lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dapper prism]

Active BB

Anyways, good night!

[potent maple]

dude, doot, we've been buddies for at least 17 mins and you're talkin about me like i'm not here? D:

[vagrant mountain]

gn trickz

[vagrant mountain]

theyre jokes

[potent maple]

ik, i am joking back i assure you 😄

[vagrant mountain]

[potent maple]

not that i can be trusted, i've played since w3 and my max nug is < 10k and i do not have chem plant or even a vman speedrun, so what do i know lol 🙂

[unkempt quest]

playing since w3 and no vman speedrun? how

[glad crow]

Do vman speed run atleast once

Just so you can max the most important skills

[potent maple]

i think i've discovered the issue, my meals are so underleveld that even withOUT BB talent, it's so cheap to upgrade

[glad crow]

Like critter&soul, damage, multikill, cooking speed

[potent maple]

remember i'm catching up after a few months of playing 10 mins 2x per week, i'm doing well at catching up just gotta do one thing at a time lolz 😄

[potent maple]

notice i do not have ladle upgrade checked in that screenshot

things got fast, damn!!!

[glad crow]

Yep... my advice would be to spent some time getting your total meal level as high as possible, it's gonna take some time but will be worth it

[potent maple]

so yeah i did use ladles on vman instead of BB, but clearly that's not my main problem and i didn't waste too much doing so

[nocturne peak]

Whats the base max meal level?

[potent maple]

i coulda sworn i did that like 3 times in the last 2 weeks, but clearly its time to do it again!

[glad crow]

30 I think

But not sure

[potent maple]

30 is original max yeah

[nocturne peak]

Oh, 30 is so little with the vman talent

[potent maple]

its hard to hit until suddenly its easy to hit

[glad crow]

Ye... the way I do is have IT open and then split stack so that I'm filling up my inventory with the right amount of ladle for every meal, and then just level them all up

[nocturne peak]

Got ancient fury relic, and got a level 187 food talent on vman, decided to do some cooking, got 6 levels in almost all meals

[potent maple]

totally! but then i get impatient and just go like "eff it, everyone gets 50 ladles instead of 6" or something and move on from there

[nocturne peak]

And thats cause i only had 100 laddles

[potent maple]

kinda the same in the end but yeah i do that

[glad crow]

Is there an easy way to check total meal level when not at pc?

[potent maple]

not that i know of 😦

[glad crow]

I have access to it and ie tho

[unkempt quest]

vman talent tells you

[potent maple]

well then it and ie and in game

[unkempt quest]

in the tooltip

[glad crow]

But I can't see that away from pc...

[barren otter]

just add all 57 of your meal levels on ie mobile

[potent maple]

hrm i looked and dont see where else to see meal level that would help you on your inferior hand-sized device

i did try for you, they say i'm quite the humanitarian

[glad crow]

Just gotta wait until home then

[glad crow]

Agree, actually that's what I have been saying out in the town, whenever anyone ask about you (which happens more often than you would think)

[potent maple]

aww, they ask about me? blush

[zinc pilot]

[potent maple]

oof

so close?

[zinc pilot]

it doesn't work

[cinder scaffold]

Hi! I’m new here

[wanton obsidian]

Does prayer buffs and debuffs affect divinity

[dreamy spruce]

hi

[cinder scaffold]

🙂

[opaque sun]

Nope

[zinc pilot]

good morning

[dreamy spruce]

Doesnt buff it but afk cap still affects div right?

[wanton obsidian]

Really the wording here says all skills tho

[cinder scaffold]

K just wanna say that I can’t view guides on iOS ipad

Now I’m leaving

[opaque sun]

Only thing that may affect divinity is the unending energy that caps afk to 10hr

[sharp igloo]

No

[zinc pilot]

damn

[opaque sun]

many of “all skills” mean w1-w3 skills + cooking

[vagrant mountain]

[opaque sun]

And divinity doesnt have afk gain nor efficiency

And their exp are technically not a “skill exp” like how construction and lab exp arent technically “skill exp”

[sharp igloo]

How much def do you need for crystals at wurms?

(On a mage)

[glad crow]

Torql meal level is 2703....

[opaque sun]

depends on your HP, but maybe like 3000+ to be comfortable not to die

[glad crow]

I can't even remember why I was trying to figure this out

[vagrant mountain]

lmao

[sharp igloo]

I have like 4700 on my bubo and he still gets 1 shot if he happens to run into a cryatal

[dreamy merlin]

Vman

[glad crow]

But makes also have ways too not take damage

[opaque sun]

Then maybe you need to invest a bit in HP talents

[vagrant mountain]

crystals do 9k dmg to me

[vagrant mountain]

honestly if you just put points into HP crate, would probably be enough to survive

[sharp igloo]

Yeah I dont think my bubo has anything in the hp po box lol

[glad crow]

I got almost 8k defence on bubo

[vagrant mountain]

realistically you only need to survive a single crystal hit

[glad crow]

How does your po box progress look?

[vagrant mountain]

my hp bar dips hard but instantly refilled when i get hit by crystal

[sharp igloo]

Lemme check 1 sec

[glad crow]

Also, eww dmg 🤢

[glad crow]

How many pens?

[sharp igloo]

Like 25 rn

[glad crow]

You don't use bubo much, huh 😆

[sharp igloo]

I almost never active at all, Im like 95% mobile

I played active one night on my ES and was flabbergasted at how much money I got lol

[glad crow]

Yeah it's insane

[vagrant mountain]

i got 1200 active hrs in 2 months on my steam lol

[glad crow]

But if you ever get the chance, then you should active too get some pens, and then max every box, except the 10k one ofc, because then you would never have too think about boxes again

[sharp igloo]

Yeah I see how people have such high alchemy now. If I active bubod all day I could get hella grind time levels

[glad crow]

Damn I'm bad... I have played for a year and only got 5k on steam

[vagrant mountain]

i mean 1200 hrs is like 50 days in 2 months lol...

game is almost always running 😆

just need badly to increase my liquid caps ugh

[pulsar cliff]

You will always feel that way. Never enough lol.

[vagrant mountain]

[pulsar cliff]

Never enough.

[sharp igloo]

Dont need to increase it, just use your liquid from the quick-ref screen as youre doing CC

[vagrant mountain]

it only takes me like 1-2 hrs to cap is the problem

[potent maple]

sometimes it's worth a break on pushing to go back and get like 50 lvls quick for the talents like HP if you're lookin for that

[sharp igloo]

Then turn on the liquid cap lab thing

[barren otter]

lmfao you actually did add them up

[vagrant mountain]

its on... 😆

[sharp igloo]

I usually just open my quick ref alchemy tab while im doing CC and use the liquid as it comes. Dont let it fill up all the way

[vagrant mountain]

wish this didnt cost leather hides

[pulsar cliff]

ou could've just gone to maestro lol

[vagrant mountain]

i like to leave my bubo going overnight for money farm

[sharp igloo]

Gotchya. I was gonna try that too tonight now that Ive spent the last week murdering green mushrooms on everyone lol

[vagrant mountain]

put your characters in cauldrons/sigils because your liquids are 100% gonna be full 😆

[violet chasm]

can i know how to fight nightmare kattlecruk with a bb?

[sharp igloo]

Yeah good idea lol. Rn i have them in cauldrons cause I still have a few that arent 170, and I wanted to get all the w6 bubbles pre-done, but after that Ill go bacl to sigils.

[pulsar cliff]

Attack kattle when all the moles are dead.

When the moles start getting close, alternate sides to kill whichver moles are closer to boss (Ignore boss).

EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go back to killing boss.

Rinse repeat.

[violet chasm]

omg this is so hard

how about vman

[pulsar cliff]

It's worse on VMan lol.

Exact same.

