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Like 4.7k or smth

its not
Ok thank god
but I haven't had a new nugget in 2 months 
ok i bought a fertilizer to see what 8 hours gives. highest ive had is 200 green bits
if this dude has a lvl 20 shovel Imma flip honestly
my shovel is lvl 93
Im quitting
lol what is yours
135
My shovel is 200
Hasn't actually given me an upgrade since I was back about 120 anyway
Mine is 228 (+300%) and i went from a 13k to 15k to 17k 
Pain. I sat around 14k for 3+ months, then jumped to 44k
nice 900 green for 8 hours. used to give like 50 lol
did the traffic cone hat not end in a loot table or something?
I thought they all got added
it's 1 in 7,777,777 from lampar
Ah. It is there at least
Scoli you're late mid-game right?
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🤷 idk maybe
I have had 5 traffic cones compared to neither of the other starter hats drop.
ay advice for pushing wurms quicker? I'm only getting like 720k/day
I pushed to wurms 50k/hr with no multikill
You shouldn't do that lol
but like if you've just gotta for whatever reason, probably just slab on Nobi?
but omni D:
but free procs?
Pick your battles
Are you actually going to be able to kill them at a pace that matters for keys?
lol, to each their own. I only went for stamp collection and then bailed
took me a month from w5 release to reach tremors with 40m damage, including no pain no gain lol
The game just keeps getting easier though. Such is the way of life. You'll get there
yeah 
I'm already getting to the point of having to scrounge for things that feel like small gains, which starts to feel bad
How long did it take yall to get Eldritch fury 💀
Months 😦
Jesus... why does it have to be so hard to get a relic
late but am i on bad nugget luck?
looks like it lol
just saw the nugget above
maybe im just on god mode
Damn productive day today.
Goblin TD 40->83
Wakawaka 23->80
Acorn 19 ->40
Frost 21 ->50

gotta keep upgrading it for that next dopamine hit
Just always expect nugget to be in the bottom 10% of values. Anything above that is lucky
i hate leveling up seige breaker
Better than BB or BM still by a long shot
I just put mine in the AFK corner and forget about him for a while
just doing active on each char for a few days to get them to lvl 200+
nuggets are pain
lets form a nugget support group 
Yeah nah only reason I actived my siege was to get to 10k on the flag lmao.
oh maybe so
just active each one with a choco chip and they'll be 400 in a day.
W5 active got takes days to get 200?? Can you oneshot the mobs?
ok so i was exagerating
get the best crystal % you can and lvl easy
i think they would vbe 200 after a night of active
Yeah, I was raising mine from 400 to 425 and it only took an hour or two per, barring BB and BM
Chocolate Chip is massive though
yea i want it
Active is nerfed so hard without it
don't tell my 2nd bubo or 2nd SB though. They're in lab prison forever. still lvl 120
Not that badly nerfed
You'll need them to unlock and kill NM Kruk at some point lol
For crystal stuff yea, but other stuff from mobs is fine still
my vman only has 8b damage so don't plan on doing it anytime soon
Crystals are most of the reason to play active
Huge money, EXP, and drops. Big increases to CC timers. Just great all around
My vman is also card farming, but resources for next sample lol
I need to push my TD :/ just been lazy
Forge is such suffering. Gonna ruin getting Easy set to 5star
Cards droped is by amt of bars collected iirc, also just swap between each sb with the talent every 2 mins for optimal bar smelting
All my characters have max bags
Even if i swap every 2 minutes, its 1 withdraw of bars per slot
Maybe if we get 11th slot, they can farm the cards for me quickly 🥲
What's your xp multi?
Guys, just want to verify, for this island, it have 1M, 2M, and 5M distance, so to reach 2 hour, i just need half of the distance for speed?
so for cloudy i just need 500k speed, dungeon cove 1m speed, and crystal enclave 2.5m speed?
yes, as long as you'll check every 2 hours
if you don't check every 2 hours it doesn't matter
i can check every 4 hour, because my chest pile can hold 2 rotation
Correct, half the distance = minumum speed. Toolbox shows it nice too.
Btw, if you dont have SB Talent 11 you get more chest pilkes as boats return to the pier with an extra chest, but u miss out on the extra captain xp from boats just going back and forth non stop.
are bits multipliers additive or multiplicative, bc I have no idea whatsoever how I reached 19Tx multiplier if it's additive lol
gotcha so snail is very good, I haven't even unlocked it yet, I'm hard stuck in the billions of green bits
they are multiplicative between each pool. And some are added into a big pool, while some are on their own exclusive pool
Nugget and snail being the major source which is RNG heavy is a bad game design
thank you so much for your answer, its help me alot @willow drum @dapper prism
very fair, I honestly can't think of pretty much any non-gaming gaming benefits
well the super bits are quite big
agreed big time
ohhh I forgot about those yeah those are pretty big
And maybe lava adds a companion that does “make exp converter apply to gaming”
Does anyone know how much extra exp is each upgrade?
is divinity worth to farm vs vman?
Congrats. I'm about to start eclipsing soon. How long would you say it took?
PSA do not buy snail atom collider upgrade if you don't have snail
It will lock your game up and crash every time you log in
left tilt or right tilt?
Always choose the middle
I don't know what this is for but the middle is just the best
do you mean like when you first get to w5? go for divinity for a while first with all characters
Was about 33x plus some active exp cards then. Up to 45x or so now
its such an amazing feeling, i barely squeeked it out, im sitting at exactly 200. its just wow
I bet. I’m sitting at 185 max rn, 155 talent books max, 25 slug and 5 points from the family bonus thing.
I need to see where I can make up that missing 15
oh you have slug helping out? man thats going to be huge for you
you should be able to up the max book level another 25, i dont remember all the sources though. my max book is 180
symbols of beyond
You can get 8 from it I believe
Yea if I leveled that up could squeeze 3 more
Arctis link?
