lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[raven fog]

What about moles

[bold quiver]

u need merit mission to get trophy

[raven fog]

I will waste time idc

[raven fog]

Yap he forgot about it

Ig

[signal osprey]

Focus the moles not the boss

[bold quiver]

what about them? u just play and kill boss while kiling moles

[signal osprey]

Then when void radius is up you wipe the screen and hit the boss

[bold quiver]

swap target between punching boss and punching moles

[signal osprey]

Then go back to killing moles

[raven fog]

They will heal him vman has no aoe

[signal osprey]

You dont just sit there and punch the boss

[raven fog]

Here goes my life span

[signal osprey]

Go punch moles

[raven fog]

Well with es yes

[bold quiver]

what is your vman dmg?

if its around 1B - 5B i'd say worth

[raven fog]

Exactly

[bold quiver]

gonna take a while but the trophy is worth

[raven fog]

Good guess

I can give him love

[bold quiver]

[raven fog]

If u check my es

My IE i mean

U will see what i mean

[signal osprey]

5b damage is a couple hours assuming no heals but yeah it can be done

[bold quiver]

dont bother, your Vman dmg is a reflection of your account overall bonuses. Max u can do is chip + cards

[tacit tulip]

honestly at 5b damage you're in for a long run

[signal osprey]

Good luck

[glad crow]

also when i place down trap, do i want the shiny prayer to be on, or is that only when collecting

[tacit tulip]

shinies are calculated at collection

[bold quiver]

]leveling his talents or whatever wont even give u enough dmg to 1.5x it

[raven fog]

REALLY

[glad crow]

so no prayer right

[raven fog]

Am not doing if more than 3 minutes

[signal osprey]

You'll need like 100b damage to get it down to just a few minutes

[hardy bloom]

how much dmg required for vman to fight normal kattle

[raven fog]

Is 100000 yellow dmg a 100 billion?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[raven fog]

Btw i always thought ur pfp was a brown bear

[old oriole]

next update when i hav enothing to do now

[signal osprey]

I highly doubt you have nothing to do

[signal osprey]

Honestly not sure but 1b should be good enough. Maybe even less

[raven fog]

Can someone put 90% on tve bubble calculating thing pls

[old oriole]

i do but im lazy to do theme

[raven fog]

Am on iPhone

Best idleo iPhone player

[wheat plaza]

Is there a pet trading discord?

[raven fog]

Nope

Not here

[signal osprey]

Why would there be a discord for pet trading when pet trading doesnt even exist

[glad crow]

its really bad, but its a start

[bold quiver]

all around claims ncee

[glad crow]

yeah, i had everyone on exp blob for some time to get everyone up in level, but now its only vman that i still have on full exp, so i should feel an increase in the amount of critters i have

[signal osprey]

Embrace blobs 🗿

[bold quiver]

indeed, it will slowly go up. Ive started leveling my vman trapping skills for a few days already, very good

my daily critter is still very bad so nothing much i can do

[pearl cedar]

Blobs are life

[signal osprey]

Damn I still have like 10 days or so to finish mine

[graceful bramble]

Is there any gaming guide? Or if i am active just thoughtlessly claim everything as soon as possible?

[signal osprey]

Granted I did a few days of bunnies past 1b to 5* the card

[bold quiver]

toughtlesly claim everything whenever u want

[graceful bramble]

There is no tricks at all to get more bits besides just claiming asap?

[pearl cedar]

How many are you getting per day?

[bold quiver]

not rly, just claim whenever u want and keep upgrading stuff

[signal osprey]

I think its almost 90m when you factor in the eagle eye %

[graceful bramble]

I see, thanks 🙂

[pearl cedar]

Ah gotcha, was gonna say I'm getting like 95m a day and I don't think many people have my trap and worship levels

[signal osprey]

I have like 800% on vman and I think it was like 13b trapping efficiency when I set my blobs

[bold quiver]

95m per day with what claim time?

[signal osprey]

10hr

[bold quiver]

i see, damn clicking that trapping eff bubble rly helps then

[pearl cedar]

Not sure what my vman percent is, but uh 142 worship and 114 trap

[bold quiver]

call me ash

[signal osprey]

Same on worship but you have a few more levels in trapping than me

[pearl cedar]

Trap eff doesnt help a lot tbh

[bold quiver]

hm

[signal osprey]

Yeah its nice but it falls off kinda hard past the first 1b efficiency

[pearl cedar]

I mean doesnt hurt obv, but you'll get a few more percent

[signal osprey]

Most of your gains are gonna come from pushing % critters through the drone and cooking as well as maxing your base critters through the honker vial and shiny pets

[pearl cedar]

Yeah think I have 20b trap eff, a full days worth of atoms gave me like 2-3% more critters so not bad but not nearly as good as if there was a chopping/mining bubble equivalent

[signal osprey]

Assuming you already have at least 1b efficiency and 700%+ vman talent

[bold quiver]

my drone sucks

stuck at 18/50

[signal osprey]

The drone is nice but you end up getting more critter % through cooking

[bold quiver]

hm i did a big cooking session a few days ago, gonna redo my traps later today. Managed to lvl 60 2 dishes

[pearl cedar]

Nice

[glad crow]

same

[pearl cedar]

Drone scales hard, only 23 myself

[signal osprey]

The cost on drone doubles each time

It gets out of hand pretty quickly

[pearl cedar]

Tomorrow i will only have 1 obtainable vial left

[sly plank]

cost cruncher maxes at 60 right? no way to increase cap?

[signal osprey]

Missing the orange soul?

[bold quiver]

wait, did u guys do the shiny frog vial? O.O

[pearl cedar]

Shiny frog not obtainable lol

[bold quiver]

oh :[ but u can do it up to 25-100M i assume

its nothing that crazy

[signal osprey]

100m is crazy

[bold quiver]

20 minutes claim with maxed prayer ?

i never tested but it should give a decent chunk per claim

[noble mesa]

If u have no life...

[pearl cedar]

100m would take you 190 days

[signal osprey]

Assuming you did full froges on all 10 characters then that would be 30k per hour if you time it perfectly and get 3 20m traps per hour

[bold quiver]

damn pretty horrible

i'd stop max at 5M

[signal osprey]

Even getting it to 1m is annoying

I did 500k

Dont care anymore

[bold quiver]

anything above that is out the realm of sanity

[fallen torrent]

JoyBoy. Has returned!

[pearl cedar]

I didnt do 500k

[bold quiver]

i bet the scaling is pretty bad itself also

[signal osprey]

I'll probably get 1m eventually as a byproduct of doing more froges later while clicking the bubble because what else am I gonna trap for after vials

But I wont go out of my way to do the froge vial until we get a substantial buff to shiny critters

[pearl cedar]

I figure once I'm done ill do 1 of each critter just to keep a nice stack, then the rest just push level

[signal osprey]

Yeah I'll do some exp traps for 1k total and then do each card to 5*

After that its either stamps or just trapping for alch bubbles or shinies

[glad crow]

we also needs lots of frogs for this one

[signal osprey]

Yeah but your build rate is the bottle neck on that

You could trap 1T frogs before you get enough build rate to actually need 170b frogs to max the library

[fathom lagoon]

Holy shit just sniped purr on a 1%

Let’s go lol

[dreamy spruce]

nice

[twilit goblet]

hi guys, got a question about 1b samples, if im producing 1.14b oaks across 5 print slots. Heard that for atom production purposes it caps out at 1b, and also saw something about hourly clicks when you can print 1b. How does it work?

[kind geyser]

That's comical

Is there even a n°1 chest ?

[quiet pewter]

1054M is cap, regadless of it you have the atom collider on it gets converted beyond that. i believe hourly clicks would refer to using max resources (not atoms) to upgrade certain bubbles hourly

[twilit goblet]

oh meaning to say you spend them on the bubble rather than letting it become atoms?

[kind geyser]

U silly bugger, how ?

I might not even be hard to get it, wiki here I go

[quiet pewter]

i think so, its not somethign i have the time (or samples) to do

[kind geyser]

Who's hamish ?

