#lategame-chat-w5๐ŸŒ‹-w6๐ŸŒธ

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vagrant mountain
signal osprey
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Only area that matter anymore is beans

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Beans now and forever

bold quiver
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imma become a bean farmer later ! wait for me

heavy moth
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its weird i get 10mil less on that dude XD

bold quiver
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does anyone know why activating fired up on BB gives u higher KPH?

opaque sun
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Its sad that bb has a high risk move of no pain no gain, which doesnt get him more damage than those other non risk talent classes

bold quiver
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thats the joke! u hurt yourself for not actual benefits lol

signal osprey
tulip kayak
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bouta get my last 2 elite classes

signal osprey
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So it wont always give kph but in some scenarios it can

tulip kayak
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2nd es and 2nd sb

bold quiver
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yea thats what i realized

opaque sun
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On maps like frogs, fired up makes differences via attack speed

bold quiver
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huge!

opaque sun
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On smaller maps, you should be at speed cap regardless

signal osprey
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And its benefit gets worse over time as your BB gets stronger

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The more movespeed and attack speed you get from other sources the less benefit fired up will provide

tulip kayak
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level 69 es

bold quiver
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=[

tulip kayak
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oh gosh

bold quiver
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someone didnt do dungeon flurbo!

signal osprey
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Stuff like this makes me feel very out of touch

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I simply dont understand the new player experience anymore

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Its been too long

heavy moth
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had the wrong pickaxe XD

bold quiver
tulip kayak
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lol

signal osprey
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I'm just a jaded late gamer minmaxing for small gains hahaha

bold quiver
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where are your 50 points!

tulip kayak
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IDK???

bold quiver
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lol they are gone wtf kkkkkkkkkk

bold quiver
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5months acc today!

signal osprey
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Apparently I get more tab 4 points from vials than some people have total Grumblo_with_bunny_ears_partying

bold quiver
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have u maxed all monster vials? im missing 2 that vman cant sample D:

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not in the mood to drop on ES also

signal osprey
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I've barely touched monster vials

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ES is a shit class so I'll just print them all

bold quiver
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just finish it dude. Do 1 vman speedrun when u are about to resample and print

signal osprey
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But I'm not resampling yet

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So they have to wait

bold quiver
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thats what i did with all lol

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with your strenght u can get over 1M on all monster mats, so it will be fast to finish

barren otter
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yea but what's your pearler vial at happy

signal osprey
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I know it will be fast its just not worth losing my gold skull

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And pearler vial is still just level 2

bold quiver
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same , 2

signal osprey
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But its going to 4 after I murder beans for awhile

barren otter
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or worse hampter vial...

signal osprey
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Maybe even 5 honestly we'll see how I feel

lavish quiver
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Pickle jar... good luck

signal osprey
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And it will be entirely on DK too

bold quiver
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lol

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DK worshiper

barren otter
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DK owns

signal osprey
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I will use DK in place of ES every single chance where its reasonable to do so

barren otter
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love my dk

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also same I do not like es

signal osprey
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He can get like 70%-80% of the rare drops ES can while getting way more crystal drops, money and con gains

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Plus no desync

bold quiver
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pff MY DK got 1/3 of ES hampters!!

tulip kayak
elfin cape
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I'm guessing I should level SB talent

signal osprey
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Yeah hampters is one of the few maps where its not reasonable to swap DK in for ES

barren otter
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I can run drop rate prayer on my dk on every map too

signal osprey
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Which is why I dont farm hampters even though I dont have full weapons

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I'd just rather not have weapons than use ES

barren otter
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still can't quite run it on wurms on my es yet

bold quiver
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fair

barren otter
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well tbh shouldn't even run it anyways on es

bold quiver
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for some reason my DK is a monster at farmings keys on wurms... getting 70 per hour

barren otter
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yea way higher than anything else for me too

signal osprey
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Yeah hes the best key farmer

bold quiver
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ES was a joke

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even SB was better

barren otter
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es and bubo was shit compared to dk

signal osprey
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ES doesnt have enough damage to keep up with wurm hp

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At some point eventually ES will be the best farmer but thats a long time from now

bold quiver
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true

barren otter
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my dk got my first kruk cape drop too

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so clearly that's a sign

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that dk > all

signal osprey
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Even at 100T+ damage DK is still getting like 50% more keys

tulip kayak
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yippee all I have left is vman ig

signal osprey
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So ES needs like Q+ damage

coral goblet
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to do the chemical plant thing where you get a bunch and then get a ton of progress, how many chem plants should i stack up before doing it

bold quiver
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prob a portal around lvl 200

haughty cove
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it still going

bold quiver
haughty cove
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yup

cold jackal
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oh man i just claimed 18 hours on my es, had the wrong card set on. woops

haughty cove
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but i didn't expected my build well pass 200 with 5 charecters
and no burger

tulip kayak
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what should I do with my repeat elite classes

gentle furnace
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Lab

tulip kayak
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KEKWait wait what

haughty cove
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the build is some randome shit but its worked out so well

lavish quiver
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I know level doesnt matter but ... so close. DK first 500

bold quiver
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lvl matter the most on those breakpoints!!! huge

signal osprey
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Yeah my DK was like 450 or so prior to the boss update because you dont get much exp at beans

bold quiver
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imagine being lik elvl 478, eugh

signal osprey
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Hes 532 after some wurms

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Dk levels fast as hell

lavish quiver
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Second is bubo with 475

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He was 100 levels behind bubo before wurms

signal osprey
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My bubo just hit 530

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And I run active exp cards and double crystal chance on bubo

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I ran no active exp and double crystals when I was key farming on DK

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Could probably hit 550 if I ran an exp setup

lavish quiver
signal osprey
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Maybe one day

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But right now its beans

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And it will be for at least a few weeks

lavish quiver
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Golden nomwich?

stuck elbow
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holy shit i didnt even want a new nugget..

lavish quiver
heavy moth
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finaly

signal osprey
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Plus you get chopping and mining statues too

fading dust
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Does W4 kill ring count fornrift

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Oh shit actually?