OH MY... started leveling a few of my characters on random skills. My secondary ES was lvl 2, had the efficiency for maple logs. 15 minutes afk and its lvl 42 😄
Bubo is hella fun now tho that he’s a bit more powerful for me. It’s just the waiting for the revive skill that’s killing the flow, I know tentacleye 200 will fix that lol
Love that feeling lol
Resamplijg takes so much effort lmao
but i need to do it... you wanna see something
need to level all character skills for that passive card to reduce a bit of effort later on
this has been his sample for MONTHS.. just to do the stupid w3 quest and then i never did anything with him again
and maybe get everyone void stat sticks as a bonus
Omg lol
wow neglect
thats why im working to fix it lmao
my Vman should be high enough level that his xp boost does some major work
dont have enough ballons for everyones fishing though. THATS going to be painful
40 sample hurts
it does, he'll go catch some bugs soon, dont worry
finally unlocked chemical plant 
how exactly do i go about using it? do i just let it hit evo 4 then harvest it?
ok, everyone but first ES is woodcutting, and hes farming wood circles, ill let him get like.. 40
65 for max tool? guess thats the goal for everyone. Idk what to send Vman for.. maybe like 100
my vman on card duty
just farming skill cards on woods to hopefully boost my log samples ltr
i need to do that as well, my skill cards are kinda lackluster
i still need to do a speedrun to -_- UGH
Idk if ill send them all to 65 in this session. But at least im over 300 for passive cards now. Should i do catching or fishing next
its good idea to ruby easy resources to further boost the efficiency via the ruby card set
Does ES portal work to spawn boops?
Nope
Raise dead on bubo used to work on them like a day or two of bubo release
But after that fix, lava made sure boops dont get resurrected
Im thinking about trying to 5* all the bosses/nightmares ones but not sure which ones I should cardify
Even amarok nightmare is hard to ruby via battle
Out if that, just kattle i would say
Chaos cattle is kind of doable via battle as you can farm the keys (at least until w6 comes out)
sounds good, i think the rest should be not terribly hard to farm
ive almost 4* the NM kattle so ill wait till then and 5* it
Dr def and boops is relatively easy if you just remember to visit daily
yeah its been a long time since ive gone to those, need to do it again
Efaunt chaos might be cardify worth if considering you will farm gems at kattle normal/chaos
And its a pain to repeat efaunt
should I farm them on Vman with full card drop setup
Kattle normal/chaos was easy to repeat if you teach your little brother to click the retry button every 11 seconds
Dont got one of them, im the little brother unfortunately
efaunt on the other hand needs more click attention, so i cardified that
Slush and mushroom are like easy colo on dk, as well as nice slush obols and eggs/ladles anyway
For sampling wouldn't the hard resource set be better for the 10%afk?
For mining and chopping, efficiency is usually much much bigger
Hmm
i havent ran collo more than maybe 10 times, guess I should go do that
Do you at least always collect thr tickets?
sometimes
And even on catching and fishing, efficiency for more prowess tier probably stronger anyway
w4 collo is basically a money printer,
W4 colo is a candy/money/egg/ladle printer lol
Holy shit
ive never farmed tickets from post office either, thats just from collecting
Dude you could get like 2000 eggs, and 10k ladles from that hahhaa
but ive definitely missed out on quite a few tickets by forgetting
And toooons of candy
been playing for quite a while but super lazy lol
for most cases, yeah idle skilling should be better for sampling
Is there another one even in contension?
Blunder hero when your efficiency sucks so much that you dont get a prowess tier chance with idle skilling trophy
But thats only like when you are really really at the start of the game
is idle skilling trophy a multiplier to skill eff?
king of food can be better depending on the situation
I usually bring both and check which one is higher
For most skills tool speed should be easy to max now that with vman buffing statues which buffs food effect
Minus fishing that uses a different tool speed mechanic
true true, it's been a long time since my last sample lol
And for worship (not sampling technically), KoF is better as that skill is mostly soul gum and efficiency has much less impact
anybody know what colo has the most mobs?
For what purpose?
thinking of using one for a CC use, and was thinking of which one to use it on
If considering cranium cooking, doing in colo is pointless
The mechanic of raise dead makes outside world much better for cc
even if you dont have elite class yet?
If no elite, thats w4 question
i know, i have it was just thinking of what one would be best early game as a rando thought
Id still say its better to do outside
There are lot of respawn buffing mechanics now that even a shaman doing at like say beans is viable
i cannot understand why but all of my characters seem to have dropped like .50 DR between last week and today
i was able to be at about 15.3 easily on my Bubo now i am stuck at 14.88 and cant figure out where i am short
did u respec ur siege breaker by chance?
midas prayer?
that would make an almost 1.2 DR swing
Maybe some obols? Card set?
Equip?
Lab chip?
Maybe ur crystal pet left you
Card set?
Maybe it was all just a dream, like us getting the update this month 😦
how rare is it to get collo ticket from po box?
think someone said like 1/15ish or 1/20ish?
Just get some of these:
https://i.imgur.com/aCqC0Tq.png
500 pens and no ticket lol
You doing the right po box? xD
Wrong PO maybe?
Wrong one ||just kidding||
Well u just loved by unlucky god
scared me
what is the recommended gear set for each class between magma/divine
between?
