lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[lost depot]

A gacha game (Japanese: ガチャ ゲーム, Hepburn: gacha gēmu) is a video game that implements the gacha (toy vending machine) mechanic. Similar to loot boxes, gacha games entice players to spend in-game currency to receive a random in-game item. Some in-game currency generally can be gained through game play, and some by purchasing it from the game publisher using real-world funds.

Most Gacha games are free-to-play (F2P) mobile games.[1][2]

The gacha game model began to be widely used in the early 2010s, particularly in Japan.[1][2] Gacha mechanics have become an integral part of Japanese mobile game culture.[3] The game mechanism is also increasingly used in Chinese and Korean games, as well as Western games.[3][4][5][6] Despite their ubiquity, gacha games have been criticized for being addictive, and are often compared to gambling due to the incentive to spend real-world money on chance-based rewards

[crisp silo]

hmmmmmmm

[short egret]

Ok

[crisp silo]

so it involves money

[lost depot]

(citation needed)

[short egret]

I want idelon on mobile

[bold quiver]

wow make sure to warn all gacha games that the free characters u have to gacha on are not gacha! call the cops

[lost depot]

Gacha does not require players to spend real money

[crisp silo]

hmmmmmm

[short egret]

I want idleon on mobile now!!!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!!1

[bold quiver]

ofc not, its a system

[crisp silo]

so sailing is not gacha

cause it does not require a currency

[lost depot]

Gacha is when players spend any currency for a random chance to get items, so sailing and nuggets are not gacha

[rustic garnet]

What, are you having a stroke?

[bold quiver]

what if the currency is time

[short egret]

Gacha sucks

[crisp silo]

time isnt a currency

[bold quiver]

😳

[crisp silo]

or is it

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[short egret]

Gacha sucks try to prove me wrong

[lost depot]

You make a good point that I agree with but purely on a technicality it isn't gacha still

[bold quiver]

ask karl marx that!

[crisp silo]

it does

[short egret]

Fr

[tacit tulip]

My energy bill says otherwise (not helping I know)

[tight merlin]

Gacha sponsors you the freegame play on idleon

[crisp silo]

hmmmmmmmmm but you are using kW

[bold quiver]

haha yeah just messing around

[rustic garnet]

You just don't understand, I like to have something you can't have by spending money that you can't or won't, then I love to talk about how much further/better I am at the game than you. /s

[short egret]

Its free on steam

[lost depot]

I think games like Idleon and Destiny 2 and Diablo 4 that are F2P still get you to gamble your time in return for progress

With poor returns

[crisp silo]

hmmmmmm so is omni gacha

[leaden shuttle]

Is it really the gacha ?

Or the 4 years / 500$

[short egret]

Its free on steam

[lost depot]

Companions are pure gacha, yes

[bold quiver]

im waiting for cosmetics in idleon!

[tacit tulip]

We have those too

[rustic garnet]

Vulture, you missed the sarcasm note at the end

[short egret]

Oh

[bold quiver]

no more naked characters!

[rustic garnet]

are we playing the same game?

[crisp silo]

i like the hats more

[visual lava]

He has stated in the past on an art stream that he won't do it

[bold quiver]

true. But the inability to dress your character completely is weird after soe time

[visual lava]

The amount of time it would take to animate all armors

[bold quiver]

yeaaah i know D: ive known that since alfa

[lost depot]

Yeah Lava said character clothes were impossible or something

[bold quiver]

but one can dream!

[visual lava]

Not impossible, just takes a ton of time

[lost depot]

But I reckon sprinkling some gacha mechanics might make it much more possible xd

[dreamy spruce]

finance it with gacha? 👀

[lost depot]

Actually sailing is gacha right, because you can buy chests for gems

[crisp silo]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[bold quiver]

yes

[lost depot]

u were right

[bold quiver]

u buy the best chest that boost your chances of getting relic

[crisp silo]

ill be damned

[bold quiver]

but not many people know that!

[crisp silo]

brave is right

[fast verge]

i have improved (slightly)

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/uhhh-oops-anime-gif-8820214

[little pagoda]

Do chest in colosseum get drop rate multiplied?

[rustic garnet]

is there a faster way in/out of the menus?

[bold quiver]

ohh looking good

[rustic garnet]

I would like to open my chest and depost

I have to click codex, and then click chest, then click depoist, then click on the items bag twice

is there an improvement?

[fast verge]

spend the last week improving on skills
got like everyone to elite class 👍
working on divinity and vman

[bold quiver]

Oh great. Once u get VMAN it will be an insane boost to your acc

[fast verge]

lvl 150 is gonna take a bit tho
no more candy

[little pagoda]

telekinetic storage?

[bold quiver]

yeah maybe u could wait until W5 for that. Cuz it takes from styart to finish of W4 to get lvl 150ish based on the exp curve

but at W5 the weakest map already gives u aton more exp than last w4 (and u can acess with anyone)

[fast verge]

ye, its that im behind on weapon for my mman, so gotta get that first(dont do enough dmg)

[bold quiver]

oh dont worry every weapon of his suck. U can keep using bandages until lvl 250+

[fast verge]

oh.

how dmg then

💀

[bold quiver]

exactly kkkkkkkk its mostly alchemy/stamps/dishes etc

[fast verge]

k

[bold quiver]

i can use CCD to get to 111 before having to worship again right?

[twin token]

If u think abt it yellow hands cost 90 gems to make

[little pagoda]

You get a speed boost from the one after bandages though

[bold quiver]

atk speed boost? thats irrelevant for him dont worry

Like, u can craft other weapons but its only worth if u can do it fast

[little pagoda]

btw what is the fastest way to get the vman level requirement? Afk fighting whatever is the highest xp?

[spare sigil]

how to carry over DK's orb to the next round of colosseum?

[bold quiver]

yes

[bold quiver]

just re-enter. It wont show but its working

[sick sentinel]

as long as the orb shows in the top right its good to go, the count resets on map refresh but it will still count up

[tacit tulip]

If you have the sources of exp/crystal chance active would be faster, but it's also a poor use of active gameplay so just stick to your idea 🙂

[little pagoda]

Yeah vman is one of my next goals but my maestro is so weak lol

I need 1m kills on everything w1-w3 right?

[tacit tulip]

Yeah, but from the whole accountn

[little pagoda]

Yeah

[tacit tulip]

Only the gmush needs to be vman

[granite grove]

push afk w5 for exp while other character is pushing to w1-3 DN 1m

[little pagoda]

and 12m maestro gmush? Anything else?

[granite grove]

thats it, you are vman

[little pagoda]

Yeah, that wouldn't take me too long I don't think

[safe harness]

what level should i reset post office streak?

[little pagoda]

But I'm probably gonna wait for some more artifacts etc

[tacit tulip]

Far less frustrating than the mman quest was

[glad mountain]

if i want to optimize dr for farming kruks keys, do i just need to look at rounded dr numbers?

[little pagoda]

Which god is best for the kills btw? 3rd?

[tacit tulip]

This depends on your resources, 50 or 100 is generally the easier ones to do

[granite grove]

101 then stop and wait for reset

[sick sentinel]

cost scaling stops at 100, later orders are a bit more expensive to maintain for some tho

[safe harness]

thanks

[sick sentinel]

nobisect,i think thats 3rd ye

[little pagoda]

I only have up to 2nd so far, gonna make sure to get the 3rd before I go for the death note

[bold quiver]

Usualy people candy 1M deathnote on blood barbarian for chow

[little pagoda]

What I'm thinking is, everyone but both my ES in lab, and both ES getting kills with nobisect?

