lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[rustic garnet]

I will barely get a double, you will get 10-20x your sample

[valid ledge]

hopefully...

[dreamy spruce]

only one way to find out ;)

[valid ledge]

should i do copper first
or should i do oak first

[rustic garnet]

doesn't matter

[valid ledge]

it does
i have the 1.28 mrinter multi rn

[rustic garnet]

that's really not much

[valid ledge]

dis

[valid ledge]

its smth
(i think)

[dreamy spruce]

how fast does it scale when eldritch?

[dreamy spruce]

so you havent sampled in 40 days?

[rustic garnet]

closer to 80

Just got a new eldritch woot

down to 2 to go

[dreamy spruce]

Grats!

wouldnt you more than double if you havent sampled in 80 days?

or do they just slow down after a certain point

[rustic garnet]

it depends really

on what bubbles you push

[dreamy spruce]

makes sense

[rustic garnet]

I've pushed my wood sample items a lot

so I'm sure my oak would be worth it

but I have not done much on copper, so lower there

[worldly bluff]

I can only imagine how long it's going to take to go through everything every morning once W10 is out

[dreamy spruce]

i thought w8 was gonna be last world

[worldly bluff]

Eve W8

Even

It takes e like 30 minutes every morning to go through everything

[rustic garnet]

Can you estimate how big your resample will be by checking hourly?

[dreamy spruce]

isnt it just 90% of hourly? if you have it capped

[rustic garnet]

hmm

[dreamy spruce]

at least that was what I thought, but I am no expert

[rustic garnet]

I'll see how big my chopping sample is before I redo

[valid ledge]

bout to do
any thing i should remember before sampling?

[dreamy spruce]

food, cards, card set, vman

[rustic garnet]

check out the guide

[dreamy spruce]

better off checking the checklist though yeah

[valid ledge]

i have all of that
where is the guide?

[rustic garnet]

dd !chopchart

without the dd

[autumn wasp]

If I have maxed materials bag but I smith the anvil item too fast. Is the only solution to collect more often or put points into anvil cap?

[stiff prairie]

Yes to both.

Collect more often or put into anvil cap.
Or produce something that isnt threads

Ive heard some people produce nails instead of threads because their rate is very high (plus u need nails to improve log prints)

[valid ledge]

: D

atleast an improvment

[unique jackal]

Wonder if anyone can help me figure out what im missing, currently levelling my Mman to 150 to start Vman quest but beginning to realise my dmg is very low as currently at lvl 131 it would take me 27 days of farming to get 12 million gMush kills and the 19 levels of talents isnt gonna push my damage much more. so can anyone tell me if theres anything commonly missed with Mman dmg?

[dreamy spruce]

do the deathnotes kills first

helps a lot with multikill per tier

[unique jackal]

Oh right yeah, i completely forgot about the bonus i'll get from that part

[stiff prairie]

1mil kills is not required to be on Vman, it comes from everyone

[unique jackal]

yeah the 12mil is though right?

[stiff prairie]

yeah, just the 12m gmush needs to be on vman

What card presets are you using?
And whats your afk rate %?

[unique jackal]

63%

[green eagle]

producing threads is early game to get crafting level higher, or you are still doing the vial. after that the only reason to make them really is the green stack and getting some bubbles to atom level

[unique jackal]

using bosses and nightmares - 6%

[stiff prairie]

Do you happen to have any levels in smoundering card preset?

Probably from card packs if u haven't gotten into w5

[unique jackal]

its 4% - does bump my xp gain currently by half a mil

[stiff prairie]

So 4% does a lot more than just +4%

Lemme explain

[lost beacon]

Two camels One hump

[stiff prairie]

Your afk rate is 63%. that goes up to 67%. That's +4%, but it terms of how much extra kills/hour you get, it works out as an extra ~6.3%. (the logic is that 67 is 6.3% larger than 63%. If maths hurts you brain don't worry too much about it).

Chances are, dropping 6% damage won't cause you to lose a multikill damage tier, so you're losing damage (but not kill counts) while also increasing your afk gain rate.

[stiff prairie]

Show off.

900m prints on bear-bunny

[rustic garnet]

so going from 60->150*.9 should be over double

I'll resample then

[unique jackal]

Ty for the explanation, its helpful

[dreamy spruce]

noo

dont resample

[next locust]

It's not the logs per hour it's the motion of the ocean 🧐

[rustic garnet]

why not?

[dreamy spruce]

wont you lose the 2.2x multi on all prints?

[rustic garnet]

Yes

[stiff prairie]

I also need to resample...
But i don't want too.

[twin token]

Does maestro double talent work on gems

[dreamy spruce]

so most of your prints would go down

[worldly bluff]

Im not understanding the skull levels in Rift. Do they have a CHANCE of transfering to another peron?

[stiff prairie]

So best not to auto.

[rustic garnet]

Is this number

inclusive of this?

[prisma drift]

IE includes it tho

[worldly bluff]

So getting a lava skull in rift is completely random?

[next locust]

Yeh auto only if you are sure you can't full clear the map before they respawn

[green eagle]

3 failures on lvl 10 snail in a row, good thing i have Sodium lvl 2

[glass meadow]

there's a chance that when a skull transfers it increases 1 level. going from copper skull all the way to lava skull. as long as you don't clear the map you'll get it eventually

[dreamy spruce]

when do I unlock snail? need more gamba in my live

[green eagle]

611b green bits

[dreamy spruce]

thx

[rustic garnet]

ok I don't know how to compare these numbers

[dreamy spruce]

cant you hover over them and see the boosts? or is that IT only

[stiff prairie]

by includes it, you just mean the 2.2 multiplier right?
and not the bunny bear thing

[rustic garnet]

yeah

I don't get how this matches that though

50 million sample turns into 816?

[stiff prairie]

Oh no nvm. i mixed up my logs.

[dreamy spruce]

I think you can go to IT and hover over it

[stiff prairie]

Because 2.17m is close to my oak log prints, and i thought i was reading oak log >.>

Also IT doesn't do it correctly

My ES should have lab bonus and bunny bonus, but it's not showing that

[green eagle]

why couldn't he have had another bonus

[stiff prairie]

COuld be worse

[rustic garnet]

my streak bonus is 120% btw

so 40 days

[stiff prairie]

His other bonus could've been clouds

[dreamy spruce]

Thats what I said

[rustic garnet]

ok that's more like it

IE is including 6x

and IT isn't (not actually on harriep on this one)

[dreamy spruce]

yeah seems like your IT is also missing the 3x

oh

[rustic garnet]

So, for my wood samples

I would drop 2.2x but go up to a triple base sample

[stiff prairie]

But everything else would lose 2.2x too

[rustic garnet]

roughly 30% increase in sample size

[stiff prairie]

Damn that's a nightmare to speak
Lose two point two too

[rustic garnet]

I'd resample all my team btw

hmmm

30% for a lot of effort

probably not there yet

[dreamy spruce]

would be x2.2 in 40 days again tho

[rustic garnet]

yeah but it would be 3.2x if I left it

[stiff prairie]

I'm going to wait till next reset before i resample

[rustic garnet]

or sorry 3.4x

if I hit 80 days I'd be more eager I think

[stiff prairie]

So i can equip snake god for +30%, then i can reapply the current gods

[valid ledge]

eh, i tried

[dreamy spruce]

triple still nice

[rustic garnet]

triple'd is very good

[valid ledge]

it did improve quite alot tho
even tho i did nothing

[rustic garnet]

now stick them in your harriep and lab

that's going to be 18x boost

total

and get your atoms moving up

[placid mural]

Love the increase in posts by lava recently, seems back to normal

[stiff prairie]

I can't wait for the next gem package for 4k gems, and a cape that boosts the new event

Or a cape that's somehow better than the kattlekruk cape

[placid mural]

The kattle cape isn't that good though

[dreamy spruce]

I feel like I've seen you say that a lot last couple of days

[rustic garnet]

is it not?

