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[swift hatch]

IE

[fervent yew]

idleonefficiency.com

[hollow wasp]

ty

[swift hatch]

just make sure to level weapon as much as you can oncec you max out the basic stuff, it gets to a point where the basic weapon even if you get ultra cucked on RNG items is strong enough to clear those eldritch frogs

get like 700 damage alone from the weapon or more not counting the rest of your gear.

[zinc torrent]

Perfect. Got sheepie from my free companions. The incentive to spend just a little money is gone. Fuck the existence companions

[hollow wasp]

k my DK is like that now. worth going w2 colo with him for the card talent chance?

[swift hatch]

I just want a rift slug man, 25 talent points is a lot

[zinc torrent]

And unrealistic to get f2p during rotation

[hollow wasp]

idk why all my chars besides my ES is so super weak lol

[swift hatch]

yeaaaah....

[hollow wasp]

does 100 char lvls does so much

[swift hatch]

all I got so far T_T

Got sheepie like 4 times lolol

[swift hatch]

That's a lot of skill points,

[hollow wasp]

i need 39500 more green gems for guaranteed doot

[zinc torrent]

Last one id appreciate but won't get is ram. Storage anywhere is good qol. But it's cool to know that well never get an f2p access to that bonus

[hollow wasp]

thats like 400$ lol

[viral snow]

Maybe unbalanced alchemy bubbles
But my ES is also my strongest just based of dmg numbers

[hollow wasp]

wait my math isnt correct is it

that sounds to much

[swift hatch]

I refuse to give lava money for these pets xD maybe if they weren't "green gems" but uhhh they are so I don't.

[hollow wasp]

158 more for guaranteed doot, one is 250 gems

so its 158*250, isnt it

[dreamy spruce]

is prob ~40k yeah

[swift hatch]

My Siege Breaker dwarfs any of my other people sadly, and it's not even close, it's like 400b damage to like, 100b at most on my Bubo/ES xD

[zinc torrent]

Lava defenders will come around and tell you that its necessary or dev will starve

[swift hatch]

look, I've support lava. And Will probably do so in the future, but not with the pets that conventiently use a different currency that you ccan't earn for free lol

[hollow wasp]

its 400$, i just threw in 20$ today to try it but it doesnt even seem worth at this point

as i have all other pets

and thats just straight up 400$ blowing for the doot

[zinc torrent]

Thats the point

[hollow wasp]

if i would get any other benefits by any chance ok well whatever

but its only this 1 pet

[swift hatch]

It's a good fucking pet, but man is that not worth the money to me xD I'll just keep manually doing my divinity gods

[zinc torrent]

As if anyone would ever trade a doot (if trading comes ever, which i doubt)

[hollow wasp]

i'd give 1 ram 2 crystal thingy for 1 doot xd

[opaque sun]

when companion batch 2’s doot equivalent arrives

[hollow wasp]

question is if pet rotation 1 gets removed with rotation 2

if these pets getting unobtainable

[stiff prairie]

I hope they dont.

[zinc torrent]

Lol they'll stay. Unobtainable but active

[swift hatch]

they'll ccycle like chips im sure

[zinc torrent]

Otherwise fomo wouldn't apply

[opaque sun]

“All bubbles have 1.5x more effect (going over their original effect cap)”

[zinc torrent]

Make it 2,5x

[stiff prairie]

"Multiplier bubbles apply to every bubble"

[hollow wasp]

chaotic amarok pendant is bad for DK right

[stiff prairie]

So orange green and purple multiplier bubbles would also work on yellow

[hollow wasp]

i want this

[zinc torrent]

Its not good. But if its the only thing you got its aight. Cheap to craft

[hollow wasp]

can my DK defeat the hardest chizoar

[viral snow]

You want the yellow version of it

[dreamy spruce]

easiest chizoar is better for them

[viral snow]

Just do normal for the drop

[hollow wasp]

oh this one

but looks green for me instead of yellow

[viral snow]

Yeh youre right its more green

[hollow wasp]

1:1000, should i just run him with my DK ? or doesnt it matter

[dreamy spruce]

vman has highest dr so would be best

or mman

assuming you have enough dmg

[viral snow]

Doest matter
Just use the char with highest DR

[viral snow]

And this

[hollow wasp]

my Mman is hella weak i think

[dreamy spruce]

you dont wanna do 100+ chizoars when you dont 1shot him

[hollow wasp]

can he kill?

[viral snow]

Kill xes but not oneshot

[pulsar heart]

chizoar 1 has 20m hp

[hollow wasp]

hmmm

[fading dust]

Anyone got the best card presets for passive skill mastery cards?

[hollow wasp]

i dont even have alot of keys

[pulsar heart]

run w3 colo for easy keys

[hollow wasp]

100 keys, possible to get the scarf?

[pulsar heart]

should be

maybe not with 4x dr idk

[dreamy spruce]

would take on average 250 normal runs

[hollow wasp]

best i can do stat wise with my maestro

[paper sail]

Fill last 2 with whatever gives you most base stat. Could be a flat card like Flying Worm for INT, Stilted Seeker, etc.
Remove chocolate box if speed capped without it.

[hollow wasp]

also i realized reaching chizoar will take quite some time with maestro

[haughty cove]

what is the fastes way to get black dna?

[swift hatch]

Doing Arena for eggs and trashing those constantly lol

if you don't have the arena runs tho, just a waiting game

[haughty cove]

arena give black dna?

what?

[swift hatch]

arena gives eggs you can use to refil the pets

then you trash the pets from that and they give you the DNA

[zinc torrent]

Dk multiplies colo drops

[dreamy spruce]

I think he meant colo not arena

[haughty cove]

arena gives egg?

[haughty cove]

AHHH that make sense now

[haughty cove]

if the pet have more power i get more dna?

[opaque sun]

its just purely per pet trashed

[hollow wasp]

worth going for the recipes or do i just max the printer samples and go for the recipes after?

[dreamy spruce]

chiz set is good

[opaque sun]

Its stats and what egg it hatched from doesnt matter for dna

[dreamy spruce]

really good even

[hollow wasp]

i use dementia atm, if i make my other guy more advanced in mining i can get the void armor, i just miss the ores

[opaque sun]

sample size is easy to reach cap of 90%

assuming you are using royal sampler

[hollow wasp]

what this

[paper sail]

Not trying to be an ass, but there are channels for questions specific to worlds

[dreamy spruce]

its best prayer

[opaque sun]

how did you reach w5

[hollow wasp]

oh the sample size prayer?

i just dont know all these names

also i didnt mess alot with the tower defense stuff

i rly need this snowman souls for anvil tab4 >.<

[dreamy spruce]

tab 4 not that important

[opaque sun]

amazing you got to w5 at that state

[hollow wasp]

half way trough w5 already, at citringes

[dreamy spruce]

getting to w5 really not that hard

I also got t4 in w5, though I did at least have void armor

[fresh plank]

Does trapping food get used on putting the traps, or collecting?

