lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[dreamy spruce]

cloak is wings

[tall dirge]

so what does x8 DR mean say if im going for a Dice obol from W2 crystals or a 1 in 20k drop

[worn trout]

Any recommendations on what kind of captains to keep or look out for?

[tall dirge]

i always pick up the green one he is pretty dam rare so i pick him up when i see em

[bold quiver]

Speed > Loot > Rare treasure > Artifact, something like this

then u just pick what u get from daily gamble

[tall dirge]

any one know the math on that dr question

[bold quiver]

the drop actual rate is that value divided by your DR

8x DR in 1/20k is 1/2,5k

but that is onscreen monsters, not multikill/deathnote/portal or whatever

so 1 monster killed onscreen is actualy 1 monster killed for that equation

[tall dirge]

i thought multikill affects ? sure feels like it does

[bold quiver]

multikill only affects monster material drop (1st on table)

its even written on hints

[proud pumice]

whats a better use of time candies, chow for bb/vman quest or skilling with maestro? Is there some good other use for candy besides these two that i'm not considering?

[tall dirge]

collecting 100 of batterys from w4? or waiting till they can be used on w5?

[proud pumice]

i mean i don't even have the recipe for the w4 splicer yet, so i won't do it now, but good to keep it in mind for later

[bold quiver]

My opinion priority order:
1st - Push portals for new world
2nd - Zow + Chow + Super chow on BB
Mid tier - Rift Mastery to 75
3rd - Skilling Cards
4th - Deathnote to 1B
5th - Green mush farming for cash

[proud pumice]

so you think chow is a little better than skilling for maestro?

[bold quiver]

i'd only use candy on skilling maestro IF i needed that to get 1st

otherwise its a waste of candy

[proud pumice]

skilling for maestro is for rift mastery progress, even tho its only baby steps for now

[tall dirge]

w4 splicer you'll deffo get at least 1 battery everytime you check on a character

[dreamy spruce]

is rift mastery the same as skill mastery?

[tall dirge]

75 mean 750 ?

[bold quiver]

yeah 75

[proud pumice]

thankfully i'm far away from trying to get w4 pets from breeding

[bold quiver]

the stopping points to me are 30 for passive cards, then 50 for 5% eff and then 75 for prints

oh yeah, the extra candy usage is for DNA lol, forgot about that

its more of a excess candy zone so not a priority

[proud pumice]

i guess i'll chow w1-w3 for now

maybe get w3 splicer recipe before chowing w3

[bold quiver]

true then u can get DNA, its huge dude

i didnt think about that when i did lol

ehe

[proud pumice]

but the 1 in 1.25m sounds like pain

[tall dirge]

nope

try 10m crawlers for the throphy

[bold quiver]

w3 pets are not important as w2 so u can skip if u want. but its nice

u dont need a single w3 pet to finish all spices battles + arena

in fact, unlocking alchemic pet BEFORE clearing arena is a pain

[tall dirge]

yet to finsh the final battle done the rest just dont get the rng

[bold quiver]

cuz u swap a 100% win run for a "if your pets die too soon u gotta retry

[tall dirge]

so back on topic of DR what should I be doing with my sb to rack in these kills for DR

[lapis mesa]

this stupid stick wont turn into a nut.. GAHH

[dreamy spruce]

Same

I stopped trying for now because its like a 1/300 chance for me

[lapis mesa]

im down to 1 in 50.. splice cost is getting a bit ridiculous

[dreamy spruce]

how much is it for you?

[lapis mesa]

like 50k

[dreamy spruce]

jeez, im only at 20k

[lapis mesa]

apologies!

30k

its whatever at this point, it can just build up while my bubo maxes out my cauldrons

[dreamy spruce]

yeah I decided to just not wait to fix spices until I have borgor and now I dont really need it anyway

[dense turtle]

whats the best map for farming plunderous mobs?

i guess citrins?

[lapis mesa]

flat map, sounds like a good idea

[tall dirge]

but something productive

cos i want that plundddy mobbby drop

but dont wanna stand around kill orangers boo!

[dreamy spruce]

Should I save up merit for atom collider or buy mob respawn? Have 380 x 6 oak log sample, 200k copper, but pretty decent stacks of em in chest

[lapis mesa]

mob spawn was my first one for each merit tab, so im biased

[bold quiver]

i love sigils!. I dont even know if im going to be alive in 71 days

[bold quiver]

i'd get atom collider. Mob respawn is not that great for w5 (in the point u are at

[dreamy spruce]

Why wouldnt oyu be? 71 days isnt that long

[bold quiver]

cuz if u active mob respawn is useless there

[stuck elbow]

same

[rustic garnet]

14.85x on my ES, and you can see where each one comes from

[bold quiver]

@dreamy spruce its 20% atom cost reduction. I think i'd get that over mob respawn.

[pulsar heart]

same

[bold quiver]

holy shit, 120days

[dreamy spruce]

thats quite a bit, thanks

[bold quiver]

oh cmon, 4% kkkkkkkkkkkkk lava is not kind on sigils

[rustic garnet]

They are good ones 🙂

[stable sinew]

Y’all think we will get island expeditions in the next few days?

[stuck elbow]

we need more sigil speed up bonuses

[rustic garnet]

This is quite literally just 'time' though

[bold quiver]

i thought about that first. But then i remember that almost all sigils suck

[stuck elbow]

well he said before end of the month so... maybe tmrw or this weekend

[stable sinew]

Yea that’s what I was thinking. Fingers crossed!

[frail mauve]

He said this month and there isn't much of the month left

[bold quiver]

drop rate one might be the only one actualy usefull

[stuck elbow]

if you really want drop rate, just level your DR pet lmao

[rustic garnet]

DR Pet?

[bold quiver]

gotta reach 18DR !!!

[rustic garnet]

shinies?

[stuck elbow]

yes shiny

[bold quiver]

i can reach 18DR if i get 450 n my vman (but wont happen soon

[rustic garnet]

What is VMan's bonus to DR?

[stuck elbow]

-total dmg more DR?

[bold quiver]

yeah

[little pagoda]

I really can only unlink twice a week across the whole account? That`s bullshit lol

[stuck elbow]

just level up the green talent bubble

[bold quiver]

its the fun of divinity!. Before we could only unlink once

1per week was total bullshit. 2 per week is very solid

[stuck elbow]

ya 2 is good

imagine 1 a week

[little pagoda]

2 isn`t solid when you're just starting out

[stuck elbow]

unfortunately, i didn't have to imagine

sadge

[rustic garnet]

2 per week is fine, but now that if you get doot you don't need to, I feel like lifting the cap for the dootless would be the least he could do

[bold quiver]

it is because u are starting out that is very solid haha

[brazen hound]

so a guy like this is worthless for getting loot, coz I cant upgrade loot space. But is he still as good for discovering artifacts? Ship can go fast back n forth to islands with undiscovered artifacts.
OR does it need inventory space to discover artifacts too

[lapis mesa]

i had w5 for a whole week before he changed it to 2 😄

[bold quiver]

late game u dont even unlink anymore

[little pagoda]

Basically locked out of sampling if you`re not constantlky on the afk gains god

[bold quiver]

u do 6 haeriph 4 omniphau and forget divinity exists

[lapis mesa]

not locked out, just not ultra uber optimal

[rustic garnet]

once you 1b every mob, you can turn off nobisect forever, basically

[little pagoda]

30% is huge when the best you can do without is 90%

[bold quiver]

For example: Many people cry about doot this doot that. But they dont look outside the picture of what lava did there.

