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[stiff prairie]

This is also on a map that i can't 1shot posion yet

[bold quiver]

last time i checked my cc cycle was 15 minutes (whole cd duration + recharge)

[rustic garnet]

and do NOT put on a ranged weapon

you want to 'walk' further to spread the aura

[stiff prairie]

When my cooldown on the current CC is gone, i'm going to jellyfish and CC farm there.

[sharp vine]

You don't want poison anyway you want aura if you're far into W5

[graceful bramble]

why?

[graceful bramble]

ah, makes sense

[bold quiver]

cant u farm citrines with aura?

[stiff prairie]

For sure, but i want to try posion in W4 first.

[rustic garnet]

Now you MUST one shot with your fart cloud

[sharp vine]

Your aura won't fire off unless you're in melee range

[rustic garnet]

OR you are wasting your time

[bold quiver]

thats kinda weird but i respect u

citrines is aura map, not poison

[stiff prairie]

Your aura fires off while closer to monsters.
And monsters tend to spawn close to other monsters on most maps

[rustic garnet]

every map is aura map after a while

you don't want the poinson toss

[stiff prairie]

Just the posion maker.

[bold quiver]

only flat maps are aura

[sharp vine]

Cloud isn't poison though, right?

[rustic garnet]

you can do aura on wurms

[bold quiver]

cuz its flat

[rustic garnet]

cloud uses poison

[little pagoda]

Should I go do a dungeon run with maestro and archer for +20 easy slab? Seems like that is a thing

[rustic garnet]

wurms isn't flat, it has 2 levels

[bold quiver]

3 but wurms is hybrid , so u need both

[rustic garnet]

100%

[dreamy spruce]

not an expert but shouldnt fart be last?

[bold quiver]

without poison u are losing cc on wurms

[rustic garnet]

cloud uses poison stats, so you want it leveled

[sharp vine]

Right but that's different than saying wanting poison to one shot

[rustic garnet]

yes, you want the far cloud to one shot

fart cloud

[bold quiver]

@stiff prairie mind if i ask u, why are u doing cc at w4 if u can use aura and kill citrines at w5?

[stiff prairie]

You only level checmical warfare to make sure the farts kill

[rustic garnet]

yes

you don't need it on the bar, but you need it trained

[stiff prairie]

i just want to check the CC difference. i'm getting CC fast enough that i can do this without losing much effeciency

[rustic garnet]

you're gonna see very similar numbers

[bold quiver]

hmm i see. I remember my cc beinh 75k at floms at 130k at citrines

[stiff prairie]

I also don't know if farts can 1 shot jellies.

it should. but you know

[rustic garnet]

you can easily check :p

[bold quiver]

the main diff is being able to one shot crystal mobs, thats very important

[stiff prairie]

indeed. (and apparently, it shouldn't)

[rustic garnet]

one shotting cyrstal mobs helps, yes

[stiff prairie]

100m min damage, farts deal 8% of that, jellies have 15m

[rustic garnet]

you can get farts way way higher

[stiff prairie]

guess i'm testing in cans

[sharp vine]

Honestly even if you can't 100% efficiently do CC at wurms you're probably still better off activing there just for the levels so you can get closer to making it the most efficient

[stiff prairie]

Oh wait. i have nearly 100% crit. i can do jellies

[bold quiver]

he has 2 attacks. 1 poison area 2nd his own

[stiff prairie]

I mean't the fart itself, not the spreader

[rustic garnet]

your fart should do way more though

[stiff prairie]

The joys of using nicknames. everybody gets confused

[bold quiver]

[stiff prairie]

~8% for chemical

[rustic garnet]

Fix it!

[stiff prairie]

Indeed.

Dw, plague only has 1 point in it.

[bold quiver]

jnice

[stiff prairie]

1 point, for a 93% chance to hit extra, handy on crystals who i happen to punch. That's it. Currently focusing on the lab talent for extra damage in general, then i'll focus on chemical

Then back to spirit

[bold quiver]

poor dmg mult, u dont have to rly worry abouthtat talent

only a few lvls is enough

[rustic garnet]

sure spending 1 point is fine all the time

[stiff prairie]

Plus, i should put 1 point in green/purple tubes. since my bubo is forced to be linked to bear right now

[bold quiver]

as long as your poison is one shoting floms/soda cans u are fine

w5 is aura map either way so poison dmg is irrelevant (until u get to wurms)

[stiff prairie]

If it crits, it will 1 shot floms. crit rate is currently 90%.

[rustic garnet]

line width should not be an issue

[stiff prairie]

Oh yeah it isn't.

[rustic garnet]

112k sec of prog

on wurms

seems ok

[dreamy spruce]

nice

[bold quiver]

thats weird its lower than citrines

[rustic garnet]

It's only because my CC is low

pushing that to 269 should over double that

[signal lava]

citrines is crazy compact though. or should wurms be higher?

[rustic garnet]

worms are more dense

[bold quiver]

if your poison is strong enough wurms is higher

and u can kill crystals, somethingnlike that

have no idea how a weak person at wurms compare vs as one shoting crystals at citrines

[rustic garnet]

yeah it could get closer

certainly I don't poinson one shot crystals on wurms

but I do 1 shot aura

[bold quiver]

Cuz u want to be playing bubo with maxed jawbreaker prayer

[rapid talon]

where can you get it

[bold quiver]

thats the optimal way

[rustic garnet]

Yes, you do want jaw and midas if possible

which I do

just can't 1 shot with them on

[graceful bramble]

What's DK used for? Bubo is for CC, ES for mats

[rustic garnet]

it's fine, great exp/coins this way

[bold quiver]

midas is not that worth if ucant reach breakpoint

[rustic garnet]

DK is for Rares

[bold quiver]

make sure too check that

[rustic garnet]

Midas doesn't change the break points for me

[graceful bramble]

And the archer elite?

[signal osprey]

Midas is very worth it

[rustic garnet]

I don't 2 shot with either

[bold quiver]

ie > players > vman > skills > scroll down

[rustic garnet]

elite archer -- no where

[signal osprey]

You still want the drops

Especially now with keys dropping

[rustic garnet]

I agree, drops are good

[bold quiver]

meh neglegible

[dreamy spruce]

gmush / furnace

[bold quiver]

i'd reather one shot everything than run midas

[rustic garnet]

neglible? nah I want my 1000 keys per day 😄

[rapid talon]

never noticed that, tyvm

[bold quiver]

same found that out today

[rustic garnet]

120% less DR is a tier below, not sure exactly how many LESS keys it is

[sly plank]

hmm my pet arena runs always freeze around 130-140 even with high performance on, any advice?

[bold quiver]

i hardly played bubo in my acc progression so i cant rly say also, i envy u bubo players

[rustic garnet]

dooes yoru poison one shot everything?

oh right you run ES

[bold quiver]

probably does

if it doesnt maybe 2shot

[dreamy spruce]

Go to empty server and empty fenceyard

[bold quiver]

yeah, to me its a mistakee to main bubo

[rustic garnet]

Who's maining anything?

Bubo is there to pump liquid

[bold quiver]

so i just hop on it 2 time per day at most or if i need water

[green eagle]

it's a mistake to "main" anything in this game

[rustic garnet]

this

I swap to whatever is needed

[bold quiver]

i disagree, u should MAIN es aftre w4 if u want to progress fast

u main ES and decidate 90%-95% of your playtime to him, and swap to DK/bubo ocasionaly

[barren otter]

i main bm

[signal osprey]

DK and bubo are the end game of idleon

[rustic garnet]

I don't see how ES is the only person to play for progression

DK and Bubo all the way

you want the drops from them

[bold quiver]

yeah. ES is dead once u reach that part

[rustic garnet]

ES gives you the poor drops you don't need after a short period

[thin kernel]

do we have a "best keyfarm" class? as i need a shit tons of them :/

[lavish quiver]

DK

[tacit tulip]

for w5? DK on wurms

[thin kernel]

thx 🙂

[bold quiver]

cuz he is broken

But its just for fast progression.

