lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸

[fathom lagoon]

@opaque sun you were right purrmep doesn’t count

[opaque sun]

Its likely due to how lava wanted to prevent purrmep sail/gaming minor effect applying 10 times

and only way for him to lava code it was to make it an independent mechanic from doot

[fathom lagoon]

True that. I’m trying to unlock purr rn lol, good to know my div/sailing/gaming going to increase a good bit when I do

[opaque sun]

The 2x div part should still apply tho

[fathom lagoon]

Ah but wouldn’t that act the same way as the sailing/gaming effect

Since it effects everyone

[opaque sun]

dunno how lava coded it, but seems he coded the main effect and minor link bonus differently

[fathom lagoon]

Gotcha

[fast verge]

wait how does the +15 talent lvl work

[fathom lagoon]

We’ll I’ll lyk soon as I unlock purr lol

[opaque sun]

having doot activates the purrmep’s main effect, but he couldnt do it without activating the minor effect 10 times i suppose

[fathom lagoon]

Well the +# talent will scale w your div level but it adds points to any skills above 1 point

[fast verge]

i see

[opaque sun]

probably due to how minor gets affected by big p/div levels maybe, while main effect can be a static effect

[fathom lagoon]

So +15 is max bonus I believe

[fast verge]

oh wow.

[flint viper]

The first pin for divinity suggestions is still the way to go? My plan was to have everyone sit in div till level 15 to get everyone on mantra to get more div levels and rush the higher levels, but its better to just get the div points early?

[fathom lagoon]

Stay on the second style til lvl 40 is what I hear, try to unlock goat by then

[flint viper]

omg that is gonna take forever.

[opaque sun]

Get everyone to mantra, have those mages focus on self exp/pt getting ones, while others helps the mages to level with mantra

[hoary light]

ok so the DK skill that increases printer output, Does it have to be active at all times to effect the printer, or just when you take the sample?

[fathom lagoon]

Isn’t it a passive skill?

[flint viper]

this one sounds good too

[opaque sun]

printer buff is the machine, samples is what you feed to the machine. Sample numbers doesnt change

[signal osprey]

It doesnt increase your samples it increases how much you print based on that sample so its like the lab 2x or harriep 3x buffs

[hoary light]

yeah on one of my talent loadouts I don't have enough to spec into it and don't know if that's bad or not lol

[signal osprey]

You need it active all the time

[hoary light]

got it thanks

[lapis mesa]

WTB Ancient fury.. Pl0x

[raven fog]

Is there a way to farm colo tickets?

[opaque sun]

po box order 6 effectively is

[dapper dome]

Is there a sailing guide for how much speed for minimum time ?

[opaque sun]

When you have way more pens than you can spend regularly (and you eventually will), you would reset the order 6 until ticket appears as a reward. Due to scaling costs you can farm like 20-30 tickets a day this way

1/2 speed of distance of island gets to default min timer of 2hr

So if a island says 100m, you need 50m speed on ship to reach there and return with chest in 2 hrs

[modern plaza]

it just might as well activate the minor effect 10x

[wanton obsidian]

!gear

[obtuse orbit]

Gear Recommendations

[modern plaza]

its like 104min or something, close to 2hrs

[fading dust]

How does splicing scale?

Like what gets me the most dna

[bright current]

2 mina of afk

[twilit goblet]

Somehow i find pen farming insanely rewarding since po boxes are still huge for the bonuses they give. Ultimatly though once most key boxes are filled, is this the main use of pens

to just do po box 6 to get colo tickets ?

[bright current]

The shorter the claim the more you get from a time to gene scale

Obviously that means 1 hour time candy is best if ur using candies for it

[fading dust]

Ah okay it's only based on time and not kills?

[opaque sun]

eventually, yeah you would do like 20-30 orders of colo tickets, then intentionally remove the shield on po6 to reset the streak next day

[bright current]

More kills is more genes

[opaque sun]

lava made it so that longer the afk, the gene per kills diminish

[twilit goblet]

at that point, pens are a byproduct rather than something you farm for huh

[bright current]

U want the map for the respective world with highest kills/h

[fading dust]

Ah okay sosplice on strongest character

[opaque sun]

the splicing diminishment happens immidiately, so theoretical best splicing is to claim every 2 min which is the minimum requirement for afk claims to happen

In practicality, claim like every hour or so

[fading dust]

What's best map for W-2 genes?

[bright current]

Can vary, but usually sand giants i think

Go thru each map and check ur afk kills

[opaque sun]

W1 frogs, W2 sand giants, W3 staches, W4 soda cans

For W1 people also do gmush to might as well work on the gmush kills

[bright current]

Theres some circumstances where you hit a sweet spot for a higher mk bracket on a good map, making it slightly better, no?

[opaque sun]

sometimes, but in general you would also get mk on the so called best map

[bright current]

Yea

[opaque sun]

There might be some small window where other maps works, but that window is small

[twilit goblet]

is mantra the fastest way to get div exp if i have 7 people sitting in lab?

i see double afk procs from time to time and wonder if changing them to vitalic is better, currently most are around lvl 33

also have div boxes maxed on some of them if that matters

[bleak gazelle]

guide mentioned using vitalic if your afk gains were > 50%, otherwise keep to mantra to allow everyone to level. take that how you will i think it's also predicated on unlocking goat, so you'd actually need div points

[twilit goblet]

yea i was following along guide, but im seeing a lot of double exp procs now so i was wondering

thanks

[manic moat]

how often does the atom collider make particles?

[opaque sun]

as often any of your materials surpass the threshold

So usually every hour when your printer triggers

Any material over the threshold is trashed, and the trashed amount is converted to particles

[manic moat]

sounds good. The reason why I asked was I checked my storage to find 170m copper and my threshold is 15m. as I asked the question, it all moved over.

[opaque sun]

by the way its bad idea to keep it anything but 1050m (basically, turn atom collider off)

[manic moat]

why?

just for the sake of needing the mats to upgrade other things?

[crisp silo]

vials req 1B mats

[opaque sun]

Game doesnt take in to consideration of value of each material, so 10m copper and 10m dreadlo gives same amount of particles

And many bubbles and vials require at 1b, so you are trading away other stuff you dont want to particle for a very very small one time particle to start

[manic moat]

good idea. Was trying to unlock each of the atom colliders perks first. should I not worry about that?

[opaque sun]

If you cant get the copper/oak to 1050m, its too early to worry atom anyway

[crisp silo]

could do the first few, they help quite a bit, last few get rly expensive

[manic moat]

I just got copper to 29m in printing. oak at 7m

up from like 60k

just got excited to make some particles I guess 🤣

[lavish quiver]

Put a little more focus on things that are for woodcutting if you can, oak should be much higher than copper.. personally my oak has always been double copper

[opaque sun]

mostly due to logs on logs being a great talent, oak samples would be higher than copper

[manic moat]

It's my vman, level chopping is 20 levels lower than mining at the moment

[lavish quiver]

Oh should sample on mage class

[opaque sun]

vman samples wont be great to begin with unless for mob materials during speed run

[manic moat]

no, my vman skill is low, I don't want my mage to pass their level

so my mage is skill level 62 and my warrios miner is level 82

[lavish quiver]

They wont get exp to just sample it

[opaque sun]

Most of log/ores comes from printing alone

[manic moat]

I just need to level up chopping skill for vman to get the eff boost for mage

[lavish quiver]

Luckily its the easiest skill to level

[foggy briar]

Any good build for afk farming apocalypse chow?