Kruk chest and pants for afk chars like sb
Just go Magma 10/10 on all, never worry about gear again for sampling
Divine top/legs for afk gains (like SB gmush or BB) and head/feet for DR stuff like DR/ES
magma for damage, kruk chest/pant for sampling or afk, kruk boot/helm for DR
If you go divine on multiple you'll have to move around (or make extra magma sets) for sampling since magma is bis for samples (not boots or if IS hat)
Hit 1 red bit and still greyed. Is the true cost closer to 2 red bit?
vomitaru
Eh how come urs 1, i bought mine yesterday and it shows 2 red
is Vman the definitive best for skilling cards per hour?
are alien tree cards rare?
a lot slower than other ones for sure
BB best for Fishing cards
kraken cards are evil
Yup, got skeleton card to 5* before hitting kraken to 4* xD
2nd lowest one from that spot (shark) is also very close to 5*
ohh no but i don’t want bb to easily fly past vman as he crawls through the water collecting shells
Then just keep the +effy but -xp prayer on while doing it on BB 🤷
This how bad it's looking on vman atm:
https://i.imgur.com/FOm5v3s.png
Some day..
https://i.imgur.com/oAiwdW4.png
5m/hr is good
I mean the card
oh we aren’t suppose to discuss the card in text
should i have my div afkers use skill-exp cards?
biggie hours
dam w5 skills are ruthless
Wait until you get to the rng part 
waiting for my goat atm
also just unlocked nuggets yesterday 😄
gaming is the only skill that gives numbers go up -happy feels
more like wait until you finish the rng part 🫠
For now, until you unlock ||something amazing yet terrible later on|| 👀
while still stuck on some random 4 digit multi as other got casual 6 digit multi
and 32m multi reset to 0 because rng
Hey at least snail has a failsafe now
I was crapping my pants every time i clicked it..
fair but still frustating at times
even right now.. since im unlocking stuff with bits decently im not even bothered clicking it right now
https://i.imgur.com/eENwvsE.png
also when will lava add that lv125 snail cap
70% for me atm
cant wait for 4.25e37 multi
the rng to get that will be unreal
isnt 25ish already like 1%?
not gonna see that in our lifetime lol 😂
base chances at lv124 prob would be 0.01% success and 99.99% reset
and drop back to lvl 100…
120*, unless if lava make the failsafe capped at lv20 atom or lv100 snail
Lv124 be like 0.01% to succeed, 1200% to reset on fail
Failing 4 50% purrmeps in a row hurts so much
Cant get it to roll me a 100% to save myself
multiple of the same shiny will level it up faster, right?
yea. Shiny pets are basically sigils that can only raise a specific buff ties to their race
More working on the same multiplies the same number assigned to it
i saw someone earlier show what they had to have for all infinite star signs
any ideas?
what is your question
i figured it out
theres shiny pets that give infinite stars
i was wondering what shiny levels i needed for all infinite star signs
5 on each with the last one being 3-4 I think
pretty sure 5 on all, 6 on squirrel
6 on one. Squirrel just being easiest to work on first
need average of all 6s if your “all” including those future ones too
do star signs do anything if you actively have them on when they're infinite? or do you just forget about it when you get them all infininte
Assigning star is only if you want to apply double chip effect on it
Else it can be stayed locked
cool! thank you!
also
sorry for so many questions haha, what would you recommend going for AFTER infinite star signs
Is there anything else I could easily do to increase those odds a bit? I know post office is low but that's why I'm doing crystals in the first place
Going back to shiny speed pets, or just layout one pet each of those that sounds strong
shiny speed > star signs > meal effect > critters
One pet each is qol friendly that you dont have to come back as often to change them around
is what i'd recommend
cards / stamp
lab width being the obvious “worthless” tier
Yeah my cards are at 3 stars, can do 4 star but would take quite a bit. Stamp is at 500k boring bricks
I think poop card is easy enough to upgrade with ES
Also probably a few shrine levels + chaotic chizoar card stars
Is bloodbones the best place for pens?
Yeah I wish I had 1 or 2 card doublers
I guess shrine will naturally level up with my lab rats and cook
my build rate was barely enough to build that shrine lol
Can't really upgrade but can upgrade the shrines shrine
Well then I guess I'm doing all I can, I'll farm one more poop card level over night and then see
it honestly doesn't matter too much I farmed with pretty high change a while back
once you get choco chip it's ez
Probably should pump my archers smithign for more boring bricks too
Only if i get lucky with gems
it's months away
I haven't checked since the last one came by in may I think
yeah next choco is in december
yeah I knew it was something like that
last few levels of molto loggo always in pain? im collecting 120k on the 2sb every once in a while

yep, I used discount for every click until I could atom it with warr/archer
by my calculations i only need it at 150 to cap, but i cant atom it even with other classes lul
185 caps it at 300
yea but there's star signs and stamps etc
currently the other bonuses make it so i only need 150 from here
i cant imagine leveling it up to 185
is es the best for farming cards active?
ye
does bubo hold even a candle to it?
is there going to be an elite class swap token coming soon?
i made a mistake, i promoted my barbarian to blood berserker
i forgot but i planned a long time ago to use subclass swap token to change into squire
Depends on wheather lava wants to update the gemshop with that
what were the best cc maps?
cans, floms, orange, wurms
does anyone know the drop rate for the signed contracts in yondergreen's quest?
Can anyone show me their "Smokey Lake" Spice bar.
Just unlocked but struggling with hitting the fighting damage cap and having a decent Foraging speed so it is taking forever.
Just follow this
Do you still have to do your storage chest like this to make atoms?
Or is the 2nd stack no longer necessary
you never needed extra stacks to make atoms
I think you did right at the start
nop
you just had to configure at which ammount you wanted to start the conversion of resources in the colider
Anyone has a vman build for skilling and for speedrunning/sampling?
Can't really find any builds
this is very painful to watch
One more plant and I can rub that smug cats smile off his face for a looooong time. Not sure if I’ll ever go for T7 after this 😂
wwhat is the max value of this?
read the artifact description and use math
My point was that Yes I could put the loadout suggested, but my Fighting Power for that Spice is then under the cap so I am having to put combat pets in and then massively losing speed on it.