Unless i can spare more characters without deactivating bonuses

[bold quiver]

The most "saving time and resources" deathnote push is up to 100M with BB, then u finish to 1B with whoever u want

[little pagoda]

Ah true, BB should be getting kills too for zor and chow

zow*

[bold quiver]

yeah 2 birds with 1 stone. Then u dont have to waste time AGAIN for bb

[granite grove]

if you can, also have DK pushing w5 to OJ bay once your lab can function with most bonus with just 6 chars

or just alternate characters in/out of lab if need to use

[little pagoda]

Problem is ES has higher multikill but at least BB has kill per kill

[viral snow]

https://i.imgur.com/v4Ro2Gn.png
Do you think its time to resample on my lvl 240 bubo ?

[gentle furnace]

why is your bubo printing mob drops instead of logs

[granite grove]

looks good enough for rank 2 orange salt refinery to me

[viral snow]

because hes smurt
and hasnt seen the daylight for weeks

[cerulean hemlock]

Sure

[viral snow]

i created that dude
let him print bullfrogs because of salts
and then parked him in lab till a few days ago

[cerulean hemlock]

ES?

[gentle furnace]

the only person who should be printing mob drops is bm and maybe 1 sb

[bold quiver]

cuz alchemy also needs monster parts. duuh.

[gentle furnace]

all mages are supposed to print logs

[cerulean hemlock]

How about the perma-beginner? 🥺

[dreamy spruce]

and vman right?

[granite grove]

just ES active farm for a day and you should have supplies for week

[viral snow]

tryna get that lvl 13 vial with that print

[cerulean hemlock]

Ikr

[dreamy spruce]

is there a multiplier I am missing or do I just need to farm more genes?

[viral snow]

You cant get another multiplier from upgrades

nvm thats stick
cant get past world multi on that

[dreamy spruce]

Alright, guess I'll just continue farming genes. Thanks

[viral snow]

But you can get multipliers outside of breeding
cooking donuts for example
there also a vial i believe

[dreamy spruce]

yeah my cooking speed not that fast yet, have it at lvl 13 rn

[tacit tulip]

Rarity multi can help too, a good egg will be much higher odds than grey, ofc takes longer

You'll be done with w1 long before getting the later buffs

[dreamy spruce]

You think its worth candying? or nah

[tacit tulip]

Huge diminishing returns on DNA for time

[granite grove]

if you wanna sweat splicers, do frequent 2min afk claims

[tacit tulip]

If you wanna put the effort in to get good DNA, 2 min afk claims.is better

[dreamy spruce]

yeah been trying to check on 2 SBs pretty often

[safe harness]

what stats boost splicing? is it DR and multikill/dmg?

[cerulean hemlock]

Get better eggs too

[opaque sun]

just kills per hr

[cerulean hemlock]

the latter (kph)

[safe harness]

ty

[cerulean hemlock]

How are you?

[dreamy spruce]

is it worth waiting on higher rarity eggs though? Heard someone say to just use eggs when you get them for black dna

[cerulean hemlock]

What egg was that % rate?

Bronze?

[dreamy spruce]

no egg or normal egg, think no egg tho

[sick sentinel]

using white eggs has the advantage of better exp and grey dna

[opaque sun]

black dna doesnt change by rarity, but for breed exp, some rare eggs can slightly raise the efficiency

But in general more often is better than saved few

[cerulean hemlock]

Ok, yeah, you might want to get +% new pet chance from meals

[dreamy spruce]

alright, will do that then thanks

[cerulean hemlock]

Unless your RNG is really really bad 😅

[signal osprey]

Even with bad rng you still level up faster on average by spamming white eggs

[bold quiver]

is there a trick to leveling alchemy fast?

[signal osprey]

And leveling up is pretty important as getting the level 50 bonus is a huge boost to breeding new pets

Best way to level alch is to just bubo more

[bold quiver]

dont i get his exp bonus even afk?

[signal osprey]

But even then it just gets slow after awhile

You should but its not the exp bonus that makes you level fast its the CC

[opaque sun]

not like its worth to, but having multiple bubo and putting in same liquid or sigil helps to speed their levels

[bold quiver]

oh so CC boosts that also?

[signal osprey]

You get exp by making progress with cauldrons

[bold quiver]

thought it was something separate like sigils time

[opaque sun]

The sec progress also gives exp

[signal osprey]

CC is just days of progress all at once

So its days of exp all at once

[bold quiver]

i see i see, cool

[opaque sun]

Sigil also gets increased exp for cc, just not progress

[bold quiver]

once i get to leveling my GT (probably never) my level will reach the moon. Im only 118

[olive kestrel]

Doesn't liquid cauldrons also get more xp than normal cauldrons or am I making that up in my head

[rustic garnet]

100k seconds every 15 minutes

[opaque sun]

Sigil and liquid gives 2x of color cauldrons

[signal osprey]

400k every 15m

[rustic garnet]

really topbird?

[olive kestrel]

does sigil give boosted xp during CC even though it doesn't give boosted progress for sigils

[bold quiver]

a million K every 15 minutes

[signal osprey]

Yeah color cauldrons give the least exp

[opaque sun]

Its mentioned somewhere that liquid and sigil gives 2x alch exp

[rustic garnet]

ok, sigil and liquid give them same exp?

[signal osprey]

I believe they do

[rustic garnet]

and does CC proc any sigil progress?

[signal osprey]

Not progress just exp

[opaque sun]

no sigil progress but gives exp

Sigil cc progress was a thing on day 1 of sigils tho

[tacit tulip]

Sad I missed that

[rustic garnet]

oh cool, so some people maxed them immediately

[signal osprey]

A shame there was no 200 tent

[rustic garnet]

and everyone else requires years of sigil time

[signal osprey]

1 day now is all we would need

[opaque sun]

And lava reset to like the first 4 sigils

[rustic garnet]

ahh ok

that's fair then

[bold quiver]

imagine if the last sigils were actualy good

[silver hatch]

quick question is my damage so post to get cut in half on w5

[signal osprey]

Yeah most of the later sigils are bad

[silver hatch]

its the only world it does it on

[tacit tulip]

DK accuracy talent

[signal osprey]

So sure it takes years to max sigils entirely

[fathom lagoon]

My immediate go to answer lolol

[signal osprey]

But realistically its only a few months to get most of the good stuff maxed

[silver hatch]

even with acc talent active doesnt do it on other worlds

[bold quiver]

true

[rustic garnet]

Yeah, they are mostly bad, and so bad by the time you can get some, you should be widely past the results

[fathom lagoon]

Yeah cause your acc isn’t 1.5x the required amount in w5

[tacit tulip]

The talent gives you more damage if you're 1.5x monster acc requirements

So in w5, you're not

[opaque sun]

Many questions of “i lost damage in w5” is people not meeting the accuracy requirement on squire’s damage talent

[silver hatch]

oh

[signal osprey]

I've done maybe 1/4th of the total sigil progress i need and I have like 90% of the value sigils will ever give me

[bold quiver]

i feel like this wont even increase my refinery speed properly. just a guess that inside a bad multiplier

[tacit tulip]

I don't have the game open but it's the left middle talent on squires page

[signal osprey]

Refinery sigil isn't too bad but its not a game changer or anything

Especially when you get enough money to push the stamp

[tacit tulip]

Most refiner stuff is additive I think so it'd a drop in the bucket, but 80% is huge

[opaque sun]

Made my 58 sec cycle to 57 cycle

[bold quiver]

wow huge

[tacit tulip]

Huge.

[bold quiver]

my cycle is still too slow

if it goes down to 3minutes i will be happy!

