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Prob, is that one the made by e32?
Because i cant use that Google docs am on phone and i want to know what is 90% for each bubble
Yah
Wiki is the same then wont tell you what level you need to take it to
Most stop that around 500 but 1k isnt a bad stop either
to add, most decay formula (so does most alch bubble) uses (lv / (lv + 100)) ร max value
so yeah, lv100 for 50%, lv900 for 90%, lv1900 for 95%, etx
also with larry bubbles, lv500 just so happens to be 500/600 ร 120% at 100%
theirs an alch sheet I believe in tips-n-tricks
The chart calculate that right the one in tips and tricks
Yap i need pc to edit it i think
So should i gwt all the good ones 80 than the rest than get the good ones 90% is this how yall do it
I just focus the hell out of larry first, lvl 1.1k for 110% so all other bubbles benefit from it
(while filling in some cheaper atom stuff if i ran out of atoms)
I thought that if I followed the chart, I would generate unlimited
but I'm running through my blue
I donโt have enough atoms tho
I need to resample
Just waiting to get king doot
From free rolls
gonna be waitin a while
My atoms are good enough to get clics for first 5-10
I hat re sampling honestly
So yah
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Bruv, how's the liquid over the cap?
But isnt it only x5 capacity?
i just said, cooking foods
These 2?
yup
Liquid 4 for World 6 in 2024
Watda
guys, for void walker skill upgrade Enhancement eclipse, upgrade for this skill, its also affect afk multi kill? so will it boost if we left BM in G mush?
Is liquid 4 usable?
no
Kek
only active killing
sad
put 9-10 chars on divinty alter, can leave one out to do normal things
goal is to get divinity up so you can lab + divinity
guess i have to use my lvl 1 beginner as a main for a while than...
i don't think i need a second maestro
that was a joke about people wanting two voidman.
Do we know if World 5 is gonna get a colloseum?
it give like +100% statue
I'm assuming we don't know
few billion % more cooking alone is big for vman
Anyone got a list of what/where for DK Statue (+gold food) grind?
W1 beans
W2 Sandy pots/sandcastles
W3 bloodbones
W4 idk tbh
W5 tremor
What statues was 2-3?
I canโt remember off the top of my head since I just woke up 
guess ill just do some beans for tonight, since w2/3 give a ton of obols i wanna be semi-active for frags
tyvm
catching, anvil, cauldron for w2, skill exp, %food and speed for w3
W2 anvil and catching and fishing in addition to feasty and some other w1 ones
Does w2 have fishing?
I swear my fishing was really low
Maybe I just need to grind more statues 
I think fishing statues are only from w2 catching
Let me check
Thatโs what I thought because my fishing statue sucks
Yah
No fishing
Mb
Is the highest exp for cons from call me bob?
lava changed the tables of fishing statues when he added the tutorial cap drop
it used to drop from crystals along with other w2 statues, but now it only drops from catching
Why am i not creating excess blue?
grumpy obol of the grandfrogger worth keeping ? ive got golden obol of triple sixes ect
I would not toss it due to its rarity, but i wont use it over drop rate obols
whats the point in keeping it though
for a chance lava may buff it, or makes an update that gives so much dr that money sources becomes bigger impact in relative
BIS Money % it might matter some day ๐คทโโ๏ธ
ive been putting office orders into gaming box for that afk gain % to be gaming time but does it work on all characters
Like say if lava suddenly adds like 200x dr in a single update, money obol will be worth in that slot
200x dr next update confirmed
the % on each character fore gaming time is like 10% of the 2 hrs they been afk or a 10% chance the 2hrs is given gaming progess ?
Also maybe lava does a secret recipe of combining ice knight obol with frog obol to make a super obol that has both qualities
Do you have the salt discount from merits maxed?

Iโm still yet to get any one event rare drop..
same
yep sure do
idk why its not making excess blue since u have merit, but maybe the salt guide sheet isnt that accurate
im not sure if u are doing this but i would suggest never stopping red salt progression
anyone got any tips to beat W5 boss with a vman? I cant seem to stop the heal fast enough
what % should I aim to get cookin' roadkill to?
if ur damage is low, you just gotta focus on clearing the mobs until u get big aoe. then hit boss a couple times and go back to crowd crontrol. repeat until boss is dead
takes a long time if your damage is low
I got about 30bil damage with >200% crit. The problem is hitting each mob individually haha. The stupid class got 2 abilities
yeah i would suggest turning off skill use on auto and use auto to clear the mobs
turn off auto when u are switching to other side
and then turning it back on when u get to other side
the just use skills manually when they come up
will be a grind but its doable
Auto atk and me is like water and oil. It never goes where you are clicking, and it will prio boss if u get just 1 pixel too close. I guess i'll have to wait for more damage i guess.
yeah its a bit finniky but with low damage thats all u can do :/
Im not sure but i think ppl have mentioned at around 200b damage u can just click auto and ignore clearing mobs
but i havent tested so cant be sure
What a boring designed boss really. I got >500bil dmg on my bubo but vman is vman. Guess its doable when my damage 10x. Gotta wait for 5 tril damage on bubo then. Whats the point it making it so damn boring.
yea really dissapoiting boss. just a big dps check
guys, for this rift, how to get lava skull?
never full clear all the mobs
just kill mobs and other mobs that are currently alive will get skull on head, when u kill the mob with skull on head, there is a chance that a bronze skull will appear on another mobs head
Killing mobs without a skull gets mobs with a white skuill to spawn, killing those has 50% chance to upgrade to bronze on a different mob, then silver, then gold until you get lava
and continue doing that until u get lucky and get lava
if you dont full clear its best to just auto until you see a platinum skull
im using SB, because its insant spawn
so, i just gonna kill non skull and white skull?
just auto until you see a plat skull, then focus the plat skull and above
when i saw pat skull, just kill it right away?
is there is a chance that skull will downgrade? because i saw 1 play skull and it dissapear
its only 50% chance to bounce
so just got unlucky
dont think they downgrade, just vanish
so, the goal is just kill killing but dont full clear right?