[placid mural]

It's just a hard gateway to access something that IS really good

[placid mural]

You have

[stiff prairie]

Oh it's skill exp

i thought that 40% was skill afk rate

[valid ledge]

i did it
and replaced the spot of a labslave

[rustic garnet]

very nice

now your printer is going to start to go BRRR

[placid mural]

Omg if it was. . .

[valid ledge]

now that labslaves going to push w5
its ready and i feel it

[rustic garnet]

make sure you use vman print

[rustic garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/arrested-development-season1-comedy-gob-ive-made-a-huge-mistake-gif-3450456

[valid ledge]

lol

imma leave it at suggmas
and come later to check up on him

[stiff prairie]

It's the scarf that'd stupidly good for afk rate

25%.

[rustic garnet]

I've spent over 3k keys

and only dropped the tooth string

3 of them

it makes NO sense

[stiff prairie]

Speaking of which, i need to get the dungeon pendant before i do a big resample again.

[rustic garnet]

the obols are 1 in 714, the tooth is 1 in 2500, cape is 1 in 3300

like... give me the other items!

[stiff prairie]

That what it says

[valid ledge]

and i found a twin almost instantly

[rustic garnet]

the obol is by far the best obol 😦

oh, I did something today....

Chowed everything up to W5, minus the tree mobs in w1

[stiff prairie]

Nice

[dreamy spruce]

why skiip tree bois?

[rustic garnet]

it's half the respawn

and I was running a bit low on candies

[dreamy spruce]

ah

[rustic garnet]

like, the non 2 hour ones

but on a secondary note, all my deathnotes are looking hot

[fervent brook]

I am farming for magma gloves with ES wish me luck

[tacit tulip]

good luck

[lost tendon]

what the fuck

[tacit tulip]

it took me 7 weeks

[lost tendon]

where is this

[echo crag]

hope you'll have better luck than Sakori did

[tacit tulip]

I'm just happy it's over and done with

[dreamy spruce]

thats a vman talent (eclipe something, top right)

[lost tendon]

ahh right im on the last quest for vmanm

100k mush kills, does that cut it for 12m?

[tacit tulip]

unfortunately that's a smaller number

[dreamy spruce]

yeah, just gonna take 120 hours

I did it with a similar number

[lost tendon]

ahh right

[rustic garnet]

7 months?!

[lost tendon]

5 days of waiting

[rustic garnet]

Is there a way to reduce it to a smaller time, by say killing 50 million mobs?

[stiff prairie]

Less if you candy.

You have been saving candies, right?

[lost tendon]

ahha ye should i tho?

Yeye i have lots

[stiff prairie]

Also, is that min-maxed for max rates?

[lost tendon]

I have like 200 1 hours and 100 2 hours

[stiff prairie]

Is your afk rate above or below 100%?

[lost tendon]

below

[stiff prairie]

If below, use more +afk rates

[echo crag]

have you check if you havev some pretty close Mk break point you can reach in the death note

[stiff prairie]

^^

[lost tendon]

where do i get those

[lost tendon]

like mobs that are close to turning over for + multikill?

[echo crag]

yeah

[stiff prairie]

Boop card.
chaotic amonok card
W5 card preset

[lost tendon]

I just did everything 1m, so everything is the same 😭

[lost tendon]

99%

[stiff prairie]

Not worth the change then.

[signal osprey]

Afk gains are always worth using

[stiff prairie]

So for me, it wouldn't be worth it to boost damage further, because i'm nowhere near x7. so instead i can use more +multikill cards, +afk gain cards, or just +DR/+exp etc cards

[keen hamlet]

Hey guys, just unlocked w5 couple hours ago, all my char are pretty same lvl and everything, dont really have a main char. To start active farm, w5 puching things like that, which class should i main ?

[rustic garnet]

ES is a good all rounder

[rustic garnet]

but you should read the pin and get your div gen going

[lost tendon]

@stiff prairie this is mine rn

[keen hamlet]

Yep okay thanks nate !

[stiff prairie]

so i'm assuming you're using all your +damage cards that you fit? among the afk cards and such

[lost tendon]

Yee swapped the damage out with + afk because the +damage didnt matter

i couldnt get to 2m

[stiff prairie]

Try replacing your weakest damage card with either +afk or + multikill. see if the kill/hr change

[lost tendon]

maestro is like super weak

[stiff prairie]

If it goes down, you probably lost a multikill tier (to x16)
If it goes up, it's fine

[scenic locust]

How does this thing work?

[dreamy spruce]

it gives you extra bits and whenever you rank up it gives more bits

it ranks up by having your plants evolve

[scenic locust]

So right now it's just a 1% bonus?

[stiff prairie]

Yes.

Evolving the shell gives you more bits/rank (it's your base rate X your rank level).

And spending more bits on shell improves the base rate

[fervent brook]

how much of a increase does the snail bring? I might just save up bits to get him. Might take a few days though.

[scenic locust]

Do the bonuses get sizeable?

[stiff prairie]

Well, my rank 9 shell gives me +369% more bits

[stiff prairie]

Base rate is +41%/rank. i need another 220 evolutions to get it to the next rank

I need to start saving bits for the log game though :/

[hidden marsh]

finally made it to W5!!

is it worth just putting all characters into divinity to unlock some gods right away?

[rustic garnet]

yes, check the pin

[hidden marsh]

ohh will do, thanks

now I really understand why everyone is so upset with king doot companion

these gods are OP

[stiff prairie]

Oh yeah.

Just having 3 of the gods automatically attacked is broken (bunny(hare)/bear/elephant).
The rest are just added bonuses from doot

Doot soom™️ ||Never™️||

[little pagoda]

Do I need more than one high tier splicer?

Or should I just let everyone except one with the basic splicer?

Don`t know if I need to farm more ghosts or go farm ice age 3

[bleak gazelle]

good stat stick

[rustic garnet]

one is fine, more is nice

[little pagoda]

Even for the afk dudes is it worth it\

I could make 1 now and farm more later I guess

Does splicing power matter much?

