

[crisp silo]

It is just like me!

[serene solstice]

thats not normal thats literally the lowest of the lowest

[crisp silo]

Could be a t5 cap rollin a 1%

[vagrant mountain]

coulda been cloud discovery

[crisp silo]

Could have been rarechest

[opaque sun]

Typical “i have a degree from college” that barely avoided to flunk guy interview

[serene solstice]

I still need many good captains with high loot value and boat speed...

[vagrant mountain]

wait rare chest is bad? 👁️ 👄 👁️

[granite grove]

captain effect negatively scales with sailing level fr

[crisp silo]

1%rarechest

Id rather loot/speed over rarechest

[granite grove]

rare chest is only good if base stat is like >100%, otherwise speed and/or loot

[opaque sun]

The graduated from Harvard green guys with 1% traits

[serene solstice]

the best captain is like a t5 with highest loot value and boat speed

[vagrant mountain]

lol

[serene solstice]

you want later boat speed and loot value because of upgrading boats..

[granite grove]

base rare chance chest needs huge buff to be useful

[opaque sun]

i also like to keep few high rolled artifact % captains as a preparations for any future artifact additions

[vagrant mountain]

i just chose rare chest chance cuz it looked cool 👁️ 👄 👁️

[serene solstice]

and because of this fucking last island

[crisp silo]

Yo that 0.03% arti value is surely gonna get a big boost right guys?

[opaque sun]

rare chest % as a stat is amazingly versatile. Issue is the game gives you in very small portion

[granite grove]

to maybe at best 0.3%, for maybe 2 chest out of 25 in a loot pile

[serene solstice]

my best boat with speed

xD

[vagrant mountain]

you only need 50m speed for 100m island tho right?

[serene solstice]

ye

a little bit more because of

[granite grove]

and bit more if higher SB level for minimum travel time

[vagrant mountain]

i see

[opaque sun]

loot trait vs rare chest trait is like a comparison of “you must choose one buff. Either +5000% damage, or 0.01% afk gain”

[muted bramble]

my best boat :/

[spice girder]

what bonus we talking here ? rift or something ?

[granite grove]

if lava buffs rare chest base rate by at least x20, maybe people will consider

divinity stat scaling

[serene solstice]

the speed comes from good captains and lvling it and obviously bubble and gods and cooking

[opaque sun]

Effect of divinity lv on minor link bonus

[granite grove]

it has decay formula to as (lv/(lv+60)) x Max x Big P bubble

[muted bramble]

is this considered good ?

[spice girder]

ohh the level of divinity, not the level of the gods ?

[opaque sun]

Its considered a placeholder captain

[granite grove]

okay to push new islands, otherwise its bad

[opaque sun]

Better than nothing

[granite grove]

you will eventually dump that captain at some point

[vagrant mountain]

if you got nothing better, boat speed x2 is better than boat speed + cloud

[granite grove]

double boat speed at least has long term use after getting all islands

[opaque sun]

Single trait of 30% only captain would do better than him

[granite grove]

cloud is a liability once exploration is done

[muted bramble]

this is what im working with right now, still missing the last 3-4 islands

[granite grove]

even the shite rare chest does sth than cloud if all is done

[opaque sun]

Issue with cloud captains is that they dont level for doing cloud discovery

And by the time you finish leveling the cloud captain, most likely the entire could finding is over

[granite grove]

ye, just dump high speed or all ships to cloud, and pray for long hour sailing procs

[serene solstice]

damn

[opaque sun]

When the best island to level captains is unlocked, it doesnt have a job

Guess in a way you can treat it as the flag rate cog in construction

[muted bramble]

question should i forgo all loot and put all captain on cloud discovery ? or should i aim for specific artifact before clouds ?

[vagrant mountain]

imo just dont grab cloud discovery

[granite grove]

wonder when will lava add 2nd cog page, just so flag upgrades and rates doesnt go to waste

or alternatively, convert some of flag speed to cons speed just so it feels less of a waste

[vagrant mountain]

you mean like cog slots on the board?

[crisp silo]

Arent there 3 pages for cog storage?

[granite grove]

cog board, not cog storage pages

[sharp wind]

Thanks to hampter its ruby now

[crisp silo]

Uhh but if we add another cog board, it kinda just has the same prob after a while

Anyways im fairly certain it id a good method to end the skill

[granite grove]

make the requirement really really high, like how construction requirement becomes brutal at some point

[crisp silo]

Cause each of the skills we get eventuqlly lava plans to end

So if we in like w7 we dont worry too muvb about w3

[granite grove]

like go additional 2^x or even 10^x for each step from center

[crisp silo]

Build rate is gonna tank again

Most likely it wont be worth it cuase build rate is alr infinately scaling with the current setup

So build req for buildings eventually can all be met

[placid mural]

i just had a string of 15 printer go BRRR before the CD didnt reset. . . .

i dont think ill ever see that again

[granite grove]

ik, its just that the point of 2nd board is there just so flag rates and gem shop upgrade doesnt go to waste, while 1st board is for main progression and to be unlocked in reasonable amount of time

at least divinity has higher god ranks to make use of divinity sparkie, despite the horrid exponential scaling in god ranks

[granite grove]

how much print hours did you got in total

[hardy quarry]

I had double digies yesterday.
I need eldritch to max it, but I had a week straight of no procs, then double digits, now back to no procs.

[steady token]

I'm curious how does Souped Up Tube's 2x xp work? will my exp multi become 38x or 20x if i have it👀

[crisp silo]

All exp bonuses are additive it think

[steady token]

ty

[opaque sun]

like adding a cog on top of a cog, or zooms out the board so that each slot is a size of a pixel

lava is kind of conscious of making new bonuses a separate multiplier to make it look attractive, but you can consider most things that were added prior to w5 are all additive as it was made in the era of Additive Online MMO RPG

[gray pagoda]

Do y'all think the expeditions will actually take as long as Lava says or is it going to be like the rift, where people just zoomed through it?

[granite grove]

time gated iirc if reading from the blog channel, might be bit different in reality tho, cant be sure

[gray pagoda]

Maybe. That's definitely a possibility.

[little pagoda]

I think there will be mandatory time gates, that in the future he will add ways to skip

He clearly doesn't want people to unlock everything in a day

[gray pagoda]

I don't really care if it takes a few days, I don't mind waiting. The bonuses seem to be pretty good though.

[little pagoda]

Yeah it's better this way tbh

As long as it's nothing too tedious

[placid mural]

does DR affect the standard mob drops at all? or is that just MK per tier that affects it

[lapis mesa]

huh, i have a new nugget, i have no memory of it dropping

[placid mural]

#?

