#lategame-chat-w5๐-w6๐ธ
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imma become a bean farmer later ! wait for me
its weird i get 10mil less on that dude XD
does anyone know why activating fired up on BB gives u higher KPH?
Its sad that bb has a high risk move of no pain no gain, which doesnt get him more damage than those other non risk talent classes
thats the joke! u hurt yourself for not actual benefits lol
Attack speed is factored into reaching kill cap
bouta get my last 2 elite classes
So it wont always give kph but in some scenarios it can
2nd es and 2nd sb
yea thats what i realized
On maps like frogs, fired up makes differences via attack speed
huge!
On smaller maps, you should be at speed cap regardless
And its benefit gets worse over time as your BB gets stronger
The more movespeed and attack speed you get from other sources the less benefit fired up will provide
level 69 es
=[
oh gosh
someone didnt do dungeon flurbo!
Stuff like this makes me feel very out of touch
I simply dont understand the new player experience anymore
Its been too long
had the wrong pickaxe XD

I'm just a jaded late gamer minmaxing for small gains 
where are your 50 points!
lol they are gone wtf kkkkkkkkkk
that will be me if im still playing until next year! im just a baby player
5months acc today!
Apparently I get more tab 4 points from vials than some people have total 
opsie
have u maxed all monster vials? im missing 2 that vman cant sample D:
not in the mood to drop on ES also
just finish it dude. Do 1 vman speedrun when u are about to resample and print
thats what i did with all lol
with your strenght u can get over 1M on all monster mats, so it will be fast to finish
yea but what's your pearler vial at 
I know it will be fast its just not worth losing my gold skull
And pearler vial is still just level 2
same , 2
But its going to 4 after I murder beans for awhile
or worse hampter vial...
Maybe even 5 honestly we'll see how I feel
Pickle jar... good luck
And it will be entirely on DK too
DK owns
I will use DK in place of ES every single chance where its reasonable to do so
He can get like 70%-80% of the rare drops ES can while getting way more crystal drops, money and con gains
Plus no desync
pff MY DK got 1/3 of ES hampters!!
I'm guessing I should level SB talent
Yeah hampters is one of the few maps where its not reasonable to swap DK in for ES
I can run drop rate prayer on my dk on every map too
Which is why I dont farm hampters even though I dont have full weapons
I'd just rather not have weapons than use ES
still can't quite run it on wurms on my es yet
fair
well tbh shouldn't even run it anyways on es
for some reason my DK is a monster at farmings keys on wurms... getting 70 per hour
yea way higher than anything else for me too
Yeah hes the best key farmer
es and bubo was shit compared to dk
ES doesnt have enough damage to keep up with wurm hp
At some point eventually ES will be the best farmer but thats a long time from now
true
Even at 100T+ damage DK is still getting like 50% more keys
yippee all I have left is vman ig
So ES needs like Q+ damage
to do the chemical plant thing where you get a bunch and then get a ton of progress, how many chem plants should i stack up before doing it
prob a portal around lvl 200
it still going
most important being alive is looter and those 2
yup
oh man i just claimed 18 hours on my es, had the wrong card set on. woops
but i didn't expected my build well pass 200 with 5 charecters
and no burger
what should I do with my repeat elite classes
Lab
wait what
the build is some randome shit but its worked out so well
I know level doesnt matter but ... so close. DK first 500
lvl matter the most on those breakpoints!!! huge
Yeah my DK was like 450 or so prior to the boss update because you dont get much exp at beans
imagine being lik elvl 478, eugh
My bubo just hit 530
And I run active exp cards and double crystal chance on bubo
I ran no active exp and double crystals when I was key farming on DK
Could probably hit 550 if I ran an exp setup
For sure
Golden nomwich?
holy shit i didnt even want a new nugget..
Off the screen doesn't count you lost it
finaly
Yeah you use those fo gold food stamp as well as hotdogs for gold peanuts and leaves for the chopping efficiency talent
Plus you get chopping and mining statues too
Does W4 kill ring count fornrift
Oh shit actually?
Thinking about getting it to speed up 5 million kill in rift ๐
Do Alchemy levels have any point, after I have maxed out every single brew bar?
The highest level does add some regen speed via the p2w upgrade, but not much
This one? Cos I don't think it gives me -liquid- regen speed, I checked earlier today when I levelled it
for most general stuff its just some levels for level up gift/bird god
Right, that's a good point atleast. Thanks mate! Does the liquid at level 120 even exist?