[twilit goblet]

ah that makes sense, so if im just trying to push for more atoms, is there no point to produce more than 1054m per hour?

[kind geyser]

Ohh the wood cutting pig

[lapis mesa]

one of the pigs, think hes the chopping one

[next laurel]

U make 1054m par h

[dreamy spruce]

if you make 10b an hour you would print 10b/10m atoms an hour

[upbeat trout]

do you have to kill 1m xylobones too for deathnote quest ?

[dreamy spruce]

so making more than 1054m just gives more atoms

[twilit goblet]

ahh so anything over 1054m just leads to more

that answers my question, thanks bro

[next laurel]

Yes

[quartz turtle]

planning on farming cooking clogs*40, is it better to go with DK or ES?

[upbeat trout]

how am i supposed to get it o.0 they only spwan in collo

[quiet pewter]

anything over 1054 gets auto converted to atoms, so its not really a choice that you have. i would think that having the atoms is more useful early on, and that hourly clicks is a minmax/late game thing, but others might disagree

[sacred monolith]

Xylobones don't appear on the deathnote do they?

Just bloodbones

[twilit goblet]

definitely, now im just trying to push for more atom ahha

[next laurel]

For v Man U need to kill all the mobs in world 1 to 3 in the maps u like if there is any mobs in dn u need to kill beside that u have no worry’s

[next laurel]

Also um joking with u u don’t need to kill them

[next laurel]

Also how much dog ur jorno does

[upbeat trout]

what ?

[quiet pewter]

a spaniel is not enough, a doberman might be

[glad crow]

i had to get upwards of a great dane for mine

[tacit tulip]

do you have a starsign doubler? It only works with the 3 you have equipped

[ancient vine]

Someone could tell me what is the best place to farm pen ?

[prisma furnace]

Feels good to get something scratched off the list, I'm at that point in the game where I have loads of things I could focus on but it's all about picking and choosing.
Finally finished wave 200 in Breeding 😛

[tacit tulip]

any time you fully finish a function is something to celebrate

[prisma furnace]

Exactly

Feels Good

[quiet pewter]

penguiens drop millions of them, but if you jsut want the crappy silver pens it would be DK on beans, sandpots, bloodbones, depending which stautes you want (you should be farming statues, pens just happen)

[ancient vine]

oh thx, i'll hunt those and food effect statue

[fierce geyser]

Am I wrong in thinking that the sprinkler in teh gem shop will reach 101% chance not to use its charge when ye buy all 4?
0.3 x 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 = 1.0125

[prisma drift]

You are wrong

That would be too broken and it’s not a 100% chance

But I’m not good at math so I can’t explain the formula

I believe it was like a 70%? For all 4 upgrades

[fierce geyser]

I was thinking that, that just means the flavor tet is bad math

[prisma drift]

Still really good tho to be fair

I’ve gotten like 15 sprinklers in a row

Without using up the water

[fierce geyser]

0.3 x 1.5 x 1.5 = 0.675
Which is close to 70%

[potent gust]

This takes SO MUCH time 😭

[fierce geyser]

Sadly it gets worse... (just ahread of ye) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423869952890503171/1135603003718639656/image.png

[eager ridge]

just gotten to w5, i should just leave all characters at divinity for now right?

[stiff prairie]

Unfortunately it does, god 8.

[fierce geyser]

still that dosent make sense because that implies 3 total upgrades

[prisma drift]

Im just waiting for lava to add badgur major link bonus

[stiff prairie]

Has kattlekruk got one?

the 9th god i mean

[fierce geyser]

please tell me div gen also goes up?

[stiff prairie]

Oh yeah.

[prisma drift]

It didn’t

Unless lava did a ninja kattle update

[stiff prairie]

God 1, 2, 4 and 5 boosts divinity point gain.

And some artifacts also boost divinity gain

[prisma drift]

Also styles

[stiff prairie]

Yeah, the stance i'm on is curretnyl 2/hour (vitalic). This is my hourly total from just my bubo (because the rest are in lab with goat, and goat divinity points don't show on the total tab, but do get added to divinity points

God 1 requires bits. god 2 requires sailing gold, god 4 requires coins and god 5 requires atoms.

[fierce geyser]

This is what I am currently with https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423869952890503171/1135604250446147604/image.png

[ebon bridge]

what are some sources of global sailing speed boost? 2 div gods, stamp, what else?

[prisma drift]

Statues

[stiff prairie]

Artifacts themself

[prisma drift]

Meal from cooking

[stiff prairie]

Some boost sailing speed

Gaming superbit upgrade

[ebon bridge]

Ok, thanks. I am trying to boost this https://i.imgur.com/jwjkcVS.png because it is just not cutting it for the final islands

[prisma drift]

I was able to get my first boat to reach all islands at 200x

If your first boat is too slow need a better captain/ upgrades on the boat

[ebon bridge]

reach? yeah, but im doing like 4, 5h trips

[prisma drift]

I mean reach in min time

The last island

[stiff prairie]

Oh.... just SB family bonus

[prisma drift]

I used a 500% speed captain tho

[stiff prairie]

That's the only way to reduce the minimum travel time

[prisma drift]

That’s min time not speed

[ebon bridge]

shiny also does it

[prisma drift]

There’s a shiny pet

[stiff prairie]

Ahh i forgot shiny pets exist. still haven't unlocked them

[prisma drift]

They are nice background things

I always forget about them

[ebon bridge]

They're really strong if you focus them

[prisma drift]

Only so much to “focus” tho

Fill fence yard forget for a week

[stiff prairie]

Sounds like me with breeding in general

[ebon bridge]

Yeah, for sure. Not too much min-maxing going on, but if you take advantage of the system there is a lot of free stats just hanging out

[stiff prairie]

Although omni definitely helps remind me every so often

[ebon bridge]

I think the best bonus is I get like +10 or maybe +12% to all meal bonuses...

Which is quite relevant

[stiff prairie]

Going from x1.24 (lab) to x1.36 is good

Unless it's multiplicative to that too.

[ebon bridge]

ah yeah, I guess if I really wanted to do that I could. I've got 6m speed with a 0% sailing speed captain so that would be plenty of speed

[runic token]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[glad crow]

what cards to use with es? damage first and then dr or reverse?

[quiet pewter]

dr unless your super close to a tier

to note ES portal dr bonus is multiplicative of your base dr, so even a little more can be big

[fathom lagoon]

I used that idleon guide for goblins 80 and snowman 50 tower defence, wow it was ez money

[amber dragon]

Why the stat overload prior is so low

[quiet pewter]

doesnt it give total stat, not base stat? so is like 5 times worse or soemthing?

[sick sentinel]

Yeah its a big point sink that most cant afford a lot of

[twin token]

Once I get skill mastery should I start prioritizing getting charachters skills up or just continue like normal and let the bonuses add up over time?

[eager ridge]

do i have to stay off the characters in divinity or can i stay on my bm collecting traps every 20 minute with eagle eye?

[twin token]

U have to stay off

[eager ridge]

damn, so no more idleon for a while? lol

[serene solstice]

I think thats a little increase (my second dk btw)

[twin token]

Yeah u kinda just stop playing for a bit

[heavy moth]

nice gainzz

[eager ridge]

guess i'll try doing something in idle skilling then...

[signal osprey]

Why can't you play idleon?

Just have one character active farm while the rest do div

[twin token]

I think they're following the pinned guide

[eager ridge]

i just got to w5

[twin token]

Which says keep everyone on div

[signal osprey]

Pinned guide also says you can be active on one character

Read past the first sentence lol

[twin token]

Oh I skipped that ig

I followed it too when I got to w5 and didn't see it

[twin token]

So yeah you should probs start to build ur es if u didn't push with them

[signal osprey]

Your active farming time is the most limited and most valuable time on your account

Its never worth giving up if you can help it

[twin token]

You're gonna want a lot of mob resources and rare mob drops soon and es will be the fastest to get those

And then u can just use trapper drone to get ur traps

[eager ridge]

i pushed on bb

[twin token]

Yeah u wanna level up those w5 classes for the skilling bonuses aswell as the es stuff I talked abt earlier

[signal osprey]

Well bb is the worst active class in the game so time to pick someone new

[twin token]

Are u unable to active sadstick?