[sweet palm]

Did bubo poison damage get adjusted? Mine went from static ticks to all over the place.... randomly stopped 1 shotting some mobs.

[bold quiver]

Before we would have to wait 2 weeks to do a "half decent" relinking so we could sample

[rustic garnet]

The picture of what he did? 2 unlinks is still crap, it's just less awful than 1 unlink

[bold quiver]

now u can wait the same 2 weeks and do a sampling swapping players to goat properly so u take advantage of the extra afk gains there

its huge for game progression

if i had had acess to 2 unlinks before i'd have progressed so much faster

[rustic garnet]

imagine if all your chars could just be linked to all the gods at once, that'd be huge

[bold quiver]

sry i pay attention to the whole picture and f2p experience as a whole

i couldnt care less about possible benefits of companions or not

[near mist]

How to get shiny in breeding?

[rustic garnet]

The QoL the compansions added are way too good to leave out of F2P

[bold quiver]

Game has always had p2w benefits, never mattered for progression, still doesnt

[rustic garnet]

the chest anywhere? That has been promised for a long time

Doot helps progression, crazy talk to say it doesn't

[bold quiver]

yeah, like the afk wings, helmet, drop rate wings, etc............. very funny

they are insne for progression

[rustic garnet]

Those are not QoL buffs

and they are small compared to anything really

[bold quiver]

by the huge amount of gem perks u can buy also early game and moonshoot your gameplay

[rustic garnet]

50% exp gain? dwarfed by GT

[bold quiver]

forgot about those?

[rustic garnet]

Gems are farmable by F2P

[pine pond]

yes we do

[bold quiver]

find me a f2p person with a fresh acc that has bnought all gem perks and is at w4

[rustic garnet]

Why do I care?

[bold quiver]

wake up dude, the game already had insane speed progression for p2w since w1

[dreamy spruce]

rift wings made me zoom through w3/w4 so much faster

[rustic garnet]

I don't care if someone bought all the gem packs

[bold quiver]

get arguments straight

[pastel heath]

lol i got acient and still no 4th artifact

[rustic garnet]

Doot is something F2P can't get in a reasonable timeframe

[pine pond]

people are trying to rush to w5 boss with 1b damage then spending 2 hours killing kattle trying to get wings to drop...

then rushing to world 5, then not going back to do alchemy or anything lese?

[rustic garnet]

lol good luck to them

[pine pond]

else?

[pastel heath]

at least do it with 10 bil

[pine pond]

like what

[bold quiver]

its worth lol

[pine pond]

i know someone who skipped printer completley

nah

lazy

xD

as an OG player, i think its sad

[rustic garnet]

doing W5 rush boss for wings? I mean, never gonna get it

[pine pond]

you need w5 bonuses jsut to think your good

[rustic garnet]

and even if they did, heh

[pine pond]

lelele

people relying on skiipping progression then back tracking

its so funny

[bold quiver]

i mean, amount of power required to strictly push worlds is very low so...

[pine pond]

wish i had it this easy.

[bold quiver]

yep, people dont realize u cant backtrack lol

[pine pond]

i mean you can, but its honestly slower.

[bold quiver]

all areas thatlock u out of power increase are time gated. So people are trying to backtrack time lost

[pine pond]

you spend 2 weeks to rush to w5, but if you actually took time and put that time into stamp collecting alchemy etc, you can push w5 in a week instead of 2

[bold quiver]

exactly

[dreamy spruce]

you should look at Nyxon

[bold quiver]

they dont realize that properly speedrunning is doing everything faster than neglecting

[dreamy spruce]

w5, no mman, garbage alch and everything

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkk

existing at w5

[rustic garnet]

At some point, that's sorta the point of this chat

to help those players

[pine pond]

exactly, no mman players at w5

i reached world 3 before even joining this discord.

[bold quiver]

guy is a lost cause

[pine pond]

i didnt have help

help your self

on Idleon.wiki.com

[bold quiver]

exactly

[rustic garnet]

Does Nyxon not want help?

[pine pond]

lol

[rustic garnet]

Are you sure he's not just trolling at this point then?

[dreamy spruce]

very unsure lol

[bold quiver]

to me he has been trolling ages ago

[dreamy spruce]

more than 50% chance hes a troll

[pine pond]

hey how do i get more damage?

🤤

😭

[strong crag]

Alchemy

[pine pond]

perfect xD

[rustic garnet]

I'm at a point where alchemy feels very slow and I am just doing the x atoms per day

I'm not missing something am I?

[strong crag]

hourly clicks

[dreamy spruce]

im just waiting for liquids :{

[bold quiver]

can u atom the last bubbles?

they are the strongest for dmg at least

[bold quiver]

hmm not yet then

[pine pond]

thanks that helped

[strong crag]

What's your damage at?

[rustic garnet]

? I can, clearly

[dreamy spruce]

isnt that more than 100M?

[rustic garnet]

yes, it is

[bold quiver]

no like, u cant 50x click that daily haha

[rustic garnet]

You are not good with your words or numbers my dude

[dreamy spruce]

damn nice

[bold quiver]

assumed it was implied lol

[pine pond]

🤤

[bold quiver]

see? always work!

[rustic garnet]

can you atom the last bubble -- yes -- and I get enough atoms per day to do so

[pine pond]

shore does

[rustic garnet]

I've been pushing other bubbles as I haven't seen a strat of 'these are the best to push per day' yet

[bold quiver]

then u should do it per day, 50x there is very important until 90%-95% cap

[tall dirge]

@nate im looking on ie players > random stats cant find drop rate

[dreamy spruce]

does dmg do anything if you can do nm kattle tho?

[rustic garnet]

go to IT

[bold quiver]

not rly

only faster deathnote

and faster gmush farming

[rustic garnet]

https://idleontoolbox.com/characters ->stats clicked

[dreamy spruce]

so atoming skill bubbles make more sense

[rustic garnet]

I think so pimere

[bold quiver]

No

[pine pond]

if you can hourly click it, no

[bold quiver]

U have to choose your pack

[rustic garnet]

The idea here is you get 1000 per hour

[bold quiver]

one pack is the dmg maniacs, other pack is the 3d sample maniacs

[rustic garnet]

and just click every alch that is on print?

[pine pond]

yeah

[rustic garnet]

cool will give it a try

[dreamy spruce]

im gonna become a sampling maniac, but not quite there yet

[pine pond]

true

[rustic garnet]

Do you recommend: ?