From what I can see there isn't anything specific in that guide about what to focus to flat increase pet numbers
upto 80days if eldritch
finally some good kph to start eclipse
Oh nice! I just started my W3 Eclipse run.
not the unending energy!!!
😂 actually spended plenty of 12h candy when it is on
how do you guys get so much kph? D:
you can return in using the trash function when they are sailing to call back specific boats
im at 7 or 8 boats and i already think its cursed
Back in my days, we didnt even have boat/captain indicators
your first boat is the one with the number 1, you probably have deleted captain a recently
We has to sail uphill both ways
does raise dead go first or last on the bubo bar?
Think it depends on the map, I find it's better first when on wurms
raise dead, aura, spirit, cc for wurms?
I keep cc at the front but don't think it matters, so yes
cheers
How do you get more captain slots?? 😮
I’ve spent more than a month in w5 and only have the base 5 or 6 captain slots, must’ve missed something 😅
I only saw for boats
Lmfao I was wondering why it let me buy more boats when i couldn’t get more captains
Holy shiet this has set me back 😂
Glad I saw that ss!
You'd be surprised how often that comes up
kind of lava’s fault of not making the scroll bar colored in neon rainbow gaming color
Or at least have the right most side get cutoffed on default first view
iirc the npc or the achievement mentions about scroll bar, right? and sad w5 doesnt have hint section for it, not that 99% of playerbase reads it anyway soo
Achievement description was added later because it was a common issue
oh
Do we have any idea about when the update will come out?
not rly, now that i've paid attention he only said that more pictures about the update would come last month :[
Updates are usually weekends to increase engagement
Really it's just a case of 
He's clearly still spriting the last few islands so I doubt it'll be imminent
wow i clicked printer go brr 20 times
this was a record O.O. after 2 weeks of only getting +1 to +3 max
Before, there was absolutely no letter or number displayed on the map.
Not on the captain and boat list either.
It was worst.
It was basically witchhunt finding that guy to fire
and you would return all boats before getting the right one
just unlocked chem in gaming, should they just be picked when grown? or is there a specific way to treat them?
.
2!d god on es how to unlink?
Chem usually used at tier 4
And after clearing the board minus other chems, and used up sprinkler and bog log
okay thanks for the help, and thanks @tacit tulip 😅
you basically use chem to hunt for more chems basically
Defo been stuck in chem loop for ages. I just been powering through upgrades finally on red bits now
5min bathroom break = 2 hours farming bits
Though, wish QOL update would let use all have a selection to untick chem. Would make it faster
customize-able auto harvest filter per plant tier companion
Am i understanding gaming right?
Say i have 20% chance to evolve per cycle
But Plant Evo(lv5) is 20x more rare
That would give me 1% to evolve per cycle to evolve to Evo5 while my plants are Evo 4 right?
So I am creating a Immortal Snail Haters -club, anyone wanna join?
We parade every Tuesday against the ridiculously slow mail delivery services
And to raise awareness regarding bit hungry snails that look like they've been imported directly from spongebob
Evo 1 - Evo 4 also has diminishing evolve chance just not explained in game
Hmm today I learned severe fps drops increase the amount of time for daily reset (aka I had <1 fps for a few hours and reset timer increased by 3 hours)
Yeah, it can do.
Tends to happen in bursts. You can prevent it by going back to character select a few times a day
Yeah and it accumulates - if you leave, say, bubo to farm actively and come back after like 10 hours, you have farmed something yes, but if you go to the character selection it might show like 6 hours of afk time on the bubo as well
supose that explains why ive gone roughly 8000 cycles without a single evolution
ES is the primary offender (portal spam in particular) but bubo does it mildly
Fill inv is what messes you up
I thought it was the items accumulating on the ground, but I haven't really noticed any difference since the auto loot and stuff came out - so even if you pick everything up and inv doesn't fill
I think the game inherently just doesn't use an accumulator with its timesteps
Thus the huge re-syncs when you go to character selection etc
is normal kattlecruk worth killing?
or should i just farm keys until i get strong enough to beat strongest one
Card is decent
i finished my 10 cape farming so actually farming normal/chaos to get the remaining 5 pendants
it does take a long time just to use those 5k keys tho
higher the difficulty, you actually are getting less pendant drop chance per key used
but apparently cape (trophies) only drops from nightmare so nightmare is only worth if you are after the trophy
if you dont care trophies, its normal all the way. There is no reason to farm chaos besides aiming for the card
Cavity tooth
might as well do nightmare for that and also aim for cape
like you dont need much cavity to keep farming in chaos
is there a guide for what to do with sailing?
ty wasn't thinking about checking if there was a sailing tab in that document lol
for worhsip better use this or the skill afk gain rate?
I dont think skill afk gain affects worship
but cant you just equip both and compare the number?
What does food effect even do?
boosts boost food
give more effect food?
Well yeh but theres no food giving faster worship regen
I assuemd he was talking about getting the souls themselves
Why would afk gains work when activly summoning
Idk
well idk thought it increased them
thats why im asking
im confused hence the question
so this card does nothing for worship?
dang i used it all the time b4 not knowing this
what card good for worship except skill eff, food boost
does mana do anything for worship?
Question for clarification on 3-D printer and atom collider
If I put multiple 1 stack items into my chest will they be filled up by the printer or do i need to make sure to keep some conditions mean (ie order of the items or print amount)?
Gonna get 10 omni procs worth 2 weeks each so i imagine im gonna get prints aswell
oh and i should clarify that i want bigger/more stacks for upgrading stuff
if that doesnt work and they all turn to atoms thats fine too tho
Printer only fills the first stack of items, it doesnt flow over into multiple stacks
So you wouls need to manually swap the stacks around to put a new one in front every hour
i see, well thats something at least
What do you want to upgrade that you would need more stacks?
Its normally only done for copper and oak log efficiency talents
i just figured id max out the respective vial and then also do some bubble upgrades
but i guess it would make more sense to get atoms anyway right?