Thanks!
its gonna bounce to the nearest, or its random the whole map?
random across whole map
this is a good point to stop right?
Yup around 45% is the 90% cap
nice artifact chance to help out any future artifact addition updates
Don't give lava ideas
Lovecraftian artifacts
with extra tentacles
sends a captain on an โone way tripโ for a chance to get the The Old One tier artifacts
Every trip has a chance to curse your captain, canโt remove them anymore and give account wide debuffs
need a doot level buff behind that
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Heres a different one, didnt know command doenst have w5
does this passively replace the lab buff?
Yeah, except you need to be in the same map to level it
well. considering they are 2 different buffs, no?...
whereas with lab buff you need to be in the same world
how do you increase divinity xp gain?
More fucking sheepies! I might kill myself! Great game, 10/10
gacha moment
felt tho
finally got one i havent gotten yet.... (its just kinda useless tho)
Ram is not useless
its so-so but still third or 4th best
can someone explain why it isnt one of the worst? i really cant wrap my head around why it should be good?
It's convenient.
its super nice to have
its just convenience mostly
the only use i can see for it is for worship.... but thats the only real thing i can imagine it being useful
Or if you're spamming candies cause you'll definitely run out of deposits and lose out on your farming run. or teleport a TONNE. It's just super convenient. I love it.
I've also collected trapping on the wrong feller before and that would've been a crime without it lol
on another note, what level is your guys cooking roadkill?
I have lvl 64 sailing, so effectively it is around 180%?
104
Only 261. Just turned it into an hourly printable, so gonna be working on that for awhile.
mines 1138..... and its only 113%
It caps at 120% at level infinite
I'd probably put it to 115 and call it a day.
oh i thought the cap was 130
after unlocking eldritch, is the priority to get the fauxory tusk again?
Rage.
1609-1611 is where cookin roadkill hits 115%
rage?
artifacts give bonus instantly when unlocked?
If you aren't able to do hourly prints, lvl 350 is a good stopping point for 100% reduction
Meaning CC has a 40k CD
for my ES i want the kattlecruck shoes right?
I got my roadkill to 100%
Sory lol that
ahh fury
so no need to rush faux first huh
was thinking it might boost finding future artifacts but might be too small
Iโd still do it
I've heard it's helmet and boots for everyone except bubo (because bubo cares more amount stats)
Also you want a magma set for each kattlekruk peice you have for skilling.
The chance for it is a lot higher than later islands
The first island eldritch arenโt that rare
I gave up on that until i get more artifact chance boats lmao
thx
I'm not sure though. i'm nowhere near kattlekruk boss let alone the armor
For what it's worth, I didn't use any artifact boats to get it, just a lot of boats that could make it there in 2h. And turned off the siege breaker ability to stack chests.
I was doing it daily for 1-2 months and nothing so focusing on the other earlier islands
Well by daily like 5 claims a day or so
My sialing set-up is 1 guy focusing on upgrading currently owned relics (focusing island 2 for genie lamp, once i get it i'll probably move on)
1 guy is focused on unlocking new clouds. the rest are hunting the currently unowned relics.
Although now that i think of it, maybe i should move that 1 guy from island 2 to 1. because find chance> loot value
Is the chance for a new artifact or an ancient the same? To where you could get two ancients and have basically no chance at even one of the third.
All artifacts have an individual weighting. When you look at an island, the % chance is the combined of all 3.
Or 2 or 1.
But, per island, new artifact is easier to find than eldritch if you somehow pulled it in that order.
Okay, good to know. I got an ancient rubiks cube and thought I may have killed my chance at the artifact chance one.
Nope, all good on that front!
so far ive parked most boats on island 1 for eldritch, and parked the boats thaat could go crystal steak there. Then 3 boats onto fury for rng hoho
When I unlocked eldritch I just parked everything on fury till I got it. The chances of finding artifacts are just so low for the eldritch tier haha.
oh yea that's true, even getting ancient fury was a chore
i got frustrated today and just gambled on the gem shop thing, 25% chance
It's not terrible, and at least you are absolutely guaranteed something in return haha
Anyone know how i can get much higher damage on void? This is where im currently at. I would like to bolster it because im about to do the W5 boss.
Gear wise, magma is higher but not a dealbreaker I wouldn't say.
Are all your tools upgraded? Cards? What chips are you running on them? Golden food? Gear is really a small portion of where it'll all come from.
Luciferian skulls for everyone!
It seems this guy has too much salt, can i get some
Well im at 36b now with switching some stuff around and using like 40 x 4 hour candy to get a lot of pearls to upgrade the weapons lol.
Are you tryin to get dmg for NM Kattle?
i've been stucking at rift 31 (the skull one) so any advice to pass this ?
I would share some of my nullo, you can't have my reds.
alchemy/dishes/stamp/chip combo. Gear and talents wont give u the dmg u are imaginning
Vman is a reflection of your raw acc progression so gear/talent doesnt rly matter
Run them auto bubo/es
^
I need to redvial them re salts
Lol I haven't even budged mine past the 1m level.
Ya I just dont want to spend like 20 mins trying to finish it since i just got finished getting all the drops from him so i can finish getting the trophy
I don't think you're going to be able to cut it down as much as you'd like lol. I definitely bit the bullet and did a 15 minute fight.
oh god
fwiw, it's really worth it? Lol.
If you want a really braindead fight you're looking more at like. 180b, 200b range.
does IE or IT have a tab for super chows or naw?
