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[candid latch]

Is this a bug

[ancient quail]

rift 11 and dmg with droprate preset is 28mil

the mobs at rift 11 are just shy of 17mil health

[mystic mountain]

i'm assuming your sailing level is 12?

[lavish quiver]

I think you will be fine cause its more of clearing the map with meteor, unless your dk 1 shot and you can have 2 statues up at a time that may fare better

[candid latch]

Nope, lvl 16

[mystic mountain]

wait you can have more than 1 statue

[ancient quail]

how do you get 2 statues up?

higher skill level?

[lavish quiver]

Good cooldown high skill

mana PO box cooldown, there is a small moment where i can have 3 up

[zealous niche]

The vman’s enhancement of the statue helps a lot

[lavish quiver]

and that

[errant gyro]

hey guys for the voidwalker quest to kill 1m+ mob in w1/2/3 should i be doing it on my ES active or SB?

[ancient quail]

my max talent lvl isn't high enough

[mystic mountain]

he just sent you to the shadow realm then 💀

[candid latch]

The captain walking around is 1 I literally just bought, as you can see my other slot there is unlocked but there is no option (been this way since I unlocked it)

[ancient quail]

ah it only shows the next day

[candid latch]

I had it unlocked 2 days now

[ancient quail]

the first day you unlock the slot, on day reset you get 2 options

strange, worked for me like that

[candid latch]

Maybe a bug on iOS then?

[ancient quail]

possibly

[candid latch]

I’ll observe for another day or so and maybe check on web/steam version

[mystic mountain]

too bad it's locked behind level 225

[opaque sun]

when you switch devices. Some of the timer resets to prevent trying to cheese stuff

[mystic mountain]

does ES or DK have an advantage when it comes to monster card farming? i'm pretty sure it's ES right?

[opaque sun]

Both ES and DK has advantage. ES’s wormhole tends to be stronger than DK’s orb on most mob (maybe except for wurms)

[mystic mountain]

thanks i'll put some more effort into my ES

[dapper prism]

Neither, you do it on BB for chow/zow

[hollow wasp]

i rly want that void staff for my ES but the 5000 frigid souls are so annoying to get, i get 35 per whorship

[dapper prism]

yeh just too low in your TD to bother with that

[wary girder]

alright so i've had all my chars sitting on div for about 2 weeks now and just unlocked goat what's the general best set up for my chars gods now?

my last 6 chars on goat in lab while my main 4 are pushing my goals?

[dapper prism]

Probably continue to stay on Focus stance* since I doubt your XP multipliers will be high enough to properly get to 40 or 60 in time.
Still want Tiger 😄

[wary girder]

im on vitalic atm on all my chars, some are 40 to use tranqi

[dapper prism]

The ones outside can use TranQi for passive XP.
What's your XP/h on one of your lab alts on any stance like vitalic?

[wary girder]

div exp/h?

sec ill check

[dapper prism]

yeh and pts/h on vitalic

[dapper prism]

Woulda been easier if u just screenshotted afk info on div altar

[wary girder]

kk 1 sec lol

[dapper prism]

29 👀

[wary girder]

idk how to inc div exp multi

[dapper prism]

That screen should have the total value all included afaik

at least i thought so xD

Because at that XP rate it would take you 175.5 hours to level 40 (without xp double claims)

[wary girder]

how do I increase div exp? im pretty sure ive been on top of everything

i got i think 2 of the exp for div from the shop

[dapper prism]

xp multi is also based on stance and includes that.

Like, if you're on Focus 1xp it could show 100x, but then switch to vitalic 7xp it would change to 700x etc

Along with all the other multipliers though

passive card, div gods, cooking food, stamp, vial, gem shop, think a bubble.

[dreamy merlin]

im so close

[dapper prism]

Just remember to not login at 1min 60 seconds. Because for some reason that's a thing

[dreamy merlin]

not like i was going to anyways,still 2 more lvls

it is weird how that works tho

[dapper prism]

Just remember that in most cases you'd probably get Omni and Tiger before even reaching level 60 div anyways. Even if focusing on XP, so you may as well focus points with Focus stance to get double the points and waste less time. Then go xp once you have them. (tranqi on alts outside of lab)

[dapper prism]

Ah, not doing active for crystal xp + active xp cards?

[dreamy merlin]

they so weak it feels slower

and they would die to a crystal

[dapper prism]

oh they being the mman

[dreamy merlin]

i want lustre gloves but they cost stupid thingymabobs

[dapper prism]

gloves won't make a huge difference

most stuff will all be from bubbles

[dreamy merlin]

im aware,but its better than banana hands

slightly

[feral hemlock]

For rift 44+ where i need 60 portal kills does midas give hp to these mobs? Struggling with a couple more wormhole kills

[hollow wasp]

ye problems is its super hard

[dapper prism]

No clue but most likely?
Else go to the bottom left island, down the rope, and spawn the wormhole mobs there, tiny island, private, easier to nuke them

Either way why would ES have midas on? Unless grinding out a boss that seems like a pretty bad choice

[feral hemlock]

Yup where grinding kruk

[steady token]

finally getone minigame done

[pale slate]

I had problems reaching 30 score

[steady token]

the trick is avoid all dangerous hoop like golden/lava/connected by spamming clicks to stay at top

[pale slate]

So you do only yellow green?

[steady token]

yes

[pale slate]

How long did one minigame lasted?

[steady token]

i'm not sure, maybe minutes

[pale slate]

Ahh then it is not that bad, had to try it that way. But still need the lava ring achievement. Sometimes i fly thru but it doesn't count and i don't get knocked either

[steady token]

lava ring is hard, I completely avoid it after get that achievement

[dapper prism]

I was so certain that has happened to me, nice to see someone else mention it

[lavish quiver]

Same i figured it was bugged so i have avoided trying to get it again

[mystic mountain]

is there any advice for card farming resources? is it done active or afk?

[frigid acorn]

monster card act , resource card candies

just fill with DR and cDR

[mystic mountain]

ahh makes sense now

ty

[steady token]

max skill speed and afk gain too

[mystic mountain]

does skill eff matter?

[zinc torrent]

any opinions on who gets kruk armour? I only do chest and legs for most chars

[mystic mountain]

DK/ES/Vman i believe right?

meaning helmet and boots i believe

[zinc torrent]

my dk is full, ES only has helmet and shoes for max dmg and my vman is full magma for better skilling

[steady token]

no, as long as you reach 100% eff

[zinc torrent]

I want a second set for vman but im not farming gold twine again

[dapper prism]

I only made one for SB, should make another for BB superchowing the last 6-7 areas.
Thing is, i'm not bothered moving around gear for samples again, so i would only do it if i can make another magma set as a backup xD

Speaking of chest/legs.

Helm/Feet on DK+ES

[blazing torrent]

hi, has the gaming been nerfed recently? I get half of what I had before...

[mystic mountain]

did your DK have your fighting preset on when you claimed your plants?

[hollow wasp]

someone do my frigid soul TD pls xd

[gray schooner]

i unlocked T6 plants recently. should i try to get those asap, or just wait until i get them eventually through luck

[unkempt quest]

you probably wont get them through luck. you could just leave gaming for ages with the rock turned on until you get t6 though

[opaque sun]

Delaying your bit (harvests) for t6 plants is not worth it

[gray schooner]

ill try that then and just keep some space for chems and cacti.
how big is the bonus anyway from discovering a new plant for the log book?