Up to you with your storage and printing restraints
But normally dont need more than 1 stack of most resources
Since you can do all you need with 1050m stacks
poor catching :{
i mean yea having 10 stacks in chest does have a benefit i get that
and if you want stacks for bubble clicks, with the effort to move stacks around in chest, you can just click the alchemy bubble button
In the far future where a single bubble click costs 8000 liquid, then yeah there might be some reason to multi stack printed materials
is normal kattlecruk worth killing?
or should i just farm keys until i get strong enough to beat strongest one
if ignoring irl time coat
spending keys on normal has a not so noticeable cost of “using your active farming time”
What scales chopping and mining efficiency best?
Skill lvls or alch bubbles?
its multiplication and additions of many things, so there is no “single best source”
I thought it increased the charge rate 
obviously, but there must be at least one specific thing that scales them more than others...
skill lvl itself hardly does anything
Getting 300% multi resources and maxing out prowess to 2x is the early noticeable change
tool power is okay, but reaches effective cap quite early
so working on getting prowess to 2x would be a good boost to the efficiency..
considering I got both multis on 300% already
like keep pumping in base stats never diminishes so in a way they are one of the biggest
Yo should i focus on getting vman class or other things? I don t rlly have the death note kills as of now my maestro is lvl 150
huh seems like my prowessary is already at 2.01x lol
Like getting tool power bubble from 300 to 5000 hardly does anything, but 300 to 5000 wis bubble is big for chopping
so pumping into first and second bubble would be my best bet
Its relative to many other things. So its hard to say whats best
if you know what you are doing, getting 90% effect of a bubble with hard caps are good. But if you have no idea, spend on linear growing bubbles (like base stats)
It might, I just thought he was talking about getting souls from worship
I don't have any idea yet 😅
for most bubbles with decay formulas, lv100 for 50%, lv400 for 80%, lv900 for 90%, lv1900 for 95% of max effect
and larry bubble lv500 for 100% double bubble levelings, theoretical max is 120% btw
Probably there is some other more impactful options to spend daily atom upgrades tries, but if in doubt, main stats are never wrong
I'm up for resampling this upcoming Saturday so Atoms and gains in general are going to sky rocket...
I might be able to at least do str bubble twice a day w/o atoms hopefully
Theres like 8 bubbles total that hit 90% at level 900. The formulas vary across the board
could be able to do more lol
iirc atom sampling and progression bubbles first, then the rest after max all goes quick slap for dmg or sth
honestly, I would be able to do hourly clicks on str after Saturday lol
like in any incremental game, work first on stuff to speed up working, like larry
so I should work on larry to 100% than..
isnt it kinda the most decay formula? like iirc it goes like lv/(lv+100) * max value
hence 900/1000, 90% of max value
there may be some exceptions of course but iirc thats the fomula i kinda got
my larry needs a lot of work than kekw
would it make sense to print dementia ore for it instead of copper for atoms? pretty low atom production rn, 620k copper sample with doot
might as will dip in larry to like 110% or even 115%

620k copper means your demential print will suck more which hardly helps with raising larry
I'm not sure on the exact formulas but theres already an alch sheet made that has the level requirements for every bubble at any given % value
true
620k copper? I don't follow...
he was responding to me, I have 620k sample ^^
ohhh lol
damn this gonna take 5 business days and might not end yet
that's why I got confused lol
360 (720) is most common in my experience
fair ig, thought it would apply to most stuff for consistency
welp, I guess I'll just have to wait and see my new samples post all the upgrades I've made this past month 😄
should i resample now? got copper bubble to 900 but chopping still 400
45% shouldnt make that much difference right?
think of it this way, every improve to your atom production would help you progress in your bubble lvling...
so if you sample now you'll only get better atom production which will help you lvl Hocus Choppus even more
well i know that but this one prob take a week or so to reach 900
resample taking too much time
lol I know..
that's why I have a sampling session once a month..
used to do that for all the skilling chars besides bm and vman ||BM my forever lab rat||
once a month 😮
soon, hopefully that 6,6M upgrade will make my acc stronger
woo 3.2m crazy i can barely make 100k in a day or more
dudeee werent you at 1 milion ish yesterday XD whats your atom gian per day
if you get any more atoms youll have to start measuring them in mols
the dopamine rush when printer go brrr keep going ahha
yeah, it had been more than 2 weeks with only 1-3 rolls
Is there a guide to atom collider and what I should spend my atoms on first? bubbles or the first few upgrades?
thats why i hate statisticss, now it even out lol
to farm those atom didnt you put all prints to oak and copper ?
i'd get the library upgrade, the extra brim slot upgrade
yeah i never use printer go brr with hourly bubbles setup
cuz its a waste imo
its more click 😛
u waste 7h of atoms for 1 click
but yea i need to start farming atom
true tho the 7 hours become atom but way less than oak for sure
yeah, everyday when i go to sleep i set my atoms back to wood and ore
lazyness is too strong XD
Alright, thanks
ahahahaha i feel ya
the 2nd is very strong also but too expensive
even for sleep 😮 true its the same arguments cause you dont click while sleeping so its all wasted
i would also advice u to at least try to spend all your daily atoms on 1st or 2nd or 3rd bubble, whatever u can do , its worth it
kkkkkkkkkkkk yeahit takes less than 6 seconds to swap atoms
only 4 click
i regret that my woodcutter is on second page Xd
alright, thx
but i think ill take exemple on your methode
need more atom gainz i can barely sustain the 40ish click on W4-w5 bubble
oh shit, that suck
both your woodcutters are on 2nd page?