[tacit tulip]

Oh yeah that is pretty slow actually

Given where in the game you are I'd expect much quicker

[opaque sun]

Once around 56-58 sec range, it hardly makes a difference despite the upgrades you do

[signal osprey]

I don't even really pay attention to the refinery anymore

IE tells me one is ready to upgrade and I upgrade it

Thats it really

[silver hatch]

is there a way to increase book of the wise lvl or no aside from pet max talent lvl

[bold quiver]

i stil cant keep green zone 100% active so i gotta pay attention D:

[opaque sun]

refinery is basically making squire’s damage talent one of the best scaling damage talent now over speedna

[bold quiver]

my pink/nullo are turned off now

[tacit tulip]

GUYS

[bold quiver]

idk, think this is a far fetched dream

[tacit tulip]

I'm at work and left the game on at home

Sorry about the picture

[bold quiver]

its not a linear dmg increase

[signal osprey]

Its already been achieved

[opaque sun]

It gets faster and faster scaling

[dreamy spruce]

oh you got the recipe, grats!

[hollow wasp]

oh my god finally, this is a super gamechanger

[tacit tulip]

About bloody time

5k royal urns

[dreamy spruce]

oh yikes

[opaque sun]

Red salts becomes one rank ups a day, which soon becomes 2 ranks ups a day, and snowballs

[signal osprey]

Serimo was getting 1.83k damage from speedna and 1.85k from refinery on DK

And salts just get faster and faster so its higher now

[bold quiver]

and how does that translates to actual dmg

[dreamy spruce]

Who's Serimo?

[bold quiver]

cuz its not a linear equation

[signal osprey]

Not sure but the point is that its infinite and gets faster

[tacit tulip]

The class % damage buffs weigh heavily on the damage calcs

[signal osprey]

Its just a matter of time until DK is best sheet damage class

[tacit tulip]

That's why speed potions give so much damage to sb

[opaque sun]

in 2-3 months, the salt damage talent will surpass speedna multiple times

[signal osprey]

One of the few remaining actual end gamers

[bold quiver]

hm im close to ranking up my red salt, ill try to remember and check dmg before+after

[dreamy spruce]

you guys arent?

[tacit tulip]

A single upgrade won't do much, it's very much the speed scaling that gets toy there

[opaque sun]

Its linear per rank, and the frequency of rank up gets better

[signal osprey]

You have to keep in mind it gets a ton faster over time. Serimo has 86 redox and 50 orange salt

[bold quiver]

it will tho

[signal osprey]

He levels up redox in less than 24 hours now

[bold quiver]

cuz the more i level the less dmg i get

[dreamy spruce]

damn

[nimble yarrow]

to calculate how much time a ladle gives on a BB you just multiply 1 hour by the percentage your BB gives right?

[signal osprey]

But its literally infinite

[opaque sun]

lava made that refinery talent when people thought getting rank 20 red would take years

[mint remnant]

do u still use warfare or just aura if u active stinger bubo on tremor wurms?

[signal osprey]

Rank 100 redox salt is going to be achieved in 2 weeks tops

[bold quiver]

😮

[signal osprey]

Less with decent omni

[bold quiver]

wanna get to 100 also

[tacit tulip]

Aura with fart ghost as backup

I put warfare on at the end too but it's not required

[opaque sun]

by autumn, end gamers will be complaining to add refinery on quick ref

[bold quiver]

lol. A true complaint!

[signal osprey]

Help lava pls my redox timer is 6 hours per level

[opaque sun]

Visiting town everytime just to rank redox gonna be pain

Or island expedition adds a pet (island) that auto ranks up

[dreamy spruce]

oh that would be nice

[signal osprey]

True endgame is getting redox so high you can hourly click the red salt bubble

[opaque sun]

Rank up per refinery cycle eventually

So every minute clicks

[bold quiver]

guys it happened!

second time in my life

[dreamy spruce]

grats

[signal osprey]

People gonna be doing 10 stacks of redox for the power10 build rate talent

[echo crag]

hopefully it rewards you with another stamp lol

[bold quiver]

ive been doing this everytime and i never get over 30 balls, so weird

didnt reward me with another stamp, but iu'll take the gem + golden balls thanks

now i dont have to farm gems to gamble on chips for 2 weeks!

[upbeat fox]

Should I go for Rare Chest Chance or loot value?

[opaque sun]

loot

Rare chest chance as a stat is good and versatile, but the magnitude is too small of an impact to notice the difference sadly

[upbeat fox]

Thx

[fathom lagoon]

I got like 800 balls once. Was mindblown lol didn’t even know what was going on, think it was like my 2nd time getting to this stage ahah

[fathom lagoon]

Damn what does jackpot give you?

[bold quiver]

3k gold bal, 250 balls, 2k gems

[fathom lagoon]

Oh shit wow

2k gems pretty generous

[bold quiver]

getting a jackpot early game could be game changer

[bold quiver]

yeah lavais very generous with f2p people. Just take the fact u can infinite farm gems to buy whole store at late game

[fathom lagoon]

Yea not too many games do that lol

[leaden shuttle]

Where do u farm gems late game?

[bold quiver]

1x boss runs

1 key = 1.2 gems if u use the excess keys dropped

[hollow wasp]

EHHHH

the idleon guide with tower defense is gone

help

[leaden shuttle]

I respect the grind

[fathom lagoon]

Someone copied it on Reddit

[bold quiver]

and u get pens from bosses so u can refarm the tickets on PO office box

[bold quiver]

yeah then u keep stacking this everyday

in case u need candies/or gems as u go

[hollow wasp]

got it ty

[fathom lagoon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/1599tlh/new_idleon_spreadsheet/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

[delicate thistle]

each colo gives you a ton of keys too right?

[bold quiver]

yeah only colo3

[delicate thistle]

can you realistically use all your tickets and keys

oh yea i meant each colo3 run

[bold quiver]

wdym by that?

[prisma drift]

Any way to fix Goldric coin drop quest?

[bold quiver]

u can infinite farm gems through that process so no

u will have an excess of keys

[prisma drift]

He drops dementia coins for me and they don’t respawn or count for the 15 coins collected

[fathom lagoon]

Is autoloot off

[prisma drift]

Am I just locked out of that quest?

[dreamy spruce]

maybe deactivate lab bonus?

[bold quiver]

rip quest

[delicate thistle]

how many keys do you get per colo3 run? dont you just get WAY too many

[prisma drift]

Could maybe do it

[bold quiver]

im getting 200 now on average

but when i started doing some runs i was getting 120 on average

[delicate thistle]

and 835 tickets...

thats so much

[bold quiver]

yeah i try to get 30 tickets everyday

[prisma drift]

Not even close

I’m still at plat coins without lab bonus

[bold quiver]

then i reset the streak cuz its too expensive

[prisma drift]

I don’t think I can do the Goldric quest

[dreamy spruce]

ah

:{

[prisma drift]

That’s p cringe

[fathom lagoon]

Yea wtf wouldn’t expect that

[fathom lagoon]

It’s cause your coin drop is so high they can’t be bronze?

[native swallow]

how much dmg do I need to kill the w5boss with the hidden class (forgopt his name)? Hes my 5th char so to unlock the pants from the boss I need to kill him once with this char

[bold quiver]

10B is already "not maddening"

[opaque sun]

200b ish for a easy “just auto” fight

[native swallow]

woah I think I have just 80mil or so

[prisma drift]

The quest is to pick up bronze coins

I can’t even get down to gold

[fathom lagoon]

Damn that’s boofed

[prisma drift]

Rip slab

[bold quiver]

U can kill with whatever dmg u have, u just need to ask yourself how long do u want to spend doing that. @native swallow

[prisma drift]

Wanted to get the pre crime box

[native swallow]

but its healing itself faster than I can do dmg

[bold quiver]

it doesnt heal a single time if u play properly

[native swallow]

and since the beginner class has pretty much no attack skills I cant even kill the minions that heal him

[native swallow]

I couldnt kill the minions not one

[bold quiver]

cant u one shot minions? o.o

[opaque sun]

use wasd (and R to attack) for mole fending

[bold quiver]

thought theyy had 1 HP

[native swallow]

80mil is worlds apart from 20 biliion 😢

[bold quiver]

no like, u can kill boss even with less than 10B

[native swallow]

so no even with multiple attacks I couldnt manage to defeat one

[opaque sun]