[opaque sun]

Each tier is like 200 times more unlikely to appear compared to previous tier. The log book bonus is nice, but you would get more bit multi/speed by continuing to upgrade through the bits you get from harvesting

[gray schooner]

i could just keep a few t5 plants and hope for t6 while still harvesting like 80%

[opaque sun]

i got my tier 6 for doing normal harvests

Id rather utilize the qol of “harvest all”

[ocean fox]

Is the droprate for hp prayer ever worth for ES

[opaque sun]

Only time it was worth to aim for t6 plants was when your snail reset to 0 and there was a downtime to get back to your previous bit multiplier

Midas? Yes its worth it

[gray schooner]

snail is kinda one of the reasons why i want to push t6. because i havent unlocked snail yet. and it might get me a bit closer to that

[opaque sun]

Later on you will have waaaaaaay enough damage where mob hp increasing doesnt matter

[ocean fox]

I heard the increase in droprate from being able to kill more wormhole mobs is better than midas, but good to know Ill go attach it

[opaque sun]

For ES, midas usually net loss tho

[ocean fox]

Oh

[opaque sun]

i thought your original post meant as in general

[glass meadow]

Once you get lvl 75 lab on all players and 1k total level, would grinding some levels for bubo damage be worth or is the bonus too small for the time required at that point?

[opaque sun]

For ES, the hp penalty outweighs the dr

[ocean fox]

Ahh ok good to know I should have clarified at first. Ty

[opaque sun]

Lab levels for wp isnt that great

[glass meadow]

alright good, then I'm almost done with lab

[opaque sun]

Its worth getting everyone to lab 100+ for masteries tho

[glass meadow]

you mean to get the 1k total level or is the a reason for each character to have over 100?

[sharp wind]

Eh so for ES better not to use midas?

[opaque sun]

Masteries as in 1000 in total

[gray schooner]

nope

[glass meadow]

ah yeah thanks, should get that before everyone gets 100 but that was my goal at least.

[opaque sun]

The HP gain basically loses out peak wormhole kills

[sharp wind]

Eh i mean if i want to get rare items such as hampter? Better not use midas?

[glacial venture]

nope

[sharp wind]

Ahh

[glacial venture]

not on ES

[sharp wind]

Been farming for days and i put my midas on

[opaque sun]

say you would reach 150 kills not using midas, by using midas your wormhole only reaches like 140, which loses out on 10 kills with the added dr bonus of 141-150 wormhole

The missed 10 kills at peak wormhole is a bigger loss of effective dr than what midas offers in general

[worldly dune]

if anybody could take a look and tell me what should i do next cause i am a little stuck https://bobisthenew.idleonefficiency.com/

[ocean fox]

Possibly very dumb quesiton, does drop rate affect normal drops too? like spore caps?

[opaque sun]

Yes it does

It just doesnt affect mob drop sampling

“What should i do next” the answer is always alchemy

[worldly dune]

the progress is slow there..

[ocean fox]

Agreed, work on main stat bubble if nothing else

[gray schooner]

i'd start by collecting your boss keys. and unlocking the key gains on the remaining chars

[glacial venture]

first...get your keys

[ocean fox]

I would also priotize getting all your prints as high as possible by maxing tools at the very least

[glacial venture]

get your tent to 200+

and then bubo more

[worldly dune]

what is a tent

[glacial venture]

that helps a lot with alchemy

tentecleye...or how its spelled^^

[worldly dune]

ow

the spell

[ocean fox]

Are you stuck on rift rn? I would unlock eldritch artifacts considering u seem to have maxed a lot of ur ships

[worldly dune]

im stuck

thats why i wanted to get more dmg

i have 3/4 to kill a regenerating monster

[ocean fox]

Whats your max damage and which char?

[worldly dune]

186m on BB

and 155 on SB

the others are for skilling or already been used

[ocean fox]

Personally the gameplan I would do is to tent farm with bubo to unlock the last few bubbles(high priority) and work on skilling with the rest to work on better tools for better prints for the alchemy that you will eventually need to print for

With your current progress in sailing, progressing your alchemy more should explode your damage, I don't have nearly as much sailing unlocked as you but onice I reached the last bubbles of alchemy and startred improving my damage increased a lot

[worldly dune]

ow thanks for the tips

[ocean fox]

Do you know where to locate a tent farming guide?

[worldly dune]

no

[glacial venture]

before you work on skilling on other chars...work on vman first

to make sure he is the highest one

ES and Bubo are perfect pairing for alchemy...bubo farms water for bubbles and ES farms mob drops for bubbles

[ocean fox]

Let me see if I can find one but basic gamplan is just level 200 tenteycle(absolutely required I made the mistake of trying to do it before), and damaging skills, there is an optimal order which I think is raise the dead, cranium cooking, auspicous aura, poison canisters, a map like flombeige is probably best for you with your damage
If you cnat check often you should use the lab bonus that gives x5 liquid otherwise just keep checking every hourish or so

[worldly dune]

@ocean fox can i do it with 187 level? or is it that bad

[glacial venture]

if you got tent 200+ you go for an aura build

whichmeans gloves as weapon

at 200 you get 3s instead of 2s

[ocean fox]

You cannot do it, level 200 is absolutely required, I made that mistake

[glacial venture]

which is a massive difference

[worldly dune]

rip i'll have to wait tomorrow for the books

[opaque sun]

well people did cc when talent levels caps were at 160

[ocean fox]

Yeah, the level 200 gets you 3s which is super important since it reduces cooldown of cranium(and also makes raise the dead constant)
When i didnt have it I got the cranium cooknig procs every 2-3 hours
Exact same build with 200 I get it every 40 minutes and thats not even maxed

[opaque sun]

Kids these days are spoiled with 200 tent

[worldly dune]

does cranium cooking works on cauldrons too?

[ocean fox]

Yes

[glacial venture]

in the meantime you can try to get a high tp sample

[ocean fox]

That's how you unlock the last bubbles, should only take a couple days, you can even go the extra mile and max all your cauldrons

[worldly dune]

sorry but what is tp

[ocean fox]

I think it took me 4 days to unlock the last three bubbles when I started cc farming

[glacial venture]

toilet paper

[ocean fox]

Toilet paper, the log

[worldly dune]

ow

[glacial venture]

needed for the roadkill bubble

[ocean fox]

Keep in mind it's diminishing returns though

[opaque sun]

raising the cooking roadkill bubble raises so many things related to cranium, a 10% increase is still substantial to cranium’s effectiveness

[worldly dune]

should i max mana post office box on bubo?

[ancient quail]

+10% ALL SKILL EXP
bonus from skill mastery, once I unlock skill mastery, does this apply only to w1-w3 skills or to all skills?

[ocean fox]

Max the alchemy one, then the mana

Or you can do 200 200 depending on how much u have

[opaque sun]

It applies to all stuff where “all skill exp” applies

[ancient quail]

aka, w1-w3 trol

[opaque sun]

and cooking like if you care

[ancient quail]

ah it also applies to cooking

good to know, thanks

1% printer output, is that extra output or just better sample?