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Thinking about getting it to speed up 5 million kill in rift ๐Ÿ˜…

sour flare
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Do Alchemy levels have any point, after I have maxed out every single brew bar?

opaque sun
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The highest level does add some regen speed via the p2w upgrade, but not much

sour flare
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This one? Cos I don't think it gives me -liquid- regen speed, I checked earlier today when I levelled it

opaque sun
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for most general stuff its just some levels for level up gift/bird god

sour flare
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Right, that's a good point atleast. Thanks mate! Does the liquid at level 120 even exist?

patent hatch
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Ye

opaque sun
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you can upgrade it, but no actual liquid yet

sour flare
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Damnit

tulip kayak
limber prairie
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What should I mostly likely buy from the world 5 shop

bold quiver
limber prairie
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My bad I mean with gems

bold quiver
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hmm nothing mandatory at W5. But divinity is nice, sprikler is nice, extra chest from sailing is nice

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w5 is very chill with gems expenditure, nothing game changer

vagrant mountain
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buy everything ๐Ÿ˜†

limber prairie
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I will itโ€™s just I wanted to what to buy fully first

bold quiver
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there is nothing as good as w2-w3-w4 that are mandatory!

vagrant mountain
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yin yang cogs are underrated

bold quiver
vagrant mountain
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oh

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i been playing 2 months that makes sense

bold quiver
limber prairie
bold quiver
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Divinity exp 3-4 times then 4 sprinkler

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if uread there is nothing gme changer there, just more exp for divinity

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sprinkler with chance of not spending charge

vagrant mountain
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yeah mostly qol for w5 skills

bold quiver
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and snail for loot u buy as u get more boats

fresh plank
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Does this mean the position in the mainframe or console?

fresh plank
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Tenk

bold quiver
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Mainframe position is for souped tubes(which follows order of character creation

vagrant mountain
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i just bought all of em so i didnt have to worry about it

bold quiver
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๐Ÿซก

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its not quality of life also

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they are just boosts to speed up progression

vagrant mountain
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my qol is linked to my progression grumblo_preg1

opaque sun
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Also for green tube, the bubo doesnt need to be connected to lab aslong his head icon is at the far right

vagrant mountain
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dang i didnt know that

bold quiver
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funny how fired up skill on bb boosts my KPH by 25% on some maps, its insnae

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KPH went from 5M to 6M on crawlers just from atk speed buff

opaque sun
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suggests maybe your bb not using move speed potions?

bold quiver
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unrelated, that skill boosts atk speed not move speed '.'

opaque sun
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Move speed and attack speed is counted towards speed cap of afk

bold quiver
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yeah dif multipliers

tulip kayak
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um I cant attack the troll

opaque sun
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A class with high attack speed has lower threshold to reach speed cap with a lower move speed

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But if you have high enough move speed, you dont need much attack speed to cap out

tulip kayak
bold quiver
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everytime a map is boosted by fired up i get 25% kph for some reason

opaque sun
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That is why i asked does your bb have low move speed

bold quiver
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ofc not haha everyone always 350%

sick sentinel
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350 might just be for the visual gains

bold quiver
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he is at 387% i can try boosting it higher to see if it changes

sick sentinel
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cause im going from 380 to 411 and its changing a bit

vagrant mountain
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what is movespeed cap?

sick sentinel
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not 25% tho

bold quiver
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i see.. So that talk about 350% speed cap is actualy poorly phrased?

sick sentinel
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350 is the visual cap

vagrant mountain
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so basically active cap?

sick sentinel
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idk about movespeed kph cap

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yeah active

vagrant mountain
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was wondering how that worked cuz my sb is close to 450 lol

bold quiver
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dear lord my kph is even more juiced now

opaque sun
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just tested and my bb aint getting any additional afk info kph with fired up

bold quiver
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so many days lost!

opaque sun
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even with purple flame

opaque sun
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On crawlers

bold quiver
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what is your move speed

opaque sun
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so it seems its just that somehow you are missing something to cap your speed cap

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393%

bold quiver
opaque sun
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What weapon does it has

bold quiver
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Checkout how cool, my KPH is this

opaque sun
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The katana?

bold quiver
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if i equip fire up it goes up by 1M

opaque sun
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My bb doesnt speed cap by default on frogs tho

bold quiver
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forget that dmg increase i misclicked heart

opaque sun
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frogs tend the be the most demanding in terms of speed cap

bold quiver
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Ok so i kinda found out that the problem was! Even tho im not getting 1M anymore, only 200k

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i only had 3 skills on bar

sick sentinel
opaque sun
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so far as im aware, most things should speed cap even without fire up unless its frogs map

bold quiver
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ok so here is the final veredict This is now without fired up and 445% move speed ( i have now all skills on bar and removing/adding another one isnt changing KPH, so its capped on th at

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With fired up i go to that 6,445

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let me see if i equip another speed potion something changes

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492% movement speed

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i tried with 475% but only reached 4335, dude that sinsane ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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Ok, so i had atk speed chip there. I removed and found out by activating fire up that the KPH cap is 6775. BUT, even with all movement speed potions i stillcant reach it lol

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@sick sentinel apparently 522% movement speed and last weapon is not enough to reach map speed cap lol

sick sentinel
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lol

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ur going to go insane

tall horizon
lost topaz
tall horizon
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Attack speed factors in there as well, but it has a cap and most people likely hit it with the new weapons

haughty cove
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almost done

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the bomb dealt like 10Q dmg lol

tall horizon
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Most people can't fully benefit from the op respawn Keychains, so ms is going to be the potion of choice

sand lantern
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https://tonarone1.idleonefficiency.com/
would anyone take a quick look at and tell me where i am lacking? rn im jus farming for greenstacks throughout the worlds

haughty cove
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lets gooooooo
i aimed for 125 but we took all the 200 lol

tulip kayak
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wtf is bro doing ๐Ÿ’€

gray thicket
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Things you cannot comprehend

tulip kayak
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no wonder I had 0 frags

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well time to trash all these ๐Ÿ˜‹

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es full ๐Ÿ˜„

willow drum
# sand lantern https://tonarone1.idleonefficiency.com/ would anyone take a quick look at and te...

alchemy, last bubble for agi you should be able to get some points by using the max reduction. you need to also unlock a bunch of vials. use money to increases chances. start pushing your MK tiers to 100m on every mob. your stamps are atrocious upgrade everything. need to run more dungeons. unlock all points for anvil shouldn't cost much money and you can unlock quite a few with materials as well.

fading dust
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What are the best jewels I should try to get mats for and when are they in rotation?

tulip kayak
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should I keep or throw these away

fading dust
tulip kayak
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kk

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which of these do I toss

fading dust
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Money

tulip kayak
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ok

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ty

fading dust
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Now someone answer my question EmojiSuperSad

tulip kayak
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poggers

fading dust
tulip kayak
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real

willow drum
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jewels or chips

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you should get every jewel

limber prairie
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Should I switch all my character I got in lab to divinity

tulip kayak
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im so pro

vagrant mountain
tulip kayak
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pro dk setup trust

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hows my es

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and is fam good ๐Ÿ˜„

vagrant mountain
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get your levels up Soulface

frozen prairie
tulip kayak
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erm

tulip kayak
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lol

frozen prairie
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oooh

tulip kayak
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can you guess which one pushed

frozen prairie
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first one fs

vagrant mountain
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what was the point if youre not even gonna do divinity ๐Ÿ˜†

tulip kayak
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real

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wdym

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I am

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just erm

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should I delay vman? and stay on lab?