2 on first 1 on second
yeah for w4-w5 bubbles it requires mad atoms
oh just make your woodcuters on 1st page stronger, it barely takes anything
one is a bubo :/ sadl
any advice on good bubbles to level taht are often over-looked?
cooking roadkill as it has 3 things working towards getting more liquid in one bubble
this........ i overloked it lol (even from other classes)
yeah...
I resample with someone from my guild and we have some sort of a competition on that...
props to you i dont have the mental strenght to do so XD
lol we just make a good old session on that
sh yeah its a good one, i did the warrior and wizard vaersion, but not that one much
golden skull takes good care of the gainz XD if it didnt exist i would probably resample more often
how do you rate the sixth bubble (base dmg) i heard its good, but not sure if its more a late game thing
its something you settle doing after finishing other bubbles
When does the island update come?
As there is no end to it
and damage alone is relatively low priority stat
base damage bubble is more of a “preparing for next world update” thing than to immediately help your current progress

im waiting to get the construction bubble to atom range before i pump the warrior one above lvl 100
if god alow more procs here i think that at 160-165 its at atom range
ah true, construction is pretty nice bubble too. theres a lot to chose from in alchemy
Right? i have so much trouble deciding what to go for kkkkkkkkk, i already have my skilling ones up to 85% capacity to kinda hard deciding
thanks, ill not rush the 6th bubbles jsut yet then
base damage bubble scales, but in other words just 100-200 levels doesnt do much
im experimenting with spreading it around anything in atom range, so that nblb will def hit bubbles not in atom range, not sure its a good strat though
you need to get like few thousands to get it online, so its a late game bubble
true i did that
cool, im not alone on it then
why is card farming such a pain XD
check it out. Mylast 2 bubbles to get to atom range (important) are the warrior one second to last, and the construction. Everything else is set
so close yet so far
How do i get resources from sailing i've been running an island a few times now and no green stuff
probably cardifier XD
the second resource is rare, its jsut luck
all those boss card amarok was the only farmable 
only a few boss ive farm like biggie, mush, slush, normal and some chao but none nm XD
efaunt wqas the fastest was getting 10 card per run vs chiz at 3 card
shouldi be leveling up my skilling bubbles?
yes?
huh til
ppl normally pick a percentage of max for the ones that cap
but if your asking should you level skill bublles im guessing you are early in atom farming, so yeah go for it, level the first 3 bubbles for wizard and warrior a bit along with other skill ones, to make your samples way bigger, and feed more atoms
huh thanks
huh yw
is there an upgrade prio to the atom collider or is it just get everything when as u can?
how to farm collom tickets
which one
w4
is it better to double drop rate cards instead of card drop chance cards while going for cards?
just reroll until ticket come out , dont finish order when it has nothing
card% snapshots on map entry. so both
oh yah why did i not think abt that
Is there a list of what stats snapshot and what dont anywhere? i never realised that card% snaps, and i'm wondering what else i'm missing
off the top of my head card % and i think hp, i think its poorly documented as is the case with most of the things in the game that dont work properly/ work unexpectedly
most things dont snapshot, but you can normally see if it does or not from monitoering a number. card% is unfortunate becasue the card odds are poorly implemented and you cant really see the number move anyway, so its not surpising you didnt know it
i think MP also snapshots doesnt it?
i can't use candy in W5?
No, too hot, all that sugar would burn you :<
you can never use candy in the most recent world, used to be w4 no candy in space
i think candy never works in the latest world

just be thankful you didnt have to do w4 with no candy and double portal kills needed
Lava doesn't want people to progress too quickly, you'll probably be able to use candies in W5 when W6 comes out, but no candies in W6
maybe we’ll get special candy with green gems that let you use them on the final worlds
we'll probably bee on yellow or red gem by then XD
the horror stories 
my story: i'am still dootless... a friendo of mine who i coerced into playing this game get's doot on first attempt
enough ppl spammed 100s $ on green gems that i guess it worked out as a business decision unfortunatly. was probably enough to offset the ppl that quit or became strictly f2p ( like in my case)
so id expect more of the same in the future, since the player base (or a small part of it) is financially rewarding the decision
my budget been tight so didnt buy the last 2 pack, but ended up getting free doot
He stole your luck.
Now take his account

I must admit, i've spend a bit in an attempt to get doot (Just a few packs to start with, then 1 package/month because i could afford that).
And then i rolled a free doot.
So now i'm going to "pay it forward" and when i get a pity doot, i'll either exchange it for a slime, or just give it away.
same, but i got no doot
Pity doot soon™️
isnt pity doot at like $300 or soemthing
i still dislike how portal mobs don'T count towards the next portal goal
do they at least count towards death note?
Nope
huh what?

Which portal?
Portal.mobs do force normal mobs to respawn when they die tho
i mean its your money, but seems insane to spend that much for an in game bonus
So you still clear at an accelerated rate
Wait. ES portal mobs don't count?
no
i also learned that the hard while pushing W4 with my main that is ES
BOY that was a mistake
i should've just boosted DK
Or use bubo
But yeah, ES has huge aoe. You kill the portal mobs, which respawn the normal mobs, which died to meteors/chain bolt
but ES has all the cool meteors!
i noticed that early into w5 when my active es was taking forever opening portal but my bb was clearing them faster being offline
how is it even possible to be lvl 90 in w5, like the w5 maps hand out so much exp just pushing them
Es portal mobs at least count towards quests (i think)
The respawn rate and massive AOE ES has makes it worth using still imo. Just don't level portal too high.
EZ my ES is lvl 181 and everything else just went from Lab to Divinity

ahh ok that makes more sense, i thought you meant them all
nah everything else expect my pusher i meant
TBF, my bubo is lvl 360, my 2nd highest is ES at 279.