[glacial venture]

speaking of samples...put royal sampler on everyone

the lost exp is marginal

[native dock]

what site should I use for builds?

[gray schooner]

whats the best map for cranium cooking?

[mystic mountain]

thanks for the advice ^^

[mystic mountain]

i like doing oranges, but idk if any other map is more efficient

[near mist]

When is the best time to use gaming fertilizer, use early or wait for later?

[ocean fox]

Personally I would do earlier(same with wind) because with omni and other stuff you will eventually get even mroe extra hours of gaming and sailing per day so the items are less significant

[zealous niche]

Last map in w5 when poison kills the worms is best, oranges is best for when you need to rely on aura to kill

[gray schooner]

ill go with oranges for now then. thanks!

[uncut condor]

Hey yall. Just candied by way to w5. I'm behind on a few things but haven't outright neglected anything. I have doot. Do I cram everyone in divnity?

I see the pins - wasn't sure if doot changed much

[sand summit]

You want all characters div skill to be somewhat up for the minor passives and I believe also because of mastery

But if you have doot you can also put everyone into lab

Afaik

Since one divinity let's them do both lab and div at the same time

Unless doot doesn't work until you discover the divinities ofc

[sweet mountain]

Yeay... nothing hurts more than being the first loser, being so close and failing >.<

[sand summit]

Hey im still missing rift slug so it ain't too bad

[uncut condor]

Right slug seems op

*rift

[sweet mountain]

Not whne it's your secod it isnt 😦

[uncut condor]

Fair

[sweet mountain]

Well. Will keep the copy, who knows, I may run into someone who has 99999 doots and 0 slugs to trade when it is implemented. ahhahaha

[feral whale]

from 5 my pets my highest pet is bean)) i would be very happy even for this slug

[sand summit]

I want slug for the level cap

[sweet mountain]

If the box wasnt limited, I would keep all my pets and just give them away when trade is implemented

[sand summit]

I also want ancient fury/eldritch fury

Alas, the grind is on

[sullen scaffold]

Makes bubo happy

[sweet mountain]

Funny thing, I didn't get frog before increasing the odds too much

[sullen scaffold]

Thankfully i got the sheepie today, absolute unit i gotta say

[sand summit]

Slug for frog, best trade deal

[sweet mountain]

Temm me about it. I open like 300 chests a day, and it takes over a week to get a single eldritch.

[sand summit]

I don't even open that many chests lul

How do you get that many without checking every 2 hours

I mean I guess if I'm lucky with the sailing afk procs

[feral whale]

i think ram is like not so needed? it just more comfortable

[sand summit]

Alas I've been getting cooking afk proc more often than not

[sweet mountain]

Every 5 hours I get several runs that give me roughly 100 chests. Once you have every bubble, all your chars count their time towards sailing

[sand summit]

Wait what

Oh

I think I might know what you mean

[sweet mountain]

And I work from home, so yeah. I'm always on the computer.

[sand summit]

But I thought that was a chance to progress sailing

Not general progress

[sweet mountain]

Yeah. Sheepie is insane for sailing.

[sand summit]

I have wheelie

Sheepie

Auto correct

I also have some others that shall not be named

But I still thought that bubble is just a chance

For me it's like 9% still, maybe higher with other buffs

[sweet mountain]

Sheepie + Golden food

[sand summit]

So I just need more golden hampters then

Feck

Well I'm on vacation rn but I can do some W5 crystals once I get back

Looking forward to 2 weeks of afk time on each char

[sweet mountain]

Also, it's not guaranteed. But I usually get 1 or 2 other pulls from this and its enough to get 2 more runs. which take me to 100 chests per time I check sailing

[sand summit]

I can't wait to get 2 weeks worth of refinery when it's already maxed out

[sweet mountain]

Just make sure you check sailing everytime you log to a char. That way you don't have overflow of sailing time.

[sand summit]

Tbh im more annoyed by Chem plant chance

Still don't have it

[sweet mountain]

Wait until you try to level them... have this on for 8 days already

no level 6 :/

[sand summit]

I'd be fine with that

Can just slowly progress it

But doing 10 pull attempts each day with just 0.4% chance is oof

[sweet mountain]

Yeah, get what you mean. I'm getting slow progress and you're stuck in place.. thru

[sand summit]

I just don't get enough bits to upgrade anything anymore

I know what I can do to improve on that

But it's just ughgg

[rotund smelt]

What's the best way to do the lava skull rift thing?

[barren anvil]

Does the 5th evolution for gaming plants count towards log book?

[rotund smelt]

Yes

[sweet mountain]

Is this worth it? Roll is pretty shitty, but it's a double roll.

[sand summit]

I remember someone saying to use ES and hope for the best
I'm guessing higher damage to kill things fast enough is also part of the equation

[crisp silo]

arti chance is kinda not valued as a roll

[sweet mountain]

Even though this is exactly what Im doing now? My speed doesn't matter for 10 of the islands, since it's already at the minimum.

I'm looking for eldritch artifacts now. Currently trying to get fury. Then I will start from island 1 onwards, in order.

[crisp silo]

do you have 10M speed?

oh first 10

[sweet mountain]

7M on my fastest. 4-5 on average

[crisp silo]

ok so

thats good

though im not too sure that artichance is multi or additive

[sweet mountain]

If I can get those 0.02 to become 0.03, that's already a 50% increase. ahhahaha

[crisp silo]

you could test

but u might want those speed/loot captains back in a bit

cause the last few islands are 15M, 40M and 2000M

[sweet mountain]

Yeah. Just canned one that was double discovery, useless now. Too bad was my only T6 captain :/

[sand summit]

Arti chance is additive to other chance modifiers

So if you have 3.54 getting a captain with +0.20 isn't making that much of a difference but it's a difference

No idea how high the numbers can go though

It might be worth getting the captain to lvl 10

I would assume

As I am also stuck in the ancient/eldritch grind

[sweet mountain]

Yeah. Im trying to milk every bonus possible. Leveling shinnies, changing captains, etc...

[sand summit]

Ain't many of them to begin with tho xd

[crisp silo]

best method in my opinion, get sailing to proc with omni

then pray

also take off unending loot

[glad crow]

how bad is this?

[sand summit]

Damn how do you even get those numbers smh

[crisp silo]

it will get better

[sand summit]

Still below 100k on my craniums

Guess im just not good enough

(prob just need more bubble levels lul)

[crisp silo]

the bubble goes hard

[sand summit]

I can't bloody afford it that much

Gotta do more discounts I guess

And more atoms

[crisp silo]

gotta get them prints up

[sand summit]

I'm already getting close to 100m potty rolls

But it costs 300m per Upgrade so rip me I guess

Item cap

[glad crow]

i think they mean hourly clicks

[crisp silo]

really wanna get them prints up

so maybe work on skilling bubbles

then come back to do cc

[sand summit]

Guess I'll try to reach 10 bil efficiency when I get back home

Honestly I have so many things I can improve on so I really shouldn't complain

[bold quiver]

can use discount tag to help upgrade

[sand summit]

Ye

[sweet mountain]

How many boxes you guys usually get per day? Still working on my post office. Getting around 250, don't know if that good or bad though.