[hollow wasp]

i have like 400h gametime tho (active)

[dreamy spruce]

Collecting

[fresh plank]

Tenk

[dreamy spruce]

but everything in tab 4 needs green salt or better, so unless you have some of those not worth

[fresh plank]

If a card is already passive, can a chip double it still? xD

[hollow wasp]

ima use up all my chizoar keys now, hope for the scarf. 4.15x droprate

[gray thicket]

What arena gives eggs?

[dreamy spruce]

w4 colo

[gray thicket]

There was a colosseum that I didn't know of

cool

[fathom lagoon]

I saw someone else ask this and they told them no

[fresh plank]

Oof

Guild said yes tho

[fathom lagoon]

Oop well idk lol

[opaque sun]

It doesnt

chaos chiz used to be able to double, but later it was changed to a passive card so it cant any more. Some people reading old guide misbelieves they can double chaos chiz card due to that

[hollow wasp]

36 keys used

nicuuuu

ima try get a second for other char aswell

[fading dust]

Can you test quickly?

Nvm, the card doubler doubled my kraken, but I got 20% instead of the expected 24%. So it might be lower

[amber dragon]

I just enter w5, which bubbles should I prior

[hollow wasp]

nice got my second scarf after another 34 keys

whats the char order again, from top left to top right to bottom left to bottom right, correct?

[dreamy spruce]

1,2,3, big skilling bubble

[fresh plank]

Time to redo all the printers 🤡

[hollow wasp]

where do i find the cooking cahrt again what is best ingredient for what recipe?

[fervent brook]

I assume everyone uses Ruck Sack when using up Worship right. I don't see any other uses for it.

[echo crag]

active es when farming mob drops

[dreamy spruce]

ie

[fervent brook]

That also makes sense.

[gray thicket]

What exactly does Voraci do in gaming?

[red slate]

should I save points for when I'll be able to do the boss armor or just max the stat talent before?

[gray thicket]

Should I have collected it after collecting the other plants?

[echo crag]

grow additional plant if you got space for them

[fervent brook]

Glitterbug sounds completely useless

[quiet pewter]

id recomend trying to make gaming as non tedious as possible, use collect all unless theres a chem on the screen. its not optimal, but optimal gaming can take a long time once you start getting a lot og sprinkler and log refills

[gray thicket]

Log?

[quiet pewter]

log

[gray thicket]

log

[quiet pewter]

its a green log, gives you gaming progress

thats actually a cat, which may be the source of your confusion

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-log-gif-4116499

log for refrence

[next locust]

Can confirm. It's a cat

[sly plank]

is it worth trying to farm silver pens with DK without choco chip?

I have 1 in 74 crystal chance, so I've got room to improve

how can I improve crystal chance aside from the two cards and the stamp?

[echo crag]

po box

and shrine

[sly plank]

oh yeah, and the star talent

thank you

[dreamy spruce]

Which star talent?

[sly plank]

it's on page 1, crystal 4 days

[tulip kayak]

surely im close to kattlekruk

[dreamy spruce]

Thanks

[fathom lagoon]

Which map is cattle at

[tulip kayak]

like 3 more

[forest crown]

is there something that prevents you from getting exp from tranqi?

[hollow wasp]

whats the second best char to level up? i have my ES on 225 and all others only around 120

[sly plank]

bubo and DK

bubo first IMO if you haven't unlocked all your bubbles

[hollow wasp]

i dont

13% chance i fail like 30 times

its crazy

[sly plank]

just active bubo

[echo crag]

meh last set of bubbles are like 2 chance

[sly plank]

you'll finish your bubbles in like a week

[hollow wasp]

hmmm do i?

[echo crag]

active bubo with cranium, yeah pretty much

[sly plank]

I was in a similar boat as you, ES way above everyone else, I raised bubo next and I kicked myself for not doing it sooner

[echo crag]

also its worth enabling the lab water node if you dont check the game often while bubo is active

[peak spruce]

my bubo has been sitting in the lab for the last 2 months :/

and i should really start lvling him up aswell

[signal lava]

is there a limit to the brew levels you can have after you max your cauldrons? since they can't be used until we get more bubbles

[solemn spire]

i just did a few days of bubo and i think it's better after i get the fury relic

[sly plank]

I believe you can pre-unlock bubbles? but don't quote me on that, I haven't tried myself

[echo crag]

you can pre unlock them yes

[bold quiver]

18DR when

[signal lava]

huh... news to me. thanks

[bold quiver]

if i had that other event card i could get closer to it

[vivid plume]

question

should i start leveling up my mman to get vman??

[solemn spire]

yes

[viral star]

is this

visible in the kills per hour already added or does it get added laer

like the number x2 itself

[tacit tulip]

it's visible

[umbral tapir]

Is 325 million enough DMG for my punchy boi to kill chaotic kattlekruk?

[serene solstice]

total dmg per hit?

[umbral tapir]

Just wondering if I should do the next task or not

Uhh, he's skilling right now, unsure what he's at per punch noe

[serene solstice]

hmmm

I think it would be a nightmare kattle like a litte bit since it has 2.5t hp

it depends on your total end dmg

[final relic]

What’s better to active for 1/50mil chance to get lava gloves. ES or DK?

[serene solstice]

ES

[bold quiver]

dude almost 4k keys and no troll wings, BS

[umbral tapir]

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

[serene solstice]

I mean it could be a painfull long fight

[tacit tulip]

I normally reccomend 30-50B for nightmare, which has 400x the hp of chaos. 30B/400 = 75M

so I think it should be perfectly doable

[serene solstice]

like nightmare kattle was for the most ppl with vman

[tacit tulip]

worst case scenario, it's 5 keys - give it a go

[serene solstice]

true

[pure ember]

I finished the w5 constellations but didn't get the achievement..... even checked the telescope .... how do I get it?

[serene solstice]

its not like nightmare where you burn 70 keys....

cloudsave and go on a character

[tacit tulip]

try visiting the constellation thing in wood shrooms

or that

[serene solstice]

just go trough portals it comes sometimes randomly

[bold quiver]

yeah jus tgo to w5 pier and cloudsave

u dont have to check telescope

[serene solstice]

mate had the same problem he tried cloudsave a few times didn't work so he just did normal stuff and it came out of nowhere xD

did you all know farming ruby cards is a big pain it takes so freaking long

[pure ember]

Yes

[serene solstice]

farmed now 1k bob box cards in 1h and 40 minutes...

[bold quiver]

i havent farmed ruby cards so i wouldnt know

only a few boss ruby

[serene solstice]

the most painfull will be w4 and w5...

I don't want this anymore

[bold quiver]

damn true, cant imagine

unless u are a completionist there isnt a reason to do that either way

[pure ember]

Got it by entering w5 town

[serene solstice]

I am a completionist

[bold quiver]

yeah u are screwed kkkkkkk

[serene solstice]

as I wrote it happens random xD

I am just going for last drop rate cards

[pure ember]

Going for sir stache, snelbie, and gigafrog?

