lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[sharp wind]

Eh how do u get that ring?

[dapper prism]

Star sign, page 1, somewhere on the right

[twilit goblet]

equip star sign and pray

[dapper prism]

probably best when on bubo

[sharp wind]

Infinite doesnt do shit?

[dapper prism]

Doesnt feel like it, but circ said some claimed that they did get it 🤷

[sick sentinel]

i could have understood them wrong too

[dapper prism]

well no wonder i wouldnt have had it either way:
https://i.imgur.com/loNRhag.png

[modern plaza]

yeah i mean i've been active for way more than enough and still not a single one

anyways will probably get it tonight ;D

[dapper prism]

Do you have it unlocked? xd

[modern plaza]

i didn't have it unlocked, i had it infinited tho

[dapper prism]

Same, but does that count?

[modern plaza]

does that mean i need to have them unlocked for infinite to work?

i unlocked the wisdom one to test, nogains to my stat so i guess not

[dapper prism]

u changed map?

[modern plaza]

yes

[sick sentinel]

i did the class exp one and it didnt change

[modern plaza]

even cloud saved, nothing

it does say it does have to be equipped tho so...

[dapper prism]

Guess we will just both get it now xD

[opaque sun]

most other infinite starsigns doesnt need to be equipped, but that sanic drop thing should need a actual activation

[bold quiver]

oh damn thats sad

is it hard to drop it? '.'

[modern plaza]

it will only take a minute lol 😂

bubo be like vroom vroom

[bold quiver]

ohh true

lol dont even have this unlocked

[sick sentinel]

i would doubt drop rate affects it

but can be wrong

[opaque sun]

It is not affected by dr and multikills

[bold quiver]

im feeling it doesnt

[dapper prism]

I'd also doubt it

[modern plaza]

best char to farm pearls? dk active or should i just afk everyone there?

[opaque sun]

but if you bubo on wurms with that lighted, you will get one quite reliably

[bold quiver]

gotcha, gonna use it next time i fill my water

[dapper prism]

just candy a bit, they come pretty often with guaranteed drops

[fast grail]

Anyone happen to know where in the json is how many kills my bb has in the rift?

Lost track . . .

[dapper prism]

toolbox shows it

[fast grail]

oh it does?

[dapper prism]

https://idleontoolbox.com/account/apocalypses?c=squire&b=4

[modern plaza]

but i need like 1200 pearls for my account progression

[dapper prism]

Well rip, that's many xD

[opaque sun]

Also im not sure if star sign double chips makes that to 0.0002%

[bold quiver]

why cant we choose the color of our characters

[sick sentinel]

new green gem item

[wanton obsidian]

Can someone send the gem tier list by Tony?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i wanna be black

[dapper prism]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[modern plaza]

doot

[dapper prism]

idk how outdated that is

[wanton obsidian]

Uh

[modern plaza]

does it have doot on it?

[wanton obsidian]

Can I have another tier list?

[modern plaza]

just get doot first than you can focus on blue gems

[wanton obsidian]

This one kinda bad

[vagrant mountain]

!gem

[wanton obsidian]

Ty

[bold quiver]

only wrong information on this one are the color cauldrons being D tier. They are A tier

cuz very important for early progression

[modern plaza]

Vinny what do you have questions about tho? like just buy out the entire shop

[vagrant mountain]

i think the gem tier list is subjective to your progress in the game

[wanton obsidian]

Just seeing if it's a good idea to buy divinity xp

[twilit goblet]

anyone up to review a stranger's IE? currently just working on getting stronger and more dmg to push rift + getting more samples for atom

https://canaryz.idleonefficiency.com

[bold quiver]

only if excess gems

[modern plaza]

cog storage is kinda useless but pet storage is good way later on in breeding

[vagrant mountain]

i bought 6

[bold quiver]

ive never bought 1 pet storage and never had problems o.o

[wanton obsidian]

It's more of a need for me rn since I have 8 chars in divinity

[bold quiver]

u only need 6 pets for your team comp and u trash everything else

[modern plaza]

haha well how long have u been playing tho!?

[vagrant mountain]

div level?

[bold quiver]

5 months

[modern plaza]

old chads probably don’t need pet storage 😄

[bold quiver]

wdym? o.o there isnt a reason to get pet storage lol

[modern plaza]

dang u have killer progression

[wanton obsidian]

10 is my highest my average lvl is 5+

[bold quiver]

u need 6 pets for arena and u can trash everything else

u wil hatch and place on spices, hatch and place on fence

what do u need 50 extra slots for

[modern plaza]

gotta save those high breeding pets lol

[bold quiver]

why lol

[modern plaza]

brooo rank 7 breeding 🙂

[vagrant mountain]

i think it will take about 2 weeks for you to reach lvl 40 if that helps your decision

[dapper prism]

power is irrelevant for breeding pets though, no?

[bold quiver]

it is

[opaque sun]

breedability pet that wasted a high pet power roll is a good candidate for BM’s wp talent

[modern plaza]

oh power doesn’t make the breeding better!?

[bold quiver]

? why woould it

[sharp wind]

Damn 100k my best one only 60/70k

[bold quiver]

thats an ancient panda for u!

[wanton obsidian]

Idm waiting, just waiting for the god that lets me have them in lab

[opaque sun]

Pet power 1 pink pet works the same as 1 bizillionn pet power

[modern plaza]

i’d just figure breeding lvl would go faster with higher power derp

[sharp wind]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-po-kung-fu-panda-furious-five-gif-20411959

That is poo my brother

[opaque sun]

A better use is to place on top left of storage to add a minor buff to BM wp

[bold quiver]

but u dont even place pets anywhere to breed

u just pick here and hatch, why would u assume u need any power pet on storage o.o

[vagrant mountain]

if you can wait then just wait because you get more div exp% from other sources

[modern plaza]

breedable multi doesn’t gian faster with higher heart power pets

[bold quiver]

lol no, u just randomly assumed that kkkkkkkkk kinda sad

[opaque sun]

pink pet with high pet power only useful for BM talent, else its same as 1

[modern plaza]

so u get same breedable multi speed with all pet power 1 wow kek

[bold quiver]

even here its saying that its for new pet

[wanton obsidian]

Oh really like? What's a good one early

[bold quiver]

ofc

[modern plaza]

that’s silly 🙃

[vagrant mountain]

theres a stamp, po box, and purple bubble

[modern plaza]

well no wonder lvl 7 is unreachable

[opaque sun]

Breedability levels uses similar mechanic as shiny pets

[bold quiver]

unfortunate, u just did random assumptions based on nothing kkkkkkkkk

at least now u know

[modern plaza]

dont think it was random but kek

[bold quiver]

extremely random,

[modern plaza]

u are random

[sharp wind]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-face-gif-24004933

[opaque sun]

My current beast master’s favorite pet is like a 150k pink panda that sucked up a good roll, but had to appear pink

[modern plaza]

[sharp wind]

Theres a pink panda??

[opaque sun]

Beeedability panda

[sharp wind]

Ohh

[lavish quiver]

Bruh

[sharp wind]

https://tenor.com/view/inazuma-eleven-go-chrono-stone-inago-cs-anime-bear-kuma-gif-21352148

[sharp wind]

I thought this is what u mean

[opaque sun]

I was aiming to update my spice foraging team’s pet power, and those cringe pink pets appear with high rolls

[bold quiver]

how do u get a pink panda without it being shiny

[sharp wind]

Even better kill them with hearts

[sharp wind]

He means the breed one

[opaque sun]

Like dont choose shiny?