Ye
you can upgrade it, but no actual liquid yet
Damnit
What should I mostly likely buy from the world 5 shop
My bad I mean with gems
hmm nothing mandatory at W5. But divinity is nice, sprikler is nice, extra chest from sailing is nice
w5 is very chill with gems expenditure, nothing game changer
buy everything ๐
I will itโs just I wanted to what to buy fully first
there is nothing as good as w2-w3-w4 that are mandatory!
yin yang cogs are underrated
thats mostly because they were very bad until a few months ago, prob 2
Golden sprinkler to max
Alright ty
Divinity exp 3-4 times then 4 sprinkler
if uread there is nothing gme changer there, just more exp for divinity
sprinkler with chance of not spending charge
yeah mostly qol for w5 skills
and snail for loot u buy as u get more boats
Does this mean the position in the mainframe or console?
console
Tenk
Mainframe position is for souped tubes(which follows order of character creation
my qol is linked to my progression 
Also for green tube, the bubo doesnt need to be connected to lab aslong his head icon is at the far right
dang i didnt know that
funny how fired up skill on bb boosts my KPH by 25% on some maps, its insnae
KPH went from 5M to 6M on crawlers just from atk speed buff
suggests maybe your bb not using move speed potions?
unrelated, that skill boosts atk speed not move speed '.'
Move speed and attack speed is counted towards speed cap of afk
yeah dif multipliers
um I cant attack the troll
A class with high attack speed has lower threshold to reach speed cap with a lower move speed
But if you have high enough move speed, you dont need much attack speed to cap out
erm
say that to those maps!
everytime a map is boosted by fired up i get 25% kph for some reason
That is why i asked does your bb have low move speed
ofc not haha everyone always 350%
350 might just be for the visual gains
he is at 387% i can try boosting it higher to see if it changes
cause im going from 380 to 411 and its changing a bit
what is movespeed cap?
not 25% tho
i see.. So that talk about 350% speed cap is actualy poorly phrased?
350 is the visual cap
so basically active cap?
was wondering how that worked cuz my sb is close to 450 lol
dear lord my kph is even more juiced now
just tested and my bb aint getting any additional afk info kph with fired up
so many days lost!
even with purple flame
its map related
On crawlers
what is your move speed
so it seems its just that somehow you are missing something to cap your speed cap
393%
What weapon does it has
Checkout how cool, my KPH is this
The katana?
My bb doesnt speed cap by default on frogs tho
forget that dmg increase i misclicked heart
frogs tend the be the most demanding in terms of speed cap
Ok so i kinda found out that the problem was! Even tho im not getting 1M anymore, only 200k
i only had 3 skills on bar

so far as im aware, most things should speed cap even without fire up unless its frogs map
ok so here is the final veredict This is now without fired up and 445% move speed ( i have now all skills on bar and removing/adding another one isnt changing KPH, so its capped on th at
With fired up i go to that 6,445
let me see if i equip another speed potion something changes
492% movement speed
i tried with 475% but only reached 4335, dude that sinsane ๐ฎ
Ok, so i had atk speed chip there. I removed and found out by activating fire up that the KPH cap is 6775. BUT, even with all movement speed potions i stillcant reach it lol
@sick sentinel apparently 522% movement speed and last weapon is not enough to reach map speed cap lol
Ms is tied to respawn in the afk calculation, that's likely why it keeps changing.
well that's good to know. Trying to figure out how respawn worked was a huge pain and I couldn't figure out why
Attack speed factors in there as well, but it has a cap and most people likely hit it with the new weapons
Most people can't fully benefit from the op respawn Keychains, so ms is going to be the potion of choice
https://tonarone1.idleonefficiency.com/
would anyone take a quick look at and tell me where i am lacking? rn im jus farming for greenstacks throughout the worlds
lets gooooooo
i aimed for 125 but we took all the 200 lol
wtf is bro doing ๐
Things you cannot comprehend
alchemy, last bubble for agi you should be able to get some points by using the max reduction. you need to also unlock a bunch of vials. use money to increases chances. start pushing your MK tiers to 100m on every mob. your stamps are atrocious upgrade everything. need to run more dungeons. unlock all points for anvil shouldn't cost much money and you can unlock quite a few with materials as well.
What are the best jewels I should try to get mats for and when are they in rotation?
should I keep or throw these away
Toss
Money
Now someone answer my question 
poggers
Poppers
real
all of them ๐
Should I switch all my character I got in lab to divinity
im so pro
bless your soul
get your levels up 
w5 under 130 o.o
erm
oooh
can you guess which one pushed
first one fs
what was the point if youre not even gonna do divinity ๐
real
wdym
I am
just erm
should I delay vman? and stay on lab?