[opaque sun]

since you mentioned sampling on vman, we suspected maybe you were doing something wrong

[wary girder]

what's the best minimum chest to set at around lvl 23 sailing?

is this even a mechanic worth using

[manic moat]

yep, my wording has been aweful tonight...it's late

[opaque sun]

Since you wont bother to sample for a exping chopping

[wanton obsidian]

Pure dmg and kill per kill

[lavish quiver]

Dont use this mechanic

[opaque sun]

unless you idle for long time, minimum chest stays at wood

[foggy briar]

I get that, the problem is when it comes to tab 4

[wary girder]

yeah i didnt think so since unending loot search exists

[lavish quiver]

also not a great mechanic

[opaque sun]

unending is for exp, not really for farming btw

[wanton obsidian]

Skulls

The one that gives more kill

[opaque sun]

The upgrade chest doesnt happen as often as the number suggests

[wanton obsidian]

Also the talent that gives +1

[foggy briar]

Got that, any skills?

[wanton obsidian]

It won't affect your afk gains

Just 1 each i guess

[placid mural]

holy cow i cant imagine not having overnight progress

[manic moat]

is there a guide out there for shiny pets to keep in the fenceyard?

I feel like there are so many to juggle.

[frigid acorn]

What do you mean ,wait faster
Get all shiny speed lv5 first

[manic moat]

why level5? aren't there ones that don't really matter, like talent points?

aren't there ones that are more important to level up first?

[frigid acorn]

Lv6 take 90days to reaching ,so lv5 totally a good lv to stop at

And second priority was star sign i prefer

[manic moat]

I mean, that's all relative, no? I could argue 85 days for level 5 is a long time

[frigid acorn]

And you have to do all 70+ pets finishing all lv5 speed could giving alot of time reduction

Why wont just start the 1 giving boost ,instead only 2 talent points matter for that ?

This is not a must , just do what you like it is your account afterall

[opaque sun]

Level 5 just happens to be the general consensus of “its easy enough to grab those first 5 levels, but from that the cost kind of scales high”

[willow drum]

speed to shinys > star signs > critters > multikill per tier

[manic moat]

this is what I'm looking for, thanks

[frigid acorn]

1000 days to get a lv8 lets gooo

[viral snow]

Just build a time machine

[frigid acorn]

Jic this breeding w4 skill

[sharp vine]

I'm 2 pets away from being done with non-shiny breeding. BM putting in a lot of work this week

[uncut condor]

Just hit w5 a few days ago. Pulled my dudes out of lab and am finally working on deathnote for vman. Feels like I have so many different things I have to work on.

Breeding so neglected it depressing

[bleak gazelle]

Neglecting div too?

[uncut condor]

Doot 👀

[bleak gazelle]

You got level 2 at least, yeah?

[uncut condor]

Got some basic gains but vman looks tasty. Unlocked 4 gods

Yeah everyone is 10-15

I probably would have left them in longer but lab gameplay isn't exactly engaging and i had some time to play. Worked on prints so gameplan in to farm up w5 armor stones while I work on deathnote and save mats for void gear/weapons

[modern plaza]

pumping vman skill lvls up like a mofo... but there's nothing to speed up fishing 😦

[hexed elm]

https://bananagawker.idleonefficiency.com/ could anyone give me any tips on how i could improve lab leveling please? (for my characters currently in lab specifically)

[snow timber]

Is there an optimal setup for Lab and Divinity?

[sly plank]

feeling like my gaming progress has slowed quite a bit, what can I do to improve from here? anything obvious I’m missing? I’ve unlocked up to log, but 375k green to unlock pong seems so far off now

[sharp wind]

whats the goal to level for this bubble?

[opaque sun]

I stopped around 45% (800ish) on that one

[sharp wind]

does it get affected by 2nd bubble?

[opaque sun]

it should

[untold saffron]

What's the W4 splicing map?

[opaque sun]

soda cans

[hexed elm]

all passive bubbles are affected by 2nd bubble

[opaque sun]

Except for bubble 1, which was taken off from the affects list

[hexed elm]

implicitly that is the case yes

[sharp wind]

a little bit more til atom

[opaque sun]

sadly by the time its atom able, it reaches 300% cap

[untold saffron]

One less thing to think about at least

[sharp wind]

yeah but at least i got a couple times to atom

[untold saffron]

Some people atom it so that NBLB doesn't proc on it though

[sharp wind]

so i dont have to use discount all the time

[opaque sun]

atom to avoid nblb kind of defeats the purpose tho in a way

Unless you are done with atom other more viable ones

[untold saffron]

I agree, but people still do it

I'm working on getting all the main skilling bubbles to 500 right now then I'll push the ones I need to Higher

Got Larry to 101% first of course

[twilit goblet]

do you guys have a phase where you just print gmush caps to keep pumping 2nd bubble?

[zealous niche]

Get them to atom eligible on an off class and then you’re good

Have a stock for refinery then stop printing

[twilit goblet]

ah im pretty far away from it

only lvl 130 on my highest

[zealous niche]

Printing on vman from a speedrun sample?

Oof, that’s far yes

[twilit goblet]

yea on vman, Im saving atoms to atom larry but im wondering if i shud channel those atoms into collider upgrades instead?

[zealous niche]

Probably

Hard to say

[twilit goblet]

anything notable to upgrade on a big priority?

[zealous niche]

Most atoms are good to have a level or two in

[twilit goblet]

yea ive unlock up to cooking, but further upgrades tho. Most are at base lvl 1 at the moment

[zealous niche]

Helium is good but expensive, max lithium and hydrogen, nitrogen is nice to have some levels in

[twilit goblet]

im just trying to find what optimal to push samples harder faster, right now only 1.2k atoms per day

cool, appreciate the inputs, ill check out what these bubbles do and toss some atoms into them

[zealous niche]

Boron is good to level, but use up your atom upgrades first

[twilit goblet]

how about fluoride?

[zealous niche]

Most of your atom income comes from oak samples, so first three purple bubbles are priority to upgrade with atoms when you get them

[twilit goblet]

yea im now just trying to collect iron bars every 15 minutes and bring my multi tree odds to 300%

[zealous niche]

Decent

[twilit goblet]

then just slowly pump the relevant purple bubbles to bring oak up to get more atoms

[zealous niche]

I’m in the same stage, so can’t advise about what’s good next

[twilit goblet]

do you atom this or jsut keep printing sentient?

[zealous niche]

Pumping the chopping relevant bubbles

[twilit goblet]

yea i heard oaks gives you a lot more so im trying to hard focus trees

a lot more samples*

[zealous niche]

Haven’t been upgrading that yet

Don’t have enough sentients to make it atom eligible

[twilit goblet]

probably just dunk them into larry, to help each bubble upgrade in the future, slower but better

[zealous niche]

Balance that vs making oak samples better

More atoms mean easier larry upgrades, but more larry means easier oak upgrades

Probably about time to resample too..

[obsidian nacelle]

slow andddd steadyyyyyy

[untold saffron]

What power of 10 talents are there for helium other than the oak and copper ones?

[twilit goblet]

that's true... im due for time to resample but im going to just wait for tmrw's kraken chip, then farm out the chaotic troll, then go resample lul

just realise some are a lot cheaper and it doesnt cost a ton to raise their levels

[untold saffron]

Lithium is a cheap one to max for how strong it is

And hydrogen

[twilit goblet]

how many % does it give at max?

lithium

yea i might have to balance it around pumping bubbles and leveling

keep it bouncing

[untold saffron]

20%

[twilit goblet]

ty, pretty good indeed

[gaunt holly]

is there some "trick" to the gaming garden im not understanding? or is it as simple as it seems?

i bought the golden sprinkler, do i just spam it when its available or should i be working toward something

[solid haven]

imho...it's just a waiting game...