[lapis mesa]

i remember being like 2700, now im 4500

[opaque sun]

Dr affects standard mob drops yes. Just that when sampling, it treats as 1.00x dr

when we have 100x dr, bloodbones will drop the bones 100% of the time

[empty ridge]

@bold quiver got to 84 with that setup you gave me thank you very much !!

[ocean lily]

any reason to upgrade or nah?

[opaque sun]

in relative to your current bit income, it doesnt hurt to upgrade it, but as of now it does nothing beside in anticipation for future update and/or future gaming levels masteries

[granite grove]

just if DR affects sampling, or even 10% of DR above x1

[opaque sun]

roughly 15x To 1.5x more samples

talk about the struggle to balance efficiency and drop rate gears/cards

[granite grove]

at least just for mob drops since skill resources already as multi ore/log/etc

also would be x2.4 more because 1+((15-1)÷10)

[brisk breach]

how do nugget chances work, im at +169% chance and still have the same nuggent since at least a month ago

[granite grove]

its likely its just (small base chance)×(1+(extra chance)) or something similar

[keen berry]

I tried equip and unequip the keychain, it doesn't boost the kills....is this thing work differently or am i just gotten scammed 750 gems for non-functional keychain ......

[crisp silo]

it shld

[granite grove]

its a snapshot stat, reenter map

[crisp silo]

might need to refresh map

[granite grove]

snapshot stat like mob respawn and card drop rate only takes effect after entering new maps

[keen berry]

I tried go to gem shop and go to another map, it still doesn't refresh.

[next locust]

Does speed still increase your kills/h? Might be you're still not at true kill cap

[granite grove]

map refreshed after equipping item? normally should work, considering mob respawn is usually stronger than MK per tier

[keen berry]

It doesn't work....

[keen berry]

I tried swap with afk gain keychain, it changed from 760k to 800k. But the respawn keychain just doesn't increase the kills.

[fiery crow]

Restart game, could be client is bugged

[wind umbra]

it definitely works. you probably just arent at kill cap for map so mob respawn doesnt affect anything

[next locust]

Yeah frogs map is huuge, so the speed required for kill cap is big too

[granite grove]

try test with movespeed potions

[keen berry]

It does change after i use the potion. Thanks.

I increased the speed from 195 to 300, the kill still keep going up. I used all 4 slot for speed food, what else can be use for increase movement speed?

[granite grove]

just 4 MS pots and check if extra afk% or dmg% or food effect% cardset effect makes the most difference, dont bother with the frog card for extra speed tho

[crisp silo]

The special talent that boosts boost food

'Frothy milk'

[keen berry]

The special talent only work for under 200 speed isn't it

[crisp silo]

Nope

+% to boost food

[twilit goblet]

is there a way to farm frothy malk? tried doing w1 colo babayaga 10 times with DK and didnt get a single book

[crisp silo]

Uhh big poop drops it

I think doot as well, babayaga dosent drop it i think

I get mine from poop

[opaque sun]

frog map is notorious of having extremely high speed cap

so move speed and weapon speeds affect a lot on that map

[sick kindle]

hello, i had 43 stacks on the upgraded apocalypse chow talent, for cooking, now it says i have 3, is this a bug? 😄

[twilit goblet]

ah just daily then

Big poop...

[worthy shoal]

W1 minibosses star talent and w2 minibosses star talent are different

[opaque sun]

Did you swap class around characters or do a device change (do you have 2 bb?)

normally, the game only checks the 2nd bb of family for super chows, but when you do device changes and stuff, the internal character may change which flips the bug to only look at the first bb for super chow kills

[zinc torrent]

With sheepie its completely irrelevant what bubbles i have equipped right?

[opaque sun]

yeah, with sheepie they only act as a personal cosmetic reminder marker

[zinc torrent]

Ok great. Not that I missed some weird bug or interaction

[opaque sun]

On doot, you need to link it purrmep on someone for the minor link bonus is like the only thing to watch out with companions (oddly, purrmep main effect applies regardless of linking)

sheepie makes all equipping big bubble complete irrelevant

[zinc torrent]

Something like this yeah. But good to know that some of his code works as intended

[opaque sun]

purrmep thing is kind of understandable tho as lava wanted to prevent applying sailing/gaming bonus 10 times

[zinc torrent]

Oh that is a problem? The money or afk gain are not?

[opaque sun]

And he couldnt code an exception to purrmep’s minor link

Like hare and goat you could have worn 10 of them before doot

But purrmep, you couldnt.

With doot, lava probably made a code to say “multiply the effect for same number of characters in family” but that would apply purrmep 10 times too

So he probably just wrote “except for purrmep minor link” and just let the normal link handle its effect

The main effect is probably fine as its just “turn on switch to double divinity? Yes/No” so saying Yes 10 times doesnt multiply them

[sick kindle]

yeah thanks, if i log on phone, to the first bb, i have the correct stack, if i log on pc on any class i get the lower stack, hope this will be fixed :/

[opaque sun]

look at mman with his right/left hands that had the same issue since his class release, and is still that way

[sick kindle]

sadness 😄

[little pagoda]

Isn't this supposed to be only from fishing? Uhhh crystal mobs?

btw is this literally useless if I have funny hat

[quasi meteor]

1+ slab

[little pagoda]

true

[opaque sun]

turban on a super stacked gold ribs might even perform better than paper boat

[little pagoda]

That might be true

I only have like 100 something of them though

[opaque sun]

since its not a crafted hat, potentially you can yolo mystery stones for misc +4%

[little pagoda]

I've never tried that, so it is still possible to increase misc bonuses with random stones?

[opaque sun]

as long its not an equipment made via crafting

[little pagoda]

Yeah I heard, but for some reason I thought this was patched eventually

[opaque sun]

So if real lucky you can make a 9% fish efficiency paper boat

[little pagoda]

Couldn't you make it even higher with random stone 3?