80mil is like weeks of combat to kill nm kattle

[bold quiver]

but i thought those minions had 1HP

[native swallow]

nope

you just have enough dmg I guess haha

[bold quiver]

yeah get back to it once u have AT LEAST 1B i'd say

as long as u can one shot moles u are fine

[runic girder]

Why would they

[native swallow]

but how, I dont get how you guys have so much dmg

[runic girder]

Yes you do

[opaque sun]

More like how you dont

[signal osprey]

They're literally biggole moles

[native swallow]

alchemy is big I know

[bold quiver]

kkkkk thought they were just a healing ting,

[signal osprey]

Like the mob in the map

Same stats

[runic girder]

There you go

[native swallow]

but I cant farm enough to do that much dmg

it would take like half a year it feels like

[bold quiver]

D+

[signal osprey]

Its an incremental game

[bold quiver]

gotta bring your A game

it only take 2-3 months to reach 100B dmg

[runic girder]

Upgrade bubbles -> increase sample, repeat

[signal osprey]

You're meant to gain power over time

[bold quiver]

not on vman lol

[opaque sun]

“I know getting a job is big to earn money, but besides getting a job, how do i get big money?”

[signal osprey]

If farming for a few months to accomplish a goal seems like something you dont want then you better find a new game

Thats literally the point of idleon

[bold quiver]

sell feet pics!

[manic moat]

I can't seem to get the SB flag above 100 on any map, what things would I need to work on to get this score higher?

[bold quiver]

removing vman skill lol

[signal osprey]

Theres also no point in getting the flag above 100

Its not like wormhole or orb

[runic girder]

Achievement

[bold quiver]

its for the achiev haha

[opaque sun]

Spending a bit on Coin talent helps to some degree, but dont need much

[signal osprey]

He said on any map though

[native swallow]

bro I am already playing this for nearly 2 years dont have to tell me this, but I couldnt increase the dmg of my vman nearly enough to do anything..

[signal osprey]

Achivement is map specific

[bold quiver]

is it? didit know

[runic girder]

Yeh, all 3 are

[manic moat]

the on any map was to point out that something was wrong

[runic girder]

As brave said, its the vman skill

[signal osprey]

Vman sets 100 as a cap

[manic moat]

it is for the acheivement

[signal osprey]

Turn off the enhancement

[manic moat]

hmm, I'll look into that, thanks

[opaque sun]

Also manually collecting the coins for the last 90 or so will bring it to 100

[runic girder]

Need 150 iirc

[bold quiver]

150

[signal osprey]

What exactly have you been doing for 2 years?

Like what are you farming on your characters

[bold quiver]

apparently not alchemy!

[opaque sun]

Maybe he has like 50k fmj bubble

[bold quiver]

when i say that gametime is not equal to actual progression people dont believe me D:

[native onyx]

relatable

[bold quiver]

u can play for 1 year and had a horrible acc cuz u dont know what to focus on

this aint a mindless incremenetal game where u just do daily quest and dmg keeps increasing

[signal osprey]

Can confirm

I've been playing for about a year now and my account is pretty ass

[opaque sun]

Good old endgame days when we used to flex on how we got platinum coin on the afk info for rams

[bold quiver]

yeah there are some big sinkholes of progression in this game kkkkkkkkkkk when u realize u already wasted 2-3 months

[steep cipher]

I mean, if you have NBLB and login daily and nothing else, you’ll see dmg increase over time

[opaque sun]

Which was just 2 years ago or so

[bold quiver]

at lesat u had fun!

[bold quiver]

yeah by doing the math after 10 years

[signal osprey]

If your damage increases are only coming from nblb then you dont deserve to kill kruk

Like I get not everyone likes minmaxing every detail of a game but you cant possibly expect results if you dont at least put in some effort

[opaque sun]

“I have not worked anything related to damage for 2 years, why my damage has not increased?”

[bold quiver]

true, this game is not forgiving kkkkkkkkkk (fortunately or unfortunately lol

[untold saffron]

best W3 splicing map?

[signal osprey]

Staches iirc

[untold saffron]

cheers

[hardy bloom]

how to close the gap between my vman's dmg with my other charas? my other charas that are fighting have average 150m dmg, however my vman is at 18m

[bold quiver]

1/10 is what i heard

[signal osprey]

Vman always has less damage

[hardy bloom]

oh so its normal then, i thought i could close the gap to half of the avg dmg

[opaque sun]

being roughly 1/10 (without using looty curse) is normal

[hardy bloom]

i guess ill build him magma first then

[rustic garnet]

Closing the gap would require you passing the other chars in progress

[signal osprey]

If I had to guess I would say my vman could get like 500b damage if I moved some gear around. Most of my drop rate farmers have like 5T damage and my SB has like 15T

Vman just doesn't deal damage

[rustic garnet]

Not only that, his skills suck for the majority

[bold quiver]

i just realized that this is a very important bubble that i didnt remember existed lol

ops

[opaque sun]

One day, we will smith 1050m threads every second so that we can secondly click luck bubbles

[rustic garnet]

Post your IE, I'm sure we could find some other things for you

[signal osprey]

Yeah I started doing void clicks recently

And I already atomed the warrior one to 95%

They're really good bubbles

[bold quiver]

nice

[rustic garnet]

I find it crazy you won't share your IE, it just smacks of alarm

[bold quiver]

yeah they are insane. I forgot cuz i was focusing on other stuff lol

[bold quiver]

dont care

ive shared my IE many times already here, sry if u didnt catch it

[hardy bloom]

you guys remember what r usually those bubbles are? like are those bubbles contributing to dmg or to skilling

[opaque sun]

only really need one slot of oak print for particles, other slots of ore and log prints should be for those hourly bubbles

[bold quiver]

I dont. But its mostly for prints

[hardy bloom]

aight thanks sir

[graceful bramble]

What are the best maps for CC? I cann't one shot W4 stuff yet, tried rams but i am kinda low on that one too

[opaque sun]

not one shot even soda cans?

[bold quiver]

prob not the best time for CC then. But maybe mimics at w2

seems like a good map for canisters flying lol

[runic girder]

Obviously you wont find it like that

[signal osprey]

Can't search for it that way

[rustic garnet]

I found it ;_)

You'r right though

[bold quiver]

didnt even comment cuz it was dumb lol

[opaque sun]

having bubo, but cant one shot them sounds like lot of serious issues

[bold quiver]

cmon, thats the bubo experience!. U get bubo, realize your poison does 0 dmg and never get back to it lol

[opaque sun]

or watched too many adult (endgame) pics and compared to your own bubo cc seconds

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk happened to me lol, harsh reality

[rustic garnet]

That's all I wanted to see

[bold quiver]

my souls... yeah thats weird

but thanks for reminding me, my soul siphon is almost full need to do it

[opaque sun]

“Its okay hun. 20k seconds is enough. Dont compare your size with the 400k seconds of endgamers”

[signal osprey]

I mean 20k is enough though for people at that stage of the game

When half your bubbles are level 20 you need any help you can get

[bold quiver]

yeah i started at 20k or so at soda cans, helped a lot

[signal osprey]

I remember when I first started doing flombs I was amazed at how good it was

And I was 3 ticking them

It was still great progress

[opaque sun]

People were doing floms during the max level 160 era where like 70k was endgame numbers

[rustic garnet]

np, we had a chat yesterday where you said you had 1 billion souls with 1 billion efficiency and I was very much curious as to how you achieved a billion of all the souls but the last one

[signal osprey]

I started doing flombs after W5 launch when people were getting fury and the aura meta was beginning

But we all gotta start somewhere

Its mostly the vman talent for souls

Efficiency is nice but it falls off hard

Also construction too. Pushing max TD waves increases base souls

Which then gets increased by efficiency, vman, and worship food

[rustic garnet]

Yeah, I understand completely @signal osprey I was just really curious as he said he had 1 billion souls already, and I wanted to see how he achieved it... Turns out it was a misunderstanding and he has 10 million of most

[signal osprey]

Did he already spend the billion?