[sand summit]

Uhh

I usually do then all at once

[bold quiver]

i get 30 arena tickets

[opaque sun]

few hundred pens over night that i dont care to count anymore

[sand summit]

Is there a way to do post office orders faster cuz using 500 pens is already rough

Let alone 1000

[crisp silo]

there is a method

but it is illegal

[sweet mountain]

Oh.. then I need to work on this. Get around 100 pens per day.

[crisp silo]

i do not condone illegal acts

[opaque sun]

only way is to click po 1, move cursor, click pen, move cursor, click po1

[crisp silo]

pls no ban

[sweet mountain]

Illegal? huh?

[sand summit]

Not looking to do stuff automatically, that's what the atom upgrade is for

[crisp silo]

theres a rule against macro on the disc

[sweet mountain]

Oh. Didn't know,

[sand summit]

I just want to not have to move my mouse back and forth xd

[opaque sun]

Its fine to make your little brother do it while you sleep tho

[crisp silo]

smth like scripts

or macros

[sweet mountain]

I mean, I'm still in the range of doing manually. But not gonna lie, was thinking of using autocklicker when I got to 300 pens per day. Good to know.

[sand summit]

I am the youngest child
Why do you think I do the boring stuff

[crisp silo]

shhhhhhh we dont talk about it

[hollow wasp]

can i get any high wave with this towers on the frigid soul TD?

[sand summit]

Gonna be tough

[crisp silo]

wait maybe 50 is possible

[hollow wasp]

i am on wave11 or smth...

[sweet mountain]

What is high to you?

I think you may get to 60 or such

at most. and thats with the ranger

[sand summit]

There is an idleon spreadsheet for TD strategies

[opaque sun]

party starter too low to even do a boulder strat

[crisp silo]

ok 20 is possible

with hunter

[hollow wasp]

34 souls is hella low, i need the souls for everything rn

[wet hatch]

man ive been out here for a week on slugma trying to get this stupid glove recipe....

[crisp silo]

it is a right of passage to all idleon playr

the great w3 soul break

[hollow wasp]

.<

[crisp silo]

like how we have the w5 div break

[dreamy spruce]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 pins has set up for frosty place @hollow wasp

[crisp silo]

or the w4 lab break

[sand summit]

I'm looking forward to coming back after 2 weeks of vacation to find my 3 dudes farming suggmas getting nothing

[crisp silo]

seems like a dr issue

[sand summit]

Yea i only have 7x

[crisp silo]

maybe a little skill issue

[sand summit]

Bet

At least I'll get a bunch of lucky lads right?

Right?

Why did I put the lads into the filter ughh

[crisp silo]

seems like bigger skill issue

[wet hatch]

i have a dr of 8.69 and my dk is easilly getting 300-400 on his orb...this is awful lol

[crisp silo]

DK farming for drops??

this is truly awful

[wet hatch]

yeah the fist recipe

[crisp silo]

Es would be faster i think

where are the glove havers

[sand summit]

Is ES actually better for the rare stuff

I feel like this question pops up a lot but the answer always changes

[crisp silo]

it is

but map kinda sucks

[wet hatch]

its on the base table, not in one of the higher loot tables

[dreamy spruce]

ES for rare items outside of the bags, DK for the stuff inside the rare bags

[sand summit]

Ooo that's good info right there

[opaque sun]

its more of who drops it, than the rarity of itme

[sand summit]

Not that I know why that works that way

[dreamy spruce]

I don't know either, just parroting

[sand summit]

Fair enough

[opaque sun]

crystals carry more rare tables

but ES portal bonus applies on everything that the normal mob drops including the rare tables, but normal mob doesnt have much rare tables

[sand summit]

I see I see

[crisp silo]

ES dr only affects the mob on that map, like suggmas. Dk dr affects all beings in the map

[opaque sun]

DK bonus is weaker than ES, but applies to everything including crystal’s drops

[dreamy spruce]

Ah alright, thanks

[opaque sun]

Only exception is wurm map is so good for DK’s orb count, the orb bonus surpasses ES’s bonus

[sand summit]

I haven't reached Wurms yet

[wet hatch]

ah well my dk is so far ahead of my es i just figured it would be better

[sand summit]

2 chars on crawlers

6 on moles

[crisp silo]

dk outscales es on wurms cause of the hp of the wurms

[sand summit]

Ive had most of my chars grinding in w4 still

Cuz apparently I need that stupid gold twine

Thank God I started my grind after the cost nerf

[crisp silo]

i need 22 more twine

[sand summit]

Too bad that nullo salt is a pain

[opaque sun]

W6+, DK gets better and better as orb duration increases with talent levels. While ES struggles with mobs with high base HP

[crisp silo]

hmm but by w6+ es get more dmg

[sand summit]

Imagine if we got new enemy types where it's just boss enemies for each portal

[opaque sun]

But i assume the scaling of mob Hp is greater than the damage increase

[crisp silo]

oh wait but it is a power eqn

so higher base hp would outscale

[near mist]

When is a good time to use gaming fertilizer? On low or high levels?

[crisp silo]

up to you, small gains now vs bigger gains later

[opaque sun]

ES will get better and better at older worlds tho

Like w1 mobs will be like 1000m every 10min or so maybe

[crisp silo]

Es most likely our new gmush god

[sand summit]

Green stack those bolt cutters

Fr tho greenstacking rare items will be a thing at some point right

with ES and W6 passives

[opaque sun]

fertilizer best use is when aiming for the 777 achievement i think

[glad crow]

isnt he already that? with the mulitkill per tier skill, and for us dootless, 2 gods?

[opaque sun]

Outside of 777 achievo, using it whenever is fine honestly

[sand summit]

Can you force the 777 achievement?

[opaque sun]

active is not worth for deathnote

[sand summit]

I didn't try yet

[crisp silo]

he is

[opaque sun]

Well you normally aim for the 777

[crisp silo]

but i like activing on it for now

[opaque sun]

You would adjust the bits via the talent level of DK

[crisp silo]

so when better active dr farmer comes out, i would swap

[glad crow]

that makes sense

also, the untradeable duplicate pets that you get, arent they useless?

thats so stupid

[crisp silo]

i love my 3 beans

although they are stupid

[bold quiver]

to prevent people from creatin 500 acc and getting all pets traded to them + selling to other ppl

[glad crow]

but why not make it so you atleast get a small amount out of recycling them

[dreamy spruce]

Should be idleon efficiency

[zinc torrent]

still cant figure it where its located in indleon efficiency this picture

[dreamy spruce]

Construction I think

[zinc torrent]

ah yeah ty

[bold quiver]

indeed

[glad crow]

how high td rounds should i be able to get with these?

[bold quiver]

goblin u can get the last prayer

[glad crow]

i can 😄

last i checked the guide sheet, it said i needed much more damage from atom

[bold quiver]

hm no idea then prob 110 on most TD

[bold quiver]

guide is only what the person had when he did that, not a requirement ;O

[glad crow]

oh okay ty

[bold quiver]

u can to goblin TD with a lvl 33 poison (thats what i had

my frozone was lvl 2, thunder guy lvl 2, kraken lvl 5

and still beat it haha

only party and poisonic leveled

[glad crow]

what about your bonus dmg from atom?

[bold quiver]

0 ofc, my turrets werent even leveled

[glad crow]

and you used the same layout as the guide?

[bold quiver]

yes

[glad crow]

wich one of these is best?