[eager ridge]

nope

[twin token]

U can active?

If u can then yeah building ur es will be huge

[eager ridge]

i've been active entire weekend lol

[undone steeple]

does anybody have that gaming calculator that tells you the average time to get a t4/5/6 plant?
also when is it a good average to stop picking at t4 and start waiting for t5?

[twin token]

You probs wanna afk w5 mobs for now tho

[twin token]

Don't know the awnser to either of those. Sorry

[twin token]

Because damage to active farm w5 mobs aswell as talent points needed is a lot higher than afk

[eager ridge]

i should probably try and get another set of dementia armor for my es then since the only set i have i used upgrade stones for my bb lol

[sick sentinel]

#1106590058947035247 message

[twin token]

Yeah dementia is a good enough set for w5 for now and easy to get

[spring jasper]

wit h gaming, should i immeadetly pick up everything grows or let it develope?

[quiet pewter]

does the snail calculator still hold now that there is level protection every 5 levels? id have thought it better just to yolo it and ignore the encourage

[serene solstice]

this looks soo good

[quiet pewter]

depends how much effort you want to put in. min effort would be to only pick when theres level 3 or 4 plants, you get very little picking immediatly

[sour flare]

If I turn off my atom collider working at >1050m items, will the items in bank stack up higher than 1050m?

[quiet pewter]

medium effort would be to pick low value plants immedielty so that high value plants replace them, then let that garden go till level 3 or 4

[spring jasper]

thanks

[quiet pewter]

and when you get chem the stratergy changes again

[quiet pewter]

no, its always capped regardless, when its "off" it works the same as being on with max cap

[sour flare]

Damn so 1050m is max in stack

[quiet pewter]

yeah, theres no real reason to need bigger though?

you cando multiple stacks if your worried about copper for the eff?

[sour flare]

Bubble cost capped at 1b, I'm printing several b of a lot of things rn, would be easier

[quiet pewter]

true, but no, its hard capped. likley as a way to fix integer overflow on mobile

[sour flare]

All good bro, thanks for the fast response

[vestal yew]

who is good for farming stamps that are rare drops from mobs and resources?

[pulsar cliff]

Elemental Sorc if it's on their main drop table, Divine Knight otherwise.

[sick sentinel]

any drops that show on the mobs card is ES territory

[vestal yew]

what about resources from things like trees or bugs?

chopping/catching/mining etc

[sick sentinel]

do you mean stamps and such from those?

[vestal yew]

yeah

[pulsar cliff]

Divine I assume, rare from crystals essentially.

[sick sentinel]

i dont really know, but i used maestro when i tried to go for stamps from skilling

[vestal yew]

hm okay thank u

[modern plaza]

how lol… new boss obols??

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah it's crazy how high the AFK rates are getting

[coral goblet]

which is probably more valuable to get first

im about to unlock snail in gaming today

[sharp glacier]

as a newly world 5er, what should i prioritize?

[dreamy spruce]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[pulsar cliff]

My Maestro is at 234% AFK.
I could get another 42% from cards (Doubling Boop and Amarok). [276]
Another 25% by doubling my necklace [301]
2x keychains (8% each + 8 doubled) [325]
Wings (13%) [338]
I need another obol, so 344%. I'm sure there's more I'm missing but.

[pulsar cliff]

Probably last but it'll be a few days before you're in range for that to even proc.

[brisk bane]

How do you get so high on it?

[worldly dune]

how do you get more than 100% afk gains?

except divinity

[pulsar cliff]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=AFK

These are all sources of AFK gains.

[pulsar cliff]

Daaaaaaaaaang. I'm getting close to 1b and thought that was good lol

[atomic kiln]

100+ is basicly free to grab

[atomic kiln]

slowly progressing lol

[untold saffron]

Ram on free roll, nice

[atomic kiln]

ooo need to check my free roll

[serene solstice]

boss obols + doot + card doublers etc

[serene solstice]

boss obols + doot + card doublers etc

I have a nice bug I can't sample catching stuff anymore

ok nvm fixed

[pulsar cliff]

Now I can laugh about the pun you made and not feel bad lol

[brisk bane]

I'm missing doot, boss obols and wings, maybe that's why i'm at 180afk gains only

[serene solstice]

what do you mean?

[pulsar cliff]

Bug. Catching. Bug. Catching.

[serene solstice]

I have as wings the sunflower thing from valntines event

[serene solstice]

omg hahaha

btw

my catching afk gains xD

[dreamy spruce]

damnn

[zinc torrent]

is there guide for monster sampling once you hit W5?

[fading cape]

Well.. I guess here we go trying to do this...

[tiny drift]

This is gonna take awhile…

[untold leaf]

Is it feasible?

I mean... How many plunderous can you get on a day?

[fading cape]

I mean, no time like the present. Only achievement I have left that requires active participation in. Instead of just waiting to happen. So outside of doing my bubo daily, I'm just waiting on a lot of AFK stuff now.

[untold leaf]

Yeah... I guess 🥲

[dapper prism]

Gotta crank that up 😄
https://i.imgur.com/WtbdBOb.png

[serene solstice]

yeah still missing one afk obol and like pendant doubler chip ^^

[fading cape]

what are some big sources of AFK gain rates I can work on? I'm at like 175 and I have all the EQ, etc. I feel like I'm missing something

[serene solstice]

doot helps there a lot

[dreamy spruce]

Use vman

[dapper prism]

I get around 5k a night when i went for 100k+, so probably 10-15k a day (maybe more?)

[untold leaf]

Ugh 🥲🥲🥲

[heavy moth]

T6 card when XD

[dapper prism]

Also the benefit gets pretty minimal

Yes, when 👀
https://i.imgur.com/fWwMYIw.png

[dreamy spruce]

During speedrun, kill as many bosses as you can (normal difficulty if you're just going for samples), use multikill and then sample

[dreamy spruce]

thats a lot of cards damn

[dapper prism]

Use the insight link someone just posted above

or in #1084911530417606656 there's also an afk sheet (that may be missing some things)

Oh wow finally a decent captain:
https://i.imgur.com/62uEDxi.png

[fading cape]

I went through that list. I didn't see anything that can raise it by like 200%. The only thing I'm missing is zerg prayer. I feel like I'm missing something like an alchemy bubble that increases fighting AFK or something that interacts and I'm not aware of.

[dapper prism]

Our gain pics were from skilling, skilling cards, bubbles etc. it all adds up

everything counts and goes hand in hand, hat, wings, trophy, all that kinda stuff

[fading cape]

yeah I know. I have all that. The whole EQ list, infinite star signs, obols, cards. But somewhere I'm missing something huge that I can up daily that I'm missing. That's my question. I have all the static stuff, but I'm clearly missing something specific that can go higher and isn't static. I just can't seem to identify it. NBD. I'll figure it out eventually

[dapper prism]

Do you have doot? (someone mentioned that earlier)

[fading cape]

No I don't. Would Doot account for a 200%+ difference? (Maybe Doot + Zerg prayer could?).

[dapper prism]

nawh

[signal osprey]

Doot gives up to 80% afk at most

[manic moat]

how do you get the divine scarf?

[dapper prism]

Think like 50% or something?

[ebon bridge]

is there a way to farm kachow statues?

[dapper prism]

The other 30% (for 80%) from doot can just be reached by equipping snake yourself

[amber dragon]

I have unlocked the 2nd god, and my lab looks like this right now. Should I let them sit in the lab to gain exp, or I should put them all into divinity?

[rugged token]

50% for max level div from goat then big P multi

[dapper prism]

As soon as you hit W5 you should be sitting in divinity non stop.

[amber dragon]

even tho the line is short?