[violet chasm]

big sad

[opaque sun]

Vman is same but with less options to AoE and less damage

[violet chasm]

auto is almost impossible amirite

[sharp igloo]

Vman needs like 50bil damage right?

[opaque sun]

With 200b damage is brainless auto able

[pulsar cliff]

Comfortabl doable with about 50b.

I did it around 80b myself.

[opaque sun]

Using WASD keys makes it much easier to cull the moles

[sharp igloo]

My ES is around 210bil and my Vman is at like 5bil. Is that normal, or am I severely negpecting my Vman?

[violet chasm]

so basically ways to go

[errant sluice]

think its normal for a vman to have only 10% of the other chars dmg

[pulsar cliff]

This will take a bit lol

[errant sluice]

i have 1000 pens but im to lazy lol

[sharp igloo]

ES = 210bil (lv 410ish)
VMan = 5 bil (lv 380ish)
Archers and Warriors =25 bil (lv 380ish)
Mages (shaman) = 50-60bil (also lv 380ish)
Should I stop atomming mage shit and focus on my other guys, or keep pushing for 1 really strong ES?

Im trying to get 46 rift and so far only my ES can do it

[pulsar cliff]

I generally recommend more even splits but are you finding your progress impeded in some way?

Ah.

well - Then the answer is yes lol.

[sharp igloo]

I also want scarves, but i have no idea how to get my vman to 50bil damage lol

[vagrant mountain]

skills

[pulsar cliff]

^

[dreamy spruce]

I've heard that bubble 25ish (%dmg per 250 stat) is good for DMG

[pulsar cliff]

I had all my skills at min 75 when I hit my 80b

[sharp igloo]

Whats the best way to train fishing after 50 on vman?

[pulsar cliff]

Crystal Countdown, balloons, candies

[vagrant mountain]

candy

[sharp igloo]

I forgot about crystal countdown, I really need to start playing active on steam lol

[vagrant mountain]

but yeah you can actually grind a lot of levels if you just active vman

[barren otter]

i was where you were at not that long ago

[sharp igloo]

Alright ill try that next

[barren otter]

power trio & power trithree and slabo agility all help with vman dmg

and then obviously get luck bubble high too

did nm kruk at 27B dmg

took me like 25-30mins

[sharp igloo]

Are those talents or bubbles? Im bad with names lol

[barren otter]

bubbles

and the purple one

[pulsar cliff]

Oooooh my green refinery fired. Gonna go finish my tools.

[sharp igloo]

Gotchya. Im at 15/20 boron rn and trying to max that while atomming larrrryyyy so that I can start doing active bubo more and really upping my alchemy

[vagrant mountain]

can you atom the sailing mat bubbles?

[barren otter]

not all of em yet

[vagrant mountain]

some of them?

[barren otter]

most of em yea

been stuck here for a while

so havent gone back to get the others to atom yet

[vagrant mountain]

is it just the gaming one that you cant atom?

[barren otter]

that and the div one?

kinda skipped those 2 cause idgaf bout them

[opaque sun]

GT also cant be atomed due to not having material cost

[barren otter]

yea the 10k gt dream is dead

leaving mine at 5k for now

[sharp igloo]

My gt is at 1k and my wis bubble 1 is at 2k lol. Im completely neglecting gt 😅

[pulsar cliff]

Dang, my GT is around 5.5k and my wis is around 2k lol

[sharp igloo]

I never played active so I didnt get that CC GT action lol. I now see how useful that would have been lol

[pulsar cliff]

That's fair.

[sharp igloo]

Now I can barely even raise GT because Im spending all my liquid atomming other shit lol

[pulsar cliff]

Yuuuuuuup.

My liquids vanish the moment I get them.

Even hourly clicks are starting to get expensive lol.

[sharp igloo]

I guess thats why I should active bubo lol

[barren otter]

need good bubo to keep up with hourly clicks...

[sharp igloo]

My bubo is decent but not great. He can 1 shot wurms with poison wearing stingers, but he dies if he touches a crystal.

[barren otter]

it actually got really expensive recently for me

contract said to add 2hr clicks

which nearly doubled my liquid usage

[sharp igloo]

I started printing fruit flies today to up my fmj high enough to start atomming it until I could survive crystals.

[vagrant mountain]

how many kills per hour do you guys think i would get on my es active if my afk kph is 2m (for gmush)

[potent maple]

where do the friggin reset talent potion shards live in "autosort" i can't find them

[grizzled elk]

2nd row green chest for me

[potent maple]

less kills but more loot, depends on if you want caps or deathnote-type stuff

[vagrant mountain]

i want deathnote / portal

[opaque sun]

doing active just for the sole purpose of deathnote is usually not worth it is the general consensus

[vagrant mountain]

dang ok good to know

[potent maple]

yeah afk deathnote/lab bonus, active if you are dire out of gmush caps for refinery or somethin

[opaque sun]

if a thing can be done afk, best done afk

[potent maple]

bonus loot isnt bad, just not worth it if you're not needing it

[vagrant mountain]

i only have like 160m gmush kills , i want more money lol

[barren otter]

you got candy go

[opaque sun]

Your second SB is like the perfect character to build a designated afk killer (namely permanent gmush killer)

[vagrant mountain]

he is on suggmas rn 😆

forgot about him

[barren otter]

fist jail

o

[opaque sun]

active ES on suggma is like having 20 afk guys there to farm the recipe in terms of recipe drop expectancy

[potent maple]

hey herus i still haven't hit "go" on speedrun, about to though! had to make sure all of my everything was adjusted right, urgh

yeah less kills more drops

[vagrant mountain]

fair enough, i just threw him in there for cards / green stack

[pulsar cliff]

Are Opals usually the best for sampling? Over Dawn rings?

[potent maple]

those matter so little, i see dawn rings on some pins for "best possible" but i've never ever ever heard anyone mention them ever they are so smol

also depends on what you're sampling i suppose

what gains you're looking for

[opaque sun]

for skill sampling serrated rex usually beat anything else

[potent maple]

yeah i dont hear about dawn rings either, just serrated rex

i haven't made dawn rings cuz i like the actual gold pickles better, not worth the trade so far (eventually maybe)

[opaque sun]

The afk gain isnt enough compared to the raw efficiency giving more prowess tier

Opal’s stat % maybe surpass serrated rex maybe like in w7 when people have like 500,000 stats

[potent maple]

afk gain from dawnring isnt enough compared to the raw efficiency of serrated rex giving more prowess tier?

[vagrant mountain]

this is what neglect looks like

[potent maple]

this isn't WoW, gear isn't 99.9999% of power (alchemy and stuff is)

[pulsar cliff]

Yeaaaah. But it's a lot of raw stats they be missing out on.

Though my seond siege breaker looks pretty similar lol

[rugged token]

gigachad character

[potent maple]

account-wide stuff seems to be the most powerful, and ofc proper talents

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i literally play this game around alchemy hehe

it kind of feeds into itself with 3D printer... print stuff for bubbles to increase the size of your next print 😆

[hollow wasp]

why's so strong with amarok armor

[opaque sun]

alchemy is basically a dedicated equipment that you can keep upgrading

[ember olive]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[dreamy spruce]

read the past 10 messages..

[vagrant mountain]

yes

[hollow wasp]

:<

[pulsar cliff]

I'm just impressed you're alive in W5 with those stats

[vagrant mountain]

sometimes you gotta go back to go forward

[hollow wasp]

im gigachad

look how insane i am

[pulsar cliff]

Those be choices.

[vagrant mountain]

wait i got more kills with 14% survivability

[potent maple]

i'm just so old/slow player that i don't understand survivability < 100%, or low def/acc, i dunno what to suggest but keep going on alchemy etc

[pulsar cliff]

yuuuuuup.