[bold quiver]

no idea

[glad crow]

will just try both, if one of them fails

[bold quiver]

yea. i''d go for 130 first

probably another 2 times procing there or 3 and i can get this to atom range!

[wary girder]

does nobisect help towards deathnote?

[bold quiver]

o.o

[wary girder]

literally says it on it my bad lol

[bold quiver]

have u ever read it

kkkkkkkkkkkkk

[wary girder]

hahaha

i thought it was only for portals mbmb

[bold quiver]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/991866594470936578/1029825781779677194/tumblr_inline_nj7nvdEudn1sqodxg.gif

[gentle furnace]

almost done

[bold quiver]

holyy!! 80%

this is getting close to atom range also

[gentle furnace]

mine is 109 for this

still pretty far from 100m

[runic girder]

Worst is getting to that point is more like 11% done

[bold quiver]

jez

[wary girder]

has some1 got a pic of their cards for stacking deathnotes?

[gentle furnace]

Just afk gains, dmg%, all stat%

And mkpt

[wary girder]

cheers

[pine pond]

really does go brrr

[bold quiver]

huge

it will be good for when i start farming gmush

[pine pond]

gimme a few days

😛

then im doing gmush also

[bold quiver]

that one is horrible for gmush

💀

[pine pond]

kills are kills

[bold quiver]

neglegible

[pine pond]

mmm i love logging in from 30 minutes of afk on my BB

to level up a meal 3 times

so great

[bold quiver]

O.O thats a lot

im still finisshing my super chow before leveling my dishes more

[pine pond]

we getting spicy

[dreamy spruce]

Is purple higher than red? Since it looks like it would be lower

[gentle furnace]

Yes purple is higher

[bold quiver]

downgrade kkkkkkkk

[dreamy spruce]

I guess it'll look better when he gets more stars

[pine pond]

yeah

i ran outta ladles

but i just went from e 28 - e32 cooking speed

so its gonna go brr

[dreamy spruce]

Damn nice

[bold quiver]

ready for speedrun

hopefuly i can get to 62 63

[dreamy spruce]

I'm gonna be doing my first one soon

[lyric sequoia]

Not 1T damage, not ready

[pine pond]

is that 102b or 1 trill

[bold quiver]

but prob not, the kill requirements for w4 deep and w5 is so bad

[pine pond]

cause im tired

[bold quiver]

102

[dreamy spruce]

Damn how many portals is w4 boss?

[pine pond]

okay

whats your MK at gmush looking like

[lyric sequoia]

All bosses give 3 if you do nightmare first in a speedrun

[bold quiver]

lol almost did a mistake wtf

[pine pond]

lmfao

woops

almost

few more hours

🤤

[bold quiver]

nice almost 10k

are u lvl 5k family ?

[pine pond]

not yet

[bold quiver]

lame

[pine pond]

trying to get there

[bold quiver]

what is your strategy

[pine pond]

leveling all the easily people first

[bold quiver]

to what lvl

[pine pond]

500

[bold quiver]

lol

[pine pond]

maybe higher

[crisp silo]

Hardest part of 5k fam lvl is lvling BM

[bold quiver]

doesnt seem like a good one, but good luck

[crisp silo]

Good luck

[pine pond]

im at 4727 atm

[pine pond]

BM is worse then BB?

i feel as if BB is worse

[bold quiver]

BB is worse than BM for leveling, but only slighty so it doesnt rly matter

[pine pond]

my BM has like 20 levels over my BB

ah

yeah

hai topbird

long time my good sir

[opaque sun]

if you give bb the red scarf and respawn keychain doubled, its basically on uwu all the time

[pine pond]

i dont hang around here much anymore lool

yeah

ive noticed that

[bold quiver]

problem is clear speed

[pine pond]

nah

my BB is fine at wurms

[bold quiver]

it is

[pine pond]

with double respawn

keychains

hes always active

just the exp so slow

[bold quiver]

thats why problem is kill speed and why BM is faster

[opaque sun]

the combust update slightly helped with the clear speed. Like in par with bm

[pine pond]

^

twas nice

[opaque sun]

bm and bb in a comparable zone compared to other guys

[bold quiver]

problem is also that combust doesnt hit whole screenon wurms all the time, weird map layout

[opaque sun]

bm makes around 1.1 exp while bb makes 1.0 exp, in the world where bubo and dk makes like 100 exp

[bold quiver]

yeah

only dif betweenBM and BB is actualy the clear speed

so bm ends up killing more crystals + normal mobs but only a few more

ES is a pain to lvl also, jez christ

[true obsidian]

how much is 5Q? i know 1000B = 1T, so 1000T = 1Q?

[olive kestrel]

yes

[bold quiver]

1 extra map. lame

maybe i could squeeze 63 maps if i do a perfect run, but 64 is impossible

[opaque sun]

mainly depends on the duration (talent level) of the speed run

[dreamy spruce]

how far into w4 is 61 maps?

[potent gust]

Y a y ...

[bold quiver]

chocies

but it depends, u can get further if u want

[potent gust]

At least i've unlocked two artifacts + 2 divinities first try 😭

[bold quiver]

mainly depend on if im strong as a god or not lol

[opaque sun]

Even with super damage, damage tier kind of caps out eventually, and portal requirements just too high

[violet chasm]

What's the best gear setup involving w5 boss set right now? Is it full w5 boss set?

[true obsidian]

need more multikill

[true obsidian]

depend

[opaque sun]

mix and match or magma and boss

[bold quiver]

can use full on everyone but bubo for active + afk

if u want

[opaque sun]

boss gear is a side grade of magma

[bold quiver]

dmg reduction is not that bad

only 1.2% something around that

[violet chasm]

The mix is top + shoe for w5 boss?

[true obsidian]

for best "stats" use w5 boss helmet and boots, shirt and pant still magma, for "kill/hour and drop rate" just full set

[opaque sun]

as people said, depends on the task

[bold quiver]

this is for afk gameplay

this is for active if not looking for drop rate

[violet chasm]

I see if I am on active for dr I should for full set nonetheless and afk I should go for stats

[violet chasm]

Oh

[opaque sun]

for an afk key farming, full boss for example

[violet chasm]

Okay thanks a lot!

[opaque sun]

If the misc stat applies for the task, boss. Else magma

[violet chasm]

Eh seems opposite of what you said

Oh sorry not you

[bold quiver]

its just whatever, the dmg reduction u get from usil fulll kattle is so small it doesnt rly matter if u dont want to min max

[true obsidian]

oh shiet, switch this back....my golden fish brain :<

[violet chasm]

Got it thanks a lot!

[opaque sun]

gear is mainly just for the misc stat

[bold quiver]

ill show u the picture of dmg dif sec

@violet chasm this is the set for max dmg active. Yes with kattle armor, only god knows why

if u are going to afk gameplay u slap the lags for extra mob respawn

[dreamy spruce]

100b dmg pants? not bad

[bold quiver]

and if u are going for drop rate farming on DK/ES/SB u go this

[opaque sun]

not bad, but also small enough that you would just use boss pants on always

[bold quiver]

its funny how kattle armor is so strong if u use the right combination lol

[true obsidian]

dang...how i can have those dmg? i have more stats than you but my dmg only 200.000M for with my strongest, other not even reach 150.000M

[tight merlin]

He finished 1b death note maybe

[true obsidian]

1B deathnote really give that much dmg?