[rustic garnet]

I don't know what you think fast progression means anymore

[bold quiver]

Wanna speedrun the game? main ES after w4

[stiff prairie]

Hmm. it's actually a bit better at floms.

[rustic garnet]

you keep saying stuff like speed run, but speed run what

[bold quiver]

reaching enough dmg to clear all available content

[rustic garnet]

ok, so getting to the last map?

[bold quiver]

getting enough dmg to clear RIFT 46 as fast as possible

[stiff prairie]

But i'd rather progress in W5 and level up that have 4-5 extra hours of liquids

[bold quiver]

ofcnot lol

[rustic garnet]

rift 46 requires alchemy which requires things like liquid

[bold quiver]

and now getting enough dmg to clear KATTLE on all charcaters nightmare to unlock last scarf

[rustic garnet]

I don't see how pushing ES helps your other chars?

DK gives you huge statue push

[bold quiver]

cuz he is broken

[rustic garnet]

feels like you are missing other broken classes

[bold quiver]

tell that to my zoomies progression speed

[tacit tulip]

tbh for the most part only really sailing matters for endgame damage. Without steak and the bubble that scales from wis yoiu aint hitting rift 46 damage

[bold quiver]

maining only ES

[rustic garnet]

you say 'zoomies progression speed' yet I don't know your actual progress other than 'It's huge'

[bold quiver]

finished all content months ago! clearable content*

so at the time was rift 46

[rustic garnet]

tons of people did that, and they don't 'main' ES, that's all

[sharp vine]

In like 3 days I levelled up my grind time bubble from around the 250/300 area to like 1400 which is a huge gain in exp for faster progress

[bold quiver]

yep but not as fast as this guy here!

[rustic garnet]

I doubt that very much

[bold quiver]

ES is king for speed progression on a fresh acc

[bold quiver]

thats huge

[rustic garnet]

That's very normal for Bubo

I got 2k levels on my GT just by letting my bubo rock

[subtle elk]

ES just gets you the drops you need early in addition to dealing high enough damage to clear most rifts with relative ease. You can get that damage and drop rate from other sources, but ES is easiest to do that on.

Bubo will always be better later due to alchemy progress

[rustic garnet]

I think ES is nice to press to 10 million resources for green stack

[subtle elk]

It is very nice for that too

[rustic garnet]

and then you let bubo/ DK come in and compliment

[tacit tulip]

It's not terrible for gettiing bubbles to 100m either through bargain tag

tho for vials it's easier to just vman

[rustic garnet]

yep

[bold quiver]

u play like 90% ES 5% dk and 5% bubo, then after u reach a certain point its 95% DK 5% bubo 1 % ES(hampter machine) poor guy

[dreamy spruce]

101% play time gaming

[sharp vine]

Also, all the alch levels good for skill mastery, getting niche obols, and bubo is still king of money farm isn't he?

[bold quiver]

yeah king for money

[subtle elk]

I've been like 90% bubo for a while since I'm not starving for keys

[rustic garnet]

I suspect you maybe are missing on the overnight AFK train a bit here

maybe because you can't leave it on when you sleep, you aren't getting the huge gains others see from DK/Bubo

[bold quiver]

havent ever played overnight unfortunaetly

only 1-2 days top

[rustic garnet]

yep, and that's why your advice is sorta missing a big caveat

you can't leave ES overnight on most mabs

maps

he'll fill up/explode

[lavish quiver]

Filter

[rustic garnet]

sure, filter the drops you want

that's the problem

[bold quiver]

why so? thats how so many people bug the game and get extra afk time (apperntly is not bannable, figures

[rustic garnet]

filtering the main drop is counter to the goal

[stiff prairie]

Yeah, grinding, grindtime is my next target
A 20H CC would fetch me about 6-7 levels in grind time.
and considering the Cool down is effectively half an hour now. That's 12-14/hour

[dreamy spruce]

overnight ES print free hours

[lavish quiver]

Unless your after rares

[rustic garnet]

extra afk time?

[rapid talon]

which class is the best to beat rift 32?

[bold quiver]

its ES ultimate form

[rustic garnet]

it's not extra time, you desync the game and lose hours

there is a small boost to sailing

[stiff prairie]

Probably make a 8 hour afk (from sleeping) worth more like 10h
something like that

[bold quiver]

dont wanna go above 4h to maximize sailing gains lol

[rustic garnet]

sure, but you can also stop relying on 2 hour sail times

[tacit tulip]

you don't actually gain time. 8 hours afk, 2 of it is lag. You pick up 6 hours on your character, then cloud save to get the other 2

[rustic garnet]

I prefer to focus on 4 hour sailing

4 hour sailing, or 6 hour sailing

[tacit tulip]

playing ES during the day creates the same lag as playing at night, just playing ES at all generates lag

[rustic garnet]

Exactly, well, at night if you overfill it creates even more, but regardless, yes

[dreamy spruce]

during night makes more for me since screen fills up with loot

[tacit tulip]

I generally only do it for hampters or when I have big bags

[rustic garnet]

Exciting times 😄

[bold quiver]

not for me fortunately. I never got any significant desync playing ES

[tacit tulip]

so not usually a problem 😄

[rustic garnet]

umm, you sure?

[stiff prairie]

You're crazy.

[bold quiver]

yep 100%

[rustic garnet]

Are you cloude saving at the end of your play time?

[bold quiver]

i get a big desync by doing boss runs

[tacit tulip]

[bold quiver]

wtf dude kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[stiff prairie]

I forgot i still needed the 25th bubble. do u htink i'll get it?

[rustic garnet]

Brave, I don't know if you know what the desync actually does here, but if you log off at the end and don't cloud save....

[bold quiver]

my game doesnt freeze while portal is open

[bold quiver]

neither drop frames

[lavish quiver]

what the heck that does not happen to me

[dreamy spruce]

pc diff

[tacit tulip]

mid range AMD cpu, the game runs better on my intel machine

...which is a laptop

[bold quiver]

sometimes its not pc components dif, its how its build or config

[lavish quiver]

Unless i am doing another application at the same time i dont get desync either

[barren otter]

p2w diff

[rustic garnet]

Are you actualy checking when you're done playing by going to cloud save though?

[stiff prairie]

Finally finished with colelcting all the bubles.
Now it's time to level all the bubble cost reduction stuff in cauldrons :/

[bold quiver]

yeah. I get desync if i start playing some heavy games with ES running together, otherwise it doesnt happen

[tacit tulip]

my laptop DOES have a 13700 in it which is a little overkill, so that does explain the difference lol

[bold quiver]

and its not even a big desync, only small

i get huge desync doing boss runs e_e

[lavish quiver]

Yes, when i play other games and go to cloudsave i see the desync but if i dont play or do other stuff i get no desync

[rustic garnet]

and your ES is fairly high level/on maps with 200+ portals?

[lavish quiver]

max portals and everything

[bold quiver]

your pc is just bad

config dif

[rustic garnet]

no, it's not 🙂

[bold quiver]

so its config dif

[rustic garnet]

what do you mean by config diff?