[dapper prism]

Could remove 1 from div IF you're active on it, while everyone else is on bear for lab points

[dapper prism]

Yes, short or long, has nothing to do with it yet. The reason is you want god 5 (goat) asap, then you can sit in lab while getting both Div + Lab gains. Check the Pins

[amber dragon]

kk

That means I can fully afk now lol, I can't active push w5, the crystal monster"s" are killing me

[serene solstice]

sexy

[dapper prism]

Gz

[serene solstice]

does anyone have a spreadsheet or so where I can see the cap of bubbles like where it starts to be not worth it to lvl them up

[dapper prism]

#1084911530417606656
Alchemy Bubble gain %
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HgEWk3_7nT6tVsMeSXEiHcKfOD9_5AWeqRD6_ZkqexU/edit#gid=72800316

[dreamy spruce]

my CC is starting to be decent, got fury so 200 tenteye, should I be spending liquid on cauldron upgrades (decanting) or the bubbles I can easily afford?

[dapper prism]

Whats your CC time at, and location?

[dreamy spruce]

flombeiges, almost filled my liquids but missed the time

[runic token]

starting the grind to gear up everyone with magma/divine gear/weapons

[glad mountain]

is it actually useful to increase dr when farming kruk keys?

[dapper prism]

Just remember "Divine" on everyone isn't necessarily the best

[runic token]

well I'm at least doing magma first

gonna cross the divine bridge once I get there

[lyric sequoia]

Divine is for squares, like pants!

[runic token]

recently got full chizoar scarfs and emperors rings

also just got mega bits or whatever its called the 5q one

lvl 11 snail putting in work, glad he added the salt atom before I got snail haha

[lyric sequoia]

5Q regular bits, or 5Q green bits?

[dapper prism]

It's a bit of a balance, doesn't hurt leveling liquid regen level for a little, early on.
For the brewing cauldrons 100% focus on Boost first. It's a little situational what bubbles you are on and if they would even benefit your CC time. When focusing on boosts be sure to level Speed+Extra a bunch first. For min-maxing postpone upgrading a bubble a day-kinda-thing and just get that speed/extra up a bit, then you can lvl luck and go for the bubble(s)

Try and figure out what your CC time is, how long a full CC cycle is (starting a CC until your cd is down and u start the next one) can also help check what's most efficient

[dreamy spruce]

Alright, thank you!

[dapper prism]

Remember that crystals count for CC time, so if u have crystal cards + choco chip, use it too

Be sure to test a flat map asap like citringes if you can, as it's opop for aura

[dreamy spruce]

my dmg pretty low (30-80m) so can't even kill moltis :{

[dapper prism]

yeh then new bubbles will help a bunch

Although you may be gated by some stuff like sailing materials or w5 2nd last zone mob mats

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah those'll be be a struggle for a while for me

dont know how good the %dmg per 250 wis will be either, only at ~2.7k wis

Should probably swap some gear around though, using dementia instead of chizoar and rex rings instead of tenacity

[dapper prism]

Yeh, around those times getting a few chizoar sets is nice with emp rings

you shouldnt buy/be buying more than 1 tenacity ring btw.

All stat is what it's all about 😄

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah, got baited by gear sheet, bought 2 a while ago

havent even finished flurbo stats, gonna get those before opals

[sacred arrow]

Does anyone have a spreadsheet for the td aspect of the game? Placement wise for towers

[zinc torrent]

Is it normal for boats with rare resources from second column to be underleveled compared to beginning boats that only use common drops?

[dapper prism]

Which one?

[sacred arrow]

All

[dreamy spruce]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[sacred arrow]

Thanks man

[zinc torrent]

cause seeing 5k loot boats with like 10 speed is kinda sad

[dapper prism]

Yeh can use the above doc or i have all the screenshots from toasty or whatever the name was (forgot)

[dapper prism]

The boats level the same, you can use ie or it (toolbox) to check when you're hitting a breakpoint, since speed and loot hit a breakpoint where it jumps a bunch every 7 and 8 level ups.

[dapper prism]

Side note, if u ever go for goblin 120, use the 130 pic/setup, it's way better and if u hit 120 u get to 130 anyways.

[atomic kiln]

its too easy trickz

[zinc torrent]

i was just wondering if rng for snowmans and thunder rare loots is way worse, cause after month i haven't got these yet

[opaque sun]

Rares are like static 5% chance

[atomic kiln]

this is it, anyone who has higher?

[dapper prism]

Rng is rng, sometimes i'd get 1 or 2 chests of 50 with rare loot, and other times i'd get like 5-10ish

[dapper prism]

Doesn't it cap at 15?

[heavy moth]

what lvl your divinity XD

[opaque sun]

big p gets it above cap

There is a hard diminishing, but still there isnt really a hard cap

[dapper prism]

Ah thought it would still be capped

[atomic kiln]

ive been camping at divinity for months lol. this is the result

[dapper prism]

Level?

[ebon bridge]

does it check each char's div or your highest div?

[sick sentinel]

per char

[dapper prism]

Minors are always that characters div level that affects it for itself

[sick sentinel]

oh trickz i got a sanic ring overnight lol

[heavy moth]

must be high af im at 125 and only 13.6

[sick sentinel]

looks like it does need to be equipped

[dapper prism]

Oh gz! I have mine unlocked/equipped nowq but dont think i got any, forgot to check xD

Idk wtf this kinda luck/unluck was right now but wtf
https://i.imgur.com/poC22My.png

pretty sure i banked+dropped all clovers earlier

[pulsar cliff]

I've put them on my filter list cause I just can't lol

[dapper prism]

Yeh i should do that again xD

removed them when the pendant was released

[little pagoda]

Idle SKilling time gate to claim sucks ass

I just worked on realm to get super strong and breeze through the second part of the game and now I need to wait 4 days to claim next reward

And there's still 2 more after

[dapper prism]

Wanna guide me on my IS ? xD

[atomic kiln]

157

[little pagoda]

Yeas, do realm, it's OP as hell

[dapper prism]

I do

[little pagoda]

Did you get to the point in realm where you get absurd rewards?

If not you're doing it wrong

[pulsar cliff]

Don't neglect trekking and tunneling like I did lol

[dapper prism]

Move to DM?

[little pagoda]

That one sucks balls

I still don't have an optimal trekking setup

[dapper prism]

This morning is the first time i see tunnels (button), but still has a lock

[little pagoda]

taking multiple days to travel the 50km is takes for next area

[atomic kiln]

i havent really played for about 2 weeks now, just been standing afk at divinity with all chars, logging in daily for 5 min to do a few dailies and out, what else it there to do 😮

[little pagoda]

Sure I can help maybe

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/3b5db388f532028d47436bd37138d06a.png

[little pagoda]

Follow this guide on realms (doesn't have to be exactly but I followed it pretty closely)
https://idle-skilling.fandom.com/wiki/Realm

[dapper prism]

I dm'd you btw

[zinc torrent]

Realms can break reap quick if you know the quirks.

What did he think would happen if he doesnt limit a doubler

[atomic kiln]

Hippppoooo

any1 who has 2 doots?

[pulsar cliff]

Only 18k left to go.

[zinc torrent]

Are your fingers ok?

[atomic kiln]

i feel sorry for ur fingers

[pure spindle]

Yes

[atomic kiln]

dam, u do reilly?

[pulsar cliff]

No lol.

[pure spindle]

Couldnt tell you who but id seen it on reddit or something near the v start

Lol nono im not lucky enough for one

[pulsar cliff]

My fingers feel sorry for my fingers. Doubly knowing there's still a huge batch to go lol

[atomic kiln]

wish i got a free doot, id save it for trading to the next OP pet

[brisk breach]

making a multi click macro has changed my game

[pure spindle]

Free is untradeable though no?

[atomic kiln]

u know u dont get anything really from doing the myrad

[pure spindle]

Ohhh nvm i get it

[atomic kiln]

no idea.. that would suck tho

[pulsar cliff]

I get the knowledge that I don't have to do it anymore lol

[pure spindle]

Untradeable if its off free roll unfortunately

[atomic kiln]

sucks, well i have 1 i bought so 😄

[pure spindle]

If you had one through purchase then free itd be perfect

But nobody is that lucky lol

[little pagoda]

Yeah man realm is pure dopamine

[little pagoda]

Wait there's no cap on boxes?

[plush spear]

Can DK orbs works on king doot or world bosses?