I have a few million of most

But I also have 4 vials done

So they were a billion

[rustic garnet]

actually yeah, he's vial'd them

not the bigger one, just the first

and second

[dreamy spruce]

when do I start soul siphoning again?

[rustic garnet]

What do you mean Pimere?

[stiff prairie]

When you no longer care about other characters gaining worship

[dreamy spruce]

What skill lvl do I want all my chars to have before I use soul siphon on ES

[opaque sun]

Basically when done with worship mastery

[signal osprey]

Get everyone at least high enough to use all skulls

[rustic garnet]

I think 1k total levels is a good cutoff

[opaque sun]

Vman wants to use his own charge for his worship/critter talent, but thats about it

[rustic garnet]

alternatively if you don't really care for the 25% exp at the end

[chrome lantern]

Is Wurm Catacombs strat rattler looter mono 2refillers defender and just pray RNG doesn’t screw you?

[rustic garnet]

the most important one there is at 500

[signal osprey]

70 is the minimum for the highest skull. After that its up to you how far you go

I did everyone to 100 personally

[dreamy spruce]

oh its that high? damn

[signal osprey]

But thats not really necessary

[rustic garnet]

it goes very, very fast

[opaque sun]

Mman doesnt really need to care about keeping worship levels over es as i think the hands somehow specifically doesnt work on worship efficiency

[signal osprey]

Right hand works for worship

[rustic garnet]

Topbird -- it does, just Diminishing returns at high levels

[brittle beacon]

What is the point of limiting the rarity of chests in sailing? Don't rarer chests overwrite less-rare chests anyway?

[signal osprey]

It just doesn't matter because worship efficiency is log based

[rustic garnet]

aye

[dreamy spruce]

ah

[opaque sun]

food has much more impact

[rustic garnet]

It's way more important early on

[rustic garnet]

as in soul food?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

[chrome lantern]

oh wait wtf I just assumed I lost since I only left it going for 10 minutes, but I beat it. why tf did the second to last territory battle take an hour with like a sixth of the overall health

[opaque sun]

Trapping also in similar as efficiency doesnt do much in increasing critters as much

[opaque sun]

The food effect bonus to boost soul gum is big

[rustic garnet]

oh right

[opaque sun]

But hands hardly does much for souls

[green eagle]

These whippersnappers don’t realize how good they have it. 👴🏻 we used to walk uphill both ways to make our alchemy progress, and we were grateful!!

[signal osprey]

[opaque sun]

kof basically now just a worship trophy

critter baron did more damage on SB than KOF, and even that is now surpassed by divine trophy

[bold quiver]

? i didnt say i had 1 billion souls, i said i was finishing the last vial (the squishy one) cuz the last one was no mans land lol

[signal osprey]

Nah orange souls are easy

[bold quiver]

i dont even have 1B green souls cuz its not worth

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkk gimme 140 wave there and i'll start

[signal osprey]

Not currently possible

[bold quiver]

at least i'll finish squishy souls pretty fast with wave 130 there

and my extra vman level booost

my epoch level was 170 last time i claimed souls, now i wil get it to 210-220 probably

[opaque sun]

oj map good for farming, but terrible map for TD

[bold quiver]

i wasted a ton of souls maxing out some prayers for no reason lol

i still feel like its harder to finish critter vials than souls e_e

[signal osprey]

800% soon

And my critters and souls are going roughly the same speed. Im done with 4/5 for each

Souls are ahead on the 5th vial but I also stopped to finish my bunny card so thats part of it

[rustic garnet]

Is the auto havest function good enough?

For traps?

[signal osprey]

Its less efficient than manually claiming 10 hr traps but assuming you dont care about that then yeah its fine

[opaque sun]

irl time and clicking are resources too, best to make good use of that

[bold quiver]

thats good. My critter is rly behind its only 1/5. But one of the main reasons is that i had to do a lot of critters for other stuff, so wasted too much time. But even then i'd still be 2/5. My critter gain is so shitty doing 20h traps

[graceful bramble]

Do i have to craft traps for every char or is there a trick to craft the best one and rotate it around?

[opaque sun]

for QoL you would want to make w4 royal traps for everyone, for the trap slots

But if you can manage, you only need one w4 royal trap and one w5 trap to trap on everyone

[graceful bramble]

But that would mean i have to equip it to all my chars everytime i am setting the traps aigh?

Wondering if there is any loop hole there hehe

[opaque sun]

the “if you can manage” route, yes takes lot of time transferring the w4 trap

[graceful bramble]

Oh well, i guess i am crafting them for all the chars

[opaque sun]

Making 9 w4 trap is highly advised so you only need to worry giving the w5 trap between bm and vm

[graceful bramble]

ty for the insight 🙂

[opaque sun]

W5 trap basically only offers slight more trap power, so not really needed honestly

And trap critters doesnt scale much with efficiency anyway

[graceful bramble]

Also do i need to worry upgrading the traps for everyone but the hunter?

upgrading as in upgrade stones

[chrome lantern]

Does breeding level affect max pet power

cause I don’t have enough fight power for wurms rn currently crying too

[serene solstice]

can anyone tell me why I lose on exp multi with every character I switch to after lvling one?

like my one dk had 21x multiplier the one after 20x

and now my ES hast 17.57x

all had same stuff

[opaque sun]

Like do you have the super bits for more exp on the lowest character?

[serene solstice]

yeah but my lowest character is my bm

and it didn't change

I lvled my dks before

[primal bison]

Who’s got a link or images saved of the shutdown Idleon spreadsheet guide?

[opaque sun]

i think it might be on some web.archive

[frail mauve]

https://web.archive.org/web/20230403011952/https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSnlrC_6oW7P89Os4uECnEB_XOVr6TlPa-QhTC62DrtLnRkzQi1UAMnrEZassEaAQb6Cr3TEZAiSVvz/pubhtml#

[primal bison]

Word. Thank you

[frail mauve]

Npnp

[vestal yew]

aside from getting a captain with better artifact find chance, is there any other way to increase chances of getting an artifact?

I'm trying to get the fury relic. all my boats are under 300k speed so it takes 6-18 hours to get it done, but I'm trying to rush for the relic for the lvl 200+ tent on my bubo

[fervent yew]

Better chests, if you can get the ancient arrowhead relic that'll help due to the passive better rarity chests, else you just need to keep checking your treasure pile regularly. Its an early one to get, and that'll help you find all arti's that little bit more easily / help you get more from each chest, if only a little.

[graceful rivet]

How much multikill per tier should I have b4 I try using blood warrior to farm out 1 bullion kills

[fervent yew]

Alot. If you have 100% and 23-24x multiplier, you'll still only be getting 1m kills an hour, which means you'll take literal months to reach 1,000,000,000 kills

[opaque sun]

Id say 5m/hr on gmush

[dreamy spruce]

for 1bil kills? would take 200h per mob isnt that a little slow?

[opaque sun]

If anything below 5m/hr, kind of a sign you wont have enough candies to do much 1b

[dreamy spruce]

or is it not really possible to go a lot higher

[fervent yew]

yes, if you had 5m/hr like Top suggested, then that'll only take you 8 days of afk to hit 1bil

[opaque sun]

And bb isnt really for 1b

[fervent yew]

thats a point you only want 100m if you're super chowing on BB, the eclipse skull is acrost all kills on account

[opaque sun]

100m on bb is fine, but the rest of 900m should be done on SB or ES

[dreamy spruce]

would you do it active or afk?