[rustic garnet]

stat stick... when its convenient to make

sure, it's nice to have more

[little pagoda]

I think I`m gonna just get the 30 ice age 3 and stick it on whoever is more active

Uhh actually stick it on someone afking for dna for now lol

Is ES the best one to splice?

In other words, does multikill matter

Splicer 4 is 1 in 3m drop rate lmao

[rustic garnet]

highest kill rate

is best for splicer

[little pagoda]

kill per kill too?

[rustic garnet]

it is only about the number you see on your screen

so everything that makes number go up

[little pagoda]

I got 2 world 2 reciper just leaving my ES while I was having lunch and got world 3 randomly at some point, might go to octodars with my ES now

[little pagoda]

Oh cool

Probably worth splicinh with BB too for zows right

chows

[green eagle]

better to just make 10 w4 splicers and be done with it 🧠

[little pagoda]

Sure I`ll get back to you in about 2 weeks lmao

[dreamy spruce]

nah takes way longer maybe

[little pagoda]

I was farming ghosts for 4 hours while I was in a job interview and got 160 ghosts, had 30 already

Don`t even have enough for 2 splicers

[little pagoda]

Yeah 1000 ghosts, 300 ice age 3 and 2000 lost batteries, should be easy right

especially the batteries

[bleak gazelle]

it's 2k batteris?

[stiff prairie]

200 each

[little pagoda]

200 per

I have a grand total of 7 batteries

Probably gonna get ridiculous TV kills by the time I would have enough for all chars lol

But I`m only going to make 1

And probably an extra later for stat boost on whoever is active

[lapis mesa]

i havent convinced myself to sit down for that battery session, everyones got a t3 and just ugh i dont wanna get t4s lol

[potent maple]

i only made one, cuz eff that 🙂

[little pagoda]

Well for me it would only be worth it for the splicing power because it`s gonna take weeks until I have good enough breeding to start pushing w4 pets

[lapis mesa]

i have failed at breeding so hard im not even pushing w4 pets yet 😄

[little pagoda]

My current breeding goal is just to reach blooming axe right now

[lapis mesa]

its a help yeah

im trying to get to the recommended comps for arenas and spices, im 1 W1 pet off

[little pagoda]

Is it possible to get it? 3 hours left...

I don`t think I will make it

God damn

[rustic garnet]

same quesiton as yesterday

[dreamy spruce]

[lapis mesa]

depends on how fast you generate

[rustic garnet]

what is your rate on the spice

how long for 1 spice?

do you have 56 collections?

[worldly bluff]

If I have king doot, is there any point of binding anyone to divinity gods?

[dreamy spruce]

only purrmep once

[lapis mesa]

at least one gets purrmep

[rustic garnet]

you get 22 per hour

[little pagoda]

How do you know

[rustic garnet]

so if you collect every time it maxes, you'll get 66

110k per hour, 5k total

[dreamy spruce]

math

[rustic garnet]

how many collections you have left?

[little pagoda]

But it goes up every time

[dreamy spruce]

just spam click it

[lapis mesa]

hes saying spam it every time it ticks over

[rustic garnet]

no, it only goes up when it's more than 1....

[little pagoda]

Can only do it 100 times per day though

[dreamy spruce]

or well every 3 minutes

[rustic garnet]

I asked that question

[dreamy spruce]

well you dont need 100 more times do you

[potent maple]

100 > 56

[rustic garnet]

do you have 56 times

to collect

or not

[little pagoda]

I might have enough to collect every single one

[rustic garnet]

I asked this when you had the question ages ago

[little pagoda]

I think I conserved my claims today

kinda

[rustic garnet]

and you didn't answer

I coulda made it easier then too :p

[worldly bluff]

@dreamy spruce @lapis mesa who do you recommend?

[dreamy spruce]

how do you even check ?

[little pagoda]

What is collection?

[potent maple]

HOW MANY CLAIMS DO YOU HAVE LEFT FOR TODAY

[little pagoda]

How do I know?

I have no idea where I can see that

[rustic garnet]

https://idleontoolbox.com/account/general

[lapis mesa]

with you having Doot, it doesnt matter at all

[dreamy spruce]

linking to purrmep? doesnt matter its account wide

[signal osprey]

Collect at 2 spices then. The increase wont be significant enough to make you miss out

[worldly bluff]

Cool thanks!

[little pagoda]

what section?

[dreamy spruce]

account > w4 > breeding cooking

[primal bison]

You need to popsicle pet for free spices

[potent maple]

if you haven't clicked it once today, you'd have 100 spices collections left for today.

[signal osprey]

Its under cooking not breeding

[dreamy spruce]

oh okay, nvm then

[potent maple]

this is kind of out of context for this conversation

[little pagoda]

I can`t find the info anywhere

[potent maple]

Where it says "Claims" is how many times left you can click to claim a spice today

[little pagoda]

I have 24 claims left

[primal bison]

No because they give doubles it speeds it up

[little pagoda]

mayeb I can click every 2 and have enough

[potent maple]

we're talkin something that can be done in the next 3 hours, so a long term plan does not apply here.

[little pagoda]

Plus my afk dudes all have 33% spice collection chance

[golden osprey]

can someone tell if this is a bug?

[potent maple]

so now you know how many cilcks you have left, how long does it take you to get 2? will you be able to click that many times in the next 3 hours?

[little pagoda]

Probably? lol

But I have to sit here fort the next 3 hours which sucks

[dreamy spruce]

you need to click all

[rustic garnet]

you can only miss 6

[little pagoda]

I can get blooming axe if I had an extra few eggs

[rustic garnet]

or something like that

[dreamy spruce]

yeah if you get 22 per hour perma clicking and need 60 in 3 hours

theres very little wiggle room

so go check if you have 60 claims or not

[native swallow]

like the next objective? Upgrade my tools, armor, weapons and such, skilling the town skills

[dreamy spruce]

he asked what you were doing in the past

[rustic garnet]

did you get 1100m on the BB or other chars?

[little pagoda]

Maybe

If I do w4 colosseum

[dreamy spruce]

that only gives eggs no?

[little pagoda]

I can get almost 200k collection

[little pagoda]

Yes but I`m 4-5 eggs away from 25 breeding

[prisma drift]

Tell me you don’t have 2 Bb

[golden osprey]

oh god

[bleak gazelle]

Love how you were just talking about this

[golden osprey]

[prisma drift]

Oh god

[golden osprey]

what do you mean bro

[prisma drift]

Have to super on the second Bb

[signal osprey]

Are those kills on a BB?

[golden osprey]

WHY

[golden osprey]

yeah

[signal osprey]

Why would you do that much gmush on a BB anyway

[little pagoda]

Ok new plan do colosseum on dk after I get my next claim for 2 spices

[prisma drift]

I just said this in w3 chat

[golden osprey]

he was the task free one

[signal osprey]

What?

[golden osprey]

lol

[bleak gazelle]

don't you need to to claim after every 1 spice?