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I have doot soo

vagrant mountain
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yes do vman when you have all blurple skulls w1

tulip kayak
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you want me to do that with 1 char? ig?

vagrant mountain
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you have death note right?

tulip kayak
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of course

vagrant mountain
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blurple skulls w1 death note

tulip kayak
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I know what that means

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im saying do you want me to grind that on one guy

vagrant mountain
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i wouldnt do that yet, you need more damage

tulip kayak
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oh

vagrant mountain
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need to work on alchemy

tulip kayak
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so I SHOULD delay vman

vagrant mountain
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yes

tulip kayak
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oh ok

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ill put them back in lab Sadge

vagrant mountain
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just do lab/div with half of your characters

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and just farm w5 for levels

tulip kayak
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fair enough xd

amber dragon
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I just got to world 5

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what helmet to put on es

tulip kayak
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should I keep my mman on gmush so he can work towards the 12mil still though

vagrant mountain
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gear doesnt matter too much

tulip kayak
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skull

vagrant mountain
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dont worry about vman, he should literally only be used to booost your other characters' skills

tulip kayak
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ok

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vman seems pretty op

vagrant mountain
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he is stronk but he should not be priority

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work on him after you work on your DK/ES/SB/bubo

tulip kayak
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mkay

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im in kinda a unique situation

swift pecan
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Gotta active bubo for those alchemy gains

tulip kayak
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im behind in a lot of ways so I need to play catchup

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I logged on for the first time in a year like 2 weeks ago

vagrant mountain
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lol yeah that will do it

tulip kayak
vagrant mountain
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dont worry about rushing new content there is a natural progression

tulip kayak
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im working on things

vagrant mountain
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and if you try to skip it, you will just have to come back to it

tulip kayak
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im aware

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as I said, im working on it xd

swift pecan
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Work on getting all the alchemy bubbles unlocked, that will help.

tulip kayak
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im trying lol

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im doing as much alch as I can xd

swift pecan
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I put it off for a while, and just started working on it better and the gains are skyrocketing. Hit 10b damage on multiple characters this weekend

vagrant mountain
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i just play the game around alchemy

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gear and everything else is an afterthought

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monsters and skills are a means to get more alchemy levels

tulip kayak
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lmfao

swift pecan
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I started working on gear too, trying to get troll on everyone for now. Then ill work on magma

tulip kayak
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bros going for that level 10k alch bubble

vagrant mountain
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yeah im literally in dementia armour on all my characters

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not upgrading til i can buy 10 sets of troll

tulip kayak
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tf invis vials

swift pecan
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It did grind out the dreadlo bars yesterday so I dont have to worry about them

vagrant mountain
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smith/buy same thing

tiny laurel
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I pushed armor more than anything else and Itโ€™s starting to bite me

vagrant mountain
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pushing to crawlers in this lol

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welfare w5

swift pecan
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That might be painful haha

vagrant mountain
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will double once i unlock last sailing island ๐Ÿ˜†

swift pecan
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I unlocked the last island today, just takes an unreasonable amount of time

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That's the second to last island I think

vagrant mountain
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oh damn

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island 12 right?

undone pollen
swift pecan
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12 or 13 not suee

swift pecan
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Sure

vagrant mountain
magic oyster
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Don't hold your breath on the rare notes, I still haven't gotten a single one

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It

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is very frustrating ;p

tall dirge
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lmfao i forgot/ cant handdle it how do i reset post office ?

vagrant mountain
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if i dont get it in this 45 vials i quit

lavish quiver
swift pecan
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It took me a bit, but they eventually start rolling in

tall dirge
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I meant order streak

vagrant mountain
swift pecan
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Use pen on the shield

twilit goblet
magic oyster
vagrant mountain
twilit goblet
vagrant mountain
frozen knoll
swift pecan
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I used 800 pens this weekend, it sucks

tulip kayak
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2 max boxes ๐Ÿ˜„

tall dirge
twilit goblet
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what are my odds here

vagrant mountain
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imagine using pens, that's what the atom is for Grumblo

swift pecan
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Atom doesn't use them fast enough

twilit goblet
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i do 200 pens daily kek, long way from filling up the boxes though

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but those gaming and sailing boxes are sick

placid mural
swift pecan
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I think I'm about 1k boxes away from getting everything but myriad done

tall dirge
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hmmm what can atoms do for me here?

tall dirge
vagrant mountain
magic oyster
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One of the atoms passively converts pens into boxes, once a day. The number is very very low though

placid mural
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you use a pen on the shield and then use a pen on the order to "open" the order, then dont complete it so it resets

tall dirge
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oh it takes two huh ok ty

vagrant mountain
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the order just needs to be incomplete with no shield by reset

tall dirge
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gotcha wait till reset then ty

lapis mesa
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i was so close... look at all this bread i got

tall dirge
lapis mesa
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uh, lets see i have 204 gems, i did 100 runs on normal and apparently 104 on chaotic

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with this guy

lilac jungle
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Will this revert back to 2mill each or just my v man kills after speedrun?

lilac jungle
lapis mesa
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void with a grandma hat

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think ill make the guy a beanie cuz thatll mean hes cool

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huh, i had apparently stored keys at some point, i have 9 more shots for the 10th scarf

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Woot! got it

kind mulch
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there is any tools for track guild members GP?

lapis mesa
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Oh dangit, did i leave the instance to quick, i mmissing one now

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nope were good ๐Ÿ˜„

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yay

placid mural
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ooooof. . . . what to do

twilit goblet
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EVERY BOX

tulip kayak
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erm

vocal ibex
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Assistance on cooking for all my characters plz? I feel I use everything I have and only get less than 2k xp

tulip kayak
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dont level cooking?

vocal ibex
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I want the rift bonuses

lapis mesa
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i just used the balloons i had, when i have more ill use them to

vocal ibex
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I should of saved the fucken red spheres instead of using then on wood cutting

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Wood cutting was so easy

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Fml

tulip kayak
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you used htem on... woodcutting

vocal ibex
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The red spheres lmao

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Yes

tulip kayak
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why

placid mural
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lol like the single easiest sit and collect skill in the game

lapis mesa
vocal ibex
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For the bonus

tulip kayak
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bruh

lilac jungle
tulip kayak
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bros impatient

vocal ibex
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No I was just going in order

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I hit cooking and fuck it's slow

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If only I knew before hand

placid mural
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it would have been more efficient to just use a 1 hour candy at the last log in W4

vocal ibex
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Started at wood cutting for the rift bonuses and stuck on cooking bahahaha

willow drum
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use all your balloons

vocal ibex
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Yeah I'm go use balloons with a sad face on my face

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Thank you. ..