[bold quiver]

never seena pink panda

not being shiny

[opaque sun]

pink as in breedability pink

[bold quiver]

oh not a pink panda, i see

[opaque sun]

Like just the same conversation right above

[bold quiver]

i was trying to figure out how did u hatch a pink shiny panda with power '.'

wsnt making any sense

[opaque sun]

Those wasted high rolled breedability pets are good BM talent booster tho

[sharp wind]

Wonder how long it takes now to reach 200 with 150k avg team

Not crazy enough to try tho

[opaque sun]

It just helps the initial build up phase so wont differ too much

[modern plaza]

probably 10x faster 😄

[bold quiver]

i havent ever seen a 150k pet and im at 69 almost 70 breeding lvl

how high is your breeding lvl top?

[opaque sun]

It would make a 2hr fight to 1hr50min fight more like

Lv70 ish breed

[sharp wind]

Is the lv 90 bonus available already? And is there anyone reach that lvl?

[opaque sun]

Checked, was 73 to be exact

[modern plaza]

what’s the highest u see rn? im at lvl 58 and get lvl 60k

[opaque sun]

Lv90 i think is a placeholder (checked by code digger)

[modern plaza]

lvl90, can bring pets with you to fight

[bold quiver]

probably 105k

[modern plaza]

yeah pet power is definitely on an exponential curve it feels like

[bold quiver]

all my burgers are over 80k and all my other spices pets are over 60

havent ever tried hatching platinum egg to see at my current lvl

[modern plaza]

don’t think egg rarity increases pet power

[bold quiver]

insane multiplier

its the strongest multiplier for pet power '.'

[sharp wind]

Thought lava will drop in 10mins

[modern plaza]

pet power just based on breeding lvl and hunter talent whattt

[bold quiver]

oh man u should read more dude

your breeding knowledge is very flawed kkkkkkkk

[opaque sun]

Egg does increase the range of pet power (it adds on top of what you rolled)

[bold quiver]

t would be fineif u were just starting out on w4 tho

[opaque sun]

But a roll still happens so you can still get a shitty pet power from a bad rolled dreadlo egg

[bold quiver]

yep

[opaque sun]

Its reliable than a gaming nugget roll

[bold quiver]

only dif is that u cant get a very high pet power without good egg rarity

i for example cant get 90k pets on white, but i can get 70ish if lucky

but if i roll on gold i can easily get 90k

check this out, cool number lol

[modern plaza]

wow eggs colors are breeding multiplier and power multiplier! insane

[royal cliff]

Which archer is best for this weeks killroy? SB or BM?

[opaque sun]

Rare eggs has one downside of having same dead dna amount as white eggs as once they are pets, it discards any info of what eggs it came from

aiming to hatch something in silver - platinum i think had an overall better breed skill exp than purely hatching white eggs

[royal cliff]

He meant he updated the model in 10 minutes

[tawdry steeple]

bm

[royal cliff]

not BM

Noooooooo

[sharp wind]

Ik, i thought 10 mins he drop it then i realized and feel stupid about it

[modern plaza]

probably update submitted tmrw?

[tawdry steeple]

bm is definitely better for killroy, had my highest points ever using him this week, got me 300+

[dapper prism]

a lot of variables on that "score"

[royal cliff]

Bm was horrible last week compared to my dk

[modern plaza]

no beta drop yet so we’ll see

[dapper prism]

Who even needs beta, let's gooo!

[tawdry steeple]

also was only comparing bm to sb

[royal cliff]

I will be back

[opaque sun]

lava just meant “my drawing progress after 10 min”

bm killroy capability kind of also depends how flat (360 no scope) the map is

[royal cliff]

SB is better on flat maps

[stuck elbow]

almost there..

[modern plaza]

holy shit update on idleon!

[dapper prism]

I cant tell if real or not

[stuck elbow]

there was an update on steam but no conetnt..

[willow drum]

msireading what the post was

[placid mural]

Update?

[vagrant mountain]

update?

[dapper prism]

lol was literally opening Gifs for that meme right now xD

[placid mural]

-change mine to "update?"-

[noble hound]

Has something changed with printing? All the numbers used to be purple and now they are all gold. Printing hardly any atoms now. I have doot and havent changed any of the linked gods

[placid mural]

That happens on occasion

I've been told it's just a visual bug

[noble hound]

But im also hardly printing atoms so its not visual

[sick sentinel]

Is your lab connected?

[noble hound]

I have people in lab, running bear god and using doot

[sick sentinel]

Ie shows your print values and lab/god connection on there if you have access to it

There is a visual bug that displays prints as the wrong thing in game tho

Given that everything is connected correctly

[signal osprey]

If you have doot then you're getting 6x prints and the display is gold because of the visual bug

And yes the bug is purely visual. If your atom gain is low that just means you should try getting bigger samples

[modern plaza]

for a second there i read if you have doot then you’re playing a different game

[opaque sun]

The printer visual may screw up when using dk as when an orb kill is updated, it tries to reapply the printer bonus and also refresh the printer visuals

[wind umbra]

is sailing loot pile maxed at 30? I got the eldritch version of dream catcher and loot pile didnt increase to 32

[opaque sun]

Dream catcher eldritch is known to have the wrong lava code of raising something that doesnt exist

So its not capped, just eldritch dream catcher giving no bonus

[wind umbra]

oh ok thanks

is the inventory space capped tho? after 5th slot it doesnt increase anymore as well lol

[opaque sun]

Yeah ui limitations of lava not made more tabs for inventory

So if you have all inventory bags, few slots above the cap does nothing atm

[dapper prism]

Yeh 30, effectively 50 without SB talent 11

[wind umbra]

is it better to wait until lava updates ui to use bags or do u think he will let u have the extra bag spaces that u used?

[little pagoda]

Doubt the int he stores number of inventories is capped so probably safe to use

[zealous niche]

If they’re non-gem bags, what’s the harm in using them?

[little pagoda]

But there's many ways to code this so who knows

[wind umbra]

makes sense thanks for confirming

[willow sorrel]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[obsidian nacelle]

WOOOO! finally got evergreen in gaming. Feeling accomplished cause i got it off 1% too

[zealous niche]

You should be rolling all of your plants off 1% or less.. what do you mean

Are you waiting to roll higher chances

[still apex]

How fast do endgame es' attack with their best weapon, speedy book, attack speed bubble and whatever else? Does chaotic force become stupidly strong?

[strong nova]

main dps still from scaling i guess

meteor do the job better

[obsidian nacelle]

no need to sound so upset 😆
But Yes, yes I was. with my current setup, I as making an easy (imo) 4% in a little over an hour so i figured why not wait.

[crisp silo]

Now the chem grind begins welcome to the 0.5% clicks (about 100 genes)

[zealous niche]

Roll as many times as your sanity can handle

After every plant is optimal but mind-breaking

[crisp silo]

Till 100 genes scaling is decent

[obsidian nacelle]

🫡 aye aye Sir!

[crisp silo]

But every 0.1% rolls make you feel more lucky

[zealous niche]

Yeah, a few plants or a board per roll is still good

[limber prairie]

Divinity takes so long then there’s a whole percentage to get the temple things

[twilit goblet]

worth sitting in island 1 for the moai head or just move on the next island eldritch?