[opaque sun]

It used to also work on crafted gears too, but that part was patched out

mystery stone 1-3 all only adds +1 on a misc stat, like obols

[little pagoda]

It's a weird distinction tbh, some non crafted gear isn't hard to get multiple, others are literally impossible

[opaque sun]

So there is no real point of using mystery 3 as you dont care for main stats when rolling mystery

[little pagoda]

Ah I didn't notice it was only main stat, makes sense

[opaque sun]

The reason for the patch was, the misc rolled in previous gear carried over to the next, so like say mystery on bunch of normal rex, and carry over the rolled misc to serrated rex

[little pagoda]

idk, seems to be an unrelated bug but what do I know

[opaque sun]

Or like chiz boots having def misc of void boots carry over as second misc on chiz boots

So people were able to add second miscs of something you should not have

To prevent that, lava disabled all misc application (resets misc) on crafted gears

Theoretically you can, but too chicken to brick a limited item

Unless you filter paper boat, its a nice hobby to do to mystery paper boat

[little pagoda]

Seems like a super sweaty strat an endgamer could use to pass time lol

[opaque sun]

Fishing is back on the menu for next update

[little pagoda]

Trying to reach the theoretically highest possible fishing efficiency

[little pagoda]

True, might even have a paper hat upgrade who knows

Will hold onto this

[opaque sun]

Even at 9% paper boat, funny hat still probably wins due to how skill specific eff % and all skill eff % are different multiplier pool

[little pagoda]

They are different multipliers? Huh, neat

I might even get some use out of this anyway since I keep my funny hat with my maestro

[magic oyster]

vman for nightmare kattlekruk - whyyyy oh god whyyyy ;p

distracted for 5 seconds, all progress lost, ugh

[little pagoda]

Oh god new OP rare item with new update anyone

Can't wait to hate on my RNG

[frigid acorn]

cant wait to see people flex with new rare drop

[burnt wasp]

I feel like I am missing something to be able to link my ES to a second god. I have 38 points into the polytheism.

[frigid acorn]

so ... youre linking to kattle god with no bonus

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[slate brook]

I just unlocked my anvil page 4, and are considering upgrading void to lustre. im halfway through world 5, is it worth just forcing anvil page 5 or do you need to upgrade through anvil page 4 to get the armor on anvil page 5?

[runic girder]

Need troll armor for w5 armor

[frigid acorn]

anything in w5 require w4 gear ...

[slate brook]

Okay, so ill upgrade it through then

Then i wont rush page 5

[runic girder]

Yeh theres not much on page 5 that you can craft quickly

Thought the tools are pretty cheap there (still need the previous tier)

[frigid acorn]

the only thing important to get is bullet to get ton of smith exp

[cloud tiger]

What does "Scaled" Skill Efficiency mean?

[slate brook]

It means the higher level skill you have, the more efficiency you will get. Now for the numbers, i have no idea

[burnt wasp]

Ty, misunderstood how the linking worked.

[cloud tiger]

Ty 🙂

[worthy shoal]

The opposite

[slate brook]

Wait what?

[worthy shoal]

But it is the opposite.
The higher level you have the less efficiency it gives

[slate brook]

shut. up.

Really?

That makes no sense 😄

[cloud tiger]

Ahaaaa. So great for getting low skills up but tapers off

[desert adder]

just got vman, is there any good vids on how to re-talent for optimal?

[slate brook]

Is there any way to see the maths behind it or is it trial and error?

[crisp silo]

Ok so now i have 2 ppl saying very diff things about scaled eff, so like which is it

It counts 1

[lyric sequoia]

Scaled efficiency gets less effective the more sources of efficiency you have from elsewhere. It’s designed to be a boost if you were generally lacking

[crisp silo]

So its not based on lvls

[lyric sequoia]

No, efficiency

[crisp silo]

So more total eff = less scaled?

Huh always thought it wws based on skill lvl

[lyric sequoia]

It is in a way, because levels give efficiency

[crisp silo]

There really needs to be a proper eqn for this

[lyric sequoia]

So the higher level you get the less effective scaled is for you

[balmy harness]

I need some Kruk Tooth to drop and my drop rate is at 5. 73x% and the drop for the Tooth is at 1 in 10. What does my drop need to be to be at 100% drop?

[tacit tulip]

...10?

[balmy harness]

But why I sometimes get none and sometimes I get 2-3?

[tacit tulip]

Most bosses have multiple drop attempts Vs certain loot. I think 3 times is common?

For example when killing amarok you'll often see three cards, spread out in the loot pool

[granite grove]

some boss has like 1/5 to drop 2-3 of an item

[balmy harness]

okok

[opaque sun]

Bosses i think have innate gimmie gimmie effect of 3.0x
Which i think is also the reason why gimmie gimmie of mman dont work on world bosses

[tacit tulip]

That would certainly explain it

[opaque sun]

Even if a boss card says 1/1000, in reality you get to find at least a drop of that item in 3/1000 ish chance

[tacit tulip]

Been booking all my SB's damage skills this week in prep for deathnote

Amazed how much his damage has jumped

[opaque sun]

sb still is the quickest to get big damage, but is starting to be surpassed by DK with his theoretical infinite salt rank levels

[tacit tulip]

I guess with my prep I also need to go run colo 2 200 times for candy

And maybe camarok for the ruby card too

[opaque sun]

Might as well ruby those colo miniboss cards

[tacit tulip]

Finished the battery farm last night, too

Splicers for all

[pallid grail]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[dreamy spruce]

nice

[bleak coral]

How high should I push my shell in gaming? Been farming it with the cat rock and almost to 9 but not sure how high I should go till i swap off the rock

[quiet pewter]

personally id mostly ignore it and just let it level up naturally from however you normally game

youll be progressed locked on nuggets and snail however you play

[bleak coral]

fair enough. It just seems like the biggest bonus outside of those two so didn't know if it was worth pushing up to 20 or something

[vagrant mountain]

almost got the hourly clicks going (I wish I didnt lose my mining pearl)

[quiet pewter]

dude your catcher is neglected AF compared to the others

nice ore sample though

[opaque sun]

catching and fishing are potential hourly bubble clicks so yeah dont neglect those

[vagrant mountain]

oh i havent resampled my catching yet that's why 😆 i need to get some levels on them so they can use dreadlo

im bummed i lost my mining pearls, no idea where they went, would have had 50% more samples at least

[warm kayak]

Whats the god meta if Im active on DK

[jagged relic]

YES! New rng based items

This game just gets better and better!

[jagged relic]

It's such a bullshit way to slow down progression

[vagrant mountain]

yeah let me buy it

[tacit tulip]

I like how with all the descriptors of the items it doesn't say it's good

[vagrant mountain]

wtb crystal steak

[opaque sun]

maybe hare god to still print 3x of those ores on the active DK

When you use printer brr, you would park DK in lab anyways

[tacit tulip]

I always associt hare with being in lab and forget it works out of lab too

[jagged relic]

Time gate things sure, but rng fuck that

[opaque sun]

Sigils says hi from the time gate department

[jagged relic]

Okay nevermind, I retract that statement completely

Rng that doesn't get better over time is what gets me. I could be going for 2 months without getting an artefact

[crisp silo]

wts eldritch steak 1000 green

[tacit tulip]

I've been after Eldritch weather book for a good 2 months now

[zealous niche]

Still hunting ancient steak three weeks in

[nova heath]

Should i focus on getting ancient fury or other island relics? (i only got up to island 9 unlocked and 50k speed)

[stiff kayak]

i just got to world 5 and i dont know how to get the slab bonus

[opaque sun]

usually like unlocking artifacts and stuff

You unlock each features of the slab one by one

[stiff kayak]

with artifacts?