IE has it under players-barb, IT under account
only seeing regular chow's on IE players
Not at my computer right now, but iirc it shows zow and chow separately, but chow is also super chow
interesting, i must be missing something. Only seeing this
yeah ie doesn't show mega chows, have to use your cards for that
IT might have it but don't really use it
IT shows it in account > appocalypses
Not the extra mobs like poop2 and acorn but has it for reg mobs
other than those two are there other hidden chows?
Rift counts for chow, think IT tracks it, but apparantly my memory is questionable ๐
1100 ish batteries t ogo
I know It's not a W5 question but It's more likely someone will know the answer here... Is there a lvl cap for the cauldron upgrades ( boost upgrades )
there used to be no limit but thanks to CC people were getting waaaay above, so lava put in a cap
was sometime during w4
hey guys, i have above 13x DR, how much time do you think itll take to get the suggmas to drop gloves? afk'd this whole past 24 hrs and nadfa
nada*
so, you're still very at the whims of rng here, even with high DR
It took me 7 weeks actively grinding wtih ES at 13DR to get it
some players get it in a few days
top 10 things i didnt want to hear
The only accurate benchmark you have is the average player will drop the recipe by the time they get 1000 royal urns
tyty
obviously spending them on the stamp makes that harder to track
but it's a good place to start
you talkin bout the funny green urns
yeah
they're a 1/50k drop compared to 1/50m for the recipe, so they're 1000x more likely to drop.
as such, on average, you'll get about 1k by the time the recipe drops
ill say i probably have gotten around 600 so far, i threw all my guys on urns because im bored asf
mmy recipe dropped at about 5k urns 
Sakori since you seem very knowledgable, is there a guide on how to pump vman?
feels bad man
real bad im sorry you had to go through that
I was just happy it dropped tbf
thats true
What do you mean by pump, getting the damage numbers up?
correct
Vman will always just kinda suck for damage. Skillage damage and getting your skill levels up is your primary source for the class itself
that should get easier if what lava is hinting at is new fish - fishing is the hardest to level atm
i hope so, fishing is the most atrocious thing ever
Obviouisly your base damage is still important
today i dont know, but when i beat kattle it was around 150B i think
If I stack everything on it mine hits 50B sheet damage, which was enough for NM kattle
but my talents werent even maxed, it was all random stuff '.' Had the 2nd anvil4 gloves (with mob respawn), not magma
mine is at 3.5b LMAO
yeah the magma gloves don't contribute much damage
you mostly want them for kattle for the faster atk speed
yeah nothing basicaly does kkkkkkkk
nah i have enough mats to send it straight to the skull ones
most of my damage prepping for NM kattle came from this bubble
vman is a reflectino of your acc progression, everything else is kinda extra
I gained like 20B damage levelling that lol
i see
good to know lol
noteed
the three base damage bubbles are all pretty good but given they add to each other, you kinda wanna go all-in with one
Green scales the best, but purple can be done with hourly prints
red is the one you mostly neglect
hm true i started hourly clicking purple a little
wym
u produce 1000M material of that bubblel in 1 hour and click bubble
for certain bubbles you can get your prints high enough where you print the full 1b per hour
rather than using your limited daily atom upgrades on it
oh thats easy why havent i thought of that
Soon :>
big boys league!
edging
obviously the hourly prints do require you to be at your pc all day
my snail rset to 15 today, sad day :[
so they're not ideal imo
at least i dont have to click properly there for a week probably
ive just been spamming highest printable resource for atoms so on daily reset i am working towards lvl 1000 for each first bubble
honestly that's fine if you wanna do that - the hourly prints thing is too sweaty for me ๐
i wouldnt spend the daily atoms on 1st bubble, its not worth
(unless u are planning on never doing hourly)
yep i also got my wisdom to 1000 with atoms, now im hourly clicking a little, mostly when i claim afk stuff from everyone
takes a few seconds
i dont, i mainly play competitive apex legends so it takes up about 6-8 hours while juggling magic the gathering as well for ranked
kkkkkkk i see
and thats after getting out of work
and getting snipped from far aaway!
between games i think about what i did wrong and talk to my team, i hyper focus on one task so trust me, ive tried but i cant
ah okay
its a blessing and a curse, especially at my job
This is what i should use atoms for?
this worth?
You use your atoms on whatever helps you best achieve what you wanna do
For a long while that's "to generate more atoms"
i would not miss not seeing him
Loot% and speed are the two good attributes so he's not bad, especially if you're newer
I try to have a mix of the two tho
34% loot is okay as a placeholder, but you will come across better ones
i have better ones
then kind of why did you ask
i just started going for double loots
and i dont really know the numbers that are good or not
Captain stats are additive
The wiki has their max stats
If you're at the point where loot% is what you care about, then highest total base% is what you're after
So that guy is basically a single trait of 34% loot
i was against using ccd on maestro for a long time! now i see that without it its impossible to push trapping and worship to new heights for epoch
still takes almost 1h per cycle, so time consuming '.'
What's your crystal rate? Takes me way longer than 1h lol
1/9
I'm at 1/10 so not heinously different.
its 1h to do that cycle with 2 times, 1 to finish to 100% and 1 to get to 79,5%
yeah same thing
where do u do that? wurms?
Aye
technicaly from 1/9 to 1/10 is a 10% dif isnt it
Yup.
i doubt it makes any actual dif tho lol
But I doubt it makes a d- yeah lol
79.5?
checkout, trapping is taking shape
Oooooooh you have rift slug?
yeah i do
That ain't bad. That's an awesome worship level.
right? took me around 10k ballons
and ccd ofc, not spaming ballons alone
i did waste 3k ballns without doing ccd early so it was a waste
I think if new fish do come out I'll seriously be looking at 100 for everyone for the sake of fishing mastery
not that I've done chopping/mining/catching yet ๐
not even chopping?