[steady token]

👀 like spam research when harvest?

[solid haven]

there are lots of bonuses to bits in other activities

[gaunt holly]

@steady token not sure what you mean, i just mean the golden sprinkler has a chance not to lose its charge

i usually just harvest all, then spam click the sprinkler until its emtpy

[sly plank]

am I safe to use one vman talent preset for his speed run talents and the other for leveling up all the bonuses for other characters?

just want to make sure there isn’t something I’m missing

[steady token]

a trick to unlock mutations by researching more often

[gaunt holly]

oh right well yeah i usually check in ~4-5 times a day so i research as much as possible

just seems really slow and wierd. like i should be doing something more

i only got to w5 like a week ago. im just not sure if im misunderstanding or its just slow

[steady token]

and max these from your DK

just research whenever you can

[gaunt holly]

ok cool thanks, yeah ive been putting points into the dk talents and im checking in regularly

i guess im doing it "right", just slow and confusing

[steady token]

and you can try get this by adjusting dk's bit talent level by level

it took me a lot of times though

[gaunt holly]

ah yeah im not really interested in min-max. just wasnt sure if there was something i was meant to be more aware of

[lavish quiver]

Thats to much work i just clicked until it happened

[sly plank]

what vman talents should I prioritize?

cooking speed?

[steady token]

you can simulate Bitty Litty talent at https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Divine_Knight. that's how I get lucky harvest, too much calculation though

[twilit goblet]

are there any recommendations for what obols to farm sets of after finishing DR?

[lavish quiver]

Build speed

[twilit goblet]

Cons obols personal set for DK ?

[lavish quiver]

Wont use on because you want the DR

[twilit goblet]

yea that's what i thought too lul

[lavish quiver]

You will snapshot from your BB

[twilit goblet]

i heard you could snapshot, how does that work?

switch to 2nd DK, open the cogs board, close nd switch char?

[steady token]

yes

[twilit goblet]

interesting, i shud farm a set and place it on 2nd dk

[lavish quiver]

Then dont open the cogs or it unsnaps but you can look at your building

[twilit goblet]

upgrading is fine too?

[steady token]

build rate only changes when you open cog board/change map

[twilit goblet]

hold up, so i cant change map too in new char

[lavish quiver]

No you will get to the map you want to farm at then snapshot

[twilit goblet]

ah okay that makes sense

after build speed, i reckon a worshipping set?

then a trapping set/other skilling obols as i get them?

[lavish quiver]

I just got done farming a family set of build speed as well to snapshot all of it

[twilit goblet]

damn

how much does it boost you?

[lavish quiver]

Havent tested it yet, but just the person set is like over double

[twilit goblet]

that's a lot of gains, definitely worth the grind

[zinc torrent]

Biggest buff to snail is actually that you go into upgrading it with : fuck it we ball energy.
This manipulates the desire sensor giving you snail upgrade every time because you have no fear. Change my mind

[twilit goblet]

works 100% of the time until it fails (i dont have snail unlocked yet tho)

[zinc torrent]

Thats the spirit

[lavish quiver]

just personal is a 56% increase to build rate to me, personal and family is a 140% increase

[zinc torrent]

I finally got big bits MSA which pushed me from barely making green Qs into making 100 in just one harvest.

Also remembered that bits have a use outside of gaming and upgraded my gods a decent bunch

[lavish quiver]

Oh thanks i forgot snail gamba time

Failed

[covert sphinx]

is sandstone collo bugged? Im stuck and no mobs are spawning

[twilit goblet]

gotta let the nodes despawn

[opaque sun]

stop using HP prayers

[lavish quiver]

Do you have Midas?

[opaque sun]

skill nodes decay when their HP runs out

[steady token]

💀 remove midas, it affect nodes hp too

[lavish quiver]

Stupid mechanic

[twilit goblet]

lmao i didnt know that, iwas asking why my w2 colo took so long 2 days ago too

[opaque sun]

Its because nodes used to deplete (that is why there are so many mining nodes)

[lavish quiver]

Oh interesting i wasnt around that far back, sound awful

[opaque sun]

now lava made those nodes with infinite HP

[zinc torrent]

Game design

[opaque sun]

Active skilling was a thing, but that depleting nodes made it awful

[crisp silo]

Common lava code L

[steady token]

does TranQi style gives less div exp for active character?

[zinc torrent]

Active skilling was how i got levels really early since afk gains were traaaash at that stage

[gentle furnace]

it doesnt give exp to active char

[steady token]

I thought it is about the double xp offline characters get

[zinc torrent]

Div does not give active exp ever afaik

[steady token]

even if you active afk on the altar?👀

[deep rose]

guys is there any news on when world 6 or higher will be released

[twilit goblet]

yooo 4 biggie cards after learning midas mind making it slow

[zinc torrent]

Was my understanding. Anyone smarter than me knows this for sure?

[solid haven]

I recently got the keychain doubler chip. Is it me or is it kinda useless...?
If it isn't, what character / activity do you suggest to use it on?

[zinc torrent]

There are some gg keychains wich make it worth

[lavish quiver]

Useless if you have bad keychains i guess

[zinc torrent]

Like the big relic ones or candy

[solid haven]

even candy ones (if you got it perfect) is only like what...+10%? That's barely 10% bonus if you already have high afk gains

[zinc torrent]

(That he sold the 25% relic chains in fomo shop is still fucked up btw)

[twilit goblet]

what does the relic chains do?

[zinc torrent]

DR

[twilit goblet]

damn

[zinc torrent]

Yea

[twilit goblet]

that's very big, 25% DR?

[solid haven]

so the chip is mostly used for premium chain?

[zinc torrent]

Sec not that im talking out my ass

[twilit goblet]

man i want more DR

[zinc torrent]

No it was 25% alright

[obsidian nacelle]

wasnt there a way to get x3 production on anvil or am i crazy?

[zinc torrent]

Click 3 times

[obsidian nacelle]

oh thanks, didnt try that one. Talking about the method of getting x3. theres on from regular, one from bubble and something else

[twilit goblet]

infinity hammer

gemshop item

[obsidian nacelle]

got it. it didnt update that the char was using the bubble for some reason but ty guys

[covert sphinx]

i got rid of the prayers is there anything else i can do to speed up their decay?

[twilit goblet]

i got rid of the prayer and it decayed in a couple of a second, youre good

[covert sphinx]

still feels alot slower than the firsts collo

[near mist]

Are the keychains currently in the shop worth it?

Like as endgame items

[rustic garnet]

yes, they are very strong

[opaque sun]

respawn keychain basically acting as the best effective fight afk gain

[steady token]

bis for superchow/gmush/ 1b dn

[zinc torrent]

How much%? (Are these permanently in shop?0

[gentle furnace]

20% mob respawn per keychain

most likely gone on next gemshop refresh like the dr keychains

[twilit goblet]

when does gemshop refresh?

[steady token]

I missed the dr keychains and I regret it everyday

[gentle furnace]

maybe when next update drops

[opaque sun]

possibily this weekend

[twilit goblet]

f the fomo is getting real

are the 5* cardifiers quite limited as well? was gonna wait till i get more c troll cards

[rustic garnet]

speculation here, but like the 4*, the 5* ones will be there for a long time/always

[steady token]

kill more chizoars

[twilit goblet]

i might just buy 1 and keep it

c troll would likely help my samples

[rustic garnet]

are chizoars good for gems?