[bold quiver]

kkkkk yeah gotta pick one!

[pine pond]

should be hourly clicked end game

[modern acorn]

Where's the best place to farm po pens?

[rustic garnet]

ok any others?

[pine pond]

all stat bubbles

[bold quiver]

hey, isnt that a slacker log print compared to ore? or are u at the point where suposedly ore starts getting higher than log?

[rustic garnet]

obv not?

[pine pond]

w2 sand pots if you want fragments and glass shards, or bloodbones.

[outer plank]

yo is there a "best" class for completing the rift skulls challenge?

[pine pond]

oh no thats correct. 😛 i focus more on logs then mining

[modern acorn]

So in case I want glass shards too go sandy pots ight thanks

[rustic garnet]

what's a good set of hourly clicks?

[tall dirge]

@rustic garnet i dont get how to log into this site :S

[rustic garnet]

err?

are you on mobile?

[tall dirge]

decktop

[rustic garnet]

and the game is on desktop too?

[bold quiver]

@pine pond didu mean focus more on ore than logs? cuz it should be like this

[rustic garnet]

top right should have a login

[bold quiver]

ore is half logs

[dreamy spruce]

should be same as logging into IE

[pine pond]

look above

[tall dirge]

ahhh got it working

[bold quiver]

i see makes sense now kkkkkkkk

[rustic garnet]

Demon, any other hourly click printed ones? I only see 2

[pine pond]

i have 6 there

[rustic garnet]

ok, which 6?

[pine pond]

and then 7 every 2hours

[dreamy spruce]

thats 4 already

[pine pond]

log, bleach, jungle, toilet, copper, iron, plat, dementia (2 hours)

[bold quiver]

dont u lose too many atoms on that setup?

[pine pond]

so 7 hourly

[proud pumice]

ran out of candies at mamooth still got 31 chows, good enough, going to do the rest the old fashioned way

[pine pond]

hourly clicking is more important then atoms 😛

thats why i have 11b copper

lol

[bold quiver]

not if u wanna grind those trillions for 2nd atom collider

[rustic garnet]

Do the W5 chows the old way

[pine pond]

fuck that one

im not worried about it

its a shit bonus

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkk cost on that one is a joke

[proud pumice]

with this damage it will only take one millenium lol

[pine pond]

i still get a good 300k atoms a day

so im good

[bold quiver]

decent, enough to upgrade any bubble but last

[rustic garnet]

it wouldn't take years

you would get exp doing them and other things

[bold quiver]

last is 335k daily

[rustic garnet]

you'd probably benefit most from a Bubo pushing your GT up though

[pine pond]

focusing early bubbles rn, so its not a concern.

[bold quiver]

yep, i switched to Diamond chef for a few days cuz i wanna do a big cooking sesssion

[proud pumice]

yeah, i'm doing the w3 first because its also a pre requisite for the vman quest

[tall dirge]

@rustic garnet where on it is drop rates?

[pine pond]

he not wrong

[rustic garnet]

go to characters then click stats

[bold quiver]

but im doing a setup right now for this . So i can say that it will be huge

[pine pond]

its not as big as you think 😛

but it does help a bit.

[dreamy spruce]

is GT linear bubble?

[bold quiver]

let me dream ! yeah only want a few 100s there

[pine pond]

yes

GT linear

[dreamy spruce]

nice

[rustic garnet]

yip, and only costs liquid

[dreamy spruce]

liquid the most expensive thing for me rn :|

[tall dirge]

ahh wounderfulll tyvm

[bold quiver]

good stopping point

[dreamy spruce]

gotta go to 2023 now

[rustic garnet]

why is that a good stopping point?

[bold quiver]

2020

[pine pond]

5k now 😛

[bold quiver]

no way! that would mean actualy playing bubo

[pine pond]

yep. lose some keys to work on grind time

[rustic garnet]

may I suggest: More more more

[pine pond]

its a win win tbh

[bold quiver]

lose keys? what do u mean

[pine pond]

no no no

[pine pond]

oh i guess u not farming keys

[rustic garnet]

you get less keys doing bubo over DK

[bold quiver]

oh yeah, im done with key farming for a long time already.

[pine pond]

i wanna quit it

but cand

cant

[bold quiver]

already have 3 trophy + 14 obols + 10 neck

[pine pond]

actually i may stop tonight

[tall dirge]

was woundering whats the best thing to do, if you wanna get plund mob kills aka active sb

[pine pond]

^

[bold quiver]

SB is better overal at tremor wurms to farm keys

he gets more keys than ES and u get drop rate

its a very decent trade off

[rustic garnet]

cry, but citrines

[pine pond]

ES???

why es

what

never ES

what

[bold quiver]

why not?

[rustic garnet]

Demon, he refuses to play anything but ES

[pine pond]

lmfaooooo

[bold quiver]

i never farmed keys on ES tho, but i had to test

[tall dirge]

how could he be better then bubo at wurms

[bold quiver]

he farm more keys

[pine pond]

gimme a week

[rustic garnet]

Demon, best key farm is DK?

[bold quiver]

almost the same as mine

[pine pond]

DK > Bubo > SB > ES

in my opinion

[rustic garnet]

and always on wurms?

[pine pond]

ofc

[bold quiver]

other places for rare loot ES wins

[rustic garnet]

I might fire up my SB just to push pluderous

[proud pumice]

overall? why SB>ES?

[pine pond]

unless you can do the full portal for ES with midas on. go ahead.

[rustic garnet]

ES is just bad for key farming

[pine pond]

^

i get maybe 30/ hour on ES

[rustic garnet]

It's good for most things, just not for keys

[pine pond]

but 50-60 on bubo

[dreamy spruce]

why? because wurms have so much hp?

[proud pumice]

hm

[pine pond]

midas + ES bad

[bold quiver]

Last map requires too much DMG to get a good portal score, so ES cant rly keep up

[rustic garnet]

wurms don't go as high in portal rifts

[proud pumice]

that makes sense

[bold quiver]

and DK for some reason can farm 80 keys per hour, figures

then u throw him at pearls and he is deadgarbage

[pine pond]

wym

my DK is great on pearls

[bold quiver]

mine sucked, cant even compare to ES

[pine pond]

ah

i mean

im to the point i just candy pearls now

[bold quiver]

yeah kkkkkkkk

i found that out a few days ago

pearls golden twine, batteries

u just candy

[pine pond]

other then this, theres nothing else to put candy into

[fading dust]

Hey Nitiz, any good use for liquids if my samples cant sustain leveling up my bubbles anymore? Currently dumping my liquid into GT rn until I can resample

[bold quiver]

yeah dump on GT

or dont, it doesnt rly matter

[pine pond]

level up cap or rate, and grind time

[bold quiver]

i reach lvl 450 on my chracters with a lvl 400GT

[pine pond]

lol

how hard was that

😛

[bold quiver]

easy, less than a day '.'