[serene solstice]

got all card drop chance cards already missing out on 2 total drop rate cards and ok one more but thats a boss I do hate him. and then only this bitch left after that I am good to go for more tremor wurm gaming for keys....

[fading dust]

What are the most inportant eldritch artifacts

Besides fury

[serene solstice]

already done xD

[pure ember]

Depends, tooth is up there tho

[serene solstice]

it depends on what you focusing but overall like all stuff what gives dmg or boost for skilling

[pure ember]

Div rock and trade I got both to eldritch before getting the rare resource

[fading dust]

The first island eldritches were great, but I’m trying to take a break from eldritch fury hahaha

[serene solstice]

never take a break from eldritch fury..

this is by far the most important artifact

[fading dust]

Damn… 0.02% is nutty low

[serene solstice]

it took me ages to get it a second time so I do feel you there

[bold quiver]

wont get better with time '.'

[fervent yew]

is it worth going for before you've gotten the bonus max lvl from the library checkout achiev?

[fading dust]

I hate that you guys are right

[pure ember]

I got trilo coin from normal to eldtrich in 2 days

[fervent yew]

i've got it to ancient, havent unlocked eldritches yet

[serene solstice]

thats literally all artifacts on eldritch after fury... I am at lantern and not even getting it to ancient

[bold quiver]

there is no reason to take a break from fury, u have 20 boats lol

just send 1 boat to whatever place u need and everything else on fuiry

[serene solstice]

I gone crazy on it and used all boats for fury

[pure ember]

And I was someone who got reset bc of gold trade

[serene solstice]

it took me first time about 3k chests to get it on second time idk 12k-13k chests...

[bold quiver]

oh i couldnt do that. I wasnt that desparate to re get my eldrich fury cuz i had already upgraded a few stuff to 245 before losing it

first time took me 10 chests lol

[serene solstice]

damn

[fading dust]

Damn im jealous

[pure ember]

Now if only I can get steak and Socrates

[fading dust]

Oh did you get reset?

[bold quiver]

yeah lost a ton of eldrich, sad

[serene solstice]

I hate lantern.

[pure ember]

The reset hit hard

[bold quiver]

and i didnt even exploit that event, dumb me

[plush spear]

Wait what reset?

[bold quiver]

i just got the achiev for lvl 300 and went back to farming kkkkkkkkkkk

[serene solstice]

lost 11 eldritchs after the exploit fiasco...

[pure ember]

There was a gold for gold trade......

People who used it got set back months of progress

[fading dust]

Feels like that should be on the dev tbh

[bold quiver]

kkkkk we lost about the same amount, it was funny

[plush spear]

Holy..

[fading dust]

Shouldve never happened in the first place

[urban gorge]

Did the log game in gaming change? I'm clicking on non skull cards, but it's coming up skull

[serene solstice]

yeah I had so many problems to get eldritchs back because my rng was bad and then last week 5 eldritchs

[pure ember]

Ships were downgraded to lvl 120 and lvl 40 depending on the ship

[bold quiver]

I see no problem on him reseting like. Only problem is that the only people that got screwed by that were players with advanced progression on it already.
Every new player only benefited aka unlocked all boats/ all islands etc and kept everyting

[serene solstice]

I got literally b2b crystal steak and rock artifact to eldritch

[bold quiver]

mad gains nice

[fading dust]

Im dreading the later eldritches after fury

Any of those to prioritize?

[bold quiver]

i will always thanks having been reset cuz that same week i swapped my gods to full Omniphau, best thing ive ever done. Skyrocketed my progression treemendously

hadnt i been reset i would never have found out about omni only power

[serene solstice]

the day after I got weather book to eldritch 2 days after the divinity rock and 2 days after that the shiny pet thing to eldritch

[fading dust]

I no longer need levels so I shal swap from Nobi To Omni

[bold quiver]

huge bro

[bold quiver]

Yeah man do that, its the best combination possible until u are basicaly done with sailing and everything else

[serene solstice]

and a few days ago I got sokrates to eldritch too now I hang on lantern to get it even ancient... xD

[bold quiver]

then u do the normal setup. 6 harieph + 4 omniphau (+2 from es)

[fading dust]

Yea tbh the refinery bonus is huge… takes away the timegating of salts

[serene solstice]

and for that you have doot now xD

[bold quiver]

haha yeah but i dont recommend or talk about doot with anyone. Rng on getting that is so low that i dont see the point

its like saying to people that if they win the lottery they can solve their problems everytime they ask for advice kkkkkkk

[pure ember]

do not speak of doot, doot, doooot, We do not speak about dooooooot

[serene solstice]

xDD

[bold quiver]

yeah i always prayed for refinery and sailing procs

i wasnt at atom farming yet so i didnt care about it

[serene solstice]

I hope I get lantern up fast I will start to grind islands to increase boat speed and mostly look for new captains only after I am done with artifacts

[pure ember]

How fast are you planning on getting?

[fading dust]

Gaming and 3d procs kinda useless to me rn ngl

Until I can resample

[bold quiver]

yep i felt the same way

[serene solstice]

you mean me?

I have rn a 0.06%-0.18% chance to get lantern to ancient...

and I don't get many chests because of boat speed problems

[wanton obsidian]

I thought the max was 100

[serene solstice]

so the real pain begins after

[serene solstice]

that is 104

[bold quiver]

wow 104

[serene solstice]

imagine not having it on 104

[bold quiver]

never dropped a 100

[serene solstice]

fun fact the books from dungeons are 101 max lvl like ik

[bold quiver]

i even tried colloseum farming kkkkkk

[wanton obsidian]

But in the shop it says 100

[serene solstice]

yeah but its fr 104

[wanton obsidian]

Lol ironically I got 100 first try

[serene solstice]

took me some tries

still missing this on 100 xD

or better on 101

same for dis

[bold quiver]

oh that one i got 100 frst try overcrit

[serene solstice]

xD

but I am going for one more dmg ring and then I will gamble on 101 books there probably

[vagrant jetty]

Over-overcrit when

[serene solstice]

good question feels good to have over 200% crit chance xD

without even a use

[vagrant jetty]

Or at least have a skill to convert the excess to crit dmg

[runic girder]

We have one the other way around, time we get one like that

[fresh plank]

Does multikill affect droprate?

[grim torrent]

Wait what, dammit I don't have most of the maxed

[fervent yew]

only for that monsters common item

[fresh plank]

Oh, aight

Tenk

[indigo vector]

Does opal not have upgrad estones

[weary hinge]

where can i get TD guides now?

[fresh plank]

Youtube

[pure ember]

I have already maxed out everything I can with enhancers being at 400% everyone has 2 opals and a bouquet... and still have this much

[weary hinge]

fair

[pure ember]

Had haven't done a hh run since..... 130ish boosted runs?

[indigo vector]

This man is swimming in flurbos

[void badge]

why dont you spend it on keychains?

[fervent yew]

i suppose its not even worth gambling on tier 3 keychains at taht point xD

[pure ember]

Cuz I don't even want to bother at this point....