I have doot soo
yes do vman when you have all blurple skulls w1
you want me to do that with 1 char? ig?
you have death note right?
of course
blurple skulls w1 death note
i wouldnt do that yet, you need more damage
oh
need to work on alchemy
so I SHOULD delay vman
yes
fair enough xd
should I keep my mman on gmush so he can work towards the 12mil still though
skull
do it when you can get at least 300k kills an hour
dont worry about vman, he should literally only be used to booost your other characters' skills
he is stronk but he should not be priority
work on him after you work on your DK/ES/SB/bubo
Gotta active bubo for those alchemy gains
im behind in a lot of ways so I need to play catchup
I logged on for the first time in a year like 2 weeks ago
lol yeah that will do it
dont worry about rushing new content there is a natural progression
im working on things
and if you try to skip it, you will just have to come back to it
Work on getting all the alchemy bubbles unlocked, that will help.
I put it off for a while, and just started working on it better and the gains are skyrocketing. Hit 10b damage on multiple characters this weekend
i just play the game around alchemy
gear and everything else is an afterthought
monsters and skills are a means to get more alchemy levels
lmfao
I started working on gear too, trying to get troll on everyone for now. Then ill work on magma
bros going for that level 10k alch bubble
yeah im literally in dementia armour on all my characters
not upgrading til i can buy 10 sets of troll
tf invis vials
It did grind out the dreadlo bars yesterday so I dont have to worry about them
buy?
smith/buy same thing
I pushed armor more than anything else and Itโs starting to bite me
That might be painful haha
I unlocked the last island today, just takes an unreasonable amount of time
That's the second to last island I think
Idleon>AlchemyOn
12 or 13 not suee
aight thanks for looking
Sure
hope its 12 cuz thats next for me ๐
Don't hold your breath on the rare notes, I still haven't gotten a single one
It
is very frustrating ;p
lmfao i forgot/ cant handdle it how do i reset post office ?
if i dont get it in this 45 vials i quit
Honestly, chances are low
gem shop
It took me a bit, but they eventually start rolling in
I meant order streak
dont say that to me 
Use pen on the shield
chances are low bro
For the sake of your poor wrists, ignore this advice ! 8)
incomplete order > pen on shield > wait for reset

stop
I cant even get past 3200 ๐ฆ
I used 800 pens this weekend, it sucks
2 max boxes ๐
thats what i did yesterday but it didn't work lol
what are my odds here
imagine using pens, that's what the atom is for 
Atom doesn't use them fast enough
i do 200 pens daily kek, long way from filling up the boxes though
but those gaming and sailing boxes are sick
ill see your challenge, give me a few minutes
I think I'm about 1k boxes away from getting everything but myriad done
hmmm what can atoms do for me here?
how did you resety
see you in an hour 
One of the atoms passively converts pens into boxes, once a day. The number is very very low though
you use a pen on the shield and then use a pen on the order to "open" the order, then dont complete it so it resets
oh it takes two huh ok ty
the order just needs to be incomplete with no shield by reset
gotcha wait till reset then ty
i was so close... look at all this bread i got
the scrafs, how many keys and your drop rate to obtain those ?
uh, lets see i have 204 gems, i did 100 runs on normal and apparently 104 on chaotic
with this guy
Will this revert back to 2mill each or just my v man kills after speedrun?
What armour do you have?
void with a grandma hat
think ill make the guy a beanie cuz thatll mean hes cool
huh, i had apparently stored keys at some point, i have 9 more shots for the 10th scarf
Woot! got it
there is any tools for track guild members GP?
Oh dangit, did i leave the instance to quick, i mmissing one now
nope were good ๐
yay
making progress!
ooooof. . . . what to do
erm
Assistance on cooking for all my characters plz? I feel I use everything I have and only get less than 2k xp
dont level cooking?
I want the rift bonuses
i just used the balloons i had, when i have more ill use them to
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I should of saved the fucken red spheres instead of using then on wood cutting
Wood cutting was so easy
Fml
you used htem on... woodcutting
why
lol like the single easiest sit and collect skill in the game
vman is the only one that resets, itll always go to 2
For the bonus
bruh
Ok thanks
bros impatient
No I was just going in order
I hit cooking and fuck it's slow
If only I knew before hand
it would have been more efficient to just use a 1 hour candy at the last log in W4
Started at wood cutting for the rift bonuses and stuck on cooking bahahaha
use all your balloons
although I don't think it's worth it to go past 30-40 on cooking for now
it's a painful leveling process
Man I'm trying to get to 15 on all
wish I could see cooking leaderboard lol
Is there a chievement or star or something that requires all to have 15 cooking ? I can't recall atm
How long did it take yall to get the 5M kills in rift to get eldritch
I'm still on it I get 160 k kills an hour
day and half or so
Jesus how much damage do you do
Damn howre you getting 160k kills an hour? My BB is getting only 50k on the previous 5M kills
Possibly not obvious, but those rifts are shared credit, so you can split it among as many characters as you want
Yeah once I get my others guys off cooking I'm place them on rift to help
Yea I got 5 peeps on it rn, total of 100k kph?