[bold quiver]

not knowing how to setup windows/your stuff properly

[tacit tulip]

yeah I've pretty consistently seem it run better on intel machines so that seems to be the main factor unfortunately

[bold quiver]

so its not optimized

[rustic garnet]

Right, again, no, it's not 'poorly setup'

you are making some wild assertions here

[tacit tulip]

Honestly it's best to just ignore brave whenever he speaks, I'm still not convinced he's not just three trolls in a trenchcoat

[rustic garnet]

probably true

I'll believe his config is good if he recognizes this app 😉

[bold quiver]

yeaaah u definetly dont understand what optimization means

hhha

[sly plank]

thanks! unfortunately wasn’t enough, I guess I’ll just have to have overpowered pets so that it doesn’t take as long and hopefully finish before I freeze lol

[little pagoda]

At what point shoudl I change my BB from lab xp buff to line buff?

[rustic garnet]

ok brave, you've proven my point quite well, that you don't know what you're talking about

[dreamy spruce]

always gonna take long from what I've heard

[dreamy spruce]

when you have lvl 75 on everyoen maybe

[sly plank]

damn, not sure what to do then

[tacit tulip]

yeah even an optimal arena run can take 1-2 hours

[little pagoda]

That's going to take a while

[bold quiver]

never technicaly. u wont use linebuff

[rustic garnet]

You should always use lab xp buff

line buff is pointless very soon

[little pagoda]

Well feels bad

[little harbor]

Im pretty new to w5. Is this worth it? Never seen rare chest in double digits. But the cloud rate is useless with it.

[bold quiver]

after lvl 40 on players u can already do 6 man lab, so whatever extra exp u are getting its only for "whale/late gamers" chip gambling

[tacit tulip]

The other buffs you get to line width (primarly from cooking) will make the line buff obsolete

[little pagoda]

Should I be working on getting everyone's lab effiency to at least x2 though? The xp is starting to take multiple hours to level them up

[rustic garnet]

Can you see that line that sorta goes from lef tto right through the alch pot?

[little pagoda]

yeah lol

[bold quiver]

sure why not

[bold quiver]

its decent

[little pagoda]

Lab rings for everyone? What else? corn?

[rustic garnet]

what you should be working on is this

[bold quiver]

yeah it helps a little

[rustic garnet]

pump your best lab rat

and he'll just level everyone else for you

[little pagoda]

When I go and level up my bubo a bit I will be able to invest more in this as well as his efficiency so it should help

Right now I don't have enough points for everything

[rustic garnet]

yeah that's fair

points are at a premium fo ra while

At some point lab just does it's own thing

[little pagoda]

I was kinda waiting for higher max book level to start working on bubo but maybe I will do it sooner for the lab

[rustic garnet]

bubo is very strong

I'd rotate between bubo, dk, and es

[merry breach]

reached w5 now, should i leave everyone on div for a while? :v

[rustic garnet]

if you have a cookie at least

[stiff prairie]

Man, 3mil in copper bars. 300 in dreadlo.
No wonder people complain about trying to lvl the dreadlo bar vial

[rustic garnet]

My view is follow the guide in this channel

[little pagoda]

I only have ES right now but I will build my DK later today when I'm less lazy. Not sure how I'm gonna go about it yet

[bold quiver]

meh dont worry about lab, its a waste

[little pagoda]

Kinda hoping for more accoutn wide buffs so I don't have to make too much gear for them to level up in w5

[bold quiver]

just level that once u get goat + dishes with whatever u have

[rustic garnet]

lab is not a waste --

[bold quiver]

u wont be able to do 6 man lab setup if u dont have 2 jewels either way

[rustic garnet]

you need 6 people in lab activiating all the lines you need

[bold quiver]

u get goat, pump everyone to lvl 40-50 to and thats it, forget leveling that exists for a while

[little pagoda]

Well I'm trying to get the current jewel but idk if I will have enough dock spices

[merry breach]

which channel ?V:

[dreamy spruce]

pins

[rustic garnet]

this one

pin

[bold quiver]

u can do it!

[little pagoda]

I calculated and I will have enough cabbages but don't know about the spices

[bold quiver]

hmm i assume u dont have whale unlocked, right?

[little pagoda]

Not yet

[bold quiver]

unfortunately, nothing u can do then

[little pagoda]

And don't have blooming axe which sucks

[bold quiver]

try saving gems to gamble everyweek for 2 jewels once u can

[little pagoda]

But mayeb I will try to optimize the setup with what I have

[little pagoda]

I always need more gem upgrades so I haven't gotten to that point yet lol

[bold quiver]

=[

[little pagoda]

I'm kinda thinking I need more 3d printer slots

COnsidering it unfeasible to resample every time I want to change

[bold quiver]

jewels are more important than all that but its up to u. More slots is quality of life, jewels = progression

both are good, only dif purposes

[little pagoda]

Yeah jewels are great but they're not guaranteed so...

[bold quiver]

trueee, most of them are late game stuff

only a few combinations are 10/10 for real progress

[little pagoda]

At least next week's one will be the best one for me, free cooking speed

[bold quiver]

niceee o/

[rustic garnet]

The jewels are guarnateed to be unique on each pull

[little pagoda]

I wanted this current one for the kitchen upgrades though

[stiff prairie]

Chips unfortunately, are not.

[rustic garnet]

chips are awful

[bold quiver]

this one is horrible. Its only good cuz u need all blue

[rustic garnet]

seriously awful

[little pagoda]

But if i get late game ones then I get no benefit, only later

[stiff prairie]

Once u pull a gemstone, it's removed from the pool because you can';t craft multiple of them

[little pagoda]

Well it helps to get some upgrades to more expensive tables doesn't it?

[stiff prairie]

chips however, are not pulled, because you can keep crafting them (although only when they reappear)

[bold quiver]

it upgrades, but its horrible so it has no actual value

[stiff prairie]

It would be nice if chips didn't reappear during a chip gamba.

[bold quiver]

your cooking speed is 99% from first royal kitchens

[rustic garnet]

chips are honestly the worst gated addition that doesn't rhyme with foot

[stiff prairie]

So getting choco chip would at least be easier.

[bold quiver]

get out of here!

[stiff prairie]

Boot?

[little pagoda]

Yeah choco chip is just a dream for me

[bold quiver]

if they didnt reappear how would u craft 10 chip sets?

[little pagoda]

If I had choco chip you bet I would have my DK ready to use it lol

[rustic garnet]

my dream is trophy doubler

'craft' would be nice

the fact it's just spending gems to see what you get sucks

[stiff prairie]

My first chocochip is going to be shared a lot that's for sure

[rustic garnet]

you only need 1

2 is just lazy luxury

[bold quiver]

true would be your chance to farm dice obols then straight to maxing PO boxes

[stiff prairie]

Which is why it's going to be shared

[bold quiver]

thats what i did haha

[little pagoda]

Yup

[stiff prairie]

Hey, we can get 2 by february next yeah

1 in december (27th) the second in february, 23th i think it was

[little pagoda]

I have 6 silver dice because I have been lucky so there's that

[bold quiver]

nice

[rustic garnet]

here's my hodge podge of chips

[stiff prairie]

I have a gold pop because i didn't know how to obol

[bold quiver]

might not seem like it but ES is a great dice obol farmer

[little pagoda]

Well it's still sorta useful I guess

[bold quiver]

hs boosted dfrop rate helps a lot

[stiff prairie]

dice > pop.

[little pagoda]

To be honest I still get a fair bit of crystal kills with ES

[stiff prairie]

And yeah, ES is good at farming.