[opaque sun]

chiz? Not so much

cchiz somehow has real low requirement, and n chiz is kind of optional for the generic skill preset

[gentle furnace]

yes, their keys drops in a bulk

[steady token]

for me, chizoar is the best gem source

[opaque sun]

Oh meaning farming chiz for gems? I thought meant as using cardifier on them

[sweet mirage]

What's the best source of vman damage? hp, ms, mana to base damage bubbles?

[opaque sun]

alchemy

[sweet mirage]

I know, but which bubbles? The one I mentioned, or others?

[crisp silo]

Alch is always the solution

[opaque sun]

there is no one source, but out if those 3 base damage, green base damage affects vman most if ignoring it uses a mob mat that cant be printed 1000m as easily as say purple bubble

[crisp silo]

Isnt there the dmg %per mainstat bubbles?

Like wis and str i think

[opaque sun]

The last bubble. Wis one says it affects mman, but is bugged not to

[crisp silo]

What its bugged

Bruh

[opaque sun]

So just the orange last bubble affects vman

[crisp silo]

Theres steak i guess

[steady token]

this is bugged for vman?

[crisp silo]

Man vman kinda shit dmg sources

[twilit goblet]

how much per day?

[opaque sun]

Lava coded orange and purple last bubbles to affect vman, but i guess used same stat designation so the game prioritized the orange one and doesnt stack with purple

[steady token]

I cant kill chizoar all day

[twilit goblet]

[steady token]

it's like 0.7 gem per kill on average iirc

[crisp silo]

How good your dr

[twilit goblet]

just 1028 kills for the key chain...

[crisp silo]

Could get lil bro to help you click restart every 15 secs if you wanna walk away for a bit

If you can 1 tap

Remember make sure its 14~15s for optimal speed due to autoloot and such

[gentle furnace]

i do 12 secs at most

[zinc torrent]

Buuuuuuulllshiiiiit. How many gems?

[crisp silo]

500 or more

I think

I did buy 1

[gentle furnace]

725 each

[twilit goblet]

fomo, im gonna get one also i think

[crisp silo]

20% respawn is unparralled

Plus you can double it

[twilit goblet]

yea i was thinking of the doubling, 40% respawn

damn

[vagrant mountain]

keychains are op

can confirm

[twilit goblet]

good on gmush or chow

[vagrant mountain]

increased my gmush by like 40%

[twilit goblet]

[vagrant mountain]

i dont even have doublers

[twilit goblet]

what kph did u guys wait for till you start doing superchow?

my BB now back in w4 with 180k kph chowing

[crisp silo]

Mil

[vagrant mountain]

superchow is 100m?

[opaque sun]

Around 5m/hr on gmush

[crisp silo]

Cause anylower is >100 hrs

[twilit goblet]

even at 1m it takes 100 hours

4 days

[vagrant mountain]

the real question is: how much candy do you have?

[twilit goblet]

not enough to schow every map kek

[crisp silo]

If you have sheepi you can print candy

[twilit goblet]

how does that work?

[opaque sun]

like you are not really supposed to super chow using irl time unless w5

[crisp silo]

Cause of lvl up gift

And the constellation

[vagrant mountain]

these things drop candy?

[twilit goblet]

oh just spam level every skill on every unit and get a lot of candies

[crisp silo]

Bubble

[twilit goblet]

level up gift bubble

[crisp silo]

Thats why i like sheepie

[vagrant mountain]

i feel like i dont get a lot of candies from it

[opaque sun]

the non birthday card drop

[crisp silo]

Cause its always on

I exist and it drops something

[vagrant mountain]

a lot of balloons, gems, and those stupid birthday cards

[crisp silo]

Constellation also helps

[opaque sun]

Also claiming on 8hr+, and bigger chunk of candies comes from giants

[twilit goblet]

the % chance to get candy over x hours?

[crisp silo]

Hehe having barely passable skill mastery is a blessing

[vagrant mountain]

hmm maybe i should use candy constellation

but i have so many i dont even use

[crisp silo]

Hehe infinite star signs

[opaque sun]

Id say 80% of candies are weekly giants using the bubble

[vagrant mountain]

im so dry on shiny pets

do i have to start from gmush or something

[crisp silo]

Theres also the chance to no increase giant spawn chance bubble

[crisp silo]

Start on any

[vagrant mountain]

i have 9% shiny chance and im like 40 eggs dry

[crisp silo]

9% is pretty bad

[vagrant mountain]

pretty pepega

[crisp silo]

Like most of mine are at 1 in 5

And i still get cucked

Gimme my god damn shiny moustache

W1 and w2 can get 1in 1 pretty easily

[twilit goblet]

I started on gmush, now on lvl 4 and it's taking 87 days to get to lvl 5 o.o

[zinc torrent]

This is not ok. But hey we have to be grateful since you can get them totally free (at the expense of spending hours killing bosses) so jeah totally free

The keychains. Man im slow

[zinc torrent]

Wats ya paint bucket level?

[runic sparrow]

i have all my characters in lab and connected to goat god for weeks now and my 2 elemental sorc got to lab level 75 first and i want to remove them from the lab and so something else but i still want divinity levels what is the strategy here? :/

[pulsar cliff]

Tranquility

[runic sparrow]

oh the style?

[pulsar cliff]

Yup!

[runic sparrow]

i forgot about that thx

[pulsar cliff]

It gives you div EXP even if you're not at an altar or in lab.

N oworries.

[zinc torrent]

Tranq got all my chars to div 80 at least so fsr

[pulsar cliff]

Oh yeah lol. I think someone just hit 100 on tranq.

[still apex]

Should I always be using golden hampters on all my characters all the time?

Assuming I have the slots

[pulsar cliff]

Yup

[worthy shoal]

They give coins and and so are really useful for yondergreen awful "coin on the ground" quest

[pulsar cliff]

All of my guys have them. Worth it.

[zinc torrent]

The keychains are ridiculous and im not happy that i had to spend almost all of my stored gems on them.
Just to put it into perspective: by best respawn chains gave me 10% COMBINED

[tame walrus]

I don't spend gems on keychains

[pulsar cliff]

They're worth it tho.

[tame walrus]

I just do the dungeon

[zinc torrent]

This is a difference with doubler from 6x2+4=16 to 20x2+20=60

[twilit goblet]

now imagine getting 2 of them... that's a lot of mob respawn

[zinc torrent]

You cant get chains like this from dungeon....

[keen berry]

Why i still can't find this adept recipe for my mman.....

[zinc torrent]

Use es active

[warm beacon]

How many royal urns do you have?

[keen berry]

Not sure, why?

[ebon thunder]

Does infinite star sign work for the ones you haven't unlock yet? Like it has the infinite symbol but I haven't unlock it yet, will it still display the effect or I have to unlock it?

[tough tusk]

you killed less then 100m it takes time use es if you didnt until now

[prisma drift]

Bro I got 1B kills

[warm beacon]

Cause it’s an easy milestone for how much you rlly did, need a thousand for the recipe on average

[warm beacon]

You don’t have to unlock them

[prisma drift]

I needed over 3k

[keen berry]

That's only kill showed on my mman, the other chars has killed many too.

[prisma drift]

Recipe drop hated me

[tough tusk]

yes but the skull is purple so its less then 100m

[zealous niche]

We can see by the purple skull that you’ve killed between 5M and 100M

[ebon thunder]

Ohh... Then that means I have just wasted the starsign unlock points

[keen berry]

Ugh so hard just for a recipe...

[prisma drift]

That’s also kills with multi

[zealous niche]

It would be red or black if you had over

[prisma drift]

Recipe isn’t affected by multi

That’s why people track the urns

[tough tusk]

tho i gained it with less then 100m kills so...