[void badge]

😂

fair

[fervent yew]

sometimes is fun to just have a big pile of coins/gold/flurbos and just sit on it xD

[pure ember]

Like even recycler,, and weapon is maxed

[echo crag]

got all the talent book at max ?

[pure ember]

At 100

I didnt even know there was a max weapon til I tried to purchase the next tier and nothing happened

[paper sail]

Weapon expensive :c Last thing for me

[pure ember]

Only dungeon achievement I haven't done is the glacial jobs..... got the 126 wazam one

[paper sail]

What actually is max?

[fervent yew]

Great gatsby/Duescythe/blackhole bow V

according to slab anyway

[pure ember]

I wish

[fervent yew]

they're in the slab, maybe in the new update?

[pure ember]

Been like that since slab came out

[fervent yew]

at 310k a upgrade i'd be doing dungeons for months just to afford that @.@

[paper sail]

I've still got a few to go then, darn. My max is the ice tier 1 or 2

[pure ember]

It's 2-3 hh runs for me nowadays

With 3 people

[exotic juniper]

I suck at dungeon 😦

[fervent yew]

Dungeon gets alot easier once you rank up due to the perks / item unlocks

[tacit tulip]

most of dungeon is just having the ranks for the strong starts

[fervent yew]

but even then, you can still get screwed with bad rng

[pure ember]

wish the lvl 50 perk actually existed

[paper sail]

Not to 50 yet, but do wish I had it to look forward to

Still 46 I think

[pure ember]

Like yea there is things to click..... but nothing happens

[tacit tulip]

I mostly do my HH runs with my partner and a laptop I have a level 10 account on

we usually kill frog 4, though not every time

[exotic juniper]

ive never killed last frog i just join random parties and cant help on the last wave im too weak

[pure ember]

The best runs to do is a complete w2.....

With x40 flurbos and credits

chefs kiss

[pulsar condor]

What can i do to help my gaming, I feel so stuck. I have berri bush, and have around 250M green bits with a 10k nugget

[exotic juniper]

250m green bits and only 10k nugget?

[pure ember]

Grab eldtrich gaming artifacts

[paper sail]

W1 dungeon is just super unbalanced. The difference between boss3 and boss4 is insane

[pure ember]

Just like w2

[pulsar condor]

ugh Ive been trying

[paper sail]

I've avoided d2 and d3 so hard lol

I just got the Wazzams achievement a minute ago. Trying to suffer through

[pure ember]

Grab the PO artifacts to make getting boxes easier and fill up the 800 box for sailing and gaming

On all characters

[pulsar condor]

getting there Ive got a good start on it

[pure ember]

With all 3 you can get around 250 boxes per 101 streak

[paper sail]

You're also pretty behind on plant unlocks. How often are you rolling?

[pulsar condor]

What percent should I wait for?

[pure ember]

For evergreen and Chem roll as soon as you clear a full screen

[paper sail]

You're generally better off trying to Research after every batch than trying to save up

[pulsar condor]

ohhhh

[pure ember]

Forgot what evergreen % would be but Chem is .1% to .2%

[paper sail]

Casino World 🥲

Some people get Chem in a week, others take multiple months

[pure ember]

That is what w5 is

[fallen jacinth]

GG

[pure ember]

Where did you find that?

????

[fervent yew]

it's a visual bug, leave map and re-enter

[exotic juniper]

whats is yalls nugget x at?

[graceful rivet]

what stamp did people level the most for their 100% stamp mastery

[serene solstice]

40.7k for many months now ephram

[pure ember]

78k nugget

[serene solstice]

this is a lie

[exotic juniper]

dang tsuna

[sick sentinel]

you can look through mine if you'd like

[graceful rivet]

ty brother

[exotic juniper]

i went from 7k -> 155k nugget i guess got incredibly lucky. shovel was only lvl 93

[serene solstice]

yes thats incredibly lucky...

[fervent yew]

16k with a lv 140 shovel :/ though that was an upgrade from the 9k one i've had for a week

[pure ember]

Looks like w3 and w4 stamps

[graceful rivet]

its all depends on luck tbh

[pure ember]

I jumped from 24k to 74k..... but I semi regularly get 1-3k nuggets

[sick sentinel]

ye the lower skilling ones you can get pretty high

[serene solstice]

ik and my luck is garbage as you can see

[sick sentinel]

need lots of monies tho

[bold quiver]

this doesnt give u luck for a better nugget

[pure ember]

Currently grinding mat space....

[serene solstice]

I feel like my game is waiting for me to get a possible of max 500k nugget just to give it to me xD

[graceful rivet]

oh its technically was alot lower at like 100% bc i got a huge spike

[bold quiver]

it only increases the nugget size max range

[pure ember]

I think it will cap out at 260/270

[serene solstice]

ik

and ofc I want it as high as possible xD

[graceful rivet]

well it technically does increase luck ish

by increasing the range

[pure ember]

Don't forget to grind frostfire bullets to get everyone to lvl 100 smithing

[graceful rivet]

bc your rare pull would be higher than

[bold quiver]

imaginegrinding something for +25% additive skill exp

[fervent yew]

is that one above coldseeker*

[pure ember]

Only takes 15kish bullets each when vman is above

[serene solstice]

why not so you can get vman higher faster and get more benefit for all your characters

[pure ember]

That's what I meant

[bold quiver]

math

if u cant see how insignificant that buff is at whre u are at in the game i cant help u

[serene solstice]

even if the increase is low xp boost is xp boost I have nothing against it xD

[graceful rivet]

if its additive to the skill effiency booster then its meh on vmna but still good on other characteres

so itll help the grind a bit

[bold quiver]

and thats how lava keep fishing people to do filler content with 0 real benefit to acc progression

[serene solstice]

I do know it is pretty low but idc I am a completionist (cooking will be pain in the ass) so I go for it

[bold quiver]

[graceful rivet]

though i think lava should make all skill xp matter on future content ngl

[pure ember]

Thing is it is really easy to get to lvl 100 smithing

[graceful rivet]

irc it doesnt on some stuf rn

[serene solstice]

my vman atm

waiting for the update for fishing

[pulsar condor]

cat rock on or off?

[pure ember]

Always on

Once you unlock it keep it on constantly

[haughty cove]

what rift well i unlock eldrich in sailing?

[pulsar condor]

I guees ill just keep rolling the ~1% untill it hits

[serene solstice]

I use kitsune only for evolving plants to t6 or when I go for more nuggets

[fervent yew]

i put mine on when i've got new plants to unlock in the log, then turn it off, it just stunts my gains overnight when everything will full grow anyway

[exotic juniper]

31

[haughty cove]

that kinda high

ty for info

[fervent yew]

think am a hour or two off of clearing rift 30 <.>

[exotic juniper]

close

[pulsar condor]

I need SOOO much more damage to conitue on in Rifts

[pure ember]

Same

[fervent yew]

4.25m / 5mil afk kills, bleh

[pulsar condor]

like wtf

[exotic juniper]

what rift are you at @pulsar condor

[haughty cove]

rift 16 give black skull?