[tight merlin]

Yes its multi

[true obsidian]

he like x10~20 my dmg

[tight merlin]

1b Deathnot hugh endgame buff

[violet chasm]

Thanks!

[dreamy spruce]

also alch probably

[bold quiver]

praying to jesus

[bold quiver]

No, its bad

[fast grail]

You have 24k+ wisdom and dont have things near that damage?

[dreamy spruce]

you have the alch dmg bubbles high?

[bold quiver]

its good up to a point, after a while u are just searching for scraps

[bold quiver]

yes if your alchemy bubble is bad

[bold quiver]

dear lord 4190 first bubble

[fast grail]

holy shit my guy, do you only atom the first wis bubble and nothing else?

[dreamy spruce]

lmao poor other classes

[bold quiver]

@true obsidian doesnt matter if your base stats bubble is good if your other bubbles suck '.'

[true obsidian]

my atom can't afford other bubbles too much, i can lv up them 10~20 per day and other just go into 1st bubble

[bold quiver]

exactly

[true obsidian]

can you help me which bubble i need to improve now? for dmg

[bold quiver]

you cant atom the best bubbles for dmg, nothing u can do

game is not easy and u gotta think about how stuff are connected to progress very fast and efficiently

[true obsidian]

the last one?

[sick sentinel]

Sample bubbles will help the most

Chopping related ones

[bold quiver]

technicaly your "minimum" end game atom daily production should be 321k atoms

aim for that

[elder shuttle]

how does big p bubble work with doot?

[random saddle]

So which bubbles good for samp

[true obsidian]

1/20

[bold quiver]

every bubble that has skilling stats on it? ;............

[true obsidian]

but after that which bubbles i should upgrade for dmg?

[bold quiver]

every bubble that has dmg stuff on it.....................

not rocket science lol

unfortunately it is that simple lol

[pulsar cliff]

Honestly, spend some time focusing on getting your prints up. As you do and you learn better what to focus for getting your prints up, I think you'll get a better understanding on the mechanics and the answer will be more straight forward.

[gentle furnace]

me smol

[bold quiver]

If u want samples u lvl sample bubbles.
If u want dmg u lvl dmg bubbles.
And flat stats is an all around that helps everything

[true obsidian]

ok...

[bold quiver]

we are twins

[pulsar cliff]

Where do you see the atoms / day? Efficiency?

[gentle furnace]

toolbox

[dreamy spruce]

ie doesnt have it? :{

[narrow torrent]

why do people use the stingers gloves?

[true obsidian]

hmm, can you post your IE bubbles? at least i know how much i need to aim for

[bold quiver]

cast aura better

[dreamy spruce]

on bubo? because they are melee

[bold quiver]

no

https://tenor.com/view/meikyuu-black-company-rimu-dragon-girl-horns-gif-22720755

but the least u can tell u is to aaim for 85% capacity on everything

[gentle furnace]

my last resample was 40 days ago

[bold quiver]

then aim for 90% and after that probably idk?

my bubbles are leveled like that haha

jaeger bubbles are insane

[dreamy spruce]

is 150 just cap for call me pope?

[gentle furnace]

i stopped doing hourly clicks for some time already

[bold quiver]

worship hatter

he is just a non believer

[dreamy spruce]

ah okay

[bold quiver]

tomorrow im getting mine to 357

wanna get it to 85% capacity at least, or 90

[dreamy spruce]

damn nice

[gentle furnace]

630 is 90%

[bold quiver]

ok so 85% lol

[dreamy spruce]

best way to check max capacity is with wiki?

or is it build into IT?

[bold quiver]

there is a link here with that i think

[dreamy spruce]

ah alright, will check it out later then, thx

[true obsidian]

toolbox?

[dreamy spruce]

!it

[obtuse orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo#2331

[bold quiver]

true, toolbox does that

[little harbor]

just unlocked no more praying. is it worth it?

[bold quiver]

garbage

[little harbor]

dang, probably should have asked before unlocking it then!

[bold quiver]

=[

would have to lvl tat up eventualy anyway

Did u guys know that if u use that talent on vman that gives flat stats u get an amazing dmg boost? 😮

[gentle furnace]

yes

[bold quiver]

i found that out yesterday lol, i didnt ahve that leveled for a while

but now that im not speedrunnig anymore i reset my setup

[granite grove]

yeah, 2 base stat and 2 max stat tab 1 talents add up super hard

[bold quiver]

i got almost 1B dmg just from that, insane

[granite grove]

tho no bone marrow and species talent? or basically finished cooking and critter/souls

[bold quiver]

no idea how much this is but it was 4700000 something

[bold quiver]

fighting setup

[granite grove]

oh right you arent done putting talent points in, saw 181 on the sjde

or that too

[bold quiver]

i dont have enough points to level everything, very sad

kkkkkkkkkkkk so gotta do like the good old low lvl days

[granite grove]

just if vman family talents are affected by talent lv+ buffs

[haughty path]

So, can someone help me out here. Until about a couple hours ago, I stopped having ships stay in port. Now they grab 2 chests and do nothing. Have I done something to stop that?

[lyric sequoia]

Only need to max the str/luk/agi/wiz skills once though, go max out the skils on the other classes then reset vman

[granite grove]

did you used arrowhead artifact and set to iron chest and above?

[dreamy spruce]

maybe you got rid of sb talent that upgrades treausers?

[bold quiver]

i did that, but u lose the huge 445 base stats from the talent itself

[tawdry epoch]

What did you do to go from 4.7 trillion to 5.4 t

[bold quiver]

vman talent

[lyric sequoia]

Only on vman, it's max levels so the others will keep their snapshotted values as long as you don't reset them

[haughty path]

You're a hero. I used that SB for W2 skull earlier. Fixed

[signal osprey]

No the talent gives base stats and talent levels

You lose the base stats

[lyric sequoia]

Oh wait you mean the other bonus on it. Makes more sense

[tawdry epoch]

Nice

[lyric sequoia]

Could ditch luck and put that in cooking

[bold quiver]

its huge bro kkkkkkkkkk

found this out yesterday. Until then i was only snapshotiung base stats

[lyric sequoia]

400 luck isn't huge for non-vman, eh

[bold quiver]

=´[

[pulsar cliff]

Base means affected by all other mods though no?

[signal osprey]

Yeah

If I turn the talent off to just do the snapshot my bubo will lose like 1k wis or something

[lyric sequoia]

I guess either way though, you only need cooking when ladling and critters when collecting/worshipping, so not a big deal to lose them most of the time

Have your other setup swap the global damage and MK for critters and cooking, life is good

[signal osprey]

27k keys later and I'm finally free

[dreamy spruce]

Grats

[little harbor]

how can i get this higher? is there a list of all crystal spawn chances?

[crisp silo]

Grats mista contract

[crisp silo]

Hover over the number with cursor

Or that might be an it feature

[signal osprey]

Nah it works on IE too

[pulsar cliff]

Grats Contract!

[little harbor]

oh, nice. thanks. not sure what else i am missing here. probably just need to push the stamp. cant raise taletns higher right now.

[crisp silo]

Your Stamp kinda week

[crisp silo]

Next week has a card doubler

[little harbor]

what does that mean?