[pine pond]

ah

how

wtf

[bold quiver]

on the main charactres, not BM/BB/VMAN

they suck

[pine pond]

oh

thats why

[bold quiver]

yea, i stopped those at 425

[pine pond]

my BB has 80x class exp atm.

[dreamy spruce]

jesus

[bold quiver]

it was very fast also, less than a day to each

from 390 to 425

[pine pond]

ah

[bold quiver]

but for them i leveled GT to 1500 so it helped a little

[pine pond]

i started farming plunderous a few days ago, and my SB went from 413-473 in 2-3 days.

[dreamy spruce]

whats ur highest lvl Demon? with a gt of 10k

[pine pond]

525

[bold quiver]

pretty good i'd say. After 450 its a hurdle

[pine pond]

my bubo gets almost a full level overnight.

its slowly getting slower

[fading dust]

Damn, once you get to 300-350 leveling gets so slow

[bold quiver]

gimme overnight gameplay!

[fading dust]

W5 is so nice for getting levels

[pine pond]

yeah

till you get to 450 xD

then its zzzz

[bold quiver]

yeah 450+ is hell

[pine pond]

even with my 10k grind time

it takes a while

[bold quiver]

i wanna see how big of an impact will 10k GT have on W6 exp curve. yay

[pine pond]

But check the prayers

🤤

[bold quiver]

decent

266M is very standar without the afk gains one

wait holy shit, i realized 62% afk gains

yeah.......... thats huge

[pine pond]

😛

[bold quiver]

forget about decent

[pine pond]

13 dreadlo

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/priest-preist-cross-praying-pray-gif-19977326

[pine pond]

lele

thats my SB

[bold quiver]

i wish we could check drop rate effect on gold at afk info , would be nice

after 15DR the next breakpoint is 17DR right?

every 2

i stuck here now, gona finish that monster vial somehow

[sick sentinel]

pattern looked like every 2

[plush gale]

It's over, it's finally over...

[dreamy spruce]

Grats!

[dapper prism]

Level up liquid regen levels 😄

[dreamy spruce]

Should I be upgrading these (boats 2-4) or saving for 1st boat?

[rustic garnet]

upgrade them all equally, with first boat a bit higher

like first boat can be double cost than rest as you want a boat for 300 boat req

[dapper prism]

Eh, i'd always say level them 1 by 1 to breakpoints..

Use IE to see the breakpoints

[rustic garnet]

sure breakpoints are a great idea

[dreamy spruce]

Will do that then, thanks!

[dapper prism]

every 8th upgrade on loot, 7th on speed is when there's a big jump

[rustic garnet]

focus on speed/loot captains

and swap in artifct/speed or rare chest later

rare chest is ~ sometimes

[dapper prism]

1x captain with speed+cloud to unlock new islands is nice

[rustic garnet]

yep

[dreamy spruce]

alright, thanks

[hidden sphinx]

Anyone got a link to the calculator for plant evolutions?

[dapper prism]

#endgame-gen-chat message

[eager zinc]

which char with you guys farm Obol of Pop on?

[outer plank]

ES

is there a "best" way or optimal way to do gaming? I usually just click harvest all but I don't think thats the best way. Is there a quick guide on collection priority or upgrade priority?

[lost beacon]

Let your bushes and trees get to max tier, harvest all, unless have Chem

[tall dirge]

i'mm tryna click the shield with a pen, but nothing happening

[lost beacon]

Use bigger cactus first to trigger evolution on smaller cactii in range

[lost beacon]

Has to be at 5

[outer plank]

what is max tier plant?

[lost beacon]

Whatever your max evolution for that plant in the Log Book

[tall dirge]

ahh tyvm @lost beacon

wait when i refresh at 5 shield to leave something not done for reset... it adds 1 shield

[outer plank]

So out of this logbook, should i only harvest the plants that are the furthest in the book?

aka this guy

[bright current]

fellas, whats the best bubbles besides base stat ones & final purple one to get my Vmans damage up

[lost beacon]

Harvest all, Trees and Bushes are next two evolutions you unlock

[outer plank]

I'm confused, do I just collect cactis for a few days and then harvest all?

[nimble yarrow]

is there somewhere you can see how much xp each level requires?

[outer plank]

I don't even have those yet D:

does it not really matter what i do rn since i dont have those evos unlocked?

[lost beacon]

You want to optimize cactus to get as many of your plants as possible. Sometimes selectively harvesting plants to place others around your cactus by using the sprinkler to grow plants helps.

[outer plank]

sounds good to me, thank you

[outer plank]

hol up placement matters??

[lost beacon]

Plants can't spawn on top of thsoe

So you can control where the plants go, same with harvesting and sprouting new plants. They go where the holes are.

[outer plank]

good to know ty

will the new mutation chance ever go above 10%?

[lost beacon]

It's not worth letting your mutation percentage get too high.

For Chem at the end I Researched every time I got to .1%

[sick sentinel]

The genes for researching new plants diminishes really fast

Spamming lower is better like camf said

[outer plank]

poerfect lol

[outer plank]

when did they say that? i missed it

[sick sentinel]

Here

[outer plank]

whats chem

[lost beacon]

Chemical plant, last unlock

[outer plank]

did not know that

so for unlocking new mutations, how often should i "research"

[lost beacon]

Thats where the gains really take off. One night I got stuck in a 4 hour Chem train - 4 hours of straight gaming.

[steep cipher]

ive been trying to unlock chem for 2 months now

[sick sentinel]

Usually when you clear the board once its good to research

[worthy helm]

At the point ur at should prob do 5-10%

Then 1% them 0.1%

[outer plank]

okiedoke

i usually try around 8-9% so ill stick with that

thank you very much for the help, ive been trying to figure out gaming for a bit now

[lost beacon]

I learned the hard way. Streets are real.

[dreamy smelt]

What’s the best difficulty to farm strung tooth of the divine?

[lost beacon]

Mercy

[indigo vector]

My DMG goes down like 30% but only when I'm fighting cheese nubs for some reason

[runic girder]

Dk?

[lime kiln]

probably lactose intolerance

[dreamy smelt]

Mercy?

[indigo vector]

Yea I'm dk

[fast grail]

prob dont have the 1.5x accurarcy needed for damage skill

[lost beacon]

Thats when you pray to the RNGesus

[indigo vector]

Oh true

Ty

I was using acc prayer but it doesn't count that

So I still had 100% hit rate

[dreamy smelt]

I’m thinking chaotic

[dapper prism]

Different based on what you're refering to?

Class or skill, and what did you want to check?

[fast grail]

For sanity chaotic prob best if you dont have lots of keys, but technically per key used normal will get you the most pendents

[dreamy smelt]

Mmmm right 100,000/5 is less than the 1/28k drop

[oak pawn]

Do you need to have the divinities unlocked for doot to work on them?