[pulsar condor]

38

[serene solstice]

I get 1k pretty in common

but never higher

[exotic juniper]

300k coming soon to you @serene solstice

[pure ember]

Still only have 1 eclipse skull

[serene solstice]

why not 450k?

xD

[exotic juniper]

dont be greedy 🙂

[fervent yew]

when you get a 450k can i have your 40k one? xD

[serene solstice]

sure

xD

[exotic juniper]

maybe 42k coming your way haha

[serene solstice]

stuck on that

for like 5 months or so

[iron citrus]

98k for me atm

[pulsar condor]

Ive been stuck on 10K FOREVER

[iron citrus]

had for ages now, had a few 60-70k ones as well

[exotic juniper]

rip

im happy with my 155k

[iron citrus]

lol swap???

[fervent yew]

maybe if i melt down all the gold ore in my storage chest i can pass it off as a nugget

[serene solstice]

6 bop box cards left >.>

[fathom lagoon]

Wow just unlocked magma waivemalle recipe from stilts before I even finished the portal 😂 1 in 1.67m chance

[frigid karma]

What kinda dps did you guys have for nm kattle kill on berserker?

Seems like my 2 berserker kills gonna be almost as annoying as vman

[tacit tulip]

I did my first BB at about 60B which was a imstake

second one at 100b which was noticeably faster

BB has the advantage that his basic attack cleaves

so you can hit 3-4 at once

[sage siren]

!guide

[pearl cedar]

Like 7t still kinda slow tbh

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[frozen prairie]

is waiting over a week for a single t6 in gaming normal?

[sage siren]

wtf is this google doc

why is it so unfinished

!fullguide

wtf happened to the better guide

[sick sentinel]

closed down by the creator

[sage siren]

is there any other breeding guide ?

[signal lava]

https://web.archive.org/web/20230403011952/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[sage siren]

ur a life saver

[hollow wasp]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml# or u just use this

[plush spear]

Are %main stat or %all stat better than %damage with the same numbers?

[tacit tulip]

typically yes, there's much more sources of damage% so those have more value

[plush spear]

Nice thanks

[vale wadi]

what is the highest nugget you guys had?

[bold quiver]

125

[mystic mountain]

sitting at 22.5

[vale wadi]

I just had a 10 k, there for a month stuck on 1k

[pallid grail]

have some questions about gaming, did i understand correct that every growth cycle the plant is moving from t1 form to t2 form? cos as i see they can appear on their t2-t3 form instead of simple t1 ;d

[sharp igloo]

Once a stamp costs max money, does each additional upgrade cost the same amount, or does it actually cost more and just show as 99 godsshard?

[dreamy spruce]

Under mutation tab it shows the evolution odds

[pallid grail]

oh, and point in fertilizer in which "sprouts grow back every time ...." is the time they need for 1 cycle?

can't list screen here, i wish u understand what i meant

[dreamy spruce]

U mean this right?

[pallid grail]

ye

[dreamy spruce]

just means that on average every x minutes your plants will grow

[pallid grail]

with a chance to evolve, yep?

[sick sentinel]

once anything money related goes over the display amount, it basically just moves one decimal over, so 115 godshard looks like 11.5 godshard. you can see the appropriate cost on IE tho

[sharp igloo]

Oh okay thanks 👍

[kind beacon]

Guys i am really unluky i think i acedently destroyd my golden DNA splicer recepi and i killed 12 Mil more and stil didint get it😅. Is this a bugg or am i really unluky?

[glad hamlet]

What do you mean you destroyed it

[kind beacon]

With thé auto chest

[glad hamlet]

Just unlucky

[kind beacon]

Gonna try

[bold quiver]

is the drop still showing on monster?

but as far as i know the drop is only removed after u use the item

[tacit tulip]

yeah, means you haven't used it

Keep in mind multikill doesn't increase your drop rate

so if you're getting 10 kills per kill, it's actually considerably less

[kind beacon]

Ooh

Thx

[harsh minnow]

Ive just reached w5 what do you recommend to focus on?

[sick sentinel]

do the town npc questline, get started on the skills, and div jail for a while

[harsh minnow]

Ok

[sick sentinel]

check out the pin by trickz for a div rundown

[full cobalt]

brb taking a nap

[spark pasture]

so, I just got to w5, and following the pin on moving everyone to divine, any rough guess on how long I'll be like that, days/weeks/months?

[full cobalt]

ugh i forget

but it's SLOOOOOOW

[noble mesa]

Some days

But efter u get the 1 thet give 1 xp to all u can run thet on some to free the and do ather staff , and later u will get to the last 2 and u will be fine
Bisicly put all till gout

[rustic garnet]

why does this cost so much less than listed?

[fading cape]

that's weird. never noticed that before

[fast grail]

You have an extra decimal of money

[full cobalt]

1/3 of the way there

[fast grail]

You don’t have 16 god shard, you have 160

[rustic garnet]

OOOOH I think I know

I have WAY more money than listed

[fast grail]

^^^^^

[rustic garnet]

there is a coin above the coin I see

lol

[fading cape]

like a ghost....

[rustic garnet]

I had way more

I just flung it into upgrades

[sick sentinel]

yeah the display in game is wonky when you have more, you can check on that player on IE to see what you actually have

[fading cape]

do I have to claim snail envelopes every day to get them?

or if I don't log in for 3 days will I get 3 days worth?

[sick sentinel]

thats a good question

[fading cape]

going camping for 5 days and want to set up as much as I can before hand to be prepped.

[sick sentinel]

i wonder if you need to at least open the game to have it claim

[lament jasper]

my first green coin 🥲

[serene solstice]

only onen left...

only eldritch left on it pog

feels really sad man

oh boy thsi is just more sad

[sick sentinel]

[bold quiver]

im impresseed u didnt gem that kkkkkkkkk

[serene solstice]

I am broke on gems

[bold quiver]

i gemeed those last artifacts just so that i wouldnt have to go through those odds twice

[proud pumice]

does anyone have the vman guide sheet?

[serene solstice]

I need my gems for many other stuff so didn't want to waste it on that since its the last one I needed so

[sick sentinel]

what kind of guide sheet for vman? speedrun stuff?

[bold quiver]

fair point

[wanton obsidian]

Does the 2nd bubble multiply this?

[oak hemlock]

Guys which lvl the best for Larry bubble?

[bold quiver]

not even an important arti

[bold quiver]

517

[sick sentinel]

501, 700, 100

is 517 101%

[bold quiver]

dont fall for 501!!!!! u might get a +1 there like me

i got +1 at 498

[oak hemlock]

I saw 1300 is best?

Or not?