[potent maple]

so many sources for that stuff, i dont understand why anyone doesn't have enough, i'm just forgetting the recommendations for them atm

[dreamy spruce]

low surv = food/fmj, low acc = shaq bubble is what people generally tell ppl to do

[potent maple]

food bag size, auto arm, bubbles

[vagrant mountain]

i can hit 100% if i put on food or level up my hp po box

but dont really need to because im active

[frosty pike]

lucky you never come back dead from a crystal..

[pulsar cliff]

It's also weird 'cause I've been current for each world launch, so if someone is getting wrecked at tremors or something it's like yeah I can throw pointers. But then I see people with amorak gear in deep W5 and I'm like. Oi.

[vagrant mountain]

crystals get me to like 30% hp but between instaclearing the map with haemogoblin and aura, i cant really die

[potent maple]

haven't needed hemo in AGES, you can get better i think from bubbles and stuff

probably you'll be there soon

you do seem to be solid on your way, you

you'll see

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i could probably powerlevel fmj, just havent really felt the need to

[potent maple]

so for context, i stopped using hemo in w3 when w3 was the end world (before w4 came out)

[vagrant mountain]

hemo is just a why not skill for me

[potent maple]

enough other sources for that by then, plus auto arm when that came in, killed the idea of hemo forever

[potent maple]

in that case you dont have the skillbooks from dungeon runs unlocked do ya?????? huh? 😄

[vagrant mountain]

well im not hitting this def req anytime soon so ima keep using hemo

i need megacrit still

hehe

cant hit book lv100 to get it :/

[vagrant mountain]

im like 12 books dry

[proud olive]

g

[paper mist]

hecking heck

i just did the maths on a full set of Luster armor and it requires 18250000 luster ore

can someone confirm my maths?

[potent maple]

yeah, maths = why do you want a full set of luster armor so who cares how much it costs (except for slab)?

[paper mist]

do i not want a full set of luster on all my characters?

[potent maple]

and yeah i think that's probs off by a zero or summin, it's not that bad

why though when boss armor is so much better?

[pulsar cliff]

Oh man. I've been neglectful of buying my dense water 😦

[paper mist]

...i didnt realise troll didnt require previous tiers of armor

[potent maple]

the straight metal armors aren't quite good, the stat bonuses on the boss armors are way better, even if it's a shitty old boss usually

[zinc torrent]

Is w5 boss armor worth rushing to if I am still on amarok armor?

[potent maple]

heck all of my dudes farming the end zone in w5 have shit armor... i haven't even unlocked all of the troll recipes yet!!! armor is a very small portion of your power

go for it if you can, but you're not effed without it

[paper mist]

ive got one troll kill

[potent maple]

i have efant and chiz armor for options, but most of your power comes from elsewhere like alchemy

[paper mist]

only need 1 for w5 access

[potent maple]

troll is psycho and confusing but easy, just click stuff and welcome to w5 and sit on divinity for a week

[pastel heath]

how do i get more dmg on my Mman

[potent maple]

keep going. what's your max world?

[pastel heath]

5

[sharp wind]

WTS Gold nugget 70k, send via pypl no hoax

💀

[potent maple]

read pins, do the things said in pins, make sure you do alchemy and all that past stuff too. nothing more secret to it at all!!!

all the info up there is pretty good to follow so you'll be good

[paper mist]

ive just made a semi annoying discovery, you HAVE to hit troll a few times before they give you the next mindgame

[pastel heath]

yeah and?

[paper mist]

troll being annoying, who could have seen that coming

[pastel heath]

he is such a troll

[paper mist]

im just trying to do the second troll task

[potent maple]

ikr

[paper mist]

for 20 mindgames

[potent maple]

i dont think i've even bothered that far, i know i dont have all eq unlocked... its good but not so good that it's worth it over my current comfort level

I could work for better gear, or not work for current gear, i think it's about even right now

[white sphinx]

How come there isnt a Gaming Garden tutorial?

[potent maple]

what IS there a tutorial for?

[paper mist]

mining and smithing

[frigid acorn]

messed up a run watching video and forgot actually doing td goodbye 120 orange

[potent maple]

oh ur right! it was simple back in the day but it totally counts i see your point

[paper mist]

i mean... you did ask

[opaque sun]

quick ref > hints

but yeah lava didnt bother making for w5 one

[pulsar cliff]

It's resampling time. Pls be good.

[viral snow]

Good luck
Quadrupled mine yesterday

[potent maple]

i put off samples so long it was embarrassing, like 30x my previous samples... just think if i had even half-assed it somewhere in the line how much more i would have had!

i heard someone say a few weeks ago "bad samples are better than no samples" and i am learning that as my life mantra now

[pulsar cliff]

I'm content.

[errant gyro]

!refinery

[obtuse orbit]

The refinery will produce salts on a cycle as long as you have the required materials in your chest when the timer hits 0. In order to increase the rank of a salt in the refinery, you have to let your power bar for the salt completely fill before refining.

[errant gyro]

!refinerychart

what is it again

[zealous niche]

It’s in w3/4 question pins

[potent maple]

there is a chan for bot commands at will so you dont have to worry about spamming

[errant gyro]

sick cheers

[potent maple]

i shoulda had AJ's answer, it was better

[zealous niche]

I was looking at it earlier today so was fresh on my mind

[potent maple]

lols and i was going through bot commands earlier and learning there was stuff there i didn't know about, so in a way, same here haha

but you helped better in the moment so kudos, i like being cool to each other on ze interwebz

[bright current]

road 2 green stack

[potent maple]

irl lol for ya there, you made my day better just now

what is everyone's favorite background music when doing a vman speedrun?

[cunning summit]

California gurls

[potent maple]

beach boys?

this one seems good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXFSK0ogeg4&t=47s

super epic

[cunning summit]

https://youtu.be/evDfB44CqMI

https://youtu.be/QBzz-yPE4mI

try these

[zealous niche]

I just blitz through them in silence like a murderhobo

[tacit tulip]

There's almost always 2 people in the room I'm in so no real need for music 😄

[potent maple]

its just that ive been putting off my first run for an embaressingly long time

i unlocked the first day

[vagrant mountain]

i like to listen to kk slider

[tacit tulip]

the first run doesn't really matter that much

you need 3-4 to build uyp your points to make a good one anyway

[potent maple]

its to build the next runs i take it?

[tacit tulip]

yeah

first 2 are basically getting the hang of how it works and setting up a route

[dreamy spruce]

oyu unlocked it and still havent done a run? O_O

[potent maple]

i kept thinking i'd be better equipped to do a run "tomorrow" and haven't done it yet but about to!

[tacit tulip]

You're definitely shooting yourself in the foot for what it's worth

[dreamy spruce]

be aware that if you did a lot of deathnote on vman it might fuck your deathnote up

[potent maple]

i did one run for 15 portals that first time

[tacit tulip]

the vman talents are some of the strongest in the game and are account-wide

what's your fury like? You're gonna want max books for the speedrun, boss kills, aoe skill and MK/t talents to improve the other runs

alos just noticed, while doing mega chows last night I almost finished w2 cards

but w1/3 are nowhere near lol

[potent maple]

i'm an older slower player, i've probably got the basic stats

[dreamy spruce]

Splicer maybe?