[opaque sun]

Active just for deathnote is not worth

[vestal yew]

which chest do you mean? Doesnt the wooden chest have the highest chance of getting the relic? I already have the relic that I can change the minimum chest returned pile

[opaque sun]

anything that can be done afk, should be done afk, especially if it can be done with candy

[fervent yew]

no, higher rarity chests give better chances at the artifact. the chance to get is the chance for you to get a given chest tier. Don't use the minimum chest pile, you're better off with 15 wooden chests than only 4-5 iron chests

Miracle chests for example have 30x artifact chance that a wooden chest has

[vestal yew]

oh okay, that chart on the wiki is a bit confusing lol

is there a way to buy miracle chests for a specific island?

[fervent yew]

it means you're going to get wooden chests 75% of the time.

no, and i wouldn't buy the miracle chests from the shop unless you're whaling, you could get anything from any island you've unlocked

[vestal yew]

yeah, I guess I just need to be more patient. I just really want this lvl 200+ tent. Would totally change the game for me

[opaque sun]

miracle chests are basically just 30 wooden chests from a random island

Really bad buy if you look at it that way

[vestal yew]

https://liquidrope.idleonefficiency.com

maybe I should invest in sailing speed? its taking forever to get my chests, I dont think I'll get the fury artifact anytime soon

[opaque sun]

bottled wind would give better results in that sense

[vestal yew]

nvm I just used bottled wind I forgot I had and got the relic lmfao

thanks lava

[fervent yew]

grats~

i only got ancient fury earlier today myself, and i've been sailing for months x3 dont have the library checkouts to make use of it yet though, saving up 20 is a pain without using skulls on them for the last few

[vestal yew]

Yeah.... for now the regular version is fine. Its going to take a long time to get ancient/eldrich

[stiff prairie]

How do i get think twice, speak once to work, do i just need to lvl divinity if i'm already over 25/50/w/e

nvm got it to work, it's a strange one

[tacit tulip]

in/out of the map a couple times usually gets it

guess I need to figure out what to do with my life now that I have vman recipe

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-plankton-i-dont-know-idk-i-never-thought-id-get-this-far-gif-15489594

[glad crow]

decided too do some cooking and gor it around about 1 e up

[tacit tulip]

I might do the crazy thing and make 10 w4 splicers

[dreamy spruce]

that takes like 2000 batteries right?

[tacit tulip]

yyyup

[glad crow]

is batteries easier than hampters?

[tacit pewter]

i thought about doing that too at one point, and ended up stopping at 1 🤣

[tacit tulip]

same drop rate

[stiff prairie]

The map looks more bubo friendly than moles.

[tacit tulip]

but ES portals would mean they're quicker

[stiff prairie]

Plus, ES kills tvs faster.

[opaque sun]

worst case, batteries can be done immediately with candies

[stiff prairie]

And Dk has better positioning on tv compared to moles

[glad crow]

then its easy

[tacit tulip]

my immediate candy use would be mega chow then death note tbh

waiting for my BB to hit 425 first for scarf

[glad crow]

"you younglings have it soo easy now, back in my day we only had a 11%, sometimes 12% respawn pendant too work with"

[fading cape]

when aiming for eclipse skulls and superchow, what's the best square obols for BB?

[tacit tulip]

honestly I'm probably just gonna ignore the obols apart from the afk% ones from kattle

[glad crow]

i would guess damage or strenght

[glad crow]

chiz might make a small difference

[tacit tulip]

fair point

[clever cradle]

does left and right hand work for lab and divinity?

ty

[tacit tulip]

Mman, being a w3 class only has functions for w1-3

[signal osprey]

I did it with fishing obols

[tacit tulip]

easiest way to remember

[clever cradle]

ahhhh

[dreamy spruce]

but you can get him in w2

[glad crow]

even tho vman is w4

[tacit tulip]

shhh

added during w5 tho 😄

[glad crow]

true

[tacit tulip]

hmm will need more pearlers to finish off my starfire tools too

I have most, just never finished off them all

[glad crow]

i think i have crafted around 20 dreadlo axes, and i havent gotten that perfect 88 skill power one yet :c

[tacit tulip]

that's a problem for a much later me

I just want to be in a situation with max gear on everyone

[bold quiver]

what is the dif between that with w5 stones and kattle?

[paper sail]

3 stat, 2 extra tool power per stone. 5 total slots would be 15 stat, 10 power. IF you roll that extra slot, then 18 and 12.

[pulsar cliff]

2 tool 3 main stat per stone

[bold quiver]

oh no, the gear dif. sry

so +10 weapon power and 15 extra main stats compared to w5 stones? yeaaah no way im ever trying th at

[tacit tulip]

The endgamers are a different type of crazy

They'#ll do it because it's possible

not because it's a good idea 😄

[paper sail]

They're trying for 6x successful kruk stones for a total of 88 choppin power. Using 5x W5 stones would just be 70.

[bold quiver]

its a good idea!

[glad crow]

AY.... dont you dare call me endgame.... im king of noobgame

[bold quiver]

oh yeah and they want the extra stats from SB craft

[tacit tulip]

what's max stone with guild buff, 67%?

[glad crow]

same reason that a 10% all stat tooth is the goal

[opaque sun]

68%

[bold quiver]

so instead of 5 slots on a pickaxe they will have 6

[glad crow]

yeah

[bold quiver]

to +12 weapon power and 18 main stats extra

[fading cape]

I know this is probably stupid. But it is so nice to not have to think about this anymore. Just go in and only 1 box to buy on anyone.

[dreamy spruce]

damn nice

[bold quiver]

damn madness. Not gonna lie i'd attempt that IF my item color changed!

[tacit tulip]

so a 10% chance to hit all 6 stones

[opaque sun]

Need to somehow get a better results than the expected 68% to make boss stone worth it

[tacit tulip]

ontop of rolling a perfect axe in the first place

oof

[opaque sun]

Which means lots of lots of trials

[bold quiver]

congrats dude big achiev. Now u can focus on getting daily arena tickets!

[fading cape]

exactly that

[pulsar cliff]

Dear printer. Please. For the love of god. Go brrrrrrr.

[paper sail]

Yall actually spend tickets?

[glad crow]

tbf, right now im not discarding an axe, if it rolls +1 slot, but only +2 wis.... im just looking for slot or not

[bold quiver]

who does lol

[fading cape]

Gotta wait for that W5 arena

[bold quiver]

u just hoard kkkkkkkkkk

[fading cape]

gonna cost 90 tickets

[quasi galleon]

Nope

[bold quiver]

see KKKKKKKKKKK

[tacit tulip]

I treat myself as a "lazy lategamer". I'm lategame, but not through any means of skill. I just plod along at my own pace and slowly achieve things 😂

[vestal yew]

are there any methods of obol farming that I dont know about? I've always ignored my obols...

[paper sail]

I spent a couple hundred tickets maxing out boss cards

[bold quiver]

not rly:
Pop obols = ES
Dice obols = DK
But ES can farm all obols pretty well, not the best but its decent

[paper sail]

Now they're backto accumulating

[fading cape]

I mean eventually you'll get there right? And if you don't, new content will get you there faster anyway

[quasi galleon]

obol frags = DK

[glad crow]

i dont think i have ever heard a better definition of my playstyle/progress than that 😄

[tacit tulip]

I'll never be endgame, I'm not sweaty enough. Happy to just be a guy who helps out in the last world chat 😄

[pastel bramble]

if u mean for fragments crabcakes is really good, bosses are good too for efaunt especially

[vestal yew]

well now I remember why I ignored obols lol

[bold quiver]

cmon just gotta play everyday and keep upgrading stuff slowly. U wil get there

minmaxer are the true top of the notch the game has

[quasi galleon]

W1 = most frags per hour if actively trashing
W2 = most frags per hour if not actively trashing. The more afk you are, the more your filter will help.