[opaque sun]

Like check wiki on sailing

[stiff kayak]

ok

[untold saffron]

what level is it worth atoming diamond chef to?

[opaque sun]

I did it to 750 where it says 1.3x effect

[random saddle]

Psstt another new only p2w item comint

[untold saffron]

the afk gain looking trophy? we know nothing about it yet

[opaque sun]

If you are not concerned with visual completion, 1.29x is at 250 ish

[random saddle]

No idea but in futurecontent spoiler

[untold saffron]

cheers

[opaque sun]

Not even sure if its trophy, or like a headstone of those rift bonuses

[red hearth]

Lava said "item" so it's probably not a Rift bonus

[lilac granite]

finally

can start getting bits again 🙂

this one took a while

[opaque sun]

10% all afk trophy for SB i guess

Cook BB will probably still use IS efficiency trophy

[random saddle]

Is there any huge boost if the meals are over 30 lvls?

[opaque sun]

well its a linear boost

[random saddle]

Oh

40 is max?

Or 60 with eld

[echo crag]

60

[random saddle]

I see

[tacit tulip]

30, the. +10 per artifact tier you've unlocked for the cooking artifact

[opaque sun]

Getting it to 30 is important for the atom bonus, but else its just more levels for the vman talent and the linear bonus that the meal provides

[random saddle]

So meals can improve 50% more

[rustic garnet]

last eldritch farm time

[opaque sun]

In practical sense, i think current meals are like 55ish

Getting to max 60 is still a bit tough

[random saddle]

Getting to 40 ald tought for me sadge

What did i do wrong

[opaque sun]

One more source of cook speed multiplier would push us up to 60

[random saddle]

So cook multi mostly come from that bub?

[opaque sun]

Probably you lacking with vman talent and/or super chow

[random saddle]

Yea vman at 207

Maybe i need to book it first

Do that atom + 10 lvl increaae cap with each lvlm

[opaque sun]

Vman talent scales exponentially so it becomes like trillion % more speed near the end

[random saddle]

I see ywa its goes vroom once unlock it

[opaque sun]

Library book atom gives one time +10 at lv 1

Lv2+ is just for raising the minimum lvl of book

[loud flower]

For farming forge cards, do the stack of ores matter? Like bigger stack = more cards?

[tacit tulip]

The opposite actually

You can get at most 1 card per stack

[loud flower]

So I should put copper in all slots and click as soon as 1 is done?

[tacit tulip]

You basically want a character with a tiny ore bag to pick all your bars up at the end of the day

[opaque sun]

I think to some degree it has like a scaling chance per withdrawn ore, but that hits a cap quite early

[loud flower]

Unfortunatly all my dudes have red bags

[opaque sun]

Like if its too small, the tab 2 forge card drops rather poorly

[tacit tulip]

Tbh you probably wanna wait until slot 11 in that case. You -can- do it your way but you'll go insane

[opaque sun]

But like around 1k or so it caps and drops fully i heard

[prisma drift]

Yeah I had to spend so much candy to 4 star forge

Gonna have to Cardify to 5 star

[loud flower]

Im leaning that way aswell. Need 4400 cards for ruby

[opaque sun]

i wanted the easy resource card set bonus, so i just yoloed with cardifier

[loud flower]

Yeah thats what im going for. Just missing forge and butter

[opaque sun]

400 something gems are relatively easy to farm anyways, especially with kattle keys now

and speaking of that, i should buy the rest of the cardifier before lava switches the limited time shop with an update

[stiff kayak]

what do i start investing points into?

[wary girder]

i dont think u should have that many points into portal unless your dmg is very high

[stiff kayak]

my ES has like almost 5M dmg and when he crits he does 90-150M (with lighting abilaty)

[wary girder]

use this guide for talents https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

yeah thats still not high enough to justify 100 points into portal

[stiff kayak]

and if i dont put points into portal where do i put them?

[wary girder]

my es is at like 16m and i only have about 40-50 points?

check the guide

[sharp wind]

W4 statues where to farm?

With dk

[tacit tulip]

Typically in w4

[prisma lance]

For boss keys is better a DK or ES?

[tacit tulip]

(I tend to do snelbies for the pearlers at the same time)

DK, it's a unique case

Most mobs drops are ES

[sharp wind]

Eh u mean the clams monster?

[tacit tulip]

Yeah sorry, clammies

Brain is in "card drop rate" mode

[sharp wind]

[prisma lance]

Speaking about w5 boss key here

[tacit tulip]

just finished the card drop rate cards, now going the general DR ones

[sharp wind]

I just finished hampter now my stiltmole card is ruby

[granite grove]

dont forget polytheism, double god linked is big part of ES kit, 1-10 points based on god link, and need 10 point to link Snehebatu (cant be 0 points invested)

[tacit tulip]

I typically align ES to bear then use poly to swap to what I need at the moment

Bear hare for prints
Bear snek for samples
Bear nobisect if I need kills for some reason

[stiff kayak]

yeah but i just got to w5 im still trying to get the 1st god

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-gif-25986978

[granite grove]

still keep at least 2 points for eventual bear god ig

[stiff kayak]

so i link myself to the mantis god than conect to bear god thru tab ?

[cinder birch]

you get more div points by having points in that talent even if you dont have a god unlocked yet it can speed it up a little

[twilit goblet]

does cards farmed before unlocking Ruby card finder counts?

[placid mural]

who is going to do the best for active farming for Gold Twine from flombeige, ES? or DK?

[dreamy spruce]

ES

[granite grove]

ES iirc, its on the 1st page of mob card drop, and DK doesnt do well in that map layout

[opaque sun]

i just pull out vman and candy that when making boots

[eternal echo]

is DK better than ES to farm W5 keys? I pulled around 30key/h on DK.

[spare cipher]

dumb question, Does "no more prayer" from sailing include the dungeon boosting prayer if you have it?

[dreamy spruce]

DK, mobs have too much hp for ES

[warm kayak]

When is a good time to go for ancient artifcats?

[sick sentinel]

the hp on wurms makes it tough for ES to get high portal scores

[sick sentinel]

maybe but the no more prayer is not worth doing

you lose out on too many boosts

[placid mural]

Item lava leaked looks kind of like a trophy no?

[spare cipher]

fair enough

[placid mural]

Afk gain trophy?