[little pagoda]

But nothing compared to a true crystal farm

[rustic garnet]

only in the square slots, in small circle, pop rocks

[lavish quiver]

I see you as well are only missing the necklace doubler

[stiff prairie]

Yes, but that's because circle dice don't exist

Even seen a round dice?

[stiff prairie]

That's a dodecahundred dice

[little pagoda]

Is that the dice you use to roll for doot

[rustic garnet]

no

the doot dice is actually 3 times worse

[lavish quiver]

Im in the same boat

[little pagoda]

True it's 1 in 200 for me I think

[stiff prairie]

Thats one of the dice you must roll for doot

[bold quiver]

yep its very good

[stiff prairie]

The other is an exact copy.
Roll 1 twice

[rustic garnet]

If you want obols, use DK

even without choco

[stiff prairie]

Unless pop. then ES?

[rustic garnet]

yes

correct

[little pagoda]

Yeah I'm gonna have to do that anyway

[rustic garnet]

pop is main drop

[stiff prairie]

Since pop is front page, so not in crystal droptables

[rustic garnet]

yep

not even crystal drop

bag drops

bag drops are impacted by DK

while ES only impacts the front

[stiff prairie]

whereas other obols are in crystal droptables, so DK is better because orb boosts everything

[rustic garnet]

yeah

[stiff prairie]

Doesn't ES also impact bags?
But only the bags of the summoned monsters

[rustic garnet]

It impacts the first part, from my knowledge

but not the second

[bold quiver]

yes, thats why ES is great for obols

[stiff prairie]

Dk is only better if the map is flat enough

[rustic garnet]

DK is ok on some level maps

[stiff prairie]

Because DK kill rate outdoes ES DR

[rustic garnet]

but it varies

[stiff prairie]

Depends on statue placement

[rustic garnet]

yep

[bold quiver]

DK only multiplies that drop, so u get extra

[little pagoda]

I think the thing about DK is it doesn't have to deal with health multiplier

[bold quiver]

instead of dropin 1 statue, u get 2

[little pagoda]

So you can farm way stronger monsters than you can with ES

[rustic garnet]

it's more than just the multiplier though

it makes the rare table more likely

[little pagoda]

But yes also the crystal chance

[little pagoda]

Ah it increases drop rate inside bag too?

[stiff prairie]

Portal specific wording is "Spawns Wormhole Mobs which give +0% XP & Drop"

[bold quiver]

thats why u will see DK being very bad for rare outside bags loots

cuz the odds will still be the same 1/50k

[rustic garnet]

The DR just doesn't get as crazy high as ES outside bag

it's still good, just not as good

[stiff prairie]

Whereas orb says "+1% active EXP and Drop Rate per mob kill shown above Orb."

[bold quiver]

yeah my dk gets 1/3 of my ES rare drop, its somewhat decent

SB is better tho, can get up to 66%

[rustic garnet]

SB just doesn't kill fast enough

[stiff prairie]

ES gets better DR, much faster, but when the DR is high, the kill count is lower.
Whereas Dk gets better DR but at a slower rate, but kill speed doesn't slow

[rustic garnet]

this is a better description to the difference

[stiff prairie]

Literally a case of balancing kill rate with DR.

[rustic garnet]

And ES only gets the mob that is being portal'd

[stiff prairie]

If you can use ES without worrying about the scaling hp (green mushrooms) then it's way better.
If your ES can barely kill enemies as it is without scaling HP, go DK.

[lavish quiver]

Or if you just want crystal vomit on your screen go DK

[little pagoda]

Is SB better in any situation at all? I know plunderous mobs are rare but still

Maybe with vman buff?

[rustic garnet]

no

SB is good for pumping plunderous kills

[lavish quiver]

Vman buff helps a lot to get plunderous mob count up, but i still hate SB

[rustic garnet]

to get the buff

do this for your own test

go to a map, like citrine

[little pagoda]

I'm currently testing to see where in right my ES can get just for fun

[rustic garnet]

leave ES, DK, and SB there for 1 hour

[dreamy spruce]

is there anyway to check how much time I have left in rift (eg rare drops)

[rustic garnet]

check your results

[little pagoda]

I'm not even expecting to get any of the bonuses

[rustic garnet]

in rift from ES portal?

[little pagoda]

Oh rift 3 reqiores 3 characters RIP

[dreamy spruce]

how much time is left for me to get the 3rd rare drop

[rustic garnet]

oh

[dreamy spruce]

dont remember when I started

[rustic garnet]

not clue

it was never the slow down for me to worry

I just stuck ES on those and got it before I noticed

[dreamy spruce]

ah okay

[rustic garnet]

it's a terrible map for everyone but ES

DK is second 'best' but still awful

[dreamy spruce]

I dont play anything other than es anyway

[rustic garnet]

there are 4 platforms

you should stack bubo a bit

it's really strong to pair

way more coins too

[dreamy spruce]

havent even been doing daily

[rustic garnet]

adily?

CC?

[dreamy spruce]

yeah meant to type cc too

[rustic garnet]

you will need to start getting that 'going'

[lavish quiver]

CC is like every 15 min

[dreamy spruce]

yeah, honestly been neglecting everyone apart from ES

and even ES I lvled from 170 - 220 ish in a few hours cuz I was perma farming drops

[rustic garnet]

see this?

[dreamy spruce]

yes

[little pagoda]

27 hours left I think I can do this

[rustic garnet]

I'm out of water! oh nooooo what could I do

[dreamy spruce]

looks like your out of gmush though

[rustic garnet]

It's entirely about the spice! what is your rate of spice collection?

[rustic garnet]

oh welcome to atoms 😉

[little pagoda]

I really am not sure at all

[lavish quiver]

60sec tutorial 😮

[rustic garnet]

go and look

[little pagoda]

I have been levelling diamond chef entirely using bargain tag

But lemme optimize the docks as much as I can

[rustic garnet]

oh no my CC is:

big cooldown what will I ever do 😉

[little pagoda]

Probably possible

[lavish quiver]

Pretty much thats what you do until NBLB takes it to a point you cant anymore

[little pagoda]

My NBLB can't level those, is there an artifact that allows it to?

[rustic garnet]

there is a pretty strong stopping point for diamond cheff

[rustic garnet]

Sorta....

[dreamy spruce]

atom collider thingy

[rustic garnet]

no

sorry yes

[dreamy spruce]

isnt atomic nblb atom collider?

[little pagoda]

What bonus is it

[rustic garnet]

and sorta

you get the nblb that procs randomly

that will level 'all' bubbles

[little pagoda]

Oh I see

[rustic garnet]

but not the particles

you will eventually get to the point where you can use atoms

but... watch

it DRs hard

[little pagoda]

Here is mine

[rustic garnet]

that's 10 levels and .01 more

[dreamy spruce]

it works weirdly though keep lvling is what I heard

[rustic garnet]

getting to 1.20 or 1.21 is the value

[little pagoda]

I got really lucky and unlocked it early, I had zero diamond plates, now I have 4

[barren otter]

nearly 40 lvls above my diamond chef

and its 0.02 higher

great scaling

[dreamy spruce]

lemme try to find formula

[lavish quiver]

1.3x on diamond chef is hardcap and it hits that at 767 it looks like on the wiki

[dreamy spruce]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message

these ppl would know better than me

but seems like diamond chef scales different than what bubble displays

[little pagoda]

So is it possible to get 300 in a day?

[lavish quiver]

Yea its really good, just looks like nothing is happening on the bubble

[barren otter]

woo

[little pagoda]

I guess I could go build dk, spend all my tickets on w4 colosseum and try to see if i can get 25 breeding? But i doubt it

[barren otter]

this was so annoying to do...