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/RxcGmJS.png
place your bets for weekly doot gamble

[potent maple]

i've gotten all but construction rift and 6* card rift

[tacit tulip]

that doesn't increase card rate 😄

[cunning summit]

sand pot

[dreamy spruce]

reduces it, thought mby you spliced w1 and w3 but didnt do it as much in w2

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/i8FYe4j.png

wrong

[cunning summit]

close enough

[tacit tulip]

As much as I hate doot, it's kinda nice seeing when people get excited over free doot

It's like "good for you buddy"

[cunning summit]

doot is just a old sheepie

[viral snow]

sheepie is freakin great aswell

[tacit tulip]

about 4 hours til I can grab my free not-doot

[viral snow]

I love my sheepie

[viral snow]

maybe today is your lucky day

[tacit tulip]

My concern is if I get doot before my wife she might divorce me 😂

[dreamy spruce]

just recycle doot then

[viral snow]

just dont tell her

[cunning summit]

i have 4 sand pots back to back god lava hates me

[cunning summit]

how cute a couple playing idleon

[cunning summit]

me too

[tacit tulip]

We met ~12 years ago playing maplestory, both ended up working on the game, then finally got together a few years ago

Now we work elsewhere but are living together, obviously 😄

[cunning summit]

great dad lore

[tacit tulip]

So we still play pretty much every game together

[cunning summit]

cant relate
#singlesincebirth

[opaque sun]

going for “lone wolf” achievement for this run

[viral snow]

just wait for trading to be implemented
Thats just one more platform to be used for dating

[cunning summit]

“spoiling my e girl by giving (her?) a doot for free”

[cunning summit]

based

[tacit tulip]

Mate we're buying a house this week, she aint getting a doot from me any time soon lmao

[viral snow]

is a house really better than having 2 doots ?

[cunning summit]

nawww screw the house buy green gems

[viral snow]

imagine how many doots you could buy wit that money

[tacit tulip]

House lowers our future costs (due to mortgage typically dropping below rent) which will allow for many doots

It's like investing into larry bubble, expensive but worth it in the long run

[dreamy spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-meme-gif-16107418

[cunning summit]

seeing the big picture i see

[viral snow]

as long you got some good rates locked down

but also gotta calculate in the possible gainz from doot

are lower cost of living really that great ?

[tacit tulip]

ye doing a 5 year fixed. Also likely to be promoted this year which will skew things in our favour

[cunning summit]

bros living the life

[opaque sun]

best option is to buy a house that comes with a doot redeem code

[wanton obsidian]

How high should I lvl this? I print around 275k per hour

[potent maple]

first vman run 15, 2nd 31, still getting the hang of it but i think it's making sense

i hope 64 is a lower level for you, do you wanna just let "no bubble left behind" to lvl it for you?

[viral snow]

i should do a run for mob sampling
But im kinda lazy

[potent maple]

if 64 is high and its on this skillbubble, chill out

[wanton obsidian]

My lowest bubbles are like lvl 15-20 ish

[potent maple]

you should alchemy a lot, it's your best friend for always and forever really for sure

it affects all characters, all multipliers, its more stonks than stonks

[wanton obsidian]

I mean yea.. but I'm not lvling the others that are useless

[potent maple]

you lvled this one that was useless

[wanton obsidian]

I'm focusing on the ones that actually benefits me

[potent maple]

besides this one?

[wanton obsidian]

You think this is useless?

[potent maple]

you could be getting actual gains instead

[wanton obsidian]

Like?

[crisp silo]

All bubbles are useful

[potent maple]

yeah true, you're right i think

[wanton obsidian]

Most not all

[crisp silo]

Gotta lvl up all bubbles so nblb hits expensive bubbles

So they have a use

[potent maple]

what's your cooking cranium bubble at?

[wanton obsidian]

Useless ones stay at lvl 1

[crisp silo]

Dont think expensive bubbles are lvl1

[wanton obsidian]

I don't focus on it I'm not using bubo

[potent maple]

oh that's why you're behind in alchemy then!

[crisp silo]

Wait a min

Im blind

Wait which bubble is useless

[potent maple]

bubo makes alchemy go a million miles per hour with cooking cranium

[crisp silo]

They all kjnda add up

[wanton obsidian]

There are some bubbles better kept at lvl 1 since they get wasted on NBLB

[potent maple]

that's your missing link

[crisp silo]

Like?

Oh well im past that stage anyways all bubbles at least 70

[wanton obsidian]

Uhm you're thinking this on your own view point not my view point

If I were to focus on bubo rn that's probably a really bad idea

I don't have the talents and books for him

[crisp silo]

Honestly it takes time for alch unless you actively farm mats

[potent maple]

you get days worth of alchemy progress every gaming session with active bubbo/cooking cranium, so much alchemy upgrades

not much time needed, i'm talkin just cooking crainium and the yellow class exp bubble

[wanton obsidian]

Like this useless af worst bubble in game

[potent maple]

only thing to "farm" or sample is toilet paper, spend bargin tags on cooking cranium and the rest on the yellow class epx bubble, then rest of the liquid on the next tab of liquid regen rate

[wanton obsidian]

Yes. I never said bubo was shit

I said bubo at this point is bad for me

Late game 100% couldn't disagree but now? It's way too early for me to be active on bubo

[potent maple]

eh if you're concerned about the bubble you asked about, you might want to spend some time catching up with the others soon, i see your point thoiugh

[opaque sun]

Its worth to print logs for anvilnomics just so you can get that to stop wasting nblb

[wanton obsidian]

Catching up like what bubble??

[potent maple]

bubo was the first friggin thing any of us were ACTIVE on for real

there is no "too early" cuz alchemy is king

[opaque sun]

grandpa Hunter crying hearing that

[wanton obsidian]

You guys had awhile to scale your dmg while Ive only been playing a little over a month

But yes I'd like to know what bubble I should be catching up on

[potent maple]

alchemy is your best bet, can't keep saying it enough, i know you've only had a month to hear it but eventually it'll sink in

[wanton obsidian]

Worst bubble

[potent maple]

all of the everything, esp using bubo active for more progression

wont take long

[wanton obsidian]

So you're basically saying drop everything I'm working on right now and brute force my books and talents on bubo 🙂?

[proud pumice]

no, you should focus on getting to w5 first

bubo becomes godlike on lvl 200 talents

[wanton obsidian]

Already there

[wanton obsidian]

EXACTLY that's what I've been saying

This guy here is recommending active on bubo at this point of time

[proud pumice]

if you want you can lvl him up for talent points to be ready for when you start getting closer

[wanton obsidian]

@proud pumice do you think this is a bad bubble to focus?

Apparently it is by his standard

[proud pumice]

my bubo is currently pushing, i accidentally CCed on my last map and only got 1h worth of alchemy from CC, definetely not a gamechanging buff

it is a really good bubble until you can max prowess from other stats

[wanton obsidian]

Gosh glad there's someone that can actually give good advice

[proud pumice]

the problem is that it competes with the cranium cooking bubble

[twilit goblet]

how does it work again? this + cooking prowess then divide the sum by 2?

[wanton obsidian]

I can lvl that up too

Just not useful for me rn just trying to get my prints up for every char

[proud pumice]

they both cost toilet paper logs, so they compete directly

[wanton obsidian]

Yes ik that

[proud pumice]

it lowers the eff required for the multipliers, but hard caps at 2x

[wanton obsidian]

It's really good with low req

For more oak/copper

[proud pumice]

i still think focusing on the skilling bubbles specific for each skill nets more results, but this is good

[viral snow]

for vman mob sampling speedrun I should just focus on getting as many boss kills as possible and then sample with the mk skill right ?

[wanton obsidian]

Yes I'm doing that as well

[twilit goblet]

ah I see thanks

[twilit goblet]

ye

[untold saffron]

how many hours is it to craft 10million bullets on an anvil?

[wanton obsidian]

Wth why do u need that much?

[untold saffron]

for the green stack dopamine

[signal osprey]

If you have enough carry capacity to hold the mats it wont take hours at all

[wanton obsidian]

Ahhh

[signal osprey]

Craft from storage is way slower than crafting from your bag

[untold saffron]

oh is it, interesting

[signal osprey]

Crafting from your bag doesnt have a speed cap

As long as you hold the button down it gets faster and faster

[opaque comet]

mantra works for char out of divinity?