[opaque sun]

getting shrine effect from w4 town when farming w5 is big

But post ancient, its whatever

your shrine levels should be slow anyway, but eventually get the eldritch

[twilit goblet]

yea it is slowing down a lot, and im not in w4 much unless rift afk i think

[cloud tiger]

Anyone with doot able to clarify - I have gotten Div level 2 on characters and can tell that some God's are active. However when I put them in lab my Divinity per hour goes to 0/hr for that character

[twilit goblet]

next big one to aim for would be fury relic? and frost relic? or just get them all one islan at a time

[opaque sun]

in total, shrines should be in w4 town due to you will have a cook visit there and also send people to lab periodically (even if you have doot)

[twilit goblet]

yea that's true, ill have cook in there in the future after leveling my bb up a bit

[opaque sun]

w5 doesnt have a long term reason to stay once w6 is out

[twilit goblet]

shud i just pop the chem now rather than waiting to get more? only these 2 plants left to get t5

ive been accumulating voraci and chem tho

[willow sorrel]

div/hr doesnt show when they're in lab even if they have goahrut

only when they are on the altar

they still get div pts

just doesnt show

[cloud tiger]

Ohh awesome, ty for clarifying. So even if it shows 0/hr it will still accrue as long as they are uploaded to Lab?

[willow sorrel]

ye

[stiff prairie]

Can confirm, i just did an overnight lab level with most chars in lab, yesterday i couldn't get a divinity try, today i could.

[cloud tiger]

Awesome 😄 bit weird to understand doot's impact when there arent really indicators for a lot of it lol

[stiff prairie]

Divinity turned up to 11.

I don't think it showed up when i was using goat before doot either.

[cloud tiger]

Ahh ok, makes sense then i suppose

[vagrant mountain]

now for 100k...

[stiff prairie]

I wish we could afk for rift's non-afk challenges.

[haughty sedge]

Going strong

almost halfway there

[untold saffron]

Is cooking xp ever not absolutely horrible

[crisp silo]

Cooking has horrible xp gain, most ppl use ballons

[untold saffron]

Maestros right hand doesn't work with cooking effi does if?

[covert sphinx]

do bubos level sigils faster ?

[zealous niche]

Only gems level sigils faster

[vagrant mountain]

nice dude, what is your favourite map for plunder mobs?

[wheat kiln]

When update is coming

I cant wait for new staf

[viral snow]

Afaik its only for w1-3

[viral snow]

Thats almost 30x my score

[hexed elm]

do w5 constellations not exist yet

[viral snow]

There are some

[stiff prairie]

Theres 7 total constellations in w5, totalling 34 points

[haughty sedge]

dont have one, i am currently green stacking and farming plunder mobs

[fresh plank]

There a way around rift 43 aside from more dmg?

[opaque sun]

if you are one shotting, more damage does nothing. Its mostly about orb duration (orb talent levels)

If you still have valentine slimes left, you can use that to cheese kills as those count towards orb too

[vagrant mountain]

i see, thanks

[fresh plank]

Oooo gon try that

That worked, thx xD

[muted bramble]

after 4 ours ... i can tell you i regret everything

[dapper prism]

r0fp

[opaque sun]

Valentine slimes also helps to cheese SB coin rift too. It does not directly count more kills, but by spamming valentine after killing first plunder mobs helps to drop lot of coins

[dapper prism]

at least its bubo and u can auto xD

[muted bramble]

yea

i watched the one piece movie and a comedy show ...

[vagrant mountain]

lmao

did you get anything good? 😆

[runic girder]

I feel like valenslimes are used to cheeze a lot

[opaque sun]

Also limited in number of times you can do, Valentine can super boost the slush drops after charging up 10 of them. Good when farming slush obols for the family

[muted bramble]

What is that thing with the valenslimes you guys talking about ?

[dapper prism]

certain event items that spawn mobs (for loot) but basically using those to push other mechanics

[vagrant mountain]

saving these for a rainy day

[crisp silo]

Rookie numbers

Also dont the golden ones spawn bosses?

[dapper prism]

Yes, and your game will look like this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1087898947772747816/LegendsOfIdleon_70YyhRSEdN.png

[crisp silo]

Ez boss drops

Cards gonna go crazy

[fast grail]

Any tips for freezing on DK at wurms? Seems i cant active for more than 2-3 hours without just freezing

[dapper prism]

filter drops?

[fast grail]

I filter the wurm mob drop

nothing really on the ground, at least nothing stays more than 20 secds

Can big enough daggerrang cause crash?

[limber prairie]

Anyone know a guide for like everything of world 4

Like I feel like I missing something

[fast grail]

this was section of screen when crashed

pretty much nothing on ground

[dapper prism]

Like what? w4 is like.. a straight forward world. Lab and cooking is simple and breeding is just slow, sped up with eggs that can be grinded

[fast grail]

biggest thing you would be missing is w4 bubbles, diamond chef in particular

[limber prairie]

When I do try to get bubbles there like all fails

[fresh plank]

Any tricks for this one? Im doing the small platform thing already, highest I get is 46/60 🤡

[fast grail]

upgrade cauldron in p2w tab, only unlock on bubo

[opaque sun]

For valentines event, lava gave people pink envelope items that can spawn an event monster anywhere. You can still use it to add easy kills to charge the orb of DK

[runic girder]

More damage

[dapper prism]

go down the rope on the far far left

[fast grail]

~100b-130b damage is required

[hardy bloom]

wait it still summones valenslime?

[fresh plank]

Guess I just need crazier dmg ;o

[fast grail]

What is your current damage?

[opaque sun]

Some practical uses is to cheese orb kill requirements for rift, other is to add lot of kills on a mob and kill mini bosses to super drops

[fresh plank]

50b

[fast grail]

Yeah, need at least double that

[opaque sun]

Valentine envelope is still usable yes if you still have it

[vagrant mountain]

i think take some levels out of big boomerang, thats huge lmao

[hardy bloom]

cant you use it on bosses and stack orb kills before you kill the boss?

[fast grail]

could be even higher, but yeah, just going to unequip for now as i dont think its really needed for wurms

[hardy bloom]

cuz i wanted to get boss wings

[muted bramble]

which boss ?

[hardy bloom]

any boss except amarok and w5 boss

i only have amarok wings so far

[runic girder]

Troll wings best wings

[dapper prism]

Troll? most annoying to grind probably

[hardy bloom]

so yeah i wanted to get efaunt chiz and troll wings

[opaque sun]

troll wings sadly outdated. Its just for slab

[muted bramble]

:/

[opaque sun]

for stats, there was valentine roses

[hardy bloom]

yeah i only had one tho

i wanna get other wings for my other charas

[opaque sun]

But you dont use stats for afk

[hardy bloom]

but so far i still only got 2-3 amarok, and i dont want the stats

[opaque sun]

kattle afk cape which also acts as trophy exists

[muted bramble]

these do be good tho

[untold saffron]

Are efaunt wings the only useful boss wing?

[opaque sun]

Not bis, but riftcape is like “if you only can buy one cape” thing

[hardy bloom]

should i use slimes on DK and fight bosses, or just fight with vman

[muted bramble]

they just casually sitting on my lab character :/

[opaque sun]

on world boss gimmie gimmie (Dk orb mechanic uses same thing) does not work

[muted bramble]

rate this god of a build

[dapper prism]

those rings hurt

[opaque sun]

That for combat?

[muted bramble]

i know they do so much emotional dmg to bosses

[fast grail]

Wait, riftwalker gives 60 defense???? Wonder if its better than amarock for defeense for me . . .

[opaque sun]

Where is the melee weapon?

[muted bramble]

just did W5 boss in 5h 😄

[dapper prism]

His dmg is still so low that melee may not be worth it?