[prisma furnace]

ES is best to farm mob cards on right?

[sick sentinel]

yea, dk or bubo arent too shabby for some maps if you want to work on their stuff on the side tho

[bold quiver]

you are welcome, glad i could help

[quiet pewter]

what are peoples thoughts on the upcoming island expedition content?

[summer grail]

Characters finally hitting 5 on divinity is oddly satisfying. Need lab god so I can do both but my luck is running dry

[fallen jacinth]

hmm i wonder why there no breeding box

[quiet pewter]

huh?

[tacit tulip]

that's called a bed

[quiet pewter]

oh they mean PO box?

[tacit tulip]

that would make sense

overall they look kinda sick but not a big fan of "RNG reward" in the last message

If lava were to make a breeding box it'd need to be like Sailing/gaming. Not direct buffs to the skill itself as individual character doesn't matter

[echo crag]

depend on if the rewards are rng or if only the task are. cuz if its similar to guild task for gp thats gonna be fine

[opaque sun]

people mostly concerned how predatory

[tacit tulip]

As long as unlocking the islands isn't cancerous and there's an island for hard fish, I'm pretty sold on the update

[quiet pewter]

after last update i think he will play it safe on this one, im expecting f2p. we will find out later if hes going back to new gem types etc

[opaque sun]

his bank account says it was worth shutting up for 2 weeks

[quiet pewter]

im looking forward to the new content. not a fan of the weekly skill check with a 22 skill cycle though... thats like half a year

[lost topaz]

What do I need to do to get fishing speed lower? I have food on. I tried using turban and food effect startsign+Doubler; but it stayed at 3 second average catch.

What am I misssinngggggg

[bold quiver]

isnt active limited?

[devout thicket]

About Sailing. I know I should put my fastest Boat on Clouds but where should the other boats go? All into one island? Or is is better to spread them

[bold quiver]

Thats personal. Some people do all boats 1 island for artifact, some people like to farm previous islands to increase overall boats speed.
I personaly cleared my sailing by always keeping 1 boat on whatever island i needed 1 decent treasure, i never backtracked to farm speed.

[crisp silo]

which chara do i leave to auto for the rift lava skulls

i got my es finished

[bold quiver]

If i had 20 boats and 8 islands with 1 artifact i want at, i'd do 1 em each and other 12 boats spread betweeen either those 8 or focusing on 1

[fading cape]

Just got console chip for double star sign. Any star signs better than these chips for AFK BB super chowing?
I don't think so, but maybe something to replace pringle?

[bold quiver]

the afk ones

[fading cape]

oh yeah I guess it's +10% afk gains with double chip? Yeah probably better

[bold quiver]

multikill

this is the best chip setup for KPH - endgame

[lost topaz]

honestly I do not know, I've seen hotairs at 1 second I am pretty sure

[bold quiver]

hm no idea then i've never fished active to pay attention

[bold quiver]

food boost stamp

[lost topaz]

hmm that makes sense. It has to be food somehow

[bold quiver]

probably

[tacit tulip]

always time to celebrate when you see it

[glad mountain]

what's the best map to farm pecunia statues?

[sick sentinel]

if thats the money one i like clammies for the pearlers too

[fervent brook]

For ES is it better to double damage cards or DR cards?

[prime pebble]

how do I increase loot chest artefact chances besides captains?
they are soooo low, I haven't found like 5-6 artifacts yet and chances with an occult chest are ~ 1% or lower

[glad mountain]

gotcha ty

[heavy moth]

finaly

[fresh plank]

Is it me or being active on ES is better than Bubo? gettin more etcs on that one

[glad mountain]

what would be the best map to farm crystals in w1?

[gentle furnace]

Beans

[glad mountain]

tyty

[heavy moth]

i so hate myself XD used rucksack to craft glove and spent 2x 24hours candy for DN RIP

[gentle furnace]

Depends on what you're farming

Bubo is still best for money farm

[fresh plank]

Eh, been doing eclipse skulls and 5star cards atm

Better stay ES then?

[plush spear]

Is there a good maps for DK active farming at w5?

[gentle furnace]

For exp? Golden food? Keys?

[plush spear]

For golden foods

Maps that's come in my mind are oranges

[glad mountain]

and tremors

[gentle furnace]

Wurms is also good if you can 1 shot the crystals

[plush spear]

Okay nice gonna farm there and see where i got more crystals

Thanks guys

[glad mountain]

do the moles count for orb kills in kruks lair?

[quiet pewter]

no

[glad mountain]

sadge

[glad crow]

ay i got there

[fresh plank]

TOT Lv?

Wots TOT

[glad crow]

total level

[fresh plank]

Ohh

[loud isle]

active or passive card farming?

[plush spear]

Imho active since it's gives huge bonuses and can be doubled

[glad crow]

for what? because skills dont drop cards active

[loud isle]

for monster cards, going for all diamond at the minute

didn't know skill cards only drop afk 😮

[north pecan]

are monster xp while active cards additive to the class xp multiplier?

[pearl cedar]

No

[gentle furnace]

Multiplicative

[north pecan]

oh ok so it's much better to run does cards no my active char then

ty vm

another question? is it better to have crystal mob spawn chance cards doubled? or the active monster xp?

[gentle furnace]

Crystal

[quiet pewter]

test

[north pecan]

oh it's extremely rare at that stage

[pearl cedar]

Better to have doubled genie and doubled moon

[north pecan]

I see. thanks

[pearl cedar]

Most People late in the game filter them cause you'll get like 3-6 in an overnight session with DK or ES

[north pecan]

it's not as hard to get end game. I typically get a lot

yeah we just filter it out.. we only farm it for katt scarf

divine trophy is really good

[glacial venture]

the very first is the hardest...after that...kinda annoying^^

[north pecan]

too pass out

it's a w5 trophy for completing one of the questlines

[pearl cedar]

It all becomes relatively easy later. Like last time I farmed glass shards I think I was getting like 80ish per hour

[echo crag]

bit strong

[north pecan]

alchemy

[glass meadow]

I've been levelling lab and divinity together for the past 2 ish weeks. Should I keep going for the 1k divinity(lab already done) or should I start doing other things and complete divinity after some more bonusses to exp?