[opaque sun]

Yeah, kill 2 (or 3) normal bosses and just sample while void radius is on

Nightmare and normal both just counts as 1 kill for the purpose of the respawn buff, so no real point to use nightmare keys for a sample run

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/FvsR8St.png
https://i.imgur.com/4QzOzw9.png
worth it and even got 3 more portals unlocked aswell

https://i.imgur.com/TV3SVQc.png
thats even better

[tight ridge]

does cranium cooking work on sigils

[viral snow]

nope

[tight ridge]

damn

so cc is only for liquid now when u max boosts

[viral snow]

pretty much yeh

[opaque sun]

it used to work on day 1 of sigil release

lava then hot fixed it and set anyone above like the 5th sigil or higher back to 4th sigil or something

[tacit tulip]

So happy to be free from the hampter farm forever

Sure, I'm farming batteries now, but those should be quicker due to higher portal count

[bold quiver]

wow did u finish all weapon + all bags?

[tacit tulip]

yup

[bold quiver]

congrats man!

[tacit tulip]

I do need to get lvl 4 vial at some point

but that's pretty low prio

[bold quiver]

ill get that vial at W7 when my drop rate is 82192

[tacit tulip]

like the hampter vial is sailing exp which I don't need, so it'd be purely for bubo

[bold quiver]

u just remembred me i have to farm 130 hampters to get my VMAN the material bag from W5. I thought i had it but i didnt lol

[bold quiver]

yeah and purely to flex cuz lets be honest, that extra vial wont increase his dmg in not even 2% kkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[tacit tulip]

need to take a new vman sample too, realsied I have 1b sheep wool lmao

[bold quiver]

im trying to fnish this

[tacit tulip]

I actually kinda overdid it

I've finished the vial, forgot to change it, so have a spare 1b

[bold quiver]

gotta stop printing those sheeps

[tacit tulip]

it's used in green salt so meh, not the end of the world lol

[bold quiver]

true

soon. The last bubbles i want to get to atom range!

[visual lava]

Love when you think you have a lot of materials leftover for refinery then proceed to proc Ref on every Character

• p o o f *

[tacit tulip]

the downside to doot haha

[granite grove]

whats the best class to finish 5k rift skull stage asap?

[bold quiver]

and the never ending birthday cards

[viral snow]

those are from sheepie arent they ?

[granite grove]

its sheep for alch bubbles

[bold quiver]

ohhhhhh true. Screw u sheepie!

[viral snow]

yeh those are annoying as hell

[pliant kettle]

Can you get Divinity xp while being on that charachter? I left my pc on for the whole night and didnt get any xp

[viral snow]

you need to be at the altar for divinity

or lab with goat

[bold quiver]

cant, its a offline thing as far as i know. NO idea about tranqi tho

[pliant kettle]

I was there

So oke it's only offline then

[viral snow]

yeh its offline only afaik

[pliant kettle]

Oke, thanks guys

[bold quiver]

and candy doesnt give u divinity exp

[weary hinge]

tranqi needs to be offline too

[lime kite]

What is the max cd reduction you can get on cranium cooking bubble?

[opaque sun]

hard caps at 120%

But practical is around 110-115%

[lime kite]

What level would that be? 250?

[opaque sun]

110 is around 750, 115 at around 1500

[lime kite]

God damn.

[opaque sun]

do note its also 115% more second progress, 115% more duration, so its lot of boost

[lime kite]

True.

I am confused on the gain that I get from cranium.

[opaque sun]

It was worth spending couple atom days on it as well as printing logs to do hourly bubble clicks

[lime kite]

Just more alchemy exp?

[opaque sun]

More progress means faster liquid filling, so you can return back doing other active farming like DK after you fill your liquid

Or you can just do 10k-20k clicks of grind time

[lime kite]

Oh right liquid.

[opaque sun]

It eventually becomes like triggering cranium cooking every 10min or so, and 3-4 cc fills most liquid cap to max

[lime kite]

How do I get crazy liquid cap tho?

I see some people with 10k+

Even with lab I barely get 7k.

[opaque sun]

dragonic cauldron from the limited time shop

[lime kite]

I do have that.

So just stamps?

[opaque sun]

And spending liquid in them

[lime kite]

Right.

[pliant kettle]

Does doot pet give the mayor link bonuses all the time or only the smaller link bonus?

[weary hinge]

everythihng

[opaque sun]

gives both main effect and minor link bonus except for purrmep’s minor link as that needs someone to actually link a purrmep (puurmep’s main link is activated all the time tho)

[weary hinge]

all the bonuses you see will be active the moment you get doot

[pliant kettle]

Thats so op then

[spare sigil]

are there anyway to quick craft faster?

[opaque sun]

That is why when someone comes to w5 and ask “what should i do?”, the answer is “start a new game and reroll doot”

[weary hinge]

yea sounds stupid but thats the biggest boost for anyone

[pliant kettle]

I got doot on a free roll

[opaque sun]

Like whatever hours you spent to reach w5 is nothing compared to what doot offers

[weary hinge]

then lucky for you

[pliant kettle]

I wanted rift slug but got doot

[grizzled elk]

I still can't believe how OP doot is..

[pliant kettle]

25 hours and i will have a chance to get my first divine, imma be op then

[grizzled elk]

did Lava not comprehend how strong that is in his own game

[opaque sun]

mild warning that if you active on a char with Divinity lv1, doot deactivates for everyone

[lime kite]

It kinda makes the whole linking thing useless.

[opaque sun]

Just make sure to level everyone to divinity lv2 at least

[pliant kettle]

If i wouldn't have doot, i would want him to be nerfed

[weary hinge]

thats what made most of the endgamers quit. the way it can be obtained

[coral goblet]

how many more until i should full send it

[pliant kettle]

Isnt divinity account bound? Not /char

[lime kite]

Yeah.

[opaque sun]

its per char

[weary hinge]

its per char

[grizzled elk]

theres no way that should've been a bonus thats available when W5 isn't even completed yet

[pliant kettle]

Oh

[weary hinge]

sailing and gaming is acctwide

[lime kite]

Oh I though you asked doot.

[opaque sun]

gaming/sailing is account

[lime kite]

No divinity is char based.

[lime kite]

Most?

[opaque sun]

also divinity is still good to level for minor link bonus, and need to unlock gods for the blessings

[weary hinge]

well yeah. massive purge on the server too. i was there, watching the world burn

[fading dust]

Whatre the top 5 things that contribute towards breaking 1 bil dmg 👀

[opaque sun]

alchemy, and 4 other stuff that helps alchemy

[coral goblet]

lol p much

[lime kite]

Well atleast Lava is making bank off green gems :/

[weary hinge]

yea true that

[lime kite]

I imagine every whale spent like 200 bucks just on greens.

[weary hinge]

and not getting doot.

[fading dust]

Which bubbles should I focus? Seems like the mat costs scale so differently

[lime kite]

And will do so every new pet release.

[grizzled elk]

I'd assume way more than 200

[opaque sun]

id say dont focus and do little of everything

[coral goblet]

green stacking is big

[fading dust]

A girl spent $600, didnt get doot, and initiated a chargeback

[weary hinge]

i wanna help on alch thing but damn i dont even know the bubble names lmao

[fading dust]

I need to get on that train

[opaque sun]

Since most stuff are multiplier of another, little bit of everything is usually better than super one thing but 0 in other

[weary hinge]

the eldritch skuls are huge too

[grizzled elk]

if the next round of pets, or the next big update is anouther obvious cash grab, I'm out

[fading dust]

You mean eclipse skull?

[weary hinge]

yea that one

the 1b kills

see im bad at the names on this game kek

[opaque sun]

If you not getting like 5m/hr on gmush, i wouldnt advise doing eclipse kills tho

[fading dust]

Hahaha I am far from being able to get 1b kills on a mob

[lime kite]

Alchemy is such a pain.

[weary hinge]

yea. even hourly clicks tires me out hahaha

[lime kite]

And the root of all my problems.

[fading dust]

I need to resample before I can progress in alchemy again - all my liquid currently goes into GT

[lime kite]

All my liquid goes into dense water lmao.