[sick sentinel]

doot not sure cause theres the invisible green mush there

but not world bosses

[heavy moth]

what item is affected by orb, i did some hourglass with 300 orb kill but candy drop were the same

[rugged thistle]

is this before or after tripling?

[plush spear]

I was wondering too why theres green mushroom there 😅

[sick sentinel]

candies are limited to 1 drop per candy type, but can drop multiple dif types

[sick sentinel]

did u refesh map? new tiers of artis need that to update

[rugged thistle]

i did not always forget u have to do that to see new values on stuff >.> tyvm

[heavy moth]

so more chance to get candy of different type but doesnt affect qantity. aighht might be worth it after all to do on DK instead of Vman

[tiny drift]

I got my ass beat I ain’t posting that shit.

[sick sentinel]

if i understood how the candy drops work correctly then yeah. and def do all colo runs on dk cause the orb drop multi works on the mini bosses and chests

[sacred frigate]

I got lucky and got doot today and my prints were showing as x6 but all of a sudden they're only x3 now. IE is also showing x3 so I don't think it's a visual bug. Any ideas? Everyone is connected in lab and all nodes are lit

[atomic kiln]

ive seen lava has been spamming the F content.. how about an update? were like a week over due and i have nothing to do

[dreamy spruce]

80k seconds, about 40min cycle time at flombeiges @dapper prism

[sick sentinel]

i havent messed around with it but is your doot checked off in the companions tab on IE?

and do your chars have at least div lvl 2?

[sacred frigate]

No its not checked for some reason but I'm getting all the other bonuses from doot like Elephant procs

[sick sentinel]

then its probably just a visual glitch

it happens sometimes

[heavy moth]

i might be wrong but i think he change what that says cause i think at first it was writtten update was plan before end of month

[sacred frigate]

I'll try going back into companions map

[atomic kiln]

circ, what r u up to? do u have anything left to do in idleon?

[sick sentinel]

i just let the game do its thing, plenty of stuff for me to do but i cant be bothered to do most of it

[atomic kiln]

anyone looking forward for the fising update?

[sick sentinel]

i want to see what it is before i get excited about it

[atomic kiln]

i kinda feel like its a pay to progress thing, but its free and slow for those who dont spend

[heavy moth]

yea looking forward to see what kind of new bonus we will get

[sick sentinel]

that goes with the pattern of other updates lately

[heavy moth]

as long as its not gacha

[atomic kiln]

isnt it all gacha in one way or another?

[heavy moth]

ahah yea kinda if not its a really thin line, i meant more something not like doot XD

i wouldnt mind a pay equivalent of sailing

[atomic kiln]

i dont think doot gacha will happen again

oooo

my first 22

[dreamy spruce]

nice

[quartz sandal]

Is it bad switching from snake to goat for lab?

[dapper prism]

why would that be bad?

[foggy briar]

the thing about Doot is that it makes progress a lot easier for mid game players

got it randomly for free, unlocked all gods for all characters

[plush spear]

If your characters are not in the lab sure, but why though 😅

[foggy briar]

It is insanely powerfull

[quartz sandal]

I'm not sure I understand, I'm switching my characters that are in lab from snake to goat, is goat better?

[plush spear]

Yes

Free divinity points and exp

[quartz sandal]

Btw the doot thing (free divinity and lab exp without being in lab),

can I do the same thing by connecting to goat with my es while I have bear connected.

[dreamy spruce]

you dont get div and lab xp if you arent in lab with doot

arctis doesnt give lab xp, he just makes your lines form

[plush spear]

No ES can't 2nd link to bear or goat, i tried

[quartz sandal]

:(

[plush spear]

You can try 2nd link bird god though, 3x print

[quartz sandal]

Oh i thought some players had both goat and bear and because goat said you get gains from both I thought it would work

[dreamy spruce]

just arctis also doesn't give lab xp

so bear doesnt add div xp

[quartz sandal]

I did

[graceful bramble]

Does STR affect cooking efficiency?

[heavy moth]

easy 1b DN

[bright quail]

does drop rate help with samples? like from the crystal pet, would 100% dr double ur samples?

[sick sentinel]

nope

[zealous niche]

But it doesn’t combine to give div exp

[bright quail]

ah alr thanks

[sick sentinel]

goat needs actual placement in lab

[quartz sandal]

Oh

[sick sentinel]

i cam into the conversation late, what was your goal with your god links

[dreamy spruce]

getting lab and div xp without being in lab

which isnt possible

should I buy emp obal rings or upgrade flurbo stats first, these are my current stats

[modest warren]

anyone got a good es attack bar setup

[stiff prairie]

You got the main 3. i suggest obal rings

[dreamy spruce]

Alright, thanks

[stiff prairie]

class exp is redundant because grind time exists

[visual lava]

1. Portal
2. Everything else

[stiff prairie]

1. mana is life.
2. portal
3. everything else

[modest warren]

i feel like everything else isnt perfect but understandable

[sick sentinel]

just dont do energy bolt or ice shards and you're good

[visual lava]

The heat-seeking missile and meteor are the best ones

[visual lava]

Also this

[modest warren]

alright ty

[stiff prairie]

Here's my first page spellbar

[twin token]

Imo volcano better than tornado

[graceful rivet]

Is cooking really easy late game with vman?

[sick sentinel]

the mix of diamond chef, atom collider bonus, and vman make cooking very ez

still cant max all meals tho

[graceful rivet]

Oh damn

[rustic garnet]

we're still dragging out this content blog?

We're at the end of the month, later this month is only today

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah dont think the updates coming today

even in the most generous timezone

[rustic garnet]

feels like this one was strung out big time

[dreamy spruce]

some ppl thought the "later this month" part was just about the sneak peeks

[rustic garnet]

lol no chance

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah would be weird

[rustic garnet]

That's such a generous interpretation

[dreamy spruce]

just got tenteye at 200+, 80k cc and ~40 min cycle time (at flombeiges), you think I should be upgrading bubbles or liquids?

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah it really is

[rustic garnet]

Ummm, bubbles 100% if youc an

LIquids are when you have too much to spend

[stiff prairie]

Bubbles first, then half in grindtime, half in liquids

[dreamy spruce]

so bubbles > liquids > gt

[rustic garnet]

unless you are looking at grindtime

liquids>gt really?

[barren otter]

gt at 80k CC is a waste of time imo

[stiff prairie]

Boosting liquids means you boost future liquid gains

What's your cookin roadkill bubble size?

[dreamy spruce]

Still have plenty of bubbles to upgrade

[stiff prairie]

And btw: equip it if u haven't got sheepie

[rustic garnet]

I'd just focus bubbles

[dreamy spruce]

Have sheepie

[rustic garnet]

if there is even a doubt in your mind, bubbles all the way

[steel ingot]

Is double loot value good on a green captain?

[dreamy spruce]

alright, bubbles all the way it'll be

[barren otter]

yea get your avg CC higher before you do grind time

[stiff prairie]

That's why i suggested half and half on liquid/GT

[rustic garnet]

the color of the captain means nothing

it's all about the number

[stiff prairie]

So your CC has a cooldown of about 44.444k

[steel ingot]

Ok 46% and 39%

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah very accurate

takes me about 40 mins to get it up again, so pretty long

[stiff prairie]

it's 80k/(100%+roadkill%)

40m isn't long

Considering your CC timer before tentacle 200 was probably 3 hours

[dreamy spruce]

didnt active for cc before then, but sounds right

[rustic garnet]

you'll get it to sub 15

[tacit tulip]

the battery farm is going well lol

[stiff prairie]

tentacle 200 is effectively "on average, 1 kill reduces CD by 2 seconds"

[rustic garnet]

dunno, probably the most efficient way to eventually do GT is do as much bubble rate as you can stand

but I feel like mostly I come back and my cap is fullyc apped

if you are paying strong attention, liquid rate will be good

[stiff prairie]

40min is quick. It's not 15m level, but it's still really good

[rustic garnet]

if you have a huge attention, liquid rate will win out

one CC gets me 2.5k liquid

oh yeah

[dreamy spruce]

1cc gets me 356 liquid

[rustic garnet]

what order are your skills?