[silver comet]

No

[fast grail]

Dont think so for the main bonuses, but you do for the minor bonuses

[oak pawn]

Okay ty

[nimble yarrow]

skill xp and just trying to see how much to get to a certain level from where i am at

[surreal oxide]

yea active bubo

[gray thicket]

That hurts to see

[dapper prism]

Depends on the skill too. some skills like div have way different xp graphs compared to w1-2 skills.

If you let me know your current lvl, xp rate and desired level i can toss you all the times

[lavish quiver]

Hourly clicking cranium now nice

Around what level towers would you say acorn assault req. for wave 111 for prayer

[twilit goblet]

rift 26 (stamp) should i just go do soemthing else and come back when i have double the dmg? or just afk with more chars

[dapper prism]

YAYYYY 🥳 MY LAST ELDRITCH ARTIFACT!
Got to W5 on 3rd of April, Finished Sailing Artifacts today, July 27th.
https://i.imgur.com/YDobKFO.png
https://i.imgur.com/FRPZXiZ.png

[lavish quiver]

Nice, i got like the last 4 left to do then im done

[dapper prism]

Nice

[dapper prism]

Some of the last ones are really just meh, even though i stopped going for artis for a little i just wanted to finish it and be done with it

[barren otter]

i need 3 more

[lavish quiver]

Yea i got the steak which is nice, the rest are meh except the mk one i think would be pretty helpful still

[dapper prism]

mk one is nice indeed

[eager zinc]

Is there a way to farm obol shards faster?

[graceful bramble]

Does killing stronger mobs affect cranium cooking?

[dapper prism]

DK at bloodbones maxed crystal rate, choco chip etc

[eager zinc]

ty

[dapper prism]

Crystals help with it

[sick sentinel]

Mob count and crystal chance help cranium

[graceful bramble]

What's the best map for it? I am still figuring it out, I can only one shot W3 stuff

Not rams tho 🥹

[dapper prism]

Depends on dmg

[graceful bramble]

2m range, ddirt low

[dapper prism]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

[sick sentinel]

Probably staches or ram (dunno if 2 hard)

[dapper prism]

Stache -> TV -> Cans -> Floms -> Citringe -> wurms afaik

[barren otter]

that was faster than snelbies for you?

snelbies was insane obol frag farm for me

[dapper prism]

Snelbie/pots is just for dice obol, for most fragments alrthough annoying it should be bloodbone?

as blood does way higher pens

[little pagoda]

How high do I need cranium cooking bubble before actually trying to do it?

[lavish quiver]

I got way more frags in w2 due to the gold luck ones that drop all the time

[wind umbra]

nahh w2 you get silver and gold obols which give more frags

w3 only has bronze obols

[barren otter]

well its more so cause dice shards for a lot more frags

[dapper prism]

You should do it daily once or twice either way, its not about your CC bubble but more about getting your max talent 200+ for tente. Then there's a lot of stuff that add up like PO box gives 30s of CC

[barren otter]

i also never really paid attention to how many frags i get at bloodbones so im not sure

[little pagoda]

Bubble is a huge bonus though, I have it on +52% duration -52% cooldown

[dapper prism]

Well yeh, it is, but still it's all about hitting 200+ tente

Since 200+ tente increases the time reduction per kill from 2s to 3s which makes your insta rezz proc nearly non stop

[lavish quiver]

Id be shocked it blood got more frags cause all the silver and gold you get in w2

[fallow aurora]

does this talent get snapshotted when your placing traps? or does it need to be leveled when your collecting

[little pagoda]

That artifact is gonna take me so long lol, but yeah trying to get that to 200

[pine pond]

when collecting

[fallow aurora]

ty

[barren otter]

yea thats what i was thinking W2 is insane for frags

[little pagoda]

Is there anything else that increases chest slots in sailing other than gem shop?

I never have more than 4 chests

[fallow aurora]

it applies to all chars right?

[dapper prism]

idk i just tracked+timed it twice (for around 15 or 30ish mins, forgot) and although i recall bloodbone being better frag rate it was also way more tedious due to filling up on obol slots non stop

[lavish quiver]

Blood was just pens for me

[pine pond]

of course

[fallow aurora]

ty

[dapper prism]

Guess ima put that on my to-do and double check someday soon xD

[graceful bramble]

I only got 5k seconds in starches 😦

I was one shotting them, am i missing something?

[dapper prism]

Also, my comparison was just blood vs pots (not snelbie) so could be the difference there.

[lavish quiver]

Yea, also the bronze obols don't benefit from the +20% frags they just stay at 1, where silver and gold both went up ... saying if you have that achievement

[dapper prism]

200+ tente, proper ability bar maybe, etc?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1125251335164534804/bubosetup.png

also wear fists (boxing gloves) if doing flat maps-aura stuff

I honestly always use the 2nd bar there,

[graceful bramble]

Ah, my tentacle sucks, lv132

[dapper prism]

200 tente makes time reduction go from 2s to 3s. So later on it will look something like this:

(thats with manually setting up the map slightly first)

[graceful bramble]

Holy fking shit, thats insane

Ahhhh, you are playing yourself after activating CC, I just left it on auto on starches 🤦‍♂️

[fallow aurora]

wtf how much alchemy time are you skipping

[eager zinc]

when I get the 3 big ones its the best it can be right?

[dapper prism]

Yes if you mean DR, besides more guardian square ones 😄

[dapper prism]

huh, no i just setup the area with aura and gas then turn on auto and let the rest do its thing, but usually i dont setup a map

[eager zinc]

yea cant really rush then guardian ^^

i did spent a bit of candy get there., but it was a 2x DR upgrade

[barren otter]

theres hyper circle obols...

if youre willing to buy those

[eager zinc]

I think I'll pass on buying them ^^

[noble cradle]

can anyone show me a good spec for active vman? do i invest in crystal countdown?

[pulsar cliff]

I guess to answer that I'd need to know why you're activing him.

[noble cradle]

want to mainly level hin to be able to get further in speedrun i guess

[pulsar cliff]

I don't think adding more levels will really help contribute a significant amount of progress for speed run. Crystal Countdown is good if you're trying to get your skill levels up on tricky things (Looking at you, trapping and summoning)

[noble cradle]

do i max crystal countdown or just 1 point?

[pulsar cliff]

Max it, it got fixed awhile ago lol

[leaden karma]

what colo should i do and also what character to use?

[noble cradle]

well its been a while since i gave him some love ^^'

[lapis mesa]

does anyone happen to know cauldron cost around the lvl 160s? just want to see how far itll scale up, i assume when its maxed it no longer shows the value

[sick sentinel]

The boosts?

[noble cradle]

does happy dude synergise with crystal countdown?

[lapis mesa]

yeah i didnt find the value on the wiki

[rigid canopy]

crystal countdown lowers the exp cap, and happy dude increases exp gains so yeah

[lapis mesa]

DK wins the colo, always.. which one is just want you want

[leaden karma]

ohhhh, tnx a lot!