[muted bramble]

here is melee

[opaque sun]

On mobs its always worth it, but for boss specific staff okay as long he places it

[dapper prism]

yeh going based on his earlier pic, standing on boss

[muted bramble]

Peak performance right there

[opaque sun]

Whats with the unupgraded lab rings

[muted bramble]

they have a hidden stat

its : "+10b emotional dmg to anyone bestowing their eyes on it"

so thats a clean 20b dmg right there

[dapper prism]

Funny thing, 20b would still be terrible for nm kruk xD

[opaque sun]

sounds like “posting something stupid to get more reactions on internet”

[muted bramble]

thats my actual bubo build lmao

just cant be bothered to do dungeon for rings

[deft grail]

dungeon kinda fun tbh

[viral snow]

Could atleast get neutrons or w/e theyre called from rams tho

[muted bramble]

wanna carry me for a couple of run at one point ?

[hardy bloom]

is opal better than this for 5k agi stat

i wanna know how high the jump in dmg will be, so that i would know if i should prioritize opal first

[opaque sun]

for active combat, opal beats all others

[muted bramble]

lmao my BS in comparison

[fast grail]

damn, fmj isnt quite high enough, amarock still barely beats riftwalker

[opaque sun]

But active rings is more of “there isnt any other stats to put it there”

[haughty sedge]

dungeon rings>>>>

[opaque sun]

Like in your case, having two opals might make your damage to like 1200m. Its something but not crucial

[hardy bloom]

ahhh its not that huge of a jump. thank you

[opaque sun]

its something you spend on after maxing other stuff with flurbos

Persephone is a bigger impact honestly

[deft grail]

sure

[muted bramble]

well its 4am right now so ill just add you as a friend and dm you tomorrow for whenever you available

good for you ?

[deft grail]

go to bed young man

[hardy bloom]

which dungeon is good for flurbo farming rn?

[deft grail]

yea I can do a runz 2moro

[muted bramble]

isnt first dungeon the only good option

[hardy bloom]

oooh ill check the stats of persephone. thank you

[deft grail]

theres other dungeons? 😇

[muted bramble]

define young tho, 24 and clueless is pretty peak human performance in my humble opinion

[hardy bloom]

are we still doing maestro/vman for dungeons or is there a better class to use now

[muted bramble]

Anyways Goodnight people

[deft grail]

anything under 45 is youngest man alive

[muted bramble]

My bad uncle

[zealous niche]

First with a pre-arranged group

PUGs can waste your entries

[fast grail]

Hmm, do these also apply to obols? Didnt think it did, but FMJ seems to count obols as equipment . . .

[muted bramble]

also i can run any number of dungeon

[jagged relic]

Printer go brrrr is so broken for me, I've 79% rate to get a free recharge and for the past week I haven't gotten a single free one, its such bullshit

[hardy bloom]

^^

[fast grail]

cap is 70% btw, regardless what % talent says above that

[fast grail]

DK, bubo, ES, all them are pretty decent. I normally just stick with DK

[opaque sun]

persephone is obsolete if you have divine scarf, but until then its a big boost to skill sampling

[hardy bloom]

ooh thanks

[sharp wind]

30% must love me so much that i got only 1 print for 4 days streak

[opaque sun]

DK is the most beginner friendly in dungeons

Early to end game dungeon, DK is solid

Mages have a rough time early on when your in-dungeon stats are weak

[hardy bloom]

are there available guides for dk dungeon rng items?

[untold saffron]

Grey grumblo

And then anything you can take without breaking grey grumblo

[dapper prism]

Ffs, was redoing all my captain allocations to boats, mathing everything out as close as possible to the 100m distance. Then realized i havnt upgraded god blessings in a long time, now all my boats are 20% more distance xD

[haughty cove]

some have a build for these?

[dapper prism]

It's always the same builds for spices

[hardy bloom]

oh grey grumblo is still the best one then. thank you

[dapper prism]

Unless you get horn early on maybe? I barely ever do grumblo but really should test it out again if there's no horn

Mainly since you'd have to sacrifice so many other good things if u go grumblo

[dreamy igloo]

hmm do those big plunderous mobs count more towards portal kills or is it just regular?

[opaque sun]

early to mid, greygrumblo build is good. But late game you never bother it even if you missed foal on the first drop

[hardy bloom]

the only thing thats stopping me from playing dungeons is that im too lazy to sell items on the ground, and selling the upgrade thingies when you get the rng item that drops orbs when upgrades are sold

[dreamy igloo]

i did a multiclick macro on my mouse to help with buying stuff but going through each of the rng is time consuming still

[dapper prism]

I just hate picking up each rng item 1 by 1, tedious af

[quasi oriole]

Just got to world 5 finally can use the new upgrade stones. Now do you think I should upgrade them with primary stats or go for secondary ones? Like with barb go for STR or WIS?

[opaque sun]

Like 5 layers of those equip boosters blocking you to click the orange rng item

[dreamy igloo]

depends how is your accuracy?

[hardy bloom]

go str if you reached w5 with a lot of accuracy

[dapper prism]

Chiz or troll/magma always w5 stones

[quasi oriole]

I have 15k accuracy

[opaque sun]

Primary stats. If you feel like you need accuracy from gear, you dont

[quasi oriole]

kk

[hardy bloom]

oh yea just do shaq

[dreamy igloo]

honestly you wont be getting magma gear until further into w5 so upgrade what youre having problems in, if its damage main stat or accuracy secondary and when you get magma do primary

[wooden spire]

How do we know the current events where minibosses spawn?

[opaque sun]

Random events? You just have to stumble visiting gem shop/character selection screen when its happening

The low visibility of the random event schedule is one of the big reason people dont really bother it (and the low drop rate being the other reason)

[wind umbra]

idleon toolbox has schedule for random events

[dapper prism]

"what spawns" can be found a week ahead of time on ie/it like
https://idleontoolbox.com/account/random-events?c=squire&b=4

Where, can reload ui/screen as top said to refresh teleport. cloudsave should work too.

If you arnt linked to toolbox yet, it basically will display it like this:
https://i.imgur.com/oHhN4TN.png

and yeh, the low drop rates on stuff and DR not seeming to affect it makes it just such a rough grind

[tranquil surge]

is there any shiny pets worth breeding?

[dapper prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099088196027027606/1099088196291264623/ShinyPetEffect.png

Shiny speed first

[tranquil surge]

oh they dont actually help in arena or anything?

[dapper prism]

starsign is nice next along with some other random easy fillers

No, shiny are purely for passive buffs in ur game

[tranquil surge]

oh right

[dapper prism]

Arena and spices get really easy either way once you have snelbie

[tranquil surge]

do i need to keep them for them to be active?

[dapper prism]

You toss them into the fence yard stuff and it passively levels the bonus over time.

[tranquil surge]

say i trash it tho

do i keep the bonus

[dapper prism]

If you own a shiny and even just tossing it into the yard for a sec you have lvl 1 unlocked

yes

pets are purely there to just lvl up the buff

you arnt lvling up the pets

[tranquil surge]

aw sweet

is there a way to see the buffs ingame?

[dapper prism]

yes

in one of the tabs in breeding

[opaque sun]

Shiny pets are basically sigil that can only work on their species specific buff

[dapper prism]

Under Database then shiny

[tranquil surge]

ahh right

[dapper prism]

highly recommend using toolbox for great overview on how long stuff will take

Shows what i have in my fence, and further down shows all the info/details:
https://i.imgur.com/u4ipJfI.png

[tranquil surge]

ahh

[dapper prism]

multiple of the same = speed the time

[tranquil surge]

so if i run snelbie in arena i should get to round 50?