[zealous niche]

Just think, you’re also knocking out kills towards the 1B mark

[prisma drift]

Suggma was my first super chow

[zealous niche]

If you don’t have it by 1B, then be concerned since you’ll be killing just for recipe

[pulsar cliff]

It works - You just can't double them ith the lab chip if you don't have the unlocked.

[gentle furnace]

lol i finished super chowing the rest of w5 except suggma

[zinc torrent]

-7 chain is a tier 3 chain, and Max roll if you get respawn on both rolls is 12 per chain.

[prisma drift]

I just wanted recipe for my vman

[tame walrus]

hmm

[ebon thunder]

Ahh, thanks for the info, that makes me feel better that I didn't waste it

[prisma drift]

Got 1b kills and 600m suggma ashes

So I still need a good chunk to finish off vial

[zealous niche]

Forgot ashes were a vial

[prisma drift]

I’ll just vman the rest

[zealous niche]

I’ve blocked out that side considering I still can’t get threads :<

[prisma drift]

If you’re like me you’re 1/3 of the way there

[zealous niche]

Everybody has been making threads for weeks with dutiful collection of them and still no 1B vial

[zinc torrent]

Any anvill item is pretty much impossible to max vial

[prisma drift]

Really???

[zinc torrent]

*above thread

For normal people i suppose. You have them?

[prisma drift]

I assumed some end gamers had candied nails and thread to max

[prisma drift]

Just seeing how crazy far ahead some people are

I only have like 35m/1b thread

[zealous niche]

Getting there

[zinc shoal]

Are you upgrading anvil production bubble every hour?

[zealous niche]

Everybody is on thread and nails, some of the slower ones are double nails, rest are greenstacking the forge resources

[gentle furnace]

got eldr weatherbook and rock tdy🥳

[zealous niche]

Every hour?

[zinc shoal]

Yeah

The iron ore one

[zealous niche]

Atom refills are daily

[zinc shoal]

Green 3 i think

[zinc torrent]

Dream catcher left in the dust

[prisma drift]

But you get prints every hour

[zealous niche]

Ooh, no

[zinc shoal]

If you can print 1b iron ore per h you can click it every h

[zealous niche]

Not up to B prints

[gentle furnace]

nobody cares about bugged artifacts

[zealous niche]

Just updated my oaks and maxed 150M/hr

[zinc torrent]

Its a shame its broken

[gentle furnace]

i got it b4 the orb b4 the reset

[zinc torrent]

Was it always bugged?

[gentle furnace]

i think so

[zinc shoal]

Ah, are you clicking the hourly agi, str upgrades atleast?

Those and the wis (if you can afford it hourly) add up over time

[zinc torrent]

Wis and str are easy to have the hourly prints. Agi is harder or was it the other way?

[pulsar cliff]

Almosssssst.

[pulsar cliff]

Log samplesare easier than ore samples.

[zinc torrent]

Ah jeah bc if you aren't on doot your dk probably isn't on bunny+bear

[pulsar cliff]

Yeah I have to double print a 200m copper ore sample to do it.

[tame walrus]

I think it got this in the first night i unlocked world 5.( my bad thought recipes worked like any other it glows you got it)

Guess i need to unlock it again for mman he is level 149 now. so slow his damage is so bad.

The odds are what they say right on average so many million kills without multi kill right? i got all the recipes within a day of farming to unlock portal.

[tacit tulip]

If the recipe is visible like that on the card it means you don't have it yet

[tame walrus]

thougt so was to good to be true

[fallow pawn]

is there a list for all possible super chows/chows? i think ive missed one or two, im at 66 with rift mobs super chowed

[tacit tulip]

If it's black on the card it means you've never had any w5 recipe

And if it's not on the card at all, it means you've unlocked it

[opaque sun]

if you get an item, it lights up all other items using the same thumbnail image

[tame walrus]

Is there a image to explain this it confuses me.

[opaque sun]

probably missing dr def map brown poops and/or acorn td’s solo acorn

[fallow pawn]

oh they count extra? yeah im missing those but that means 68, but wasnt 69 possible?

[tacit tulip]

Doot map has one too

[opaque sun]

68 is like the practical cap unless you can bother to use couple of active days doing invisible gmush at doot

[runic sparrow]

is maxing civil war to 400 still good or should i leave it at 200 (elemental sorc)

[fallow pawn]

i could do that, im done with most stuff anyway, nothing elsewhere i could put that barb

[tacit tulip]

For boxes? You'll be maxing them all

[runic sparrow]

yeah i mean the order

[tacit tulip]

If you're not in the proper box farm yet there's no harm leaving it at 200

[opaque sun]

after some point you get lot of pens that order of maxing boxes doesnt matter

[tacit tulip]

There's diminishing returns after 200, so if you -need- other boxes do those first

[runic sparrow]

cool thx

[tacit tulip]

But yeah, one day you'll have 2k pens suddenly and boxes aren't a problem anymoren

I'm a big fan of mechanics you can 'finish' so boxes are great

[pulsar cliff]

Lmao that' sso true.

[tacit tulip]

One day I'll finish myriad

[fair coral]

But i'm not a fan of having to click 3 or 4 times to use one pen

[pulsar cliff]

One day

[tacit tulip]

Lava is funded by big carpal tunnel

[tame walrus]

I have 500 stamps so far when will i reach it?

[willow pelican]

Rift counts aswell, so yeah 69 is achievable

[bold quiver]

at least uget construction with dk speed overnight lol

[sand summit]

Wait there are "secret" enemies you can chow?

Those sneaky goofers

[bold quiver]

i know 3. Rift: Nutto where acorn assault td is . Poop together with dr defeacus

[gentle furnace]

and gmush in doot

[fallow pawn]

ive got rift already @willow pelican

[bold quiver]

boop too right?

[sand summit]

I never knew of the hidden gmush before

I uhh

I never saw him go figure

[fallow pawn]

but how long does boops take? and that would make it 70 total

[willow pelican]

A long time, currently not feasible

[bold quiver]

cant tell cuz its based onyour Multikill

[sand summit]

Pretty sure boops are affected by MK

So high end players can get it in a few weeks

[bold quiver]

lets go!

[fallow pawn]

well might as well do that too then, ive got full eclipse skulls so multikill is pretty big

[sand summit]

Def worth killing them often

Greenstack the bone meal and get enough cards for ruby

[opaque sun]

boops zow is easy, chow is doable, but super chow not practical

[sand summit]

But not impossible eh

I get it dw

[willow pelican]

Just takes a few years so go ahead

[fallow pawn]

on boops with unoptimized setup

[tacit tulip]

I think you can technically do the dungeon entrance maps too but noone in their right mind would

As you have no stats there

[bold quiver]

decent i'd say

[opaque sun]

i would wait until new world powercreeps where you can 1m kill them a day to super chow boops

[sand summit]

Btw does the poop boss just stop dropping the star talent books or why do I still have frothy at 86

Smh

[bold quiver]

i think someone tested and it didnt work. But considering it was only 1 person cant confirm

[sand summit]

Gonna have to do colos I guess

Also im in the wrong channel again

Uhh

Sailing fight

Right*

[opaque sun]

Code digger said that the solo mimic at butterfly didnt count

[sand summit]

Which artifact should I eldritch first

I have the artifact chance one already

[bold quiver]

My go around strat for sailing is: 1 boat on each important island and everything else on best artifact available

[sand summit]

I'm assuming a speed related one?