[little pagoda]

Don`t know but if I increase my rate with blooming axe I don't

[golden osprey]

so if a turn my second into a dk, it will work normally? @prisma drift

[bleak gazelle]

fair enough

[prisma drift]

Good use of elite swap

Highly recommend

[sick sentinel]

keep in mind doesnt work with subclass swap

dont waste your gems

[golden osprey]

Yeah i have the swap at storage

[golden osprey]

I know

Ty a lot guys

[digital sand]

does anyone know the percentage the moles heal the w5 boss?

I thought I saw 1% each one somewhere, but not sure where I saw that

[fading dust]

Did anyone get through Rift 28 with an SB or DK?

[sick sentinel]

whats the rift task

[fading dust]

Mega monster, 2.2 b health. My SB only has 100 M dmg so it doesn’t seem like i can do it currently 😵‍💫

I could only do it on Bubo With 300 M dmg

[prisma drift]

Sb is second highest dmg skills I think

[sick sentinel]

how many do you need to kill it with?

[signal osprey]

Bubo and ES are the best by quite a bit

[fading dust]

4 peeps atm

[sick sentinel]

3 mages should do the trick then play around with other chars

[fading dust]

So 2 more because I did it with ES and BUBO

ah, my 2nd ES is underleveled (~180)

[signal osprey]

DK is probably your next best bet as long as you're able to boost his talent levels sufficiently high as they get very good damage multipliers

[little pagoda]

Only increased rate by 20k, maybe I still won`t get it

[signal osprey]

If books are an issue then likely SB as he just has better sheet damage in general

[sick sentinel]

did you try with your other es? shouldnt be too far off

[fading dust]

Nah not yet, I may need to boost their talent levels with library

[sick sentinel]

may or may not

ya never know

[fading dust]

Should i boost active skills (meteor/lightning) or dmg talents (stamp paperwork)

*if i find that my other ES cannot do it

[sick sentinel]

i would mainly do dmg talents then lightning

[fading cape]

You up alchemy until you have enough skill points from bubble 2 and talent bubble to get all of them

[signal osprey]

The skills themselves will give you more effective dps

Especially if you try on DK. Maxing shockwave slash increases the skills damage, your statues damage, and your basic attack shockwave damage

[little pagoda]

Wait I think I actually have 70 claims, it doesn`t show how many you have left, it shows how many youve done

[signal osprey]

Also assuming youre running a full damage card page be sure to include sand giants. People sleep on it all the time but when you already have 2-3 other damage cards slotted sand giant ends up being more dps than some of the worse damage cards

[rustic garnet]

I found min damage increasers to be the biggest DPS gains you can get at that range

the chizoar pants I think have % min damage too

with all the damage items out there, for active play, if you need more damage... by far the biggest boost you'll see if setup right

I was on the cusp of 1 shotting floams at one point, and switching to min damage card+gear did the trick

[digital sand]

Anyone complete the 10th w5 boss task? wondering what damage i should aim for on my vman before I spend the 700 keys

[astral knoll]

i did it with 50b

[digital sand]

oh i got some work to do

he at like 2.5b rn lol

[zinc zenith]

Are keys greenstackable

[digital sand]

i think you can technically green stack any stackable item

but idk how realistic that is

[zinc zenith]

I heard statues aren't greenstacked

[digital sand]

oh really?

[zinc zenith]

Ye

[paper sail]

Some items don't greenstack, like statues

[digital sand]

i would have guessed they were

well im wrong lol

who tried that lol

and how long did it take

[zinc zenith]

BUT KEYS, WHY HASN'T ANYONE TIRED KEYS

[paper sail]

Sounds like a job for you

[digital sand]

ya do it

[zinc zenith]

On it

[fervent brook]

What level should I stop leveling the shiny speed pets? I am at 6 now for all four

[digital sand]

how $ much to green stack gems

oh only $5000, someone has to have done that one

oh no 50000

nvm

[dreamy spruce]

if you buy gems I dont think they go into your inv

so you cant greenstack em with cash

[digital sand]

oh duh lol

[nimble yarrow]

is there a setup for getting just like the first 30-50 levels of citric conflict done?

[paper sail]

6 is a good point to work on others up to 5

[fallow aurora]

is a w5 card pack supposed to give a w4 card?

[fervent brook]

Its a boss card

[dreamy spruce]

jesus i've been slacking on breeding

[prisma drift]

I’d still use a ladle Ngl

[dreamy spruce]

already used all of them

[vagrant mountain]

split stack > hold enter > spam click ladles

[dreamy spruce]

its also 100% chance

[vagrant mountain]

lol

[nimble yarrow]

is there a tool to see which souls give you the most xp/charge?

[green eagle]

generally frost souls give the most, but it all depends on how much charge you have.

[outer plank]

is ther an optimal order in which to collect plants?

[bleak gazelle]

IE tells you, IT might too

[bold quiver]

@signal osprey look who is getting a worship boost!

[barren otter]

i thought 34 poisonic would be enough for wave 120 but i died at wave 119...

[bold quiver]

from 106 to that

[green eagle]

in other news i got +1 slot on this 😄

now to waste it by using kruk stones /s

[bold quiver]

do it

[prisma drift]

Do the extra

The first one is extra anyways right

[bold quiver]

all the way

[green eagle]

why did i listen

FAILURE

[bold quiver]

what did u get, show it

[signal osprey]

34 is doable but its on the low end so you probably need a bit more atom damage

[prisma drift]

He just did the first stone like I said probably

[green eagle]

i failed twice thinking "surely i won't fail twice"

[bold quiver]

ts enough, u can do that without even leveling the other turrets probably

[barren otter]

that was with 8% atom dmg

[bold quiver]

its all about getting the timing right

need to be a good hunter. if u use too soon u waste it, if u use too late it gets grouped and breach

[barren otter]

hey i have the vers of yours that didnt fail

[signal osprey]

Just do vman and pull mobs back with whip 🧠

[prisma drift]

Or pull them forward for hard mode

[bold quiver]

feels like it would work, not gonna lie

[barren otter]

ill just go back to goblin 120 in a few days

i can easily get like 6-10% more atom tower dmg by then

[signal osprey]

Unironically not bad advice in some situations

[bold quiver]

meh weak. gobvlin 130 doesnt even require atom dmg, shame on u

[barren otter]

idk man

[bold quiver]

feel the hunter inside u and get that good root going!

[vagrant mountain]

thats how i did my first few TDs lol

[barren otter]

you say a lot of shit out of your ass

so im choosing to not believe you

[signal osprey]

On TD's with stun mobs you can kick enemies forwards towards a specific "kill zone" to have your poison towers have less random poisons all over

[bold quiver]

pul up here my picture of me clearing 130 without atom. poor guy

[signal osprey]

Makes you less likely to get stuns depending on your setups

[bold quiver]

🤡

[green eagle]

you must've used several of those kruk stones lol

[barren otter]

yea i got +1 upgrade slot and used 2 kruk stones iirc

[green eagle]

ooof

💔

[signal osprey]

I need to start farming pearlers to make some kruk stoned tools

[vagrant mountain]

how many levels should i get in this

do i even need more levels?

only maps that i can think of that need huge radius would be therms/rats/poops

[barren otter]

depending on where your bubo is standing it wont hit some of the map at wurms

i had to level mine a bit higher than that for full coverage

[vagrant mountain]

at crawlers rn

what level did you need?