[dapper prism]

so sometimes e.g. in my case above, i could probably remove 2 of the first pet to make the time allign with the others

[dapper prism]

snelbie and burger with roughly 10k power (less works too, more makes it easier) will get you to 200

[tranquil surge]

dont have burger yet 😦

im only just at snelbie

dont even know which world gives burger

[dapper prism]

burger is w1

nutto

borger* the ability

[tranquil surge]

oh man thats the next one for me lol

alright will prio w1 then

[dapper prism]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[tranquil surge]

i am so far off meta for spice setups

yikes

[dapper prism]

meh, youll get that some point quickly

[wanton obsidian]

Can someone explain to me the equation for prowess effect? Ik it actually lowers the req for next ore but let's say I'm at 250 efficiency and I need 1k to reach the next tier, how much would x2 prowess affect the req for it?

[dapper prism]

Not sure what the math was behind it but as a random note, 2x is the cap afaik even though its easy to go above that.

[wanton obsidian]

Is x2 really the cap?

[dapper prism]

That's what ive been told a few times in the past

[eternal dove]

Went thru 40 fertilizers after I've had all these at t5 for days now and no t6s or new nug. Only 3 plants left for t6. Very sad

[wanton obsidian]

So if you have over x2 it's only going to count as x2?

[dapper prism]

No chemicals?

[dapper prism]

What's your cycle time at?

[eternal dove]

Any time I got a plant that wasn't one of the 3 I'd harvest and sprinkler and hope for Chem. If I got Chem I'd let it get to t4/5

[dapper prism]

Yes that's what a cap is, i've never tested it

[wanton obsidian]

Ahh kk

[eternal dove]

5.5 mins

[dapper prism]

Should only attempt ~10 t5's at once, else you just diminish any chance at more chemicals

[wanton obsidian]

Could you test it out if you're over x2?

[eternal dove]

I'm mainly just going for all t6 unlocked. Already had t6 chem

[wanton obsidian]

1 upgrade into the bubble to see if the req changes or not

[dapper prism]

at 6 min cycle thats ~300 day average for a T6 while holding on 10x T5's, so chemical+log combos are very important

Once i set it up nicely it took about 2-3 days per T6, finished them all the other day

[jagged relic]

Ah well still 70% I should be getting it very often

[eternal dove]

Yeah I was using log between my ferts and hitting shovel every fert.

And I've got almost 25% of log not going on cd

[dapper prism]

dont have the logs or atoms atm, and i'd need about 6 levels for 0.01x increase on my bubble

[wanton obsidian]

Ahh

[solid epoch]

U could try upgrading a cooking plate, I think there is a prowess one if I remember correctly

[dapper prism]

Yes there is, but im off to bed and already setup my char, also no laddles since bb has been camping the last superchows

[opaque sun]

usually you would be at the max 2x already

[bright current]

how many pages of drop filters do we get again?

[dapper prism]

3 (couldnt you have just opened it and check?)

[opaque sun]

3 in total

[bright current]

am i fuckin tweakin

i swear it was fuckin 2

[opaque sun]

just tweakin

[vagrant mountain]

pray i get this overnight

[bright current]

im prayin!

[vagrant mountain]

thank u duck

[bright current]

but evidently im tweakin

so idk if it will help

[vagrant mountain]

idk but we are both birds

[bright current]

[opaque sun]

me three

[bright current]

i wonder what colour gems will hide the monitization of these sailing islands

he monteized pets when it shouda been part of a skill that exists, and ide not be surprised if he monetized islands that shoulda been part of a skill that exists

[opaque sun]

i assume lava uses world theme color, so yellow gems

[vagrant mountain]

[opaque sun]

One bottle note currency for free per day, each island requiring few hundreds of them, spend yellow gems to buy bottle note aside from the daily freebies

Using these notes will have a chance to randomly find an island, and the island with best buff is around 0.1%

[glad crow]

so no updadte today?

[tight saddle]

https://i.imgur.com/3PGNZV5.png

[opaque sun]

In lava time, he means actually 2x more time of what he says (eg. Weekly updates are 2 weeks). So i assume its end of next month

[crisp silo]

dies lava ever update on a mon?

[tight saddle]

:o first time getting that coin after red

[opaque sun]

sometimes

Like when he did an hotfix level bug update

[tight saddle]

I mean the pet thing is just a Surprise Mechanic™

[crisp silo]

new content normally on fri i thought

[opaque sun]

remember to ask lava questions now before he adds another cash grab and goes silence for 2 weeks

[left harness]

is it recommended to upgrade all 10 armor sets from magma to the new boss set in world 5?

[opaque sun]

look at the misc stat and ask if that char needs that misc stat for the job he is doing

[crisp silo]

nah

not all

[left harness]

Who would need it then?

[opaque sun]

Magma is better overall, but divine has useful misc stat for certain jobs

[crisp silo]

the stat% from magma does help with the skilling

[left harness]

ooh

[crisp silo]

new boss armor is for respawns and active

[opaque sun]

Divine is a sidegrade, not an upgrade

[tight saddle]

We really should have set bonuses now that I think about it

[opaque sun]

Slightly weaker, but helpful misc

[crisp silo]

the chest and legs for afk fighters, helm and feet for active dr fighters

[left harness]

so get the new boss armor for active DK and ES?

[opaque sun]

Full set for archers who do afk farming

[left harness]

maybe bubo

[crisp silo]

dang archers

[left harness]

get the boss set for both my SB?

[tight saddle]

I think the pope hat might still be bis for mages

[opaque sun]

Sb doing gmush kills doesnt really need divine head and boots

But archers farming glass will be happy for a full set

[left harness]

right

[tight saddle]

That 30% crit dmg is just sooooo much bigger than 30% damage or anything else

[crisp silo]

ehhhh stats would give more than the critdmg

[opaque sun]

Not really. Crit damage is additive on top of mega crit that does 400%

For effective damage in active, magma is better

[tight saddle]

Isn't it multiplicative to %dmg though

[crisp silo]

• the stats from pope hat kinda suck

[crisp silo]

add

[tight saddle]

And you're stacking %dmg for hundreds of %'s from other sources

[opaque sun]

pope hat was okay during bubo at floms when troll was still expensive and as a poorman’s option

[tight saddle]

Well shit.

[crisp silo]

its ok

i still run pope hat

cause im poor

[opaque sun]

It also was the time back then when everyone didnt have 200% crit

[tight saddle]

Ahh well I could upgrade but lets say I'm staying with my pope hat because I want the poor experience so I don't forget my roots

[crisp silo]

my games does not like 166 enemies in worship

[opaque sun]

5x crit damage becoming 5.3x isnt that exciting now

[crisp silo]

when giga crit lava

dang my game really does not like 222 enemies

[tight saddle]

That needs to change to multiplicative

Vote for me in the next election

[opaque sun]

When he adds giga crit, pope further loses value as its just addition to crit damage

[crisp silo]

giga crit multiplies with your current cd

vote for me

[opaque sun]

And bubo doesnt care effective damage anymore. Just ES

pope hat had use back when on floms that allowed people to use jawbreaker and still one shot

[tight saddle]

Any time now... haven't made any progress in like 6 months but maybe before I turn 60

[tight saddle]

I mean crit is for noobs anyway - why kill them fast when you can make them suffer

[opaque sun]

Removing magma/divine is like 15% damage loss. Using pope hat is like 5% more active only damage (in relative to current mega crit damage multiplier)

[tight saddle]

I really dislike the %chance system with the upgrade stones

For example these new drops from the W5 boss... should just make them like 50x more rare and 100%

[opaque sun]

% to just fail is fine. But yeah hate the “uses slot even on fail”

[tight saddle]

Or that

Or have like undo-stone which costs 100 pearler shells to craft xd

[fast grail]

Slots on fail just open up to people save scumming or making 50x of the item, there is no inbetween

Just like old pickaxe misc stacking

[tight saddle]

Wait you can actually save scum those?