[lavish quiver]

nice im at like 93

[barren otter]

thought my per/hour would be higher

[lavish quiver]

Whats your rate?

[barren otter]

26.4

with 3 dudes in there

[lavish quiver]

Thats good, i know there is a really late sigil that helps but that will be a while for me

This one

[barren otter]

i just got emoji veggie unlocked a few days ago

and 12 days off of peas at golden

i am very far from that liquid sigil

[lost beacon]

Can someone give me a rundown on N Kruk on Vman? Any tips on what to equip?

[lavish quiver]

Hey we arent so far off im 15days from that one

[lavish quiver]

First of all whats your damage?

[lost beacon]

10

But thats poorly equipped

[lavish quiver]

Be prepared for a timely fight

[lost beacon]

I didnt know what to use for keychains, Attack Spd?

[sick sentinel]

10B right? is that completely equiped or current dmg

[lavish quiver]

As long as you can go back and forth one shotting the moles and then damage phase after your aoe you can kill it, its just how long will it take with dmg

[lost beacon]

I'm in Diabolical and still need to upgraade chest and legs

[sick sentinel]

#lategame-chat-w5🌋-w6🌸 message
this is a run down of the fight process

[barren otter]

ive been saving my weekly gems to buy the dumb gem sigil exp boost thing

and even still this shit takes way too long

[lavish quiver]

Yea i got a few of those and they didnt help as much as i would have liked

[lost beacon]

Looks like I'm in for Maestro tunnel syndrome

[tiny shadow]

how do i get my base stats (str agi and wis) to 10k?

[sick sentinel]

stamps, alchemy first and buble 17 (?), %stats gear, talents (boosted by vman goes even further)

[tiny shadow]

thx

[green eagle]

i would have done the TD to 130 on frosty the other day if i knew the guide would dismantled over the weekend 😩

[sick sentinel]

This is pancakes qt least

Tho we are mere mortals

[prisma lance]

Don't trust the numbers, it scale heavly

[lavish quiver]

what level towers

[rustic garnet]

That's interesting

[green eagle]

that's for sure. he has all those towers to 100+ by now i'm sure, and i'll be struggling while he is yawning

[rustic garnet]

Leveling up your atom colider max number of atomized bubbles resets your entire amount

I did 28 today, leveled up, and got 30 more

[lavish quiver]

Yea its nice

[vivid plume]

just unlocked the first god in div with a 1% offering

[tacit tulip]

sure it's not mega gains, but I finally made my last colo bag today, which triggered me to finally stop being lazy with anvil

so I can finally mass produce this crap

[barren otter]

so its just the # on the alchemy page shown isn't accurate?

[olive sphinx]

Who is better for endgame farming bubo or es ?

[prisma lance]

No

[tacit tulip]

it's exponential

[prisma lance]

Every level gives good boost

[barren otter]

tbf mines not even in atom range so I just don't even pay attention to it

but good to know it's still worth atoming when I get there

[signal osprey]

ES has very little purpose as an active farmer in the end game. You play bubo and DK

[stiff prairie]

DK does what ES does slightly worse, but it also does crystal drop stuff way better.

And bubo is the best for coins and alchemy.

[signal osprey]

The thing to keep in mind is that even a .01 increase is more impactful than it seems on dchef because the bubble is applied 57 times

[stiff prairie]

And ES is only better than DK for certain rare drops on maps with a lot of layers.

[barren otter]

oh true I didn't even consider that

[sacred verge]

Dk better than ES for rare drops now?

[olive sphinx]

Aight

[vivid plume]

question about gods do u have to assign them to ur chars individually??

and does the first god affect div??

damn

[signal osprey]

Div doesnt have any afk gains

[vivid plume]

at least the bit upgrade does

[vivid plume]

so its gonna be stuck at 1exp/h forever??

[stiff prairie]

What exactly does the % on polytheism do?

[stiff prairie]

No, theres loads of ways to gain divinity points faster, it's just +30% afk gain doesn't apply to divinity

[signal osprey]

You get a base amount of exp depending on what stance you are using and it can be increased by sources of div exp %

[vivid plume]

so assigning first god to someone who is fighting will affect the char right??

[stiff prairie]

yes they gain +30% afk gain

[vivid plume]

dam

im too lazy to assign it to my bb

he chowing

i like how w5 chat dosent have slow mod enabled

not many ppl talk here

[stiff prairie]

Within divinity itself:
Blessings, which always apply
Up to +200% from snake god. (A x3 multiplier)
up to +300% from bear god. (a x4 multiplier) (together that's x12)
up to 300% from hare god. (x4)
up to +400% from elephant god. (x5)

Theres also stuff in sailing, and probably in alchemy too.

[proud pumice]

are you sure together its x12? it seems aditive, which would be x6

[proud pumice]

hm, how are you supposed to know which bonuses are aditive and which bonuses are multiplicative? i thought the +% meant it was aditive

[stiff prairie]

TBH, the amount i'm getting is more than calculated, but:
The style is vitaic. so 2 divinity/hour.
But that's x28.82 from gods.
I have 6 divinity flames, so a +150% (assuming x2.5)
Then a measly +1% from polytheism, for 145 divinity.
But i get 182 on my ES. so 🤷

Probably missing a boost from somewhere. probably alchemy

[warm kayak]

Does the DK talents for bits and gaming exp stack ( if I have 2 DKs with maxed talents )?

[stiff prairie]

I don't know the answer, but i'm going to guess no since Vman talents don't stack either

[scarlet pawn]

"midgame" gaming feels so bad. Being stuck waiting for a big nugget for weeks on weeks and thousands of extra hours from garden seeds, logs, and the double afk god.

[pure spindle]

Where would i farm the frothy malk star talent book?

Want to get my last couple speed% out of my archer

[stiff prairie]

W1 bosses.

So W1 colo is probably your best bet with DK to truely farm it

Although i don't know whether talent book drop chance is actually affected by DR

[loud isle]

which class should I try max out droprate and why?

[stiff prairie]

Dk probably.

[versed cypress]

dk, es and vman all benefit a lot from DR based on what you want to get

[stiff prairie]

Dk, ES Vman and Bubo are the main farmers.
Bubo is the best for coins (affected by DR)
ES is Best for front page rares because the DR increase is crazy high.
DK is the best for bag drops because the DR from orb affects crystals as well as the main monster.
Vman is the best for bosses, where ES and DK can't boost their DR well.

[loud isle]

thats great info, thanks!

[graceful bramble]

Does Memorial Skulls (%kills per kill per 1000 WIS) give more loot per kill? or only more kill count?

[sick sentinel]

Just deathnote purposes

[tacit tulip]

with the amount of sources of stats and talent points that talent isn't as terrible as it used to be

like, an extra 300% kpk isn't bad at all

[near mist]

What are the best late game bait/fishing line?

[woeful knot]

I need help to increase Vman dmg https://elfinartist1906.idleonefficiency.com/

[green eagle]

almost done with salt lick

[wooden elk]

Get the Conjocharmo stamp for more luck. Upgrade gear, alchemy isn't bad but bigger numbers come from there slowly/quickly depending on your 3D prints and so on.

[woeful knot]

I’m not that far in sailing to get that. I’m sort of working on troll/magma gear and alchemy is super slow. HOWEVER! I am getting close to rift 31 which unlocks ELDRIDGE ARTIFACTS. Basically more dmg

[wooden elk]

Grinding for good eldritch that boost damage significantly will be difficult if you aren't that far in sailing.

I would also recommend mopping up your dungeon items on slab, getting to 1200 will help numbers if you have the bubbles in alchemy.