[opaque sun]

I have confirmed that the moles at kattle fight dont count for zow

[fallow pawn]

killing boops once gave me 20202 kills, i think super chow is out of the way

[sand summit]

I mean I still haven't gotten the last islands cuz of speed

[bold quiver]

so if im missingany good artifact i will have at least 1 boat there. 1 boat on last island and everything else focusing on whatever i can

[bold quiver]

i also never did travels over 2h, so i used that as standard to send extra boats to islands

[sand summit]

Yea that's the issue, half of my boats go above 2h on the later islands

So I was doing earlier islands with them

[bold quiver]

There isnt a best strategy for sailing. ive seen people with 20 boats on 1 islands for weeks and not getting the art (like me) and ive seen people with 1 boat on late island and getting art easily

[sand summit]

But even my fastest boat takes 4h for the second to last island

[bold quiver]

need to spread around correctly

Fast boats to fast islands, slow boats to their slow islands until u covered all.
Or u do mad strat of all boats 1 islands

[twilit goblet]

just rng I feel, whether it gives you that artifact ancient on 0.04% chance

[sand summit]

Starting to hate the rng of w5

I was okay with it for the most part

[twilit goblet]

sailing, gaming

[sand summit]

But nugget rng and later artifacts are grr

[bold quiver]

this is the real stupid rng

[sand summit]

Yes I hate it

I haven't gotten an upgrade in months

[bold quiver]

same

[sand summit]

And I keep upgrading the shovel

Like

At least the average should go up

[bold quiver]

upgrading shovel is apparently only for nugget size

[sand summit]

But I feel like it doesn't

[pulsar cliff]

Shovel just laughs at me everytime I click it.

[sand summit]

I also don't have Chem plant yet

[bold quiver]

oh yeah tahts bad lol

[sand summit]

Or snail cuz I need to get better modifiers

[twilit goblet]

when it hits it'll hit bigger

or so I tell myself

as I keep funneling bits into shovel

[bold quiver]

same

[sand summit]

At least divinity has been fine

I mean I am technically a privileged boi

But I still think my opinion is valid

[bold quiver]

i tell myself this wil get me a 3x bigger nugget

[sand summit]

I don't have t5 plants yet either

God I need it stop talking about my progress else I want to play the game

[pulsar cliff]

Last time I got an upgrade, my nugget went from 24,500 to 24,840. I was so mad.

[sand summit]

Every little bit counts tho

[twilit goblet]

lmao yea I'm just waiting for chem plant, tossing 0.5% into mutation

[sand summit]

One day

[twilit goblet]

t5 is strange I spent 2 days with ktsune with a full page trying to trigger it

[pulsar cliff]

For what it's worth, SPAM mutation.

If it's 0.1%, pop it.

[twilit goblet]

gave up then on the next day I get it randomly

[sand summit]

Maybe Ill do the div quest on all characters for some time skips

[twilit goblet]

yea I'm just spamming whenever j collect

[bold quiver]

u will get it soon

[twilit goblet]

all good buds just keep clicking

[floral jackal]

This was last time

[bold quiver]

When i got my chemical my strategy was waitil between 80-100 DNA, dont remember the odds there tho. But i didnt spam click

[pastel heath]

nice upgrade

[untold saffron]

Kitsune rock on or off for log games?

[plucky edge]

is this one additive or multiplicative?

[tacit tulip]

I've heard all the red bit unlocks are disappointing

So probably additive

[floral jackal]

[terse yoke]

does crit work on jobs?

[floral jackal]

No

[opaque sun]

Doesnt matter much, but log time on a kitsune off gives more value per free hours i suppose

The decision of turning kitsune on off is more based on other stuff than using log or not

[twilit goblet]

I log with it on while praying for t5

[worldly hollow]

Question about the Carbon atom. So one of my towers just hit lv51 but yet there is no bonus. Is there a threshold that you have to hit for a minimum level after 50?

[pulsar cliff]

No you should have 2% now. Relog?

[worldly hollow]

just reloaded via gem shop. lemme relog

[pulsar cliff]

No that should've done it. Hm.

What's it showing on the atom itself?

[worldly hollow]

so relogging worked now. thats weird that the gem shop didnt

interesting

[pulsar cliff]

Success!

[signal osprey]

Atom collider bonuses usually require a cloud save not just a map reload

[solemn spire]

what's the best way to increase my flaggy rate? I'm at 5.44k and it seems really low considering i have lv 90+ construction level

[worldly hollow]

just casually farming lucky lads while going for eclipse skulls w1 lol

[bold quiver]

truly a lucky lad

[signal osprey]

Best way is to just keep leveling more. Get as many of the directional cogs as you can with player exp % on them

[pulsar cliff]

First one down!!

[worldly hollow]

gg

[dreamy spruce]

Grats!

[worldly hollow]

ive got 2 completed myself, oak logs and copper ore lol

[bold quiver]

hugeeeeee

[pulsar cliff]

Ty ty ❤️

[pastel bramble]

100b dmg on my blooder berserker and still struggling to kill nightmare kattle, this final task is actually a challenge i like it 😄

[pulsar cliff]

Vman is basically BB hardmode.

[pastel bramble]

hes my 7th char, ill worry about him later 😂

atleast he has the aoe spell for killing the moles

[dreamy spruce]

bb also has aoe spell for that

[pastel bramble]

very long cd tho

[dreamy spruce]

ah yeah I dont know their cd differences

[pastel bramble]

ive had to work on maxing combat books and leveling alchemy a crap ton for warriors so far, they were so behind in alchemy

[bold quiver]

What is the best map to do CCD-crystalcountdown? citrines?

[signal osprey]

BB aoe spell is shorter cd than vman

[pastel bramble]

do it on wurms if u have access to wurms, just for the massive xp

[noble nymph]

tremor worms best for me

[signal osprey]

Just wurms for exp

[bold quiver]

so citrines for more crystals? dont rly care about th exp kkkk

[signal osprey]

I throw on full active exp set and use my ccd time as my vman leveling time as well

[bold quiver]

i tried wurms but the fact that u have all those floors makes it feel like i kill less crystals

[signal osprey]

Its not even really more crystals though

[bold quiver]

hmmm

[pastel bramble]

oranges are better overall yeah but wurms still better choice for xp/drops 😄

[signal osprey]

Theres a reason wurms CC is higher than citringe CC

Its because wurms is a more dense map

[bold quiver]

yeah but the layout could make me kill less crystals (since i have to walk to them) couldnt it?

[signal osprey]

If you have 150% move speed maybe

[bold quiver]

hmm im not 450 on vman yeet so i guess ill stick to wurms then

[pastel bramble]

easiest way to test it, do 20 craniums on each map and average ur gains, that way u know whats best for ur account and not others accounts 😄

[bold quiver]

no cranium hahah its maestro crystal countdown

[pastel bramble]

o

ignore all i said then 😄

anyone reached atom stage on this yet?

[bold quiver]

i will soon. already 12M

[pastel bramble]

how long u spent on citranges 😄

[noble nymph]

it's nblb

[bold quiver]

0, thats all nblb haha

only a madman would try to farm citrines to upgrade that

[pastel bramble]

yeah.. a madman.. 👀

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkk u need over 20M of an item to reach atom range (wth 90% discunt

[opaque sun]

for crystal countdown, vman isnt really going to clear the entire map reliably so anywhere is fine.

[bold quiver]

im getting close to going back to mouse traps for vial, so i wanna push vman epoch talent first

also got this to atom range today ya . All yellow bubbles on ato check! (but first one lol

[dreamy spruce]

damn nice

[bold quiver]

o/ yeah thats a big one

[dreamy spruce]

how does nblb boost so many bubbles?