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๐Ÿคฃ

willow drum
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although I don't think it's worth it to go past 30-40 on cooking for now

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it's a painful leveling process

vocal ibex
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Man I'm trying to get to 15 on all

willow drum
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wish I could see cooking leaderboard lol

vocal ibex
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Is there a chievement or star or something that requires all to have 15 cooking ? I can't recall atm

lapis mesa
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thought it was a constallation for 4 of them having it

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but i cant actually remember

fading dust
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How long did it take yall to get the 5M kills in rift to get eldritch

vocal ibex
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I'm still on it I get 160 k kills an hour

willow drum
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day and half or so

fading dust
vocal ibex
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Not a lot :[

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Whole 31 hours

fading dust
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Damn howre you getting 160k kills an hour? My BB is getting only 50k on the previous 5M kills

magic oyster
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Possibly not obvious, but those rifts are shared credit, so you can split it among as many characters as you want

vocal ibex
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Yeah once I get my others guys off cooking I'm place them on rift to help

fading dust
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Still slow going though ๐Ÿ’€

vocal ibex
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Enjoy the grind bro

fading dust
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The last time I hated the grind was bloodbones

vocal ibex
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Says the guy who can't get 15 cooking on all characters

willow drum
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lets say my cooking is suffering too

lavish quiver
willow drum
lavish quiver
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Easy

willow drum
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if I didn't have to click and hold I would do it

lavish quiver
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Yea that part does suck

gilded vault
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I once managed to gather the courage to use a bunch of them.
My arm still hurts.

vagrant mountain
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should i be focusing my boats on earlier islands to level up my ships?

gilded vault
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You mean to farm for materials ?
Hard to say without ship stats (but even then I couldnโ€™t help much).
As far as I can tell, as long as you cap speed on the islands you want, meh.
With that said I have tried for an eldritch artifact for well over two months now, with no luck, so take what I say with a bucket of salt.

vagrant mountain
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i dont have eldritch unlocked and i got most ancient/artifacts now except for later islands

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highest boat speed is 6m~ and a lot at 1-3m

#

just have my ships focused on remaining ancients but they are not big ones

modern plaza
#

finally set my vman up to start farming some cards ๐Ÿ˜„

civic stone
#

how does king doot work, do things stack?

modern plaza
#

need so many resource cards it's digusting

modern plaza
civic stone
lapis mesa
modern plaza
modern plaza
#

im at like 4.1k account lvl and im finally going to start this

#

just want to increase my samples up u know

lapis mesa
ruby mist
#

what unlocks the eldrich or third teir artifacts in sailing

modern plaza
#

hopefully in this month i'll have most of these at 4star

ruby mist
#

ok thanks @lapis mesa

lapis mesa
lapis mesa
modern plaza
#

really got to get his lvl above everyone else too

ruby mist
#

@lapis mesa stuck on lv 28

lapis mesa
#

mines only at 151, he got to 150 for the vman quest then started skilling, then i had a wild hair to go use up all my boss keys to get blankies

modern plaza
sly plank
#

I just unlocked my 6th pet slot in arena, died out around wave 135

around what pet power should I have to finish pet arena 200?

lapis mesa
modern plaza
#

but it's more about team comp

sly plank
#

cool, thanks, I plan to try the looter team in the guide sheet

civic stone
#

:/ that exp gain

willow drum
sly plank
#

thanks, patiently waiting for tomorrow to try it. gonna take forever though, 135 already took so long cursedpsyduck

lapis mesa
#

got my first wing drop

minor pier
#

so I just got to W5 and was lucky to pull the Moai Bust artifact. I read the effect and I think it means I no longer need that Lab node that shares shrines over a world if this thing shares across all 5 worlds, but wanted to check and make sure

zinc torrent
#

The bonuses are not redundant.

scenic ledge
steady token
#

the Lab node is still useful for leveling shrines, but yes you can get shrines effects all the time without that node

scenic ledge
#

just keep the shrines at w4 town

#

your lab people will level them over time for you

royal olive
minor pier
#

ya I realize now why I see shrines in W4 town in all the videos now. Lab and cooking folks live there, so free shrine xp and applies to the entire game. thats such a huge buff

lavish quiver
placid mural
minor pier
#

ya, looking through the diety bonuses I can see why doot is so op

#

not that lucky for me tho, not yet

willow drum
#

maybe in 2 years

royal olive
royal olive
#

since post i havnt done 1% more of his HP

#

๐Ÿ™‚

#

0.8% so far

willow drum
#

sounds like a waste of 70 keys

lavish quiver
royal olive
#

i REFUSE to waste them

placid mural
#

yeeeeaaahh

royal olive
#

i will afk here til hes dead

placid mural
#

you will get 70 more keys (much more than 70 key most likely) in the time it would take to kill him

royal olive
#

No i dont

#

My dmg is el garbo

#

i might get 5 keys in that time

placid mural
#

how many keys do you get an hour?

royal olive
#

maybe

#

probly 1 or 2 an hour

placid mural
#

oh

lavish quiver
#

are you able to kill wurms with dk

royal olive
#

DK not up to worms map yet

#

hes on the mining hat guys

#

my dmg has been stagnant for months, below 1B

lavish quiver
#

Maybe you should have waited on this one

royal olive
#

yeah fair call i think i will abandon this. 70keys down the shitter

lavish quiver
#

dont worry that is only 70 keys out of thousands you will farm some time because that drop isnt going to be easy

#

Also you dont want to get the drop until you have the tired mole quests on the last stage

magic oyster
fresh plank
#

Is this worth using when playing actively for deathnote count?