Egalitarian trap worth the pain?
1 for slab only eventually
just 1 for your BM for the extra eff/slab
but it's low prio, do skulls first
lava might eventually add in a trap type for egal at which point it might be amazing
but only get it once you've done everything you need with void
rift is gonna give me shell shock
Yeah those ones are rough
The rift tears one are golden in comparaison
and it'll become worse
i mean most of them are really easy
Theres just this one and the 180 orb one that takes time
(i mean for where im at)
5m kills with 30k kph on my highest char is pretty rough
takes at least 50h with 4 chars afk'ing there :{
Not being able to lock the BB on kitchen cause hes farming rift is frustrating too
how many ladles were you making?
not much maybe 60 ish
Same
Gotta level up some more meals to get a decent % bonus on veeman talent
just got a pearler shell from a 3 minute afk lmao
Nice
that one takes a while to scale
Yeah, i've tried it at lv100 i get to like 3-4%
the buff is 1/100 lower than the game suggests, which is why it takes a while to get going
and idk if apocalypse chow is good enough to farm
depends on how much kph you get
Could prob do it on some blunder hills mobs pretty fast but the bonus seems looow
chows won't do much if your cooking eff stamp is low
gotta have a decent base to multiply off
not much left to super chow now
https://i.imgur.com/bkVlAQ6.png
2fps great experience 
poor doot being nuked
https://i.imgur.com/AJyUUsm.png
idek how i got so far with that comp
Japans ptsd might trigger
Game is more like 2 frames per minute now
I went afk overnight at wave 190 and was 215 10 hours later...
25 rounds took 10 hours xD
Rift 44 is brutal. 88bil damage and i barely make 30 portal
I would need to reach 125 for any benefit
but I would rather do that another time with another comp
Anyone got that site on hand to view the jewel/chip rotations ?
the chip doc is in w3 chat pins
Thanks alot
roll low until you either get it or get 100% is the usual play
yep

is this new?
wth
It was added with w5 tasks
pain :<
Hi . Sorry if it's a stupid question. if you have 10 characters in divinity with mantra style how much exp per h is that
10, for each player, before multipliers
@tacit tulip thank you
worth noting that "double exp" procs don't share
so it's often worth using the ones that give more base
are there rlly 35 lab thingies?
32 currently, which means we're due to get more eventually
awww okay thanks
It'll either be more nodes or more gems
likewise we're missing 1 spice, and 3 meals in w4
oooooh
there's space on the table/board for 3 meals
ah
cape number 3 ๐
Nice
ES better than DK for stuff like batteries right? how much better is it?
considerably
Meanwhile me, with zero capes
Bubo: Total number of kills -> Total number of cystal mobs -> Money gain, also alchemy
ES: Portal kills (do not spawn crystals, though do spawn more mobs), buff only applies to mobs -> Mob drops
DK: Orb multiplier (so 100 is 2x drop rate) -> Crystals drop loads -> Crystal drops, also construction
thank you
there's an exception to the "mob drops" in wurms - high hp and probably the best map for DK in the game means he wins out there
is it bc itโs hard for ES to get high wormhole kills?
basically yeah
you can also get 800-900 orb on DK there
which is very good for his drop rate
in theory when w6 comes out damage will scale high enough where ES will be the best again
I havenโt gotten to wurms yet, thatโs wild. thanks for the help
but then we'll probably see the same issue on a w6 mob
Does crit dmg affect afk gains?
nope
hUh?
guys im dooted now
Grats
must this be consumed whenever it procs or i can save it ? the 95% off
I ended up hitting the guarantee doot but cheez that was expensive
the 95% stack but when ever you lvl up it is used aswell at Hydrogen bonus
oh, does that mean the next stamp i level will use it up, so i cant upgrade anything without bypassing it and saving it
corrrect unless you just lvl up with coins when you get to the upgrade stage that needs mats it will be used up
ah got it , ty bro!

is gmush the best map for all of that?
it's mostly for "any" map. IF you wany money, you'll be going to wurms as it's the highest money map
the DK/ES split is based on mobs. Need batteries? Probably tvs
which map is wurms?
last w5 map
ah haven't got there yet
chances are last w6 map will be highest coin when w6 comes out, too
probaly need 100mil portals kills when it comes out lol
probably
and some people will get there in a week...
some people will get there first day lol
the more gains we get now the easier it'll be haha
play now, make W6 obsolete
always happens tho push through the world to the end and then go back and get stuff you need, it was nice in w3 I stayed until I got my cards gold and then moved to the next portal
had all the mats needed to upgrade by the end of it
what abilities does this upgrade for other classes? Is it random? seems kind of useless..
Chow, hands, and the knight skill are great
Ooo whats the bonus for knightly discple I havent gotten that far?
you can click any of those talents on the other characters to see how it specifically upgrades it
Just +20 sconds to it
its so freaking annoying that I cant have 2 seperate books for the vman points when doing the speedrtun
wdym
I mean like skill point trees
you just speedrun for 4-5 days until you wall out then respec
though, Vman is terrible at killing now so you don't even really need a "normal" set for him anymore
Why do you think you can't?