[signal osprey]

It means your double the crystal spawn chance cards

Thats the biggest thing you're missing

[little harbor]

is it an item in the gem shop?

[crisp silo]

Lab chip

Only 10m krakens

And some other stuff

[little harbor]

oh, where i can i see the cost? i should start printing

[crisp silo]

Wiki has a cost

If not, can refer to the calender

[signal osprey]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[little harbor]

oh, the chip that doubles cards in a slot. got it.

[crisp silo]

small fee of 10M krakens

[signal osprey]

Thats all you're missing really. Other than that its just level your shrine and your stamp more

This is a maxed setup for a non vman aside from shrines which dont have a max its just a matter of waiting for levels

[little harbor]

What map is best to farm crystals? need for vman skill xp reduction

[gentle furnace]

Any map that has high mob density

[graceful rivet]

how do i keep pirate flag from going down in score

for rift

[signal osprey]

You don't stop it from going down thats literally what the flag does. You just have to kill things faster than it goes down

Vman enhancement is the biggest bonus you can get to help

Other than that you should max the level of the coin talent on your SB

And make sure you have enough damage to one shot all mobs including plunderous mobs

[graceful rivet]

does drop rate increase coin amount?

[signal osprey]

No every mob drops a coin guaranteed as long as you have the coin buff up

Normal mobs drop 1-2 coins with plunderous mobs dropping like 5 coins

Its a little bit rng because every mob cost 1 coin to respawn so if they only drop 1 coin then it makes it hard to build up your count

But given enough time it will go up assuming you one shot everything

[little harbor]

Is there a way to increase forge speed? i maxed all its levels, and am using the best oil. going to take a long time for 50k starfire bars for the vman weap

[torpid sparrow]

can some people pls help me with dungeon w1 pls

[signal osprey]

Forge progress is almost exclusively tied to the archer talents

[torpid sparrow]

struggle to get to last boss

[fathom lagoon]

Zombie frog? Can’t do that yet either only like lvl 40 dungeon rank

[signal osprey]

And it burns through the ore every time you claim combat afk gains on an archer so candying some gmush or something would be the fastest way to get a lot of bars on demand

[little harbor]

what!? i never knew that impacted it at all. assumed it was just anvil

[torpid sparrow]

im lvl 35 😦

[signal osprey]

No the forge basically doesnt function without that talent

99.9% of your bars are from archers killing things

[torpid sparrow]

i want tenacity rings

[little harbor]

wow, good to know. so is, generally speaking, having SB on gmush the best thing to have active?

[crisp silo]

oh cool 3 gold twine in 3 hours, not bad

[signal osprey]

Assuming your SB is kinda decent it doesnt really matter what map as the auto arm only fills bars once per afk claim session so realistically most of your kills get wasted

But if your SB can only pull a few hundred thousand kills on some maps then yeah picking an easier map like gmush would work better

[crisp silo]

If i need bars, i just have 2 sb with the talent go gmush and login every 2 mins

[little harbor]

i keep the game running all the time, just dont know what i should have on active usually.

[signal osprey]

Well the talent doesnt count multikill while active so its pretty horrible for that

[crisp silo]

could bubo for alch, or es for rares

[signal osprey]

So if bars are your goal definitely want to be afk

[little harbor]

ok, thanks

[signal osprey]

But yeah unfortunately it just requires you to be pretty proactive about it since you get another set of bars forged when you hit claim on afk gains

So you need to claim as many as possible to get the most bars

That means either checking your archer as frequently as you can up to 2 minutes afk as a minimum or just spam hundreds or candies

[little harbor]

ive been stuck at 37 portal speed run for a while. any suggestions? i am following the guide (order of zones to clear). What gear upgrades should i focus on?

getting demential skulls on all W1-W3 areas before i try again.

[gentle furnace]

lowest skill level?

[little harbor]

cooking at 8 i guess. not sure if that counts.

[gray thicket]

Your cooking being half of mine makes me feel a little better

[little harbor]

glad to help!

[gray thicket]

Even if all the other skills are twice mine

[silver moon]

Do Vman all character buffs stack if you run 2 vmen?

[gentle furnace]

only w1 -w3 skills matter

[little harbor]

So trapping at 71 then.

[gentle furnace]

work on that, then more alchemy and stamps and better gears

[little harbor]

what should i prioritize in Alch? im pretty random there.

[gentle furnace]

last mage bubble

and work on your statue levels

[little harbor]

is "last mage" a specific name of a bubble, or just the final purple one?

[keen berry]

Does rare drop perks affect on boss drops, like wings for example.

[little harbor]

yes

[sick sentinel]

Jaegar means the last bubble in the purple cauldron

[rustic garnet]

which bubbles should I have my NBLB target?

[signal osprey]

Anything that you cant level on your own pretty much

The big ones are bubble that cost salts or spices

Trapping and souls can be kind of annoying too although they arent as bad as they used to be after we got the vman talent

[twin aurora]

probably a stupid question , what's the purpose of the next pet chance on the rat , chippy or panda ?

[fading cape]

just the way it's coded to always give each object those parameters

[bold quiver]

new pets soon

[fading cape]

same with gaming when you get the final evo. Same with bubbles, etc. Very few things aren't future compatible

[prisma furnace]

What does worship power do?

Does it affect your towers or anything?

[crisp silo]

charge speed

[sick sentinel]

probably for worship efficiency when claiming souls too

#2

[prisma furnace]

Thanks 🙂

[signal osprey]

Worship power is just efficiency

[sick sentinel]

im hesitant to agree that power has affect on charge speed

[crisp silo]

whhaaat

bruh

wait no

[sick sentinel]

could check with obols pretty easily

[signal osprey]

Speed is its own thing

[crisp silo]

we can look at slush skull

[sick sentinel]

higher tier skulls have faster charge speed

[crisp silo]

oh shit

oops

@prisma furnace its not charge speed, its eff

[blazing torrent]

Yes. Now I see. I was for long time on skills, and recently go back to fight. Thx

[flint viper]

At the start of sailing should i split my 3 boats between all 3 islands i have or should i focus all on one island at a time for the artifacts?

[umbral tapir]

Hey all, need a little direction on how traps work, and need to know if the new rift ability for traps is screwing me over.

I have a BM, and I set and collect all traps with him using the guide.

However, I'm seeing 0 exp gains on other characters, and the rift ability is triggering my traps, but awarding 0 critters.(admittedly, my BM is not usually my first character I login in with each day)

[sick sentinel]

doesnt the rift trap deposit directly to storage

i dont use it so i dont know

[signal osprey]

Yeah auto trap goes straight to storage

[umbral tapir]

I have a ton of penguins right now to finish salt lick. When the rift thing triggers, the number of pengys available to spend dies not increase.

[sick sentinel]

what traps are you using too? some are booty for exp

[umbral tapir]

Flesh, I believe

[sick sentinel]

are you using naturaly traps on pengys?

[umbral tapir]

Everything is placed using the drone with my BM using highest traps availble

[sick sentinel]

and ur checking exp gain after logging into the other characters?

[umbral tapir]

Everything is also collected on my BM using eagle eye

I am.