Some stuff just gets ignored
Ironically, ES is better at choppin than bubo.
why would es be better ?
im guessing library books?
it might just be a dootless reason
I don't know
No, i mean my base prints are much higher on es
Might be a post office thing since bubo had to get alchemy first
Yes, it's a post office thing. nvm
if your bubo ain't levling lab what even if his point of existing 
i fell behind on ~~lab ~~ alchand need to cach up
i'am literally gonna leave 9/10 chars in divinity until goat
I'm dooted up now anyway so i only need to get to lvl 75 lab.
so bubo grind it is

bubo leveling is a lot fo fun once you get them set, they melt through levels like butter
Depending on the map, it just goes crazy
i'm doubting if i should just go back to es and wait for fury relic to then use bubo. it is quite nice with 155 tenteycle
done with chiz
for sure, u need lvl 200 tentacleeye
Bubo is still not working out for me it kills too slow
po box is 33.33% chopping eff, 28.57% chopping prowess, 9.47 chopping afk gain, that pretty big when you consider that it get further boosted by log on log
the 200 tentecyl thing is very nice, but in no way essential, if thats what you mean
lvl 200 tentacle is where it is.
Theres also +% mana which boosts chopping gains
yup
How much dmg did you have for citringes?
take a look at the bottom left talent on tab 1. lib books matter a lot. PO box is basically free though, so might as well max it
that one a bit trickier to calculate real fast tho
Anyone have a rough value of damage needed for rift 44?
i didn't one shot citringes. but i think i 2 or 3shotted them. spreading out 3 Auras and just kept spamming revive while walking back to the first aura which was about to despawn
you mean 3shot with aura? or poison
oh I'll try that too then
Because it's fully flat.
If 3 aura don't quite fill the screen, you can leave a small gap between aura for walking mobs
You should check if you can get an extra Aura with bear. Very nice for coverage if you struggle
honestly, id jsut give the guy a mellee weapon and leave him to it, way to much micro to do it by hand
This is indeed the better way.
yeah am using melee weapon
Active active is not a good use of your time
But you notice the difference during a CC, an auto CC was about 90k for me, an active, active CC was 110k
Hey guys, quick question; when I get to rank 15 on all characters divinity do they need to stay on the alter?
to continue gaining xp, yes
At 40, u unlock a meditation that you don't need to be on the altar for
unless you're using the Goat** - Ty Chalky god to gain divinity xp whilst in the lab, or using the Tranqi style of prayer (which i think is level 40?) you will want to give everyones xp a boost
you could feed them on mantra, or use goat to free them up and still level
I've only got the first two gods, I've got everyone at 15 for +1 div exp per hour
Focus on exp first over divinity points
Anyone have any tip on how to effectivly level up the atoms in the atom collider?
yeah, thats what I'm doing, tryna get to 25 on most
Mantra is worth using on all your chars, it'll give you a decent chunk of XP, but once you get vitallic, i switched to using that
Chakra is 2exp/hour
this advice tends to be unpopular but id jsut keep one or two on the altar and let the rest get on with other things, you can level them up later when exp is more buffed
Then switch to mantra at 20
But does mantra proc if the character is doing something else? I think it does cause I'm active on my SB and he's been getting exp
!mantra
Mantra works a bit differently compared to other Divinity styles. The gains of having all ten characters on mantra will not visually show up in neither afk info screen, nor afk claim screen.
In order for your characters to get their fair share of shared exp, you start by first claiming the afk time of a mantra character. The game, upon claiming afk mantra time, will then calculate what should be sent to the rest of your characters. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
The easiest way to make sure mantra is working for you is to claim all afk time on all mantra characters, and watch your exp bars on the rest of your characters go up.
(Shared exp from the bubos lab talent also works the same way! Gotta claim your bubo first to let the game know how much exp should be shared)
If your x2 xp chance is high (above 50%), you can use vitaic when it appears at 25.
OH SHIT!
to use mantra, the character has to be on the altar, but it will gift 1xp/hour to every other char on your account, you can use multiple on this and leave a couple out for pushing stuff in the world if you want. give them bear god so you're getting lab bonuses too, its dull just having everyone in the lab or the altar all at once
Sick, that had me feeling dumb for a sec
Have u ever logged into a char and it leveled up in lab, before clicking the afk gains?
dunno, thats not what the bot says
to be fair, I've got 2 in kitchen, 4 leveling, and the rest on altar
Damn yeah cittringes xp is insane
No, didn't notice if it did
. However, that shared exp also does not show up on the remaining characters afk claim screen, but it does get added to your divinity exp bar none the less!
I sent instead of deleted. Thats the part i mean. You still get the exp regardless.
tbh i didnt bother putting anyone on cooking, i waited until i'd gotten most of the chow bufs on BB before using them in the kitchen, but i'd been getting ladles from killroys rather than having myBB not doing anything all week
is there a chart somewhere for how much exp is needed per level?
No idea
Theres a formula
I'm tryna get the armidilo plate
Oh?
Armidilo plate?
Its on wiki but trying to find it
Any clue when new patch should drop?
soon™
Nvm found it
when does polytheism work
Yes
You can plot this and get xp per lvl needed
1.9*
Can someone explain how to get a second god linked on the Elemental Sorcerer skill: Polytheism?
still no wings or necklace
Certain points threshholds within the talent will assign a 2nd God, it will show you the god.
Each god corresponds to a number.
Snake = 0.
bear = 1
nobi = 2 etc.
Generally. God X goes to X-1
So if your poly level is 56. it connects to the 7th god (purrmep)
Poly 93 connects to bunny god.
i see
So for ES, you generally go bear and bunny. So your poly needs to end in 1 (for bear) or 3 (for bunny)
If I just want troll scales, its best to do normal repeatedly?
Just realised my Poly has been wrong for some time now without me noticing it
gotcha, i love you friendly peeps
time to fix it
is "min" minimum or minute?