I feel like I should jsut get him up to lvl 300 and have one book for everything
but I'm not even close to popping off with xp for all my characters
just use 2nd preset?
oh youre talking about Presets
yeah the points for vman that you get on the speedrun dont save for the other presets
I'm confused as to what you are confused about lol
they do
me too
They do
you just need to spend 1 point in top left skill
thats the skill that grants the rest
You just need to put 1 point into the Speedrun talent
oops I'm dumb
how to get third bubble slot?
jeez
pet arena
pet arena 100
or sheepie pet

Bribe or Pet arena, whichever you're missing
Sheepie is like diet doot
thanks
also do i get a divinity point per every full hour or is it cycled and picks back up the time?
farm eggs at w4 cllo with dk helps alot for eggs and ladles
if I already upgraded dungeon weapons a bunch, can I still get these for slab?
i have afked in pincemen for 40 hours and still no recipe
no candies?
Isnt it only 1in 1m?
its just it takes a long time to farm for better pet breeding chance to progress.. and I have more important things to do than to farm for splice
multikill doesnt affect it
i'am not even that high ngl i just reached W5
Oww thats why
i got 1 char nearly lvl 200 and everything else under 100
U got full obol?
not yet
fair when you hit a wall on progress give breeding a go helped me out
Better fill those things first i guess, thatโll help a lot
i mean how do you define full? i got everything slotted yes, do i got it with something specific? no
ES pop > DK dice
With drop rate obol
i feel like i should first push all my chars to like 150 so they're usable shouldn't i?
you know, after i finished the initial divinity grind
ah
that 10th char is currently grinding to even gain elite class
i can do ti afterwards
i want my second ES to be ES so i can take my first ES to grind stuff
and i still don't quite understand how to play DK to properly function but than on the otherhand both of my DKs are lvl 85
Why not 8 char div 2nd ES afk off gain lv 1st ES go farm pop
cause of the divinity EXP gain, i though rushing lvl 15 is important i heard
is there a max on td waves?
max based on time limit
afaik softcapped by time
once you go over 2 hrs something like the waves dont stop spawning at boss rounds
!breedingchart
so you cant kill quick enough to get max round score
is there a team setup chart or smth?
cant you just kill quicker?
whne td mobs have millions and billions of health no
ah yeah that does sound rough
Is there obol sheet or obol calculator for max obols?
^this
wdym?
just pop obols for circles and dice for rest
chart with what max stats are on each obol
For re rolling the stats
its +1 of natural drop, at least for drop rate
what wave is that ?
and how much needed to get there?
its 2 hours
so how high you can get in that time
does the game just end in 2 hours?
ah i c
these are one of the endgame players max waves
so they spawn even though its a max wsave
I really need to give w5 another go some time
so i dont know exactly
50 isn't great lol
would the firstg one be the most xp efficenct since ikts the highest in waves
i was stuck at 50 for a long time too cause of the instakill stuff
my last run was using void as my frontline, it got stunned, so I died at 59
you can check IE for your own personal best exp totem, later ones are usually best
if I put void second it should be fine
finally made the staff lol
How much DR pop obols gives at silver and copper at max?
1 more than they drop at when bronze, you just need to reroll 1 of em
3% bronze, 4% silver when rerolled
So no need to reroll at silver, gold, etc?
just the left pop obol needs to be rerolled in the combine section
keep pop at silver
and dont do gold pops, they become square and are worse than dice
circ do you ever get tired of answering questions lol
i dont answer some questions lol
Okay thanks guys 
but yeah when upgrading dice you can reroll a single obol and take it all the way to highest color
always see you pop in out of nowhere lol
whenever im watching some show or vid i keep discord open on my other monitor hehe
same i got idleon open on one monitor and discord on the other
same
Like for example my dice obols at max stats do i need to reroll them again when i upgrade them?
as long as you put the rerolled one into the left slot you dont need to reroll afterwards
Oh okaay got it 
contemplating getting a third monitor for more shenanigan's lol
Is there a trick to getting lucky lads or is it just super luck
kill a lot of mobs
as you get better drop rate and higher afk gains it gets easier
Does multi kill help at all?
no
gunna have to filter them soon after that scarf is unlocked
Craziness to me. Iโm 450 playing for a year and still no lad lol
Does DR affect how many of an item drops at one time or how often it drops?
do you active?
I got a couple frisbees at once
All the time with DK and ES
Wild should start getting them soon
it affects if it its the first item on the droptable
So frisbees are affected by it
Roger I gotcha
im guessing your DR is low, i had to chuck out several that were clogging up my inventory
Ah so it would be both if its first
I meant multikill, read your question wrong
no, multikill affects the amout of the first item, dr always affects frequency
Combat = C.Amarok
Skilling = Amarok OR Chaotic Troll, really just depends on your card levels.
Combat if you're active is different than combat if you're AFK obviously.
Second soul done!
Grats!
Thank you! Gonna be much slower going now lol
does anyone know why isnt that 113 bubble the only one being targed by atom collider?
best place to use time candies for cloudsound followers
what damage did u guys have on vman for cattle? hes the only char i got left to do now but his dmg suckssssss ๐
No idea, I started looking at my own bubbles to see if I could figure it out but nothing I can see. =/ Sorry.
I did around 70b. Some people do it around 25b
yeah its weird, I managed to target the yellow nblb and multikill perfectly but no idea why isnt orange that way
25b might be achieveable in few days, u just manually punch the healers whenever the room clear is on cd? 
maybe its choosing between the lowest 3 ?
Is there only one bubble from atom? I can't remember.
Because if there's 3 that would make sense.
maybe the icon is just missing and its a visual bug?
no, because i get level ups on bubbles that isnt the lowest there '.;'
still doesnt make sense
So what I think it is is, the top row is your ' Guaranteed, this shit is getting upgraded '.
The bottom row are all your % Chance of being upgraded.
There's 3 bubbles there because let's say, all upgrades are going to hit Power cauldron.