[minor pier]

confused about mantra. it says 1xp per hour for every character, so if I run mantra on all 10 that should be 10xp per hour for each of them? I only seem to be getting half of that

[pearl cedar]

Just play the game tbh,pick a character and rush to w5 get bonuses, then go back and learn to play the game

[glacial venture]

the afk mantra gain is dostributed when you log in the one with the mantra

doesnt show on others afk window

[echo crag]

you need to log on all 10 character in order like twice for them to get the proper exp

[minor pier]

ah.. gotcha. that makes a lot more sense

[glacial venture]

mantra is only given per FULL hour

[echo crag]

at least its 2 of the good ones

[muted sandal]

just unlocked eeldritch artis, trying to figure out which ones to aim for? got arti chance and currently have every boat on the sailing speed tablet, but not sure about after that - fury maybe? And should I still be spreading boats around islands or does it make sense to send them all to one place to target certain eldritch ones?

[eternal echo]

tablet, more sailing speed

[muted sandal]

yeah, that's what they're all on rn - trying to think about priorities for afterwards

[raven fog]

Guys what is the new (max) dr

With all this updates

[gentle furnace]

Fury and steak

[glass meadow]

doubt it, it would require updating previous worlds and anvil tabs just to add something that doesn't change gameplay at all just cosmetic tbh.

[echo crag]

maybe arrow head for more chance at better chest with marginally higher odd at artifacts

[eternal echo]

you should aim for ancient fury, it's a very strong one, steak too

[muted sandal]

haven't gotten steak's island yet sadly

I just got the speed to get to dungeon island in 2 hours

[eternal echo]

then fury and arrowhead are both good.

[muted sandal]

so I need a good chunk more speed to 2 hour trip steak

yeah ig Fury and arrowhead it is

ty guys

[eternal echo]

you dont need to be 2h to unlock it. Around 10h is good too. you should never wait that long to unlock new island, since normal artefact are pretty easy to get and the last ones are very strong

[glass meadow]

Does artifact chance decrease for each artifact on all islands or the artifacts from that specific island?

[oak pawn]

What mining level do I need for M5 area? I can't tell because I have this ongoing visual bug

[muted sandal]

I thought it'd probably take a long while to unlock with longer trips so I haven't been sailing any longer than 2 hour trips so far, but I'll give a longer trip a go

[gentle furnace]

Go bottom left

[eternal echo]

every artifact has it's own ''drop'' chance

[glass meadow]

it's the other portal to the bottom left

[dreamy spruce]

60

[oak pawn]

Oh mad

thanks lol

[glass meadow]

yes, but pretty sure I read that for each artifact you find overall chances decrease

[quiet pewter]

artifact odds go down with island, go down with rarity of artifact, and are summed if more than one artifact available

[eternal echo]

for island discovery, you should at this point. having 2h on the last islands is a very long way to go. put 2-3 boats on island discovery (usually your fastest) and the rest for mats/artifact

[muted sandal]

alright will do, ty

[glass meadow]

Guess wherever I read that was wrong since wiki formula doesn't include anything of that notion. Weird... don't even remember where I read it.

[graceful rivet]

does worship power increase gains for xp?

[glass meadow]

pretty sure only skill exp and max wave reached are the only things that effect worship exp gain.

effeciency effects the amount of souls though

[haughty cove]

LETS GOOOO with shit lvl towers still hit 100 wave

[dreamy spruce]

nice

[haughty cove]

my highest tower is 20

and lowest 9

void tower 1

[dreamy spruce]

what lvl is poison?

[haughty cove]

9

kraken 10

party 22

[zinc torrent]

Those are rookie numbers.

[haughty cove]

ice 20

[dreamy spruce]

you even did it on ES? nice

[haughty cove]

thunder 15

[haughty cove]

i don't need op lvls to do tower defence

nether bowman

omg the game so laggy now

5fps

ok i think its the end for my tower defence run

sad

[upbeat trout]

what traps should i use to catch them critters i gain incredibly low amounts

all of my guys have steel bos and 2 of them have meaty box

[mild wadi]

You'll need them for wave 105+

[haughty cove]

well sure but not for now

[mild wadi]

Set traps with your maestro to get bonus exp for a few captures. Then set them with your hunter to get more critters and upgrade traps

[haughty cove]

wave 101 is enough

[eternal echo]

does the skillrod nanochip works with infinite star signs as well?

[upbeat trout]

what box/time are you using to get good amounts, i get only like 4k frogs... also it mattersa who set up box ?

[lament jasper]

what i do

[grand karma]

only on the star signs you actually equip

[eternal echo]

I got hyped for a sec lol. Thanks

[grand karma]

yeah, we wish lol

[grand karma]

book those numbers up if u can

[lament jasper]

Insane blue salt shortage i can't really up the max lv now

[grand karma]

you should set up on your bm for amount of critters, maestro for skill exp

[grand karma]

well then you’re done for a minute with dmg preset, mostly until fury relic

[lament jasper]

which island is that

[grand karma]

uhh the 300k speed one

[lament jasper]

damn

[grand karma]

keep in mind you only need half the speed for it

[lament jasper]

im at like 12k speed lol

[grand karma]

you’ll get there eventually, no worries

[lament jasper]

having 250 available points is sso frusstrating though lol

[grand karma]

yeah i mean eventually you will need them just not now

[fervent brook]

Hampter farming is not nearly as bad as I thought it would be with DR prayer on (for AFK characters) and with Active ES

[opaque sun]

used to active bubo on them before ES talents were added

[radiant lodge]

what lvl should printer go brr be?

[opaque sun]

240 for 7 hrs

200 for 6 hrs

X% chance for no cooldown effectivity caps at 70% though

[radiant lodge]

does it get bugged if the lvl is higher than max

[haughty cove]

oh hi

sup

[opaque sun]

Its doesnt bug

But like raising brr from 240 to 245 does absolutely nothing

[lament jasper]

Hello !

[haughty cove]

good news i only used 1 charecter to clear rift 15 and its took hem around 16and half hour to get 1mil kill and after that i got HUUUUGE boost from the rift bunos thingy after rift 15

[lament jasper]

Niiice, yeah rift 15 bonus is greaaaat

[haughty cove]

im happy af now

[lament jasper]

Idk whats the 20 bonu

[haughty cove]

same

but i think its black skull from death note

maybe

idk

[lament jasper]

ooooh yeah true

[haughty cove]

btw how you doing?

[lament jasper]

i donty even have purple skulls everywhere ill wait to do this then

[haughty cove]

yah not worth tbh

1bil kill is just insane

(for me actually)

[lament jasper]

I'm doing good, repairing my keyoard in the meantime of my ES farming w5, wbu

[runic girder]

Imo the black skulls should be a later reward then 20

[haughty cove]

for reall?