[tacit tulip]

Yeah but that's so much effort

[fading cape]

I farm obols at sandy pots on DK. I get both statues up for a bit and they rack up. Plus I need the glass shards anyway

[glad crow]

also a good thing about farming normal and chaotic bosses again, is the huge amount of obol frags i get out of it

[tacit tulip]

I'd rather just do things inefficiently any annoy people, it's more fun

[paper sail]

Frags are a problem until they aren't 🤷 I filtered them all the second we got filters and still have 10k of the original ~22k left

[bold quiver]

3 barbarian acc!

[tacit tulip]

that's Zin not me

[glad crow]

but have you rolled perfect obols yet

[tacit tulip]

I just have everyone in full kattle armour

it makes eyes twitch

[pastel bramble]

i got nothing to spend mine on anymore

[bold quiver]

oh yeah if u try to roll on flat stats obols its very very expensive

[paper sail]

I've rolled good enough obols.

[quasi galleon]

You could always try to get perfect rolls on things

[bold quiver]

cuz u cant upgrade from previous tier, so u always have to roll for max stat

[vestal yew]

for obols, I heard that you should stop combining them when they are gold level. Is this true?

[pastel bramble]

waiting for the time he releases more, im sure its gonna happen right

[glad crow]

im currently trying to get a full personal and family layout with godrolled chopping obols, and that needs alot of rerolling

[tacit tulip]

for some reason full kattle annoys people 😄

[pastel bramble]

depends on type, some turn to squares past gold if thats what u mean

[bold quiver]

people are mad!

[paper sail]

Yeah, I don't care about the peak rolls. If they get at least +1 WIS, I'm okay with it

[quasi galleon]

I'm more annoyed by the lack of rings

[tacit tulip]

I was moving about stat rings and just didn't replace them

[vestal yew]

well I'm just trying to understand what late game obols look like. Suqares I'm assuming are different, but for circles wouldnt people want the highest lvl stuff?

[tacit tulip]

reminds me I need to do happy hour

[pastel bramble]

i mean it depends on what u want ur classes to do, miners for example need all mining obols and then a kattle sparkle

[bold quiver]

i just couldnt bring myself to sacrifice the magma helmets cuz....... golden twines

[pastel bramble]

archers probably best with multikill etc.

[paper sail]

Depends on the goals and your storage. If you want Skilling Obols, which.. you do, they take up a LOT of space and may end up sitting on your characters rather than in storage

[vestal yew]

are archers best to sample mob drops since they are better with multikill?

[paper sail]

Vman best monster sampler

[tacit tulip]

Vman is best overall

[pastel bramble]

vman during voidrun they mean 😄

[vestal yew]

I still need to farm 1m kills on all mobs w1-3 :I

[bold quiver]

@quasi galleon do u know the dif between skilling with for example: Wisdom obols + Kattle vs Chopping obols + Kattle obols? on sample size

[pastel bramble]

@vestal yew this is drop-rate for family setup

[quasi galleon]

It's called trial and error lol

[pastel bramble]

except the popop hex, thats incorrect should be dice 😄

[bold quiver]

cuz if its some good dif like 10% or so i can bring myself to start farming them

[vestal yew]

gol dang

[quasi galleon]

I'm only using skilling obols though, not wisdom obols

[paper sail]

It depends on your progression. Early game, the flat choppin power is worth more. Late game, the AFK is worth more.

[vestal yew]

how much damage do you need to do kattlekrunk?

[bold quiver]

yeah i wish i knew the dif to know if its actualy worth

[pastel bramble]

alot, varies depending on char type too

bubo can do kattle easily with little damage if u have 3s cooldown cause they cant heal it, but blood berserker struggles with less than 500b 😄

[opaque sun]

full cattle gear knowingly for a lazy qol is fine. Just pisses off people if assuming its the best gear

[paper sail]

Fix that Hex POP, heathen

[vestal yew]

starting to reach end of world 5 sorta... Still have a lot of work to do but just trying to get a frame of reference to how much damage I'll sort of need.... I'm only at 40m on my bubo atm

[pastel bramble]

i already said i need too im just lazy 😂

[bold quiver]

imagine going to sample without magma gear! your eff drops a lot

[paper sail]

500b? You're nutty man. My BB cleared it with 100b no problemo

[tacit tulip]

for normal kattle you can probably do it with about 100m sheet damage

[pastel bramble]

account leveled up and i unlocked the slot and didnt have a regular 😄

[vestal yew]

coo so I'm making good progress I suppose

[pastel bramble]

how u do it with 100b, how long it took u? lol

3hrs?

[tacit tulip]

100b bb is fine

like, 10 mins

[paper sail]

It was full auto for 2-3 minutes

Not a big deal

[vestal yew]

wow bubo with 200 tent is a game changer

[pastel bramble]

i have 150b dmg bb and my auto attack doesnt clear it

can i see ur hotbar setup

[astral knoll]

who could use it?

[paper sail]

I'm sure it is very standard. Str > Fire > explosion > claw > the multi-slice thingy > axe > the 2 basic warrior attacks

But that was a while ago now and BB has way more damage now lol

[pastel bramble]

standard lol i use way diff 😄

[bold quiver]

anyone u want more dmg

[pastel bramble]

i was using this, ill try ur way 😄

[paper sail]

Why on earth do you have Taunt on

[pastel bramble]

not on for the fight

i know it heals 😄

[paper sail]

Just.. in general

[pastel bramble]

increases afk gains

[bold quiver]

gotta mock those monsters

[paper sail]

Does it? 🤔

[bold quiver]

no way! im testing it

[paper sail]

I've never seen it make a difference

[pastel bramble]

well mine go up when i activate it before afking

so 🤷

[bold quiver]

it didnt increase mine D:

[pastel bramble]

i only have 1 point into it

[tacit tulip]

there's no real reason not to use it tbh

either you're oneshotting the mobs or you're not, and if you're not why are you there?

[pulsar cliff]

Ran out of liquid. Back to Bubo.

[bold quiver]

maps are very layout related + everything so i wont doubt u lol. Like fire up. it increases KPH on most maps i use

but gotta go offline fast before it ends

[paper sail]

Yup. Get that attack speed baby

[pastel bramble]

ur missing ur heart skill from ur hotbar @paper sail

u dont use it?

[tacit tulip]

probs just second page

[paper sail]

Ah. Yeah, it is there

[pastel bramble]

is this bubble worth atoming

how much does the dmg actually increase

[bold quiver]

there are better bubbles. But get to atom range at least

[opaque sun]

it gets better and better, but if to atom i would do the quick slap one

[bold quiver]

mine is still very behind

[pastel bramble]

what cauldron colour is quick slap

ah green i found it, yh that one is low too 😄

[opaque sun]

green base damage bubble

[paper sail]

Doesn't stack super quick, yeah

[bold quiver]

hmm doesnt seem that good compared to the movement speed one

[paper sail]

Yeah, I lean harder into the green and purple variants

[opaque sun]

all 3 of the base bubbles scales exponentially, purple is easy to hourly click since gold ores. So out of orange and green, the move speed one is more noticeably reflected to damage on all 4 class archetypes

[pastel bramble]

what levels do u guys have ur base stat cauldrons at, the first bubble in each cauldron

is 1000 a good base number for those 4?

[bold quiver]

hmmm

[bold quiver]

yes 1k is good

[lone plinth]

For gaming is it better to wait for a certain stage of evolution before harvesting? Like in general outside of waiting for the evolutions for the log book.

[opaque sun]

Base stat bubbles are hourly clickable, so kind of waste to atom it

Except for luck of course

[pastel bramble]

they are cheap to atom while u cant afford other bubbles though 😄

[bold quiver]

what if u dont have the patience to hourly click it

[pastel bramble]

and better than wasting ur daily uses

[paper sail]

No reason to stop

[opaque sun]

base stat atom is if you really dont have any other atom options and want to dump the remaining tries of the day

[bold quiver]

hmm i see

makes sense

[pastel bramble]

im generating like 80k atoms a day atm, so most bubbles i cant afford to atom constantly

so majority of my daily uses go into base stats atm

[pulsar cliff]

I'd probably dump as much of my atom shots into printer scaling bubbles, and put the remainder there.