[rustic garnet]

you should do : Raise Dead, Aura, Fart cloud

yep, wrong

you can leave CC at front

but put raise dead ahead

[dreamy spruce]

thx

[rustic garnet]

It doubled my CC

[dreamy spruce]

oh wow

[rustic garnet]

yeah, I was wondering why I had all the same stats/skills/cc/etc etc etc

and people were going into the 300-400ks

turns out raise dead go brrrr

oh also

do you have a weapon equipped?

or fists? or nothing?

[dreamy spruce]

I have fists (Stinger)

could probably get a better roll though

[barren otter]

need that 3/3 kruk stone stinger

[dreamy spruce]

Haven't gotten to Kruk at all yet so gonna take a while

[barren otter]

o

[dreamy spruce]

just got to lampar on furthest char

[frozen prairie]

what is the best bubo bar for moles?

[inland lintel]

Should I print Bleach logs or use atoms to upgrade Stable Jenius?

[bold quiver]

whatever u feel more like it

[potent gust]

help, why can't I trade here 😮 ?

[rustic garnet]

a better roll is like '50' more wis, so meh

[rustic garnet]

rounding

[potent gust]

arggg thanks o/

[tacit tulip]

yeah will probably be like 8.9 or something dumb 😄

[bright quail]

is there a cooking chart by any chance? to show talents, cards etc.?

[dreamy spruce]

skill efficiency talents, afk gain talent

[plush spear]

How to reach above 300 talents? Beside slugs, i can't afford slugs

[dreamy spruce]

dont think you get above 300 without slug

[plush spear]

[tacit tulip]

Most stuff doesn't work on cooking so for cards you'd want

afk % (rabbit, amarok)
all eff (C troll)
Exp (mutated mush, biggie smalls)

[bright quail]

thanks is there any specific gear?

[plush spear]

I want to see my bubo goes nuts with 300 respawn but i guess that's not possible for f2p

[dreamy spruce]

Cooking shoes and rings

afk gain cape

[tacit tulip]

there's cooking clogs (and the upgraded type), cooknig rings (though eff rings eventually overtake)

[bright quail]

alr thanks

[tacit tulip]

afk cape, afk necklace, there's also an afk hat you can get via idle skilling

[dreamy spruce]

Theres also ladle stamp which helps a lot

[solid epoch]

Pretty sure that talent needs to be lvl 400 for the next boost

[tacit tulip]

ah not afk but skill eff

[plush spear]

Really? Oh well

[jagged barn]

Eff hat*

[bold quiver]

funny hat

[potent gust]

Oh yeaaah \o/

[bright quail]

should i use candy to get chef hat shoes?

[dreamy spruce]

Nice

[bold quiver]

niceeee gz

[potent gust]

I don't know on which to use it but : Yeaaaaaaaaah haha thanks 😭 ❤️

[untold saffron]

got my first pink plates in cooking

https://i.gyazo.com/7d9ab05237d05fae282a52dd229cc972.png

cooking speed go brrr

[potent gust]

Idk how to optimize that

[bold quiver]

there isnt much to it. Its all about what u wanna do

[potent gust]

I mean that one seems an important one for the 3d lab but since i'm still low level in divinity and stuck with the lab

I'm not sure if in the end it's worth to be used :/

[bold quiver]

It is very important but its also some kinda of late game god

[potent gust]

(finally hitting the Doot wall I guess)

[bold quiver]

A good combo is playing with ES active using both bear god and hare god

so u keep hare god on link and use bear god with talent

[untold saffron]

optimizing gods depends massively on where you are in progression

[potent gust]

Xan Irelia is my ES active (well these days she's doing the meditation to give some level for everybody)

[untold saffron]

https://i.gyazo.com/febd5c9f712e2356b83204fb38849029.png

this is my god links

[potent gust]

If I followed what i've read right now i'm doing that :
Bear to everybody who are in the lab for the bonus. Will move them to the Goat ASAP.
My ES has the Snake + The mantis for farming
My Mman has the Snake because i need to catch up on skilling levels

[bold quiver]

One of the bestgod conbinations later is 9 omniphau + 1 purmep

[bold quiver]

seem decent. I wouldnt use snake + mantis on active ES tho, seems kinda of a waste '.'

unlesss u are doing deathnote

[potent gust]

I use snake because sometimes I still have some afk periods but yeaaaah

[untold saffron]

what about atoms though

[potent gust]

Yep I do

Like when I use her, I just go for some Death Note stacking in priority with some looting

[bold quiver]

doesnt matter, progressing fast in the game is a lot more important than atoms. aka finishing sailing/gaming/refinery

once u are mostly done with those u swap to 6 harieph 4 omniphau

[potent gust]

but my ES could be the right example of using the rabbit

[bold quiver]

or 4 whatever u want, doesnt necessarily have to be omniphau (but stil the best cuz 3d prints)

[untold saffron]

you already get a lot of gaming and sailing procs from hamsters and bubbles but fair

[bold quiver]

oh u have no idea how broken omniphau is for that kkkkk

hampters and bubbles barely proc sailing dude

[potent gust]

With the bonus it'd feel good

[bold quiver]

and u proc multiple times, which mean u can get 3 sailing procs in 1 afk claim

[untold saffron]

i personally get a lot of procs from them it seems, I only have 3 eldritch left to go though so its late to be getting efficient

[bold quiver]

yeah i agree, hahaha not that important having 9 omni

[bold quiver]

but i'd still have 4 or at least 3 for u, cuz those 3d prints are nice for atoms

[signal osprey]

Just get 100% golden hampter proc chance

[bold quiver]

need 3 procs, 1 is too little!

[bold quiver]

do u still use hampters on your characters?

i stopped using mostly cuz no reason kkkkkk

[dreamy spruce]

didnt increase it that much for me, 80 -> 85k with some gear upgrades

[signal osprey]

I never bothered to take them off

What else am I gonna use in lab

[bold quiver]

greenstack?

[bold quiver]

cheese?

[signal osprey]

I can use both

[bold quiver]

not much going on lab :[

[potent gust]

See you in 10 years

[bold quiver]

thats the most important god to keep leveling your lab guys!

[potent gust]

i can't wait for that

no more divinity days

back to the lab days state

🤔

[dreamy spruce]

How good is this bubble?

[bold quiver]

u get both! Divinity + lab

[potent gust]

i know but you put them on the lab haha

[copper river]

Pretty good

[bold quiver]

atk speed is used into afk gains equation, but its map dependant so decent?

no idea how strong it actualy is =/ One of those things that may or may not be very strong early/late

[dreamy spruce]

alright, thanks

[bold quiver]

like this one. Many people sleep on it but its one of the best bubbles for progression

cuz it allow u to push portals with afk gains with even shittier stats (being max efficient) - but falls off pretty hard later

[lyric sequoia]

If you can atom it out of the way it doesn’t matter whether it’s good or bad tbh

[vestal yew]

does anyone know what the name of the amulet is in this minechart?

!minechart

[obtuse orbit]

Created by u/TrazCS

[dreamy spruce]

I think its the flurbo shop necklace, last one

something bouquet

[vestal yew]

dang... is there a good necklace that doesnt cost that much..?

for skill effic

[bold quiver]

Yes.

this one is free

[lusty wedge]

Lol, yeah "free"

[vestal yew]

hell nah 💀

[bold quiver]

hahaha i dont remember there being a good necklace besides persephone

[signal osprey]

Theres a fishing neck but nothing for the other 3 skills

[vestal yew]

thats okay, I'll just be a gross necklace swapper for now

[bold quiver]

I used sleek shank on all my characters until i got chizoar scarf

good necklace, has weapon power, 2 defense slots, 4 base def. Pogg

[glossy rain]

any1 having tips to get that up to snail? got cooking dishes etc.... but its soooooo slow to get up in the billions

[bold quiver]

not rly, just keep doing what uve been at

Focus bit upgrades on fertilizer bits thing

[glossy rain]

hmmm oke

D.