lavish quiver
#

Normally no because at -%50 you will be going down a tier of multikill

next locust
#

Rarely

fresh plank
#

Oh oof

zinc torrent
#

Only worth if you have no multikill but would stay high enough to not lose total kills

prime imp
#

it is good in rift

#

I think it isnt multiplicative with lab/divinity 2x deathnote kills. Correct me if I am wrong

next locust
#

But isn't damage usually the biggest problem for advancing in rift?

prime imp
#

I always reach more kills/h with this prayer. Cause no miltikill

next locust
#

Yeah for afk, cause the attack talent multipliers up to kill cap

#

Didn't even think about the 5mil stages

kind mulch
#

there is any tools for track guild members GP?

haughty cove
#

how can i do that these?

next locust
balmy thunder
haughty cove
#

ty

ebon thunder
#

If I use the divinity link that lets me connect to the divinity from the lab, do I only get divinity and lab exp if I am in the lab or at the altar?

next locust
noble mesa
ebon thunder
#

I see, tq

scenic ledge
prime imp
next locust
# prime imp np ๐Ÿ™‚ so it is not multiplicative?

Oh the kills/h is multiplicative. I got exactly double the kills when putting the div 2x on, with both prayer setups, and slightly less kills on both setups when putting the prayer on (lost a multikill tier both times),
but I was somehow twisting the damage penalty with kill count in my conclusion or something. Haven't had my morning cup of coffee yet so wasn't sure what I did wrong so I just removed the post haha ':D I had to shift my lab slaves around a lot to get that divinity working for the test and it was definitely too early for this kind of brain work

#

Well, almost anything is multiplicative in a game like this, but they're in a different multi group (unless I made another mistake) so the kill count bonus applies fully. Had lab 2x bonus active the whole time so if it wasn't another full multi (it's own group) the other bonuses would've been diminished

#

No idea what multigroup that damage penalty belongs to, if any, tho. Is it additive with anything else?

ancient quail
#

Is there a bonus that allows you to turn pens into post office boxes? I think I saw that somewhere but can't find it again

lavish quiver
#

Although i wouldnt say its really anything

#

The rate at which it converts will take forever to complete PO

ancient quail
#

oh, so it's not like instant

lavish quiver
#

No, its X a day

ancient quail
#

I guess the sailing bonuses are better then, +x% chance to get double

lavish quiver
#

so it goes up to 30 a day although if you have all those upgrades in atom im sure PO isnt a problem so prob like around 10 a day which is nothing

ancient quail
#

yeah, i don't even got atoms unlocked, I guess once you're that far in, you're close to the end anyway

lavish quiver
#

Pretty much, just got to click a lot in PO

ashen marsh
#

how long should I take to discover new clouds?

#

2 hr?

naive idol
#

much more

#

maybe a day

zealous niche
#

Whatโ€™s the over/under that the islands will fix fishing exp rates?

ashen marsh
#

anyone have a copy of the guide sheet?

#

they updated it and took everything off

vagrant mountain
lavish quiver
#

Someone has been lazy

vagrant mountain
#

yeah my second sb heh still has lvl 100 catching talents ๐Ÿ˜†

#

3-10x all my prints today feels good

lavish quiver
#

Yea mine is about the same, i feel its just not as important as getting your choppin and mining samples obviously those are the atoms

vagrant mountain
#

i went from 5 atoms an hr to 60 happy

#

hourly clicks soon

lavish quiver
#

yea thats where i am at, if i remember

#

i feel like its bi-hourly from me not remembering to click

fallen flax
#

What stamps are generally good to use the gilded stamps on?

lavish quiver
#

multi tool if you have it

vagrant mountain
#

i like using on crystallin or glass shard stamp

mystic mountain
vagrant mountain
lavish quiver
#

crystallin is good as well

barren otter
#

these are good too

opaque sun
#

or anything with many levels per material upgrade for the masteries

barren otter
#

i cant even upgrade multi tool even with a gilded stamp smoge

vagrant mountain
#

shit i didnt use royal sampler ๐Ÿ’€ im not redoing my prints tho

lavish quiver
vagrant mountain
#

i keep forgetting to turn it on for my bm

barren otter
#

go resample...

fallen flax
#

I have multi tool, but I'm bottleneck more on gold there. Crystallin looks good. I have my DK at 1 in 61 crystals. Thanks all!

barren otter
#

turn it on so you never have to remember to turn it on again

vagrant mountain
#

no way im resampling ill do it next week ๐Ÿ˜†

#

but yeah good point ill turn it on rn

barren otter
#

yea at least put it on

vagrant mountain
#

sampling's that one weekly for me i hate doing because i always forget something at the end of my sample run and then ill have to redo all my samples

barren otter
#

tbf it is a bm

vagrant mountain
#

ya the sample was gonna be shit anyways

barren otter
#

those samples are for the most part useless

vagrant mountain
#

๐Ÿ˜†

prisma lance
lavish quiver
#

did a thing

vagrant mountain
#

nice

lavish quiver
#

So i got 1 wing out of 47 nm, which is only 1/1000 chance ... kinda makes me think im nevery getting cruk wings

barren otter
#

pretty sure im at 1 wing out of 225

#

i do have 3 necks and 6 obols tho

lavish quiver
#

i got 3 neck in 8 runs somehow the other day, so far only ones i have with 1 obol

barren otter
#

the good thing right now is that only 2 of my chars can even use the trophy

#

lvl wise

lavish quiver
#

same

barren otter
#

but 15k+ keys all on nm and only 1 cape

#

its pretty demoralizing to keep going

lavish quiver
#

only 3 can wear the neck tho as well i need to get them up

lavish quiver
barren otter
#

14-15x depending on char

lavish quiver
#

I can get a bit over 14 so yea, gonna be rough

barren otter
#

make sure to put midas on unlike me!

lavish quiver
#

i need to work on plunderous mobs

barren otter
#

think i did half of my nm kills without midas on cause i forgot

lavish quiver
#

oof

potent maple
#

ugh when i'm trying to go through a bunch of time candy or something, the "afk" window moves around all the time so i can't just get a clicking groove, anyone else notice that

#

why would that afk window move around? grr

lyric sequoia
#

Size of the window depends on the amount of separate items that drop

opaque sun
#

Need to teach your little brother to click in multiple spots

lavish quiver
#

I guess ill teach my cat

steady token
#

Grumblo press space to claim offline gains

crisp silo
#

You can click space?