[runic girder]

Noone at rift 20 is getting 1b kills on anything

[lament jasper]

real

[haughty cove]

nice
done with working on my vman and other charecters skills to get better bunos from rift 16
and i got past wave 101 in goblin s

kinda happy

[lament jasper]

except maybe gmush lol

[runic girder]

Not even

[haughty cove]

still take alot of time

[runic girder]

(Also frogs are easier)

[haughty cove]

even if you have 1mil kill per hour

[lament jasper]

oooh nice, oh many portals on vman

[haughty cove]

you still need 1000 hour for 1bil kill

[runic girder]

Exactly

[haughty cove]

i think 31 portals

[haughty cove]

for now

[haughty cove]

maybe lesser

[lament jasper]

damn mine weak af hes at 17 lmao

[magic fjord]

Oh man, burned through a whole bunch of candies levelling skills... but completely forgot that worship and anvil jumps each time. Wasted probably weeks of those as they would have filled up stupid quickly.

[haughty cove]

my vman have like 13mil dmg for now and he only use speed pots

[haughty cove]

it well get to 15mil soon

[lament jasper]

i gotta upgrade his gear soon just need more snowflakes

[haughty cove]

these is vmans gear( old picture but same gear until now)

[lament jasper]

starting to works on greenstacks too

[haughty cove]

nah i dont work on them until like i could sample 100mil oak logs

after that i would work on green stacks

[glacial venture]

better do it asap

[haughty cove]

im at 1.6-1.5mil oak logs per hour now

[lament jasper]

2% per greenstack is really good imo

[glacial venture]

its a huge difference once you have it rollin

[haughty cove]

its not worth honestly

[lament jasper]

i could work with those

[haughty cove]

its total dmg% our all dmg%?

if its base then its hella worth it

[glacial venture]

a lab node even raises it to 3.5%

[sonic radish]

either way ive been raising mine slowly

[lament jasper]

which one

[lament jasper]

not sure but damage is damage lol

[haughty cove]

i have the dmg i need for now

[glacial venture]

Emerald Rhombol...but must correct...its 3% not 3.5%

[lament jasper]

always need more

[lament jasper]

still great imo

[glacial venture]

whats your current dmg?

[lament jasper]

mine at 79 lol

[glacial venture]

not you^^ kaneki^^

[lament jasper]

oooh ^^

[glacial venture]

79 what btw?

[haughty cove]

180mil on es i can rise it to 200mil if i want

others have 50mil+

vman 13mil for now

[lament jasper]

M

having two XP cards on so might get it a little higher but need XP

[steady beacon]

I just unlocked vman, and did my first run. But when I switch to my second skill set, it says I have 0 vman skillpoints. Am i missing something?

[signal osprey]

Put a point in the speedrun talent

[lyric sequoia]

Max chess too

[steady beacon]

that did it, thanks! needed a point in the chess set, to then put it in the speedrun talent, which then gave me my points back. Thansk!

[dreamy spruce]

whats a good crystal spawn chance on not vman?

[gentle furnace]

1 in 29?

[granite condor]

Just got Tenteyacle to lvl 200 Any other good lvl 200 skills?

[prisma drift]

1/34 is the base line for crystal cards and doubler

Getting lower takes a decent shrine level/ stamp level

[dreamy spruce]

Seems like I'm still a way off then, only at 1/95 rn

[prisma drift]

That’s 5 star doubler cards

[dreamy spruce]

I guess thats to be expected without card doubler / ruby cards

[raven fog]

Not really but so many skills worth maxing

[fresh plank]

Do I use the blue or orange swap token to swap from Bubo to ES?

[fading cape]

https://tenor.com/view/finished-elijah-wood-lord-of-the-rings-lava-fire-gif-5894611

[dreamy spruce]

Grats

[oak hemlock]

Active?

[fading cape]

Active ES.

11.6M kills

[oak hemlock]

👍

Nice

[sly plank]

my bubo has mana and drop PO boxes at 200, which one should I max first? I have choco chip and 200+ tent eye

[tough tusk]

the orange

[fading cape]

mana for the cooldown reduction

[sly plank]

thank you

[safe harness]

is 5% highest silver pocket change obol or do they need to be rr like pops?

[copper river]

The Crystal chance one

[sly plank]

conflicting answers, I will raise them evenly

[copper river]

Mana one is better for everything except active Crystal farming so depends what you plan on doing

Crystal farming will give you a stupid amount of pens which you can use to pretty quickly max out the rest of your PO Boxes

[sly plank]

fair points, thanks for your help

[indigo adder]

I should be pushing world 5 with bubo right? I'm almost to wurms. Asking b/c pushing on my dk or sb who isn't even as decked out feels so much smoother. How much damage do I need on bubo for effective world 5 active farming?

[sick sentinel]

you can push with whoever rly, bubo works best when you can one shot with your gas to cycle your skills faster

aura build works too and gets better with 200 tent

if dk or sb feels better to you they are fine as well

[fathom lagoon]

Which recipe?

[mossy trellis]

Can anyone please help me figure out what im missing (happy to link IE if that helps):
class leveling up to ~325 with my DK was a breeze... but beyond 330 has been a major crawl... what am I missing?

[sick sentinel]

higher grind time bubble

its the biggest exp source for class levels

[mossy trellis]

can you make sure theres nothing else major plz? my DK is 8th toon:
https://wippaz.idleonefficiency.com/

@sick sentinel

[sick sentinel]

all you need is grind time bubble levels rly

play soem bubo and dump liquids into it

[mossy trellis]

ok thank you!!

[sick sentinel]

also use exp while active cards, they are multiplicative to your class exp

the monster exp ones are smol

[mossy trellis]

do you have an example build I can see for ref plz? @sick sentinel

[twin token]

Is it worth to put a bunch of exp gains stuff on my divine knights for more construction progress?

[sick sentinel]

just an example rly, u can fill with other stuff u need. crystals are your biggest source of exp you get from mobs so if you have doublers use it on those. pump any other crystal chance you can as well. top row is exp while actie cards and then fill with other stuff you need like dmg or maybe a couple exp from monsters cards

[mossy trellis]

dude thank you so so much for this!!!

[sick sentinel]

cons doesnt work like that, you get exp from their specialized talent and cog board stuff/obols for build speed

[indigo adder]

Is having 2x sb and 2x es still meta if you have king doot? I don't have a lot of wormhole kills yet so maybe that's why the double es feels lackluster

[dreamy spruce]

it is

double es doesnt really benefit from wormhole kills though

[indigo adder]

ah, so what is the benefit of double es?

[sick sentinel]

2 es is imo still slightly better because of charge rate reasons

for worship

[indigo adder]

oh ok

[sick sentinel]

but its closer now

[indigo adder]

that makes sense too

[sick sentinel]

and 2 sb over 2 bm by miles

[dreamy spruce]

yeah

only thing that might be better than second ES would be 2nd BB

[indigo adder]

what would i be using 2 sbs for? do i not get double the plunderous mob benefit?