Somehow I always manage to be at a deficit.

[noble cradle]

whats the best class setup you could go for?

[lime kite]

I don't even know what to focus on, too many bubbles.

[lime kite]

For what class? For what purpose?

[coral goblet]

just look at what your no bubble left behind is leveling

[grizzled elk]

what are you using so much dense water on?

[coral goblet]

and level that until no bubble is helping bubbles that hard mats like lots of souls or critters etc

[lime kite]

I don't know, but I always need it.

[weary hinge]

once a bubble can be atomed, imma be a happy person

[noble cradle]

overall classes for all 10 char what class should i get twice etc if i were to start alll over

[lime kite]

I think if I stock up on 100 I should be fine.

[weary hinge]

2 dk. 2 sb, 2 es. 1 sham, 1 bm, 1bb, 1 maestro something like that

[lime kite]

Honestly I would get multiple maestros.

Unless that's imposiible now.

[grizzled elk]

why?

[viral snow]

Just do 10 vmans

[weary hinge]

printing skill op

[lime kite]

Printing.

[opaque sun]

its possible, but just be aware of the hand mechanic of having multiple mman

[lime kite]

I remember someone had 3 maestros.

[opaque sun]

It basically has the same bug as 2 bb super chow

[lime kite]

And had insane bubbles from the printing spam.

[opaque sun]

To be more precise, 2 bb super chow bug was due to lava reusing the code for mman hands

[grizzled elk]

his printing skill? doesn't seem like it would be worth it to me

[lime kite]

I want to change my bb to dk.

[opaque sun]

Multiple mman seems nice, until you get doot which gives omni on all and then the printer skill starts to look less shiny than before

[lime kite]

That's right too.

[viral snow]

I did that
Still think it was worth it to have 2dk instead of 2bb

[astral knoll]

should i buy this for all char?

[lime kite]

Yeah.

[opaque sun]

eventually you would give everyone pair of opals

[tough tusk]

doot is the realm of the whales

[lime kite]

I got 2 bb's because I had 2 barbs before w4

[opaque sun]

But may want to give persephones first if not close to farming kattle scarf

[astral knoll]

i have one

[opaque sun]

Pair of opals are best in slot for active, but not like it makes a big difference in actual gains

Its like something to max after you done buying stuff from dungeons

[lime kite]

Doot means 6x prints and omni all the time.

Now that is some printing gaming.

[fathom lagoon]

Omni all the time is lowkey a cheat code

[opaque sun]

I honestly wont be able to stand doing “click bubble” > “use printer brrr” > “click bubble” on multiple mmans

[misty crown]

what's the best map for the true pirate achievement?

[opaque sun]

theoretically oj

[granite grove]

OJ bay iirc, flat map which maximizes SB mob clear

[fathom lagoon]

What bubble are you referencing

[opaque sun]

But wurms get similar kills

[opaque sun]

Any bubbles you printing mats for hourly clicks

[misty crown]

okay thanks

[grizzled elk]

Doot is only going to be more of a cheat code when lava finishes the last 2 gods

[lime kite]

I mean it is 200 bucks for doot.

[opaque sun]

printer procs are mainly for bubble clicks than particles

[lime kite]

Cause it is 100% chance in 200 drops.

Pretty sure.

[tacit tulip]

each pull costs more than $1

lol

[granite grove]

up to $505 assuming no recycles, or reasonably $420-480 if bad luck but with recycles

[opaque sun]

Each rolls costs more when treat level rises

Yes lava did the scaling gacha cost

[granite grove]

or if you somehow got 199 rift slugs to be recycled, maybe like $5 tops

[lime kite]

Idleon is officially a gacha game.

[opaque sun]

its more gacha than other gacha games would never done in their gacha

[viral snow]

Cost increases with each tier
Guaranteed pity is calculated at close to 500$ afaik

[lime kite]

Arguable.

[grizzled elk]

I can't belive with how harsh the backlash was that lava did basically nothing about it

[opaque sun]

1. Announces it will be trade able
2. More you roll, makes it more expensive
3. Later adds a compensation to those who didint pull, but those who got it got 0 pity gauge

[vestal yew]

has anyone managed to speedrun all the portals with vman by chance? Just curious

[opaque sun]

Other gacha games are like “fuck, i wanna see how that turns out”

[grizzled elk]

sounds like basically nothing to me

[tacit tulip]

the last portal in w5 is 10m kills, it's basically impossible

in theory if you had near infinite damage yuou could clear every map in one punch

[vestal yew]

lol

thats cool though

[opaque sun]

Need more sources of kill multiplier for later world speed run

[vestal yew]

my damage isnt nearly there yet... I think I might be able to reach w3 once my cd resets and I can try again..

[granite grove]

the cost scaling is stupid, and the odds rising with cost is just an illusion imo

could've make price fixed and just make the odds scale up less strong, say like 1.3x max or sth

[opaque sun]

Even with infinite damage, multi kill tiers caps

[vestal yew]

what does it cap at??

[tacit tulip]

huh, assumed that'd just go on forever

[opaque sun]

39x or something

[vestal yew]

:c

[grizzled elk]

he definitely didn't say the cost would increase as you went up ranks, so that was super misleading when buying greens thinking you would get X rolls

[granite grove]

oof, lava shouldve just make the MK infinite since the exponentials kinda functions as some form of soft cap

[opaque sun]

You can get more “per tier” % and stuff, but damage kind of near cap for multikilling

[vestal yew]

is there a way to use vmans multikill ability for better samples?

oh

[tacit tulip]

Yup, just use it during a run and sample basically

[opaque sun]

thats the whole point of people saying using void for sample runs

[granite grove]

and kill at least w1 boss for increased mob respawn to sample, right?

[tacit tulip]

Do the respawn speed bfufs from boss kills count for the sample too? Would asume it did

[vestal yew]

well it seemed a bit misleading. It looked like all the kills you get with the ability count as multikill

[fading cape]

up the skill that gains respawn % based on boss kills, get to as high a boss you can, use the kill all skill that makes multikill insane, then sample.

[opaque sun]

Yes, that is why you kill 2 (or 3) bosses for the respawn bonus

[viral snow]

Just kill as many bosses as you can for respawn bonus and tjen sample

[vestal yew]

ah okay sounds good

[fading cape]

almost got to third boss yesterday when sampling with vman. so so close.

[vestal yew]

do chaotic/nightmare bosses count as an extra portal?

[fading cape]

yes. nightmare is three portals

[granite grove]

only if MK buff lasts little longer than 20s, had to go rush between maps asap, or spare more time for sampling to able to cast skill twice

[opaque sun]

You would go straight to kill amarok and efaunt normal and then sample stuff with void radius

[fading cape]

but for the sampling during the run each boss only counts as 1 for the skill that ups respawn

[opaque sun]

If you good enough, you can also manage to get chiz kills too, but maybe demanding

[granite grove]

oh, should try kill chaotic/nightmare amarok for next runs

[vestal yew]

right... as of now I need to get a good portal score for more points... so I can do the speed run better for later times

[opaque sun]

for sample runs, you only need to kill normal

For highscore runs you kill nightmare

[vestal yew]

right, I'll do one highscore run for points on my vman, then do sampling later

[opaque sun]

for the respawn buff, killing nightmare and normal acts the same. And killing other difficulty does nothing

[vestal yew]

I havent bothered leveling yet, is the only way to get points on 4th tab by portal speedrunning?

[granite grove]

need extra 60 points here so yeah def would kill those 2 difficulty

[opaque sun]

and chess talent gives tab 4 pts

[vestal yew]

and that one

lol

[granite grove]

4th tab skill points are from tab 3 chess point and portals, so have to be real fast and stack up MK/t

[opaque sun]

For highscore run, you only need to kill nightmare

So chaos kills is just waste of time for anything

[vestal yew]

right.....