So really, my takeaway here is I've done something wrong? Since you seem surprised

[sick sentinel]

im just going through the steps

tryna help figure out, but idk seems like it should be working

[grand karma]

does anyone please know if logs for logs also affect samples?

[signal osprey]

I'm trying to figure out what auto trap even has to do with it when you said you're collecting on BM

[sick sentinel]

its big for samples

[main raven]

It does

[grand karma]

fuck me

thanks lads

[umbral tapir]

I've been feeling like the auto trap is not rewarding critters.

[umbral tapir]

Since my penguin count doesn't increment from before and after it triggers. It seems

[signal osprey]

You said you collected all traps on BM using eagle eye

Am I correct in assuming that you mean you are manually collecting them by clicking eagle eye and claiming the traps yourself?

[umbral tapir]

Yes, at times between auto trap triggers

[pulsar cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-stephen-a-smith-gif-13112895

[signal osprey]

Auto trap procs once per day on your daily reset

If your traps arent ready then it has nothing to claim

So if you claim manually it just does nothing

[umbral tapir]

My traps are always triggered once daily when I login in the morning

But my traps are ready again around dinner time, when I manually collect.

They're ready again in the morning and triggered by auto trap, but when that happens, my critter count seems stagnant

Wondering if triggering auto trap on a non BM character is the problem.

[signal osprey]

Your character has nothing to do with it

[umbral tapir]

Ok, so that answers one concern I had.

I might just need to be more diligent, based on yours and circs investigation questions

Need to write down critter counts and trap exp

And present evidence instead of a "feeling"

[signal osprey]

As far as I'm aware theres no bugs regarding auto trap so if I had to guess I would say you're just overestimating how many critters you should be getting

Because yeah as you said your critters seeming stagnant and actually being stagnant are not the same thing

[grand karma]

okay so just to inform you guys, i half assed my logging sample because im on vacation, and with that talent alone i went from 44m to 103m log sample…

do not sleep on it like i did jesus

[signal osprey]

That talent single handedly carries logging samples

[umbral tapir]

Even better to make three maxed stacks of logs in your bank.

[pulsar cliff]

How come?

[grand karma]

yeah i’ll completely resample again once i come home because jesus fuck me thats a huge increase

[umbral tapir]

More logs, better samples

[umbral tapir]

Sorry, 3 is just arbitrary.

[pulsar cliff]

I guess 3 was the seemingly arbitr -- oh okay.

[umbral tapir]

Extra stacks is more logs is bigger samples.

[signal osprey]

Log stacks give catching efficiency not chopping efficiency

[umbral tapir]

Hahaha, whoops

[signal osprey]

Chopping efficiency comes from green leaf stacks

[umbral tapir]

Yeah, sorry.bhes right. I'm half reading

[sick sentinel]

@signal osprey 2 in 15 runs

[signal osprey]

I finally got my first one this morning

Only took a measly 384 runs

No big deal

[sick sentinel]

damn, now i cant hold it over you

gz tho!

finally 😅

[signal osprey]

It feels so good to go back to beans. I feel at home again

Now I can make more tangible progress towards my 1b copper print goal

[bold quiver]

is the maximum cost reduction 98%?

[signal osprey]

No its 95%

The number keeps going up but you dont actually get any more reductions past 95

[little pagoda]

How do I gain divinity xp? It literally says 1/hr on afk screen

[delicate thistle]

yea

theres a ES talent

but its really slow at first

[little pagoda]

I respecced ES and invested in it but then the xp went from 2 to 1 somehow

[signal osprey]

Theres a big bubble, a stamp, ES talent, mage tab 2 talent for specialized exp and a gem shop purchase

[little pagoda]

Is there anything else that affects it?

[signal osprey]

You also get more exp as you unlock different div stances

Stances are the biggest thing. It gives you a base amount of exp that is then increased by all of the other bonuses

[frail mauve]

Cooking also helps

[signal osprey]

Basically it sucks at first but gets better over time

[delicate thistle]

you probably only have ES talent rn

[little pagoda]

Is dininity spark worth the purchase? I have some gems

Not a lot, but some

[signal osprey]

Its a nice bonus if you have the gems but its not a must have by any means

[little pagoda]

So what I'm seeing is, just put everyone in divinity for a while?

[signal osprey]

Pretty much

[glad crow]

[grand karma]

what is worth to atom more? hocus pocus or the second bubble, they are about the same level rn and idk which caps out sooner

[woeful knot]

How do I get this faster?

[signal osprey]

Bubble 2 is 450/950 for 90%/95% effect. Bubble 3 is 900/1900

[signal osprey]

If thats the rift kills stage then you dont. Just gotta wait for it

[grand karma]

thanks mate

[woeful knot]

It’s skull pts or stm stupid

[signal osprey]

Yeah you just wait

Nothing you can do to make it go really fast

[pulsar cliff]

Where can I find the infographic for alchemy scaling / caps on bubbles? I seem to remember one floating around.

[signal osprey]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1087501872002256966

[grand karma]

i only know of this

[pulsar cliff]

Thanks very much both of ya

[little pagoda]

So I need 100 points for first god?]

[eternal echo]

Can someone help me with the slab items: goldfish and jellyfish? I tried to fish them, then i tried to get them on w2 dungeon, but the slab still doesnt update fot those items. I do i get them on my slab

[sick sentinel]

i think w3 dungeon, never done it myself tho

[signal osprey]

Yeah W3 dungeon has fishing in it too

[jaunty cloak]

question
if you upgrade ur dungeon stats on one character will the same stats stay with all of you characters

[coarse cradle]

How should you level the squrriel i gaming? 1:1 or?

[sonic monolith]

Can someone explain to me what this does? Coz I seem to be too stupid to understand it 😅

Ooooooh

Nvm I get it.

[twin token]

Is it better to candy vman or chow

[dry musk]

How to calculate refinery for infinity? Cant find it anymore

[twin token]

W3 and 4 chat

Pins

[dry musk]

Thx

[twin token]

Yw

[sick sage]

just hit that 17x droprate yo

feels good

[stiff prairie]

The bit that isn't explained:
the gods (1-10) goes to the numbers 0-9. So the 4th god (bunny) goes to X3, so polytheism needs to end in a 3 to link to bunny god (3, 13,23,93 etc)

And standing under the elephant god can change which god it links to, while keeping poly's effect at max level

[twin token]

?

[sleek fulcrum]

Personally, I think you can hit more smaller damage thresholds via chow so you see you see more consistent growth. Not sure how others approach that though

[twin token]

Huh

[sleek fulcrum]

Anyone know if it’s better to claim chem plants with katsune rock on or off?

[sleek fulcrum]

My vman is also high enough levels that candy eats up more for less

[true obsidian]

Yayyyyy, i got Doot ||but in green||

[dreamy spruce]

I think he menas unlocking vman

[twin token]

Oh no I mean for the 12m gmush kills

Ye for unlocking

[sleek fulcrum]

Ohh

I’d unlock vman

[twin token]

Hes just shy hiding in the corner

[twin token]

Thx

[mystic mountain]

before

after

ah fk my fishing samples

[twin token]

So the only requirements for vman are level level 150 12 gmush kills on mman and 1m kills on all w1-w3 mobs on any char?

[dreamy spruce]

yes

[twin token]

Alt sounds easy enough

[dreamy spruce]

bloodbones kinda rough