[bold quiver]

1300? what % is that one

[sick sentinel]

i went for 1234 for 111%

[bold quiver]

hmm decent

[oak hemlock]

111-112

[runic girder]

9999999999999999 is best

[oak hemlock]

xD)

[bold quiver]

112% doesnt seem that bad, cool. Only takes 8 extra days

[oak hemlock]

then it seems like a very small increase in% per level, not profitable

[bold quiver]

it pays off eventualy

[stiff prairie]

Hate to burst any alchemy bubbles, for lvl infinite on larry is 120%

[dawn sand]

Remind me, ES vs DK specifically for farming the sluggma recipie? Been at it for days on DK and feel like i'm just getting unlucky

[stiff prairie]

I'll be able to atom it soon™️

[bold quiver]

cuz the best is ES :

[vale wadi]

does happy dude work for divinity

[stiff prairie]

ES is best because recipes are "front page" (non-bag drops).
So they will only appear from suggmas, not crystals.
HAd the recipe been inside the bag, Dk would have been better

[vale wadi]

does his rigt and left arm work for divinity?

[bold quiver]

no

[stiff prairie]

Pretty sure maestro only works on W1-W3 stuff

[noble mesa]

Das we know the next ore?

[vale wadi]

whyyyyyy????????

[somber sparrow]

godshard

[noble mesa]

How u know it?

[stiff prairie]

I take it coins follow ore? makes sense tbh.

[somber sparrow]

its already in the slab

[noble mesa]

I gess so

[stiff prairie]

Also helps me figure out how to name each coin. i finally realise i'm on lustre coins

[noble mesa]

In the not slabed page?

[somber sparrow]

go to slab - click the ore that u dont have

[exotic juniper]

I need choco chip 😦

and doot 😦

[stiff prairie]

FR

Both massive help. I'm still w8ing on choco.

Only 4 months and 25 days to do

[exotic juniper]

lol im just buying 7 each week till i get

started this week no luck

[stiff prairie]

Are you... buying gems for that?

[exotic juniper]

ye

[stiff prairie]

The more serious question is, why are you not buying doot instead?

[exotic juniper]

$20 / week seems more appropriate than trying for doot

some say its like $500

[brisk bane]

At least that's guaranteed

while choco is 1 in 22

[stiff prairie]

That's an illusion.

The rate is definitely not equally distributed between chips

[exotic juniper]

eh ill get it eventually and $20 / week seems ok

until i do

[bold quiver]

yeah thats a good way to spend it

[exotic juniper]

pet gems cost way too much

[stiff prairie]

I went for 1 $40 pet/month instead of blue gems.

[bold quiver]

@signal osprey i love playing SB. Have always loved dude! but its such a shame that this is one of the only maps where its fun to play

[stiff prairie]

Then i got doot for free as a freebee pull so jokes on me

[bold quiver]

he doesnt throw his bomb to the void

[signal osprey]

Hes not too bad at wurms either

[exotic juniper]

playing SB 🤮

[signal osprey]

For pure plunder mobs OJ is better but wurms is still decent while getting a ton more exp and kruk keys

[bold quiver]

he would be better at wurms if his bombs hit monsters better when he goes to top floor =/

i got 500M oranges on ES but now that im done 1B deathnote i swapped to him, so much better

[signal osprey]

Yeah I did the full vial on ES

No SB I mean. Fuck ES

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkk fair, 0 benefit on doing on ES

[signal osprey]

I will use every excuse I can to use a different class over ES

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkk

[signal osprey]

So far the only thing I think he cant really be reasonably replaced on is active hampter farming

But I'm just doing it afk with BM instead

[lavish fractal]

on what should i spend my merit points on?

[bold quiver]

and that is mostly because W5 statues suck. Imagine if we could get W1-W2 ones there?

[signal osprey]

Well no its mostly because DK just doesnt compete very well on that map specifically

I've done tons of DK on other W5 maps

[fathom lagoon]

Just got to molti on DK and it’s a great nap

[sick sentinel]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[lavish fractal]

ty

[stable kayak]

Is the mechanic-bug-glitch-trick were you open and close sailing time to get more chests, still active? or was that the abused bug Lava removed ?

[bold quiver]

removed

[placid mural]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[stable kayak]

Goooot it, Thank you!!

[bold quiver]

u cant close that screen anymore until boats are done calcualting loot

[stable kayak]

Got it, Thank you, much appreciated

[hot prawn]

I can't find the constellation on the sandwich map.

[sick sentinel]

its in the lava fall towards teh bottom

[quiet pewter]

how can i do better?

[quiet pewter]

bleh islands has a 1 in 22 random weekly cycle for a trial. drip-feeding-content mechanic

[tulip kayak]

the hek

[tacit tulip]

yeah they sometimes do that

[sly plank]

best class to farm w5 keys?

[pulsar cliff]

I believe DK is currently on top.

[quiet pewter]

dk

[pulsar cliff]

If your ES can actually hit DMG to one hit portals all the way up they'll win but that's a boat load of dm

[sly plank]

thanks, I finally got to moles but wurms better map for dk right?

[quiet pewter]

the dmg needed would be insane, given the base hp, so dk better even for end gamers currently

[sly plank]

guess I just keep pushing

[runic girder]

I got billions of damage and dont think i even do that on gmush

[somber sparrow]

can any1 give me a rough estimate of what is "good" ladle gain per day?

[pulsar cliff]

I get around 2300 all kitted out for it.

[somber sparrow]

can u tell me your starsigns and cards for that? c:

[pulsar cliff]

Suar, stand by.

[sly plank]

wow mole kills for quest don’t count multikill?

[pulsar cliff]

Chaotic Troll is the only majorly important card, but I have a bunch of All Stat and STR cards after that. Biggie HOurs for double claim chancve too.

Mostly %STR, but I also take OG Skiller for prowess. Not sure if it matters.

[pulsar cliff]

Only active. AFK counts multikill

[sly plank]

ohh, thank you

[pulsar cliff]

A lot more efficacy comes from skills and equipment

[somber sparrow]

what about amarok for skill afk gain?

[tacit tulip]

shrine card is pretty sick to ruby too

[loud scroll]

Worth?

[runic girder]

No speed

[somber sparrow]

can you even double that tho? Otherwise its passive anyways

[pulsar cliff]

Duh yes lol.

[runic girder]

Cant double passives

[pulsar cliff]

Sorry duh was at myself not you lol

[somber sparrow]

what i thought

[somber sparrow]

i get the feeling screenies wouldve been easier XD i feel like im missing something, i only get to 1500 ladles right now

[pulsar cliff]

I have to move some gear around to re-kit my barb and I was being super lazy, give me a few.

[tacit tulip]

cooking eff primarily comes from the cooking stamp (and to a lesser extent, multitool for all eff)

the eff ones then buff that number up huge

[somber sparrow]

oh i havent checked that stamp in a bit its lvl 160 tho, that shouldnt be so bad?

[pearl cedar]

Mines at 250 and has a lot of room to grow so 160 is

[somber sparrow]

lot of room only with gold stamp + 90% im guessing tho?

[pulsar cliff]

It's not perfect and I could squeeze more out buuuuuuut I'm too lazy to.