Minimum, since it’s a mathematics function
Damn your highest lvl char is 810?
no, my account was 810 the last time I updated it with my char being 97
what is the minimum exactly? for the formula
minimum basically chooses the smallest number in the list (a, b, …, n-1, n) iirc
Ah tru lol
which list? I'm so confused
0.164 or ((0.215 * lvl) /( lvl+100))
{0.164, (0.215… )}
which characters would I not want divine armor and why?
Just do it on everyone and annoy everyone in discord 
I'm too dumb to calculate it
apparently it'd be approx 300xp to lvl 25 if I did it right
it has lower damage than magma, i just put it on everyone for convenience when i want DR or respawn on someone
so I really only need a single set of divine then on my dk or es?
you dont even calculate minimum, you just choose the smallest, jeez
does this mean that my shaman also get extra exp?
I'm sure theres a lot of points the extra respawn is worth more than damage, but its upto you
the damage will be so negligible I don't bother min maxing armour sets
damn that lava ambiguous wording
yeah kinda tough on the interpretation there. Would all include himself or not? kkkkkk I never used it cuz i assumed it didnt work for himself
Why can’t I select a captain for my second boat? I’ve unlocked the second one but this UI doesn’t make any sense lol
have to click on boat then on captain, on the dock
wiki to the rescue
I was trying that. Can I not have two boats with the same captain?
how can one captain pilot two boats? 🤔
1 captain, 2 boat at exact same location but in different dimensions ?
Well I have a second captain slot unlocked so thought I’d have two of the same
Do I need to wait til level 15 to get 2 boats running
You gotta buy the new captains
you get new one on reset, should have a timer next to the captains on the right of the dock
I was imagining some kind of large giant sized captain taking his two boats on a walk with leashes.
Does anyone know how to get more dmg for jman i am lvl 143 on jman I want to get vman
eldritch socrates
two to go
if I have doot, once a character is 75 lab and 40 div, I should probably just have them afk outside of lab with tranqi on right? no point in raising lab further except the rift skill mastery?
even 75 lab doesn't need to be rushed unless you're gambling on chips tbh
awesome thank you for confirming
if somehow got 2 bubo, can have 1 stay at lab forever with exp share until all are lab lv75
i just put my bubo in the lab to get him his div lvls, and with the talent that share exp to lowest he put all of the one i had left to 75 and gotten like 40 lab lvl so far XD
why my worship max charge is different with the one in toolbox
Unless u need more divinity levels and points
i got 10k max in game but in toolbox only 6k
You ever get the urge to do a little gambling even though you know it's dumb and spend $22 for 7 pulls at something that you have a .8% chance and then just hate yourself after cause you keep doing it and know it's dumb? Lol
Nothing like getting a bunch of sheepies and bored beans though!
does nobisect work on multikill?
so if i farm with es i get more items with nobisect
ty
bruh...you guys pop these on the fighting setup? cause i just did that, went back to town and switched. only to come back to the fucking bag again...is there a trick?
My exact situation lol
Finally got em all 40 div, lab around 60 but I’ll come back to that later not like I have an overflow of chips anyway
The % doesnt actually do anything, just shoot em on skilling set up
my life is a lie
WHY WOULD HE ADD THAT IF IT DOESNT OMG
maybe he was gonna add it but ran out of time / changed his mind idk
ok but just to be sure. the bar has zero effect on anything whatsoever? cause i remember a sampling run where i thought it had an impact
It has zero affect
ok thanks
If i remove my food and survivability is showing 100%, does this mean that i can actualy survive days without food?
Unless you die from crystal mobs
THis hunt for the slugga recipe is no joke
whgat are the best stamps to level for stamp level
The cheapest ones
survivability screen is inly for afk, no crystals there
I know
there ssome that give more levels
with mathj upgrades
is there a list?
Just use ie or it just look at what you have materials for

seems like sheepie is pretty op
Doot is so op, even if you dont have the gods unlocked he gives the bonuses
Yep as long as your char has div lvl 2
wait I didn't know doot gave all divinity boosts even before unlocking them
how quick u would progress with doot is crazy
Yea long as the char has div lvl 2 they have access to all major/minor link bonuses to all gods
Still can only be activated once you reach w5
are there any gods from div that help with cooking?
Yeah, you dont get the god bonuses, like the Divinity xp boost etc
Yea that’s only unlocked w the god
Yea
Although it’s worth lvljng div to 40 still to unlock tranq, that way you can keep lvljng div while you’re doing other things and will continue to increase the minor link bonus
I only have 7 charachters, 6 is in the lab to get lab/div xp, my main is killing moltis
Snake god afk gains helps with ladles/day but thats about it
If u have a bb cooking
I have been doing it for few days everyone is lvl 10 div, am tryna get 40
alr thanks 👍
Nah I meant lvl your char class lvls. Get to account lvl 900 or whatever you need so you can unlock all 10 character slots
Getting to max char will greatly benefit you
In all aspects, trapping construction worship alchemy everything
I’d putt that as priority over lvling div/lab
Am at account lvl 891 or something like that, i jus dont know what extra classes to get
Even lab it helps having 3 extra chars to link
What’s your setup rn?
I have every class, and 1 meastro
The meta is 1 vman and 3 of every basic class
Warrior: 2 Dk & 1 BB
Mage: 2 ES & 1 bubo
Archer: 2 SB & 1 BM
Although you could arguably do 2 bubo since you have doot
I was planning a 2nd bubo, thats for the advice my man
NP
Oh not to mention 10 chars means 3 extra Omni procs every time you log in lol
God damn I love Omni
meanwhile here, had to link to 9 omniphaus and rotate ones into or out from lab

I feel your pain. I had 5 bears, 1 purrmep and 4 omnis
worth it to catch up on refinery, sailing, and breeding
Just so i could active on a few chars.
tho might sacrifice an omniphau for purrmep once unlocked that soon, sailing and gaming speed too good to ignore