15% chance to hit the first. It won't ever level up the same bubble twice per day. So then it grabs the NEXT lowest and then the NEXT lowest after that.
hmmm
I might not be explaining it well, sorry. It makes crystal clear sense in my head lol.
yeah u inderstood what u meant, it makes sense
its kinda weird that it works like that, but it explains it
It explains it. Might NOT be right lol, but it would explain it.
yeah i thought it might be something like that, but that also goes agains the logic of NBLB of upgrading the lowest
It fits all the data I have, anyways.
its incorrect information
Yeah, I think it takes a snap shot and upgrades the lowest levels, without recalculating after each level up.
because if it can upgrade the lowest, i shouldnt get upgrades on bubbles at lvl 120- 130 (but i keep getting upgrade on those) when there are still bubbles at 108-109
yeah
If it's anything other than that - NO CLUE.
yeah
Your 16-25 bubble levels will never be consistent from one cauldron to the next because nblb check each cauldron individually
rly ? my cauldrons were even for a long time while nblb was leveling those +15 bubbles
all 4 cauldrons
They can be consistent but its not a guarantee
it almost felt like it would purposefuly hit each couldron the same time
Its rng
hmmm
The way nblb works is that it compiles a list of eligible bubbles and then upgrades the lowest from that list
my purple is +10 levels above the rest from nblb
The first check is to add all 1-15 bubbles that are level 5+ to the list
After that it does a 15% chance roll per cauldron for bubbles 16-25
So if power cauldron hits the 15% then its bubbles are eligible
If the other 3 all fail then they won't be
So it can only hit a 16-25 in power cauldron even if other cauldrons are lower level
And that check is rerolled for each nblb proc
Whats the best ring for maestro (sample)? the one with 6% all stat? or 6% damage
hmm why would it level a bubble at lvl 118 from 16-25 bubble when my power had a lvl 113 bubble fro 16-25 that is lower than that one?
wil it try to level up each bubble no matter the level?
Honestly not sure. That one does seem weird because it doesn't normally work that way
could be either opals or stopwatches for the afk gain. depends on hitting new multikill tiers or not
I was always under the impression a bubble levels up within its colour.
If a purple bubble hits the 16-25 it'll update that, but not consider the red one
exactly. Thats what i was thinking was weird, cuz i managed to make nblb proc always on diamond chef and then multikill one, but for power cauldron i cant make it target the second to last '.'
Yeah I would assume that's a bug of some sort
oh well in the end as long as i keep that one lowest level it will get hit eventualy
bubbles calculate right to left so maybe that's part of it, too
probably ,-4 more procs and it reaches atom range
If only the purple cauldron hits the 15% then yes but its possible that purple and red both hit the roll then it takes the lowest bubble between the two
#endgame-gen-chat message
theo did a write up on the atom nblb when it came out, dont know if it answers any of yalls questions tho
my arctis second link isn't working, does anyone knows why that could be?
it says No Access for me, how do I gain access to that channel?
i tried refreshing the map but it didn't work
go to #๐read-me and react with peanut
Thanks
u sure thats the correct char?
and arctis is linked to the current talent preset you are on?
yes
idk then
before this i was double linked to arctis accidentally tho
Whats the best character to use to farm for 1/50M reciped in suggmas
ES
this is gonna be a longshot here but what's your second ES's divinity level? Doot only works on having 2+ divinity on the character, I wonder if the ES skill relies on it too
it shouldn't do, but still
even past 100% afk gains are there scenario that active is better like bubo , es and dk abilities to respawn mobs?
Pretty sure doot is div lvl 2 only because it proc'ed before ppl even got to w5 otherwise
active is pretty much always better for those chars
and for others that dont have respawn, you still get crystal mobs. other than some extra exp its not rly worth playing the others actively rly
alr thanks
its higher, he's been praying since he was born
he's a monk
Free companion of today let's goooo
rift slug is a huge win ,gz
Cranium cooking soon??
damn good roll
Now I only need doot
can smeoone explain poolytheism does?
doess it let you get a 2nd link for only wizard?
yes
Hey guys, I'm about 5 islands deep in sailing, and I'm still missing the last artifact from each island. Is the chance to find incredibly rare? Or do I need to unlock it somehow?
im not getting the total damage, is it no minor link bonus?
for noobisect*
should give minor link too
I think they're all equally likely (per island)
ahh, it doess but it takes like 15 seconds its very delayed
Weird... Lol. Missing all but 1 on all 5
Sorry, Missing 1 from all*
probably just coincidence
also what is "god rank"
is that after you get all 10?
or is that their level from upgrading their respective minor
After you get all 10
Do you guys think if I told Lava that I would pay money to see Sailing moved to Codex, he'd do it?
after gach yea
Could probably convince him to add it as an unlock through an achievement
Cause going to W5 everytime a character gets sailing afk or breeding afk is so time consuming 
damn my eldritch luck is turning
I got 5 eldritchs in one week
holy
last artifact left to get in general now and then I am done
GZ!!!
ty!
then you can just sail for those alchemy bubbles ๐
or prepare for maybe another round of sailing who knows (like maybe new islands some day probably not but yeah)
Gratz only miaaing lantern then you done
Is there any form of auto loot you can get without paying money? Im trying to keep my account free to play
maybe 3 more artifacts could fit on that platform lol
i like the diea of infinite artifact... where you can keep increasing the prestige level of it endlessly ๐
In theory you could make a script to do it from outside of idleon but that's probably touching on the borders of "modifying the game"
that is completely in that area
There's a egg the house monster drops that says something about it but I can't find how to make it do anything
yes, you need to go AFK
Still need to collect the loot manually tho
even with autoloot you still need to click it ๐ฆ
I don't hate the idea of spending 5$ on auto loot I suppose. It's not a bad deal I just have bad habits with money on games lol
Pushing level 200 bb with this and at citringes
5$ for autoloot is gateway to whaling. Why stop at 5$ if you're willing to pay for ingame advantage at all?
yes
exactly, the next thing you know you'll have king doot
Absolutely.