[vestal yew]

is 37k on the cranium cooking considered low?

for cooldown

[noble cradle]

another question... if i want to level voidwalker skills... do i actually go do the skilling or do i fight and level over crystal countdown?

[tall notch]

Damn i need to resample

Motivation near 0 to do it tho

[lyric sequoia]

The cooldown on CC doesn't mean much with 3s tent, once you get into 1 shot territory on every mob on the screen you'll have CC active every 10mins or so

[barren otter]

it is worth it to use countdown for certain skills like worship and fishing

[pulsar cliff]

Question! For dungeons: Difference between Dungeon Credits, Dungeon Money, Dungeon Flurbos.

I assumed Credits and Money would've been the same but idk

[lapis mesa]

oof, appreciate you

im avging like 60 mil a cc, im sure itll go up a little bit as i level speed but man thats going to take a minute

[hidden gale]

Dungeon money - cash for upgrades, that run only

Dungeon Credits - in-dungeon upgrades

Dungeon Flurbos - out-of-dungeon stats and gear

[lapis mesa]

aha! i did a thing.. now to make it silly

[eager zinc]

now just a few hundred more 😄

[sharp wind]

170 max for bubble cauldron

Water cauldron probably infinite

[pulsar cliff]

Awesome, thank you!

[wanton obsidian]

How much dmg do I need to go from rift 0 to 16

[chrome lantern]

When should i start saving for the pong one in gaming

My bit multiplier rn is 321m

I dont see any big boosts that are close rn but i dint when rlse to push

[sick sentinel]

pong is barely worth it

if u can get it easily sure, otherwise its not necessary

[opaque sun]

at most like 1 day worth of saving. If it takes longer, just upgrade other stuff

[random saddle]

May i know why my robotic arm for anvil crafting does get auto store?

How does it work

[sick sentinel]

only works at reset if its full

[random saddle]

Oh wow so i need to invest into capp too?

[opaque sun]

basically you will need a smith cap that lasts a full day worth of smithing

[random saddle]

Aaaa

[opaque sun]

Usually getting material bags is enough tho

[sick sentinel]

easier to keep an eye on the smithing tab on IE

[random saddle]

My email is gone

Im forever bind to this phone and cant accesd to ie

[opaque sun]

Smith cap is your mob material bag cap multiplied by whatever cap% from anvil upgrade

[random saddle]

I see nice

Gg my mman should be the highest lvl on all skill even like smith and alche?

[sick sentinel]

nah

[opaque sun]

smith and alch doesnt have efficiency so doesnt matter much

[sick sentinel]

those dont have efficiency and its next to impossible to alch

[random saddle]

I have no idea why my newest char has the highest alch lvl

[sick sentinel]

is it a mage

[random saddle]

I see

Ya mage

[sick sentinel]

does it have teh specialized skill exp talent on the mage page specced more often than the others

[opaque sun]

Trap is affected by efficiency, but scales bad so not too detrimental if mman surpasses. Similar to worship where the food effect is a bigger impact than efficiency

[sick sentinel]

also liquid or sigils give 2x exp

if they are on those

[random saddle]

Oh

So mman lvl is impt only for w1 and 2 skills

[sick sentinel]

pretty much

[fresh plank]

What's the best class for candy-clearing 1bil kills with? ES?

Also should wait to eldrich this before candying? 🤡

[sick sentinel]

the way to do it would prob be to do your superchows first

then use either ES or SB

ES gets better worship charge and can use bigger candies without waste

SB for small candies to boost forge production and better anvil

[fresh plank]

Ohhh that's right, candy hrs dont matter for SB

[sick sentinel]

ES can also have highest kph with that mana talent ye

[fresh plank]

Is it worth to wait for the trilobite rock tho?

[sick sentinel]

25 per tier is pretty good to have

whats your kph looking like rn

[fresh plank]

Yeah, prolly gon wait then, have tons of candies to waste

[sick sentinel]

did you already do w1 and 2?

[fresh plank]

Nah, Im gathering anvil upgrade materials

[sick sentinel]

ah ok

i'd consider doing deathnote w1 when ur around 2-3mil gmush

and def work on your skulls before 1B

if u havent already

[fresh plank]

Oh, already done 1.2bil mush cuz of the green thumb thing

Everything else is lacking tho

All 5m kills xD

[sick sentinel]

did u do 100mil on all w1?

ah

[fresh plank]

Should I do 100m each first?

[sick sentinel]

ye

[fresh plank]

That'd boost the kills?

[sick sentinel]

get that extra mk/tier

[fresh plank]

Ohhh oke

[sick sentinel]

some mobs like wood mush and bleh

maybe carrots and red mush too

[fresh plank]

I think I can just afk at woodmush when I can on ES

For the portal kills and statues

[sick sentinel]

u do u

i didnt want to active that map much so i just candied when i had bigger boosts

[fresh plank]

I'd do it last if I have candy left, but I dont think I have enough candies to 1bil through w1~4 xD

[spring ingot]

How does one get over 50% x2 exp chance?

Biggie hours 5* is 18%

[sick sentinel]

looks like a bribe, guild bonus

i thought there was a PO box too

[spring ingot]

hmm I see thanks I'll look into it

[sick sentinel]

big z crate on second tab

[lavish quiver]

Card, Post Office, Alchemy, Bribe, Guild

[lost beacon]

theres an alch bubble

[spring ingot]

Looks like I'll be stuck on mantra for a while

don't have some of the stuff

Maybe like a 38% chance max

[sharp igloo]

Can the midnight stopwatch recipe drop from the slush in the w3 colosseum? The website says the drop rate is 1/16. I have over 10x droprate and just killed him like 20 times and got nothin

[surreal oxide]

how is this possible

[sick sentinel]

the whole loottable should be available for mini bosses in colo

just unlucky i guess

[sick sentinel]

rift slug lets you fly

[sharp igloo]

Weird, guess Ill keep trying

[worthy helm]

Does no more praying superbit just delete curses altogether?

[buoyant valley]

Kinda, but its not worth

[worthy helm]

No i mean even with prayer equipped

[opaque sun]

it also delete the giant spawning as thats also a curse

when you have any prayer equipped, “no prayer” doesnt take effect obviously

if it removes the curse all together, why would you no prayer

[worthy helm]

Well thats weird then i got over 10h with the prayer equipped and got the afk over 10h

[buoyant valley]

Possibly visual bug

[worthy helm]

I did get the stuff so kinda not

[opaque sun]

character selection screen will say what ever hrs, but when you claim it, it will go to 10hrs

[worthy helm]

The xp and kills equivalent for it at least

It was on the claim thing

If it goes over the claim screen should stop at 10h like it always has

[opaque sun]

maybe it was the other red prayer you thought it was unending

[worthy helm]

What other

[opaque sun]

there are some othwr prayer that looks red which may look a bit like unending prayer

[worthy helm]

Well if it helps with bug spotting my first character has no prayers and the rest has unending

First claimed with first then the rest

[opaque sun]

You maybe onto something, but the info is bit too ambiguous atm

[worthy helm]

Well i'll come back in around 10h to see if happens again

[opaque sun]

Not many people have experimented around going no prayer as it sucks in general

[worthy helm]

I dont really have many prayers that help my guy at fishing lol

[opaque sun]

The more endgame you are, the cost of removing royal sample becomes too big

[worthy helm]

Heh never used that

Should start doing that at some point

[opaque sun]

thats kind of a issue, you definitely should

Like its a pure multiplier of 1.5x ish more samples

[worthy helm]

My samples are a ok atm

[opaque sun]

not using royal samplers is always a “not okay samples”

[worthy helm]

Got good alch bubbles and refinery covered

Might start using it once i get it to a decent lv

I guess ill post somethin bout it on bug reports once i get proof

[vagrant mountain]

royal sampler op

[worthy helm]

Should it be video or image proof?