[sick sentinel]

i could see that working but we dont know how classes are going to be in the future

no you dont get double benefits from any class

[dreamy spruce]

mainly gmush kills and bars

[tacit tulip]

Decent damage for deathnote, and more bar printing from being an archer

[sick sentinel]

talent related

[dreamy spruce]

the account wide buffs dont stack

[indigo adder]

ah, do we end up being limited by bars?

Oh, I guess some bubbles and stamps use bars instead of ore

[sick sentinel]

for vials and such

need 1B of them to max em eventually

[indigo adder]

so afk kills count towards that skill too

[sick sentinel]

yep and i could be wrong but i believe it works better afk

[indigo adder]

okay sweet, guess i never really questioned it

[sick sentinel]

not sure if active counts multikill towards that as well

[indigo adder]

yeah my bubo doesn't have dmg to one shot world 5 mobs yet T_T
being as loaded as possible, i'm at 90M low end dmg

[sick sentinel]

its fine to active other classes then, build up your account to the point you can take advantage of bubo

def do you daily cranium cooking on weaker mobs tho

[dreamy spruce]

farming citringes even when aura doesnt 1 shot is fine

it gives a load of exp

[sick sentinel]

ye try out the aura build sometime to see how it works

[indigo adder]

yeah trying to max out my citringe card

[dreamy spruce]

what do you add for poison build? canisters?

[sick sentinel]

pretty much

[indigo adder]

what are good maps for cranium then? since i can't do any world 5 maps fast enough yet

[sick sentinel]

floms and cans

whats your crit on bubo

[indigo adder]

65

[sick sentinel]

was your max dmg 90m?

[indigo adder]

no that's min dmg

i don't remember my max, probably 180

[sick sentinel]

floms should do fine

[indigo adder]

k 🙂 thanks

[dreamy spruce]

I farmed citringes with aura with less dmg than that

[indigo adder]

i tried cans and the extra layers was too weird

[sick sentinel]

np, keep checking in on ojs tho

[clever cradle]

deos royal sampler reduce lab and divinity exp?

[sick sentinel]

no

[clever cradle]

ty

i assumed it didnt but wanted to double check

[sick sentinel]

no worries

[placid mural]

I wonder if we will be able to see what you get from each island before unlocking them

[quiet pewter]

the future content vote is weird. basically, "do you want strategy in the game?" yes/no

[opaque sun]

“you want something good or something bad? i know its a hard decision”

[signal osprey]

Strategy is too much for some players

Just tell them what order to unlock everything or their brains shut down

[quiet pewter]

tbf teh 22 no voters will be instantly here demanding the optimal order

[granite grove]

strategy is nice, this one is different though since it could give a chance for ppl to fuck up, not that it matters much though since unlocking islands wont be a thing to be done long term

still a yes to vote though

[quiet pewter]

if you cant fuck up, its not strategy

[echo crag]

considering ppl install the game and first thing they do is come here and ask how do i put my talent... strategie doesnt mean much

[fathom lagoon]

Someone going to build an optimal guide within a week anyway

So either way it’ll be brain dead for us

[granite grove]

ik, its just that this one cant be undone, regardless its just a matter of time to unlock all islands so a mistake wont leave permanent account damage in some way or another

[quiet pewter]

i put all my talents in luck but my wiz still sucks at mining, help plz

(its a real example)

[fathom lagoon]

Try agility, it speeds up pickaxe swinging

[granite grove]

more damage makes pickaxe swing harder, extra ore drops

[fathom lagoon]

Is there a beta yet or nah

[echo crag]

nah its all about that wis, to properly discern the weak spot in the vein to make it easier to break the ore

[quiet pewter]

the whole game technically

[echo crag]

ios is probably still on alpha then

[fathom lagoon]

Finally got my first green coin

[echo crag]

now make an orange one XD

[granite grove]

get more by bubo active with choc chip and doubled crystal cards

[plush spear]

Where the best bubo's cranium cooking maps?

[quiet pewter]

oj

[granite grove]

if w5, tremors or oj iirc

w4 cans or jellyfish

[plush spear]

Nice, thanks

[fading cape]

this was beginner gloves

[pulsar condor]

whats the difference between having characters perma hang out in Lab vs Div?

[sick sentinel]

div gains vs lab gains?

[pulsar condor]

But with the god connects

I have everyone at 75 lab too

[sick sentinel]

do you have doot

[pulsar condor]

no 😦

[sick sentinel]

then having chars in lab lets them 2x print

[pulsar condor]

But connecting to arctics doesnt do that?

[sick sentinel]

it does but you can use other gods as well

like harriep/omni/purrmep

[granite grove]

lab with goharut god can benefit on leveling everyone exp (lab exp share and div mantra) or unlocking gods

lab with harriep for x6 print

lab with omniphau for afk claims

if purely div, probably best to go with omniphau or purmepp

[pulsar condor]

Probably also mention I have all of the gods unlocked, no god rank, and no one is at level 80 div yet.

[sick sentinel]

get at least 1 to level 80 to ge tthe multitool stamp from the lampars npc

[granite grove]

what about lab levels? or yeah push for that stamp first

[pulsar condor]

Ya that's what 1 of my ES is doing rn

lab is all at 75

[granite grove]

ok so goharut is obsolete for you now

[pastel heath]

hey guys so i reached lvl 40 in gaming what are superbits?quick explenation?

[granite grove]

buffs to be unlocked/purchased with bits

[pastel heath]

[granite grove]

which also works outside gaming

[pulsar condor]

I guess overall Im becoming stagnant in pushing towards that true endgame. Like Im pretty good, but its all those little things

[quiet pewter]

new content this weekend at least. you could always take a break to avoid getting bored of the game

[sacred arrow]

Im pretty new to w5 anything i should do in particular or focus on?
https://dragovitch.idleonefficiency.com/

[pulsar condor]

Here's a good one: Tierlist of cards to 5star

[lusty wedge]

I'm honestly not a fan of the Islands increasing price based on order bought. This will just create a meta that will require a lot of external research or waiting for others to mess up first. Makes the whole thing into a waiting game for unlocking

[tacit tulip]

My plan immediately went to "wait for someone to figure out best island"

tho tbh if there's one which obviously has hard fish I'm starting with that one

[tall horizon]

Stamps

[heavy moth]

wonder what kind of bonus there ll be

[spring jasper]

With this, should i wait or harvest?

[heavy moth]

was is a + 4K wis gain from what he posted

[tall dirge]

any one got link to TD guide