Still slow going though ๐
Enjoy the grind bro
The last time I hated the grind was bloodbones
Says the guy who can't get 15 cooking on all characters
lets say my cooking is suffering too
Balloons
Easy
if I didn't have to click and hold I would do it
Yea that part does suck
Damn right !
I once managed to gather the courage to use a bunch of them.
My arm still hurts.
should i be focusing my boats on earlier islands to level up my ships?
You mean to farm for materials ?
Hard to say without ship stats (but even then I couldnโt help much).
As far as I can tell, as long as you cap speed on the islands you want, meh.
With that said I have tried for an eldritch artifact for well over two months now, with no luck, so take what I say with a bucket of salt.
i dont have eldritch unlocked and i got most ancient/artifacts now except for later islands
highest boat speed is 6m~ and a lot at 1-3m
just have my ships focused on remaining ancients but they are not big ones
finally set my vman up to start farming some cards ๐
how does king doot work, do things stack?
need so many resource cards it's digusting
yes lots of stacks
Any recommended stacks?
i feel so called out right now
well u just need to put tiger on one character, and doot handles the rest
u aint even close to me
im at like 4.1k account lvl and im finally going to start this
just want to increase my samples up u know
ok, maybe not quite as bad.. but i intentionally farmed up the furnaces, and the copper was from a 2 year afk stint ๐
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what unlocks the eldrich or third teir artifacts in sailing
hopefully in this month i'll have most of these at 4star
ok thanks @lapis mesa
im finally sending my Vman skilling, so hes on card duty
lvl 31
haha yeah i just finished the 10m worms quest on my vman... now he is free for the grind
really got to get his lvl above everyone else too
@lapis mesa stuck on lv 28
mines only at 151, he got to 150 for the vman quest then started skilling, then i had a wild hair to go use up all my boss keys to get blankies
nice! my rng is so bad i haven't gotten a single blanky yet ๐ฆ
I just unlocked my 6th pet slot in arena, died out around wave 135
around what pet power should I have to finish pet arena 200?
i just used about 600 keys and got all 10 of mine
15k average should be good enough
but it's more about team comp
cool, thanks, I plan to try the looter team in the guide sheet
:/ that exp gain
10k-15k power on average should be able to clear it
thanks, patiently waiting for tomorrow to try it. gonna take forever though, 135 already took so long 
got my first wing drop
so I just got to W5 and was lucky to pull the Moai Bust artifact. I read the effect and I think it means I no longer need that Lab node that shares shrines over a world if this thing shares across all 5 worlds, but wanted to check and make sure
The bonuses are not redundant.
set up a macro to click hold let go for you haha
the Lab node is still useful for leveling shrines, but yes you can get shrines effects all the time without that node
https://i.imgur.com/JNjhumt.png
Been sitting here for about 8 minutes now, This was a mistake
ya I realize now why I see shrines in W4 town in all the videos now. Lab and cooking folks live there, so free shrine xp and applies to the entire game. thats such a huge buff
Your hit of ~20b if you divide the health from the boss 1000T/20B = 50000 times you have to hit him
if you have doot, it ended that meta lol
ya, looking through the diety bonuses I can see why doot is so op
not that lucky for me tho, not yet
maybe in 2 years
that 20b is the yellow lightning attack, does lots more than my other hits. so lets call it 1 million hits
That was my point exactly
sounds like a waste of 70 keys
yea that fight will take about 6 hours
i REFUSE to waste them
yeeeeaaahh
i will afk here til hes dead
you will get 70 more keys (much more than 70 key most likely) in the time it would take to kill him
how many keys do you get an hour?
are you able to kill wurms with dk
DK not up to worms map yet
hes on the mining hat guys
my dmg has been stagnant for months, below 1B
Maybe you should have waited on this one
yeah fair call i think i will abandon this. 70keys down the shitter
dont worry that is only 70 keys out of thousands you will farm some time because that drop isnt going to be easy
Also you dont want to get the drop until you have the tired mole quests on the last stage
Could be worse, if you press up arrow to climb the rope after entering kattlekruk room it will instead walk out the portal. Done that one a few times now
Is this worth using when playing actively for deathnote count?
Normally no because at -%50 you will be going down a tier of multikill
Rarely
Oh oof
Only worth if you have no multikill but would stay high enough to not lose total kills
it is good in rift
I think it isnt multiplicative with lab/divinity 2x deathnote kills. Correct me if I am wrong
But isn't damage usually the biggest problem for advancing in rift?