[barren otter]

well tbh

i rngd a 239 book

so i just hit max on it

[vagrant mountain]

XD

[barren otter]

... lol

but mine was level 185 before it and it wasnt enough

[vagrant mountain]

hmm ok

for me it revives everything on my screen

but i cant tell how far it revives outside

and it will miss some mobs if im on very corner of the map

[barren otter]

it was just that only

literal corners and it would miss reviving mobs

otherwise it was fine

[vagrant mountain]

ok ty

ill probably throw some books at it

[barren otter]

not like theres much to level for bubo in that tab anyways

have so many excess pts

[vagrant mountain]

ya i have points in green tube on my active bubo

lol

[barren otter]

yea same and i still have excess

[lapis mesa]

Wtb Ancient Fury.. Please lava.. i wanna go BRRRR

[dreamy spruce]

just unlocked kitsune, should I turn it on or off?

[lapis mesa]

if your checking regularly it shouldnt be a detriment

[vagrant mountain]

you can probably get 1 more through arctis/es/symbol

[dreamy spruce]

Alright, thanks

[lapis mesa]

Symbols is maxed as i can get, other than rolling a 180 on either book, I guess i can try and powerlevel my ES but it only provies +7 and has a maxed family guy, Arctis id have to level div right?

[fervent yew]

I left Kitsune on for a day and let it power level all my plants so i could fill out my logbook, then turned it off till i found a new plant species

[vagrant mountain]

if you got skulls just buy a max book lol

[lapis mesa]

thats an option? ill know that for next reset but i dont have skulls

[vagrant mountain]

you can usually buy 16+ books with skulls

8 skulls = 2 books

[fervent yew]

Also needs the automation arm levelled up enough to give you that option, incase you don't already have it

[vagrant mountain]

oh yeah lvl 5 automation arm

[lapis mesa]

oh ok, yeah i dont have lvl 5 yet

[opaque sun]

family guy on ES does nothing as it only applies to himself. Family guy only works during active

[barren otter]

go rng a 180 symbols

[lapis mesa]

this explains why it did nothing.. cool i can reset him again

[opaque sun]

Its a self buffing talent despite the impression

[lapis mesa]

i tried, highest i rolled was a 166

[barren otter]

[lapis mesa]

i get 1 try anhour at my current speeds

[fervent yew]

i usually just stick a single point into family guy for ES, thats usually enough to bump me an extra talent point per talent anyway, but never more than that.

[lapis mesa]

So, either hit an RNG random book while i wait for lvl 5 auto arm, or get a fury, or go throw bubo on div until his arctis passive goes up another level

[opaque sun]

it also only buffs the stuff that the class offers, so bm family guy buffs his own skill afk gain that he cant use effectively

[vagrant mountain]

id say throw your bubo on div and get levels on your ES

[lapis mesa]

switch him to goat, throw him in a tube for both xps

send my ES to push W5 more

[vagrant mountain]

ye

i had doot since i started w5, linking and unlinking gods is a foreign concept to me

[lapis mesa]

i hope one day i can feel your happiness

[opaque sun]

i put people on badgur and kattle just for the lulz (with one on purrmep for the minor link)

[vagrant mountain]

i have one link of everything for aesthetics

[lapis mesa]

i hate sucking at this\

[tacit tulip]

this is a good example why, for the most part, w5 players don't suggest pushing until you can multikill

[lavish quiver]

Wasting time

[lapis mesa]

eh, im mostly here for xp

[opaque sun]

going back, spend days upgrade stuff, come back with mk; will actually unlock the portal faster than you just staying there

[green cape]

its still worth to push into W5, slab+ sailing boots are worth it

[lapis mesa]

portal is a byproduct, just want levels

[opaque sun]

push into, yes. Push through, not really

[green cape]

crossing my fingers for next pet reset

[lapis mesa]

does this do lava rounding? as soon as i hit 7.51 is it going to round skills to 8?

[vagrant mountain]

no i think you gotta get past 8

[lapis mesa]

guess im ehre for a minute then

[vagrant mountain]

303 shouldnt take long

you are on citringes?

[lapis mesa]

yeah

[vagrant mountain]

4 hrs ez

[lapis mesa]

40 levels in 4 hours you think?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah

unless your dmg is dog water

[quiet pewter]

do you have card doubles and choc chip?

[opaque sun]

if not one shotting stuff, falling back a map or two would net more exp

[green eagle]

finally have all t6 plants

[quiet pewter]

how long?

[lapis mesa]

nope

[lyric sequoia]

Just in time to unlock the 7th plant

[lapis mesa]

i mean. im one shotting, so ok, ill see how far he gets in a few hours

[quiet pewter]

hsve you got bubble/ cards / potions? that exp seems a little low

[opaque sun]

ugh, no grid time?

[vagrant mountain]

hes trying to get 200 tenteyecle

[quiet pewter]

how long did you ahve to wait and whats your growth cycle time please?

[lapis mesa]

167, im at 199/200 tent so trying the options ive got to get the last passive point so bubo can get the breakpoint

[opaque sun]

Even without 200 tent people did bubo and cc

[lapis mesa]

yes, hes been doing it last couple days, i just want it to be btter

[vagrant mountain]

yeah true i did pre-200 tent at floms

[quiet pewter]

eh hes one level away, seems like a cool goal to get there

[vagrant mountain]

200 tent is like 2x faster though

[potent maple]

what is the best stat combo on a sailor? I know the chart for quality i just forget which were listed as the most favored in the guide

[quiet pewter]

guide says speed and loot.

not my preferred stats, but i cant be bothered arguing it

[potent maple]

oh, do you have a copy of it?

[quiet pewter]

no

[vagrant mountain]

https://web.archive.org/web/20230403011952/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[potent maple]

lolz, i hear ya, out of curosity what are your preferred?

[quiet pewter]

speed+ artifact%

[potent maple]

i can see once finding all the artificats that it'd be useless but i still have quite a handful to go myself

[vagrant mountain]

artifact % falls off i wouldnt focus too much on it

[potent maple]

thx!

[vagrant mountain]

% loot and % rare chest are best scaling

and speed is best early

double speed is good for unlocking islands

[potent maple]

i'm not early just lazy

its just that you can't completely rely on toolbox to tell ya if there is a better sailor since it only matches stats of sailors you own, and i figure i probably have a couple that are worth replacing if i keep my eye out for it

[opaque sun]

i am making half of my captains to artifact chance in preparations for new artifact updates tho

[potent maple]

for example this guy can probably go

2 others have 1 rare chance stat but everything else is loot speed or arti so I guess i'm a bit better off than i thought

[silver moon]

What are the gold nuggets for?

[potent maple]

multiplyer on bits

[silver moon]

Is the multiplier based on your highest one dug?