[bold quiver]

how? what do u mean

[noble nymph]

there's loads of things that increase the amount of nblb

[dreamy spruce]

Ah, I see. How many upgrades you getting every day?

[bold quiver]

10 bubbles iirc +3 levels on each (chance to +4

[dreamy spruce]

oh wow

[bold quiver]

and for some reason it procs on all 4 cauldrons all the time so

or it just evens out that it happens

Tats why i usualy say that nblb is very bad once u get it at W4 but later is SSS tier

[dreamy spruce]

I assume nblb doesnt stack with larry tho right?

[bold quiver]

cuz getting +1 upgrade on random bubbles doesnt make any dif to your progression. But later u are getting upgrades on all bubbles and +3. So its very important to push hard material bubbles

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah seems impossible to lvl some of the bubbles otherwise, thanks

[bold quiver]

then once u are strong enough u do some bubble leveling strategy

For example, u push all bubbles above 15 that u can with materials and let NBLB hit only diamond chef or multikill, stuff like that

only a few bubbles require that, everything else is pretty normal to level

[dreamy spruce]

Yeah, gonna worry about that later for now. would rather just spend my water on useful bubbles for now

[bold quiver]

yeah thats some stuff for later haha

[trail fable]

So does having a big bubble equiped while you have sheepie double the bubble's effect or what?

[bold quiver]

no

[trail fable]

Figured that would be the case.

[bold quiver]

but i keep them equipped cuz it looks nice. Im used to seeing this setup since i could do it lol

[trail fable]

Nice

It is very asthetically pleasing to see that

[gentle furnace]

id say this is decent

but no cape

[bold quiver]

holy shit. Gimme the necklaces man

im still missing 1 and cant drop it D:

5k keys down the drain 0 necklace

[gentle furnace]

i have 8 in total

[bold quiver]

only 2 more to finish 1 for each

[gentle furnace]

ill do 20 more runs and see if i get lucky

[bold quiver]

im feelingu wil get cape today

[dreamy spruce]

poor guy losing all his teeth

[gentle furnace]

i already got 1 but i dont mind if i get more

[bold quiver]

2nd cape!

i'd say 2 cape is worth. cuz 1 for DK 1 for bubo

[gentle furnace]

i gave my first to sb for the afk gain

[bold quiver]

lol same

[gentle furnace]

got 1 necklace in 6 runs

[dreamy spruce]

nice

[warm kayak]

How do I choose the second god for my ES?

[gentle furnace]

3rd row first talent

[warm kayak]

Yeah but How do I choose which

[bold quiver]

just level the skill and read

[noble nymph]

whoa, reading is difficult

[bold quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/studying-school-reading-kid-child-gif-19991265

[noble nymph]

idleon is one of those games where no matter how much i progress, i feel miles behind

[gentle furnace]

sad, last necklace didnt drop

but i got the card to gold

[bold quiver]

cant imagine how many bosses did u do to get that card to gold lol

[gentle furnace]

about 200 maybe

[bold quiver]

god save your soul

[dreamy spruce]

you did normal? or nightmare?

[dreamy spruce]

oh right cape only drops on nightmare..

[bright current]

tf my game doin

in the fuckin twilight zone

[tacit tulip]

Means your GPU had a seizure normally

[bright current]

i DID just boot 2 games at once on top of idleon by accident a bit ago

that explains it

[tacit tulip]

Like I can force that to happen by updating my driver's haha

[signal osprey]

I got NM kruk to 4* before I dropped my first cape

I had none from card packs either

[bold quiver]

toaster pc!

[bright current]

nooo! it can run awesome games like doom!

and duke nukem

[crisp silo]

potato

[bold quiver]

duke nukem OP

[dreamy spruce]

But can it run crysis?

[bright current]

i once made it to round 30 on pet aremna battles before crashing

[bold quiver]

is IE the only place to check ccd progress? its so low to update

[signal osprey]

IT has it too but it wont be faster

[twin token]

How do I know what items are best to print for where I'm at? Rn on the prints I redid I did birch and oak logs for the level 1 alch bubbles but I dunno abt any of the other ones

[signal osprey]

They both update on cloudsaves

[bold quiver]

Cant know. U have to check what u have, what u want to focus, how much u produce and decide

[dreamy spruce]

Look at bubbles you want to upgrade and print their mats I'd say

[bold quiver]

w5 is free mans land

[dreamy spruce]

but jungle logs are pretty decent as well (for the mining eff)

[twin token]

Hm ok then

[signal osprey]

Its hard to say whats best really. I just guess most of the time

[twin token]

Ye i wanted to do that for the liquid rate

[signal osprey]

In general as long as you're upgrading bubbles you're probably doing okay

[tall dirge]

a max stat platinum obol (drop chance) is 11% ?

[bold quiver]

If u want to progress to clear all content as fast as possible u should upgrade some things in a specific way and neglect other, and so on

if u want to chill and ave a more balanced stuff, u do other kind of leveling

[signal osprey]

And when in doubt just ask yourself if the thing you're doing will increase your samples

[twin token]

I think wispy lumber would be good too for the library boost

[signal osprey]

That question hasnt let me down yet

[twin token]

Hm ok then

[bold quiver]

and also remember that, its not because its saying something and it seems good that its actualy good

[tall dirge]

a max stat platinum obol (drop chance) is 11% ?

ok ty

was woundering do i need to roll the goldy again or have two %8s to make the best plat , what about with the purple shaped dice obol ?

[twin token]

Ok I'll think harder abt what bonuses they provide and how much I want them

[signal osprey]

You only need one upgraded obol to make an obol of the next tier. So roll one gold dice to 8% and the other can be 7% and it will still make an 11% platinum

[narrow torrent]

It uses the left one as a base

[signal osprey]

Just make sure the 8% is in the left slot. The new obol uses the stats of the one in the left slot

[twin token]

It'll also always delete the right one if it fails

[tall dirge]

yeah how many of this f dice obols do i really need?

i got like 22k speed statues so far

[lost depot]

this upgrade is poggers

my bits are now really big

[lament jasper]

I'm stuck on gaming smh

[stuck pasture]

So much chemicals it’s a breaking bad episode… hurry up level 6…

[lost depot]

97.8k nugget holy

[signal osprey]

You need at least 1 full page of drop rate obols for your family and personal setups

[lament jasper]

fr i need a gaming guide tf is this

[tacit tulip]

Until you get cheems all you really need to know about gaming is harvest all

The rest comes intuitively as you progress

Chem cycling requires a little thought 😄

[lost depot]

I wish harvest all ignored chems

[signal osprey]

End game is harvesting all on a full chem board just to get the biggest nugget circle you can 🗿

[lost depot]

Lategame harvesting even just once per day can take an hour

[tacit tulip]

And that's I'd you're lucky

If the gods are against you it can go on indefinitely

[lost depot]

Yea

Both gaming and sailing are severly lacking automation

[crisp silo]

new automation arm buff?