I always reach more kills/h with this prayer. Cause no miltikill
Yeah for afk, cause the attack talent multipliers up to kill cap
Didn't even think about the 5mil stages
there is any tools for track guild members GP?
how can i do that these?
Edit: brainfart. Sorry for pinging
just make a recipe with no spices
ty
If I use the divinity link that lets me connect to the divinity from the lab, do I only get divinity and lab exp if I am in the lab or at the altar?
If you're in lab, you get both exp.
If you're in altar, you only get div exp of course
If u use goat and u r in lab u get both
I see, tq
well yes but for non-doot people
np ๐ so it is not multiplicative?
Oh the kills/h is multiplicative. I got exactly double the kills when putting the div 2x on, with both prayer setups, and slightly less kills on both setups when putting the prayer on (lost a multikill tier both times),
but I was somehow twisting the damage penalty with kill count in my conclusion or something. Haven't had my morning cup of coffee yet so wasn't sure what I did wrong so I just removed the post haha ':D I had to shift my lab slaves around a lot to get that divinity working for the test and it was definitely too early for this kind of brain work
Well, almost anything is multiplicative in a game like this, but they're in a different multi group (unless I made another mistake) so the kill count bonus applies fully. Had lab 2x bonus active the whole time so if it wasn't another full multi (it's own group) the other bonuses would've been diminished
No idea what multigroup that damage penalty belongs to, if any, tho. Is it additive with anything else?
Is there a bonus that allows you to turn pens into post office boxes? I think I saw that somewhere but can't find it again
Atoms
Although i wouldnt say its really anything
The rate at which it converts will take forever to complete PO
oh, so it's not like instant
No, its X a day
I guess the sailing bonuses are better then, +x% chance to get double
so it goes up to 30 a day although if you have all those upgrades in atom im sure PO isnt a problem so prob like around 10 a day which is nothing
yeah, i don't even got atoms unlocked, I guess once you're that far in, you're close to the end anyway
Pretty much, just got to click a lot in PO
Whatโs the over/under that the islands will fix fishing exp rates?
lol
Someone has been lazy
yeah my second sb heh still has lvl 100 catching talents ๐
3-10x all my prints today feels good
Yea mine is about the same, i feel its just not as important as getting your choppin and mining samples obviously those are the atoms
yea thats where i am at, if i remember
i feel like its bi-hourly from me not remembering to click
What stamps are generally good to use the gilded stamps on?
multi tool if you have it
i like using on crystallin or glass shard stamp
yay

crystallin is good as well
or anything with many levels per material upgrade for the masteries
i cant even upgrade multi tool even with a gilded stamp 
shit i didnt use royal sampler ๐ im not redoing my prints tho
You dont have it active on everyone?
i keep forgetting to turn it on for my bm
go resample...
I have multi tool, but I'm bottleneck more on gold there. Crystallin looks good. I have my DK at 1 in 61 crystals. Thanks all!
turn it on so you never have to remember to turn it on again
no way im resampling ill do it next week ๐
but yeah good point ill turn it on rn
yea at least put it on
sampling's that one weekly for me i hate doing because i always forget something at the end of my sample run and then ill have to redo all my samples
tbf it is a bm
ya the sample was gonna be shit anyways
those samples are for the most part useless
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Must be always active, never turn it off. Easy
did a thing
nice
So i got 1 wing out of 47 nm, which is only 1/1000 chance ... kinda makes me think im nevery getting cruk wings
i got 3 neck in 8 runs somehow the other day, so far only ones i have with 1 obol
the good thing right now is that only 2 of my chars can even use the trophy
lvl wise
same
only 3 can wear the neck tho as well i need to get them up
DR?
14-15x depending on char
I can get a bit over 14 so yea, gonna be rough
make sure to put midas on unlike me!
i need to work on plunderous mobs
think i did half of my nm kills without midas on cause i forgot
oof
ugh when i'm trying to go through a bunch of time candy or something, the "afk" window moves around all the time so i can't just get a clicking groove, anyone else notice that
why would that afk window move around? grr
Size of the window depends on the amount of separate items that drop
Need to teach your little brother to click in multiple spots
I guess ill teach my cat
press space to claim offline gains
ty ty ty
qhait what
i need to try that
oh im stupid i thoughr you meant all gains going into inventory instead the ground
how the hell do people make it past pet arena 120+ without crashing?
Thats not even the bad part from what i remember, are you on PC?