#

Well i guess lil bro gonna need to learn more stuff

errant sluice
#

i need to try that

#

oh im stupid i thoughr you meant all gains going into inventory instead the ground

thorn marsh
#

how the hell do people make it past pet arena 120+ without crashing?

lavish quiver
thorn marsh
#

ya

#

tried phone, but crash as well

lavish quiver
#

Less things going on in the background can help so stop cooking and take pets out of the fenceyard while you do a run. Less animations the better ... id also go to low pop server to see if that helps

thorn marsh
#

done all of that ๐Ÿ˜ข even forced GPU and gone down to 20fps

harsh star
#

Turn off auto for a bit helps alot

thorn marsh
#

gotcha

frail mauve
twilit goblet
#

is it worth it to put traps on vman to powerlevel all trapping for better bonus on vman critter and soul talent?

currently all my chars can use royal trap

#

or does it scale poorly so its not worth it

lavish quiver
#

You would do Vman but not for his vman talent but for Transfusion

twilit goblet
#

yea I'm planning to utilise transfusion to get a lot of exp

opaque sun
#

full exp on vman, maybe like 1-2 exp traps placed by vman on other classes

twilit goblet
#

was wondering how well does the skill scale based on trapping level

#

like that cooking talent goes bonker after enough meal levels for example

lavish quiver
#

Its not like that skill but its still good for getting more critters

pulsar cliff
opaque sun
#

its trapping/worship level of vman, so other characters doesnt need that much trap levels

#

Just enough levels to wear future traps

twilit goblet
#

ah only vman

#

glad I asked , was going to put all exp traps thinking it applies to total level haha

twilit goblet
#

Guess I gotta pump those worship up too

quiet pewter
#

sounds like a good plan, i need to sort out my trapping too. it matters who places the trap?

hollow wasp
#

And have the right cards equipped

quiet pewter
#

so place all traps using BM, and just let them collect naturally using the 24hour thing?

dreamy spruce
#

or use eagle eye to collect more often, its more efficient generally speaking

quiet pewter
#

it uses the stats of the person placing it even when i place a trap on for example my SB using my BM to place it?

quiet pewter
quiet pewter
#

lol, is it straight up bugged? i dont see why that would be intended. good to know, ill redo all on my BM

dreamy spruce
#

I think with rift bonus the BM would get all the xp (if you place on bm)

zealous niche
zealous niche
dreamy spruce
zealous niche
#

The char who has the trap assigned gets all the exp regardless

dreamy spruce
quiet pewter
dreamy spruce
#

is wiki wording just confusing?

#

ah okay, good to know. Thanks

muted magnet
#

is this one really good anyone who has it?

zealous niche
#

If I use my vman to place traps on my bubo say, the bubo gets the exp using the vmanโ€™s stats

quiet pewter
# dreamy spruce

ah no, thats not what im asking. i mean the bonus critters etc when placing the trap

quiet pewter
#

id imagine it would be good though

#

please let us know

quiet pewter
zealous niche
#

The hippo is eh

#

steak is good though

quiet pewter
#

given the relativly better odds on hippo is worth it though

opaque sun
#

Exp/critters using the stats of whoever placed it is an intentional QoL feature

pulsar cliff
quiet pewter
#

only one that can actually be skipped is the eyeball that helps with shiny pets imo

quiet pewter
#

i hope daftong says something cool

jovial bloom
#

ok. I try today to catch and redirect my game... so i got a lot questions... (and i don't use IC). So...

  1. I have sheep pet, does that mean i don't need to have any active big bubbles (cause they dont give any extra bonus).
  2. I need to boosts my Printing powers... currently at 7mil logs at 110 wood cutting skill.
  3. Need to boosts dmg. all my characters are +400lvl and since W5 all of them been mostly afking crawlers. (i play mostly once in day) DMG is from 300mil to 2bil (from lowest to highest between all 10 characters)...
  4. biggest downsides i have is "spice production (i have about 2-3mil on all. (miasma, leaf, burger and whale.)
  5. i ask later.
quiet pewter
#

1 yes,
2 atom the first 3 bubbles on wizard and warrior
3. someone smarter can answer this
4. spics is just kinda slow, cooking mostly comes from other sources.
5 ok

tacit tulip
#

Damage is just...more alchemy

opaque sun
#
  1. Alchemy
pulsar cliff
willow pelican
#

When in doubt alchemy it is

opaque sun
#

for spice, try to fit in converters and alchemic as much as possible

#

all lanes should have converter, and lanes up to coarse mountains do better with alchemics + converter as forage speed basically hits a diminishing wall

jovial bloom
pulsar cliff
#

OH.

#

I thought you were claiming you possessed that many of th espices lmao.

willow pelican
#

This is fairly good, just replace the mono and looter for converter

pulsar cliff
#

^

jovial bloom
#

i only want +30k ones... so no luck yet.

opaque sun
#

alchemics basically makes it 1.5x more yield, and converter makes like 2x more yield

willow pelican
#

Literally a converter with 1 power gives you more spices

jovial bloom
#

and i still need those last lave spices

#

or last one?

opaque sun
#

looter to get next tier spices isnt really a viable thing

twilit goblet
#

finally done it

jovial bloom
#

darn i wish i could see base stats of captains? is the calculator or something... dont really know at this point when all 12lvl have +300%.... (and yes it's bad but those are double so 600%...)

jovial bloom
twilit goblet
#

those are all exp traps

#

thought ill give it a day and see how many levels i can get haha

#

damn 12m

#

greenstacking critters

jovial bloom
#

oh... you gonna be past my 80lvl like... wroooomh

sand summit
#

Greenstacking shinies sounds like a good plan right

twilit goblet
#

better max your prayer

sand summit
#

I haven't yet kekw

jovial bloom
#

oh right i totally forgot prayers... actually i mean gods...

sweet mountain
#

Ok. Got Salt Lick, Merits and eldritch fury artifact. Is there anything else I can take that raises the max book lvl?

sand summit
#

Rift slug I guess?

#

Oh and 1000 checkouts achievement

jovial bloom
#

iam at 160max level without relic... so dunno

sand summit
#

I'm at 195 rn with regular fury

#

So I can go up to 245

#

270 with slug

jovial bloom
#

relic was 75 at gold?

sand summit
#

25 regular
50 ancient
75 eldritch

jovial bloom
#

oh.

sand summit
#

I think 270 is the top rn then?