You've now added your creditcard to your current gaming method, so you're more likely to spend more money because the card is already there.
Or the next thing you know you've gambled away couple hundreds of bucks and still don't have doot
i actually get a dopamine rush from typing in my cc details.
True story actually. Played Rotmg for a month. Ended up spending 200$ on the pet mechanics. x.x
Oh god. rotmg
Also Gems of war for those who are into match 3 + combat games
that's alright, just keep the entertainment spending in your means of living...
That was a few years ago but still. Didn't even think twice about dropping the cash until i realized I was half way to my goal and short 200 bucks lol
Gl with that haha hope you ll be luckier than i was
but yes you should buy auto-loot
Good afternoon, After which lab level, should I use "image"
I just entered the W5 2 days ago, but im not really able to do W5 easily, yet
the usual play is to link whoever you need to arctis to light up your lab and stay on div until you get goat
then return to lab to get both gains
Ohhh, because right now I have 9 Chars on divinity, just unlocking it, and was planning to link all but 2, to the bear
is the goat, divinity + lab ?
yeah goat makes it so that if ur chars are in lab they get divinity progress too
cant believe i been sleeping on upgrading turrets for so long
Caved and bought it and the games running a lot smoother. X3
This is my sailing progress but upgrades for ships come very slow, even after checking every two hours there's maybe one upgrade per ship I can do per day. Is there any way to speed things up or is there something very obvious/ big that I might be forgetting about?
Thanks for the help, it is much appreciated,
also, is there Music on W5 ? the non music is killing me
how does this BB bug i keep hearing about work? i have my 2nd char as a BB and also my 9th char as a BB but ive been focusing on zow/chow on the 9th slot BB. does it not count it?
Get some better captains, get the divinity bonuses if you havenโt already, get the msa sailing, get the sailing spd bubble
It only counts the 2nd one so youโre fine
ok cool thanks
How does the Causticolumn artifact work?
Usually people dump most of their gold into their first ship's speed. You've been wasting it upgrading first 4's stuff amount.
Use all your gold to make 1st ship as fast as possible to unlock the rest of the islands much faster
how many kph shouldi have b4 farming gmush kills for increasing cash gains
So generally, these are the gods to use and the reasonings:
Snake god: for +30% afk gains, useful just before a reset to get larger samples. Not really a permanent god.
Bear: keeps your character in lab, so they always have x2 prints, and you keep all your lab nodes
Nobiset: good for extra damage and extra kills for portal pushing. Good on characters that need to push further in worlds. Great on BB if you're farming 100k/1mil/100m for each respective chow type (damage/cooking eff/x1.1 cooking)
Bunny/hare god (depending on who you ask). x3 prints. Mostly used with ES's secondary link (polytheism). Combos with lab bonus for x6. (ES connected to bear/bunny get x6, a character connected to bunny, while in lab gets x6).
Goat: You gain divinity while also in lab. Useful if you need both.
Omni/elephant god: The best god to put lab sitters on, unless you need to level divnity too. You get a random proc of sailing, gaming, refinery, breeding,cooking or printing.
Purrmep: stick your most useless character on this (Beastmaster), then stick BM into lab. Double your divinity exp/points, but sacrifices a character. Turns up to 10 characters divinity-ing into "18 characters worth" of divinity-ing.
Flutterbis: Leveling any skill over 50 gives a pearl which increases exp of something under 50 by 40%. also gives up to +150% skill exp. Good option for vman skill leveling.
Last 2 gods have no major effect or minor link effect yet.
Also, get everything if you have doot. Not at all broken.
x6 prints, full lab. omni procs. +30% afk gains
I thnk griffybit the streamer said with 4m kph you can start to use candies/just farm it out
Why does the Casticolumn artifact not work for me?
on es?
or would active es need alot less
on any character you reach that kph on
but I think SB is the one who gets highest in kph or ppl mostly doing it on SB
Sb for forge
@warm beacon , @next locust Thanks! ๐
kph afk gains affect forge?
Sorry, what does Doot, mean ?
Yeh sb is also very easy to get high kph due to damage speed scaling
KPH on archer is active and afk.
when you go for afk gains part its 4m kph at least about active idk
oo thats alot op lol
I think active gives less especially when you have a few houndred% afk gain
So playing Sb actively means u get extra forge seconds. using candies also gives you extra forge seconds
Two Questions:
For gaming- feel like I'm stagnating- is there a reccomended priority guide to upgrades or something?
For Sailing: Is it just going to be painful to get all the artifacts? It seems like there's no real way to externally increase my odds- only in sailing artifacts
even with es though?
The final boss final companion. it activates all the gods at the same time.
With the way the coins are worded for the seige breaker class I thought it gave you auto loot rather than ONLY the card auto loots.
So with doot, you have bear god always active. (always in lab).
And you have bunny god always active (so always x3 prints).
And omni is always active, so omni procs on everyone.
you forgot all the minor bonuses too
Why make a choice on the god, when you can spend $500 for doot and have them all
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, Thanks, the help it is much appreciated, I am slowly grinding my way to there, but as they can repeat, no clue When can I get Doot lol
This is on top of the everything else
I didn't forget, i just didn't want to cry internally any more T.T
You can get doot when you have couple of hundreds of dollars to spend. It's p2w mechanic, with abysmally low chance to get f2p
understandable tbh
For free, never. Pity doot is 4 years. But you need to spend green gems to get your garunteed pity doot. Because apparently we might want to trade doot.
I have probably gotten..... 24ร10
About 240 minimum free hours of progress thanks to king doot daily.
The chance to get equal AFK bonus time to world 4 and 5 skills is I N S A N E.