Less things going on in the background can help so stop cooking and take pets out of the fenceyard while you do a run. Less animations the better ... id also go to low pop server to see if that helps
done all of that ๐ข even forced GPU and gone down to 20fps
Turn off auto for a bit helps alot
gotcha
Npnp
is it worth it to put traps on vman to powerlevel all trapping for better bonus on vman critter and soul talent?
currently all my chars can use royal trap
or does it scale poorly so its not worth it
You would do Vman but not for his vman talent but for Transfusion
yea I'm planning to utilise transfusion to get a lot of exp
full exp on vman, maybe like 1-2 exp traps placed by vman on other classes
was wondering how well does the skill scale based on trapping level
like that cooking talent goes bonker after enough meal levels for example
Its not like that skill but its still good for getting more critters
I was under the understanding that while the talent applied to everyone, it only scaled off of the VMan's Trapping + Worship level combo.
its trapping/worship level of vman, so other characters doesnt need that much trap levels
Just enough levels to wear future traps
ah only vman
glad I asked , was going to put all exp traps thinking it applies to total level haha
this seemed like the best approach, until royal trap
Guess I gotta pump those worship up too
sounds like a good plan, i need to sort out my trapping too. it matters who places the trap?
Should be placed with BM afaik
And have the right cards equipped
so place all traps using BM, and just let them collect naturally using the 24hour thing?
or use eagle eye to collect more often, its more efficient generally speaking
it uses the stats of the person placing it even when i place a trap on for example my SB using my BM to place it?
ah okay, assuming i dont care about the lost 4 hours, is it the same?
Yep
lol, is it straight up bugged? i dont see why that would be intended. good to know, ill redo all on my BM
I think with rift bonus the BM would get all the xp (if you place on bm)
So BM ends up best if you want critters, but vman + transfusion is best for exp
Itโs definitely intended, patch notes say so
Whereas bm eagle eye gives the exp to whomever the trap belongs to
The char who has the trap assigned gets all the exp regardless
huh, i should maybe start with this reading stuff people keep talking about, sounds useful
is this one really good anyone who has it?
If I use my vman to place traps on my bubo say, the bubo gets the exp using the vmanโs stats
ah no, thats not what im asking. i mean the bonus critters etc when placing the trap
sorry no one has it
id imagine it would be good though
please let us know
thanks! so yeah definitly intent, ill redo on my BM. thanks again
given the relativly better odds on hippo is worth it though
Exp/critters using the stats of whoever placed it is an intentional QoL feature
For what it's worth, I would have your Maestro place his own traps and focus on EXP.
only one that can actually be skipped is the eyeball that helps with shiny pets imo
It's intended, from patch notes: #patch-notes๐ message
good point, thanks
i hope daftong says something cool
ok. I try today to catch and redirect my game... so i got a lot questions... (and i don't use IC). So...
- I have sheep pet, does that mean i don't need to have any active big bubbles (cause they dont give any extra bonus).
- I need to boosts my Printing powers... currently at 7mil logs at 110 wood cutting skill.
- Need to boosts dmg. all my characters are +400lvl and since W5 all of them been mostly afking crawlers. (i play mostly once in day) DMG is from 300mil to 2bil (from lowest to highest between all 10 characters)...
- biggest downsides i have is "spice production (i have about 2-3mil on all. (miasma, leaf, burger and whale.)
- i ask later.
1 yes,
2 atom the first 3 bubbles on wizard and warrior
3. someone smarter can answer this
4. spics is just kinda slow, cooking mostly comes from other sources.
5 ok
Damage is just...more alchemy
- Alchemy
- Correct
- Talent book the appropriate skills (Logs on Logs, Tool eff), and alchemy are your friend.
- Time, sorry. Alchemy is eally the answer lol.
- You have 2-3m spices???
When in doubt alchemy it is
for spice, try to fit in converters and alchemic as much as possible
all lanes should have converter, and lanes up to coarse mountains do better with alchemics + converter as forage speed basically hits a diminishing wall
i mean this is slow slow slow right? like super slow?
This is fairly good, just replace the mono and looter for converter
^
i only want +30k ones... so no luck yet.
alchemics basically makes it 1.5x more yield, and converter makes like 2x more yield
Literally a converter with 1 power gives you more spices
looter to get next tier spices isnt really a viable thing
darn i wish i could see base stats of captains? is the calculator or something... dont really know at this point when all 12lvl have +300%.... (and yes it's bad but those are double so 600%...)
ikr. been there.
those are all exp traps

thought ill give it a day and see how many levels i can get haha
damn 12m
greenstacking critters
oh... you gonna be past my 80lvl like... wroooomh
Greenstacking shinies sounds like a good plan right
I haven't yet kekw
oh right i totally forgot prayers... actually i mean gods...
Ok. Got Salt Lick, Merits and eldritch fury artifact. Is there anything else I can take that raises the max book lvl?
iam at 160max level without relic... so dunno
relic was 75 at gold?
25 regular
50 ancient
75 eldritch
oh.
I think 270 is the top rn then?