I'm calling the police

[worthy shoal]

Still none on my side since the arcade release

[tight saddle]

Ahh that's probably because you haven't performed the ancient viking stonewall-ritual like so https://i.imgur.com/E31eq7t.png

[worthy shoal]

Of course 😄
The arcade provided me with 12 premium upgrade stones and 1 jackpot so I think I am just a statistic nightmare

[solid haven]

out of curiosity. Do you guys actively pursuit the achievements? I personally lose interest in them after like half of 'em

[worthy shoal]

Except the minigames ones

[tight saddle]

Personally the ones that matter and if they're needed for merit

[fast grail]

Have to yes, achieves are bit multi later on

[solid haven]

So they are more of a necessity than fun sidequest?

[tight saddle]

Fun is a bit of a stretch in any case

[fast grail]

Eventually yes, but until you get to that point in gaming, they can be ignored

[viral snow]

I do them when im bored
Then after one or 2 most of them annoy me 😂

I think most of mine are skill or timegated now

[tight saddle]

In your case, you might need to take it a bit further and also consider performing the traditional Honker Nut-Stuffing Ceremony https://i.imgur.com/Iu9NH0a.png

[opaque sun]

nah people dont save scum. Its just they have a potato pc that just happen to power surge and shutdowns on a failed stone

[tight saddle]

Can't imagine what they are going through

[zealous niche]

Same for me, and so far it’s seeming like I do not have the skill.

[granite grove]

guys, how to fix idleon from crashing when i try to buy lab chips from gems? it always crash except if i got choco chip, i need that acc% for w4 pushing

[dull lance]

What is max level of cauldron bubble upgrades

[zealous niche]

None, but some have effect maximums. Check tips and tricks for the list

[pulsar cliff]

170

Oh

My bad lol

[tight saddle]

Depends what you mean

https://i.imgur.com/TMRp3dB.png

[pulsar cliff]

I just can't read.

[zealous niche]

170 for cauldron boost

[zealous niche]

Cauldron stats are above

[dull lance]

A thanks

[stiff prairie]

Mostly for extra gaming bits

[zealous niche]

Cauldron bubbles are none

[dull lance]

Thats what I meant

[zealous niche]

That’s boost levels

[tight saddle]

Wouldn't worry about those, they kind of just accumulated for me at least

[dull lance]

How many millions is that?

[tight saddle]

Meaning the meter thing

https://i.imgur.com/cd5JGA4.png

[worldly lichen]

The molten knuckles recipe shows as already looted in the suggma card, can I still drop another one then?

[tight saddle]

I think it has always shown as looted

YET HERE I AM DAY 343485 TRYING TO GET IT

[glad crow]

does anyone know what the purpose of the "blur filter" is?

[worldly lichen]

It's weird because I thought I really dropped it and redeemed it before I crafted the anvil tab 5

[vagrant mountain]

make u lag

[glad crow]

so blur on = more lag?

[vagrant mountain]

yea

[tight saddle]

on https://i.imgur.com/jgKZbxU.png

[vagrant mountain]

game changing feature

[glad crow]

i didnt think it was possible to make this game less optimised....

[granite grove]

blur filter doesnt even apply to stuff consistently

[glad crow]

i was hoping it would be the other way around....

[cinder scaffold]

Hai

[glad crow]

so make game uglier and lag more?

[tight saddle]

So basically it's a switch for if you've wondered how the world looks like with grease covered eyeglasses on

[vagrant mountain]

nearsighted pov feature

[tight saddle]

I heard it gives you 100% drop rate if you have it on

[vagrant mountain]

pray for recipe and for my es not to freeze overnight

[tight saddle]

Are you saying that adding the feature was a bit... short sighted

[vagrant mountain]

[gusty remnant]

is bubo CC effect sigil in alchemy?

[dreamy spruce]

no

[gusty remnant]

damn, its gonna long then

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah sigils take insanely long

[gusty remnant]

is worth to buy gem shop exp for sigil?

[grand karma]

its lower priority then many other upgrades

but if you want to after getting the important ones out of the way then sure

[gusty remnant]

i see, thanks!!

[opaque sun]

Been doing sigil since it was released, just reached the last sigil and golden most of the effective ones where i can call “im done making all the good ones to gold”. Basically thats how long it takes

[gusty remnant]

did you buy the sigin exp from gem shop?

[vagrant mountain]

do you have the sigil boosts from gem shop?

[zealous niche]

I started a few months after the sigil release with sigil boosts, I’m three from the end with most gold

[opaque sun]

yeah, with sigil gem upgrade from day 1 of sigil

and also prioritized the sigil speed sigil when it was available

[vagrant mountain]

[opaque sun]

that will take like maybe 2024 to reach the end as there wasnt as much sigil upgrade since then and now

[vagrant mountain]

thank you for the motivation

[opaque sun]

Mostly just sigil speed sigil and yarn artifact

[zealous niche]

That’s with ten players to sigils since release (minus ~2 months)

Four always pushing last one, four golding the good ones, two golding the lowest one

[vagrant mountain]

thats what i got going too

[tacit tulip]

the sigils never end

[random lake]

i genuinely dno how people auuto with sb, his aoe is so bad

[tacit tulip]

Levelling the talents is key

[random lake]

i guess

fairrr

im activing it anyways

[tacit tulip]

that's also the reason I suggest citringes for his talent count achievement

hitting 12 in a line is hard at wurms

but surprisingly possible at citringes

[zealous niche]

The random bomb tossing one is also pretty effective

[random lake]

yeah but issue is its random

[tacit tulip]

don't think I have that one fully levelled

need to atom the talent bubble somemore

[random lake]

talent bubble?

[random lake]

ohhh yeah, forgot about that one

[tacit tulip]

If you have the atom generation you can basically get everything maxed for all tabs

[random lake]

im just getting into atoms properly now

need to resample

too much effort lol

[tacit tulip]

I last resampled about 3 months ago so I know how you feel

[sharp wind]

Next OP companion leaked, Atom no limit per day please

[random lake]

he needs to QOL resampling lkike cmon

[tacit tulip]

for the most part I just sample lazily

eg: Everything except god shenanigans

Doot would serve me well

[random lake]

i got a free doot there last week so im happyi

[tacit tulip]

got my divine trophy on ES now, should help with my battery farming

[random lake]

i decided to be a mongrel and battery farm firsty

[jagged relic]

Finally found out why my mages done so little damage compared to the others...I didn't have this bubble unlocked until now

[random lake]

good buble

[jagged relic]

Got 50b damage just like that

[random lake]

damn

[jagged relic]

Those bubbles are the way to go for spending particles, right?

[tacit tulip]

they have quite harsh scaling unfortuantely

For a long while your atoms will simply go into things that make sampling better, or larry, or call me bob

on that note I'm outa water, back to bubo

[random lake]

wait, am i tripping, or was there an item that could switch places of characters on a roster?

like character 1 and 2

ygm?