I only have omni on 4 characters and it's already busted
anyone got a guide for frosty firefight 120+
Or you could just not support the absolute worst update in the games history
Yes I know I still support it by not dropping the game like hot garbage IDK
Just get free doot
then 4 years it will be lol, Thanks for the help! I am still trying my best to understand how W5 and some stuff of W4 works, it was not that easy
I thought it waspurely a cosmetic thing at first and was really excited about it. I am only missing 4 of the pets currently, but even with king doot my little bean guy is my companion of choice
my current ones are: and Im taking the volcanoe, with me
Pets aren't by definition the worst, it's the gacha
Two Questions:
For gaming- feel like I'm stagnating- is there a reccomended priority guide to upgrades or something?
For Sailing: Is it just going to be painful to get all the artifacts? It seems like there's no real way to externally increase my odds- only in sailing artifacts
Noted, thank you
gzzzzzzzzzzzzz
i think i have to level call me bob bubble to 2000, its not cutting out at 1k to level up from 550+
Guys can someone please help me on something i'm getting crazy my deathnote just got +2M kills on EVERY mob for no reason
im so confused
its from vman speedrun
vman speedrun
How i got 2M kills on w5 mobs when my vman didnt even go there though
ye little odd at first
well thanks for the answer lol
sailing - mostly painful, good captains can help speed it up as well as logging every 2h,
gaming - you will progress slow until snail, then it will ramp up. try to get as many artifacts and achievements as you can for the little boosts, itโll add up
Gotcha. I guess I need to save for the snail- that's going to be a while.
until then, its a painful and slow process, get dk talent to max aswell if you didnt yet
Mhm
ofc, having luck with a nugget helps it a lot + the chemical plant does wonders
thats about all i think
there is a slight boost with kitchen and alchemy but thats it
Are you guys ready to pull for Islands, $2.50 each?
Yup can't wait!
Doot island. inhabited by queen doot. give her a doot to access
Yeah they're just rough in contrast to all the others.
BB at least has crazy afk results
even vman was more chill like my vman took about 10h to lvl up to lvl 425
Compared to BM
BM is really good with the new Keychains
I have the new key chains on him
and 2 mob respawn chips
and still really slow xD
1 in 36 chance for crystal mob
Trying to get to a 5k total account level so I can put on my last Kattle obol.
any downtime on mob respawns?
yeah the 5k account lvl will take some time for me
sometimes just 2 seconds or so
but overall no
like it has always something to kill
My bubo lags to cast it lol like 2s
Holy pearls is what im starting to grab from killroy to help bb and bm level for now
10 for a level aint so bad
How many chances the new update heavy p2w?
50/50
whats the chance that the update is out tommorow?
At least 11 chances out of 10.
either happens or it doesn't
hopefully the full late game of this game lets you have โendlessโ characters
Guys m pack front bumper or doot
like every 1000 total lvl gives another one and so onโฆ
it should come out tomorrow on monday since its the last day of the month and he said it comes end of month but it could happen that he needs one more day but I think he is close to finish so it should come out tomorrow
Or x1.5 the previous level requirement
but that would already give engamers like 5 new guys, wich quicly turns into 7
again that would give even lategame 3 new ones, and thats too many too qickly
Updates usually come out on the weekend but nothing to stop him releasing it otherwise. Might be a metrics thing (more on steam on the weekends -> More visibility of update -> More new players)
Double then. so 2k for 11th. 4k for 12th. 8k for 13th
Pretty sure nobody has reached 8k account level yet. so only the true endgamers will ever get to their 13th char.
also then he has too think about if any store ever has a sale going on, because then he has too delay it for that
that would prob be good yeah
So requirement scales hard.
12th would be very easy to get and then 13th basicly impossible
nah quarter it and make it faster and faster. 1200, 1300, 1350 1375 1387 1392 1395 and so on ๐
yeah sure but he posted 3 days ago he is at 3 of 6 islands finished so half of it was done and he was already working on that update before releasing the little one with ne atom etc so it could take him until tomorrow or depends on how far he is rn even longer
13th would be possible by endgamers. Because you gain +1k levels from the 11th and 12th combined
2 characters that have the potential to be lvl 500+
but that would still be 700 levels on every charascter.....
thats not rewally possible
its not about making it impossible its about keeping it going forever linearly essentially
like average level on the 12 guys would be 666,66
should be like average lvl 500 in the current state of the game. but maybe in w8 lvl 1k is possible
also 
I was talking about account level 8k, that would be 666,66 levels on 12 characters
ofc ofc, i'm just talking in general about the scaling
oh gotcha
it's fine if endgamers get like 3-5 new characters right off rip... i mean they are way ahead ๐
if the xp increase from w4 to w5 is the standard, then w8 is prob gonna be 1k yeah
i think the exp curve is more to lvl 450-475, 500 on all characters is a long grind
Can you reroll +1 skilling power on a skilling obol?
you dont need 55 on every character.... just 495 and then let bubo do the rest
nah there are easier ways
im surprised that not many people with GT 10k leveled to 5000 familiy lvl already, kinda weird
on gold and above yes
start saving up the pearls for w8 ๐
its a waste in the end but still
Ah so rerolling at bronze is useless
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isnt zelb at 20k + on gt already he must be close to 5k family
lol so little
whats your alchemy lvl?
im sry, not gold but shape
my gt is 2k and my bubo isnt even 475
Just got it yesterday
Ty, haven't seen that table before
im only at 118 lol...
ohh sweet gratz ๐ฎ
well i am also doing a top secret strategy called "SKILL ISSUE" so thats why
kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
177T .......
Thanks. It was worth it
so far awaay
like look at this
yeaa probably even more with the new obol for sampling
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