Excluding +lvl stuff obv
With arctis and ES family passive and symbols you can easily go over 300
300+/270
Excluding specific skills
Considering only book lvl I'm at 235, What am I missing then? +10 for merits, +5 for achievement, +75 for fury, +20 from salt lick, +20 from gem shop. How are you at 270?
someone of my character had one of those basic attibute skill at +500 bruh my bubo has only 375....
Gem shop is minimum level
Not Max
And Im not sure I must be missing a passive somewhere
Cuz I remember having max level 195
My ES has 285 total talent level (shown) (without the slug bonus) and he is lvl 453
Oh.. ok. Then you are considering total level. I just wanted to check max book level.
not meant to be rude... but you missing this????
No he said he got merit
oh you got them
There isnt anything extra he is missing +10 from atom collider
235 + 10 from collider = 245 max talent level
Ok. Thnks.
Yea i just checked it's atom collider
did get this one tho? rift or what?270 with slug
Rift slug increases the limit to 270 but it's a gamble
it doesnt increase limit, its only extra lvls. Limit still 245
i didnt do rfit past first two stones... worth it?
I wanted to say that
Rift is absolutely worth it
The bonuses are huge
The further you can go the better but it slows down quick with the HP scaling
I knew there was smth about that xd
only one that isnt actualy useful is vaccum for critters, everything else is good in its own time
its pointless cuz i have to log in for it to activate
oooh yea... it was do it with multiple characters... that why... i havent done even W4 constellar. (stars)
Infinite Star signs are great for one
its just a useless thing to exist. Doesnt even give quality of life since u still have to log in dfaily, and u could just click on trapping drone
Masteries are a decent bonus
mastery is HUGE
yeah its good once u cant afford the best stamp upgradeswithout it
Skulls are skulls, no downside there
Huge dmg if you can get the skulls reliably
Not me lul
Only skull I have is gmush
Haven't reached ruby cards yet but I imagine that's also a general plus to have
I have gmush and tremor wurms skull lol
tempted to go for the 50%.
or should i hit the 5 in hopes i roll a 100% for right side?
what u guys think?
my tremor wurm deathnote is bigger than my lifetime gmush lol;. Gmush 3b, wurms 4b
only u can answer my friend kkkkkkkk
Is there a particular reason to kill worms that much or Is it just cuz xp
i was so unlucky with gods past the initial 3 that i wouldnt be crazy to go 50%
Exp, money, alchemy gains, and now also keys
the gamba tho^^
Down to 65 slab items left. Wooo
ye
hahaha yeah everything is very good for something. ONly 1st critter is awful (cuz its locked in a 24h timer from daily claim.
there should be a way to upgrade it so u can claim in time of whatever trap u choose or something - automaticaly
I can't even remember if there was anything after ruby cards
Rubt is worth. U should do it if u can
But lava skulls reee
Wave 50 is max so you can't reach 51 yet for the next unlock
I don't even mind the afk rifts
i dont remember being lava skull there
Oh
are u stuck at a lava skull thing? ';'
Oh dear that means I have a different thing to unlock yet
What is it
I thought ruby cards was my next unlock xd
41 is construction mastery 46 ruby cards
I see
this bonuses
Finally made me level up my shrines lol
Well my highest oh wow that is really good
that made me level all my construction besides only 1st row lol
yeah. i'd do it if i were u, its definetly worth it
better than ruby cards overall
Go for 7 or stop at 6?
i stopped at 5 ๐ฎ
I have doot
irrelevant
Well I guess I'll have to do it at some point anyway do I'll do it once I come back from Japan
^
Breeding claims from Omni affect it
I have not played 215 days
it doesnt affect
Ah I am dumb 
nice 600 grind time ๐
if omniproc worked there i'd be lvl 1000
Itโs super small for now 
Was 180 yesterday though
I'll raise you 200
So we working on it
So I stop at 6
27 of the same shiny there
so 1 day = 27 days plus extra level up speed, which can get to 2x. (ormore
Wow that would probably level things up fast
Reminds me of idle skilling pet lab thing that snowballed so much
true kkkkkkkk its the same
be lazy like me!
I should go rotate my pets, I've sat the same ones in there for like a month lol
1 of each important bonus and filling the excess with speed
Honestly the biggest hurdle in pets that I have rn is getting enough dead dna
Need more eggs I guess
Indeed. its a real struggle
I am letting my eggs sit for fancy colors

But then again that sounds like a lot of effort
im done replacing all my burgers on spices for power 85kplus ones. nothing else to do that. Its close to my max power
Wish I could reset the Colo with one click instead of going out and in
would be nice
good think about colo4 is that u can do 3 runs with 1 DK orb if its high lvl enough
Lol not enough duration on mine xd

I also still have to do more dumgeons ughhh
Need more happy hours
Anyway I'm not spamming this channel anymore
I know what I must do when I return now
Everything basically
Classic


Does Nobisect(2x deathnote kills) god work for afk kills?