[opaque sun]

roster change, no

Just class swap

[random lake]

damn, guess i imagines it

[quiet pewter]

you trippin dawg

[opaque sun]

Or maybe mixed up with how to utilize the super tube of lab that is also prioritized in order of roster

[random lake]

no, i probs mixed it up wit hthe premium hat switcher or something

whats a good atom gain rate? a point where boron acc matters

[quiet pewter]

atoms become relavant when you can sample a couple million copper/wood. more atoms is better beyond that

[random lake]

so like 10m?

[haughty sedge]

I mean the game was inspired by MapleStory, but it aint MS 🤔

[random lake]

MapleStory? MS?

what?

[haughty sedge]

Yeah, on one of Lavas stream he said that he got the inspiration for this game from MapleStory

[high cloud]

i unlocked mage dmg% per 250 bubble and my voidwalker damage didnt go up from it,is lava pranking me?

[worthy shoal]

It could be

[sick sentinel]

Both the orange and purple of those bubbles have that text, i think only the orange one actually works for vman and the text was forgotten about on purp

[quiet pewter]

thats strange, the rest of the game text is so accurate

[bold quiver]

is today the update???? :[

[high cloud]

is it worth bug reporting?

[sick sentinel]

🤷‍♂️

[worthy shoal]

This week

[bold quiver]

but but, it was supossed to be this month

[quiet pewter]

he spent most the day drawing a scarecrow, so i'd go with no

[high cloud]

or maybe its supposed to be the higher of orange or purple

[vagrant mountain]

imagine if lava hired a team to help with game, it might actually work

[bold quiver]

to be fair we voted for the scarecrow drawing D:

[random lake]

time to attempt the kattle

[wanton obsidian]

Tips on keeping my mman higher lvl worship than my ES?

[paper sail]

I was expecting a target dummy akin to other games, based on the way it bounces

[random lake]

dont, too much effort

[paper sail]

Honestly, don't bother. The actual gains are pathetic. Source: Someone who bothers

[bold quiver]

u get less then 1%

[wanton obsidian]

Ahh not worth the effort?

[paper sail]

Yeah. Most Worship gains are actually from Food Effect rather than efficiency anyway

[wanton obsidian]

For trapping I should keep mman higher right? Since it's easy to manipulate the xp around

[quiet pewter]

thats fighting talk /s

[bold quiver]

no way, there is no reason to debate what is true!

[quiet pewter]

yet the server found a way last time XD

[tacit tulip]

Even at the very lowest levels it's like a 15% increase to souls

[bold quiver]

i even leveled my vman to first on worship to show with pictures that u get less than 1%

[tacit tulip]

and we're talking <100k eff

[bold quiver]

yeah after e u start using soul syphon on wizard (cuz everyone has lvl for last skull) no point trying to keep maestro above by sacrificing that

BUT u should worship on him to increase worship lvl for epoch skill on vman

[tacit tulip]

The real answer if you want to keep Vman ahead is to have two ES

It becomes mmuch easier to do

[bold quiver]

this is insanely strong

[paper sail]

If you still want to do it, actual tips: Run Balance of Proficiency Prayer, max level Maestro Infusion, use Medium Resources Card Set, Acorn Hat, consider doubling Chaotic Efaunt card, skill exp star signs.

Essentially, everything +xp on Vman, everything -xp possible on ES.

Use IE to see highest XP/Charge totem. Only worship at Highest XP/Charge totem on Vman. Only worship on Lowest XP/Charge totem on ES 🤷

I just got to 1k Worship yesterday. I should see how high that put my Souls/Critters talent

[bold quiver]

1k worship? what do u mean

[paper sail]

For skill mastery

[bold quiver]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh that talent is only for vman skills ehe

[paper sail]

Uhhh

no?

[bold quiver]

i had the same misconception as ufor a long time '.'

my vman, thts 237 (my epoch skill level)

[paper sail]

is it really that shitty

man

[bold quiver]

not shitty its insanely strong still

even better cuz its only 1 character to level

[paper sail]

Does the actual buff apply account wide?

[bold quiver]

if i had to keep wasting soul on everyone it would be dogshit

[bold quiver]

ofc, its the same skill as before doesnt matter. ONly the level to boost is vman's

[paper sail]

Hrm. Okay

I guess time to slap Nature traps on him

[bold quiver]

hahaha yeah

i found this out prob 1 week ago when someone said it here

[paper sail]

Sigh

As per usual, I hate it here

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkk

i do ccd 1 time everyday now, that way i can keep leveling critters

started 4 days ago so still going

[paper sail]

I have definitely ignored trapping. Only used critter/Royal traps

[bold quiver]

your is better than mine when irealized that. I was lvl 70 lol

[paper sail]

56m per 20hr nature trap sound about right?

Only thing I can think I'm missing is the spring nametag

[thin rose]

No nametag? fraud

[paper sail]

He has his own, so it sits on someone else usually

[thin rose]

But spring pretty

[paper sail]

True

Nametag get. 56.4m -> 56.6m totally worth it

[thin rose]

But you also get +200% drip

[paper sail]

Nah. Went straight back where it belonged on the pretty BB

[thin rose]

[paper sail]

He is a beautiful baby that has almost finished his Super CHOW journey. You be nice to him

[thin rose]

Not even 10billion kills with BB? Amateur

I haven't even finished chow

[paper sail]

I just want him back in the kitchen making ladles

I went through a few days ago spent the 7k or so I had stashed

[thin rose]

I keep BB in kitchen then just candy when I have them

[paper sail]

I can't candy w5 maps 😭

[thin rose]

True

[paper sail]

I'm scared to see what the Rift looks like

I did the CHOW accidentally the day rift released, but I was already on max rift when we saw Super CHOW get released

[thin rose]

Oh no

You have to chow rift 50?

[paper sail]

Not quite that bad, only 47 lol

[thin rose]

What's your DMG?

[paper sail]

Hm

700b or so in afk setup

[thin rose]

Must be nice

[paper sail]

Though that is no chips or anything

[tacit tulip]

if you can't MK you can kinda stack all the different sources of base kills to get a surprisingly competent kill/hr

[thin rose]

Is that 700b in full dr?

[tacit tulip]

but even at 300k it's gonna take ages

[paper sail]

Not DR, just best AFK kills on his current map

[thin rose]

Scoli gonna spend a year in rift

[tacit tulip]

man I completely forgot about the -80% hp prayer

that would have helped when I mega chowed w1-4

[thin rose]

What prayer is that?

[paper sail]

Do you mean NPNG?

[tacit tulip]

meant starsign, sorry

[paper sail]

Oh

lol

It helps 🤷

[tacit tulip]

I'm still working on w5 guess I should add that lol

[paper sail]

and everything is infinite so no downsides

[tacit tulip]

was using 2% respawn instead

[bold quiver]

rookie mistake

[tacit tulip]

yay gains

[paper sail]

Hell yeah

2.7% gaaaaains

[tacit tulip]

If I properly cared I'd move back my kattle obols before picking up afk

[bold quiver]

impressive, if u use 100 candy u will save 2.7

[fallen torrent]

if my seashell i rank 21, would it be best to lvl up (1 red bit cost) this one? or the base plant gian (3 red bit cost) instead?

[tacit tulip]

but that's a lot of effort

[fallen torrent]

always wondered wich one profit the best

[paper sail]

That's true. I could slap Kruk Sparkles into Family as well

That's 18% afk

[tacit tulip]

18% extra afk% is nothing to scoff at when it comes to void hell

[paper sail]

Maybe I'll get the 5k slot unlocked before I do it lol

24% even juicier

[tacit tulip]

The real concern is rift 51 getting released before we're done

[fallen torrent]

^ ?