[potent maple]

yuppers

[silver moon]

And is that what is up top next to the nugget in the x###?

Thanks.

[tacit tulip]

nugget level is a random number from 1-1500ish, but more likely to roll low

then multiplied by your shovel %

[potent maple]

it does not cap at 1500

[tacit tulip]

so more shovel level = more consistent rolls, but you'll always be waiting to hit big

[potent maple]

shovel does not help as much as you'd think

there are multiple rolls involved

[silver moon]

What should I be upgrading to get the largest bit impact

[potent maple]

everything

a lot of them are outside of gaming: artifacts, bubbles, divnity

[silver moon]

Ah ok.

[tacit tulip]

The shovel level is very important. It dictates your max possible roll. If you never level the shovel up, you can't roll higher than about 1500

even at your max possible roll

[potent maple]

there are multiple rolls involved, it doesn't work the way you think i dont think

[tacit tulip]

the % on the shovel is a straight multiplier to what you actually roll from the shovel

[potent maple]

but does nothing for more "consistant" rolls at all as you say

[tacit tulip]

I consistently roll at least 200 now 😄

[potent maple]

wow! 200! that's an impressivly high nug roll i'm impressed!

[tacit tulip]

so you just ignored the important bit eh?

because that is exactly how it works, you don't need to delve into the calculations for a new player to understand that it gets bigger based on shovel level

It's not helpful

[potent maple]

no i helped a bit when dude built the nugget calculator (that he took down after the doot stuff)

so i know how it works

[tacit tulip]

so ie is wrong instead? We should probably tell him

[potent maple]

ooh wonder if i can use that dudes way back machine website to dig up the calculator

the IE guy quit too

ish

[quiet pewter]

this sakori guy in the screenshot has some good advice

[potent maple]

i heard he wanted the toolbox guy to take over

[signal osprey]

Got a source on that?

[potent maple]

just this chat room

so it'll be in message history somewhere

[quiet pewter]

sources are boring, i prefer wild speculation

[tacit tulip]

the shovel level is used as a divisor in the calculation on the sheet to determine your odds of rolling a higher nugget

Guess why that is

[signal osprey]

Well I think its pretty safe to say that rumor is false

[quiet pewter]

if it was false why would you bother denying it? confirmed to be true

[signal osprey]

I'm not even the IE guy

But he does have a discord for IE that has no mention of him quitting

[bold quiver]

one day lava will change the code so that nugget size range will scale with gaming level while shovel will increase the odds of getting a higher nugger than yours ( a man can dream)

[signal osprey]

And he also implemented the last two updates

[fast imp]

Is this saying that level 180 shovel the highest nugget. You can get is 30k?

[tacit tulip]

Nah, level 180 shovel, 30k nugget

then the odds of you getting a better one

[brazen cliff]

All I know is I have like a 0.06% chance to roll a higher nugget. Throwing like 100 rolls per day and wow I might hit a 100k nugget by xmas

[fast imp]

Oh you fill those in?

Ok

[bold quiver]

why would u guys torture yourself trying to find nugget chances?????

💀

[tacit tulip]

I'm a mathematician I must know what numbers do

even if it hurts me

[signal osprey]

Thats the fun part

That .06% is to get any nugget upgrade at all

Even 1 single digit higher

The odds of getting a good nugget are even lower

[tacit tulip]

1/700ish chance to get a better nugg

[bold quiver]

worse than eldrich

[bold quiver]

can u check my shovel? its 245

[tacit tulip]

need your nuggie too

[tacit tulip]

💀

[bold quiver]

seems high to me, i cant even understand what is that

[tacit tulip]

😄

[bold quiver]

pls let me believe that

[tacit tulip]

you'll get an upgrade, on average, within the next 12k nuggets

[bold quiver]

got it

could be worse

i keep strong. still got 7500 ballons to burn

[tacit tulip]

You've effectively already won the nuggie lottery, any gains now are just bonus

[bold quiver]

no way, u might not know but a 125k nugget is not enough

[tight basin]

All I know is you guys talking about it reminded me I needed to click it. It went up from 9k to 40k so ❤️

[tacit tulip]

Doubling the nugg is essentially just another snail level

[bold quiver]

insane

thats what i want. 400k nugget!

cuz then everysnail level will be stronger

anyway, does this give a "decent" dmg increase? i dont have it yet

[vagrant mountain]

damage is damage heh

[bold quiver]

meh not rly

[bold quiver]

if u think like that u will waste time upgrading a bunch of useless stuff

[rough crest]

finally made it to W5, geez i think i need to level up more cause these mobs are beefy

[bold quiver]

niceeee congratulations

[rough crest]

thx, getting to troll on my maestro was not a smart choice, had to reach her/him with archer

[bold quiver]

i imagine must have been tough

[signal osprey]

God ranks aren't that great

[bold quiver]

gotcha gonna keep postponing it then

when i get nothing better to do i'll grind it

[signal osprey]

They're the thing you get as a byproduct of maxing arctis

[bold quiver]

maybe 2 weeks?

[bold quiver]

hmm makes sense

[rough crest]

so how does one get higher tier artifacts from sailing, is it by chance from looting the same island?

like how you would level up cards with getting dupes?

[outer plank]

what order should i collect my plants in gaming

[bold quiver]

@rustic garnet Just got my mman top 1 in worship, so im actualy going to show u that i wasnt lying when i sait i get less than 1% from right hand XD. u can do the math. such a big increase
i even left my farmin map to do this for u, should be honered dude!

[untold lintel]

just got into w5, what do I need to do

[lusty wedge]

Throw everyone on divinity, come back a few days later. Repeat for a month or so.

[unborn relic]

Recently entered w5 and have a few merit points to spend but I've no idea which ones to prioritise

[twilit goblet]

!merit5

[obtuse orbit]

IMPORTANT: have atom cost reduction when you're starting to produce atoms

1. loot capacity. sailing artifacts are main w5 progression
2. w5 skill xp. you'll be sitting on divinity for a while, and skill levels help so its good to get it started early
3. respawn. portals get huge in w5
4. boss armor. recommended to save 5 points in preparation for boss armor, that way you'll be able to unlock all the pieces without having to do additional tasks
5. tab4 talent points and star talent: you might be low on elite tab talent points and stats when you're new to w5 but there are other sources. you can prioritize these over boss armor if you're not confident in crafting later armor

[serene solstice]

omfg

finalz

[untold lintel]

if i get doot theoretically, does that remove the process of having to do that?

also do these artifacts like the moai head and stuff just active all the time? like passive bonuses?

[opaque sun]

you will still want to unlock gods for the blessings, but does skip some steps

[vagrant mountain]

youre gonna still need to unlock the gods but you unlock the major bonuses right away which is the main point

[molten cairn]

you need to level everyone to 40 minimum

asap

[vagrant mountain]

yeah level 40 is a good goal

[somber rover]

Could someone please have a look at my profile and let me know what areas I should be focusing on? Just hit W5 yesterday and working on clearing W4 on the other characters, but not really sure where I am lacking the most for best progress.
https://arne431.idleonefficiency.com/

[vagrant mountain]

you got 49 books 💀

[serene solstice]

WTF

one sailing proc

after

[vagrant mountain]

nice

[serene solstice]

I literallz got b2b eldritch artifacts

[somber rover]

Yeee never got into that one so much, dont have enough skill points

[gray thicket]

A month?