[woeful knot]

I have trilobite rock. And yea I SHOULD do some dungeon slab stuff but seems hard rn

[wooden elk]

They aren't that hard, just run some solo W1 dungeons.

Eldritch are not as easily obtained as ancients, but if you think the RNG is favorable you can pursue that. You could green stack some more items, I haven't checked deathnote but if you are almost to Eld, you have 1 bil deathnote to start working on.

[green eagle]

lava needs to come out with another coin soon, i'm getting tired of trying to figure out how many godcoins i have

coins* rather

[quiet pewter]

you have more than 5

[acoustic marten]

hey guys, in all the sailing guides on youtube they show this treasure pile escape cheese so you dont overflow and lose out on treasure. that seems to be patched. how does everyone cope?

[tiny mesa]

months of sadness and memories of the way it used to be

[pure spindle]

by reminiscing on the good days

[acoustic marten]

is that talent now worth it that was previously shunned upon?

that upgrades the treasures

or filtering out lower tier chests?

[quiet pewter]

the talent is mostly bad because it stops boats queing at docks, so halves the number of chests you get

[opaque sun]

that talent basically translates to “lose up to effective 21 chest cap for 20% more sail exp”

[quiet pewter]

id go minimum chest rarity if your leaving it for a while, just dont go too high. if your chests are not full you set it too high

[tiny mesa]

depends on time away, ideally you dont use either with 4 hour checks but 8hr with silver filter works well enough with all boats on 2hr as long as your dock gets filled

[acoustic marten]

oh my god so it really is lament the good old days haha (although i did not get to see them)

[opaque sun]

The chest upgrade is just a small pity system. The main effect is it continues to exp

[quiet pewter]

(waits for further clarifications from MrMeSMG)

[delicate thistle]

i hate this

and its only going to get worse ig

[quiet pewter]

super clean user-interface, idk what you mean

[opaque sun]

why you have empty boat

[delicate thistle]

dont have captain

i got a really good trade and got alot of gold bars, bought 2 captain and boat slots, but i only get 1 captain daily

reset in 1 hour though

[woeful knot]

I haven’t got any 100M lava skulls yet let alone any 1B eclipse skulls AND it will take forever on my BM with 7B dmg

[wooden elk]

Start everyone eclipsing in W1, the bonuses will add up pretty quickly. Or, spread it out between W1 and 2, then do 3 and 4, focus everyone back up in W5. There is no right or wrong way, you'll gain damage buffs for everyone.

[woeful knot]

I’ll start that on both BBs after r31 (rift 31)

[green eagle]

more than 5 god coins?

[green eagle]

one overnight session with bubo will overflow my coins and i will have no idea how many i actually have until i start leveling stamps

[wooden elk]

I am waiting on some cost reducers to start pumping important stamps.

[green eagle]

my overall stamp level is still compared to others

i just went over 7k total stamp levels

7.1k to be more precise

[loud isle]

Best class for gmush farming?

[dreamy spruce]

does green tube talent work when linked to 2nd god? but not getting lab xp

[green eagle]

my vman is only at 39b dmg.... it will just be no fun trying to do Nkruk with him

and he's my 4th character, so i'm walled for a tiny bit

[stiff prairie]

Display damage or actual damage? Vman hits harder than value shown

[stiff prairie]

Es, bubo DK and, potentially, SB.
Bubo for bubo reasons, es for es reasons.
DK dislikes that 1 lone floor where he has to keep going up.
SB is there for forge procs. Talent 11 on the archer tab has a %chance to give forge progression. The other 3 classes have better farming rates, but SB has a 2-in-1 effect.

[loud isle]

Thanks bb

[twin token]

Should I focus bubbles or Vials more

Planning to get all the easy Vials to 7 and the really good ones even higher but I dunno if I should focus that or bubbles more

Also which Vials would be the best to unlock next

I can do everything but honker sand blob ballpicklejoe and everything after dreadlo

Oh also kraken

[green eagle]

never checked but does IE show total damage for all hits for vman?

[safe harness]

do folks get skill gear for vman/mman?

or when its late game, i assume all stats gear might be more efficient than mid game efficiency sets?

[wispy bison]

how is a vman supposed to kill nightmare Kattlekruk @.@

[quiet pewter]

slowly

youll need enough damage to one shot a mole, and a lot of time

[wispy bison]

screams I dont think I can out dps his healing

[signal osprey]

Then dont

Kill the moles

[quiet pewter]

dont let him heal

[signal osprey]

When your void radius comes up use it to wipe the screen

Then hit the boss during the time it buys you

After that kill more moles

Or just get more damage and out dps the heals

[quiet pewter]

how much damage is it to out dps btw?

[chrome tiger]

if you can one shot the moles you can do it, just on a sliding time scale

[signal osprey]

Around 200b minimum

[quiet pewter]

ouch

[steel dagger]

my plants look like this and in Mutation it says they can evolve up to 5 times.

Does waiting give me new plants evolves eventually or am i wasting time no collecting some of them that are my max so far?

[quiet pewter]

level 4 is a good aim, 5 are possible just really slow

[steel dagger]

Ahh okay, cuz i got the growth stone on, i thought just getting some more evos for the log book while it's on

[quiet pewter]

whats your cycle speed with it on?

[quiet pewter]

what about when the cat rock thing is on?

[steel dagger]

It is on

[quiet pewter]

well see if you get lucky over night on it. but i wouldnt try too hard on it jsut yet

[steel dagger]

I'm not that far yet, been only like uhh 2-3 weeks since i reached world 5?

I was just omega lucky with that nugget

went from 300 to 10k

[quiet pewter]

10k is nice

[steel dagger]

Which amount is like super super high?

30k? 50 100?

[quiet pewter]

not sure, ive got 204k but im sure theres much higher

[steel dagger]

insaaaane

👁️ 👄 👁️

[quiet pewter]

yeah, you get a hundred bad nuggets then a massive one from nowhere, its jsut random

[steel dagger]

Yeah, exactly what i got, i was shocked xD

[lavish quiver]

Hundred, try thousands

stuck on 17k for 5 months but got 64k a few weeks ago

[quiet pewter]

try to be luckier

[lavish quiver]

I am in different areas, tbh nugget isnt that big of a deal later with snail

[quiet pewter]

true

got my lvl 10 snail today, was pretty happy not to fail and drop to 5

[bold quiver]

soon

[vivid plume]

at this point i dont belive that idleon is a idle game considering how much content and mechanics it has

[bold quiver]

u got punked!

[vivid plume]

idk if i should be sad or happy tbh

[bold quiver]

true

[vivid plume]

question

is there a way to see when u got to a world??

wanna know how ling i been in w4

[bold quiver]

not that i am aware of unfortunately

[vivid plume]

long*

[vivid plume]

dam

i think i was in w4 for less than a month

and then i got to w5

[bold quiver]

I found out about mine cuz i posted pictures here when i beat bosses, so i just checked date from my acc creationg (when i bout autoloot lol) to those marks

then i wrote somewhere an saved haha

[vivid plume]

dam

i didnt post anything

[bold quiver]

oh damn, no way to find out then as far as i know D:

[vivid plume]

wish i could buy autoloot

but i live in iran

[bold quiver]

oh D:

[vivid plume]

cant buy stuff outside country

[bold quiver]

damn thats very unfortunate

[vivid plume]

idleon itself is banned in iran

gotta use a vpn to play the game

[bold quiver]

😮 nice that u can do that at least

[vivid plume]

ye

[bold quiver]

maybe they change the law next year :[

[vivid plume]

nah

prob not changing as long as im alive

[bold quiver]

who knows!