[somber sparrow]

i rly need IS trophy 😦

[somber sparrow]

ty c:

[pearl cedar]

Uh 80% bonus + gilded only costs 38m fishies. Not sure what current max is

[fast grail]

Damn, is that really what it’s at now with a 200 stamp? I need to check how good mine is, BB has been super chowing his way through the worlds since Vman came out

[somber sparrow]

with biggest bag BUT with zerg prayer on i can only carry 46m so youre probably gonna hit cap in not soooo long of a time i guess

[placid mural]

anyone else hyped for update this weekend??

ok luuk lol

[runic girder]

[pearl cedar]

I'll have to check my carry cap real quick

[somber sparrow]

its 663k per slot for me rn

[safe harness]

whats a good starting ladel number where its better to chow than stay in kitchen? starting cooking from scratch for reference

[opaque sun]

id say more of when your cooking dish levels starts to slow down leveling, its time to super chow with candies

[bold quiver]

does this also give extra exp for bubo?

[opaque sun]

Yes, that includes that shaman himself

[bold quiver]

oh great, gonna level it then

[opaque sun]

Also works double if you have 2 shaman in the same cauldron/liquid/sigil

[bold quiver]

😮

thats busted

[sly plank]

why does my pet battle keep crashing? demon genie fight, not arena

this has never happened before

[dreamy spruce]

time to swap 2nd es to 2nd bubo

[visual tangle]

are the divine chest and legs worth it? Looks like your stats would be lower after upgrading from magma

[bold quiver]

exactly, no wonder my shaman cant level up, i dont even have those talents booked

its stuck at 119 for ages

[deft grail]

Island Expeditions not being tied to sailing is kinda odd, no?

Maybe it will incorporate fishing a lil bit

[bold quiver]

No

Cuz on sailing we are actualy pirates stealing stuff

[opaque sun]

Early game there is some merit of having 2 shamans to speed up leveling alchemy, but as of recent meta its usually better to go 2 ES is the long run

[pearl cedar]

Can go for a bit longer

[bold quiver]

Island expedition means that we are explorer in pursuit or learning new cultures *cof cof conquering

[somber sparrow]

what in carnation

[somber sparrow]

whats your jar stamp at?

[deft grail]

I mean, sailing and islands seem to go hand in hand for me. Just my opinion tho.

Expanding skills with new content works well in RuneScape

[bold quiver]

well u are not wrong kkkkkkk just messing around

[pearl cedar]

Not that high, only 80

[somber sparrow]

how then? Carry prayer? doubled carry starsign? XD

[pearl cedar]

Yes to both

[somber sparrow]

i see~

[lyric sequoia]

OMFG I literally just screamed out loud

[bold quiver]

it would be great to see an expansion of sailing since its technicaly a dead content once u finish all artifacts. Your idea is pretty good

[deft grail]

dopamine

congrats on dopin

[lyric sequoia]

I've been hunting that fucking thing since 3 weeks after w5 came out, Fuck that plant jesus christ

[ionic acorn]

Hello guys, i'm returning to the game after 6 months, i see there are 2 new classes, do i need to be W5 to unlock them?

[lyric sequoia]

Same as you did for bubo

[bold quiver]

congratulatinos man i hope u enjoy chemical hell

[deft grail]

yea o well, sailing will probably stay as-is if this update cant be intergrated into it. maybe a couple new artifacts/islands down the road

[ionic acorn]

I don't remember ROFL 😦

[deft grail]

they're all unlockable at W4

[lyric sequoia]

Go to the NPC at genies in w4

[pearl cedar]

You were right though looking at IE highest I can get with my carry cap is 270

[deft grail]

buddha how high is ur carry cap stamp

the broken glass one

[somber sparrow]

he said 80 literally like 9 messages after

[deft grail]

me no read

[pearl cedar]

Me need to push that stamp higher but pushing for 5k level which is uh painful

[woeful current]

how do i lvl that up? is it linked to the divinity lvl of the char?. Note i got doot not sure if that affects it or not

[dusky orchid]

@woeful current it’s based on char level , higher lvl char get more bonuses

[dreamy spruce]

Divinity level, not class level

[placid mural]

found a way to do it without reselling all your towers

but it requires a higher atom wizard %damage bonus

[versed cypress]

whats your current atom wiz %dmg???

and your current tower levels

[woeful current]

Aight well two diffrent anwsers but i guess its divinity lvl 😛 sadly i dont want to put my bubo in to lab. Justy et

[dapper prism]

Poison tower level? 😄

[placid mural]

54

126%

[opaque sun]

minor link bonus is based on divinity level

It uses the following formula to determine how close of a bonus you get of the hard cap bonus

Divinity_Level / (60 + Divinity_Level)

So its good to aim for div levels like 30, 60, 90 and so on for arctis that has a clear break point of getting full talent levels

[placid mural]

126%

[placid mural]

55

54

[versed cypress]

hmmmm not that crazy high, might need more on atom % level tough for me

[placid mural]

One of the big helps if having a high lvl Carolina for the points per kill vonua

Bonus

[opaque sun]

try getting the tower cost reduction to 95% was like the first noticeable power increase for TD

[placid mural]

Canoli*

Lol not Carolina

[heavy moth]

aZa n x
È

[opaque sun]

time to go cook yourself some Carolina

[placid mural]

Hahaha

It is the Canoli that gives points earned % right?

[rustic garnet]

my dungeon keys got reset to zero? I had like 250

I just hit R51, anything connected?

[bleak gazelle]

oh gdi, forgot about dungeon cards

i even have a preset on my DK

[tall horizon]

Yes

[lyric sequoia]

Huh, I should probably give that a try given my atom damage is 152, 59 poisonic and liiiiiiiiike 46 cannoli 🤔

[rustic garnet]

good run lol

[dreamy spruce]

nice

[rustic garnet]

30 stacks of single cut, horn, and a shed load

[bleak gazelle]

ooh, i can get another bouqet

[rustic garnet]

still, my dungeon credits werecompletely wiped out

and I'm annoyed

[sly plank]

can you believe this black screen actually helped keep me from crashing long enough to get to 194

praying I can reach 200 before crashing now

[rustic garnet]

I had this last week :

and now I'm at zero after 1 dungeon run this week 😦

this has to be a bug right?

[barren otter]

you had the prayer on?

[rustic garnet]

yes

that should only take 20

[barren otter]

true

should have 16 left but who knows

lava code :)

[rustic garnet]

I'd have had to do 18 dungeon runs

should have 36 left!

[barren otter]

uh

wouldnt it be 40 used with the prayer on?

[rustic garnet]

is it 20 the first time?

[pulsar cliff]

Ye

[rustic garnet]

ahh ok

[barren otter]

yea

[rustic garnet]

maybe they just evaporated faster than I expected, you need 40 per week?

[pulsar cliff]

Prayer + Happy Hour = 40

[rustic garnet]

kk

[pulsar cliff]

First happy hour*

[rustic garnet]

yeah np

[barren otter]

tbf youre still somehow missing 16

[rustic garnet]

still weird I'm at -1

I only have 1 thing left to max 😦

[bleak gazelle]

lul, 100% block chance

[rustic garnet]

that's bad right?