[vagrant mountain]

get all your characters to w1 / w2 / w3 boss so you can collect daily keys, do all your minibosses and focus on your alchemy bubbles

[gray thicket]

[somber rover]

Any in particular or just overall?

[vagrant mountain]

all your bubbles are really low so all of them and then focus on skilling bubbles and get some good prints going

[fast grail]

Try to unlock more bubbles and level the ones you currently have

[serene solstice]

just last artifact left completly and 3 more eldritch

and I am done

[vagrant mountain]

try to have some characters in lab and try to collect all of these bonuses (except sigil)

idk how you got to w5 tbh

[untold lintel]

so do I shove all my characters in divinity?

[somber rover]

Just time ig 😂

[vagrant mountain]

pretty much, but make sure you have good prints going for your refinery / alchemy

[untold lintel]

yeah im solid

i need a good break from idleon anyway been activing way too much lately

[vagrant mountain]

yeah literally just afk there until level 15 for mantra

and then switch everyone to mantra

[fast grail]

Get meastro, you are in W5, you can easily get mman

[vagrant mountain]

then switch to vitalic if you have 2x exp

[somber rover]

Working on the levels!

[untold lintel]

so for es, what should I prioritize for divinity?

i got the shared beliefs maxed

[somber rover]

Are sigils just perma active once unlocked?

[fast grail]

level skilled dimwit prayer and equip on mman, 99% of the time you will get more exp by getting close to 100% hit chance/skilling on higher nodes

[vagrant mountain]

gotta put your characters in them like cauldrons
edit: sorry i see what you mean now, yes heh

[unborn relic]

Is their any stats or equipment I should get to speed up the starting divinity grind?

[sick sentinel]

Biggie hours card

[chrome lantern]

their bonuses aren’t given unless u have a character in them?

[untold lintel]

3xp/hr for divinity is normal in the beginning right?

[vagrant mountain]

misunderstood the question, they are always active once they are unlocked

[kind epoch]

What point can you start getting eldritch artifacts?

[unborn relic]

Bro I'm stuck on 1xp/hr : /

[chrome lantern]

gotcha

[true obsidian]

yoooooooooooo

[fast grail]

if you dont feel like manually checking, can follow this chart to see where is best place based on eff of that skill

This one is kinda an ancient on tho from before w4

still should apply at your stage tho

[chrome lantern]

it’s like late into rifts I’m p sure. maybe around 40 but don’t quote me since I’m not that far myself

[fast grail]

Eldrich was like 31 iirc

[kind epoch]

Sweet, thanks!

[brittle dagger]

why doesnt my vman speed running points show on my second talent preset

I spent like 300 points on the combat preset, but on my skilling preset i dont have any

I put a point into speed run on my skilling preset and then all of a sudden all the points came.

[barren otter]

gotta put at least 1 point into speedrun talent

then tab back and forth and your points will be there

[brittle dagger]

yeah makes sense ty

[sour flare]

does a higher construction level matter at all, in regards to how high the purple cogs roll? or is it all the same chance from lvl 70 and on?

[signal osprey]

The potential rolls do go up based on your level

[sour flare]

Ah fuck. Is it based on total construction level across characters, or just the boys sitting there making cogs?

[signal osprey]

Based on your highest level on any one character

[sour flare]

Man thanks a lot for the fast response, is this stated anywhere? I tried to look before I asked but couldn't find this info

[signal osprey]

As far as I'm aware no its not

Construction is one of the most complex and least explained skill in the entire game

[sick sentinel]

its on the wiki under cogs

[sour flare]

What... I managed to miss this whilst reading the damn wikipage. Thanks a lot boys, you have a good night

[sick sentinel]

it is just a small sentence thats easy to miss in the text no worries

most of the stuff we know is from word of mouth anyway

[opaque sun]

it is mentioned in the game’s “Construction Cogs” in the hints

[bleak gazelle]

Hints tab isn't real

[sick sentinel]

who needs hints when we have discord

[fast grail]

Anyone happen to have the sheet that has optimal snail encourges for each level?

[nimble yarrow]

what is the conversion of luck to drop chance?

[modern plaza]

there is no better optimal than yolo

wait until your safe with the atom collider… i.e. save up mail days until you have the safety net

[vagrant mountain]

slam snail as soon as button lights up

maximum efficiency

[lapis mesa]

alright.. it wont be 4 hours for 40, but it will be done by tomorrow

[vagrant mountain]

10% luck

20% skill

[twilit goblet]

wow C troll rates are bad, even with 9.99 drop rate and snapshotting CDR im still getting 0 per run

for cards*, i wonder how ppl can farm this to 4* or even 5*

[vagrant mountain]

cardifiers

[lapis mesa]

i got real lucky with an event card pack

[crisp silo]

we run them cardifiers especially for bosses

[twilit goblet]

yea imma cardify this dude soon

just 6 more cards..

[sour flare]

Boys, if I get to 1k in construction mastery, I can get level 345 talents?

[vagrant mountain]

no its 100 levels for your building

[sick sentinel]

i wish lol, its +100 levels of the library in cons

[sour flare]

I'm sad now

[vagrant mountain]

i need so much damage for rift 41 dang

[lavish quiver]

around 100b will be enough if you have skills up high

[vagrant mountain]

honestly its these ones that worry me

dont wanna be sitting there getting 100k kill an hour

actually 100k not so bad now that i think about it

[barren otter]

wow haven't seen anyone with full lustre on in a while

[vagrant mountain]

lol do it for item slab

waiting till i can slam troll set x10

[barren otter]

yea I made mine for slab and then dropped them lol

[vagrant mountain]

i figured i might as well use it before i upgrade to troll

all my other characters on dementia

[barren otter]

put on full diabolical...

[vagrant mountain]

and random stuff for slab

[crisp silo]

im getting 100k kph

[vagrant mountain]

on 5+ characters thats like one overnight session

[crisp silo]

total mayeb 400k kph

overnight is possible

i did mine in like 12 hrs

with ppl to spare

[frigid acorn]

Use more afk gains and kpk

[crisp silo]

dog, i had no mk

[vagrant mountain]

diabolical needs nullo salt , i only make like 20 an hour

[frigid acorn]

Kpk wasnt the same

[vagrant mountain]

good thing i checked my construction tab

[crisp silo]

how does one run out of souls

[vagrant mountain]

cuz i keep telling myself im gonna get a new wave in TD

but i never do

[dapper prism]

I've been getting new Gaming nuggets
I had a 13k, first time i rolled a new 5 digit was a 10k, then a week ago i got the 15k... Now i got a 17k
These upgrades are painful.. my shovel is nearly 300%
https://i.imgur.com/r5oKLse.png

Still waiting for an actual "better" nugget

[vagrant mountain]

i recommend digging bottom left

[vivid garnet]

Wish it had a pity system. That and sailing

[sly plank]

what’s the strategy for gaming? I only have up to log and getting up to 375k green for pong seems impossible, I only have like 1k right now

[vagrant mountain]

click all the plants and upgrade everything you can

[sly plank]

[vagrant mountain]

i feel like game sped up for me when i got chemical + log

and try to unlock all the outside bit gain

[sly plank]

yeah I do have chemical now, how much should I invest in the first tab upgrades?