[little pagoda]

Maybe I found a better team comp to unlock new spices than the spreadsheet

[bold quiver]

ohhh for how many slots

[little pagoda]

Was able to cheese 2 areas with it already and I had no business fighting that with my 1.5k ish pet powers

[little pagoda]

It's for early game, 4 slots

It was able to beat biggie hours which is supposed to be hard?

[bold quiver]

nicee Thats good cuz the spreadsheet 4 team comp is kinda "bad" in a way that u need a lot of power for it to work. There are better comps

[little pagoda]

Yeah, maybe that team comp was from before w5 pets

[bold quiver]

no its just unoptimized haha

for example, if the person makign the guide cant craft low power pets, he wouldn tknow it doesnt work that well

not his fault

[little pagoda]

As long as you reach w5, you can get purple shroom, so if you replace your cursory or your fleeter with it and have 2 pets to soak up damnage in front and one mercenary in the back, he is able to drop the bomb twice

Which kills the healers of biggie hours and also deals like half damage

[little pagoda]

true

[bold quiver]

seeems like a good strat, good thing its working lol

and shroom is 1st w4 riught?

[little pagoda]

yes, you don't need to unlock anything, you get ir for free when you kill w4 boss

[bold quiver]

yea

[little pagoda]

It isn't locked behind anything like the 1st w3 pet

[bold quiver]

hm i see thats good to know then

[little pagoda]

I will recommend it to whoever wants to unlock reciper with better odds early lol

Before I had these spices I could barely get to 5% chance, now the recipes are 30%+, and I haven't even used the twilight spice yet

On a different topic, why the hell does the warrior weapon have to take 10 black lenses if all the others need 4 😦

I just want to build my DK

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkkkk true

dont worry , weapon doesnt rly matter for active gaming if u are planning on farming stuff

[little pagoda]

My DK can't really active w5 but he can afk

Only my ES is good

[bold quiver]

yeah active at W5 is a struggle

when i got there i pushed maps until the 1st stamp guy, reached stilted mole and never went back there for a long time lol

[little pagoda]

ES can active no problem because it can reach 8m damage, meanwhile DK struggling to reach 1.5

When I finish drop farming with ES I might push him a bit further, I only got him to 3rd map

I just want a stronger DK so I can farm w4 colosseum a bit better

for eggs/ladles

[bold quiver]

hmm true tht very good toget

need a half decen tdk

[little pagoda]

is that a brazilian laugh

[bold quiver]

yes

[little pagoda]

Cool, I'm brazilian too lol

[bold quiver]

🫡 brave soldier

[zinc torrent]

Is it normal for characters with level 1 and no equipment to be able to do w4 and w5 choppin and catching easily? Not even specialised skills

[bold quiver]

probably if u are strong enough

[zinc torrent]

Im trying to get rift skills up and realising level 1 skills can do w5 loool

[little pagoda]

Do I need to save breedable pets after I already unlocked the next? Does the multiplier still do something?

[bold quiver]

they do if u need the extra chance for shiny pets. But not one actualy levels that after getting the new pet

[little pagoda]

When can I try to get shinies? Is that from pet arena?

[opaque sun]

usually there are enough other sources of shiny chance to make it 100%

[bold quiver]

40 breeding lvl

[bold quiver]

yeah its mostly the lvl 50 multiplier. its insanely strong

[little pagoda]

Then I will thrash most of my old breedables, they are taking too much space

Breeding is sooo slow, hope I can use my dk for colosseum soon for more eggs because it's gonna take ages at this rate

[bold quiver]

u basicaly need more DR. i doubt dmg is the problem

cant he reach 2M? that should be enough shouldnt it?

[little pagoda]

Not at 2m yet but soon

1.6m

[bold quiver]

have u tried doing te coloseum?

[manic moat]

Well that was a little bit of a difference

[little pagoda]

Not with dk, I can do fine with ES but he doesn't get DR for chests

[bold quiver]

u should try once, wont hurt. Maybe u are already strong enough '.'

[little pagoda]

I need a few more library books and a few more levels, then Ithink he can do it

I'm afraid I won't be able to clear before orb despawns

[bold quiver]

hmm isee. Make sure to max orb when are trying to attempt

[opaque sun]

unless your orb talent level is like 1, it should last at least one colo fight

[little pagoda]

Yeah, I can get orb to probably leve 150 or so

[pulsar cliff]

Skill Effiency doesn't matter with balloons, right? Doesn't matter what node you're at, just skill level x Skill EXP?

[bold quiver]

i used to do W4 colo run with a lvl 100 orb '.'

[little pagoda]

Good to know, but I'm still not sure I will be able to one shot every mob (probably not)

[bold quiver]

from what i heard yes

W4 coloseum is the fastest there ist after w1

[little pagoda]

true, it's just one paltform

[bold quiver]

i can run the coloseum almost 4 time with 1 orb duration while W3 coloseum i can do 2

its very fast

[opaque sun]

colo mobs are just w4 mobs so its easy to check their hp via card

[little pagoda]

But I do need good damage to kill mutated mushroom fast

[bold quiver]

u are overstimating w4 coloseum dude haha

[little pagoda]

Yeah, I can do colosseum with ES but he's much stronger than DK

Maybe but I don't wanna risk wasting 6 tickets

[bold quiver]

fair enough

[opaque sun]

DK has like a billion damage? Which is waaay more than enough

[bold quiver]

people run that coloseum at w4 with dk. not even w5 unlocked

[little pagoda]

a billion damage more like 1.7m

He's still weak

I need him to be strong to farm other stuff anyway

[bold quiver]

not rly

he is a lower world crystal mob farmer , doesnt require much dmg haha

[little pagoda]

Well true

I mainly want him for silver pens

[bold quiver]

BUT u will hve to build him cuz of rift

[little pagoda]

I got to rift 3 with ES and then saw it requires 3 characters

So I'm gonna build DK and then bubo

[bold quiver]

makes sense

[fading dust]

This "kill 5 million mobs" in rift is gonna kill me

[bold quiver]

dk is a priority over bubo since he requires less dmg to work

[quiet pewter]

at least it sums across charcters

[fading dust]

Yeah... My other characters only kill 9k per hour ☹️

[quiet pewter]

see you in 56 hours

[pulsar cliff]

Got maybe 10 more I knock out with relative ease but than I wait.

[little pagoda]

which one is it

[modern plaza]

Rex rings vs all stat rings?

[fading dust]

Rift 25 💀

[modern plaza]

for skilling lets say

[little pagoda]

good then I dont have to worry about it yet lol

[signal osprey]

Use stat rings for your hp/mp snap shot and then switch to rex rings

[obsidian nacelle]

If your not on that particular rift yet, you can put chars in and claim ask time after getting there. Should count the kills made unless that’s been ‘fixed’.

[fading dust]

These rift mobs have too much damn hp 😔

[bold quiver]

tell me about it. im in a journey to try and get 100M kills there on BB but he only gets 1,1M

[heavy moth]

super chow on rift 46-47 ?

[bold quiver]

47 yes

pure pain

[fading dust]

damn how do you have so much damage to even multikill them

[bold quiver]

i dont multikill, thats base

[fading dust]

Jesus

[heavy moth]

XD yea feeling the same about it, i should have thought of it in the earlier stage of the rift

[bold quiver]

ahahhayeah

at least its 1,1M per hour, could be worse

its my final mob so it will be worth (not)

[heavy moth]

i need to give some love to mine cause aint no way i do it at 150K per hour

[bold quiver]

yeah no way

[heavy moth]

maybe once ive completed to 1bil all DN

[bold quiver]

no point trying to get that before gettinng enough dmg. Are u done with all super chows already?