[granite grove]

nightmare kill automatically counts all 3 instead of needing to kill normal/chaotic for 1 each, right?

ah ok

[vestal yew]

ah okay, so nightmare unlocks 3?

chaotic unlocks 2...

and so forth

[opaque sun]

If you kill normal first, you actually lock out on portal for killing nightmare

[vestal yew]

but they only count for one, for the respawn bonux

[opaque sun]

Basically you can only kill one difficulty boss during a run. Portal is given by 3, 2, 1 from the highest difficulty. For respawn bonus, its 1, 1, 1 for any difficulty

[vestal yew]

coo

[opaque sun]

If you dont mind wasting keys, you can kill nightmare on a sample run, but like why waste keys

[vestal yew]

yeah..

I need account progression to further my damage considerably. I only have 1.5-4m on my vman atm

[summer folio]

XD 4x my v-mans damage

[opaque sun]

Also for sample run, you run snake god for afk gain (more samples). Nobi is good for speed runs, but kill per kill type of kills dont count for samples

[atomic atlas]

I need a comp of 5 pet for pet battle

do u have a guide ?

[hexed crescent]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[atomic atlas]

Nothing in this

who have a screen of the other guide with pet ?

[summer folio]

there's a pet chart pin'd tyo the w3-w4 channel

[vestal yew]

I have king doot

[weary hinge]

damn

[summer folio]

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[primal bison]

What’s the best way to get snail in gaming? Currently sitting at 19k gold nugget

[violet chasm]

anyone knows whats the minimum damage for ES to get portal score of 60 at rift 44

[sick sentinel]

Ive seen 110 be able to do it with maxed dmg talents and abilites

110B

Max portal for longer duration and use the small platform down the rope beneath spawn area

[opaque sun]

talent levels kind of more important than damage on character sheet

Maxed out talents also dishes out lot of effective damage

[void badge]

Should my ES be linked to Arctis and his 2nd god be Harriep for x6 prints? or does that not work?

[bold quiver]

i prefer harieph on link and arctics on talent

[void badge]

but both work?

[sick sentinel]

That way you can link to omni if es is in lab too

[bold quiver]

2nd ES i pick Hariep link omniphau second

[void badge]

I wish I had 3 mages

:/

[bold quiver]

What doesnt work is Goat + bear

[opaque sun]

just a warning that ES’s talent god slot doesnt get applied when afk, so minor link that affects everyone needs to be equipped mainly

[bold quiver]

Cuz goat requires physicaly in lab, while bear is spiritualy

[void badge]

ohhhh thanks

[opaque sun]

So hare and goat minor link bonus only applies to himself if worn as 2nd god

[void badge]

Alright I linked to Harriep and 2nd linked Arctis

thanks

[opaque sun]

With doot, it obviously solves all that

[void badge]

bruh who do you think I am lol

[bold quiver]

idk why bring doot up evrytime gods are asked.... whats the point

[opaque sun]

you have slime, while i dont, so one day when trade is added i may offer to trade my 2nd doot for slime

[bold quiver]

its like bringing up p2w packs wth afk gains and drop rate everytime someone asks about sampling and loot

[sick sentinel]

No frog for me

[void badge]

I can't trade undtradeables 😦

[wary torrent]

is there a gold nugget chance calculator?

[plush spear]

It's quite annoying these ppl

[tacit tulip]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/156T8wnXe73T2drNQeFL3ut3qk_nr6HSCZc7ylSCMyYY/edit

[wary torrent]

thx

[rustic garnet]

is there a better way to try to drop the sluggma gloves recipe?

[sick sentinel]

Active es with droprate and dmg and pray

[rustic garnet]

That's not a good way, surely

[sick sentinel]

Thats pretty much what we got to work with

Can afk other chars

[granite grove]

theres another way with stocking up 1 week of afk and doing sussy saving method, not recommendeed for obvious reason

[rustic garnet]

ah, I see

[granite grove]

just ES active and stack up that x15 DR and maybe 172T dmg

[rustic garnet]

I can get to ~14.83

That's very specific numbers

[dreamy spruce]

Why 172T dmg specifically?

[signal osprey]

There is no specific reason

He made that up

[granite grove]

for dramatic effect

[dreamy spruce]

ah

[heavy moth]

172T XD not alot of people have that kind of dmg

[granite grove]

not until they atom quick slap bubble hard enough

[bold quiver]

is this that strong?

[signal osprey]

Best damage bubble in the game

[bold quiver]

hmmm

wonder how high woud my dmg be if i leveled that

[heavy moth]

give that bubble some love

[granite grove]

for reference on base dmg bubble

[bold quiver]

still got other priorities before i can do it

[dreamy spruce]

why is it so much better than the hp / mp equivalent?

[granite grove]

unlike HP/MP ones, MS isnt scaled logarithmically so it goes really hard

[rustic garnet]

the MS boost

[granite grove]

HP and MP has log scaling in it

[heavy moth]

yea sad thing that its not hour clickable

[tacit tulip]

I used quick slap to get my vman damage up for nm kattle

[bold quiver]

didnt lvl any of the 3

[signal osprey]

Realistically all 3 are great

[dreamy spruce]

ah makes sense. How do I scale my movespeed on non hunters? speed pots, stamps and statues?

[signal osprey]

Most end gamers choose to just hourly click name I guess rather than atom quick slap

[heavy moth]

is quick slap a great scaling for ES too ?

[signal osprey]

Its slightly worse but still scales incredibly well

And it cost no atoms

[bold quiver]

i can get to around 15T dmg i think, maybe more, would my dmg go to 30-50T if i leveled those to 1k?

[granite grove]

atom for quick slab, hourly for name i guess

[heavy moth]

need some love on the hp one too i guess

[signal osprey]

Hp one just isnt worth it

[bold quiver]

u hate the HP

[granite grove]

the bubble formula has [lv^2 / 100] as a part of equation, this goes really really hard with higher levels

[signal osprey]

The thing with those bubbles is that they are quadratic

So the more levels you give them the better they scale

[heavy moth]

yuuuup neglecting thoise warrior except for mining and cooking

[signal osprey]

For best results you level 1 of them as much as possible rather than all of them equally

Name I guess is good because it doesnt require atoms

But if youre using atoms then you do quick slap because it scales the hardest

Theres no good reason to do the hp one

[granite grove]

HP one is only for NBLB

[rustic garnet]

Man, captain leveling is insanely fast... Just bought this and did like 4 or 5 rounds of claiming for exp

[bold quiver]

are these the hourly bubble mats? or am missing something

[rustic garnet]

They are not the true hourly rates

[bold quiver]

ill only click something if i can get 1000M in 1h for reference

[rustic garnet]

the true hourly rates include x6 if purple

and also the multis on the left

you can check on IE or IT

[bold quiver]

i need to check if i can produce 1000M with bonuses

[rustic garnet]

I mean all of those, mulitipled by 6, get very close without any other bonus

[bold quiver]

but are those the hourly rates

[rustic garnet]

Those are the SAMPLE rates

not the hourly rates

[signal osprey]

I click those as well as plat, void, and tundra logs

[heavy moth]

same as mine but eventualy ill add void and alien

[bold quiver]

i dont care if idont have material, im asking if they are the hourly bubbles

[granite grove]

hourly rates as in are the samples for alch bubbles to be hourly clicked, i suppose

[bold quiver]

gotcha

[signal osprey]

I could do alien right now but I'm not sure if I want to give up more atom production

[bold quiver]

yeah 1h of atom = 1 click

[granite grove]

item material not the sample size

[rustic garnet]

You want to know if those are the 'correct' ones for the hourly clicks?

[heavy moth]

this one too att least to level 900

[zinc torrent]

Man still no update

[signal osprey]

Any bubble is an hourly bubble if you can produce enough of it

[primal bison]

On vman should I upgrade ALL magma gear to Kattle?