[vagrant mountain]

as much as you can

[sly plank]

roger

[vagrant mountain]

dont think there is a bad upgrade really

except pong

[sly plank]

is it better to let plants evolve to max before claiming?

[vagrant mountain]

just chemical

[sly plank]

everything else just claim?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah dont claim chem until they are 4th evo and try to always have 2 or 3 before you click

then you just fish for more chems with chemical + sprinkler + log + sprinkler

or at least thats how i play

ideally chems lvl 5 so one chem resets log (right now its only 16hr) but my plant growth is still too slow

[twilit goblet]

woo big gains from the ctroll card and doubler chip

rest will be a slow grind from now on

[vagrant mountain]

[twilit goblet]

putting all 3 mages on wood duty

[vagrant mountain]

i got 2 on wood and 1 on combs for bob

[twilit goblet]

how does it work again with 1b sample

it allows you to click the stats hourly, but that means you're not getting any atoms anymore?

[signal osprey]

Only if you print exactly 1b. If you print more than 1b you just get less atoms

[vagrant mountain]

youre probably not printing exactly 1b

[signal osprey]

The first 1b puts you to cap and any excess becomes atoms

[twilit goblet]

is it 1b across multiple characters or per character?

[signal osprey]

Doesn't matter

[vagrant mountain]

it uses the resources

when you click it

[signal osprey]

1b of a resource is 1b of a resource

[vagrant mountain]

😆

[twilit goblet]

okay i did some quick math, im still not 1b yet even if i print oak on 3 characters

[vagrant mountain]

i dont think id go for hourly clicks if you have to print on all 3 characters

probably something else you can upgrade with different prints

[sour flare]

Optimal bubo layout? Cooking, aura, raise dead, poison cloud? Or raise dead before aura?

[vagrant mountain]

depends on map

raise dead first if you need less auras

[twilit goblet]

yea im gonna just upgrade things around rather than hourly click for now

[sour flare]

I'm sitting tremor wurms, is there a more efficient one for alch gains exclusively?

[vagrant mountain]

tremor worms aura first

[sour flare]

Getting 330-340k prog here, all maxed talents. There is no better map?

[vagrant mountain]

i think tremors have highest mob density

mabye citringes? havent really tested tho

[sour flare]

Perfect, I'll stick to aura first then. I'll do one run of citringes before heading off

[vagrant mountain]

citringes you want raise dead first

because you only need like 2 or 3 auras to hit everything

[sour flare]

Figures. I'll be back in 10 or so

[vagrant mountain]

cya later

[tranquil yew]

Excuse me boys, somebody knows if I have king doot, I can use the mayor bonus from purrmep god?

[opaque sun]

Yes you can use the major bonus (2x div), but not the minor link (sail/game) as that requires someone actually linking to purrmep

[tranquil yew]

yeah, but I actually see that I dont have the major bonus, it doesnt affect me

[opaque sun]

does the active character have div level of 2+?

[tranquil yew]

for example I produce 36000 divinity points, before unlocked purrmep.

I just unlocked it now and I dont see the x2 production points.

[tranquil yew]

What do you mean?

[sour flare]

325k at citringes, lower than any I've managed to see when it finished at tremors

[fading dust]

Jesus what the hell was rift 29, barely got 180 or score with 200 talent pts on orb

[opaque sun]

When you are on an active character with div level 1, doot disables for everyone

[vital tusk]

my vman is nowhere near killinh chatoic kruk

so no bow for me for awhile lol

[simple ermine]

Imagine having to do nightmare fml

[barren otter]

the 330-340k avg you were getting on wurms is what i was at recently

[tranquil yew]

So what do I have to do?

[barren otter]

im at 380k avg now after maxing out CC and getting roadkill bubble to 350

[opaque sun]

just raise the divinity level of the active character to 2 or higher

[sour flare]

Will be a lot of atoms until I can snag that high of a road kill

[vital tusk]

@simple ermine its the same i cant even hurt him enough to matter lol

[barren otter]

yea its worth it though

[vestal yew]

are there any foods (other than golden foods) that people use for bubo to increase damage?

[sour flare]

I've got 92% on 225, what is the % on 350?

[barren otter]

100

[sour flare]

Will just have to keep hammering at it. You also do aura before raise dead?

[barren otter]

yea raise aura fart boy

[sour flare]

Oh you're running raise ahead in prio of aura? I'll try that one run tomorrow too, but I'm out, take care people

[tranquil yew]

so for example, my top character is lvl 70 div and the active character that I use purrmep is the 2nd most leveled, I level the 2nd one?

[vagrant mountain]

yeah i think tremor wurms just has the most mobs in one map

[opaque sun]

Doot disables if you are on a character with divinity lv 1

If its not 1, then that is not the issue for you

[vagrant mountain]

i noticed if you dont sit on altar, your divinity level is -1 in IE

[tranquil yew]

Sorry bro, I´m still don´t get it about the divinity lvl 1

My brain is confused

[opaque sun]

since you mentioned that with doot, some effect is not working. So i suspected maybe you were looking at it on an active character that never raised divinity levels on him

If you are on a character that never did divinity, doot disables

If all of your characters have at least lv2 or higher in each of their divinity, my “guess” of your issue was wrong

[tranquil yew]

All my characters are in zen style

[vagrant mountain]

have you tried turning it off and on

[tranquil yew]

Can I do that?

[vagrant mountain]

i meant restart your game

heh

[tranquil yew]

Ahh, okay let me try

[opaque sun]

Any divinity done from lab doesnt appear in the “div points per hr” prediction on the altar by the way

The altar’s info ui only displays for those on altar, but doesnt check the numbers coming from lab divinity (using goat)

[tranquil yew]

maybe is that

all my characters are in labs

[opaque sun]

You still get the progress tho

[tranquil yew]

I think its that, I used a idleon toolbox and I have all divnities actives

so I guess thats the problem

[opaque sun]

And when you visit the altar, its showing the prediction of one character (the guy currently checking the altar)

[tranquil yew]

Okay thanks mate

[ashen marsh]

was there an update where we get items when claiming afk?

[wind umbra]

you probably have doot or you have sheepie

[ashen marsh]

ahh sheepie

[opaque sun]

level up gift from any level ups happen over afk claim

[native folio]

Hello

Is mantra worth it?

[opaque sun]

in certain situations yes, but not something you put in brainlessly

[native folio]

What's the best way to unlock gods faster?

focus I suppose

[twilit goblet]

ye focu

focus