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah

Anything not per tier is basically no dice at this point.

[bleak gazelle]

if you have nothing better during vman speedruns could be useful

[rustic garnet]

This looks good, but is incredibly bad

[pulsar cliff]

I hate that feeling lol

[dreamy spruce]

wait why is that one bad?

[rustic garnet]

Because % total damage, compared to 4.5% all stats is terrible

[dreamy spruce]

It has 4% all stat already, cant be that bad

[rustic garnet]

These two are massively more damage

like 4.1% all stats is way better

[pulsar cliff]

Woof, that 4 + 2.5 is hot

[versed cypress]

indeed, % stats will always be extremely better than just flat %dmg

[rustic garnet]

a few rolls

% damage is almost nothing, is what it seems

[versed cypress]

its more of a situation where %dmg is too abundant and its all additive with each other

[rustic garnet]

yes

that's entirely it

[versed cypress]

so a 7% when you have like 10k% already is nothing

but stat bonuses are far and few in between so they actualy give a lot more visualy

[rustic garnet]

yep

I actually have been pretty aggressive in throwing my stuff out

[pulsar cliff]

This one tends to met out better than other ones with bonus AFK for the same reason. Skill speed is harder for me to come by.

[rustic garnet]

I know some people have like 80+ pendants

[fast grail]

With vman its trivial to max skill speed

[dapper prism]

Yay I got my Gmush Milestone! 🥳
https://i.imgur.com/Oiyd27Y.png

[little pagoda]

Just went from 26 to 21,369 nugget let's goooo

Beautiful

[dapper prism]

OP,. i bet your shovel is only at like 50% too xD

[plush spear]

Didn't know you could reach 6% with that

[little pagoda]

I don't even have any plant to test the new nugget on lol

[placid mural]

Honestly I am as stoked for this incoming update as I was for the rift update

[dapper prism]

Consider yourself very lucky for a while btw.

[little pagoda]

Does MSA totallizer work if I have noi MSA?

[little pagoda]

Wish I got this lucky with doot but I'm not complaining, I got rift slug just 2 days ago

I just unlocked so many new upgrades with each plant I picked lmaoo

I got a 6hr proc on my second DK

Nugget is OP

[dapper prism]

Most people will be stuck on a 1-3k nugget for a decent while

[little pagoda]

Yeah lol I considered my 26 nugget good enough for the time I've had gaming unlocked which is like a week maybe

[placid mural]

It is wild to me that you gotta nugget that big with that low of a level shuffle

Shovel

[little pagoda]

Gotta be really really rare

I can upgrade my shovel quite a bit now too, so bigger nugget soon who knows

[placid mural]

To put it in perspective if I were to roll a nugget as proportionately lucky as yours. I would have a 320000 nugget.

[little pagoda]

Yeah that was probably near my nugget cap for that shovel huh

[placid mural]

Meanwhile I am sitting here thrilled with my very respectable one hundred and thirty thousand

[little pagoda]

btw I think MSA totallizer does nothing if you don't have MSA right?

Just got it

[placid mural]

Probably not

[little pagoda]

Well that is workable

Gotta focus on construction at some point

Hard farm call me bob and carpenter

Btw when does mt refinery become less useless? Vman?

It would take like 5 days to go to next red salt rank

That is with lab and all refinery speed I can get my hands on

Got shell next goal now get kitsune before I even rank up the shell

[lyric sequoia]

Red salt never stops being good to evel up

[opaque sun]

5 days per rank is fast enough considering how it used to be thought getting rank 20 would be life time

[rustic garnet]

5 days per rank? wow

how are you geting it that fast?

[lyric sequoia]

It gets lengthy towards rank 20 or 21, but 1m cost is the cap whilst speed doesn't stop going up, so after hitting 1m cost each new level is faster than the last

[opaque sun]

The rate of rank snowballs to like once a day, and then to twice a day

[little pagoda]

It's still rank 6 lol

[rustic garnet]

I'll show you something dirty and people will hate

watch

[little pagoda]

Nicen ice

[opaque sun]

Its just fast since you just started lik

[little pagoda]

With what bonus?

[opaque sun]

just getting rank

[rustic garnet]

it's really weird that my ice is higher than my orange, just don't do this

someone gave me the advice: Always level up

everything, level it always

itw asn't right

[lyric sequoia]

Levelling everything is fine if you're happy to micromanage each 1 being active at once

[opaque sun]

salt’s requirement to rank up caps at 1m, so eventually you get to rank up faster and faster

[rustic garnet]

Ceph, yeah, but its a struggle for sure

[little pagoda]

Oh makes sense

[rustic garnet]

I'm heavily micromanaging it now

[little pagoda]

But is there any refinery speed I'm missing?

[rustic garnet]

like, green and red on 100%

and orange 30%, blue on 5%

[little pagoda]

Other than lab, vial and arcade

[opaque sun]

Always level up the red as that is not restricted by salts (does not use salts)

[rustic garnet]

pink on 30% and null 30%ish

[opaque sun]

The other colors too should keep ranking up, but you can stop it at times

[lyric sequoia]

Fixing that page 1 is probably a bit of an ordeall if you want to go infinite mode, but you'll get fuck tonnes of salt if you can even them out at those levels

Is your page 2 as bad?

[rustic garnet]

I'ts pretty overloaded

[lyric sequoia]

Oh not as bad then

[rustic garnet]

not as bad as page one

I've done the auto refine thing

so I don't level them up

[lyric sequoia]

You're a couple of levels out on pink I think, but otherwise that page 2 is fine for self-sustain setup

[rustic garnet]

pink can go up?

or its too high?

[little pagoda]

Ok so salt lick I'm doing too, I don't have shiny pets yet, so my best best is omniphau god procs? Gotta work on divinity

[rustic garnet]

I think it's too high, right?

green needs to go to like.. 22?

22-10-6 is somewhere close to something

[lyric sequoia]

Well, maybe not quite perfect, but much easier to fix alll things considered

[willow drum]

📈

[rustic garnet]

how'd you end up getting it?

[lyric sequoia]

That's my page 2, pink and green are high enough that I could levell nullo but I keep forgetting

[sly plank]

I just beat pet arena 200, at what point am I safe to close the game and have it save? when IE updates?

[rustic garnet]

yes, when IE updates

not a moment sooner

[little pagoda]

Should I leave kitsune always on

[sly plank]

thanks, I ask because I'm gonna have to force close the game lol

[rustic garnet]

depends heavily on what you are doing

[sly plank]

no point pushing higher than 200 right?

[rustic garnet]

ruh roh, that's no bueno

there is some point -- if he adds more

but if he adds more, I suspect he'll fix the lag again

[lyric sequoia]

19-11-6 for page 2 and nullo 6

[sly plank]

cool, thank you

[lyric sequoia]

21-12-7 after that