[rustic garnet]

All of the ones there are included in possible 'hourly clicks'

[signal osprey]

Just gotta check for yourself what your account is capable of

[bold quiver]

but not every bubble would be clicked even if u could produce enough mats cuz they suck lol

[rustic garnet]

Your quesiton is not specifically ansawerable, but they are all bubble materials

[bold quiver]

if u couldnt understand the true meaning of the question iw as not for u

it was already implied

[rustic garnet]

I understood your question, it was poorly worded, and I answered both ambiguous parts of it for you

You are welcome, learning is power

[bold quiver]

not directed to u

it was implied

[granite grove]

check if you can print 1b plat ores, if so then hourly click orange 8th bubble

this may sacifice some of your atom production tho

[bold quiver]

i aint wasting my time being specific for something that is already implied

[rustic garnet]

heh ok

[bold quiver]

XD

[rustic garnet]

Poor communication is the cause of most major problems in the world, falling on the dagger of 'but I implied it' when clearly there was confusion, is a way to fall directly on your own sword forever and ever.

[bold quiver]

nice

[heavy moth]

red boating these take sooooo much time

[signal osprey]

Also just because you cant do a bubble every hour doesnt mean it isnt worth doing at all

My void clicks are every other hour

[bold quiver]

I dont care, im not asking question at W2 chat for people that dont understand the game. The question was specificaly for people that know what i was talking about

[rustic garnet]

I think I need to resample entirely for hourly clicks

[signal osprey]

Still a great bubble so I'm gonna do it

[bold quiver]

Makes sense, void bubble is insanely strong

[signal osprey]

I also did plat clicks every other hour until my gold skull got my print to 1b

Or even do 2 slots of it if you want. You lose more atoms but gain more clicks and as long as you still produce enough atoms then its worth the trade off

[bold quiver]

true. Il checkout what i can produce and how many daily atoms i have left.

[primal bison]

Bump

[rustic garnet]

The general recommendation for kattle gear depends a bit

but the all stats is really good from magma

and the mob respawn from kattle is good

[granite grove]

adding to the question? is it worth tho? losing all stats which is a decent damage booster which vman kinda needs

unless for boss farming then get the helm or sth because DR

[opaque sun]

one printer slot of oak is pretty much all the particle production you need imo. Rest of the slots should be hourly bubble mats

[rustic garnet]

The DR is very tempting too by itself

[primal bison]

Trying to beat chaotic kruk and I’m really low on damage trying to find ways to boost myself up

[modern plaza]

114 alchemy lvl, 6 more to go 😄

[rustic garnet]

I'm on the same grind, up to 116!

[modern plaza]

gotta get ready for w6 lol...

[granite grove]

then keep magma for now, magma is best damage set possible in game rn, while kattlekruk is for utility (DR for boss, mob respawn for void run sample)

[modern plaza]

when is Expedition update!? tby monday???

[pure spindle]

Thats expected, off of what was said when it was announced

[granite grove]

no ETA

[pure spindle]

Could be pushed a few days into august though

[granite grove]

would be fine with some delays if not having sailing rollback electric boogaloo 2

[pure spindle]

Exactly

[rustic garnet]

what's that?

[granite grove]

a term for terrible sequel or reoccurence of an event

[rustic garnet]

oh infinite gold?

[valid wraith]

Hi. Why can't I use candy in world 5. It said too hot

[granite grove]

sailing rollback is that, yes

all new world will have candy disabled (decided by lava), which in this case is w5

and also rift for some reason

[modern plaza]

so like 1 or 2 months till the next rotation 😄

comon all prayers or all lab chips lava you know u want to give it

[opaque sun]

its too hot

[granite grove]

still hoping to get crystal crystard for that DR boost, or rams before end of season

or doot but realistically wont expect it because rng and my luck

[opaque sun]

need to wait for w6 to come out for the heat to dissipate

[valid wraith]

@opaque sun thanks

[fading cape]

gimme dem skull keys!!!!

[modern plaza]

u need this to use the candy in w5

[opaque sun]

That just adds humidity to make it worse

[granite grove]

theres a secret recipe with 1b ice buckets and 1 72hr candy to get a unique 1hr candy that can be used in w5

rumors said its dropped by killing tremor wurms at least 1b times and having at least x25 DR as a drop criteria

1/1b drop not listed in card

[graceful bramble]

Do i have to claim cogs with my DK or it doesn;t matter?

[modern plaza]

worms will be my first 1b kills on my entire account lol 😄

[granite grove]

soon^tm

[granite grove]

doesnt matter

[void badge]

2 BBs and 2 DK or 1 BB 3 DKs ?

I know, I know, 4 warriors, but I can't change it and I'm too far in

[dreamy igloo]

I would say 3dk for know and swap elite classes later

trying to level BB has been a nightmare compared to DK

[modern plaza]

put 3 squires into purple cogs when you want to spam click 😄

[opaque sun]

even a non squire should be like a 1 sec purple cog

[void badge]

leveling up a BB is cancer tho

Ill just switch eventually lol

ight 3 DKs

[dreamy igloo]

I made the mistake of using BB for mining lol and waited for lava to make an elite swap token for so long

[opaque sun]

he is okay at both mining and fishing

[dreamy igloo]

for sure I wanted to swap for better samples

[near coral]

I got a 5.3k nugget like 2+ months ago and haven’t ever seen anything above like 3k ever since. Is there something that affects nugget luck (other than the upgrade you buy with bits)? I know it’s luck based but holy shit I thought I would have found something higher within a couple months…

[opaque sun]

And with masteries, characters should level each skills anyway

[tacit tulip]

you roll a number, 1-1500ish, with the low numbers being incredibly more likely.

this number is then multiplied by your shovel %

So yes, the nugget stuff is just how it works

[dreamy igloo]

Nuggets suck lol

[opaque sun]

max roll of a nugget is like 1 in a billion or something

[near coral]

Ok thanks. I guess I’ll just keep rolling every day and praying for something better lol

[halcyon spoke]

If you swap BB to DK (just as an example). Will you keep leveled up skills? (As in, you keep the max levels gained from library)

[tacit tulip]

once you get chems you start rolling more often

which does help

but it's still pure rng

[near coral]

Yeah I still need to get chems 😦 got pine trees a couple weeks ago so hopefully chems soon…

[tacit tulip]

fwiw it took 6 months after getting my 10k nugg to get a 15k one haha

[bold quiver]

u can do it

[fading cape]

toolbox can show you your max nugget.

Though the chance of getting the max is probably zero. lol. I'm not even 1/6th of the max after months

I wish it showed like "chance to get 25% of that" or something

[bold quiver]

lets hope that islands update make it easier to get better nuggets

[wanton obsidian]

Does the 2nd bubble multiply the 1st bubble?

[bold quiver]

no

[wanton obsidian]

I could have sworn griffy said it doesn't

[fading cape]

It's a passive isn't it? Is it specially excluded?

[bold quiver]

yeah thats what im taking as parameter

[bold quiver]

yes specialy excluded. Probably because its lower than it

[fading cape]

hard to tell too because of all the other bonuses. If I up mine 3 times I get 5 stat from everything adding to it.

I just assumed it was coming from bubble 2

[bold quiver]

ill check right nown sec

[dreamy spruce]

bubble 17 multiplies it for sure

[bold quiver]

there is no way to check ....... cuz its total but its being added into some equation

[wanton obsidian]

Yes that one specifically does cuz it's said in the description 🤣

[bold quiver]

+2 on 1st bubble gave me +4 wisdom instead of 2

[plush spear]

It's might be the 17th bubbles?

[lost beacon]

Do you have to drop Cape on each character for N Kruk? I was trying to swap it over but its not working.

[bold quiver]

true forgot about that. Yeah it check then