[fresh plank]

What's the best obols for monster etc printing?

[worthy helm]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTwHA01izqS966YzHnVLf6T2VSR-6CHlMwAOiZNzVXnM93UE8zcXVaJIMiY64W8YgQz-IiqcHrwyfU7/pubhtml# this should have it i think

[void badge]

Dis gonna be a fast af boi

[fresh plank]

Lucky roll

[worthy helm]

All i get on purples is cloud discover smh

[opaque sun]

For mob may printing, multikill obols is theoretically best, but issue is a full board multikill would maybe add like 1 more mat to a 600k sample

[vagrant mountain]

main stat probably better than multikill

[opaque sun]

so usually people dont bother trying yo raise mob mat samples with an obol

The tab 4 kill per kill type effect doesnt increase samples

[vagrant mountain]

meant for pushing dmg

[worthy helm]

Multikill obols are a flat increase right?

Not per tier

So not worth

[vagrant mountain]

yeah not really worth it

[opaque sun]

if you can get next tier, stat obols for damage, if not the flat multikill

[void badge]

they are really good for slab 🙂

[worthy helm]

All they good for

[fresh plank]

Guess obols dont really matter much in printing ;o

[opaque sun]

But anyway i wouldnt recommend trying to push mob samples with obols

[fresh plank]

Aside from the t5 boss obol

w5*

[worthy helm]

Yup

[vagrant mountain]

full page of these

[opaque sun]

mk per tier hyper obols exists

[vagrant mountain]

oh true i forgot about those cuz i never got one

[vestal yew]

#bot-commands

[tawdry steeple]

i'm kinda close

[lapis mesa]

oh hey.. my alt dk passed the main one...

[opaque sun]

Soon you would just stop the whole concept of a “main”

[vestal yew]

does anyone have the guide chart on excel? I heard it was deleted...

[gilded sedge]

Isn't the one considered "main" the character you active farm with?

[strong nova]

its 'active'

[opaque sun]

like on dk, you would active mostly on one DK so that construction exp funnels in on the afk (due to active char gets less const exp). So your afk DK will have the highest const levels while your other DK will have higher class levels. At that point, its hard to say which DK is your main

[bold quiver]

isnt it better to keep swapping between the 2? play 1 day on each

[opaque sun]

many of the stuff in construction looks at highest con level

So its better to focus on one than to average out

[sick sentinel]

eventually you want them all leveled for the obol slots

[bold quiver]

isee

[strong nova]

level usually come when you unlock last map w5

since you need push all chara to kattle for achivment, everything main

[lapis mesa]

if it wasnt two of the same class, and one wasnt char 2 and one char 8 it wouldnt be an issue lol.

[hardy bloom]

2 artifact in 1 claim session

finally i have steak

[lapis mesa]

Nice!

[strong nova]

best

[pine pond]

I can get it to you in a few minutes

[pine pond]

Sorry wrong person ^

I can get it to you in a few minutes lol

[gilded sedge]

I mean I don't mind a free main character in a few minutes

[raven fog]

Hey does the dr from the companion gets multiplied or is it main dr

[pine pond]

Do believe that's flat but I could be wrong

I think the only multi is from plunderous

[raven fog]

Omg i got him on the free roll

Nice

[pine pond]

Lava would give us 100% multi drop rate

I think we'd be at 20x drop rate by now

[raven fog]

It does get effected by SB

[pine pond]

Yeah the 1.25

Or w.e

[raven fog]

Oh i didn’t mean that

😂

[pine pond]

Ah

[raven fog]

I meant does it get multiplied by sb or is it just flat x1

[pine pond]

Well sb multiplies all other drop rate

No matter where it comes from

Unless it's weirdly coded

[opaque sun]

it adds like any other dr, and SB multiplies that at the very end

[pine pond]

^

[raven fog]

Sick

[pine pond]

2 people stating that confirms that

[raven fog]

Btw how to get better dr now like i am at 11.5 woth cards and all i can probably get it to 12 so is the rewt p2w?

And there is the new trophy

[sick sentinel]

full obols, maxed cards, keychains/cape/prem hat (some gemshop), new trophy, new pet, sb all are pretty big

chips on top of that doubling keychains, cards, trophy

coulda just done this lol

[barren otter]

10k seems so far away...

anyone else thats done 10k how long did it take you?

[sick sentinel]

i need to play bubo again... its been a while

[lapis mesa]

Hotair the mad man is at 15k

[barren otter]

im at 380k CC avg

and its still not that many lvls per CC

[lapis mesa]

its conversations like this that remind me im still so far behind

[void badge]

those credit cards be loaded

[sick sentinel]

damn im still only around 320k

[vagrant mountain]

is this maxed?

are these bubbles also 3x max?

[barren otter]

i was at 900 5 days ago

didnt really take that long to get to 5k tbqh

[lapis mesa]

im going to be active bubo for probably a week, im going for max cauldrons since i hit 200 tent last night

[sick sentinel]

looks like it

[vagrant mountain]

ty, is this pinned somewhere?

[sick sentinel]

#1087501872002256966 message

[barren otter]

yea that also doesnt take that long either

[lapis mesa]

yeah i took cauldrons from 100 avg to 150 avg, just today

im sure itll go quick

my resources arent keeping up though so everything goes into grind time.. gotta figure out something to burn liquid 3 on

[heavy moth]

oh yea second one trying to get necklace tho ahah

[barren otter]

i just let liquid 3 cap

[lapis mesa]

im throwing it at the cauldron at the very least

[vagrant mountain]

dense water

[barren otter]

well i let it cap after decanting

[lapis mesa]

this to.. up to a 211 cost 😄

[barren otter]

but then i just got tired of paying attention to it

[lapis mesa]

oh my word you hold so much more than i do.. WHY

[barren otter]

you have the lab thing on?

[lapis mesa]

yeah

[barren otter]

uh vials and stamps too ig

75 cap is quite a lot too

[lapis mesa]

but isnt each lvl just a +1

[barren otter]

i dont think so

dont remember actually

[lapis mesa]

is yours one of the gem shop cauldrons?