[tacit tulip]

the mastery skills are really nice, losing the time to mega chow vs getting the new mastery will be a tough decision

[bold quiver]

i wish we had had a real challenge on w5 boss.
Life bars mechanic, one shoting players independently of HP, dodging, killing, wow

[tacit tulip]

especially if it'll impact your account

[fallen torrent]

if my seashell i rank 21, would it be best to lvl up (1 red bit cost) this one? or the base plant gian (3 red bit cost) instead? in gaming

[bold quiver]

like efaunt battle

[tacit tulip]

there's not an easy way to tell

[pale jay]

Seashell has diminishing returns, the gain thing is always just under 7% I believe

[bold quiver]

seashell for some reason work in tiers. Every 5 levels u get a big boost

but every 1 level is dogshit

[fallen torrent]

oh okay

5 lvl of the upgrade, or the seashell rank?

[paper sail]

Efaunt is the most hated boss to farm. It was neat the first time. It is annoying as shit the thousandth time while card farming

[bold quiver]

rank

[fallen torrent]

caue its lv170 right now

poh okay

[tacit tulip]

I swear you just regularly make shit up lol

[fallen torrent]

polant base gain it is then!

[bold quiver]

thats what i get, test it

everytime my seashell ranked up color i got a big boost in bits

[fallen torrent]

always tought basic gain was better but never was sure

[tacit tulip]

seashell should jsut be rank x level

[paper sail]

I get EXACTLY rank 18 * import 150 = 2700%

Nothing fancy

[fallen torrent]

ios crystal farming any good still?

i havent heard about that in chat for a while now ;p

[tacit tulip]

yeah, it's good

[fallen torrent]

(curiosity more than actual questioning iut)

[tacit tulip]

Primarily Bubo for coin/alchemy, DK for statues

[fallen torrent]

truee

[oak tartan]

how do you guys deal with crystal mobs? My active characters keep randomly dying when crystals spawn

[bold quiver]

i didnt progress w5 when i got tow5 cuz of that

just need to get stronger (and pushing w5 wont get u stronger)

[oak tartan]

stronger in what way? more MP (for ES)? More hp? More accuracy?

[bold quiver]

if u one shot everything u wont die

more HP more defense also helps
accuracy should already be 100% lol

[oak tartan]

yes, accuracy already 100%, but not enough for 250% which is for crystal

so I guess I can improve on that

[bold quiver]

yeah

[oak tartan]

Just going to activate Balance of precision prayer 😛

[bold quiver]

could work

[tight ridge]

is there an atom collider guide

[bold quiver]

as to what should be upgraded?

[oak tartan]

And now, I'm 100% even for the crystal

[tacit tulip]

1. Print things that you can print a lot of (oak/copper)
2. upgrade stuff using atoms
3. Upgrade bubbles that help with bigger prints
4. Profit

[tight ridge]

yeah? im not sure what i should be doing but i just started making atoms

[bold quiver]

just get the good upgrades there and thats it, u cant do much once u unlock atom collider cuz your atom production probably sucks

[tacit tulip]

a lot of atoms strength comes from boron

[tight ridge]

i set it to 1050 when i unlocked the building cuz someone here told me to and just saw i made 17 atoms, do i just unlock these first two or save for one of the next ones idk what they give

[thin rose]

put it to 15mil /j

[bold quiver]

can set to whateveru want, dont have to be 1050M. I keep 1050 cuz the i always have material for upgrades on stamps etc

[tacit tulip]

The second one (helium) is good when you can afford it. Helps with your skill eff

the first one is strong but only really gets good as you levle it

[bold quiver]

if u set it lower then u wont have monster mats/skilling material etc for stamps, bubbles, etc

[worthy shoal]

The most important is the first level of the 8th

4 th is the only really useless one

[frozen prairie]

why is there a gaming AND gaming garden?

[sick sentinel]

is that the different texp popups?

[frozen prairie]

yeah

[sick sentinel]

its coming from different things, i guess to differentiate them

[tacit tulip]

which is fine but the sailing ones don't do that 😄

[frozen prairie]

gaming 2 incoming w6 skill

[tacit tulip]

I'm hoping this means we'll be able to target specific fish

[viral snow]

Its the color of gems required to fish that specific spot

[frozen prairie]

or maybe fishing xp won't be terrible

[pearl cedar]

Nothing terrible about fishing xp

[tacit tulip]

it's not the exp I'm concerned about

it's the cards

[frozen prairie]

the 346% afk gains rate for 23m as opposed to like maybe 200% for chopping/mining says otherwise

[pearl cedar]

Lol chopping is like 2b exp/hr

Just off by a factor of 100

But mining and catching is only like a factor of 20 so whatever

[random lake]

went form 5m to 121m oak sample

[zinc torrent]

That was cool.
Got jackpot and stamp in one go from pachinko machine off about 250ish balls

But my snail didnt upgrade. It stayed at 9 but still.

[solemn spire]

what do i sample with my BM?

[random lake]

monster mats tbh

[hollow trellis]

Divinity: I currently have 8000 points and need 10.000 for 25%goat all my characters have lvl 15 style. Should i level all characters first to lv 40 or first goat god with the second style?

[opaque sun]

new fish probably vial and used on those new trash island stamps i suppose

[zinc torrent]

Any idea on the eta? Last week it seemd like itll hit that weekend but that wasnt the case Especially with his little dev blogging (he hasnt done this in a long time it feels like)

[heavy moth]

should i active Bubo at crawler for keys and DN ?

[pulsar heart]

are the hyper obols worth

seem kinda crappy

[round elk]

maybe if you have bought like literally everything else

[pulsar heart]

mhm just gonna buy them for slab

[signal osprey]

All of the hyper obols are good except for the damage one

[zinc torrent]

Yeah but are thet worth?

[bold quiver]

spare gems gamble yes

[runic girder]

.

[signal osprey]

Thats really up to you

If you're missing a lot of important gem shop upgrades then they might not be imoprtant

But assuming you have most of the stuff you need then theres really no reason not to buy them

[bold quiver]

dude imagine 18 multikill per tier obol

[signal osprey]

I just want my full page of hyper dice

The beans need more statue drops

[bold quiver]

how many do u have

[signal osprey]

Only 4 dice so far

[bold quiver]

good enough. I dont understand why lava doesnt keep that as permanent purchase, so meh

[signal osprey]

But I also missed some of the hypers in the past

[bold quiver]

le me spend my gems

ive already bought the obols slots, finishing cog slogs now, no more stuff to dump gems randomly

[glad crow]

wich trap and time is best too use for exp, and wich trap and time is best for critter/shiny, when focused on trap box vacuum being the one that collects?

[bold quiver]

exp nature
critter shiny royal..
Time = do the math but iirc 20h nature 40h royal, something like that

[glad crow]

tysm

[bold quiver]

just doublecheck

[raven fog]

Guys what is harder getting the dmg for night mare kruk or getting the wing

I can easily kill him on es but not maestro

And some classes

[signal osprey]

Did you already drop the wings on ES?

[raven fog]

Yap

I got the wings on es

Third try

[bold quiver]

niceee same as me

[raven fog]

But i want the trophy

Ayyy

[signal osprey]

Try DK I guess

[raven fog]

I cant kill him woth vman

[signal osprey]

Statue makes moles not exist

[raven fog]

I can kill him with dk

[bold quiver]

u can kill, u just dont wanna waste that much time

[signal osprey]

Then do it on DK

[raven fog]

But i need to kill 10 in order yk the tadk

[bold quiver]

cuz if u play correctly moles dont heal kattle

[raven fog]

I can ?