Wait a second! The Orb stays between Colo runs? I always waited like a minute for it to reset
nobisect doubles kills as a kill per kill type of kills, so yea it increases afk kills, but that increased kill doesnt not contribute to mob drops/samples
it does kkkkkkkkkkk
One day I'll get the arcade stamps ๐ฆ
At max orb u can run W3 colloseum 2 times with 1 orb
W4 3 times (maybe 4) with 1 orb
W2 tricky but u can get 2 if everything goes perfect
for how long have u been trying sir
I feel like since I started hahaha
I wasted so much time waiting for the Cooldown 
Tbh I've only maxed out one of the traits from the gold ball store so not like. INSANE.
But long enough?
1 year?
Eh probably 2.
dear lord and how many balls do u get per day? 48?
Haven't always been the most efficient players lol
hahah
Yeah 48
sad. i got 1 stamp yestrday but it was the worst one
Time?
playtime? 5 months now
where do icheck that
I meant.
Teh stamp.
It increases the amount of time for collecting max?
Yeah, i'd rather either of the other two stamps lol. But still, at least nice for some levels?
indeed. i got it up to 55
can get to 65 probably byut i didnt have logs at the time i was upgrading kkkkkk
If I equip an infinite star sign, do I get double its bonus?
Or is it still just a single bonus
I see conflicting things and that I need a lab chip or something?
you dont get a bonus afaik, I think you would get the negative though
u dont get the negative o.o
ah I thought you did when you equip them anyway
no haha
Equipping only give u double bonus if u have chip
ty
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Is it worth going all Omniphau if you want to get all Eldritch version of Artifacts? I feel like I've hit a wall with the low chance to get one
9 omniphau + 1 purmep is what i used for a long time and it was insane
best setup u can do
Make sure your active ES is not linked on altar to omniphau, that way u can just swap on talent if u are going afk
sou run bear+harieph while active and swap bear to omniphau on afk
Even BB or SB, its not worth having them linked at nobisect/snake
Perfect I'm gonna try that!
Best way to do this is main link bunny god, and polytheism bear on battle preset, and omni on the other preset
I havent got the "6 char lab" setup just yet, so i only have 5 omnis and 5 bears
Sounds good
I'm glad lava is posting again
Predictions how many purchases lava will add with island exploration?
I bet it will just be a limited shop
it doesnt matter for me, because the game wont let me buy anything lul
3 purple gem purchases (purple gems are needed due to insecurities found in the blue and green gem systems)
well... one purple gem would cost 500 blue gems, 100 green gems and 2,69$
make it 101 green gems and then only sell green gems in multiples of 100 for extra lulz
This guy Designs predatory monetization methods for a living i see
You working for EA ?
Or Activision ?
Why not both?
Electronic Artivision
why doesnt my bubo his skill cranium cooking automaticly? its on the bar.
if you have other talents that blocks the usage maybe like teleport and potion throw
why would that block it?
Also the order on the bar matters as if you tenteyecle and reduce cooldown alot, he may never reach using talents at the end of the skill bar
Its the first one at the bar
Game tries to use potion throw, but cant since its a manual skill so the skill usage stops there
Teleport has a 0 cool down so game can never use other skills placed after teleport
And say if the first 4 talents recovers the cooldown before reaching the fifth talent, it may never use cranium
still handy to know this stuff
So you would want to place like:
cranium, raise dead, aura, fart
And you also want to NOT place other skills that may bother with the skill prority
Other classes its not much an issue as the cooldown is long enough to make a full cycle
Bubo is a consideration as it effectively has lots of 0 second cooldown skills which interfere with the skill usage priority
oak prints way more than copper
guys, how can i increase the artifact chance?
Of dootless mages, ES tends print a bit more than bubo due to use of 2nd god. For copper bb and DK are very close but DK gets slight more HP for the efficiency bonus
Dootless?
without doot
King doot?
Doot pet
Ohhh
Since doot effects printing pretty hard
Forgot bout that thing
With doot, bubo and ES sampling power is pretty much the same
Think Im better off converting my 2nd Bubo to ES, rather than hope on getting Doot on a 25% a year chance ;-;
When snapshotting I put on the snapshot gear quick ref alch then swap gear back?
anyones name in idleon start with a P
gemshop, not quick ref alch
Oh I saw smth saying to quick ref alch
Thx
No for snapshot your quick ref alch
Card drop snapshot is refresh map woth gemshop or reenter map
anyones name in idleon start with a P i need for quest to get a stamp
Ic
oh theres different kidns of snapshotting?