[barren otter]

oh yea it is

[lapis mesa]

thats part of it, not a super big deal

[barren otter]

as long as youre not overcapping and wasting it doesnt really matter what your cap is imo

[lapis mesa]

yeah i forgot to turn on the lab boost before i started last night, so i capped out at like 200 each this mornining

[vagrant mountain]

what is the best map for plunder mobs?

citringes?

[opaque sun]

wurms pretty much get similar kills as its basically just two lanes of oj

[vagrant mountain]

oh ok

thanks

[barren otter]

farm keys

ditch the oj

[vagrant mountain]

my SB at crawlers rn

gives me an excuse to delay plunder mob farm

😆

[modern plaza]

ok

[vapid warren]

Hey guys, not sure if this is better suited for w2 or here,
At this point in the game, what % do you aim for before dumping points into popping bubbles?

[twilit goblet]

i just bubo cc and spam the unlock button with a lot of tries

1.5% currently

[vagrant mountain]

[karmic sun]

I spam the button on 3% and get salty in the process

[vapid warren]

Lol I just did the same but at 4%

[twilit goblet]

i dont unlock bubbles anymore cause im not far enough to get the mats to level them

[opaque sun]

After certain point, you cant really raise the unlock % chance, so you just raise the effective chance with more tries

[exotic juniper]

is there a tower defense guide anywhere?

[lapis mesa]

https://web.archive.org/web/20230403011952/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[exotic juniper]

@lapis mesa thank you!

[pine pond]

hot baby

[lapis mesa]

so salty

[pine pond]

😮

[lapis mesa]

as in.. thats a lot of salt... lol that does play off as bad doesnt it

Good for you, thats a lot of salt, i wish i had that much. lol

[pine pond]

oh i just atom it

[lapis mesa]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

thats way smarter

[lapis mesa]

i barely got my collider up and running, i dont sample quite high enough yet

[pine pond]

alot of damage

😛

[graceful bramble]

Do i put smithing cards before producing nails or after producing i can swap to smithing cards? For the extra smithng exp

[still apex]

Smithing cards are passive, equipping them does nothing

[pine pond]

when you unlock to make them passive

[pine pond]

if you dont have passive, then while ur collecting

[barren otter]

theyre passive by default now

[still apex]

There was an update that made them passive

[bright current]

fellas, whats the best bubbles for Vman damage that arent base stats or the last purple one

[graceful bramble]

Oh, was that changed or maybe am i recalling incorrectly? I think years ago i had to swap them

[bright current]

asking for a friend

[barren otter]

#patch-notes📝 message

[graceful bramble]

Ah i see

[barren otter]

can also just look at your smithing card for the (passive)

[graceful bramble]

I see, thanks for the insight Herus

[jade zenith]

!guide

[obtuse orbit]

In progress guide to everything about Idleon. Has builds and explanation on early mechanics
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18BpkkUGPSznTOvEMenognPllGvjTchAkcvHUKqrcu64/edit?usp=drivesdk
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[zinc torrent]

for pet breeding is there a max level to upgrade the shiny level?

[lavish quiver]

No they get to a point where its unrealistic, most say to level up to 5 first

[zinc torrent]

ty, just starting to breed shinies so was wondering

[lavish quiver]

Do any that have shiny pet upgrade speed first

makes others easier

[zinc torrent]

yeah i got like 6 gmush and im gonna work on other pets with shiny speed first

[fallen flax]

Are there any prayers I shouldn't level?

[glad crow]

The one that gives extra % to dn and portal but takes away damage, also if you haven't reached 200% crit chance yet, you can use the prayer that gives crit chance, bit you want it low leved

[native swallow]

Yeah copper ore and the yellow one stardust was it?

Using copper ore for atom also since I get very much of it

[zealous niche]

In contrast Max royal sampler

[lavish quiver]

Deffinately dont need to do this

Mine is lvl 11/20 and its still more than i needed because of other sources

[fallen flax]

Thanks for the answers!

[opaque sun]

fibers of absence also narrows the window where it becomes useful if you level it too much

[fallen flax]

Midas and Jawbreaker worth leveling early? Or leave them for later and max Dimwit and Unending first?

[glad crow]

Dimwit is always good too level, yes...
Booth jawbreaker and midas is good too level, midas in particular, because you can use midas against bosses early on

Jawbreaker might br worth to wait a little with

But that's just my opinion

[frozen knoll]

Man that idleon guide needs some serious updates since thew other one is gone

[glad crow]

You talking about the spreadsheet one? With construction, tower defense and all that?

[frozen knoll]

yea

its gonezo unless someone got a copy

[glad crow]

The original is gone ye, but there is a copy of it

I'm not at my pc right now, but I think someone in endgame got a link

[fallen flax]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#
This one?

[frozen knoll]

indeed 😦

[zinc torrent]

Should I save up for snail atom 2 or rather the cheaper ones first? Will take just a bit to get it and snail could hit 10 tomorrow

[bright flame]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#
?

[frozen knoll]

ooo Thanks

[pine pond]

[bright flame]

[fallen flax]

All those poor mushrooms never see it coming, lol

[pine pond]

nope

[valid moon]

I got on discord to look for a copy of this spreadsheet. But I'm not sure where it is anymore. I'd love to have a copy of it.

[bright flame]

i liked it few messages above

original is gone (for now?), but someone made copy

[valid moon]

AmazingQ I am super grateful for this. thank you

[frozen knoll]

Dis guy

[bright flame]

linked*

[valid moon]

I responded as I was reading the messages. Thank you both

[bright flame]

can relate xD

[valid moon]

I'll be honest though that original spreadsheet guide talking about doot... I never had such an urge to go spend $100 on green tokens so I could unlock doot as I did from reading his article. But I dont think that was the purpose of his sales letter he wrote to us.

[bright flame]

fun fact, i, for once in my life, did just because it looks nice to have + game is free to play to begin with
but taking a guide offline for this reason is... idk what to say

i just wish i made a copy first thing after opening it (if the doc even allowed that in first place)

[frozen knoll]

I needed it for arena today and that is when i notcied it was gone -_-

[valid moon]

Likewise.

[bright flame]

Haven't checked doc myself yet, cuz im a w3 plep
But hope it has everything the original had

[harsh star]

U can still find the original in the Wayback Machine like:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230403011952/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[bright flame]

yh true, but its loading for ages for me

[harsh star]

Ik but 2 min never close it 😂

[granite grove]

just screenshot it so theres never a need to wait for load time again

tho for the guide being taken down, its likely also the past drama and distrust adding up over time (pretty lengthy history), just that pet update tipped good portion of ppl over the edge

[bright flame]

from what i can tell at first glance, remake is perfect copy it seems, so guess we use that instead
if they update it as the game changes remains to be seen though

[dapper prism]

I understand someone closing his server like the nugget calc etc as he has to run it and technically (may cost) but removing a google doc to me seems a bit petty, it ends up hurting the players more than the game itself.