[heavy moth]

finishing w4 atm was waiting for a doot to keep going cause well more gains = less candy but i screwed up my l;inking yesterday for resampling so im stuck with him

[bold quiver]

kkkkkkkkk

[heavy moth]

good thing i got 4 goat on atm only 6 goat off for doot gains so not that bad

[bold quiver]

not bad

i wanna get the anvil/forge vials to 1B, but my SB anvil speed is not that great

1h candy gave me 500k thread, that would mean 2000h to finish 1b

[heavy moth]

yea about the same spamming that anvil bubble on hour click

gotta pump those number

[bold quiver]

so much pain kkkkkkk

tomorrow is good chip day isnt it? another card doubler

[heavy moth]

yea another last card doubler will be good

[scenic cradle]

Just got into world 5 couple days ago, and open the bear god. Should I keep putting everyone in divinity or I could do some people back to grinding and stuff?

[snow kelp]

Your choice. Usually get the bear god when first unlocking world 5. Then proceed to grind some more things you need. Would say when you get more dinivity+ per hour, usually from sailing and cooking. Is a good time to push for more gods. But bear god will let you keep your lab bonuses for now. Though that is just my opinion.

[astral knoll]

is Bow Jack better than Quick Slap?

[opaque sun]

for the first few bubble levels until it starts to diminish in scaling while base damage bubbles scales better and better

[outer harbor]

This boss takes so long

[scenic cradle]

Okie thanks for the tips, cuz I wanna grind some resource to level up all my character’s gear

[twilit goblet]

is there a way to restart a round in colo while dk orb is still up? i try leaving anc coming back and the orb is gone

[opaque sun]

as long the orb icon is at top right, the orb is actually still there

[twilit goblet]

ahh got it ty

[opaque sun]

The orb on map is just a visual for the counter, but the effect is stored on top right

Do note the internal kill count resets to 0 on map change tho

[twilit goblet]

ah

wait so for w4 colo, i cant do multiple colo runs stacking the orb kills?

thikning of leaving and entering while buff is still up and just racking up the drop rates

[opaque sun]

when you do the 2nd run of colo, basically you start off with a 0 kill orb with reduced duration

[twilit goblet]

oh same as waiting for orb cd and going in fresh, but saves time i guess

[opaque sun]

But reduced duration is not an issue if you have more than half of the orb duration which is enough to clear another run

[twilit goblet]

yea that's true

btw, how many keys are you getting per run on avg?

[opaque sun]

With decent orb talent levels, its usually just right amount of time to do 2 runs

I dont remember exactly but something close to hundreds of keys i think it was

And like 20-30 eggs

[twilit goblet]

wow 100 key per run? that's insane, what DR are you at currently?

[opaque sun]

15x-17x

[twilit goblet]

🧎‍♂️

sick DR bro

if going for chaotic troll card drop, would the multiplier be better on card drop chance?

the double chip

[opaque sun]

or both

[twilit goblet]

only one chip currently, tmrw though ill get the bottom right

[opaque sun]

enter zone with cdr, then swap to dr as cdr is set upon zone entry

[twilit goblet]

ahh that's clever

ill do that

persist through reset in the boss room?

[lavish quiver]

Thats because your doing it really early

[opaque sun]

Restarting same fight counts as zone change

so need to swap to cdr each fight

[twilit goblet]

so just keep leaving and entering

not a big problem with presets

tq ill set it up

[opaque sun]

you dont have to leave

cdr card and press restart, change to dr and kill boss, change back to cdr and restart

[twilit goblet]

ah cdr then restart counts too, thats better

[opaque sun]

If you are lazy changing, cdr tends to be more impactful for card drop

[twilit goblet]

idm changing, keys are exp haha

[vagrant mountain]

ever feel obligated to do gaming but you really dont want to click plants for 30 mins

[opaque sun]

Gaming has voice/text recognition of “Im going to sleep” to spew out more chemicals

[fast verge]

wait does doot unlock all gods 💀

[crisp silo]

gotta unlock the minor bonuses, but mains are all unlocked

[fast verge]

oh 💀

yeah i was gonna full send but got it a bit early

[crisp silo]

you shall die, gimme

[frigid acorn]

Grats boii , now you shall wait for next rotation

[crisp silo]

i dont think doot would rotate

hopefully

otherwise the years are gonna get even longer

[frigid acorn]

Lava said next rotation coming in 10 weeks when companion was released

[crisp silo]

yea but hopefully only the lower tiers get rotated

i dont wanna wait 10 years for doot

[lunar reef]

If doot rotates out so many people gonna leave, more than already have

Even some of the lower tier pets like bubble pet (sheep?) are op

If they go jesus christ

[crisp silo]

ppl that got 4 bloques gonna quit

[fathom lagoon]

Minor bonuses are unlocked too, it’s the div blessings you need to unlock

[opaque sun]

Minor link bonus of purrmep is locked as that one specifically needs an actual link (even though the main effect activates with doot alone)

[fathom lagoon]

Oh interesting didn’t know that

[hoary light]

okay so I just rolled the rift slug, when does the +25 take place bc my skill lvlvs haven't changed atm

[opaque sun]

going to cloud save (character select) usually fixes those things

[fathom lagoon]

Should be immediate anything that has atleast 1 level goes up by 25. Maybe save and go back

[hoary light]

does it work on vman talents?

[opaque sun]

no

[hoary light]

damn that sucks

[opaque sun]

Doesnt work on those thats not affected by symbols and non top row vman talents

[hoary light]

was hoping to push some of those higher

[opaque sun]

The top row ones do increase, so basically longer speed run duration

[hoary light]

ooh okay that's a solid buff by itself

[little harbor]

I have 2 Bubo and 2 beast master. When will the thing be in the shop so I can swap tjem?

[hoary light]

dude I feel your pain, been destroyed by the super chow bug but can't do anything about it without an elite swap but they're not being sold D:

[little harbor]

Superchow bug?

[oak sail]

if u have two divineknights, does their gaming xp skill stack?

[hoary light]

yeah If you have two BB then the superchow effect from vman only takes effect on the latest BB, so if your frist BB is your big killer then you're basically SOL

you have t either restart kills on the other BB or switch your second one to DK , which requires an elite swap token, which is not currently being sold D:

[signal osprey]

Just use the second BB

Most of your damage bonuses are account wide

And gear can be moved from the first to the second

[green eagle]

Hence why my second barbarian is still a barb.

[signal osprey]

All you really need to do is throw him a couple of talent books

[hoary light]

Yeah it's just annoying that I went through and did 100m kills on like 6 enemies before realizing, I'm at a point where 100m kills takes weeks to get lol

[fathom lagoon]

No

[fathom lagoon]

King Doot Follower bonuses (The Impact of all Divinities at Once, maxed bonuses, revised by _evermore):
+30% AFK Gains, +70% Accuracy and Defense
All characters count as in-Lab, therefore All lab bonuses activated, +15 Talent Levels
2x Kill Count, +200% Damage
6x Printing on All characters, +1000% more coins
+50% AFK Gains (Goharut's main link bonus doesn't count)
Elephant AFK Gains on all characters, +100% Class EXP
Purrmep doesn't count
Divinity pearls when leveling up skills below Lv 50, and +150% Skill EXP
Kattlecruk and Bagur bonuses once they are added into the game.

Posting to find easily later

But Jesus, doot OP

[fast verge]

i dont have a bloque yet