#

Excluding +lvl stuff obv

#

With arctis and ES family passive and symbols you can easily go over 300

#

300+/270

#

Excluding specific skills

sweet mountain
#

Considering only book lvl I'm at 235, What am I missing then? +10 for merits, +5 for achievement, +75 for fury, +20 from salt lick, +20 from gem shop. How are you at 270?

jovial bloom
#

someone of my character had one of those basic attibute skill at +500 bruh my bubo has only 375....

sand summit
#

Gem shop is minimum level

#

Not Max

#

And Im not sure I must be missing a passive somewhere

#

Cuz I remember having max level 195

bold quiver
#

My ES has 285 total talent level (shown) (without the slug bonus) and he is lvl 453

sweet mountain
#

Oh.. ok. Then you are considering total level. I just wanted to check max book level.

jovial bloom
#

not meant to be rude... but you missing this????

sand summit
#

No he said he got merit

jovial bloom
#

oh you got them

sand summit
#

Smth else might be Missing

#

At times like these idleon insight will save us

bold quiver
#

There isnt anything extra he is missing +10 from atom collider

#

235 + 10 from collider = 245 max talent level

sweet mountain
#

Ok. Thnks.

sand summit
#

Yea i just checked it's atom collider

jovial bloom
#

did get this one tho? rift or what?270 with slug

sand summit
#

Rift slug increases the limit to 270 but it's a gamble

bold quiver
#

it doesnt increase limit, its only extra lvls. Limit still 245

sand summit
#

I do believe slug also just increases skills by 25 levels rather

#

There

jovial bloom
#

i didnt do rfit past first two stones... worth it?

sand summit
#

I wanted to say that

#

Rift is absolutely worth it

#

The bonuses are huge

#

The further you can go the better but it slows down quick with the HP scaling

sand summit
bold quiver
#

only one that isnt actualy useful is vaccum for critters, everything else is good in its own time

sand summit
#

Oh I think vacuum is fine

#

Cuz im lazy with traps

bold quiver
#

its pointless cuz i have to log in for it to activate

jovial bloom
#

oooh yea... it was do it with multiple characters... that why... i havent done even W4 constellar. (stars)

sand summit
#

Infinite Star signs are great for one

bold quiver
#

its just a useless thing to exist. Doesnt even give quality of life since u still have to log in dfaily, and u could just click on trapping drone

sand summit
#

Masteries are a decent bonus

bold quiver
#

mastery is HUGE

sand summit
#

Stamp mastery or whatever it's called is an endgame thing im pretty sure?

#

Idk

bold quiver
#

yeah its good once u cant afford the best stamp upgradeswithout it

sand summit
#

Skulls are skulls, no downside there

#

Huge dmg if you can get the skulls reliably

#

Not me lul

#

Only skull I have is gmush

#

Haven't reached ruby cards yet but I imagine that's also a general plus to have

tacit tulip
#

I have gmush and tremor wurms skull lol

sand summit
#

I just really hate the lava skull rift thing

#

I can't be bothered

#

Xd

acoustic marten
#

tempted to go for the 50%.
or should i hit the 5 in hopes i roll a 100% for right side?

what u guys think?

bold quiver
bold quiver
sand summit
#

Is there a particular reason to kill worms that much or Is it just cuz xp

bold quiver
#

i was so unlucky with gods past the initial 3 that i wouldnt be crazy to go 50%

tacit tulip
pulsar cliff
#

Down to 65 slab items left. Wooo

bold quiver
#

ye

bold quiver
#

there should be a way to upgrade it so u can claim in time of whatever trap u choose or something - automaticaly

sand summit
#

I can't even remember if there was anything after ruby cards

bold quiver
#

Rubt is worth. U should do it if u can

sand summit
#

But lava skulls reee

tacit tulip
#

Wave 50 is max so you can't reach 51 yet for the next unlock

sand summit
#

I don't even mind the afk rifts

bold quiver
#

i dont remember being lava skull there

sand summit
#

Oh

bold quiver
#

are u stuck at a lava skull thing? ';'

sand summit
#

Oh dear that means I have a different thing to unlock yet

#

What is it

#

I thought ruby cards was my next unlock xd

bold quiver
#

41 is construction mastery 46 ruby cards

sand summit
#

Ah

#

Construction mastery

bold quiver
#

construction mastery is one of the strongest things for progression

#

insane

sand summit
#

I see

bold quiver
#

this bonuses

tacit tulip
#

Finally made me level up my shrines lol

sand summit
#

Well my highest oh wow that is really good

bold quiver
bold quiver
#

better than ruby cards overall

prisma drift
#

Go for 7 or stop at 6?

pine pond
prisma drift
#

I have doot

bold quiver
#

irrelevant

sand summit
#

Well I guess I'll have to do it at some point anyway do I'll do it once I come back from Japan

pine pond
#

^

prisma drift
#

Breeding claims from Omni affect it

bold quiver
prisma drift
#

I have not played 215 days

bold quiver
#

it doesnt affect

pine pond
#

thats just how fast it levels up

#

silly goose

sand summit
#

Shinies level up so much faster than you think lol

#

A bit misleading

prisma drift
#

Ah I am dumb hahaha

pine pond
bold quiver
#

if omniproc worked there i'd be lvl 1000

prisma drift
pine pond
#

ill raise you 10k ๐Ÿ˜›

prisma drift
#

Was 180 yesterday though

sand summit
#

I'll raise you 200

prisma drift
#

So we working on it

pine pond
#

was 7800 3 days ago

bold quiver
prisma drift
#

So I stop at 6

sand summit
#

Tru you can have 8 of the same shiny

#

Or more idk I didnt level fence

bold quiver
#

27 of the same shiny there

#

so 1 day = 27 days plus extra level up speed, which can get to 2x. (ormore

sand summit
#

Wow that would probably level things up fast

#

Reminds me of idle skilling pet lab thing that snowballed so much

bold quiver
#

be lazy like me!