[tacit tulip]

Probably a pet lol

[lost depot]

Yes more companions with essential QOL buffs please

I beg you

[bold quiver]

DK construction speed on active character please

[sick sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

lava right now

[tacit tulip]

Would be nice to get a chart that orders your auto harvest (cactus first, fly trap last) and let's you disable harvesting of certain types

If we wanted big boy gains, an auto trimmer for certain plant types

[signal osprey]

You already get DK speed on your active character if you play DK

Which you should be

🤷‍♂️

[solemn spire]

1mil wormhole kills soon, then bubo active to max alchemy cauldrons

[bold quiver]

i dont wanna overwork my construction guy

[rustic garnet]

I can still buy this? But I have all ancients

[signal osprey]

You cant buy it

[noble nymph]

if you click, it does nothing

[lost depot]

Probably a scam

[noble nymph]

lol

[rustic garnet]

cheers

[noble nymph]

one day you'll be able to buy eldrich artifacts

[tacit tulip]

God I wish, been after this last gaming artifact for about 6 weeks now

[crisp silo]

auto trimmer you say, blud is onto smth

[bold quiver]

rookie times

[rustic garnet]

serious? I'd prefer the QOL buffs available to all

[lost depot]

Deadly serious :Kappa:

[tacit tulip]

Sarcasm is hard to read on the internet

[crisp silo]

nah gotta get 1 companion with all the QOL behind it

new doot

i say, slush\

[bold quiver]

i also want more companions with QOL

[noble nymph]

hmm, will probably be a new doot with +100 alternative particle upgrades

[crisp silo]

1 singular pet with 5 QOL features behind it

[rustic garnet]

No reason to put QOL behind a companion, put it as part of islands

[noble nymph]

lmao

[copper pebble]

@torn nimbus

[crisp silo]

how will lava make money otherwise

[bold quiver]

its like life. U can either get something good for free if u are lucky, or u can buy something good with money. All praise capitalism

[bold quiver]

yeah im all for giving money to good game developers

[lost depot]

Imagine if you were playing Path of Exile or Diablo 4 and you had to gamble real $$$ to get more stash tabs

With a very high chance of getting absolutely nothing

[tacit tulip]

Instead there's just no stash tabs

[rustic garnet]

There's a bit of a difference between giving money to support devs and straight up gambling addiction

[lost depot]

That's what companions are

[crisp silo]

isnt diablo hella p2w?

[bold quiver]

like gambling for the cosmetics that make your game look cool!

[crisp silo]

or was that the mobile one

[dreamy spruce]

only diablo immortla

[lost depot]

You're thinking of Diablo Immortal

[crisp silo]

ah

[bold quiver]

immortal was insane KKKKKKKKKK

[tacit tulip]

Mobile yes, recent release (4) no

[rustic garnet]

Diablo Immortal, a game not made directly by blizzard, but by a gacha company in China, is P2W

[crisp silo]

of course the chinese made it

[tacit tulip]

Most people think of 4 as it only came out last month

[crisp silo]

im so proud of us

[bold quiver]

some guy whaled so hard on immortal that be broke the game and didnt have anyone to do some achievments with him (cuz of power matchmaking. Blizzard fixed it eventualy

[crisp silo]

lmao

[rustic garnet]

Blizz let the whale match make and crush others

[crisp silo]

truly a chinese power system moment

[rustic garnet]

It wasn't even a proper whale, but a streamer whow as just putting stream money into it

Funny, the communist based country is doing the weird capitalism stuff

[crisp silo]

nah china aint too communist

[lost depot]

China not communist

but lets not get into this topic

[bold quiver]

china aint communist lol (not being sarcastic

[crisp silo]

ok now then, of to a different topic

what yall think the islands do?

[bold quiver]

Presets for obols

[lost depot]

QoL updates hopefully lol

[bold quiver]

im guessing some random buffs that are 90% filler and 10% good to boost efficiency, power etc

[noble nymph]

will there ever be a w5 collo?

[tacit tulip]

Hard fish >:[

[crisp silo]

man can lava just allow us to swap the whole obol set from 1 guy to another

[bold quiver]

i dont think so. D: No miniboss in W5 which i sad actualy

[crisp silo]

not pluck 1 by 1

[bold quiver]

exactly. He is saving that juiced QOL for later!

[crisp silo]

i lost 1 whole pop obol somehow in transit

[tacit tulip]

If it requires afk to produce the resource to unlock islands bear god is about to get a workout

[rustic garnet]

Lava's next OBOL change will be to allow you to have every obol equipped to every char

honestly, it sounds broken, but it's not at all

[bold quiver]

wow i want apet like that

[rustic garnet]

it's just QoL

I don't want a pet like that

[bold quiver]

no more swapping obols thanks jesus

[rustic garnet]

I want the game to offer it via normal mechanics

[crisp silo]

we do

[rustic garnet]

not more gacha QoL crap

[crisp silo]

but we gotta cope with pain

[tacit tulip]

I'd be fine with that as a mechanic unlocked through actual new stuff

[bold quiver]

gotta pay for good stuff

[crisp silo]

new god bonus time?????????

[tacit tulip]

And would immediately start farming new dice obols haha

[crisp silo]

will kattle and badge do things????????????

[rustic garnet]

no, you shouldn't have to pay $500 for the 'QoL stuff'

[bold quiver]

yeah thats why it would be an intermediate buff

not doot level. Save next 500$ for something OP

[crisp silo]

bruh

new slug

[bold quiver]

[crisp silo]

i cant wait for a new slug tier

[rustic garnet]

Or just stop with the gacha stuff and go back to the good part of the game

[bold quiver]

same!

[bold quiver]

game is the same, dont cry

[crisp silo]

we cope with pain

[rustic garnet]

yeah, you are just a troll Brave, confirmed

[bold quiver]

companion is only extra stuff. if u dont have a single pet nothing changes

idk why people keep thinking companions is locking anyone out of any content lol

[rustic garnet]

Except literally the QoL

such an L take

[lost depot]

lol literally nobody is saying compaions are "locking anyone out of content"

[bold quiver]

people had already maxed 1B deathnote before companions, maxed rift, maaxed alchemy" in terms" more than 2B prints

[crisp silo]

[bold quiver]

just tae companions as extra stuff. If u get u get if u cant get dont cry because some people can

🫡

[crisp silo]

honestly

[rustic garnet]

lick dem boots

[crisp silo]

it should not have been monetised

i would like gacha non monetised

just to have some pain

with extra pain

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkk would be funny

[crisp silo]

gambling but not rly

[bold quiver]

If u think about it. Nugget + Sailing is already "gacha"

[rustic garnet]

not in the slighest

[crisp silo]

exactly

i need the pain

more pain

[lost depot]

cap?

[bold quiver]

some people get stuck on a single relic for 2 months

[rustic garnet]

that's just a random roll

[leaden shuttle]

Yeah but I dont have to pay 3 dollR per chest

[bold quiver]

2 freaking months to get 1 insanely strong relic

[rustic garnet]

Gacha sailing would be paying $3 per chest you open

[bold quiver]

if that aint gacha lol

[lost depot]

Do you think that any and all random% in a game = gacha?

[bold quiver]

Gacha is not linked to money, wtf. Its a system

[crisp silo]

what is the definition of gacha

[rustic garnet]

Dr, he clearly does

[lost depot]

aite time to google the definition of gacha

[crisp silo]

what truly makes a mechanic gacha

[tacit tulip]

$500 in green gems and you too can have a 1mil nugget

Why you guys mad? It's just qol

[bold quiver]

u roll for something, u can get it or not. Thats gacha

[crisp silo]

what is life

[bold quiver]

i'd take it!

[rustic garnet]

Gacha is the vending machine where you put money in to get a chance at something

[crisp silo]

hmmmmmm but can gacha be free

so many qns

[sick sentinel]

only the true community understands 😔

[rustic garnet]

No, it can't

[crisp silo]

so little time

[short egret]

why does no one talk in idleon

[little pagoda]

wtf it's really +38% nothing?

[lost depot]

from wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gacha_game

[tacit tulip]

Gacha comes from the term gachapon, which are those little machines you put money in to get random items

[rustic garnet]

we fall for trolls, that's all