[paper sail]

Are your bub2s seeing some too, I hope?

[pulsar cliff]

there = main stats

[dreamy spruce]

do different bubbles cost different amounts of atoms to level?

[pulsar cliff]

The tier is all that dictates the atom price.

[paper sail]

More expensive the higher up they are

Tier and material cost

[dreamy spruce]

Alright, thanks!

[pulsar cliff]

Sorry - Yes. After everything is over the 1b, it's the same lol

[paper sail]

Right

[tacit pewter]

liquid costs still slowly go up though keep that in mind

[paper sail]

So Call Me Bob will continue scaling until 1.85k atoms, then that is as high as it ever goes

[bold quiver]

oh i had a picture with all max values D

[paper sail]

Somewhere in #1084911530417606656 unless it got deleted

[pulsar cliff]

For skilling samples, is there a point where doubling Food Effect makes more sense than doubling Amorak AFK? Since always going to double troll.

[paper sail]

Speed up to 62/min could win, yes

Worth testing

[bold quiver]

true

[pulsar cliff]

Sorry, any chance that's something you could explain a little more? My brain isn't processing.

[tacit pewter]

been trying to get eldrich fury for a couple weeks so far and nothing! any tips i should know about or just keep rolling chests till it happens?

[fervent brook]

Are there any skills I should not put on the hotbar if running Active ES?

[pulsar cliff]

An animal sacrifice might not go amiss.

But really it's just a hunker down and wait.

I personally turned off the siege breaker ability that rolls chests over.

[signal osprey]

Skilling speed caps at 62/min

And as for doubling food effect the answer would be no. Amarok and Ctroll will be better even if you aren't speed capped

[pulsar cliff]

Ah. Well that's straightforward.

[opaque sun]

and 62/min cap is easily reached now with vman statue effect talent

[indigo vector]

I have over 500 items in slab but rubix cube still says 0% Dmg bonus

[echo crag]

reload the map

[pulsar cliff]

^

[indigo vector]

It worked ty

[paper sail]

Ice shard and lightning bolt tend to suck

[prisma drift]

The page one bolt not the ES lightning tho

[tall horizon]

Lightning bolt is big damage. Ice shard and energy bolt suck

[paper sail]

Yeah sorry. The mage skill, not the ES akill

[tight ridge]

This is my setup

for active^

[bleak gazelle]

I love discord cropping

[fading cape]

3 months at 16,903

[lapis mesa]

so happy for you

ill break 10k one of these days

[fading cape]

Honestly I wish this feeling on everyone. I hope all your golden nuggets hit 5 figures

[bold quiver]

eugh fireball

[tight ridge]

its fast so no harm

and does some respectable damage

[bold quiver]

i cant even keep perma casting my skills without it kkkkk

[runic token]

we need 1000 camels, hurry!

[fervent brook]

Thanks.

Lava should really add a atom upgrade for nugget lol.

[glad crow]

which class is best too farm efaunt on?

like which does the hands best with minimum effort?

[dreamy spruce]

probably es with the purple ball?

[sick sentinel]

yeah chainbolt is good for efaunt

vman would be better if his cd wasnt so long

im sure dk is decent with catching your boomerang, but havent tried myself

[slim rose]

Is there a meta for orb kc on dk? Ive found oj bay to be the best

[glad crow]

whats the cooldown on chainbolt?

[dreamy spruce]

8s or 9s

[echo crag]

8s

so 7.2 wit po box

[sick sentinel]

i havent done ojs in a while so idk what the number are for there but wurms is great if you can do that too, better exp/money/and boss keys on the side as well

[dreamy spruce]

I count 9s of cooldown (without po box)

[slim rose]

Not to that map yet but i will keep pushing

[sick sentinel]

true

[twin token]

Is it worth going to island 7 or should I just go straight to 8 so I can get closer to fury

[rustic garnet]

Egman

can you send ships to the next Island in good speed?

[twin token]

Yes

Lemme check

[rustic garnet]

My recommendation is to keep ships on the highest island they can go in the time you normally 'afk' for

i.e. if you check every 4 hours, aim for a 4 hour turn around

you don't want your ships sitting idle in port

(for too long)

you also get to 'queue' ships in

so if you are good, and check every 4 hours and your ships are on a 2 hour window, it depends on how many chests you have

say, if you have 20 chests and 20 boats, you can 'store' 40 chests total

if you have 10 boats and 20 chests, you can do 30... but 3 journies each

I'd also not be against splitting your boats around to the islands that are 'good' for them

say some boats are faster, move them forward

some are slower, keep them behind

[noble mesa]

F me , what an artical

[rustic garnet]

That costs more

[twin token]

Oh ok I've just been trying to get as many of my boats up as possible

[fathom lagoon]

What island is fury

[fathom lagoon]

Thank you Nate76

You Must be happy w all those soldier buffs

[rustic garnet]

😄

[fathom lagoon]

Soldier mercy pocket every game now

[pure spindle]

Any idea on what the double will apply to

Soemthing daily ig

[fathom lagoon]

It’s probably double something

[pure spindle]

Good thinkin

[dreamy spruce]

double the amount of chips whenever you buy one ?

[full walrus]

what helps more early in sailing, speed or loot value?

[valid ledge]

is this an ok setup?
i am just getting all my charectors to the end of w5
They almost done anyways
but should i change smth?
my week about to end in just 16 hours

[rustic garnet]

speed

and it's not even close

[valid ledge]

(omni on labslaves, bird on vman, and nobis on w5 pushers)

[rustic garnet]

I guess I could turn my labslaves off div gain

but hariep for printing is way better

isn't it?

[valid ledge]

i already got all gods that have a bonus have been unlocked
so i dun wanna do div again

[valid ledge]

yes ig
but i am not looking formward to printing

thats going on fine

[rustic garnet]

I don't understand why not?

Printing is a huge part of the progression path

[valid ledge]

nvm
i havnt payed any atention to printing recently

so i dont have good prints

[rustic garnet]

Well, 6x print is better than not?

[valid ledge]

to use preint god

[rustic garnet]

re-sample

stop slack

[valid ledge]

(nah, i am way too lazy)

[rustic garnet]

then don't suggest a bad god setup based on you being lazy 😉

[dreamy spruce]

he wasnt suggesting tho

he was just asking if it was fine

[rustic garnet]

what is meant by fine?

because no, it's not really fine, but if you already are saying 'I don't care, I am ok with it' then why ask?

[dreamy spruce]

true

[valid ledge]

i have gone a bit more than nessary with vman printing slack
but eh

[rustic garnet]

you should b printint oak and copper

[valid ledge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/438216759120756737/1132907274520772688/TunaB.gif

[rustic garnet]

for atoms

[valid ledge]

i do print these for atoms
but they def arnt as good as they suppoed to be...but my miner rn pushing w5...

il just do a quick switch soon enough

[rustic garnet]

So, you didn't really have a question then ;_)

You weren't accepting anything but 'sure'

[valid ledge]

another thing would be that my vman skiling kinda slowed down to almost nothing ness
any thing i should make my vman do?

[dreamy spruce]

why is your copper sample higher than your oak sample?

[rustic garnet]

it's fine 😉

[valid ledge]

i have no idea

[rustic garnet]

My copper is higher too btw!

[dreamy spruce]

oh okay

[rustic garnet]

and if I resampled

I bet I'd smash the 100 m easily

[valid ledge]

then why dont you?

[rustic garnet]

I'm progressing well and barely doubling a sample isn't a big grab

[valid ledge]

ohk

[rustic garnet]

if it was a 4 or 5x boost, would be doing it

not even remotely in the same ballpark my dude