pulsar cliff
#

I should go rotate my pets, I've sat the same ones in there for like a month lol

bold quiver
#

1 of each important bonus and filling the excess with speed

sand summit
#

Honestly the biggest hurdle in pets that I have rn is getting enough dead dna

#

Need more eggs I guess

bold quiver
#

Indeed. its a real struggle

sand summit
#

I could to Colosseum a hundred times

#

Do*

prisma drift
#

I am letting my eggs sit for fancy colors

bold quiver
sand summit
#

But then again that sounds like a lot of effort

bold quiver
#

im done replacing all my burgers on spices for power 85kplus ones. nothing else to do that. Its close to my max power

sand summit
#

Wish I could reset the Colo with one click instead of going out and in

bold quiver
#

would be nice

sand summit
#

Actually I wish I could just do 20 colos at once

#

Just scale the HP of everything

bold quiver
#

good think about colo4 is that u can do 3 runs with 1 DK orb if its high lvl enough

sand summit
#

Lol not enough duration on mine xd

bold quiver
sand summit
#

I also still have to do more dumgeons ughhh

#

Need more happy hours

#

Anyway I'm not spamming this channel anymore

#

I know what I must do when I return now

#

Everything basically

#

Classic

pine pond
bold quiver
next estuary
#

Does Nobisect(2x deathnote kills) god work for afk kills?

teal lynx
opaque sun
#

nobisect doubles kills as a kill per kill type of kills, so yea it increases afk kills, but that increased kill doesnt not contribute to mob drops/samples

pulsar cliff
#

One day I'll get the arcade stamps ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

bold quiver
#

At max orb u can run W3 colloseum 2 times with 1 orb
W4 3 times (maybe 4) with 1 orb
W2 tricky but u can get 2 if everything goes perfect

bold quiver
pulsar cliff
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I feel like since I started hahaha

teal lynx
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I wasted so much time waiting for the Cooldown GuyMontag

bold quiver
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i hate coloseum 2

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even tho its the best for candy its so annoying to wait

pulsar cliff
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Tbh I've only maxed out one of the traits from the gold ball store so not like. INSANE.

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But long enough?

bold quiver
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1 year?

pulsar cliff
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Eh probably 2.

bold quiver
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dear lord and how many balls do u get per day? 48?

pulsar cliff
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Haven't always been the most efficient players lol

bold quiver
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hahah

pulsar cliff
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Yeah 48

bold quiver
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sad. i got 1 stamp yestrday but it was the worst one

pulsar cliff
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Time?

bold quiver
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playtime? 5 months now

pulsar cliff
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I meant

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Stamp lol. Time for collect?

bold quiver
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where do icheck that

pulsar cliff
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I meant.

Teh stamp.

It increases the amount of time for collecting max?

bold quiver
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it is what its saying '.'

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7,76h is what it sayz

pulsar cliff
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Yeah, i'd rather either of the other two stamps lol. But still, at least nice for some levels?

bold quiver
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indeed. i got it up to 55

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can get to 65 probably byut i didnt have logs at the time i was upgrading kkkkkk

brittle dagger
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If I equip an infinite star sign, do I get double its bonus?

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Or is it still just a single bonus

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I see conflicting things and that I need a lab chip or something?

dreamy spruce
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you dont get a bonus afaik, I think you would get the negative though

brittle dagger
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gotcha

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thanks

bold quiver
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u dont get the negative o.o

dreamy spruce
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ah I thought you did when you equip them anyway

bold quiver
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no haha

bold quiver
bold quiver
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๐Ÿซก

sharp garden
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Is it worth going all Omniphau if you want to get all Eldritch version of Artifacts? I feel like I've hit a wall with the low chance to get one

bold quiver
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best setup u can do

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Make sure your active ES is not linked on altar to omniphau, that way u can just swap on talent if u are going afk

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sou run bear+harieph while active and swap bear to omniphau on afk

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Even BB or SB, its not worth having them linked at nobisect/snake

sharp garden
stiff prairie
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I havent got the "6 char lab" setup just yet, so i only have 5 omnis and 5 bears

sharp garden
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Sounds good

placid mural
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I'm glad lava is posting again

zinc torrent
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Predictions how many purchases lava will add with island exploration?

placid mural
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I bet it will just be a limited shop

glad crow
quiet pewter
glad crow
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well... one purple gem would cost 500 blue gems, 100 green gems and 2,69$

quiet pewter
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make it 101 green gems and then only sell green gems in multiples of 100 for extra lulz

zinc torrent
viral snow
rapid locust
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Why not both?

opaque sun
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Electronic Artivision

vale wadi
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why doesnt my bubo his skill cranium cooking automaticly? its on the bar.

opaque sun
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if you have other talents that blocks the usage maybe like teleport and potion throw

vale wadi
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why would that block it?

opaque sun
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Also the order on the bar matters as if you tenteyecle and reduce cooldown alot, he may never reach using talents at the end of the skill bar

vale wadi
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Its the first one at the bar

opaque sun
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Game tries to use potion throw, but cant since its a manual skill so the skill usage stops there

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Teleport has a 0 cool down so game can never use other skills placed after teleport

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And say if the first 4 talents recovers the cooldown before reaching the fifth talent, it may never use cranium

vale wadi
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still handy to know this stuff

opaque sun
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So you would want to place like:
cranium, raise dead, aura, fart

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And you also want to NOT place other skills that may bother with the skill prority

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Other classes its not much an issue as the cooldown is long enough to make a full cycle

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Bubo is a consideration as it effectively has lots of 0 second cooldown skills which interfere with the skill usage priority

fresh plank
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Wot are better atom makers, DK or ES?

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Through printer^

opaque sun
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oak prints way more than copper

solar valley
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guys, how can i increase the artifact chance?

opaque sun
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Of dootless mages, ES tends print a bit more than bubo due to use of 2nd god. For copper bb and DK are very close but DK gets slight more HP for the efficiency bonus

fresh plank
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Dootless?

dreamy spruce
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without doot

fresh plank
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King doot?

fathom lagoon
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Doot pet

fresh plank
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Ohhh

fathom lagoon
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Since doot effects printing pretty hard

fresh plank
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Forgot bout that thing

opaque sun
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With doot, bubo and ES sampling power is pretty much the same

fresh plank
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Think Im better off converting my 2nd Bubo to ES, rather than hope on getting Doot on a 25% a year chance ;-;

twin token
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When snapshotting I put on the snapshot gear quick ref alch then swap gear back?

pastel heath
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anyones name in idleon start with a P

dreamy spruce
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gemshop, not quick ref alch

twin token
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Thx

sick sentinel
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No for snapshot your quick ref alch

twin token
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Oh

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Ok

sick sentinel
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Card drop snapshot is refresh map woth gemshop or reenter map

pastel heath
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anyones name in idleon start with a P i need for quest to get a stamp

twin token
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Ic

dreamy spruce
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oh theres different kidns of snapshotting?