[raw badger]

You can push Ur log for more possible card games - more possible chemical plants - more bits

[mighty karma]

Just unlocked the shovel in gaming, what’s this do?

[fading cape]

just make sure that your idle divine knight always has max level on the enhanced bits skill.

[fading cape]

You click on it every hour or so. It digs up a nugget. The highest value nugget you've unearthed becomes your bits multiplier

[glossy rain]

ah is that only active?

uff

[dreamy spruce]

it stacks up over time

so clicking every 8 hours also works, its just less efficient

[fading cape]

yes it's like library books in world 3. The first one is after an hour or so, after that it takes longer and longer to get another

[tiny drift]

If I have no more praying super bit can I remove all prayers and still get giant monsters to spawn?

[glossy rain]

not anymore

i think

[runic girder]

Heard its bad to use

From like 99% of people

[tiny drift]

I’ve heard the same but when the only prayer I use is giants, what’s the harm?

[gray thicket]

We're at the same stage!

[runic girder]

Harm is youre only using giants

[warm parcel]

I think you should just use more prayers. They can be quite potent. Thought the dimir would know that…

[tiny drift]

I’ve honestly never really messed with em except giants. My MSA is in the 200’s

[runic girder]

Sample prayer?

[tiny drift]

Clever but a Dimir doesn’t pray unlike a dirty Azorius…

So like, what prayers should I be using?

[runic girder]

Sample prayer, giant, skilled dimwit are my base 3

[warm parcel]

Anything that has -xp as a downside basically has no downside.

[runic girder]

Then like golden snitch on hunter, midas one while fighting bosses

Even just sample size prayer is huge

[placid mural]

thank god

[prisma drift]

Well this is new

The crystal took damage from the tremor wurms

And got I-frames?

Is he on my team?

[sick sentinel]

lol i wonder if a ghost appeared like that or something

[prisma drift]

Maybe my bubo so op he spawns crystals

[sick sentinel]

i've had it where crystals dont take damage from me after doing arcade

[prisma drift]

Yeah that was it then

I did arcade

[sick sentinel]

yeah its a weird interaction

only notice it on bubo

[prisma drift]

Now I have a friendly crystal

His HP doesn’t go down like the ghosts tho

So he will stay with me

[sick sentinel]

crystal companion incoming

oh wait we have custard already

[placid mural]

if you are already at 90% printer sample size do you even need the sample prayer?

[zinc torrent]

Stop giving him ideas

[dreamy spruce]

No

[sick sentinel]

no need for sampler at that point, but its unlikely you can reach it on anyone

maybe close for dk

[fallow aurora]

how to unlock green bits?

[untold saffron]

get enough white bits

[fallow aurora]

how much?

[fathom lagoon]

1000 Q

I think

[manic moat]

any decent tips for gaining more critters in trapping? right now I'm using my vman to place them all to stay at a higher level. is that not right?

[errant sluice]

use hunter

not vman

[dreamy spruce]

you get more critters if you place on hunter

[untold saffron]

place on a hunter, use one green trap on your maestro to keep him higher level

[fallow aurora]

ty

[manic moat]

What do you mean by green trap? they all have green trap

[untold saffron]

green traps only give xp

[dreamy spruce]

Dont set natural traps if you want critters

[manic moat]

oh, right. so set all the others to get all qty and no exp, smart. thank you all

[brazen cliff]

The 1 red bit cost for Atom Redux feels...misleading

[untold saffron]

is DR or MK more important for green stacking quest items? (employment stats & instablabs specifically)

[tranquil sinew]

Best is yellow right? For critters

[ebon bridge]

im just nugget-locked rn.. ive had a 4k nugget for like a month+.. cant get into snail range with that

[manic moat]

same

[fathom lagoon]

1 more day and my full squad willl# be div lvl 40+

[pulsar cliff]

Iwould've assumed multikill.

[fathom lagoon]

Can finally bounce from lab/div

[ebon bridge]

DR.

MK shouldn't (queue someone knowing a very specific singular interaction that counters my point) affect the amount of something dropped beyond the main monster material.

[pulsar cliff]

I just don't know that DR actually effects quest drop rate items that aren't natively part of their pool.

You're right about the MK thing though.

KPH rules all? Lol

[ebon bridge]

I also think this.

I just think DR has a better chance of being useful whereas MK certainly should not be.

[pulsar cliff]

FWIW, I just kinda left a quest on a few guys and it natively just happens.

And again, on top of that, green stacking eventually becomes something you kinda stop paying attention to.

[manic moat]

what is second best?

[untold saffron]

the more time goes on the more i feel like i need to pay attention to green stacking, for completionists sake not damage necessarily

[pulsar cliff]

OH Good luck god speed then.

Base KPH will probably have the most influence. AFK rates, respawn rates, movespeed (Until cap).

[gray thicket]

[untold saffron]

I'm gonna trial an hour with DR and one with MK, i'll bring the results back

[gray thicket]

That's too much for only one person to hold, may I hold half for you?

[tranquil sinew]

Tbh idk

[plush spear]

Guys can anyone help? Why my happy hour counts took 28 hours?

[tranquil sinew]

@manic moat yellow, red, and wooden box and metal are tied

[ebon bridge]

is there a min-maxing money guide somewhere? I'm... missing something. I'm doing tremor wurms bubo and only getting like maybe 1gs an hour

[pulsar cliff]

That's justwhen the next one is scheduled?

[dreamy spruce]

maybe you're just missing gmush kills?

[sharp igloo]

Just kill more gmush

[ebon bridge]

I've got 1b, how many do you guys have?

[pulsar cliff]

This is what my cash modifiers looks like. Obviously I'm missing some things but maybe you'll look at it and go ' oh duh '

[sharp igloo]

Im at around 5-6bil, but once I get done deathnoting the rest of w1 im gonna go back to them

[pulsar cliff]

^

I'm at 8b, just taking a break to go eclipse hunting and then back my siege breaker goes

[sharp igloo]

I might not do red and wood mushrooms yet, but at least all the others

[pulsar cliff]

Red felt super quick, I was surprised.

Wood I was getting like 4m / h, no thank you.

[sharp igloo]

Lol i only get 5mil gmush per hour 😂

[pulsar cliff]

I think I'm just shy of 14m

[ebon bridge]

So... your lab is 9x mine (which is just gmush kills, so cool) but your bubbles are like 2.5x mine. What are your money bubbles levels & stats?

[pulsar cliff]

One moment please, your call is very important to me.

They'd be higher but I have that feller in some chizoar gear because I'm lazy.

[odd stream]

What do you use to see your modifiers?

[pulsar cliff]

Idleon Toolbox.

I find it has a more comprehensive breakdown.

[ebon bridge]

hmm, OK. So you're just better than me in every way possible. This is easily trouble-shootable 🤣

[pulsar cliff]

😦 Soary.

I can give you my IE if that would help?

[ebon bridge]

Seems like base stats, gmush kills are my most direct ways to influence it from here

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah I'd sa]y.

[ebon bridge]

i only just today reached 10k main stat on my active

you look like me in 6 months

[odd stream]

Please do

[pulsar cliff]

It scales faster than you think! I was hitting 10k maybe 2 months ago.

[pulsar cliff]

https://baronhotschaft.idleonefficiency.com/

I'm not super efficient so no roasting lol

[ebon bridge]

are you doing hourly clicking stuff? I... kinda refuse to do that on principal

[odd stream]

Thx

[pulsar cliff]

So, yes. But it's kind of a double edged sword.

The easiest things to hourly print are ALSO the things that get me the most atoms, so it's a two for one deal (For the most part)

[frozen prairie]

gotta get those anvil points ;D

[pulsar cliff]

I KNOW. I was told yesterday and today was busy go away

[frozen prairie]

aaah im sorry

[pulsar cliff]

So mostly that looks like: If my Maestro procs printer go brrr, I go through and level up what I can, when I wake up, get back from work, and go to bed.

So ' HOURLY ' printing

[pulsar cliff]

ah I wasn't really mad, soary.

[ebon bridge]

I was... excited to say "ahah yay something I am better than you at" but alas, despite you having almost no anvil pts on your account, you still 2x my anvil speed...

[pulsar cliff]

If you're looking at my Siege Breaker, Audrey Lasbard, he ACTUALLY has all of his points lol

I think his speed is around 34m?

[errant sluice]

i dont even see this breakdown on toolbox

[errant sluice]

this stuff

oh

i found it

haha

[pulsar cliff]

Go to your character, select them, hover over the number attached to cash multiplier.

I got your message that you got it but I refused to back space lol

[pulsar cliff]

Also, crystal spawn chance is one of the most important things for getting cash

[errant sluice]

only 282k money multi

thats a 🤏 if ive ever seen one

[pulsar cliff]

We all start somewhere.

[ebon bridge]

crystal spawn chance is somewhere that I actually have more than you

get rekt

[pulsar cliff]

Huzzuh!

[ebon bridge]

are you f2p?

[pulsar cliff]

Nah

I mean, I buy the bundles if they strike my fancy, but nothing inbetween.

[ebon bridge]

just surprised to see your genie not ruby'd

[pulsar cliff]

Not the most efficient choices, but it made me happy lol

[ebon bridge]

youre going for ruby bosses n nightmare set bonus?

[pulsar cliff]

Aye

[ebon bridge]

welp... that will be epic when you have that lol

[vestal yew]

does linking anyone to a god prove beneficial if you have king doot?

[pulsar cliff]

You just need someone linked to Purrmep or you won't get the secondary. Preeeeetty sure that's the only one.

[vestal yew]

ah okay, so her ability can work on everyone?

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah purr is just weird being the only that HAS to still be linked w/ doot

[pulsar cliff]

Having the boss cards on ruby means I can also just doing normal runs for gems. Kattle has been amazing for that.

11 seconds per run x 42% chance at gem drop = lots of gems

[ebon bridge]

any advice on getting mainstats multiplier up?

Ive already got lava/divine gear with t5 stones, a few all % stat bonuses, feel like I'm not exactly sure how to scale stats so hard

level 300 equipment talent

[pulsar cliff]

I'm done sailing, there's a few there.

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=All Stat

I'd use this.

Shows kinda all sources of All Stat %

The VMan talent for raw stats is also crazy strong. +2 for all, and +2 per level for each.

Ends up being ... well. A lot of base stats which then hit all your multis.

Also make sure you're up on your meals and shiny mobs in breeding.

[ebon bridge]

hmm ive got like 45 portal clears and still dont feel like I have enough to justify going into that talent...

[frozen prairie]

is it better to try for all t6 plants at once? or should I just focus on a single type?

[ebon bridge]

yeah, i think my next big source of progress is getting ancient (at least) +10 meal artifact

[rustic garnet]

better is an exxtremely weird idea here... I would say you want to cycle the timer plants still, as you can get some insane times that way

but it depends on how you 'play' the game

[frozen prairie]

i dont have chem yet, so would you just recommend clicking cacti?

[rustic garnet]

if you don't like clicking a lot, then w/e

whhhat?

how do you have level 6 opened?

link your IE?

[frozen prairie]

is the bottom left one not t6?

https://le_taz.idleonefficiency.com/

[ebon bridge]

^ I'm about to be in this situation as well (no chem, but t6s unlocked)

[marsh knot]

So working on my barbarian cook getting him to moles for the boss quests should i just be focusing on respawn speed and multi kill while active to get him there faster ?

[pulsar cliff]

Multi and AFK.

Though I will warn you, for the quest multikill ACTIVE doesn't count, only raw kills. AFK ounts multikill.

[marsh knot]

ah i just need to get there atm hes still at mr brightside lol so ive been actively killing to get portals opened asap but ill afk once there for the quest

[rustic garnet]

ok as long as you aren't going for the last one

but I would definitely say get chem... are you spamming it?

every time you can click, yous pam it?

unlocking chem will give you 5 levels easily, which will be about the same value as all t6

[untold saffron]

105% a decent point to leave CC bubble for awhile and use atoms on other bubbles?

[tacit tulip]

it's more than enough to sustain your adventures, more is just more grind time

[opaque sun]

more helps to shorten each cc session to fill liquid, but 105 should be fine for the most part

I did get 115 on mine tho

105 to 115 means +10% faster cooldown, +10% longer duration and most of all +10% more sec per kill. So its a rather nice effect in total

[wanton stag]

is it better to farm chaotic and nightmare bosses from a drop to key ratio or is single keys(normal) better when you have the patience

like do hire bosses drop more loot per key? or have better drop tables?

[willow drum]

higher difficulty bosses have better cards and better drop rates for the rare items. It depends on what you need.

[wanton stag]

trying to farm world 5 boss teeth for the armor. takes about 1min to kill on chaotic was wondering if it would be faster on normal?

[opaque sun]

but higher difficulty has worse drop rate if you consider per keys

[wanton stag]

i got like 4000 keys sooo its more time at this point

[opaque sun]

Doing 4000 normal will take time, but per key wise it has the most chance for pendant

Of course, if your option is to get trophy, you have to do nightmare

[wanton stag]

ya i dont have the damage for nightmare yet would take like 15H to get 1 kill

[opaque sun]

Chaos doesnt have much reason to farm as if you look at per keys, its slightly worse than normal, and if you want to save irl time, there is nightmare which also drops capes (trophy) with just slightly worse pendant rate per key

[wanton stag]

so i should run normal untill i can do nightmare

[opaque sun]

basically

[wanton stag]

ty

[opaque sun]

With 4000 runs you can probably max normal cards, so in that case maybe move to chaos after you reach ruby

[pearl rover]

What do yall think I should do for sailing, currently I'm on island 12 unlocking Trilobite Rock (multikill) & going for Ancient Crystal Steak on Island 11. I have Eldritch unlocked, should I go back and get Eldritch on a few of the early ones? Or is the % really low?

[opaque sun]

At that point its whatever stat you want

[pearl rover]

I guess like is it more effective to go back to get more sailing speed etc?

[opaque sun]

Eldritch of early island is kind of like ancient of later islands

[pearl rover]

Hmm okay

[opaque sun]

Getting the artifact chance one early helps out in your artifact farming of course

[pearl rover]

Yeah okay, cheers. I think I know what to do cheers.

[silk shale]

what to look for in captains after all islands are discovered? loot and speed is best combo?

[dry jasper]

Any tips on how to beat nightmare kattle on barb? DPS needed?

[muted nest]

I barely managed to do it with 350b dmg and it was a painful experience. Now I'm stuck with my weakass vman

[plush spear]

Nightmare kattle health is at 1000T, so you do the math with your dps

[little pagoda]

I've been farming demon genie cards for 2 days now, I really hope my DK can do at least somewhat consistent crystal farming after I go through all of this to increase crystal odds

[exotic juniper]

umm i just hit 155,000x on shovel tool in gaming. last highest was only 7,00x. 155k is a lot, right?

[little pagoda]

sure is

I'm at 23,9x

But I only got it 2 days ago so I'm not complaining

[exotic juniper]

yeah thats great for 2 days in

[little pagoda]

I almost have enough for next box now, hopefully it helps with multiplying my bits a little more

My growth cycle is still like 6hrs, gaming is soooo slow

I know you can getr that down to a few minutes right?

[exotic juniper]

im sure yea

[little pagoda]

I think gaming is underrated, when you get that shit going you can get so many bonuses using your trillions of quadrillions of bits

[exotic juniper]

150,000x is only lvl 9 on the merit shop for gold nugget. still need 200kx then whatever isa fter

[thin rose]

yeah

[thin rose]

what

you went from 700 to 155k?

[exotic juniper]

7k to 155k

[thin rose]

thats...nuts

[exotic juniper]

yea lol. excited for some hours to go by and see how many bits i get lol

[thin rose]

@muted sandal this dude went from 7k nugget to 155k

[exotic juniper]

what is your nugget at @thin rose

[thin rose]

leave me alone

[modern plaza]

u’re gonna zoom now

[muted sandal]

That must’ve been some wildly bad luck to have no upgrade since 7k lmao

This is a well deserved nugget